Re: [gentoo-user] util-macros download error
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Tuesday 12 September 2006 05:28, Dale wrote: I copied it there because I did a rm -rfv /mnt/gentoo/usr/portage/distfiles/util-* first. /mnt/gentoo/usr/portage/distfiles == /usr/portage/distfiles ? Yea, I'm doing a install on another drive. I mounted it at /mnt/gentoo. It makes copy and paste easier. :D I'm trying to get a clean start. This is a three year old install and I have learned a lot. Still have a lng way to go though. Care to help me a bit more? LOL I also always add the -v to rm. I like to see it do it, especially the second time around. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc upgrade from 3.x to 4.x, when should I run revdep-rebuild?
Ryan Tandy wrote: Dale wrote: Cheese, I'm learning something. I already knew that it would not delete files in /etc/ and now I know why. LOL I never put the two together before you said that. Well, the /etc thing is generally more due to CONFIG_PROTECT - it won't delete files from /etc regardless of whether or not you've modified them, because they're under CONFIG_PROTECTion. Yea, but now I know that. Sometimes it takes my light bulb a while to get brightened up good. :-( LOL Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentooism
Michael Sullivan wrote: On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 15:04 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: No offence or copyright infringement intended, but I found this funny: Let us pray... Our system, who art on raised tile, Hallowed be thy OS. Thy portage come, thy emerge be done, On servers, as it is on workstations. Give us this day, our daily sync, And forgive us our broken ebuilds, As we forgive those who break ebuilds against us. Lead us not into dependency frustration, But deliver us from rpm evil. For thine is the make.conf, the USE flags, And the profile forever... Gentoo. Full article here: http://www.gentoo-portage.com/ :) -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Well, you know, no matter where you go, there you are. -- Buckaroo Banzai Bravo! Shouldn't there be something about but deliver us from M$? Don't forget the AMEN too. LOL Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Question about arts.
Hi, As some may already know, I'm doing a new install on another hard drive. I have a question about arts. I have this for a sound card: 01:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a) Do I need to compile KDE with arts support with this card? I never have started alsasound before, if that has anything to do with it, and sound works fine. I'm about to start the big KDE compile and was wondering before I started. Thanks. Dale :-) :-) :-) Hmmm, while I am at it, what's the difference between xorg-x11 and xorg-server? I hope I didn't emerge the wrong one. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Real CPU speed
Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How can I determine my current CPU speed? I have a Celeron 700 that should be running at 1050 if I insulated one of its pins correctly. All of the information I can find on determining CPU speed is related to mobile speedstep processors and mine is a desktop CPU. Try 'cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq' -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about arts.
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 08:22, Dale wrote: Hmmm, while I am at it, what's the difference between xorg-x11 and xorg-server? I hope I didn't emerge the wrong one. xorg-server is a result of the new modular X. xorg-x11 depends on xorg-server, so you emerge xorg-x11, which then emerges the X-server proper alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about arts.
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 12 September 2006 08:22, Dale wrote: Hmmm, while I am at it, what's the difference between xorg-x11 and xorg-server? I hope I didn't emerge the wrong one. xorg-server is a result of the new modular X. xorg-x11 depends on xorg-server, so you emerge xorg-x11, which then emerges the X-server proper alan Uh oh. I hope I can go back and emerge xorg-x11 and it all works OK. Here we go. Thanks much. Dale :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox Keeps Hanging on some pages
New Make CFLAGS=-O2 -march=pentium-m -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer (Per the wiki) Flags are sane. :-) And related to these sites that firefox chokes on, are there any common elements they all share? Perhaps a plugin or something thats called? I'm not sure. I'm seeing this issue from basically clicking on Liferea (RSS reader) links and it's supposed to open up firefox browsers and I just noticed it from there onwards. Do the errors crop up only when you open firefox by clicking through liferea, or do the errors also appear when you visit the pages manually? I did some digging with google and there does seem to be some problems with using liferea mozilla/firefox together. Is liferea opening a firefox window within itself (similar to those annoying apps with a builtin MSIE browser) or is firefox opening the URL itself? -Drew -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Corrupt xD card with photos
Sven Köhler wrote: First thing that i see is: where the hell is /dev/sda1? Yes, there should be a FAT partition on that xD card, but it's not there. So first step: Re-create a primary FAT partition without formatting it (for example use cfdisk) This is worth a try. However, I would first dump the whole card to a file, make a copy of the file, and try all recovery attempts on the copy. This way, you can always go back to the original and try something else. Make a copy: dd if=/dev/sda of=xd.img bs=1M Make a working copy: cp xd.img xd_work.img Re-create the partition table: fdisk -b 512 -C 1024 -H 5 -S 50 xd_work.img Enter: n, p, 1, 1, 1024, t, 6, w (Not quite sure about the partition type (6), you might want to try other types like FAT32 (b)) Try to mount the partition: mkdir mnt mount -o ro,loop,offset=25600 xd_work.img mnt (25600 is 50 (number of sectors) * 512 (bytes per sector), that's the start of the first partition) Most of this will have to be done as root, so please be careful. Good luck! -- Remy Remove underscore and suffix in reply address for a timely response. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Real CPU speed
How can I determine my current CPU speed? I have a Celeron 700 that should be running at 1050 if I insulated one of its pins correctly. All of the information I can find on determining CPU speed is related to mobile speedstep processors and mine is a desktop CPU. Try 'cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq' Unfortunately: cat: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq: No such file or directory - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about arts.
On 9/11/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, As some may already know, I'm doing a new install on another hard drive. I have a question about arts. I have this for a sound card: 01:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a) Do I need to compile KDE with arts support with this card? I never have started alsasound before, if that has anything to do with it, and sound works fine. arts is never needed for multiple alsa-capable applications to access any sound card now, as the dmix plugin is enabled by default since alsa version 1.0.9. OSS-only applications are still a problem however, as only one can access the sound card at a time. That said, arts is still useful for KDE 3.5 if you want sound notifications for error popups, login/logout events, etc, as it makes notifications perform much much better IME. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about arts.
Richard Fish wrote: On 9/11/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, As some may already know, I'm doing a new install on another hard drive. I have a question about arts. I have this for a sound card: 01:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a) Do I need to compile KDE with arts support with this card? I never have started alsasound before, if that has anything to do with it, and sound works fine. arts is never needed for multiple alsa-capable applications to access any sound card now, as the dmix plugin is enabled by default since alsa version 1.0.9. OSS-only applications are still a problem however, as only one can access the sound card at a time. That said, arts is still useful for KDE 3.5 if you want sound notifications for error popups, login/logout events, etc, as it makes notifications perform much much better IME. -Richard Thanks. Now to start the whooper compile. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about arts.
On 12 September 2006 08:22, Dale wrote: Hi, As some may already know, I'm doing a new install on another hard drive. I have a question about arts. I have this for a sound card: 01:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a) Do I need to compile KDE with arts support with this card? I never have started alsasound before, if that has anything to do with it, and sound works fine. I'm about to start the big KDE compile and was wondering before I started. If you want all the KDE goodies in the sound domain (system notifications and such) you better do for the time being (pre-KDE4). Uwe -- Mark Twain: I rather decline two drinks than a German adjective. http://www.SysEx.com.na -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about arts.
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 09:37, Richard Fish wrote: That said, arts is still useful for KDE 3.5 if you want sound notifications for error popups, login/logout events, etc, as it makes notifications perform much much better IME. As in compiling kdelibs with the arts use flag and then disabling arts in kcontrol? Or as in actually enabling the arts use flag globally and using arts? :O I'll have to say I'm a bit curious about how you get to the conclusion that the latter would be better than the former... -- Bo Andresen pgpeQgK0fiNru.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Corrupt xD card with photos
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 08:26, Remy Blank wrote: This is worth a try. However, I would first dump the whole card to a file, make a copy of the file, and try all recovery attempts on the copy. This way, you can always go back to the original and try something else. Blast! Too late now - I've tried to recreate the partition table (see other message). But this is a very sensible approach and I should have thought of it at the time. Thank you very much for your advice - well worth bookmarking this one! Make a copy: dd if=/dev/sda of=xd.img bs=1M Make a working copy: cp xd.img xd_work.img Re-create the partition table: fdisk -b 512 -C 1024 -H 5 -S 50 xd_work.img Enter: n, p, 1, 1, 1024, t, 6, w (Not quite sure about the partition type (6), you might want to try other types like FAT32 (b)) Try to mount the partition: mkdir mnt mount -o ro,loop,offset=25600 xd_work.img mnt (25600 is 50 (number of sectors) * 512 (bytes per sector), that's the start of the first partition) Most of this will have to be done as root, so please be careful. Good luck! -- Remy Remove underscore and suffix in reply address for a timely response. -- Regards, Mick pgpb7TxvOWHBC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem on installing Gnome (gnome-light) (gnome-light started)
Hi Bo, Tke for your advice. To get equery you need to emerge app-portage/gentoolkit. # emerge app-portage/gentoolkit. # emerge app-portage/gentoolkit # equery check gnome-base/gnome-session gnome-session not found # equery check gdm gdm not found # emerge gnome-session and manually upgraded 16 conf files. # emerge gdm and manually upgraded 14 conf files. # /etc/init.d/xdm stop /etc/init.d/xdm start # nano /etc/rc.conf un-commented DISPLAYMANAGER=xdm and changed xdm to gdm rebooted PC. Display manager started with login page displayed. Login as root Gnome-light started with its logo displaying a while and faded out with following warning:- - There was an error starting Gnome Settings Daemon - Something such as themes, sounds, or background setting may not work correct - The Setting Daemon restarted too many times - The last error message was There was an unknown activation error Gnome will still try to restort the Settings Daemon next time your login * * * END * * * Evoked Xterm window # shutdown -r now Gnome-light started and died as previously. Before I was not aware gnome-session not coming with gnome-light and gdm not installed. B.R. SL -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about arts.
Uwe Thiem wrote: On 12 September 2006 08:22, Dale wrote: Hi, As some may already know, I'm doing a new install on another hard drive. I have a question about arts. I have this for a sound card: 01:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a) Do I need to compile KDE with arts support with this card? I never have started alsasound before, if that has anything to do with it, and sound works fine. I'm about to start the big KDE compile and was wondering before I started. If you want all the KDE goodies in the sound domain (system notifications and such) you better do for the time being (pre-KDE4). Uwe I did. It has been working so far. I'm just trying to clean up a little here. My old install has really been put through the works while I have been learning Gentoo for the past 3 years or so. Doing a really nice clean install. Thanks Dale :-) :-) :D :D -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about arts.
On 9/12/06, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 12 September 2006 09:37, Richard Fish wrote: That said, arts is still useful for KDE 3.5 if you want sound notifications for error popups, login/logout events, etc, as it makes notifications perform much much better IME. As in compiling kdelibs with the arts use flag and then disabling arts in kcontrol? Or as in actually enabling the arts use flag globally and using arts? :O The latter... I'll have to say I'm a bit curious about how you get to the conclusion that the latter would be better than the former... ...well I was playing with this last week. Without arts enabled in kcontrol, and KDE set to use an external player, I recall having a noticable delay between when a dialog appeared or other event occurred and when the sound would play. With arts enabled and playing sounds through it, the sounds played almost immediately. I could be incorrect on this though, as I was having problems with notifications playing in general, even through artsd (which I eventually traced to having artsplugin-xine installed _without_ artsplugin-audiofile, which caused artsd to want to play all audio through xine plugins, and fail with unable to open file more often than not). Others are welcome to share their experiences with external players and KDE notifications. ;-) -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about arts.
Richard Fish wrote: On 9/12/06, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 12 September 2006 09:37, Richard Fish wrote: That said, arts is still useful for KDE 3.5 if you want sound notifications for error popups, login/logout events, etc, as it makes notifications perform much much better IME. As in compiling kdelibs with the arts use flag and then disabling arts in kcontrol? Or as in actually enabling the arts use flag globally and using arts? :O The latter... I'll have to say I'm a bit curious about how you get to the conclusion that the latter would be better than the former... ...well I was playing with this last week. Without arts enabled in kcontrol, and KDE set to use an external player, I recall having a noticable delay between when a dialog appeared or other event occurred and when the sound would play. With arts enabled and playing sounds through it, the sounds played almost immediately. I could be incorrect on this though, as I was having problems with notifications playing in general, even through artsd (which I eventually traced to having artsplugin-xine installed _without_ artsplugin-audiofile, which caused artsd to want to play all audio through xine plugins, and fail with unable to open file more often than not). Others are welcome to share their experiences with external players and KDE notifications. ;-) -Richard Now that you mentioned it, a long time ago I had to use a external player because I could not get any sound at all. This was a long time ago though. Maybe a year to year and a half or so. I think I was using KDE 3.4 or so. I kept the flag in there just in case. It can't hurt that much I guess. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about arts.
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 11:14, Richard Fish wrote: As in compiling kdelibs with the arts use flag and then disabling arts in kcontrol? Or as in actually enabling the arts use flag globally and using arts? :O The latter... I'll have to say I'm a bit curious about how you get to the conclusion that the latter would be better than the former... ...well I was playing with this last week. Without arts enabled in kcontrol, and KDE set to use an external player, I recall having a noticable delay between when a dialog appeared or other event occurred and when the sound would play. With arts enabled and playing sounds through it, the sounds played almost immediately. I could be incorrect on this though, as I was having problems with notifications playing in general, even through artsd (which I eventually traced to having artsplugin-xine installed _without_ artsplugin-audiofile, which caused artsd to want to play all audio through xine plugins, and fail with unable to open file more often than not). Others are welcome to share their experiences with external players and KDE notifications. ;-) Thanks for clarification. :) IIRC KDE notifications didn't work at all if I didn't compile kdelibs with the arts use flag. Anyhow, my current approach is to compile kde-base/kdelibs with the arts use flag and everything else without it. In kcontrol in Sound Multimedia - Sound system I have disabled the sound system and in Sound Multimedia - System Notifications - Player Settings I have chosen /usr/bin/playsound as external player. I at least haven't noticed any delays. $ equery belongs playsound [ Searching for file(s) playsound in *... ] media-libs/sdl-sound-1.0.1-r1 (/usr/bin/playsound) YMMV -- Bo Andresen pgpc47SwZlHkx.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Installation (from live DVD) fails - please help
Hi, I'm a gentoo newbie (but have installed many Linux systems) Using the i686 livedvd I tried to install gentoo in expert mode. I even partitioned the harddisk before (using some rescue cd). The partition list (obtained when running the gentoo livedvd) is Disk /dev/sda: 251.0 GB, 251000193024 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30515 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 1130010442218+ 83 Linux /dev/sda21301680044178750 83 Linux /dev/sda36801 1780088357500 83 Linux /dev/sda4 17801 30515 102133237+ 5 Extended /dev/sda5 17801 2330044178718+ 83 Linux /dev/sda6 23301 3051557954456 83 Linux I even created an ext3 filesystem on each of the Linux partitions. But, the installation terminates nearly immediately with an error message. The file /var/log/installer.log says GLI: September 12 2006 11:45:28 - Gentoo Linux Installer version 0.4.1 GLI: September 12 2006 11:45:28 - Setting root password. GLI: September 12 2006 11:45:28 - Portmap started. GLI: September 12 2006 11:45:28 - Completed pre_install steps GLI: September 12 2006 11:51:23 - partition(): Processing /dev/sda... GLI: September 12 2006 11:51:23 - Exception received during 'Partition': UnknownPartitionTypeError :FATAL: partition: Refusing to partition this drive due to the presence of an unknown type of partition GLI: September 12 2006 11:51:23 - Traceback (most recent call last): GLI: September 12 2006 11:51:23 - File /opt/installer/GLIClientController.py, line 197, in run self._install_steps[self._install_step]['function']() GLI: September 12 2006 11:51:23 - File /opt/installer/templates/x86ArchitectureTemplate.py, line 409, in partition raise GLIException(UnknownPartitionTypeError, 'fatal', 'partition', Refusing to partition this drive due to the presence of an unknown type of partition) GLI: September 12 2006 11:51:23 - GLIException: UnknownPartitionTypeError :FATAL: partition: Refusing to partition this drive due to the presence of an unknown type of partition Can anybody please explain that error message (since the partition flag is correct (83)) I specified mkfs option '-t ext3' . Can this causes this error message? Many thanks for your help. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about arts.
On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 01:50:01 -0500, Dale wrote: xorg-server is a result of the new modular X. xorg-x11 depends on xorg-server, so you emerge xorg-x11, which then emerges the X-server proper Uh oh. I hope I can go back and emerge xorg-x11 and it all works OK. Here we go. You shouldn't need to explicitly emerge xorg, just let portage pull in the correct package as a dependency of whatever X programs you install. -- Neil Bothwick Make like a tree and leave. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Purging Gnome from the system
Hi, I decided to purge Gnome from my system as I seldom run it. A quick look in the gnome ebuild shows that it's a ginormous -meta package, meaning I have some work ahead of me. First I updated USE and removed gnome, gstreamer and other gnome-related flags. I left gtk in for the likes of gimp which I do use. Then manually unmerged a ton of gnome packages, intending to finish up with 'emerge --depclean' and 'revdep-rebuild' to fix the mistakes I'd made. Imagine my surprise when remerging openoffice wants to pull in half of gnome again. I can understand it needs gtk, I do not understand why it wants evolution-data-server, gconf and gnome-panel. I know how to fix this, that's not my question. My question is why on earth does an office suite depend on half a desktop environment? And is there a (relatively) easy way to get my system back to the state it would be in if I had always had -gnome in USE all along? alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Purging Gnome from the system
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 13:01, Alan McKinnon wrote: Imagine my surprise when remerging openoffice wants to pull in half of gnome again. I can understand it needs gtk, I do not understand why it wants evolution-data-server, gconf and gnome-panel. Not sure (I don't use gnome nor openoffice), but I think it's the eds USE flag that wants to pull evolution-data-server in. Doing a USE=-eds emerge -pv openoffice doesn't list evolution-data-server as a dependency. sorry, don't know about gnome-panel. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Purging Gnome from the system
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 13:01, Alan McKinnon wrote: I decided to purge Gnome from my system as I seldom run it. A quick look in the gnome ebuild shows that it's a ginormous -meta package, meaning I have some work ahead of me. First I updated USE and removed gnome, gstreamer and other gnome-related flags. I left gtk in for the likes of gimp which I do use. gimp doesn't require the gtk use flag globally. The only thing it needs to be compiled with the gtk use flag is app-text/poppler-bindings. The only packages that I have compiled with gtk are app-text/poppler-bindings, app-editors/gvim and net-analyzer/wireshark. Then manually unmerged a ton of gnome packages, intending to finish up with 'emerge --depclean' and 'revdep-rebuild' to fix the mistakes I'd made. An easier approach here might be to just edit /var/lib/portage/world manually and remove the gnome etc. apps that you are no longer interested in and let emerge --depclean -va do it's job... Imagine my surprise when remerging openoffice wants to pull in half of gnome again. I can understand it needs gtk, I do not understand why it wants evolution-data-server, gconf and gnome-panel. Add -eds to your use flags. openoffice doesn't wan't a single gnome app on my computer so if it still wants some it because of some use flag... -- Bo Andresen pgpAUh05lRLnh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Purging Gnome from the system
On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 13:01:10 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: First I updated USE and removed gnome, gstreamer and other gnome-related flags. I left gtk in for the likes of gimp which I do use. GTK is not option for Gimp, so it doesn't use the gtk USE flag. Imagine my surprise when remerging openoffice wants to pull in half of gnome again. I can understand it needs gtk, I do not understand why it wants evolution-data-server, gconf and gnome-panel. Remove eds from USE. emerge --tree --verbose openoffice will help. -- Neil Bothwick Windows '96 artificial intelligence: Unable to FORMAT A: Having a go at C: signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Purging Gnome from the system
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 13:36, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Tuesday 12 September 2006 13:01, Alan McKinnon wrote: Imagine my surprise when remerging openoffice wants to pull in half of gnome again. I can understand it needs gtk, I do not understand why it wants evolution-data-server, gconf and gnome-panel. Not sure (I don't use gnome nor openoffice), but I think it's the eds USE flag that wants to pull evolution-data-server in. Doing a USE=-eds emerge -pv openoffice doesn't list evolution-data-server as a dependency. So right now the score is stupidity:1 alan:0 I'd looked at the flags for a good three minutes and somehow managed to translate eds into esd in my head... Thanks, this was one quick answer that I *really* needed! alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Purging Gnome from the system
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 13:12, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: gimp doesn't require the gtk use flag globally. The only thing it needs to be compiled with the gtk use flag is app-text/poppler-bindings. The only packages that I have compiled with gtk are app-text/poppler-bindings, app-editors/gvim and net-analyzer/wireshark. That's good info, thanks Then manually unmerged a ton of gnome packages, intending to finish up with 'emerge --depclean' and 'revdep-rebuild' to fix the mistakes I'd made. An easier approach here might be to just edit /var/lib/portage/world manually and remove the gnome etc. apps that you are no longer interested in and let emerge --depclean -va do it's job... You're right, this would have been much easier, I'll keep it in mind for next time (if there is a next time!) Imagine my surprise when remerging openoffice wants to pull in half of gnome again. I can understand it needs gtk, I do not understand why it wants evolution-data-server, gconf and gnome-panel. Add -eds to your use flags. openoffice doesn't wan't a single gnome app on my computer so if it still wants some it because of some use flag... Yeah, like I said to Etaoin, I'd stupidly parsed that as 'esd'... alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerging gnome-light without X support
On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 05:12:18PM +0200, Harm Geerts wrote: On Monday 11 September 2006 16:23, Rafael Fernández López wrote: On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 02:26:59PM +0200, Harm Geerts wrote: If you're planning to use a remote X server you, you should compile xorg-server with USE=minimal. Then gnome can link to the libraries it needs but you don't need to install a complete X server. Yes, I wanted a remote X server. OK, I'll add minimal flag to my USE variable. Don't add it to your global USE flags ! I didn't pretend to. I mis-explained myself, I wanted to say add minimal flag to my USE variable in xorg-x11. That's /usr/portage/package.use. Thanks for the warning anyway. minimal USE flag enabled globally and a emerge -vuDN world could be desastrous. xDD. Thank you, Rafael Fernández López. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentooism
On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 01:05:38AM -0500, Dale wrote: Don't forget the AMEN too. LOL The AMEN is Gentoo. xD Bye, Rafael Fernández López. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Purging Gnome from the system
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 13:50, Philip Webb wrote: I also get equery depends evolution-data-server [ Searching for packages depending on evolution-data-server... ] app-office/openoffice-2.0.3 So it looks as if OO may have its own reasons for demanding e-d-s . No, it just looks like equery is broken. It doesn't care about your use flags... -- Bo Andresen pgpIYoetYXkFb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Purging Gnome from the system
Alan McKinnon wrote: Hi, I decided to purge Gnome from my system as I seldom run it. A quick look in the gnome ebuild shows that it's a ginormous -meta package, meaning I have some work ahead of me. First I updated USE and removed gnome, gstreamer and other gnome-related flags. I left gtk in for the likes of gimp which I do use. Then manually unmerged a ton of gnome packages, intending to finish up with 'emerge --depclean' and 'revdep-rebuild' to fix the mistakes I'd made. Imagine my surprise when remerging openoffice wants to pull in half of gnome again. I can understand it needs gtk, I do not understand why it wants evolution-data-server, gconf and gnome-panel. I know how to fix this, that's not my question. My question is why on earth does an office suite depend on half a desktop environment? And is there a (relatively) easy way to get my system back to the state it would be in if I had always had -gnome in USE all along? alan If this helps any, I have never had Gnome installed and have this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # equery list gnome [ Searching for package 'gnome' in all categories among: ] * installed packages [I--] [ ] dev-cpp/gnome-vfsmm-2.6.1 (1.1) [I--] [ ] dev-cpp/libgnomecanvasmm-2.6.1 (2.6) [I--] [ ] dev-cpp/libgnomemm-2.6.0 (2.6) [I--] [ ] dev-cpp/libgnomeuimm-2.6.0 (2.6) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/gnome-common-1.2.4-r4 (2) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/gnome-keyring-0.4.9 (0) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.4.2 (1) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/gnome-mime-data-2.4.2 (0) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/gnome-print-0.37 (0) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-1.0.5-r4 (1) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.14.2-r1 (2) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/libgnome-2.14.1 (0) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/libgnomecanvas-2.14.0 (0) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/libgnomeprint-2.12.1 (2.2) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/libgnomeprintui-2.12.1 (2.2) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.14.1 (0) [I--] [ ] net-print/libgnomecups-0.2.0 (0) [I--] [ ] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.14.2 (0) [I--] [ ] x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.14.2 (0) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # My USE line is this: USE=acl acpi alsa amd arts artswrappersuid automount browserplugin bzip2 cdr chroot crypt dbus doc dvd dvdr esd exif fdftk -firefox gaim gcj gif gimp gimpprint gkrellm -gnome gphoto2 gtk hal hbci ipv6 java javascript jbig jpeg jpeg2k justify kde mmx mp3 nsplugin ofx offensive opengl -oss postgres ppds qt3 qt4 samba scanner seamonkey sqlite sse syslog tcltk tiff tk truetype udev usb win32codecs wmf X xmms xml xprint yahoo 3dnow May be able to cheat a little and get rid of some more though. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerging gnome-light without X support
On 12/09/06, Rafael Fernández López [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 05:12:18PM +0200, Harm Geerts wrote: On Monday 11 September 2006 16:23, Rafael Fernández López wrote: On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 02:26:59PM +0200, Harm Geerts wrote: If you're planning to use a remote X server you, you should compile xorg-server with USE=minimal. Then gnome can link to the libraries it needs but you don't need to install a complete X server. Yes, I wanted a remote X server. OK, I'll add minimal flag to my USE variable. Don't add it to your global USE flags !I didn't pretend to. I mis-explained myself, I wanted to say addminimal flag to my USE variable in xorg-x11. That's /usr/portage/package.use. Thanks for the warning anyway. minimal USEflag enabled globally and a emerge -vuDN world could bedesastrous. xDD.Just to stop another potential misunderstanding: pretender in Spanish = to aim to in English. pretend in English is fingir in Spanish! Jeff Rollin
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentooism
Rafael Fernández López wrote: On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 01:05:38AM -0500, Dale wrote: Don't forget the AMEN too. LOL The AMEN is Gentoo. xD Bye, Rafael Fernández López. Sounded more like a sneeze to me. LOL Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Real CPU speed
Hi, On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 20:31:00 -0700 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I determine my current CPU speed? I have a Celeron 700 that should be running at 1050 if I insulated one of its pins correctly. All of the information I can find on determining CPU speed is related to mobile speedstep processors and mine is a desktop CPU. - Grant Hi Grant, try cat /proc/cpuinfo which will give you a hint, what the Linux kernel thinks what you CPU is and with which clock it runs. Yes, but the kernel will ask the CPU for some of that information. Darn: cpu MHz : 697.899 More interesting is probably the bogomips value, or better: the amount that value has changed. Maybe there's still a trace in /var/log/messages from a bootup before overclocking. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BogoMips for some information about approximate multipliers for determining MHz from that. Will do! Any way you know of to check my front side bus and memory bus speed? Oscilloscope! :-) Maybe your BIOS has monitoring for such values? -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerge wireshark fails
Hi,
wireshark won't compile, saying that perl is built with the
minimal use flag. Only, it isn't.
The wireshark failure:
!!! ERROR: net-analyzer/wireshark-0.99.3 failed.
Call stack:
ebuild.sh, line 1562: Called dyn_setup
ebuild.sh, line 665: Called pkg_setup
wireshark-0.99.3.ebuild, line 44: Called
built_with_use 'dev-lang/perl' 'minimal'
eutils.eclass, line 1605: Called die
!!! dev-lang/perl-5.8.8-r2 does not actually support the minimal
USE flag!
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the
call stack if relevant.
** perl USE flags:
gentoo ~ # emerge -pv perl
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild R ] dev-lang/perl-5.8.8-r2 USE=berkdb doc
gdbm -build -debug -ithreads -perlsuid 0 kB
* line in the wireshark ebuild that fails is this one:
pkg_setup() {
# bug 119208
if built_with_use dev-lang/perl minimal ; then
Anyone seen this before? Am I being stupid (again) or is it a
bug? And if so, where might the bug be - perl, wireshark, or
the portage scripts?
alan
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge wireshark fails
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 14:48, Alan McKinnon wrote: wireshark won't compile, saying that perl is built with the minimal use flag. Only, it isn't. The wireshark failure: !!! ERROR: net-analyzer/wireshark-0.99.3 failed. Call stack: ebuild.sh, line 1562: Called dyn_setup ebuild.sh, line 665: Called pkg_setup wireshark-0.99.3.ebuild, line 44: Called built_with_use 'dev-lang/perl' 'minimal' eutils.eclass, line 1605: Called die !!! dev-lang/perl-5.8.8-r2 does not actually support the minimal USE flag! [SNIP] Anyone seen this before? Am I being stupid (again) or is it a bug? And if so, where might the bug be - perl, wireshark, or the portage scripts? It's a bug in the wireshark ebuild. It hasn't been noticed until now because it was silently ignored until yesterday. For details look at [1]. This has been reported in [2]. Please use bugzilla to search before asking these questions... [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146655 [2] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146839 -- Bo Andresen pgpZyA712TOhM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge wireshark fails
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 14:48, Alan McKinnon wrote:
pkg_setup() {
# bug 119208
if built_with_use dev-lang/perl minimal ; then
Anyone seen this before? Am I being stupid (again) or is it a
bug? And if so, where might the bug be - perl, wireshark, or
the portage scripts?
Might be this:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146839
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[gentoo-user] Portage and ati-drivers
Hi, Why would portage want to install ati-drivers when it is not on my system, not in my package.keywords file and not in my world file? Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage and ati-drivers
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 15:09, Colleen Beamer wrote: Why would portage want to install ati-drivers when it is not on my system, not in my package.keywords file and not in my world file? Because VIDEO_CARDS in /etc/make.conf includes fglrx? If you are still confused please post the output of: # grep ^VIDEO_CARDS /etc/make.conf # emerge --info | grep ^USE -- Bo Andresen pgppjCu4oCSJ9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge wireshark fails
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 15:00, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: Anyone seen this before? Am I being stupid (again) or is it a bug? And if so, where might the bug be - perl, wireshark, or the portage scripts? It's a bug in the wireshark ebuild. It hasn't been noticed until now because it was silently ignored until yesterday. For details look at [1]. This has been reported in [2]. Please use bugzilla to search before asking these questions... Except that this behaviour I see is neither of the cases you mention. They relate to the bahaviour when the minimal flag is set. I'm getting the error when the flag is NOT set. There is no reason why this line should return true on my system: if built_with_use dev-lang/perl minimal In case I still had an ancient faulty perl binary hanging around, I also remerged perl and tried to emerge wireshark again. Same error. So this is not the same bug as any of the 4 on the wiki. alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Purging Gnome from the system
060912 Bo ?rsted Andresen wrote: On Tuesday 12 September 2006 13:50, Philip Webb wrote: I also get equery depends evolution-data-server [ Searching for packages depending on evolution-data-server... ] app-office/openoffice-2.0.3 So it looks as if OO may have its own reasons for demanding e-d-s . No, it just looks like equery is broken. It doesn't care about your use flags... Equery is broken ?? Have you filed a bug ... (raises eyebrows) ? The Openoffice ebuild has IUSE=binfilter cairo eds firefox gnome gtk java kde ldap mono odk pam xml lower down RDEPEND= ... eds? ( =gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-1.2 ) ... Perhaps that overrides my settings in /etc/make.conf one has to say explicitly USE=-eds -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Simplified apache2
Hello,
I used 2006.1 livecd to install a pII machine. It's going
to becomme a (minimalistic) apache2 server. I just let the
installation
set the flags for the install so I have these flags currently:
CURRENT
USE= X alsa arts avi berkdb bitmap-fonts cairo cdr cli crypt
cups dbus dlloader
dri dvd dvdr eds elibc_glibc emboss encode esd fam firefox
fortran gdbm gif
gnome gpm gstreamer gtk hal input_devices_evdev
input_devices_keyboard
input_devices_mouse ipv6 isdnlog jpeg kde kernel_linux
ldap libg++ mad mikmod
mp3 mpeg ncurses nls nptl nptlonly ogg opengl oss pam pcre
pdflib perl png ppds
pppd python qt3 qt4 quicktime readline reflection sdl session
spell spl ssl tcpd
truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts udev unicode
userland_GNU vorbis win32codecs
x86 xml xorg xv zlib apache2
Some of these flag look questionable, such as the one with
underscores (kernel_linux userland_GNU) as I only found
information on them, where they are describe as 'undocumented
use flags'. What's up with these flags?
Where do I look to discern the minimal list of (necessary) system
flags that
must be kept? (I want to avoid negating any flags that are critical).
These are my proposed list of flags:
PROPOSED
USE= berkdb bitmap-fonts dbus hal jpeg ldap mp3 mpeg ncurses
nls nptl nptlonly
ogg pam pcre pdflib perl png python quicktime readline sdl ssl
tcpd truetype
truetype-fonts type1-fonts udev unicode vorbis win32codecs xml
xv zlib apache2
So can I just use this list, or do I have to incluce a -{flag} for each one?
IS there simmpler syntax to globally remove unwanted flags [-*], but, not any
critical system flags? (Is this the same as just leaving the flag out
of the USE param. setting in make.conf?
Are there default system flag settings that I can safely remove?
Where is the list and how do I know which ones can be removed or negated?
My (limited) understanding of flags are that the highest priority are
those set in /etc/portage/package.use, then /etc/make.conf then
the system default flags which may be located in several locations.
Is there any docs or listing of all of these location and details
on precedence?
James
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage and ati-drivers
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Tuesday 12 September 2006 15:09, Colleen Beamer wrote: Why would portage want to install ati-drivers when it is not on my system, not in my package.keywords file and not in my world file? Because VIDEO_CARDS in /etc/make.conf includes fglrx? If you are still confused please post the output of: # grep ^VIDEO_CARDS /etc/make.conf Nope, not the reason either. :-) VIDEO_CARDS in make.conf set to radeon only. Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge wireshark fails
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 15:28, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 14:48, Alan McKinnon wrote:
pkg_setup() {
# bug 119208
if built_with_use dev-lang/perl minimal ; then
Anyone seen this before? Am I being stupid (again) or is it
a bug? And if so, where might the bug be - perl, wireshark,
or the portage scripts?
Might be this:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146839
Might be the same cause, but the symptom is orthogonally
opposite :-)
I filed a new bug, now the devs can compare them and see what's
to be fixed.
alan
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage and ati-drivers
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 15:41, Colleen Beamer wrote: Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Tuesday 12 September 2006 15:09, Colleen Beamer wrote: Why would portage want to install ati-drivers when it is not on my system, not in my package.keywords file and not in my world file? Because VIDEO_CARDS in /etc/make.conf includes fglrx? If you are still confused please post the output of: # grep ^VIDEO_CARDS /etc/make.conf Nope, not the reason either. :-) VIDEO_CARDS in make.conf set to radeon only. Hmm... how about: # grep video_cards /etc/make.conf /etc/portage/package.use ? Otherwise emerge --tree is your friend to see what pulls it in. -- Bo Andresen pgpYKiW2pT8Hk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Purging Gnome from the system
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 15:37, Philip Webb wrote: No, it just looks like equery is broken. It doesn't care about your use flags... Equery is broken ?? Have you filed a bug ... (raises eyebrows) ? No, I usually don't file duplicates on purpose. Is it really so hard to search bugzilla? http://tinyurl.com/zhydm The Openoffice ebuild has IUSE=binfilter cairo eds firefox gnome gtk java kde ldap mono odk pam xml lower down RDEPEND= ... eds? ( =gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-1.2 ) ... Which means if the eds use flag is set it depends on =evolution-data-server-1.2 at runtime. Perhaps that overrides my settings in /etc/make.conf one has to say explicitly USE=-eds Overrides?? It doesn't! If you still don't believe me try: # emerge -pve openoffice -- Bo Andresen pgpvSUZwUgSXs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage and ati-drivers
On 9/12/06, Colleen Beamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Tuesday 12 September 2006 15:09, Colleen Beamer wrote: Why would portage want to install ati-drivers when it is not on my system, not in my package.keywords file and not in my world file? Because VIDEO_CARDS in /etc/make.conf includes fglrx? If you are still confused please post the output of: # grep ^VIDEO_CARDS /etc/make.conf Nope, not the reason either. :-) VIDEO_CARDS in make.conf set to radeon only. maybe equery depends ati-drivers ? (Or some form of that command?) - Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage and ati-drivers
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 15:41, Colleen Beamer wrote: Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Tuesday 12 September 2006 15:09, Colleen Beamer wrote: Why would portage want to install ati-drivers when it is not on my system, not in my package.keywords file and not in my world file? Because VIDEO_CARDS in /etc/make.conf includes fglrx? If you are still confused please post the output of: # grep ^VIDEO_CARDS /etc/make.conf Nope, not the reason either. :-) VIDEO_CARDS in make.conf set to radeon only. Perhaps you have google-earth installed, or some other app that requires hardware 3D. That's what happened to me: gentoo ~ # equery depends ati-drivers [ Searching for packages depending on ati-drivers... ] x11-misc/googleearth-4_beta x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0-r1 alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge wireshark fails
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 15:34, Alan McKinnon wrote: Anyone seen this before? Am I being stupid (again) or is it a bug? And if so, where might the bug be - perl, wireshark, or the portage scripts? It's a bug in the wireshark ebuild. It hasn't been noticed until now because it was silently ignored until yesterday. For details look at [1]. This has been reported in [2]. Please use bugzilla to search before asking these questions... Except that this behaviour I see is neither of the cases you mention. They relate to the bahaviour when the minimal flag is set. I'm getting the error when the flag is NOT set. There is no reason why this line should return true on my system: Please read more carefully. Whether it is set or not is irrelevant. The problem is that your version doesn't have minimal use flag at all yet the wireshark tests whether it's set... -- Bo Andresen pgpqsQEKdjmqz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage and ati-drivers
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 16:12, Alan McKinnon wrote: Nope, not the reason either. :-) VIDEO_CARDS in make.conf set to radeon only. Perhaps you have google-earth installed, or some other app that requires hardware 3D. That's what happened to me: gentoo ~ # equery depends ati-drivers [ Searching for packages depending on ati-drivers... ] x11-misc/googleearth-4_beta x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0-r1 Not really. xorg-x11 requires ati-drivers only if you have fglrx in VIDEO_CARDS (or video_cards_fglrx in use flags) and googlearth has a dependency (on amd64) on any of the following: # cat /usr/portage/x11-misc/googleearth/googleearth-4_beta.ebuild [...] RDEPEND=[...] [...] || ( =app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-xlibs-7.0 =media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.6629-r3 x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers x11-drivers/nvidia-legacy-drivers =x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.8.25-r1 ) [...] If *any* of those packages are installed the requirement is satisfied and it won't pull in any others. If none are installed it will install the first on the list (=app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-xlibs-7.0). Hence it will never pull ati-drivers in... -- Bo Andresen pgpFRrcIVvZF9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge wireshark fails
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 15:42, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
Please read more carefully. Whether it is set or not is
irrelevant. The problem is that your version doesn't have
minimal use flag at all yet the wireshark tests whether it's
set...
OK, now this is starting to make more sense. The ebuild does
this test:
wireshark-0.99.3.ebuild:44 -
if built_with_use dev-lang/perl minimal ; then
and built_with_use fails because of this
eutils.eclass:1604 -
local IUSE_BUILT=$(${IUSEFILE})
has $1 ${IUSE_BUILT} || die $PKG does not actually support the
$1 USE flag!
If this were C++ I'd be throwing an exception about now.
alan
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Re: [gentoo-user] Simplified apache2
On 9/12/06, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I used 2006.1 livecd to install a pII machine. It's going
to become a (minimalistic) apache2 server. I just let the
installation
set the flags for the install so I have these flags currently:
snip
Those look a bit excessive for a minimalist machine. I would start over ;-)
Some of these flag look questionable, such as the one with
underscores (kernel_linux userland_GNU) as I only found
information on them, where they are describe as 'undocumented
use flags'. What's up with these flags?
My understanding is that these are set in the profile and simply tell
portage that you are using Linux. I don't think there is any way
(short of profile hacking) to change them. So don't worry about it.
Where do I look to discern the minimal list of (necessary) system
flags that
must be kept? (I want to avoid negating any flags that are critical).
These are my proposed list of flags:
snip
Still a little excessive in my opinion. The approach that I would (do)
take is to put only the bare minimum use flags in make.conf and
override the rest on a per-package level in /etc/portage/package.use.
So can I just use this list, or do I have to include a -{flag} for each one?
IS there simpler syntax to globally remove unwanted flags [-*], but, not any
critical system flags? (Is this the same as just leaving the flag out
of the USE param. setting in make.conf?
-* will work but be careful it can break things if you don't know what
your doing.
Are there default system flag settings that I can safely remove?
Where is the list and how do I know which ones can be removed or negated?
My (limited) understanding of flags are that the highest priority are
those set in /etc/portage/package.use, then /etc/make.conf then
the system default flags which may be located in several locations.
Is there any docs or listing of all of these location and details
on precedence?
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=2
OK, my advice to you would be to start over with a hardened profile.
While hardened is not specifically required I highly recommend it if
this is just going to be a headless server machine.
You probably want to set your machine up with a similar USE= string in make.conf
USE=-* hardened pic ncurses ssl crypt berkdb tcpd pam perl python readline
I believe that is the bare minimum if you use -*. Now you can compile
your system and you have a blank slate to start working with. As you
start emerging packages just make sure you use the -pv flags for
emerge and check out the available use flags and add the ones you want
to /etc/portage/package.use. Here is an example of my package.use line
for apache2
net-www/apache mpm-prefork threads
This setup works smashingly for me on my production servers by YMMV.
Best of luck.
-Mike
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[gentoo-user] Re: Simplified apache2
Michael Crute mcrute at gmail.com writes: Those look a bit excessive for a minimalist machine. I would start over You probably want to set your machine up with a similar USE= string in make.conf USE=-* hardened pic ncurses ssl crypt berkdb tcpd pam perl python readline net-www/apache mpm-prefork threads Hello Mike, I'll give this approach a whirl. I use hardened on my firewalls and it works well. thx James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Help Configuring MoinMoin Wiki
Has anyone configured moinmon? I'm emerged it but when I try to access the site I'm getting the following error:Not FoundThe requested URL /moinmoin/moin.cgi was not found on this server.Apache Server at localhost Port 80 I can see the default page for apache at http://locahost, so I'm sure the web server is running.I followed directions provided at ( which may not have been what I needed ... ): http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpMiscellaneousHere is a configuration for virtual hosting with special permissions on Gentoo Linux. The following configuration is for Apache2 config files. Just put it all in httpd.conf for Apache 1. Add this to /etc/apache2/conf/vhosts/vhosts.conf NameVirtualHost *VirtualHost * ServerName www.domain.org ServerAlias domain.org DocumentRoot /var/www/domain.org/htdocs/VirtualHost VirtualHost * ServerName wiki.domain.org Alias /wiki/ /usr/share/moin/htdocs/ Alias /favicon.ico /var/www/htdocs/favicon.ico ScriptAlias / /usr/share/moin/mywiki/moin.cgi//VirtualHost Add this to /etc/apache2/conf/commonapache2.conf Directory /usr/share/moin/htdocs/ Order deny,allow Allow from all/DirectoryDirectory /usr/share/moin/domain.org/ Order deny,allow Allow from all/DirectoryI'm still getting the same error. I've also changed the /moinmoin directory to be owned by apache instead of root, but that has not had any affect either. Any ideas?Thanks,Shawn-- ...to raise a signal means to turn the light on; ... Responding to a signal means turning the light off (and, under System V, hoping thebulb won't blow when it's next turned on)...--- Dan Bernstein
Re: [gentoo-user] Real CPU speed
From: Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Real CPU speed Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 20:31:00 -0700 How can I determine my current CPU speed? I have a Celeron 700 that should be running at 1050 if I insulated one of its pins correctly. All of the information I can find on determining CPU speed is related to mobile speedstep processors and mine is a desktop CPU. - Grant Hi Grant, try cat /proc/cpuinfo which will give you a hint, what the Linux kernel thinks what you CPU is and with which clock it runs. Darn: cpu MHz : 697.899 Back to the overclocking forum. Keep hacking! mcc Will do! Any way you know of to check my front side bus and memory bus speed? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hi, if cat /proc/frontsidebus gives you: No such file or directory you will not have one :) -- VERY big smiley ! ;) I dont know what CPU is running for you, but some cupper-wire tricks only influence the multiplikator and this may (or may not) affect the cpuinfo entriesdont know for sure...I only mention this to keep you attention on the fact the nothing happens may result in nothing happens anymore when/if the CPU is internally near core melt in cpuinfo goes on holidays Keep hacking! mcc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Gnome admin browsers, and more!
On 9/12/06, A. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have finished a new Gentoo installation with Gnome as the desktop environment. It is working okay, except for a couple of issues: 1. The admin browsers (Services, Shares etc) do not work properly. When I try to open services-admin for example, as a normal user, the window comes up, all greyed out and nothing else happens! I am not a very experienced Gnome user, but I was expecting to be prompted for the root password. Something must be wrong with my configuration since running services-admin as root works! Try changing your launcher to use gksudo to launch services-admin (make sure you run visudo and allow yourself to run all commands). 2. The icon browser that pops up when attempting to put an icon on a custom app launcher does not browse anything other than /us/share/pixmaps. If I change to a different directory, I cannot select any of the icons in that directory! I find that I need to type the path (or browse to it) and press enter in the text field afterwards to display the icons in that directory. Has anybody experienced the same problems? I know that they are not very critical to the whole operation of the environment, but man, are they annoying? Sure are ;) I hope this helps! -- Neil Isaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] How to mount a reiserfs partition with write permissions to all users?
I googled a lot but wasn't able to find any answer on how to do this. umask=000 doesn't work with reiserfs. Thanks in advance. ___ Você quer respostas para suas perguntas? Ou você sabe muito e quer compartilhar seu conhecimento? Experimente o Yahoo! Respostas ! http://br.answers.yahoo.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to mount a reiserfs partition with write permissions to all users?
2006/9/12, Jerônimo Backes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I googled a lot but wasn't able to find any answer on how to do this. umask=000 doesn't work with reiserfs. Thanks in advance. Hi, reiserfs handles *nix permissions, just chmod 777 -R /your/mountpoint/ while your partition is mounted HTH. Boris. ___ Você quer respostas para suas perguntas? Ou você sabe muito e quer compartilhar seu conhecimento? Experimente o Yahoo! Respostas ! http://br.answers.yahoo.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Quiconque me parle de Dieu en veut à ma bourse ou à ma liberté. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to mount a reiserfs partition with write permissions to all users?
On 12/09/06, Jerônimo Backes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I googled a lot but wasn't able to find any answer on how to do this. umask=000 doesn't work with reiserfs. Thanks in advance. Hi, Simply use chmod on the mounted partition. chmod 777 /path/to/something It will be retained on the next mount. Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to mount a reiserfs partition with write permissions to all users?
I think personally the best is to use the pmount package, but I am not sure how secure that is, for *public* machines. You would only have to enter the drive in fstab, and the pmount.allow file, and mount the partition with pmount /dev/$DEV greets, k On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 14:27 -0300, Jerônimo Backes wrote: I googled a lot but wasn't able to find any answer on how to do this. umask=000 doesn't work with reiserfs. Thanks in advance. ___ Você quer respostas para suas perguntas? Ou você sabe muito e quer compartilhar seu conhecimento? Experimente o Yahoo! Respostas ! http://br.answers.yahoo.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage and ati-drivers
On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 04:12:36PM +0200, Penguin Lover Alan McKinnon squawked: Perhaps you have google-earth installed, or some other app that requires hardware 3D. That's what happened to me: GoogleEarth runs fine with the x11 radeon driver on my laptop, FWIW. So I doubt this would be a cause. W -- If you buy the paperback version of Maxwell's _Treatise_, on the cover, this diagram is drawn... worked out in the 1870's, without a pocket calculator... ~Prof. Kirk T. McDonald, DeathEM, P-town PHY 304 Sortir en Pantoufles: up 18 days, 11:21 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting ELOG to sent to an smtp server with ssl
On 9/1/06, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 01 September 2006 00:31, David Grant wrote: Anyone know how to get elog to send mail to an smtp server with ssl on port 465? I know it does starttls if you use 100465 as the port, but this server at work just does ssl with login authentication, no tls or starttls. I tried getting it to work, but no dice.Did you try:PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILURI=[EMAIL PROTECTED] user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:465Yeah, but I found that using sendmail (ssmtp) was actually easier especially since ssmtp was already set up.-- David Grant http://www.davidgrant.ca
Re: [gentoo-user] How to mount a reiserfs partition with write permissions to all users?
On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 19:33:56 +0200, Boris Fersing wrote: reiserfs handles *nix permissions, just chmod 777 -R /your/mountpoint/ Don't use -R, that will alter permissions on every file in the filesystem. -- Neil Bothwick ALZHEIMER.COM found . . . Out of . . . something . . signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How to mount a reiserfs partition with write permissions to all users?
Simply use chmod on the mounted partition. chmod 777 /path/to/something Thanks a lot, it worked as you said. It will be retained on the next mount. I thought this wouldn't happen, so I made this noob question. Thanks again. ___ Novidade no Yahoo! Mail: receba alertas de novas mensagens no seu celular. Registre seu aparelho agora! http://br.mobile.yahoo.com/mailalertas/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] installing an amd k6
Hello, After trying every both minimal and liveCD for 2006.1 with a K6 machine and the various options, such as gentoo-nofb acpi=off nox and nosmp. NOTHING worked. So I tried a mininal x86 CD from 2005 with these options: gentoo-nofb acpi=off nox and all it booted to a root promt I cannot seem to find the corresponding installation instructions, you know fdisk mkreiserfs /dev/hda2 Mounting the Partions: mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/gentoo mkdir /mnt/gentoo/boot chroot for a minimal x86 2006.0 or 2005.* installation? Going from my (fried-limited-dysfunctional) memory is not really a good idea... I did find the old handbook for 2005, but it was for using the liveCD... Anyone have a link to an old copy of a minmal install where everything is done by hand, chroot, setting up the make.conf, /etc/resolv.conf. and then completing the installation via the internet connection? Something I can download, as a rough guide? It seems that 2006.1 has abondoned the (K6) arch. Googling turns up lots of links but not a guide to a minimal install using an older installatoin CD. The machine is going to be a minimalistic server, just for DNS. thoughts and suggestions are most welcome. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage complaining when trying to install PHPMyAdmin
thanks Richard. I added unicode to USE, re-emerged PHP and Apache, then was able to emerge PHPMyAdmin and MediaWiki.On 9/8/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On 9/8/06, Shawn Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I was trying to install PHP and a couple other packages when I got the following error: * Checking for required PHP feature(s) ... * Discovered missing USE flag: unicode * * dev-lang/php-5.1.4-r6 needs to be re-installed with all of the following * USE flags enabled: * * pcre session unicode * * as well as any of the following USE flags enabled: * * mysql or mysqli if using dev-lang/php-5 * mysql if using dev-lang/php-4 *[snip]I checked /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc and see that unicode is listed, and the other flags ( pcre session mysql and mysqli ), what's causing this?Well use.desc is just a description of USE flags, not the flags thatyou actually have turned on.You should read: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=2But basically what you need to do is either:- update /etc/make.conf to add unicode to USE- add dev-lang/php unicode to /etc/portage/package.use I actuall recommend the first, as unicode seems to be one of thosethings that should be enabled globally.If you have further trouble with this, post the outputs of emerge--info and emerge -pv dev-lang/php. -Richard--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list-- ...to raise a signal means to turn the light on; ... Responding to a signal means turning the light off (and, under System V, hoping thebulb won't blow when it's next turned on)...--- Dan Bernstein
Re: [gentoo-user] How to mount a reiserfs partition with write permissions to all users?
2006/9/12, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 19:33:56 +0200, Boris Fersing wrote: reiserfs handles *nix permissions, just chmod 777 -R /your/mountpoint/ Don't use -R, that will alter permissions on every file in the filesystem. Isn't that exactly what he wants ? (something like umask=000) regards, Boris. -- Neil Bothwick ALZHEIMER.COM found . . . Out of . . . something . . -- Quiconque me parle de Dieu en veut à ma bourse ou à ma liberté. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to mount a reiserfs partition with write permissions to all users?
On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:47:51 +0200, Boris Fersing wrote: reiserfs handles *nix permissions, just chmod 777 -R /your/mountpoint/ Don't use -R, that will alter permissions on every file in the filesystem. Isn't that exactly what he wants ? (something like umask=000) I thought he wanted to make the filesystem writable to all users, not to mark every file on it executable. Changing the ownership of the mount point is all he needs do. -- Neil Bothwick Engineers do it with less resistance. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Gnome admin browsers, and more!
Hi, 1\ have you install sys-libs/pam. 2\ have you the flag pam inside the USE variable. Regards, Hervé Le mardi 12 septembre 2006 à 11:05 -0400, A. R. a écrit : Hi, I have finished a new Gentoo installation with Gnome as the desktop environment. It is working okay, except for a couple of issues: 1. The admin browsers (Services, Shares etc) do not work properly. When I try to open services-admin for example, as a normal user, the window comes up, all greyed out and nothing else happens! I am not a very experienced Gnome user, but I was expecting to be prompted for the root password. Something must be wrong with my configuration since running services-admin as root works! 2. The icon browser that pops up when attempting to put an icon on a custom app launcher does not browse anything other than /us/share/pixmaps. If I change to a different directory, I cannot select any of the icons in that directory! Has anybody experienced the same problems? I know that they are not very critical to the whole operation of the environment, but man, are they annoying? Thanks in advance for any help. - AR -- If you stare long enough into an abyss, the abyss will stare back into you... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: installing an amd k6
Daniel da Veiga danieldaveiga at gmail.com writes: So I tried a mininal x86 CD from 2005 with these options: gentoo-nofb acpi=off nox and all it booted to a root promt http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml Yes this is OK, but, I was hoping to find the corresponding version for 2005.0. Oh well, Thanks Daniel... James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Gnome admin browsers, and more!
Hi, 1\ have you install sys-libs/pam. 2\ have you the flag pam inside the USE variable. Hi, I have considered this, but I am hesitant because I remember reading something in this group about pam not playing nice with gentoo: something about permissions on devices. My system has been built with USE=-pam so I may give it a try. Am I wrongly concerned? Thank you, - AR -- If you stare long enough into an abyss, the abyss will stare back into you... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installing an amd k6
Yes this is OK, but, I was hoping to find the corresponding version for 2005.0. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2005.0/handbook-x86.xml HTH, Steve -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Purging Gnome from the system
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 13:02, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: Hi, I decided to purge Gnome from my system as I seldom run it. A quick look in the gnome ebuild shows that it's a ginormous -meta package, meaning I have some work ahead of me. First I updated USE and removed gnome, gstreamer and other gnome-related flags. I left gtk in for the likes of gimp which I do use. Then manually unmerged a ton of gnome packages, intending to finish up with 'emerge --depclean' and 'revdep-rebuild' to fix the mistakes I'd made. Imagine my surprise when remerging openoffice wants to pull in half of gnome again. I can understand it needs gtk, I do not understand why it wants evolution-data-server, gconf and gnome-panel. I know how to fix this, that's not my question. My question is why on earth does an office suite depend on half a desktop environment? And is there a (relatively) easy way to get my system back to the state it would be in if I had always had -gnome in USE all along? alan If this helps any, I have never had Gnome installed and have this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # equery list gnome [ Searching for package 'gnome' in all categories among: ] * installed packages [I--] [ ] dev-cpp/gnome-vfsmm-2.6.1 (1.1) [I--] [ ] dev-cpp/libgnomecanvasmm-2.6.1 (2.6) [I--] [ ] dev-cpp/libgnomemm-2.6.0 (2.6) [I--] [ ] dev-cpp/libgnomeuimm-2.6.0 (2.6) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/gnome-common-1.2.4-r4 (2) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/gnome-keyring-0.4.9 (0) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.4.2 (1) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/gnome-mime-data-2.4.2 (0) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/gnome-print-0.37 (0) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-1.0.5-r4 (1) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.14.2-r1 (2) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/libgnome-2.14.1 (0) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/libgnomecanvas-2.14.0 (0) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/libgnomeprint-2.12.1 (2.2) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/libgnomeprintui-2.12.1 (2.2) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.14.1 (0) [I--] [ ] net-print/libgnomecups-0.2.0 (0) [I--] [ ] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.14.2 (0) [I--] [ ] x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.14.2 (0) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # My USE line is this: USE=acl acpi alsa amd arts artswrappersuid automount browserplugin bzip2 cdr chroot crypt dbus doc dvd dvdr esd exif fdftk -firefox gaim gcj gif gimp gimpprint gkrellm -gnome gphoto2 gtk hal hbci ipv6 java javascript jbig jpeg jpeg2k justify kde mmx mp3 nsplugin ofx offensive opengl -oss postgres ppds qt3 qt4 samba scanner seamonkey sqlite sse syslog tcltk tiff tk truetype udev usb win32codecs wmf X xmms xml xprint yahoo 3dnow May be able to cheat a little and get rid of some more though. Dale :-) :-) With these USE flags in place I do not have gnome on my system: -eds -esd -gnome -gtk Proof: # equery l gnome [ Searching for package 'gnome' in all categories among: ] * installed packages # -- Regards, Mick pgpqKJorooIN0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: installing an amd k6
Daniel da Veiga danieldaveiga at gmail.com writes: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml Well this doc does not cover the 'k6' arch. Should I change make.conf #CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe to CFLAGS=-O2 -march=k6 -pipe Also, I was going to use these USE flags: USE= -* hardened pic ncurses ssl crypt berkdb tcpd pam perl python readline for the initail bootstap build. Note I used stage3-i686-2006.1.tar.bz2 and portage-latest.tar.bz2 Sound reasonable for a K6-200MHz machine that is only going to be used as a dns secondary server. James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Simplified apache2
Michael Crute wrote: USE=-* hardened pic ncurses ssl crypt berkdb tcpd pam perl python readline Even this is a bit more bloated than it needs to be. I have never used 'tcpd' or 'berkdb' on any system I run, and 'perl' and 'python' are *much* more useful (IMO) as local flags (in package.use) than as global ones. Even 'ssl' doesn't *have* to be there, especially in the global scope - 'www-client/links ssl' in package.use should be more than sufficient. One flag missing from that line that I like to have is 'bzip2' - tar just isn't quite the same without bz2 support. ;) Also, be careful using the hardened flag without running the hardened profile. The hardened profile masks out a couple of packages and flags that don't work so well on a hardened system. BTW, the flags with underscores in them (kernel_linux, userland_GNU, elibc_glibc, video_cards_radeon and such) are known as USE_EXPAND or expanded USE flags. VIDEO_CARDS and ALSA_CARDS are a couple you may be familiar with - when they're set in make.conf, emerge expands them automatically, so e.g. VIDEO_CARDS=radeon gets expanded to USE=video_cards_radeon. KERNEL, USERLAND, and ELIBC are there for the use of packages that work differently on different systems - Gentoo/FreeBSD, Gentoo/OSX, and such - and should *only* be set by your profile. Hope I've helped. :) Ryan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] borked gcc
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Salutations --
I seem to have munged something pretty spectacularly. A system that
updates itself every couple of weeks, using a current portage tree,
recently began emitting this error when running 'emerge -uD system':
!!! ERROR: sys-libs/glibc-2.4-r3 failed.
Call stack:
ebuild.sh, line 1562: Called dyn_setup
ebuild.sh, line 665: Called pkg_setup
glibc-2.4-r3.ebuild, line 1079: Called die
!!! please add USE='nptl nptlonly' to make.conf
Obediently, albeit with trepidation, I added nptl and nptlonly to my USE
flags and restarted the emerge. The immediate result was a complaint
that CHOST was incorrect, and that = i686 was required. Indeed, I
found that CHOST=i386-pc-linux-gnu, and corrected it to be
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu. I then re-ran the emerge, resulting in this:
configure: error:
*** These critical programs are missing or too old: gcc
*** Check the INSTALL file for required versions.
!!! ERROR: sys-libs/glibc-2.4-r3 failed.
Call stack:
ebuild.sh, line 1546: Called dyn_compile
ebuild.sh, line 937: Called src_compile
glibc-2.4-r3.ebuild, line 1179: Called toolchain-glibc_src_compile
glibc-2.4-r3.ebuild, line 251: Called glibc_do_configure 'nptl'
glibc-2.4-r3.ebuild, line 941: Called die
!!! failed to configure glibc
In a hamfisted attempt to resolve the problem, I decided to try 'emerge
- -e system', which begot the same error. In desperation, I tried to
re-bootstrap, and have now received this rude expletive:
make: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: Command not found
/var/tmp/portage/linux-headers-2.6.11-r5/work/linux-2.6.11/scripts/gcc-version.sh:
line 11: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: command not found
/var/tmp/portage/linux-headers-2.6.11-r5/work/linux-2.6.11/scripts/gcc-version.sh:
line 12: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: command not found
make: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: Command not found
make: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: Command not found
SPLIT include/linux/autoconf.h - include/config/*
make: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: Command not found
CC scripts/mod/empty.o
/bin/sh: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: command not found
make[2]: *** [scripts/mod/empty.o] Error 127
make[1]: *** [scripts/mod] Error 2
make: *** [scripts] Error 2
!!! ERROR: sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.11-r5 failed.
Call stack:
ebuild.sh, line 1546: Called dyn_compile
ebuild.sh, line 937: Called src_compile
ebuild.sh, line 1255: Called kernel-2_src_compile
kernel-2.eclass, line 1011: Called compile_headers
kernel-2.eclass, line 452: Called die
!!! prepare failed
Below is my make.conf:
CFLAGS=-Os -mcpu=i686 -pipe
CFLAGS=-march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
MAKEOPTS=-j2
USE='nptl nptlonly vorbis flac nsplugin X png alsa ldap ssl postgresql
mysql session -gnome -kde'
# portage locations
# machine-specific
PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp
# shared
PORTDIR=/data/install/linux/gentoo/portage
PKGDIR=/data/install/linux/gentoo/portage/packages
DISTDIR=/data/install/linux/gentoo/portage/distfiles
RPMDIR=/data/install/linux/gentoo/portage/rpm
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK='/etc/X11 /etc/init.d /etc/sound
/etc/mail/spamassassin /etc/udev /etc/rulesdujour /etc/gnome-vfs-2.0
/etc/scsi_id.config /etc/services /etc/vhosts /usr/share'
And:
# cat /etc/gentoo-release
Gentoo Base System version 1.12.4
If it is not yet apparent to anyone how I've got myself into this
pickle, please let me know what other information I can provide.
Cheers -d
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installing an amd k6
quoth the James: Note I used stage3-i686-2006.1.tar.bz2 and portage-latest.tar.bz2 Sound reasonable for a K6-200MHz machine that is only going to be used as a dns secondary server. Is the K6 a 686 though? I used to have an old K6 233 and seem to recall not being able to install Arch Linux on it because it was a 686 optimized distro... Is there a 586 tarball? James -d -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org ...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected... - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] borked gcc
On 9/12/06, David Talkington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Obediently, albeit with trepidation, I added nptl and nptlonly to my USE flags and restarted the emerge. The immediate result was a complaint that CHOST was incorrect, and that = i686 was required. Indeed, I found that CHOST=i386-pc-linux-gnu, and corrected it to be CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu. I then re-ran the emerge, resulting in this: Yeah, you cannot just simply change CHOST. It is a very fundamental system setting. You should search the archives of this list first. But specifically read: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/169677 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/169844 -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] borked gcc
On 9/12/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/169677 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/169844 Bah, 169844 is not the one I wanted to link to. I wanted this one: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/169894 -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Outputing 15.9kHz?
The guy there says it won't work because a computer outputs a non-interlaced signal and a standard TV uses interlaced. Basically, exactly what you said. From your link, it looks like an interlaced signal can be specifiec in xorg.conf which should solve that problem. Is that right? There might be some vga cards that can't output an interlaced signal. But most should do pretty well. And I'm relatively sure you can't break anything by trying it out. Take the modelines from the link I've given and just try it out. And I did not talk about the different synchronization behaviour (mentioned in the site I've linked, too), but that's probably what your adapter does. So I would just give it a try. I would do a hot plugin and not wait too long if there's no picture appearing. No guarantees, though, but at that signal levels it shouldn't hurt. People did that before... Ok I finally got this device today: http://mythic.tv/product_info.php?products_id=30 I'm using the modeline from this link: http://www.sput.nl/hardware/tv-x.html and my xorg.conf looks like this: Section Monitor Identifier monitor1 Modeline 736x485i 14.16 736 760 824 904 485 491 496 525 interlace -hsync -vsync EndSection Section Device Identifier device1 Driver i810 VideoRam 4096 EndSection Section Screen Identifier screen1 Device device1 Monitor monitor1 EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier layout1 Screen screen1 InputDevice mouse1 CorePointer InputDevice keyboard1 CoreKeyboard EndSection When I try to open an xfce4 desktop like this, the image is somewhat scrambled and constantly rolls on the TV. It looks normal on a monitor with the same settings. /var/log/Xorg.0.log reports this: (II) I810(0): monitor1: Using default hsync range of 28.00-33.00 kHz (II) I810(0): monitor1: Using default vrefresh range of 43.00-72.00 Hz (II) I810(0): Clock range: 9.50 to 163.00 MHz (II) I810(0): Not using mode 736x485i (unknown reason) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode 640x350 (hsync out of range) (II) I810(0): Not using default mode 320x175 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) It continues through a long list of Not using resolutions, and then: (--) I810(0): Virtual size is 640x480 (pitch 640) (**) I810(0): *Default mode 640x480: 25.2 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) I810(0): Modeline 640x480 25.20 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync I've tried the 640x480i modeline from the above link with the same results. What do you guys think? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Flashing the BIOS
How do you guys flash your BIOS to a new version? Are you all digging up floppy drives? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: borked gcc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard Fish wrote: On 9/12/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http: //article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/169677 http: //article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/169844 Bah, 169844 is not the one I wanted to link to. I wanted this one: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/169894 Thank you; my apologies for not finding that and saving your time (especially since the thread was mere days ago ... gack ...) I'll just rebuild the box; no biggie. Cheers -d - -- David Talkington PGP key: http://www.prairienet.org/~dtalk/004B8F8B.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFB2Sk5FKhdwBLj4sRAsZUAJ0TNwmmryoPz0IV+dabxPLezrV4GQCgo3c1 1K5A3UI3LQ0oBctiaS876y8= =myPp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Flashing the BIOS
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 03:23, Grant wrote: How do you guys flash your BIOS to a new version? Are you all digging up floppy drives? - Grant no I turn my swap-partition into a dos-partition, but all the bios stuff onto it, boot from a freedos cd and flash the bios/firmware. If I touch a floppy drive, it dies. And flashing with a freedos cd works very well. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: installing an amd k6
darren kirby bulliver at badcomputer.org writes:
Note I used stage3-i686-2006.1.tar.bz2
and portage-latest.tar.bz2
Is the K6 a 686 though? I used to have an old K6 233 and seem to recall not
being able to install Arch Linux on it because it was a 686 optimized
distro...
Is there a 586 tarball?
Hello Darren,
You must have ESP
After banging my head around this install for a while, I looked at
/etc/make.conf.examples:
snip
# Please note that if you experience strange issues with a package, it may be
# due to gcc's optimizations interacting in a strange way. Please test the
# package (and in some cases the libraries it uses) at default optimizations
# before reporting errors to developers.
#
# -mcpu=cpu-type means optimize code for the particular type of CPU without
# breaking compatibility with other CPUs. GCC 3.4 has deprecated support for
# -mcpu, so use -mtune instead if using this compiler.
#
# -march=cpu-type means to take full advantage of the ABI and instructions
# for the particular CPU; this will break compatibility with older CPUs (for
# example, -march=athlon-xp code will not run on a regular Athlon, and
# -march=i686 code will not run on a Pentium Classic.)
#
# CPU types supported in gcc-3.2 and higher: athlon-xp, athlon-mp,
# athlon-tbird, athlon, k6, k6-2, k6-3, i386, i486, i586 (Pentium), i686
# (PentiumPro), pentium, pentium-mmx, pentiumpro, pentium2 (Celeron),
# pentium3, and pentium4.
end/snip
So my next question, because googling produces nothing, is
which arch to use for the k6?
Are you suggesting I use this in my make.conf file?
CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i586 -pipe
CHOST=i586-pc-linux-gnu
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
I've got to find an i586 iso now.
Do you think 'stage1-x86-2006.1.tar.bz2' might work?
along with portage-latest.tar.bz2
I was hoping to use an iso with glibc2.4, gcc4.1 and make.profile 2006.1
I'm not sure whether I should use a stage 3 or stage 1 tarball?
Ideas?
James
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem on installing Gnome (gnome-light) (SOLVED with gnome-light running)
Hi Bo, Further to my late posting, I have Gnome-light up running with further 2 steps:- - ran revdep-rebuild - ran emerge gnome-light - update conf files - rebooted PC - login as user - gnome-light 2.14 started (a warning popup: The panel encountered a problem while loading OAFHD:GBOME_Miexer Applet Delete) Deleted the file Checking /var/log/messages, found following problems 1) Sep 8 11:20:08 localhost dhcpcd[4191]: timed out waiting for a valid DHCP $$ service net.eth0 Sep 8 11:20:08 localhost rc-scripts: netmount was not started. 2) Sep 8 11:33:44 localhost dhcpcd[4135]: timed out waiting for a valid DHCP $ I don't need netmount. Dynamic IP is provided on connecting broadband. This is only a test on building Gentoo and Gnome-light. After test finished, I'll emerge Gnome to replace Gnome-light. Tks. B.R. SL -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] changing CHOST
quoth the Richard Fish: BTW, Darren's answer on this thread seems incorrect to me. Changing CHOST is a pretty significant thing to tweak, certainly as significant as changing gcc versions, and you really should re-merge *everything* to make sure your something doesn't wind up broken. Hi Richard, sorry I just noticed this (due to your help in a more recent thread where you linked to this). Anyway, my reasoning for my answer was that (although he didn't explicitly state it) Tim wanted to upgrade from i386 to i686 presumably. A binary built for a 386 is still able to run on a 686 system. The cpu instructions are forward (but not backward) compatible. Thus, I did not think it necessary for a wholesale rebuild of the entire system on the spot. Indeed it seems this is not as simple as I thought. I may have been thinking changing CHOST was as simple as changing -march or -mcpu... I still stand by my assertion that the speed increase will be trivial ;) -d -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org ...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected... - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Compile failure: libdv-102
Hi, there are a few package, which do not compile after I did the step to gcc-4.1.1. The third of those packages is: libdv-0.102 With -j3 set the output is: if /bin/sh ../libtool --silent --mode=compile i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -g -O2 -Wall -MT YUY2.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/YUY2.Tpo \ -c -o YUY2.lo `test -f 'YUY2.c' || echo './'`YUY2.c; \ then mv -f .deps/YUY2.Tpo .deps/YUY2.Plo; \ else rm -f .deps/YUY2.Tpo; exit 1; \ fi /home/mccramer/data/portagetmp/portage/libdv-0.102/temp/cc5b1z2V.s: Assembler messages: /home/mccramer/data/portagetmp/portage/libdv-0.102/temp/cc5b1z2V.s:1464: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `paddb' /home/mccramer/data/portagetmp/portage/libdv-0.102/temp/cc5b1z2V.s:1479: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `paddb' /home/mccramer/data/portagetmp/portage/libdv-0.102/temp/cc5b1z2V.s:1509: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `paddb' /home/mccramer/data/portagetmp/portage/libdv-0.102/temp/cc5b1z2V.s:1524: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `paddb' /home/mccramer/data/portagetmp/portage/libdv-0.102/temp/cc5b1z2V.s:1794: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `paddb' /home/mccramer/data/portagetmp/portage/libdv-0.102/temp/cc5b1z2V.s:1817: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `paddb' /home/mccramer/data/portagetmp/portage/libdv-0.102/temp/cc5b1z2V.s:1844: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `paddb' /home/mccramer/data/portagetmp/portage/libdv-0.102/temp/cc5b1z2V.s:1867: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `paddb' /home/mccramer/data/portagetmp/portage/libdv-0.102/temp/cc5b1z2V.s:2373: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `paddb' /home/mccramer/data/portagetmp/portage/libdv-0.102/temp/cc5b1z2V.s:2388: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `paddb' /home/mccramer/data/portagetmp/portage/libdv-0.102/temp/cc5b1z2V.s:2418: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `paddb' /home/mccramer/data/portagetmp/portage/libdv-0.102/temp/cc5b1z2V.s:2433: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `paddb' make[3]: *** [YUY2.lo] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/mccramer/data/portagetmp/portage/libdv-0.102/work/libdv-0.102/libdv' make[2]: *** [all] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/mccramer/data/portagetmp/portage/libdv-0.102/work/libdv-0.102/libdv' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mccramer/data/portagetmp/portage/libdv-0.102/work/libdv-0.102' make: *** [all] Error 2 !!! ERROR: media-libs/libdv-0.102 failed. Call stack: ebuild.sh, line 1546: Called dyn_compile ebuild.sh, line 937: Called src_compile libdv-0.102.ebuild, line 39: Called die !!! compile problem !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant. Without -j3 set the symptoms are the same. If there are more infos needed to trace down the problem, please email me. Kind regards, mcc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Compile failure: xfractint 20.4.00
Hi, there are a few package, which do not compile after I did the step to gcc-4.1.1. The sixth of those packages is: xfractint-20.4.00 With -j3 set the output is: Source unpacked. Compiling source in /home/mccramer/data/portagetmp/portage/xfractint-20.4.00/work/xfractint-20.04p00 ... gcc -march=athlon64 -O2 -mtune=i686 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -msse3 -I. -DXFRACT -DNOBSTRING -g -DBIG_ANSI_C -DLINUX -Os -fno-builtin -c -o hc.o hc.c gcc -march=athlon64 -O2 -mtune=i686 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -msse3 -I. -DXFRACT -DNOBSTRING -g -DBIG_ANSI_C -DLINUX -Os -fno-builtin -DSRCDIR=\.\ -c unix.c gcc -o hc -march=athlon64 -O2 -mtune=i686 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -msse3 -I. -DXFRACT -DNOBSTRING -g -DBIG_ANSI_C -DLINUX -Os -fno-builtin hc.o unix.o ./hc /c make: *** [fractint.hlp] Segmentation fault Source compiled. Test phase [not enabled]: x11-misc/xfractint-20.4.00 Install xfractint-20.4.00 into /home/mccramer/data/portagetmp/portage/xfractint-20.4.00/image/ category x11-misc ./hc /c make: *** [fractint.hlp] Segmentation fault !!! ERROR: x11-misc/xfractint-20.4.00 failed. Call stack: ebuild.sh, line 1546: Called dyn_install ebuild.sh, line 1020: Called src_install xfractint-20.4.00.ebuild, line 49: Called die !!! (no error message) !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant. Without -j3 set the symptoms are the same. If there are more infos needed to trace down the problem, please email me. Kind regards, mcc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Compile failures: my system
Hi, to not include my system specifications in any of the compile failure mails I will summarize it in separate mail: RAM: 1GB 40GB hd space to be used by all compilations processes by gentoo CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ (not overclocked) gentoo updated daily and regulary An emerge -e system and emerge -e world after switch to gcc-4.1.1 was done recently. Used profile is /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.1/desktop Due to the mass of package which do compile without any problems all taska described above were successfully done. One last package to be checked for compilation is openoffice. This will be done in the afternoon. Report will follow. Kind regards, mcc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Compile failure: fox-1.2.6-r3
On 9/12/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, there are a few package, which do not compile after I did the step to gcc-4.1.1. The first of those packages is fox-1.2.6-r3. There are a number of packages that require the ~arch version to build with gcc-4.1. Most of these are listed on [1]. Searching that for fox yeilds [2] which yeilds [3]. So basically, you need to: echo ~x11-libs/fox-1.2.18 ~x86 /etc/portage/package.keywords Replace ~x86 with ~amd64 if you are on the amd64 arch. -Richard [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=140707 [2] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128917 [3] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145046 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Flashing the BIOS
Most BIOS programs save the existing BIOS so they need somewhere to write to. On Tuesday September 12 2006 22:52, Grant wrote: How do you guys flash your BIOS to a new version? Are you all digging up floppy drives? - Grant no I turn my swap-partition into a dos-partition, but all the bios stuff onto it, boot from a freedos cd and flash the bios/firmware. If I touch a floppy drive, it dies. And flashing with a freedos cd works very well. Would it work to burn a bootable CD with the BIOS files on it and flash that way? If anyone could get me specific information on this I'd really appreciate it. My motherboard needs the latest BIOS to run my new Tualatin Celeron processor, and I know if I screw up the BIOS I screw up the system. - Grant -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Purging Gnome from the system
Mick wrote: On Tuesday 12 September 2006 13:02, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: Hi, I decided to purge Gnome from my system as I seldom run it. A quick look in the gnome ebuild shows that it's a ginormous -meta package, meaning I have some work ahead of me. First I updated USE and removed gnome, gstreamer and other gnome-related flags. I left gtk in for the likes of gimp which I do use. Then manually unmerged a ton of gnome packages, intending to finish up with 'emerge --depclean' and 'revdep-rebuild' to fix the mistakes I'd made. Imagine my surprise when remerging openoffice wants to pull in half of gnome again. I can understand it needs gtk, I do not understand why it wants evolution-data-server, gconf and gnome-panel. I know how to fix this, that's not my question. My question is why on earth does an office suite depend on half a desktop environment? And is there a (relatively) easy way to get my system back to the state it would be in if I had always had -gnome in USE all along? alan If this helps any, I have never had Gnome installed and have this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # equery list gnome [ Searching for package 'gnome' in all categories among: ] * installed packages [I--] [ ] dev-cpp/gnome-vfsmm-2.6.1 (1.1) [I--] [ ] dev-cpp/libgnomecanvasmm-2.6.1 (2.6) [I--] [ ] dev-cpp/libgnomemm-2.6.0 (2.6) [I--] [ ] dev-cpp/libgnomeuimm-2.6.0 (2.6) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/gnome-common-1.2.4-r4 (2) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/gnome-keyring-0.4.9 (0) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.4.2 (1) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/gnome-mime-data-2.4.2 (0) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/gnome-print-0.37 (0) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-1.0.5-r4 (1) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.14.2-r1 (2) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/libgnome-2.14.1 (0) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/libgnomecanvas-2.14.0 (0) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/libgnomeprint-2.12.1 (2.2) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/libgnomeprintui-2.12.1 (2.2) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.14.1 (0) [I--] [ ] net-print/libgnomecups-0.2.0 (0) [I--] [ ] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.14.2 (0) [I--] [ ] x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.14.2 (0) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # My USE line is this: USE=acl acpi alsa amd arts artswrappersuid automount browserplugin bzip2 cdr chroot crypt dbus doc dvd dvdr esd exif fdftk -firefox gaim gcj gif gimp gimpprint gkrellm -gnome gphoto2 gtk hal hbci ipv6 java javascript jbig jpeg jpeg2k justify kde mmx mp3 nsplugin ofx offensive opengl -oss postgres ppds qt3 qt4 samba scanner seamonkey sqlite sse syslog tcltk tiff tk truetype udev usb win32codecs wmf X xmms xml xprint yahoo 3dnow May be able to cheat a little and get rid of some more though. Dale :-) :-) With these USE flags in place I do not have gnome on my system: -eds -esd -gnome -gtk Proof: # equery l gnome [ Searching for package 'gnome' in all categories among: ] * installed packages # Cool. I need to mark this one important so I can find it again. Do you notice anything missing like in OOo, Mozilla/Seamonkey or anything like that?? Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
