[LegacyUG] Basic versus Sourcewriter Source Entry

2009-03-09 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
I have been a user of the Basic version of source entry and had built
my own templates over time I'm comfortable using.  Yesteday I thought
I'd play around some with the Sourcewriter entry process on my 'Test'
database.  Today I'm working on my 'Main' database and went to add a
new source.  The Sourcewriter window opened.  I can't find a way to
get back to the Basic window option.  What am I missing?
Thanks for your help.
Gary
Illinois USA



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[LegacyUG] Images---Source and Event

2009-02-22 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson- Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
I am having second thoughts pertaining to my event and source
methodology.  I enter an event, then attach my source evidence to the
event---included with the source evidence is an image of the source
(census page, birth record, death record, etc).

I'm beginning to wonder if I should also attach the same source image
to the event itself. I would then have the image attached to both the
source and the event to which the source applies.

Value in this?  Shortcomings?  Certainly there is an extra step
involved, but perhaps I'm not seeing far enough down stream where
having the image attached to both the source and the event would be
useful.

I'm curious how other Legacy users work this.
Thanks
Gary
O'Fallon IL USA



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Re: [LegacyUG] Wide Monitor vs. Old (4:3) Monitor

2009-02-21 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson- Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
I use a laptop and desktop simultaneously.  Very useful.

At the risk of straying too far from Legacy topics, do the users of
two desktop screens use only 1 keyboard?  Presumably so.   I'm not
clear how one sets up the computer to accomodate one keyboard and two
screens.  Or, how Legacy is seen on both screens at the same time.
I'm supposing it's different than simply using the split screen view
option Legacy offers.

I'd welcome anyone contacting me off LUG to share their expertise
about simultaneous dual screen use (family.na...@gmail.com).
Thanks
Gary
O'Fallon IL USA



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Re: [LegacyUG] Puzzled----Master Location List and Virtual Earth

2009-02-12 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson- Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Ron
Thanks for your prompt and reliable as always reply.  I just now
checked the boxes "Show People" and "Show Map" on the Master Location
Screen and the desktop and laptop screens are now identical.

If others aren't aware of this feature, avail yourself of it---it's a
worthy addition.

Thanks again, Ron.
Gary

On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 7:40 AM, ronald ferguson  wrote:
> Gary,
> Have you switched the map on? Bottom, right; "Show Map".
> Ron Ferguson
> 
>> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:24:49 -0600
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] PuzzledMaster Location List and Virtual Earth
>> From: family.na...@gmail.com
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>>
>> I work from both a desktop and laptop. As it applies to genealogy I
>> try to keep the two operating identically when I can.
>>
>> When opening the Master Location List on my desktop [View->Master
>> Lists->Location] it opens with the Microsoft Virutal Earth view
>> ("Location" and "People using this location" lists at the top of the
>> screen, map at the bottom of the screen).
>>
>> When opening the Master Location List on my laptop it opens with the
>> standard Legacy view, just a list of locations.
>>
>> The Microsoft VIrtual Earth view on my desktop is very nice, I'd love
>> to have the same view on the laptop; but I don't recall configuring my
>> desktop to accept the Virtual Earth view. Am I missing something in
>> the Legacy configuration that is preventing the laptop from presenting
>> the same Virtual Earth view as on the desktop? It's puzzling.
>>
>> Both systems have the latest build, 7.0.0.86.
>>
>> Thanks for any advice you're willing to share.
>> Gary



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[LegacyUG] Puzzled----Master Location List and Virtual Earth

2009-02-12 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson- Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
I work from both a desktop and laptop.  As it applies to genealogy I
try to keep the two operating identically when I can.

When opening the Master Location List on my desktop [View->Master
Lists->Location] it opens with the Microsoft Virutal Earth view
("Location" and "People using this location" lists at the top of the
screen, map at the bottom of the screen).

When opening the Master Location List on my laptop it opens with the
standard Legacy view, just a list of locations.

The Microsoft VIrtual Earth view on my desktop is very nice, I'd love
to have the same view on the laptop; but I don't recall configuring my
desktop to accept the Virtual Earth view.  Am I missing something in
the Legacy configuration that is preventing the laptop from presenting
the same Virtual Earth view as on the desktop?   It's puzzling.

Both systems have the latest build, 7.0.0.86.

Thanks for any advice you're willing to share.
Gary



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[LegacyUG] Use of Picture Center to rename picture files

2009-01-29 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson- Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
The reply below sparked interest with me.  I thought I exhausted all
features of the Picture Center (limited as they are).  I didn't
realize one could use the Picture Center to rename picture files; I
could use this feature from time to time.  Excuse my asking if the
feature is obvious and I'm merely overlooking it, but where in the
Picture Center do you access this feature?  Perhaps others would
welcome the advice also.
Thanks
Gary

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On
Behalf Of Bruce Jones
Sent: Tuesday, 27 January, 2009 10:22 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Limits in a BOOK fixed now organize
ideas and HTML
When you rename a picture, do it in the Picture Center within Legacy
and you don't need to reattach it.  If you rename outside of Legacy
(in Windows) you will have to reattach the picture.
A naming standard is very helpful in organizing your pictures.  How do
you file your papers? I recommend using the same system for your
pictures.  I use the MRIN system for all my filing, so I start each
picture name with that family's MRIN.
It doesn't matter where you store your pictures, but have a plan and
stick to it.  I use multiple folders under Legacy/Pictures.
As I don't yet use the Publication Center or put things on the
Internet, I'll leave the other questions to someone else.



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[LegacyUG] Marriage Events on Individual Report

2009-01-04 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson- Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
With the onset of V7, has anyone yet found a way to include Marriage
Events on an Individual Report?  I see the Individual Report on its
"Include" tab has an option to include Marriage Events but it is
grayed out thus making it an item that can not be selected.  Has
anyone discovered when or how this item becomes active for checking?

It was thought this issue would become a V7 update since many Legacy
users choose to put joint activities such as joint home ownership,
joint addresses, joint property ownership, joint travel, etc, under
marriage events.  If these events do not appear on an Individal
Report, unexplained gaps of information exist.

Of course the work around being used was to double or triple the same
entry, once as a husband event, again as a wife event, and then again
at times as an event on the marriage screen.  This seems terribly
redundant given the sophistication of today's computer capability.

Pehaps this issue has been remedied with the latest update and I've
overlooked the means to make it work.  In that case I welcome guidance
on how to get there from here.
Thanks
Gary



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[LegacyUG] Legacy Charting Companion--PDF Exchange Driver

2008-02-01 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson-Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Just got a new laptop loaded with Vista.  Installed Legacy Charting 
Companion (v 1.1.2).  Tried viewing a chart before printing.  Got error 
notice: "Could not find PDF-Exchange Driver"


I have a Adobe Professional 7.0 loadedone would think I had all the 
horsepower needed.


Any suggestions?
Thanks
Gary
near St Louis MO USA 






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RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcing marriage status -- not possible??

2008-01-25 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Don
Many are hopeful---me certainly included---the Legacy folks fixed this
shortcoming in their upcoming revision.
Gary 
 
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Cook
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 3:16 PM
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> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing marriage status -- not possible??
> 
> The flaw I have found in adding marriage events, is that I see no way to
> have them included on the "Individual Report". To me, it seems like the
> divorce, or whatever that happens in the marriage, happens to the couple
> collectively and individually but Millennia doesn't see it that way.
> 
> Certainly not a biggy but be aware!
> 
> Don




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RE: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS

2008-01-23 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
A numbering system by document has been addressed several times in the past.
A key word search on 'file system' or 'organizing files' should bring up a
number of comments.  Suffice to say, visit a library in your local
city/town---the cataloging/numbering system by document (item) has been in
place for a couple hundred+ years.
Gary 

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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JLB
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:58 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS
> 
> We use the MRIN Filing System because we LOVE it.  It takes about 5
> seconds to print a report from the marriage list showing all names and
> MRIN's in whatever order you'd like.  Granted, having to re-insert them
> into a database gone awry could be a real pain.  I guess we trust Legacy
> to not bring us to that point.  Exporting and importing your database
> into other software 'should' keep your numbering intact.  Having said
> all that, perhaps you could enlighten us about what a 'document
> numbered' system is?
> 
> JL




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RE: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS

2008-01-23 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Hear. Hear.  I would never consider a filing system other than document
(item) numbered.  Any other way is fraught with problems and extra work.  I
am surprised by the number of people who follow an MRIN filing system.
Perhaps because an expert genealogist suggested itbut not an expert
librarian.
Gary 

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Stovold
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS

Just want to say that I personally would never use a filing system that uses
MRIN's or RIN's as the basis.
 
The reason?   Several years ago, I did (MRINs) - and then something
happened, and all my MRINs got changed.   Fortunately, I had on all my file
folders the Surname, Firstname, so was able to rearrange them.
 
And even though Legacy is fantastic software, From having done computer
genealogy for 20 years now, I realize that the likelyhood is that at some
point, there may be a reason that I will need or decide to change software -
and my MRIN's and RIN's could get "messed up" then.   
 
As I also got sick of duplicates being required for more than one family, I
now use a document numbered system.  Has advantages, and of course some
disadvantages too.





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RE: [LegacyUG] Event--[WifeSurname] versus [WifeMarriedSurname]

2008-01-21 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Susan
Thank you for your comments.  Your supposition may be accurate. 

Your comments reminded me of festering issue.  I am an advocate of placing
the residence of a married couple as an Event under Marriage Information.
Regrettably no Marriage Information Events appear on Individual Reports.  I
don't understand the logic of this.

It makes sense to record one address of a couple in one location (as an
Event under Marriage Information) than the same address in two separate
locations (as an Event under each individual).

When running Individual Reports, it would still be appropriate to have the
joint marriage events appear on the Individual Reports for both individuals.
Not doing so gives a very inaccurate chronological report of significant
life events on the Individual Reports.
 
Soin response to your question, no, the event was not created in
Marriage Events.  I do very little placing of events there because of
Legacy's limitation of not having the information appear on Individual
Reports. 
Gary 

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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Daily
> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 6:00 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event--[WifeSurname] versus [WifeMarriedSurname]
> 
> Gary - I didn't follow the whole thread, so I'm sorry if this was asked.
> 
> Was the event created in Marriage Events or Individual Events? I would
> think it cannot work in Individual Events because the program would
> not know which marriage to take the surname from. At least a Marriage
> Event would show which spouse.
> 
> Susan




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RE: [LegacyUG] Event--[WifeSurname] versus [WifeMarriedSurname]

2008-01-21 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
That all being said---

I don't want to stray too far from the context of the original email
plea

Why doesn't the function work?

Perhaps the Legacy staff can shed some light.
Thanks again
Gary

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> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 12:48 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Event--[WifeSurname] versus [WifeMarriedSurname]
> 
> If you follow the standard formats used by NEHGS or NGSQ, the maiden name
> should appear between the given names and the married surname, enclosed in
> parentheses, although the word "née" may or may not be required.
> 
> I have seen it the way you indicate because people entered the married
> surname as the woman's surname, then entered the maiden name, i.e. "(née
> SIMONSON)" into the suffix field. Most genealogy programs don't have
> separate fields for maiden name and married name, and are set up to have
the
> maiden surname entered into the surname field. Legacy, while it only has a
> single name, does allow us to set up the child sentence for reports to
> include the maiden name and the married name. (You can also do this for
> other sentences, but it is less effective and more difficult to predict
> results than in the child sentence template.)
> 
> If a woman had been married several times, the arrangement would be
> 
> Irene (née SIMONSON) (DOE) (SMITH) ANDREWS
> 
> Where Doe would have been her first married surname, Smith her second, and
> Andrews is her last married surname. However, Legacy doesn't have a way to
> handle this. The best we can do is create a child sentence with her maiden
> name and her husband's surname.
> 
> While I wrote the above section on multiple married names, I'm not sure
how
> Legacy would handle that circumstance with the [WifeMarriedSurname]
> variable. I would expect it would be the married surname in context of the
> sentence.
> 
> Bill
> 
> William H. "Bill" Bienia, PLCGS
> Cobblestone Legacies
> Genealogy and Family History Services
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[LegacyUG] Event--[WifeSurname] versus [WifeMarriedSurname]

2008-01-20 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
A quick scan of the archives did not reveal an answer to this issue---

I don't understand the difference between [WifeSurname] and
[WifeMarriedSurname] when creating an Event Definition.  It appears both
result in the same outcome.

Irene SIMONSON married Seth ANDERSON.  I would expect Irene's [WifeSurname]
to be SIMONSON.  I would expect Irene's [WifeMarriedSurname] to be ANDERSON.

This does not occur when creating an Event Definition.  If [FirstName]
[WifeSurname] [WifeMarriedSurname] is defined, the result is Irene SIMONSON
SIMONSON.

Why would it not be Irene SIMONSON ANDERSON?

Has anyone else experienced this problem?
Gary
O'Fallon IL USA




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RE: [LegacyUG] Children in Family View

2008-01-08 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Ah-hathat's it of course!  Thanks Ron.  I need to clear the cobwebs, my
absence from the program for several months is showing.
Gary
O'Fallon IL USA

> -Original Message-
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 5:58 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Children in Family View
> 
> Gary,
> Obviously because of the 1/2, the child is either step or adopted. To show
which mother
> Legacy shows the first name of the child's mother
> Ron Ferguson
> _
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> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> _
> 
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> > Subject: [LegacyUG] Children in Family View
> > Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 05:43:25 -0600
> >
> > I see the following statement on the Family view screen for one of the
> > children listed: ½ Lillian Danielson [1631] (Circa 1913-) (Laura). I
don't
> > understand (or remember) how the "(Laura)" reference came to be. Can
anyone
> > shed light on where a reference in this manner/in this position might
come
> > from?
> > Thanks,
> > Gary
> > O'Fallon IL




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[LegacyUG] Children in Family View

2008-01-08 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
I see the following statement on the Family view screen for one of the
children listed: ½ Lillian Danielson [1631] (Circa 1913-) (Laura).  I don't
understand (or remember) how the "(Laura)" reference came to be.  Can anyone
shed light on where a reference in this manner/in this position might come
from?
Thanks,
Gary
O'Fallon IL




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RE: [LegacyUG] photo database - off topic

2007-11-30 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Mary Beth
You bring up a very good point about Legacy's photo album limitations.

Unlike some others who have responded recently to photo questions, I fully
support entering ALL photos you have into Legacy.  This would include all
the info you have about each photo: names, date, place, etc.  It is a good
way to connect your photos to the people they represent and have that info
all in one place.

The downside of all that data entry is the data output.  There is no format
I'm aware of at this time within Legacy to display each photo with all its
relevant information (caption, date, description, file ID, RIN, etc).  The
Scrapbook does not do this.  I'm being patiently optimistic something will
be developed.   It does not seem to be a monumental task to developit
just isn't high enough yet in the priority pecking order.

As a holding pattern option, you might consider tapping into the Access
database and creating an Access report to present the photos and data info
you've entered in Legacy.  If I could help you with that I wouldI'm not
Access literate enough to do thatbut I do know it's doable.  If anyone
is capable, or has already done such, I'd greatly appreciate having your
report format.

Good luck.
Gary

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> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] photo database - off topic
> 
> Does anyone know of inexpensive software where you can
> put a copy of a photo and information about the date,
> place, people in the photo, where the photo came from,
> etc?  Something like a database.  I just started using
> the photos section in Legacy and it is near what I
> want except it can't be used separately.  I would like
> to be able to search a database for Grandmother and
> find pictures of her as a child.  Or the twins and the
> chocolate pudding.  Or list all those from Larry's
> photo album.  The Legacy picture center is close but I
> would like something freestanding.  Most programs I've
> looked at only let you do captions.  Not the detail I
> want.
> 
> I started a database in an old version of Alpha Five
> but couldn't figure out how to link/import photos.
> Mary Beth




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RE: [LegacyUG] Terminology

2007-08-21 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Siblings'-children.  :)  Sorry, couldn't resist.
Gary

-- 
Gary
Near St Louis MO, USA
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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Terminology

In the same way that siblings covers both brothers and sisters, is there a
term that includes all nieces and nephews?



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RE: [LegacyUG] Marriage Events

2007-06-06 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Jan
You may have noted from the Archives messages related to this subject
comments regarding Marriage Events/Facts not appearing on Individual
Reports.  This, I believe, is a serious enough shortcoming of Legacy to
require correcting in the next revision.  

For those of us who prefer entering Events/Facts of married couples on the
Marriage Information screen, events such as joint addresses, ownership of
joint property, joint pet ownership, joint travel information, etc., these
Events/Facts will not appear on Individual Reports.  This can present
confusing gaps of missing data when using these Individual Reports.

A suggestion has been submitted to provide report options to include
Marriage Information Events/Facts on Individual Reports.  

Until this is done, you must either make duplicate entries on the Individual
Information screens, one for each individual of the marriage, thus doubling
your entry time and leading to several page FGR reports; or make double
entries, one on the Marriage Information screen and one on the Individual
Information screens.  Far from ideal in either instance.
Gary

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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jan Stitz
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:16 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage Events
> 
> Mike, Jenny, Ron, and Susan,
> 
> Thank you for your suggestions that you sent on my question.  I had been
> trying different things (like Mike's sandbox idea) using the Preview under
> the Descendant Narrative Report.  I have the basic Legacy program but will
> later buy the Deluxe version and I wondered if not putting the marriage in
> the Events/Facts on the Indivdual's page would cause a problem for me in
the
> future in other reports.
> 
> Thank you again.
> 
> Jan
> 
> >>I have been entering names of people on the Individual's Information
Page
> >>and have been entering their marriages in the Events/Facts part of the
> >>page. Also, I have been entering this information when the marriage
> >>information page appears under Events/Facts.  I was looking at the
Preview
> >>under Descendant Narrative Book Report and for a couple, I have this
> >>information coming up 3 times - as "noted event in her life" and "noted
> >>event in his life" as well as "noted event in their marriage.  I would
> >>only like it to come up under "noted event in their marriage". If I
don't
> >>enter the marriage under Events/Facts on the Individual's Information
Page
> >>will that be a problem for me in any of the other Reports?



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RE: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events

2007-04-16 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Russ
We're not talking about current residence here.  We're talking about an
historical account of residences throughout one's life.
Gary
 

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R G Strong Genealogy
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 7:57 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events
> 
> Be advised that the address house icon on the marriage event screen was
> designed to be used to record the address where the marriage took place
not
> the peoples address.
> 
> You should still use the address Icon on the individual's screen. If you
put
> their current address in each individual's screen then when you do an
> address list report you should check the option to not print duplicate
> address.
> 
> To show address of couple in the marriage event screen one would use the
> "Residence" event definition instead.
> 
> Russ
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 6:00 AM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events
> 
> 
> Bruce
> ..
> An address event is a classic example.  If entered under the marriage
event
> screen as many do, the address will not appear on the individual screen
(nor
> on the individual report).  As Bruce implied, not having Event information
> available in the marriage and individual areas results in a misunderstood
> sequence of Events in a person's life.
> ..
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:LegacyUserGroup-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson
> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 5:51 AM
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events
> >
> >
> > Bruce,
> >
> > I have always considered Occupation as an Individual Event and not a
> > Marriage Event.
> >
> > The reason for this is quite simple. Whilst my marriage addresses were
> > always in the Manchester area UK my places of work have been all over
> Europe
> > and totally unrelated. For much of my working life my office was in
> London.
> > I have seen this with my ancestors who at census time were staying in
> hotels
> > miles away from their families.
> >
> > Ron Ferguson
> >
> >
> > >From: "Bruce Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> > >To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> > >Subject: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events
> > >Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:25:27 -0700
> > >
> > >I am puzzled as to where to put my father's employment events.
> > >
> > >I have up to now put Residence Events with the individual until
> > >married and then put all following Residence Events with the marriage.
> > >
> > >Now when I started putting my father's Employment Events (some before
> > >marriage, others after), I put all of them as individual events.  Then
> > >I realized that any Employment Events that occurred after his marriage
> > >would not match where he lived at that time.  The Residence Events
> > >after marriage would be under the marriage section of the Family Group
> > >Sheet and would not appear at all in the Individual Report.
> > >
> > >How do others decide whether to use Individual or Marriage Events for
> > >Resident & Employment (and other) Events?
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >Bruce Jones
> 
> 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events

2007-04-16 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Bruce
I'm glad this issue has resurfaced again.  It was discussed briefly back in
February (under a 'marriage events' subject), but I don't believe much was
concluded.

Whether dealing with occupation information or some other Event, a method
should be established on each Event entry screen, for instance a box to
check as for "Private", that would enable each Event entered to appear both
in the marriage view and the individual view, and then also appear on
reports (FGR and Individual).

Now, I realize the downside to this is the appearance of identical
information on the FRG report under individual and marriage event areas.
This could be remedied by permitting a suppression option under Report
Options if one preferred to keep the information from appearing in both
areas.

An address event is a classic example.  If entered under the marriage event
screen as many do, the address will not appear on the individual screen (nor
on the individual report).  As Bruce implied, not having Event information
available in the marriage and individual areas results in a misunderstood
sequence of Events in a person's life.

The current workaround for this is to enter the same information twice, once
on the marriage event screen and once on the individual event screen; or,
don't make such entries under Marriage Events.  I don't believe either is
necessary given computer technology.

Interested to hear the positions of others on this.

Gary   

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 5:51 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events
> 
> 
> Bruce,
> 
> I have always considered Occupation as an Individual Event and not a
> Marriage Event.
> 
> The reason for this is quite simple. Whilst my marriage addresses were
> always in the Manchester area UK my places of work have been all over
Europe
> and totally unrelated. For much of my working life my office was in
London.
> I have seen this with my ancestors who at census time were staying in
hotels
> miles away from their families.
> 
> Ron Ferguson
> 
> 
> >From: "Bruce Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> >To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> >Subject: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events
> >Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:25:27 -0700
> >
> >I am puzzled as to where to put my father's employment events.
> >
> >I have up to now put Residence Events with the individual until
> >married and then put all following Residence Events with the marriage.
> >
> >Now when I started putting my father's Employment Events (some before
> >marriage, others after), I put all of them as individual events.  Then
> >I realized that any Employment Events that occurred after his marriage
> >would not match where he lived at that time.  The Residence Events
> >after marriage would be under the marriage section of the Family Group
> >Sheet and would not appear at all in the Individual Report.
> >
> >How do others decide whether to use Individual or Marriage Events for
> >Resident & Employment (and other) Events?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Bruce Jones



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RE: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing

2007-04-15 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
A filing (or catalog) system, which includes the process of numbering
originals and digitial images, is just that---a "filing system".  It is
intended to catalog items for easy/effiicient retrieval.  It is not a
genealogy system to identify relationships---Legacy performs that mission
quite well.  Expecting more from your file numbering system than where an
item is located is fraught with unwieldy complications.

A simple acid test when considering file numbering systems is the number of
copies needed of an original.  If more than one copy of an original is
needed, the system should be rethought.  Any numbering system which contains
a name or is associated to an individual, by its nature will require
multiple copies when more than one person appears or is mentioned.   When
multiple copies begin appearing, your filing system has become inefficient
and will eventually become ineffective.
Gary

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loran
Braught
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 6:38 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Cc: Loran AAVBRAUGHT
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing

As mentioned previously, I file almost everything using a basic Ahnentafel
numbering system (not maps; they are by state/county, and not census; they
are by year/state/county). The main advantages are filing by ancestry
(starting with #1 and working back each generation) rather than descendancy;
plus easily identifying people by their generation relationship. Ancestral
 recording generations from present back any ancestors is the logical order
of researching.  All descendancy systems depend upon selecting one ancestor
and start from that person recording to present . Another advantage is
seeing everyone as related to others of each generation (RIN/MRIN offer
no display of relationships) and depend entirely upon computer searching
(randomly scrambled in a file cabinet).
 
Even correspondence files can be stored or/and recorded by Ahnentafel; then
sub-filed alphabetically by the name of the correspondence for that
Ahnentafel number. 
 
The disadvantages are seeing some descendants with long ID numbers (but
they still show relationship) and having to individually assigning the
correct (User ID in Legacy) Ahnentafel ID numbers. Maybe some day some
genealogy program will consider accommodating that entire numbering system
to match the standard Ahnentafel numbers from every pedigree chart). 
 
In regard to  Photos; just organize the photo album by Ahnentafel
numbers. In the case of group photos I cross reference everyone in the photo
to the eldest known direct line ancestor in that photo (of course this means
that different surname albums are created).  
 
As for documents, the Ahnentafel numbers work just great, although I
separate notebooks of vitals from other documents and subdivide other
documents into major categories such as military, religious, occupation,
etc. to suit my needs (but all of those are in the same ahnentafel numbered
notebook for that surname. 
 
Incidentally, I also use the basic color coding for surnames to keep my
paternal direct surname line files, notebooks, and photo albums in blue,
etc.  
 
Finally I am certain of only one thing about organizing our genealogy
records: there must be sufficient time devoted to the task. I find that less
than two hours per month for nothing but organizing is my bare minimum. If I
am hot into research time, I have to reserve at least 1/10 of my time to
organize what I am collecting. 
 
 
 
Loran Ralph Braught
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(812) 535-3618
8380 N. Crestwood Pl
West Terre Haute, IN 47885
 
Researching mostly Braught/Braucht, Bruner, Ruggles, Riley
- Original Message - 
From: Johnny V 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing

One of the best ways I found to organize and classify pictures and documents
for my genealogy is a standard naming convention using the format; 
LastName_ First_Middle_RIN_PhotoNumber (0001, 0002, etc.) for individuals, 
LastName_MRIN_MarriageNumber (1, 2, etc.) for marriages, 
DocumentName_LastName_First_Middle_RIN_DocumentNumber (0001, 0002, etc.) for
Documents, 
Headstone_LastName_First_Middle_RIN for headstone pictures, etc. 

Using this naming convention, you can easily distinguish between people of
the same name using their RIN of the database and also locate different
items such as Manifests, Census, Headstones, etc. in a flash. 

I keep all the photos and documents in the Legacy folder on Drive C in
subfolder Pictures, this way when I want to share any info with relatives
they are very easily located.

Hope this helps
John Valencic 
On 4/14/07, Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Sally
Saving your images as a .tiff file is the commonly accepted 'best way' to 
keep digital copies of your original.  This would then become your 

RE: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing

2007-04-15 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Mary
Yes; that currently is the only option without using a supplemental program.
Hopefully the Legacy staff will include additional Image/File ID report
options in the next release given the popularity of attaching images to
individuals and Source detail.
Gary

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M. Brenzel
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 3:37 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing
> 
> Gary,
> 
> I have used the FILE ID report under Miscellaneous Reports.  I'm not
> aware of any other.
> 
> Mary
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 3:29 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing
> 
> 
> 
> You are correct Mary.  And as you suggest, why a simple, non-specific
> (generic) File ID is useful---such as P0001 (Photograph), D0001
> (Document),
> N0001 (Newspaper), B0001 (Bldg/Monument), C0001 (Census), L0001
> (Letter/Correspondence), R0001 (Recording), etc.  The File ID can then
> be
> attached to as many individuals as applicable.
> 
> What method do you use to create a report of File IDs and Individuals?
> Gary
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M.
> Brenzel
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 12:54 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing
> 
> And what do you do for pictures of more than 1 person?  And what about
> cemetery monuments that have more than 1 person on it?  And what about
> documents that have more than 1 person on them, such as a Census?
> 
> That’s why I have chosen to do all of my file names (documents and
> photos)
> generic.
> 
> Mary
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johnny
> V
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 10:17 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing
> 
> One of the best ways I found to organize and classify pictures and
> documents
> for my genealogy is a standard naming convention using the format;
> LastName_ First_Middle_RIN_PhotoNumber (0001, 0002, etc.) for
> individuals,
> LastName_MRIN_MarriageNumber (1, 2, etc.) for marriages,
> DocumentName_LastName_First_Middle_RIN_DocumentNumber (0001, 0002, etc.)
> for
> Documents,
> Headstone_LastName_First_Middle_RIN for headstone pictures, etc.
> 
> Using this naming convention, you can easily distinguish between people
> of
> the same name using their RIN of the database and also locate different
> items such as Manifests, Census, Headstones, etc. in a flash.
> 
> I keep all the photos and documents in the Legacy folder on Drive C in
> subfolder Pictures, this way when I want to share any info with
> relatives
> they are very easily located.
> 
> Hope this helps
> John Valencic
> On 4/14/07, Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sally
> Saving your images as a .tiff file is the commonly accepted 'best way'
> to
> keep digital copies of your original.  This would then become your
> 'master
> copy'.
> 
> From that you could make .jpgs to whatever file size you deem
> appropriate
> for use (website, email atch, Legacy image, etc).
> 
> As for where to file your digital images, opinions on this will vary.  I
> have one folder under my Legacy directory titled "Images".  Within this
> folder I have several sub-folders.   My preference is to keep all
> 'people'
> images in one sub-folder titled "Photograph".  I also have digital
> images of
> buildings, monuments, correspondence, newspaper articles, census
> records,
> documents, etc.  These are also all filed in separate sub-folders
> according
> to their subject category.
> 
> How you title your images is also a matter of personal preference.  I
> prefer
> a simple numbering system (File ID).  For example, my "Photographs" are
> labeled P0001, P0002, P0003, and so on.  My "Documents" are labeled
> D0001,
> D0002, D0003, and so on.  The same applies to my other image categories.
> 
> Legacy allows you to capture details of each image by providing image
> fields
> such as "Caption", "Date", "Description", and "File ID".  And also
> permits
> assigning images to specific individuals.  This is where I recor

RE: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing

2007-04-15 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara


You are correct Mary.  And as you suggest, why a simple, non-specific
(generic) File ID is useful---such as P0001 (Photograph), D0001 (Document),
N0001 (Newspaper), B0001 (Bldg/Monument), C0001 (Census), L0001
(Letter/Correspondence), R0001 (Recording), etc.  The File ID can then be
attached to as many individuals as applicable.

What method do you use to create a report of File IDs and Individuals?
Gary

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M. Brenzel
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 12:54 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing

And what do you do for pictures of more than 1 person?  And what about
cemetery monuments that have more than 1 person on it?  And what about
documents that have more than 1 person on them, such as a Census?

That’s why I have chosen to do all of my file names (documents and photos)
generic.

Mary

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johnny V
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 10:17 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing

One of the best ways I found to organize and classify pictures and documents
for my genealogy is a standard naming convention using the format; 
LastName_ First_Middle_RIN_PhotoNumber (0001, 0002, etc.) for individuals, 
LastName_MRIN_MarriageNumber (1, 2, etc.) for marriages, 
DocumentName_LastName_First_Middle_RIN_DocumentNumber (0001, 0002, etc.) for
Documents, 
Headstone_LastName_First_Middle_RIN for headstone pictures, etc. 

Using this naming convention, you can easily distinguish between people of
the same name using their RIN of the database and also locate different
items such as Manifests, Census, Headstones, etc. in a flash. 

I keep all the photos and documents in the Legacy folder on Drive C in
subfolder Pictures, this way when I want to share any info with relatives
they are very easily located.

Hope this helps
John Valencic 
On 4/14/07, Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Sally
Saving your images as a .tiff file is the commonly accepted 'best way' to 
keep digital copies of your original.  This would then become your 'master
copy'.

>From that you could make .jpgs to whatever file size you deem appropriate
for use (website, email atch, Legacy image, etc). 

As for where to file your digital images, opinions on this will vary.  I
have one folder under my Legacy directory titled "Images".  Within this
folder I have several sub-folders.   My preference is to keep all 'people' 
images in one sub-folder titled "Photograph".  I also have digital images of
buildings, monuments, correspondence, newspaper articles, census records,
documents, etc.  These are also all filed in separate sub-folders according 
to their subject category.

How you title your images is also a matter of personal preference.  I prefer
a simple numbering system (File ID).  For example, my "Photographs" are
labeled P0001, P0002, P0003, and so on.  My "Documents" are labeled D0001, 
D0002, D0003, and so on.  The same applies to my other image categories.

Legacy allows you to capture details of each image by providing image fields
such as "Caption", "Date", "Description", and "File ID".  And also permits 
assigning images to specific individuals.  This is where I record the
necessary details about each image.

Unfortunately as yet Legacy only provides one report format for this
information.  The report sorts by File ID.  Suggestions have been submitted 
to also include an alphabetical sort and other image report options.

Until then one must use a supplemental program to report details of the
images.  Many people use MS Access since Access is directly compatible with 
Legacy's data base.  However, this requires a reasonable understanding of
the Access program and its interface with Legacy to generate the desired
reports.  Not a lighthearted undertaking.

Once Legacy establishes a more sophisticated report capability for images, 
the process will be simple and efficient.

If I can help further with any specific questions, feel free to email me
directly.

Gary
O'Fallon IL, USA
 



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RE: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing

2007-04-14 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Sally
Saving your images as a .tiff file is the commonly accepted 'best way' to
keep digital copies of your original.  This would then become your 'master
copy'.

>From that you could make .jpgs to whatever file size you deem appropriate
for use (website, email atch, Legacy image, etc).

As for where to file your digital images, opinions on this will vary.  I
have one folder under my Legacy directory titled "Images".  Within this
folder I have several sub-folders.   My preference is to keep all 'people'
images in one sub-folder titled "Photograph".  I also have digital images of
buildings, monuments, correspondence, newspaper articles, census records,
documents, etc.  These are also all filed in separate sub-folders according
to their subject category.

How you title your images is also a matter of personal preference.  I prefer
a simple numbering system (File ID).  For example, my "Photographs" are
labeled P0001, P0002, P0003, and so on.  My "Documents" are labeled D0001,
D0002, D0003, and so on.  The same applies to my other image categories.

Legacy allows you to capture details of each image by providing image fields
such as "Caption", "Date", "Description", and "File ID".  And also permits
assigning images to specific individuals.  This is where I record the
necessary details about each image.

Unfortunately as yet Legacy only provides one report format for this
information.  The report sorts by File ID.  Suggestions have been submitted
to also include an alphabetical sort and other image report options. 

Until then one must use a supplemental program to report details of the
images.  Many people use MS Access since Access is directly compatible with
Legacy's data base.  However, this requires a reasonable understanding of
the Access program and its interface with Legacy to generate the desired
reports.  Not a lighthearted undertaking.

Once Legacy establishes a more sophisticated report capability for images,
the process will be simple and efficient.

If I can help further with any specific questions, feel free to email me
directly.

Gary
O'Fallon IL, USA
 
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sally Macias
> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 7:45 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing
> 
> I'm trying to figure out how to organize the pictures.  With an HP scanner
> the image goes to the HP Solutions Center which apparently stores the
scans
> by date.  I've been opening them and doing some modest editing, then
saving
> them in TIFF format to an external hard drive.  Then I open the tiff
images
> in Photoshop Elements and do more dramatic editing and save as jpeg on
> external drive, in folder of edited images, to post to MyFamily website
and
> to use in email.  This seems like a lot of manipulating for each image and
> at this point I still have to add the image to Legacy. I've got multiple
> copies of each image but not really a backup since they're in different
> formats and stages of editing and sizes.  Before adding too many more I
need
> to figure out a filing system--in separate family folders,
> lastnamefirstname+brief description or date if I have it, is what I'm
> thinking so far.  Is there a better way to do this?  What are the rest of
> you doing to organize your photos, what programs are you using?
> 
> Sally Macias



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[LegacyUG] Events--Sorting Order

2007-03-03 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
When Events are chronologically sorted, and two events have the same date,
what determines the ultimate order of appearance?

I manually resorted two Events containing identical date information
(different Event/Fact Definition titles) and upon doing an auto Event
Sort-By-Date I see the Events were realigned.  And not alpha by Event/Fact
title.  I would have thought the manual sorting of identical date
information on a chronological sort would take secondary precedence over any
other.

On a related topic---I agree with many others who in the Archives have
suggested that an option be provided to permit Event sorting by date remain
in effect for all future entries (with Individual over-ride when desired).

Thanks,
Gary



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[LegacyUG] "All Pictures"

2007-03-02 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson- Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara

I would like to hear opinions on the defintion of "All Pictures".

When in the Individual Picture Gallery the default is "Individual".  This
doesn't appear possible to change--I would rather "All Pictures" be my
default.  Is it possible to change the default here?  That's not the main
issue, just an aside question. The main issue is what constitues "ALL
Pictures".

When "All Pictures" is selected in the Individual Picture Gallery, I then
see pictures within the Individual Picture Gallery plus those attached to
Individual Events, Individual Information, and Marriage.  Well, not ALL
marriage pictures.  I don't see pictures attached to marriage Events.  To
see "All" marriage pictures I then have to go to the Marriage Picture
Gallery and select All Pictures" to see what if any pictures are also
attached to marriage Events.  Of course unless I look for these event
pictures I don't even know they exist.  Which means everytime I want to see
"ALL Pictures", I have to check both the Individual Picture Gallery and the
Marriage Picture Gallery and select "All Pictures" in  both areas.

And even then I don't see "ALL Pictures".  There are several pictures
attached to Source information pertaining to these individuals.  There is no
option I can find that permits viewing of "All Pictures" assigned to Sources
pertaining to an individual.  Unless that is I go to each individual
assigned Source.

The bottom line is:  To truly find "All Pictures" pertaining/attached to an
individual, one must search several different locations on the off chance a
picture is available.  Seems there should be a better way.

I might also add, I'm focused right now on "Pictures".  The same could be
said for other attached files such as Audio, Video, and in my case, also
PDF.

Have others experienced this as being a problem, or see it as a potential
problem as your Picture (et al attached files) inventory increases?

It occurs to me a provision needs to be added that truly enables the viewing
of "ALL Pictures", and/or "All Attached FIles" pertaining to an individual.
Or possibly one exists I'm not aware of, in which case please help me find
it.

Thanks,
Gary



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[LegacyUG] Not receiving LUG emails

2007-02-26 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
I have not been receiving LUG emails for the last couple days.  No changes
were made to my system.  Have others had a problem?  Suggested fix
(re-register)?
Gary



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RE: [LegacyUG] thanks

2007-02-25 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
I was beginning to think my computer was broken.  This is the first email
I've seen from the list in 24 hours.  Not even sure what the message applies
to but it's good to know my machine is still functioning. :)
Gary

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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] thanks

Good afternoon;
 
Thanks to Kirsten, Elsie, Alice and Dawn.
It is quite a puzzle just to change a name 
But anyway it does work
Jude








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RE: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names

2007-02-23 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Ergo the reason I use the area thought to be intended specifically for this
purpose, Alternate Names, which provides ample space for multiple AKAs.
Gary

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> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 10:01 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names
> 
> What do people do when there is more than one "known as" name as is the
case
> with my daughter.
> 
> Her full name is Kathryn Andrea Martell. Some people call her Kathryn,
some
> call her Kathy, some call her Kate, and I usually call her Kath. She
> responds to all of them apparently not even noticing which one is being
> used.
> 
> I haven't tested it but I am assuming that putting in more than one quoted
> name would simply confuse Legacy and lead to confused and erratic results.
> 
> 
> Wayne Martell
> Victoria, BC, Canada



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RE: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names

2007-02-22 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Shame on me for taking the literal interpretation of "Also Known As" to mean
also known as.  So if John Paul Smith was also known as Paul, then that's
how I entered him, AKA "Paul".  And this entry went into the Alternate Name
area.  Disappointing to now learn those many, many dozens of AKAs should
have been placed elsewhere if I wanted them to be seen in reports.

To me the logical conclusion would be providing a report option that would
include names listed in the Alternate Name area in reports if so desired. 
Gary


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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cathy
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 8:19 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names
> 
> Hi Gary,
> 
> If you put the "known as" name in the AKA, you cannot choose to use
> it in narrative.
> 
> So your narratives will read:
> John married
> 
> John worked in the railways
> 
> If you use the "Quoted Name" you'll get
> Paul married
> 
> Paul worked in the railways.
> 
> AKAs - other names for someone. Quoted Name - the name they were
> known by that you wish to use in a report.
> Confusion: Nicknames may be both.
> 
> Cathy
> 
> At 08:41 AM 23/02/2007, you wrote:
> 
> >The only down side I can see by displaying the name as you do is the
> >question whether "Paul", in the name John "Paul" Smith, is actually a
middle
> >name or just a 'known as' name.
> >
> >By displaying it John Paul "Paul" Smith, there is absolutely no question
> >that Paul is the middle name as well as the 'known as' name.
> >
> >Personally, I use the latter.  But, in the method described in my earlier
> >email.  By placing the 'known as' name in the Alternate Name area of
Legacy.
> >Thinking this was the area designed for such use.
> >Gary



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RE: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names

2007-02-22 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
The only down side I can see by displaying the name as you do is the
question whether "Paul", in the name John "Paul" Smith, is actually a middle
name or just a 'known as' name.

By displaying it John Paul "Paul" Smith, there is absolutely no question
that Paul is the middle name as well as the 'known as' name.

Personally, I use the latter.  But, in the method described in my earlier
email.  By placing the 'known as' name in the Alternate Name area of Legacy.
Thinking this was the area designed for such use.
Gary

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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Hagen
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 5:25 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names
> 
> I have been doing it the way you do it, Myrna, and I like it that way.
> Unless there is a rule that says it should be done the other way, I will
> leave mine the way it is.
> Mary
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 5:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names
> 
> 
> > Well shoot! Now I have to go change mine again. I assumed that
> > using the quoted name, i.e, John "Paul" Smith would be correct.
> > So far on the few reports I have done where I told it to use
> > quoted names it has been correct. Now you are telling me that I
> > need to go back and put in the full given name then in quotes put
> > the call name, i.e., John Paul "Paul" Smith? The only time I
> > have done this is when it is a nickname and not part of the given
> > name. As the commercial says "Someone please help me". Tell me it
> > is okay!
> > Myrna



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RE: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names

2007-02-22 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
And in regard to 'known as' names---I have been placing these names under
the Alternate Names feature of Legacy, and using quotes around them.  For
instance if the individual's name is William John Smith, but he goes by
"Billy", I enter "Billy" in the Alternate Given Name block.   Is this not
where such should be placed??
Gary


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> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names
> 
> Mary
> I agree with you. If his name is John Paul SMITH and he is known as John
> then his name is simply entered as John Paul SMITH. However if he is
> known as Paul then he should be John Paul "Paul" SMITH.
> Thus, if he is John Paul "Paul" SMITH, in Reports, if you chose "Remove
> quoted given names" he shows as John Paul SMITH, an if you ALSO choose
> "Use quoted given names for narratives" he will he referred to as Paul.
> Cheers
> gm



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RE: [LegacyUG] Copying Source Detail

2007-02-21 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Thanks Nick.  The process though a little clunky seems functional enough.
Certainly beats restroking it all over again.

Now to remember where all those Source Details were previously used so they
can be revisited when needed.  Is there an insiders trick I'm not seeing to
that (without getting into a major discussion on Source defining)?
Gary


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> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Source Detail
> 
> I know this has been covered in other answers but this
> is what I do:
> If I want to pickup a source and detail entered
> anytime in the past, I go to that item, highlight it,
> and push the Clipboard symbol (those things that look
> like two papers on top of each other in the lower left
> screen.) This will erase whatever has been on the
> Clipboard and will ask you if you want to include the
> Details, which you would answer "yes". Then you go to
> where you want this Source/Detail group, highlight the
> line and push the small line under the triangle. The
> Source and detail will be deposited there.
> I hope I made myself clear. Learning this trick has
> saved a lot of time doing the various manipulations
> mentioned in some of the answers.
> Nick Cirillo
> Fairfax, VA



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RE: [LegacyUG] Copying Source Detail

2007-02-20 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Ron, Elsie
Thank you for your explanations.

Your answers gave me the direction I needed.

My intent was to post Source Details to a new record.  The same Source
Details that had been previously applied to another record some days ago.  I
couldn't find where it explained the process of copying the previous Source
Detail so to apply it to the new record.

Gary

 

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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elsie Saar
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 8:29 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Source Detail
> 
> Gary, if I understand you correctly, just go back to the record with
> the source you want, highlight the source, and click on the copy icon.
> That will copy both the master source and the source detail. Click on
> the triangle to verify it copied what you wanted. If I misunderstood
> you, please try to explain to me what you want to do.
> Hope this helps.
> Elsie Scharpf Saar
> 
> http://community.webshots.com/user/saarlc
> 
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> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 12:32 PM
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Copying Source Detail
> 
> 
> >I didn't see this covered in either the manual, training CDs, or help
> > contents.
> >
> > I previously applied Source Detail information to a record using the
> > Source
> > Clipboard.  I have since moved on to other records using other
> > sources.
> >
> > Is there a way to go back to the original record and copy the
> > previously
> > applied Source Detail in order to apply it elsewhere?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Gary
> >
> >
> >
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[LegacyUG] Copying Source Detail

2007-02-20 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
I didn't see this covered in either the manual, training CDs, or help
contents.

I previously applied Source Detail information to a record using the Source
Clipboard.  I have since moved on to other records using other sources.

Is there a way to go back to the original record and copy the previously
applied Source Detail in order to apply it elsewhere?

Thanks
Gary 



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RE: [LegacyUG] Replace Sound or Video Icon

2007-02-16 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Ron
The icon (perhaps 'image' would have been a better word use) I was referring
to is that which appears in the Picture Gallery after you attach a file.  I
changed the image to something of my own creation.

The Legacy Button icon on the right side of the screen in Picture Gallery
still says 'Video'.  However, now when I attach a file using that button my
own image choice appears in the Picture Gallery frame.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Gary



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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 5:29 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Replace Sound or Video Icon
> 
> Gary,
> 
> There seems to be some misunderstanding here. If you are suggesting that
> somebody said that the sound or video icons could be replaced by another
> *now* from within Legacy then they were wrong as this is not possible. I
> thought that it was suggested that perhaps another icon eg. "Other" could
be
> added at some time in the future.
> 
> I suppose that it imay be possible to replace the video icon with one
> designed by yourself (or 'pinched' from another program) but off the cuff
I
> think it would still say "video" in the box underneath
> 
> Ron Ferguson
> 
> 
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> >From: "Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara"
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> >To: 
> >Subject: [LegacyUG] Replace Sound or Video Icon Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007
> >03:56:06 -0600
> >
> >This is rather a cosmetic issue, but could serve to avoid confusion.  A
> >while back it was implied Sound and Video icons used by Legacy could be
> >replaced by some other icon, for instance one more reflective of a .PDF
> >file
> >attachment.
> >
> >I don't presently have videos to attach so would opt to replace the
current
> >video icon with some other.  If down the road Legacy decides to include a
> >.PDF attachment option I could then switch back.
> >
> >Would someone please explain the process to replace the video icon either
> >on
> >LUG or through a direct reply to me.
> >Thanks
> >Gary
> >
> >
> >
> >
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RE: [LegacyUG] Replace Sound or Video Icon

2007-02-16 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Ref my original message.  I'm embarrassed to admit I found the method
shortly after transmitting my request for help.

In the Legacy program area simply rename the current Legacy video icon file
(lv.jpg) something else.  Then replace it with an .jpg file of your choice.
Be sure to name the new file 'lv.jpg'.  

If anyone else would like to try it and needs more specific directions,
email me.
Gary 


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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson
Hodges-
> Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 3:56 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Replace Sound or Video Icon
> 
> This is rather a cosmetic issue, but could serve to avoid confusion.  A
> while back it was implied Sound and Video icons used by Legacy could be
> replaced by some other icon, for instance one more reflective of a .PDF
file
> attachment.
> 
> I don't presently have videos to attach so would opt to replace the
current
> video icon with some other.  If down the road Legacy decides to include a
> .PDF attachment option I could then switch back.
> 
> Would someone please explain the process to replace the video icon either
on
> LUG or through a direct reply to me.
> Thanks
> Gary



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[LegacyUG] Replace Sound or Video Icon

2007-02-16 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
This is rather a cosmetic issue, but could serve to avoid confusion.  A
while back it was implied Sound and Video icons used by Legacy could be
replaced by some other icon, for instance one more reflective of a .PDF file
attachment.

I don't presently have videos to attach so would opt to replace the current
video icon with some other.  If down the road Legacy decides to include a
.PDF attachment option I could then switch back.

Would someone please explain the process to replace the video icon either on
LUG or through a direct reply to me.
Thanks
Gary





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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy - What is it for?

2007-02-15 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Ron
I smiled when I read your email and Dick's.  I go back a ways too---1982,
Family Roots, Apple IIc.  Before that it was exclusively stubby pencil and
paper.

The 1982 days saw the barest of bones for a computer genealogy
program---but, oh my, it was SO much better than that ole stubby pencil.

I remember my grandmother complaining of the first automobiles--who needed
radios and windshield wipers?  What would she would think of today's cars
with DVD screens and voice navigation systems.  And electric starters!!  Why
that ole handcrank worked just fine.
 
Those days do have an air of romantic charm.  Life sans indoor plumbing,
refrigeration, electricity, telephones, gas engines, central heat, Legacy
7.0.  Bawho needs it!

;) 
Gary

p.s. excuse the duplicate posting if indeed this is, I didn't see the
original post come through.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:LegacyUserGroup- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> ronald ferguson
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 3:46 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy - What is it for?
> 
> Following recent suggestions for additions to Legacy I received the 
> email below from a long standing user of Legacy. As his views broadly 
> speaking reflect mine I thought members of LUG may be interested in an 
> alternative perspective.
> 
> Ron Ferguson
> 
> From :  dlks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent :  14 February 2007 20:48:53
> To :
> CC :  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject :  RE: [LegacyUG] Publishing Center suggestion ...
> 
> I've been a LEGACY user / supporter since their first version in the early
> '90s and am always amazed with how   ...  in every new version   ... they
> are adding more and more "features" to what SHOULD be a Family History /
> Genealogy program   ...  mainly to satisfy people who don't want to ( or
are
> unable to ) use / invest in a word processor, photo editing, etc. 
> etc., program(s), but are always "demanding" that tools like those be 
> added to the program. All the arguments about being "needed" and / or 
> ( maybe ) useful might be valid for some, but just tend to clutter up 
> and detract from the programs intended function ...  that of a 
> Genealogy program.
> 
> All the postings on the users group site tend to reflect that  by all 
> the "confusion" all these additions are causing.
> 
> I am not subscribed to the list, because I got tired of reading all 
> the "wish list" and endless complaints because "something can't be 
> figured out" postings  ...  I periodically read the list archives and 
> find many of the postings borderline comical.
> 
> It makes me wonder how these people even find time to actually DO any 
> Family History research, and what they would do if they had to use the 
> "old" before computers pencil, paper, phone, and mail method of 
> research.
> 
> Please  ... leave the program as it's intended to be!
> 
> Dick



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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy - What is it for?

2007-02-14 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Ron
I smiled when I read your email and Dick's.  I go back a ways too---1982,
Family Roots, Apple IIc.  Before that it was exclusively stubby pencil and
paper.

The 1982 days saw the barest of bones for a computer genealogy
program---but, oh my, it was SO much better than that ole stubby pencil.

I remember my grandmother complaining of the first automobiles--who needed
radios and windshield wipers?  What would she would think of today's cars
with DVD screens and voice navigation systems.  And electric starters!!  Why
that ole handcrank worked just fine.
 
Those days do have an air of romantic charm.  Life sans indoor plumbing,
refrigeration, electricity, telephones, gas engines, central heat, Legacy
7.0.  Bawho needs it!

:)
Gary



 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 3:46 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy - What is it for?
> 
> 
> Following recent suggestions for additions to Legacy I received the email
> below from a long standing user of Legacy. As his views broadly speaking
> reflect mine I thought members of LUG may be interested in an alternative
> perspective.
> 
> Ron Ferguson
> 
> From :  dlks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent :  14 February 2007 20:48:53
> To :
> CC :  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject :  RE: [LegacyUG] Publishing Center suggestion ...
> 
> 
> I've been a LEGACY user / supporter since their first version in the early
> '90s and am always amazed with how   ...  in every new version   ... they
> are adding more and more "features" to what SHOULD be a Family History /
> Genealogy program   ...  mainly to satisfy people who don't want to ( or
are
> unable to ) use / invest in a word processor, photo editing, etc. etc.,
> program(s), but are always "demanding" that tools like those be added to
the
> program. All the arguments about being "needed" and / or ( maybe ) useful
> might be valid for some, but just tend to clutter up and detract from the
> programs intended function ...  that of a Genealogy program.
> 
> All the postings on the users group site tend to reflect that  by all the
> "confusion" all these additions are causing.
> 
> I am not subscribed to the list, because I got tired of reading all the
> "wish list" and endless complaints because "something can't be figured
out"
> postings  ...  I periodically read the list archives and find many of the
> postings borderline comical.
> 
> It makes me wonder how these people even find time to actually DO any
Family
> History research, and what they would do if they had to use the "old"
before
> computers pencil, paper, phone, and mail method of research.
> 
> Please  ... leave the program as it's intended to be!
> 
> Dick
> 
> 
> researching SCHWEISS, MEIER, SCHMIDT / SCHMITT
> Visit my website at:
> http://www.harbornet.com/folks/dick/SchweissFamilyHistory2.htm
> 
> 
> _
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[LegacyUG] Indiviual Report and Marriage Events

2007-02-13 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
In a previous email, sorry at the time it wasn't an issue so didn't save it,
it was mentioned marriage events will not appear on individual reports.  I
shrugged it off.

After a little more thought it occurred to me I've been putting addresses in
marriage events when the addresses applied to both husband and wife.

I realize an Individual Report is an 'Individual' Report.  However, doesn't
marriage information also apply to each 'Individual'??  It would seem
appropriate to include marriage information to have a complete record of
events affecting each individual on the Individual Report.

I suppose the consequence is then having duplicate information on the
Individual Reports for both husband and wife.  But I'd rather that than not
have the information on either.

Thoughts?  Work arounds (other than not using marriage events for
information I'd like appearing on Individual Reports)??
Thanks
Gary



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RE: [LegacyUG] Highly Recommend the Training Videos

2007-02-11 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Thanks Sherry, will do.  The Sources training video is not available.  All
this talk has me jazzed about getting it now.
Gary
 

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> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 9:10 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Highly Recommend the Training Videos
> 
> Gary,
> 
> I have no idea what any shipping status is. You'll have to contact Sales
> about that.  Their email address is mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and
> their phone number for US and Canada is 1-800-753-3453.
> 
> Pegi is on vacation this week but Janelle or Bryan can help you.
> 
> Thanks for using Legacy.
> 
> Sherry
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
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RE: [LegacyUG] Highly Recommend the Training Videos

2007-02-11 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara

Sherry
Can you tell me when the Sources CD will be ready for shipping?
Gary

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> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 7:05 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Highly Recommend the Training Videos
> 
> Peggy,
> 
> Thanks!!
> 
> The training videos are really popular and I'm always hearing from users
> about how much they have helped them to enjoy Legacy even more!
> 
> It's easy to get started with Legacy on your own, but the training videos
> add a whole other dimension to using the program.  We're really lucky to
> have Geoff as our trainer 
> 
> If any of you haven't seen them yet, you can go to
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Videos.asp to view the list of videos
> available.  There are a lot more than four now!
> 
> Thanks for using Legacy.
> 
> Sherry
> Customer Support
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[LegacyUG] Adoption

2007-02-10 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
I checked the archives, but still am not certain of the consensus regarding
this situation.

Child's biological father dies while child is an infant.
Mother remarries while child is still a baby.
New husband adopts child while child is still a baby.
Child now assumes same surname as adopted father.
Yet, child still shows as 1/2 child among his siblings and sorts at end of
sibling list.

Is there a commonly accepted means to grant "full child" status to this
adopted child?  Or, should that never occur out of proper recording
methodology?

One other twist---

As currently stands in my data base, this adopted child shows as 1/2 child
among his siblings.  And his siblings show as 1/2 children under their
mother's first marriage.  However, husband of first marriage died before any
other those children were born.

I am missing the method to make this right.  I tried delinking children, but
this only delinked the children from the mother as well--not my intended
move.

How is this handled?
Thanks again for allowing me to retill what likely has been covered before
but not easily identified in the archives.
Gary



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RE: [LegacyUG] .PDF versus .JPG

2007-02-10 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Ron
Getting back to your reply regarding .pdf versus .jpg.  For multiple page
images, such as letters, do you have another solution to adding them as
images in a single file other than .pdf?
Thanks
Gary
   
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 5:06 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] .PDF versus .JPG
> 
> Gary,
> 
> I wouldn't. I can see no advatages at all, only the minuses.
> 
> Ron Ferguson
> _
> 
> >From: "Olds-will-anderson-simonson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> >To: 
> >Subject: [LegacyUG] .PDF versus .JPG
> >Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:26:38 -0600
> >
[Snip]
> >Would anyone care to share their opinion of the advantage of attaching
> >files as .PDF rather than .JPG?  The example I'll use is a census page.
Why
> >would one rather attach a .PDF of a census page rather than a .JPG of the
same
> >image?  The same question would apply to other images such as letters,
> >documents, etc.
[Snip]
> >Gary
> >Near St Louis MO USA



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RE: [LegacyUG] Notes in 'Family View'

2007-01-27 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Thank you Glen.  I see your point and now realize that would be the correct
way to proceed.

General Notes, Research and Medical appear to have means to associate only a
single Source each to.

Gary 

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Ballard
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 8:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Notes in 'Family View'

Gary,

I use events.  You can put separate notes in separate events and source each
event.

Glen Ballard



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Subject: [LegacyUG] Notes in 'Family View'


While entering General Notes from the Family screen it occurred to me I may
need some method of identifying which Source applies to which note since the
notes run on.  Is there a common method in practice for linking a note
statement to Source?  I thought perhaps prefacing the new note paragraph
with a notation such as "Note 1" would work, then referencing "Note 1" in
Source Detail.  Thoughts?

Further.  If using the above method (Note 1, Note 2, Note 3, etc), should it
be necessary to make a note private, it could be an obvious omission if the
note references skipped from Note 3 to Note 5 for instance in an
individual's report.  Has anyone run across this possibility and discovered
a way to avoid it?

Thanks
Gary



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[LegacyUG] Notes in 'Family View'

2007-01-27 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
While entering General Notes from the Family screen it occurred to me I may
need some method of identifying which Source applies to which note since the
notes run on.  Is there a common method in practice for linking a note
statement to Source?  I thought perhaps prefacing the new note paragraph
with a notation such as "Note 1" would work, then referencing "Note 1" in
Source Detail.  Thoughts?

Further.  If using the above method (Note 1, Note 2, Note 3, etc), should it
be necessary to make a note private, it could be an obvious omission if the
note references skipped from Note 3 to Note 5 for instance in an
individual's report.  Has anyone run across this possibility and discovered
a way to avoid it?

Thanks
Gary  



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RE: [LegacyUG] .PDF versus .JPG

2007-01-27 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Dale
Thanks for your thorough explanation.  If you and others don't mind I would
appreciate your advice with a couple more image related issues that affect
my Legacy workings.

I will soon be wrapping up my scanning and attaching photographs,
thankfully.  It has been a huge undertaking as my photo inventory is in the
thousands.  I'm thankful to have all these old family photos, but
identifying, dating, and numbering each seemed never-ending.  These were all
single page images as most photos are.

Soon I will be scanning letters, multiple page images.  Do you have a
recommendation on how best to accomplish this if the intent is to attach
these multiple page images to Legacy?  I'd prefer attaching each multiple
page letter as a single file.

The second question relates to .TIF versus .JPG.  I realize .TIF files offer
greater detail than .JPGs, but result in larger file sizes.  In your opinion
given most original images fall within the size range of 2x4 to 8x10 inches,
what advantage would there be to using .TIF for Legacy images (if printing
back to original size is all that is desired)?  And a follow-up, in your
opinion what is the most practical .JPG scan resolution needed for this
size?

I don't mean for this to get into a .TIF versus .JPG debate, it is likely
purists would support the .TIF argument if space limitations were of no
consequence.  But even if space is not an issue, I'm wondering if there is a
point of diminishing return given the more common acceptance of .JPG images.
Particularly given the intent of only restoring an image to its original
size (normally up to an 8x10).

Sorry if you feel this stretches the limit of the Legacy UserGroup list, but
to me getting the image thing as close to right, up front, will prevent
spending time correcting how they were posted to Legacy later.

Thanks again for everyone's opinion.  Hope others will also find the answers
useful.
Gary 

 

 
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] .PDF versus .JPG

Sara and Others:
 
I have been following this discussion with interest, trying to decide
whether I wanted to add my two cents to this discussion.
 
I am a retired printer and could write a book on using the proper type of
files. But I will try to keep this short.
 
First let me say that I am a big fan of PDF files. They are very reliable
and are not really slow, when used in the proper way.
 
As to the application (scanned census page) that started this discussion, no
do not use a PDF(Portable Document File). The key thing here is document not
image. If the file is a scanned file i.e. image or picture then a JPG or TIF
would be the desired format. 
 
A PDF is used to transport a whole page or pages of a document. It is
usually the result of printing a document not scanning it. While it may
contain images(pictures) it is usually mostly text. It should be noted that
most of the printed items that you received in the mail were probably a PDF
file at sometime.
 
As to using PDFs as web pages, the display will be somewhat slower then a
jpeq, if the PDF was printed and not scanned it will generally be clearer.
 
The advantage of  making PDF files rather the making HTML files is that the
PDF file is a single file.
 
I could go on, but that should be enough for now. 
 
Dale
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Personally I dislike pdf files, finding them slow to load and unreliable.

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RE: [LegacyUG] .PDF versus .JPG

2007-01-26 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Cathy
Thanks for responding.  I hadn't considered possible advantages of using
.PDFs for webpages (I'm not there yet) if indeed there are any.

Of course converting Forms to a .PDF that can be filled in electronically by
a recipient and emailed back is certainly a plus.  But even there, once
received the .PDF I believe could be converted to .JPG if you wanted to use
the Form as a Source attachment.

Gary

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PDFs can't be included in Legacy Reports, JPGs can

- though for Census images usually at an unreadable size unless you 
organise them so that you can add a Scrapbook to a Book in the 
Publishing Centre.

I don't know about including the PDFs in webpages. JPGs are 
straightforward - and when clicked can be readable as you can choose 
"original size" for the enlarged image - (you'd need to make sure 
that attached pics weren't bigger than necessary).

Cathy

At 07:26 AM 27/01/2007, you wrote:

>I attempted to locate this answer using the archives, but alas there were
>just too many .jpg subject titles to wade through.  Forgive me for
repeating
>what must have been asked and answered before.
>
>Would anyone care to share their opinion of the advantage of attaching
files
>as .PDF rather than .JPG?  The example I'll use is a census page.  Why
would
>one rather attach a .PDF of a census page rather than a .JPG of the same
>image?  The same question would apply to other images such as letters,
>documents, etc.
>
>Thanks again for responding to a question likely already answered but
>missed.
>Gary
>Near St Louis MO USA



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RE: [LegacyUG] .PDF versus .JPG

2007-01-26 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Ron
Thanks. I agree with you but saw so much communication regarding use of .PDF
files attached to Sources and within the Picture Gallery I thought there was
something I was missing.

As Heather pointed out perhaps .PDF is the only file version you have, but
it seems to me even they could be converted to .JPG to keep file types to a
convenient minimum.
Gary

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Gary,

I wouldn't. I can see no advatages at all, only the minuses.

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>Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>To: 
>Subject: [LegacyUG] .PDF versus .JPG
>Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:26:38 -0600
>
>I attempted to locate this answer using the archives, but alas there were
>just too many .jpg subject titles to wade through.  Forgive me for 
>repeating
>what must have been asked and answered before.
>
>Would anyone care to share their opinion of the advantage of attaching 
>files
>as .PDF rather than .JPG?  The example I'll use is a census page.  Why 
>would
>one rather attach a .PDF of a census page rather than a .JPG of the same
>image?  The same question would apply to other images such as letters,
>documents, etc.
>
>Thanks again for responding to a question likely already answered but
>missed.
>Gary
>Near St Louis MO USA

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RE: [LegacyUG] Who has used Clooz (with or without Legacy)

2007-01-13 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Heather
I experimented with Clooz, older version and 2.0.  I would not have
gotten 2.0 if it weren't for getting it free (because of when I
purchased the older version).

Although I applaud Elizabeth Kerstens' filing methodology, using the
program along with Legacy results in double-entry recordkeeping.  In
other words, after the initial merge of files between Legacy and Clooz,
every record entered into either program after that point must also be
restroked into the other program.  The value of Clooz thus comes at the
expense of time and accuracy.

With just a few seemingly simple additions to the Legacy program, most
of the important features offered by Clooz could be done more
efficiently within the Legacy program.  If it were me, rather than
spending time learning to navigate through Clooz and entering reams of
redundant data I would hold off and use the existing Legacy file system
tools, and wait until a few more refinements are added.

Gary
Near St Louis MO USA

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Who has used Clooz (with or without Legacy)

I was wondering who had used Clooz?  I know I read a few people here
that said that they had used it for a bit, but stopped
 
Had those people used the newer version 2, or an older version?
 
What problems did you have that made you decide not to use it?
 
Is there anyone here that is still using it and loves it?
 
If you are using Clooz 2, did you set it to use your Legacy database
directly, or it's own?   If you have it use it's own - do you have to
re-enter everything?  can you access it in legacy, to do a drag-drop on
a split-screen view?   If you use it directly with your Legacy database,
do you like how it formats sources?  Do you find that you end up with a
lot of people that you don't know are related in your Legacy database? 
 
I ended up using my trial time up before I'd really tried it, because I
was worried about putting in a lot of effort entering information that I
wouldn't be able to access if I decided not to use it, or when the time
was up. 
 
 
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[LegacyUG] Marriage events

2007-01-10 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
How common is it among this group to use Events on the Marriage screen
to record common activities of the marriage?  For instance, I've been
considering as a Marriage event our ownership of our pets.  This is only
one example that could lead to other joint ownership/participation
events.

I'm curious how common this already is, and what shortcomings or
advantages other might think of the concept.

Except for perhaps honeymoon or other such strictly Marriage related
activities, what other events do people record in this area?
Thanks
Gary
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RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records--and Source Detail

2007-01-08 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Bob
I'd be happy to submit a suggestion for the two known same sex
partnerships in my database of 3,500+ if you thought it might help your
personal crusade, but I'm afraid I'd be accused of clogging the system
with spam.

Lighten up, it's a joke!  :)   I'm getting a little giddy attaching all
these pictures, captions, descriptions, and FileIDs, to my source
details one, by one, by one, by one, ... 

On a more serious note.  I did try using MS-Access and it does work for
a couple of the roadblocks I was running into.  Was a little antsy at
first tinkering with the source database but it all worked out--or so it
seems.  Just wish that wasn't necessary.  

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RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records--and Source Detail

2007-01-07 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
I'm not about to start debating the merits of public opinion and ways to
address issues.

Suffice to say, there are issues that affect a few, that affect
segments, that affect all.

These are issues affecting ALL Legacy users, not a few or segments.
Whether you speak Chinese or Punjabi, have 1 same-sex partnership to
deal with or 10.  I'm sorry these issues aren't getting addressed by the
Legacy staffers as quickly as those segments would like.

These are global issues affecting everyone, they need fixing.  The way
to make the point of the impact these issues have on proper
documentation is to weigh in with your vote.  Not sitting on your hands.

So this list doesn't make up the majority of Legacy users. I'd wager to
say this group is among the most engaged and aware.  Proportionately,
their numbers speak volumes. A valuable resource for the Legacy
staffers.

Speak up, use the tool Legacy provides to be heard.

Oh, and the last remark from me on this issue:  To suggest that many
people commenting on the value of needed improvements is on the same
plane as "spam" is a terribly faulty analogy, and troubling.

Back to joining the rest, posting our source pictures, record by record,
word by word.  ;)
Gary

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My guess is that this group's membership comprises only a very small
proportion of the number of users of Legacy and in my view it would be
extremely presumptious to make the assumption that even if a significant
number of group members submitted such a request it would be
statistically significant.

It is quite likely that for some nations translation into their own
language would have a much higher priority and I can think of other
illustrations of priorities - not forgetting my continual gripe about
the bugs in the pedigree web page program.

I agree completely that spamming is not the way ahead - it merely wastes
time that can be better spent. The debate has taken place, the
suggestion has been made and no doubt the powers that be are aware of
it.

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual
Records--and Source Detail
> Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 08:45:31 -0600
> 
> Sorry Bob.  Wish I could agree with you.
> 
> There are times it is appropriate to have many voices to be heard.
> 
> Fact of the matter is "suggesting a new Legacy feature" is no
different
> than anything else.  Far more emphasis will be placed on an issue if
> many are interested than if only one.  It's common sense, it's life.
> Attend a city council meeting sometime and see what I mean.
> 
> Personally I wouldn't want Legacy spending time on issues only of
> interest to me.  They need to know MANY are interested in these
> features.  This IS when it's appropriate for many to speak. 
> 
> Gary
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob
> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 8:07 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual
> Records--and Source Detail
> 
> Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara wrote:
> > PLEASE, along with GLOBAL CHANGE OPTION FOR PICTURE CENTER   and
> > ALPHABETIZED FILE-ID REPORT,  please add   PICTURE CENTER TO LINK
> > PICTURES TO SOURCE DETAIL   to your writing campaign ("Suggest A New
> > Feature").
> If you have submitted these requests, the staff are already aware of 
> them.  I hardly think that
> annoying the heck out of them with a ballot-stuffing campaign will
prove
> 
> to be more effective.
> 
> > Lots of voices will be heard.
> >   
> If it were that simple, we would have been able to enter same-sex 
> partnerships a very long
> time ago, since that requires no new code but merely the removal of an

> inappropriate edit check.
> 
> > If you have any questions on how much these features would improve
> your
> > genealogy record collection or would like a method of phrasing any
of
> > these for "Suggest A New Feature", please email me off LUG.
> >   
> Spa

RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records--and Source Detail

2007-01-07 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Sorry Bob.  Wish I could agree with you.

There are times it is appropriate to have many voices to be heard.

Fact of the matter is "suggesting a new Legacy feature" is no different
than anything else.  Far more emphasis will be placed on an issue if
many are interested than if only one.  It's common sense, it's life.
Attend a city council meeting sometime and see what I mean.

Personally I wouldn't want Legacy spending time on issues only of
interest to me.  They need to know MANY are interested in these
features.  This IS when it's appropriate for many to speak. 

Gary

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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual
Records--and Source Detail

Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara wrote:
> PLEASE, along with GLOBAL CHANGE OPTION FOR PICTURE CENTER   and
> ALPHABETIZED FILE-ID REPORT,  please add   PICTURE CENTER TO LINK
> PICTURES TO SOURCE DETAIL   to your writing campaign ("Suggest A New
> Feature").
If you have submitted these requests, the staff are already aware of 
them.  I hardly think that
annoying the heck out of them with a ballot-stuffing campaign will prove

to be more effective.

> Lots of voices will be heard.
>   
If it were that simple, we would have been able to enter same-sex 
partnerships a very long
time ago, since that requires no new code but merely the removal of an 
inappropriate edit check.

> If you have any questions on how much these features would improve
your
> genealogy record collection or would like a method of phrasing any of
> these for "Suggest A New Feature", please email me off LUG.
>   
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RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records--and Source Detail

2007-01-07 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
WHAT!!??  I was afraid this was the answer.

As wonderful as this program is for the collection-storage-retrieval of
genealogy data (and it truly is), we have some ways to go to be fully
useful for source record management---the full other half of the
genealogy equation as Geoff will attest to.

I wrestle with these issues being over-the-edge for a program designed
to keep names, dates, and places in one sock.  Maybe it's too much to
expect of one program.

But Legacy is nearly there--it is SOOO close--with just a few
modifications it would be the total package.  Shaky gap-filling programs
like Clooz would be yesterday's news.  Or, worse, using data base
programs like Access or OO Base to mess with data structure wouldn't be
necessary.

PLEASE, along with GLOBAL CHANGE OPTION FOR PICTURE CENTER   and
ALPHABETIZED FILE-ID REPORT,  please add   PICTURE CENTER TO LINK
PICTURES TO SOURCE DETAIL   to your writing campaign ("Suggest A New
Feature").Lots of voices will be heard.

These three features will move Legacy to the next level in your
genealogy record management world.

If you have any questions on how much these features would improve your
genealogy record collection or would like a method of phrasing any of
these for "Suggest A New Feature", please email me off LUG.

Gary
Near St Louis MO USA 

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Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 1:17 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual
Records--and Source Detail

Sorry Gary,
Currently there isn't another way (I guess there is if you're an 
Access expert but I'm not)

If you don't include the Source Detail picture when you first use the 
source, it's a mind blowing tedious job which you've described very
well.

I decided not to face it - especially since Source pictures can't 
really be included in a Report in a readable format. I don't know 
about web pages as I haven't used them. I just have my digital 
sources filed in a structure that makes them easy for me to find if 
and when I want to refer to them again.

Cathy

At 02:45 PM 7/01/2007, you wrote:

>And while on the subject of Picture Center issues---
>
>Am I missing something or is it not possible to assign photos to Source
>Detail from within the Picture Center?
>
>I looked for an hour trying to figure out a way to attach photos to
>Source Details using some method besides going to every individual
>record.  Couldn't find a way.
>
>Consequently, I spent the next 4 hours attaching several dozen photos,
>PLUS restroking every Caption, Date, Description, and FileID for every
>photo to every record.  This is nuts.
>
>Certainly there has be to a way other than this tediously slow and
error
>prone method.  Please help, tell me there is.  I have hundreds of more
>images to attach to hundreds of Source Details.
>
>Thanks
>Gary



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RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records--and Source Detail

2007-01-06 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
And while on the subject of Picture Center issues---

Am I missing something or is it not possible to assign photos to Source
Detail from within the Picture Center?

I looked for an hour trying to figure out a way to attach photos to
Source Details using some method besides going to every individual
record.  Couldn't find a way.

Consequently, I spent the next 4 hours attaching several dozen photos,
PLUS restroking every Caption, Date, Description, and FileID for every
photo to every record.  This is nuts.

Certainly there has be to a way other than this tediously slow and error
prone method.  Please help, tell me there is.  I have hundreds of more
images to attach to hundreds of Source Details.

Thanks
Gary
Near St Louis MO USA


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I agree entirely

Best wishes

David

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David, et al
I already have a suggestion to this effect submitted.  EVERYONE should
submit a suggestion to this effect.  It has universal application to all
Legacy users.  A lone voice often goes unheard, the roar of a crowd
seldom
goes unnoticed. Gary Near St Louis MO USA

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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records

Hi Gary, Jan, Cathy

I have also noticed this and agree entirely with the mails.  I did
sometime
ago make a suggestion to make this change to the software so that there
is a
global option.  If please send an e-mail to 'suggest a new feature',
this
would then back-up my original suggestion, and perhaps within the
fullness
of time, we might get this (as far as I'm concerned) much needed change.
It
would make my use of the software much easier.

Best wishes to all

David
Polesworth
N.Warks.
England


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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records


I agree - I have often added info to a photo AFTER I have attached it to
someone, and it is a pain having to find everyone with the same photo
attached so I can individually add the same information.

Cheers,
Jan
 
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[Jan Roberts] -snip - 
I would prefer seeing a global change option made available when using
the
Picture List tab so these changes would get made to all records. Much
like
what happens in other areas of the program.

It is not unusual to learn of additional or corrected information for
photo
captions, dates, and descriptions after the initial linking. These
generally
apply to every record the photo is attached to.  Not having the global
option means having to visit every individual record. A tedious process
when
you have photos with large groups and an extensive photo inventory.
 

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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template

2007-01-06 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Thanks for pointing out the examples Nancy.  They were just what I had
in mind.
Gary

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Gary,
Geoff has put together several and they are on the legacy site:
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/tipsSourceSamples.asp
I have used a number of them and find them quite useful.
Nancy



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Whatever terminology you prefer, "template" or "master source", has
anyone complied or seen compiled a list of common master source formats
for such common sources as censuses, vital records, newspapers, draft
registrations, SSDIs, city directories, etc?

I thought such a reference would be handy but didn't want to reinvent
the wheel if someone had already put something together or have seen
something published.

For instance:  If I just picked up a U.S. draft registration card it
would be useful to check this "reference of common sources" to find
examples of how the Master Source for this document should be cited and
examples of how Source Details should be cited.

Any such thing exist?
Gary
Near St Louis MO USA

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This sounds like you have created a master source and you are just
asking
how to use it. If so all you need do is when you enter an event, in this
case a census entry, you need to select the source icon that shows on
the
event screen. This brings up an assigned sources screen and from there
you
choose the 'Cite a Master Source' button, find your 'census template',
fill
in the details and you are done.
Graham

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I am trying to create a template for sources for census events and
can't figure out how to do it.  I created a template called "Census
Template" and added all the data that generally does not change much
like publication, type and repository.  Now I can't figure out how to
use it to create new sources.  Can this be done?

Thanks,

Jim


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RE: [SPAM][LegacyUG] Source Template

2007-01-06 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Whatever terminology you prefer, "template" or "master source", has
anyone complied or seen compiled a list of common master source formats
for such common sources as censuses, vital records, newspapers, draft
registrations, SSDIs, city directories, etc?

I thought such a reference would be handy but didn't want to reinvent
the wheel if someone had already put something together or have seen
something published.

For instance:  If I just picked up a U.S. draft registration card it
would be useful to check this "reference of common sources" to find
examples of how the Master Source for this document should be cited and
examples of how Source Details should be cited.

Any such thing exist?
Gary
Near St Louis MO USA  

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Subject: RE: [SPAM][LegacyUG] Source Template

This sounds like you have created a master source and you are just
asking
how to use it. If so all you need do is when you enter an event, in this
case a census entry, you need to select the source icon that shows on
the
event screen. This brings up an assigned sources screen and from there
you
choose the 'Cite a Master Source' button, find your 'census template',
fill
in the details and you are done.
Graham

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Sent: 04 January 2007 15:11
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Subject: [SPAM][LegacyUG] Source Template

I am trying to create a template for sources for census events and
can't figure out how to do it.  I created a template called "Census
Template" and added all the data that generally does not change much
like publication, type and repository.  Now I can't figure out how to
use it to create new sources.  Can this be done?

Thanks,

Jim


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RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records

2007-01-06 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
David, et al
I already have a suggestion to this effect submitted.  EVERYONE should
submit a suggestion to this effect.  It has universal application to all
Legacy users.  A lone voice often goes unheard, the roar of a crowd
seldom goes unnoticed.
Gary
Near St Louis MO USA

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Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 6:15 AM
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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records

Hi Gary, Jan, Cathy

I have also noticed this and agree entirely with the mails.  I did
sometime
ago make a suggestion to make this change to the software so that there
is a
global option.  If please send an e-mail to 'suggest a new feature',
this
would then back-up my original suggestion, and perhaps within the
fullness
of time, we might get this (as far as I'm concerned) much needed change.
It
would make my use of the software much easier.

Best wishes to all

David
Polesworth
N.Warks.
England


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Sent: 06 January 2007 00:12
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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records


I agree - I have often added info to a photo AFTER I have attached it to
someone, and it is a pain having to find everyone with the same photo
attached so I can individually add the same information.

Cheers,
Jan
 
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[Jan Roberts] -snip - 
I would prefer seeing a global change option made available when using
the
Picture List tab so these changes would get made to all records. Much
like
what happens in other areas of the program.

It is not unusual to learn of additional or corrected information for
photo
captions, dates, and descriptions after the initial linking. These
generally
apply to every record the photo is attached to.  Not having the global
option means having to visit every individual record. A tedious process
when
you have photos with large groups and an extensive photo inventory.
 

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RE: [LegacyUG] File IDs

2007-01-05 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Hi Jim
Hopefully with the resurgence of interest in this topic by several
listers we will see some movement by the Legacy design team in an
upcoming upgrade.

Clooz was too fraught with glitches and promises of tomorrow for me to
spend much time with.  There is also a voice of caution whispering be
wary of tiny publishers developing programs you depend on.

I do applaud the basis of the Clooz filing methodology.
Gary  

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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] File IDs

Gary,
I have submitted those suggestions to "new features". I have also made
the
suggestion to Geoff R at the 2006 Cruise, and at the Chicago National
Genealogy Meeting.
So far I have not seen nor heard anything. I keep hoping, since I have
my
paper copies of documents filed based on the "Clooz" style, although I
do
not use Clooz anymore; simply use the Legacy File ID in the same manner.
Jim






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RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records

2007-01-05 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Hi Cathy
Yes, essentially that's what I meant.  Any changes/additions to
information using the Picture List tab of the Photo Center made after
the initial entry and linking of photos don't get made to the individual
records.  This means any change/addition must be made to each individual
record.

I would prefer seeing a global change option made available when using
the Picture List tab so these changes would get made to all records.
Much like what happens in other areas of the program.

It is not unusual to learn of additional or corrected information for
photo captions, dates, and descriptions after the initial linking.
These generally apply to every record the photo is attached to.  Not
having the global option means having to visit every individual record.
A tedious process when you have photos with large groups and an
extensive photo inventory.

A global change option would make the process exponentially more
efficient in my opinion.

I went to tblBR.  Give me more please.
Thanks
Gary
Near St Louis MO USA  

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records

Hi Gary,
I'm not quite sure what sort of update you mean.
You could be saying that using the Picture Centre isn't attaching 
photos to the individuals.

However, I think you mean that if you add descriptions etc to photos 
in the Picture Centre they aren't added where that picture had 
already been attached. That's the way it has always been since the 
introduction of the Picture Centre.

I think it's to do with the way the picture path and description etc 
are stored in the database.
Instead of everything referring back to one picture, the picture 
path, caption, description and date, order, whether preferred etc are 
linked to the individual. So if everything isn't filled in at the 
time you attach the picture, you have to go to that individual to edit
it.

Hope that makes sense - I'm still on my first cuppa for the day. If 
you know how to open your database in Access see tblBR
Cathy

At 10:19 PM 5/01/2007, you wrote:

>It has been my experience when using the Picture Center that updates
>made to existing data do not get posted to the individual records.
Have
>others experienced the same?
>
>If so, is there an explanation why these changes do not appear in the
>individual records?
>Thanks
>Gary



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RE: [LegacyUG] One tested method of organizing files ...a bit more still

2007-01-05 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Thank you Cathy.  You are absolutely right.  I should have worded my
reply more carefully.  Depending on how you number your FileIDs may
determine how useful this feature is.
Gary

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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] One tested method of organizing files ...a bit
more still

You can use Legacy to find next sequential File ID when you are 
prefacing the number with a code.

Click the binoculars at the end of the File ID field.
Highlight the code + greatest number in the list
Click Select +1

Cathy

At 12:34 PM 5/01/2007, you wrote:

>Jean
>True, the Legacy feature that automatically assigns the next sequential
>FileID can not be used when prefacing the FileID with a letter.
>
>Gary



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[LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records

2007-01-05 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
It has been my experience when using the Picture Center that updates
made to existing data do not get posted to the individual records.  Have
others experienced the same?

If so, is there an explanation why these changes do not appear in the
individual records?
Thanks
Gary
Near St Louis MO USA




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RE: [LegacyUG] One tested method of organizing files ...a bit more still

2007-01-04 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Jean
True, the Legacy feature that automatically assigns the next sequential
FileID can not be used when prefacing the FileID with a letter.

However, the advantage of using the letter prefix to identify record
category in my opinion outweighs the benefit of automatically assigned
sequential FileIDs.  I manually assign the next sequential FileID for my
record categories.  This is made easy by just looking at what my last
number was for that category.

Without the use of a category prefix, I don't know if I'm looking for a
wedding napkin or old uncle Joe's banjo. 

In an ideal world the program would provide a customized option to use
category prefixes.  Then automatically assign the next sequential FileID
number when that prefix is used.  I don't see that happening.

Whether you choose to use category prefixes or not, your method of
filing and use of FileIDs are right on.

Gary
Near St Louis MO USA

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] One tested method of organizing files ...a bit
more still

Gary,

I tried using a letter in front of the number for my adoptive family 
database so that when I'm gone that database could be willed to
descendants 
of that family and separated by my children easily. The problem is that
then 
the ability to see what the next number is in "file id" in Legacy is
lost, 
so I discarded that and do not put a letter in front of anything.

An alphabetical report would be helpful. Right now I also have a
database in 
Works where I can search on any field and within fields (ie, family name

field with several names in it separated by two spaces) to find sources
and 
info. This way the adoptive family sources could be separated via this
sort.
Jean

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still


> Jean's points are dead on.  Excerpts below.
>
> Only one suggestion, assign records to categories before assigning
File
> Numbers.  Thus, census records would be C0001, newspaper articles
would
> be N0001, photographs would be P0001, and so on.  Just as would be
done
> in a library system.  I can provide more on categories if requested.
>
> A record filing system is a record filing system.  It is a system for
> filing and retrieving records.  Don't make it be something it's not,
> it's not for people identification and association.  That's best
handled
> by programs like Legacy.
>
> Please join me in lobbying Legacy to add a report for File Numbers
> sorted alphabetically which would list LName, FName/MI, FileNumber,
> Date, Caption, and Description.
>
> Gary
> Near St Louis MO USA





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RE: [LegacyUG] File IDs

2007-01-04 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
This responds to both Jim and Nancy's comments.

First, Jim.  You are exactly correct.  Legacy does not provide a File ID
report sorted alphabetically by name.  This is a serious shortcoming for
the many of us who file records "the correct way" (said with a smile for
those who don't). :)

I encourage you and others to use the Legacy "Suggest a new feature"
feature and ask the design team to include a File ID report sorted
alphabetically by LName/FName in their next update.  You might also
mention including on the report: LName, FName, FileID, Date, Caption,
Description.

Next, Nancy.  I would encourage you to abandon the use of last names in
your FileID reference.   FileIDs are intended for record filing, not
family association.  If the record you are filing is a birth record you
might consider using the prefix "D" for Document.  Then issuing it the
next number in your Document numbering sequence (for instance D0234).
That FileID is then attached to each person mentioned in the record.
When a FileID report is produced (sorted by FileID) it will list that
same FileID multiple times (for each individual the record pertains to).

If we also had an alphabetical FileID report we could also produce a
FileID report sorted by name.  With this you would find each individual
listed with however many FileIDs s/he had attached.  Thereby seeing all
the records you had on file for uncle Joe.

See my comments above regarding "Submit a new feature" in hopes that an
alphabetical ID report will be added in the next release.

Gary
Near St Louis MO USA 

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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] File IDs

Furthermore, it would be nice to be able to produce a list of every
individual with that File ID, or to produce a list of every File ID that
an
individual is on. I have not been able to get Legacy to do this.

Jim

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Subject: [LegacyUG] File IDs

I have been reading the messages about organizing files and using the
File 
ID field in Legacy. I have been using the File ID field but I have
noticed 
something that I have been curious about for awhile. If I have a
document 
that has more than one person's name (which many do), I enter the file
id as

something like SMITH001 for the first person I use it for. When I get to
the

next person, I find that same ID in the list and use it, but then when I

look again later, I see SMITH001 in the list twice. Why doesn't it
display 
like master sources and only show up once regardless of how many times
it is

used?

Thank you,
Nancy

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RE: [LegacyUG] Question about File Id and sourcing.

2007-01-03 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
I teach the use of categorizing before assigning File IDs.

Twelve categories work for me.  Less I feel is too disorganized.  More
becomes too unwieldy.  This has worked for 25 years.  I've been stumped
a few times--should it go here or there.  It happens.  It becomes a
judgment call.  And then there's the "other" category.  :)

Here's the list I follow:
B - Buildings/Landmarks/Monuments
C - Census Records
D - Documents
G - Directories
H - Heirlooms
K - Personal Knowledge
L - Correspondence
N - Newspaper
O - Other
P - Photograph
R - Recordings
X - Books/Periodicals

Each category has a short description to aid in determining the kinds of
records/items to be assigned.

Items are filed as they are discovered.  The first photograph I picked
up was assigned P0001, the first document was assigned D0001, and so on.

Each category receives its own designated/labeled filing area.  Two
4-drawer filing cabinets and a 5-shelf book rack contain most.  Some,
such as Heirlooms, are handled differently.  The File contains a photo
of the heirloom and where it is physically located.

I would place the items referred to in the email below in the D -
Documents category.  They could also fit into a category titled V -
Vital.  I prefer "Document" because I define Document in a broader
sense.  Joe Blow would become D0001, Amelia Carter D0002, Amelia Blow
D0003, Amelia and Joe Blow D0004.

The File ID assigned each item is entered in the appropriate Legacy File
ID location for each person mentioned in the record.  This is where a
tool such as the Legacy Picture Center is most handy.

Gary
Near St Louis MO USA

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Question about File Id and sourcing.

I can see the wisdom of using File Id's for each piece of documentation.
When sourcing each piece of documentation is it better to source each
piece 
separately
such as
NSW Birth Certificate of Joe Blow File Id B001
NSW Birth Certificate of Amelia Carter File Id B002
NSW Death Certificate of Amelia Blow File Id D001

or
general
NSW Birth Certificate then details Birth Certificate of Joe Blow file Id

B001

The second method gives you much less entries in the Master Source's
but is the first better for reports etc.
Regards
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RE: [LegacyUG] RE: One tested method of organizing files ...a bit more still

2007-01-03 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Sherry is absolutely correct, there is a FileID Report in Legacy Deluxe.

It only provides one format option--sorted by FileID number sequence.
For File IDs to be of complete use to those who file records according
to library standards, a sort should also be available in alphabetical
sequence (last name, first name).

The report should then list Last name, First name, FileID, Date,
Caption, and Description.

Please use the "Suggest a New Feature" feature to give the Legacy design
team your thoughts.

Gary
Near St Louis MO USA
 

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There is a FileID Report in Legacy Deluxe under the Books/Other section.

Thanks for using Legacy.

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Gary, Well said!!! I have been using this system for quite some time
(and
wrote about it in the Aug 2006 Legacy Newsletter
(http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2006/08/index.html)
And yes, I do join you in your wish for a File ID# report.

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RE: [LegacyUG] One tested method of organizing files ...a bit more still

2007-01-03 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson-Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara-
Jean's points are dead on.  Excerpts below.

Only one suggestion, assign records to categories before assigning File
Numbers.  Thus, census records would be C0001, newspaper articles would
be N0001, photographs would be P0001, and so on.  Just as would be done
in a library system.  I can provide more on categories if requested.

A record filing system is a record filing system.  It is a system for
filing and retrieving records.  Don't make it be something it's not,
it's not for people identification and association.  That's best handled
by programs like Legacy.

Please join me in lobbying Legacy to add a report for File Numbers
sorted alphabetically which would list LName, FName/MI, FileNumber,
Date, Caption, and Description.

Gary
Near St Louis MO USA


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"...I use the file it as I got it system which files sources once but is
referenced by all that use 
it."

"When I find a census record I print it out and file it with the next
number 
available sequencially (starting with 0001) in my binders and record
that 
number in the FILE ID on the source detail screen in Legacy. Then when
I'm 
asked a question about a source it takes me seconds to find it by going
to 
that person in my database and checking the source for the ID number.
Each 
person in the census gets this same source with the same FILE ID #, BUT
IT 
IS FILED ONCE."

"I am also a firm believer in keeping one database because I find that
we are 
all related."
Jean





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RE: [LegacyUG] One tested method of organizing files

2007-01-02 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson-Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara-
Back on the topic of organizing files--

I heartily agree with those who view making multiple copies of material
wasteful, time-consuming, space-consuming, and prone to errors.

For what it's worth I am defining "material" here as any hard copy item
be it photograph, letter, newspaper, recorded tape, map, form, etc. 

Legacy provides an excellent filing tool, the File ID.  If used properly
it can be as useful as the Dewey Decimal or Library of Congress filing
system at any public library.

The only shortcoming with the Legacy File ID process is its failure to
provide a File ID report sorted alphabetically by name.  The only File
ID report at this time is sorted sequentially by File ID number.  This
has been addressed with the Legacy design staff and an alphabetical name
sort will hopefully appear soon in future updates.

To quickly summarize my 30+ years of genealogy and professional file
system management--categorize your filing material, assign a File ID
number to each material item, note all who the material pertains to, and
record the File ID(s) in their genealogical record.

No multiple copies, no complex numbering system.  A simple cataloging
system from which material can easily be filed and retrieved.

Gary
Near St Louis MO USA




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[LegacyUG] Alpha Sort Showing File IDs

2006-12-29 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson-Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara-
Has anyone discovered a method to provide an alphabetical listing of all
individuals with a File ID number assigned?

Under [All Reports] [File ID] there is an option to print a File ID
report which lists Names, but no option to print a Names report which
lists File IDs.

This report would be useful when looking for or cross referencing
photographs with File IDs.  The report would show all individuals with
photographs (sorted alphabetically and displaying each File ID).

Perhaps a search method has been discovered under another search option
providing this search, sort and display feature.

Thanks
Gary
Near St Louis MO USA




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[LegacyUG] YIKES!! No Digest!!--Formerly: Recording Unknown Names of Children

2006-12-26 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson-Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara-
Thank you to Sharon, Wendy, Cathy, and Leo for responding to my request
for unknown name recording ideas.

Having just re-subscribed to this list after some months' absence, I
just learned there is no digest option.  I discovered this when no
reference to digest in the application instructions could be found.
After a quick keyword search of the archives,  question answered.
Apparently many, many others were also surprised to learn no digest mode
is available.

My infrequency in posting just doesn't justify wading through so many
individual emails; I'm unsubscribing and will revert back to scanning
the archives page.

Gary
Near St Louis MO USA







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[LegacyUG] Recording Unknown Names of Children

2006-12-25 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson-Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara-
I welcome recommendations on listing children when given names are not
known.

For instance, when it is known 8 children were born of a marriage, but
given names are only known for two.  How does one record the other 6?

Thanks
Gary
Near St Louis MO





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