Re: [neonixie-l] Re: G10/240E (STC) Nomotron added
No - there is no date code I could transcript. Dieter Excellent! Sure is nice to see them come alive again. Is there a date code on this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Re: Some 1 EUR auctions
I have started some 1 EUR Dekatron/Nomotron auctions:http://shop.ebay.de/merchant/smile-73 Is it just me, or is everything in German? I get the sense that I can bid on these and have items shipped to USA ? Check here: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/smile-73 Yes of course you can bid. Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] QS-9 Nixie tube?
Hi! Does anyon have data of the QS-9 Nixie tubes? Thanks! DIETER http://www.nocrotec.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: QS-9 Nixie tube?
Does anyon have data of the QS-9 Nixie tubes? Hmm never heard of it, where did you find it? Ok, you can forget that. I got an offer for some hundreds of these, but it turned out that the seller mixed someting up and these are VFD tubes with another type number. He meant YS13-3. Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Chinese Nixie Tube Data Book
Hi! I'm looking for that book you can see in many pictures at the web. Mostly on chinese Nixie tube pages. You know - that QS ans YS Nixie tube types. Can anyone help me to find it? Thanks Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Searching for data (QS/SZ) - PLEASE help
Michail, Yes, he made some... but he has only a few tubes left for spares. No problem by he way, I didn't take your question the wrong way. ;-) Dieter Dieter, No problem. I think you took my question the wrong way. I was simply asking if he sold them as I would like to get one. Since there was a picture of many circuit boards, it would give the impression that he had several made. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: ETL Tube Handbook on E-bay England
Thanks, Jon, I will correct that with the next update. DIETER http://www.nocrotec.com/ No. Actually the annotation on Dieter's website is not quite accurate. The book is nothing to do with Ericsson. Dieter's archive is a near- complete scan of Electronic Counting Circuits by J B Dance published by Iliffe Books in London in 1967. It's a very good read, and Dieter does us all a big favour by hosting the info - the book itself is very difficult to find. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] recommendation for anode resistor for 2x2 multiplexed IN-14s @166-170v?
Hello David, where have you found the factor 1.4 and what is your factor for 3x, 4x, 5x muxing? Dieter For 2x multiplexing, use about 1.4 times the recommended cathode current for continuous use. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] recommendation for anode resistor for 2x2 multiplexed IN-14s @166-170v?
Ah, ok. Thanks David I have built a µC controlled muxing tester... will put all about it on my homepage soon. I can switch from direct drive with rated current to muxed, with higher current and compare the glow. That makes it easy to find out the muxing current for a tube to get approx the same glow effect as in direct drive. But with 1.4 x rated currrent the glow looks a bit dimmed. That was why i asked. I'm working on a chart for these factors, but the problem is that it depends to the tube size also (I think)... I think a general factor is not easy to tell. If a primer is used, than everything changes again. Dieter It's an educated guess. I used 3x current for 6 way multiplexing in the clocks I made, so 1.4x seems reasonable for 2 way. It takes experimentation to find the best value, and there is a tradeoff of tube life vs brightness. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: recommendation for anode resistor for 2x2 multiplexed IN-14s @166-170v?
Yes, set it to 170VDC. Dieter Thanks... But again, what kind of voltage should I set the supply to? Many seemed to think that 170v was enough, but I guess not... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Looking vor many many +/- tubes with SK-207 base
Hi friends, I'm looking for many SK-207 base tubes with + and -. You know the SK-207 base: http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/data/soc/SK-207/SK-207.htm Who can help? Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] CD47 Clock preview
Hello Nixie friends, Thanks for all your requests to the CD47 Nixie clock project. I know I did not update my page since some years, but my (small) clock production took away all my spare time. To show you how far the project is here a short video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afTfavDE49c All the best Dieter PS: Same as for the CD47 clock applies to the Nixie watch. Not forgotton, but no time right now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CD47 Clock preview
See you have the microwave detector on the front - is that working ok? Yes, it alredy works. Presume you're using the big SMPS for this? No, the most power need the tubes. But the PSU is overdimensioned (of course - you know Germans like it overdimensioned) Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] IN-3 dot Nixie flickering experiences?
Hi! I have heared that some have experienced that the IN-3 might flicker when driven with a standard DC voltage. I haven't experienced, that, yet, but I want to make sure, that they work perfect, because I want to use them in one project. Has anyone experienced that the IN-3 do flicker? And: Who has experienced that the IN-3 do NOT flicker? DIETER http://www.nocrotec.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] IN-3 dot Nixie flickering experiences?
Dieter, some of them flicker, and some don't with DC voltage. It's more of a periodic pulsation, where the plasma moves back and forth around the cathode/anode. Some lamps don't do this at all, some do it after a few hours of being on. Gene Thanks Gene, that helps A LOT!!! Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IN-3 dot Nixie flickering experiences?
Hi Dieter, I used them in one project as a minor component. They were OK, but rather variable. I did not see flickering, but problems with the glow sometimes moving around slowly within the tube and sometimes getting fixed in odd places. Changing the current didn't help much, merely altered the size/intensity of the glow. It helps to get the polarity right (per discussion in other thread), but some IN-3 would just never behave well for me. Cheers, Jon. So now I am sure: these won't sit in the CD47 colon tubes. Thank you very much! Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Nixie Tube Tester
Hello Nixie-Friends, I have updated my Nixie tube tester-page. I finished the measuerment box (Case) - you must see it! Here the link: http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/different/nxtt/nxtt.htm All the best DIETER http://www.nocrotec.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] CD47 Nixie Clock Preview - Part 02
Hello Nixie Friends, Thanks for all your commetns about the CD47 Clock. Some of you wanted to see the Crossfading Mode and the separators in action. So here is a second little preiview. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGXpLvl8IXI I'm sorry for the bad quality - but it is only a preview. All the best DIETER http://www.nocrotec.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] IN-18 Nixie Tubes now in Shop
Hi Nixie Gang, I have the IN-18 Tubes, Colon Tubes, Sockets and other accessories now in the shop: http://www.nocrotec.com/shop/index.php/language/en/cat/c4_Nixie-Tubes-and-Sockets.html DIETER http://www.nocrotec.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Re: IN-18 Nixie Tubes now in Shop
Hello Congratulations, looks very nice. THX! May I ask how many IN-18 you got? Well, you may, but I don't know for sure how many I have. Let's say - enough for the next clock series. Are they being made now in Ukraine? Of course not. Last were made - I think 1993 or 94 - not sure maybe other members know. Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] IN-16 Nixie tube page updated
Hi! Some new pictures of the IN-16 added with blue bottom lighting. Also see the nixe closeu-ps. And some new data. Check here: http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/nixie-news.htm DIETER http://www.nocrotec.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Mammoth Project: E1T Clock FINISHED after 8 years!
Hello Nixie Friends, This evening I have finally finished one of my mammoth projects: The E1T clock. I hope you enjoy: http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/different/e1t-clock/e1t.htm All the best DIETER -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Re: Mammoth Project: E1T Clock FINISHED after 8 years!
Awesome! This was on my long long term list of projects to do - it's great to see it done so nicely. Is the display brightness enough to make a practical clock? Jon. Hello Jon and all other who asked: Yes the brighness is enough. This clock is only a unique specimen. I have not intended to build more since production costs are high and my E1T tubes stock is not very high. But I can sell AVR controllers and tubes for the clock and send the eagle files for all who want to build it. I also can send drawings for the clock if anyone is interested. Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Mammoth Project: E1T Clock FINISHED after 8 years!
Beautiful! Would you consider posting a video clip of it in operation? At the moment I have too much to do on aother Nixie project, but with the next video session I can take one. Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Nixie tube type 16845247
Hi! Does anyone have information about this type? Thanks Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie tube type 16845247
Am 05.05.2011 05:44, schrieb A.J. Franzman: On May 3, 2:16 pm, Dieter Waechteri...@nocrotec.com wrote: Does anyone have information about this type (16845247)? The only possibly related info I have is concerning the similarly- CUT Thanks AJ for the information. In the meantime I got some pictures of the B-16845247. Yes, it is a SK-207 side view Burroughs Tube with 0-9, PL, PR. Leads are 2 inches. Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Re: OT: Shipping USA to Germany
I don't know why US seller want such extremely high prices for Nixie tubes and other stuff. So buying there has become difficult. Maybe I should tell additionally, that I'm very happy about that prices for Nixie stuff are very high in USA. You know, I have many many buyers in USA ;-) - so what I said was NOT meant in a negative way. People in USA are friendly and kind. I just wanted to tell that the prices are high in USA. Nothing more. Sorry. Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CD47 - new price record?
Well, I followed the prices for years. I remember the day when I bought one CD47 for exaclty 25 EUR. I believe that in 3-5 years the price will have been doubled the price now. I am sure it will raise over 1000 EUR the next year. Price will crash! Yes, but it will crash up, not crash down. Dieter - Original Message - From: jb-electronics To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CD47 - new price record? Let's face it, this was crazy. I went along till 400EUR, but that was it, the tube is neither new nor proved to be functionary. I remember that in 2006 there were 7 CD47s sold on German Ebay for 2000EUR, and back then I tought that was expensive... What's your opinion, I think the Nixie market is just about to crash ;-) Jens Am 01.06.2011 23:19, schrieb Dieter Waechter: What should I take for a clock with 6 NIB CD47 - say in 2 years ??? Dieter (shaking his head, but grins) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CD47 - new price record?
No, If someone would copy a Wurlitzer Juekbox (same compexity than making nixie tubes) do you think the price of a real Wurlitzer will change? Dieter - Original Message - From: Nicholas Stock To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 11:32 PM Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CD47 - new price record? Somebody needs to start making these again.then the market will crash! Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CD47 - new price record?
;-) Yeah! that's right. But if 1000 CD47 would be on the market, I would buy them in one lot. ;-) Dieter - Original Message - From: Nicholas Stock To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 11:43 PM Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CD47 - new price record? I'll agree to disagree with you Dieterscarcity plays a role in price, the less-scarce the item, the cheaper it becomes. Put 1000 new Rodan CD-47's on the market at once and suddenly your asking price will drop. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CD47 - new price record?
What would you say if I would be the SELLER? ;-) - Original Message - From: Nicholas Stock To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 11:47 PM Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CD47 - new price record? So would I! ;-) Good call. Nick On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Dieter Waechter i...@nocrotec.com wrote: ;-) Yeah! that's right. But if 1000 CD47 would be on the market, I would buy them in one lot. ;-) Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CD47 - new price record?
Yeah! that's right. But if 1000 CD47 would be on the market, I would buy them in one lot. ;-) ... and then you'd have twice as many as you do now, right? ;-) A.J. No, I wouldn't -unfortunately ;-( All sources I knew are sold out now. But at the moment I concentrate on small nixies. I have found out that I like the small more than the large... suddenly ... I don't know why. I never took much care of them - but since I made the Little Blue Something clock (with Claus Urbach) I have changed my minds. Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CD47 - new price record?
Out curiosity, do you think that this zeal to purchase rare tubes extends to the similarly-rare F9020AA? We may see a bunch of them becoming available on ebay soon, owing to the recent discovery of a large lot at an estate sale. I don't know - but the tastes differ! I - for example - don't like the flat shape of the F9020AA. These are mor for collecting than making a clock with them (in my mind) - so I would not pay more than 50 EUR each. But I know - others will pay much much more. Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Re: B7971's for sale (again)
Of the shipments I received, I lost about 20, but he always packed extra to account for wastage. http://www.desmith.net/NMdS/Nixies/DSCN1855.JPG Yes, the newspaper was the only packing - the tubes were close packed in pathetic boxes in batches of 100 or so. It almost made me weep. Some years ago I also have received a package with 300 B-7971 tubes. about 150 were broken. The look was exactly the same as your picture. They were wapped in newspapers, and then glass on glass in boxes without any padding material - and then shipped over the ocean from USA to Germany. TERRIBLE! (I got no ferfund at all from the seller!) Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie tube photographing
Lots of speculation on the blue dot. I don't think anyone has come up with an absolutely answer. Just guessing, etc. Yes of course. There is only one right answer. http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/data/in18.htm The blus spot is the mercury glowing if Ucc is too low. All you need to do is drive the tubes without applying an Ucc at all. Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie tube photographing
Thanks for the possible explanation Dieter. Does this fit with the fact that the same tube shows the same defect on just one digit in multiple different IN-18 clocks? First: Note that it is NOT a defect. It is a wrong driver circuit. The mistake is made by the circuit designer, not by the tube. Now the answer: Yes and no. If you try the same tube in a correct designed clock (nixiechron, or nocrotec IN-18 clocks for example) 100% no IN-18 will show a blue spot. But, another mistake always is made with the IN-18 tubes. This is the rated current. To get a real high definition readout and the magic purple haze the tubes MUST be driven with 6mA, what is the REAL rated current of IN-18 tubes. And of course they should not be multiplexed. The only clocks I know ad hoc wich drive them without multiplex, without Ucc and with 6mA are the Chronotronix IN-18-V2, the Nocrotec IN-18-V3 and the soon coming clock kits: IN-18-V4 and V5. But I'm sure there are some other clocks out there. So be careful: a blue spot means that the driver circuit IS WRONG! Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie tube photographing
That's good to know. I'll try the offending tube in my Nixiechron to see if the blue spot dares to show it's ugly face! It can not appear there, since Jeff does not apply any Ucc. The cathodes are switched from 170V to zero. He uses real high voltage supertex drivers, no clamped drivers (like 74141 are, for example). I hope you have not changed the circuitry, Jeff ;-) Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie tube photographing
But Michail, If you want the blue spot on every IN-18 just clamp to a lower Ucc If it appears or not depends to the mercury amount in the tube and the Ucc voltage level. That's all. You also can fade in and out the blue spot if you like... no problem. When I have time I take a short video with my Nixie Tube Tester. My tester has an adjustable Ucc as you surely know, and by adjusting it the blue spot fades in, and out, and dissapears. This does not only work with IN-18 tubes, also with some other mercury filled tubes. Dieter Am 15.07.2011 17:47, schrieb micha...@aol.com: Ugly? Dude, it's beautiful. :) PS. If it was a circuit problem, then why do about 20% of the tubes have this issue/benefit? Anyone has a blue dot tube that they don't want, please send to me. I would be happy to care for it. :) Michail Wilson 206-920-6312 In a message dated 7/15/2011 8:42:41 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, nickst...@gmail.com writes: That's good to know. I'll try the offending tube in my Nixiechron to see if the blue spot dares to show it's ugly face! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie tube photographing
If it is the circuit that causes the problem, then why do some tubes exhibit this and other don't. As I said: because of the amount of mercury. Some tubes have more, some have less mercury. That's all. Some have such less, that also if you go down to 40 Volts Ucc the spot does not appear. Jürgen has found one example on which they have forgotton to heat the giver pill and this example had no mercury at all. Unfortunately Jürgen heated it up, without taking a picture of the full pill. Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Help with tube bases please...
No no, thanos, but these are all extremely rare Display tubes, no vacuum tubes and you can not find datasheets there or anywhere else. Dieter - Original Message - From: JohnK yend...@internode.on.net To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Help with tube bases please... Dieter, I have just looked in the Electronic Tubes and Semiconductor Elements Universal Vade Mecum vol 1 by Piotr Mikolajczyk, 1960 and quite a few are listed. BTW, a lot of the book is also at Frank's site:- http://www.tubedata.org/ Just to check... these are tubes for radio etc, not Nixies? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] E1T clock
Very nice clock! Can you recommend a socket for the E1Ts? Here: http://snipurl.com/223t0pg Dieter Check my E1T clock here also: http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/different/e1t-clock/e1t.htm Sockets for it are these: http://snipurl.com/223t15e Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] IN-18 Blue Dream Nixie Clock available now!!!
Hello Nixie Friends, The new IN-18 Blue Dream Nixie Clock is finally available. http://snipurl.com/224752n I hope you like it and its great new features. Thanks for all comments. All the best DIETER http://www.nocrotec.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IN-18 Blue Dream Nixie Clock available now!!!
Hi Jeff, It looks like you mix it up with the IN-18 clocks sold from nixieclock.net, right? I never have sold a IN-18 Clock to USA. But yes, the Menu structure is competely different and all customers who use it tell that it is very good to use. Dieter Great Dieter, Easy Menu System developed by Nocrotec. Not parameter controlled user menu (like all other Nixie clocks), but interactive intelligent user menu controlled by simple 3-button operation I hope this indicates you have resolved the menu assignment of your earlier IN-18 clock model. I'd graciously repaired two IN-18 clocks for your US customers, and they'd both commented that programming an old VCR clock -blindfolded, was easier. ;) Regards, Jeff Hello Nixie Friends, The new IN-18 Blue Dream Nixie Clock is finally available.http://snipurl.com/224752n I hope you like it and its great new features. Thanks for all comments. All the best DIETERhttp://www.nocrotec.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] IN-18 Blue Dream Nixie Clock available now!!!
Hello Michail, Unfortunately, spending $850 on a IN-18 clock is outside of my realm. Check your maths US$197.98 + US$470.67 = US$668.65 It looks like you have calculated something wrong. (maybe incl VAT?!?!?) PS. Had issues trying to actually get pricing through the website. When I look for clock, it shows cost of $0.00. Even reselected US dollar. Added to cart. No no. Where you were is the information site only. scroll down and read how to get the right parts. You need to order from me: http://snipurl.com/2248nvp and from claus: http://snipurl.com/2248o3k Very easy - try again. Dieter - Original Message - From: micha...@aol.com To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] IN-18 Blue Dream Nixie Clock available now!!! Dieter, Beautiful clock. Unfortunately, spending $850 on a IN-18 clock is outside of my realm. Looks great though. :) PS. Had issues trying to actually get pricing through the website. When I look for clock, it shows cost of $0.00. Even reselected US dollar. Added to cart. Went to look for case (must buy tubes with it - uhhg), and it had shown US dollar amount, but when adding to cart (trying to find shipping amount), that it was a cart on the website, instead of the paypal cart that was used for the clock kit itself. So, I thought the item was deleted and went back to add clock, which then had shown 2 clock kits and no case/bulb. :( I gave up realizing it was too expensive for me anyway. Still, looks great though. Michail In a message dated 2/8/2012 12:00:19 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, i...@nocrotec.com writes: Hello Nixie Friends, The new IN-18 Blue Dream Nixie Clock is finally available. http://snipurl.com/224752n I hope you like it and its great new features. Thanks for all comments. All the best DIETER http://www.nocrotec.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] IN-18 Blue Dream Nixie Clock available now!!!
HI Dan. But there doesn't seem to be any way to order it. There's no option to add to cart, and price is 0,00 EUR. Where you were is the information site only. scroll down and read how to get the right parts. You need to order from me: http://snipurl.com/2248nvp and from claus: http://snipurl.com/2248o3k Very easy - try again. Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] IN-18 Blue Dream Nixie Clock available now!!!
Hello Michael, ah OK. You have added the VAT. But VAT will not apply - since you are outside the EU, right? Read at all my pages: Note: The price for this article is 19% less (no VAT) for customers outside the European Union (USA, Switzerland, Australia, Asia, ...) Please register or log in to get the correct prices displayed at all pages! Now clear? Dieter - Original Message - From: micha...@aol.com To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] IN-18 Blue Dream Nixie Clock available now!!! So, I have to order from two different places. That explains the two different cart issues. You need to order from me: http://snipurl.com/2248nvp US$ 560.10 (incl. 19 % VAT) excl. Shipping costsa href=http://www.nocrotec.com/shop/popup_content.php/coID/1target=_blank;Shipping costs/a | Shipping weight: 1.10 kg and from claus: http://snipurl.com/2248o3k 179,00 EUR (incl. 19% tax excl. Shipping costs) 179e = 237dollar That's $797 already. I just figured out $50 shipping. So, even with your links, I am still seeing $850 This is not a complaint. I am just letting you know that dealing with the site, different carts put a bad taste in my mouth. Basically a hint that when I want to buy something, I don't want to have to deal with multiple issues/sites just trying to get my cart loaded to pay. Just a suggesting that it be made easier. If I wanted my wife (so to speak) to buy it for me, she would have given up long before I did and just told me to buy it myself. Most people want a flat option: product, price, add to cart, pay. Michail In a message dated 2/8/2012 1:19:43 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, i...@nocrotec.com writes: HI Dan. But there doesn't seem to be any way to order it. There's no option to add to cart, and price is 0,00 EUR. Where you were is the information site only. scroll down and read how to get the right parts. You need to order from me: http://snipurl.com/2248nvp and from claus: http://snipurl.com/2248o3k Very easy - try again. Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IN-18 Blue Dream Nixie Clock available now!!!
OK, you are right, it's a matter of taste. Dieter I'd have to disagree with you there Dieter, nothing wrong with acrylic cases for IN-18 clocks.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IN-18 Blue Dream Nixie Clock available now!!!
Thanks for your words, Jeff. All of us in out little Nixie family inspire each other. Dieter Although I concurr that Dieters work is pricey amongst the herd, he's shown the best packaging ingenuity of the lot. Spanning the market evolution since '04. In spite of that high cost, he obviously moves a lot of these. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: two versions of Z566M ?
Ah i see, do you have photos of those? Id really love to see them! No sorry. Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: two versions of Z566M ?
Ah, ok. And is there a chance youll be able to take some pics? No sorry, too much orders at the moment. No time. Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: two versions of Z566M ?
The triangle is a very very important sign for Nixie tube collectors. in short: No trinangle: pilot lot (rare tube) 1 in triangle: quality category 1 (best quality) 2 in triangle: quality category 2 (low quality) = in triangle: bad tolerances (only for no-name products ect.) S in triangle: special release There are some more interesting signs - I will explain later in a special article in cooperation with Jens. Dieter - Original Message - From: kay486 luckyl...@gmail.com To: neonixie-l neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:28 PM Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: two versions of Z566M ? btw, do you know why some of the Z566M tubes has the yellow triangle with round corners stamped at back? Does it mean something or its just sign of earlier/later series? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: two versions of Z566M ?
No poroblem man. But whats the triangle without a number and that another triples? Means also pilot lot. Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: two versions of Z566M ?
Is this numbering system just for Z566M type tubes or does it apply to other WF ones as well? Dioes apply to others as well. Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Question on haze around nixie digit
The purple, pinkish or peachy haze comes from the different additional gases and the mercury inside the tube. You may find out from the spectrum (in some cases) what mixture is in the tube. Second, the lower the Ucc (cold cathode voltage) the higher the haze. And the more blurred the glow. IN extreme cases (Ucc too low) the haze become ghost spots in the tube (known as the blue spot problem at IN-18 tubes) To get a high definition readout, ot the best you can get out of the tube, drive it without Ucc in direct drive. Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Question on haze around nixie digit
Hi! What I mean is: To get a high definition readout and the best you can get out of the tube, drive it without Ucc AND drive it with direct drive. Dieter This confuses me a bit, I thought you promoted your new clock as being direct drive and now you say you get the best results without direct drive. Am I missing something? Michel On Feb 16, 3:42 pm, Dieter Waechteri...@nocrotec.com wrote: To get a high definition readout, ot the best you can get out of the tube, drive it without Ucc in direct drive. Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Question on haze around nixie digit
Ucc? Is that a new invention? Cheers, Frank Hi Frank, yes. Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Question on haze around nixie digit
Thanks Dave, ;-) No problem, I'm far above any childish comments. I forgot the U is not so well known at Neonixie. U = the formula symbol according to DIN 1304 for the Voltage. Dieter Don't know who is worse here. Dieter for first stating 'Ucc' (I think maybe we are talking Vcc?) Regardless Ucc had been taken to mean something cold cathode voltage Have you not bothered to read the entire thread? Me for repeating the same (or maybe just being naive) Or 3 useless replies 2 of which are sarcastic, and one mocking the 'Invention' word which I thought we had finished with! Do you not wish to help anyone out? Do you not have anything to add, informational or knowledgeable wise? If not why answer? Just to mock? And I notice you did not jump all over Deiter when he said Second, the lower the Ucc (cold cathode voltage) the higher the haze Talk about childish! Sorry I posted. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Question on haze around nixie digit
The voltage measured from GND to the switched off cathodes. At dircet drive, the Ukk is equal to Ua (Ua = Va = Up = Vp = Anode voltage = Supply voltage = Plate voltage) Not necessarily - if you're direct driving them with 74141 chips, Ucc would be about 60 volts, and with K155ID1 chips, about 100 volts. Aside from those, yes, the off cathodes would be allowed by most drivers to float, and they'd tend to float to the anode voltage (which isn't always the supply voltage, but the maintaining voltage if another cathode is lit and there is an anode resistor). I realize that's pretty pedantic of me, but it's easy to get confused about what your circuit is actually doing unless you're aware of these various effects. Oh yes John, thanks for that comment. You are right of course. I must clarify again: (note that this is my own language ;-) - For the ones who don't like it - please tell me how you would name it, or ignore it) a) When I speak of direct drive I always mean 1 high voltage transistor for each cathode, without any Zener diodes. b) When I speak of clamped direct drive I mean 1 low voltage transistor for each cathode, with Zener diodes for clamping. (74141 ect.) c) When I speak of multiplex drive I mean 1 high voltage transistor for each cathode group, without any Zener diodes, multiplexed d) When I speak of clamped multiplex drive I mean 1 low voltage transistor for each cathode group, with Zener diodes for clamping, multiplexed (74141 multiplexed for example - the worst drive ever) Note that this is all not valid for biquinary Nixie tubes of course, but for standard nixie tubes Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] E1T Clock Software package available now
Hi! For all who asked me for the Software Package for the E1T clock. I have it available now (for sale) here: http://www.nocrotec.com/shop/product_info.php/language/en/info/p132_E1T-Clock---Software-package.html DIETER -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Nimo 6100-92-0005
Hi Gang, What characters do the Nimos 6100-92-0005 and 6100-92-0006 display? can you help me? Thanks Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] IN-8-2 pages updated and IN-8-2 Blue Dream Nixie Clock Kit available!
Hi! Topic says it all. See here: http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/nixie-news.htm Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] NIMO Datasheets
Hi Gang, I'm looking for NIMO datasheets. You know I have already collected these: http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/dat_arch/BA-P31.pdf http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/dat_arch/IEE_Nimo_808.pdf http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/dat_arch/IEE_Nimo_6500.pdf http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/dat_arch/XM1000.pdf Who can help? Thanks Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Attention! Be careful - Nixie tube cheaters!
This is why everyone should buy IN-18 tubes from super-gene in Los Angeles! ~ :D What ??? No, I'm sure this is not right! I have asked you about 5 times, but you did not even make me an offer!!! Dieter - Original Message - From: Gene Segal wavefr...@earthlink.net To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Attention! Be careful - Nixie tube cheaters! This is why everyone should buy IN-18 tubes from super-gene in Los Angeles! ~ :D Dieter, I suffered the same fate as you, although I had a prior transaction with Vogavoga beforehand that went smoothly. EBay refunded the money no problem. Nick Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2012, at 2:23, Dieter Waechter i...@nocrotec.com wrote: Hi Nixie Friends! I must warn you of the following persons who offered me IN-18 Nixie tubes, which I paid, but never received. They did not answer me, although I was waiting for more than one month. And more: I saw they sell further at ebay, but do not answer any requests from me also if asked over Ebay. One of the gangsters called me, but now that telephone numbers are dead. The data of the persons are: Ebay ID: vogavoga Email addresses they use: pbog...@gmail.com voga_v...@yahoo.com raul_f...@yahoo.com pbog...@googlemail.com sa...@vogavoga.com aleksand...@ukr.net Names Adresses they use: Raul Frey, 45 Esquire Drv., 90245 CA, USA, Phone : +1-2069059585, +44(0)2069059585, Fax : +1 555 3653, Webpage: http://vogavoga.com Notes: Fax number is fake. 555 prefix is always on the movies as a fake phone number. Main number is 206, which is a Seattle, WA phone number google maps: There is no such address as: 45 Esquire Drive, El Segundo, CA 90245 Actually, there is not even an Esquire Drive, Blvd, Street, Ave, or Court in El Segundo. Registrant: Aleksandra Manilova, Poliakova 3a, flat 111, Zaporozhye, Zaporizka obl 69098, Ukraine, aleksand...@ukr.net, Phone: +380662733023 Other Names and addresses they use: Kostyantyn Shugaylo, Lenina ave.149, flat.74, 69035 Zaporizhie, Ukraine Piotr Bogdal, unkown address, Poland Be careful! Do not buy from them! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: I'm make a NEO-5000 PCB
OK thanks. AJ, can you tell us where you have found this? Can you send me a datasheet? Thanks Dieter - Original Message - From: Bob Armstrong b...@sparetimegizmos.com To: neonixie-l neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 10:21 PM Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: I'm make a NEO-5000 PCB On Mar 26, 1:09 pm, Dieter Waechter i...@nocrotec.com wrote: HI! Would you or AJ send me the data please? All I have is this - http://www.tubeclockdb.com/planar-neon-displays/171-neo5000-plasma-digit.html Bob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Cathode equalizing resistors?
Well, the higher the anode voltage you use, the less important are the equalizing resistors. For the CD47 250V are recommended at the datasheet, and this voltage equalizes the cathode current automtically. Dieter - Original Message - From: mar...@jave.de To: neonixie-l neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 11:35 PM Subject: [neonixie-l] Cathode equalizing resistors? Hi, I stumbled across cathode equalizing resistors in the GR10G datasheet (http://www.jb-electronics.de/html/elektronik/nixies/ n_gr10g.htm?lang=en). They say 8k2 and 4k7 resistors are required to account for the smaller size of 1 and 7. Have you seen equalizing resistors mentioned for other tubes than the GR10G? Although I have never read about those in other datasheets or web sites about nixies, to me equalizing resistors sound like a very good idea. I guess they will increase tube live and I think I will add them in case I ever build driver boards for my CD47s or Z5680Ms. Regards Markus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] ATTENTION!!!! NEW NIXIE TUBE CHEATERS
Hi! Be aware of the following Person who sells IN-18 tubes but does not ship!!! Ebay ID: gennadiy.yakimovsky Name: Gennadiy Yakimovskiy City: Perm Street: Tumakova 95 Country: Russian Federation ZIP: 615315 Of course these data are fake. It looks like he is part of the cheater gang from Ukrain. Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Attention!! NEW Nixie tube cheater at Ebay!!!
Hi! I must warn you of another seller who offers IN-18 Nixie tubes cheap but does never ship!!! Ebay ID: petrovpavel1009 All other data: unknown DO NOT BUY FROM HIM I guess he is part of the Ukrain Nixie cheater mafia!! Dieter PS: please also note the following warnings: Hi! Be aware of the following Person who sells IN-18 tubes but does not ship!!! Ebay ID: gennadiy.yakimovsky Name: Gennadiy Yakimovskiy City: Perm Street: Tumakova 95 Country: Russian Federation ZIP: 615315 Of course these data are fake. It looks like he is part of the cheater gang from Ukrain. Dieter And this one: Attention! Be careful - Nixie tube cheaters! Hi Nixie Friends! I must warn you of the following persons who offered me IN-18 Nixie tubes, which I paid, but never received. They did not answer me, although I was waiting for more than one month. And more: I saw they sell further at ebay, but do not answer any requests from me also if asked over Ebay. One of the gangsters called me, but now that telephone numbers are dead. The data of the persons are: Ebay ID: vogavoga Email addresses they use: pbogdal (at) gmail.com voga_voga (at) yahoo.com raul_frey (at) yahoo.com pbogdal (at) googlemail.com sales (at) vogavoga.com aleksandrar (at) ukr.net Names Adresses they use: Raul Frey, 45 Esquire Drv., 90245 CA, USA, Phone : +1-2069059585, +44(0)2069059585, Fax : +1 555 3653, Webpage: http://vogavoga.com Notes: Fax number is fake. 555 prefix is always on the movies as a fake phone number. Main number is 206, which is a Seattle, WA phone number google maps: There is no such address as: 45 Esquire Drive, El Segundo, CA 90245 Actually, there is not even an Esquire Drive, Blvd, Street, Ave, or Court in El Segundo. Registrant: Aleksandra Manilova, Poliakova 3a, flat 111, Zaporozhye, Zaporizka obl 69098, Ukraine, aleksandrar (at) ukr.net, Phone: +380662733023 Other Names and addresses they use: Kostyantyn Shugaylo, Lenina ave.149, flat.74, 69035 Zaporizhie, Ukraine owner of flat is: Артемова Н.В Ленина Пр., дом 149, кв. 74 Artemova N.V., Lenina ave.149, flat. 74 Phone: +380612348803 Piotr Bogdal, unkown address, Poland Unona Oliynik, 12 aprelia, 69035 Zaporizhie, Ukraine Be careful! Do not buy from them! Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Attention!!! Another Nixie tube Cheater now at Alibaba!!!
Hi Nixie Friends! Be also aware of the follwing seller at Alibaba: http://www.alibaba.com/member/ua106083414.html Another cheater! I must tell you whenever you get offers from unknown persons by email or phone for IN-18, IN-14 and other russian tubes YOU BETTER DECLINE at the moment! Many cheaters are around! D. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] B13B Nixie tube socket with floor lighting now available
Hi! For all who asked me for a B13B tube socket with floor lighting... here it is: For international: http://snipurl.com/22yh2ig For European Union: http://snipurl.com/22yh2fm All the best Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] B13B Nixie tube socket with floor lighting now available
I forgot: Cheaper here of course: http://snipurl.com/22yh49y Dieter Hi! For all who asked me for a B13B tube socket with floor lighting... here it is: For international: http://snipurl.com/22yh2ig For European Union: http://snipurl.com/22yh2fm All the best Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Clock vs Raytheon CK1916 tubes
It's a well known problem with the 1916's. I have about 500 NIB, and most of them show that problem. Most need a high firing voltage (200 V and up) and some are completely dead. The only thing I can imagine is gas leakage. I have experienced that problem on some other American made tubes, but oddly ONLY at American made tubes (I recall National and Raytheon). Dieter On Monday, 9 April 2012 08:17:46 UTC+1, Matthew wrote: Glad to find this group again... a few years since I did any of this stuff, before the move to Google Groups! I'm working on a couple of clocks, based on Jonas's kit at TubeHobby.com. I really like the kit, having made two before - it's documented for IN-14 and IN-18 tubes, but mine were with IN-12 and IN-16, both working well without any modifications (other than physical). This time I'm trying to make one with come CK1916 tubes I found on eBay - they are very attractive. However, when wired up, they just don't seem to fire at all :( I found the following datasheet on Dieter's site: http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/dat_arch/Raytheon-data.pdf and they seem to have similar specs to the Russian tubes, but I'm having no luck so far. Does anyone have any experience with these tubes, or any ideas? If I sound clueless, it's because I am :) I'm more into making the cases than understanding the electronics! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] looking for Weston: Cold cathode glow discharge tubes
Hi! I have the original book and a DVD with a scan of the book. Contact me outside: i...@nocrotec.com Please note that the original book is not cheap. Dieter Am 10.04.2012 14:46, schrieb Dalibor Farnı: Hello guys, I am looking for the book from G.F. Weston,Cold cathode glow discharge tubes, 1968, but it is (surprisingly) sold out everywhere ;-) is there someone so kind to provide me a PDF or some other ebook? Thank You! Dalibor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] A-107 Datesheets
Hi! I'm looking for A-107 datasheets. I have the data in a databook, but I'm looking for the datasheet which came with the tubes as single papers. Can anyone help? Thanks Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] IN-18 Blue Dream Nixie Clock Review
Hi! The IN-18 Blue Dream Nixie Clock Review is out! Watch it! http://vimeo.com/40193867 Thanks to Brain! ;-) Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Attention!! NEW Nixie tube cheater at Ebay!!!
Ccay you tell us the Ebay ID and all other data please? Thanks Dieter - Original Message - From: Tony Adams sa...@amt-electronics.com To: neonixie-l neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 3:13 AM Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: Attention!! NEW Nixie tube cheater at Ebay!!! Over the last few months I have bought a number of parcels of IV11s from an ebay seller who regularly posts them in lots of 100. They arrived well packed and without difficulties so I had no worries when asked to buy a batch directly. I bought 2 further parcels through ebay after that direct purchase which arrived OK but no sign of the batch bought directly. I opened a paypal case and was told it would be sorted out 'we have traded many times trust us' so I let the claim lapse. Of course nothing arrived and requests for tracking numbers for that parcel have been unanswered so I'm out of pocket for 100x IV11 tubes. I've also now been blocked from bidding on their items which has the effect of preventing me contacting the seller through ebay. Very disappointing as it was such a small purchase, why bother doing that for less than $80?.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Russian and Ukrain fellows please help
Hi Russian and Ukrain Nixie friends! Can you help me to find out what databook that is: http://www.kolbasers.ru/agregat/208/30/index.shtml Maybe someone knows a djvu source. Plase help. Thanks Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Watch First Glimpse
Very well done Michel!!! Am 20.04.2012 08:26, schrieb Cobra007: Second glimpse of the Nixie Watch. cut -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Watch First Glimpse
Oh yes, I like them most of all SK-207 base Nixie tubes. Best choice for a watch in this size I would say. Hope you know someone who has a good stock of these ;-) Dieter Am 20.04.2012 10:33, schrieb Cobra007: Thanks Dieter, do the tubes look almost as nice as your blue dream clocks? ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Russian Book wanted
Hi friends, I'm looking for the russian book: Яблонский, Ф.М.; Янкин, Г.М. Декатроны Издательство: М.: Энергия Переплет: мягкий; 192 страниц; 1967 г. Язык: русский translation: Yablonsky, FM, Younkin, GM decatrons Publisher: Moscow: Energiya Binding: soft, 192 pages, 1967 Language: Russian djvu would be great! can anyone help with that? Thanks Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Z5660M page updated
Hi! I made some new pictures and updated the Z5660M page: http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/nixie-news.htm Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Z566M page updated
Hi! I made some new pictures and updated the Z566M page: http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/nixie-news.htm Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] IN-4 Variations
Dieter, you never saw my IN-18 clock then, because I think I got it right and I made that clock years ago. Yeah John!!! that's it! I have seen it but never realized the (right) pinout on it. I love that design by the way. Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] LC-631 (Unitra Dolam) Version 1 Nixie tube added
Hi Gang! I have added the LC-631 (Unitra Dolam) Version 1 Nixie tube: http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/nixie-news.htm Check out that great tube!!! I love it! (�`.._..疮`.._..-DIETER-.._..疮`.._..疮) http://www.nocrotec.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] LC-631 (Unitra Dolam) Version 2 Nixie tube added
Hi Gang! I have added the LC-631 (Unitra Dolam) Version 2 Nixie tube to my page: http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/nixie-news.htm DIETER http://www.nocrotec.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Attention!! NEW Nixie tube cheater at Ebay!!!
Also, Dieter: On May 16 you have warned us about this seller. But they started at Ebay only one day earlier on May 15! How comes? What am I missing? Well, you see I am well-informed about that very quickly. The reason is that I have friends in Russia and Ukrain. And I think I know all important tube sellers there. All of those are honest people, and they know abut the new scam coming up with Nixie tubes. The sellers already know that this is poison for their business and they claim it aswell. One of these looks like he knows more about that - and he immediately informs me about new actions of the gang. I'm counting on all honest Ukrain sellers - and I hope they will help me stopping the gang. It must be done from there - not from outside. I can't tell you more about it, since I'm not sure who is listening here. Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Attention!! NEW Nixie tube cheater at Ebay!!!
Hi! Paypal will only be able to take the money back if it is still in the account. Are you sure? I think they can take the money back. If there is no balance in the account, and Paypal decides to refund to the buyer, the balance of the receiver will get negative. Am I right? So, such a scam works in that he sells item. You pay for it. He pulls money out. A month later, you realize you aren't getting product, so you file a claim. Judgement is in your favor, but unfortunately, there is no money to get back. So, you win, but get nothing. Can anyone confirm that? This is not to say that the seller could get a tracking number on a shipment to you with an empty box. I have had this happen a few times as well. Paypal simply denied my claim, but at least I got a couple of pretty boxes which are empty. Many possible scams. I can also not confirm that. I have had a broken Super high voltage power supply with a small defect. I proofed it with a video, and got back half of the money of my own estimation of what the unit is worth with the defect. If an empty box would have been sent (never had that) - I think Paypal surey would refund. The trick of the gangsters is different (see my recent emails for the explination) Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Attention!! NEW Nixie tube cheater at Ebay!!!
Thanks Michail, that was very informative! - Original Message - From: micha...@aol.com To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Attention!! NEW Nixie tube cheater at Ebay!!! snip -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Attention!! NEW Nixie tube cheater at Ebay!!!
- You can't have a negative balance. Michail, it looks loke you are wrong (not sure)... but many notes at the internet tell that a negtive balance is possible. Look one example here: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=585995 Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Attention!! NEW Nixie tube cheater at Ebay!!!
Hi! My point is that YOU (as a seller) will NOT get the money. Well, but I am the buyer I can create a second email account. aol/yahoo/gmail, etc. Use a stolen credit card, buy a clock from you. 2 months later, a charge back happens from the CC company to paypal. Paypal then charges against the account. The fake paypal account is then stopped, but you can't collect because it would have been from a stolen card (chargeback) - This is why bitcoin is being saught after. Even dwolla payments now have chargebacks (they changed their TOS because they used to say no chargebacks). Hm. I had this case also (here as a seller), and the Paypal seller protection gave me back the money, since I sent the package registered, to a confirmed Address, within the given time period. But I know - you are right - if one of these 3 things do not apply, Paypal will not give you back the money. Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Attention!! NEW Nixie tube cheater at Ebay!!!
OK, then we got it now: We issued a refund from your account to cover a buyer complaint. That is what I meant first. Dieter - Original Message - From: micha...@aol.com To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 12:37 AM Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Attention!! NEW Nixie tube cheater at Ebay!!! Issue is we are comparing legit negative balance to scam negative balance. A scammed negative doesn't matter. The person scammed can't collect from a scammer. Like Jens said. He bought ebay stuff. Now, if he didn't wire money into his account (if he was a scammer), he still would have received the stuff he bought on ebay, and not have paid anything. Those people would have been scammed. Paypal would have taken the money back from them. They would not have the product or the money. Michail Your PayPal account can have a negative balance if: a.. You tried to make a payment with your bank account, but the payment didn't go through. b.. There wasn't enough money in your PayPal account to cover a purchase. c.. An unauthorized payment was made from your PayPal account. d.. We issued a refund from your account to cover a buyer complaint. e.. We reversed a payment that wasn't eligible for PayPal Seller Protection. In a message dated 5/17/2012 3:18:15 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, webmas...@jb-electronics.de writes: I can confirm that, happened to me some time ago: I used a separate bank account for all my Ebay stuff (and this was the bank account assigned to PayPal), and I forgot to wire money there. When I paid with PayPal for some auction the money got sent but I got a notification that my bank account (the one I used for PayPal) was not covered, so I had a negative balance. PayPal gave me two weeks to wire money to my account in order to even out the negative balance. Jens -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Blue Magic Nixie Watch
The watch is great!!! I love it! Dieter - Original Message - From: Cobra007 mic...@xiac.com To: neonixie-l neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 3:15 AM Subject: [neonixie-l] Blue Magic Nixie Watch G'day Folks! It's been about 4 1/2 months since I had a eureka moment of how to design and make my Nixie Watch. It is finally there and guess what, I am wearing it :-). I know some people on this forum showed some initial doubts, which I can totally understand, but I finally have something to show. Initially I gave it the name Cold War as the nixie tubes come from that age, however, my wife re-named it yesterday to Blue Magic, which describes very well to what it actually is :-). Have a look, all comments very welcome! Michel http://xiac.com/Images/KoprisoNWCW.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Nixiekitworld ad
Hi Nixie Friends, fiond your new Nixiekitworld ad at: Youtube: http://youtu.be/jldL1fZjgyM Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/42395845 and https://vimeo.com/42395845 Photobucket: http://s1059.photobucket.com/albums/t426/Nixiekitworld/?action=viewcurrent=NixieKitWorld.mp4 All the best Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Attention!! NEW Nixie tube cheater at Ebay!!!
Another scam happened: http://snipurl.com/23l2d7o Unbelieveable! Ebay.com DOES NOTHING!!! against it! Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Attention!! NEW Nixie tube cheater at Ebay!!!
HI! Vitaly is a honest man! He is also listening here at Neonixie! Dieter - Original Message - From: micha...@aol.com To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Attention!! NEW Nixie tube cheater at Ebay!!! Actually, I have dealt with him before as well with great results. I don't like to vouch for anyone, so can't for him, but I did not have an issue. If you were thinking of ordering, then why not ask Dieter or Juergen. If they say good, then you are pretty assured to have no issue. Michail In a message dated 5/21/2012 12:35:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, luckyl...@gmail.com writes: Well, im not going to order anything from him. Just the fact that he didnt post here or tubeclockdb.com first is really suspicious. On Monday, May 21, 2012 8:31:01 PM UTC+1, I wrote: My first instinct would be to think not, as it is just too easy to do what he suggests and to check with Dieter and Juergen. I would certainly do that, and then proceed with caution. Order small quantities and or small monetary amounts first. See if he will list on Ebay where you will have buyer protection. I've had to use the buyer protection myself perhaps fifteen times out of the 1500 or so purchases that I have bought on Ebay in the last twelve years, always with 100% success in getting my payment back. Ira. On 5/21/2012 12:04 PM, kay486 wrote: Hi there, i just recieved this email, it looks really suspicious. vitaly.n...@yandex.ua Hi I took your email from the nixies forums. Iam not a cheater you can check my reputation asking about me by Dieter Waechter or Juergen Grau. I have a good stock so I need new customers I am a supplier from Ukraine. I can offer you many tubes of IN and IV types for reasonable prices. ( I have IN-1, IN-2, IN-3, IN-4, IN-8, IN-8-2, IN-9, IN-12, IN-13, IN-14, IN-15, IN-16, IN-17, IN-19, and many types of IV-tubes like IV-1, IV-2, IV-3, IV-4, IV-18 and other. I work with companies like PV Electronics, Nocrotec, Juergen Grau, so I have clear reputation. If you have interest in please let me know. Best regards Vitaly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/r6Heopw2gWYJ. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/b0n2WsJ4MrEJ. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: ZM1042 (Valvo) Nixie tube updated
No CGI. It's a real picture. But I'm sure a good photographer would do it better than me. Dieter - Original Message - From: kay486 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 10:23 PM Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: ZM1042 (Valvo) Nixie tube updated Whoah, those tubes have really unique reflections, this image even looks like it is cgi! http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/nixie-clocks/v600/pic/V600-RT-bd-s-b.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: ZM1042 (Valvo) Nixie tube updated
;-) Do you want the highres picture? I will send it to your address if you like. Dieter - Original Message - From: kay486 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: ZM1042 (Valvo) Nixie tube updated Im not saying the pictures are bad, its just that the glass has really unique reflections, i think its because of the angle the photos are shot at. The one gray reflection on the top of the tubes looks just too precise, also those circles at the bottom of the tube look just bit too perfect, hope it makes sence :D On Sunday, May 27, 2012 9:27:40 PM UTC+1, Nocrotec wrote: No CGI. It's a real picture. But I'm sure a good photographer would do it better than me. Dieter - Original Message - From: kay486 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 10:23 PM Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: ZM1042 (Valvo) Nixie tube updated Whoah, those tubes have really unique reflections, this image even looks like it is cgi! http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/nixie-clocks/v600/pic/V600-RT-bd-s-b.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/s8cguAmgtSQJ. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: guess the tube
YEA!! You won! ;-) Dieter - Original Message - From: kay486 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 10:58 PM Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: guess the tube Nice shot! Id say that its IN-19A On Monday, May 28, 2012 9:06:48 PM UTC+1, Nocrotec wrote: Hi! I just made some pictures and here I have a funny geuss the tube for you. I know.. it is not difficult. :-) Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: guess the tube
Hi! Not sure... I have lost the overview completely. Dieter Am 28.05.2012 23:12, schrieb kay486: Hehe :D btw, i wonder, how many tubes (types of tubes) do you have that arent on your site? On Monday, May 28, 2012 10:00:56 PM UTC+1, Nocrotec wrote: YEA!! You won! ;-) Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Arduino Nixie Clock
Hi! There were a discussion about it some days ago. I did not follow it, since I'm not interested in that topic, but can anyone tell me the links again? A friend of mine is interested in it. Thanks Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Arduino Nixie Clock
Thanks Dan. Here some other I have found: http://hackaday.com/2009/06/22/arduino-nixie-shield/ http://dangerousprototypes.com/2012/03/20/rtc-and-port-expander-for-an-arduino-nixie-clock/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4fQE4ddzrk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v5NefSyBYc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK-YhZEPnc0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbx6iZ5ShCI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgUbTO4ur1w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9e6f80xvBM Dieter Hi Dieter, Here's one.. http://arduinix.com/ :) Dan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
