Re: multipart? was Re: [newbie] ** Welcome to Newbie **

2004-06-11 Thread Erylon Hines
On Thursday 10 June 2004 07:35 pm, Eric Huff wrote:
| On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 19:31:25 -0700
|
| Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|   This is a multi-part message in MIME format...
|  
|   =_1086900076-13954-3211--
| 
|  Anybody know why this came through as multi-part mime ?
|
| Actually, i guess it's still the footer causing it.  But for some
| reason on sylpheed claws, this post comes out much uglier than
| others in that it just burps up all the multiparts headers (as seen
| above, meaining that is what was visible when i opened the mail)
|
| Does it look that way for the rest of you, or does it look like a
| normal post where the message footor just shows up at the bottom?
|
| Thanks,
| eric

With Kmail it looks just like any other post, with a message footer box at the 
bottom.

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Re: [newbie] Sound

2004-06-11 Thread Erylon Hines
On Thursday 10 June 2004 08:18 pm, Teilhard Knight wrote:
|  Teilhard Knight wrote:
|  snip
| 
|
|
| Indeed. Although most of the things you say are new to me, I can appreciate
| command-line Linux is a much more powerful OS than DOS ever was. To be
| honest, I feel impatient for seeing the end of the Micro$soft empire and
| its blue-screen world. Maybe that's why I would like to see in Linux only
| improvements over $ill Gates toys and a friendly environment. However, the
| more I learn about Linux, the less I picture it like an OS for a secretary,
| for example. I agree with someone who said that $ill Gates has a stronghold
| in his Control Panel. But that doesn't mean I cannot appreciate the
| advantages of Linux over Windows, and the speed it is evolving.
|
| Cordially,
|
| Teilhard
|
| -

Once you get it setup (and quite often--depending on hardware--it is setup 
right on install) anyone can use it, and use it well.  My wife's computer was 
converted to Linux a couple of years ago and she has no trouble with it 
whatsover, across a couple of upgrades from 8.2 to 9.1, which she is using 
now.  As she told a friend a few months ago, Linux is easy to use--it must 
be if I can do it.
As for myself, I was a network administrator back in the NT 4 days--what Linux 
has now is far simpler than NT was then.  I can't say about W2K or XP 
administration, but I think just keeping up with the updates for security 
vulnerabilities appears to be far more trouble than I want to go to.  
Contrary to appearances, the famous Windows ease-of-use is really a facade 
because the administration of the system is a nightmare.  I learned back in 
my day that I couldn't just install a security fix because there was a 
chance, a very good chance, that the fix would break some essential 
application.  From what I see on the newsgroups, it doesn't appear that this 
Windows feature has changed much over the years.

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Re: multipart? was Re: [newbie] ** Welcome to Newbie **

2004-06-11 Thread Margot
Erylon Hines wrote:
On Thursday 10 June 2004 07:35 pm, Eric Huff wrote:
| On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 19:31:25 -0700
|
| Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|   This is a multi-part message in MIME format...
|  
|   =_1086900076-13954-3211--
| 
|  Anybody know why this came through as multi-part mime ?
|
| Actually, i guess it's still the footer causing it.  But for some
| reason on sylpheed claws, this post comes out much uglier than
| others in that it just burps up all the multiparts headers (as seen
| above, meaining that is what was visible when i opened the mail)
|
| Does it look that way for the rest of you, or does it look like a
| normal post where the message footor just shows up at the bottom?
|
| Thanks,
| eric
With Kmail it looks just like any other post, with a message footer box at the 
bottom.

e
In Mozilla, it looks like any other mailing list message - with the 
message footer shown as an *attachment*, not as part of the post!

Margot

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Re: [newbie] Sound

2004-06-11 Thread aron
On Thursday 10 June 2004 11:45 pm, Erylon Hines wrote:
 On Thursday 10 June 2004 08:18 pm, Teilhard Knight wrote:
 |  Teilhard Knight wrote:
 |  snip
 |
 | Indeed. Although most of the things you say are new to me, I can
 | appreciate command-line Linux is a much more powerful OS than DOS ever
 | was. To be honest, I feel impatient for seeing the end of the Micro$soft
 | empire and its blue-screen world. Maybe that's why I would like to see in
 | Linux only improvements over $ill Gates toys and a friendly environment.
 | However, the more I learn about Linux, the less I picture it like an OS
 | for a secretary, for example. I agree with someone who said that $ill
 | Gates has a stronghold in his Control Panel. But that doesn't mean I
 | cannot appreciate the advantages of Linux over Windows, and the speed it
 | is evolving.
 |
 | Cordially,
 |
 | Teilhard
 |
 | -

 Once you get it setup (and quite often--depending on hardware--it is setup
 right on install) anyone can use it, and use it well.  My wife's computer
 was converted to Linux a couple of years ago and she has no trouble with it
 whatsover, across a couple of upgrades from 8.2 to 9.1, which she is using
 now.  As she told a friend a few months ago, Linux is easy to use--it must
 be if I can do it.
 As for myself, I was a network administrator back in the NT 4 days--what
 Linux has now is far simpler than NT was then.  I can't say about W2K or XP
 administration, but I think just keeping up with the updates for security
 vulnerabilities appears to be far more trouble than I want to go to.
 Contrary to appearances, the famous Windows ease-of-use is really a facade
 because the administration of the system is a nightmare.  I learned back in
 my day that I couldn't just install a security fix because there was a
 chance, a very good chance, that the fix would break some essential
 application.  From what I see on the newsgroups, it doesn't appear that
 this Windows feature has changed much over the years.

Think of two cars one is a old junker with a lot of chrome and the hood welded 
shut thats Windows the other car is a lite weight tank that is easy to modify 
gets a hundred miles to the gallon and hardly ever breaks down (to paraphrase 
Neil Stephenson ) 
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Re: [newbie] Palm sync software

2004-06-11 Thread j . gregorycroes
Hallo, Mikkel
Check out this link to see you like it.
http://www.multisync.org/
regards,
gregory


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From: Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:04 am
Subject: Re: [newbie] Palm sync software

 Amy wrote:
  I'm using KDE, so I guess I'll give KPilot a try in the morning, 
 unless 
  someone has any better suggestions and/or reasons why I 
 shouldn't try 
  KPilot.
  
  Though, what are KDE PIM applications? Like what's PIM stand 
 for, and 
  what sorts of applications are those?
  
 Personal
 Information
 Manager
 
 Things like phone book, address book, appointments, ect.
 
 I have not played with kpilot, but jpilot is like the Windows 
 software 
 for the Palm.  Not as  slick, but functional.  It is an front end 
 for 
 the pilot-link command line utilities.  (I just got my Palm 
 yesterday, 
 so I am still learning.)
 
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Re: [newbie] Link htdocs in Linux to htdocs in windows in the same computer

2004-06-11 Thread OOzy
The windows files are write-protected. How can I write-un-protect 
On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 20:47, OOzy wrote:
 I tried to link my var/www/html to /mnt/win_c/htdocs but it tells that
 this file sys is read only so I log as root trying to change the
 permission; however, I could not.
 
 
 On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 11:18, Chipo Hamayobe wrote:
  On Wed, 9 Jun 2004, OOzy wrote:
   Yes, the directory is already mounted as /mnt/win_c/apache/htdocs. I just
   want to link this to my public_html. So when I open a browser in Linux
   (127.0.0.1) it automatically opens the my win htdocs.
  
  just configure your apache httpd.conf file in windows so that the
  document root is c:/apache/htdocs. then link your ~/public_html directory
  to /mnt/win_c/apache/htdocs. this should work.
  
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[newbie] Good PHP Editor

2004-06-11 Thread OOzy
Hi all

I know that I am asking alot of dump questions but I have to. I am
switching from MS Win to Linux and I need to have all functionality of
windows in Linux.

Any how anybody knows a good PHP Editor?



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Re: [newbie] Link htdocs in Linux to htdocs in windows in the same computer

2004-06-11 Thread Marc Hultquist
It depends on what windows you have installed, if its a windows that uses a 
fat32 file system then you are fine, however if you are using a windows that 
uses ntfs such as XP or 2000 etc, you wont really be able to do what you 
want, as Linux only has read support for ntfs, while there is write 
support(in Debian, not sure about others), it is listed as *testing* and is 
not reccomended ! I.E use windows 98 ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Good PHP Editor

2004-06-11 Thread Marc Hultquist
Maguma has a Linux version of their php editor.
www.maguma.com, I am not sure if its free or not though, have not looked at 
their website for a good while now.

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Re: [newbie] Good PHP Editor

2004-06-11 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
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OOzy wrote:
Hi all
I know that I am asking alot of dump questions but I have to. I am
switching from MS Win to Linux and I need to have all functionality of
windows in Linux.
Any how anybody knows a good PHP Editor?
Have you tried Quanta Plus?  I like it.
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[newbie] searching for answers....

2004-06-11 Thread Curt
I'm scouring the web for answers to several issues I'm having with
several programs. To save me searching for yet another little
annoyance, can anyone tell me if the archive contains an answer to
the reason that I'm (suddenly - as of yesterday) receiving two copies
of most posts to this list?

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Re: [newbie] Cinelerra

2004-06-11 Thread Josenildo Marques
On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 23:33, Linus Drouhard wrote:
 I get no error messages, nothing but Aborted.  Any suggestions?
 
I had the same problem with a version of it, but I can't remember what
it was. I'm running 9.2. and Cinelerra 1.1.6 is working fine. You could
give it a try.

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[newbie] new to list -- testing subscription -- please ignore

2004-06-11 Thread Jason Kretzer
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Re: [newbie] Removed secondary hard disk... now what?

2004-06-11 Thread Eric Scott

- Original Message -
From: Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Removed secondary hard disk... now what?


 Eric Scott wrote:

Yo,
   I recently backed up some stuff from on Lintel/Wintel hybrid box to
another
  by putting the hard disk from the first computer into the second,
copying
  about 250MB of data to the second HD, and then removing it.  As I semi
  expected, my Mandrake Linux 9.1 OS went haywire when it realized that
it's
  new secondary HD had dissapeared again.  I've since reformatted the HD
  from the first computer, so I can't just plug it back in and get Linux
to
  boot on the second computer.  What can I do? I have files backed up on
the
  second computer's Linux system, so I can't just reinstall.  If I
upgrade
  overtop of the current linux, as the installer lets u do, will it solve
the
  issue?  I get an error during boot about hdd, basically telling me
that it
  just might not exist. (Duh, I took it out.)  But it won't boot past
that.
 Any help? I'm novice to Linux, so please be basic.
 Thanx,
ES
 
 I would try booting with the failsafe boot option.  Then edit /etc/fstab
 and remove any references to the second hard drive.  Then reboot as
 normal.  If failsafe doesn't boot, try booting off the install CD in the
 rescue mode.  Or do like I do - have a bookable Linux CD that gives you
 a stand-alone Linux system that runs off the CD.

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Failsafe doesn't work, I already tried that. I can handle getting into
rescue mode via the CD, but how do I edit /etc/fstab and what exactly do I
edit?  I'm a real novice here.
   Thanx,
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Re: [newbie] Ugly display with KMail composer msgs.

2004-06-11 Thread Jason Wilson
J Adam Latham wrote:
Dear All:
Whenever I send a message with KMail it delivers the message in a wierd and 
ugly format ... What it does is print a sentence of the message on one line, 
then on the next line it only prints a word, then a sentence, then a word ... 
(This message, I'm sure, is doing the same thing!)  Yet my messages while 
typed, and in my Sent folder, look just fine ... But the receiver's copy is 
always a formatting disaster ... 

At first I thought it might be something related to word-wrap, but it's set at 
78, so that should be fine ... I tried reducing it to 70 but still got the 
same results ... I didn't notice anything else in the Configure KMail options 
to remedy this ... 

Any/all suggestions as to how to fix this will be greatly appreciated!  

Thanks,
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I don't know exactly how to fix this but just so you know, your message 
came out fine.  At least on my machine.

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[newbie] OT: french kids stories

2004-06-11 Thread Fajar Priyanto
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Hi guys, sorry for the OT,
I've been searching the internet for free kids stories in french. Do you know 
any?
Thanks.
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[newbie] Totem Movie Player produces static on stream.cgi

2004-06-11 Thread Hoyt Bailey
When I connect  a video stream Totem plays the video fine but the audio 
is nothing but static (white audio noise).  On Kmix muting PCM removes 
the noise but nothing else affects the noise.  Any suggestions?
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[newbie] Boot Floppy

2004-06-11 Thread Peter
Hi all,
I want to install Mandrake on a pc, But it will not boot from the CD, is 
there a way to make a bootable Floppy to load the CD?

Peter

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Re: [newbie] OT: french kids stories

2004-06-11 Thread Marc Lijour
Hi

sorry I do not understand what you are looking for.
I would be happy to help if I could...


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Re: [newbie] Removed secondary hard disk... now what?

2004-06-11 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Friday 11 June 2004 09:50 am, Eric Scott wrote:

 Failsafe doesn't work, I already tried that. I can handle getting into
 rescue mode via the CD, but how do I edit /etc/fstab and what exactly do I
 edit?  I'm a real novice here.
Thanx,
  ES

Eric, you might want to keep in mind that no one here is sitting over your 
shoulder looking at the partitions on your hard drive, so unless the psychic 
computer tech is online, I doubt that anyone is going to be able to tell you 
exactly what to edit in the fstab to properly remap the partitions.

When you physically move a drive on a machine, the hard drive parititions get 
renumbered according to their physical placement on the drive.  hdc  becomes 
hda, hdd becomes hdb, etc.  Without knowing exactly how the original drives 
were partitioned and mapped, I really doubt that we can tell you how to map 
them now.

You need to try to figure out the physical placement of the partitions on the 
drive, i.e. first ide drive on 1st ide controller is hda, first partition is 
hda1, etc.  Once you know that, you can issue the mount command manually from 
the rescuecd command prompt.  Assuming one ide hard drive attached to the 
primary ide controller, and root is on the first partition:

mount -t reiserfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/root

If you have a CD attached to the primary controller, of course, that changes 
the mapping.  Your primary hard drive might be on the secondard controller in 
which case it is hdc.  If the cdrom is attached first and the ide drive 
second, both on the primary ide controller, then the cd is hda and the hard 
drive would be hdb.

Once you get root mounted, you should be able to cd to /mnt/root/etc and edit 
the fstab file.  When you edit it, you need to change the former settings 
of /dev/hd??  to the new correct settings.  Then you need to edit the 
lilo.conf file to change the parameters to point to the new devices as well.  
Then run the command to rewrite the mbr with the altered lilo.conf settings.  
it is in /usr/sbin but I can't recall the exact command offhand.

If what I have written sounds too complex, then the best suggestion that I can 
make to you is to reinstall Linux being careful to only format the /usr and / 
partitions.  You should be able to reinstall without repartitioning the drive 
and if you remember the order of the partitions, you can put everything in 
the same place and you will only have a new root and usr partition which 
should leave your data intact.

If you don't remember the original partition order, then trying to remap the 
partitions manually is going to be an issue as well.
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Re: [newbie] Boot Floppy

2004-06-11 Thread Fajar Priyanto
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On Friday 11 June 2004 06:32 pm, Peter wrote:
 Hi all,

 I want to install Mandrake on a pc, But it will not boot from the CD, is
 there a way to make a bootable Floppy to load the CD?

 Peter
Yes, Peter, you can.
Check the CD, on the image folder, I believe you'll find one that you can use 
to make a boot floppy using any raw write program.
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Re: [newbie] OT: french kids stories

2004-06-11 Thread Edgars Smits
you know, French stories, nudge, nudge
Marc Lijour wrote:
Hi
sorry I do not understand what you are looking for.
I would be happy to help if I could...

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Hi guys, sorry for the OT,
I've been searching the internet for free kids stories in french. Do you
know  any?
Thanks.
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Re: [newbie] Boot Floppy

2004-06-11 Thread Margot
Fajar Priyanto wrote:
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On Friday 11 June 2004 06:32 pm, Peter wrote:
Hi all,
I want to install Mandrake on a pc, But it will not boot from the CD, is
there a way to make a bootable Floppy to load the CD?
Peter
Yes, Peter, you can.
Check the CD, on the image folder, I believe you'll find one that you can use 
to make a boot floppy using any raw write program.
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wait for system to ask for CD1, insert CD1 and everything should be 
OK from then on.

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Re: [newbie] OT: french kids stories

2004-06-11 Thread Fajar Priyanto
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On Friday 11 June 2004 09:25 pm, Edgars Smits wrote:
 you know, French stories, nudge, nudge


Edgar, you're very naughty! :)
I've finally come across the BBC website containing French news, and then to 
the Le Figaro - a French newspaper.
Well, I guess I'll just have to develop my French vocabulary the hard way.

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[newbie] Can I install my own program on my web host

2004-06-11 Thread OOzy
May be this question is to be asked here but I am asking to know if it
is feasible.

Can I install program like Octave on my directory in my web host?





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[newbie] .tar.gz

2004-06-11 Thread OOzy
How to extract .tar.gz file. I tried tar -xvf file but no help



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Re: [newbie] .tar.gz

2004-06-11 Thread Cookie
try tar zxvf file
On 11 Jun 2004, at 16:24, OOzy wrote:
How to extract .tar.gz file. I tried tar -xvf file but no help

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Re: [newbie] .tar.gz

2004-06-11 Thread Jason Kretzer
try 

tar -xvfz


the 'z' unzips thegz portion 
the 'x' extracts the tar portion
the 'v' is for verbose mode
the 'f' is to specify the file

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Re: [newbie] Ugly display with KMail composer msgs.

2004-06-11 Thread Erylon Hines
On Friday 11 June 2004 06:57 am, Jason Wilson wrote:
| J Adam Latham wrote:
| Dear All:
| 
| Whenever I send a message with KMail it delivers the message in a wierd
|  and ugly format ... What it does is print a sentence of the message on
|  one line, then on the next line it only prints a word, then a sentence,
|  then a word ... (This message, I'm sure, is doing the same thing!)  Yet
|  my messages while typed, and in my Sent folder, look just fine ... But
|  the receiver's copy is always a formatting disaster ...
| 
| At first I thought it might be something related to word-wrap, but it's
|  set at 78, so that should be fine ... I tried reducing it to 70 but still
|  got the same results ... I didn't notice anything else in the Configure
|  KMail options to remedy this ...
| 
| Any/all suggestions as to how to fix this will be greatly appreciated!
| 
| Thanks,
| Adam
| 
| 
| 
| 
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| I don't know exactly how to fix this but just so you know, your message
| came out fine.  At least on my machine.
|
| Jason

Looks fine in my Kmail.  I would suspect that your receiver has something 
unusual going on.
If you are really concerned that the problem is a setting on your end 
(defaults should be perfectly fine and all e-mail programs, including Outlook 
and OE should show proper formatting) you can always backup (be sure to 
export your address book to a file so that you won't lose it!) and then 
delete your /home/username/.kde(the .kde is hidden--you need to check 
show hidden files under the View section of the toolbar in Konq).  This 
will destroy all of your .kde user configuration files, including Kmail, and 
you will need to re-configure it from scratch the next time you open kde and 
then Kmail.  I've had Kmail mess up a couple of times over the years, and 
have been forced to do this, but it is a last resort.  
One test is to create a new User, then make a Kmail account for the User and 
configure your smtp and POP3, leaving all other settings at the default.  
Send a message as your new User, and see if the problem persists.  If it 
does, it is probably the receiver's mail program.  If everything is 
hunky-dory with the new User, it is your user settings or a problem in your 
.kde.  Try making your user settings the same as your new User first, then 
move to the last resort.

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[newbie] libcrypto.so.0

2004-06-11 Thread OOzy
I am trying to install glimmer but it requires libcrypto.so.0. What is
this and where can I find it?



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Re: [newbie] libcrypto.so.0

2004-06-11 Thread Thomas Wilkowski
http://www2.linuxforum.net/RPM/Mandrake/updates/9.1/RPMS/libopenssl0-0.9.6i-1.3.91mdk.i586.html


The libraries files are needed for various
cryptographic algorithms
and protocols, including DES, RC4, RSA and SSL.
This product includes software developed by the
OpenSSL Project for use in
the OpenSSL Toolkit (http://www.openssl.org/).
This product includes cryptographic software written
by Eric Young
([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
This product includes software written by Tim Hudson
([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
Patches for many networking apps can be found at:
ftp://ftp.psy.uq.oz.au/pub/Crypto/SSLapps/






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Re: [newbie] libcrypto.so.0

2004-06-11 Thread John Drouhard
On Fri, 2004-06-11 at 18:52 +0300, OOzy wrote:
 I am trying to install glimmer but it requires libcrypto.so.0. What is
 this and where can I find it?

$ urpmf libcrypto.so.0
libopenssl0.9.7:/usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.7

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Re: [newbie] .tar.gz

2004-06-11 Thread Derek Jennings
On Friday 11 Jun 2004 16:29, Cookie wrote:
 try tar zxvf file

 On 11 Jun 2004, at 16:24, OOzy wrote:
  How to extract .tar.gz file. I tried tar -xvf file but no help
 

Or click on it with konqueror

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Re: [newbie] libcrypto.so.0

2004-06-11 Thread Derek Jennings
On Friday 11 Jun 2004 16:52, OOzy wrote:
 I am trying to install glimmer but it requires libcrypto.so.0. What is
 this and where can I find it?

Go here
http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php
Follow the instructions to install software sources for 'contrib', 'plf' and 
'updates'

Then either type glimmer in the search box of your Software install GUI, or 
from the command line

urpmi glimmer

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Re: [newbie] Ugly display with KMail composer msgs.

2004-06-11 Thread J Adam Latham

Jason Wilson wrote:
J Adam Latham wrote:
Dear All:
Whenever I send a message with KMail it delivers the message in a 
wierd and ugly format ... What it does is print a sentence of the 
message on one line, then on the next line it only prints a word, then 
a sentence, then a word ... (This message, I'm sure, is doing the same 
thing!)  Yet my messages while typed, and in my Sent folder, look just 
fine ... But the receiver's copy is always a formatting disaster ...
At first I thought it might be something related to word-wrap, but 
it's set at 78, so that should be fine ... I tried reducing it to 70 
but still got the same results ... I didn't notice anything else in 
the Configure KMail options to remedy this ...
Any/all suggestions as to how to fix this will be greatly appreciated! 
Thanks,
Adam
 



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I don't know exactly how to fix this but just so you know, your message 
came out fine.  At least on my machine.

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Thanks for the reply ... I have heard from a couple of other 
list-members that the msg. came thru fine on their end as well ... So it 
could be that the problem is with the app. that is reading the msg. and 
not with KMail ... For example, if I send a msg. to my Yahoo! acct. the 
message will come through in the jagged fashion I described ... It may 
just be a fact of life to get used to!

Thanks again to everyone who replied ...
Best,
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Re: [newbie] libcrypto.so.0

2004-06-11 Thread OOzy
Do I have to download it or is it part of My LM9.2 Distro? 

On Fri, 2004-06-11 at 19:05, John Drouhard wrote:
 On Fri, 2004-06-11 at 18:52 +0300, OOzy wrote:
  I am trying to install glimmer but it requires libcrypto.so.0. What is
  this and where can I find it?
 
 $ urpmf libcrypto.so.0
 libopenssl0.9.7:/usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.7
 
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Re: [newbie] Ugly display with KMail composer msgs.

2004-06-11 Thread Alan Shoemaker
On Friday 11 June 2004 09:33 am, J Adam Latham wrote:
 
 Jason Wilson wrote:
  J Adam Latham wrote:
  
  Dear All:
 
  Whenever I send a message with KMail it delivers the message in a 
  wierd and ugly format ... What it does is print a sentence of the 
  message on one line, then on the next line it only prints a word, then 
  a sentence, then a word ... (This message, I'm sure, is doing the same 
  thing!)  Yet my messages while typed, and in my Sent folder, look just 
  fine ... But the receiver's copy is always a formatting disaster ...
  At first I thought it might be something related to word-wrap, but 
  it's set at 78, so that should be fine ... I tried reducing it to 70 
  but still got the same results ... I didn't notice anything else in 
  the Configure KMail options to remedy this ...
  Any/all suggestions as to how to fix this will be greatly appreciated! 
  Thanks,
  Adam
   
 
  
 
  
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  I don't know exactly how to fix this but just so you know, your message 
  came out fine.  At least on my machine.
  
  Jason
  
  
  
  
  
  
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 Thanks for the reply ... I have heard from a couple of other 
 list-members that the msg. came thru fine on their end as well ... So it 
 could be that the problem is with the app. that is reading the msg. and 
 not with KMail ... For example, if I send a msg. to my Yahoo! acct. the 
 message will come through in the jagged fashion I described ... It may 
 just be a fact of life to get used to!

set kmail's composer's width setting to something less than the 78 character 
width it is set at by default.

 
 Thanks again to everyone who replied ...
 
 Best,
 Adam
 
 

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Re: [newbie] libcrypto.so.0

2004-06-11 Thread robin
OOzy wrote:
Do I have to download it or is it part of My LM9.2 Distro? 
If you tried to install glimmer with urpmi, and it wouldn't install 
lybcrypto automatically, then it isn't in your distro. Of course you may 
be trying to install a more recent version of glimmer which requires a 
more recent version of libcrypto, in which installing an earlier version 
might solve your problem.

The best place to look for these things is http://rpmfind.net.
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[newbie] DVD Movie making

2004-06-11 Thread Travis Crook
Hi All,
This might be a little off-topic, but does anyone know of a good DVD
authoring package?  With menu creation?

Thanks!
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Re: [newbie] Installing Gnuplot

2004-06-11 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
OOzy wrote:
Hi all I downloaded the following gnuplot. The I unzipped it. Then typed
configure then make. This suppose ver 4. However, every time I type
gnuplot I get the previous version which 3.7. What wrong? How I fix it?
gnuplot-4.0.0.tar.gz
Did you remove the old version of gnuplot?  If it is installed from an 
RPM, you should use rpm to remove it before installing from source.  You 
would be better off finding an RPM of the newer version and upgrading. 
If you are going to install from source, you need to run make install, 
probably as root, depending on where it is set to install to.  You may 
be able to run it from the source directory with ./gnuplot.

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Re: [newbie] Removed secondary hard disk... now what?

2004-06-11 Thread Eric Scott

- Original Message -
From: Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Removed secondary hard disk... now what?


 On Friday 11 June 2004 09:50 am, Eric Scott wrote:

  Failsafe doesn't work, I already tried that. I can handle getting into
  rescue mode via the CD, but how do I edit /etc/fstab and what exactly do
I
  edit?  I'm a real novice here.
 Thanx,
   ES

 Eric, you might want to keep in mind that no one here is sitting over your
 shoulder looking at the partitions on your hard drive, so unless the
psychic
 computer tech is online, I doubt that anyone is going to be able to tell
you
 exactly what to edit in the fstab to properly remap the partitions.

 When you physically move a drive on a machine, the hard drive parititions
get
 renumbered according to their physical placement on the drive.  hdc
becomes
 hda, hdd becomes hdb, etc.  Without knowing exactly how the original
drives
 were partitioned and mapped, I really doubt that we can tell you how to
map
 them now.

 You need to try to figure out the physical placement of the partitions on
the
 drive, i.e. first ide drive on 1st ide controller is hda, first partition
is
 hda1, etc.  Once you know that, you can issue the mount command manually
from
 the rescuecd command prompt.  Assuming one ide hard drive attached to the
 primary ide controller, and root is on the first partition:

 mount -t reiserfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/root

 If you have a CD attached to the primary controller, of course, that
changes
 the mapping.  Your primary hard drive might be on the secondard controller
in
 which case it is hdc.  If the cdrom is attached first and the ide drive
 second, both on the primary ide controller, then the cd is hda and the
hard
 drive would be hdb.

 Once you get root mounted, you should be able to cd to /mnt/root/etc and
edit
 the fstab file.  When you edit it, you need to change the former settings
 of /dev/hd??  to the new correct settings.  Then you need to edit the
 lilo.conf file to change the parameters to point to the new devices as
well.
 Then run the command to rewrite the mbr with the altered lilo.conf
settings.
 it is in /usr/sbin but I can't recall the exact command offhand.

 If what I have written sounds too complex, then the best suggestion that I
can
 make to you is to reinstall Linux being careful to only format the /usr
and /
 partitions.  You should be able to reinstall without repartitioning the
drive
 and if you remember the order of the partitions, you can put everything in
 the same place and you will only have a new root and usr partition which
 should leave your data intact.

 If you don't remember the original partition order, then trying to remap
the
 partitions manually is going to be an issue as well.
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Thanx... I'm almost ok so far.  I figured out that the local HD is hdc, and
the mandrake partition is hdc6, and I'm almost sure that the hard disk that
I put in and removed was hdd, 'cause it always stalls while trying to mount
hdd when I boot.  My problem now is getting hdc6 to mount in rescue mode...
when I try to mount to /mnt/root is says the directory doesn't exist,  and
if I try anyplace else is says: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock
on /dev/hdc6, or too many mounted file systems  Just to clarify I think
that this disk is find and hasn't been ruined by any su newbie mishap of
mine, as far as I know... :-P
 Thanx for ur help, I should only need a bit more... that reinstall is
sounding better and better all the time, but I'd like to actually say i
killed and revived my computer instead of i killed and lost my computer...
again
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Re: [newbie] Removed secondary hard disk... now what?

2004-06-11 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Eric Scott wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Removed secondary hard disk... now what?

On Friday 11 June 2004 09:50 am, Eric Scott wrote:

Failsafe doesn't work, I already tried that. I can handle getting into
rescue mode via the CD, but how do I edit /etc/fstab and what exactly do
I
edit?  I'm a real novice here.
  Thanx,
ES

snip

Thanx... I'm almost ok so far.  I figured out that the local HD is hdc, and
the mandrake partition is hdc6, and I'm almost sure that the hard disk that
I put in and removed was hdd, 'cause it always stalls while trying to mount
hdd when I boot.  My problem now is getting hdc6 to mount in rescue mode...
when I try to mount to /mnt/root is says the directory doesn't exist,  and
if I try anyplace else is says: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock
on /dev/hdc6, or too many mounted file systems  Just to clarify I think
that this disk is find and hasn't been ruined by any su newbie mishap of
mine, as far as I know... :-P
 Thanx for ur help, I should only need a bit more... that reinstall is
sounding better and better all the time, but I'd like to actually say i
killed and revived my computer instead of i killed and lost my computer...
again
   ES

The mount problem is probaly because there isn't a directory called 
/mnt/root.  (A directory called root in the /mnt directory.)

One thing to try - At the boot screen, hit the Esc key.  You should then 
get a list of boot options, and a LILO: prompt.

Type linux init=/bin/bash.  This should start Linux, and only mount 
the root partition.  You will get a command prompt, and a limmited 
system.  You can then edit /etc/fstab and remove the references to 
/dev/hdd.  Then you can reboot, and all should be well.  You will have 
to use text editor, like vi, ed, joe, ect.  I like to use mc, and the 
editor mcedit that is part of the package...

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Re: [newbie] Removed secondary hard disk... now what?

2004-06-11 Thread Eric Scott

- Original Message -
From: Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Removed secondary hard disk... now what?


 Eric Scott wrote:
  - Original Message -
  From: Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 9:12 AM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Removed secondary hard disk... now what?
 
 
 
 On Friday 11 June 2004 09:50 am, Eric Scott wrote:
 
 
 Failsafe doesn't work, I already tried that. I can handle getting into
 rescue mode via the CD, but how do I edit /etc/fstab and what exactly
do
 
  I
 
 edit?  I'm a real novice here.
Thanx,
  ES
  

 snip

  
  Thanx... I'm almost ok so far.  I figured out that the local HD is hdc,
and
  the mandrake partition is hdc6, and I'm almost sure that the hard disk
that
  I put in and removed was hdd, 'cause it always stalls while trying to
mount
  hdd when I boot.  My problem now is getting hdc6 to mount in rescue
mode...
  when I try to mount to /mnt/root is says the directory doesn't exist,
and
  if I try anyplace else is says: wrong fs type, bad option, bad
superblock
  on /dev/hdc6, or too many mounted file systems  Just to clarify I think
  that this disk is find and hasn't been ruined by any su newbie mishap
of
  mine, as far as I know... :-P
   Thanx for ur help, I should only need a bit more... that reinstall
is
  sounding better and better all the time, but I'd like to actually say i
  killed and revived my computer instead of i killed and lost my
computer...
  again
 ES
 
 
 The mount problem is probaly because there isn't a directory called
 /mnt/root.  (A directory called root in the /mnt directory.)

 One thing to try - At the boot screen, hit the Esc key.  You should then
 get a list of boot options, and a LILO: prompt.

 Type linux init=/bin/bash.  This should start Linux, and only mount
 the root partition.  You will get a command prompt, and a limmited
 system.  You can then edit /etc/fstab and remove the references to
 /dev/hdd.  Then you can reboot, and all should be well.  You will have
 to use text editor, like vi, ed, joe, ect.  I like to use mc, and the
 editor mcedit that is part of the package...

 Mikkel
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Well... it gave me: kernel paic: Atempted to kill init!

   thanx for ur patience,

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Re: [newbie] Removed secondary hard disk... now what?

2004-06-11 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Friday 11 June 2004 01:31 pm, Eric Scott wrote:

 Thanx... I'm almost ok so far.  I figured out that the local HD is hdc, and
 the mandrake partition is hdc6, and I'm almost sure that the hard disk that
 I put in and removed was hdd, 'cause it always stalls while trying to mount
 hdd when I boot.  My problem now is getting hdc6 to mount in rescue mode...
 when I try to mount to /mnt/root is says the directory doesn't exist,  and
 if I try anyplace else is says: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock
 on /dev/hdc6, or too many mounted file systems  Just to clarify I think
 that this disk is find and hasn't been ruined by any su newbie mishap of
 mine, as far as I know... :-P

Well, I specified reiserfs on the command that I sent you but that may be 
wrong, since your disk may be ext3 or some other filesystem type.  You need 
to specify the right one.

As for the mnt point, if it doesn't exist, from the console in rescue mode, 
you can always issue the mkdir /mnt/root command and then issue the mount 
command.  That way, the mount point will be created.  The /mnt directory 
should exist as I think that it is created on the ramdrive that Mandrake uses 
to run rescue mode.

This is assuming that Mandrake was installed to a single partition, IIRC, the 
default is two partitions, a / and /home partition.
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Re: [newbie] Palm sync software

2004-06-11 Thread JoeHill
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:53:18 -0400
Marv Boyes disseminated the following:

 Jpilot is the closest you'll get to Palm Desktop on Linux. I've been 
 using it for about a year and a half with my Clie.
 
 Kpilot is handy if all you want to do is install a file (or sync with, 
 say, Evolution), but Jpilot brings a lot of extra PIM functionality.

...and it can use plugins like jpilot-syncmal to download the latest headlines
and such from AvantGo. JPilot is definitely the coolest!

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Re: [newbie] Re: nVidia drivers killed my Xfree?

2004-06-11 Thread RickS
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On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 16:56:00 -0500
Eric Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

|Hey, me again :-P,
|  I recently downloaded nVidia drivers from the nVidia website,
installed|them with their kernal driver thingamaboper, and restarted
my Mandrake 9.1|system to try and get my newly-downloaded Boson 0.7
(Isn't it technically|0.07? Ah well, typo on the mirror)  to run
smooth... and now X-free gives an|error.
|   I don't necessarily want help getting nVidia's drivers to work
right with|my X-free (Wichi is, I believe, 4.3.0), but I'm novice to
Linux... how do I|delete the driver packages from my system after
they've been installed? I|used urpmi to put them in, as they were
both rpms, but howabout getting them|out? Is it just as simple?
|  Thanx,
|  ES

Eric, sorry to be the list meanie, but please don't hijack threads
like this, it makes searching the mailing list archives very
frustrating. 8( 

Please read the Mailing List Etiquette which can be found at the
community Twiki:
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette

Also you can check out..
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/urpmi 

for information about urpmi, should get ya started 8)

HTH
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Re: [newbie] Link htdocs in Linux to htdocs in windows in the same computer

2004-06-11 Thread Ariestao1
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 10:52 pm, Marc Hultquist wrote:
 It depends on what windows you have installed, if its a windows that uses a
 fat32 file system then you are fine, however if you are using a windows
 that uses ntfs such as XP or 2000 etc, you wont really be able to do what
 you want, as Linux only has read support for ntfs, while there is write
 support(in Debian, not sure about others), it is listed as *testing* and is
 not reccomended ! I.E use windows 98 ;-)

I haven't followed this thread but 2000 and XP can be installed on FAT 32 file 
systems as well as NTFS.

That also allows picking files off the windows partition while in Linux 
modifying and returning them to their location.

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Re: [newbie] Boot Floppy

2004-06-11 Thread evolt
Margot wrote:
Fajar Priyanto wrote:
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Hi all,
I want to install Mandrake on a pc, But it will not boot from the CD, is
there a way to make a bootable Floppy to load the CD?
Peter

Yes, Peter, you can.
Check the CD, on the image folder, I believe you'll find one that you 
can use to make a boot floppy using any raw write program.
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Re: [newbie] Good PHP Editor

2004-06-11 Thread yankl
On Friday 11 June 2004 08:35 am, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
 OOzy wrote:
 Hi all
 
 I know that I am asking alot of dump questions but I have to. I am
 switching from MS Win to Linux and I need to have all functionality of
 windows in Linux.
 
 Any how anybody knows a good PHP Editor?

 Have you tried Quanta Plus?  I like it.

Actually it is loaded question. Are you looking for something that have PHP 
syntax highlight? Then I like bluefish. If you are looking for IDE 
Kdevelopment have capability for PHP development. 
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Re: multipart? was Re: [newbie] ** Welcome to Newbie **

2004-06-11 Thread Eric Huff
  |   This is a multi-part message in MIME format...
  |  
  |   =_1086900076-13954-3211--

  With Kmail it looks just like any other post, with a message
  footer box at the bottom.

That's how it looks for other posts.

 In Mozilla, it looks like any other mailing list message - with
 the message footer shown as an *attachment*, not as part of the
 post!

Hah!  Eacxh one is different.  Thanks for the reports.  I'll just
ignore it...

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Re: [newbie] Good PHP Editor

2004-06-11 Thread JoeHill
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 15:11:49 +0300
OOzy disseminated the following:

 Any how anybody knows a good PHP Editor?

urpmi SciTE

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[newbie] fbpanel 3.8

2004-06-11 Thread Eric Huff
Hello,

I've been away from upgrading for awhile, and though i'd try fbpanel
3.8 (i'm on 1.o unstable, now!)

Anyway, i get the below when when compiling.  The main error is:
`G_MODULE_BIND_LOCAL' undeclared (first use in this function)

Anyone run into this, or know what the solution is (short of
actually re-writing code...) ?

Thanks,

eric



gcc -O2 -Wall  -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED
-DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0
-I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0
-I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include
-I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/freetype2/freetype2
-I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include   -c plugin.c

plugin.c: In function `plugin_load':

plugin.c:107: error: `G_MODULE_BIND_LOCAL' undeclared (first use in
this function)

plugin.c:107: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only
once

plugin.c:107: error: for each function it appears in.)

plugin.c:112: warning: dereferencing type-punned pointer will break
strict-aliasing rules
make: *** [plugin.o] Error 1


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[newbie] user login problems ...

2004-06-11 Thread RickS
Hi all,

I cannot login as my normal user to any window manager or even at init
3 but if I su to ricks

[bash 09:31 PM] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:ricks]$ su ricks
[bash 09:31 PM] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/ricks]$ ll

it will let me login but running an app ...

[bash 09:31 PM] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/ricks]$ sylpheed
Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified


Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0

or even this
[bash 09:40 PM] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/ricks]$ opera
Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

opera: cannot connect to X server :0


Any ideas how to fix this ?


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Re: [newbie] user login problems ...

2004-06-11 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
RickS wrote:
Hi all,
I cannot login as my normal user to any window manager or even at init
3 but if I su to ricks
[bash 09:31 PM] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:ricks]$ su ricks
[bash 09:31 PM] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/ricks]$ ll
it will let me login but running an app ...
[bash 09:31 PM] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/ricks]$ sylpheed
Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified
Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
or even this
[bash 09:40 PM] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/ricks]$ opera
Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified
opera: cannot connect to X server :0
Any ideas how to fix this ?
RickS
It sounds like you have two seperate problems here.  I'll take a stab at 
the easy one first.  If you are starting X as root, you will not be able 
to run X programs as a normal user.  The reasion for that is that the 
user that starts X, or logs in a the window manager screen, owns the 
display.  There are security conserns with letting other users access 
the X server.

If you use su username, and then start X, there some problems as 
well.  Because you are username, but have the envirment of the user 
you were before running su, things get confused.  If you use
su - username, and then start X, things should work right.

Now, as for not being able to log in as a normal user, if would be 
helpfull to know what kind of error message.  Without that, the only 
thing I can think of is to check /etc, and see if there is a nologin 
file.  This file is normaly created when you use shutdown with a delay 
time, and prevents normal users from logging in.  If this file is still 
there for some reasion, deleting it will allow normal logins again.

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Re: [newbie] user login problems ...

2004-06-11 Thread RickS
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 21:26:26 -0500
Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 RickS wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  I cannot login as my normal user to any window manager or even at init 3 but 
  if I su to ricks
  
  [bash 09:31 PM] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:ricks]$ su ricks
  [bash 09:31 PM] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/ricks]$ ll
  
  it will let me login but running an app ...
  
  [bash 09:31 PM] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/ricks]$ sylpheed
  Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
  Xlib: No protocol specified
  
  
  Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
  
  or even this
  [bash 09:40 PM] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/ricks]$ opera
  Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
  Xlib: No protocol specified
  
  opera: cannot connect to X server :0
  
  
  Any ideas how to fix this ?
  
  
  RickS
  
  It sounds like you have two seperate problems here.  I'll take a  stab at  
  the easy one first.  If you are starting X as root, you  will not be able  
  to run X programs as a normal user.  

Thx .. makes sense to me 8)

 
 Now, as for not being able to log in as a normal user, if would be 
 helpfull to know what kind of error message.  Without that, the only 
 thing I can think of is to check /etc, and see if there is a nologin  file.  This 
 file is normaly created when you use shutdown with a delay  time, and prevents 
 normal users from logging in.  If this file is   still there for some reasion, 
 deleting it will allow normal logins  again.
 
 Mikkel
thx Mikkel,
There wasnt a nologin file in /etc .. and I can't find any error messages .. ?? or 
nothing in the logs ..
I reboot and autologin doesn't work so it dumps back to login and thats where I would 
login to root. I also added a user that can access and start kde or fluxbox with no 
problems ... 

jus not sure where to look anymore ?

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Re: [newbie] user login problems ...

2004-06-11 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
RickS wrote:
thx Mikkel, There wasnt a nologin file in /etc .. and I can't find
any error messages .. ?? or nothing in the logs .. I reboot and
autologin doesn't work so it dumps back to login and thats where I
would login to root. I also added a user that can access and start
kde or fluxbox with no problems ...
jus not sure where to look anymore ?
RickS
Oh, autologin doesn't work.  I thought you could not log in as a normal 
user at the login prompt.  You can run bootdrake, and check to make sure 
it is still set to autologin, and that the correct user is selected. 
Also, if you have not set a password for a user, you will not be able to 
log in, even though you can autologin as that user at boot.

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Re: [newbie] Electronic libraries

2004-06-11 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
John Richard Smith wrote:
Anyone know whether Linux has the equivelant of elibrary or EText Reader ?
Is there a Linux app(s) to work with the elibrary/EText Reader setup 
like there are in windblows ?

John
I have not found one that will read Microsoft format e-books.  The best 
I have found is a program that will break out the files from one into a 
directory that you can then read with a web browser.  If you run the 
Windows version, it will extract the files from locked e-books as well. 
 (It uses the windows dll and key to do the unlocking, so I gess it is 
legal...)

I would even be happy to find a good reader for reading e-books that are 
formatted for the Palm.  (Using Palm software in the emulator is not a 
good option...)  I am sure there is a reader out there - I just have not 
spent enough time looking...

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Re: [newbie] user login problems ...

2004-06-11 Thread RickS
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Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

|RickS wrote:
| 
| thx Mikkel, There wasnt a nologin file in /etc .. and I can't
| find any error messages .. ?? or nothing in the logs .. I reboot
| and autologin doesn't work so it dumps back to login and thats
| where I would login to root. I also added a user that can access
| and start kde or fluxbox with no problems ...
| 
| jus not sure where to look anymore ?
| 
| RickS
| 
|Oh, autologin doesn't work.  I thought you could not log in as a
|normal user at the login prompt.  
sorry I meant I couldn't login as myself and as a result autologin
wouldn't work. 

|
|Mikkel
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but I copied the .Xauthority file from the user I created to my
current normal user $HOME and it's now working .. not sure what
happened though. 

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Re: [newbie] user login problems ...

2004-06-11 Thread RickS
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Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

|RickS wrote:
| 
| thx Mikkel, There wasnt a nologin file in /etc .. and I can't
find| any error messages .. ?? or nothing in the logs .. I reboot
and| autologin doesn't work so it dumps back to login and thats
where I| would login to root. I also added a user that can access
and start| kde or fluxbox with no problems ...
| 
| jus not sure where to look anymore ?
| 
| RickS
| 
|Oh, autologin doesn't work.  I thought you could not log in as a
normal |user at the login prompt.  You can run bootdrake, and check
to make sure |it is still set to autologin, and that the correct
user is selected. |Also, if you have not set a password for a user,
you will not be able to |log in, even though you can autologin as
that user at boot.|
|Mikkel
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btw .. thanks again for the help 8)

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Re: [newbie] Email Client

2004-06-11 Thread David E. Fox
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:08:33 -0400
robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I don't go for these new-fangled clients - it's elm for me ;-)

There's one thing to say about elm - it's *fast*.

I've used it on and off for years, and my fingers have developed
memories for its keys. But for most stuff nowadays, I prefer using
sylpheed, declawed :). I tried sylpheed claws and I didn't like it all
that much.

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Re: [newbie] Debian's Apt-Get or Redhat's RPM ???

2004-06-11 Thread David E. Fox
On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 08:00:39 -0500
The Other [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Suggestions for a package manager?  The down side is that I have a 
 56Kb Modem to use to get the updates.

Well, a package manager per se is really a database front end, and the
database is either going to be what's in /var/lib/rpm, or the equivalent
in an apt-get based system, or what have you. Other distributions have
package management systems -- for instance, apt in debian and derived
distributions, emerge for gentoo, packman for arch, and so forth. I've
heard for instance that apt is superior to what we have (urpmi) but I am
skeptical. It boils down to whether or not you have good repositories,
more than whether or not your system is apt based or urpmi based, at
least in my humble opinion :).

One person in particular has been thinking along the lines of apt-get
Mandrake as he puts it, saying that apt is better than urpmi. I'm not
so sure, but it's intriguing. I tried apt once on Mandrake a while ago,
and wasn't really impressed with the results. But I think my experience
was because there wasn't a good source list set up.

He also mentioned something called synaptics - I am not sure of the
exact spelling, since a google search gave me mostly results for some
touchpad device.


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Re: [newbie] Good PHP Editor

2004-06-11 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
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yankl wrote:
On Friday 11 June 2004 08:35 am, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
 

OOzy wrote:
   

Hi all
I know that I am asking alot of dump questions but I have to. I am
switching from MS Win to Linux and I need to have all functionality of
windows in Linux.
Any how anybody knows a good PHP Editor?
 

Have you tried Quanta Plus?  I like it.
   

Actually it is loaded question. Are you looking for something that have PHP 
syntax highlight? Then I like bluefish. If you are looking for IDE 
Kdevelopment have capability for PHP development.

Quanta Plus has PHP syntax highlighting and code auto-completion with a 
less dramtic learning curve than KDevelop.

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Re: [newbie] Cinelerra

2004-06-11 Thread David E. Fox
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 21:33:02 -0500
Linus Drouhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can anyone get Cinelerra to run?  I'm running Mandrake 10.  Everytime
 I try to run Cinelerra I get

Me neither. 1.1.8-1 from plf. I just installed it with urpmi. I had this
thing working before, but never really did anything with it. At that
time under 9.2, I only had 256 megs of RAM. I wanted to revisit it a
little while ago when I upped the memory to 768 megs, but I did not get
very far, so I urpme'd it. In this version I get the opening splash
screen, a number of progress bars indicating that things are being
loaded, and then just an aborted message, but no indication as to why
it was aborted (like no SIGILL, etc.)

Running it inside of gdb gives me a sign that the process incurred a
signal SIGABRT (abort) and something about not being able to access a
particular memory region.

ump of assembler code from 0xe3f0 to 0xe430:
0xe3f0: Cannot access memory at address 0xe3f0
(gdb) bt
#0  0xe410 in ?? ()
#1  0xbfffb72c in ?? ()
#2  0x0006 in ?? ()
#3  0x4c15 in ?? ()
#4  0x40269640 in raise () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6
#5  0x4026b149 in abort () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6
#6  0x401ea0f5 in __cxa_call_unexpected () from /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5

Hmm. Maybe a conflict in libstdc++ ? After that, it just aborts, looks
like it fell off the stack.

#7  0x401ea132 in std::terminate() () from /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5
#8  0x401ea2b2 in __cxa_throw () from /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5
#9  0x401ea4ef in operator new(unsigned) () from /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5
#10 0x401ea5bd in operator new[](unsigned) () from
#/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 11 0x084cd065 in
#BC_Theme::get_image_data(char*) () 12 0x084cc167 in
#BC_Theme::new_image(char*, char*) () 13 0x08254c4a in
#Theme::initialize() () 14 0x081cf834 in MWindow::init_theme() ()
#15 0x081d128e in MWindow::create_objects(int, int) ()
#16 0x081b746c in main ()

Next thing to try - maybe - compiling the thing from a source rpm if I
can find one. I had to do that f.i. with gimp sometime back (.



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Re: [newbie] Cinelerra

2004-06-11 Thread David E. Fox
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 21:33:02 -0500
Linus Drouhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can anyone get Cinelerra to run?  I'm running Mandrake 10.  Everytime
 I try to run Cinelerra I get

followup

luckily, found a source rpm for it on
ftp.club-internet.fr:/pub/linux/plf

It's building now (found one dependency, needed texinfo) but may take a
while. 1ghz athlon here. :)


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Re: [newbie] Print in 10.0 missing chrs

2004-06-11 Thread rikona
Hello Rob,

Saturday, June 5, 2004, 11:45:12 PM, you wrote:

RB On Tuesday 01 June 2004 11:41 pm, rikona wrote:
 Hello Rob,

 Since it is over the net, could samba be doing this?

 Any other ideas to get the first few chrs to print?

RB Humm. Then it is probably Samba messing up or something like that. I have had 
RB problems with printing with Samba, but not this kind. I would say that the 
RB cups module is having problems with Samba, 

RB I am not an expert on Samba by any means, but I would check what the printer 
RB is saying on the printserver, and find out what Samba is saying... For cups, 
RB point your browser at http://localhost:631/ and check the logs for Samba 
RB in /var/log/samba/. You will also find logs for cups in /var/log/cups.

Thanks for the ideas. I checked all the logs in these dirs, and a few
others too. Everything looks just fine - it queues jobs, sends them
off, and reports printing them. No errors at all. This is reasonable,
in a way, because it DOES print the document, except for the first few
chrs in each line. :-(((

Any ideas much appreciated. More things to check?

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[newbie] RE: Sound

2004-06-11 Thread Maureen L. Thomas
I have very happily been using 10.0 officical for a while now and 
haven't had a lot of problems til now.  All of a sudden I am getting a 
message that states permission is not granted to /dev/dsp.  I did a ls 
-s on it and it pointed to a simlink.  I'm not sure where the problem is 
but here is a copy of what I did so far.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] maureen]$ cd /dev
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]$ ls -l dsp
lr-xr-xr-x  1 root root 9 May 27 04:45 dsp - sound/dsp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]$ ls -l /dev/sound/dsp
crw---  1 root audio 14, 3 Dec 31  1969 /dev/sound/dsp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]$ su
Password:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# exit
exit
Can anyone point me in the right direction.  What permission do I change 
to get it back to working again.  TIA, Maureen



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