SBS 2008 + Redhat Desktop client

[justino garcia]

SBS 2008 + Redhat Desktop client
how well would redhat desktop play with sbs 2008.
I understand no exchange client,
file sharing wold work,
what other issue could arrise, or would be it doable??

-- 
Justin
IT-TECH

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Microsoft Security Advisory (2028859) : Is this someting to Worry aboutVulnerability in Canonical Display Driver Could Allow Remote Code Execution

[Carl Houseman]

Not so much, so far.

 

http://secunia.com/advisories/39577/

 

Carl

 

From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 10:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Microsoft Security Advisory (2028859) : Is this someting to Worry
aboutVulnerability in Canonical Display Driver Could Allow Remote Code
Execution

 

Is this something to worry about 

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/2028859.mspx

-- 
Justin
IT-TECH

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Microsoft Security Advisory (2028859) : Is this someting to Worry aboutVulnerability in Canonical Display Driver Could Allow Remote Code Execution

[justino garcia]

Is this something to worry about
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/2028859.mspx

-- 
Justin
IT-TECH

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Scripting IP Changes on remote devices

[Michael B. Smith]

Yes, it did.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 7:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Scripting IP Changes on remote devices

So did the script I posted make it to the list? I'm starting to wonder if some 
filter may have blocked the e-mail since I just pasted the code in the body...

- Sean
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr 
mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
  thso fwaht?!

--
ME2

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Jonathan Link 
mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Script lush!

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr 
mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Its always welcomed to share useful scripts!

--
ME2


On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Sean Martin 
mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com>> wrote:
First, thanks for all of the feedback. Some interesting opinions out there. 
I've always been open to change so it's good to hear all of the 
positives/negatives regarding which route to take. It sounds like DHCP would be 
the way to go with the majority of our servers, excluding the infrastructure 
servers.

With that said, it's probably a change that will occur through attrition rather 
than changing our current method all at once. The main reason for that is our 
network services department wants us to change the subnets our servers 
currently reside on to further segment stuff. We've got way too much work on 
our plates to investigate changing the addresses on all of our servers so that 
will already be a slow transition.

In the meantime, a co-worker and I put together what we hope is a functional VB 
script that will make the necessary changes to the existing WINs and DNS 
settings. If anyone's interested in seeing it (and maybe reviewing it for 
validity), I'd be happy to pass it along.

- Sean
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Ben Scott 
mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Sean Martin 
mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> What are some of the pros/cons of using DHCP for servers...?

 For an environment like you describe, with hundreds of servers, I
would recommend DHCP for all but critical network infrastructure
servers.  I'd use manual configuration for anything serving DHCP, DNS,
WINS, or Active Directory.  Everything else, DHCP, with reservations.

 Just to be clear: DHCP does not have to mean a dynamic IP address.
You can statically assign an IP address via a DHCP reservation.  And
there are tools to help you do things like automatically provision the
reservations, based on name or MAC address or whatever.

> I've heard mention of not using DHCP to prevent DHCP broadcasts
> but with a properly designed lease interval, I can't imagine the DHCP
> traffic being that much of burden on today's networks
 As ME2 says, it really depends on the environment, but I would
generally agree.  You'll already be needing infrastructure to support
DNS, prolly Active Directory, possibly WINS, Window Updates, etc.,
etc.  If DHCP is going to push you over the edge you're already way
too close to the edge.  :)

 The one thing you *may* notice is a surge in broadcast traffic after
rebooting or starting a large group of servers -- say, after a
software update, or a long power outage.  In general, though, you're
already going to be seeing that due to ARP and maybe NetBIOS
registration.  So again, if this is a problem you're likely already
experiencing it.  The usual solution is to stagger reboot/startup.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


























~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Scripting IP Changes on remote devices

[Kurt Buff]

Nice little script...

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 13:11, Sean Martin  wrote:
> As promised. IP addresses have been changed to protect the innocent. The
> script relies on a text file with server names. I'm sure there will be
> questions as to why it was written the way it was so I'll do my best to
> answer those as they come up.
>
> 
> Option Explicit
> 'On Error Resume Next
> 'Variable Declarations
> Dim
> arrNewDNSServers,objWMIService,colNetCards,objNetCard,arrCurrentDNS,strWINSOne,strWINSTwo,strMACAdd
> Dim
> objFSO,objFileList,strLine,i,strWINSPrime,strWINSSec,strDNSPrime,strDNSSec
> strWINSPrime="10.10.10.10"
> strWINSSec="10.10.10.11"
> strDNSPrime="10.10.10.12"
> strDNSSec="10.10.10.13"
> Set objFSO=CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject") 'Create the
> FileSystemObject for accessing the filesystem on the local pc
> Set
> objFileList=objFSO.OpenTextFile("c:\Scripts\NICSettings\ServerList.txt",1)
> 'Open the list file
> ErrorTrap "NULL","NULL",err.Number,err.Description,"Opening List File"
>
> arrNewDNSServers = Array(strDNSPrime,strDNSSec) 'Array containing new DNS
> information
> 'Loop through the list file.
> Do Until objFileList.AtEndOfStream
>  strLine = objFileList.ReadLine 'Read a line from the list file
>  ErrorTrap strLine,"NULL",err.Number,err.Description,"Reading List File"
>
>  Set objWMIService = GetObject("winmgmts:\\"&strLine&"\root\CIMV2")'Connect
> to the remote WMI
>  ErrorTrap strLine,"NULL",err.Number,err.Description,"Setting objWMIService"
>
>  Set colNetCards=objWMIService.ExecQuery("Select * From
> Win32_NetworkAdapterConfiguration")'Query the remote network adapters
>  ErrorTrap strLine,"NULL",err.Number,err.Description,"Loading Network Cards"
>  For Each objNetCard in colNetCards 'Loop through each network adapter
>   strMACAdd=objNetCard.MACAddress 'Load the remote MAC to a variable
>   ErrorTrap strLine,"NULL",err.Number,err.Description,"Loading MAC Address
> into variable"
>   arrCurrentDNS=objNetCard.DNSServerSearchOrder 'Load current DNS into a
> variable
>   ErrorTrap strLine,strMACAdd,err.Number,err.Description,"Loading DNS
> settings into an array"
>   strWINSOne=objNetCard.WINSPrimaryServer 'Load primary WINS server into a
> variable
>   ErrorTrap strLine,strMACAdd,err.Number,err.Description,"Loading primary
> WINS server into variable"
>   strWINSTwo=objNetCard.WINSSecondaryServer 'Load secondary WINS server into
> a variable
>   ErrorTrap strLine,strMACAdd,err.Number,err.Description,"Loading secondary
> WINS server into variable"
>
>   If objNetCard.DHCPEnabled=False Then 'Check if DHCP is enabled.  If not,
> proceed.
>
>    If Not IsNull(arrCurrentDNS) Then 'Check if there are currently any DNS
> settings
> For i = 0 to UBound(arrCurrentDNS) 'Cycle through DNS servers
>  If (arrCurrentDNS(i)="20.20.20.20") Then 'Look for old DNS info, if
> found, proceed.
>   objNetCard.SetDNSServerSearchOrder(arrNewDNSServers)'Set new DNS info
>   ErrorTrap strLine,strMACAdd,err.Number,err.Description,"Setting New
> DNS Settings"
>   'Exit For
>  End If
> Next
>    End If
>    If strWINSONE="20.20.20.20" or strWINSOne = "20.20.20.21" Then 'Check for
> old WINS info. If found, proceed.
> objNetCard.SetWINSServer strWINSPrime,strWINSSec ' Set new WINS info
> ErrorTrap strLine,strMACAdd,err.Number,err.Description,"Setting new WINS
> settings"
>    End If
>
>   End If
>  'MsgBox(strMACAdd&","&strWINSOne&","&strWINSTwo&","&strDNSSettings)
>  Next
> Loop
> MsgBox("done")
> ' This is the error trapping subroutine.  It is called after any code is
> executed with the exception of setting variables
> Sub ErrorTrap(strWSName,strMACInfo,errNum,errDesc,strComments)
>  Dim objLogFile
>  If Not objFSO.FileExists("C:\scripts\NICSettings\LogFile.txt") Then 'Check
> for the existence of a log file
>   objFSO.CreateTextFile("C:\scripts\NICSettings\LogFile.txt") 'Create one if
> there is none
>  End If
>  Set objLogFile =
> objFSO.OpenTextFile("C:\scripts\NICSettings\LogFile.txt",8) 'Open the
> logfile for appending
>  objLogFile.WriteLine(Date&" "&Time&": "&strWSName&":"&strMACInfo&" -
> "&strComments&", Error Number:"&errNum&", Error Description: "&errDesc)
> 'Write error info
>  err.Clear 'Clear the error number and allow script to continue
>  objLogFile.Close 'Close the logfile
> End Sub
> 
>
> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
>  wrote:
>>
>>   thso fwaht?!
>>
>> --
>> ME2
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Jonathan Link 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Script lush!
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr
>>>  wrote:

 Its always welcomed to share useful scripts!

 --
 ME2


 On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Sean Martin 
 wrote:
>
> First, thanks for all of the feedback. Some interesting opinions out
> there. I've always been open to change so it's good to hear all of 

Re: Scripting IP Changes on remote devices

[Sean Martin]

So did the script I posted make it to the list? I'm starting to wonder if
some filter may have blocked the e-mail since I just pasted the code in the
body...

- Sean

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr <
michealespin...@gmail.com> wrote:

>   thso fwaht?!
>
> --
> ME2
>
>
>  On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Jonathan Link 
> wrote:
>
>> Script lush!
>>
>>
>>  On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr <
>> michealespin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Its always welcomed to share useful scripts!
>>>
>>> --
>>> ME2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Sean Martin wrote:
>>>
 First, thanks for all of the feedback. Some interesting opinions out
 there. I've always been open to change so it's good to hear all of the
 positives/negatives regarding which route to take. It sounds like DHCP 
 would
 be the way to go with the majority of our servers, excluding the
 infrastructure servers.

 With that said, it's probably a change that will occur through attrition
 rather than changing our current method all at once. The main reason for
 that is our network services department wants us to change the subnets our
 servers currently reside on to further segment stuff. We've got way too 
 much
 work on our plates to investigate changing the addresses on all of our
 servers so that will already be a slow transition.

 In the meantime, a co-worker and I put together what we hope is a
 functional VB script that will make the necessary changes to the existing
 WINs and DNS settings. If anyone's interested in seeing it (and maybe
 reviewing it for validity), I'd be happy to pass it along.

 - Sean

   On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Ben Scott wrote:

> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Sean Martin 
> wrote:
> > What are some of the pros/cons of using DHCP for servers...?
>
>  For an environment like you describe, with hundreds of servers, I
> would recommend DHCP for all but critical network infrastructure
> servers.  I'd use manual configuration for anything serving DHCP, DNS,
> WINS, or Active Directory.  Everything else, DHCP, with reservations.
>
>  Just to be clear: DHCP does not have to mean a dynamic IP address.
> You can statically assign an IP address via a DHCP reservation.  And
> there are tools to help you do things like automatically provision the
> reservations, based on name or MAC address or whatever.
>
> > I've heard mention of not using DHCP to prevent DHCP broadcasts
> > but with a properly designed lease interval, I can't imagine the DHCP
> > traffic being that much of burden on today's networks
>
>  As ME2 says, it really depends on the environment, but I would
> generally agree.  You'll already be needing infrastructure to support
> DNS, prolly Active Directory, possibly WINS, Window Updates, etc.,
> etc.  If DHCP is going to push you over the edge you're already way
> too close to the edge.  :)
>
>  The one thing you *may* notice is a surge in broadcast traffic after
> rebooting or starting a large group of servers -- say, after a
> software update, or a long power outage.  In general, though, you're
> already going to be seeing that due to ARP and maybe NetBIOS
> registration.  So again, if this is a problem you're likely already
> experiencing it.  The usual solution is to stagger reboot/startup.
>
> -- Ben
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>






>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Need WS2008 book recommendation

[Free, Bob]

The unleashed book had a very nice refresh for R2.

http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Server-2008-R2-Unleashed/dp/067233092X/ref
=pd_sim_b_8



-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 10:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Need WS2008 book recommendation

Well, a couple of my clients are getting off the dime and replacing
aging 
systems with Windows Server 2008, so it's time for me to get up to speed
as 
fast as I can.  Looking for recommendations on good books on WS 2008 R2.

O'Reilly has one, and I like O'Reilly books:

Windows Server 2008: The Definitive Guide - O'Reilly Media
http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596514112

but it's dated 2008 so it won't cover R2.  

Anyway, recommendations welcomed.

TIA

Angus

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: mid-tower cases

[Joseph Heaton]

I have a case like that.  Pulls the air right off the CPU heatsink.

>>> "John Aldrich"  5/19/2010 1:44 PM >>>
All good points. I just think that some of the more modern cases have better
cooling opportunities, especially those with side-mounted exhaust fans. I
think Antec (or maybe CoolerMaster) had a case with a "chimney" of sorts
right over where the CPU was expected to be and a case fan on top of that.
:-)

Seriously... while more fans won't always help, they are unlikely to hurt as
long as they are oriented properly. Especially some top-mounted ones (that's
something I may have to try in my existing case!) 




-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: mid-tower cases

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:52 PM, John Aldrich
 wrote:
> Yeah... part of the problem in my current case is there is nowhere to put
an
> intake fan, so all I have is the passive intake at the front.

  If you have a good spread of exhaust fans, the lack of intake fans
won't matter.  What's important is not the number of fans, but their
placement.  You want to maximize air change, and you want to make sure
all the nooks and crannies get air change.  Simply throwing fans at
the problem won't help.  Like someone else pointed out -- that case
made entirely of fans would actually have horrible cooling, because
they all point inwards.

  The theoretical ideal cooling design is probabbly a straight tube
with a single giant intake fan at one end, no exhaust fan, a slight
back-pressure, and a dust filter over the intake.  That way the case
runs at positive pressure and collects no dust.  Oh, and no components
to obstruct airflow.  ;-)

> Typically, I set the thermostat for about 78 when we're leaving
> for the day and drop it down to about 72-73 when I get home.

  Temperature in a given room, or in front of the computer case, can
vary quite a bit from thermostat nominal.  You may want to get a
thermometer with min/max feature and put it right in front of the PC
to see what it says.  I picked one up for like $3 at Wal-Mart once.
I've used it to profile various facilities on the cheap.  I've found
up to 15 degrees difference between spots in some places.

> I did notice that when I have VNC Server running and am accessing the
local
> console the CPU temp climbs, but if I shut down the VNC server it drops
...

  VNC can use a lot of CPU time, so that makes sense.  The processor
will reduce its power usage when its idle, so it produces less heat.

  If you're worried about CPU temperature in particular, try removing
the heatsink, cleaning off the contact surface, applying a new coat of
heatsink grease, and re-seating it.  Sometimes the heatsink just isn't
making good contact with the processor's heat spreader.

  If that doesn't work, investing in a better heatsink+fan is likely a
good idea, as others have suggested.  You don't need one of the
expensive, overly-elaborate "bling" designs, just something that will
make good contact and dissipate the heat well.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

[Alex Eckelberry]

Winner


From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

If that happened, for once Symantec would run like a well oiled machine.


Webster

From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com]
Subject: RE: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

Can anybody just nab Symantec for a change?  Maybe BP.



From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Subject: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20005346-83.html?tag=mncol;title





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

[Andrew S. Baker]

LOL  Too true.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker


On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Phillip Partipilo  wrote:

> Imagine the black hole that might form, and suck CA right in!
>
>
> Phillip Partipilo
> Parametric Solutions Inc.
> Jupiter, Florida
> (561) 747-6107
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:54 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Symantec looking to nab Verisign
>
> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 2:47 PM, David Lum  wrote:
> > http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20005346-83.html?tag=mncol;title
>
>  That would be convenient.  It would concentrate two of the industry
> leaders in incompetence and bad customer service into one company,
> making it easier to avoid them.
>
> -- Ben
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Need WS2008 book recommendation

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

+10 Minasi does a great job. He even answers emails when he has the time.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com


-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Need WS2008 book recommendation

I'm rather fond of Minasi's books:



Please be aware that 2008 and 2008 R2 are as different as Vista and Win7.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Need WS2008 book recommendation

Well, a couple of my clients are getting off the dime and replacing aging 
systems with Windows Server 2008, so it's time for me to get up to speed as 
fast as I can.  Looking for recommendations on good books on WS 2008 R2.

O'Reilly has one, and I like O'Reilly books:

Windows Server 2008: The Definitive Guide - O'Reilly Media
http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596514112

but it's dated 2008 so it won't cover R2.

Anyway, recommendations welcomed.

TIA

Angus

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





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  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


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RE: Need WS2008 book recommendation

[Carol Fee]

Hey, that's pretty neat how you can "look inside" the book on the Amazon site.

CFee

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Need WS2008 book recommendation

I'm rather fond of Minasi's books:



Please be aware that 2008 and 2008 R2 are as different as Vista and Win7.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Need WS2008 book recommendation

Well, a couple of my clients are getting off the dime and replacing aging 
systems with Windows Server 2008, so it's time for me to get up to speed as 
fast as I can.  Looking for recommendations on good books on WS 2008 R2.

O'Reilly has one, and I like O'Reilly books:

Windows Server 2008: The Definitive Guide - O'Reilly Media
http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596514112

but it's dated 2008 so it won't cover R2.  

Anyway, recommendations welcomed.

TIA

Angus

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

[Terry Dickson]

Um.didn't Verisign buy Thawte a few years ago?

From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 3:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

Start buying your Thawte stocks now

- Sean
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:
Installing new versions would be a (tar) ball!

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Kim Longenbaugh 
[mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:39 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

That would be slick

From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 3:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

If that happened, for once Symantec would run like a well oiled machine.


Webster

From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com]
Subject: RE: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

Can anybody just nab Symantec for a change?  Maybe BP.



From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Subject: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20005346-83.html?tag=mncol;title


















~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

[Phillip Partipilo]

Imagine the black hole that might form, and suck CA right in!


Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107



-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 2:47 PM, David Lum  wrote:
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20005346-83.html?tag=mncol;title

  That would be convenient.  It would concentrate two of the industry
leaders in incompetence and bad customer service into one company,
making it easier to avoid them.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

[Ben Scott]

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 2:47 PM, David Lum  wrote:
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20005346-83.html?tag=mncol;title

  That would be convenient.  It would concentrate two of the industry
leaders in incompetence and bad customer service into one company,
making it easier to avoid them.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: mid-tower cases

[Ben Scott]

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 4:44 PM, John Aldrich
 wrote:
> Seriously... while more fans won't always help, they are unlikely to hurt as
> long as they are oriented properly.

  True enough, but "oriented properly" is a big caveat.  For example,
if you have just two case fans, one intake, one exhaust, and the
intake is blowing right at the exhaust, it's likely that all the
airflow will be only between those two fans, and the rest of the case
will be mostly dead air.

  You may think I'm belaboring the obvious, and maybe you're right,
but I've seen several cases with just this sort of design stupidity,
so apparently it needs to be belabored.  :-)

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

[Sean Martin]

Start buying your Thawte stocks now

- Sean

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Michael B. Smith wrote:

>  Installing new versions would be a (tar) ball!
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com 
>
>
>
> *From:* Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:39 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Symantec looking to nab Verisign
>
>
>
> That would be slick
>
>
>
> *From:* Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 19, 2010 3:33 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Symantec looking to nab Verisign
>
>
>
> If that happened, for once Symantec would run like a well oiled machine.
>
>
>
>
>
> Webster
>
>
>
> *From:* Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com]
> *Subject:* RE: Symantec looking to nab Verisign
>
>
>
> Can anybody just nab Symantec for a change?  Maybe BP.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> *Subject:* Symantec looking to nab Verisign
>
>
>
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20005346-83.html?tag=mncol;title
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: mid-tower cases

[John Aldrich]

All good points. I just think that some of the more modern cases have better
cooling opportunities, especially those with side-mounted exhaust fans. I
think Antec (or maybe CoolerMaster) had a case with a "chimney" of sorts
right over where the CPU was expected to be and a case fan on top of that.
:-)

Seriously... while more fans won't always help, they are unlikely to hurt as
long as they are oriented properly. Especially some top-mounted ones (that's
something I may have to try in my existing case!) 




-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: mid-tower cases

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:52 PM, John Aldrich
 wrote:
> Yeah... part of the problem in my current case is there is nowhere to put
an
> intake fan, so all I have is the passive intake at the front.

  If you have a good spread of exhaust fans, the lack of intake fans
won't matter.  What's important is not the number of fans, but their
placement.  You want to maximize air change, and you want to make sure
all the nooks and crannies get air change.  Simply throwing fans at
the problem won't help.  Like someone else pointed out -- that case
made entirely of fans would actually have horrible cooling, because
they all point inwards.

  The theoretical ideal cooling design is probabbly a straight tube
with a single giant intake fan at one end, no exhaust fan, a slight
back-pressure, and a dust filter over the intake.  That way the case
runs at positive pressure and collects no dust.  Oh, and no components
to obstruct airflow.  ;-)

> Typically, I set the thermostat for about 78 when we're leaving
> for the day and drop it down to about 72-73 when I get home.

  Temperature in a given room, or in front of the computer case, can
vary quite a bit from thermostat nominal.  You may want to get a
thermometer with min/max feature and put it right in front of the PC
to see what it says.  I picked one up for like $3 at Wal-Mart once.
I've used it to profile various facilities on the cheap.  I've found
up to 15 degrees difference between spots in some places.

> I did notice that when I have VNC Server running and am accessing the
local
> console the CPU temp climbs, but if I shut down the VNC server it drops
...

  VNC can use a lot of CPU time, so that makes sense.  The processor
will reduce its power usage when its idle, so it produces less heat.

  If you're worried about CPU temperature in particular, try removing
the heatsink, cleaning off the contact surface, applying a new coat of
heatsink grease, and re-seating it.  Sometimes the heatsink just isn't
making good contact with the processor's heat spreader.

  If that doesn't work, investing in a better heatsink+fan is likely a
good idea, as others have suggested.  You don't need one of the
expensive, overly-elaborate "bling" designs, just something that will
make good contact and dissipate the heat well.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

[Michael B. Smith]

Installing new versions would be a (tar) ball!

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

That would be slick

From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 3:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

If that happened, for once Symantec would run like a well oiled machine.


Webster

From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com]
Subject: RE: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

Can anybody just nab Symantec for a change?  Maybe BP.



From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Subject: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20005346-83.html?tag=mncol;title









~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

[Kim Longenbaugh]

That would be slick

 

From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 3:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

 

If that happened, for once Symantec would run like a well oiled machine.

 

 

Webster

 

From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] 
Subject: RE: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

 

Can anybody just nab Symantec for a change?  Maybe BP.

 

 

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Subject: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

 

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20005346-83.html?tag=mncol;title

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: mid-tower cases

[Ben Scott]

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:52 PM, John Aldrich
 wrote:
> Yeah... part of the problem in my current case is there is nowhere to put an
> intake fan, so all I have is the passive intake at the front.

  If you have a good spread of exhaust fans, the lack of intake fans
won't matter.  What's important is not the number of fans, but their
placement.  You want to maximize air change, and you want to make sure
all the nooks and crannies get air change.  Simply throwing fans at
the problem won't help.  Like someone else pointed out -- that case
made entirely of fans would actually have horrible cooling, because
they all point inwards.

  The theoretical ideal cooling design is probabbly a straight tube
with a single giant intake fan at one end, no exhaust fan, a slight
back-pressure, and a dust filter over the intake.  That way the case
runs at positive pressure and collects no dust.  Oh, and no components
to obstruct airflow.  ;-)

> Typically, I set the thermostat for about 78 when we're leaving
> for the day and drop it down to about 72-73 when I get home.

  Temperature in a given room, or in front of the computer case, can
vary quite a bit from thermostat nominal.  You may want to get a
thermometer with min/max feature and put it right in front of the PC
to see what it says.  I picked one up for like $3 at Wal-Mart once.
I've used it to profile various facilities on the cheap.  I've found
up to 15 degrees difference between spots in some places.

> I did notice that when I have VNC Server running and am accessing the local
> console the CPU temp climbs, but if I shut down the VNC server it drops ...

  VNC can use a lot of CPU time, so that makes sense.  The processor
will reduce its power usage when its idle, so it produces less heat.

  If you're worried about CPU temperature in particular, try removing
the heatsink, cleaning off the contact surface, applying a new coat of
heatsink grease, and re-seating it.  Sometimes the heatsink just isn't
making good contact with the processor's heat spreader.

  If that doesn't work, investing in a better heatsink+fan is likely a
good idea, as others have suggested.  You don't need one of the
expensive, overly-elaborate "bling" designs, just something that will
make good contact and dissipate the heat well.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

[Webster]

If that happened, for once Symantec would run like a well oiled machine.

 

 

Webster

 

From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] 
Subject: RE: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

 

Can anybody just nab Symantec for a change?  Maybe BP.

 

 

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Subject: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

 

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20005346-83.html?tag=mncol;title


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Scripting IP Changes on remote devices

[Sean Martin]

By the way, I can't take any credit for this one. My co-worker put it
together.

- Sean

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Sean Martin wrote:

>   As promised. IP addresses have been changed to protect the innocent. The
> script relies on a text file with server names. I'm sure there will be
> questions as to why it was written the way it was so I'll do my best to
> answer those as they come up.
>
> 
> Option Explicit
> 'On Error Resume Next
> 'Variable Declarations
> Dim
> arrNewDNSServers,objWMIService,colNetCards,objNetCard,arrCurrentDNS,strWINSOne,strWINSTwo,strMACAdd
> Dim
> objFSO,objFileList,strLine,i,strWINSPrime,strWINSSec,strDNSPrime,strDNSSec
> strWINSPrime="10.10.10.10"
> strWINSSec="10.10.10.11"
> strDNSPrime="10.10.10.12"
> strDNSSec="10.10.10.13"
> Set objFSO=CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject") 'Create the
> FileSystemObject for accessing the filesystem on the local pc
> Set
> objFileList=objFSO.OpenTextFile("c:\Scripts\NICSettings\ServerList.txt",1)
> 'Open the list file
> ErrorTrap "NULL","NULL",err.Number,err.Description,"Opening List File"
>
> arrNewDNSServers = Array(strDNSPrime,strDNSSec) 'Array containing new DNS
> information
> 'Loop through the list file.
> Do Until objFileList.AtEndOfStream
>  strLine = objFileList.ReadLine 'Read a line from the list file
>  ErrorTrap strLine,"NULL",err.Number,err.Description,"Reading List File"
>
>  Set objWMIService = GetObject("winmgmts:\\"&strLine&"\root\CIMV2")'Connect
> to the remote WMI
>  ErrorTrap strLine,"NULL",err.Number,err.Description,"Setting
> objWMIService"
>
>  Set colNetCards=objWMIService.ExecQuery("Select * From
> Win32_NetworkAdapterConfiguration")'Query the remote network adapters
>  ErrorTrap strLine,"NULL",err.Number,err.Description,"Loading Network
> Cards"
>  For Each objNetCard in colNetCards 'Loop through each network adapter
>   strMACAdd=objNetCard.MACAddress 'Load the remote MAC to a variable
>   ErrorTrap strLine,"NULL",err.Number,err.Description,"Loading MAC Address
> into variable"
>   arrCurrentDNS=objNetCard.DNSServerSearchOrder 'Load current DNS into a
> variable
>   ErrorTrap strLine,strMACAdd,err.Number,err.Description,"Loading DNS
> settings into an array"
>   strWINSOne=objNetCard.WINSPrimaryServer 'Load primary WINS server into a
> variable
>   ErrorTrap strLine,strMACAdd,err.Number,err.Description,"Loading primary
> WINS server into variable"
>   strWINSTwo=objNetCard.WINSSecondaryServer 'Load secondary WINS server
> into a variable
>   ErrorTrap strLine,strMACAdd,err.Number,err.Description,"Loading secondary
> WINS server into variable"
>
>   If objNetCard.DHCPEnabled=False Then 'Check if DHCP is enabled.  If not,
> proceed.
>
>If Not IsNull(arrCurrentDNS) Then 'Check if there are currently any DNS
> settings
> For i = 0 to UBound(arrCurrentDNS) 'Cycle through DNS servers
>  If (arrCurrentDNS(i)="20.20.20.20") Then 'Look for old DNS info, if
> found, proceed.
>   objNetCard.SetDNSServerSearchOrder(arrNewDNSServers)'Set new DNS info
>   ErrorTrap strLine,strMACAdd,err.Number,err.Description,"Setting New
> DNS Settings"
>   'Exit For
>  End If
> Next
>End If
>If strWINSONE="20.20.20.20" or strWINSOne = "20.20.20.21" Then 'Check
> for old WINS info. If found, proceed.
> objNetCard.SetWINSServer strWINSPrime,strWINSSec ' Set new WINS info
> ErrorTrap strLine,strMACAdd,err.Number,err.Description,"Setting new
> WINS settings"
>End If
>
>   End If
>  'MsgBox(strMACAdd&","&strWINSOne&","&strWINSTwo&","&strDNSSettings)
>  Next
> Loop
> MsgBox("done")
> ' This is the error trapping subroutine.  It is called after any code is
> executed with the exception of setting variables
> Sub ErrorTrap(strWSName,strMACInfo,errNum,errDesc,strComments)
>  Dim objLogFile
>  If Not objFSO.FileExists("C:\scripts\NICSettings\LogFile.txt") Then 'Check
> for the existence of a log file
>   objFSO.CreateTextFile("C:\scripts\NICSettings\LogFile.txt") 'Create one
> if there is none
>  End If
>  Set objLogFile =
> objFSO.OpenTextFile("C:\scripts\NICSettings\LogFile.txt",8) 'Open the
> logfile for appending
>  objLogFile.WriteLine(Date&" "&Time&": "&strWSName&":"&strMACInfo&" -
> "&strComments&", Error Number:"&errNum&", Error Description: "&errDesc)
> 'Write error info
>  err.Clear 'Clear the error number and allow script to continue
>  objLogFile.Close 'Close the logfile
> End Sub
> 
>
>   On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr <
> michealespin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>   thso fwaht?!
>>
>> --
>> ME2
>>
>>
>>  On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Jonathan Link 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Script lush!
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr <
>>> michealespin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Its always welcomed to share useful scripts!

 --
 ME2



 On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Sean Martin wrote:

> First, t

Re: Scripting IP Changes on remote devices

[Sean Martin]

As promised. IP addresses have been changed to protect the innocent. The
script relies on a text file with server names. I'm sure there will be
questions as to why it was written the way it was so I'll do my best to
answer those as they come up.


Option Explicit
'On Error Resume Next
'Variable Declarations
Dim
arrNewDNSServers,objWMIService,colNetCards,objNetCard,arrCurrentDNS,strWINSOne,strWINSTwo,strMACAdd
Dim
objFSO,objFileList,strLine,i,strWINSPrime,strWINSSec,strDNSPrime,strDNSSec
strWINSPrime="10.10.10.10"
strWINSSec="10.10.10.11"
strDNSPrime="10.10.10.12"
strDNSSec="10.10.10.13"
Set objFSO=CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject") 'Create the
FileSystemObject for accessing the filesystem on the local pc
Set
objFileList=objFSO.OpenTextFile("c:\Scripts\NICSettings\ServerList.txt",1)
'Open the list file
ErrorTrap "NULL","NULL",err.Number,err.Description,"Opening List File"

arrNewDNSServers = Array(strDNSPrime,strDNSSec) 'Array containing new DNS
information
'Loop through the list file.
Do Until objFileList.AtEndOfStream
 strLine = objFileList.ReadLine 'Read a line from the list file
 ErrorTrap strLine,"NULL",err.Number,err.Description,"Reading List File"

 Set objWMIService = GetObject("winmgmts:\\"&strLine&"\root\CIMV2")'Connect
to the remote WMI
 ErrorTrap strLine,"NULL",err.Number,err.Description,"Setting objWMIService"

 Set colNetCards=objWMIService.ExecQuery("Select * From
Win32_NetworkAdapterConfiguration")'Query the remote network adapters
 ErrorTrap strLine,"NULL",err.Number,err.Description,"Loading Network Cards"
 For Each objNetCard in colNetCards 'Loop through each network adapter
  strMACAdd=objNetCard.MACAddress 'Load the remote MAC to a variable
  ErrorTrap strLine,"NULL",err.Number,err.Description,"Loading MAC Address
into variable"
  arrCurrentDNS=objNetCard.DNSServerSearchOrder 'Load current DNS into a
variable
  ErrorTrap strLine,strMACAdd,err.Number,err.Description,"Loading DNS
settings into an array"
  strWINSOne=objNetCard.WINSPrimaryServer 'Load primary WINS server into a
variable
  ErrorTrap strLine,strMACAdd,err.Number,err.Description,"Loading primary
WINS server into variable"
  strWINSTwo=objNetCard.WINSSecondaryServer 'Load secondary WINS server into
a variable
  ErrorTrap strLine,strMACAdd,err.Number,err.Description,"Loading secondary
WINS server into variable"

  If objNetCard.DHCPEnabled=False Then 'Check if DHCP is enabled.  If not,
proceed.

   If Not IsNull(arrCurrentDNS) Then 'Check if there are currently any DNS
settings
For i = 0 to UBound(arrCurrentDNS) 'Cycle through DNS servers
 If (arrCurrentDNS(i)="20.20.20.20") Then 'Look for old DNS info, if
found, proceed.
  objNetCard.SetDNSServerSearchOrder(arrNewDNSServers)'Set new DNS info
  ErrorTrap strLine,strMACAdd,err.Number,err.Description,"Setting New
DNS Settings"
  'Exit For
 End If
Next
   End If
   If strWINSONE="20.20.20.20" or strWINSOne = "20.20.20.21" Then 'Check for
old WINS info. If found, proceed.
objNetCard.SetWINSServer strWINSPrime,strWINSSec ' Set new WINS info
ErrorTrap strLine,strMACAdd,err.Number,err.Description,"Setting new WINS
settings"
   End If

  End If
 'MsgBox(strMACAdd&","&strWINSOne&","&strWINSTwo&","&strDNSSettings)
 Next
Loop
MsgBox("done")
' This is the error trapping subroutine.  It is called after any code is
executed with the exception of setting variables
Sub ErrorTrap(strWSName,strMACInfo,errNum,errDesc,strComments)
 Dim objLogFile
 If Not objFSO.FileExists("C:\scripts\NICSettings\LogFile.txt") Then 'Check
for the existence of a log file
  objFSO.CreateTextFile("C:\scripts\NICSettings\LogFile.txt") 'Create one if
there is none
 End If
 Set objLogFile =
objFSO.OpenTextFile("C:\scripts\NICSettings\LogFile.txt",8) 'Open the
logfile for appending
 objLogFile.WriteLine(Date&" "&Time&": "&strWSName&":"&strMACInfo&" -
"&strComments&", Error Number:"&errNum&", Error Description: "&errDesc)
'Write error info
 err.Clear 'Clear the error number and allow script to continue
 objLogFile.Close 'Close the logfile
End Sub


On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr <
michealespin...@gmail.com> wrote:

>   thso fwaht?!
>
> --
> ME2
>
>
>  On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Jonathan Link 
> wrote:
>
>> Script lush!
>>
>>
>>  On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr <
>> michealespin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Its always welcomed to share useful scripts!
>>>
>>> --
>>> ME2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Sean Martin wrote:
>>>
 First, thanks for all of the feedback. Some interesting opinions out
 there. I've always been open to change so it's good to hear all of the
 positives/negatives regarding which route to take. It sounds like DHCP 
 would
 be the way to go with the majority of our servers, excluding the
 infrastructure servers.

 With that said, it's probably a change that

Re: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

[Andrew S. Baker]

I love your brand of sarcasm!

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker


On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:

> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 11:47, David Lum  wrote:
> > http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20005346-83.html?tag=mncol;title
>
> Yes, that's guaranteed to make all our lives better...
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

[Vicky Spelshaus]

You sir owe me a keyboard!

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Phillip Partipilo  wrote:

>  Can anybody just nab Symantec for a change?  Maybe BP.
>
>
>
>
>
> Phillip Partipilo
>
> Parametric Solutions Inc.
>
> Jupiter, Florida
>
> (561) 747-6107
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 19, 2010 2:47 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Symantec looking to nab Verisign
>
>
>
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20005346-83.html?tag=mncol;title
>
> *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER
> NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
> (Desk) 971.222.1025 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
Organization and good planning are just crutches for people that can't
handle stress and caffeine. - unknown

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

[Phillip Partipilo]

Can anybody just nab Symantec for a change?  Maybe BP.


Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107


From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 2:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20005346-83.html?tag=mncol;title
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764







~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Get User with Group membership in a file.

[Kurt Buff]

I use a variant of that when terminating an employee to document the
group memberships so that I can quickly populate the groups for the
replacement:

adfind -b dc=example,dc=com -f "samaccountname=joeuser" memberof > out.txt

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:10, David W. McSpadden  wrote:
> Thanks
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 3:07 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Get User with Group membership in a file.
>
> adfind -b ou=users,dc=imcu,dc=local -f "objectcategory=person" -csv
> -nodn displayname memberof > out.txt
>
> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:57, David McSpadden  wrote:
>>
>> I have to get all my ad users and their group membership to a file and I
> have them in two CN’s
>>
>>
>>
>> On Error Resume Next
>>
>>
>>
>> Const E_ADS_PROPERTY_NOT_FOUND  = &h8000500D
>>
>>
>>
>> Set objOU = GetObject _
>>
>>     ("LDAP://cn=Users,dc=imcu,dc=local")
>>
>>
>>
>> ObjOU.Filter= Array("user")
>>
>>
>>
>> For Each objUser in objOU
>>
>>     WScript.Echo objUser.cn & " is a member of: "
>>
>>     WScript.Echo vbTab & "Primary Group ID: " & _
>>
>>     objUser.Get("primaryGroupID")
>>
>>
>>
>>     arrMemberOf = objUser.GetEx("memberOf")
>>
>>
>>
>>     If Err.Number <>  E_ADS_PROPERTY_NOT_FOUND Then
>>
>>     For Each Group in arrMemberOf
>>
>>     WScript.Echo vbTab & Group
>>
>>     Next
>>
>>     Else
>>
>>     WScript.Echo vbTab & "memberOf attribute is not set"
>>
>>     Err.Clear
>>
>>     End If
>>
>>     Wscript.Echo
>>
>> Next
>>
>>
>>
>> I also have a Cn No ScreenSaver Personnel.  But when I put it into the
> above I get 0.
>>
>>
>>
>> “Please consider the environment before printing this email.”
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Symantec looking to nab Verisign

[Kurt Buff]

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 11:47, David Lum  wrote:
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20005346-83.html?tag=mncol;title

Yes, that's guaranteed to make all our lives better...

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Get User with Group membership in a file.

[David W. McSpadden]

Thanks

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 3:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Get User with Group membership in a file.

adfind -b ou=users,dc=imcu,dc=local -f "objectcategory=person" -csv
-nodn displayname memberof > out.txt

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:57, David McSpadden  wrote:
>
> I have to get all my ad users and their group membership to a file and I
have them in two CN’s
>
>
>
> On Error Resume Next
>
>
>
> Const E_ADS_PROPERTY_NOT_FOUND  = &h8000500D
>
>
>
> Set objOU = GetObject _
>
>     ("LDAP://cn=Users,dc=imcu,dc=local")
>
>
>
> ObjOU.Filter= Array("user")
>
>
>
> For Each objUser in objOU
>
>     WScript.Echo objUser.cn & " is a member of: "
>
>     WScript.Echo vbTab & "Primary Group ID: " & _
>
>     objUser.Get("primaryGroupID")
>
>
>
>     arrMemberOf = objUser.GetEx("memberOf")
>
>
>
>     If Err.Number <>  E_ADS_PROPERTY_NOT_FOUND Then
>
>     For Each Group in arrMemberOf
>
>     WScript.Echo vbTab & Group
>
>     Next
>
>     Else
>
>     WScript.Echo vbTab & "memberOf attribute is not set"
>
>     Err.Clear
>
>     End If
>
>     Wscript.Echo
>
> Next
>
>
>
> I also have a Cn No ScreenSaver Personnel.  But when I put it into the
above I get 0.
>
>
>
> “Please consider the environment before printing this email.”
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Get User with Group membership in a file.

[Kurt Buff]

adfind -b ou=users,dc=imcu,dc=local -f "objectcategory=person" -csv
-nodn displayname memberof > out.txt

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:57, David McSpadden  wrote:
>
> I have to get all my ad users and their group membership to a file and I have 
> them in two CN’s
>
>
>
> On Error Resume Next
>
>
>
> Const E_ADS_PROPERTY_NOT_FOUND  = &h8000500D
>
>
>
> Set objOU = GetObject _
>
>     ("LDAP://cn=Users,dc=imcu,dc=local")
>
>
>
> ObjOU.Filter= Array("user")
>
>
>
> For Each objUser in objOU
>
>     WScript.Echo objUser.cn & " is a member of: "
>
>     WScript.Echo vbTab & "Primary Group ID: " & _
>
>     objUser.Get("primaryGroupID")
>
>
>
>     arrMemberOf = objUser.GetEx("memberOf")
>
>
>
>     If Err.Number <>  E_ADS_PROPERTY_NOT_FOUND Then
>
>     For Each Group in arrMemberOf
>
>     WScript.Echo vbTab & Group
>
>     Next
>
>     Else
>
>     WScript.Echo vbTab & "memberOf attribute is not set"
>
>     Err.Clear
>
>     End If
>
>     Wscript.Echo
>
> Next
>
>
>
> I also have a Cn No ScreenSaver Personnel.  But when I put it into the above 
> I get 0.
>
>
>
> “Please consider the environment before printing this email.”
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Symantec looking to nab Verisign

[David Lum]

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20005346-83.html?tag=mncol;title
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Scripting IP Changes on remote devices

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

  thso fwaht?!

--
ME2


On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Jonathan Link wrote:

> Script lush!
>
>
> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr <
> michealespin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Its always welcomed to share useful scripts!
>>
>> --
>> ME2
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Sean Martin wrote:
>>
>>> First, thanks for all of the feedback. Some interesting opinions out
>>> there. I've always been open to change so it's good to hear all of the
>>> positives/negatives regarding which route to take. It sounds like DHCP would
>>> be the way to go with the majority of our servers, excluding the
>>> infrastructure servers.
>>>
>>> With that said, it's probably a change that will occur through attrition
>>> rather than changing our current method all at once. The main reason for
>>> that is our network services department wants us to change the subnets our
>>> servers currently reside on to further segment stuff. We've got way too much
>>> work on our plates to investigate changing the addresses on all of our
>>> servers so that will already be a slow transition.
>>>
>>> In the meantime, a co-worker and I put together what we hope is a
>>> functional VB script that will make the necessary changes to the existing
>>> WINs and DNS settings. If anyone's interested in seeing it (and maybe
>>> reviewing it for validity), I'd be happy to pass it along.
>>>
>>> - Sean
>>>
>>>   On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Ben Scott wrote:
>>>
 On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Sean Martin 
 wrote:
 > What are some of the pros/cons of using DHCP for servers...?

  For an environment like you describe, with hundreds of servers, I
 would recommend DHCP for all but critical network infrastructure
 servers.  I'd use manual configuration for anything serving DHCP, DNS,
 WINS, or Active Directory.  Everything else, DHCP, with reservations.

  Just to be clear: DHCP does not have to mean a dynamic IP address.
 You can statically assign an IP address via a DHCP reservation.  And
 there are tools to help you do things like automatically provision the
 reservations, based on name or MAC address or whatever.

 > I've heard mention of not using DHCP to prevent DHCP broadcasts
 > but with a properly designed lease interval, I can't imagine the DHCP
 > traffic being that much of burden on today's networks

  As ME2 says, it really depends on the environment, but I would
 generally agree.  You'll already be needing infrastructure to support
 DNS, prolly Active Directory, possibly WINS, Window Updates, etc.,
 etc.  If DHCP is going to push you over the edge you're already way
 too close to the edge.  :)

  The one thing you *may* notice is a surge in broadcast traffic after
 rebooting or starting a large group of servers -- say, after a
 software update, or a long power outage.  In general, though, you're
 already going to be seeing that due to ARP and maybe NetBIOS
 registration.  So again, if this is a problem you're likely already
 experiencing it.  The usual solution is to stagger reboot/startup.

 -- Ben

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~   ~

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Get User with Group membership in a file.

[David W. McSpadden]

Got it.

Thansk

 

  _  

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 2:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Get User with Group membership in a file.

 

Anywhere the ds* tools are installed.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 2:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Get User with Group membership in a file.

 

Ran from the DC?

 

  _  

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 2:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Get User with Group membership in a file.

 

Dunno why it fails for you, but this is much easier:

 

dsquery * forestroot -filter objectcategory=user -attr cn memberOf

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: David McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Get User with Group membership in a file.

 

I have to get all my ad users and their group membership to a file and I
have them in two CN's

 

On Error Resume Next

 

Const E_ADS_PROPERTY_NOT_FOUND  = &h8000500D

 

Set objOU = GetObject _

("LDAP://cn=Users,dc=imcu,dc=local")

  

ObjOU.Filter= Array("user")

 

For Each objUser in objOU

WScript.Echo objUser.cn & " is a member of: " 

WScript.Echo vbTab & "Primary Group ID: " & _

objUser.Get("primaryGroupID")

  

arrMemberOf = objUser.GetEx("memberOf")

  

If Err.Number <>  E_ADS_PROPERTY_NOT_FOUND Then

For Each Group in arrMemberOf

WScript.Echo vbTab & Group

Next

Else

WScript.Echo vbTab & "memberOf attribute is not set"

Err.Clear

End If

Wscript.Echo 

Next

 

I also have a Cn No ScreenSaver Personnel.  But when I put it into the above
I get 0.

 

"Please consider the environment before printing this email."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<>

RE: Get User with Group membership in a file.

[Michael B. Smith]

Anywhere the ds* tools are installed...

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 2:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Get User with Group membership in a file.

Ran from the DC?


From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 2:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Get User with Group membership in a file.

Dunno why it fails for you, but this is much easier:

dsquery * forestroot -filter objectcategory=user -attr cn memberOf

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: David McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Get User with Group membership in a file.

I have to get all my ad users and their group membership to a file and I have 
them in two CN's

On Error Resume Next

Const E_ADS_PROPERTY_NOT_FOUND  = &h8000500D

Set objOU = GetObject _
("LDAP://cn=Users,dc=imcu,dc=local")

ObjOU.Filter= Array("user")

For Each objUser in objOU
WScript.Echo objUser.cn & " is a member of: "
WScript.Echo vbTab & "Primary Group ID: " & _
objUser.Get("primaryGroupID")

arrMemberOf = objUser.GetEx("memberOf")

If Err.Number <>  E_ADS_PROPERTY_NOT_FOUND Then
For Each Group in arrMemberOf
WScript.Echo vbTab & Group
Next
Else
WScript.Echo vbTab & "memberOf attribute is not set"
Err.Clear
End If
Wscript.Echo
Next

I also have a Cn No ScreenSaver Personnel.  But when I put it into the above I 
get 0.

"Please consider the environment before printing this email."
[cid:image001.gif@01CAF75F.5EE63760]














~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<>

RE: Friday "Meet the developers" at Sunbelt

[Don Guyer]

Wait for the first rainfall containing oil droplets...

Don Guyer
Systems Engineer - Information Services
Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
431 W. Lancaster Avenue
Devon, PA 19333
Direct: (610) 993-3299
Fax: (610) 650-5306
don.gu...@prufoxroach.com


-Original Message-
From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 2:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday "Meet the developers" at Sunbelt

No oil but we did have the smell of burning oil a week and a half ago. 

That's about it for drama. 

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday "Meet the developers" at Sunbelt

You guys getting any oil yet, Stu?

>>> Stu Sjouwerman  5/19/2010 10:34 AM >>>
Oh, that's the "Sunbelt Concrete Shoes Crew" - (the gulf is 5 minutes
away)

Warm regards,


Stu Sjouwerman
Co-Founder, Publisher, Sunbelt Media
P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218
F: +1-727-562-5199
s...@sunbelt-software.com 




From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 7:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday "Meet the developers" at Sunbelt

Who's disposing of the bodies?

--
ME2

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Kurt Buff
mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Who's paying the airfare?

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 14:36, Alex Eckelberry
mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com>> wrote:
> Hat tip for Greg Sweers for organizing this, we are inviting a small 
> group of admins to come to the Sunbelt offices in Clearwater, Florida 
> to meet all Friday afternoon with the VIPRE Enterprise development 
> team.  The purpose will be to provide feedback and direction to our 
> development team in making the next versions of VIPRE.
>
> We have a small group, but I'm opening it up to any others that might 
> want to come.  This will be a very direct, personal meeting with the
dev team.
>
> If anyone on the list would like to come to the meeting, please 
> contact me directly.
>
> Alex
>
>
>
>
>
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  ~






...

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday "Meet the developers" at Sunbelt

[Alex Eckelberry]

No oil but we did have the smell of burning oil a week and a half ago. 

That's about it for drama. 

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday "Meet the developers" at Sunbelt

You guys getting any oil yet, Stu?

>>> Stu Sjouwerman  5/19/2010 10:34 AM >>>
Oh, that's the "Sunbelt Concrete Shoes Crew" - (the gulf is 5 minutes away)

Warm regards,


Stu Sjouwerman
Co-Founder, Publisher, Sunbelt Media
P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218
F: +1-727-562-5199
s...@sunbelt-software.com 




From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 7:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday "Meet the developers" at Sunbelt

Who's disposing of the bodies?

--
ME2

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Kurt Buff 
mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Who's paying the airfare?

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 14:36, Alex Eckelberry 
mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com>> wrote:
> Hat tip for Greg Sweers for organizing this, we are inviting a small 
> group of admins to come to the Sunbelt offices in Clearwater, Florida 
> to meet all Friday afternoon with the VIPRE Enterprise development 
> team.  The purpose will be to provide feedback and direction to our 
> development team in making the next versions of VIPRE.
>
> We have a small group, but I'm opening it up to any others that might 
> want to come.  This will be a very direct, personal meeting with the dev team.
>
> If anyone on the list would like to come to the meeting, please 
> contact me directly.
>
> Alex
>
>
>
>
>
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
  ~






...

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Get User with Group membership in a file.

[David W. McSpadden]

Ran from the DC?

 

  _  

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 2:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Get User with Group membership in a file.

 

Dunno why it fails for you, but this is much easier:

 

dsquery * forestroot -filter objectcategory=user -attr cn memberOf

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: David McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Get User with Group membership in a file.

 

I have to get all my ad users and their group membership to a file and I
have them in two CN's

 

On Error Resume Next

 

Const E_ADS_PROPERTY_NOT_FOUND  = &h8000500D

 

Set objOU = GetObject _

("LDAP://cn=Users,dc=imcu,dc=local")

  

ObjOU.Filter= Array("user")

 

For Each objUser in objOU

WScript.Echo objUser.cn & " is a member of: " 

WScript.Echo vbTab & "Primary Group ID: " & _

objUser.Get("primaryGroupID")

  

arrMemberOf = objUser.GetEx("memberOf")

  

If Err.Number <>  E_ADS_PROPERTY_NOT_FOUND Then

For Each Group in arrMemberOf

WScript.Echo vbTab & Group

Next

Else

WScript.Echo vbTab & "memberOf attribute is not set"

Err.Clear

End If

Wscript.Echo 

Next

 

I also have a Cn No ScreenSaver Personnel.  But when I put it into the above
I get 0.

 

"Please consider the environment before printing this email."

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<>

RE: Get User with Group membership in a file.

[Michael B. Smith]

Dunno why it fails for you, but this is much easier:

dsquery * forestroot -filter objectcategory=user -attr cn memberOf

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: David McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Get User with Group membership in a file.

I have to get all my ad users and their group membership to a file and I have 
them in two CN's

On Error Resume Next

Const E_ADS_PROPERTY_NOT_FOUND  = &h8000500D

Set objOU = GetObject _
("LDAP://cn=Users,dc=imcu,dc=local")

ObjOU.Filter= Array("user")

For Each objUser in objOU
WScript.Echo objUser.cn & " is a member of: "
WScript.Echo vbTab & "Primary Group ID: " & _
objUser.Get("primaryGroupID")

arrMemberOf = objUser.GetEx("memberOf")

If Err.Number <>  E_ADS_PROPERTY_NOT_FOUND Then
For Each Group in arrMemberOf
WScript.Echo vbTab & Group
Next
Else
WScript.Echo vbTab & "memberOf attribute is not set"
Err.Clear
End If
Wscript.Echo
Next

I also have a Cn No ScreenSaver Personnel.  But when I put it into the above I 
get 0.

"Please consider the environment before printing this email."
[cid:image001.gif@01CAF75D.132D3730]






~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<>

Get User with Group membership in a file.

[David McSpadden]

I have to get all my ad users and their group membership to a file and I
have them in two CN's

 

On Error Resume Next

 

Const E_ADS_PROPERTY_NOT_FOUND  = &h8000500D

 

Set objOU = GetObject _

("LDAP://cn=Users,dc=imcu,dc=local")

  

ObjOU.Filter= Array("user")

 

For Each objUser in objOU

WScript.Echo objUser.cn & " is a member of: " 

WScript.Echo vbTab & "Primary Group ID: " & _

objUser.Get("primaryGroupID")

  

arrMemberOf = objUser.GetEx("memberOf")

  

If Err.Number <>  E_ADS_PROPERTY_NOT_FOUND Then

For Each Group in arrMemberOf

WScript.Echo vbTab & Group

Next

Else

WScript.Echo vbTab & "memberOf attribute is not set"

Err.Clear

End If

Wscript.Echo 

Next

 

I also have a Cn No ScreenSaver Personnel.  But when I put it into the
above I get 0.

 

"Please consider the environment before printing this email."

 

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<>

Re: mid-tower cases

[James Kerr]

I have an Antec 300 at home and its a really nice case also. You can stick 2 
120mm fans on the front of it, I have fans in the back and top of it as well. 
The 120mm fans are nice because they move more air with much less noise then an 
80. I think the fan on the top of the case is like 160mm.

James
  - Original Message - 
  From: Greg Olson 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:03 PM
  Subject: RE: mid-tower cases


  Funny, I just picked up 3 Antec 900 cases for $15.00 from a local computer 
recycler. They we're going to throw them away.

  J

   

   

  From: Matt Cross [mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com] 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 9:55 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: mid-tower cases

   

  Antec 900 is my favorite case -- great airflow, quiet fans -- with all fans 
on low, have never had an i7 system overheat in it.


   

  Its little brother, the Antec 300, is pretty good, but does not come with the 
front fans -- still has good airflow.



  --
  Matt Cross
  mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com



  On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:16 PM, John Aldrich  
wrote:

  My current machine at home is running *very* hot. I have to have a powerful 
fan pointed almost directly at the CPU in order to keep it from overheating. 
That's with a couple 80mm fans in the back! I think it's time to get a new case 
that's built for temperature control. Any suggestions? I'm not overclocking my 
CPU or anything, it just runs hot!

  I'd prefer to keep a new case below about $50-75, max. If you have any 
particular cases in mind, can you post a link to where they can be found 
on-line? I prefer NewEgg, as they tend to honor their rebates. TigerDirect will 
use any excuse to keep from paying rebates! L

   



   

   

  

   

 


 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

RE: Friday "Meet the developers" at Sunbelt

[Joseph Heaton]

You guys getting any oil yet, Stu?

>>> Stu Sjouwerman  5/19/2010 10:34 AM >>>
Oh, that's the "Sunbelt Concrete Shoes Crew" - (the gulf is 5 minutes away)

Warm regards,


Stu Sjouwerman
Co-Founder, Publisher, Sunbelt Media
P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218
F: +1-727-562-5199
s...@sunbelt-software.com 




From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 7:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday "Meet the developers" at Sunbelt

Who's disposing of the bodies?

--
ME2

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Kurt Buff 
mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Who's paying the airfare?

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 14:36, Alex Eckelberry
mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com>> wrote:
> Hat tip for Greg Sweers for organizing this, we are inviting a small group
> of admins to come to the Sunbelt offices in Clearwater, Florida to meet all
> Friday afternoon with the VIPRE Enterprise development team.  The purpose
> will be to provide feedback and direction to our development team in making
> the next versions of VIPRE.
>
> We have a small group, but I'm opening it up to any others that might want
> to come.  This will be a very direct, personal meeting with the dev team.
>
> If anyone on the list would like to come to the meeting, please contact me
> directly.
>
> Alex
>
>
>
>
>
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~






...

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Need WS2008 book recommendation

[Michael B. Smith]

Speaking of which, his latest is due next month:



Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Need WS2008 book recommendation

Always look for books by Mark Russinovich

http://www.amazon.com/Windows(r)-Internals-Including-Windows-PRO-Developer/dp/0735625301/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpi_1

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming 
mailto:angu...@geoapps.com>> wrote:
Well, a couple of my clients are getting off the dime and replacing aging
systems with Windows Server 2008, so it's time for me to get up to speed as
fast as I can.  Looking for recommendations on good books on WS 2008 R2.

O'Reilly has one, and I like O'Reilly books:

   Windows Server 2008: The Definitive Guide - O'Reilly Media
   http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596514112

but it's dated 2008 so it won't cover R2.

Anyway, recommendations welcomed.

TIA

Angus

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/







~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Weird folder redirection issue

[Miller Bonnie L .]

Never seen that particular error, but we use a similar structure, except that 
the desktop and my documents both go to a non-shared area in the same 
subfolder.  But we used to have a lot of issues with Desktop redirection if the 
user did not have full control over the folder.  We finally pinned it down to 
the fact that the Desktop is really part of the profile, which requires full 
control.  So for example, if the folder is redirected to 
\\stafffiles\stafffolder\, it should create 
the desktop folder underneath.  If either the share or NTFS permissions are not 
full control, it can't create the desktop folder or files within it and the 
entire redirection process fails.  Just thinking this might be what is 
happening in your case.  Maybe something specific to the permissions those 
users have?

BTW, the above stuff for us is all XP and WS03-we'll have to test things out 
still with W7.

-Bonnie

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 2:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Weird folder redirection issue

I have configured Start Menu and Desktop redirection to a shared area on a 
fileserver via GPO. The idea is that the shortcuts for all our applications sit 
in this shared area, and the NTFS permissions on the shortcuts control what 
users can see/use. This seems to be working quite well - however, for one or 
two users, I get the error shown below when they log on

[cid:image001.jpg@01CAF740.1565EF50]

This only seems to happen on certain terminal servers (the users are logging in 
via Citrix XenApp), but whenever I try to recreate it with a test user, it 
works fine. Google is not showing me very many hints - has anyone seen this 
before, or have any idea what is causing it?

Cheers,


JRR

--
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the 
machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly 
to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question."





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<>

Re: Need WS2008 book recommendation

[Andrew S. Baker]

+1

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker


On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Michael B. Smith wrote:

> I'm rather fond of Minasi's books:
>
> <
> http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=minasi+2008+r2&x=0&y=0
> >
>
> Please be aware that 2008 and 2008 R2 are as different as Vista and Win7.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:28 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Need WS2008 book recommendation
>
> Well, a couple of my clients are getting off the dime and replacing aging
> systems with Windows Server 2008, so it's time for me to get up to speed as
> fast as I can.  Looking for recommendations on good books on WS 2008 R2.
>
> O'Reilly has one, and I like O'Reilly books:
>
>Windows Server 2008: The Definitive Guide - O'Reilly Media
>http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596514112
>
> but it's dated 2008 so it won't cover R2.
>
> Anyway, recommendations welcomed.
>
> TIA
>
> Angus
>
> --
> Angus Scott-Fleming
> GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
> 1-520-290-5038
> Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/
>
>
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <
> http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Need WS2008 book recommendation

[Andrew S. Baker]

Always look for books by Mark Russinovich

http://www.amazon.com/Windows®-Internals-Including-Windows-PRO-Developer/dp/0735625301/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpi_1

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker


On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming wrote:

> Well, a couple of my clients are getting off the dime and replacing aging
> systems with Windows Server 2008, so it's time for me to get up to speed as
> fast as I can.  Looking for recommendations on good books on WS 2008 R2.
>
> O'Reilly has one, and I like O'Reilly books:
>
>Windows Server 2008: The Definitive Guide - O'Reilly Media
>http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596514112
>
> but it's dated 2008 so it won't cover R2.
>
> Anyway, recommendations welcomed.
>
> TIA
>
> Angus
>
> --
> Angus Scott-Fleming
> GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
> 1-520-290-5038
> Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday "Meet the developers" at Sunbelt

[Stu Sjouwerman]

Oh, that's the "Sunbelt Concrete Shoes Crew" - (the gulf is 5 minutes away)

Warm regards,


Stu Sjouwerman
Co-Founder, Publisher, Sunbelt Media
P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218
F: +1-727-562-5199
s...@sunbelt-software.com




From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 7:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday "Meet the developers" at Sunbelt

Who's disposing of the bodies?

--
ME2

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Kurt Buff 
mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Who's paying the airfare?

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 14:36, Alex Eckelberry
mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com>> wrote:
> Hat tip for Greg Sweers for organizing this, we are inviting a small group
> of admins to come to the Sunbelt offices in Clearwater, Florida to meet all
> Friday afternoon with the VIPRE Enterprise development team.  The purpose
> will be to provide feedback and direction to our development team in making
> the next versions of VIPRE.
>
> We have a small group, but I'm opening it up to any others that might want
> to come.  This will be a very direct, personal meeting with the dev team.
>
> If anyone on the list would like to come to the meeting, please contact me
> directly.
>
> Alex
>
>
>
>
>
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~






...

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Need WS2008 book recommendation

[Michael B. Smith]

I'm rather fond of Minasi's books:



Please be aware that 2008 and 2008 R2 are as different as Vista and Win7.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Need WS2008 book recommendation

Well, a couple of my clients are getting off the dime and replacing aging 
systems with Windows Server 2008, so it's time for me to get up to speed as 
fast as I can.  Looking for recommendations on good books on WS 2008 R2.

O'Reilly has one, and I like O'Reilly books:

Windows Server 2008: The Definitive Guide - O'Reilly Media
http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596514112

but it's dated 2008 so it won't cover R2.  

Anyway, recommendations welcomed.

TIA

Angus

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

[LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] RE: Possible false-positive for Vipre

[Stu Sjouwerman]

Let's abandon this thread?

Thanks!

Warm regards,


Stu Sjouwerman
Co-Founder, Publisher, Sunbelt Media
P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218
F: +1-727-562-5199
s...@sunbelt-software.com


  


-Original Message-
From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 7:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Possible false-positive for Vipre

Here in Indianapolis we had a funky converter box and all we got was HBO.
For about two years.  Then a form of cable came in and we got some more
channels.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 8:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Possible false-positive for Vipre

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr
 wrote:
> Yep, it was a point-to-point service (or something like that).  You got a
> special directional antenna attached to your roof.

  Are you sure you're not thinking of old-fashioned satellite TV?  Not
the modern mini-dish stuff; I'm talking about the giant C-band dishes.
 They're used by TV networks to distribute their programming from
central studios to local broadcast points and cable head-ends.  The
occasional home AV snob would have a receiver.  The programming was
all transmitted in the clear so there was nothing stopping people
other than the (usually significant) expense of the equipment.

> Can anyone correct me if I am wrong?

  The always-reliable Wikipedia  says that HBO began as one of
the first pay TV services using underground cable in Manhattan, and
Manhattan only.  It later added satellite distribution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HBO

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


..
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: mid-tower cases

[David Lum]

Nah, the fans ALL blow inward, so they cancel each other out and just create a 
"heat tornado" in the case that never lets heat escape!

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 9:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: mid-tower cases

ROFL! :-) That would most likely keep a system cool, all right! :-)




-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: mid-tower cases

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:16 PM, John Aldrich
 wrote:
> My current machine at home is running *very* hot.  ... I think it's
> time to get a new case that's built for temperature control.

http://tinyurl.com/27ezws

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Need WS2008 book recommendation

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

Well, a couple of my clients are getting off the dime and replacing aging 
systems with Windows Server 2008, so it's time for me to get up to speed as 
fast as I can.  Looking for recommendations on good books on WS 2008 R2.

O'Reilly has one, and I like O'Reilly books:

Windows Server 2008: The Definitive Guide - O'Reilly Media
http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596514112

but it's dated 2008 so it won't cover R2.  

Anyway, recommendations welcomed.

TIA

Angus

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: mid-tower cases

[John Aldrich]

I wish. L If there are any computer recyclers in my area, I don't know of
any.

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Greg Olson [mailto:gol...@markettools.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: mid-tower cases

 

I'm in the Bay Area, but it's a good tip, if you have a local computer
recycler, they often strip out the components and throw away cases, and are
good places to stop by every once in awhile and look there there piles of
stuff.

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 10:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: mid-tower cases

 

Hmm. where you at and do you want to sell one? J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Greg Olson [mailto:gol...@markettools.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: mid-tower cases

 

Funny, I just picked up 3 Antec 900 cases for $15.00 from a local computer
recycler. They we're going to throw them away.

J

 

 

From: Matt Cross [mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 9:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: mid-tower cases

 

Antec 900 is my favorite case -- great airflow, quiet fans -- with all fans
on low, have never had an i7 system overheat in it.


 

Its little brother, the Antec 300, is pretty good, but does not come with
the front fans -- still has good airflow.



--
Matt Cross
mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:16 PM, John Aldrich
 wrote:

My current machine at home is running *very* hot. I have to have a powerful
fan pointed almost directly at the CPU in order to keep it from overheating.
That's with a couple 80mm fans in the back! I think it's time to get a new
case that's built for temperature control. Any suggestions? I'm not
overclocking my CPU or anything, it just runs hot!

I'd prefer to keep a new case below about $50-75, max. If you have any
particular cases in mind, can you post a link to where they can be found
on-line? I prefer NewEgg, as they tend to honor their rebates. TigerDirect
will use any excuse to keep from paying rebates! L

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

RE: mid-tower cases

[Greg Olson]

I'm in the Bay Area, but it's a good tip, if you have a local computer 
recycler, they often strip out the components and throw away cases, and are 
good places to stop by every once in awhile and look there there piles of stuff.

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 10:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: mid-tower cases

Hmm... where you at and do you want to sell one? :)

[cid:image001.jpg@01CAF73C.91FD8590][cid:image002@01caf73c.91fd8590]

From: Greg Olson [mailto:gol...@markettools.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: mid-tower cases

Funny, I just picked up 3 Antec 900 cases for $15.00 from a local computer 
recycler. They we're going to throw them away.
:)


From: Matt Cross [mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 9:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: mid-tower cases

Antec 900 is my favorite case -- great airflow, quiet fans -- with all fans on 
low, have never had an i7 system overheat in it.

Its little brother, the Antec 300, is pretty good, but does not come with the 
front fans -- still has good airflow.


--
Matt Cross
mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:16 PM, John Aldrich 
mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>> wrote:
My current machine at home is running *very* hot. I have to have a powerful fan 
pointed almost directly at the CPU in order to keep it from overheating. That's 
with a couple 80mm fans in the back! I think it's time to get a new case that's 
built for temperature control. Any suggestions? I'm not overclocking my CPU or 
anything, it just runs hot!
I'd prefer to keep a new case below about $50-75, max. If you have any 
particular cases in mind, can you post a link to where they can be found 
on-line? I prefer NewEgg, as they tend to honor their rebates. TigerDirect will 
use any excuse to keep from paying rebates! :(

[cid:image001.jpg@01CAF73C.91FD8590][cid:image002@01caf73c.91fd8590]



















~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

Re: mid-tower cases

[Bill Songstad]

I just took 10 degrees C off my home PC with one of these aftermarket CPU
fans:
http://www.infotechnow.com/product_info.php?cPath=33_88&products_id=7108

Bill

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Greg Olson  wrote:

>  Funny, I just picked up 3 Antec 900 cases for $15.00 from a local
> computer recycler. They we’re going to throw them away.
>
> J
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Matt Cross [mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 19, 2010 9:55 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: mid-tower cases
>
>
>
> Antec 900 is my favorite case -- great airflow, quiet fans -- with all fans
> on low, have never had an i7 system overheat in it.
>
>
>
> Its little brother, the Antec 300, is pretty good, but does not come with
> the front fans -- still has good airflow.
>
>
>
> --
> Matt Cross
> mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com
>
>  On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:16 PM, John Aldrich <
> jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> wrote:
>
> My current machine at home is running **very** hot. I have to have a
> powerful fan pointed almost directly at the CPU in order to keep it from
> overheating. That’s with a couple 80mm fans in the back! I think it’s time
> to get a new case that’s built for temperature control. Any suggestions? I’m
> not overclocking my CPU or anything, it just runs hot!
>
> I’d prefer to keep a new case below about $50-75, max. If you have any
> particular cases in mind, can you post a link to where they can be found
> on-line? I prefer NewEgg, as they tend to honor their rebates. TigerDirect
> will use any excuse to keep from paying rebates! L
>
>
>
> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

RE: mid-tower cases

[Erik Goldoff]

They have systems ??? 

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: mid-tower cases

 

Sweet! I might just get that. I keep forgetting that Frys stocks parts, and
not just systems. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

RE: mid-tower cases

[John Aldrich]

Hmm. where you at and do you want to sell one? J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Greg Olson [mailto:gol...@markettools.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: mid-tower cases

 

Funny, I just picked up 3 Antec 900 cases for $15.00 from a local computer
recycler. They we're going to throw them away.

J

 

 

From: Matt Cross [mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 9:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: mid-tower cases

 

Antec 900 is my favorite case -- great airflow, quiet fans -- with all fans
on low, have never had an i7 system overheat in it.


 

Its little brother, the Antec 300, is pretty good, but does not come with
the front fans -- still has good airflow.



--
Matt Cross
mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:16 PM, John Aldrich
 wrote:

My current machine at home is running *very* hot. I have to have a powerful
fan pointed almost directly at the CPU in order to keep it from overheating.
That's with a couple 80mm fans in the back! I think it's time to get a new
case that's built for temperature control. Any suggestions? I'm not
overclocking my CPU or anything, it just runs hot!

I'd prefer to keep a new case below about $50-75, max. If you have any
particular cases in mind, can you post a link to where they can be found
on-line? I prefer NewEgg, as they tend to honor their rebates. TigerDirect
will use any excuse to keep from paying rebates! L

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

RE: mid-tower cases

[John Aldrich]

Nahh. this is a clamp-down heatsink. 

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: mid-tower cases

 

The case isn't the problem - if your CPU fan is 80mm and only running 1500
RPM that's too slow for a busy CPU.  2500 RPM is typical for 80mm CPU fan.
Either that or the heat sink isn't properly attached to the CPU itself -
this can often happen with Intel style "push pin" fans if one of the legs
comes loose.

 

Carl

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: mid-tower cases

 

Yes and yes. Currently running at about 1500 RPM.

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: David [mailto:blazer...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: mid-tower cases

 

Have you blown the dust out of the case, and in particular the heat sink?
Can you check on your CPU fan, either in the BIOS or with a 3rd party app,
to see if it's turning at normal speed?

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 9:16 AM, John Aldrich 
wrote:

My current machine at home is running *very* hot. I have to have a powerful
fan pointed almost directly at the CPU in order to keep it from overheating.
That's with a couple 80mm fans in the back! I think it's time to get a new
case that's built for temperature control. Any suggestions? I'm not
overclocking my CPU or anything, it just runs hot!

I'd prefer to keep a new case below about $50-75, max. If you have any
particular cases in mind, can you post a link to where they can be found
on-line? I prefer NewEgg, as they tend to honor their rebates. TigerDirect
will use any excuse to keep from paying rebates! L

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 




-- 
David

_

Are you better off than you were
four trillion dollars ago?

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

RE: mid-tower cases

[Greg Olson]

Funny, I just picked up 3 Antec 900 cases for $15.00 from a local computer 
recycler. They we're going to throw them away.
:)


From: Matt Cross [mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 9:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: mid-tower cases

Antec 900 is my favorite case -- great airflow, quiet fans -- with all fans on 
low, have never had an i7 system overheat in it.

Its little brother, the Antec 300, is pretty good, but does not come with the 
front fans -- still has good airflow.


--
Matt Cross
mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:16 PM, John Aldrich 
mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>> wrote:
My current machine at home is running *very* hot. I have to have a powerful fan 
pointed almost directly at the CPU in order to keep it from overheating. That's 
with a couple 80mm fans in the back! I think it's time to get a new case that's 
built for temperature control. Any suggestions? I'm not overclocking my CPU or 
anything, it just runs hot!
I'd prefer to keep a new case below about $50-75, max. If you have any 
particular cases in mind, can you post a link to where they can be found 
on-line? I prefer NewEgg, as they tend to honor their rebates. TigerDirect will 
use any excuse to keep from paying rebates! :(

[cid:image001.jpg@01CAF73A.982A18E0][cid:image002@01caf73a.982a18e0]











~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

RE: mid-tower cases

[John Aldrich]

CPU is  AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+

Just FWIW. J Oh, and I'm running Fedora 11 on there. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Matt Cross [mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: mid-tower cases

 

Antec 900 is my favorite case -- great airflow, quiet fans -- with all fans
on low, have never had an i7 system overheat in it.


 

Its little brother, the Antec 300, is pretty good, but does not come with
the front fans -- still has good airflow.



--
Matt Cross
mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com



On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:16 PM, John Aldrich
 wrote:

My current machine at home is running *very* hot. I have to have a powerful
fan pointed almost directly at the CPU in order to keep it from overheating.
That's with a couple 80mm fans in the back! I think it's time to get a new
case that's built for temperature control. Any suggestions? I'm not
overclocking my CPU or anything, it just runs hot!

I'd prefer to keep a new case below about $50-75, max. If you have any
particular cases in mind, can you post a link to where they can be found
on-line? I prefer NewEgg, as they tend to honor their rebates. TigerDirect
will use any excuse to keep from paying rebates! L

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

RE: mid-tower cases

[Carl Houseman]

The case isn't the problem - if your CPU fan is 80mm and only running 1500
RPM that's too slow for a busy CPU.  2500 RPM is typical for 80mm CPU fan.
Either that or the heat sink isn't properly attached to the CPU itself - this
can often happen with Intel style "push pin" fans if one of the legs comes
loose.

 

Carl

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: mid-tower cases

 

Yes and yes. Currently running at about 1500 RPM.

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: David [mailto:blazer...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: mid-tower cases

 

Have you blown the dust out of the case, and in particular the heat sink?
Can you check on your CPU fan, either in the BIOS or with a 3rd party app, to
see if it's turning at normal speed?



On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 9:16 AM, John Aldrich 
wrote:

My current machine at home is running *very* hot. I have to have a powerful
fan pointed almost directly at the CPU in order to keep it from overheating.
That's with a couple 80mm fans in the back! I think it's time to get a new
case that's built for temperature control. Any suggestions? I'm not
overclocking my CPU or anything, it just runs hot!

I'd prefer to keep a new case below about $50-75, max. If you have any
particular cases in mind, can you post a link to where they can be found
on-line? I prefer NewEgg, as they tend to honor their rebates. TigerDirect
will use any excuse to keep from paying rebates! L

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 




-- 
David

_

Are you better off than you were
four trillion dollars ago?

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

Re: mid-tower cases

[Matt Cross]

Antec 900 is my favorite case -- great airflow, quiet fans -- with all fans
on low, have never had an i7 system overheat in it.

Its little brother, the Antec 300, is pretty good, but does not come with
the front fans -- still has good airflow.


--
Matt Cross
mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com


On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:16 PM, John Aldrich  wrote:

>  My current machine at home is running **very** hot. I have to have a
> powerful fan pointed almost directly at the CPU in order to keep it from
> overheating. That’s with a couple 80mm fans in the back! I think it’s time
> to get a new case that’s built for temperature control. Any suggestions? I’m
> not overclocking my CPU or anything, it just runs hot!
>
> I’d prefer to keep a new case below about $50-75, max. If you have any
> particular cases in mind, can you post a link to where they can be found
> on-line? I prefer NewEgg, as they tend to honor their rebates. TigerDirect
> will use any excuse to keep from paying rebates! L
>
>
>
> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

RE: mid-tower cases

[John Aldrich]

Sweet! I might just get that. I keep forgetting that Frys stocks parts, and
not just systems. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: mid-tower cases

 

This one might be a good starting point on the Fry's site :

http://www.frys.com/product/5520150?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

 

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: mid-tower cases

 

My current machine at home is running *very* hot. I have to have a powerful
fan pointed almost directly at the CPU in order to keep it from overheating.
That's with a couple 80mm fans in the back! I think it's time to get a new
case that's built for temperature control. Any suggestions? I'm not
overclocking my CPU or anything, it just runs hot!

I'd prefer to keep a new case below about $50-75, max. If you have any
particular cases in mind, can you post a link to where they can be found
on-line? I prefer NewEgg, as they tend to honor their rebates. TigerDirect
will use any excuse to keep from paying rebates! L

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

RE: mid-tower cases

[John Aldrich]

Yeah... part of the problem in my current case is there is nowhere to put an
intake fan, so all I have is the passive intake at the front. I have a
small, but powerful fan pointed at the CPU at an angle slightly off direct
and that's helping keep it within reason. The ambient temp varies, as it's
at home and I'm trying to keep from turning my power meter into a fan
itself. :-) Typically, I set the thermostat for about 78 when we're leaving
for the day and drop it down to about 72-73 when I get home. 
I did notice that when I have VNC Server running and am accessing the local
console the CPU temp climbs, but if I shut down the VNC server it drops, or
if I'm accessing the system from remote using VNC, the temp is good, but
accessing the local console *while* VNC server is active (even if I'm not
using it at the time) is a sure recipe for heat alarms! :-(




-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: mid-tower cases

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:16 PM, John Aldrich
 wrote:
> I have to have a powerful fan pointed almost directly at the CPU
> in order to keep it from overheating. That's with a couple 80mm
> fans in the back!

  That seems like it should be adequate for most anything but a
moderately serious gaming rig.  What have you got in there?

  What's ambient temperature?

  What's the airflow like?  Ideally, you want a straight-through path,
all front to back, with coverage from top to bottom, and no dead
spaces which don't get airflow.  Basically a big wind tunnel.

  You want vents which allow air in from selected locations, leading
to good air flow across all components.  I've seen a lot of cases
where the vents seemed to be placed either (1) randomly or (2) for
aesthetics.  That can lead to situations where the airflow actually
bypasses some components.  One can often improve cooling by *blocking*
vents in such cases.

  If you have both intake an exhaust fans, you want all the intakes on
one side and all the exhaust fans on the other side.  Otherwise you
tend to get air current loops which leave dead spaces.

  And, of course, you can always hack in space for a new fan if that's
what's needed.  Before they started marketing cases with fan mounts in
the side panels, I did that to a case I had, to keep the video card
cool.  Of course, due to limited space, the fan was mounted on the
*outside* of the panel.  :)

  You mentioned budget, so I figured a DIY approach might suit.  :)
If you want to buy new:

  For a vendor, NewEgg.  For a case mfg brand, I like Antec.  The good
ones are expensive, though.  Good cases usually are.  :)

  I have an Antec "Professional" (no longer sold) full-tower at home.
Six fan mounts, 5 5.25" bays, 2 3.5" bays, 6 internal 3.5" HDD bays,
mostly no tools needed.  Cost me around $200 though.  Without PSU.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: mid-tower cases

[Ben Scott]

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Phillip Partipilo  wrote:
> We whitebox everything here and have been very satisfied
> with Coolermaster cases, in particular the Centurion series:
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1689068

  We have some of those cases here (that exact model, I believe) for
some special PCs we needed.  Overall, very nice.   Quiet.  Roomy.
Looks good.  Filter foam along the front mesh.  Straight-through air
flow path.

  My one serious complaint is the bezel has nubs where the 5.25" bays
are.  My minion says that's to help line up the front of the drives,
so they're flush with the bezel, but as a consequence, you can't
remove any of the 5.25" drives without removing the entire bezel.  (Or
was it the bezel without removing the drives?)  In any event, that
turned into a pain in the ass.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: mid-tower cases

[Cliff Partlow]

Antec 900 best sub $100 case in the world. (no power supply) On the shelf at
Fry's.

 

 

"From The Sunny Side Of The Street!"

Cliff P.

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 9:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: mid-tower cases

 

I've been pretty happy with a couple cases I got at Fry's, one Antec  with
extra fans and rubber mounts for the hard drives (= quiet system ) and one
Wind Storm, that case has 4 large fans, two vented through the perforated
top of the case.

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: mid-tower cases

 

My current machine at home is running *very* hot. I have to have a powerful
fan pointed almost directly at the CPU in order to keep it from overheating.
That's with a couple 80mm fans in the back! I think it's time to get a new
case that's built for temperature control. Any suggestions? I'm not
overclocking my CPU or anything, it just runs hot!

I'd prefer to keep a new case below about $50-75, max. If you have any
particular cases in mind, can you post a link to where they can be found
on-line? I prefer NewEgg, as they tend to honor their rebates. TigerDirect
will use any excuse to keep from paying rebates! L

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

RE: mid-tower cases

[Erik Goldoff]

This one might be a good starting point on the Fry’s site :

http://www.frys.com/product/5520150?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

 

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: mid-tower cases

 

My current machine at home is running *very* hot. I have to have a powerful
fan pointed almost directly at the CPU in order to keep it from overheating.
That’s with a couple 80mm fans in the back! I think it’s time to get a new
case that’s built for temperature control. Any suggestions? I’m not
overclocking my CPU or anything, it just runs hot!

I’d prefer to keep a new case below about $50-75, max. If you have any
particular cases in mind, can you post a link to where they can be found
on-line? I prefer NewEgg, as they tend to honor their rebates. TigerDirect
will use any excuse to keep from paying rebates! L

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

Re: mid-tower cases

[Ben Scott]

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:16 PM, John Aldrich
 wrote:
> I have to have a powerful fan pointed almost directly at the CPU
> in order to keep it from overheating. That’s with a couple 80mm
> fans in the back!

  That seems like it should be adequate for most anything but a
moderately serious gaming rig.  What have you got in there?

  What's ambient temperature?

  What's the airflow like?  Ideally, you want a straight-through path,
all front to back, with coverage from top to bottom, and no dead
spaces which don't get airflow.  Basically a big wind tunnel.

  You want vents which allow air in from selected locations, leading
to good air flow across all components.  I've seen a lot of cases
where the vents seemed to be placed either (1) randomly or (2) for
aesthetics.  That can lead to situations where the airflow actually
bypasses some components.  One can often improve cooling by *blocking*
vents in such cases.

  If you have both intake an exhaust fans, you want all the intakes on
one side and all the exhaust fans on the other side.  Otherwise you
tend to get air current loops which leave dead spaces.

  And, of course, you can always hack in space for a new fan if that's
what's needed.  Before they started marketing cases with fan mounts in
the side panels, I did that to a case I had, to keep the video card
cool.  Of course, due to limited space, the fan was mounted on the
*outside* of the panel.  :)

  You mentioned budget, so I figured a DIY approach might suit.  :)
If you want to buy new:

  For a vendor, NewEgg.  For a case mfg brand, I like Antec.  The good
ones are expensive, though.  Good cases usually are.  :)

  I have an Antec "Professional" (no longer sold) full-tower at home.
Six fan mounts, 5 5.25" bays, 2 3.5" bays, 6 internal 3.5" HDD bays,
mostly no tools needed.  Cost me around $200 though.  Without PSU.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: mid-tower cases

[John Aldrich]

Yes and yes. Currently running at about 1500 RPM.

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: David [mailto:blazer...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: mid-tower cases

 

Have you blown the dust out of the case, and in particular the heat sink?
Can you check on your CPU fan, either in the BIOS or with a 3rd party app,
to see if it's turning at normal speed?




On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 9:16 AM, John Aldrich 
wrote:

My current machine at home is running *very* hot. I have to have a powerful
fan pointed almost directly at the CPU in order to keep it from overheating.
That's with a couple 80mm fans in the back! I think it's time to get a new
case that's built for temperature control. Any suggestions? I'm not
overclocking my CPU or anything, it just runs hot!

I'd prefer to keep a new case below about $50-75, max. If you have any
particular cases in mind, can you post a link to where they can be found
on-line? I prefer NewEgg, as they tend to honor their rebates. TigerDirect
will use any excuse to keep from paying rebates! L

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 




-- 
David

_

Are you better off than you were
four trillion dollars ago?

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

RE: mid-tower cases

[Erik Goldoff]

I’ve been pretty happy with a couple cases I got at Fry’s, one Antec  with
extra fans and rubber mounts for the hard drives (= quiet system ) and one
Wind Storm, that case has 4 large fans, two vented through the perforated
top of the case.

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: mid-tower cases

 

My current machine at home is running *very* hot. I have to have a powerful
fan pointed almost directly at the CPU in order to keep it from overheating.
That’s with a couple 80mm fans in the back! I think it’s time to get a new
case that’s built for temperature control. Any suggestions? I’m not
overclocking my CPU or anything, it just runs hot!

I’d prefer to keep a new case below about $50-75, max. If you have any
particular cases in mind, can you post a link to where they can be found
on-line? I prefer NewEgg, as they tend to honor their rebates. TigerDirect
will use any excuse to keep from paying rebates! L

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

RE: mid-tower cases

[Phillip Partipilo]

We whitebox everything here and have been very satisfied with Coolermaster 
cases, in particular the Centurion series:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1689068

Loads of airflow, the entire front is a mesh, big 120mm fan on the back.  Not 
loud.  What kind of CPU are you running?  Anything reasonably modern these days 
runs pretty darn cool, save the old 125 watt athlons.   Throw one of these 
puppies on any scorcher and it'll cool down good (There is a larger model than 
this one, I'm suggesting modestly):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118003

Also maybe try some of the high-performance thermal goop, like Arctic Silver 5 
or OCZ Freeze or whatnot.



Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107


From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: mid-tower cases

My current machine at home is running *very* hot. I have to have a powerful fan 
pointed almost directly at the CPU in order to keep it from overheating. That's 
with a couple 80mm fans in the back! I think it's time to get a new case that's 
built for temperature control. Any suggestions? I'm not overclocking my CPU or 
anything, it just runs hot!
I'd prefer to keep a new case below about $50-75, max. If you have any 
particular cases in mind, can you post a link to where they can be found 
on-line? I prefer NewEgg, as they tend to honor their rebates. TigerDirect will 
use any excuse to keep from paying rebates! :(

[cid:image001.jpg@01CAF74F.5190C680][cid:image002@01caf74f.5190c680]






~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

Re: mid-tower cases

[Daniel Rodriguez]

Nice.

Though, I do remember seeing a video on the web of a guy who put his
motherboard in canola oil. And it still ran! As long as he didn't put the
power supply in, everything was fine.

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:26 PM, John Aldrich  wrote:

> ROFL! :-) That would most likely keep a system cool, all right! :-)
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:24 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: mid-tower cases
>
> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:16 PM, John Aldrich
>  wrote:
> > My current machine at home is running *very* hot.  ... I think it's
> > time to get a new case that's built for temperature control.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/27ezws
>
> -- Ben
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: mid-tower cases

[David]

Have you blown the dust out of the case, and in particular the heat sink?
Can you check on your CPU fan, either in the BIOS or with a 3rd party app,
to see if it's turning at normal speed?



On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 9:16 AM, John Aldrich
wrote:

>  My current machine at home is running **very** hot. I have to have a
> powerful fan pointed almost directly at the CPU in order to keep it from
> overheating. That’s with a couple 80mm fans in the back! I think it’s time
> to get a new case that’s built for temperature control. Any suggestions? I’m
> not overclocking my CPU or anything, it just runs hot!
>
> I’d prefer to keep a new case below about $50-75, max. If you have any
> particular cases in mind, can you post a link to where they can be found
> on-line? I prefer NewEgg, as they tend to honor their rebates. TigerDirect
> will use any excuse to keep from paying rebates! L
>
>
>
> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
David

_

Are you better off than you were
four trillion dollars ago?

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

RE: mid-tower cases

[John Aldrich]

ROFL! :-) That would most likely keep a system cool, all right! :-)




-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: mid-tower cases

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:16 PM, John Aldrich
 wrote:
> My current machine at home is running *very* hot.  ... I think it's
> time to get a new case that's built for temperature control.

http://tinyurl.com/27ezws

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: mid-tower cases

[Ben Scott]

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:16 PM, John Aldrich
 wrote:
> My current machine at home is running *very* hot.  ... I think it’s
> time to get a new case that’s built for temperature control.

http://tinyurl.com/27ezws

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: mid-tower cases

[Leif Wahlberg]

Stay away from any vendor that gives you problems with paying rebates and
LET THE WORLD KNOW!

 

Leif

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 12:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: mid-tower cases

 

My current machine at home is running *very* hot. I have to have a powerful
fan pointed almost directly at the CPU in order to keep it from overheating.
That's with a couple 80mm fans in the back! I think it's time to get a new
case that's built for temperature control. Any suggestions? I'm not
overclocking my CPU or anything, it just runs hot!

I'd prefer to keep a new case below about $50-75, max. If you have any
particular cases in mind, can you post a link to where they can be found
on-line? I prefer NewEgg, as they tend to honor their rebates. TigerDirect
will use any excuse to keep from paying rebates! L

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

Re: Scripting IP Changes on remote devices

[Sean Martin]

I'll get a copy out today. Just need to make a couple of tweaks.

- Sean

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 6:31 AM, Don Guyer wrote:

>  Sean,
>
>
>
> I would appreciate a copy of that, please.
>
>
>
> TIA!
>
>
>
> Don Guyer
>
> Systems Engineer - Information Services
>
> Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
>
> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
>
> Devon, PA 19333
>
> Direct: (610) 993-3299
>
> Fax: (610) 650-5306
>
> don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 18, 2010 6:30 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Scripting IP Changes on remote devices
>
>
>
> First, thanks for all of the feedback. Some interesting opinions out there.
> I've always been open to change so it's good to hear all of the
> positives/negatives regarding which route to take. It sounds like DHCP would
> be the way to go with the majority of our servers, excluding the
> infrastructure servers.
>
>
> With that said, it's probably a change that will occur through attrition
> rather than changing our current method all at once. The main reason for
> that is our network services department wants us to change the subnets our
> servers currently reside on to further segment stuff. We've got way too much
> work on our plates to investigate changing the addresses on all of our
> servers so that will already be a slow transition.
>
>
>
> In the meantime, a co-worker and I put together what we hope is a
> functional VB script that will make the necessary changes to the existing
> WINs and DNS settings. If anyone's interested in seeing it (and maybe
> reviewing it for validity), I'd be happy to pass it along.
>
>
>
> - Sean
>
> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Ben Scott  wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Sean Martin 
> wrote:
>
> > What are some of the pros/cons of using DHCP for servers...?
>
>  For an environment like you describe, with hundreds of servers, I
> would recommend DHCP for all but critical network infrastructure
> servers.  I'd use manual configuration for anything serving DHCP, DNS,
> WINS, or Active Directory.  Everything else, DHCP, with reservations.
>
>  Just to be clear: DHCP does not have to mean a dynamic IP address.
> You can statically assign an IP address via a DHCP reservation.  And
> there are tools to help you do things like automatically provision the
> reservations, based on name or MAC address or whatever.
>
>
> > I've heard mention of not using DHCP to prevent DHCP broadcasts
> > but with a properly designed lease interval, I can't imagine the DHCP
> > traffic being that much of burden on today's networks
>
>  As ME2 says, it really depends on the environment, but I would
> generally agree.  You'll already be needing infrastructure to support
> DNS, prolly Active Directory, possibly WINS, Window Updates, etc.,
> etc.  If DHCP is going to push you over the edge you're already way
> too close to the edge.  :)
>
>  The one thing you *may* notice is a surge in broadcast traffic after
> rebooting or starting a large group of servers -- say, after a
> software update, or a long power outage.  In general, though, you're
> already going to be seeing that due to ARP and maybe NetBIOS
> registration.  So again, if this is a problem you're likely already
> experiencing it.  The usual solution is to stagger reboot/startup.
>
> -- Ben
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

mid-tower cases

[John Aldrich]

My current machine at home is running *very* hot. I have to have a powerful
fan pointed almost directly at the CPU in order to keep it from overheating.
That's with a couple 80mm fans in the back! I think it's time to get a new
case that's built for temperature control. Any suggestions? I'm not
overclocking my CPU or anything, it just runs hot!

I'd prefer to keep a new case below about $50-75, max. If you have any
particular cases in mind, can you post a link to where they can be found
on-line? I prefer NewEgg, as they tend to honor their rebates. TigerDirect
will use any excuse to keep from paying rebates! L

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

Re: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

[Phil Brutsche]

Oh, and there's one that's not on this list:

Enterprise-grade SATA drives report an SAS WWN. Plain consumer drives do
not.

It might sound like a minor thing, but any SAS storage array that uses
an SAS expander chip will refuse to operate with plain consumer drives
connected.

On 5/19/2010 10:21 AM, David Lum wrote:
> Because of these features, right?
> 
> * Superior reliability - Designed and manufactured to provide
> server-class reliability in high duty cycle environments. With 1.2
> million hours MTBF, these drives have the highest available
> reliability rating on a high-capacity drive.
> 
> * RAID-specific, time-limited error recovery (TLER) - Significantly
> reduces drive fallout caused by the extended hard drive
> error-recovery processes common to desktop drives.

-- 

Phil Brutsche
p...@optimumdata.com

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

[David Lum]

Thanks Ben, good info.

"special" = some configuration that means non-Dell sourced drives will not work 
in said server.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 8:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 9:27 AM, David Lum  wrote:
> IS there anything special about Dell-supplied SATA drives?

  Define "special".

  The HDA (hard disk assembly) and PCB (printed circuit board) are
almost certainly the same as you would get if you bought a similar
spec'ed drive from Wal-Mart.

  Some Dell drives have firmware which identifies themselves as
"Dell", thus allowing them to work with Dell RAID controllers which
refuse anything else.

  Some "enterprise" hard disk drives have tweaked firmware, supposedly
to "optimize" them for "enterprise usage".  Exactly how much, if any,
benefit there is to such tweaks is a subject of considerable debate.

  Firmware tweaks *can* make a difference.  Examples:

  One of the reported problems in the infamous IBM "DeathStar" debacle
was that the drives would idle the heads in a single track.  Under
typical home luser usage patterns, that wasn't a problem.  For a PC
left on all the time but largely idle, though, it could lead to wear
on that one track.  The fix was to tweak the firmware to occasionally
move the actuator arm, even when idle.

  Some HDD models are marked for "media" use, like in DVRs.  What they
do is tweak the firmware to quickly give up on a read/write error.
Typical hard drives will keep retrying, often for several seconds.
For a Word document, that's what you want, but for streaming media,
it's more important to keep the stream streaming.  A single lost block
will be a barely noticeable glitch in the audio or picture.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

[Ben Scott]

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 9:27 AM, David Lum  wrote:
> IS there anything special about Dell-supplied SATA drives?

  Define "special".

  The HDA (hard disk assembly) and PCB (printed circuit board) are
almost certainly the same as you would get if you bought a similar
spec'ed drive from Wal-Mart.

  Some Dell drives have firmware which identifies themselves as
"Dell", thus allowing them to work with Dell RAID controllers which
refuse anything else.

  Some "enterprise" hard disk drives have tweaked firmware, supposedly
to "optimize" them for "enterprise usage".  Exactly how much, if any,
benefit there is to such tweaks is a subject of considerable debate.

  Firmware tweaks *can* make a difference.  Examples:

  One of the reported problems in the infamous IBM "DeathStar" debacle
was that the drives would idle the heads in a single track.  Under
typical home luser usage patterns, that wasn't a problem.  For a PC
left on all the time but largely idle, though, it could lead to wear
on that one track.  The fix was to tweak the firmware to occasionally
move the actuator arm, even when idle.

  Some HDD models are marked for "media" use, like in DVRs.  What they
do is tweak the firmware to quickly give up on a read/write error.
Typical hard drives will keep retrying, often for several seconds.
For a Word document, that's what you want, but for streaming media,
it's more important to keep the stream streaming.  A single lost block
will be a barely noticeable glitch in the audio or picture.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

[David Lum]

Adding to my own noise, good reading as I'd never heard of these features. I 
learn hardware specs like this on "as needed" 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-Limited_Error_Recovery

Do many of you guys stay current on motherboards, HDD, RAM, vid card, etc 
technology? If so, what's your source for info? I dive in only when a task 
requires me to spec something out, so it can be months of nothing with bursts 
of an intense 12-14hrs of catching up with the times.

Usually buying a new home PC involves a week of catching up on RAM, HDD, CPU 
and video card technology, I think last time I spent close to 30 hours all said 
and done. The CPU side nowadays is the worst!

Dave

-Original Message-
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 8:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

Because of these features, right?

* Superior reliability - Designed and manufactured to provide server-class 
reliability in high duty cycle environments. With 1.2 million hours MTBF, these 
drives have the highest available reliability rating on a high-capacity drive. 

* RAID-specific, time-limited error recovery (TLER) - Significantly reduces 
drive fallout caused by the extended hard drive error-recovery processes common 
to desktop drives.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:p...@optimumdata.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 8:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

I would not EVER use a normal consumer SATA drive in any sort of RAID array.

The only SATA drives I would use are the ones intended for server
storage - the Western Digital RE series or the Seagate Barracuda ES series.

The Western Digital WD5002ABYS is an RE drive and should be fine.

On 5/19/2010 9:51 AM, Erik Goldoff wrote:
> Thanks, I'd **heard** that Dell relaxed the requirement of using DELL
> oem'd drives on their newer servers, but still don't know :
> 
> 1)   If consumer shelf drives work properly regardless of firmware
> levels ( are they upgradable too with the Dell firmware ? )

-- 

Phil Brutsche
p...@optimumdata.com

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~




~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

[Phil Brutsche]

Yessir

The point is the biggest one.

On 5/19/2010 10:21 AM, David Lum wrote:
> Because of these features, right?
> 
> * Superior reliability - Designed and manufactured to provide
> server-class reliability in high duty cycle environments. With 1.2
> million hours MTBF, these drives have the highest available
> reliability rating on a high-capacity drive.
> 
> * RAID-specific, time-limited error recovery (TLER) - Significantly
> reduces drive fallout caused by the extended hard drive
> error-recovery processes common to desktop drives.

-- 

Phil Brutsche
p...@optimumdata.com

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

[David Lum]

Because of these features, right?

* Superior reliability - Designed and manufactured to provide server-class 
reliability in high duty cycle environments. With 1.2 million hours MTBF, these 
drives have the highest available reliability rating on a high-capacity drive. 

* RAID-specific, time-limited error recovery (TLER) - Significantly reduces 
drive fallout caused by the extended hard drive error-recovery processes common 
to desktop drives.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:p...@optimumdata.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 8:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

I would not EVER use a normal consumer SATA drive in any sort of RAID array.

The only SATA drives I would use are the ones intended for server
storage - the Western Digital RE series or the Seagate Barracuda ES series.

The Western Digital WD5002ABYS is an RE drive and should be fine.

On 5/19/2010 9:51 AM, Erik Goldoff wrote:
> Thanks, I'd **heard** that Dell relaxed the requirement of using DELL
> oem'd drives on their newer servers, but still don't know :
> 
> 1)   If consumer shelf drives work properly regardless of firmware
> levels ( are they upgradable too with the Dell firmware ? )

-- 

Phil Brutsche
p...@optimumdata.com

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

[Phil Brutsche]

I would not EVER use a normal consumer SATA drive in any sort of RAID array.

The only SATA drives I would use are the ones intended for server
storage - the Western Digital RE series or the Seagate Barracuda ES series.

The Western Digital WD5002ABYS is an RE drive and should be fine.

On 5/19/2010 9:51 AM, Erik Goldoff wrote:
> Thanks, I’d **heard** that Dell relaxed the requirement of using DELL
> oem’d drives on their newer servers, but still don’t know :
> 
> 1)   If consumer shelf drives work properly regardless of firmware
> levels ( are they upgradable too with the Dell firmware ? )

-- 

Phil Brutsche
p...@optimumdata.com

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

[Erik Goldoff]

Thanks, I’d *heard* that Dell relaxed the requirement of using DELL oem’d
drives on their newer servers, but still don’t know :

1)   If consumer shelf drives work properly regardless of firmware
levels ( are they upgradable too with the Dell firmware ? )

2)  If any RAID/Storage support issues arise, will Dell still support or
require to change to Dell drives prior to any help ?

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 10:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

 

Normal SATA II drives work fine with the SAS 5/IR

 

Cheers

Ken

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 19 May 2010 10:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

 

If the Dell SATA drives are intended to work with the Dell RAID cards, then
they likely have DELL oem’d firmware compared to consumer shelf drives.

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 9:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

 

IS there anything special about Dell-supplied SATA drives? I have a PE840
with a SAS 5/iR card and SATA II drives. Looking at Dell’s site they want
$270 for a single 500GB SATA II, Newegg has a very similar 500GB (Western
Digital, so same as in there now, same spindle speed and interface speeds)
for $90/each, and I plan on buying two to make ‘em RAID1.

 

The currently installed 250GB drives are model WD2500YS, what I’m looking at
at Newegg is WD5000ABYS, so I’m thinking quite similar drives. Also I don’t
know if I need a SATA->SAS cable or if a std SATA cable will work. The new
drives will be Raid 1 all on their own and not added to the current logical
drives.

 

Anyone have experience here?

David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER 
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

[Ken Schaefer]

Normal SATA II drives work fine with the SAS 5/IR

Cheers
Ken

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 19 May 2010 10:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

If the Dell SATA drives are intended to work with the Dell RAID cards, then 
they likely have DELL oem'd firmware compared to consumer shelf drives.

Erik Goldoff
IT  Consultant
Systems, Networks, & Security
'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 9:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

IS there anything special about Dell-supplied SATA drives? I have a PE840 with 
a SAS 5/iR card and SATA II drives. Looking at Dell's site they want $270 for a 
single 500GB SATA II, Newegg has a very similar 500GB (Western Digital, so same 
as in there now, same spindle speed and interface speeds) for $90/each, and I 
plan on buying two to make 'em RAID1.

The currently installed 250GB drives are model WD2500YS, what I'm looking at at 
Newegg is WD5000ABYS, so I'm thinking quite similar drives. Also I don't know 
if I need a SATA->SAS cable or if a std SATA cable will work. The new drives 
will be Raid 1 all on their own and not added to the current logical drives.

Anyone have experience here?
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764










~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

[Erik Goldoff]

If the Dell SATA drives are intended to work with the Dell RAID cards, then
they likely have DELL oem’d firmware compared to consumer shelf drives.

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 9:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

 

IS there anything special about Dell-supplied SATA drives? I have a PE840
with a SAS 5/iR card and SATA II drives. Looking at Dell’s site they want
$270 for a single 500GB SATA II, Newegg has a very similar 500GB (Western
Digital, so same as in there now, same spindle speed and interface speeds)
for $90/each, and I plan on buying two to make ‘em RAID1.

 

The currently installed 250GB drives are model WD2500YS, what I’m looking at
at Newegg is WD5000ABYS, so I’m thinking quite similar drives. Also I don’t
know if I need a SATA->SAS cable or if a std SATA cable will work. The new
drives will be Raid 1 all on their own and not added to the current logical
drives.

 

Anyone have experience here?

David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER 
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Scripting IP Changes on remote devices

[Don Guyer]

Sean,

 

I would appreciate a copy of that, please.

 

TIA!

 

Don Guyer

Systems Engineer - Information Services

Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group

431 W. Lancaster Avenue

Devon, PA 19333

Direct: (610) 993-3299

Fax: (610) 650-5306

don.gu...@prufoxroach.com  

 

From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 6:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Scripting IP Changes on remote devices

 

First, thanks for all of the feedback. Some interesting opinions out
there. I've always been open to change so it's good to hear all of the
positives/negatives regarding which route to take. It sounds like DHCP
would be the way to go with the majority of our servers, excluding the
infrastructure servers.


With that said, it's probably a change that will occur through attrition
rather than changing our current method all at once. The main reason for
that is our network services department wants us to change the subnets
our servers currently reside on to further segment stuff. We've got way
too much work on our plates to investigate changing the addresses on all
of our servers so that will already be a slow transition. 

 

In the meantime, a co-worker and I put together what we hope is a
functional VB script that will make the necessary changes to the
existing WINs and DNS settings. If anyone's interested in seeing it (and
maybe reviewing it for validity), I'd be happy to pass it along.

 

- Sean

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Ben Scott  wrote:

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Sean Martin 
wrote:

> What are some of the pros/cons of using DHCP for servers...?

 For an environment like you describe, with hundreds of servers, I
would recommend DHCP for all but critical network infrastructure
servers.  I'd use manual configuration for anything serving DHCP, DNS,
WINS, or Active Directory.  Everything else, DHCP, with reservations.

 Just to be clear: DHCP does not have to mean a dynamic IP address.
You can statically assign an IP address via a DHCP reservation.  And
there are tools to help you do things like automatically provision the
reservations, based on name or MAC address or whatever.


> I've heard mention of not using DHCP to prevent DHCP broadcasts
> but with a properly designed lease interval, I can't imagine the DHCP
> traffic being that much of burden on today's networks

 As ME2 says, it really depends on the environment, but I would
generally agree.  You'll already be needing infrastructure to support
DNS, prolly Active Directory, possibly WINS, Window Updates, etc.,
etc.  If DHCP is going to push you over the edge you're already way
too close to the edge.  :)

 The one thing you *may* notice is a surge in broadcast traffic after
rebooting or starting a large group of servers -- say, after a
software update, or a long power outage.  In general, though, you're
already going to be seeing that due to ARP and maybe NetBIOS
registration.  So again, if this is a problem you're likely already
experiencing it.  The usual solution is to stagger reboot/startup.

-- Ben


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

[Jeff Cain]

I would get in touch with someone in Dell's sales & upgrades dept. Get the 
exact model number they would be sending you and see if you can source it 
elsewhere. PS> I love newegg.

Thanks,
Jeff Cain
Technical Support Analyst
Sunbelt Software
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From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 9:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

IS there anything special about Dell-supplied SATA drives? I have a PE840 with 
a SAS 5/iR card and SATA II drives. Looking at Dell's site they want $270 for a 
single 500GB SATA II, Newegg has a very similar 500GB (Western Digital, so same 
as in there now, same spindle speed and interface speeds) for $90/each, and I 
plan on buying two to make 'em RAID1.

The currently installed 250GB drives are model WD2500YS, what I'm looking at at 
Newegg is WD5000ABYS, so I'm thinking quite similar drives. Also I don't know 
if I need a SATA->SAS cable or if a std SATA cable will work. The new drives 
will be Raid 1 all on their own and not added to the current logical drives.

Anyone have experience here?
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764






...

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

[David Lum]

IS there anything special about Dell-supplied SATA drives? I have a PE840 with 
a SAS 5/iR card and SATA II drives. Looking at Dell's site they want $270 for a 
single 500GB SATA II, Newegg has a very similar 500GB (Western Digital, so same 
as in there now, same spindle speed and interface speeds) for $90/each, and I 
plan on buying two to make 'em RAID1.

The currently installed 250GB drives are model WD2500YS, what I'm looking at at 
Newegg is WD5000ABYS, so I'm thinking quite similar drives. Also I don't know 
if I need a SATA->SAS cable or if a std SATA cable will work. The new drives 
will be Raid 1 all on their own and not added to the current logical drives.

Anyone have experience here?
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Possible false-positive for Vipre

[David W. McSpadden]

Here in Indianapolis we had a funky converter box and all we got was HBO.
For about two years.  Then a form of cable came in and we got some more
channels.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 8:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Possible false-positive for Vipre

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr
 wrote:
> Yep, it was a point-to-point service (or something like that).  You got a
> special directional antenna attached to your roof.

  Are you sure you're not thinking of old-fashioned satellite TV?  Not
the modern mini-dish stuff; I'm talking about the giant C-band dishes.
 They're used by TV networks to distribute their programming from
central studios to local broadcast points and cable head-ends.  The
occasional home AV snob would have a receiver.  The programming was
all transmitted in the clear so there was nothing stopping people
other than the (usually significant) expense of the equipment.

> Can anyone correct me if I am wrong?

  The always-reliable Wikipedia  says that HBO began as one of
the first pay TV services using underground cable in Manhattan, and
Manhattan only.  It later added satellite distribution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HBO

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Possible false-positive for Vipre

[David W. McSpadden]

HBO, Star, then Showtime, Star channel would later help you get that great
big dish in your side yard I think.

 

 

  _  

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 7:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Possible false-positive for Vipre

 

Yep, it was a point-to-point service (or something like that).  You got a
special directional antenna attached to your roof.  First was HBO from what
I can recall.  Second was, umm, the Star Channel?  (not to be confused with
the modern Stars network channel)...

Can anyone correct me if I am wrong?

--
ME2



On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Phillip Partipilo  wrote:

There was HBO before cable TV?

 

 

Phillip Partipilo

Parametric Solutions Inc.

Jupiter, Florida

(561) 747-6107

 

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 2:52 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Possible false-positive for Vipre

 

HARDWARE WARS!!!   Nice reference!



I remember seeing that as a "short" on HBO, wy before cable TV...

--
ME2

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Charlie Kaiser 
wrote:

Help me Augie Ben-Doggie; you're my only hope...

***
Charlie Kaiser
charl...@golden-eagle.org
Kingman, AZ
***


> -Original Message-
> From: greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net
> [mailto:greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net]

> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 10:14 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Possible false-positive for Vipre
>

> I'm afraid my mission to bring you to Alderaan(Vipre Forum)
> has failed. I've placed information vital to the survival of
> the rebellion(your PC) into the memory systems of this R2 unit.

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Possible false-positive for Vipre

[Phillip Partipilo]

A guy I worked with up until about a year or two ago has one of those 
mega-honking dishes.  His big complaint was trying to find a good UPS unit for 
it, since every time the power flickered and the UPS faltered, the dish had to 
scan the entire equator and they were down for 15-20 minutes.  If I didn't live 
in a condo complex, I might dig something like that... Picking up HD Nasa TV 
and all sorts of bizarro things.  The modern boxes have decoder cards so you 
can get pay-for things like HBO and stuff.

But yeah you have to "plan" to watch TV.  Probably part of that scanning 
sequence to build a guide.  You cant channel surf with your channel up/down 
when it might take a minute to pick up another transponder.


From: David [mailto:blazer...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 10:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Possible false-positive for Vipre

I bought a house in about 1994 that had one of those huge military grade 
parabolic dishes.  Could pick up quite a few things, including a lot of the 
network feeds before they made it to the news, and some foreign broadcasts.  No 
encryption at all, but it was difficult to 'plan' to watch anything in 
particular.


On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Ben Scott 
mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr
mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Yep, it was a point-to-point service (or something like that).  You got a
> special directional antenna attached to your roof.

 Are you sure you're not thinking of old-fashioned satellite TV?  Not
the modern mini-dish stuff; I'm talking about the giant C-band dishes.
 They're used by TV networks to distribute their programming from
central studios to local broadcast points and cable head-ends.  The
occasional home AV snob would have a receiver.  The programming was
all transmitted in the clear so there was nothing stopping people
other than the (usually significant) expense of the equipment.

> Can anyone correct me if I am wrong?

 The always-reliable Wikipedia  says that HBO began as one of
the first pay TV services using underground cable in Manhattan, and
Manhattan only.  It later added satellite distribution.

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HBO

-- Ben

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