Re: what photo magazine or books do you read?
"Markus Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Sunday evening Survey :-) > >what photographic publications do you read often and which books about >photography are a must to read and look at and why? Books: I was reading Galen Rowell's "Inner Game of Outdoor Photography" a while back. Great book and highly recommended. He has a chapter devoted to books *he* recommends and they're almost all on the subject of visual perception rather than photography per se. The first book Rowell recommends is Oliver Sacks' "An Anthropologist on Mars" so I bought that one next. Absolutely outstanding discussion of visual perception in two chapters. The Case of the Colorblind Painter is about an artist who loses all color perception - and even the *concept* of color - after a head injury. To See and Not See is about a blind man whose sight is restored in his 40's (he became blind in childhood). Other chapters touch on the concept of sensory perception in general and are valuable (as well as fascinating) reading also. Highly, highly recommended. A couple of weeks ago I picked a book called "Masterclass in Photography" by Michael and Julien Busselle, a father and son photography team. They discuss various concepts in photography, illustrate them with their own excellent photos and comment on each other's work. It's not overly wordy (fairly minimalist as far as text is concerned, in fact) and seems like a good source for ideas for photographers of all experience levels. I found this book on a special table at the local Barnes & Noble bookstore. It's a fairly large hardcover volume filled with high quality reproductions of their photographs. Good source of ideas, IMHO. Next, I'm going to try to track down some more of the non-photographic books Galen Rowell recommended. I find powells.com is a good source for used and out-of-print books. I'll report back on what I find. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: 2 newer pictures at photo.net
The shadows at the base of the tombstones make them look like have legs - like the little squirrel with the spruce cone! Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Norm Baugher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 25. april 2004 17:49 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: 2 newer pictures at photo.net This one is nice Markus, I like the lighting, composition and subject. Nice mood. Norm Markus Maurer wrote: >http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2314030 > >Usually grave stones lead to sadness but the light late in the afternoon >and the animal with the nut (don't know it's name in English), which is the >most important detail for me, >gives "some kind of hope". >The text on the second gravestone is translated: "Light awaits Albertina >Weisshaupt" > >
Re: PAW: moon
On Sun, 25 Apr 2004, Peter J. Alling wrote: > Not "as sharp as I would have hoped." indeed. This appears to be a very > sharp photo. You can see a full resolution version at http://www.phred.org/~alex/pictures/moon/moon-bluesky-large.jpg It appears to me that the telescope was slightly out of focus. It could also have been a limitation of the telescope or a result of atmospheric disruptions. I haven't tried printing this yet, but I don't think that it is sharp enough for doing that. It is a good enough photo to have whetted my appetite though, and I look forward to trying more astrophotography. A friend (who was also there) has a 1200mm f4 Newtonian telescope which is very bright and sharp. We can't get the focal plane of the camera close enough to get good focus with prime focus photography, but we are working on possible solutions for that problem. That telescope would be fast enough for us to do some deeper space objects and should make focussing easier too. alex
RE: PAW: moon
I hope to try that too. I don't think that the *ist D is the right camera for it though (longer exposures will have more noise). A lot of the coolest deep space astrophotography is being done with dedicated cameras that can have proper cooling for the CCD. Many of these are actually hacked from cheap webcams. None of my friends have telescopes with equatorial mounts which also makes such photography more difficult. You'll get streaks instead of steady images without one. We set up at a city park (Greenlake, Seattle, WA) yesterday. The viewing was quite good, but I'm sure that it would be even better if we got outside of the city lights. alex On Sun, 25 Apr 2004, Tom C wrote: > Cool shot Alex! > > It's always been my aspirations to get into astrophotography, especially > deep space objects. > > Tom C. > > > > > > From: alex wetmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: PAW: moon > Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 10:10:09 -0700 (PDT) > > Last night I got together with some friends and their telescopes. > I brought along my *ist D. > > This was shot with a 1540mm f11 telescope (Orion Starmax or something) > and the *ist D in prime focus (telescope acting as the primary lens). > ISO 200, 1/10". > > http://www.phred.org/~alex/pictures/moon/moon-bluesky.jpg > > No real processing except for contrast adjustment, cropping, and a > little sharpening. > > Focusing through the telescope was very difficult, so this isn't as > sharp as I would have hoped. It gives us more reasons to try again. > This is a nice little telescope for photography though, as it has > T-threads right on the eyepiece mount, was reasonably priced, and very > compact. > > alex > > _ > Watch LIVE baseball games on your computer with MLB.TV, included with MSN > Premium! > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/mlb&pgmarket=en-us/go/onm00200439ave/direct/01/ > >
Re: London PDML Meeting - some snaps
Don't tell me you've been reading this! http://www.ambrosiasw.com/Ambrosia_Times/September_95/2.5HowTo.html Cotty wrote: On 25/4/04, BOB W, [severely] discombobulated, offered: one of the pleasures of the PDML is the scarcely believable variety of people it attracts. How else would it be possible for somebody like me to meet in one evening: 1. someone who lives on a volcano 2. someone who turned down an offer of help from Wilfred Thesiger while stranded in the bush 3. someone who collides electrons for a living 4. Cotty LOL. I'll take that as a compliment. Just logged on (Sunday pm) after a hard afternoon's toil cleaning, rebuilding, and - of course - modifying the barbeque after unearthing it in the dank recesses of the garage. Gotta have the priorities in the right order. How do you modify a barbeque? I'll save that for another post . I can't add to John Forbes' excellent precis of our little jaunt along the river JF: I've recorded this aspicious event here: http://www.johnforbes.homechoice.co.uk/john/pdml.htm except to say that I thoroughly enjoyed meeting up with the lads and walking ALL that way (Bob!) and a hearty thanks for the company, guys. Especially to Gianfranco - that was a heck of a way to come for an evening ! I haven't sat down yet to load the few pics I snapped onto the hard drive, so I'll hopefully do that a bit later tonight and see if anything's in focus. If they're not, then I'll keep them small to disguise it. Should be one or two. Checking focus on the D60 is not so much hit and miss, as in just 'miss'. Thanks once again for letting me crash out on the futon Bob. (I slept like a baby - kept waking up and was sick everywhere). More soon. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
PAW: Why did the chicken cross the road?
http://members.aol.com/rfsindg/Chicken.jpg >From the wildlife preserve north of the Kennedy Space Center, Florida. This guy swam out of the marsh and cautiously crossed the road. Taken with the LX and 77mm limited thru the car windshield, as I didn't know how hungry he was. I was on business in Orlando, but will take the 400mm next time! It's a great birding area. Regards, Bob S.
Re: PAW: moon
Not "as sharp as I would have hoped." indeed. This appears to be a very sharp photo. alex wetmore wrote: Last night I got together with some friends and their telescopes. I brought along my *ist D. This was shot with a 1540mm f11 telescope (Orion Starmax or something) and the *ist D in prime focus (telescope acting as the primary lens). ISO 200, 1/10". http://www.phred.org/~alex/pictures/moon/moon-bluesky.jpg No real processing except for contrast adjustment, cropping, and a little sharpening. Focusing through the telescope was very difficult, so this isn't as sharp as I would have hoped. It gives us more reasons to try again. This is a nice little telescope for photography though, as it has T-threads right on the eyepiece mount, was reasonably priced, and very compact. alex
RE: Photo.net new account for "furball" and others
On 25/4/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, offered: >I am not certain about or whether it is a race, could be "Norwegische >Waldkatze" = Norwegian forest cat. Holy cow! That's Jostein! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
E: where is the crossing line ? (contraversual)
On 24/4/04, MALCOLM, discombobulated, offered: >How far is photographic manipulation acceptable and true to the image taken? > >Quite honestly, if you need to go to lengths in Photoshop or whatever, >you've taken the wrong picture. Re-entering this one late, so apologies if you've already been pulled to pieces over it ;-) I'm not sure what you mean by 'go to lengths' in Photoshop. I assume you mean by extended tweaking such as increasing colour saturation or darkening a sky? In what way is this any different from including a graduated filter on the front of the lens during the taking? If HCB or Doisneau did indeed ask some of their subjects to kiss or embrace, ostensibly to conjure up a better shot, is that taking the wrong picture? As I mentioned before, I think every photographer has their own limits, their own scruples that they operate by, and quite rightly. But surely, to each their own? I can't see how any picture, any photograph, and drawing, any piece of art, whatever, can be right or wrong. But that's my own personal opinion :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: PAW: moon
Exceptionally cool! Norm alex wetmore wrote: Last night I got together with some friends and their telescopes. I brought along my *ist D. This was shot with a 1540mm f11 telescope (Orion Starmax or something) and the *ist D in prime focus (telescope acting as the primary lens). ISO 200, 1/10". http://www.phred.org/~alex/pictures/moon/moon-bluesky.jpg
Re: Not a PAW but a recent QuikSnap
My point such as it was, was that you don't need western materialist values to want more than you need. Additionally I have less trouble with a day trader owning it. He/She might enjoy it more while it lasts. frank theriault wrote: Peter, If some Eastern Potentate, Bill Gates or the Pope lived in that house, I might be okay with it. But it's probably just some day trader, who's fortune could be wiped out by a burp in the stock market... -frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Not a PAW but a recent QuikSnap Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 10:26:36 -0400 Everyone in the world who's important seems to want a big house. Eastern Potentates, Bill Gates, The Pope, it's something in human nature. frank theriault wrote: Cool shot. You're right, Shel, interesting colours and interesting shape to the house. As it was loading, I was thinking about why anyone needs a house that large. There's something in there about consumerism in the Western World, about the type of society where people desire monster houses while 1/4 of the world goes to bed hungry. But, none of that has to do with your photo. That's just my reaction to it. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Not a PAW but a recent QuikSnap Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 01:18:29 -0700 While driving in the hills near my house on Sunday, I saw this little scene and was struck by the colors and the shape of the house, and how it sits amongst the trees. Grabbed it with the little Sony DSC-S85 http://home.earthlink.net/~digisnaps/house-in-hills.html _ MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines _ MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: Pentax A20/2.8 Query
>> 67mm filters, right? > 67mm filters. Yes, mounted to threads on a flared-out flange at the front of the lens, so that a filter cannot vignette on the front of what is, after all, a very wide angle lens. I love my A 20/2.8, easily my most-used wide angle lens. Fred
RE: PAW: Furball
Even though the cat's body fades into OOF, it seems that you've named your cat very appropriately. Very nice photos. I find that my cats co-operate when I drug them. A bit of catnip, they get all frisky, then go into that stupor. If cats could smile, they'd be doing so. Cosmic Kitty catnip. It's the best... cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "Steve Desjardins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: PAW: Furball Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 10:48:48 -0400 My cat, Furball, was being unusually cooperative yesterday, and here are three shots out of 12: http://home.wlu.edu/~desjardi/ These were taken with my *ist D with an A50 1.7. I cropped, reiszed, and "unsharpened" a bit. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: Hardisk MTBF IDE versus SCSI
> > Hi > John > thanks for that overview. > Have you ever dropped such a micro drive without damaging and would you say > that they are reliable? > just wondering > happy Sunday > Markus I've never dropped one. I try very hard not to drop *any* photographic equipment - lenses like being dropped even less than microdrives do. I'm not shooting RAW for most of my stuff, so I don't need to change drives in the field. When I take the drives out for upload I make sure I'm sitting down, with the camera on a table or some other surface. You need to be more careful with microdrives, anyway; they are thicker than even a CF-II card, and can be tricky to extract from the *ist-D. I've got a special tool in my camera bag that makes this much easier. And I quite often just use the supplied USB cable; I start the upload and then take care of other things (a visit to the bathroom, grab a drink if it's a hot day, check for any urgent email). By the time I want to take a look at the images the upload is completed. If I know there are one or two images I really want to look at immediately I'll upload those ones first, before kicking off the bulk upload. Reliability? Until recently I never saw anything other than microdrives being used by the D1/EOS-1d crowd, and microdrives are still responsible for over 50% of the storage I see in the media room. That's what you get when you rent a digital from most places, too. If the reliability is good enough for those whose livelihood depends on it, it's good enough for me. I've seen far more images lost through human error than through equipment failure.
RE: London PDML Meeting - some snaps
I looked at the pix this morning, and only just read the text now. Great job, John. Not on the photos. With that motley crew (no, not the rock band), you did what you could, but one can only do so much with modern imaging software. No, I meant the text was most enjoyable and entertaining. You've managed to make a bunch of camera geeks sound erudite, educated and interesting. No small feat (no, not the rock band), that! Being serious for a moment, thanks for the photos and the description of your day. Sounds like you bunch had a great time. And, now I know what Bob looks like. Now, wasn't there 3 pdml functions this weekend? We here in Toronto, you blokes in London - wasn't there one in DC? We haven't heard from them yet. What's up with that? Either they're all in the clink (and thanks to you, John, I know where that came from! ) for some National Security Breach, or they're all so hung over, no one's turned on their computers yet - or both. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: John Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: London PDML Meeting - some snaps Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 15:56:00 +0100 I've recorded this aspicious event here: http://www.johnforbes.homechoice.co.uk/john/pdml.htm John -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ _ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: CD-R lifetimes disputed
William Robb wrote: >>Very few photos are worth archiving anyway. It is human arrogance >>that makes people think that their photos are worth the effort. - I'd call it more wishful thinking. Marnie In my case, anyway.
Re: PAW #7 -- Purple & Green
Yeah, it's a tough life, eh, Marnie? -frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OTOH, I want to try out my fisheye lens too. So much to try, so much to shoot, and so little time. ;-) Marnie _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
RE: I´m off
Don't crash. Don't break anything (which shouldn't be a problem if you observe suggestion #1, above). Have fun! cheers, frank ps: if you go to Copenhagen, don't hit any bike couriers, as my friend Kasper works there. -f "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "Raimo K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: I´m off Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 17:01:35 +0300 I´m planning to do a couple of days motorcycling in Denmark so I have to unsubscribe for the duration. I hope to see my e-mails, though. All the best! Raimo K Personal photography homepage at: http:\\www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho - Original Message - From: "Markus Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 4:51 PM Subject: RE: PAW - Just some kids hanging out > Hi Shel > it is the first photo I see from you and I like it, because it seems to be > real kids life to me. > The gang seems proud and cool and enjoying the photo session but trying to > hide their thoughts somewhat. > > Critics: > Nothing missing if it is a single snapshot > I would like to see alternatives shoots with the eyes of the boy in the > background next to the girl more visible and more of the bike in the > foreground to compare which view I would prefer. > What was your distance to the group, you must have been pretty close with a > 20mm, assuming the image is unaltered. > > Do you have more of them, I am getting appetite. > Markus > > > > > > > >Perhaps you remember this gang from an earlier pic. Here > >they are again, hanging out on the sidewalk in San > >Francisco's Mission District one summer afternoon. Comments > >and crits are always welcome. > > _ MSN Premium helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: PAW - Just some kids hanging out
In a message dated 4/25/2004 11:33:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marnie, I wear shorts and sandals almost year round, here in S. Calif. That includes Winter, if it's not too bitter. When we're going out somewhere, my wife has to tell me, "You have to put on shoes, you know!" Then I know what to expect. keith whaley - I shake my head at people like you. I see you guys out there when I am still cold (when my body hasn't adjusted to spring yet) and seriously wonder if your blood is warmer than mine, or something. Actually, you guys are probably just crazy. ;-) Yeah, I know, it's California, so naturally it's shorts weather! Hehehehe. Marnie
Re: Flowers
Link 2 don't work neither. -frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: William M Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Flowers Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 11:38:21 -0500 Dof, wrong link: http://www.kanescience.com/personal/_flowers/index.html _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: PAW #7 -- Purple & Green
In a message dated 4/25/2004 11:36:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But, now the second one's growing on me. Definitely more "impressionistic". Maybe that's why I'm coming to like it: it's different, but it works. It would be nice if ~one~ of the blooms were in sharper focus, but that's not catastrophic, IMHO. I'll look a few more times later, see what I think then. It has potential. cheers, frank I am thinking of trying something like that again, seeing if I can get one bloom in sharper focus. Of course, that would be hard, since the "effect" was caused by the wind blowing. OTOH, I want to try out my fisheye lens too. So much to try, so much to shoot, and so little time. ;-) Marnie
Re: PAW #7 -- Purple & Green
In a message dated 4/25/2004 11:31:42 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You got in there nice and close, and it's sharp enough, too. Yup. A lovely shot. thanks, frank --- Thanks, frank. Marnie
Re: what photo magazine or books do you read?
I have a subscription to Outdoor Photographer (which I got in a bundle of magazine subscriptions, I mean I picked it out to make up four subscriptions). It's not bad, some interesting articles. But the main thing is, naturally, they are selling camera equipment -- i.e. the ads and articles. OTOH, it let's me know what is new (also as far as printers, etc.). I have Photography by Barbara London, et. all, but I have barely looked at it. Which I should since it wasn't cheap. I also have Mountain Light by Galen Rowel -- finally got it used. And I haven't read it yet either, but I am waiting for some free time to read it cover to cover. I have some of John Shaw's books that I did read pretty much cover to cover when I first started. But things like that don't stay with me much. I find reading the books fun, but not something that necessarily provides me with new information. Or new information that stays in my head. I learn more by doing, so I learn better by looking things up afterwards. I have also learned tons more from classes, for instance. But now I am looking around for a good digital photography book. Something that thoroughly covers WB and Histograms, etc. So much in film books is now no longer relevant to me. So far, this looks like a good book, and I am thinking about getting it. If anyone has suggestions for a better one, please say so. Mastering Digital Photography: The Photographer's Guide to Professional Quality Digital Photography, by David D. Busch http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1592001149/ref=ord_cart_shr/002- 9840715-2164845?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER So mainly, except for Rowel, it's been how-to stuff. I haven't gotten into collected works of photographer's output. Except for Ansel Adams in Color. Good book, great photos. Although I tend to get more inspiration than information out of them, anyway. Marnie aka Doe Somewhat. Sometimes.
RE: PENTAX User Magazine in UK
Tom C wrote: > I just ran across the PENTAX User magazine online, published > quarterly in the UK. Any opinions from the group as to it's > usefulness? Is it worth the subscription price of almost $30 > US for four issues? I subscribe to this, mainly for the discount in servicing and some of the adverts. As a magazine read, it isn't bad, but quite a slim read. However, as it's dedicated to Pentax, it's got to be a winner! Malcolm
Re: PAW #7 -- Purple & Green
Hm, Hm and hmmm... The second one: well, the first time I looked at it, I immediately said, "I like the first one better!" But, now the second one's growing on me. Definitely more "impressionistic". Maybe that's why I'm coming to like it: it's different, but it works. It would be nice if ~one~ of the blooms were in sharper focus, but that's not catastrophic, IMHO. I'll look a few more times later, see what I think then. It has potential. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.aol.com/eactivist/pages/blurry.htm Is a blurry shot of flowers that I kind of liked and was asking questions about. I might try cropping it a bit, thanks Butch. Marnie aka Doe Definitely want to play with Macro lens some more, that's for sure. _ STOP MORE SPAM with the MSN Premium and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
RE: what photo magazine or books do you read?
Markus Maurer wrote: > what photographic publications do you read often and which > books about photography are a must to read and look at and why? I subscribe to Amateur Photographer and Pentax User Magazine. My photographic books are more 'how to do' than examples of a particular professional's work. I used to buy Photography Monthly from time to time, but I've rather gone off it. I'm not fond of any of the publications devoted to digital photography, as they often seem directed at computer enthusiasts. Malcolm
Re: PAW #7 -- Purple & Green
I like this a lot, Marnie. The colours are so harmonious! And, very spring-like (which we need here today - after a nice, if coolish day yesterday, it's currently +3C, raining very hard, and very windy - yuck!). I really like the composition, the way all the blooms are pointing in the same direction. I like the way you've got a bud or two, along with flowers in various stages of being open. Very cool. You got in there nice and close, and it's sharp enough, too. Yup. A lovely shot. thanks, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PAW #7 -- Purple & Green Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 12:33:31 EDT Well, it would help if you had the right url, so here it is. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/pages/flower.htm Left off the "pages" before. Sigh. Marnie aka Doe _ MSN Premium with Virus Guard and Firewall* from McAfee® Security : 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: PENTAX User Magazine in UK
I've been getting it for a while. Must be a full year now, maybe more... I'd say that if your interest emcompasses all things Pentax, and you are fond of the older Pentaxes as well as the newest ones, if you like some technical articles on equipment, techniques and reviews, you'll find all of that there. Then there are the illustrated ads, the descriptions of accessories for most Pentaxes, and always several great photos in the Gallery, from Pentax users, covering all manner of subjects. There is a regular column on the latest Pentax products, the Gift Shop pages, with good photos of Pentax goodies. The editor, Peter Bargh, is a fine fella. Not above a letter or two on pertinent subjects, if you are lucky... Very easy to get along with. If I had an opportunity to review an issue on the newstand, liked what I saw and wanted to take it home with me for US$7.50, would I? You bet! keith whaley Tom C wrote: I just ran across the PENTAX User magazine online, published quarterly in the UK. Any opinions from the group as to it's usefulness? Is it worth the subscription price of almost $30 US for four issues? Tom C.
Re: PAW - Just some kids hanging out
Marnie, I wear shorts and sandals almost year round, here in S. Calif. That includes Winter, if it's not too bitter. When we're going out somewhere, my wife has to tell me, "You have to put on shoes, you know!" Then I know what to expect. keith whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/25/2004 7:19:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Those are not ice cream cones. They are a candy bar of some sort, perhaps taffy, IIRC. I spent a fair amount of time with these kids, and I'm sure there's a photo of them by the store in which they bought their delicious treats. Might be a closer shot of them enjoying the candy, as well. Will have to dig out the CD on which the pics are stored. shel - Well, we bring ourselves to the photo. Kids. Kids eating treats. My head saw ice cream cones. The clothes thing didn't bother me, I know what SF can be like. Marnie ;-) And in the spring/summer even if it's cold(ish) you can see people in CA running around in shorts. (Hey, it's spring, I am wearing them.)
RE: PAW - Prescott Bayou
That's another pretty cool IR piccie.
You'll make a believer outta me yet, Larry!
BTW, what lens did you use? Looks wide-ish.
Oh yeah, the comp is just lovely. Pretty hard to make ponds look
interesting ('cause one's seen so many that after a while, a pond's a pond's
a pond, if ya know what I mean), but you've done it here, IMHO. I like
those plants in the foreground, the high horizon, the glass-smooth water
reflecting the trees.
Nice. Very nice.
thanks,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer
From: "Larry Hodgson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: PAW - Prescott Bayou
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 16:22:46 -0700
I took this Saturday morning using *istD with IR filter. Converted to B&W
in
Photoshop CS.
Comments welcome.
Larry from Prescott
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Re: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)
In a message dated 4/23/2004 5:08:52 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >From dpreview, a full summary someone has posted: I've collected the important specifications info & included it in the list, together with the prices via http://www.NexTag.com as of today: Portable Hard disk Devices - 12 devices (sorted by price): >- Vosonic X's Drive II VP2060 [~$240 for 40 GB; ~$90 for unit] (Any 2.5" HDD, no MP3, 130x75x25mm, 300g, B&W LCD for status) http://www.vosonic.com/index.php?php_mode=spec&php_itemid=11 >- Aska Tripper [~$250 for 40 GB; ~$140 for unit] (2.5" HDD, no MP3, 138x91x33mm, 300g, B&W LCD for status) http://www.aska-corp.co.jp/oem/e-pro-top.htm http://www.photo.net/equipment/digital/tripper/ >- Archos Gmini 220 [~$260 for 20 GB] (2.5" HDD, MP3, USB 2.0, 68x78x23mm, 170g, Gray-scale 2.5" LCD) http://www.archos.com/products/prw_500452.html >- Jobo Image Tank G2 [~$260 for 40 GB; ~$120 for unit alone] (Any 2.5" HDD, MP3, 145x87x35mm, 340g, B&W LCD for status) http://www.image-tank.com/englisch/e_itg2.html http://www.jobodigital.com/products/image_tank_g2.htm >- Vosonic X's-Drive Pro VP300 [~$270 for 40 GB; ~$120 for unit] (Any 2.5" HDD, MP3, 136x86x37mm, 329g, B&W LCD for status) http://www.vosonic.com/index.php?php_mode=spec&php_itemid=20 >- Archos AV140 Video Recorder [~$350 for 40 GB] (2.5" HDD, MP3 & Video/TV, 110x79x29mm, 290g, Color LCD) http://www.archos.com/products/prw_500431.html >- Vosonic V-MP3H [~$350 for 40 GB] (Any 2.5" HDD, MP3 & Video, 154x92x46 mm, 446g, Color 2.5" LCD) http://www.vosonic.com/index.php?php_mode=spec&php_itemid=4 >- Nixvue Digital Album Lite [~$380 for 40 GB] (2.5" HDD, no MP3, 146x83x29mm, 290g, B&W LCD for status) http://www.nixvue.com/products/da/albumlite/index.html >- Nixvue Vista [~$470 for 40 GB] (2.5" HDD, MP3, 146x83x29mm, 290g, Color 1.8" LCD) http://www.nixvue.com/products/vista/index.html Delkin eFilm PicturePad [~$440 for 40 GB; same as above] http://www.delkin.com/delkin_products_picturepad.html >- FlashTrax SmartDisk [~$480 for 40 GB] (2.5" HDD, MP3 & Video/TV, 143x92x32mm, 340g, Color 3.5" LCD) http://www.smartdisk.com/Products/DigitalMultimedia/FlashTrax.asp Innoplus Phototainer [same product as above, different marketing name] http://www.innoplus.com/html/eng_prod2.htm >- Archos AV340 Video Recorder [~$500 for 40 GB] (2.5" HDD, MP3 & DivX/XviD/TV, 112x82x31 mm, 350g, Color 3.8' LCD) http://www.archos.com/products/prw_500521.html Portable CD-R/W Recorders - 4 devices: >- Addonics MFR (also a DVD player) http://www.smartdisk.com/Products/DigitalMultimedia/FlashTrax.asp >- Nixvue Vizor http://www.nixvue.com/products/vizor/index.html >- Jobo Apacer Disc Steno CP200 http://www.apacer.com/apacer_english/product_html/disc_stone_cp200.asp >- ezPnP DigiMagic CD burner http://www.digi-magic.com Well, best choices depend on what you want and already have. E.g. if you got a notebook, then you don't need big LCD on device, and neither CD Recorder if you got one in notebook, for such people top three choices are probably: 1) Archos Gmini 220 [smallest and lightest, but just 20 GB] 2) Vosonic X's Drive II VP2060 [cheapest unit, but no MP3] 3) Jobo Image Tank G2 For those without notebook there are two categories to choose from, HD based & CD based devices. If one has big Compact Flash card or big Microdrive then I doubt CD recorders are wise choice, to backup 4 GB microdrive to 700 MB CDs is very slow... So, to me the top two choices with big LCDs are: 1) Archos AV340 Video Recorder [biggest LCD, plays DivX & XviD] 2) FlashTrax SmartDisk [nice & big LCD, video playback] >From CD recorders I like best Addonics MFR, since it's also DVD player, and as someone said, he has A.MFR and a small HDD device, good combo. I'd only buy portable CD recorder if I had to send copies around. But if some company comes out with DVD recorder, that would be much, much better device to choose. One could backup whole 4 GB Microdrive to one DVD media. One could have tons of MP3s on DVD media, one could have it to watch DVD movies too, etc. I think any serious field photographer should have two devices: 1. Small and light 12" tablet PC with DVD recorder for final backups 2. Smallest and lightest portable HD based device for field usage Anyone want to add some other devices and opinions? There is much more into these devices than specs & prices of course :) Hope this helps to someone & good luck with your choices! Boyan P.S. Shop with good selection of portable devices: http://www.mydigitaldiscount.com/s.nl/c.ACCT139057/sc.2/category.3/.f --- Hey, cool, hadn't realized this thread had continued or that someone HAD gathered all the info. together. Personally, I almost went with the Apacer Steno Disc (because of not having to worry abou
RE: HELP!!! *ist D!
Have you checked the electrical contacts - they may be dirty, oxidised or otherwise damaged? And - Yes digital users have to put up with a lot (RAMcards, cardreaders, computers, batteries, printers, cartridges etc.). Just not film developers, tanks, water and chemical containers, enlargers etc. :-) Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 25. april 2004 18:26 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: HELP!!! *ist D! I should add that I like simple, old cameras as well. But I do love what digital has done for my workflow. Paul On Apr 25, 2004, at 10:53 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > I can't help you at all, but it amazes me what you digital > users have to put up with some times. Aaack!! is right. > > Almost every day here I'm reminded why I like simple, old > cameras ... > > shel > > William M Kane wrote: >> >> ACK >> >> I was out shooting this morning and on my last picture, the *ist D >> told me that the "Battery Depleted", so I went in, grabbed some fresh >> AA's and put them in both the grip and the body . . . it still >> complained about low batteries, so I ran out to the local market and >> picked up a pair of 2016 button batteries. It's still telling me it >> has low batteries. >> >> Anyone know if this is a glitch that can be fixed easily, or am I >> going to have to send my *ist D in for service? >> >> AH >> >> IL Bill >
More TOPDML pix-was: TOPDML Pictures:was: paw-more abandoned buildings
Right. So, here's some that Jeff took. At least you can see my face in one (it's a horrible photo, though - I really don't look like that much): http://img30.photobucket.com/albums/v90/jefkom/Stouffville/ BTW, those horses are at the stable where Dave keeps the family nag (just joking, she's a lovely horse!), but it was too dark in the stall to get a pic without a flash, and we didn't want to spook anyone. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: TOPDML Pictures:was: paw-more abandoned buildings Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 10:48:27 -0400 Thanks Dave, you caught me from my best side!! (re: abandoned building photo) It was nice meeting your lovely wife, who stopped by for a beer. A good day all round (except, Krispy Kream donuts are overrated and overpriced - Give me Tim Horton's any day of the week) cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TOPDML Pictures:was: paw-more abandoned buildings Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 07:39:00 US/Eastern http://www.caughtinmotion.com/paw/topdml_1.jpg Here is a quick collage of some i took yesterday. Top row: Landing duck, Nesting Goose (shes in the crook of a willow tree with her nest) Middle row: Jeff shooting geese, Frank shooting the abansoned building # 3 Botton row: Jeff and Frank shooting the Trumpeter Swans, the old building different view. Then we went for a beer, only to see Calgary lose. Dave > That's the one, thanks. They better post some photospre and post-pub > . > Norm > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Thanks Norm.Glad you like it. > > > >Is this the link: > >http://home2.planetinternet.be/henk/index.html > > > >We stopped at the building this afternoon during the TOPDML meet. It would be interesting > >to see how > >Frank and Jeff shot it. > > > > > > > > > _ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines _ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
RE: PAW: moon
Cool shot Alex! It's always been my aspirations to get into astrophotography, especially deep space objects. Tom C. From: alex wetmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PAW: moon Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 10:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Last night I got together with some friends and their telescopes. I brought along my *ist D. This was shot with a 1540mm f11 telescope (Orion Starmax or something) and the *ist D in prime focus (telescope acting as the primary lens). ISO 200, 1/10". http://www.phred.org/~alex/pictures/moon/moon-bluesky.jpg No real processing except for contrast adjustment, cropping, and a little sharpening. Focusing through the telescope was very difficult, so this isn't as sharp as I would have hoped. It gives us more reasons to try again. This is a nice little telescope for photography though, as it has T-threads right on the eyepiece mount, was reasonably priced, and very compact. alex _ Watch LIVE baseball games on your computer with MLB.TV, included with MSN Premium! http://join.msn.com/?page=features/mlb&pgmarket=en-us/go/onm00200439ave/direct/01/
Re: PAW - Just some kids hanging out
In a message dated 4/25/2004 7:19:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Those are not ice cream cones. They are a candy bar of some sort, perhaps taffy, IIRC. I spent a fair amount of time with these kids, and I'm sure there's a photo of them by the store in which they bought their delicious treats. Might be a closer shot of them enjoying the candy, as well. Will have to dig out the CD on which the pics are stored. shel - Well, we bring ourselves to the photo. Kids. Kids eating treats. My head saw ice cream cones. The clothes thing didn't bother me, I know what SF can be like. Marnie ;-) And in the spring/summer even if it's cold(ish) you can see people in CA running around in shorts. (Hey, it's spring, I am wearing them.)
Re: where is the crossing line ?
Ahh... I believe you but I don't understand... I would think alignment and precision were an integral part of any camera design. Tom C. From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: where is the crossing line ? Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 11:31:04 -0600 - Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: where is the crossing line ? > > I wonder why or if it's difficult to make a viewfinder with a 100% view > The high end Nikon F cameras were 100% viewfinders. I recall when I bought my F2s, that the word was that the 100% viewfinder added about 50% to the cost of the camera because of all the extra alignment issues. Robot building techniques may have negated some of this cost, but it is one of the most expensive features to put on a camera. William Robb _ From must-see cities to the best beaches, plan a getaway with the Spring Travel Guide! http://special.msn.com/local/springtravel.armx
Re: London PDML Meeting - some snaps
Those aren't his real legs. He's actually standing in the river. John On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 10:38:24 -0700, Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Are the other two chaps really tall too, or did Cotty have on his short shoes? keith John Forbes wrote: I've recorded this aspicious event here: http://www.johnforbes.homechoice.co.uk/john/pdml.htm John -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
what photo magazine or books do you read?
Sunday evening Survey :-) what photographic publications do you read often and which books about photography are a must to read and look at and why? - I bought a used set of 12 Time life books about photography themes and the history of photography over an internet auction lately and enjoyed reading them and looking at the beautiful photos a lot. For most of the indoor photos, they show how it was made, from where the artificial light did come with different examples for portraits and what else was used. thanks Markus
PENTAX User Magazine in UK
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Re: London PDML Meeting - some snaps
Are the other two chaps really tall too, or did Cotty have on his short shoes? keith John Forbes wrote: I've recorded this aspicious event here: http://www.johnforbes.homechoice.co.uk/john/pdml.htm John
Re: Pentax A20/2.8 Query
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: Pentax A20/2.8 Query > Ohhh ... that sounds nice. I like that 100 macro feel, also > the way the A135/1.8 felt. Some of the A lenses have a very > unsatisfactory feel. > > 67mm filters, right? 67mm filters. William Robb
Re: where is the crossing line ?
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: where is the crossing line ? > > I wonder why or if it's difficult to make a viewfinder with a 100% view > The high end Nikon F cameras were 100% viewfinders. I recall when I bought my F2s, that the word was that the 100% viewfinder added about 50% to the cost of the camera because of all the extra alignment issues. Robot building techniques may have negated some of this cost, but it is one of the most expensive features to put on a camera. William Robb
PAW: moon
Last night I got together with some friends and their telescopes. I brought along my *ist D. This was shot with a 1540mm f11 telescope (Orion Starmax or something) and the *ist D in prime focus (telescope acting as the primary lens). ISO 200, 1/10". http://www.phred.org/~alex/pictures/moon/moon-bluesky.jpg No real processing except for contrast adjustment, cropping, and a little sharpening. Focusing through the telescope was very difficult, so this isn't as sharp as I would have hoped. It gives us more reasons to try again. This is a nice little telescope for photography though, as it has T-threads right on the eyepiece mount, was reasonably priced, and very compact. alex
Re: London PDML Meeting - some snaps
On 25/4/04, BOB W, [severely] discombobulated, offered: >one of the pleasures of the PDML is the scarcely believable variety of >people it attracts. How else would it be possible for somebody like me >to meet in one evening: > >1. someone who lives on a volcano > >2. someone who turned down an offer of help from Wilfred Thesiger >while stranded in the bush > >3. someone who collides electrons for a living > >4. Cotty LOL. I'll take that as a compliment. Just logged on (Sunday pm) after a hard afternoon's toil cleaning, rebuilding, and - of course - modifying the barbeque after unearthing it in the dank recesses of the garage. Gotta have the priorities in the right order. How do you modify a barbeque? I'll save that for another post . I can't add to John Forbes' excellent precis of our little jaunt along the river >JF: I've recorded this aspicious event here: > >> http://www.johnforbes.homechoice.co.uk/john/pdml.htm except to say that I thoroughly enjoyed meeting up with the lads and walking ALL that way (Bob!) and a hearty thanks for the company, guys. Especially to Gianfranco - that was a heck of a way to come for an evening ! I haven't sat down yet to load the few pics I snapped onto the hard drive, so I'll hopefully do that a bit later tonight and see if anything's in focus. If they're not, then I'll keep them small to disguise it. Should be one or two. Checking focus on the D60 is not so much hit and miss, as in just 'miss'. Thanks once again for letting me crash out on the futon Bob. (I slept like a baby - kept waking up and was sick everywhere). More soon. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: London PDML Meeting Reminder - This Saturday - Update please
On 24/4/04, BOB, [fatally] discombobulated, offered: >> Just about to head off up to town to meet up with Bob, Gianco, Steve J >> and John F. > >> Just waiting to see Button put in a decent time around Imola... > >see you in about 3 years then. Cheeky [expletive deleted]. POLE! 2nd in the race! Oh ye of little faith! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: Pentax A20/2.8 Query
How large do you want it :-) I´ve got a 60MB 16bit TIFF-file with 3816x2604 pixels scanned with a Minolta Elite II scanner, but I have to send it by mail... DagT På 25. apr. 2004 kl. 17.30 skrev Shel Belinkoff: Some very nice pics, there ;-)) Do you have a large one of this: http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=71209 which I REALLY like quite a bit. It seems to have just the elements I'm looking for in order to make a comparison to my 20mm and 18mm Thanks! Dag T wrote: It is a great lens. Here´s some examples: http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=83826 http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=72128 http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=71919 http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=71209 http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=59814 http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=57280 http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=50426 I don´t write down the technical details, so I can´t help you there. DagT På 25. apr. 2004 kl. 06.25 skrev Shel Belinkoff: Goes anyone have a full-frame photo that they can post that was made with the above lens? I'd love to see one. If no pics are available, any comments on the quality, sharpness - center and edges - light falloff, and so on. Thanks!
Re: HELP!!! *ist D!
I should add that I like simple, old cameras as well. But I do love what digital has done for my workflow. Paul On Apr 25, 2004, at 10:53 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I can't help you at all, but it amazes me what you digital users have to put up with some times. Aaack!! is right. Almost every day here I'm reminded why I like simple, old cameras ... shel William M Kane wrote: ACK I was out shooting this morning and on my last picture, the *ist D told me that the "Battery Depleted", so I went in, grabbed some fresh AA's and put them in both the grip and the body . . . it still complained about low batteries, so I ran out to the local market and picked up a pair of 2016 button batteries. It's still telling me it has low batteries. Anyone know if this is a glitch that can be fixed easily, or am I going to have to send my *ist D in for service? AH IL Bill
Re: HELP!!! *ist D!
Actually, I'm quite impressed with the reliability of the *ist D. I've shot more than 3000 frames without a problem. I think there were some initial build defects (I sent my first camera back), but I haven't heard many reports of genuine in-use failures. Most reported failures have proved to be merely operator error, or as in Bill's example, dead batteries. Paul On Apr 25, 2004, at 10:53 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I can't help you at all, but it amazes me what you digital users have to put up with some times. Aaack!! is right. Almost every day here I'm reminded why I like simple, old cameras ... shel William M Kane wrote: ACK I was out shooting this morning and on my last picture, the *ist D told me that the "Battery Depleted", so I went in, grabbed some fresh AA's and put them in both the grip and the body . . . it still complained about low batteries, so I ran out to the local market and picked up a pair of 2016 button batteries. It's still telling me it has low batteries. Anyone know if this is a glitch that can be fixed easily, or am I going to have to send my *ist D in for service? AH IL Bill
Re: 2 newer pictures at photo.net
This one is nice Markus, I like the lighting, composition and subject. Nice mood. Norm Markus Maurer wrote: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2314030 Usually grave stones lead to sadness but the light late in the afternoon and the animal with the nut (don't know it's name in English), which is the most important detail for me, gives "some kind of hope". The text on the second gravestone is translated: "Light awaits Albertina Weisshaupt"
Re: HELP!!! *ist D!
David, THANK YOU!! I went ahead and recharged my rechargeables, and moved all of the alkalines off into a pile. The rechargables just finished recharging and I tossed them right into the grip . . . low and behold, the camera is now fine. That gave me quite a start. I guess the thing to do is to buy another set or two of rechargables, adn always have them ready. Back to photography, IL Bill On Sunday, April 25, 2004, at 09:57 AM, David Madsen wrote: It could be the batteries. I tried using fresh alkaline AAs once and it gave me the depleted power signal. Yesterday I changed the rechargeable batteries and got the no juice signal, put in a different set and it worked fine. I put the first set on the charger and they were dead. I had charged them but they died while waiting to be used, I guess. So I'd say try another set of batteries, but not alkalines, and see if it helps. David Madsen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.davidmadsen.com -Original Message- From: William M Kane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 8:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: HELP!!! *ist D! ACK I was out shooting this morning and on my last picture, the *ist D told me that the "Battery Depleted", so I went in, grabbed some fresh AA's and put them in both the grip and the body . . . it still complained about low batteries, so I ran out to the local market and picked up a pair of 2016 button batteries. It's still telling me it has low batteries. Anyone know if this is a glitch that can be fixed easily, or am I going to have to send my *ist D in for service? AH IL Bill
Re: CD-R lifetimes disputed
LOL! Norm William Robb wrote: Very few photos are worth archiving anyway. It is human arrogance that makes people think that their photos are worth the effort.
Re: HELP!!! *ist D!
Hi William, on 25 Apr 04 you wrote in pentax.list: >Anyone know if this is a glitch that can be fixed easily, or am I >going to have to send my *ist D in for service? Try using the batteries either in the camera or the grip only, not in both battery compartments. Cheers, Heiko
Re: HELP!!! *ist D!
Markus, Unfortunatly there is no way to reset the defaults in the current condition. The camera will only blink the empty battery symbol at me. None of the buttons, or dials work :-( Thanks though, Bill On Sunday, April 25, 2004, at 10:26 AM, Markus Maurer wrote: Hi William is there a way to reset the camera to it's defaults - you would loose personal settings? just guessing, that's what I have to do with computer equipment sometimes :-) Markus I was out shooting this morning and on my last picture, the *ist D told me that the "Battery Depleted", so I went in, grabbed some fresh Anyone know if this is a glitch that can be fixed easily, or am I going to have to send my *ist D in for service?
Re: Pentax A20/2.8 Query
Some very nice pics, there ;-)) Do you have a large one of this: http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=71209 which I REALLY like quite a bit. It seems to have just the elements I'm looking for in order to make a comparison to my 20mm and 18mm Thanks! Dag T wrote: > > It is a great lens. Here´s some examples: > > http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=83826 > http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=72128 > http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=71919 > http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=71209 > http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=59814 > http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=57280 > http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=50426 > > I don´t write down the technical details, so I can´t help you there. > > DagT > > På 25. apr. 2004 kl. 06.25 skrev Shel Belinkoff: > > > Goes anyone have a full-frame photo that they can post that > > was made with the above lens? I'd love to see one. If no > > pics are available, any comments on the quality, sharpness - > > center and edges - light falloff, and so on. Thanks! > >
RE: HELP!!! *ist D!
Hi William is there a way to reset the camera to it's defaults - you would loose personal settings? just guessing, that's what I have to do with computer equipment sometimes :-) Markus > I was out shooting this morning and on my last picture, the *ist D > told me that the "Battery Depleted", so I went in, grabbed some fresh > Anyone know if this is a glitch that can be fixed easily, or am I > going to have to send my *ist D in for service?
RE: Photo.net new account for "furball" and others
Hi Steve I am not certain about or whether it is a race, could be "Norwegische Waldkatze" = Norwegian forest cat. They wanted to kill him 3 years ago, because he was fighting with all the other cats, I got him from the doctor and do not know more about his history. Yes, Leo Leu Lowenzahn is "a bit larger", in fact he is huge, around 6 Kilos, nearly two times that of my former male cat. That's why he has 3 times "lion" in his name, but "Lowenzahn" = "Lions tooth" is also a very common yellow wildflower ( you can make salad with it) you find everywhere. He received the last part of his name, because, when he bytes you, you know it for sure! He is like a dog following me for walks... Markus >> Is there a name for these orange and white cats?
Re: PAW - Just some kids hanging out
I gotta proof read before I hit send! "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I guess it must the temperate due to its proximaty with the ocean. _ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: PAW - Just some kids hanging out
I sure do remember that one (which I liked a lot, but I like the "new" one better - there's more of a dynamic happening, not as static). I can see now that they're eating some sort of taffee. Marnie threw me off by mentioning ice cream cones. Amazing how other people see things in one's work that the artist didn't see him/herself, eh? cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PAW - Just some kids hanging out Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 07:16:54 -0700 Hi Frank ... You always see more in my photos than I do ;-)) Thanks for your keen observations and kind comments. I'm sure you remember this one http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/trike.html Somewhat different perspective with the 20mm lens, which I used quite a bit when photographing the neighborhood kids, those days. _ MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: D76
- Original Message - From: "David Miers" Subject: RE: D76 > I'm certainly not an expert in this field and offer this link only for your > examination. Draw your own conclusions. I have. The old fashioned way. Running sensitometric tests of T-Max 100 and 400 film in both developers. I think it was one of Asimov's books, an archeologist who did no archeology. William Robb
Re: PAW - Just some kids hanging out
I guess it must the temperate due to its proximaty with the ocean. Nova Scotia's like that. Cool summers. When the temp gets around 70F the locals are telling me how hot it is, while I'm wondering when summer's going to come. They call it "The Air Conditioned Province". -frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PAW - Just some kids hanging out Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 07:13:41 -0700 Hi Frank ... I believe it was Mark Twain who was reported to have said, "The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco." Those are not ice cream cones, rather, some sort of candy bar, like a taffy, iirc. shel frank theriault wrote: > > Interesting that the two in the back are wearing coats, but the two in front > are in t-shirts. > > If the weather is cool enough for coats, I bet the ice cream cone won't melt > for a while! > > > _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: PAW - Just some kids hanging out
Those are not ice cream cones. They are a candy bar of some sort, perhaps taffy, IIRC. I spent a fair amount of time with these kids, and I'm sure there's a photo of them by the store in which they bought their delicious treats. Might be a closer shot of them enjoying the candy, as well. Will have to dig out the CD on which the pics are stored. shel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Like it. As someone said, all expressions, from those not reacting to you to > those who are. > > Looks like what it is, kids hanging out. And the ice cream cones are a nice > touch, because ice cream cones are such a kid thing. > > I never finished my cone without becoming messy somehow. Look at the > concentration on that girl's face, she wants it all before it melts. Course, she is > eating it, not licking it, so no problem there. ;-)
Re: PAW - Just some kids hanging out
Hi Frank ... You always see more in my photos than I do ;-)) Thanks for your keen observations and kind comments. I'm sure you remember this one http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/trike.html Somewhat different perspective with the 20mm lens, which I used quite a bit when photographing the neighborhood kids, those days. shel frank theriault wrote: > > As you know, Shel, > > I just love this whole series - I still think/hope you can somehow get it > published; it's such a wonderful chronical of those times. > > In this case, you show us how to use an ultra-wide on the street! The kid > in the foreground dominates the frame, even though we know he's the same > size (roughly) as the others. > > Such emotion! The "tough boy" in the front, the two in the back ignoring > him. The one of the trike, smiling (or is it smirking?). Even though he > can't see Tough Boy's face, it's as if he can, and is responding with a > "whatever" - as in, "you only ~thing~ your tough, but we both know I could > whoop your ass". > > As always, the composition is wonderful, the stairs, railing, the pattern of > the bricks, it all seems in harmony with the subjects.
Re: PAW - Just some kids hanging out
Hi Frank ... I believe it was Mark Twain who was reported to have said, "The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco." Those are not ice cream cones, rather, some sort of candy bar, like a taffy, iirc. shel frank theriault wrote: > > Interesting that the two in the back are wearing coats, but the two in front > are in t-shirts. > > If the weather is cool enough for coats, I bet the ice cream cone won't melt > for a while! > > >
Re: PAW - Just some kids hanging out
Hi Markus ... So pleased that you liked the PAW this week. The kids were great ... there are more to be posted at another time. Stay tuned You asked to see another one, here it is ... ;-))) http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/trike.html shel Markus Maurer wrote: > > Hi Shel > it is the first photo I see from you and I like it, because it seems to be > real kids life to me. > The gang seems proud and cool and enjoying the photo session but trying to > hide their thoughts somewhat. > > Critics: > Nothing missing if it is a single snapshot > I would like to see alternatives shoots with the eyes of the boy in the > background next to the girl more visible and more of the bike in the > foreground to compare which view I would prefer. > What was your distance to the group, you must have been pretty close with a > 20mm, assuming the image is unaltered. > > Do you have more of them, I am getting appetite. > Markus
I´m off
I´m planning to do a couple of days motorcycling in Denmark so I have to unsubscribe for the duration. I hope to see my e-mails, though. All the best! Raimo K Personal photography homepage at: http:\\www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho - Original Message - From: "Markus Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 4:51 PM Subject: RE: PAW - Just some kids hanging out > Hi Shel > it is the first photo I see from you and I like it, because it seems to be > real kids life to me. > The gang seems proud and cool and enjoying the photo session but trying to > hide their thoughts somewhat. > > Critics: > Nothing missing if it is a single snapshot > I would like to see alternatives shoots with the eyes of the boy in the > background next to the girl more visible and more of the bike in the > foreground to compare which view I would prefer. > What was your distance to the group, you must have been pretty close with a > 20mm, assuming the image is unaltered. > > Do you have more of them, I am getting appetite. > Markus > > > > > > > >Perhaps you remember this gang from an earlier pic. Here > >they are again, hanging out on the sidewalk in San > >Francisco's Mission District one summer afternoon. Comments > >and crits are always welcome. > >
RE: PAW - Just some kids hanging out
Hi Shel it is the first photo I see from you and I like it, because it seems to be real kids life to me. The gang seems proud and cool and enjoying the photo session but trying to hide their thoughts somewhat. Critics: Nothing missing if it is a single snapshot I would like to see alternatives shoots with the eyes of the boy in the background next to the girl more visible and more of the bike in the foreground to compare which view I would prefer. What was your distance to the group, you must have been pretty close with a 20mm, assuming the image is unaltered. Do you have more of them, I am getting appetite. Markus > >Perhaps you remember this gang from an earlier pic. Here >they are again, hanging out on the sidewalk in San >Francisco's Mission District one summer afternoon. Comments >and crits are always welcome.
Re: PAW - Just some kids hanging out
Interesting that the two in the back are wearing coats, but the two in front are in t-shirts. If the weather is cool enough for coats, I bet the ice cream cone won't melt for a while! -frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] concentration on that girl's face, she wants it all before it melts. Course, she is eating it, not licking it, so no problem there. ;-) Marnie aka Doe _ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
RE: PAW - Just some kids hanging out
As you know, Shel, I just love this whole series - I still think/hope you can somehow get it published; it's such a wonderful chronical of those times. In this case, you show us how to use an ultra-wide on the street! The kid in the foreground dominates the frame, even though we know he's the same size (roughly) as the others. Such emotion! The "tough boy" in the front, the two in the back ignoring him. The one of the trike, smiling (or is it smirking?). Even though he can't see Tough Boy's face, it's as if he can, and is responding with a "whatever" - as in, "you only ~thing~ your tough, but we both know I could whoop your ass". As always, the composition is wonderful, the stairs, railing, the pattern of the bricks, it all seems in harmony with the subjects. thanks, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: PAW - Just some kids hanging out Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 10:46:37 -0700 Perhaps you remember this gang from an earlier pic. Here they are again, hanging out on the sidewalk in San Francisco's Mission District one summer afternoon. Comments and crits are always welcome. http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/paw/justkids.html _ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: PAW - Just some kids hanging out
In a message dated 4/24/2004 10:47:57 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps you remember this gang from an earlier pic. Here they are again, hanging out on the sidewalk in San Francisco's Mission District one summer afternoon. Comments and crits are always welcome. http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/paw/justkids.html -- Like it. As someone said, all expressions, from those not reacting to you to those who are. Looks like what it is, kids hanging out. And the ice cream cones are a nice touch, because ice cream cones are such a kid thing. I never finished my cone without becoming messy somehow. Look at the concentration on that girl's face, she wants it all before it melts. Course, she is eating it, not licking it, so no problem there. ;-) Marnie aka Doe
Photo.net new account for "furball" and others
Thanks to the advice from a Pentax users in this group I have today created an account with www.photo.net and placed 2 old and one recent photo at the following link: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2313816 This is just a test, I will soon place recent photos there. But "Furball" really should have a look at "Leo Leu Löwenzahn", better pictures and close ups follow soon of course ;-) http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2313809 I was suprised at the coloring of the blue sky in the picture from the railstation. It ist overexposed 10 seconds on a tripod after the sun went down in the last available light. Sadly, the trains and their light went nearly invisible. Pentax me super, Pentax A-24.mm 2.8 at 22, Fujji Superia 100. http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=246229 I only did very low resolution scans ast 150dpi and compressed the images to 90%, is there a better way, photo.net has a limit of 100kb size? Of course I really have to clean the scanner, there is dust and fingerprints on it, sorry. thanks Markus
Re: Not a PAW but a recent QuikSnap
Shel, That's the cool thing about art (I seem to be on that this weekend - don't know why, maybe doing 10 or 15 PAW commentaries yesterday morning has me considering these sorts of things). I love it when people see things in my photos that I didn't. I don't mean actual physical details, but who experience feelings that I didn't when I took the photo, and don't when I look into the photo. I'm amazed at how often I'll understand the feelings of those viewers and begin to feel them myself. Of course that applies to any work that I'm looking at, not just my photos. I guess that's why going to a mueum or gallery is so much fun - you stand in front of a piece of art, and sometimes discuss it with whomever's next to you and you both come away with a different understanding. I'm glad you don't mind that my feelings while looking at yours were different from yours. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Not a PAW but a recent QuikSnap Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 07:03:13 -0700 Hi Frank ... While not intended as anything but a QuikSnap of an interesting house, your comments are right on, and, maybe, there was some unintentional comment about that in the photo. You see, back around 1990 a terrible fire swept through the area in which that house is located. Literally hundreds of homes were destroyed, whole communities were burnt to the ground. In general, the area was filled with older, small homes. Many were summer homes for San Franciscans, who built small, simple places to use to get out of the terrible, cold, wet, San Francisco summers. This area was always sunny and warm. After the fire destroyed the homes, many were rebuilt, not as the small homes they once were, not as homes that really fit well into their environment, but as small castle, huge places out place in the rustic, woodsy hills of Oakland. Many of these places are ugly, and, being built on the burnt out hills, are glaringly ugly, as they now stand out on the barren hillsides without the softening effect of trees. shel frank theriault wrote: > > Cool shot. You're right, Shel, interesting colours and interesting shape to > the house. > > As it was loading, I was thinking about why anyone needs a house that large. > There's something in there about consumerism in the Western World, about > the type of society where people desire monster houses while 1/4 of the > world goes to bed hungry. > > But, none of that has to do with your photo. That's just my reaction to it. > > cheers, > frank _ http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: Not a PAW but a recent QuikSnap
Peter, If some Eastern Potentate, Bill Gates or the Pope lived in that house, I might be okay with it. But it's probably just some day trader, who's fortune could be wiped out by a burp in the stock market... -frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Not a PAW but a recent QuikSnap Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 10:26:36 -0400 Everyone in the world who's important seems to want a big house. Eastern Potentates, Bill Gates, The Pope, it's something in human nature. frank theriault wrote: Cool shot. You're right, Shel, interesting colours and interesting shape to the house. As it was loading, I was thinking about why anyone needs a house that large. There's something in there about consumerism in the Western World, about the type of society where people desire monster houses while 1/4 of the world goes to bed hungry. But, none of that has to do with your photo. That's just my reaction to it. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Not a PAW but a recent QuikSnap Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 01:18:29 -0700 While driving in the hills near my house on Sunday, I saw this little scene and was struck by the colors and the shape of the house, and how it sits amongst the trees. Grabbed it with the little Sony DSC-S85 http://home.earthlink.net/~digisnaps/house-in-hills.html _ MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines _ MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
OT:How frank Looks at Photos (long)-was: More wedding PAW
Boris, Boris, Boris,
As I said in response to Bill Owens last week or so, when he said, something
to the effect, "I like a critique that tells me what I did wrong", don't
take my words as gospel. Or anything else of authority.
Especially in the situation of your photo. I was telling you what I felt
looking at your photo. I'm just one person. What one feels from looking at
art is subjective, and will not always be felt or perceived by others.
Apparently others didn't pick up things the way I did, judging by the
numbers that said they liked it.
It seems that many others thought this a perfectly charming photo, and it's
likely that they're right. OTOH, I'm also right in what I felt, because
feelings can't be wrong, can they? At least not the feelings one gets when
one experiences art.
Don't forget that everyone who looks at your photographs with any amount of
critical bent (as opposed to those who view all photos like snapshots, and
in a kneejerk reaction, look and say, "yeah, that's pretty") is bringing all
of their emotional baggage and all of their past experiences (both good and
bad) into the viewing, perceiving, experiencing and feeling process. (I know
there's lots of overlap between those words, but I use them purposely).
Some photographs I get into, some I don't. That doesn't mean that those
that I don't get into aren't good, just that they didn't do much for me.
Some photos I totally get into, but for some reason they don't tell me
things the way I expect them to, or to be more precise, (especially if I
know the photographer) don't tell me things the way I expect the
photographer intends - and this, as you may have already guessed, applies to
your wedding photo. And some photographs are absolutely perfect.
Now, of course, perfection doesn't exist in art or in photography. But what
I mean is that I can find nothing wrong with the photograph I'm looking at.
There may be technical flaws, but something about the photograph overcomes
those flaws. A perfect photo ~speaks~ to me; it's truly an emotional
experience. The emotion I feel may be extatic joy or profound sadness, or
anything in between, but (and I only thought of this as I typed), I feel an
actual emotional connection with the photographer. It's as if I ~know~
exactly what he/she was trying to say, and "I get it" ("it" being what the
photographer is trying to say in the photograph).
Now, all that pompous crap aside, I know that my perceptions and feelings
may be entirely wrong. I may not absolutely know what the photographer was
saying, but the point is, I ~feel~ as I do.
I may be making no sense here, but hopefully someone out there can cut
thought the inarticulate mush and figure out a bit of what I'm meaning here.
Now, this has turned out to be a rather long and self-indulgent post, which
wasn't my intention when I started typing what I expected to be a two
paragraph note . But, since I was kind of taken to task several weeks
ago for what was perceived to be a less than complimentary comment, and
since I've been thanked twice recently for revealing a few details of photos
that left me wanting, and since I try to comment on all the PAWs, I thought
it might be useful for folks to know what my process is.
So, to summarize:
Just because I don't like it doesn't mean it's bad;
Just because I do like it doesn't mean it's good;
My feelings are ~my~ feelings, and may or may not be shared by anyone else.
See what you started, Boris?
cheers,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer
From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I should admit that I am very bad in determining a fellow human
emotions. I am reminded of your comments on my photos of my wife
applying a carnival make up on our daughter... I did not see fear in
her eyes until you and others wrote me so...
Then in your very case I've failed and quite miserably so. The person
on the right foreground is a mother of the child and she and the bride
are good friends.
Could be, bride hadn't held too many babies in her hands and so she is
a little uncomfortable, apprehensive. But I did not see it ...
ft> Now, maybe that's what you were trying to portray, and if so, fine.
But if
ft> you weren't, unfortunately, that's what I'm feeling.
Thanks for writing what you wrote, Frank. I surely need more practice
here.
Thanks a lot!
Boris
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REPentax A20/2.8 Query
DagT Very nice wide angle shots. I'm glad you like this lens (one of my favorites) - I realize now, that I should use mine more often. Mine has a tendensy to overexpose - only on some cameras (Z1) for some odd reason. All the best Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Dag T [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 25. april 2004 12:48 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Pentax A20/2.8 Query It is a great lens. Here´s some examples: http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=83826 http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=72128 http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=71919 http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=71209 http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=59814 http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=57280 http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=50426 I don´t write down the technical details, so I can´t help you there. DagT På 25. apr. 2004 kl. 06.25 skrev Shel Belinkoff: > Goes anyone have a full-frame photo that they can post that > was made with the above lens? I'd love to see one. If no > pics are available, any comments on the quality, sharpness - > center and edges - light falloff, and so on. Thanks! >
RE: "The White Elf"
That's right, Markus. Thanks for letting me know. I think there's a problem with www.fotopic.net at the moment. The link for my concert shots - Den Hvide Alf (The White Elf) is however working fine: http://gallery59991.fotopic.net/c162875.html I will check my PAW-gallery and keep you posted. BTW: I may very well be wrong about the Tokina SD lens you asked about previously. I believe mine was a telephoto zoom (longer than 70mm), I don't really recall, since I sold it before I got a private computer. So I have no records. I have checked Photodo. They have no tests of this SD lens. I don't know a lot of other test sites, but I guess they may exist very well exist somewhere... Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Markus Maurer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 25. april 2004 13:54 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: RE: "The White Elf" Hi Jens I wanted to see the full street cafe picture on your website but when I click on the thumbnail, nothings but an empty page with the navigation bars shows up. Slideshow does not work too here. I also tried the link you provided before in emails. Do you use any scripting language that my browser may block, I have enabled Java but disabled ActiveX? If I can solve this I will have a look at the concert photos... Markus >>What do you think of my concert shots from The White Elf?
RE: "The White Elf"
Hi Jens I wanted to see the full street cafe picture on your website but when I click on the thumbnail, nothings but an empty page with the navigation bars shows up. Slideshow does not work too here. I also tried the link you provided before in emails. Do you use any scripting language that my browser may block, I have enabled Java but disabled ActiveX? If I can solve this I will have a look at the concert photos... Markus >>What do you think of my concert shots from The White Elf?
TOPDML Pictures:was: paw-more abandoned buildings
http://www.caughtinmotion.com/paw/topdml_1.jpg Here is a quick collage of some i took yesterday. Top row: Landing duck, Nesting Goose (shes in the crook of a willow tree with her nest) Middle row: Jeff shooting geese, Frank shooting the abansoned building # 3 Botton row: Jeff and Frank shooting the Trumpeter Swans, the old building different view. Then we went for a beer, only to see Calgary lose. Dave > That's the one, thanks. They better post some photospre and post-pub > . > Norm > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Thanks Norm.Glad you like it. > > > >Is this the link: > >http://home2.planetinternet.be/henk/index.html > > > >We stopped at the building this afternoon during the TOPDML meet. It would be interesting > >to see how > >Frank and Jeff shot it. > > > > > > > > >
RE: My paw-April 18
Thanks for your comment, Markus. I was trying more for the silloette of the bullrushes,but i dont think i achieved that very well. Dave > Hi Dave > the picture is too minimalistic for my personal taste and I would like to > see more details of the plants. > I like the idea behind. > happy Sunday > Markus > > > > > > http://www.caughtinmotion.com/paw/bullrush.jpg > > > >
Re: converting color photos for black and white
I've had good luck converting color neg, even high speed, to b&w. The color mixer tool in Photoshop is a good place to start when performing the conversion; there are plugs and actions available to assist as well. The problem you might have will be _printing_ them. Most inkjet type printers can't print truely neutral B&W. I cheat by adding a cold or warm tint. Markus Maurer wrote: Hi Pentax users I' am playing with the idea of making some black and white enlargements in the size of 24X36cm of older color photos, sadly most are from fast ISO 200-400 negative color film, so I expect some real visible grain. What's your experience with conversions from color to black and white and should I just let the lab do it from the color negatives or photos or try scanning the color pictures or negatives (if I still have them) and manipulate them on the computer. I have the software to do so but really not much experience with that. What loss of quality do I have to expect? The computer would be nice because I can preview everything and crop the image myself, on the other side, my scanning equipment is not that professional to scan negatives very well.
Re: Pentax A20/2.8 Query
It is a great lens. Here´s some examples: http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=83826 http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=72128 http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=71919 http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=71209 http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=59814 http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=57280 http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=50426 I don´t write down the technical details, so I can´t help you there. DagT På 25. apr. 2004 kl. 06.25 skrev Shel Belinkoff: Goes anyone have a full-frame photo that they can post that was made with the above lens? I'd love to see one. If no pics are available, any comments on the quality, sharpness - center and edges - light falloff, and so on. Thanks!
RE: Saturday Survey
Dag T wrote: > Well, I bought mine two ears ago, and yes, I now want the AF > version :-) Well, they say expensive things cost an 'arm and a leg', so why can't time be measured in 'ears'. Dag, thanks for raising a smile here on an otherwise boring day. Malcolm
RE: Saturday Survey
You might do some tests: Shoot the same scene at different apertures using a sturdy tripod. Use slide film to be able to compare the shots in, let's say, 1.8m 1.2m (50 times enlargement) or even 100 times. Pick scenery with lots of detail. You can cut the slides in halves and mount two comparable shots in one frame and then view the slides from a distance using binoculars. That's how I tested the Pentax SMC-FA 28-80/3,5-4,7 against the Tokina ATX Pro II 2.6-2.8/28-70mm. The latter was clearly sharper in this enlargement, which BTW is confirmed by tests made by Photodo. In small enlergements it's not posible to clearly see the difference. (That's how they get away with selling poor lenses, I guess - it's difficult to tell the difference from a 4x6" print of a summer holliday shot! What matters to me, are shots made under difficult circumstances, where I have to push the limits of what is actually possible. That's when a good lens makes the difference - weather I get a usable photograph or not! Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Markus Maurer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 25. april 2004 11:15 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: RE: Saturday Survey Hi Jens do you happen to have used the Tokina AF 28-70mm SD 3.5-4.5 too and can comment on it. I got it with a used SFX wonder, whether I should start using it instead of the Pentax SMC F 35-125 3.5-4.5. I did not quiet understand which F 70-210mm zoom you liked/disliked, was there a typo in your posting? -Original Message- From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>2. Pentax SMC-F 70-210/4-5,6 (A poor lens compared to the earlier F version) >>Pentax SMC F 4-5.6/70-210mm, which is a very good lens. Found it used like >>new for 280$.
Re: Hardisk MTBF IDE versus SCSI
the new ones still draw a lot of power, about twice as much as a solid state CF card during normal use. peak writing current is considerably higher and sends the camera power management scheme into low power warning on a fresh set of batteries and a burst of shots. if you leave the camera on and don't take any pictures for a minute or so, the batteries recover. turning off the camera for a while and the same thing happens. i started yesterday's photo trip with batteries that read full when turned on but would drop to half power during a write. i shot just over 200 RAW images, using flash for about 1/4 of the shots, and at the end, the camera still read full when turned on for a while without shooting. first shot or two and it would read half again for a minute or so. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Markus Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 1:48 AM Subject: RE: Hardisk MTBF IDE versus SCSI > Is anybody using micro drives with there digis here, I heard the first model > draw a lot (too much)of power. > Are the newer Gigabyte versions any better and do you think they will stay > on the market > as flash cards are getting cheaper and bigger all the times and possible > read/write cycles should also increase?
Re: Harddisk MTBF IDE versus SCSI
my case doesn't have as nice a setup. still, i think only one of my drive failures was because of overheating. Herb - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 10:02 PM Subject: Re: Harddisk MTBF IDE versus SCSI > When I designed the machine I set up the cooling system to ensure that all air > entering the system was forced across the drives as it's first point of entry. > I have one fan on the air intake and three exhaust so if any one (or even two) > fans fail there will still be adequate airflow for the system. The system > houses 6 drives and has been running constantly since 1997 (hence the limited > DMI support).
RE: Saturday Survey
Yes, I had this Tokina zoom once - I sold it with an ME-Super. I's not bad, but kind of average I believe. It got very nice review when it was introduced long ago, though. I guess it doesn't quite compare to the PRO II, though. About the Pentax 70-210mm. The FA (Power Zoom - made for PZ-1) is not so good. The F (made for the SFX series) is excellent IMO. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Markus Maurer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 25. april 2004 11:15 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: RE: Saturday Survey Hi Jens do you happen to have used the Tokina AF 28-70mm SD 3.5-4.5 too and can comment on it. I got it with a used SFX wonder, whether I should start using it instead of the Pentax SMC F 35-125 3.5-4.5. I did not quiet understand which F 70-210mm zoom you liked/disliked, was there a typo in your posting? -Original Message- From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>2. Pentax SMC-F 70-210/4-5,6 (A poor lens compared to the earlier F version) >>Pentax SMC F 4-5.6/70-210mm, which is a very good lens. Found it used like >>new for 280$.
Re: Way OT re: Moire
So it seems. Just my dirty mind. John On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 10:20:28 -0400, Peter J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It sounds much more "interesting" in English than it is... Anders Hultman wrote: John Forbes: What does "strumpbyxor"? Sounds interesting. Stretch tights; panty hose. She has two pairs on at the same time. anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/ med dagens bild och allt! -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: PAW: London Eye
Quite right. John On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 23:54:58 +0100, Nick Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just a correction - It was the GLC. The GLA is the current reincarnation also led by Ken Livingstone, but with far less power. BTW - I agree with your opinion. Nick. -Original Message- From: "John Forbes"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 24/04/04 11:12:25 Note to Non-Brits. County Hall was the seat of the GLA, the local government in London. Thatcher didn't like the people in power in the GLA, so she just abolished it. That one destructive act was the primary reason why London is such a mess today (IMHO)! John -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: where is the crossing line ?
To me that line is nonexistent. Photos have been altered in the dark room from the beginning. Also, any decision you make before or during the exposure is a manipulation, as I have illustrated in this folder of unmanipulated photos: http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder.tcl?folder_id=366144 So photos have never been proof. They have only been an illustration of what a person has claimed to be the truth. If the person lies, so does the photo. Maybe you could say that the lines goes in how I use the photo. If I say that is tells the truth, it should of course do so, according to my subjective opinion. DagT På 24. apr. 2004 kl. 07.36 skrev Markus Maurer: Hi Cotty that's an interesting point for me: Where is the crossing line for manipulating photos? And has there to be one? Times where a photo was a proof are long gone. I feel already like cheating a bit if I change anything on a photo, even cropping. I don't know why actually. I will answer more on your comments later Markus
Re: CD-R lifetimes disputed
Well, I don't understand 1/2 of what you guys have been talking about, but it sure makes me paranoid about archiving photos. Marnie aka Doe
Re: Saturday Survey
På 25. apr. 2004 kl. 01.19 skrev Mark Roberts: OK, here's a new question: What camera or lens have you bought that you regretted purchasing? I'll go first because my answer will startle you at first: Pentax A20/2.8 (Now the other shoe drops). because now that I have an ist-D I wish I'd bought the autofocus version, the FA20/2.8 instead. Well, I bought mine two ears ago, and yes, I now want the AF version :-) But it is still a great lens, and I´ve still got the LX (and ME Super), but most important I´ve got some picture I am satisfied with the lens. I think my priority will be the 14mm, as I miss the field of view. I do regret buying any zoom (anybody want an A 24-50 and A70-210?) as I never use them. DagT
RE: Saturday Survey
Hi Jens do you happen to have used the Tokina AF 28-70mm SD 3.5-4.5 too and can comment on it. I got it with a used SFX wonder, whether I should start using it instead of the Pentax SMC F 35-125 3.5-4.5. I did not quiet understand which F 70-210mm zoom you liked/disliked, was there a typo in your posting? -Original Message- From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>2. Pentax SMC-F 70-210/4-5,6 (A poor lens compared to the earlier F version) >>Pentax SMC F 4-5.6/70-210mm, which is a very good lens. Found it used like >>new for 280$.
RE: PAW
Your welcome Bruce and I start wondering, which pictures you felt right about :-) Markus >>Just wanted to say thanks for all the comments on this PAW. It was >>one where I wasn't quite sure how I felt about it.
RE: "The White Elf"
Hi Markus You are rigt about the focusing. You need a manual or an internal focusing lens. I use it mostly on a 135mm MF lens. And I can use it on my SONY F717 (58mm filter thread) as well. Oh, you can get nice shots! The quality and state of the mirror are setting limits, of cource - it has to be straight and without scratches or dirt. Anyway, you will get nice shots, not otherwise obtainable. So it's really difficult to compare. It's brilliant for candid shots. One problem is, that when you are photgraphing in crowded places, people in front of the lens tends to wait to pass you by, because they believe you ar photographing in different direction. If you don't notice them, you'll have to appologize all the time. What do you think of my concert shots from The White Elf? All the best Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Markus Maurer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 25. april 2004 09:36 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: RE: "The White Elf" Hi Jens a quick glance at your website showed me, that you experimented with a Right Angle Scope. I also got one from a flee market for nearly nothing but have not used it yet. It seems to be very hard to focus with it, because it moves with the lens, I think you understand what I mean. Did you take some worthy shots with it? I saw, that below 70mm I get vignetting with it. But, I could photograph myself with it, I will try it one day. I liked the b/w photo of your son, well done (in both meanings) ;-) Markus http://gallery59991.fotopic.net/c162875.html
RE:Saturday Survey
Me too - about the FA 100-300mm. It's really no good - very soft! Jens Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Raimo K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 25. april 2004 08:43 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Saturday Survey I´ll second the part describing the Pentax FA 100-300. Between 100 mm and 200 mm it was quite good but after that needed much stopping down. The Sigma 70-300 APO that replaced it is much better. All the best! Raimo K Personal photography homepage at: http:\\www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho - Original Message - From: "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 7:53 AM Subject: Re: Saturday Survey > > I often used to wonder if I should have bought an LX, but in all > honesty the MX probably served me just as well, and I doubt if > I'd have got almost three decades of service out of an LX with > only two visits to the repair shop. > > I don't really regret any purchases. The closest to regret would > be the FA 100-300. That's also one of the very few lenses that I > have sold (the others being the Tamron 300/2.8 that was replaced > by the Pentax A*, and the M 80-200/4 that went in a 3-way trade > to get me the FA 80-320 I wanted to try using with the *ist-D). > > I don't suppose the 100-300 was really any worse than a couple of > the less favoured Pentax lenses I still have (M 28/2.8, M 40-80). > (Mind you, I'd consider parting with those, too - I haven't used > either of them in years). But once I got the 80-200/2.8 I found > I never used the 100-300, even though it was much lighter to carry. > The same doesn't seem to be true of the 80-320, although I think > I should wait a little longer before drawing definite conclusions. >
Re: PAW
Just wanted to say thanks for all the comments on this PAW. It was one where I wasn't quite sure how I felt about it. Seems that it was reasonably well liked by most. That is what I like about the PAW, it helps validate ideas and directions as we attempt to learn. Bruce Sunday, April 25, 2004, 12:35:46 AM, you wrote: MM> Hi Bruce MM> I agree, a very beautiful picture. MM> Maybe I would have tried to capture everything of the green leaves at the MM> right top and bottom, MM> but otherwise the picture and the colors are very nice. MM> Markus >>>Love the creamy bokeh, lovely detail (well focused, and I don't know how >>>much sharper you'd have gotten with a tripod - that looks pretty good to >>>me!), great comp, beautiful colours. >>Your thoughts and comments are appreciated. >>http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/imgp7114.htm >>Bruce
RE: Saturday Survey
1. Pentax SMC-FA 28-80/3,5-4,7 (Amazingly good, concidering the pricetag, weight and powerzoom. It just isn't pro-quality). 2. Pentax SMC-F 70-210/4-5,6 (A poor lens compared to the earlier F version) I bought them with my PZ-1 in 1992 and sold both of them 4 or 5 years ago. I replaced them with: Tokina ATX PRO II 2.6-2.8/28-70mm (got a bargain - new for 700$ - list price 1200$). It is almost as sharp as the original FA 2.8/28-70mm, which at the time cost 2800$ in Denmark. Pentax SMC F 4-5.6/70-210mm, which is a very good lens. Found it used like new for 280$. The Tokina 28-70mm is - together with my SMC A 2.8/20mm and my M*4/300mm - my most used lenses. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 25. april 2004 01:19 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Saturday Survey OK, here's a new question: What camera or lens have you bought that you regretted purchasing? I'll go first because my answer will startle you at first: Pentax A20/2.8 (Now the other shoe drops). because now that I have an ist-D I wish I'd bought the autofocus version, the FA20/2.8 instead. They're the same lens optically, but the "A" version is much more solidly built (and is actually more expensive). I never felt missed autofocus on my film cameras but since this lens has the angle of view of a 30mm when used on the DSLR, I'm finding myself wishing for AF sometimes. It's still a fabulous lens, though ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: London PDML Meeting Reminder - This Saturday - Update please
Hi, Saturday, April 24, 2004, 10:57:34 PM, Rob wrote: > Salt and pepper on that hat sir? ...and a bit of mayo... >> >> > Just waiting to see Button put in a decent time around Imola... >> >> see you in about 3 years then. >> -- Cheers, Bob
LXs was: Saturday Survey
John Francis wrote: > I often used to wonder if I should have bought an LX, but in > all honesty the MX probably served me just as well, and I > doubt if I'd have got almost three decades of service out of > an LX with only two visits to the repair shop. One of my MXs will be going for the first time for servicing in 25 years. That's just fantastic, which ever way you look at it, great reliability. I had instant trouble with my first LX and it has been back for repairs three or four times. Yet I think it is a super camera. I suppose you either love them or hate them. Malcolm
RE: converting color photos for black and white
I like that photo for it's "strangeness" and the composition too. I could imagine it would not have the same effect in color. How does the original look, do you have a link for it too? thanks Markus > >The B/W photo at the top of this page - >http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/token.htm - was originally shot on >Fuji Reala. > > >
RE: Hardisk MTBF IDE versus SCSI
Hi John thanks for that overview. Have you ever dropped such a micro drive without damaging and would you say that they are reliable? just wondering happy Sunday Markus -- >>I've got a couple of 1GB Hitachi MicroDrives I use in my *ist-D. >>Sure, they draw more power than a compact flash card. But a single >>set of 1800 mAh rechargeables lasted for over 300 L*** JPEGs
