Re:hello!
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Re:
hello! http://www.jesusgarciaartglass.com/friends.php?jsyahooID=3xr2 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: QC times 2 for the takumars of the sixties
Like so many here have mentioned, while stationed overseas in the 60's I bought a Minolta SRT-101 Kit from somewhere in Asia and those lenses also had the JCII stickers on them. Jerry 2010/10/20 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: Gold? Silver? I remember the stickers, but don't remember if they were gold or silver or either/both. I do remember someone telling me some quasi-governmental agency inspected every lens exported from Japan to insure it met quality standards. Gold. I still have lots of them. from photonotes.com: Gold oval-shaped stickers reading PASSED and JCII indicate that the camera has passed quality control inspections by the JCII (Japan Camera Industry Institute). This practice of applying the JCII stickers seems to have stopped at some point in the late 1980s. Gold stickers merely reading PASSED are probably just slapped on by the manufacturer to make you feel good since they do not indicate inspection by any reputable third party. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film and cameras
Fear not, Boris. Even native born speakers here are known to butcher the language. I think you do very well. Jerry Subject: Re: Film and cameras Message-ID: 4cbeb1c5.7050...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Of course not. I know that my English is easily recognized as that of a foreign man and I welcome any correction as far as I can understand it, adopt it and use it. I even wrote specific request for corrections on the front page of my blog, but likely because my blog is not read by too many people or too often, I am yet to receive a suggestion. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Subject: Re: Pentas M 135/3.5 vs. Takumar 135/2.5 vs Takumar M42 135/3.5
OK, I have an SMC Takumar 3.5 (M42) that I picked up pretty cheap that I use on my K20D. Have not used it much but early results seem good. Any comments on this lens? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Tires On
and it was a GOOD thing too. One of the tires was worn to the belt and the belt had slipped. Would not have wanted to be half way to Hannigan Meadow and have that puppy crap out. Actually, both were in poor shape. Lucky us! Even better, the guy didn't even charge me for it. He didn't say why, just that I didn't owe him anything. Lucky me! xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Tires On
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Re: Tires On
Don't I wish, but he did mount, balance, and install them for no charge. From: eckinator eckina...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Tires On Message-ID: aanlktikmy=cpsapgn7pzbbeezhvautg_gu3kgfpev...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 huh? you mean you got free tires? good for you, son =) 2010/10/8 Jerry in Arizona glewis4...@yahoo.com: and it was a GOOD thing too.? One of the tires was worn to the belt and the belt had slipped.? Would not have wanted to be half way to Hannigan Meadow and have that puppy crap out.? Actually, both were in poor shape.? Lucky us!? Even better, the guy didn't even charge me for it.? He didn't say why, just that I didn't owe him anything.? Lucky me! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tires On
I bought them on Tire Rack and shipped to an independent installer so those services were not included in the price of the tires. Jerry From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Tires On Message-ID: aanlkti=xvb2am8ufrql1pktay2w9wgo01ppqd=jub...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Jerry in Arizona glewis4...@yahoo.com wrote: Don't I wish, but he did mount, balance, and install them for no charge. Round here they do that as well, but for some reason hit you for $2.00 a valve stem. Must be the profit margin Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It ain't like it used to be.
A, Lucas, the Prince of Darkness I still like my RED '87 Alfa Romeo Quadrafoglio http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/Bisbee%20Blues%20Fest%202010/_ORI8154A1.jpg Jerry From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: It ain't like it used to be. Message-ID: 4cabde0d.1030...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 10/5/2010 7:01 PM, John Francis wrote: On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 01:49:18PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: On Oct 5, 2010, at 1:43 PM, John Sessoms wrote: Well ... not a real car. I'd get my MG running again, but that's not really for transportation. I need to get my MGBGT back on the road too. And being a BGT, it actually makes pretty decent transportation. That's a matter of opinion ... I grew up with MGBs. They were perhaps a little better than the Ford Escort beloved by the boy racers of the next generation, but only a little better. Still, at least they were better than the Triumph Spitfire or MG Midget. In those days I drove a Triumph Vitesse convertible; lighter than an MGB, with a two-litre straight 6 engine (the MGB GT had an 1800cc 4-banger). A friend of mine had an MGC. Now *that* was a nice bit of machinery. Too bad it didn't have nice electrics to go with it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO; The Bench at the Winery
Taken at the vineyard of Callaghan Winery in Sonoita, AZ. Pentax K20D, Pentax SMC DA 1:3.5-5.6 18-55mm w/2X telextender. The plaque recognizes the area as a Backyard Habitat. Jerry http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/_ORI8190A1_peso.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO; Rafters, Callaghan Winery
Taken in the tasting room of the Callaghan Winery in the Arizona grape growing region of Sonoita. Pentax K20D, SMC Pentax-DA 1:3.5-5.6 18-55mm w/ 2X telextender. Converted to B/W in Photoshop CS5. Jerry http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/Bisbee%20Blues%20Fest%202010/PESO_Rafters_8220.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO; Bisbee Blues Fest 2010
This past weekend we travelled down to Bisbee, AZ for their annual blues festival, and a great time was had by all! An image rich environment. Pentax K20D, Pentax SMC Pentax-A, f1:4.7-5.6, 80-200mm. Comments and critiques welcomed. Jerry http://s896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/Bisbee%20Blues%20Fest%202010/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Monitor Calibration System
Any one have any experience with the Pantone Huey Pro MEU113 system for monitor calibration? Jerry -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Seed Head
Pentax K20D w/ Pentax SMC DA 1:3.5-5.6, 18-55mm AL and 2X telextender, on P setting Found these plants outside our BB in Bisbee, AZ and they looked like they were glowing in the morning light. Comments and critiques invited. Jerry http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/Pentax/SeedHead.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Civil Rights Photographer Unmasked as Informer
Nope, that honor went to Bush in the last few months before Obama was sworn in. In any case, Obama hasn't tried to please the corporations. He bailed out banks (uber-capitalists until they need government money, then they become welfare bums). He bailed out car companies. Yeah, he's been real tough on corporate America. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Civil Rights Photographer Unmasked as Informer
J. Edgar Hoover kept secret dossiers on almost everyone with a public face, and many who didn't. He hated MLK and anything to do with the civil rights movement. The revelation that the MLK photographer was an FBI informant only goes to show the efforts he made to try and destroy the image of MLK. I don't think he succeeded. We should not hide from history. Jerry Subject: Re: OT: Civil Rights Photographer Unmasked as Informer Message-ID: aanlktimcxoqodvjoznjqdrl3rbvs5jwjdraqj=xpt...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 2010/9/15 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com: I agree. ?I don't understand why the newspaper insisted on investigating and reporting on this either. ?He was a good photographer, and took some great images of the civil rights movement. ?I am confident nothing he told the FBI harmed Martin Luther King or the movement. ?Why drag it up now? I guess maybe because of the fact that being an informer is at least questionable. Also it may be something to do with the history of how the FBI tried to undermine the civil rights movement. Why not drag it up now? Would any other time be better? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Morning Jolt
I like a french press, but even better is an espresso with an old school range top italian espresso maker. Jerry From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Morning Jolt Message-ID: aanlkti=o58lccbznnoiyrtmhvgsy-9tzecxykxqxu...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 9:53 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: ?On 9/11/2010 7:17 AM, frank theriault wrote: My favourite way to start a weekend morning. Okay, my second favourite. ;-) http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/09/morning-jolt.html Fresh-ground dark roast coffee from a French press. ?Mm! cheers, frank Sometimes coffee is better than sex. Bean there, done that. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: AFLAC!
Common geese, Encanto Park, Phoenix, AZ. K20D, Sigma 70-300mm 1:4-5.6 DL http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/AFLAC_2.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-r is official
Just wondering . . . do new cameras make us better photographers? Or are we just hardware junkies? Jerry -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi-OT: Advice for a beginner?
Maybe I'm just an old poop, but he would never get $240 out of me, and I guess alot of other parents today. Jerry Subject: Re: Semi-OT: Advice for a beginner? Message-ID: 4c89373c.8040...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi Paul, I think you've got a pretty good handle on the photography I'm thinking about here. And, considering the friend I spoke to was talking about seven different teams, that $240 per team (or thereabout) will add up to a nice gear purchase for future use. Also, it just occurred to me that I can call my sister to find out what she's been paying for pictures of her school-aged kids, and see if I can low-ball that a smidgen, given my lack of experience or sizable portfolio. Thanks for your input. I figure between all I've gotten here, I'll be able to develop some clue as to a way forward on this and future shoots. Best, -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Kids in a fountain
There is an old saying, one person screws up and we all loose recess. i.e. it only takes one paedophyle to ruin it for everyone. Subject: Re: PESO - Kids in a fountain Message-ID: aanlktinosu0s+t-v0xzzcqseblbdm31orcx7mvm5a...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 27 August 2010 22:38, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: That's a terrific photo! As an aside, I was taking photos at a similar type of fountain we have here in Toronto (Dundas Square, FWIW) and someone came up to me and asked if I'd asked permission of the parents of the kids. I nicely informed her that I didn't need to do that, and in any event I was not up to no good. ?She started to argue with me so I walked away. ?Wasn't worth the hassle. ?The place is usually crawling with security guards and I didn't want to have to deal with one of those wallies. But, your photo's a real gem. cheers, frank I was going to mention to Dave that it was a good job he didn't try taking this photo in the UK. He'd probably be writing his posts from a warm cell :-) Dave, I was approached by a security guy when photographing at the Christian Science fountain in Boston while kids were playing in the are. He said police could be involved if I was photographing the kids. It's ridiculous. --M. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rodeo Album
Not much of a crowd, most of the action happened on Saturday but I couldn't get there till Sunday. Yes, have decided if I go back next year I will try and get out of the chair and scoot myself up the grandsstands and bring my monopod. I was lucky on that one, the roper went far to the left and gave me a much better angle. There was a 3 pipe barrier at about my shoulder height since I can't stand to shoot over it. Sometimes better to be lucky than good. Thanks for all the good advice. -- Message: 11 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 09:52:00 -0400 From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Rodeo Album Message-ID: aanlktiktyiloiefcgx_tjnwxbk8ld7ne36h5waq9f...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't look like much of a crowd at that point. Probably using the C bulls.:-) Jerry i have only shot a few events like this, but found sitting up a little higher and shooting down helped with the back ground. The first one you showed us is the best of the bunch IMO. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rodeo Album
I was using my K20D with a Sigma 70-300mm, 1:4-5.6 DL, usually at 200mm Jerry From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Rodeo Album Message-ID: aanlkti=ricwu5ydzm2zs9zxwxuvepkx3fxpk+m_y1...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 What were you using for lenses here BTW Dave On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Jerry in Arizona glewis4...@yahoo.com wrote: Not much of a crowd, most of the action happened on Saturday but I couldn't get there till Sunday. Yes, have decided if I go back next year I will try and get out of the chair and scoot myself up the grandsstands and bring my monopod.? I was lucky on that one, the roper went far to the left and gave me a much better angle. There was a 3 pipe barrier at about my shoulder height since I can't stand to shoot over it. Sometimes better to be lucky than good. Thanks for all the good advice. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which pentax camera is this?
I remember back in the old days customs made you file off the Asahi name if you bought your camera overseas as Honeywell had the rights to the Spotmatic name in the US. Subject: Re: Which pentax camera is this? Message-ID: 4c743754.70...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Looks like an H1 (Honneywell), or S1 (Asahi), with the metering attachment. On 8/23/2010 2:27 PM, Sam L wrote: Hi all, Came across an add for this for sale. Can anyone help me identify which camera it is? It's a pretty bad photo. http://samtheeagle.smugmug.com/Other/For-Sale/Red-small-pair-with-text/OldPentax/979910426_gYBPW-L.jpg g Thanks! --- Sam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Rodeo Pictures
I have a couple of questions for the group regarding the images I took at the Payson, AZ rodeo yesterday. 1. There a quite a few images I want to share and get your comments. Can I just go to Photobucket and provide a link to a folder rather than just to a single image? 2. When I got home and downloaded my images the first 100 or so were fine, but suddenly all the images were shown as JPG but nothing could open them. Windows Photo Viewer said it could not open them, same for CS5, not even in the camera. Suddenly on the last image I took in the day the image came came back and was available normally. Wondering what happened. Bad SD card? Dunno. Camera record failure? Dunno. My thought was that I overshot the cameras ability to record. I was shooting repeatedly during several events. I lost about 200 shots! Test shots off the patio today all seem normal. Any ideas? Jerry in Phoenix -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rodeo Pictures
It was an 8Gig card and was not shown as full either in camera or when downloading. Did not reformat until all was downloaded to the computer and returned to the camera to reformat. Will check on the Sandisk recovery program. Thanks a bunch Dave. David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote 2.? When I got home and downloaded my images the first 100 or so were fine, but suddenly all the images were shown as JPG but nothing could open them.? Windows Photo Viewer said it could not open them, same for CS5, not even in the camera. Suddenly on the last image I took in the day the image came came back and was available normally.? Wondering what happened.? Bad SD card?? Dunno.? Camera record failure?? Dunno.? My thought was that I overshot the cameras ability to record.? I was shooting repeatedly during several events.? I lost about 200 shots!? Test shots off the patio today all seem normal.? Any ideas? Jerry in Phoenix Is there still room on the card,?? if so some of the files could have been corrupted. I use Sandisk's recover program, not sure if its still free, but i think so. Try that. Do you format your card after download in the camera. That can have some bearing. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Rodeo Album
Here is a small selection of my rodeo images. There are a couple of duplicates cuz I was not able to decide for myself. Your comments and recommendations welcomed . . . maybe. http://s896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/GESO%20Payson%20Rodeo%202010/ Jerry in Phoenix -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Rodeo Folder
You're right Bob, but as they always say . . . location, location, location. Not alot of places one can wander around, even less in my wheelchair. I agree, the Calf Roper is the best by far. Bob Sullivan wrote: Jerry, I think you were right with the Calf Roper. It's the best of the series IMHO. It has a good, close-up center of interest. Most of the others have lots going on in the background. And the pop-ups on the photobucket site are like flies. I'm constantly swatting at them. Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rodeo Folder
I was using a Sigma 70-300mm @ 200mm. There just always seemed to be something behind the subject. Sigh . . . Subject: Re: Rodeo Folder Message-ID: aanlkti=rb=eb4xrkshdzjzhftzpayqmtdqrcjqqg8...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Jerry, Sometimes a 135mm lens can help isolate those distant subjects. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Jerry in Arizona glewis4...@yahoo.com wrote: You're right Bob, but as they always say . . . location, location, location. Not alot of places one can wander around, even less in my wheelchair.? I agree, the Calf Roper is the best by far. Bob Sullivan wrote: Jerry, I think you were right with the Calf Roper. It's the best of the series IMHO. It has a good, close-up center of interest. Most of the others have lots going on in the background. And the pop-ups on the photobucket site are like flies. I'm constantly swatting at them. Regards,? Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Calf Roper
Taken today (sunday) at the annual Payson, AZ rodeo. K20D with Sigma 70-300mm @ 200mm. The smear in the lower left is what is left of a 3 pipe barrier I had to shoot around please excuse it. Shooting from a wheelchair I get tired of photographing navels and butts. http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/CalfRoper_7312A_PESO.jpg Jerry. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: A Gaggle of Geese
I drove around a bit in the cooler 105F air today and visited a local park with some water and water birds. I had my K20D fitted with an M42 SMC Takumar 135mm. I found these geese (I think) cruising in a quiet corner of the pool. Jerry in Phoenix http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/AGaggleofGeese_7101a_PESO.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K-x for sale
I came across this offer in the local Craigslist. If you are looking for an inexpensive K-x this might be a way. I have no knowledge of the seller or the item, just passing on information. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/pho/1876651219.html Jerry -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-x for sale
I wasn't interested in the camera but thought someone else would be. Don't know if the seller is honest or not but many have pointed out scams like this so I would leave it alone. From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K-x for sale Message-ID: 4c680fb7.5020...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Based on price, he's probably selling one of these; http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/film_K/KX.html A fine camera but not digital. On 8/17/2010 2:59 PM, Jerry in Arizona wrote: I came across this offer in the local Craigslist. If you are looking for an inexpensive K-x this might be a way. I have no knowledge of the seller or the item, just passing on information. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/pho/1876651219.html Jerry -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Anybody in the northern hemisphere missing winter?
To be honest . . . YES! Tired of 115f+ Phoenix and the Valley of the sun are gorgeous in fall, winter and spring. Summer sucks! Subject: PESO -- Tuxis Island and West Wharf Boat Basin Message-ID: 4c6576d3.8080...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Anybody in the northern hemisphere missing winter? Didn't think so. However I was looking through old files looking for something and found this. If it looks cold it's because it was. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20tuxisislandandeastwharfboat.html Equipment: Pentax *ist-D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Caption Contest!
Really like thios pic, but HATE that light pole. I would Photoshop it out! Subject: Re: Caption Contest! Message-ID: 5374f7ec-1c6f-4995-8f25-924b747e7...@visi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Aug 12, 2010, at 16:36, Rick Womer wrote: We came across this interesting juxtaposition in Warren, New Hampshire (population 873): http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1142size=lg Captions? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Using the M42 Adapter?
First I want to thank all the members for their very helpful discussion and advice. What a great group. Well today I managed to get the Non-Pentax adapter out of the sacrificial PZ-70 without damaging the camera, especially to Derby Chang who provided the following link. http://www.funadium.com/m42tok.php#umount I now have two adapters, including a Pentax brand adapter. Cuz I am basically a coward I decided to remove the spring lock on both adapters. Tried them both on the PZ-70 and they went on and came off with no problems. I have an M42 Super Takumar 135mm f3.5 lens that I was eager to try out on my K20D. First I tried to install the off brand adapter directly to the lens but then it would not attach to the PZ-70 mount. Need to put the adapter in the camera first. Then used the pentax adapter and the lens attached as it should. Went out on the patio and did some test shots of sets of five (+/- .5) dial set to Av, f8. Downloaded shots to the puter and found that I needed a -.5 correction but I was truly amazed at the quality of the image. I am now convinced I am on the right track. Given that the adapters are relatively cheap I will get i per lens, remove the spring and using a automotive thread locker kinda permanantly attach the adapter to the lens. Will be looking for a 300-400mm lens to go after those migratory birds we will be expecting here in a couple of months. Thanks again to all Jerry To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Using the M42 Adapter? Message-ID: aanlktinw70nv_nzz259d4ju2tamthm0=cryw87rwg...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Paul Ewins paulew...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Pentax has the manual on-line as a PDF file: http://www.pentaximaging.com/files/manual/Mount_Adapter_K.pdf It says there's spring you have to push in with the tip of a ball point pen, then you just turn it counter-clockwise until it stops it will come out. When it works normally, that is what happens. It should just twist and click into place and then when you are done you use the special tool which disengages the spring and allows you to twist it out again. Except when it goes wrong and you can't disengage the spring and the adapter is then jammed solid. I have heard of a few other people (apart from myself and Jerry) that this has happened to and it is always a third-party adapter that goes wrong. Paul And that's one reason why I use my M42 glass on my Minolta kit nearly-exclusively these days. Infinity focus can be an issue, but the adapters are WAY less hassle and much cheaper. Screw the adapter on and use them like any other bayonet lens (and at $8 each, you can afford 1 per lens). Canon and 4/3rds adapters work the same. The Pentax style adapters guarantee infinity focus with Pentax lenses (but may have issues with others, especially Fujinon's) but the adapters are way more hassle to use. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Five Swans and Thousands of Cormorants
Can't wait for all those migratory birds to come down and winter here in the Valley of the Sun! Jerry From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Five Swans and Thousands of Cormorants Message-ID: aanlktimrp5wvy8achdm_-nf+snun2y9eiumvsp0dz...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I like the composition. Looks like they are getting ready to fly out and see Bruce and Jack.;-) Dave On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 7:44 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, maybe not thousands, but that almost solid line just below the trees is (believe it or not) a line of cormorants skimming across the water: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/five-swans-and-thousands-of-cormorants.html l I've seen them skimming like that in the dozens, maybe even up to 50 or so, but never like that. ?Any idea what they're up to when they do that? ?It looks like they're just doing it for the fun of it! Not a great photo, I know. ?I'm showing it more for the content (ie: all them damn cormorants!) than the artistic value... Hope you like. ?Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Using the M42 Adapter?
OK, this may sound stupid but I hope to get some advice on using the PENTAX M42-PK adapter. I recently bought a non OEM adapter and it is now permanently stuck in an old K mount camera (PZ-70). Luckily I tested it first. I don't want to repeat that on my K20D. I guess the most important part is getting it out. All advice and help greatfully requested. Jerry -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax M42 adapter?
Can anyone tell me where genuine Pentax M42 to PK adapters are available? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax M42 adapter
I thught I had searced ebay pretty thoroughly with no luck, but searching again did find an authentic Pentax M42-PK adapter for $29.50 w/shipping. Tried an off brand on an older K mount camera and it is jammed, so felt I had to go with the original Pentax adapter. Tks to all. Look forward to using one of the M42 Takumars I recently bought on ebay. Jerry From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax M42 adapter? Message-ID: 4c5a0326.7070...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Pentax USA seems to make them available from time to time, but mostly you have to pick them up used. ebay is where I got my second one. (I bought the first when I got my MX in 1976). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: 1st Extension Tube Pic
Got new extension tubes for the K20D and needed to try them out. Never used them before. Partner picked a bouquet last night so I took a display out on the patio to try out the tube. The sky gods were again cooperative and the high clouds made the sky a giant light box and no shadows. Some were good, some not so good as I fumbled around but I do like this one. I may even find out what flower it is. http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/PurpleFlower_5904A2_PESO.jpg K20D, #1 extension tube, f1.9 Auto Chinon @ f5.6 Comments and recommendations welcome. Jerry in Phoenix -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: 1st Extension Tube Pic
Fully manual, with preset. I had the camera set on aperture priority, the lens on 5.6, pressed the green button and focused using the in and out method. Handheld. ISO 400 From: J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO: 1st Extension Tube Pic Message-ID: ab97155f1baa4a8796bbca06b2ba3...@jcomainmachine Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 do your ext tube(s) have active lens stop down or is the lens fully manual with regard to stopping it down before making the exposure? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Monsoon Sky Redux
A few days I submitted a pic of an Arizona monsoon sky and got some nice comments, but it was suggested that showing some ground would improve the image. Well the sky gods cooperated again this evening and I took a few with a wider lens and included some ground clutter. The building on the lower left is the same one as in the previous pic. Thus I submit this humble effort for your review and consideration. http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/MonsoonSky3_PESO_I5811.jpg Jerry in Arizona -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Phoenix Monsoon Sky
Every year about this time we get a rainy season in the desert, locally referred to as the Monsoon Season. This shot was taken from my balcony looking south from central Phoenix. Dramatic clouds and alot of rain in parts of town. Sadly, not here. K20D, SMC Pentax-A 80-200mm, Taken at 80mm late afternoon, sunset to the right. http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/Transfer/MonsoonSky2_5769c.jpg Jerry in Phoenix -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Indiana Colt
Shot this when I was a student at Indiana University. Was reviewing some old photos/scans and it seemed it had some possibilities. Comments welcome. http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/IndianaColt_113_PESO.jpg Jerry in Phoenix -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: About awkward copyright releases
What they are saying is that they don't want you making money at their expense, without them getting a part of it. It's called business. From: William Robb war...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: About awkward copyright releases Message-ID: 331ddb4347e34d929b59ac73734ba...@desktop1 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original All they are saying is they don't really want people to take pictures for them. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: About awkward copyright releases
They have to cover all those contingencies. From what I read in return for allowing you to take pictures they retain certain rights to what you can do with them and I think they are right. This is not public forum stuff. -- From: Jerry in Arizona Subject: Re: About awkward copyright releases What they are saying is that they don't want you making money at their expense, without them getting a part of it. It's called business. I like to think that business involves good for each party, not just for one party. This isn't business, it's usury. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Takumar vs Super Takumar ??
I am thinking of acquiring some older M42 prime lenses to use on my K20D. I seem to remember that the Super Takumars were considered a step back in quality and optics from the Takumars. Can anyone confirm or deny this? Have not decided which lengths to focus on, prob just on what is available and what I can afford. Anything else I should watch for, like coatings? Jerry -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Spanish team has done it!
For some years I have been an on again off again soccer fan while playing and coaching American football. But after watching this WC series I am now coninced that Soccer (futball) is a vastly superior GAME to American football. Congratulations to the Spanish team and all its supporters! Jerry From: Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Spanish team has done it! Message-ID: 811182.46164...@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Thanks Boris and Ecke, I never though I was going to see this happen... Regards, Jaume -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Refconverter M
My Refconverter M works perfectly on my K20. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan Sent: 08 July 2010 21:38 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Refconverter M Chris, I dug out the Refconverter M today and put it on the K-7. It worked completely. The entire viewfinder was visible, complete with the information fields at the bottom. This is a plus since the Refconverter A has the bigger field of view. The M's is big enough! and at 2X you get magnification! Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: OOPS, Hot Tub Floaters
Sorry, forgot to use the right link. http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/Pentax/HotTubFloaters_4697A1.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Painted Desert Black Bird
Took this while touring the Painted Desert a couple of years ago. Came across it reviewing old files and remembered the issue here if a black bird was a crow or whatever. Don't remember which camera I was using at the time. http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/Crow_1043b.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Painted Desert Black Bird
Thanks for the clarification Ann, I named it Crow cuz I just didn't know what else to call it. I believe it was take at the rest area at Crystal Forest, but certainly not far from Blue Mesa. Maybe one of Sam's offspring. Subject: Re: PESO: Painted Desert Black Bird Message-ID: 4c312921.1070...@nyc.rr.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Jerry in Arizona wrote: Took this while touring the Painted Desert a couple of years ago. Came across it reviewing old files and remembered the issue here if a black bird was a crow or whatever. Don't remember which camera I was using at the time. http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/Crow_1043b.jpg ___ Jerry - that is not a crow you got there that is a raven... raven's are vastly superior birds :-) also, considerably larger. it might even be my friend, Sam... Or his offspring... I'm not sure how long Raven's live, actually... I bet he was begging for treats. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: starting my own posterous
Nyeshista Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 11:10:51 +0200 From: eckinator eckina...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: starting my own posterous Message-ID: aanlktik-gu8-nhypkxm0ojtz9j3ycps1irjypjjst...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 2010/6/28 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: Cool! I'll add you to my bloglist on blogger... Spasibo, gospodin Liberman =) And I'll add another post so it no longer says Yeah, like Fook Yew tew, meawn on your homepage... ROFL Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: starting my own posterous
Nope, no Mr Beagle here. Nyezishta (it is nothing) is a proper response to Spacibo (thank you), po Pycckuu. My tansliteration may be rusty. Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 20:15:35 +0200 From: eckinator eckina...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: starting my own posterous Message-ID: aanlktik1asgz736l7umryv4x1ajsmny730ygkue-o...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 2010/6/29 Jerry in Arizona glewis4...@yahoo.com: Nyeshista Is this Mr Beagle? Sorry but I don't catch that one Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: PESO: Cow Truck
These cows or their predecessors were distributed around Houston in the early '90s. This is a pic I took outside the Glassell School of Art, Pentax PZ3, lens ?, Agfa BW film, Scanned from the negative on Epson scanner. http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/TexasArtCow.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - My first panorama using CS4
I wa interested in this series cuz I was trying my first pano in CS4. I guess I am not knowledgement to understand the comment not the perfect tool for the job. Looks pretty good to me. Anyway, folowing the comment to try Hugin I downloaded it and tried it after using the CS4 to merge two pics together. CS4 did it in a pretty good manner even considering the confusing subject matter. Hugin crapped out and would not even finish the task. Maybe I need more practice. Don't know if the attached pano is visible on here, but it is made of two shots taken just a second or two apart, left part of crowd and banner, right side of same. Comments and advice welcome. http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/SB1070_Panorama1peso.jpg From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - My first panorama Message-ID: aanlktikzi2a8gukx2llxktlrs7bywosnzvoazbykv...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Nice peaceful shot Dave On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Tim ?sleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote: http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/05/panorama-movatnet-1.html Stitched in Elements Photomerge. That's obviously not the prefect tool for the job. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Marching in Phoenix
We had a very large march here in Phoenix yesterday and it passed right next to my condo. Not the best view but limited by wheelchair. BTW, this is NOT a political statement! Pentax K20D, Sigma 70-300, 4-5.6 DL (I think this lens has got to go), +0.5 adjustment http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/MarchinginPhoenix1P.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Desert Aloe, Now Ocotillo
Yes Ann, you are quite correct and it is indeed an Ocotillo, my bad. Should not have listened to the person who advised me. Yes, I had made an executive decision not to clone out that tree trunk and I will wait a bit and hope those buds erupt and make a better image next time. Thanks for your help and advice. Subject: Re: PESO: Desert Aloe Message-ID: 4c011c01.8060...@nyc.rr.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Jerry - flowers and static subjects are fine :-) what Tom said - only some of us are mortolerant than he is of kitty cats I agree with Jack taht the black wedge is distracting, but since you point out that these blooms grow pretty much all around where you are, I'd work on getting a better shot (that is , less busy background) instead of resorting to cloning in photo shop... the blossom is lovely. but isn't that and Ocotillo blossom? ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Desert Aloe
These are colorful and grow pretty much all around here in the Sonoran Desert (Phoenix, AZ). Took this today in the parking lot of the Heard Museum (specializes in southwestern and native American art), Phoenix, AZ. Pentax K20D, SMC Pentax-FA 3.5-4.7, +1 exposure adjustment, circular polarizer. Mildly cropped, adjusted in PS4. I know flowers, and static subjects, are frowned on, but here one is anyway. Jerry in Arizona http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/DesertAloePESO.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Should I?
Yes, absolutely. I looked back at the original and her arm is all there. Guess I was more worried about perspective (I have a thing about keystoning doors and walls) and that caused her to lose her elbow. I also should have resized the image. Thanks again! From: Madame RD romd...@orange.fr To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Should I? Message-ID: 4bf25ca2.1030...@orange.fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Le 18/05/10 06:22, Jerry in Arizona a ?crit : Pentax K20D, DA 3.5-5.6 18-55 18-55mm Taken outside a tattoo/piercing parlor in San Francisco Haight Ashbury district last December. Was she trying to decide on a tattoo or being pierced? Same place I had my ear pierced that day. http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/ColdSteelPiercingB.jpg I'd have thought : should I tell her/his mum or not ? .. i'm wondering whether having her entire right arm in the picture would change something or not ? dominique -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Should I?
Pentax K20D, DA 3.5-5.6 18-55 18-55mm Taken outside a tattoo/piercing parlor in San Francisco Haight Ashbury district last December. Was she trying to decide on a tattoo or being pierced? Same place I had my ear pierced that day. http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/ColdSteelPiercingB.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What Makes a Good Photograph?
I don't know if this is an original thought, but a good photograph is like pornography, I know it when I see it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What Makes a Good Photograph? Was: Chicago
John, I think you are right on the money. From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: What Makes a Good Photograph? Was: Chicago Message-ID: 4bec1a38.2040...@nc.rr.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Stick my two cents in here ... for whatever it's worth. I'm one of those who doesn't get Eggelston. To me his work looks like a compilation of discarded snapshots purchased from yard sales and flea markets. But it's a matter of taste. Some people appreciate it, some people don't. Same could be said about any photographer. Annie Liebowitz has her fans ... so do Tony Sweet and Ken Rockwell. For me, a good photograph evokes a response from the viewer - it could be an emotional response or an intellectual response, but it evokes SOMETHING from the viewer other than boredom. That's why it's so hard to define a good photograph, because what evokes a response from me might not evoke one from you. There seem to be some photographs that are universally acclaimed, some that are not. How do you catalog the characteristics of those universally acclaimed photos to define goodness? What minimum of those characteristics are required for a new work to automatically become a good photograph? I don't think anyone has yet found the surefire recipe. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Last Louisiana Pelican
Found what may be the last Louisiana pelican for sale in Texas. Pentax PZ-20 w/ FA 3.5-4.7 28-80mm. Scanned from color nagative, film ?. Image just reminded me of the current Gulf happenings. http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/Transfer/KemahShops_014b.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What Makes a Good Photograph? Was: Chicago
The ongoing discussion only reinforces the idea that there is no universally accepted definition of a good photograph. Beauty continues to be in the eye of the beholder. BTW, Adams was also a consultant and early tester for Polaroid. He also shot 35mm. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
My Chicago Pic.
I grew up in Chicago (go Cubbies!) and first took up photography there. Here is one I took, from the then new John Hancock Building, viewing Grant Park and Michigan Ave. Just below center is the Chicago Art Institute. Don't remember what the camera was. Maybe my old Kodak Pony, my first 35mm. Alot of things to fix, but brings back alot of memories. http://s896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/Pentax/?action=viewcurrent=ChicagoatNight1961_002A1.jpg Jerry in Arizona -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My Chicago Pic.
Up until 3rd grade I lived at 69th and Western, then the family moved out the Oak Lawn until I graduated from Oak Lawn High School and left the area, forever as it worked out. I was one of those southsiders who took the El past Comisky on my way to Wrigley Field and watched Ernie Banks play two. After all these years Chicago is still one of my favorite places. From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: My Chicago Pic. Message-ID: b5a9f354-a919-460b-9749-3cb72fbf3...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On May 11, 2010, at 6:39 PM, Jerry in Arizona wrote: I grew up in Chicago (go Cubbies!) I grew up in Chicago as well, but on the southside where Cubby fans feared for their lives:-). I've been to Comisky hundreds of times, but only twice to Wrigley. Once for the fire department/police game in 1956 and once for the Bears/49ers in 1962. Where in Chicago did you grow up? I lived in Avalon Park, near 83rd, between Stony and Cottage Grove. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Completely, waaayyyy OT: Architecture - Personal
Maybe a nit, but PBS only receives 15% of its funding from the feds. From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Completely, waaa OT: Architecture - Personal Message-ID: 4be43d7a.5070...@nc.rr.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On PBS (US federal government funded TV) a few days ago, I saw an episode about Huf Haus. It's apparently an English company founded by Germans that does semi custom prefab houses in a way not many USicans will find familiar. I discovered on their web site that my taste in houses and architecture leans toward the Bauhaus school. Great, now I've gotta go to the frickin' library. :-) I discovered a few years ago in Darmstadt that I also like the Jungenstihl approach. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Right now in Toronto
Being in a wheelchair that is my normal perspective . . . that and belly buttons. Subject: Re: PESO: Right now in Toronto Message-ID: 4be4ca4a.5000...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Fernando wrote: I got bored of looking at other people's asses at the Chicago exhibition and instead caught this one of the thunderstorm in Toronto: -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tripods that fit in carry on
Mt St Helens was a single eruptive event, lasting a few hours at most. The Icelandic eruption has lasted for many days weeks?) spewing enormous amounts of particulates into the atmosphere far above Mt St Helens. Why don't you let the pros do their job instead of amateurish jabbing? From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Tripods that fit in carry on Message-ID: 4be18ee0.5030...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed WTF? The US didn't blanket ban air travel after Mount St Helens, there was no continent wide ban and no air crashes. Yes, there were several planes that made emergency landings from engine damage but they were in the air in the area of the volcano when the eruption occured. Most delays were caused by ripple effects from places actually effected by the plume, and actual air sampling gave a very good idea of where the problems areas lay. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: The Diner Breakfast
We seem to be the only place that glorifies gluttony. Message: 13 Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 09:02:13 -0400 From: Christian Skofteland pterali...@aim.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: The Diner Breakfast Message-ID: 20100504130213.gb3...@monza Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii And Americans wonder why there is a problem with obesity... Seriously, some of those 1, 2 and 3 pound burgers are meant for just one person but could easily feed 4 or more. I really don't get the fascination with oversized meals. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: The Diner Breakfast
I actually lived in Italy for 2 years . . . been there, done that! From: Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: The Diner Breakfast Message-ID: 4be077db.5030...@mindspring.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 2010-05-04 13:04, P. J. Alling wrote: You've obviously not traveled much. We're just open about it. On 5/4/2010 11:05 AM, Jerry in Arizona wrote: We seem to be the only place that glorifies gluttony. No doubt. Here's an experiment you can run yourself. Learn a handful of phrases of Italian, but make sure to include I'm /s/ hungry and that pasta looks /s/ delicious!. Go to an out-of-the-way local restaurant anywhere in Italy. Look earnestly at the staff and use your hungry phrase. Oh, make sure you've already cleared your calendar for the rest of the day and bought a bottle of Fernet Branca (?sp) beforehand. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tripods that fit in carry on
Last year we spent 3 weeks in Italy and travelled entirely by train. Enjoyed it immensely. Even more remarkable in that I am an amputee (left leg below the knee) and wheelchair bound. The Italtrain has a service called Salablue which put me on a lift, put me on a disability enabled coach, and removed me again at our destination. All at no additional cost. Larry Colen wrote: On 5/4/2010 12:51 PM, AlunFoto wrote: 2010/5/4 John Sessomsjsessoms...@nc.rr.com: If I was in Europe, I don't think I'd ever fly. Trains are a lot more fun, and in Europe you can actually get somewhere on 'em. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Latin Dancers
This is my first submission, so hope it works. This was a dance demonstration at a latin festival at the Heard Museum here in Phoenix and performed by local high school students. One of my first efforts with the then new K20D. I think the lens was the SMC FA 3.5-4.7, 28-80 zoom. I thought it had a bit more reach than the kit lens. Constructive comments welcome. http://www.flickr.com/photos/33662...@n02/4106416061 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Latin Dancers
Unfortunately I lost the original images from this set in a hard drive crash and have not been able to recover them so I had to depend on my upload to Flicker which is, as you noted, too small. I will do better! But thanks for the nice comments. I was particularly intrigued by the flowing yellow dress and her expression. Certainly a favorite of mine. Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 09:47:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Latin Dancers Message-ID: 119197.7843...@web50401.mail.re2.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Welcome, Jerry! This is somewhat small for a critical review. Great action, nicely frozen. Jack --- On Mon, 5/3/10, Jerry in Arizona glewis4...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jerry in Arizona glewis4...@yahoo.com Subject: PESO: Latin Dancers To: pdml@pdml.net Date: Monday, May 3, 2010, 9:31 AM This is my first submission,?so hope it works.? This was a dance demonstration at a latin festival at the Heard Museum here in Phoenix and performed by local high school students.? One of my first efforts with the then new K20D.? I think the lens was the SMC FA 3.5-4.7, 28-80 zoom.? I thought it had a bit more reach than the kit lens.? Constructive comments welcome. http://www.flickr.com/photos/33662...@n02/4106416061 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Latin Dancers
Thanks to all who have answered. Yes I thought it was a bit small but it was all I had left after the HD crash. But, is there someplace I can go to find the requirements for submission? Thanks to Cotty for telling me the minimum long side is 800 pixels, but is there a max? or any other limitations? Thanks to all again. From: Cotty cotty...@mac.com To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Latin Dancers Message-ID: 20100503182148.1587608...@smtp.mac.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 3/5/10, Jerry in Arizona, discombobulated, unleashed: This is my first submission,?so hope it works.? This was a dance demonstration at a latin festival at the Heard Museum here in Phoenix and performed by local high school students.? One of my first efforts with the then new K20D.? I think the lens was the SMC FA 3.5-4.7, 28-80 zoom.? I thought it had a bit more reach than the kit lens.? Constructive comments welcome. http://www.flickr.com/photos/33662...@n02/4106416061 Looks good but I'd like to see it in a larger size, at least 800 pixels on the longest side? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Ridiculous AF Macro
I am certainly glad that you are physically sound enough to use a manual focus macro (or any MF lens at all). There are those of us where being visually or physically disabled have severe problems with MF lenses. I suppose it might be helpful if you looked beyond beyond yourself before calling others ridiculous. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:40 AM, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO, autofocus on a macro lens is ridiculous. The greatest value in macro lenses that I have seen is the Tamron SP 90mm f2.5 (either 52B or 52BB). WHAT a lens for very little money. You'll need the matched Tamron converter (or any good 7 element macro converter) to reach 1:1. Alternately, use an extension tube. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ridiculous AF Macro
To those of us who need/appreciate the technology even AF itself is far from ridiculous. My apologies to any who were offended my my choice of words. For the record, I was calling no person ridiculous. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Davros and the Andaman Islanders
I'm sure our native Americans and most of the empires of European monarchs wish they had done a better job of securing their borders against aliens. They were, unfortunately for them, too civil. Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:07:52 +0100 From: Bob W p...@web-options.com To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: Davros and the Andaman Islanders Message-ID: b4d1c5dc98614639b5a91040a7155...@d56bbefa01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Nothing to do with Pentaxes or photography (unless we see ourselves as a forgotten tribe on a remote island), but it amuses me that Hawking thinks we should stand on the beach waving our spears at every passing frigate: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8642558.stm He's probably right, of course. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Spinning Wheel Diner
Being a wheelchair bound person, my answer is NO. I just hate the able bodied who take up those spaces. Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 11:50:08 -0400 From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Spinning Wheel Diner Message-ID: 4bd07030.1030...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Does anybody else just hate the aesthetics of the handicapped parking spaces and signs... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Spinning Wheel Diner
Well, I also drive a sports car (87 Alfa Romeo spider) with my chair stuffed into the boot. Took a bit of shadetree engineering to let me operate the clutch since my left leg is amputated below the knee. I use knee pads to let me crawl to and from the trunk to access my chair. Truth is, you can't tell since many disabilities are internal (i.e. heart, lung problems), but I am also angry about disability cheaters. Have to depend on the honesty of the doctors since they have to attest to the disability, at least in Texas and here in Arizona. Message: 4 Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:41:43 -0400 From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Spinning Wheel Diner Message-ID: 4bd08a57.5070...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Since they seem to give out those handicapped stickers to just about anyone for anything, (I should really take a few pictures of the absurdities of sports cars with handicapped hangers in those spaces), how can you tell. On 4/22/2010 11:19 AM, Jerry in Arizona wrote: Being a wheelchair bound person, my answer is NO. I just hate the able bodied who take up those spaces. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Spinning Wheel Diner
One of the truly aggrevating things about my disability is it severely interferes with my photography, especially places I cannot access in my chair. I get bored seeing everyones butt and navel. Alternatively it has forced me to rethink my photographic style and methods, an ongoing effort. Message: 5 Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:29:49 -0400 From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Spinning Wheel Diner Message-ID: 9c51t59dtg7ke7tntio994e8kmuguck...@4ax.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Jerry in Arizona wrote: Well, I also drive a sports car (87 Alfa Romeo spider) with my chair stuffed into the boot. You rock! :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Spinning Wheel Diner
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:57:30 -0400 Oddly, I think many disabled persons feel the same way. After a while our disabilities seem less daunting than others. From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Spinning Wheel Diner Message-ID: 4bd09c1a.3070...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I'm going to tell a true strory. My father had congestive heart failure. even though he could barely stand up and walk, due to both lack of strength and pain in his legs due to pore blood circulation. His doctor once opined that he shouldn't be able to get out of bed in the morning let alone climb a flight of stairs, which he did every day, to get to his office with quite some difficulty. For the last 5 years of his life he refused to get a handicapped permit, even though he easily qualified, because he wouldn't take a space from someone who needed it more than he did. Everytime I see someone who can easily exit a sports car and walk a couple hundred yards in one of those spaces it makes my blood boil, just a little. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re:street photography
While I can certainly admire alot of the work of street photographers, I just personally dislike being intrusive and dislike sending the message You're strange, I want a picture of you. So I find it very difficult to do that kind of photography. Jerry in Arizona Message: 2 Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 09:55:06 -0700 From: Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: street photography:good read Message-ID: y2m18cb9d971004180955u674431fep2cc3c35a7c3cb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2010/apr/18/street-photography-privacy-surveillance --S -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Paris
Lovely shots, and not the usual happy snaps. I got a real sense of Paris. Returning there myself in Oct. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Brass Penny
Loved the picture and thought the helmet made for an interesting past/present contrast. Biggest problem for me was the background, over which photog had no control other than maybe blurring (i,e bouquet) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 12:04:08 -0400 From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO -- Brass Penny Message-ID: 011d01cadcb5$48edb650$ac24e...@kena60ebc3b689 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Subject: PESO -- Brass Penny Somehow a plastic bike helmet just seems so wrong. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20brasspenny.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 28-200mm f3.8~5.6 Note: The problem with letting the camera pick the plane of focus is it's not often the one you prefer. And here I thought the operator was the one that picked the plane of focus ! As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: sudden stop
Unlike the Toyota, the Audi was an ergonomic issue with the location and size of the brake pedal. The sudden acceleration was found to be drivers pressing hartd on the accelerator when they thought they were pressing the brake pedal. Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 15:02:50 -0400 From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: sudden stop Message-ID: 4bc762da.3090...@nc.rr.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Several others as well. The Toyota case became notable for the same reason the Audi case became notable. They started off by denying it was happening at all, then tried to blame it all on driver error, and were eventually forced into a recall to fix the problem. Never would have become a problem if Toyota had been proactive, but somewhere along the way to getting bigger than GM, they started acting like GM. In Toyota's case there's also the lingering question of whether the fix actually fixed it? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.