Re: OT: Any US list members with knowledge abou the used (motor)yacht market?
It is indeed somewhat on topic as the yacht is my new shooting platform for my Pentax gear :-) I will buy it unseen! I was in Holland two years ago finding two boats. By the time I got home, both were sold! It costed me about $ 4000 and no boat! I will however do a marine survey. It cost cost around $1000. In addition, there are Norwegians in Florida who do business helping people buying boats arranging everything. For about 1.3 million Norwegian Kr (this include everything shipping + tax) I get a a boat that is worth in excess of 2 millions in Norway so the economical risk isn't that great. I will use it partly as a live aboard. I work one week and have one week off so I have plenty of time for boating and photography! - Original Message - From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 8:38 AM Subject: Re: OT: Any US list members with knowledge abou the used (motor)yacht market? Hi Pål! Long time, no... um... sea? Ok, sorry, I just couldn't resist. Sounds like and old dream nearing realisation there. As a hopeless landlubber I wouldn't know the first thing about the yacht market in any country, but it strikes me as a terrible gamble to make such investments over the internet, unseen. Are you planning to go over there and look for one? Btw, to make this on-topic, you could always claim you wish to take your Pentax for a circumnavigation. :-) Best, Jostein 2008/3/7, Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry about the OT message but I'm considering buying a 42ft Grand Banks motor yacht from Florida. Anyoneone who knows the general state of the market and whether asking prices are (very) inflated? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Any US list members with knowledge abou the used (motor) yacht market?
Sorry about the OT message but I'm considering buying a 42ft Grand Banks motor yacht from Florida. Anyoneone who knows the general state of the market and whether asking prices are (very) inflated? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Any US list members with knowledge abou the used(motor) yacht market?
- Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boats are a bigger money looser than sports cars/racing, photography, women children combined. Reply: Due to the almost worthless dollar, the Grand Banks yachts are almost half price in the US compared to market prices in Norway. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)
- Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pentax basically ignored the 35mm market for several decades and did have a respectable MF presence. Where has that gotten them to today? I think it is wrong to think medium format. Medium format used a certain film type that effectively put limits on its market penetration. A 645D is just another digital camera but with outstanding image quality. Price is the limiting factor and is at present an unknown. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)
- Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Look at the K10D. :-) While I appreciate the low price, it's got to be hard to make money on a body that depreciates by 50% in one year. It makes me wonder if they are still in the production line. Some of the stores selling at $999 would probably have to lose money selling at $699. I saw an *ist D online yesterday for $1299! REPLY: This is in the US and reflect Pentax US policy. It is expensive in the rest of the world. I'm sure Pentax is making money on it as their imaging division is going in plus due to DSLR sales... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)
- Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Given the reports on Hoya's management priorities, I can't see them allowing Pentax to embark down a road on a niche-market, low-volume product. According to Pentax and subsequently Hoya they want to be niche maker concentrating on the higher end... The simple fact is that 645 format MF cameras are off the radar of the vast majority of the camera buying public. It would be a stupid business move. The only people it would make happy is those interested in a 645D from Pentax, which is very few people. It is off the radar because no one is making an affordable one -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)
- Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] The market changes fast. I think Pentax missed the mark with the 645D. If it was released 2 years ago it might have had a chance. No chance at all. It would have been far too expensive. Only when the cost is right will a 645D have any chance But, as you point out, much of the MF market has already gone to the high end Canons. Sure. Just like the biggest buyer group for the 645N was Canon EOS1 owners Personally, I think releasing a high-priced, non-main-stream camera body right now would be just about the stupidest move Pentax could make. It's sales would be dwarfed by the continued popularity of high end Canons and now the D3. Pentax needs to sell as many bodies and lenses as possible, plus look competitve in the marketplace. I don't see the 645 filling that spot. They have to do both... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)
- Original Message - From: jtainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] All true, but BH still list a number of 645 lenses, most in stock. Pentax's immediate challenge would be some normal and wide-angle 645 lenses, and they already have a new normal lens on the lens map. The MF lenses are still available in Japan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've heard that it was designed as a D-FA lens for full-frame coverage (but optimized for digital with the latest anti-reflective coatings) and the designation was changed to DA because it has no aperture ring. On the original roadmap it as designated D-FA. That means that it at least started life as a FF lens Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)
Tom Wrote: Are you sure those lenses are in production? Designed maybe, but I would think otherwise in the same status as the 645D. They're not making lenses for a camera that's not on the production line. I'm not expecting it or holding my breath, but to me it makes *more sense* to produce a FF 24 X 36 body than the 645D. Here's why: 1. Canon and Nikon both now have FF bodies on the market. If Pentax can get one out in short order they can be #3 to do so, ahead of Sony and Olympus. That would be a big feather in Pentax's cap. 2. The sales of a 645D would be relatively small compared to the sales of a FF 24 x 36 body because the market is smaller. Pentax 35mm body/lens owners out number Pentax 645 owners by a large factor. Can't begin to guess what it is, 100-to-1, 1000-to-1? 3. Moving to a 645 format is much costlier to non-645 system owners because they must buy into a whole new system. I'd personally be more likely to buy a FF Canon or Nikon 24 x 36 body if I was going to change systems. Last but not least it would still fit in the same camera bag. :-) 4. Pentax can do the in body sensor crop when DA lenses are attached, preserving the usefulness of the DA lens series for those that have purchased them. 5. It can't be any harder for Pentax to design and manufacture a FF 24 x 36 body than the 645. They have all the basics. Yes they would need to reeingineer the image processing engine, have a larger LCD, and other firmware/hardware changes, but that's a given with any new camera model. The only thing really holding them back would be whether they can obtain a sensor at a price point that will put the resulting product within reach of a large number of customers. REPLY: 1. The fact that Nikon and Canon have FF camera on the market doesn't make it easier for Pentax to sell one. As Nikon and Canon FF bodies consist together at about 1% of the market the potential sales volume for a Pentax FF is minuscule indeed. I'm sure that the FF market share will increase but not significantly in the next couple of years. As an FF Pentax will be compared to Nikon and Canon FF camera it needs to be equal in other departments as well; not just the sensor. 2. Nobody knows the size of the MF based digital camera market as noone is really selling any. Mamiya is a microscopic player several times bankrupt and until a major player in digital cameras actually market an MF digital camera, the market simply won't happen. Also, the size of the market is dependent on the price of the 645D; an unknown at this point. My guess is that a 645D at twice the price of an FF Pentax K-mount Nikon killer will sell twice as much as that FF camera. As for lenses; there are much more pofessional grade Pentax MF lenses out there than Pentax K-mount pro glass. Most of the Pentax K-mount lenses are kit zooms and the 50/2 lens. None of them use by folks likely to buy a FF Pentax DSLR. All MF lenses are basically pro lenses in this regard and Pentax got a significant market share in the MF world; up to 50%. 3. As Pentax MF cameras are among the most popular MF systems of all times there are plenty of potential users for this camera. Besides, there are those who will want a sensor twice the size of any Nikon and Canon thus obtaining image quality not available from those brands; perhaps optimized for resolution rather than speed or high ISO performance. 5. It is much harder for Pentax to manufacture a K-mount FF camera than the 645D as the FF camera will need to compete with Nikon and Canon whereas the 645D will outperform Nikon and Canon in image quality and compete with obscenely priced digital backs. In addition, the 645D is built around the old 645 chassis, mirror, and finder system. Long since payed for. Its electronics is derived from the K10D or coming K-mount bodies. It also doesn't face the same demand for fast AF and image processing speed as a Nikon/Canon FF competitor will as it will be targeted at high resolution uses; typically landscape and studio use. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)
- Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] So what makes you think Pentax can do any better than Hassleblad, Maymia, Leaf etc? REPLY: Because the companies listed above a backyard businesses in size compared to Pentax and have to make all their earnings from selling very few, very expensive products. Whereas Pentax quite litterally sells millions of digital cameras a year. Theres also the effect of having a RD facility not depending on selling a few mega expensive products to finance its operation. Then there also the synergy effect of using technology or even components from existing cameras already payed for and profitable. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Nikon D300 sample photos
- Original Message - From: Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 12:56 PM Subject: Nikon D300 sample photos http://www.nikon-image.com/jpn/products/camera/slr/digital/d300/sample.htm That raises one question. Is it wort it? I seen Pentax K10D perform better than that and with more contrasty situations rather than carefully weighted studio lighting for this Harley Davidson set... What I'm wondering about is when anyone is going to manufacture a sensor that actually capture sharp images -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A few more images....
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] I still have a hard time believing that this stuff actually displaced Kodachrome as the saturated slide film of choice. Kodachrome may have been highly saturated but it still had some relationship to the colors of nature. REPLY: I took a test as a reaction to this myth about ten years ago. I shot the same scene (forest interior in overcast mid day light) with Kodachrome 64 and Velvia. Two weeks later I went back under similar light and compared the slides with reality. Guess what? The Kodachrome was truly way off from reality. It was completely unable to render the color green in anyway resembling reality: it was greyish and total flat. Kodachrome blues is also way off with a grey tint. Velvia was closer to reality being able to render the vibrancy of the greens. It is saturated but not by much compared to reality Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A few more images....
- Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can't believe that Pal would need to boost saturation or contrast on a scan from Velvia. He showed like images a year or more ago, and I don't recall having the same negative reaction to the saturation back then. DOn't know if they were from the same post-process back then or not. They have not been touched! Only the new images are and two of the old ones. If you have a different reaction to them, its you, not the images I have not boosted saturation on the images displayed now. PÅl -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A few more images....
- Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exactly which ones are the newer ones you've been having issues with? The five first ones. But now I have reposted them without saturation boost. They do not look as vibrant as the slides. This one: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6407005 is hardly as saturated as reality as I remember it. The sky was redder and not with orange hue on the film -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
A few more images....
I have added a few more images to my portfolio at Photo.net. Unfortunately, I can't get decent quality when posting to the web. I have to boost brightness, contrast and saturation so that particularly the sky in some images look uneven. Anyway, here they are. Comments welcomed. http://photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=266609 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A few more images....
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some great shots, but most are oversaturated, some are too bright and too contrasty. If you set the colorspace to SRGB and do a Save for Web in PhotoShop, you shouldn't have any problems maintaining the look of your original on the web. Paul Thats what I am doing but then they turn out bluish, without contrast and unsaturated and dark on my monitor when posted on Photo.net. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A few more images....
I'm using Velvia - Original Message - From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 6:57 PM Subject: Re: A few more images Pål Jensen wrote: I have added a few more images to my portfolio at Photo.net. Unfortunately, I can't get decent quality when posting to the web. I have to boost brightness, contrast and saturation so that particularly the sky in some images look uneven. Anyway, here they are. Comments welcomed. http://photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=266609 Double checking my hate file now. Why, yes, you are on it. Those are very nice. I really like the dramatic colors. Mind if I ask which film you're using? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A few more images....
- Original Message - From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to look at these with a calibrated monitor! They are =certainly= not bluish, without contrast, or undersaturated! In fact, if anything, they tend in the opposite direction. Gorgeous scenes and compositions; I'd love to see your prints sometime--or more accurate Photo.net posts. Ok. So how does this one looks (http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6406548) (I'll only keep it here for a short while) compared to this one: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6405827 The first one is a save for web from the original but it looks bland to me and not as vibrant as the original slide. The second is boosted in saturation brightness and contrast in order to make it look like the original slide. But it might be just my monitor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A few more images....
Thank you Mark! That did the trick it seems. I didn't have the right color space. I'm going to repost the images. - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:01 PM Subject: Re: A few more images Pål Jensen wrote: Ok. So how does this one looks (http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6406548) (I'll only keep it here for a short while) compared to this one: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6405827 The first one is a save for web from the original but it looks bland to me and not as vibrant as the original slide. The second is boosted in saturation brightness and contrast in order to make it look like the original slide. But it might be just my monitor First of all... if the image looks good in Photoshop but bad on the web (or vice versa) it's not an issue of monitor calibration. Even if your monitor is way off, it should be pretty much equally off with both sources. What you have happening is some kind of colorspace issue. In Photoshop, check the VIEW menu and make sure proof colors is not checked . If there is a check mark next to it, click it once to uncheck it. (If you really want proof colors on, use Windows RGB under Proof Settings, even if you're on a Mac. But I'd keep it completely off for now, as a control.) Next, go to the EDIT menu and click Convert to profile. Select sRGB IEC61966-2.1 as your DESTINATION space and click OK. Edit the image in any way you like to make it look good to you. Now convert from 16-bit color to 8-bit if it isn't already in 8-bit color. Now size down if necessary. From the FILE menu use Save for web When the Save for web dialog comes up, move the whole thing to one side so that you can see both the original image and the Save for web image at the same time. They should look the same. I usually *do* check the ICC Profile box in the Save for web dialog. Select your JPEG quality level and click SAVE and you should be done. To check, leave the original file open in Photoshop and open up the new Save for web version and compare them side by side. To check further, save the original file as a JPEG under a different name, using the standard Save As dialog then open it in a web browser. (Then open the Save for Web version in another browser and compare.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A few more images....
- Original Message - From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:34 PM Subject: Re: A few more images Pål Jensen wrote: Thank you Mark! That did the trick it seems. I didn't have the right color space. I'm going to repost the images. And Christian... and Godders and everyone else who said it was color space from the start... Actually it didn't help that much. They still look darker and less vibrant than the originals (slides or in Photoshop). Anyway, I have posted them again. They look less saturated now http://photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=266609 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A few more images....
- Original Message - From: Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Still super vivid from here I sure wish you could come over here, look over my shoulder, and tell me if it looks like you want it to from here. WOW that's a lot of color. I kinda like it, though. REPLY: After all, they are supposed to look colorful and vibrant. Thats why I shot them! They are mostly shot under spectacular lighting conditions with very vibrant colors. Velvia helps as well. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A few more images....
- Original Message - From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Film/digital ? Not that it matters, just curious. REPLY: Film. Velvia. Medium Format. Pentax 645NII. Mostly -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A few more images....
- Original Message - From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whatever you are trying to acheive it's not working, the degree of saturation that I'm seeing really detracts from what are otherwise a spectacular set of landscape images. They just do not look remotely realistic. REPLY: You mean apart from the Velvia look? :-) I'm not due much with the scans. Some level adjustments; perhaps a slight contrast and brightness adjustment; rarely any saturation adjustment. Anyway, the light was in most of the images pretty weird! A couple of them are landscapes lit by a blood red sun. It is supposed to have a red hue. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A few more images....
- Original Message - From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] A wonderful collection of outdoor images ! Location, location , location - with no disrespect to your photographic ability. REPLY: Thanks! The location is mostly a radius of a few kilometres from home. Often a 10minute boat trip. Three of the images are of the same pond: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6407005 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6406998 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5030361 It pays visiting the same location over and over. The locations are spectacular but I've found it incredibly hard to photograph. The chaotic nature of the landscape makes it hard to put on film as chaos do not work in a photograph. It is hard to find order here Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A few more images....
- Original Message - From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] So is your scanner calibrated to a reference Velvia film target such as the one below? http://www.targets.coloraid.de/ http://www.computer-darkroom.com/it8cal/it8_page_3.htm Anyway, the light was in most of the images pretty weird! A couple of them are landscapes lit by a blood red sun. It is supposed to have a red hue. Well there's saturated and saturated to the point that all subtle detail is lost, I suspect that some of your images fall into the later category. If that's your aim more power to you, they are a great set of images regardless but I just think that some of your presentation techniques are letting them down. Using better sharpening techniques is another area where you really could substantially improve their appearance. REPLY: I admit I am a novice when it comes to photoshop. I hate it! Anyway, many of the original slides look more vobrant and saturated than the images posted at Photo.net. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Photoshop problem?
I'm trying to upload a few pictures to my portfolio at Photo.net. However, when I save the files as JPEGs I loose some saturation; not so much to bother much about but I can't remember noticing it the last time I did this. More serious though is that when I upload the images to my portfolio at Photo.net the saturation decreases, the contrast decreases and the image get a bluish cast: the image losses all its impact. Anyone knows whats going on? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop problem?
Color space is sRGB - Original Message - From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 10:57 PM Subject: Re: Photoshop problem? Pål Jensen wrote: I'm trying to upload a few pictures to my portfolio at Photo.net. However, when I save the files as JPEGs I loose some saturation; not so much to bother much about but I can't remember noticing it the last time I did this. More serious though is that when I upload the images to my portfolio at Photo.net the saturation decreases, the contrast decreases and the image get a bluish cast: the image losses all its impact. Anyone knows whats going on? Check the color space of the file. Convert it to sRGB if it is set to anything other than that and save it again. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop problem?
Godfrey wrote: - Are you editing on a calibrated monitor? - What is your default working colorspace? - Are you converting from your working colorspace to sRGB? REPLY: No. The monitor is not calibrated. However, I have no real mismatch between monitor and prints. The default working space is sRGB. However, I've noticed that the files I saved for the web last year have colorspace data (under file Info: advanced) saying ICCProfile: Nikon sRBG 4.0.0.3001 and under EXIF data saying color space: 65535. These files works fine. No such data exist on my new scans although I am quite sure I used the same procedure. The new files simply says colormode: 3. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 12-24mm supply shortage?
- Original Message - From: Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] I ordered this lens on the 6th of May from TechnikDirekt.de, but it is still unkwon when the lens will be delivered due to supply problems of the supplier. I also noticed shops like TeKaDe.de and fotokonijnenberg.nl don't have the lens in stock. Anyone knowes what is going on? REPLY: Probably due to popularity. The Pentax K10D is now the most sold DSLR in Japan. There must be some lens sales associated with it PÅl -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Nikon 9000 scanner and Photoshop
Can anyone tell why images scanned with my 9000 scanner becomes rather magentaish when opened in Photoshop? They are perfectly OK in the scanner program. I've tried changing color settings in both programs but to no effect. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Nikon 9000 scanner and Photoshop
- Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] It isn't a colour management issue in Photoshop is it? Edit/Color Settings. Make sure you don't have something obviously wonky in there. After that, I just don't know REPLY: I've tried that. Can't find anything wonky, but then I really don't undertsnad much of it either -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Nikon 9000 scanner and Photoshop
- Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pal, I've had many dozens of frames scanned on a Nikon 9000 without ever noticing a magenta cast. REPLY: Nothing wrong with scans. They are perfectly OK in all other programs except Photoshop where they turn magenta... Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Hoya Agrees to Keep Camera Division
Margus wrote: What sector they are talking about??? REPLY: The endoscope sector... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
The Future of Pentax -- Great news!
Unfortunately the future of Pentax is more dependent on (major) shareholders from hell than products in the pipeline -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: has anyone here been to Iceland?
Amita wrote: Nate and I are planning our next trip, to Iceland. We will probably go in August. I've been reading and I know there are endless photographic opportunities there, but I was wondering if you guys know about anything in particular that I shouldn't miss. We are tentatively planning to do the southern coast and Lake Myvatn region, though I'm not sure if Lake Myvatn will work out. REPLY: I've lived in Iceland for two years. The southern part is a good choice; particularly the area from Vatnajøkull to the Snefellsnes peninsula. Myvatn is great for photographing ducks. I guess you are going to hire a car. The main road is very good except for a part in the nordeast where it is only dirt road. Minor roads may just be tracks and you might need four wheel drive. Some rivers don't have bridges so you have to drive through them. The Rekjanes peninsula near the airport at Keflavik is quite scenic and theres a seabird colony near Krisuvik worth visiting. The area around Myrdalsjøkul is very scenic with some spectacular waterfalls. At Vik, the southernmost part of Iceland have some scenic locations and a puffin colony. Otherwise there are those obvious destinations like Geysir and Gullfoss waterfall. If you are interested in shooting puffins the Latrabjarg birdcliff is hard to beat. This is the westernmost part of Iceland and it is hard to reach. The roads are awful but you can drive to the birdcliff. The puffins there are basically tame. If you go by car remember to stock up with gas before driving into the wilderness. There are less than 300 000 people in Iceland, a country the size of Ireland. Half of them live in Reykjavik. The weather is basically awful with wind and rain. However, if it is bad in the southern part of the island it probably much better in the north and vice versa. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: 77 Ltd. vs FA*85
Tim wrote: Another reason for preferring FA* was that he found the Ltd more a piece of jewellery. He expected he would feel a bit uncomfortable with using it outdoor under rough conditions. I can sympathise with this. The built of the FA* begs for real life use. He asked me if I felt the FA* to be a close range lens. Any comments on this? REPLY: I've owned both the FA* 85/1.4 and the 77 Limited. The FA* is the only FA* lens that didn't meet my standards optically. I found it to be poor performer at infinity distance (but great at close distances) to such an extent that I sended it to Pål at Pentax Norway. He said it was identical to his sample...I sold it cheaply to a PDML member who was very happy with it so there you go... In addition, the Limited is far more durable finish wise; at least the silver one is anodized on metal whereas the FA* is just soft paint on soft plastic. The FA* scratches incredibly easily and all my FA* lenses looks like shit from heavy outdoor use. All my Limited lenses look like new with the same usage. I feel that the FA* is primarily a portrait lens whereas the Limited is an all rounder with state of the art optical performance in all respects. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Hoya - Pentax Merger? - Sad News
Mark wrote: The question now is - what kind of camera manufacturer will Hoya be? REPLY: Theres no reason to assume they want to be a camera manufacturer. In the press release it is all about medical and optics; not electronics in digital cameras. This is a way to strenghten Pentax medical and optics division and make them less dependent on the imaging division. The imaging division will almost ceratinly be sold off to some electronics company pretty soon. Pentax don't need it anymore and Hoya never did in the first place. This is a sad day indeed... Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: RE: Pentax's Tatamiya Interview Part II, #1
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] You know, I've been reading for years, from people I trust on this list and elsewhere, that the primary advantage of USM/HSM/SSM/whatever is that it's quiet rather than faster. No one should be surprised at this point. How fast is fast enough? In the pre-digital age AF speed was the holy goal of photography; the single most, perhaps the only important factor in camera choice if various newsgroups postings are to be believed. Nowadays it is high ISO performance everything depends on. Yawn. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Best way to clean those difficult Multicoatings?
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:26 PM Subject: RE: Best way to clean those difficult Multicoatings? Oh no, I use alcohol nearly all the time and it works wonders Oh..that explains it all. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax's Tatamiya Interview Part II, #1
- Original Message - From: K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] A: I do not believe Pentax¹s AF has been slow even on the current lenses. Mechanical noise during AF might give impression of slow AF, but it is on par with competitions using the benchmark test. REPLY: Spot on. Thats what I've said all the time... Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 645 lens question
- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Others also complimented the performance of the 45 and 35 mm lenses. For what its worth I found the FA645 45/2.8 to be a pretty weak performer. It is no better than the zooms covering this range (the FA645 45-85/4.5 is in fact better) and was more prone to flare than any other Pentax lens I've ever used. I have never used the 35 or the 55 mm lenses but they are both regarded among the good ones. I recomment the 45-85 zoom instead of the 45mm. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The JCO survey
Shel: - Original Message - How do you know the part in question costs $5.00? Does the $5.00 reflect only the cost of materials, or does it include any manufacturing and setup costs to implement the item in cameras that were designed not to include the part? If it cost $5 and you sell a million cameras thats five million. I personally believe that the lens mount without mechanical coupling are more suited for robotic assembly. Mechanical linkages needs precision and is probably far more expensive to manufacture I suspect. Therefore I don't think we will see a completely compatible lens mount in anything but a top-of-the-line body if at all. Personally, I find this issue trivial. Although it would have been nice with complete comaptibility with K and M lenses, Pentax after all fully support all lenses made after 1983. Thats best in business. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The JCO survey
- Original Message - Wow! So if they sold 2 million cameras it would be 10 million! Think of all the savings they could make if they did not manufacture cameras! This feature, like all others, has been and would be sold to the customer. Sorry, but this is not how it works. The linkages is not regarded a feature that can be sold to the customer. It is an expense that do not increase sales but decrease profit. Eg the SR feature probably double or quadruple the potential sales of the K100D; very much worth the added cost. None of the competition offers more extended backwards compatibility than Pentax anyway so it is very likely that Pentax doesn't feel they are loosing anything by removing the linkage. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The JCO survey
Five million dollars in extra profit is great for any comapany; particularly in a field that traditionaly loose money - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 4:20 PM Subject: RE: The JCO survey His provided numbers are stupid in that they are not meaningful by themselves. If you sell a million Cameras at $1000, that's 1 $BILLION in revenue And the extra $5 million in cost is very small at that scale so it's all relative. Secondly, I honestly feel a separate model AT A HIGHER PRICE (just like anti-shake feature is marketed) could certainly overcome the extra production cost and be actually profitable on the body. jco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The JCO survey
If what you say is true, don't you think they would have done it? Do they deliberately loose sales over a mere $5? Are they just stupid or evil? Don't you think the reason that they don't include feature in the current cameras is because they see no financial rewards in doing so? - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 4:16 PM Subject: RE: The JCO survey Manual labor in asia ia probably cheaper than robotics Most likely at the qty(s) produced due to high Setup costs. K1000s had a whole bunch of itty bitty Parts and were hand assemebled essentially and sold For dirt cheap. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pål Jensen Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 7:22 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: The JCO survey Shel: - Original Message - How do you know the part in question costs $5.00? Does the $5.00 reflect only the cost of materials, or does it include any manufacturing and setup costs to implement the item in cameras that were designed not to include the part? If it cost $5 and you sell a million cameras thats five million. I personally believe that the lens mount without mechanical coupling are more suited for robotic assembly. Mechanical linkages needs precision and is probably far more expensive to manufacture I suspect. Therefore I don't think we will see a completely compatible lens mount in anything but a top-of-the-line body if at all. Personally, I find this issue trivial. Although it would have been nice with complete comaptibility with K and M lenses, Pentax after all fully support all lenses made after 1983. Thats best in business. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The JCO survey
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have over 20 years in product engineering and lived With marketing guys on my back all that time. Heres How it works : When (and if ) you add or remove features From products, the bottom line is, does it ADD ( or remove ) VALUE to the potential customer(s)? REPLY: It doesn't add value for 99,% of the customers who doesn't even know what an M lens is... Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Delay? What delay?
- Original Message - From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pentax owns the importers, and can do whatever they want to them. They don't. They may own some... Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The JCO survey
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] No, I didn't buy any new K/M lenses or A, They were already discontinued Years before I bought my first Pentax K Body in 1990. I already explained this to you. Duh. You have a very short memory. I don't Have any AF bodies so I havent bought any AF lenses. I prefer NICE manual focus for what I Do and the AF lenses manual focus sucks compared To the K/M lenses. Why not buy new lenses? I know I will. I find the FA* lenses to manual focus quite nicely. I'm sure the coming DA* will as well. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The JCO survey
- Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pentax doesn't offer full K/M support on DSLRs. They never have, it's not likely they ever will. Isn't that conclusion somewhat premature? Theres still the posibility of the KAF3 mount that is fully compatible with older lenses. I never expected this mount in anything than a top-of-the-line body. Time will tell if this mount makes it into the model to come above the K10D. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The JCO survey
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Listen, you mindless twit, if you cant add something To the discussion other than your vulgar Insults, then get lost. At least this stuff gives me plenty of good laughs Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Re; High ISO Images
- Original Message - From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, if Pentax was a company that communicated better with its customers, those customers wouldn't have to grope around in the dark so much. In the absence of support from the company, we turn to lists such as this. Doug, thank you for providing us with this forum. Huh? Pentax seems to be the best company out there regarding communicating with their customers. Who else are announcing their cameras and lenses up to a year before they hit the market? Surely we are not let to grope around in the dark. Now we even know there will be a body above the K10D quite soon... Maybe, just maybe, the market is pushing Pentax into bringing out a camera with a 10 mp sensor that will not yield very good images at high ISO, or even moderate ISO, thereby in some shooting situations partly or wholly canceling the advantage of shake reduction. We just don't know, because Pentax won't show us high ISO images. So we grab what's available and worry about what we see there. I just don't get the recent fad where high ISO performance is the holy grail of photography. Until quite recently hardly anyone shot anything faster than 400ISO and managed quite well... Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: File size of scanned 6x7 neg
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've got a mate telling me a high res drum scan of a 6x7 neg would only be 10MB in TIFF format. Surely it would be in the hundreds of MB neighbourhood wouldn't it? The TIFF files from scans from 6X4,5 format on the Nikon 9000ED scanner are 320Mb. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: DA 70
- Original Message - From: Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] From the 1st user samples I have just seen, it shares the same bright-ring bokeh as the FA77. Not that I am complaining but wonder if other 85 could do better. I believe ring bokeh happens due to the laws of optics (physics) when a certain degree of defocusing occurs. Due to the way lenses are commonly used it occurs most often in lenses around the middle focal lenght. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 645D estimated street price - unbeleivable it must be a mistake!
So what is the estimated street price??? Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Program mode is for idiots. Bravo! Mark! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?
- Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] John, why don't you get off this particular pot of shite. Oh no! It is entertaining. The best information that anyone onlist has been able to get is that the aperture simulator coupling is a gone, never to return. I'm not so sure. Theres still the posibility of the KAF3 mount. I have suspected that it would be reserved for a top of the line body. According to recent Pentax boss interview Pentax plan to make a K-mount pro body above the K10D. Time will tell... Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?
- Original Message - From: Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] The mechanical coupler is gone for good, and there's no reason for Pentax to reimplement it. We don't know that for a fact. Pentax have patented a new lens mount, KAF3 that support everything. It could be marketed in a product not price sensitive. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF
- Original Message - From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Another part of the rumor is that it might be an F5.6. We will just have to wait and see. I sincerely hope not. Such lenses are rather passè today and much better served by zooms; like 80-400/5.6. A 400/4 is about the longest and fastest lens that can be handheld, a real bonus with Pentax SR. In addition it will work well and AF with converters. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF
There are rumors at Dpreview that such a lens is indeed in the works. Can anyone confirm this? This is a dream lens for me Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF
- Original Message - From: Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why D-FA, not DA? REPLY: Because it doesn't make much sense to make long telephoto lenses with restricted image circles. A 400/4 will be exactly equally long and have exactly equally large front element in both D FA* form and in DA* form. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF
Yes, thats what the rumor said. Second half of 2007 after the D FA* 200/2.8 ED IF and the D FA* 300/4 ED IF. - Original Message - From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is not on the new roadmap. But who knows if they plan to release it after new 200 and 300 mm??? -- Pozdrowienia Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Some more images...
Thanks to all of you for your very nice comments Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
10mp DSLR enlargements
How big enlargements can one expect to get out of a 10mp DSLR like the K10D? A3 format? I've never used a digital camera Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 10mp DSLR enlargements
The Pentax K10D brochure claim print size up to 50 X 70cm. Is this just hype or what? I certainly cannot print that large from my 645 slides. - Original Message - From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] it depends. I've made 20x30 inch prints from 6mp (*ist D) by upsizing and interpolation. The level of detail is pretty darn good too. Of course there are people that will dispute this without looking at my prints. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Pentax DA 12-24/4
Any experience with this lens? A good one? I'm planning to buy the DA* 16-50/2.8 lens for the K10D in due course. However, I need something wider as well and Pentax doesn't offer a prime lens that is wider than 16mm except for the 14/2.8 which is too close to the 16mm to make much sense. Hence, the 12-24/4 might be an option. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Some more images...
I've added four images to my portfolio at Photo.net: http://www.photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=266609 They are all shot in august this year with the Pentax 645NII and the Pentax645 33-55/4.5 lens close to home. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5030349 This is a four minute exposure shot after the sun had set. The mountain is colored by the red afterglow whereas the rocks in the foreground is colored by the blue sky overhead. The location is the western side of the Moskenes island; the outermost of the major Lofoten islands in Northern Norway. This area represent the wildest coastal landscape on the planet and it is only accessible by boat. Straight ahead behind the montains runs the worlds largest maelstrom made famous by Jules Verne (20.000 leagues under the sea) and Edgar Allan poe (A descent into the maelstrom). The mountains in the image are among the lowest in the area at about 500metres tall. The boulders are about the size of houses. In the distant montainside, slightly to the right of the center of the image is a cave the size of a cathedral. This cave contains 5000 years old, stone age cave paintings. To the right of me is the open ocean where the next landmass is Greenland. To the left is a vertical mountain side that is about 800 meters high. Incidentally Poe describe the view from this mountain like this: A panorama more deplorable desolate no human imagination can conceive. To the right and left, as far as the eye could reach, there lay outstreched, like ramparts of the world, lines of horridly black and beetling cliff, whose character of gloom was but the more forcibly illustrated by the surf which reared high up against it its white and ghastly crest, howling and shrieking forever Pretty strong stuff there form Mr. Poe. Anyway, there were people living there to about the early 50's. Behind the mountain is a place named Hell. It is the only harbor in the area. There were several houses there and even a school. One of the gullies in the mountain in the picture is actually the school road for the kids living in the eare where the picture is taken. In the winter they uses ice axes (no, I'm not making this up). In the early 50's all the houses were dismantled and it is only inaccessible wilderness there now. Unfortunately the small size of the image on the web take away some of the impact. It works well as a large print. I think that the light communicate some of the gloom described by Poe. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5030355 I walked for an hour or so in the mountains in dense fog hoping that I eventually would get through it and that there would be photo oportunities. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5030361 I've had about six trips to this pond on a small island. In late august the light was finally on my side. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5030363 This is a previsualized image. I passed this mountain pond in 1999 and saw that it was an image here when the sun set. In mid august this year I finally got around doing it. I went up there, set up the tripod and waited for about two hours until the light was right. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: congrats to pentax
- Original Message - From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not to mention using proven, off the shelf parts, unlike much of the 645D (including the sensor). REPLY: The 645D chassis, mirror box, finder system, shutter assembly are right off the shelf. The camera electronics is almost certainly identical to the K10D or K100D just redesigned for a different circuitry board. Much of the image processing electronics is proably similar to the K-mount offerings. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
K10D at Dpreview
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pentaxk10d/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - NO PowerZoom :(
- Original Message - From: Margus Männik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Am I really the only one who uses and loves this feature? Probably -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
SMC Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF USM (WAS: Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?)
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would also by a 400 with USM if it's offered, and I can afford it. I really hope for a 400/4. It is about the longest and fastest lens that can be hand-held. With the 1,5X multiplication with the DSLR bodies, and perhaps an AF 1,4X converter, it would be a killer outfit! Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: SMC Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF USM (WAS: Re: Lens in motor or not?USM?)
DA won't make it smaller or cheaper - Original Message - From: Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 3:38 PM Subject: Re: SMC Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF USM (WAS: Re: Lens in motor or not?USM?) On 9/2/06, Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really hope for a 400/4. It is about the longest and fastest lens that can be hand-held. With the 1,5X multiplication with the DSLR bodies, and perhaps an AF 1,4X converter, it would be a killer outfit! 400/4 with SSM would be neat. Can't see any good reason to make it DFA, though. DA will make it smaller, cheaper and just as good. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: SMC Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF USM (WAS: Re: Lens in motor or not?USM?)
Huh??? There are three of them scheduled for release early next year. Pål - Original Message - From: Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 3:36 PM Subject: Re: SMC Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF USM (WAS: Re: Lens in motor or not?USM?) Out of 13 lenses projected until 2006, 11 are DA lenses, even the upcoming f/2.8 zooms. Right now I find it hard to believe we will see any more DFA lenses at all. Jostein On 9/2/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My fervent hope is that the FA lenses that have been discontinued in the last 2-3 years, such as the FA80-200mm f2.8 FA200mm f4 macro, are going through a re-design to take advantage of the new (to Pentax) USM technology. I'll be very disappointed, if we don't see DFA versions appear in the next year or 2. Dave On 9/2/06, Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would also by a 400 with USM if it's offered, and I can afford it. I really hope for a 400/4. It is about the longest and fastest lens that can be hand-held. With the 1,5X multiplication with the DSLR bodies, and perhaps an AF 1,4X converter, it would be a killer outfit! Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Herb Keppler's comments in Photo Reporter
He's authored this article on the battle for the 10% of the DSLR market not owned by the big two. One of the reason these company own this much of the market is bevause they have basically been left alone... This is about to change. Particularly Sonys marketing and engineering muscle will be felt. Pentax need to incorporate more character and identity into their products, in addition to what they do now, in order to succeed. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: DCRP K100D Review
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yep. It's SOP for Japanese companies (and many smart non-Japanese companies). It's called the Kanban system. I saw it in action in detail on a tour of a Dunlop tire factory a few years after the company was bought by the Japanese. It depends greatly on being able to quickly change production lines from one product to another, but in return you get to minimize your inventory of both raw material/parts *and* finished product. All parts assemblies on my 645n has a date printed on them; the body covers, the circuitry boards, the chassis etc. All dates are within two weeks of each other; most within days. It is obvious that the subcontractors manufactures the parts as close as possible to Pentax assembly date. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D
- Original Message - From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am sure a metal top plate would not have broken off in similar circumstances, though the breaking of the plate might have spared other parts of the camera from more stress. When I sold my Z-1p years ago I replaced all body parts so that it looked brand new. It was dirt cheap. The body parts of the magnesium MZ-S is very expenive; about $250. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D
- Original Message - From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's true. And there were some unquestionably PRO bodies with plastic outer shall: Canon EOS-1n, Minolta Dynax 9xi and our own Pentax 645n ;-) All these bodies proved to be tough and reliable even under quite severe conditions. I find that now that Pentax uses plastics with structure embedded it actually look at handles nicely. Furtermore scratches doesn't show. The glossy plastics Pentax used previously scratched easily and looked cheap and cheesy... Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] With all the speculation about what we might (or might not) have coming in the K10D I suddenly realized that no one has mentioned a couple of the things that I would most like to see improved over the ist cameras. Metering mode and drive mode should be accessible from separate and dedicated switches. The scrolling through menues was a nightmare on the Z-1p... Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?
- Original Message - From: Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now, maybe he isn't right... I dunno.. maybe simply the fact that someone reports it to be coming, then suddenly people to get an interest in it? Actually, the USM rumors stared in the late 90's; not a year ago! Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: DCRP K100D Review
- Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] FWIW, Pentax expected DLSR sales volumes are dwarfed by even Sony. They are only 6% marketshare behind Sony and is the fastest growing DSLR manufacturer at present. If Sony doesn't release anything hot at Photokina the K100 and K10D sales could surpass Sony. I agree with the principle of don't build more than you hope to sell. That's common sense. OTOH, not having product available on the shelf when a customer wants it does not help sales or loyalty. Their factories are going on 24h basis in three shifts withour being able to fill orders. Products that are sold faster than they are made may actually create an even more demand. The prouct is seen as very desirable as so many people wants it. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - facts and speculations
- Original Message - From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] It would be interesting to have possibility of adapting K100D for USM lenses ;-) But it is also possible that they planned to include USM support in K100D and dropped it because it wasn't complete and they wanted to bring K100D to market as quick as possible. I'd love it to be wrong however! Maybe the contacts pop out the moment you mount an USM lens? Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D Facts and speculations v2
Full metal body (Metal outside and inside, inspired by MZ-S construction) This is extremely unlikely and unthinkable at the rumored price. BTW The whole list is just an assemblages of the rumors floating around Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - facts and speculations
- Original Message - From: K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] So my real vote is no USM capability for the K100D :-). Many people might wish this be wrong and I have absolutely no foundation in predicting anything on this. The problem I have with this is that it is at odds with Pentax naming policy where you can infer compatibility from the name of the product. It is reasonable to assume that when Pentax was about to release a new series of cameras anyway why not use a naming policy that singles out USM compatible models? If The K100D is not compatible theres no way for the customer to see which K-series cameras are compatible and which are not unless looking at the specifications. The A-lenses were compatible with the A series. The F- lenses with the F bodies (SFX etc..). FA lenses with the (P)Z-series, wheres the new USM lenses are compatible with only sone K-series cameras. If it is so, it is very confusing. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - facts and speculations
- Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Would the opposite also be correct? Would USM lenses work as AF lenses on screw-driver bodies? Would they even work as MF lenses? My guess is that they will work as MF lenses only. They might not have aperture rings as they are not fully compatible with older lenses anyway. Time will tell... Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - facts and speculations
- Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] So let me get this right. If USM or it's Pentax-monikered equivalent is introduced, anyone that wants to take advantage of it is going to have to buy new lens(es) ? Yes, but I want new lenses anyway. A lack something between 200 and 600mm. Also, I expect the K10D to not change my shooting style, but add a shooting style to my current one. I expect to do more hand-held, spontaneous photography. For that I need different lenses. I don't care if they have USM or not; I'll buy them anyway. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D FS v3
- Original Message - From: Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyway, it seems that everyone thinks the KAF3 is all for in-lens AF, so that goes up unless someone objects. But even if it has USM does have to use the KAF3 mount? As I remember it the KAF3 uses all the mecahnical linkages. What if they have made an evolution of the crippled KAF2 mount? Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
But what about the 645D?
??? Any news, Rumors??? Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - facts and speculations
You have lost the plot. It was about USM lenses functionality on older bodies. Not older AF lenses on the K10D... I have never suggested Pentax will not support screw drive AF - Original Message - From: DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:43 PM Subject: Re: K10D - facts and speculations Den 31. aug. 2006 kl. 22.33 skrev Bob W: My guess is that they will work as MF lenses only. They might not have aperture rings as they are not fully compatible with older lenses anyway. Time will tell... I think Nikon still have an in-camera AF motor to support some older lenses. Why couldn´t Pentax do the same? Occam's razor Nope, Occam´s razor shaves away everything that is unnecessary, but the old AF lenses are necessary for Pentax. And why would they kill lenses like the DA40mm and DA21mm that soon? They have killed the lenses that need fast AF motors, and we should expect them to have a reason for that. .-) DagT http://dag.foto.no Beware of internet links. You never know what is on the other side. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: But what about the 645D?
But it does mean that there are news about it in the press release? - Original Message - From: Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:49 PM Subject: Re: But what about the 645D? Press release date is around the 15. September. And no, I'm not in the know of anything on this one. :-( Jostein On 8/31/06, Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ??? Any news, Rumors??? Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?
- Original Message - From: Toralf Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now, that's a longer explanation than the one I intended to write, but the point is that the AF chip has work to do while the motor is moving. Are you saying that this is now negligible? It is why Canons NEED manual override... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Re: Full Frame/Canon (and their propaganda)
- Original Message - From: KEN TAKESHITA [EMAIL PROTECTED] As Canon themselves admit, cameras with FF sensors would be too big and heavy to carry. Cameras not carried would be photos not taken. They don't have to be as big. The Pentax 645D is in fact smaller and will have twice the sensor. Canon make big camera because they sell better than small ones according to their marketing philosophy (big is expensive; small is cheap - I saw this in an interview with an engineer; they dicide first the size of the thing based on marketing, then make it so). Look at the Elan II; a crappy entry level slr approaching the size of a Pentax medium format camera for no other reason that it will impress the customer in the shop who seem to get more (air) for their money. Making something small cost money; sometimes a lot if you really want to do real miniaturization. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Nikon Coolscan question
- Original Message - From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is the difference between the two glass 120/220 film holders? One rotates, one doesn't? No idea what the use for the rotating film holder is. A glass holder is mandatory for scanning MF on the 9000ED scanner. Otherwise you won't get sharp corners. It is a shame that the glass holder isn't standard with the scanner. It is basically useless without it. Plus, where can I find the standard, less expensive glass holder in stock? It's seems they're on national backorder. B+H have had the glass holder on back order for close to a year. I found mine in Norway. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Turbulent age
- Original Message - From: K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] However, Sony brand should be really at work here. Interestuing to see how Sony will fare in the future. My understanding is that the Sony brand is quite strong in Japan and in the US. However, in the rest of the world Sony is just another anonymous consumer electronics manufacturer, most known for entry products like the walkman, with no more brand status (if any) than Panasonic, Samsung, Sanyo or anyone else. So I can't see they will sell much on the brand name alone. They have a far weaker brand recognition than Nikon and Canon and even Pentax. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - Canon to Rival Pentax 645D ?
- Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Surely not... http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon_medium_format_2ff.html At least it looks better than the digital Rebels. This after all seem to involve a designer -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Turbulent age
- Original Message - From: DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] People are moving, and Canon looks oldfashioned. I think that the brand perception with digital is moving away from the structure it had for film cameras. Camera are now consumer electronic products, an area where brand recognition traditionally has never been strong; price/performance will be more important along with distribution and sales outlets. What the pros are using, and particular the photo journalists, are less important now for brand recognition. In addition, many slr buyers come from a different background than previous slr owners; they are now not necessarily photo enthusiast nor do they necessarily know anything about brands for film slr's. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Turbulent age
- Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd like to point out that these figures are only for Japan and do not necessarially reflect the worldwide picture. Sure, but the japanese have a tendency of pioneering world-wide trends when it comes to photo equipment. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: venting about lack of available 3rd party other lense
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's not what the new K10D is offering ... you'll just have to wait and see. Hopefully, Aaron and his source are correct about the new feature. But we have only seen this feature on paper, not in real life. Lets see how it delivers. I'm slightly pesimistic... Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: DA 100mm f2.8 Macro
- Original Message - From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't just pick the wrong one on the *ist D I also often turn it the wrong way. Same here with the Z-1p. I used the camera for 6 years but still consistently turned the dials the wrong way and poked my eye in the process. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: DA 100mm f2.8 Macro
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Except the thumbwheels are better than the aperture control on the lens. With two thumbwheels, like those on the *istD, one can adjust either shutter or aperture while keeping both hands firmly on the camera and a finger on the shutter. I've never seen anyone holding the camera firmly with two hands. One hand rest always, at least for 99%, on the lens. The idea of using one hand for all controls is a bad one. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Nikons
- Original Message - From: Douglas Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have heard rumors that the K10D might be similar in size and build to the D200. If that were true, I'd be thrilled... It is significantly smaller than the D200 and will give better image quality. I have no idea how it is built. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
