Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-31 Thread left channel


philippe_44 wrote: 
> I saw the problem of blinking position at 00:01 with material skin
> (mobile version). I'll investigate

Thanks Philippe!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-31 Thread robanglin


slartibartfast wrote: 
> As you absolutely sure you are not seeing the display issue? When I
> first tested by skipping tracks I didn't see it but as soon as I just
> let the tracks change naturally the issue appeared. 
> 
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Positive; although I can almost never get through more than a track or
two without a skip or interruption...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-31 Thread philippe_44


I saw the problem of blinking position at 00:01 with material skin
(mobile version). I'll investigate



LMS 7.7, 7.8 and 7.9 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet, 1xTouch, 1 SB2. Sonos
PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBoxOne, XBMC, Foobar2000,
ShairPortW, JRiver 21, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, , Pi
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-31 Thread slartibartfast


robanglin wrote: 
> I have no issues with the display, and the per-track duration view is
> definitely an improvement. In my very limited testing just now, I am
> still seeing premature skipping and/or track interruption with
> Bill/Rebecca's announcement (as described in earlier posts). This is
> with the main FLAC feed. Happy to provide more details if needed/wanted.As 
> you absolutely sure you are not seeing the display issue? When I
first tested by skipping tracks I didn't see it but as soon as I just
let the tracks change naturally the issue appeared. 

Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk





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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-31 Thread left channel


The count/progress display issue seems to reset at the start of each
block. 

The skipping/interruptions problem does not happen often here, but I
have seen it.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-31 Thread robanglin


I have no issues with the display, and the per-track duration view is
definitely an improvement. In my very limited testing just now, I am
still seeing premature skipping and/or track interruption with
Bill/Rebecca's announcement (as described in earlier posts). This is
with the main FLAC feed. Happy to provide more details if needed/wanted.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-31 Thread Kees


slartibartfast wrote: 
> Same here. The first track displayed elapsed time correctly but the
> second displayed the flashing 00.01
> 
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Same here.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-31 Thread slartibartfast


left channel wrote: 
> Thanks Philippe and Michael! There is at least one bug to work out. I'm
> happy to help test. 
> 
> I played the Main Mix. The first track displayed exactly the right total
> time, countdown, and progress bar. 
> 
> For the next tracks the total time was correct, but the countdown and
> progress bar blinked "00:01" without changing. That was on SLX with
> Material Skin, but I checked the Squeezer app and saw the same issue,
> with the countdown and progress bar stuck at "00:00" (but at least no
> blinking). 
> 
> Switching to another RP mix/channel, and the bug did not occur until
> after one music track, one RP ID message, and one more track. Then the
> bug reappeared for every subsequent track. The blinking is quite
> distracting. 
> 
> Hope that information is useful. I have limited access to my LMS
> installation, as it is part of the Sonicorbiter package (7.9.2, December
> 7th release), but I listen to RP almost every day and am happy to help
> test this.Same here. The first track displayed elapsed time correctly but the
second displayed the flashing 00.01.[image:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190331/bd3962262d276d11a69698b874e44182.jpg]

Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk





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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-31 Thread left channel


mherger wrote: 
> Thanks to Philippe44 RP v2.3.0 finally will show you the individual
> tracks' duration, rather than the duration of the "block" of tracks
> Radio Paradise is streaming. He managed to implement what I've failed a
> few times before :-D. Thank you very much!

Thanks Philippe and Michael! There is at least one bug to work out. I'm
happy to help test. 

I played the Main Mix. The first track displayed exactly the right total
time, countdown, and progress bar. 

For the next tracks the total time was correct, but the countdown and
progress bar blinked "00:01" without changing. That was on SLX with
Material Skin, but I checked the Squeezer app and saw the same issue,
with the countdown and progress bar stuck at "00:00" (but at least no
blinking). 

Switching to another RP mix/channel, and the bug did not occur until
after one music track, one RP ID message, and one more track. Then the
bug reappeared for every subsequent track. The blinking is quite
distracting. 

Hope that information is useful. I have limited access to my LMS
installation, as it is part of the Sonicorbiter package (7.9.2, December
7th release), but I listen to RP almost every day and am happy to help
test this.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-31 Thread Kees


mherger wrote: 
> Thanks to Philippe44 RP v2.3.0 finally will show you the individual
> tracks' duration, rather than the duration of the "block" of tracks
> Radio Paradise is streaming. He managed to implement what I've failed a
> few times before :-D. Thank you very much!

YESsss... First results are good looking :p;):D



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-31 Thread mherger


Thanks to Philippe44 RP v2.3.0 finally will show you the individual
tracks' duration, rather than the duration of the "block" of tracks
Radio Paradise is streaming. He managed to implement what I've failed a
few times before :-D. Thank you very much!



Michael

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-18 Thread Kees


philippe_44 wrote: 
> Yes, it's in the plugin options. But if you wait a bit, I think i've
> foudn a solution to handle short tracks

That would be great :o
Otherwise please point me out where exactly to find this "flow" mode?
Can't find it...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-17 Thread philippe_44


Kees wrote: 
> Is this "flow" mode something i can try?

Yes, it's in the plugin options. But if you wait a bit, I think i've
foudn a solution to handle short tracks



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-17 Thread Kees

philippe_44 wrote: 
> AFAIK, there is a problem with very short tracks in  my plugin (UPnP and
> Cast) ans it seems that the announcement are such tracks and they happen
> at the end of a song ‘cluster’. We discussed that already in the past
> and I don’t have a solution. I can’t remember if using ‘flow’ mode
> helped

Is this "flow" mode something i can try?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-17 Thread philippe_44

Kees wrote: 
> Upnp via the Upnp/Dlna bridge by Philipe
> 
> (Radio (v1.0), Radio Paradise (v2.2.3), rescan Music Library (v1.0) and
> UPnP/DLNA bridge (v1.10.0) are the only plugins i use)

AFAIK, there is a problem with very short tracks in  my plugin (UPnP and
Cast) ans it seems that the announcement are such tracks and they happen
at the end of a song ‘cluster’. We discussed that already in the past
and I don’t have a solution. I can’t remember if using ‘flow’ mode
helped



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ShairPortW, JRiver 21, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, , Pi
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-17 Thread slartibartfast


Kees wrote: 
> Upnp via the Upnp/Dlna bridge by PhilipeMaybe ask Philipe44  about it then. 
> It could be an issue with the upnp
plugin.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-17 Thread Kees


slartibartfast wrote: 
> I mean upnp or airplay. The Devialet is not a squeezebox so how do you
> stream to it?
> 
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Upnp via the Upnp/Dlna bridge by Philipe



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-17 Thread slartibartfast


Kees wrote: 
> Yes, the Radio Paradise plugin by Michael HergerI mean upnp or airplay. The 
> Devialet is not a squeezebox so how do you
stream to it?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-17 Thread Kees


slartibartfast wrote: 
> How do you stream to the amp? Is a plugin involved?
> 
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Yes, the Radio Paradise plugin by Michael Herger



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-17 Thread slartibartfast


Kees wrote: 
> LMS is running on my Syno DS412+ NAS, streaming to a Devialet 250 Pro
> Amp/Streamer.
> I 've mentioned this in my first post.
> 
> Anyway, ive just given up(much to my regret). I guess the AAC
> stream has to be it
> Tried an other ISP, an other router, other cabling, another version of
> LMS, all with the same result. The only things i obviously couldn't
> change were my NAS, my Amp/Player and the RP plugin.
> 
> Thank you all for your help,
> 
> Regards KeesHow do you stream to the amp? Is a plugin involved?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-17 Thread Kees


d6jg wrote: 
> When you say "stream to my amp" what is the player connected to your amp
> - a proper SB device, a Pi, one of the bridge plugins or what?
> 
> I don't use Squeezer but my understanding is that it is a controller
> only.
> 
> SqueezePlay is a software player that should connect to LMS and play on
> your PC through the PCs sound card. It cannot be used to stream to
> anywhere else. Since this works it suggests that the fault is not with
> LMS.
> 
> Where is your LMS by the way?

LMS is running on my Syno DS412+ NAS. I 've mentioned this in my first
post.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-14 Thread left channel


Agreed, Squeezer is not a player just a very basic control app. Clean,
fast, and stable, but basic. 

A slower but more feature-rich alternative would be the LMS web app.
With the Material Skin, it's optimized for mobile and quite enjoyable. 

I use both as needed.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-14 Thread slartibartfast


d6jg wrote: 
> I stand corrected then.
> Do you think the OP is therefore using Squeezer to cast to his Amp - is
> that possible within the software?
> In SqueezePlay you CAN add to favourites. Can't remember how at present
> but you definitely can.Squeezer is not a player. You were right first time.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-14 Thread d6jg


kappclark wrote: 
> I have been using Squeezer on my Android, and also Squeezeplay on a
> Fedora box (in WINE) and a windows laptop. Squeezer is strictly a
> player -- for example - I cannot add favorites to LMS if for example I
> discover a good stream ... I have to use the Logitech remote, or goto
> the web interface for the LMS ... ditto for Squeezeplay.  I believe
> there are android apps which will allow you to update LMS. Squeezer is a
> free app.

I stand corrected then.
Do you think the OP is therefore using Squeezer to cast to his Amp - is
that possible within the software?
In SqueezePlay you CAN add to favourites. Can't remember how at present
but you definitely can.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-14 Thread kappclark


d6jg wrote: 
> When you say "stream to my amp" what is the player connected to your amp
> - a proper SB device, a Pi, one of the bridge plugins or what?
> 
> I don't use Squeezer but my understanding is that it is a controller
> only.
> 
> SqueezePlay is a software player that should connect to LMS and play on
> your PC through the PCs sound card. It cannot be used to stream to
> anywhere else. Since this works it suggests that the fault is not with
> LMS.
> 
> Where is your LMS by the way?

I have been using Squeezer on my Android, and also Squeezeplay on a
Fedora box (in WINE) and a windows laptop. Squeezer is strictly a
player -- for example - I cannot add favorites to LMS if for example I
discover a good stream ... I have to use the Logitech remote, or goto
the web interface for the LMS ... ditto for Squeezeplay.  I believe
there are android apps which will allow you to update LMS. Squeezer is a
free app.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-14 Thread d6jg


kidstypike wrote: 
> Squeezer does not control LMS, it controls any player that is connected
> to LMS. In the Squeezer app you need to select the player that you wish
> to control.

That isn't correct. All of the control apps send their commands to LMS.
LMS controls the player it is told to. A control app is in this respect
exactly the same as the web gui.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-14 Thread d6jg


When you say "stream to my amp" what is the player connected to your amp
- a proper SB device, a Pi, one of the bridge plugins or what?

I don't use Squeezer but my understanding is that it is a controller
only.

SqueezePlay is a software player that should connect to LMS and play on
your PC through the PCs sound card. It cannot be used to stream to
anywhere else. Since this works it suggests that the fault is not with
LMS.

Where is your LMS by the way?



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[B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s
*Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3
-> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes
*Dining Room* -> SB Boom 
*Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio)
*Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones
*Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-14 Thread slartibartfast


Kees wrote: 
> Yes it does, but it plays to my PC and can't stream to my AMP.So LMS does not 
> appear to be the problem. 

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-14 Thread Kees


kidstypike wrote: 
> Squeezer does not control LMS, it controls any player that is connected
> to LMS. In the Squeezer app you need to select the player that you wish
> to control.

Hmmm confusing :confused:
To me it seems like Squeezer is controlling LMS, which in return sends
it feedback to Squeezer.
They seem to (inter)act the same way (when one is stopped, the other one
is. When one is paused, the other one is, when one selects a different
station, the other one does. vice versa).



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-14 Thread Kees


slartibartfast wrote: 
> Isn't Squeezeplay connected to LMS? That seems to play correctly.
> 
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Yes it does, but it plays to my PC and can't stream to my AMP.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-13 Thread Redrum


Kees wrote: 
> If my wifi should be flaky how come the AAC stream and other stations as
> well as my NAS play all day long without a glitch.
> 
> TIA Kees

Michael and others more knowledgeable than I might be able to provide
more insight, but RP FLAC streams are different than normal net radio
streams. See post #610 in this thread. My issues with the FLAC streams
are so very very infrequent, but when I did have a problem, switching to
a normal stream (like the RP 320kbps) or my library was my "solution".

I think the suspicion (or at least my suspicion) of network or wifi
issues is more the RP FLAC's ability to handle exceptions/interruptions,
as opposed to a LMS issue.

I have streamed the FLAC stations so continuously trying to get an
abnormal situation that I can replicate (trying to help), that I am
starting to realize how often the groovy, rock, mellow mix play the same
songs :). 

Jim



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-13 Thread kidstypike


Kees wrote: 
> PC is wired and as a matter of fact, i've changed ISP last week, alas
> with the same issues. If my wifi should be flaky how come the AAC stream
> and other stations as well as my NAS play all day long without a glitch.
> 
> As Squeezer is just a controller (which controls LMS), it pins things
> down to LMS imo. But i won't rule out my network and will dig deeper
> into that. More ideas and suggestions are appreciated :cool:
> 
> TIA Kees

Squeezer does not control LMS, it controls any player that is connected
to LMS. In the Squeezer app you need to select the player that you wish
to control.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-13 Thread slartibartfast


Kees wrote: 
> PC is wired and as a matter of fact, i've changed ISP last week, alas
> with the same issues. If my wifi should be flaky how come the AAC stream
> and other stations as well as my NAS play all day long without a
> glitch.
> 
> As Squeezer is just a controller (which controls LMS), it pins things
> down to LMS imo. But i won't rule out my network and will dig deeper
> into that. More ideas and suggestions are appreciated :cool:
> 
> TIA KeesIsn't Squeezeplay connected to LMS? That seems to play correctly.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-13 Thread Kees


PC is wired and as a matter of fact, i've changed ISP last week, alas
with the same issues. If my wifi should be flaky how come the AAC stream
and other stations as well as my NAS play all day long without a
glitch.

As Squeezer is just a controller (which controls LMS), it pins things
down to LMS imo. But i won't rule out my network and will dig deeper
into that. More ideas and suggestions are appreciated :cool:

TIA Kees



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-13 Thread Redrum


d6jg wrote: 
> No. I'd say that was a networking issue. Is the PC wired ? Chromecast &
> Tab are obviously wireless. I'd start with your wi-fi.

I have to agree that networking seems to be involved in this issue in
general, and when I read your post Kees, that's what I thought, and have
been thinking. RP FLAC, and of the four stations can play rock solid for
me for hours, but it seems to not handle network exceptions as well as
say a standard stream. Also, the fact that some have allot of trouble
where others do not, and other inconsistancies,  might point to this.

I changed my ISP provider recently (for other reasons), and my
experience is almost 100% fine.

But, we had a significant wind storm here (my ISP is cable, above
ground). The RP FLAC streams would play a few seconds and freeze (I had
to manually restart), the 320 kbps was much better but allot of
rebuffering. I finally got fed up and played from my library.

It may or may not be related, but if I sync and unsync players in the
middle of a FLAC stream it almost never works without a restart, where
the 320kbps or my library works fine.

Just some observations.

Jim



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-13 Thread kidstypike


Kees wrote: 
> Thanks for your reply. you've giving me a clear hint. Here are my
> findings.
> 
> Tried Squeezeplay (playing to my PC) side by side with LMS via Chrome
> (playing to my Amp).
> Squeezeplayer keeps on playing whereas LMS stops after most every block.
> Streaming also stops after almost every block using Squeezer on my
> android TAB. Those two seem to (inter)act in the same way.
> 
> I can't however get Squeezeplay to stream to my Amp, nor can ik get LMS
> to play to my PC, or Squeezer to play to my TAB.
> 
> It looks like there's some "wake-up call" or synchronisation missing,
> when playing to my Amp.
> 
> Regards Kees

But Squeezer is just a controller, not a player. Are you sure Squeezer
is actually controlling the player that's playing to your amp ot TAB or
whatever?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-13 Thread d6jg


Kees wrote: 
> Thanks for your reply. you've giving me a clear hint. Here are my
> findings.
> 
> Tried Squeezeplay (playing to my PC) side by side with LMS via Chrome
> (playing to my Amp).
> Squeezeplayer keeps on playing whereas LMS stops after most every block.
> Streaming also stops after almost every block using Squeezer on my
> android TAB. Those two seem to (inter)act in the same way.
> 
> I can't however get Squeezeplay to stream to my Amp, nor can ik get LMS
> to play to my PC, or Squeezer to play to my TAB.
> 
> It looks like there's some "wake-up call" or synchronisation missing,
> when playing to my Amp.
> 
> Regards Kees

No. I'd say that was a networking issue. Is the PC wired ? Chromecast &
Tab are obviously wireless. I'd start with your wi-fi.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-13 Thread Kees


d6jg wrote: 
> The live version of The Wall ?
> 
> Seriously. It is working for me. Have you tried another (software)
> player to test whether it is LMS or player side ?
> 
> Try SqueezePlay
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/squeezeplay/windows/

Thanks for your reply. you've giving me a clear hint. Here are my
findings.

Tried Squeezeplay (playing to my PC) side by side with LMS via Chrome
(playing to my Amp).
Squeezeplayer keeps on playing whereas LMS stops after most every block.
Streaming also stops after almost every block using Squeezer on my
android TAB. Those two seem to (inter)act in the same way.

I can't however get Squeezeplay to stream to my Amp, nor can ik get LMS
to play to my PC, or Squeezer to play to my TAB.

It looks like there's some "wake-up call" or synchronisation missing,
when playing to my Amp.

Regards Kees



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-12 Thread d6jg


Kees wrote: 
> Anybody out there?:p

The live version of The Wall ?

Seriously. It is working for me. Have you tried another (software)
player to test whether it is LMS or player side ?

Try SqueezePlay
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-03-02 Thread bkonijn


mherger wrote: 
> > I have experienced this, and not only the RP logo, but stuck artwork
> > from several songs before. Tony mentioned using skip, but I have gone
> > back, then reselect, get the artwork proper again. I have also
> > experienced when I do go back and reselect, it might start from, say
> 2-3
> > songs before (i.e. I'll hear the previous 2-3 songs again).
> 
> Would this be on all interfaces (LMS web UI, devices, mobile apps)?
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

I have LMS/Squeezelight on RPi. Since the latest update Groovy mix runs
perfect, Mellow mix incidentely stops.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-28 Thread d6jg

mherger wrote: 
> > Usually with Internet Radio you upload your tracks and a playlist or
> > point the output of your source to a Shoutcast server or similar but
> RP
> > seems different. Anyone know more?
> 
> RP lossless is not a regular internet radio station. It has features 
> like skipping tracks, which you couldn't do with the Shoutcast way of 
> streaming. RP does indeed send out tracks in groups of files. Therefore
> 
> you'd see a playtime of 30 minutes or other. When you reach the end of a
> 
> group, or hit Next, RP would send another block.
> 
> I don't know why they decided to stream in blocks rather than just 
> single tracks. It certainly makes things much more complicated from my 
> POV, as I have to update the metadata for a single file in sync with 
> what is supposed to be streaming. Other than with Shoutcast the metadata
> 
> is not part of the stream.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

Thanks Michael. It’s certainly an interesting way of doing things but
having dabbled a bit with Internet Radio in the past I can see it would
make the upload easier and I think there is some “normalisation” going
on which may also be easier with blocks.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-28 Thread d6jg

Tony T wrote: 
> The "About RP" on the RP Website may have the answer:
> https://www.radioparadise.com/info/about

Thanks. I found that page via their Legacy web site after posting. It’s
not on the “new” site at all.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-27 Thread Michael Herger

Usually with Internet Radio you upload your tracks and a playlist or
point the output of your source to a Shoutcast server or similar but RP
seems different. Anyone know more?


RP lossless is not a regular internet radio station. It has features 
like skipping tracks, which you couldn't do with the Shoutcast way of 
streaming. RP does indeed send out tracks in groups of files. Therefore 
you'd see a playtime of 30 minutes or other. When you reach the end of a 
group, or hit Next, RP would send another block.


I don't know why they decided to stream in blocks rather than just 
single tracks. It certainly makes things much more complicated from my 
POV, as I have to update the metadata for a single file in sync with 
what is supposed to be streaming. Other than with Shoutcast the metadata 
is not part of the stream.


--

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-27 Thread Tony T

d6jg wrote: 
> I’m sort of glad there have been problems with this plugin as it made me
> look at the plugin which as a U.K. listener I’d never tried before.
> I’m loving RP Flac streams. I think I prefer it to 6 Music due to the
> very limited talk element. Some of the DJs on 6 think it should be all
> about them not the music.
> I am however wondering exactly how RP puts together its programming. If
> I look at the track duration it usually tells me circa 30 mins but that
> 30 mins contains 6 or so tracks and perhaps some talky bits. The
> metadata also changes a few seconds before the track changes.
> None of this is at all an issue it just causes me to wonder how it’s put
> together. 
> Usually with Internet Radio you upload your tracks and a playlist or
> point the output of your source to a Shoutcast server or similar but RP
> seems different. Anyone know more?

I didn't read all of it, but theres a FAQ on the RP Website:
https://www.radioparadise.com/info/faq



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-27 Thread d6jg

I’m sort of glad there have been problems with this plugin as it made me
look at the plugin which as a U.K. listener I’d never tried before.
I’m loving RP Flac streams. I think I prefer it to 6 Music due to the
very limited talk element. Some of the DJs on 6 think it should be all
about them not the music.
I am however wondering exactly how RP puts together its programming. If
I look at the track duration it usually tells me circa 30 mins but that
30 mins contains 6 or so tracks and perhaps some talky bits. The
metadata also changes a few seconds before the track changes.
None of this is at all an issue it just causes me to wonder how it’s put
together. 
Usually with Internet Radio you upload your tracks and a playlist or
point the output of your source to a Shoutcast server or similar but RP
seems different. Anyone know more?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-27 Thread Tony T


mherger wrote: 
> > I have experienced this, and not only the RP logo, but stuck artwork
> > from several songs before. Tony mentioned using skip, but I have gone
> > back, then reselect, get the artwork proper again. I have also
> > experienced when I do go back and reselect, it might start from, say
> 2-3
> > songs before (i.e. I'll hear the previous 2-3 songs again).
> 
> Would this be on all interfaces (LMS web UI, devices, mobile apps)?
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

On the SB Touch, SB Radio and WebUI for me (also iPeng).



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-27 Thread Redrum


mherger wrote: 
> > 
> Would this be on all interfaces (LMS web UI, devices, mobile apps)?
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

95% of my RP listening is with a touch and receiver sync'ed on a piCore
server. My UI's are primarily the touch, but occasionally a controller
or the SqueezeCntrl app on android. If it happens again, I'll try to pay
more attention/experiment between the three interfaces.

I have a hunch that the back a few songs/restart the song anomaly has
something to do with sync, and especially due to "self resyncing" after
some type of network exception (e.g. "rebufferingwaiting to sync" UI
message). Syncing/Unsyncing with the FLAC streams always seems to
struggle. I also believe that could be related to the fact that when you
first start the stream, it always (as you know) starts from the
beginning of the song, as opposed to other streams that "join in
progress"

In fact, I don't think I have ever seen the "waiting to sync" message
after "rebuffering" until I started listening to the FLAC streams,
perhaps because the recovery happens so quickly with other streams.

Sorry, just sharing some thoughts. In general the FLAC streams perfectly
acceptable for me, because the exceptions are so infrequent. I know it's
allot more problematic for others.

Its also a good time to thank you, and the others for not only FLAC
streaming, but the mix of RP genres. It is wonderful!

Jim



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-26 Thread Michael Herger

I have experienced this, and not only the RP logo, but stuck artwork
from several songs before. Tony mentioned using skip, but I have gone
back, then reselect, get the artwork proper again. I have also
experienced when I do go back and reselect, it might start from, say 2-3
songs before (i.e. I'll hear the previous 2-3 songs again).


Would this be on all interfaces (LMS web UI, devices, mobile apps)?

--

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-26 Thread Redrum


Tony T wrote: 
> Not skipping, but after awhile the Artwork is no longer displayed (only
> the RP logo)
> If I forward to the next track, I get the Artwork back.
> Rock Mix
> Mac mini
> Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.2 - 1548942599 @ Thu Jan 31 15:15:00
> CET 2019
> v2.2.3 plug-in

I have experienced this, and not only the RP logo, but stuck artwork
from several songs before. Tony mentioned using skip, but I have gone
back, then reselect, get the artwork proper again. I have also
experienced when I do go back and reselect, it might start from, say 2-3
songs before (i.e. I'll hear the previous 2-3 songs again).

Not sure this is relevant, and can't say I have experienced this
recently. I'll stream it and keep an eye out.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-26 Thread Tony T


Not skipping, but after the 1st song, Artwork is no longer displayed
(only the RP logo)
Rock Mix
Mac mini
Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.2 - 1548942599 @ Thu Jan 31 15:15:00
CET 2019
v2.2.3 plug-in



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-25 Thread Tony T


Didn't know there was an update.  I have a Mac, and need to restart the
server when a new plug-in is updated. 
I'll post if I still have skipping.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-24 Thread Michael Herger

After that, I aborted the effort. Server log file can be viewed at this
link:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1zc1HmF87m_R-HICNKaBPMMn1xNTrZEyV
Crap... and after all the silence I got after the update I thought I had 
finally nailed it :-(. I'll need a way to reproduce this. Thanks for the 
log.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-24 Thread robanglin


Hi Michael,

I didn't realize the plugin had been updated until today (over the last
few weeks I've been playing the 320 stream). This evening I did some
in-depth testing with the FLAC version (verified that I am on v. 2.2.3).
Interruptions/skips as bad as ever. I turned RP logging up to debug, set
all other logging to off, and started with a fresh log file; I am
posting the log file at the link below. Here's my log of the actions I
took.

Made sure that browser pages to the LMS were closed (since I understand
this causes excess log entries). From a SB Touch that I unsynced from
all other players, I selected the FLAC stream, and then watched the
display and logged the following; all times are EST (UTC -5).

10:05 PM12:32 Block starts to play
1st song: Ben Harper: How Dark is Gone --> Plays to completion
2nd song: Quicksilver Messenger Service: Fresh Air --> Interrupted by
Bill announcement a couple of mins in

10:12 PM After interruption above, new 24:14 block starts
1st song: The War on Drugs: Pain --> Plays to completion
2nd song: Elbow: Charge --> Interrupted by Bill within seconds of
starting

10:17 PM After interruption above, new 20:37 block starts
1st song: Thievery Corporation: Sweet Tides --> Plays to completion
2nd song: Blur: This is a Low  --> Display changed to show song and
cover art, but never actually started playing; Bill came on with another
announcement

10:22 PM New 29:36 block started, 1st song: Bob Dylan: It's alright, Ma
(I'm only bleeding) 

After that, I aborted the effort. Server log file can be viewed at this
link:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1zc1HmF87m_R-HICNKaBPMMn1xNTrZEyV

Let me know if there's any other info I can provide.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-24 Thread Redrum


mherger wrote: 
> 
> Yes, 2.2.3 is the latest. And what exact problem are you still seeing?
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

actually, it is running fine for me recently. Others had noticed
frequent "skips" in the past, but I only had that happen once over days
of running it. My previous "issues" were premature ending of songs or
even hanging up (very occasional), but I can't say that anything
improper has occurred in a while. But, it's never been a problem that
would cause me to not use it.

I was just asking to make sure I was running the most recent, so if I do
note something I can contribute.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-24 Thread Michael Herger

Michael, forgive me for asking, but, I can I assume that if the the
setting->plugin page shows Radio Paradise v2.2.3 checked, and I have the
"update plugins automatically" radio box at the bottom of the page
checked, that I am running the latest? I didn't see any other way to
access the plug in version number.


Yes, 2.2.3 is the latest. And what exact problem are you still seeing?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-24 Thread Redrum


mherger wrote: 
> 
> 
> Ahm... I hoped the latest had fixed this. What version are you running?
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

Michael, forgive me for asking, but, I can I assume that if the the
setting->plugin page shows Radio Paradise v2.2.3 checked, and I have the
"update plugins automatically" radio box at the bottom of the page
checked, that I am running the latest? I didn't see any other way to
access the plug in version number.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-24 Thread Michael Herger

If you want a few people to test your new version I'm quite happy to be
one of the Guinea pigs - we tend to have RP running a lot of the evening
most days so could definitely see if it's "jumping" behaviour is better.


Ahm... I hoped the latest had fixed this. What version are you running?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-24 Thread robanglin


philsparks wrote: 
> Hi Michael
> 
> If you want a few people to test your new version I'm quite happy to be
> one of the Guinea pigs - we tend to have RP running a lot of the evening
> most days so could definitely see if it's "jumping" behaviour is better.
> I suspect a few of the guys above who are particularly susceptible to
> this behaviour would do the same.
> Cheers
> Phil

Same here!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-24 Thread philsparks


mherger wrote: 
> > Does this happen on a Touch? I have never experienced it.
> 
> Transporter and Squeezeplay on Mac. I think it depends not only on the 
> player and its buffer size, but also on what kind of controllers you've
> 
> connected. I believe that eg. using a web UI could worsen the issue.
> 
> In general my code seems to be overly complicated, trying to be smart 
> about timings etc. when most of the hard facts actually is in the 
> metadata I receive from RP. I'm currently testing a much simplified 
> version of the track handling. I'm just not sure I'll get the listening
> 
> hours required to run into this issue over the weekend... I'll do as 
> much listening as I can and will release for testing shortly.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

Hi Michael

If you want a few people to test your new version I'm quite happy to be
one of the Guinea pigs - we tend to have RP running a lot of the evening
most days so could definitely see if it's "jumping" behaviour is better.
I suspect a few of the guys above who are particularly susceptible to
this behaviour would do the same.
Cheers
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-08 Thread Michael Herger

Does this happen on a Touch? I have never experienced it.


Transporter and Squeezeplay on Mac. I think it depends not only on the 
player and its buffer size, but also on what kind of controllers you've 
connected. I believe that eg. using a web UI could worsen the issue.


In general my code seems to be overly complicated, trying to be smart 
about timings etc. when most of the hard facts actually is in the 
metadata I receive from RP. I'm currently testing a much simplified 
version of the track handling. I'm just not sure I'll get the listening 
hours required to run into this issue over the weekend... I'll do as 
much listening as I can and will release for testing shortly.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-08 Thread slartibartfast


mherger wrote: 
> > v2.2.2 comes with minor changes which I hope will improve the
> behaviour 
> > on the announcements. They should hopefully no longer interrupt
> playback 
> > in the middle of a song. Please let me know about your experience.
> Enjoy 
> > the music!
> 
> Argh... it just happened again... But I got a new theory. Stay tuned!
> 
> -- 
> 
> MichaelDoes this happen on a Touch? I have never experienced it.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-08 Thread Michael Herger
v2.2.2 comes with minor changes which I hope will improve the behaviour 
on the announcements. They should hopefully no longer interrupt playback 
in the middle of a song. Please let me know about your experience. Enjoy 
the music!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-08 Thread Michael Herger
v2.2.2 comes with minor changes which I hope will improve the behaviour 
on the announcements. They should hopefully no longer interrupt playback 
in the middle of a song. Please let me know about your experience. Enjoy 
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-07 Thread philsparks


I just changed my players to "proxy" rather than "direct". 

I -think -it's a bit better, but not really sorted.  Been listening for
approx. 30mins and had two skips.  

The first one was mid song and it jumped to a short Rebecca "your
listening to radio paradise" announcement.  The second time, halfway
through a song it stopped and another song started playing.  

This was listening to a Pi-2 with PiCorePlayer loaded on it.  LMS is
sitting on a WHS-11 server.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-07 Thread earthbased


mherger wrote: 
> ok, ok, got a new theory on the skipping issue. Bill's and rebecca's 
> announcements are no longer part of a larger segment of audio, but 
> sometimes come as their own short sound snippet. I've seen one as short
> 
> as 4 seconds. And i have some fuzzy logic built in which would act on 5s
> 
> offset of whatever. I would not be surprised if such a short snippet 
> would confuse my logic.
> 
> Could all of you who experience this issue often tell me what kind of 
> player you're using? The skipping could be related to audio buffer size.
> 
> Which would explain why i hardly ever experienced it on my transporter.
> 
> -- 
> 
> michael

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-07 Thread Heuer


mherger wrote: 
> > Boom and SB3 here.
> and you're facing issues with interruptions through Bill's 
> announcements, too? If so, how bad is it? And what RP channel are you 
> listening to?
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

Main FLAC stream. Song stops followed by a pause and then a Bill
announcement. Does not seem to happen on the Main 320k stream.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-06 Thread robanglin


mherger wrote: 
> Ok, ok, got a new theory on the skipping issue. Bill's and Rebecca's 
> announcements are no longer part of a larger segment of audio, but 
> sometimes come as their own short sound snippet. I've seen one as short
> 
> as 4 seconds. And I have some fuzzy logic built in which would act on 5s
> 
> offset of whatever. I would not be surprised if such a short snippet 
> would confuse my logic.
> 
> Could all of you who experience this issue often tell me what kind of 
> player you're using? The skipping could be related to audio buffer size.
> 
> Which would explain why I hardly ever experienced it on my Transporter.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

I am using SB Touches exclusively. I have 6 total in various rooms of
the house, and at least 2 are synced at all times. However, for me at
least, the "skipping" is NOT sync related (i.e., I've unsynced players,
and have done even so far as to test with only a single SB Touch on the
network). BTW, this is with the Main FLAC mix. On very rare occasions, I
can get through a ~10 min block uninterrupted. Usually, though, the 2nd
or 3rd song ends prematurely. Lately I've been listening to the 320 MP3
stream so my memory of the details is getting a bit fuzzy. I will do my
best to have another go at the FLAC stream(s) and make a detailed log of
what I observe at the first opportunity I get (may not be for a few days
though).



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-06 Thread Tony T


Redrum wrote: 
> so it's in the middle of a song, and resumes in the same song? No
> silence gap I assume? I don't think I have experienced that. A while ago
> it was like a song ended prematurely and a new one started. But that was
> on a different system, LMS on windows, a touch or boom via wireless, and
> crappy DSP ISP.

In the middle of a song.  Very short silence gap (what I meant by
'skip'), and very infrequent, like once/hr.
I was getting a stop/pause between songs, but not since I switched to
proxy streaming this morning.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-06 Thread Redrum


Tony T wrote: 
> I'm hearing it in the song, like a skip.
> Not happening too often, though, maybe once every hour.

so it's in the middle of a song, and resumes in the same song? No
silence gap I assume? I don't think I have experienced that. A while ago
it was like a song ended prematurely and a new one started. But that was
on a different system, LMS on windows, a touch or boom via wireless, and
crappy DSP ISP.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-06 Thread Tony T


Redrum wrote: 
> 
> 
> With regard to skipping, you guys are hearing basically a song end
> prematurely and a new one starting? Are there other manifestations?
> 
> 


I'm hearing it in the song, like a skip.
Not happening too often, though, maybe once every hour.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-06 Thread Redrum


Tony T wrote: 
> Are you using Direct or Proxy Streaming?
> WebUI->Settings->Player->[Audio]->[Streaming Method]
> 
> I switched to Proxy today and has not paused or stopped (but it is
> 'skipping')

Thanks Tony, Direct. I'll try Proxy.

I started experimenting today and found that if I start unsynched (on
touch, RP main stream) then add a receiver via sync, all sorts of
problems start to snowball, a sync where the main player pauses for
sync, then only it resumes, and sometimes it resumes on a song already
heard, frozen artwork, etc. and alot of button presses trying to get it
to recover.

I'm going to play around a bit over the next couple days with syncing
and unsynching these specific players with RP FLAC, other radio
stations, my library, etc, even direct/proxy. If I can cause a specific
issue that I can replicate, I'll report back.

With regard to skipping, you guys are hearing basically a song end
prematurely and a new one starting? Are there other manifestations?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-06 Thread Tony T


Redrum wrote: 
> Touch with two receivers synched, LMS 7.9.2 on PiCore server. Receivers
> via Wifi, Touch currently on WiFi, but normally on ethernet. Standard RP
> stream
> 
> I don't think I am experiencing the skipping recently, more a hangup
> that I have to go Back/Fwd to restart. But I do recall having the "what
> was that?" skipping when the FLAC stream became available.
> 
> It has been working quite well recently, and I do get the announcements
> from B
> 
> Personally, for no good reason other than a hunch, I suspect the sync is
> the catalyst of the issue. A while back I had buffering issues with a
> sync with a different receive on the fringes of good wifi, and it was
> difficult to maintain stable playback for anything (for the synced
> group) until I improved my router and positioned the receiver better.
> 
> I'll run the touch by itself for the next couple days and see what
> happens.
> 
> Jim

Are you using Direct or Proxy Streaming?
WebUI->Settings->Player->[Audio]->[Streaming Method]

I switched to Proxy today and has not paused or stopped (but it is
'skipping')



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-06 Thread Redrum


Touch with two receivers synched, LMS 7.9.2 on PiCore server. Receivers
via Wifi, Touch currently on WiFi, but normally on ethernet. Standard RP
stream

I don't think I am experiencing the skipping recently, more a hangup
that I have to go Back/Fwd to restart. But I do recall having the "what
was that?" skipping when the FLAC stream became available.

It has been working quite well recently, and I do get the announcements
from B

Personally, for no good reason other than a hunch, I suspect the sync is
the catalyst of the issue. A while back I had buffering issues with a
sync with a different receive on the fringes of good wifi, and it was
difficult to maintain stable playback for anything (for the synced
group) until I improved my router and positioned the receiver better.

I'll run the touch by itself for the next couple days and see what
happens.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-06 Thread Tony T


I experience this listening to RP Rock Mix
LMS 7.9.2 on a Mac mini.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-06 Thread philsparks


mherger wrote: 
> > Boom and SB3 here.
> and you're facing issues with interruptions through Bill's 
> announcements, too? If so, how bad is it? And what RP channel are you 
> listening to?
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

raspberry pi with pi core player (I have 2 of these in different rooms).
The skips are radom but "every few songs" is an average.

Although the most common skip seems to stop a song half way through and
then go to an announcement, I'm sure I've had instances where a song
stops half way through and then another song starts. 

I listen to the main channel pretty much all the time.

Sorry, not clever enough to know whether this helps or hinders!

cheers
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-06 Thread Michael Herger

Boom and SB3 here.
...and you're facing issues with interruptions through Bill's 
announcements, too? If so, how bad is it? And what RP channel are you 
listening to?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-06 Thread Heuer


Boom and SB3 here.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-05 Thread Michael Herger
Ok, ok, got a new theory on the skipping issue. Bill's and Rebecca's 
announcements are no longer part of a larger segment of audio, but 
sometimes come as their own short sound snippet. I've seen one as short 
as 4 seconds. And I have some fuzzy logic built in which would act on 5s 
offset of whatever. I would not be surprised if such a short snippet 
would confuse my logic.


Could all of you who experience this issue often tell me what kind of 
player you're using? The skipping could be related to audio buffer size. 
Which would explain why I hardly ever experienced it on my Transporter.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-03 Thread Redrum


I'd like to share my observations, by chance it might contribute to an
"ah ha" for someone...Like I said before, RP is casual listening, and
while I prefer FLAC, i just switch over to the 320kbps stream if the
FLAC stream struggles. My ears are getting older (along with the rest of
me) so critical listening isn't as critical these days :)

With the renewal of this discussion, I have been running it all day
everyday, but it never makes it through the day without freezing.
Typically it runs for maybe 1-2 hours before needed attention, but
occasionally it struggles a bit more often (as short as 10-20 minutes).
I always attributed the stop after hours as an "end of a cue of songs"
just as a guess.

When it stops, artwork is frozen, or broken, even if it restarts by
itself, or I restart it with a back/play. That is, if it stopped with
artist #1, restarting it with artist #2, artwork for #1 remains
displayed for some time. I always assumed once broken it needed me to
fix it, but a couple times recently, it stopped, I was busy and didn't
address it, and was surprised when it started, say maybe an hour later
(especially since the listening level was not exactly soft).

For no good reason other than a hunch, I just  suspected it was due to
the fact that this stream be differently than say, a normal internet
radio station, with regard to recovery from network/router hardware
issues. I have two locations, one with crappy 3Mbps DSL, and one with
100Mbps cable ISP. I have experienced "rebuffering" for years on the
DSL, primarily with receivers on WiFi, but occasionally/rarely with a
touch on LAN. But the RP FLAC hangup is on the cable ISP. I also (very
rarely) will get rebuffering with a standard 128kbps stream. When it
happens I just figure it's my ISP, or a mystery within my router/LAN.

The other thing I wonder is if it has something to do with
synchronization. Can there be a bad actor on a sync group that could
cause issues for the others? I ask because often I have two receivers on
WIFI synced with the touch on LAN. This week I'll run it un-synced and
see how it behaves.

In my experience these "happens to some, not to others, happens
sometimes, not others, cannot be predicted, etc" are related to the
unique systems (network?) and unique situations (synced with a weak wifi
signal?) that maybe exposes something in the software/hardware that
isn't apparent when the support system is iron clad. 

Just my observations. I'm running PiCore LMS, and like I said, typically
leave a touch on LAN and two receivers on WIFI synched.

Jim



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-02 Thread bkonijn


mherger wrote: 
> > I noticed that RP Mellow Mix (flac) stops/freezes every now and then.
> > When stopped, my screen shows the "Listener-Supported,
> Commercial-free"
> > announcement. Configuration:  LMS 7.9.1 on Raspberry Pi (max2Play),
> two
> > Squeezelite players synchronized.
> 
> Unfortunately this is an issue that has been reported several times 
> before - but which does not seem to affect all users at the same level.
> 
> I've seen it happen once every now and then in one environment, too. But
> 
> it's far from "every other track" as some claim. And I yet have to see 
> it at home. It's on my radar, but I haven't figured it out yet.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

OK, thanks,  if I can be of any help testing, let me know!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-02 Thread Michael Herger

I noticed that RP Mellow Mix (flac) stops/freezes every now and then.
When stopped, my screen shows the "Listener-Supported, Commercial-free"
announcement. Configuration:  LMS 7.9.1 on Raspberry Pi (max2Play), two
Squeezelite players synchronized.


Unfortunately this is an issue that has been reported several times 
before - but which does not seem to affect all users at the same level. 
I've seen it happen once every now and then in one environment, too. But 
it's far from "every other track" as some claim. And I yet have to see 
it at home. It's on my radar, but I haven't figured it out yet.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-02 Thread bkonijn


I noticed that RP Mellow Mix (flac) stops/freezes every now and then.
When stopped, my screen shows the "Listener-Supported, Commercial-free"
announcement. Configuration:  LMS 7.9.1 on Raspberry Pi (max2Play), two
Squeezelite players synchronized.

Log file (stopped playing at 15:14):

[19-02-02 15:11:53.0017]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::_metadataUpdate (292) Scheduled
metadata update
[19-02-02 15:11:53.3092]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (198) Refreshing
metadata
[19-02-02 15:11:53.3110]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (207) Current
playtime in block
(https://audio-3.radioparadise.com/blocks/chan/1/4/153479-153482.flac?src=alexa):
719.3
[19-02-02 15:11:53.3126]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (258) Scheduling
an update for the end of this song: 165
[19-02-02 15:11:53.3167]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (194) Returning
cached metadata
[19-02-02 15:11:53.6280]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (194) Returning
cached metadata
[19-02-02 15:11:53.6318]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (194) Returning
cached metadata
[19-02-02 15:12:35.3665]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (194) Returning
cached metadata
[19-02-02 15:12:35.3704]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (194) Returning
cached metadata
[19-02-02 15:12:35.3953]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (194) Returning
cached metadata
[19-02-02 15:12:35.3998]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (194) Returning
cached metadata
[19-02-02 15:12:35.4330]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (194) Returning
cached metadata
[19-02-02 15:12:35.4370]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (194) Returning
cached metadata
[19-02-02 15:12:35.4640]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (194) Returning
cached metadata
[19-02-02 15:12:35.4680]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (194) Returning
cached metadata
[19-02-02 15:12:35.5045]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (194) Returning
cached metadata
[19-02-02 15:12:35.5085]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (194) Returning
cached metadata
[19-02-02 15:12:37.6387]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (194) Returning
cached metadata
[19-02-02 15:12:37.6429]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (194) Returning
cached metadata
[19-02-02 15:12:37.6527]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (194) Returning
cached metadata
[19-02-02 15:12:37.6566]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (194) Returning
cached metadata
[19-02-02 15:14:29.5401]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getNextTrack (112) Fetching new
block of events:
https://api.radioparadise.com/api/get_block?bitrate=4=1=true=alexa=153482
[19-02-02 15:14:30.3005]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__ (121) {
bitrate => "flac",
chan => 1,
cue => 0,
end_event => 153_483,
event => 153_483,
expiration => "1549203270",
ext => "flac",
filename => { "0" => 5_006_423 },
image_base => "//img.radioparadise.com/",
"length" => "3.01",
song => {
"0" => {
artist=> "Commercial-free",
asin  => 101,
cover => "covers/l/101.jpg",
duration  => 0,
elapsed   => 0,
event => 153_483,
slideshow => "22593,23835,10962,23886,13466",
song_id   => 0,
title => "Listener-supported",
},
},
type => "P",
url =>
"https://audio-3.radioparadise.com/blocks/chan/1/4/5006423.flac;,
}
[19-02-02 15:14:30.9868]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (198) Refreshing
metadata
[19-02-02 15:14:30.9882]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (207) Current
playtime in block
(https://audio-3.radioparadise.com/blocks/chan/1/4/153479-153482.flac?src=alexa):
0.0
[19-02-02 15:14:30.9898]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (258) Scheduling
an update for the end of this song: 0
[19-02-02 15:14:30.9962]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (198) Refreshing
metadata
[19-02-02 15:14:30.9977]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (207) Current
playtime in block
(https://audio-3.radioparadise.com/blocks/chan/1/4/153479-153482.flac?src=alexa):
0.0
[19-02-02 15:14:30.9993]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (254) Not sure
I'm in the right place - scheduling another update soon
[19-02-02 15:14:31.3253]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (198) Refreshing
metadata
[19-02-02 15:14:31.3268]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (207) Current
playtime in block
(https://audio-3.radioparadise.com/blocks/chan/1/4/153479-153482.flac?src=alexa):
0.0
[19-02-02 15:14:31.3287]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (254) Not sure
I'm in the right place - scheduling another update soon
[19-02-02 15:14:31.3322]

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-01-26 Thread philsparks


robanglin wrote: 
> Thanks Michael, appreciate any help or insight you can provide. I have
> noticed the song duration phenomenon you describe as well, no idea if
> it's related to the skipping/track ending prematurely piece, which for
> me happens nearly constantly--by which I mean almost every other song.
> On rare occasions I can get through a 15 min block uninterrupted, but
> almost always happens during the 2nd or 3 track of a block.
> 
> I am happy to assist in helping to troubleshoot this issue in any way I
> can--just let me know; thanks again.
> 
> Rob

Hi - as you note, I've had this issue pretty much since the beginning of
RP on Flac and never been able to solve it.  I have LMS on a WHS-2011
server along with all my music and videos.  It's always fully up to
date.  It's always been pretty much unusable, I get the skipping thing
every few songs, it's such a shame as the Flac stream is noticeable
better than the the 320mb/s stream (I have a Chord Mojo dac on the
kitchen system and a Teddy Pardo dac on the main rig).

About a year ago I got so fed up with it that I bought a R-Pi3 and
installed LMS on it.  It was a bit of a fiddle to point it towards all
my music on the server.  I uninstalled LMS from the server.  It was
definitely a bit better, but still did the skipping thing.  Maybe it
skipped every 5 or songs rather than every 2 or 3.  This would imply
that it's something odd about my network, but if that's the case it is
ONLY Radio Paridse on the LMS that has an issue, everything else, BBC
iPlayer etc works fine. 

I guess I should have done some more exhausive testing, e.g. turn off
the server and anything else on the network and use the R-Pi server in
stand alone mode.  But ... I just gave up, went back to LMS on the
server and stick to 320mb/s.  

If I use the Radio Paradise webplayer on either a phone or PC plugged
straight into a dac it works perfectly.  Doing that right now and it's
been going for approx 2 hours perfectly.  

Just weird.
Hope this helps track it down.  Michael I can't believe you do all this
hard stuff for moaning minnies like us!!

cheers
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-01-21 Thread robanglin


mherger wrote: 
> Last week I did listen to the lossless stream a little more carefully.
> And I could indeed notice a few glitches as described before: track
> ending prematurely, skipping to new track etc. It didn't happen often,
> but it clearly did. What I did notice was that the song duration seems
> to sometimes get confused. Eg. the progress bar would have reached the
> end despite it claiming to have several minutes of playback left.
> Unfortunately I haven't been able to reproduce it other than just
> listening to the stream for hours... which isn't very helpful. But I'll
> try to figure out what this is about.

Thanks Michael, appreciate any help or insight you can provide. I have
noticed the song duration phenomenon you describe as well, no idea if
it's related to the skipping/track ending prematurely piece, which for
me happens nearly constantly--by which I mean almost every other song.
On rare occasions I can get through a 15 min block uninterrupted, but
almost always happens during the 2nd or 3 track of a block.

I am happy to assist in helping to troubleshoot this issue in any way I
can--just let me know; thanks again.

Rob



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-01-21 Thread Raymond Woodward


Yep, its obviously an intermittent fault whichever end of the chain its
at [LMS or RP].

As such it will be a pain in the butt to find :(



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-01-20 Thread mherger


Last week I did listen to the lossless stream a little more carefully.
And I could indeed notice a few glitches as described before: track
ending prematurely, skipping to new track etc. It didn't happen often,
but it clearly did. What I did notice was that the song duration seems
to sometimes get confused. Eg. the progress bar would have reached the
end despite it claiming to have several minutes of playback left.
Unfortunately I haven't been able to reproduce it other than just
listening to the stream for hours... which isn't very helpful. But I'll
try to figure out what this is about.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-01-20 Thread robanglin


ntom wrote: 
> Seeing similar behaviour here.
> 
> Running 7.9.2 on Windows 10 Home.  Currently just Squeezelite + SB3. 
> Using Music Info screen when playing music & this behaviour seen on SB3.
> Connected by ethernet gigabit with good stable internet connection.  
> 
> Stops & shows rebuffering. Sometimes comes back after a few seconds or
> when the next announcement comes on.  Log file showing dozens of similar
> entries as follows:
> 
> [19-01-11 20:12:09.9538]
> Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (194) Returning
> cached metadata

So I just did some pretty extensive reading of this forum going back 1+
year, it seems that this track skipping/ending prematurely is present
for quite a few people who are running LMS on Windows machines (e.g.,
users Furry, philsparks, etc.). I just spent some time rebuilding my
windows machine from scratch (needed to do so anyway for unrelated
reasons). It is a Win 10 Pro machine dedicated to running LMS and
nothing else. I have tried disabling ALL plugins (except for RP of
course), turning off various other devices on my network, etc. The
behavior persists.

The crazy thing is that it used to work flawlessly until about a month
ago; issue started around Christmas time, and at first I didn't pay too
much attention--figured it was a problem on the RP side and Bill would
fix after the holidays. Clearly not the case. I've been racking my
brains trying to figure out what may have changed--no joy.

I have tried turning logging for the RP plugin to Debug, seeing a lot of
entries such as:

[19-01-20 18:43:18.8010]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (198) Refreshing
metadata
[19-01-20 18:43:18.8012]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (207) Current
playtime in block
(https://audio-3.radioparadise.com/blocks/chan/0/4/1800413-1800417.flac?src=alexa):
0.0
[19-01-20 18:43:18.8013]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (254) Not sure
I'm in the right place - scheduling another update soon
[19-01-20 18:43:27.9505]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (198) Refreshing
metadata
[19-01-20 18:43:27.9506]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (207) Current
playtime in block
(https://audio-3.radioparadise.com/blocks/chan/0/4/5006460.flac?src=alexa):
0.4
[19-01-20 18:43:27.9509]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (198) Refreshing
metadata
[19-01-20 18:43:27.9511]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (207) Current
playtime in block
(https://audio-3.radioparadise.com/blocks/chan/0/4/5006460.flac?src=alexa):
0.4
[19-01-20 18:43:27.9518]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (198) Refreshing
metadata
[19-01-20 18:43:27.9520]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (207) Current
playtime in block
(https://audio-3.radioparadise.com/blocks/chan/0/4/5006460.flac?src=alexa):
0.4
[19-01-20 18:43:27.9522]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (198) Refreshing
metadata
[19-01-20 18:43:27.9523]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (207) Current
playtime in block
(https://audio-3.radioparadise.com/blocks/chan/0/4/5006460.flac?src=alexa):
0.4
[19-01-20 18:43:37.0482]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getNextTrack (112) Fetching new
block of events:
https://api.radioparadise.com/api/get_block?bitrate=4=0=true=alexa=1800418

Immediately after fetching new block, start seeing this:
[19-01-20 18:43:37.6638]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (198) Refreshing
metadata
[19-01-20 18:43:37.6640]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (207) Current
playtime in block
(https://audio-3.radioparadise.com/blocks/chan/0/4/5006460.flac?src=alexa):
0.0
[19-01-20 18:43:37.6641]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (258) Scheduling
an update for the end of this song: 228
[19-01-20 18:43:37.6647]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (198) Refreshing
metadata
[19-01-20 18:43:37.6648]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (207) Current
playtime in block
(https://audio-3.radioparadise.com/blocks/chan/0/4/5006460.flac?src=alexa):
0.0
[19-01-20 18:43:37.6650]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (258) Scheduling
an update for the end of this song: 228
[19-01-20 18:43:37.9558]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (198) Refreshing
metadata
[19-01-20 18:43:37.9560]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (207) Current
playtime in block
(https://audio-3.radioparadise.com/blocks/chan/0/4/5006460.flac?src=alexa):
0.0
[19-01-20 18:43:37.9562]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (258) Scheduling
an update for the end of this song: 228
[19-01-20 18:43:37.9567]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (198) Refreshing
metadata
[19-01-20 18:43:37.9569]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (207) Current
playtime 

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-01-13 Thread Tony T

Just noticed the alternative RP channels (Rock, Mellow, Groovy).
Not sure how long it's been available, since I listen to RP with a
pre-set button, but….
Groovy!



Tony
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-01-12 Thread left channel


I finally had the RP stream die on me once today. I was playing it
through Squeezelite-X on Win 10 and had to restart the app to clear up
whatever confusion was going on in there, as the play button was not
responding. Also just now a 20 minute block ended abruptly mid-song, and
a new block started with Rebecca's announcement followed by a new track.


I suspect those are problems at RP, unrelated to the reports above. I
have experienced have been a few similar glitches before, but so rarely
I can't remember what they were. I play RP a lot, include an hour in the
media room last night, and most of the day at my desk at least a couple
days this week.



LMS: SGC microJukebox 
Control apps: Squeezelite-X on Win, Squeezer or Material web app on
Android
Players: Duet, Touch (two), Mac SqueezePlay, Win Squeezelite-X on laptop
and HTPC

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-01-12 Thread robanglin


ntom wrote: 
> Seeing similar behaviour here.
> 
> Running 7.9.2 on Windows 10 Home.  Currently just Squeezelite + SB3. 
> Using Music Info screen when playing music & this behaviour seen on SB3.
> Connected by ethernet gigabit with good stable internet connection.  
> 
> Stops & shows rebuffering. Sometimes comes back after a few seconds or
> when the next announcement comes on.  Log file showing dozens of similar
> entries as follows:
> 
> [19-01-11 20:12:09.9538]
> Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (194) Returning
> cached metadata

Curious what build of Win 10; I went from 1803 to 1809 but issue
persists.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-01-11 Thread ntom


robanglin wrote: 
> Since a few days ago, the FLAC stream is not playing through. Typical
> behavior: 
> * first song plays to completion
> * second song cuts off maybe 1/2 to 3/4 of the way through; this is in
> conjunction with either Bill/Rebecca coming on and doing their
> announcement, or merely a new block starting
> * each 20+ min block never completes (even though progress bar typically
> shows that there is 15+ mins left), but rather cuts off after 2nd song
> and starts new block.
> 
> I think this started 2-3 days ago.
> 
> MP3 streams are fine, and as is the FLAC feed when playing through a
> browser, so I don't think it's on the RP side of things. Anyone else
> experiencing this?
> 
> Would appreciate any tips/pointers for troubleshooting. Have already:
> * restarted server
> * updated LMS to latest
> * disabled and re-enabled the plugin
> 
> System: Win10-64 Pro 1809; (6) SB Touch players. No other issues playing
> either local music or streaming various radio stations.


Seeing similar behaviour here.

Running 7.9.2 on Windows 10 Home.  Currently just Squeezelite + SB3. 
Using Music Info screen when playing music & this behaviour seen on SB3.
Connected by ethernet gigabit with good stable internet connection.  

Stops & shows rebuffering. Sometimes comes back after a few seconds or
when the next announcement comes on.  Log file showing dozens of similar
entries as follows:

[19-01-11 20:12:09.9538]
Plugins::RadioParadise::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (194) Returning
cached metadata



SB Touch (modded)/Perpetual Technologies P1-A / P3-A DAC or
Linn/Ittok/MuseII, Marantz AV 7000 Pre-pro/MF X-Cans V8 Pre, Denon 4400A
monos (x4), Magneplanar MGIIIs or Martin Logan SL3's, Rel Stadium sub
plus surrounds

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2018-12-29 Thread robanglin


mherger wrote: 
> Can you tell me a little more about your setup? How many players do you
> have? What kind of players are these? How many "controllers" (web UI,
> mobile apps etc.)?
> 
> The only odd thing I'm seeing (besides the fact that the last block is
> being fetched too early) is the fact that there seem to be busy times
> where dozens of metadata updates are requested within a few seconds. As
> if there were dozens of controllers active at the same time. This
> shouldn't hurt, but I'm wondering if something external is going rogue
> there, eventually triggering the track change.

Sure thing. 6 Squeeezebox Touch players, all connecting via wireless
bridges (Linksys). I discovered years ago that things ran better if I
offloaded the wireless connectivity to an external device (and I could
at the same time move the traffic to the 5Ghz band). Windows 10-64 bit
server, connecting directly into router via Cat5. Control is via SB
remotes, touch-screen on the devices themselves, and occasionally via
web browser or app (primarily Squeezer and Squeeze Ctrl).

I think I see the metadata request entries in the log you're referring
to. Do you think something like Wireshark on the server might be helpful
to isolate where the requests are coming from, and if so, can you
provide any pointers as to what to look for?

Thanks,

Rob



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2018-12-28 Thread mherger


robanglin wrote: 
> Turned up the log to Debug for the RP plugin. Seeing a lot of
> "Scheduling an update for the end of this song" and also "Not sure I'm
> in the right place - scheduling another update soon"  Don't know what's
> considered normal having never had to look at the log before. Anyway, I
> am attaching the file. Much appreciate any help you can provide.

Can you tell me a little more about your setup? How many players do you
have? What kind of players are these? How many "controllers" (web UI,
mobile apps etc.)?

The only odd thing I'm seeing (besides the fact that the last block is
being fetched too early) is the fact that there seem to be busy times
where dozens of metadata updates are requested within a few seconds. As
if there were dozens of controllers active at the same time. This
shouldn't hurt, but I'm wondering if something external is going rogue
there, eventually triggering the track change.



Michael

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2018-12-28 Thread robanglin


mherger wrote: 
> > Since a few days ago, the FLAC stream is not playing through. Typical
> > behavior:
> 
> Anything in server.log? Enable logging for plugin.radioparadise.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael
Attempted to reply earlier and uploaded the log file (upped the RP
plugin logging to Debug level), but I got a message that post was being
submitted to moderator, so trying again by posting link to log file
instead. Appreciate any insight you can provide.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1M90pwn29XY-wL8j-g7YMX_ls3pWBjpbx



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2018-12-27 Thread Michael Herger

Since a few days ago, the FLAC stream is not playing through. Typical
behavior:


Anything in server.log? Enable logging for plugin.radioparadise.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2018-12-27 Thread left channel


Wow. Not seeing that behavior here @robanglin. I've been playing the RP
FLAC streams for hours each day over the past week with no issues.



LMS: SGC microJukebox 
Control apps: Squeezer or Material web app on Android, Squeezelite-X on
Win
Players: Duet, Touch (two), Mac SqueezePlay, Win Squeezelite-X on laptop
and HTPC

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2018-12-27 Thread robanglin


Since a few days ago, the FLAC stream is not playing through. Typical
behavior: 
* first song plays to completion
* second song cuts off maybe 1/2 to 3/4 of the way through; this is in
conjunction with either Bill/Rebecca coming on and doing their
announcement, or merely a new block starting
* each 20+ min block never completes (even though progress bar typically
shows that there is 15+ mins left), but rather cuts off after 2nd song
and starts new block.

I think this started 2-3 days ago.

MP3 streams are fine, and as is the FLAC feed when playing through a
browser, so I don't think it's on the RP side of things. Anyone else
experiencing this?

Would appreciate any tips/pointers for troubleshooting. Have already:
* restarted server
* updated LMS to latest
* disabled and re-enabled the plugin

System: Win10-64 Pro 1809; (6) SB Touch players. No other issues playing
either local music or streaming various radio stations.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2018-12-04 Thread left channel

Jackisidore wrote: 
> On my setup (Mac Mojave) the RP FLAC streams constantly show rebuffering
> which pauze the audio. 320 streams play normally. I'm the only one with
> rebuffering? If so I plan to reinstall LMS for a fresh start (I don't
> trust my setup after the last Mojave upgrade)

No problems here. LMS on a microJukebox server, Squeezelite-X (with
Material Skin) player on Windows 10.



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SqueezePlay, Win Squeezelite-X • Control apps: Android Squeezer, Win
Squeezelite-X

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2018-12-04 Thread Jackisidore


On my setup (Mac Mojave) the RP FLAC streams constantly show rebuffering
which pauze the audio. 320 streams play normally. I'm the only one with
rebuffering? If so I plan to reinstall LMS for a fresh start (I don't
trust my setup after the last Mojave upgrade)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2018-12-02 Thread Man in a van


It should just carry on with the next chunk.

I don't listen to RP much these days (still supporting them, though).

I'm more un fip homme :cool:



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