Re: [Biofuel] Re: soybeanoil a bad choice for BD making?]

[stephan torak]

I have since spent many hours researching the issue and have found some 
relevant facts here:
www.blt.bmlf.gv.at/vero/veroeff/0100_Technical_performance_of_methyl_esthers_e.pdf 
<#www.blt.bmlf.gv.atveroveroeff0100_Tec>

Keith Addison wrote:


Hello Stephan, Jan and all

I asked Elsbett's Alexander Noack for some comment on what he was 
quoted as saying about soy oil, and got a very brief response from him:



Hi Keith,

this all is nearly correct, but only for direct injection engines.

Mit freundlichen Gr٤en / Best regards

Alexander Noack
ELSBETT Technologie GmbH
Weissenburger Stra§e 15
D-91177 Thalmaessing
Internet: www.elsbett.com
e-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone:  +49 (0)9173 77940
Fax:  +49 (0)9173 77942



This was the quote in question:

"Soybean oil is bad. Whether it is straight vegetable oil or soybean 
based biodiesel. It is a no-go in diesel engines. Why? In diesel 
engines you have slight mixing between fuel and lubricating oil. 
There is a fuel property in soybean oil that makes it reactive when 
in contact with engine lubricating oil. It supposedly has a 
polymerizing action with the engine oil, which is detrimental to the 
life of your lubricating system.


"What they do in Europe is use a vegetable-based lubricating oil for 
the engine to prevent any problems with fuel-lubricating oil 
intimacy. What else? They do not use soybean oil; They use rape seed 
also known as canola."



Best wishes

Keith




Hello Jan


Hello Stephan.
The reason for Elsbett«s people (and several others) for rejecting 
soy bean

oil is its high iodine number. As the case with fish oil, corn oil and
several kinds of sunflower oil. A high iodine number is indicating 
that the
oil may be chemically unstable due to its unsaturation level and 
therefore

unsuitable as engine fuel both as SVO and BD.



In other words, it polymerises - to quote Phillip Calais: "Drying 
results from the double bonds (and sometimes triple bonds) in the 
unsaturated oil molecules being broken by atmospheric oxygen and 
being converted to peroxides. Cross-linking at this site can then 
occur and the oil irreversibly polymerises into a plastic-like solid."
-- From "Waste Vegetable Oil as a Diesel Replacement Fuel" by Phillip 
Calais, Environmental Science, Murdoch University, Perth, Australia, 
and A.R. (Tony) Clark, Western Australian Renewable Fuels Association 
Inc.

http://www.shortcircuit.com.au/warfa/paper/paper.htm

See:
Iodine Values
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_yield.html#iodine

But that's not quite what Elsbett's Alexander Noack is quoted as 
saying at the East Coast Region-United States Elsbett Workshop:


"Soybean oil is bad. Whether it is straight vegetable oil or soybean 
based biodiesel. It is a no-go in diesel engines. Why? In diesel 
engines you have slight mixing between fuel and lubricating oil. 
There is a fuel property in soybean oil that makes it reactive when 
in contact with engine lubricating oil. It supposedly has a 
polymerizing action with the engine oil, which is detrimental to the 
life of your lubricating system.


"What they do in Europe is use a vegetable-based lubricating oil for 
the engine to prevent any problems with fuel-lubricating oil 
intimacy. What else? They do not use soybean oil; They use rape seed 
also known as canola."


So it would seem that Elsbett's reservations are not so much with 
polymerisation per se because of the high iodine number as with 
fuel-lubricating oil interactions.


Can you shed any light on this?

There are some companies producing me from oil with a high iodine 
number,
and there is no practical difference between those products and the 
BD:s

with a iodine number around or under 120 for the consumer.



Can you quote any research that supports the conclusion that there is 
no practical difference? I've heard of drying problems with sunflower 
oil biodiesel, and even with rapeseed oil biodiesel (I don't have the 
reports, I was told they're in German) and I would not want to use 
linseed oil or tung oil.



And may I add that
the American B100 standard allows soy bean oil as raw material.



Of course they do - how much do you think the soy councils and Big 
Soy had to do with that? They were involved at every level. Whatever 
the science may say, do you think it would have been possible for 
them to develop standards that excluded soy?


Similarly, it's often said that the EU standard's stipulating a 
maximum iodine # of 120 (115 in France and Germany, while the US 
standard doesn't stipulate anything) is politically based, intended 
to exclude soy and protect European rapeseed oil production, but is 
that really all there is to it?


If you really wanted to exclude drying problems you'd probably have 
to exclude rapeseed oil as well and stop at castor oil (85), but no 
doubt that would be as politically impossible in Europe as excluding 
soy would be in the US. In both, though less so in Europe perhaps, 
biodiesel and biofuels are still seen more as agric

Re: [Biofuel] Lots of questions

[Darryl McMahon]

"Kenny Dunn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I am sure this will be a highly redundant request to most - sorry.
> 
> I hope to soon be a fellow bio-brewer.  I have been doing a lot of research
> and I am now prepared (mentally anyway) to begin refining test batch equipment
> and procedures.  After I get titration and test batch processing conquered, I
> plan to use the Foolproof method and would like to try to develop a hands-off
> system.  The Supreme Commander requires that this be a low budget operation. 
> That said, the immediate stumbling block is that of a quality affordable
> scale.  Or maybe it's not.  Any recommendations on scales?  

I started with jeweller's scales.  Works OK for small quantities, but finicky.  
They were cheap on ebay (under US$5 plus shipping).  I have since acquired a 
triple 
beam balance scale (Ohaus), also on ebay.  Had to be patient to find a 
reasonable 
deal on one.  Watched several go by where I was outbid.  Still, for the money, 
I 
recommend the Ohaus or similar.  Much wider range of usability, less finicky, 
harder to knock over.
> 
> >From much of the information that I've read, acids and bases and catalysts 
> >are
> generally a hardware store type item for someone just starting out.  Are there
> other sources of these supplies that might reduce cost, packaging wastes and
> trips to the Mega Hardware Hut and can provide these things on a scale
> appropriate for me?

Hardware stores work for me.  Lye comes in various size containers, up to 2 
litres, 
as stock items.  Methanol (methyl hydrate) is sold as a paint thinner, again in 
various sizes, 4 litres is a commonly stocked item.  What scale do you plan to 
operate on?  Methanol can also be acquired in drums - try racing specialty 
shops.  
Drugstores are good for alcohol.  Pool supply stores are a possibility for 
phenolphthalein.  Aquarium supply houses are handy for items like low volume 
pumps 
and pH testers.  Still, I acquired most of my equipment on ebay.  Patience is 
definitely a virtue if you go that route.
> 
> Once you've produced your first *quality* liter of biodiesel, what is your
> test apparatus?  I have contemplated renting a diesel generator for this
> purpose.  Is that a good idea?  Are there other functional tests that can be
> performed prior to subjecting an engine to my fuel?
> 
I just gave my production to a friend who was quite happy to take some free 
fuel, 
fully aware of its pedigree and the research I had done prior to brewing.  No 
issues, but this probably constituted a B10 blend in his tank.  Check the 
biofuel 
archive for more on testing your fuel.

> A bit of background (just a bit) - I live in Lancaster County, PA and would
> like to tour an individual processor if someone is nearby.  I plan to
> eventually replace my heating oil with B100 and also fuel my car with the
> same.  I will be installing a solar hot water heater for DHW and radiant heat
> later this year if anyone is interested in comparing notes for those sorts of
> things.  I have also contemplated solar hot water as my heat source during
> biofuel processing.  Has anyone successfully done this?

I use solar heating for domestic hot water (batch in-line pre-heater) about six 
months of the year (when it doesn't regularly drop below freezing at night).  I 
have not used it for heating the oil.
> 
> Thanks, in advance, for the bandwidth for you time,
> Ken

-- 
Darryl McMahon  http://www.econogics.com/
It's your planet.  If you won't look after it, who will?


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RE: [Biofuel] when will it run out

[Tom Irwin]

Haken and James,

First, Haken my information on oil reserves in the Azerbijan region comes
from a management person high up in Chevron. I will not reveal that person
to you as it might put that person in a bad place. As for oil being present
under the ocean, well that is where it originally got made a billion or more
years ago. Since we have only found most of the stuff on dry land it only
makes sense that more should be found in the ocean depths. True, oil might
only be found at mouths of great rivers but we have little idea what the
land masses looked like a billion years ago let alone what river systems may
have existed. Increasing production capacity is linked to oil prices which
you must have noticed just jumped $20.00 per barrel this past year. Supply
and demand or demand and supply, I'm not sure what drives what in these days
of mass marketing. But you sure as heck can build a lot of production
capacity at the current price of oil.

I still firmly believe it will not be lack of oil that gets us but the
climate change that will disrupt our food and water supplies. Think of this.
All of the glaciers in the Himalayan mountains are receding at an incredible
rate. They could all e gone in less than 20 years. This is in the highest
mountain range in the world that this is occurring. Those glaciers feed at
least seven major river systems. The ones that come to mind most quickly are
the Indus, Brahmaputra, Salween, Mekong, Ganges, Yangtze and Huange He. They
supply drinking water, water for agriculture, and for industry to close to a
billion people directly. When the glaciers that feed these rivers are gone
they will have only annual rainfall and normal snowmelt to feed them. Their
flows to drop to 1/3 of their current values. How in the world are those
folks going to survive? I have no answer. I don't think anyone does. I don't
believe enough people are even remotely aware of the problem. Be sure to
realize that it will not only effect them. It will effect everyone
indirectly in terms of economy, disease, and even warfare. You don't think
China just increased its military budget cause they were having a bad day?
The dino fuels are the cause of a massive problem with enormous consequences
not just for certain countries but for for our entire species. Ironically
these dino fuels may cause our extiction.

Tom Irwin  

-Original Message-
From: James Dontje
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 3/30/05 9:15 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] when will it run out

Tom and Hakan--

I was reminded recently of the power of compounding.  At linear rates,
if we 
have 100 units of oil and use it one unit per year, we can last 100
years. 
But if our usage grows five percent per year, we will run out in year
37.

Every industrialized economy is built on the hope of perpetual growth. 
While the proportion changes as we gain efficiency, energy use tracks
that 
growth.  Hence, the compounding of growth is always shortening our
horizon 
even as efficiency and new discoveries lengthen it.

The problem, however, isn't running out.  It is our collective reactions
as 
we see the horizon get close.  The recent postings on this list are 
describing a "great game" that is based on the powerful's reactions to a

close horizon--a reaction based not simply on how to protect the future,
but 
on how to protect the future and their own power in that future.

Jim
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 04:58:44 +0200
From: Hakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Mapping The Oil Motive
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Tom,

You are in the best case right, but I think that the crises is less
than one generation (20 years) away. The statement you make
have no support in known facts, especially since the usage growth
rate seems to be grossly underestimated. The reserves from the
Oil companies has already been proven to be over estimated,
with almost a third for Shell only.

Hakan



At 09:59 PM 3/29/2005, you wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>I am an environmental scientist by education and my latest research is
on
>sustainable development. As near as I can tell there is no shortage of
oil.
>There may be shortages of production, shortages of distribution but for
at
>least another generation there will be no shortage of oil due to lack
of
>material. Here is the key reasoning. We still have not tapped all the
>available reserves on land. All the Gulf war stuff is about
underdeveloped
>Iraqi oil and the as yet untouched and shallow (read highly profitable)
oil
>in the Azerbijan region. Oil is produced under oceans. Although we have
>found most of the terrestrial based oil, it represents only 1/8 the
planets
>surface area. That leaves 7/8 of the planet where we have hardly begun
the
>search for new sources. A recent National Geographic article displayed
new
>technology that was enabling drilling off the continental shelf in
water
>1500 feet deep. Now oil from that depth won't be cheap but it st

Re: [Biofuel] Crush Corporate Crime (BP)

[AntiFossil]

Hello all,

Here is an article, published by the "Galveston Daily News", that goes
a little bit more in depth as to what the current "best guess"
scenario is regarding the explosion at the bp/amoco plant, Texas
City/Texas.  One of the more disgusting things that I can report first
hand, having just returned home from there myself, Tuesday morning, is
that according to several friends of mine who still work for bp/amoco
(btw - they all refer to the company as amoco, I don't remember ever
hearing "bp" unless it was on the radio, or T.V.)  from the instant
this explosion occured, right through to whatever time you happen to
be reading this post the rest of the refinery has been in full
operation the entire time.  One percentage I heard mentioned, which I
have no way of personally verifying, was over 90%.  That makes me
physically ill.  I realize that it's the DoE that's pushing these
production numbers, but when your plant just rocked the richter scale
in a part of the country that is not known for
earthquakes...ever...doesn't it make sense to back off and check more
than just the blast zone so that we aren't burying people here again
sometime soon.

Antifossil 

ISOM unit component focus of investigation
By TJ Aulds
The Daily News  

Published March 27, 2005
TEXAS CITY — Investigators with the U.S. Chemical Safety and Hazard
Investigation Board continued their on-scene inspection Saturday of
what remains of the BP isomerization unit that exploded Wednesday,
killing 15 and injuring more than 100.

The independent federal agency charged with investigating industrial
chemical accidents is now focusing its attention on a portion of the
unit called a raffinate splitter.

The splitter is a key component allowing for feedstock — the chemicals
that are to processed in the octane-boosting unit — to be fed into the
isomerization unit.

The isomerization unit converts the feedstock chemicals pentane and
hexane into isopentane and isohexane to boost the octane rating of
gasoline. Pentane and hexane are both highly flammable.

"Preliminary evidence points to a release of flammable liquid and
vapor in that area of the plant," the CSB said via a press release
late Saturday. "The distillation equipment was being restarted
following maintenance work on the reactor a few days earlier."

The board is also looking closely at the placement of a pair of
trailers near the unit. Many of those killed in the blast were
attending a meeting in those trailers at the time.

Steve Selk, the manager of the CSB investigation, noted that unlike
permanent buildings such as control rooms found throughout the plant,
the trailers' inability to protect against flames and high heat was
evident.

"Process equipment within the explosion site shows substantial thermal
damage and limited blast damage, consistent with a flash fire of
flammable hydrocarbon in the open atmosphere," said Selk. "Trailers
adjacent to the isomerization unit were very heavily damaged or
destroyed. The walls and roof of an adjacent metal warehouse used to
store catalyst were heavily damaged as well."

Those trailers will be a factor of the investigation, a top CSB official added.

"The placement of the trailers in close proximity to an operating
refinery unit is one factor we will be focusing on as the
investigation proceeds." CSB board member John Bresland said.

He said the team would also be looking into company reports of a small
fire in the isomerization unit the day before, but said there was not
presently any evidence to link the fire with the explosion Wednesday
afternoon.

Three days after the fatal blast however, investigators had not yet
reached the blast zone. CSB spokesman Sandy Gilmour said final site
safety arrangements took place Saturday afternoon, in preparation for
entry using protective clothing and gear.

CSB team members have inspected the perimeter of the blast area.
Investigators have also interviewed more of the plant operators who
were on duty at the time of accident Gilmour said.

Investigators also inspected homes near the refinery that sustained
damage as a result of the blast.

Gilmour said the investigators will take the Easter Sunday holiday off
as they prepare for additional investigators to arrive Monday.

<>
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Re: [Biofuel] The Long Emergency -- cross posted

[Michael Redler]

Hi everyone,
 
I Chair the New Haven, CT section of the American Society of Mechanical 
Engineers and set up a Yahoo! Group to promote discussion on various technical 
subjects.
 
I posted the Rolling Stone article from Kieth (I think it was you Kieth) to see 
the reaction and wanted to say that this is the dialog I've been getting 
involved in regularly among people less active in the cause.
 
My reason for posting this is to find out how some of you might respond in a 
similar discussion and if you have any comments about any of my responses.
 
By the way, the resources I mention below were cut-off. But they came from the 
Biofuel group anyway. So, you should already be aware of them. 
 
Mike R
 
Posted on NHASME04 today:

Hi Tracy,
 
Well, I think we've agreed on most of what had been said in this thread so far. 
The rest I think we can agree to disagree.
 
"We may be running out of oil.  However, I think drilling in Alaska is more 
about laziness, politics and some guy who has political connections for it to 
get this far."
 
In my opinion, a lazy person who wants oil would stay in Texas and just punch 
another hole next to the one they already have. As for Politics and political 
connections, I'm right behind you on that one.
 
"The reason why we don't have more wind power is political
not technical or environmental or financial."

Political/Technical/Environmental/Financial:

These issues are not mutually exclusive. Some emerging energy technologies are 
not competitive (or profitable) compared with fossil fuels today, so private 
industry in the US has kept their distance. The public in the US has not 
adopted an environmentally conscious position like other industrialized 
countries in Europe (the US is only 4% of the worlds population but, uses 25% 
of the worlds energy). So, there is comparatively less political motivation to 
subsidize the development of these emerging technologies. I feel that this 
cycle will continue until other countries that are more progressive than ours, 
make advancements that make alternative energy technologies like PV cost 
effective and the US, in its nearsighted business vision, decides to play 
catch-up.

I have no doubt that if there is no change in this trend, the US will lag 
behind in these technologies and other countries will offer superior products. 
This is assuming that our government doesn't make a unilateral decision to 
exploit foreign intellectual property and ignore international law (wouldn't 
that be a shocker).

Mike 

"Tracy J." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
We may be running out of oil.  However, I think drilling in Alaska is more
about laziness, politics and some guy who has political connections for it
to get this far.  The reason why we don't have more wind power is political
not technical or environmental or financial.  The political guys put up the
money.  If the political guys didn't want to go to the moon for any reason,
the money never would have been there to do it.  It would be nice if
diagonstic research was done on the subject that is trustworthy but there is
alot of money to be made if there is a shortage.

Tracy
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [nhasme04] The Long Emergency


> Hi Tracy,
>
> I think that your ideas about conservation and more sophisticated controls
for home appliances are good ones. Your comment about price manipulation has
merit as well. However, I think it's dangerous for people to believe that
there is plenty of oil and that it simply isn't being tapped. The fact that
we are going back into Alaska and exploring other regions for oil sends a
message about availability. In fact, there have been numerous studies to
support the argument that sustainability ended in the late eighties. Up
until that time the world's oil producers were able to replace every spent
well with a new one.
>
> Here are some resources that support the argument that scientists and
government agencies around the world clearly recognize the coming shortage
and eventually the end of oil as our main source of energy in the world.

> Michael Redler



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[Biofuel] Re: soybeanoil a bad choice for BD making?]

[Keith Addison]

I asked Elsbett's Alexander Noack for some comment on what he was 
quoted as saying about soy oil, and got a very brief response from 
him:



Hi Keith,

this all is nearly correct, but only for direct injection engines.

Mit freundlichen Gr٤en / Best regards

Alexander Noack
ELSBETT Technologie GmbH
Weissenburger Stra§e 15
D-91177 Thalmaessing
Internet: www.elsbett.com
e-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone:  +49 (0)9173 77940
Fax:  +49 (0)9173 77942


This was the quote in question:

"Soybean oil is bad. Whether it is straight vegetable oil or soybean 
based biodiesel. It is a no-go in diesel engines. Why? In diesel 
engines you have slight mixing between fuel and lubricating oil. 
There is a fuel property in soybean oil that makes it reactive when 
in contact with engine lubricating oil. It supposedly has a 
polymerizing action with the engine oil, which is detrimental to the 
life of your lubricating system.


"What they do in Europe is use a vegetable-based lubricating oil for 
the engine to prevent any problems with fuel-lubricating oil 
intimacy. What else? They do not use soybean oil; They use rape seed 
also known as canola."


Best wishes

Keith




Hello Jan


Hello Stephan.
The reason for Elsbett«s people (and several others) for rejecting soy bean
oil is its high iodine number. As the case with fish oil, corn oil and
several kinds of sunflower oil. A high iodine number is indicating that the
oil may be chemically unstable due to its unsaturation level and therefore
unsuitable as engine fuel both as SVO and BD.


In other words, it polymerises - to quote Phillip Calais: "Drying 
results from the double bonds (and sometimes triple bonds) in the 
unsaturated oil molecules being broken by atmospheric oxygen and 
being converted to peroxides. Cross-linking at this site can then 
occur and the oil irreversibly polymerises into a plastic-like 
solid."
-- From "Waste Vegetable Oil as a Diesel Replacement Fuel" by 
Phillip Calais, Environmental Science, Murdoch University, Perth, 
Australia, and A.R. (Tony) Clark, Western Australian Renewable Fuels 
Association Inc.

http://www.shortcircuit.com.au/warfa/paper/paper.htm

See:
Iodine Values
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_yield.html#iodine

But that's not quite what Elsbett's Alexander Noack is quoted as 
saying at the East Coast Region-United States Elsbett Workshop:


"Soybean oil is bad. Whether it is straight vegetable oil or soybean 
based biodiesel. It is a no-go in diesel engines. Why? In diesel 
engines you have slight mixing between fuel and lubricating oil. 
There is a fuel property in soybean oil that makes it reactive when 
in contact with engine lubricating oil. It supposedly has a 
polymerizing action with the engine oil, which is detrimental to the 
life of your lubricating system.


"What they do in Europe is use a vegetable-based lubricating oil for 
the engine to prevent any problems with fuel-lubricating oil 
intimacy. What else? They do not use soybean oil; They use rape seed 
also known as canola."


So it would seem that Elsbett's reservations are not so much with 
polymerisation per se because of the high iodine number as with 
fuel-lubricating oil interactions.


Can you shed any light on this?


There are some companies producing me from oil with a high iodine number,
and there is no practical difference between those products and the BD:s
with a iodine number around or under 120 for the consumer.


Can you quote any research that supports the conclusion that there 
is no practical difference? I've heard of drying problems with 
sunflower oil biodiesel, and even with rapeseed oil biodiesel (I 
don't have the reports, I was told they're in German) and I would 
not want to use linseed oil or tung oil.



And may I add that
the American B100 standard allows soy bean oil as raw material.


Of course they do - how much do you think the soy councils and Big 
Soy had to do with that? They were involved at every level. Whatever 
the science may say, do you think it would have been possible for 
them to develop standards that excluded soy?


Similarly, it's often said that the EU standard's stipulating a 
maximum iodine # of 120 (115 in France and Germany, while the US 
standard doesn't stipulate anything) is politically based, intended 
to exclude soy and protect European rapeseed oil production, but is 
that really all there is to it?


If you really wanted to exclude drying problems you'd probably have 
to exclude rapeseed oil as well and stop at castor oil (85), but no 
doubt that would be as politically impossible in Europe as excluding 
soy would be in the US. In both, though less so in Europe perhaps, 
biodiesel and biofuels are still seen more as agricultural 
commodities issues than as energy issues.


There is a whole side to this that is not to be trusted. In the US, 
it might not be a clever thing to do career-wise for a researcher to 
start investigating polymerising problems with soy biodiesel. 
Quality checks of commerc

Re: re erucic acid in rapeseed oil, also re snake oil, WAS Re: [Biofuel] Re:FOOD vS FUEL

[Keith Addison]

Very interesting, thanks very much for taking the trouble.


Hello to Kirk and List,
The following is some further information that I think is worth 
considering.   I have not heard of any contradictory information to 
this since the book was first published.
It took awhile to get written permission from the publisher to 
extract two entire chapters from the book, then it took me another 
while to get them typed


Typed?! Yikes - you need a scanner!

and cobbled together to send to the list.  My apologies for not 
getting this done in a more timely manner.


Never mind, we're all still here. :-)

Except Kirk, actually, who's away right now, but I'll send it to him 
to make sure he sees it.


Thanks again.

Keith



Thank you,
Joanne


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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Re:FOOD vS FUEL

>>snip

> Chickens fed rapeseed and calves given rapeseed oil do not prosper.
> Rapeseed oil naturally contains a high percentage (30-60%) of erucic acid,
> a substance associated with heart lesions in laboratory animals. For this
> reason rapeseed oil was not used for consumption in the United States
> prior to 1974, although it was used in other countries. (Americans chose
> to use it as a lubricant to maintain Allied naval and merchant ships
> during World War II.)
> In 1974, rapeseed varieties with a low erucic content were introduced.
> Scientists had found a way to replace almost all of rapeseed's erucic acid
> with oleic acid, a type of monounsaturated fatty acid. (This change was
> accomplished through the cross-breeding of plants, not by the techniques
> commonly referred to as "genetic engineering.") By 1978, all Canadian
> rapeseed produced for food use contained less than 2% erucic acid. The
> Canadian seed oil industry rechristened the product "canola oil" (Canadian
> oil) in 1978 in an attempt to distance the product from negative
> associations with the word "rape."
>
> Why ingest any erucic acid? Economics as usual. As for me and my family we
> minimize the use of Canada Oil except as motor fuel.

>>end snip



[From the book Fats that Heal Fats that Kill by Udo Erasmus, with 
permission from Alive Publishing Group Inc., Canada. www.alive.com]


"Fats that Heal, Fats that Kill" by Udo Erasmus
Copyright 1986, 1993
Second Edition, Fifteenth Printing - May 2004

Chapter 20  Erucic Acid: Toxic or Beneficial?
Chapter 56  Snake Oil (EPA) and Patent Medicines




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[Biofuel] Lots of questions

[Kenny Dunn]

Hi all,

I am sure this will be a highly redundant request to most - sorry.

I hope to soon be a fellow bio-brewer.  I have been doing a lot of research
and I am now prepared (mentally anyway) to begin refining test batch equipment
and procedures.  After I get titration and test batch processing conquered, I
plan to use the Foolproof method and would like to try to develop a hands-off
system.  The Supreme Commander requires that this be a low budget operation. 
That said, the immediate stumbling block is that of a quality affordable
scale.  Or maybe it's not.  Any recommendations on scales?  

>From much of the information that I've read, acids and bases and catalysts are
generally a hardware store type item for someone just starting out.  Are there
other sources of these supplies that might reduce cost, packaging wastes and
trips to the Mega Hardware Hut and can provide these things on a scale
appropriate for me?

Once you've produced your first *quality* liter of biodiesel, what is your
test apparatus?  I have contemplated renting a diesel generator for this
purpose.  Is that a good idea?  Are there other functional tests that can be
performed prior to subjecting an engine to my fuel?

A bit of background (just a bit) - I live in Lancaster County, PA and would
like to tour an individual processor if someone is nearby.  I plan to
eventually replace my heating oil with B100 and also fuel my car with the
same.  I will be installing a solar hot water heater for DHW and radiant heat
later this year if anyone is interested in comparing notes for those sorts of
things.  I have also contemplated solar hot water as my heat source during
biofuel processing.  Has anyone successfully done this?

Thanks, in advance, for the bandwidth for you time,
Ken
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[Biofuel] Pump Help

[Evan Franklin]

Hey All,

I have three different well pumps, there about 1 hp each, can I pump b100 and 
WVO through them or is there an explosion hazard there?

much thanks for any imput

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RE: [Biofuel] The Energy Crunch To Come

[Tom Irwin]

Hi all,

In case you didn't catch this from Rueters via CNN. Also let me know if I
shouldn't report things this way. I'm new here.

Tom


Report: Earth's ecosystem at risk
Wednesday, March 30, 2005 Posted: 10:21 AM EST (1521 GMT) 


OSLO, Norway (Reuters) -- Humans are damaging the planet at an unprecedented
rate and raising risks of abrupt collapses in nature that could spur
disease, deforestation or "dead zones" in the seas, an international report
said on Wednesday.

The study, by 1,360 experts in 95 nations, said a rising human population
had polluted or over-exploited two thirds of the ecological systems on which
life depends, ranging from clean air to fresh water, in the past 50 years.

"At the heart of this assessment is a stark warning," said the 45-member
board of the Millennium Ecosystem Assessment.

"Human activity is putting such strain on the natural functions of Earth
that the ability of the planet's ecosystems to sustain future generations
can no longer be taken for granted," it said.

Ten to 30 percent of mammal, bird and amphibian species were already
threatened with extinction, according to the assessment, the biggest review
of the planet's life support systems.

"Over the past 50 years, humans have changed ecosystems more rapidly and
extensively than in any comparable time in human history, largely to meet
rapidly growing demands for food, fresh water, timber, fibre and fuel," the
report said.

"This has resulted in a substantial and largely irreversible loss in the
diversity of life on earth," it added. More land was changed to cropland
since 1945, for instance, than in the 18th and 19th centuries combined.

Getting worse
"The harmful consequences of this degradation could grow significantly worse
in the next 50 years," it said. The report was compiled by experts,
including from U.N. agencies and international scientific and development
organizations.

U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan said the study "shows how human activities
are causing environmental damage on a massive scale throughout the world,
and how biodiversity -- the very basis for life on earth -- is declining at
an alarming rate."

The report said there was evidence that strains on nature could trigger
abrupt changes like the collapse of cod fisheries off Newfoundland in Canada
in 1992 after years of over-fishing.

Future changes could bring sudden outbreaks of disease. Warming of the Great
Lakes in Africa due to climate change, for instance, could create conditions
for a spread of cholera.

And a build-up of nitrogen from fertilizers washed off farmland into seas
could spur abrupt blooms of algae that choke fish or create oxygen-depleted
"dead zones" along coasts.

It said deforestation often led to less rainfall. And at some point, lack of
rain could suddenly undermine growing conditions for remaining forests in a
region.

The report said that in 100 years, global warming widely blamed on burning
of fossil fuels in cars, factories and power plants, might take over as the
main source of damage. The report mainly looks at other, shorter-term risks.

And it estimated that many ecosystems were worth more if used in a way that
maintains them for future generations.

A wetland in Canada was worth $6,000 a hectare (2.47 acres), as a habitat
for animals and plants, a filter for pollution, a store for water and a site
for human recreation, against $2,000 if converted to farmland, it said. A
Thai mangrove was worth $1,000 a hectare against $200 as a shrimp farm.

"Ecosystems and the services they provide are financially significant
and...to degrade and damage them is tantamount to economic suicide," said
Klaus Toepfer, head of the U.N. Environment Program.

The study urged changes in consumption, better education, new technology and
higher prices for exploiting ecosystems.

"Governments should recognize that natural services have costs," A.H. Zakri
of the U.N. University and a co-chair of the report told Reuters.
"Protection of natural services is unlikely to be a priority for those who
see them as free and limitless."

 

-Original Message-
From: DHAJOGLO
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 3/30/05 12:42 PM
Subject: re: [Biofuel] The Energy Crunch To Come

>http://www.motherjones.com/news/dailymojo/2005/03/energy_crunch.html
>
>March 22, 2005
>
>The Energy Crunch To Come
>
>By Michael T. Klare
>
>Data released annually at this time by the major oil companies on
>their prior-year performances rarely generates much interest outside
>the business world. With oil prices at an all-time high and Big Oil
>reporting record profits, however, this year has been exceptional.
>Many media outlets covered the announcement of mammoth profits
>garnered by ExxonMobil, the nation's wealthiest public corporation,
>and other large firms. Exxon's fourth-quarter earnings, at $8.42
>billion, represented the highest quarterly income ever reported by an
>American firm.
>


Am I missing something?  If prices for a raw input go up then the sale
price also 

RE: [Biofuel] liquid glycerine

[Tom Irwin]

Hi,

Great information for me working away in the lab. Keep it coming. I'm still
trying to come to terms with methanol ( cheap, easy but oh so toxic) and
ethanol ( expensive, density separation problems, need for excess as a
reactant but great for making products with the glycerine and the
occassional party). Any thoughts here?

Tom Irwin


-Original Message-
From: Appal Energy
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 3/30/05 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] liquid glycerine

Jan & Paul,

> It seems to me that you produced some soap that time.

All base processing creates soap.

What everyone keeps referring to as "glycerine" settling out of a 
transesterification (base) reaction is for the most part soap, diluted
with 
methanol and glycerol.

The volume of glycerol per liter of oil processed is ~7.9% (~79
mililiters). 
The excess alcohol present in this layer (glycerin cocktail) is ~65ml
when 
initially using 200 ml per liter. The balance is soap.

Different oil and fat feedstocks produce different types of soap. If
your 
feestock was primarily soybean oil on Monday but coconut oil on Tuesday,
the 
latter would in general yield a more solid glyc cocktail. If the
feedstocks 
were soybean oil on both days but Tuesday's was extremely degraded (high

FFA) then the latter would yield a harder glyc cocktail. If the
feedstock on 
Monday had less animal fat in it than that on Tuesday the latter would 
generally yield a harder or more viscous glyc cocktail.

The same happens when using different catalysts. In soap making sodium 
hydroxide (lye) is used to produce bar soaps (hard) and potassium
hydroxide 
is used to produce liquid soaps (solid like thick bread dough but more 
soluble). When using potassium hydroxide the glyc cocktail generally
never 
thickens beyond that of maple syrup.

Hardened or thinned glyc cocktails don't necessarily indicate "mistakes"
or 
"correctness" in processing.

Todd Swearingen

- Original Message - 
From: "Jan Warnqvist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 3:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] liquid glycerine


> Hello Paul.
> It seems to me that you produced some soap that time. Did you measure
the
> FFA content before starting ?
> Best regards
> Jan Warnqvist
> AGERATEC AB
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> + 46 554 201 89
> +46 70 499 38 45
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Paul Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 1:00 AM
> Subject: [Biofuel] liquid glycerine
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've been making Biodiesel (BD) for a few months, now.. using the
Mike
>> Pelly method.. and a curious thing happened with the last batch (my
> batches
>> are in approx. 160 - 180 litres).. the glycerine was liquid after the
>> reaction. This is the first time this has occurred for me, all other 
>> times
>> the glycerine formed and settle in my tank, and was solid at low
>> temperatures.
>>
>> I had measured accurately, the quantities of methanol, caustic soda
and
>> volume of oil...( I had an interested observer, who can testify if
>> required!! :-)  ) I watched the colour of the mixture change, as I
was
>> agitating, from a light caramel colour to a dark molasses colour...
then
>> observed the glycerine start to settle, as expected. At this time the
>> glycerine was quite warm, so was still liquid, however, I let the
mixture
>> settle for a 2 week period and the glycerine has not set firm. maybe
I
>> should not complain.. 'cos it was easy to drain out of the tank! :-)
>>
>> Did the reaction not go far enough?  Any further ideas on what has
>> happened??
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Paul.
>> ---
>> Paul Tanner
>> Software IT Architect
>> Melbourne, Australia
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Re: [Biofuel] Bio Willie

[Scott]

OK, point made!


The main reason I posted was regarding Bio Willie.  Interesting, I'm now
seeing clips about Willie Nelson and his bus on CNN.  It's getting more into
the mainstream consciousness that we are not going to survive the next
millenia on dinosaur fuel.  Or that we cannot allow ourselves to be held
hostage to the Saudi's cash-flow in the shorter term.  I really believe that
hemp is a part of the overall answer.

So much for Newman, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for his machine to be
on sale at Harbor Freight.  I had recieved notice of Newman's "press
conference" and added that to the bottom of the post, but that was not my
main intent.  It was an afterthought.

My grandfather was a crazy inventor, too, and modified his 1939 Hudson
automobile to run on hydrogen.  That was in 1947.  So I know that we could
be driving hydrogen cars in 2005.  There's a guy down under that is running
a small 4-cylinder car on similar technology.

That's not what I'm interested in doing at this time.

My immediate course of action is to get a diesel car and I'm going to go
check on a '72 Mercedes 220 later this week.  I figure that will be a good
choice to get started.  There's also an '83 300 on my radar screen.   I
believe it may be better to have an older model without all the computer
controls.  Comments?

I'm also in the market for a diesel pusher or motorcoach suitable for RV
conversion.

I have a question.  Is it better to have MUI injectors or DDEC in a veggie
diesel bus?  Again, I think it might be better without computer controls.  I
can't afford a conversion like Willie is driving around  but as a
former yacht builder, I'm confident that I can make an old MCI or GM quite
livable.

PEACE
Scott

- Original Message - 
From: "Kenneth Kron (CEO)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 12:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Bio Willie


>Well I thought I'd do a little research as the National Press Club,
>which does host very distinguished invited speakers very frequently,
>and is an organization that I hold in fairly high esteem.  It turns
>out that the National Press Club does not list any event including any
>Joseph Newman so while he may be hosting his "News Conference" at the
>NPC he is not speaking to the NPC a big difference.  So unless there's
>been some mistake on the press clubs event listing it looks like a
>manufactured grab for legitimacy.
>Keith Addison wrote:
>
>  Hi Bob
>  It's a hardy perennial

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RE: [Biofuel] Set up help

[Gene Chaffin]

I am not aware of a study contradicting their opinion but if you heat wvo to
at least 160F you will see that the viscosity is similar to diesel.  Using
wvo as your primary fuel your payback on your genset will be very short
depending on the daily use.  The payback on my gensets is 3.5 months.  Gene

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Behalf Of WM LUKE MATHISEN
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 6:14 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Set up help


Thanks for you input, I like the idea of capturing the heat and using it.

I did just run into this from "Biomass 2004 Biodiesel handling and use
guidelines" by the DOE enerty Efficiency and Renewable Energy.

"Raw or refined vegetable oil, or recycled greases that have not been
processed into biodiesel, are not biodiesel and should be avoided.  Research
shows that vegetable oil or greases used in CI engines at levels as low as
10% to 20% can cause long-term engine deposits, ring sticking, lube oil
gelling, and other maintenance problems and can reduce engine life.  These
problems are caused mostly by the greater viscosity, or thickness, of the
raw oils (around 40mm 2/s) compared to that of of the diesel fuel for which
the engines and injectors were designed (between 1.3 an d4.1 mm @/s).  To
avoid viscosity-related problems, vegetable oils and other feedstocks are
converted into biodiesel.  Through the process of converting vegetable oil
or greases to biodiesel, we reduce viscosity of the fuel to values similar
to conventional diesel fuel (biodiesel values are typically between 4 and 5
mm 2.s)."

I just paid $4000 for a genset and would like it to last the 20,000 to
50,000 hours it was designed for.  Are there any studies out there that
contradict the DOEs studies?
  - Original Message -
  From: Gene Chaffin
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 03/29/2005 10:45 PM
  Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Set up help


  Jeremy:  I started with an 8KW china diesel which runs at 2000rpm and
  consumed .8 gallons per hour.  I now do not consider these china diesels
  capable of 24/7 operation, eventhough I did get 6,200 hours out of one.  I
  am now using a Detroit 2-71 12 KW genset which consumes 1.1 gallons per
hour
  of wvo.  I have only been using the Detroit genset for two weeks now but I
  do like the fact that it revolves at a slow 1200 rpm and does not have a
  fuel injection pump like most diesel engines.  I don't just produce
  electricity I also use the waste heat from the cooling system as well as
the
  waste heat from the exhaust.  The waste heat is used to heat up the vege
oil
  and warm the water on my fish farm so the little rascals don't go into
  hybernation.  If you make use of all of the parasitic heat available from
  your genset you will have no problem running straight veg oil, I don't
care
  if you live in Alaska.  It freezes where I am and I still had to install a
  swamp cooler to keep the generator room comfortable.  Make use of the
water
  jacket heat and exhaust heat to provide your domestic hot water and heat
  your house.  I have not had any fuel system maladies.  Most of the
problems
  I was experiencing with the China diesels was with the valve train...they
  needed valve jobs every 2000 hours.  My learning curve is rather long at
  this point so don't hesitate to pick my brain as you progress.  I am now
in
  the process of installing a 20 KW Northern Lights genset which has a
similar
  engine to your Isuzu.  It has the Bosh/Kiki fuel injection pump.  I do not
  expect to have any problems with that conversion to wvo.  Good luck. Gene
  Chaffin  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  -Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Behalf Of Jeremy
  Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 7:52 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Set up help


  Luke and Gene,

  Running straight WVO through your genset is great if you life in sunny
  california,  but I would not rely on that in Missoula.  WVO in Missoula
  would require a hefty investment in time and materials to create an
  environment equal to that of california in a shed.  Also, it is very
  difficult to collect WVO oil in freezing temps, or do anything with WVO in
  freezing temps.  I have a 12k isuzu generator that I am hoping to run with
a
  diesel/biofuel mix.  I think the best we could do is Biofuel in the summer
  and a mix in the winter, something greater than 50/50.  I think it would
be
  best to process your fuel in the summer, and store it with diesel for the
  winter.  That would require knowing how much fuel you would need over the
  winter, probably close to a half gallon an hour for you lister petter.

  Gene: could you describe your generator, what load you run, how much fuel
  you burn, how long you run it, how old is it, how often do you maintain
the
  fuel system, any unexpec

[Biofuel] Car, component makers investing in India

[Keith Addison]

March 2005
http://www.dieselnet.com/

Car, component makers investing in India

The growing Indian market continues to attract attention of car and 
components makers. With a population of more than 1 billion, India 
has experienced strong economic growth, exceeding 8% in 2004. The 
automobile market progressed by 68% between 1998 and 2003, reaching 
1,040,000 vehicles in 2004 with a marked preference for small and 
medium segment cars. In the current fiscal year (ending on March 31) 
India's car market grew some 16-17% until February, down from 25- 27% 
last year.


+ Renault starting joint-venture in India

 Renault and India's Mahindra & Mahindra Ltd. have signed a framework 
agreement for setting up a joint venture in India, Mahindra Renault 
Ltd, with Mahindra holding a 51% share and Renault 49%.


 The agreement provides for the manufacture and sale of Renault Logan 
in the Indian market from 2007. The estimated project amount will be 
€125 million for a production capacity of 50,000 cars per year. Logan 
will be marketed under the brand of Mahindra Renault.


	http://www.media.renault.com//data/doc/mediarenaultcom/en/9307_CP_Ind 
e_21_mars_GB_8h12.pdf



+ Bosch expanding common-rail manufacturing

 Bosch sees future growth opportunities in India with high-pressure 
diesel injection technology. Between 2004 and 2007, the Bosch Group 
plans to invest some €180 million (INR 10 billion). Of that amount, 
some €100 million (or INR 5.5 billion) has been earmarked for the 
establishment of manufacturing, development, and applications 
facilities for common-rail direct injection systems in Bangalore and 
Nashik. Over the next 8 to 10 years, Bosch expects the share of 
diesel engines in India featuring common-rail injection technology to 
rise from the current single-digit figure to 60%.


 In fiscal year 2004, sales of Bosch Indian subsidiary Motor 
Industries Co. Ltd. (Mico) rose by 23% to nearly €420 million. Mico 
employs 10,000 associates at four locations in India.


	http://www.bosch-presse.de/TBWebDB/bosch-ptj/en-US/PressText.cfm?id=2 
245



+ Maruti to develop diesel car engines

India's Maruti Udyog will develop its diesel engine by the end of 
2006, reports Reuters. Maruti, which is 54.2% owned by Suzuki, will 
develop the diesel engine using a license Suzuki acquired from Fiat.


 Maruti, India's largest car maker, has been traditionally relying on 
gasoline engines, while competitors like Tata Motors and foreign 
suppliers have been increasing their diesel sales. Maruti, who 
currently imports diesel engines, has a small market share in diesel 
cars.


http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?storyID=7982483
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[Biofuel] BMW selects PSA diesel engine for the Mini

[Keith Addison]

March 2005
http://www.dieselnet.com/

BMW selects PSA diesel engine for the Mini

BMW has chosen a PSA Peugeot Citroen's diesel engine for its urban 
Mini brand car, according to the German Automobilwoche newspaper. PSA 
engines are to replace the currently used Toyota engines from 2007. 
The PSA engines were reportedly chosen because of their lower price 
and higher power.


http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?storyID=7889259
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[Biofuel] GM introduces diesels for Chevrolet Express and GMC Savana

[Keith Addison]

March 2005
http://www.dieselnet.com/

GM introduces diesels for Chevrolet Express and GMC Savana

General Motors (GM) announced the availability of the Duramax 6600 
turbodiesel engine in the 2006 models of its full-size vans Chevrolet 
Express and GMC Savana G2500 and G3500 series.


The 6.6 liter V-8 Duramax turbodiesel delivers 186 kW/250 hp and 624 
Nm/460 lb-ft of torque. It features a strengthened iron cylinder 
block and a variable geometry turbocharger. The compression ratio has 
been lowered from 17.5:1 to 16.8:1, to help control noise and NOx 
emissions.


The combined EPA fuel economy of the diesel Express/Savana is 20.2 
mpg (11.6 l/100 km), representing a 35% improvement over the 5.3 
liter gasoline engine.


	http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayServlet?target=http://image.emeral 
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[Biofuel] Toyota introducing diesel powered Lexus

[Keith Addison]

March 2005
http://www.dieselnet.com/

Toyota introducing diesel powered Lexus

Toyota has introduced its first diesel powered Lexus model. The new 
Lexus IS, unveiled at the Geneva Motor Show, comes with two engine 
options: a 2.5 liter V6 gasoline engine, and a 2.2 liter diesel. The 
vehicle is intended for the EU market.


The new 2,231 cc common rail diesel unit is constructed entirely from 
aluminum. It features a variable geometry turbocharger and a piezo 
common rail injection system, capable of up to 4 separate injections 
per cycle. High injection pressure of 1,800 bar is combined with-- 
according to Toyota--the world's lowest diesel engine compression 
ratio of 15.8:1, which facilitates quiet combustion and lower NOx. 
The engine generates 130 kW/177 hp at 3,600 rpm and 400 Nm/295 lb-ft 
of torque between 2,000 and 2,400 rpm. It is the same engine--the 
production of which was just started by Toyota in Poland--that was 
recently introduced in the new Toyota Avensis.


The new 2.2 liter diesel is also equipped with "Lexus Clean Diesel 
Technology", the integrated NOx adsorber/particulate filter emission 
package, which was called "D-CAT" and/or "DPNR" in the Avensis model 
(the durability of the NOx adsorber in the DPNR system was recently 
questioned by German car makers, see DieselNet Update - February 
2005).


Lexus IS:
	http://www.toyota-media.com/MediaSite/Files/Pub/%7B8C0AAE13-DEF0-4F4B 
-BCB0-370E01F6DC9A%7D/Internet/geneva05_uk.html

TMIP starts production of 2.2 liter diesel engine:
http://www.toyota.co.jp/en/news/05/0323.html
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[Biofuel] Mercedes Benz unveils the R Class in New York

[Keith Addison]

March 2005
http://www.dieselnet.com/

Mercedes Benz unveils the R Class in New York

At the New York International Auto Show, Mercedes Benz will unveil 
its new R Class Grand Sports Tourer model. The car--which represents 
a new concept fusing elements of such vehicle categories as sporty 
Saloon, Estate, MPV and SUV--will launch in the USA in the Fall of 
2005, and in Europe in early 2006.


Engine outputs will range from 165 kW/224 hp to 225 kW/306 hp. The V8 
gasoline engine propelling the R 500 will achieve 0-100 km/h 
acceleration in 6.9 seconds and a top speed of 240 km/h.


From the beginning of 2006, the vehicle will be also available with a 
V6 common rail diesel engine. The V6 engine has a peak torque of 510 
Nm from 1600 rpm. The fuel consumption of the R 320 CDI is 8.9 liters 
per 100 km (combined city/highway).


	http://www.daimlerchrysler.com/dccom/0,,0-5-7145-1-477824-1-0-0-0-0-0 
-9-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0,00.html

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[Biofuel] DaimlerChrysler emphasizes synthetic diesel commitment

[Keith Addison]

March 2005
http://www.dieselnet.com/

DaimlerChrysler emphasizes synthetic diesel commitment

At the Geneva Motor Show, DaimlerChrysler has confirmed its 
commitment to the development of synthetic diesel fuel from biomass, 
known as "SunDiesel". This biomass-to-liquid (BTL) fuel is produced 
in a Fischer-Tropsch process, utilizing synthesis gas obtained 
through gasification of biomass (for instance, wood chips).


SunDiesel is very effective in reducing greenhouse gas emissions. 
According to a lifecycle analysis commissioned by DaimlerChrysler, 
the total life cycle CO2 emissions could be cut by up to 90%. A 
disadvantage of BTL fuels is the energy demand in the manufacturing 
process, which is much higher than in liquid fuels produced from 
natural gas.


The SunDiesel fuel is developed by DaimlerChrysler in partnership 
with Volkswagen. The fuel will be produced by CHOREN in Freiberg 
(Saxony).


	http://wwwsg.daimlerchrysler.com/SD7DEV/GMS/TEMPLATES/GMS_PRESS_RELEA 
SE/0,2941,0-1-64903-1-1-text-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0,00.html

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[Biofuel] Study predicts growth of HCCI engines

[Keith Addison]

March 2005
http://www.dieselnet.com/

Study predicts growth of HCCI engines

A new study analyzing trends in heavy-duty vehicle powertrain 
technologies by 2020 has been released by TIAX, a collaborative 
product and technology development firm, and Global Insight, an 
industry forecasting firm. One of the findings of the study is a 
predicted growth in homogeneous charge compression ignition (HCCI) 
engine technology which will be displacing conventional heavy-duty 
diesel engines. The study also predicts greater use of heavy-duty 
hybrid vehicles.


The study, titled "The Future of Heavy-Duty Powertrains", was 
commissioned by a group of oil companies, engine and vehicle 
manufacturers, and component suppliers to investigate the impact of 
more stringent emissions regulations, increased traffic congestion, 
and a shortage of skilled drivers for large vehicles on the 
heavy-duty vehicle industry in North America, Europe, and Japan.


Key findings of the report include:

 - HCCI engines will power nearly 40% of heavy-duty vehicles by 2020. 
Initially HCCI will only be able to power light loads at low speeds 
so early versions of the engine will also incorporate conventional 
diesel combustion to supply more power when greater demand is placed 
on the engine. A full mode HCCI engine will eventually supersede the 
mixed mode HCCI/diesel technology.


- By 2020, 15-25% of heavy-duty vehicles globally will incorporate 
either hybrid electric or hydraulic hybrid technology. The rapid 
deployment of hybrid technology in the heavy-duty vehicle industry 
will be driven by savings on fuel and brake maintenance by vehicle 
operators.


- The demand for self-shifting transmission technology in heavy- duty 
vehicles will increase dramatically over the next 15 years. The 
self-shifting transmissions can maximize fuel efficiency and to 
broaden the labor pool from which drivers can be recruited because 
trucks with automated or automatic transmissions are easier to drive.


HCCI is a low temperature combustion technology utilizing compression 
ignition of well-mixed air-fuel mixture. The major technical 
challenge in HCCI is the control of combustion, with most of today's 
engine prototypes being able to sustain the HCCI combustion mode only 
at low to medium engine loads. Unlike the conventional diesel engine, 
HCCI emits ultra low emissions of NOx and PM. On the negative side, 
it can produce increased HC and CO emissions.


The predicted growth in HCCI engines is particularly significant in 
that the exhaust gas aftertreatment systems currently being 
developed- -targeting mostly NOx and PM emissions--and expected to 
reach the market in the next few years will start to become obsolete 
by 2020. Instead, HCCI emission aftertreatment would need to target 
HC and CO emissions at very low exhaust temperatures.


Summary:
	http://www.globalinsight.com/publicDownload/genericContent/03-03-05_P 
T_overview.pdf

Purchase the report:
	http://www.globalinsight.com/MultiClientStudy/MultiClientStudyDetail1 
629.htm

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re: [Biofuel] The Energy Crunch To Come

[DHAJOGLO]

>http://www.motherjones.com/news/dailymojo/2005/03/energy_crunch.html
>
>March 22, 2005
>
>The Energy Crunch To Come
>
>By Michael T. Klare
>
>Data released annually at this time by the major oil companies on
>their prior-year performances rarely generates much interest outside
>the business world. With oil prices at an all-time high and Big Oil
>reporting record profits, however, this year has been exceptional.
>Many media outlets covered the announcement of mammoth profits
>garnered by ExxonMobil, the nation's wealthiest public corporation,
>and other large firms. Exxon's fourth-quarter earnings, at $8.42
>billion, represented the highest quarterly income ever reported by an
>American firm.
>


Am I missing something?  If prices for a raw input go up then the sale price 
also goes up.  However, provided the prices go up at near the same rate of the 
inputs then profits should also remain basically stable.  However, the oil 
companies are pulling out profits left and right.  Therefore, if they are 
profiting then the retial price of fuel is artifically high and not high mearly 
because of crude prices.

I know its not this simple and that the theories of supply and demand weigh in, 
but why are people (ie. the masses) not questioning what appears to be 
collusion?


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Re: @SPAM+++++++++ Re: [Biofuel] Set up help

[Jan Warnqvist]

Hello Luke.
I agree with you fully, but do not forget that SVO have a lower cetane
number, and they tend to form deposits in the combustion surroundings. These
deposits have a high cracking point (550-600oC) and the diesel engine is
built for fuel with a max boiling point of 350oC, so the deposits will
continue to form and grow until they cause trouble.
Best regards
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AGERATEC AB

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- Original Message - 
From: "WM LUKE MATHISEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 4:13 PM
Subject: @SPAM+ Re: [Biofuel] Set up help


Thanks for you input, I like the idea of capturing the heat and using it.

I did just run into this from "Biomass 2004 Biodiesel handling and use
guidelines" by the DOE enerty Efficiency and Renewable Energy.

"Raw or refined vegetable oil, or recycled greases that have not been
processed into biodiesel, are not biodiesel and should be avoided.  Research
shows that vegetable oil or greases used in CI engines at levels as low as
10% to 20% can cause long-term engine deposits, ring sticking, lube oil
gelling, and other maintenance problems and can reduce engine life.  These
problems are caused mostly by the greater viscosity, or thickness, of the
raw oils (around 40mm 2/s) compared to that of of the diesel fuel for which
the engines and injectors were designed (between 1.3 an d4.1 mm @/s).  To
avoid viscosity-related problems, vegetable oils and other feedstocks are
converted into biodiesel.  Through the process of converting vegetable oil
or greases to biodiesel, we reduce viscosity of the fuel to values similar
to conventional diesel fuel (biodiesel values are typically between 4 and 5
mm 2.s)."

I just paid $4000 for a genset and would like it to last the 20,000 to
50,000 hours it was designed for.  Are there any studies out there that
contradict the DOEs studies?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Gene Chaffin
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 03/29/2005 10:45 PM
  Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Set up help


  Jeremy:  I started with an 8KW china diesel which runs at 2000rpm and
  consumed .8 gallons per hour.  I now do not consider these china diesels
  capable of 24/7 operation, eventhough I did get 6,200 hours out of one.  I
  am now using a Detroit 2-71 12 KW genset which consumes 1.1 gallons per
hour
  of wvo.  I have only been using the Detroit genset for two weeks now but I
  do like the fact that it revolves at a slow 1200 rpm and does not have a
  fuel injection pump like most diesel engines.  I don't just produce
  electricity I also use the waste heat from the cooling system as well as
the
  waste heat from the exhaust.  The waste heat is used to heat up the vege
oil
  and warm the water on my fish farm so the little rascals don't go into
  hybernation.  If you make use of all of the parasitic heat available from
  your genset you will have no problem running straight veg oil, I don't
care
  if you live in Alaska.  It freezes where I am and I still had to install a
  swamp cooler to keep the generator room comfortable.  Make use of the
water
  jacket heat and exhaust heat to provide your domestic hot water and heat
  your house.  I have not had any fuel system maladies.  Most of the
problems
  I was experiencing with the China diesels was with the valve train...they
  needed valve jobs every 2000 hours.  My learning curve is rather long at
  this point so don't hesitate to pick my brain as you progress.  I am now
in
  the process of installing a 20 KW Northern Lights genset which has a
similar
  engine to your Isuzu.  It has the Bosh/Kiki fuel injection pump.  I do not
  expect to have any problems with that conversion to wvo.  Good luck. Gene
  Chaffin  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Behalf Of Jeremy
  Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 7:52 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Set up help


  Luke and Gene,

  Running straight WVO through your genset is great if you life in sunny
  california,  but I would not rely on that in Missoula.  WVO in Missoula
  would require a hefty investment in time and materials to create an
  environment equal to that of california in a shed.  Also, it is very
  difficult to collect WVO oil in freezing temps, or do anything with WVO in
  freezing temps.  I have a 12k isuzu generator that I am hoping to run with
a
  diesel/biofuel mix.  I think the best we could do is Biofuel in the summer
  and a mix in the winter, something greater than 50/50.  I think it would
be
  best to process your fuel in the summer, and store it with diesel for the
  winter.  That would require knowing how much fuel you would need over the
  winter, probably close to a half gallon an hour for you lister petter.

  Gene: could you describe your generator, w

Re: [Biofuel] liquid glycerine

[Appal Energy]

It seems to me that you produced some soap that time.


All base processing creates soap.

What everyone keeps referring to as "glycerine" settling out of a 
transesterification (base) reaction is for the most part soap, diluted with 
methanol and glycerol.


The volume of glycerol per liter of oil processed is ~7.9% (~79 mililiters). 
The excess alcohol present in this layer (glycerin cocktail) is ~65ml when 
initially using 200 ml per liter. The balance is soap.


Different oil and fat feedstocks produce different types of soap. If your 
feestock was primarily soybean oil on Monday but coconut oil on Tuesday, the 
latter would in general yield a more solid glyc cocktail. If the feedstocks 
were soybean oil on both days but Tuesday's was extremely degraded (high 
FFA) then the latter would yield a harder glyc cocktail. If the feedstock on 
Monday had less animal fat in it than that on Tuesday the latter would 
generally yield a harder or more viscous glyc cocktail.


The same happens when using different catalysts. In soap making sodium 
hydroxide (lye) is used to produce bar soaps (hard) and potassium hydroxide 
is used to produce liquid soaps (solid like thick bread dough but more 
soluble). When using potassium hydroxide the glyc cocktail generally never 
thickens beyond that of maple syrup.


Hardened or thinned glyc cocktails don't necessarily indicate "mistakes" or 
"correctness" in processing.


Todd Swearingen

- Original Message - 
From: "Jan Warnqvist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 3:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] liquid glycerine



Hello Paul.
It seems to me that you produced some soap that time. Did you measure the
FFA content before starting ?
Best regards
Jan Warnqvist
AGERATEC AB

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- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 1:00 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] liquid glycerine







Hi,

I've been making Biodiesel (BD) for a few months, now.. using the Mike
Pelly method.. and a curious thing happened with the last batch (my

batches

are in approx. 160 - 180 litres).. the glycerine was liquid after the
reaction. This is the first time this has occurred for me, all other 
times

the glycerine formed and settle in my tank, and was solid at low
temperatures.

I had measured accurately, the quantities of methanol, caustic soda and
volume of oil...( I had an interested observer, who can testify if
required!! :-)  ) I watched the colour of the mixture change, as I was
agitating, from a light caramel colour to a dark molasses colour... then
observed the glycerine start to settle, as expected. At this time the
glycerine was quite warm, so was still liquid, however, I let the mixture
settle for a 2 week period and the glycerine has not set firm. maybe I
should not complain.. 'cos it was easy to drain out of the tank! :-)

Did the reaction not go far enough?  Any further ideas on what has
happened??

regards,

Paul.
---
Paul Tanner
Software IT Architect
Melbourne, Australia

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Re: [Biofuel] Set up help

[WM LUKE MATHISEN]

Thanks for you input, I like the idea of capturing the heat and using it.

I did just run into this from "Biomass 2004 Biodiesel handling and use 
guidelines" by the DOE enerty Efficiency and Renewable Energy.

"Raw or refined vegetable oil, or recycled greases that have not been processed 
into biodiesel, are not biodiesel and should be avoided.  Research shows that 
vegetable oil or greases used in CI engines at levels as low as 10% to 20% can 
cause long-term engine deposits, ring sticking, lube oil gelling, and other 
maintenance problems and can reduce engine life.  These problems are caused 
mostly by the greater viscosity, or thickness, of the raw oils (around 40mm 
2/s) compared to that of of the diesel fuel for which the engines and injectors 
were designed (between 1.3 an d4.1 mm @/s).  To avoid viscosity-related 
problems, vegetable oils and other feedstocks are converted into biodiesel.  
Through the process of converting vegetable oil or greases to biodiesel, we 
reduce viscosity of the fuel to values similar to conventional diesel fuel 
(biodiesel values are typically between 4 and 5 mm 2.s)."

I just paid $4000 for a genset and would like it to last the 20,000 to 50,000 
hours it was designed for.  Are there any studies out there that contradict the 
DOEs studies?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Gene Chaffin 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: 03/29/2005 10:45 PM
  Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Set up help


  Jeremy:  I started with an 8KW china diesel which runs at 2000rpm and
  consumed .8 gallons per hour.  I now do not consider these china diesels
  capable of 24/7 operation, eventhough I did get 6,200 hours out of one.  I
  am now using a Detroit 2-71 12 KW genset which consumes 1.1 gallons per hour
  of wvo.  I have only been using the Detroit genset for two weeks now but I
  do like the fact that it revolves at a slow 1200 rpm and does not have a
  fuel injection pump like most diesel engines.  I don't just produce
  electricity I also use the waste heat from the cooling system as well as the
  waste heat from the exhaust.  The waste heat is used to heat up the vege oil
  and warm the water on my fish farm so the little rascals don't go into
  hybernation.  If you make use of all of the parasitic heat available from
  your genset you will have no problem running straight veg oil, I don't care
  if you live in Alaska.  It freezes where I am and I still had to install a
  swamp cooler to keep the generator room comfortable.  Make use of the water
  jacket heat and exhaust heat to provide your domestic hot water and heat
  your house.  I have not had any fuel system maladies.  Most of the problems
  I was experiencing with the China diesels was with the valve train...they
  needed valve jobs every 2000 hours.  My learning curve is rather long at
  this point so don't hesitate to pick my brain as you progress.  I am now in
  the process of installing a 20 KW Northern Lights genset which has a similar
  engine to your Isuzu.  It has the Bosh/Kiki fuel injection pump.  I do not
  expect to have any problems with that conversion to wvo.  Good luck. Gene
  Chaffin  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Behalf Of Jeremy
  Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 7:52 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Set up help


  Luke and Gene,

  Running straight WVO through your genset is great if you life in sunny
  california,  but I would not rely on that in Missoula.  WVO in Missoula
  would require a hefty investment in time and materials to create an
  environment equal to that of california in a shed.  Also, it is very
  difficult to collect WVO oil in freezing temps, or do anything with WVO in
  freezing temps.  I have a 12k isuzu generator that I am hoping to run with a
  diesel/biofuel mix.  I think the best we could do is Biofuel in the summer
  and a mix in the winter, something greater than 50/50.  I think it would be
  best to process your fuel in the summer, and store it with diesel for the
  winter.  That would require knowing how much fuel you would need over the
  winter, probably close to a half gallon an hour for you lister petter.

  Gene: could you describe your generator, what load you run, how much fuel
  you burn, how long you run it, how old is it, how often do you maintain the
  fuel system, any unexpected problems.
  - Original Message -
  From: "Gene Chaffin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 8:41 PM
  Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Set up help


  > Luke: Don't bother making biodiesel for your stationary genset.  Simply
  > filter the wvo to 5 microns, heat it to 160 degrees and burn it directly
  in
  > your genset.  I've been doing this for over a year now with my stationary
  > gen

Re: [Biofuel] Mobil Biodiesel Processor

[Kevin Shea]

I've seen a couple of trailers in the Upstate NY area with a trailer setup.
Unfortunately, I couldn't talk to the person(s) as we were both driving past
each other on the NY thruway at maximum speeds.  It's a shame, as the chap
had all stainless steel tanks and a really nice pump!  The setup was very
professional and well thought out.

Girl Mark has a basic trailer setup with pictures at veggieavenger web site
below that she may trailers to speaking engagements. A functional simplistic
setup that can be made to look neater if someone desired.

Note the condenser reclaim to the liquid trap!  Very nice addition!

Some other photos available at that site of other processors setups as well.

-Kevin

http://www.veggieavenger.com/avengerboard/viewtopic.php?t=505&sid=5813174dac69cb9342d5659af9112f43

> Dear Mr. Harris:
> Please send us plans when you get mobil unit.
> Tks,
> Francisco

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[Biofuel] The Energy Crunch To Come

[Keith Addison]

March 22, 2005

The Energy Crunch To Come

By Michael T. Klare

Data released annually at this time by the major oil companies on 
their prior-year performances rarely generates much interest outside 
the business world. With oil prices at an all-time high and Big Oil 
reporting record profits, however, this year has been exceptional. 
Many media outlets covered the announcement of mammoth profits 
garnered by ExxonMobil, the nation's wealthiest public corporation, 
and other large firms. Exxon's fourth-quarter earnings, at $8.42 
billion, represented the highest quarterly income ever reported by an 
American firm.


"This is the most profitable company in the world," declared Nick 
Raich, research director of Zacks Investment Research in Chicago. But 
cheering as the recent announcements may have been for many on Wall 
Street, they also contained a less auspicious sign. Despite having 
spent billions of dollars on exploration, the major energy firms are 
reporting few new discoveries and so have been digging ever deeper 
into existing reserves. If this trend continues -- and there is every 
reason to assume it will -- the world is headed for a severe and 
prolonged energy crunch in the not-too-distant future.


To put this in perspective, bear in mind that the global oil industry 
has, until now, largely been able to increase its combined output 
every year in step with rising world demand. True, there have been a 
number of occasions when demand has outpaced supply, producing 
temporary shortages and high gasoline prices at the pump. But the 
industry has always been able been able to catch up again and so 
quench the world's insatiable thirst for oil. This has been possible 
because the big energy companies kept up a constant and successful 
search for new sources of oil to supplement the supplies drawn from 
their existing reserves. The world's known reserves still contain a 
lot of oil -- approximately 1.1 trillion barrels, by the estimates of 
experts at the oil major BP -- but they cannot satisfy rising world 
demand indefinitely; and so, in the absence of major new discoveries, 
we face a gradual contraction in the global supply of petroleum.


Signs of an Energy Crunch

It is in this context that the following disclosures, all reported in 
recent months, take on such significance.


* ConocoPhillips, the Houston-based amalgam of Continental Oil and 
Phillips Petroleum, announced in January that new additions to its 
oil reserves in 2004 amounted to only about 60-65% of all the oil it 
produced that year, entailing a significant depletion of those 
existing reserves.


* ChevronTexaco, the second largest U.S. energy firm after 
ExxonMobil, also reported a significant imbalance between oil 
production and replacement. Although not willing to disclose the 
precise nature of the company's shortfall, chief executive Dave 
O'Reilly told analysts that he expects "our 2004 reserves-replacement 
rate to be low."


* Royal Dutch/Shell, already reeling from admissions last year that 
it had over-stated its oil and natural gas reserves by 20%, recently 
lowered its estimated holdings by another 10%, bringing its net loss 
to the equivalent of 5.3 billion barrels of oil. Even more worrisome, 
Shell announced in February that it had replaced only about 45-55% of 
the oil and gas it produced in 2004, an unexpectedly disappointing 
figure.


These and similar disclosures suggest that the major private oil 
companies are failing to discover promising new sources of petroleum 
just as demand for their products soars. According to a recent study 
released by PFC Energy of Washington, D.C., over the past 20 years, 
the major oil firms have been producing and consuming twice as much 
oil as they have been finding. "In effect," says Mike Rodgers, author 
of the report, "the world's crude oil supply is still largely 
dependent on legacy assets discovered during the exploration 
heydays." True, vast reservoirs of untapped petroleum were discovered 
in those "heydays," mostly the 1950s and 1960s, but these reserves, 
being finite, will eventually run dry and, if not replaced soon, will 
leave the world facing a devastating energy crunch.


The notion that world oil supplies are likely to contract in the 
years ahead is hotly contested by numerous analysts in government and 
industry, who contend that many large fields await discovery. "Is the 
resource base large enough [to satisfy rising world demand]? We 
believe it is," affirmed ExxonMobil president Rex W. Tillerson in 
December. But other experts cast doubt on such claims by pointing to 
those disappointing reserve-replacement rates. "We've run out of good 
projects," said Matt Simmons, head of the oil-investment bank Simmons 
& Co. International. "This is not a money issue If these 
companies had fantastic projects, they'd be out there [developing new 
fields]."


That the major oil firms see few promising new fields to invest in 
right now is further suggeste

[Biofuel] Hot Air and Global Warming

[Keith Addison]

Cumulative Environmental Effects of Oil and Gas Activities on 
Alaska's North Slope

Download the 4 page Report Brief:
http://books.nap.edu/html/north_slope/reportbrief.pdf
Read the Full 452 Page Report Online:
http://www.nap.edu/books/0309087376/html/

http://www.sitnews.net/0303news/030503_nas_report.html
Effects of Oil and Gas Development Are Accumulating On Northern 
Alaska's Environment and Native Cultures


http://www.alaskawild.org/pressroom_mythsfacts.html
Arctic National Wildlife Refuge - Myths & Facts

---

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0325-22.htm
Published on Friday, March 25, 2005 by the Boston Globe

Hot Air and Global Warming

by Derrick Z. Jackson

Every time the world calls for action on climate change, the United 
States emits more White House gases. The latest puff came from James 
Connaughton, the director of environmental quality, during last 
week's conference of 20 nations that met in London to attempt once 
again to make global warming a global priority.


At the conference, British economic minister Gordon Brown said, 
''Climate change is a consequence of the build-up of greenhouse gases 
over the past 200 years in the atmosphere and virtually all these 
emissions came from the rich countries. Indeed, we became rich 
through those emissions." Connaughton's response, in an interview 
with the British Broadcasting Corporation, was, ''We're still working 
on the issue of causation."


Brown said, ''We now have sufficient evidence that human-made climate 
change is the most far-reaching and almost certainly the most 
threatening of all the environmental challenges facing us." 
Connaughton's response as to what he referred as ''the extent to 
which humans are a factor," was, ''They may be."


Brown said, ''The industrialized countries must take responsibility 
first in reducing their emissions of greenhouse gases." Connaughton 
complained instead that the target in the Kyoto treaty for the United 
States to reduce emissions ''was so unreasonable in our ability to 
meet it that the only we could have met it was to shift 
energy-intensive manufacturing to other countries."


Two days after dismissing coalition building, the United States went 
back to emissions building. The Senate, by a vote of 51-49, finally 
approved oil drilling in Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. On 
efforts to stop global warming, Connaughton said, ''We are trying now 
to find a portfolio in which three words are important: technology, 
technology, and technology."


He meant drilling, drilling, drilling. Two years ago the National 
Academies of Science said that even with improved technologies, 
drilling on the north slope of Alaska has degraded the tundra, 
altered wildlife patterns, and has resulted in social problems that 
blunt claims of unqualified economic progress. Many scientists have 
said that the oil in the refuge is so relatively minuscule that we 
would be better off if we simply made our cars more fuel efficient.


Although Connaughton claimed we are ''trying to find" technology, we 
refuse to use it. The National Academies has for years said the 
technology exists for more fuel efficient cars. But Congress and the 
White House, imprisoned by the oil and auto lobby, refuse to raise 
them.


The vote to drill in Alaska was parallel to another Senate vote to 
deny an additional $1 billion for Amtrak when studies show that 
well-developed rail systems can slash traffic and thus global-warming 
pollution. The United States consumes a quarter of the world's oil 
and produces a quarter of the planet's greenhouse gases despite being 
4 percent of the population. Yet when Brown said that the 
industrialized countries must take responsibility first, we become 
the most immature adolescent on Earth, doing precisely the opposite 
of what we need to do.


Earlier in the month, the former chief scientific adviser to the 
British government, Lord May of Oxford, bluntly compared Bush to a 
modern-day Nero. Last fall, British Prime Minister Tony Blair said, 
''If what the science tells about climate change is correct, then 
unabated it will result in catastrophic consequences for our world. 
The science almost certainly is correct."


At the recent London conference, Brown said, ''Environmental issues 
including climate change have traditionally been placed in a category 
separate from the economy and from economic policy. But this is no 
longer tenable. Across a range of environmental issues, from soil 
erosion to the depletion of marine stocks, from water scarcity to air 
pollution, it is clear now not just that economic activity is their 
cause, but that these problems in themselves threaten future economic 
activity and growth."


Nero and his fiddlers would hear none of that. Asked last month what 
the science was on global warming, Connaughton said on CNBC, ''There 
are many different views."


The science ceased to have many views years ago. The very first 
sentence in the executive s

[Biofuel] Unlikely Bedfellows Lobby against US Gas-Guzzlers

[Keith Addison]

Unlikely Bedfellows Lobby against US Gas-Guzzlers

March 29, 2005 - By Chris Baltimore, Reuters

WASHINGTON - A group of former national security officials Monday 
took up the cause of weaning U.S. drivers from their oil addiction -- 
normally the realm of environmental groups -- and asked the Bush 
administration to spend $1 billion on lighter, more fuel-efficient 
automobiles.


Retail U.S. gasoline prices now averaging above $2 a gallon make U.S. 
reliance on foreign suppliers like Venezuela and Saudi Arabia a 
looming national security crisis, a group of 31 national security 
officials said in a letter to President Bush.


"This really constitutes a national security crisis in the making," 
said letter signer Frank Gaffney, head of the Center for Security 
Policy, a thinktank, and a former Defense Department official under 
former President Reagan.


Other signers included Robert McFarlane, Reagan's national security 
advisor, and James Woolsey, Central Intelligence Agency director 
under President Clinton.


In an uncharacteristic move, the security experts sought input from 
groups like the Natural Resources Defense Council, which have long 
lobbied for more fuel-efficient cars.


"It's strange bedfellows but this is actually the real American 
majority," said Nicole St. Clair, a spokeswoman for the NRDC. "It's 
common sense."


Policymakers should address rampant oil demand from gas-guzzling 
vehicles, and stop trying to solve the problem by opening land like 
the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to drilling, she said.


The letter urged the government to encourage car makers to design 
vehicles from lighter materials to improve mileage. It also endorsed 
the use of "plug power" -- hybrid vehicles that can run off internal 
batteries for short trips before switching to their 
internal-combustion engines.


The program would cost $1 billion over five years.

Regulations known as Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards 
require automakers to achieve an average fuel economy of 27.5 miles 
per gallon for all passenger cars sold, and 20.7 mpg for vans, sport 
utility vehicles and pick-up trucks. The standards have not been 
tightened for more than a dozen years due to opposition from Detroit.


The average fuel economy has steadily dropped since 1988. It was 20.8 
mpg for all 2003 model vehicles, according to the Environmental 
Protection Agency's annual mileage report.


McFarlane told the White House that stricter mileage standards could 
help cut U.S. crude oil imports in half.


The group's recommendations gave short shrift to hydrogen-powered 
vehicles, a Bush administration priority, because they will take 
decades to field.


U.S. drivers should not depend on foreign suppliers like Saudi Arabia 
for security reasons, they said. Although Saudi officials say the 
kingdom's oilfields are protected from terror attacks, McFarlane said 
the oil installations are "extremely vulnerable from a military point 
of view."


If Saudi oil facilities are damaged, "You're not talking about $100 
(per barrel) oil. You're talking about well beyond that," McFarlane 
said. U.S. crude oil prices peaked March 17 at $57.60 a barrel.


Source: Reuters
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[Biofuel] Lobbyists see a tradeoff -- ANWR for CAFE standards

[Keith Addison]

http://thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/Business/031605.html
Afraid that their vote to open the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to 
oil exploration might make Congress more likely to increase fuel 
efficiency standards, the automobile industry is "trying to polish 
its image." The Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers is claiming, in 
newspaper and radio ads, and on cleaning sponges given to 
Congressional staffers, that "cars are 99% cleaner than they used to 
be." (The Union of Concerned Scientists calls the Auto Alliance 
campaign "highly misleading.") An Auto Alliance spokesperson said 
increased fuel standards would be "very difficult to achieve," 
because of the popularity of large vehicles. "It's not what we 
manufacture; it's what consumers buy," she said.

SOURCE: The Hill, March 16, 2005

-

http://thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/Business/031605.html

Lobbyists see a tradeoff -- ANWR for CAFE standards
By Jim Snyder

Congressional staffers received cleaning sponges last week, 
compliments of an auto industry trying to polish its image.


The sponges carried the same message as earlier newspaper 
advertisements (in such places as The Hill) and radio spots: Cars are 
99 percent cleaner than they used to be.


Some senators want automobiles to be cleaner still, through tougher 
average-mileage standards attached to a comprehensive energy bill. 
That position appeared to receive a boost last week when Energy and 
Natural Resources Committee Chairman Pete Domenici (R-N.M.) suggested 
a greater willingness to cut demand for oil by requiring cars to go 
farther on a tank of gas. 

Domenici said he would "be delighted to include a viable" corporate 
average fuel economy, or CAFE, provision in the energy bill.


With a possible Senate debate looming on boosting energy supplies by 
opening the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) to drilling, some 
lobbyists see a potential tradeoff.


"ANWR is happening. That's the supply side. Republicans may be 
saying, 'Now let's do something more on the demand side,'" said one 
utility lobbyist who supports the energy bill but doesn't have a 
stake in whether it increases average fuel-economy standards.


Marnie Funk, a spokeswoman for the Energy and Natural Resources 
Committee, said that many of the amendments that Democrats threatened 
to offer in the last Congress if a Republican-crafted energy bill 
returned to the floor focused on conservation.


While Domenici felt his bill was balanced, Funk added, "Absolutely, 
we are open to doing more."


Bill Wicker, spokesman for committee Democrats, said his side was 
still waiting to hear what "viable" means to Republicans.


The auto industry - which says an overly aggressive CAFE boost would 
force layoffs - is revving up for the debate. It has done so by 
noting, through sponges and advertisements, that cars are already 
much cleaner than they were three decades ago.


But upping the fuel standard could be "very difficult to achieve," 
said Gloria Bergquist, a spokeswoman for the Alliance of Automobile 
Manufacturers, which represents domestic and foreign car 
manufacturers.


Carmakers say they are at the mercy of their market because CAFE 
averages fuel efficiencies of cars on the road and not the cars that 
are made.


"It's not what we manufacture; it's what consumers buy," Bergquist said.

Consumers have increasingly favored larger vehicles, such as SUVs, 
which fall under the less stringent light-truck CAFE standards.


Carmakers want CAFE changes to be handled by the National Highway 
Transportation Safety Administration, which can review the difficult 
technicalities of changing CAFE over a period of months, rather than 
by Congress, Bergquist said.


The current automobile CAFE - 27.5 miles per gallon - has been the 
standard since 1990. Light trucks will have to meet an average fuel 
economy of 22.2 miles a gallon in 2007, up from the current standard 
of 20.7 mpg.
Backed by environmental groups, lawmakers have tried for years to 
increase auto fuel-efficiency standards, but congressional efforts 
have failed. That's despite the call from some Republicans to 
increase CAFE standards as a way to reduce America's dependence on 
foreign oil.


Sens. John Kerry (D-Mass.), John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Dianne 
Feinstein (D-Calif.) have introduced bills in past sessions to raise 
the standard as high as 36 miles per gallon.


Even with rising prices, demand for gasoline in the United States 
continues to grow.


According to the Energy Information Administration (EIA), which 
records energy statistics for the Energy Department, motorists used 
8.93 million barrels of gasoline a day in 2003. In 2004, that was 
projected to have increased to 9.06 million barrels per day.


A decade ago, demand stood at 7.6 million barrels a day, according to the EIA.

Bergquist said the auto industry favors tax incentives to purchase 
fuel-efficient cars such as hybrids or cars that run on clean diesel.


The alliance, 

[Biofuel] Crush Corporate Crime (BP)

[Keith Addison]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4377519.stm
BBC NEWS | World | Americas | Texas oil plant blast 'kills 14'
Thursday, 24 March, 2005

http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0325/p02s01-usgn.html
Texas explosion raises concerns about aging refineries | csmonitor.com
March 25, 2005



http://lists.essential.org/pipermail/corp-focus/2005/000200.html

29 Mar 2005

Crush Corporate Crime
By Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman

Last week, we attended a press conference.

It was held by the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, which 
identifies itself as "an international learned society composed of 
the world's leading scientists, scholars, artists, business people, 
and public leaders."


The Academy held the press conference to draw attention to a new 
study it was releasing: "Restoring Trust in American Business."


The idea for the study came from three corporate insiders -- 
securities lawyer powerbrokers Martin Lipton and Larry Sonsini, and 
Harvard Business School Professor and Computer Associates board 
member Jay Lorsch -- the same Computer Associates that was recently 
criminally charged in a massive corporate fraud, and was granted a 
deferred prosecution agreement, which let the company off the hook 
for the consequences of the crime.


These corporate insiders said that they found a "disturbing breakdown 
of values in corporate America."


But search as we would through the 184 pages of "Restoring Trust in 
American Business," we found nary a suggestion that one way to 
restore trust and deter corporate criminal wrongdoing would be to 
criminally prosecute felonious corporations or their executives.


No, in their book, the power brokers talk on and on about ethics, and 
gatekeepers, and stronger professional standards, lack of judgment, 
and independence -- but nothing about prosecuting corporate crime.


And so at the press conference, we asked -- why didn't you address 
this issue in your study?


Damon Silvers, a lawyer at the AFL-CIO, and a friend of ours, rose to answer.

Silvers says that he attended business school.

And he said that on his first day at business school, he attended a 
mandatory ethics class.


The question addressed on the first day of class was -- do you take a 
factory overseas where you are certain to benefit from child labor?


Half the class, mostly Americans said -- if it is value maximizing in 
the short term, do it.


The other half of the class, mostly non-Americans said -- of course 
not, that is dangerous, bad things will happen to your corporation in 
the long run if you do it.


Nobody in the class -- no student, nor the teacher -- suggested that 
there might be things that would be value maximizing but would be 
wrong to do, short term or long term.


"There are a lot of bad apples," Silvers said. "Maybe there are some 
sociopaths out there. But when you have a culture where people who 
are given control of most of the resources of our society believe 
there are in fact no moral limits, none, that every moral question 
can be answered on a spreadsheet, then what we have essentially seen 
in the last few years is doomed to repeat itself. But the solution to 
that cannot be putting sociopaths in jail. Because that is not the 
problem. The problem is systemic structures that encourage people to 
behavior in really destructive ways. It is not about good people and 
bad people, which is how President Bush framed it. It is about how we 
channel ordinary people. That's why I think the criminal issue, while 
important, is necessarily and unavoidably a limited solution."


Well, if the people who are "given control of most of the resources 
of our society believe there are in fact no moral limits, none," as 
Silvers puts it, then we have a nation of corporate sociopaths.


And all the informed business ethics courses and codes of 
professional responsibility are not going to make a dent in corporate 
crime.


But criminal prosecution might actually do the trick.

Criminal prosecution is not just about catching and holding 
accountable a few bad apples. It is about society drawing clear lines 
of right and wrong, and then enforcing those social norms seriously.


Had the academy added even one or two citizen activists, or one or 
two academics who have studied corporate and white-collar crime, they 
might have added this to their list of remedies.


Just to name one, they might have talked with University of Tennessee 
criminologist Neal Shover, who has written a book titled Choosing 
White Collar Crime.


It will be published by Cambridge University Press in September 2005.

Shover argues that the choice to commit corporate and white-collar 
crime is a far more careful, prudent and protracted process than it 
is for street crime.


Therefore, criminal prosecution will have a greater deterrent impact 
with white collar crime than with street crime.


Translated: Shover wants to crack down hard on corporate crime.

We were thinking about all of this the other

[Biofuel] when will it run out

[James Dontje]

I was reminded recently of the power of compounding.  At linear rates, if we 
have 100 units of oil and use it one unit per year, we can last 100 years. 
But if our usage grows five percent per year, we will run out in year 37.


Every industrialized economy is built on the hope of perpetual growth. 
While the proportion changes as we gain efficiency, energy use tracks that 
growth.  Hence, the compounding of growth is always shortening our horizon 
even as efficiency and new discoveries lengthen it.


The problem, however, isn't running out.  It is our collective reactions as 
we see the horizon get close.  The recent postings on this list are 
describing a "great game" that is based on the powerful's reactions to a 
close horizon--a reaction based not simply on how to protect the future, but 
on how to protect the future and their own power in that future.


Jim
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 04:58:44 +0200
From: Hakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Mapping The Oil Motive
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Tom,

You are in the best case right, but I think that the crises is less
than one generation (20 years) away. The statement you make
have no support in known facts, especially since the usage growth
rate seems to be grossly underestimated. The reserves from the
Oil companies has already been proven to be over estimated,
with almost a third for Shell only.

Hakan



At 09:59 PM 3/29/2005, you wrote:

Hi All,

I am an environmental scientist by education and my latest research is on
sustainable development. As near as I can tell there is no shortage of oil.
There may be shortages of production, shortages of distribution but for at
least another generation there will be no shortage of oil due to lack of
material. Here is the key reasoning. We still have not tapped all the
available reserves on land. All the Gulf war stuff is about underdeveloped
Iraqi oil and the as yet untouched and shallow (read highly profitable) oil
in the Azerbijan region. Oil is produced under oceans. Although we have
found most of the terrestrial based oil, it represents only 1/8 the planets
surface area. That leaves 7/8 of the planet where we have hardly begun the
search for new sources. A recent National Geographic article displayed new
technology that was enabling drilling off the continental shelf in water
1500 feet deep. Now oil from that depth won't be cheap but it still will be
available. With prices at $57/ barrel it becomes economically feasable to
look even deeper.

The point and the problem is that there will be no lack of oil. The problem
will be from the climate change that is already here and will only worsen 
as

we convert fossilized carbon from solid and liquid from into gaseous carbon
dioxide. I recently rewrote a global warming headline, " Hemingway turns in
his grave as the Snows of Kilamanjaro dissappear from the Earth forever.
That's the problem folks.

Sincerely,

Tom Irwin



James Dontje
Sustainability and Environmental Studies
Berea College 



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Re: [Biofuel] Re: A quest to ruin the Earth

[Keith Addison]

a time machine and return to a time when there was no offshore 
drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.  The increased harvest of commercial 
fish that is now happening must be stopped.  I will tell the People 
on their soap boxes that were saying death to the sea if we drill 
there that the narrow minded people of the future are here to help 
them stop the drilling. I will also buy a large supply of plugs 
and go around the world plugging the cracks in the earth  that leak 
the equivalent of TWO Exxon Valdeese tankers of oil into the sea 
every day.  I now see that this is killing the world.

Farmer Paul


Actually, Farmer Paul, your original post (below) was simply a bunch 
of opinionations that lacked both substantiation and substance. 
You've since had some responses that did not lack substantiation. 
Sneers and more unsubstantiated opinionations are not an acceptable 
response. The List rules, which you're obliged to read, and which 
you've been referred to before, say this, among other things:


"If someone questions you, don't just ignore them. You should be 
prepared to substantiate what you say, or to acknowledge it if you 
can't."


The List rules are here:
http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/Week-of-Mon-20040906/05.html

Respond to the replies your post received in a reasoned manner to 
support your views, as you would have to do in any normal discussion. 
Respond by return please.


Keith Addison
Journey to Forever
KYOTO Pref., Japan
http://journeytoforever.org/
Biofuel list owner


Please do not Quote items form "THE VAST MAJORITY OF AMERICANS" I 
am one American why does not like the EXTREME hog wast spewed by 
todays enviromentalist.
Have you ever seen the area to be used for oil development.  It is 
a vast frozen desert.   Talk about the destruction of the 
environment sounds like the talk about the caribou when the Alaska 
pipe line was built.  We now have MORE Caribou than before the 
pipeline. Don't  make such wild accusations.  They are beginning to 
sound like background noise.

FArmer Paul



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[Biofuel] Biofools Day :^)

[Kenneth Kron]

Global Exchange is organizing a Biofools day (the call it fossil fools day).
http://globalexchange.org/campaigns/oil/fossilfoolsday.html
You have two days to turn this into an international event.  Good luck!

(For those of you who don't have an April Fools tradition, here's a good
place to read about it http://www.infoplease.com/spot/aprilfools1.html)





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Re: [Biofuel] Cladisporium resinae

[Keith Addison]

are you referring to the plant producing castor oil ?


That's Ricinus communis.
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/Ricinus_communis.html


Best regards
Jan Warnqvist
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Cladisporium Resinae is known as "The Diesel Bug", it thrives in 
water in diesel fuel. "Micro-organisms such as Cladisporium resinae 
propagate in water at the fuel-water interface and use the fuel as a 
food source." It occurs naturally as airborne spores.


Phil, a lot of fuss is made of nasty bugs that eat biodiesel (and 
hence allegedly your motor) but it seems to be a concern only for 
commercial producers. I don't think any of us has ever encountered 
this problem, and for the commercial guys it might be more of a 
concern than a reality, perhaps because they use the existing 
petro-diesel infrastructure, or might plan to. And the commercial 
fuel quality isn't that good either. Some of us have had biodiesel 
for years without any signs of degradation. Make it properly and 
you'll have no problems.


Best wishes

Keith



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Subject: [Biofuel] Cladisporium resinae


Hi there good people,
does anyone out there have any experience of the growth of this organism in
Bio? I've had a lot to do with it in my capacity as an aircraft Engineer and
it's got rid of ( or kept under control at least ) by the addition of some
pretty toxic chemicals to the fuel which effectively act as a "weedkiller"
for want of a better expression.
Look forward to any response.

Phil Lloyd


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Re: [Biofuel] Where's Keith?

[Keith Addison]

Dear Mr.Keith,
I'll try to contribute on topics which you 've suggested after I 
return to my base at Chennai.


That would be much appreciated, if you can, though I wasn't tryingto 
push you, just to explin the situation.


Best wishes

Keith



Regards,

D.V.S
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Dear D.V.

Nice to hear from you again.





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Re: [Biofuel] Secret US plans for Iraq's oil

[Keith Addison]

holy Mackeral!  How credible are the sources?


Greg Palast is very credible indeed, he hasn't got it wrong yet, to 
my knowledge.


Best wishes

Keith



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>
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/4354269.stm
> BBC NEWS | Programmes | Newsnight | Secret US plans
> for Iraq's oil
>
> Secret US plans for Iraq's oil
>
> by Greg Palast
>
> The Bush administration made plans for war and for
> Iraq's oil before
> the 9/11 attacks, sparking a policy battle between
> neo-cons and Big
> Oil, BBC's Newsnight has revealed.
>
> Two years ago today - when President George Bush
> announced US,
> British and Allied forces would begin to bomb
> Baghdad - protesters
> claimed the US had a secret plan for Iraq's oil once
> Saddam had been
> conquered.
>
> In fact there were two conflicting plans, setting
> off a hidden policy
> war between neo-conservatives at the Pentagon, on
> one side, versus a
> combination of "Big Oil" executives and US State
> Department
> "pragmatists".
>
> "Big Oil" appears to have won. The latest plan,
> obtained by Newsnight
> from the US State Department was, we learned,
> drafted with the help
> of American oil industry consultants.
>
> Insiders told Newsnight that planning began "within
> weeks" of Bush's
> first taking office in 2001, long before the
> September 11th attack on
> the US.
>
> An Iraqi-born oil industry consultant, Falah
> Aljibury, says he took
> part in the secret meetings in California,
> Washington and the Middle
> East. He described a State Department plan for a
> forced coup d'etat.
>
> Mr Aljibury himself told Newsnight that he
> interviewed potential
> successors to Saddam Hussein on behalf of the Bush
> administration.
>
> Secret sell-off plan
>
> The industry-favoured plan was pushed aside by a
> secret plan, drafted
> just before the invasion in 2003, which called for
> the sell-off of
> all of Iraq's oil fields. The new plan was crafted
> by
> neo-conservatives intent on using Iraq's oil to
> destroy the Opec
> cartel through massive increases in production above
> Opec quotas.
>
> The sell-off was given the green light in a secret
> meeting in London
> headed by Ahmed Chalabi shortly after the US entered
> Baghdad,
> according to Robert Ebel.
>
> Mr Ebel, a former Energy and CIA oil analyst, now a
> fellow at the
> Center for Strategic and International Studies in
> Washington, told
> Newsnight he flew to the London meeting at the
> request of the State
> Department.
>
> Mr Aljibury, once Ronald Reagan's "back-channel" to
> Saddam, claims
> that plans to sell off Iraq's oil, pushed by the
> US-installed
> Governing Council in 2003, helped instigate the
> insurgency and
> attacks on US and British occupying forces.
>
> "Insurgents used this, saying, 'Look, you're losing
> your country,
> you're losing your resources to a bunch of wealthy
> billionaires who
> want to take you over and make your life
> miserable,'" said Mr
> Aljibury from his home near San Francisco.
>
> "We saw an increase in the bombing of oil
> facilities, pipelines,
> built on the premise that privatisation is coming."
>
> Privatisation blocked by industry
>
> Philip Carroll, the former CEO of Shell Oil USA who
> took control of
> Iraq's oil production for the US Government a month
> after the
> invasion, stalled the sell-off scheme.
>
> Mr Carroll told us he made it clear to Paul Bremer,
> the US occupation
> chief who arrived in Iraq in May 2003, that: "There
> was to be no
> privatisation of Iraqi oil resources or facilities
> while I was
> involved."
>
> Ariel Cohen, of the neo-conservative Heritage
> Foundation, told
> Newsnight that an opportunity had been missed to
> privatise Iraq's oil
> fields.
>
> He advocated the plan as a means to help the US
> defeat Opec, and said
> America should have gone ahead with what he called a
> "no-brainer"
> decision.
>
> Mr Carroll hit back, telling Newsnight, "I would
> agree with that
> statement. To privatize would be a no-brainer. It
> would only be
> thought about by someone with no brain."
>
> New plans, obtained from the State Department by
> Newsnight and
> Harper's Magazine under the US Freedom of
> Information Act, called for
> creation of a state-owned oil company favoured by
> the US oil
> industry. It was completed in January 2004 under the
> guidance of Amy
> Jaffe of the James Baker Institute in Texas.
>
> Formerly US Secretary of State, Baker is now an
> attorney representing
> Exxon-Mobil and the Saudi Arabian government.
>
> View segments of Iraq oil plans at
> www.GregPalast.com
>
> Questioned by Newsnight, Ms Jaffe said the oil
> industry prefers state
> control of Iraq's oil over a sell-off because it
> fears a repeat of
> Russia's energy privatisation. In the wake of the
> collapse of the
> Soviet Union, US oil companies were barred from
> bidding for the
> reserves.
>
> Ms Jaffe says US oil companies are not warm to any
> plan that would
> undermine Opec and the current high oi

Re: [Biofuel] liquid glycerine

[Keith Addison]

It doesn't make any difference, other than that as you say it's a lot 
easier to work with when it's liquid. Please see:


How much glycerine? Why isn't it solid?
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make2.html#howmuchglyc

All is explained.

If you want liquid glyc by-product, use KOH, for details of which see 
the same page:


http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html
Make your own biodiesel: Journey to Forever

Best wishes

Keith



Hi,

I've been making Biodiesel (BD) for a few months, now.. using the Mike
Pelly method.. and a curious thing happened with the last batch (my batches
are in approx. 160 - 180 litres).. the glycerine was liquid after the
reaction. This is the first time this has occurred for me, all other times
the glycerine formed and settle in my tank, and was solid at low
temperatures.

I had measured accurately, the quantities of methanol, caustic soda and
volume of oil...( I had an interested observer, who can testify if
required!! :-)  ) I watched the colour of the mixture change, as I was
agitating, from a light caramel colour to a dark molasses colour... then
observed the glycerine start to settle, as expected. At this time the
glycerine was quite warm, so was still liquid, however, I let the mixture
settle for a 2 week period and the glycerine has not set firm. maybe I
should not complain.. 'cos it was easy to drain out of the tank! :-)

Did the reaction not go far enough?  Any further ideas on what has
happened??

regards,

Paul.
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Re: [Biofuel] liquid glycerine

[Jan Warnqvist]

Hello Paul.
It seems to me that you produced some soap that time. Did you measure the
FFA content before starting ?
Best regards
Jan Warnqvist
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>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I've been making Biodiesel (BD) for a few months, now.. using the Mike
> Pelly method.. and a curious thing happened with the last batch (my
batches
> are in approx. 160 - 180 litres).. the glycerine was liquid after the
> reaction. This is the first time this has occurred for me, all other times
> the glycerine formed and settle in my tank, and was solid at low
> temperatures.
>
> I had measured accurately, the quantities of methanol, caustic soda and
> volume of oil...( I had an interested observer, who can testify if
> required!! :-)  ) I watched the colour of the mixture change, as I was
> agitating, from a light caramel colour to a dark molasses colour... then
> observed the glycerine start to settle, as expected. At this time the
> glycerine was quite warm, so was still liquid, however, I let the mixture
> settle for a 2 week period and the glycerine has not set firm. maybe I
> should not complain.. 'cos it was easy to drain out of the tank! :-)
>
> Did the reaction not go far enough?  Any further ideas on what has
> happened??
>
> regards,
>
> Paul.
> ---
> Paul Tanner
> Software IT Architect
> Melbourne, Australia
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Re: [Biofuel] Secret US plans for Iraq's oil

[Doug Foskey]

Firstly, Keith: good to see you back! Hope all is well with your health now 
(or the future is rosy).

Hakan,
 you have reflected my sentiments exactly. I too think it is time the Western 
world woke up to the fact that so many in this world have so little. It is 
time the resources were spread more equitably.

regards Doug

On Wednesday 30 March 2005 8:52, Hakan Falk wrote:
> Phillip,
>
> It is multiple sources and some of them quite credible. The worst thing is
> that it is collaborated by real events.
>
> In the past, the general view towards Americans was a love/irritation
> relationship. When I was working in US and decided to move back to Europe.
> My  American friends could not understand it. They claimed that I missed
> chance, I was an immigrant that US wanted and would encourage to stay and
> get citizenship. My answer was that despite it is no other place that have
> so much toys for grown ups, I felt like living on an isolated Island with a
> dominant population of children.
>
> I am today very upset and disturbed. In my life I worked a lot with US and
> have many dear American friends. George W. Bush, his administration and
> cohorts, have made my dear friends look like dangerous and corrupted
> lunatics. I am also very worried, because the love/irritation relationship
> has been transcended to a hate relationship. Where Americans, women and
> children often says "you do not like me", to get a confirmation on that
> this is not the case, I have never felt that it was hate. What I see and
> hear now, is signs of real hate towards the Americans in the rest of the
> world and it is not promising. I only hope that this will change with the
> term limitation of George W. Bush and that he will not succeed with a
> Hitler like coup to prolong his reign.
>
> This feeling of an eternal conflict situation, is not good for me and the
> world.
>
> Hakan
>
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Re: [Biofuel] Cladisporium resinae

[Jan Warnqvist]

Hi Phil,
are you referring to the plant producing castor oil ?
Best regards
Jan Warnqvist
AGERATEC AB

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Subject: [Biofuel] Cladisporium resinae


Hi there good people,
does anyone out there have any experience of the growth of this organism in
Bio? I've had a lot to do with it in my capacity as an aircraft Engineer and
it's got rid of ( or kept under control at least ) by the addition of some
pretty toxic chemicals to the fuel which effectively act as a "weedkiller"
for want of a better expression.
Look forward to any response.

Phil Lloyd
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Re: [Biofuel] Where's Keith?

[subramanian D.V]

Dear Mr.Keith,
I'll try to contribute on topics which you 've suggested after I return to my 
base at Chennai.
 
Regards,
 
D.V.S
Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Dear D.V.

Nice to hear from you again.

>Dear Mr. Keith,
>I 've just come to know that you were hospitalied and back on the 
>road to recovery. I pray for yr speedy recovery to normalcy and the 
>good work you have been at.

Thankyou!

>Hindu philosophy says that goodwork done for the community without 
>expecting any return has its own rewards during yr current tenure 
>(life) or the next .

I completely agree with that. I also think though that you can find 
similar beliefs in all philosophies and cultures (though it may take 
a little digging!).

I should say though that my reservations in the previous message are 
not about returns and rewards but more about what's worth doing and 
whether some things are more worth doing than others. I've said all 
this before, I've been saying it for a long time. Running this 
Biofuel list has been something of a labour of Sisyphus for us at 
Journey to Forever. We did not expect any reward for it, but it has 
held us back from doing our other work, also work done for the 
community without any expectation of reward, but work we felt is more 
important to us than the Biofuel list is. Journey to Forever is about 
combating hunger and poverty in a rich world, about sustainability - 
more important subjects than biofuels. Of course biofuels are a part 
of that, but it has consumed a quite disproportionate amount of our 
available time and resources (and still does). This should not be the 
case - this list should very largely be able to run itself as a 
self-moderating community without very much input from us. It's shown 
that it is capable of that, and that it's what most of the members 
want, but it's erratic. It needs to be able to stand on its own feet. 
If it still has to depend on me, after all this time, then I must 
deem it a failure.

What takes time? Maintaining and administering the list takes a lot 
of time, all the invisible stuff nobody sees. I just posted a bunch 
of news items, which I often do (and so do others), but that doesn't 
take any time, the stuff arrives of its own accord, I just select and 
forward it; I'll post a further bunch of stuff from DieselNet a bit 
later, that doesn't take any time either. But when Pan said I'm 
needed to make the list dynamic, "There is need for your reply of 
many post here", I don't think he was referring to those posts. I've 
written a lot of posts on all aspects of sustainability, community 
self-reliance, appropriate technology and so on, all pertinent to 
biofuels issues (IMO), and that does take time. And it's what makes 
it worthwhile from Journey to Forever's point of view. But it just 
doesn't seem to go anywhere, it doesn't get the ball rolling, very 
few people ever pick it up and take it further. Yet a lot of people 
have told me that they really appreciate that input from me. And I 
suppose it has helped to give the list its scope and character. If I 
stopped doing it, what would happen? Would the list continue to 
develop as a forum for discussion of biofuels issues in their true 
context of global sustainability, or would it degenerate into endless 
rehashings of where to buy your methanol and what to do with the 
washwater? Which is all in the archives anyway, many times over. Do 
we go forward, or do we just go round and round?

These are some of the things Pan has said, to which I referred, with 
which I very much agree, and plenty of others here do too:

>... to make our list as uniquely
>balanced international forum to provide useful solution to rural
>energy crisis.Surely 2005 or list can do better tthan 2004 , if all
>of us can spent some time to our group and giving the heping hand.
>
>I wish a happy 2005 and look forward exchange of information not only
>biofuel for rural region , but also our list members projects for
>ruralization of urban areas, of curse certainly with the useful
>ecologically sound biofuel projects

Read this one:

http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/Week-of-Mon-20050124/005235.html
[Biofuel] Global poverty ,WSF and Brazil

>... The thin posting here, as Keith pointed out , I feel is lack of
>main subject thread for debate and discussion such as biogas ethanol
>form biomass, Diesel from wastes. etc
>
> We need to depend posts on tecnical subjects and new informations.
>
>For example,some thread for debate are: The best way to make methane
>from solid wates, which are complex subject that need integration of
>two process composting with bioconversion of methane .
> But conventional composting will not do the job , then enzymatic one
>is not practical on as Keith used point out the lab to
>internationall articall only.What is the best way?
>
> We also need here new information flow here ,as our list members are
>really sleeping.

And this:

http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/Week-of-Mon-20050207/005726.ht

RE: [Biofuel] Set up help

[Gene Chaffin]

Jeremy:  I started with an 8KW china diesel which runs at 2000rpm and
consumed .8 gallons per hour.  I now do not consider these china diesels
capable of 24/7 operation, eventhough I did get 6,200 hours out of one.  I
am now using a Detroit 2-71 12 KW genset which consumes 1.1 gallons per hour
of wvo.  I have only been using the Detroit genset for two weeks now but I
do like the fact that it revolves at a slow 1200 rpm and does not have a
fuel injection pump like most diesel engines.  I don't just produce
electricity I also use the waste heat from the cooling system as well as the
waste heat from the exhaust.  The waste heat is used to heat up the vege oil
and warm the water on my fish farm so the little rascals don't go into
hybernation.  If you make use of all of the parasitic heat available from
your genset you will have no problem running straight veg oil, I don't care
if you live in Alaska.  It freezes where I am and I still had to install a
swamp cooler to keep the generator room comfortable.  Make use of the water
jacket heat and exhaust heat to provide your domestic hot water and heat
your house.  I have not had any fuel system maladies.  Most of the problems
I was experiencing with the China diesels was with the valve train...they
needed valve jobs every 2000 hours.  My learning curve is rather long at
this point so don't hesitate to pick my brain as you progress.  I am now in
the process of installing a 20 KW Northern Lights genset which has a similar
engine to your Isuzu.  It has the Bosh/Kiki fuel injection pump.  I do not
expect to have any problems with that conversion to wvo.  Good luck. Gene
Chaffin  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Set up help


Luke and Gene,

Running straight WVO through your genset is great if you life in sunny
california,  but I would not rely on that in Missoula.  WVO in Missoula
would require a hefty investment in time and materials to create an
environment equal to that of california in a shed.  Also, it is very
difficult to collect WVO oil in freezing temps, or do anything with WVO in
freezing temps.  I have a 12k isuzu generator that I am hoping to run with a
diesel/biofuel mix.  I think the best we could do is Biofuel in the summer
and a mix in the winter, something greater than 50/50.  I think it would be
best to process your fuel in the summer, and store it with diesel for the
winter.  That would require knowing how much fuel you would need over the
winter, probably close to a half gallon an hour for you lister petter.

Gene: could you describe your generator, what load you run, how much fuel
you burn, how long you run it, how old is it, how often do you maintain the
fuel system, any unexpected problems.
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 8:41 PM
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Set up help


> Luke: Don't bother making biodiesel for your stationary genset.  Simply
> filter the wvo to 5 microns, heat it to 160 degrees and burn it directly
in
> your genset.  I've been doing this for over a year now with my stationary
> genset, running it 24/7 with no ill effects.  Good luck. Gene, from the
wild
> beaches of San Diego,CA
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of WM LUKE MATHISEN
> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 11:39 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Biofuel] Set up help
>
>
> Hello out there in biofuel land!
>
> I live in Montana near Missoula, off the grid, our primary energy source
is
> solar and our backup is a recently acquired diesel generator, to be
precise
> a 7500 watt Lister Petter, prior to that we used a converted propane
> generator.  We are very happy with the switch to diesel (it reduced our
fuel
> costs by 2/3rds).  Every week I go into Missoula (I am an accountant) and
> work at a restaurant.  The restaurant pays $25 per month to get rid of
their
> used waste oil.  I could very easily pick up waste oil from that
restaurant
> (and other restaurants) and bring it back to make biodiesel for my
> generator.  My concerns are fuel quality so I don't end up damaging my
> generator and attracting bears (we had 2 house break-ins last fall).  I am
> looking at producing 50-100 gals per month in the winter (sometimes we
will
> go two weeks or more with no direct sunlight, or "no solar-days" as I call
> them) and half that in the summer.  What will my startup costs be?  How
much
> space will I need, for production and storage? How much time will I need
to
> spend in production once it is set up?
>
> I am currently in the process of planning a enclosure for the generator
and
> it seemed to make since to include space for making and storing the
> biodisel.
>
> Can someone point me in the right direction?
>
> Luke
> >From the wild hills of Montana
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Re: [Biofuel] Bio Willie

[Kenneth Kron (CEO)]

   Well I thought I'd do a little research as the National Press Club,
   which does host very distinguished invited speakers very frequently,
   and is an organization that I hold in fairly high esteem.  It turns
   out that the National Press Club does not list any event including any
   Joseph Newman so while he may be hosting his "News Conference" at the
   NPC he is not speaking to the NPC a big difference.  So unless there's
   been some mistake on the press clubs event listing it looks like a
   manufactured grab for legitimacy.
   Keith Addison wrote:

 Hi Bob
 It's a hardy perennial - it last came up two years ago, with much
 amusement over such things as the magical gas pump that never runs
 out, the wonders of poteen, green cheese, and pickled leprechauns
 (hence their scarcity), along with an expert opinion that
 heavier-than-air machines do indeed not fly. I think your advice on
 wallets might be apt. Whatever happened to Dennis Lee?

 No disrespect Scott, but you must also be new to thermodynamics.
 Newman's BS has been around for years, but that's all it is. What
 is it about magnets that so mystify people?

 Hmm... another hardy perennial... I do hope we aren't going to have
 magnets strapped to our fuel lines again. That makes for serious
 flame wars, judging from past experience. I think I banned them at
 one stage, didn't I? By popular demand.
 Best
 Keith

 From His webpage:
 "In other words, the revolutionary nature of this system is the
 fact that Joseph Newman has discovered a new electromagnetic
 principle of nature and has innovated a technology capable of
 converting mass (copper coil) into energy (in accordance with
 E=mc^2) via a highly efficient electromagnetic reaction rather than
 an inefficient fission reaction."
 Hold on to you wallet if he is around.
 Scott wrote:
 

 Oh, I almost forgot.  For those interested in other forms of
 alternate energy, there will be a press conference at the National
 Press Club next Monday afternoon.
 Joseph Newman will explain and demonstrates his newest energy
 machine prototype
 1pm Monday, March 28, 2005 - Energy News Conference
 - DC National Press Club -
 - NEW ENERGY TECHNOLOGY DEMO -
 Newman Energy Machine News Conference
 [1]http://www.josephnewman.com
 Joseph Newman will display/demonstrate his newest energy machine
 that is a quantum leap above his earlier energy machine technology.
 As the price of oil escalates, Joseph Newman's energy machine is an
 inexpensive, non-polluting electromagnetic source for the world's
 energy needs.
 This technology provides access to virtually unlimited energy that
 is abundant, inexpensive, and environmentally-friendly.
 The Newman energy machine is an electromagnetic motor that runs
 COOL (unlike ALL conventional motors) and harnesses the elemental
 forces of the universe in accordance with the 1st Law of
 Thermodynamics.
 The Newman energy machine will provide a stable and durable
 alternative to oil, gas, coal, and nuclear energy sources.
 This technology will power every automobile, home, appliance, farm,
 factory, ship, and plane at a FRACTION of the present cost of
 energy.
 A worldwide inexpensive energy source will have profound
 geopolitical implications for the Middle East.

   --

   Kenneth Kron
   President Bay Area Biofuel
   [2]http://www.bayareabiofuel.com/
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Phone: 415-867-8067
   What you can do, or dream you can do, begin it!
   Boldness has genius, power and magic in it.
   [4]Johann Wolfgang von Goethe.

References

   1. http://www.josephnewman.com/
   2. http://www.bayareabiofuel.com/
   3. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faust
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[Biofuel] Cladisporium resinae

[Phil & Elaine]

Hi there good people,
does anyone out there have any experience of the growth of this organism in 
Bio? I've had a lot to do with it in my capacity as an aircraft Engineer and 
it's got rid of ( or kept under control at least ) by the addition of some 
pretty toxic chemicals to the fuel which effectively act as a "weedkiller" for 
want of a better expression.
Look forward to any response.

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Re: [Biofuel] Re: A quest to ruin the Earth

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Wow, This information sounds SO drastic.  I will imediatly build a time 
machine and return to a time when there was no offshore drilling in the Gulf of 
Mexico.  The increased harvest of commercial fish that is now happening must be 
stopped.  I will tell the People on their soap boxes that were saying death to 
the sea if we drill there that the narrow minded people of the future are here 
to help them stop the drilling. I will also buy a large supply of plugs and 
go around the world plugging the cracks in the earth  that leak the equivalent 
of TWO Exxon Valdeese tankers of oil into the sea every day.  I now see that 
this is killing the world.   
Farmer Paul

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Re: [Biofuel] fuel emissions request

[Craig Harris]

Even,
Here are some stats! 
http://www.gobluesun.com/html/benefits.html#
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  Hello Evan

  >Hello All,
  >
  >Somehow or another I was put on this bioiuel email list (I dont know 
  >how) but its great, so thank you to whoever put me on this list.

  Um, you did - nobody puts anyone on this list except themselves. You 
  applied at the end of January and were asked by the List 
  administration for further details, which you provided, describing 
  your processor on a trailer. But then there was a glitch: your 
  subscription should have gone through immediately but it got stuck in 
  the system somehow, where I discovered it a couple of days ago. A 
  swift kick dislodged it like a cork from a champagne bottle, and here 
  you are. Sorry about that, I'm pleased you're happy about it.

  Best wishes

  Keith Addison
  Journey to Forever
  KYOTO Pref., Japan
  http://journeytoforever.org/
  Biofuel list owner

   

  >For the past 2 years, I have been working on my biodiesel project, 
  >as kind of my engineering hobby. Its a fully functional processor 
  >trailler mounted with all push-button operations. I am neering the 
  >finish of my machine, and hope to work with it and students here at 
  >Unity College in Maine (americas env. college) 
www.unity.edu. I hope 
  >next year to get this college to make there own fuel, as we always 
  >try to lead by example. For my statistics project this semester, I 
  >am trying to figure out if biodiesel either has a significantly less 
  >amount of power than diesel fuel, or if biodiesel emits a 
  >significantly less amount of toxins. DOES anyone have the data I 
  >need to do either of these problems, I cant seem to find anothing on 
  >the web?
  >
  >Much thanks and I hope to be able to work with all who are out there 
  >to make biodiesel work.
  >
  >Evan Franklin
  >Deputy Chief, Unity Search & Rescue,
  >Dispatcher, Operation Game Thief,
  >Unity College, Unity Maine
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[Biofuel] liquid glycerine

[Paul Tanner]

Hi,

I've been making Biodiesel (BD) for a few months, now.. using the Mike
Pelly method.. and a curious thing happened with the last batch (my batches
are in approx. 160 - 180 litres).. the glycerine was liquid after the
reaction. This is the first time this has occurred for me, all other times
the glycerine formed and settle in my tank, and was solid at low
temperatures.

I had measured accurately, the quantities of methanol, caustic soda and
volume of oil...( I had an interested observer, who can testify if
required!! :-)  ) I watched the colour of the mixture change, as I was
agitating, from a light caramel colour to a dark molasses colour... then
observed the glycerine start to settle, as expected. At this time the
glycerine was quite warm, so was still liquid, however, I let the mixture
settle for a 2 week period and the glycerine has not set firm. maybe I
should not complain.. 'cos it was easy to drain out of the tank! :-)

Did the reaction not go far enough?  Any further ideas on what has
happened??

regards,

Paul.
---
Paul Tanner
Software IT Architect
Melbourne, Australia

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Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel processor

[Craig Harris]

Hello Keith,
Well this project is for demonstration purposes only; maybe 5-20 gallons! 
However it must be pretty and state of the art or I will not get my target 
audience. The media! coupled with schools and parks! The idea is get consumers 
interested! Yes I could strap an Apple seed to a trailer; but that's not what I 
want. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Keith Addison 
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  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel processor


  Hello Busyditch, Craig and all

  >Someone posted a link a few months back to a person building just such  a
  >trailer and selling it on ebay.I believe he was in Pennsylvania. He hasnt
  >had any up for a while, as I have been looking , but he may be coerced into
  >building another. Maybe someone else has this link? I did not save it.

  This one, I think:

  
http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/Week-of-Mon-20041227/004293.html
  [Biofuel] Anyone know anything about this on ebay?

  Anyway, just put a processor set-up on a trailer, what's the problem? 
  Mike Pelly's first processor was on a trailer, and so is his latest 
  version, or it can be, or I think so anyway:

  
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor11.html
  Pelly "Model A" processor - Journey to Forever

  
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_mike.html
  Biodiesel recipe from Mike Pelly: Journey to Forever

  (Hey, Mike, great to see you here again, by the way! And thanks for 
  the nice words.)

  Luc's processor's in a cabinet, but I guess it could just as easily 
  be on a trailer.

  
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor12.html
  Luc's processor-in-a-cabinet

  Keith


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  >Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:42 PM
  >Subject: [Biofuel] Biodiesel processor
  >
  >
  >I am looking for a processor that I can pull around the Denver area on a
  >trailer promoting biodiesel!
  >Craig Harris

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Re: [Biofuel] Mobil Biodiesel Processor

[francisco j burgos]

Please send us plans when you get mobil unit.
Tks,
Francisco
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Hello Francisco,
Hopefully Blue Sun will help out, it would help in two ways; by promoting 
biodiesel and their company. If I can't get a big corp. to help then I will 
go with someone smaller and promote their processor! Either way I am going 
to educate the masses on the fact that there is alternatives.
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 Dear Mr. Harris:
 Excellent idea...!!!.
 Pls keep in touch.
 Francisco.

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 I am looking for a processor that I can pull around the Denver area on a
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Re: [Biofuel] Ethanol runs mini hydogen fuel cells

[Thomas Mountain]

thanks for the info, I am interested in acquiring a hydrogen fuel cell that
can be converted to run on ethanol for our family farm project in the Horn
of Africa and our future fishing and tourism project. any leads?
selam,
tom

> From: Phillip Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ethanol runs mini hydogen fuel cells
> 
> Thomas, Regarding ethanol and methanol. I spoke with a
> gentlmen named David Devrie at Genesis Fuel Technology
> involved in methanol and ethanol reformers.
> http://www.genesisfueltech.com/index.html
> 
> He said methanol is easier to "crack and catalyze"
> than ethanol because it has only "one carbon" and the
> ethanol as "two carbons".  Therefore the methanol
> requires less energy in the energy balance equation
> versus ethanol. BUT there are lots of government
> incentives to use ethanol.
> 
> He said they make the "reformers that provide the
> hydrogen" for the fuel cell. And you hook up the the
> reformer to a fuel cell.  Something like "middleware"
> in the software business.  But they plan to come out
> with complete turnkey.  But business is tough.
> 
> 
> 
> --- Thomas Mountain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> The Japanese have developed small hydrogen fuel
>> cells  using ethanol stored
>> in a container based on the disposable cigarette
>> lighter technology to power
>> small appliances like laptop computers etc.
>> Obviously, to be able to produce
>> your own ethanol and run hydrogen fuel cells with it
>> is a major advance in
>> power production and sustainability, and should be
>> the basis for a new
>> transportation breakthrough in power plant
>> technology.
>> Has anyone heard anything more on this, I only saw a
>> television documentary
>> on the matter?
>> selam,
>> tom 
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Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel processor

[Evan Franklin]

Is this legal to do, build and sell a processor on ebay or are there copyrights 
to it, i was just wondering


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>Hello Busyditch, Craig and all
>
>>Someone posted a link a few months back to a person building just such  a
>>trailer and selling it on ebay.I believe he was in Pennsylvania. He hasnt
>>had any up for a while, as I have been looking , but he may be coerced into
>>building another. Maybe someone else has this link? I did not save it.
>
>This one, I think:
>
>http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/Week-of-Mon-20041227/004293.html
>[Biofuel] Anyone know anything about this on ebay?
>
>Anyway, just put a processor set-up on a trailer, what's the problem? 
>Mike Pelly's first processor was on a trailer, and so is his latest 
>version, or it can be, or I think so anyway:
>
>http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor11.html
>Pelly "Model A" processor - Journey to Forever
>
>http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_mike.html
>Biodiesel recipe from Mike Pelly: Journey to Forever
>
>(Hey, Mike, great to see you here again, by the way! And thanks for 
>the nice words.)
>
>Luc's processor's in a cabinet, but I guess it could just as easily 
>be on a trailer.
>
>http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor12.html
>Luc's processor-in-a-cabinet
>
>Keith
>
>
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>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:42 PM
>>Subject: [Biofuel] Biodiesel processor
>>
>>
>>I am looking for a processor that I can pull around the Denver area on a
>>trailer promoting biodiesel!
>>Craig Harris
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RE: [Biofuel] Mapping The Oil Motive

[Hakan Falk]

Tom,

You are in the best case right, but I think that the crises is less
than one generation (20 years) away. The statement you make
have no support in known facts, especially since the usage growth
rate seems to be grossly underestimated. The reserves from the
Oil companies has already been proven to be over estimated,
with almost a third for Shell only.

Hakan



At 09:59 PM 3/29/2005, you wrote:

Hi All,

I am an environmental scientist by education and my latest research is on
sustainable development. As near as I can tell there is no shortage of oil.
There may be shortages of production, shortages of distribution but for at
least another generation there will be no shortage of oil due to lack of
material. Here is the key reasoning. We still have not tapped all the
available reserves on land. All the Gulf war stuff is about underdeveloped
Iraqi oil and the as yet untouched and shallow (read highly profitable) oil
in the Azerbijan region. Oil is produced under oceans. Although we have
found most of the terrestrial based oil, it represents only 1/8 the planets
surface area. That leaves 7/8 of the planet where we have hardly begun the
search for new sources. A recent National Geographic article displayed new
technology that was enabling drilling off the continental shelf in water
1500 feet deep. Now oil from that depth won't be cheap but it still will be
available. With prices at $57/ barrel it becomes economically feasable to
look even deeper.

The point and the problem is that there will be no lack of oil. The problem
will be from the climate change that is already here and will only worsen as
we convert fossilized carbon from solid and liquid from into gaseous carbon
dioxide. I recently rewrote a global warming headline, " Hemingway turns in
his grave as the Snows of Kilamanjaro dissappear from the Earth forever.
That's the problem folks.

Sincerely,

Tom Irwin


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Subject: [Biofuel] Mapping The Oil Motive

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/mapping_the_oil_motive.php

Mapping The Oil Motive

Michael T. Klare

March 18, 2005

The Bush administration has publicly advanced a number of reasons for
going to war in Iraq, from WMDs to the Iraqi people's need for
liberation. Michael Klare reviews the evidence that securing
America's source of oil was a decisive factor in the White House's
decision to invade-and looks at whether the administration succeeded.

Michael T. Klare is a professor of peace and world security studies
at Hampshire College and the author, most recently, of Blood and Oil:
The Dangers and Consequences of America's Growing Petroleum
Dependency (Metropolitan Books)

What role did oil play in the U.S. decision to invade Iraq?  If oil
did play a significant role, what, exactly, did President Bush and
his associates hope to accomplish in this regard? To what degree did
they succeed? These are questions that will no doubt occupy analysts
for many years to come, but that can and should be answered now-as
the American people debate the validity of the invasion and Bush
administration gears up for a possible war against Iran under
circumstances very similar to those prevailing in Iraq in early 2003.

In addressing these questions, it should be noted that the U.S.
invasion of Iraq was a matter of choice, not of necessity. The United
States did not act in response to an aggressive move by a hostile
power directed against this country or one of its allies, but rather
employed force on its own volition to advance (what the
administration viewed as) U.S. national interests. This means that we
cannot identify a precipitating action for war, but instead must
examine the calculus of costs and benefits that persuaded President
Bush to invade Iraq at that particular moment.  On one side of this
ledger were the disincentives to war: the loss of American lives, the
expenditure of vast sums of money and the alienation of America's
allies.  To outweigh these negatives, and opt for war, would require
powerful incentives. But what were they? This is the question that
has so bedeviled pundits and analysts since the onset of combat.

It is highly doubtful that any one factor tipped the balance toward
invasion.  A war of choice is rarely precipitated by a single
objective, but rather stems from a combination of contributing
factors.  In this case, many come to mind: legitimate concern over
Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction; an inclination to
demonstrate the effectiveness of the administration's "pre-emptive"
war doctrine; increased security for Israel; the promotion of
democracy in the Middle East; U.S. domination of the Persian Gulf
region; and a thirst for Iraqi oil.  All of these, and possibly
others, are likely to have figured to some degree in the president's
decision to invade.  What is difficult is to ascertain is how these
factors were ranked in the administration's calculus; what we can do,
however, is to pu

Re: [Biofuel] Secret US plans for Iraq's oil

[Ken Provost]

On Mar 29, 2005, at 4:20 PM, Phillip Wolfe wrote:



.. we concluded that the US is a bag full of
independent states and texans are always seen as a bit
different by us US'ns.  Hey - texas was a "dang
republic" at one time and wanted to be seperate for
the US.  And everyone here knows that you "don't mess
with those texans" (remember theh Alamo).

So on the lighter side of things, yes, there are
certainly differences - I think.   I am partial to
California. But then again, my Southern Califorina
buddies want to cecede from Northern California.  And
some people in the Southwest still think its part of
Mexico..(The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo).



Personally, I'm looking forward to the eventual
"Balkanization" of the US -- it probably won't happen
in my lifetime, but you never know, and it's sure to happen
eventually. As a confederation of strong states, US made
sense -- as a single centralized entity a la Soviet Union
or Yugoslavia, it doesn't.

-K

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Re: [Biofuel] Secret US plans for Iraq's oil

[Phillip Wolfe]

Dear Hakan,

Thanks for your observations. I do love Europe. I
traveled to Ireland, England, France and Spain. But
Since I am born in US and in order to "lighten things
up" in this heavy discussion. Here are some
interesting comments with my buddies - some are real
blue collar some are real white collar office types:

My breakfast buddies and I have a running discussion
on how "texans" are sooo different from
"californians" and how "vermontians" are soo
different than "floridians" and so forth. As a matter
of fact we concluded that the US is a bag full of
independent states and texans are always seen as a bit
different by us US'ns.  Hey - texas was a "dang
republic" at one time and wanted to be seperate for
the US.  And everyone here knows that you "don't mess
with those texans" (remember theh Alamo).

So on the lighter side of things, yes, there are
certainly differences - I think.   I am partial to
California. But then again, my Southern Califorina
buddies want to cecede from Northern California.  And
some people in the Southwest still think its part of
Mexico..(The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo).

But I think every country goes through this. For
example my grandmothter had land in another country
but had to flee during a revolution and came to the
US. But my granpa was born here and so was his dad,
and his dad and so forth. 

I do love Europe. I traveled to Ireland, England,
France and Spain.


--- Hakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Phillip,
> 
> It is multiple sources and some of them quite
> credible. The worst thing is 
> that it is collaborated by real events.
> 
> In the past, the general view towards Americans was
> a love/irritation 
> relationship. When I was working in US and decided
> to move back to Europe. 
> My  American friends could not understand it. They
> claimed that I missed 
> chance, I was an immigrant that US wanted and would
> encourage to stay and 
> get citizenship. My answer was that despite it is no
> other place that have 
> so much toys for grown ups, I felt like living on an
> isolated Island with a 
> dominant population of children.
> 
> I am today very upset and disturbed. In my life I
> worked a lot with US and 
> have many dear American friends. George W. Bush, his
> administration and 
> cohorts, have made my dear friends look like
> dangerous and corrupted 
> lunatics. I am also very worried, because the
> love/irritation relationship 
> has been transcended to a hate relationship. Where
> Americans, women and 
> children often says "you do not like me", to get a
> confirmation on that 
> this is not the case, I have never felt that it was
> hate. What I see and 
> hear now, is signs of real hate towards the
> Americans in the rest of the 
> world and it is not promising. I only hope that this
> will change with the 
> term limitation of George W. Bush and that he will
> not succeed with a 
> Hitler like coup to prolong his reign.
> 
> This feeling of an eternal conflict situation, is
> not good for me and the 
> world.
> 
> Hakan
> 
> 
> At 10:45 PM 3/29/2005, you wrote:
> >holy Mackeral!  How credible are the sources?
> >
> >--- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > >
>
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/4354269.stm
> > > BBC NEWS | Programmes | Newsnight | Secret US
> plans
> > > for Iraq's oil
> > >
> > > Secret US plans for Iraq's oil
> > >
> > > by Greg Palast
> > >
> > > The Bush administration made plans for war and
> for
> > > Iraq's oil before
> > > the 9/11 attacks, sparking a policy battle
> between
> > > neo-cons and Big
> > > Oil, BBC's Newsnight has revealed.
> > >
> > > Two years ago today - when President George Bush
> > > announced US,
> > > British and Allied forces would begin to bomb
> > > Baghdad - protesters
> > > claimed the US had a secret plan for Iraq's oil
> once
> > > Saddam had been
> > > conquered.
> > >
> > > In fact there were two conflicting plans,
> setting
> > > off a hidden policy
> > > war between neo-conservatives at the Pentagon,
> on
> > > one side, versus a
> > > combination of "Big Oil" executives and US State
> > > Department
> > > "pragmatists".
> > >
> > > "Big Oil" appears to have won. The latest plan,
> > > obtained by Newsnight
> > > from the US State Department was, we learned,
> > > drafted with the help
> > > of American oil industry consultants.
> > >
> > > Insiders told Newsnight that planning began
> "within
> > > weeks" of Bush's
> > > first taking office in 2001, long before the
> > > September 11th attack on
> > > the US.
> > >
> > > An Iraqi-born oil industry consultant, Falah
> > > Aljibury, says he took
> > > part in the secret meetings in California,
> > > Washington and the Middle
> > > East. He described a State Department plan for a
> > > forced coup d'etat.
> > >
> > > Mr Aljibury himself told Newsnight that he
> > > interviewed potential
> > > successors to Saddam Hussein on behalf of the
> Bush
> > > administration.
> > >
> > > Secret sell-off plan
> > >
>