[Talk-de] railway=crossing für Straßenbahnen auf Straßen

[Samuel Kutter]

Hallo allerseits,

mir ist aufgefallen, dass es in München stellenweise sehr viele
railway=crossings gibt und zwar für normale, städtische Straßen mit
Straßenbahnen.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/48.13784/11.58675

Siehe: https://goo.gl/maps/xG37ixM2ftBaPsMk7

Meines Erachtens ist dies nicht nötig bzw. sogar schädlich, dann es
überfrachtet die Karte und verwirrt* ggf. Navis.

Man würde doch annehmen, dass crossing auch irgendwie spezielle Anlagen
sowohl auf der Straße als auch auf der Schiene impliziert, also
Schranken, Ampeln, Andreaskreuze, Stoppschilder, spezielle Übergänge
(Holzstege o. ä.) etc. In einer Stadt mit Tram ist das natürlich in der
Regel nicht der Fall

Wenn, dann macht railway=crossing Sinn bei extra Tramtrassen, die z. B.
nicht zu befahren oder gar nicht befahrbar sind, vielleicht abgetrennt
und/oder mit Schotter/Gras gefüllt etc. etc., so dass ein Crossing eben
spezielle Straßenanlagen impliziert und der Verkehr nicht
'natürlicherweise' kreuzt oder "mitfährt".

Wie seht Ihr das?

Changeset Diskussion und direkte Ansprache des Nutzers ergab bisher nichts:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/74791959

Viele Grüße

sakudo


* Ich weiß, ich weiß: do not tag for renderer...

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Re: [Talk-africa] [Talk-gh] [OSM-Talk-ZA] Fwd: [Osmf-talk] SotM 2020

[Samuel Darkwah Manu via Talk-africa]

Hi Bernelle,
I'm Samuel, a member of the OSM Ghana team. I have added my name to the team. 
Ready to contribute my quota to the first SOTM global conference in Africa.
Kind regards,Samuel Darkwah Manu

 

On Friday, 30 August 2019, 18:48:10 GMT, Bernelle Verster 
 wrote:  
 
 Many thanks Enock

I agree a dedicated, local team is needed, and am confident we will
further supplement the already good team we have [1]. Michael Graaf,
board member of Wikimedia-ZA, was already one of the first to sign up.

The bid as it stands is as much as I'm able to do before the deadline
tomorrow. Others are welcome to add/edit as needed.

[1] 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_2020/Call_for_venues/CapeTown#Team

best regards
Bernelle

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 8:30 PM Enock Seth Nyamador  wrote:
>
> Hi Bernelle,
>
> Great convo! Cape Town hosted 2018 Wikimania [1] and will be a good bet for 
> SOTM global of course. IMHO a really dedicated and especially local team is 
> needed to pull off this. Persons with SOTM experience should be a plus. Their 
> could be lot of remote interest though; but commitment is a possible issue.
>
> Better still doing doing this with Wikimedia ZA  could be a better deal like 
> from 2017 [2] cc @David Richfield
>
> 1. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2018
> 2. https://blog.wikimedia.org/2017/09/22/community-digest-italy-sotm/
>
> Le jeu. 29 août 2019 à 19:52, David Richfield  a 
> écrit :
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'll be attending this year's SOTM in Heidelberg, because it's just
>> around the corner from where I live (Worms). If there's anyone I can
>> speak to or anything I can find out while I'm there, let me know.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 at 14:53, Edson Nicolai via Talk-ZA
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Bernelle,
>> >
>> > I‘ve added my name to the list. I’ll be checking back to see if there’s 
>> > any update.
>> >
>> > Cheers.
>> >
>> > Ed Nicolai
>> >
>> > Music Video/TV Ad Director - Motion Graphics
>> >
>> > Namibia: +264 81 43 31 374
>> > Angola: +244 945 75 23 11
>> > Zambia: +260 967617783
>> >
>> > eddynico...@me.com - eddynico...@gmail.com [for emergencies only]
>> >
>> > > On 28 Aug 2019, at 1:36 PM, Bernelle Verster  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi Edson
>> > >
>> > > Replying to all for interest:
>> > >
>> > > Team:
>> > > I need team members listed on the page to show strength of numbers,
>> > > basically. So, for starters, please add your name (thanks Geoffrey!).
>> > > Also, please share this bid to your networks!
>> > >
>> > > Insider knowledge:
>> > > I don't know the OSM community nor do I know the SotM format. I have
>> > > organised the Debian Conference in Cape Town before (DebConf16), which
>> > > I think is a similar culture.
>> > >
>> > > Format:
>> > > My interest in getting involved, and also my concern that I may
>> > > 'corrupt' the format, is that I am interested in using OSM in games,
>> > > urban metabolism visualisations and information design, and organising
>> > > a conference is a great way to learn and connect. I would like the
>> > > conference to have tracks addressing these things, which hopefully
>> > > would also incentivise creatives and people who otherwise may not be
>> > > interested in OSS mapping stuff to attend - bringing new blood and
>> > > pretty things. I need help to keep the conference true to the SotM
>> > > format.
>> > >
>> > > Remote participation:
>> > > For accessibility, but also for the increasing concern about
>> > > (long-haul) flights and climate change, I would like a greater
>> > > emphasis on remote participation. Ideally, an avatar in a virtual
>> > > world :) Like, SimCity for OSM! (not that far fetched, but probably a
>> > > lot of work) Ideas needed on how to improve accessibility here.
>> > >
>> > > Location:
>> > > My current favourite is the University of Cape Town Rondebosch campus,
>> > > as I know how things work there and we have a staff member on the team
>> > > (DebConf16 was held there). I still need a letter of support from a
>> > > relevant department/faculty to give us a venue discount. Does this
>> > > suit people in terms of access, transport, whatever? Other ideas? If
>> > > anyone wants to h

Re: [Talk-ht] Challenge 2019: fermer les notes

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Bonjou tout moun,
 Mesyeu / Dam Okap yo, Mesye / Dam senmak yo
men boul nou jw.
Malerezman mwen paka avek nou nan challenge sa paske mwen dwe fini ak yon
lot priyorite.

Mwen ankouraje nou. Franchman nou pap pedi sa. Viv AYITI! Ann kontinye fe
konbit!


On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 2:34 PM fleur  wrote:

>
>
> Bonjour,
> Je propose un premier challenge pour l'année 2019.
> Il y a actuellement environ 1300 notes ouvertes sur Haïti. Je vous
> propose de m'aider à en fermer le plus que possible.
>
> Bonjou tout moun,
> Nap jwenn preske 1300 notes ki ouvri an Ayiti. Ede m femen yo.
>
> Xapitoun
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Re: [Talk-it] Samuel

[Samuel Liuzzo]

Ok grazie mille 

Inviato da iPhone

> Il giorno 22 set 2018, alle ore 13:42, Sergio Manzi  ha scritto:
> 
> Ciao Samuel,
> 
> come probabilmente saprai OpenStreetMap (OSM per gli amici...) è un progetto 
> collaborativo, un database geografico (GIS) alimentato principalmente dal 
> lavoro di volontari che giornalmente si impegnano per arricchirlo di 
> "oggetti": è possibile che quello che cerchi non sia ancora stato mappato qui.
> 
> Esistono dei "derivati" specializzati per settori di   attività, come per 
> esempio Waymarked Trails (per i sentieri da percorrere a piedi) o 
> OpenCycleMap (https://www.opencyclemap.org/) per chi si muove in bicicletta 
> (e dove neppure è visibile il percorso che segnali e che è tracciato nel sito 
> che hai citato).
> 
> Tra l'altro il "tuo" sito prevede nella mappa anche un layer di OpenCycleMap, 
> ma apparentemente hanno un incasinato po' le cose, perché evidentemente gli 
> manca la chiave di accesso per poter visualizzare quel layer.
> 
> Quindi, qui, "in questo universo", allo stato attuale, mi sembra che non ci 
> sia quel che cerchi, ma... quando farai il tuo giro, se ti va, potresti 
> portarti dietro un GPS (o uno smartphone con adeguata applicazione) e 
> raccogliere tu la traccia del percorso e poi contribuire a questo progetto 
> aggiungendola.
> 
> In alternativa qualcuno potrebbe contattare i gestori di the.mtb.biker e 
> verificare la loro disponibilità a contribuire a OpenStreetMap fornendo i 
> dati di quel percorso che loro hanno tracciato e "rilasciandolo" secondo i 
> termini della licenza di OSM (vedi 
> https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap#Licenza).
> 
> Buona giornata e buona pedalata (quando sarà...)
> 
> Sergio
> 
>> On 2018-09-22 13:14, Samuel Liuzzo wrote:
>> Le mando la mappa http://www.themtbbiker.com/tour-du-mont-blanc.html# 
>> 
>> 
>> Inviato da iPhone
>> 
>> Il giorno 22 set 2018, alle ore 12:24, liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu 
>>  ha scritto:
>> 
>>> Il 22/09/2018 11:51, Samuel Liuzzo ha scritto:
>>>>  No,avrei bisogno un po’ di informazioni sui sentieri sul giro monte 
>>>> bianco ,potete aiutarmi?
>>> 
>>> Prova vedi qui:
>>> 
>>> https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=13!45.8712!6.8701
>>> 
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Re: [Talk-it] Samuel

[Samuel Liuzzo]

Le mando la mappa http://www.themtbbiker.com/tour-du-mont-blanc.html# 


Inviato da iPhone

> Il giorno 22 set 2018, alle ore 12:24, liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu 
>  ha scritto:
> 
> Il 22/09/2018 11:51, Samuel Liuzzo ha scritto:
>>  No,avrei bisogno un po’ di informazioni sui sentieri sul giro monte bianco 
>> ,potete aiutarmi?
> 
> Prova vedi qui:
> 
> https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=13!45.8712!6.8701
> 
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Re: [Talk-it] Samuel

[Samuel Liuzzo]

Grazie mille per la disponibilità.
Vorrei chiederti,il fucsia indica i sentieri vero?
perché se così fosse non coprirebbe ciò che percorrerò in mtb.
La mia tappa di partenza sarà da La Palud (10 km a nord da Courmayeur) fino ad 
arrivare a Beaufort (Lago di Roseland) la seconda tappa da Beaufort a 
Chamonix,la terza tappa da Chamonix a Orsieres (qui siamo in Svizzera) per 
concludere la terza tappa da Orsieres a La Palud.
Guardando ciò che mi hai mandato non copre tutto...

Inviato da iPhone

> Il giorno 22 set 2018, alle ore 12:24, liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu 
>  ha scritto:
> 
> Il 22/09/2018 11:51, Samuel Liuzzo ha scritto:
>>  No,avrei bisogno un po’ di informazioni sui sentieri sul giro monte bianco 
>> ,potete aiutarmi?
> 
> Prova vedi qui:
> 
> https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=13!45.8712!6.8701
> 
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[Talk-it] Samuel

[Samuel Liuzzo]

Ciao,a tutti a breve dovrei fare il giro del monte bianco.
Sto cercando di scaricare tutti i sentieri che lo riguardano ,potete darmi una 
mano?
Grazie a tutti ☺️

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Re: [Talk-it] Samuel

[Samuel Liuzzo]

 No,avrei bisogno un po’ di informazioni sui sentieri sul giro monte bianco 
,potete aiutarmi?

Inviato da iPhone

> Il giorno 22 set 2018, alle ore 11:40, liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu 
>  ha scritto:
> 
> Il 22/09/2018 11:37, Samuel Liuzzo ha scritto:
>> <>
> 
> Dobbiamo intendere che sei uno spammatore?
> 
> 
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[Talk-it] Samuel

[Samuel Liuzzo]

samuel.liu...@yahoo.it

Inviato da iPhone

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[Talk-it] Samuel

[Samuel Liuzzo]

Ciao a tutti! Tracce di sentieri del giro del Monte Bianco ce n’è sono ?

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[Talk-it] Samuel

[Samuel Liuzzo]

Salve,vorrei essere iscritto a questa pagina!

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Re: [Talk-se] Looking for active local Sweden mappers to support fire fighting efforts

[Samuel Lidén Borell]

On 2018-07-23 12:51, Blake Girardot wrote:

HOT received a request to improve the mapping around wild fires to
support fire fighters in Sweden.

Is there a local, active person, who would like to take responsibility
to organize remote mapping projects to support that request?

Or maybe folks who would contribute if I set up some project for local
mappers only to work on?


I'm a Swede and I've done quite some mapping here (concentrated to the 
Stockholm area though), but I don't have any experience of HOT projects.


I can help out with mapping but I have a full time job, so it has to be 
on evenings and remotely (or not too far away at least).


How would it work out? Tracing affected areas through satellite imagery 
or similar?



Best Regards,
Samuel


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Re: [Talk-de] Grenzen und Wege

[Samuel Kutter]

Es gibt aber Grenzen, die über den Wasserlauf definiert sind (siehe
Beispiel, oder auch Rheingrenze CH-D oder auch viele andere Grenzen der
Welt)

Hier einige Diskussionen im Hilfe-Forum.
https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/7563/waterway-as-administrative-boundary-shared-way
Ich hatte das zusammengefasst als:
    * Eine geometrische Linie eintragen
    * Als waterway taggen
    * Als Grenze taggen

Also keine zwei geometrische Objekte (ways) (weder separat noch mit
gemeinsamen Nodes), sondern nur ein geometrisches Objekt - sofern die
Grenze über den Fluss definiert ist (was wohl meist der Fall ist).

Samuel



Am 05.01.2018 um 16:46 schrieb Toni Erdmann:
> Gute Beispiel!
>
> Wasserläufe ändern sich, die Grenzen in der Regel nicht.
>
> Toni
>
> Am 05.01.2018 um 16:34 schrieb Christoph Hormann:
>> On Friday 05 January 2018, Martin Scholtes wrote:
>>>
>>> soeben ist mir beim kartieren von Grenzen eine alte Fragestellung
>>> aufgekommen. Wasserwege (Bach/Fluss) markieren oft Grenzen, bzw sind
>>> deckungsgleich mit Grenzen. Sollte ich dann eine Grenzen über den Way
>>> zeichnen oder den Weg mit den bekannten tags füllen und den
>>> jeweiligen Abschnitt dann in die Relation aufnehmen?
>>
>> Das hängt letztendlich davon ab, ob der Wasserlauf die Grenze bildet
>> oder ob die Grenze nur in etwa entlang des Wasserlaufes verläuft.
>>
>> Meiner Erfahrung nach sind mindestens 2/3 der Grenzen in OSM aus
>> vereinfachten oder ungefähr gezeichneten Datensätzen importiert und
>> repräsentieren nicht eine eventuell vorhandene Abmarkung der Grenze so
>> dass die Abweichung zwischen Fluss-Verlauf und Grenz-Verlauf in den
>> Daten vollständig aus Rauschen besteht.  Oft wird aber dennoch der
>> separate Grenz-Verlauf erhalten, denn der stammt ja oft aus einer mehr
>> oder weniger 'offiziellen' Quelle und gilt deshalb als 'korrekt' -
>> selbst wenn das in Wirklichkeit einfach vor zehn Jahren oder so mal von
>> irgendeiner Papierkarte abgezeichnet worden ist.
>>
>> Mein Lieblings-Beispiel ist immer:
>>
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/32.0846/35.5327
>>
>> Für die Mapping-Praxis würd ich sagen: Wenn da Grenzsteine sind und der
>> Grenzverlauf in OSM entspricht diesen weitgehend dann kann und sollte
>> man das separat mappen.  Ansonsten kann man das getrost mit einer
>> Geometrie erfassen.
>>
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Re: [Talk-ht] IRMA ak JOSE

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Merci Fred!
   Mezanmi youn voye je sou lot...youn lonje men bay lot... ANN
FÈ KONBIT!

On Sep 6, 2017 3:34 AM, "Fred Moine"  wrote:

> Siklònn #IRMA: Gwo Menas sou #Haiti Jedi-Vandredi
>
>
>
> Dapre enfomasyon ki disponib jodia Dimanch 3 Septanm, sa montre ke siklònn
> IRMA ap pase sou peyi Dayiti Jedi-Vandredi kap vini la. IRMA se yon siklònn
> kapral nan kategori 4. Yo menm prevwa ke li kamonte nan kategori 5.
> Kategori 4 vle di ke li tanjou siklònn Matye ki te kraze pou 3 milya dola
> ameriken ane pase e touye plis pase mil ayisien . Kategori 5 se kareman
> lanfè tèlman li pralfè dega.
>
>
>
> Gade piba wap wè foto ki montre kijan siklònn IRMA pral pase sou peyi
> dayiti. Genyen pou le moman 6 depatman ki menase: Lwès, Plato Santral,
> Artibonite, Nòdès, Nò ak Nòdwès. Moun ki viv nan depatman sa yo dwe komanse
> pran dispozisyon pou sove sakap sove e pwoteje tèt yo. Men kèk ti konsèy ki
> soti nan tèt mwen ke mwen ka barou kom sitwayen jodia:
>
>
>
> 1. Ranmasse tout papye empotan ke ou genyen, kat didantite, ak de nesans ou
> batistè, ak de maryaj, papye tè, paspò, kat elektoral elatrye. Mete tout
> nan yon chache plastik e al mete yo yon kote ou konnen ke menmsi dlo desann
> ou monte wo li pap ka rive jwen yo.
>
>
>
> 2. Si ou gen jaden ak bèt: Si ou genyen cheval, bourik, milèt, kochon,
> kabrit, bèf, poul elatrye, mete yo kote ke dlo pa kapab pote yo ale. Si ou
> genyen jaden e sa'w te plante a pare pito ou kouri rekòlte l e mete rekòlt
> la kote dlo pa kapab pran l. Si ou rekolte deja garanti ke nan depo ke'w
> mete rekolt sa dlo pa kapab pote li ale.
>
>
>
> 3. Si ou genyen galon, garanti ke pa pita ke Mèkredi swa ou Jedi Maten yo
> tout plen dlo pou kapab genyen dlo pou bwè lè dlo yo finn desann. Si wal
> bwè dlo sal apre siklònn ou ka pran maladi
>
>
>
> 4. Achte alavans ti grenn ke ou mete nan dlo pou touye bakteri kolera a.
>
>
>
> 5. Si ou rete bò ravinn, bò riviyè kote dlo kapab pote'w ale pran
> dispozisyon ak tout fanmi'w pou kapab deplase.
>
>
>
> Pa bliye ampil lapli ap tonbe apre siklonn nan pase. Chak jou na esaye pote
> lòt ti konsèy konsa. Enfomasyon sou wout siklonn nan kapab chanje. Si safèt
> nanp kontinye poste enfomasyon sou sa pou ou kapab okouran de chanjman sa
> yo. Nou sèten ke Minis konsène yo ak direksyond epatmantal yo ap pran tout
> dispozisyon anvan, apre e pandan siklònn nan pou pwoteje sitwayen yo nan
> depatman konsène yo. Sa vle di pozisyone materyèl lou ak mwayen lojistik
> pou reponn a ijans ke siklonn sa pral kreye!
>
>
> Sa nou te aprann apre matthew se ke li enpòtan pou fè konbit ak asosyasyon
> lokal yo, popilasyon an. ONG yo pa enplike popilasyon an. Sou Jéremie nou
> te gen chans pou yo gen doktè Kiben yo ki te kite bonè nan zòn mòn yo.
> Kouraj zanmi m yo panse de frè ayisyen yo
>
>
>
> https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/ort
> hographic=-72.12,20.47,558/
>  orthographic=-72.12,20.47,558/loc=-70.667,19.455>
> loc=-70.667,19.455
>  orthographic=-72.12,20.47,558/loc=-70.667,19.455>
>
> http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at1.shtml?cone#contents
>
> http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at2.shtml?cone#contents
>
>
> FredM
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Re: [Talk-ht] Retounen nan Ayiti

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

welcome Severin,
   Mwen kontan li mesaj s malgre mwen te deja
okouran de prezans ou sou Ayiti...
Mwen espere ke tout kontribite OSM pral mete tet ansanm pou pwofite de
fomasyon Severin pote pou nou ki pral grandi nou teknikman nan OSM ak lot
aktivite ki konekte ak katografi epi kolek done rapid epi pi fasil

yon lot fwa anko mwen vle motive tout jen Ayisyen pou mete tet ansanm...


ANN KONTINYE FE KONBIT!

2016-10-24 12:10 GMT-04:00 Severin Menard <severin.men...@gmail.com>:

> Bonjou tout moun,
>
> Mesaj sa a pou anonse nou mwen antre nan Ayiti pou twa semèn kòm volontè
> OSM. Mwen vle vizite tout kominotè OSM Ayiti ki vle patisipe nan katografi
> a distans ak teren tou pou repons siklòn Mathieu. Map fè fomasyon sou
> katografi kriz ak nouvèl teknik yo (foto, smartphone, ODK, etc.) ak
> aktivite pou kominotè Ayiti yo pa blye nan katografi kris sa a.
>
> Wè nou talè !
>
> Severin
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[Talk-ht] Mapathon nan okap

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Bonjou tout moun,

Nou aktyelman reyini nan vil Okap, tou pre Hotel Mont
Jolie  <http://osm.org/go/YfCJ0wZ_E?m=> pou nou ede nan fason pa nou tout
zon ouragan Matthew te frape pandan li tap pase a.

Nou ankouraje lot mapper yo pou fe menm jan tou paske "yon sel dwet pa
manje kalalou"

"ANSANM NOU PI FO"


Nou tou pwofite fe fomasyon nan OSM pou Tony Marcelli ke nap swete yon byen
vini sou system nan...




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Re: [Talk-ht] Cartographie des zones autour des abris d'urgence connus

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Hello Sev,

   Sorry for Yesterday. I was out of internet connection. We
will try our best but as you know that i am busy in the north doing other
things. but i am in touch with Jean Junior Cadet and Alouidor Lesly Louis
we gonna see what we can do over here.

thanks once again to get Haiti in your mind. we really appreciate that.

Le 5 octobre 2016 à 12:59, Severin Menard <severin.men...@gmail.com> a
écrit :

> Bonjour à tous,
>
> Nous sommes de tout cœur avec vous en ces jours difficiles où un cyclone à
> frapper de nouveau votre pays.
> Nicolas et moi sommes actuellement en Côte d'Ivoire pour une action de
> formation de cartographes et géomatique libre avec une équipe de formateurs
> et facilitateurs de l'Afrique de l'Ouest et du Centre, chevronnés sur OSM,
> et nous souhaitons vous aider avec nos moyens de cartographes et modifier
> en conséquent notre programme de formation et nos priorités de mapping.
>
> En complément des tâches en cours de la communauté HOT, nous souhaitons
> renforcer la cartographie dans la partie la plus exposée autour des lieux
> centraux en temps de crise en Haïti : les abris temporaires d'urgence qui
> sont le premier refuge des populations dont les habitations risquent de ne
> pouvoir supporter les vents très violents des cyclones.
>
> Ces abris d'urgence, nous les connaissons bien : dans le cadre d'un projet
> de l'IOM en 2011, Nicolas et moi avons beaucoup travaillé sur les listes de
> la Direction de la Protection Civile - DPC pour organiser leur collecte et
> certains d'entre vous sont allés cartographier sur le terrain à la sueur de
> leur front, afin qu'il apparaissent enfin sur une carte.
>
> C'est de ce travail et cette donnée construits ensemble, que nous voulons
> aujourd'hui valoriser, en cartographiant à distance les abords de ces abris
> pour que tout le contexte qu'il desserve apparaisse sur la carte. En effet,
> dans beaucoup de lieux, les abris d'urgence sont cartographiés comme des
> points, mais les bâtiments, voire les chemins ou rues autour ne sont pas
> encore sur la carte. C'est ce travail que nous commençons tout juste et que
> nous vous invitons à rejoindre si votre situation le permet après le
> passage de Matthew.
>
> http://taches.francophonelibre.org/project/35
>
> Pierre, que beaucoup d'entre vous connaissent bien après ses passages dans
> le Nord et à Port-au-Prince, et qui a accompagné beaucoup de réponses de
> crises OSM, apporte également son support depuis le Québec. Frédéric quant
> à lui se trouve à Port-au-Prince et est déjà en appui à la communauté de
> Cité Soleil.
>
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Re: [Talk-se] Statistik över vägnamn i OSM och Postnummerkatalogen 1996

[Samuel Lidén Borell]

On 2016-08-06 19:22, Karl Wettin wrote:

Coolt!

Du vill inte ha ett shell-konto på openstreetmap.se och ha det publicerat där 
på samma sätt jag publicerat pnr96? Att inte slarva bort vettiga funktioner för 
att de drivs på andra servers som försvinner är en av anledningarna till att 
vår existerar :-D Hör av dig krypterat eller via telefon så fixar vi det med 
lösenord och sådant på momangen.


Jo det låter som en bra idé. Jag mailar dig.



Angående att samköra mot postnummeruppror för att koppla ihop listan mot kommun 
så har jag lite att säga om den punktern:

Lättast är kanske att köra mot ref:se:pts:postort i OSM. Notera dock att det nu 
finns ca 1700 postorter, dvs 1000 fler än 1996. Många av de från 1996 har 
slagits samman, brutits upp, etc. Troligen kan du matcha 2/3 av dem med 
automatik.


Mm det skulle spara lite tid. Har 595 postorter som jag inte har 
matchat. Om det bara blir ett par hundra kvar så går det ju att köra 
manuellt och kolla efter orter med liknande namn på Wikipedia (där 
brukar det stå kommun) och sen ta den plats som verkar mest rimlig med 
tanke på postnumret. Så har jag gjort hittills när jag inte vetat.




<https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/ref:se:pts:postort#values>

Har du problem att få ut polygoner för kommunerna ur OSM (det finns ett par små komplexa grejer 
där med enklaver i exklaver sist jag kollade) så finns det CC0-versioner som GeoJSON här: 
<http://kodapan.se/geodata/data/2015-06-26/kommuner.geo.json> som kanske är lättare. 
(Extraherat från <http://kodapan.se/geodata/> och senare <http://gis.kodapan.se>.)



Hittills så har jag som sagt bara kört Overpass och allt har sett ut att 
fungera, men det är inte alls omöjligt att den inte hanterar inner/outer 
relationer. Har inte testat alls.




Är det jobbigt att kolla av dem mot kommunpolygoner så notera gärna att mer än 
hälften av portortstaggade objekt i OSM även har ref:se:scb för tätort som 
enkelt kan slås upp mot kommun.

Hör av dig om det är några frågor så hjälper jag till så gott jag kan!


Tack för tipsen!

Mvh,
Samuel






kalle



On 06 Aug 2016, at 18:19, Samuel Lidén Borell <sam...@kodafritt.se> wrote:

Hej,

Jag har lekt lite med Overpass API:et och samkört vägnamn i OSM mot Karl 
Wettins JSON-databas med vägnamn/postorter från postnummerkatalogen.

Helt perfekt blev det inte, men man kan få sig en översikt av var det behöver 
karteras, och vilka vägnamn som eventuellt saknas eller är felstavade.

Har satt upp ett cron-jobb som kör igenom datan en gång per vecka, än så länge 
dock bara för stockholmskommunerna plus några till kommuner.

Här hittar ni resultatet, samt info och källkod:

https://osm.kodafritt.se/pnr96addrstats/kommuner.html


Och att det står att så mkt saknas beror till stor del på att det finns en del 
annat än bara vägnamn i postnummerkatalogen. När jag hämtar datan från OSM så 
tar jag bara med vägar (highways), så det ser lite sämre ut än vad det faktiskt 
är.


Mvh,
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[Talk-se] Statistik över vägnamn i OSM och Postnummerkatalogen 1996

[Samuel Lidén Borell]

Hej,

Jag har lekt lite med Overpass API:et och samkört vägnamn i OSM mot Karl 
Wettins JSON-databas med vägnamn/postorter från postnummerkatalogen.


Helt perfekt blev det inte, men man kan få sig en översikt av var det 
behöver karteras, och vilka vägnamn som eventuellt saknas eller är 
felstavade.


Har satt upp ett cron-jobb som kör igenom datan en gång per vecka, än så 
länge dock bara för stockholmskommunerna plus några till kommuner.


Här hittar ni resultatet, samt info och källkod:

https://osm.kodafritt.se/pnr96addrstats/kommuner.html


Och att det står att så mkt saknas beror till stor del på att det finns 
en del annat än bara vägnamn i postnummerkatalogen. När jag hämtar datan 
från OSM så tar jag bara med vägar (highways), så det ser lite sämre ut 
än vad det faktiskt är.



Mvh,
Samuel

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[Talk-ht] Mwen pataje link sa ak nou

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

OSMHaiti
Let's map together for a better Haiti and a better world
https://telegram.me/osmhaiti

ALCE Samuel Paul,

Port-au-Prince, Haiti

Field Data Coordinator @ DAI / USAID
Géo-Information Specialist (GIS)
Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team member
OpenStreetMap contributor in Haiti

OSM username: ALCE Samuel Paul

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Re: [Talk-ht] COSMHA.STM en deuil

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Man, I heard about the death! I am really sorry about it... Weldo was one
of the best one... keep us posted so we will be here with him @the latest
moment... courage, Condoleances to all the COSMHA .STM members

Weldo one of our best mapper...

ALCE Samuel Paul,

Port-au-Prince, Haiti

Field Data Coordinator @ DAI / USAID
Géo-Information Specialist (GIS)
Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team member
OpenStreetMap contributor in Haiti

OSM username: ALCE Samuel Paul

Cell: (509) 4894-2175 / 4638-4875 / 4289-7651


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On Jul 30, 2016 22:19, "Schneider kennedy Alcereste" <
kennedyzoepa...@gmail.com> wrote:

Coup dur pour nous COSMHA.STM, en ce vendredi 29 juillet 2016, nous venons
de perdre un être cher, un confrère, un membre hors du commun. *Weldo*
Giovani LAURENT, qui aurait pu imaginer ton décès si tôt, (26 ans).
La communauté fera de tes œuvres l'objet de leur source d'inspiration. Un
grand ne meurt jamais, tu vivras toujours dans notre cœur et resteras digne
dans notre mémoire.
Que ton âme repose en paix!

Schneider Kennedy ALCERESTE

Coordonnateur MENPAM |
Cartographe | Formateur Contributeur actif OpenStreetMap | Travailleur
Social |  Psychothérapeute
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[Talk-ht] OSM is 3D capable

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Hello all,

   Pandan nou nan GWO DISKISYON ann gade koman mond lan ap
evolye kite nou jisss deye net. :(  Sa fem mal...
ANTOUKA ann enjoy link sa ansanm, ann gade koman OSM ap grandi ak travay
tout kontribyab yo...

NB: Nou tout ki la kontribye a jefo sila... nou chak se youn nan moun ki fe
travay sa reyalize... Ann gade devan, ann kontinye fe konbit, yon jou na va
chanje figi lakay

Klike sou link sa pou nou ka we mevey ki genyen nan OSM: Mwen selman montre
inivesite a men nou ka drague pou nou ka we lot kote anko...

Mwen gen yon gwo pwoje poum mete couleur nan tout building yo... tout moun
ki vle nou ka komanse vin kole main avem lem vini paske map bay fomasyon
sou sa.


https://demo.f4map.com/#lat=19.6554279=-72.0699937=19=157.689

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[Talk-ht] Fwd: Re:

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

FYI

ALCE Samuel Paul,

Port-au-Prince, Haiti

Field Data Coordinator @ DAI / USAID
Géo-Information Specialist (GIS)
Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team member
OpenStreetMap contributor in Haiti

OSM username: ALCE Samuel Paul

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-- Forwarded message --
From: "Jean Bully PROPHETE" <jeanbu...@gmail.com>
Date: Jul 22, 2016 13:16
Subject: Re:
To: "Adler Salvador" <adousasu8...@gmail.com>
Cc: "ALCE, Samuel Paul" <alcesamuelp...@gmail.com>, "Schneider kennedy
Alcereste" <kennedyzoepa...@gmail.com>, "Wendy Delva" <didygro...@gmail.com>,
"Louino Robillard" <robillard.lou...@gmail.com>, "Alouidor Lesly Louis" <
leslyloui...@gmail.com>, "similia joseph (Google+)" <
reply-116397632905621852...@profiles.google.com>, "Junior Jean Cadet
(Google+)" <reply-113100438883366813...@profiles.google.com>, "JEAN jean
baptiste (Google+)" <reply-106749539721613893...@profiles.google.com>,
"Dagno louis" <djdagn...@gmail.com>

Bonjou Salvador;
   Mwen kontan entevansyon w an e mwen  vle diw ke mwen
renmen saw di a e sitou sam pi renmen an se le
 w di:" paske c yo ki pi maltrete nan tout kote nou pase nan Peyi a depi lè
nap fome jèn." Wi se vre Sal, e mwen vle di tou se rezon sa ki fe nou te
vle reyini manb COSMHANNE yo san rann kont de KOMITE a (paske nou pat vle
li sanble ak yon mouvman refomis men pito rasanbleman).

Nou tap cheche mwayen pou nou pa antre nan koze enten gwoup la pandan nap
rankontre ak yo menm jan mesye frankofon yo te fe pou COSMHA lane denye
kote anpil nan nou te patisipe pami yo manb COSMHANNE (Wendy). Men moman sa
yo t diskite remanbreman COSMHA, men eske Wendy c manm COSMHA Si non
eske se paske mwen se ti neg nwa tet grenn ki fe ou panse mwen pa ka ede w
ak tout kem?

Poukisa se sel Wendy ki we ide a tankou yon ide menasan pou entere entenn
COSMHANNE pandan plizye lot mwen kwaze Okap  we li pozitivman, petet li pat
konprann sam te vle fe, men Wendy se patnem, se youn nan de meye katograf
mwen fome (Alouidor-Wendy), mwen panse sil pat konprann li tap pi saj pou
ekri mwen ou rele mwen mande mwen sak pase.BREF

Mwen pat gen ide, mwen pa gen ide manm COSMHANNE, men mwen gen ide  EDE nou
tout jan mwen kapab ak tout ke mwen sa mwen pa janm antre yon segond nan
koze entenn nou SVP.

Mwen santi diskisyon sa tap pi bel sou talk-ht kom c pa la li fet mwen mete
kek moun COSMHANNE petet mwen panse ki ka enpotan pou diskisyon sa.

Merci...



2016-07-22 1:53 GMT-04:00 Adler Salvador <adousasu8...@gmail.com>:

> Mw Salye nou tout!
>
> Map felisite Samuel pou tout efò w toujou  fè pou kenbe OSM-Haiti anvi.
> Mw kontan paskew pral reprezante m nan State of the map la.
>
> Mw tap swiv mesaj yo menm te vle pran tan avanm reaji.
> Se vre Samuel Bully Derchy e lot toujou nou patisipe nan fòme anpil jèn
> nan plizye depatman espesyalman Nò ak Nòdès.
>
> Chak kote sa yo nou te gen objektif poun fè yo endepan pou yo jere tout
> afè yo antre yo. Si yo bezwen èd nou pa gen problem nap toujou disponib pou
> yo. Men nan ka COSMHANNES si nou vle ede yo se ak de menm map aplodi èd yo.
> Men fok nou evite antre nan bagay entèn yo paske c yo ki pi maltrete nan
> tout kote nou pase nan Peyi a depi lè nap fome jèn.
>
> Mw janm te toujou di yo map toujou la poum ede yo paske nan moman la se
> sel Ayiti ki fèmen nan nivo OSM paske nou toujou ap tann projè pou nou
> travay. Epi moun ki gen posiblite yo toujou bezwen itilize moun pou yo Fè
> non.
>
> Mw kwè nan konbit c nan konbit mw kwè nap jwenn fòs pou n soti tout mapper
> nou pedi yo tankou nan Leogan,nan Jacmel, nan Okay,nan Jeremie.
>
> Mwen salye nou tout
> `` kwè nan konbit se kwè nan avni chak frè ak sè nou.``
>
> Adler Salvador
>
> *LIVE OSM Team*
> (+509) 3832-0016
>



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Re: [Talk-ht] Fwd: Recrutement d'enqueteurs et autre qualificatifs

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Moun nan rele Jean Jean Baptiste... Mwen FORWARD email la... mwen pa voyel
pou nou men mwen FROWARD li...

Mezami ann fe technology ann konprann sak sot ekri a...

2016-07-19 11:54 GMT-04:00 similia joseph <similiajos...@gmail.com>:

> Poukisa moun nan bliye fe Répondre à tous, poukisa se oul ekriw an
> prive?ki moun li ye? Anpil refleksyon..
> Le 19 juil. 2016 14:21, "ALCE, Samuel Paul" <alcesamuelp...@gmail.com> a
> écrit :
>
>> Mwen vle transfere email yon moun ki te bliye fe "repondre a tous"
>>
>> Tanpri, pa ekrim personelman paske mwen pa anyen nan diskisyon kap fet
>> l. mwen pa vle enplikem nan dosye COSMHANNE
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: JEAN jean baptiste <patolov...@gmail.com>
>> Date: 2016-07-19 10:17 GMT-04:00
>> Subject: Re: [Talk-ht] Recrutement d'enqueteurs et autre qualificatifs
>> To: "ALCE, Samuel Paul" <alcesamuelp...@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> COSMHANNE gen problem leader e yo we pwop tet yo.yon kesyon: sa ki koz
>> leader yo pa ka reyini manb COSMHANNE yo? si se pa pwoblem leader di m ki
>> pwoblem.
>>
>> 2016-07-18 12:46 GMT-05:00 ALCE, Samuel Paul <alcesamuelp...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Similia, baz pam! sakapfet?
>>> Mesi pou fason ou enteveni an
>>> (anpil sajes) mwen salye sajess la... men mwen pa we kote mwen fe okenn
>>> deklarasyon ki mal...
>>>
>>> MEN SA PA ANPECHE KE MWEN EXKIZEM DEVAN TOUT MOUN KI TA PRAN YON PAWOL KE
>>> MWEN DI NAN MOVE FASON
>>>
>>> Mwen pa ekri poum fwase moun men mwen ekri poum enplikem nan KOBIT ke nou
>>> dwe fe a..
>>>
>>> encore une fois, SORRY si e selman si mwen ta di yon koze ki deranjan
>>> MWEN PA GEN LIDE KRAZE MEN TOUT LIDEM SE POUM EDE NOU KONSTWI...
>>>
>>> MWEN PAP SISPANN EXKIZEM YON LOT FWA ANKO
>>>
>>> ANN KONTINYE FE KONBIT
>>>
>>> 2016-07-18 13:26 GMT-04:00 similia joseph <similiajos...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> > Bonswa tout moun
>>> >
>>> > apre anpil tan ke m pwan pou m te  swiv analiz ki ap fet a propo de
>>> > COSMHANNE yo mwen deside fe yon entevansyon
>>> >
>>> > .- Tou dabo  mwen vle remesye Bully ki se yonn nan moun ki te fome Manb
>>> > COSMHANNE nan zafe Katografi, mesi paske ou panse a nou.
>>> >
>>> >  ._ Answit  mwen vle remesye Louino pou tout  konsey pozitif li yo , ak
>>> > fason li we nou antan ke oganizasyon .
>>> >
>>> >   .-  Finalman  mwen di mesi a Samuel pou fason li montre li enterese a
>>> > COSMHANNE
>>> >
>>> >  Mwen antyeman deplore denye deklarasyon ou fe a Samuel, se  fo, fo,
>>> fo e
>>> > fo anko ke  manb COSMHANNE we sel* "PWOP TET YO"*.Ou pwouve koman ou pa
>>>
>>> > gen respe pou COSMHANNE lew di al klike sou lyen sa, daye se sa nap
>>> cheche,
>>> > deklarasyon sa se a refomule  Sanuel ALCE. COSMHANNE selman gen problem
>>> > materyel poun travay, men nou pa suspann panse ansanm kisa nou ka fe.
>>> Ou
>>> > gen akse a materyel nan univesite a, m panse si w te vle ou tap ede nou
>>> > deja,ou tap ede n jwenn materyel prete, nou pa gen pwoblem leader, men
>>> sa
>>> > pa anpeche  nou resevwa yon leader ki vle kolabore reyelman, san se pa
>>> pou
>>> > yo di se li ki kapab fe .
>>> >   Mesi.
>>> >   Similia JOSEPH
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 2016-07-16 4:48 GMT-07:00 Louino Robillard <robillard.lou...@gmail.com
>>> >:
>>> >
>>> >> Mwen dako,
>>> >> E mwen salye devouman nou.
>>> >>
>>> >> Men li tre enpotan pou nou pa fe pou yo, men fe ak yo.
>>> >>
>>> >> Yo se yon gwoup, si yo genyen regleman enten yo fok moun ki ap vini
>>> ede yo
>>> >> respekte regleman yo.
>>> >>
>>> >> Kek fwa ou konn pase ou ap ede epi se fos ou wap pedi fok moun ou
>>> gwoup
>>> >> wap
>>> >> ede konsyans li bezwen ed pouw ede li.
>>> >>
>>> >> Mwen toujou la pou mwen preche konbit, pou mwen preche tet ansanm, men
>>> >> ansanm travay ansanm. Men mwen konnen tou tout sa yo paka fe fet nan
>>> deze.
>>> >>
>>> >> Mwen di tout sa pou mwen fe nou konnen,
>>> >> Se nan konpreyasyon, chita pale, chita tande , youn

[Talk-ht] Fwd: Recrutement d'enqueteurs et autre qualificatifs

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Mwen vle transfere email yon moun ki te bliye fe "repondre a tous"

Tanpri, pa ekrim personelman paske mwen pa anyen nan diskisyon kap fet
l. mwen pa vle enplikem nan dosye COSMHANNE

-- Forwarded message --
From: JEAN jean baptiste <patolov...@gmail.com>
Date: 2016-07-19 10:17 GMT-04:00
Subject: Re: [Talk-ht] Recrutement d'enqueteurs et autre qualificatifs
To: "ALCE, Samuel Paul" <alcesamuelp...@gmail.com>


COSMHANNE gen problem leader e yo we pwop tet yo.yon kesyon: sa ki koz
leader yo pa ka reyini manb COSMHANNE yo? si se pa pwoblem leader di m ki
pwoblem.

2016-07-18 12:46 GMT-05:00 ALCE, Samuel Paul <alcesamuelp...@gmail.com>:

> Similia, baz pam! sakapfet?
> Mesi pou fason ou enteveni an
> (anpil sajes) mwen salye sajess la... men mwen pa we kote mwen fe okenn
> deklarasyon ki mal...
>
> MEN SA PA ANPECHE KE MWEN EXKIZEM DEVAN TOUT MOUN KI TA PRAN YON PAWOL KE
> MWEN DI NAN MOVE FASON
>
> Mwen pa ekri poum fwase moun men mwen ekri poum enplikem nan KOBIT ke nou
> dwe fe a..
>
> encore une fois, SORRY si e selman si mwen ta di yon koze ki deranjan
> MWEN PA GEN LIDE KRAZE MEN TOUT LIDEM SE POUM EDE NOU KONSTWI...
>
> MWEN PAP SISPANN EXKIZEM YON LOT FWA ANKO
>
> ANN KONTINYE FE KONBIT
>
> 2016-07-18 13:26 GMT-04:00 similia joseph <similiajos...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Bonswa tout moun
> >
> > apre anpil tan ke m pwan pou m te  swiv analiz ki ap fet a propo de
> > COSMHANNE yo mwen deside fe yon entevansyon
> >
> > .- Tou dabo  mwen vle remesye Bully ki se yonn nan moun ki te fome Manb
> > COSMHANNE nan zafe Katografi, mesi paske ou panse a nou.
> >
> >  ._ Answit  mwen vle remesye Louino pou tout  konsey pozitif li yo , ak
> > fason li we nou antan ke oganizasyon .
> >
> >   .-  Finalman  mwen di mesi a Samuel pou fason li montre li enterese a
> > COSMHANNE
> >
> >  Mwen antyeman deplore denye deklarasyon ou fe a Samuel, se  fo, fo, fo e
> > fo anko ke  manb COSMHANNE we sel* "PWOP TET YO"*.Ou pwouve koman ou pa
>
> > gen respe pou COSMHANNE lew di al klike sou lyen sa, daye se sa nap
> cheche,
> > deklarasyon sa se a refomule  Sanuel ALCE. COSMHANNE selman gen problem
> > materyel poun travay, men nou pa suspann panse ansanm kisa nou ka fe. Ou
> > gen akse a materyel nan univesite a, m panse si w te vle ou tap ede nou
> > deja,ou tap ede n jwenn materyel prete, nou pa gen pwoblem leader, men sa
> > pa anpeche  nou resevwa yon leader ki vle kolabore reyelman, san se pa
> pou
> > yo di se li ki kapab fe .
> >   Mesi.
> >   Similia JOSEPH
> >
> >
> > 2016-07-16 4:48 GMT-07:00 Louino Robillard <robillard.lou...@gmail.com>:
> >
> >> Mwen dako,
> >> E mwen salye devouman nou.
> >>
> >> Men li tre enpotan pou nou pa fe pou yo, men fe ak yo.
> >>
> >> Yo se yon gwoup, si yo genyen regleman enten yo fok moun ki ap vini ede
> yo
> >> respekte regleman yo.
> >>
> >> Kek fwa ou konn pase ou ap ede epi se fos ou wap pedi fok moun ou gwoup
> >> wap
> >> ede konsyans li bezwen ed pouw ede li.
> >>
> >> Mwen toujou la pou mwen preche konbit, pou mwen preche tet ansanm, men
> >> ansanm travay ansanm. Men mwen konnen tou tout sa yo paka fe fet nan
> deze.
> >>
> >> Mwen di tout sa pou mwen fe nou konnen,
> >> Se nan konpreyasyon, chita pale, chita tande , youn ap rive konprann
> lot.
> >>
> >> Mwen se gwo fanatik COSMHANNE depi nan kreyasyon gwoup sa, mwen vle we
> yo
> >> rete aktiv, mwen ap disponib pou kelkeswa konsey wap bezwen.
> >>
> >> Men franchman, mwen pap janm ka plis renmen gwoup la ke jen limonad yo,
> ke
> >> jen nan depatman Nord yo. Paske se pitit yo, se lakay yo.
> >>
> >> Nou ka toujou ankouraje yo, men pa pouse yo twop, pa antre nan mita
> >> enstitisyon yo san yo pa envite nou.
> >>
> >> Fok fwa ou konn vle ede,
> >> Men fomil ke ou anplwaye fe ou fe plis domaj. Konsey pou ou Samuel ak
> >> Billy.
> >>
> >> Mwen kontan we nap chache opotinite poste pou jeunes yo se tre byen,
> mwen
> >> renmen sa.
> >> Se youn ki pou sitni lot. Youn chache pou lot, youn fome lot, youn
> emfome
> >> lot. Youn chache konprann lot, youn tande lot 
> >> Se konsa nap rive atenn objektiv nou kisa viv ansanm, viv byen ansanm.
> >>
> >> Ann kontinye fe konbit,
> >> Robi
> >> On Jul 16, 2016 6:15 AM, "ALCE, Samuel Paul" <alcesamuelp...@gmail.com>
> >> wrot

[Talk-ht] BON JAN NOUVEL POU KOMINATE OSM HAITI

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Mwen salye tout moun,

 Mwen kontan poum anonse nou ke yon lot fwa
anko pitit te DAYITI jwenn okazyon pou al reprezante AYITI valableman...
Mwen jwen yon okazyon poum al reprezante OSM AYITI nan *StateoftheMap US *ki
ap fet nan peyi etazini, nan *SEATTLE UNIVERSITY*. Gras ak konkou biwo a
USAID epi ak OSM US ki te sipote scholarship mwen.

Mwen pwomet poum tounen ak tout sa ki bon yo poum vin pataje ak tout res
kominote AYITI yo menm jan mwen te konn fel deja epi menm jan mwen toujou
ap kontinye fel nan moman prezan sa.

Se yon mouvman mwen vreman ankouraje... te gen yon manb pami nou ki te
jwenn posibilite sa men nan trop lide personel, oubyen nan lide pou moun
pat konnen li pat vle pataje sa ... so nan move jesyon li pedi posibilite

Mwen vle fe tout moun konnen ke mwen disponib et dipoze pou ede nou tout,
pou nou grandi

Email formasyon yo toujou pataje sou mailing list yo, depi nou enterese pa
neglije kontakte yon pi gran (ki pa oblije mwen menm personelman)...



MESI AK TOUT PI GRAN KI TE EDEM GRANDI, JODIA MWEN REKONESAN  EPI MAP
KONTINYE SWIV TRAS NOU.

















2016-07-18 13:26 GMT-04:00 similia joseph <similiajos...@gmail.com>:

> Bonswa tout moun
>
> apre anpil tan ke m pwan pou m te  swiv analiz ki ap fet a propo de
> COSMHANNE yo mwen deside fe yon entevansyon
>
> .- Tou dabo  mwen vle remesye Bully ki se yonn nan moun ki te fome Manb
> COSMHANNE nan zafe Katografi, mesi paske ou panse a nou.
>
>  ._ Answit  mwen vle remesye Louino pou tout  konsey pozitif li yo , ak
> fason li we nou antan ke oganizasyon .
>
>   .-  Finalman  mwen di mesi a Samuel pou fason li montre li enterese a
> COSMHANNE
>
>  Mwen antyeman deplore denye deklarasyon ou fe a Samuel, se  fo, fo, fo e
> fo anko ke  manb COSMHANNE we sel* "PWOP TET YO"*.Ou pwouve koman ou pa
> gen respe pou COSMHANNE lew di al klike sou lyen sa, daye se sa nap cheche,
> deklarasyon sa se a refomule  Sanuel ALCE. COSMHANNE selman gen problem
> materyel poun travay, men nou pa suspann panse ansanm kisa nou ka fe. Ou
> gen akse a materyel nan univesite a, m panse si w te vle ou tap ede nou
> deja,ou tap ede n jwenn materyel prete, nou pa gen pwoblem leader, men sa
> pa anpeche  nou resevwa yon leader ki vle kolabore reyelman, san se pa pou
> yo di se li ki kapab fe .
>   Mesi.
>   Similia JOSEPH
>
>
> 2016-07-16 4:48 GMT-07:00 Louino Robillard <robillard.lou...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Mwen dako,
>> E mwen salye devouman nou.
>>
>> Men li tre enpotan pou nou pa fe pou yo, men fe ak yo.
>>
>> Yo se yon gwoup, si yo genyen regleman enten yo fok moun ki ap vini ede yo
>> respekte regleman yo.
>>
>> Kek fwa ou konn pase ou ap ede epi se fos ou wap pedi fok moun ou gwoup
>> wap
>> ede konsyans li bezwen ed pouw ede li.
>>
>> Mwen toujou la pou mwen preche konbit, pou mwen preche tet ansanm, men
>> ansanm travay ansanm. Men mwen konnen tou tout sa yo paka fe fet nan deze.
>>
>> Mwen di tout sa pou mwen fe nou konnen,
>> Se nan konpreyasyon, chita pale, chita tande , youn ap rive konprann lot.
>>
>> Mwen se gwo fanatik COSMHANNE depi nan kreyasyon gwoup sa, mwen vle we yo
>> rete aktiv, mwen ap disponib pou kelkeswa konsey wap bezwen.
>>
>> Men franchman, mwen pap janm ka plis renmen gwoup la ke jen limonad yo, ke
>> jen nan depatman Nord yo. Paske se pitit yo, se lakay yo.
>>
>> Nou ka toujou ankouraje yo, men pa pouse yo twop, pa antre nan mita
>> enstitisyon yo san yo pa envite nou.
>>
>> Fok fwa ou konn vle ede,
>> Men fomil ke ou anplwaye fe ou fe plis domaj. Konsey pou ou Samuel ak
>> Billy.
>>
>> Mwen kontan we nap chache opotinite poste pou jeunes yo se tre byen, mwen
>> renmen sa.
>> Se youn ki pou sitni lot. Youn chache pou lot, youn fome lot, youn emfome
>> lot. Youn chache konprann lot, youn tande lot 
>> Se konsa nap rive atenn objektiv nou kisa viv ansanm, viv byen ansanm.
>>
>> Ann kontinye fe konbit,
>> Robi
>> On Jul 16, 2016 6:15 AM, "ALCE, Samuel Paul" <alcesamuelp...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Tout otan nap viv, Nap tj eseye rasanble moun, si yo pa vle rasanble nap
>> > toujou aranje nou pou nou fe KONBIT ak yo, pou nou ede yo, menm si se
>> > pandan yo degrennen yon nou 2 ou 3 ap deside regwoupe kanmenm
>> >
>> > Malgre yo gen lide ke nap vyole CHARTE yo, nou pap sispann pataje ak yo,
>> > chache pou yo, pote pou yo, fòme yo pou juskaske nou fe yo konnen kisa
>> ki
>> > KONBIT...
>> >
>> > Nou ka pa reyisi jodia, nou ka pa reyisi demen, men ti kras pa ti kras
>> nou
>> > va rasanble yon jou.. . ak menm lide, ak menm 

Re: [Talk-ht] Recrutement d'enqueteurs et autre qualificatifs

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Lots of respect Jean Bully Prophete... One of the good ones!
Mwen sur ke Bully se youn nan bon yo
NAP BATAY POU KONBIT LA FET>>>> E NAP KONTINYE FE KONBIT NOU PAP LACHE
MENM SI YO PANSE NAP BATAY POU ENTERE PA NOU...
Robi mwen salye sou track sa...

KONBIT PI RED





Le 15 juillet 2016 à 16:18, Jean Bully PROPHETE <jeanbu...@gmail.com> a
écrit :

> Veuillez aller sur ce lien et appliquez pour votre qualificatif:
> offre d'emploi <http://ayitinexus.com/opportunities-2/>
> A tous les membres de COSMHANNE c'est un des points que je voulais vous
> parler alors tentez votre chance, ceci pourrait etre beaucoup plus formel
> cependant je ne voulais pas continuer a violer votre charte.
>
> Merci
>
> --
> * Jean Bully Prophete*
> GIS Field Agent at DAI/AVANSE Haiti
> Humanitarian OpenstreetMap Team member / OSM Advanced Mapper-Trainer
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Jean%20Bully>
> Skype:jeanbully
> Linkedin: Jean Bully
> <
> https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=AAIAAAsyuO8B57pdiqGkMfBwnWlmW99xXTaOhVU=nav_responsive_tab_profile_pic
> >
> Phone/Whatsapp:+1(509)3732-2379
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-- 
*ALCE Samuel Paul, *

*Port-au-Prince, Haiti *

*Field Data Coordinator @ DAI / USAID*
*Géo-Information Specialist (GIS)*

*Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team memberOpenStreetMap** contributor in
Haiti *

*OSM username: ALCE Samuel Paul *

*Cell**: (509) 4894-2175 / 4638-4875 / 4289-7651

 *
*Skype**: samuelalce*
*Whatsapp*: *(509) **4289-7651*
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Re: [Talk-de] Massive OSM-Lizenz-Verletzung durch Kartenanbieter outdooractive.com (u. a. auch Alpenverein betroffen)

[Samuel Kutter]

Für die Bücher: Der Fall "outdooractive" (Thema von letztem Jahr,
Copyright-Hinweis war ungenügend) kann als gelöst betrachtet werden, da
sich schließlich der Direktor Kartografie gemeldet hat und entsprechende
Änderungen implementiert wurden, die (mit Augenmaß beurteilt) als
zufriedenstellend gelten können.

Viele Grüße

Samuel

Am 26.10.2015 um 07:30 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
>
> sent from a phone
>
>> Am 25.10.2015 um 12:13 schrieb Peter Barth <osm-p...@won2.de>:
>>
>> ansich ja. Es war aber imho trotzdem nicht klar, dass zu den Aufgaben
>> der LWG auch noch das "Klagen" gegen Lizenzverletzungen gehört, die von
>> der Community nicht mehr lösbar sind. Das hat aber Simon netterweise im
>> Wiki konkretisiert.
>
> wo wir gerade beim Thema sind, die "friends" app von Apple nutzt dieselbe 
> Karte wie Apple maps, hat aber augenscheinlich überhaupt keine Attribution, 
> nirgends.
> Das wäre also ein Fall für die LWG? Soll ich das direkt an die LWG schreiben?
>
>
> Gruß,
> Martin
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Re: [Talk-ht] Mapping Party Haiti Communitere - Samdi 21 Novanm

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Waaawww... Mwen ankouraje nou anpil... Kenbe red pa moli Map pase nan
HC poum ka pote sipo pam... Robi, Delph, Xavier kenbe la... Ann kontinye fè
KONBIT

ALCE Samuel Paul,

Port-au-Prince, Haiti

Field Data Coordinator @ DAI / USAID
Géo-Information Specialist (GIS)
Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team member
OpenStreetMap contributor in Haiti

OSM username: ALCE Samuel Paul

Cell: (509) 4894-2175 / 4638-4875 / 4289-7651


Skype: samuelalce
Whatsapp: (509) 4289-7651
On Nov 18, 2015 11:52, "John-Carlo Sainvil" <johncarlosain...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Bonjou tout mape OSM, nan sousi pou kolabore nan fason Delphine Eksplike
> nou an, mwen swete mape ki disponib e enterese kapab vini sitou pou´n pale
> jan mwen sot li sa a de fiti OSm nan Ayiti.
>
>
>
> Byenvini deja.
>
> John C Sainvil
> Kontribite OSM
> Mail: johncarlosain...@gmail.com
> Twitter: @kozanm
>
> 2015-11-17 18:16 GMT-05:00 Delphine Bedu <delphine.b...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Bonjou tout moun,
> >
> >
> > Mwen ta vle enfòme nou k gen yon fòmasyon pou nouvo manm OSM ki te
> komanse
> > nan Haiti Communitere. 20 jeun ki sòti diferant kominote nan
> Port-au-Prince
> > te inisye nan mapping OSM. Pandan mwa novanm yon pral aprann kijan
> itilize
> > field paper, kijan itilize yon Gps, kijan itilize JOSM pou ajoute done
> nan
> > baz OSM. Yo pral travay tou sou ki aplikasyon konkret nou ka fe ak OSM.
> >
> > Robillard Louino ak Xavier Tardieu te komanse fòmasyon samdi 7 ak
> dimanch 8
> > novanm nan espas Haiti Communitere. Fomasyon te pase pa Konbit, kise yon
> > forme koman moun travay ansanm nan kilti ayisyen, kisa ki volontarya,
> kisa
> > ki benevola e koman sa ka ede nou nan mapping altenativ: koman nou ka
> > itilize cartographie preske nan tout bagay nan lavi nou.
> >
> > Si nou vle jwenn plis enfòmasyon sou sije sa, kontakte nou!
> >
> > N’ap òganize yon mapathon samdi 21 novanm, kote nou pral fe echanj ak
> > kominote nan togo (nan afrik).
> >
> > Tout mapper OSM yo envite pou vin patisipe!
> >
> >
> > Sa ta yon bel okazyon pou rankontre nouvo manm OSM tou. An plis potè sipò
> > lòt kominote, li ta ka yon bel okaszyon pou nou tout pale sou fiti OSM
> nan
> > Ayiti.
> >
> > Si ou enterese pou patisipe, fe nou konnen!
> >
> > Mwen ta renmen di anko yon fwa ke espas Haiti Communitere (HC) li toujou
> > ouvè pou kontribitè OSM e pou kominote ki travay nan avansman Ayiti.
> >
> > Nou ka itilize espas HC pou reyini oswa pou itilize computer lab ak akse
> > entenet. Nuo tyou gen kek GPS ki a dispozisyon manm OSM.
> >
> > HC se yon espas ki net e ki la pou fasilite koneksyon! (nou sitye nan
> > Pòtoprens, Clercine 4, 19 rue pélican)
> >
> > Mesi!
> >
> > Delphine
> > delph...@communitere.org
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[Talk-de] Massive OSM-Lizenz-Verletzung durch Kartenanbieter outdooractive.com (u. a. auch Alpenverein betroffen)

[Samuel Kutter]

Hallo allerseits,

1. mir ist auf einer Internetseite (http://www.tours3.com/tours), die
OSM-Karten benützt, aufgefallen, dass keine korrekte Quellenangaben ((c)
OSM contributors etc) vorhanden sind.

Ich bin dem nachgegangen und habe den Anbieter auf seine Pflicht nett
aufmerksam gemacht. Der Anbieter hat das zwar verstanden, aber
gleichzeitig wurde klar, dass die Karten von einem weiteren
Drittanbieter stammen: http://www.outdooractive.com

2. Diesem Hinweis bin ich wiederum nachgegangen und habe festgestellt,
dass Outdooractive auf ihren eigenen Seiten manchmal keinen Hinweis auf
OSM platziert bzw. manchmal so "gut" versteckt, dass man es eigentlich
nicht sieht, sprich, dass der Hinweis eigentlich fehlt.

Dies ist ernst zu nehmen, da Outdooractive z. B. auch prominente andere
Webseiten bedient, z. B. DAV, http://www.alpenvereinaktiv.com

Zwei nette Email-Hinweise an das Management von Outdooractive habe ich
abgesetzt im Sinn von: Es ist ja in Ordnung bzw. sogar begrüßenswert,
wenn OSM "kommerziell" benutzt wird, nur sollte ja zur Stärkung von OSM
auch die Quelle angegeben sein. Darin stimmen wir ja überein. - Ich habe
keine Antwort erhalten.

3. Ich habe die OSM-Stiftung informiert
(legal-questi...@osmfoundation.org) und auf diesen Sachverhalt
hingewiesen. Es geht ja in diesem Fall nicht nur um eine kleine
Internetseite irgendwo, sondern einen Drittanbieter, der zahlreiche
Internetseiten mit "illegalem" Material versorgt und die Lizenzierung so
massenweise verletzt.

Frage: Ich wollte hier die Liste fragen, was in vergleichbaren Fällen
unternommen wurde bzw. welche Schritte man noch unternehmen könnte. Ich
finde es unfair, wenn die OSM-LIzenz in diesem Ausmaß verletzt wird,
andererseits möchte ich mich nicht eigenmächtig im Namen von OSM
"aufplustern"... - Oder ist es uns egal?

Zur Beachtung an die Deutsche OSM-Community, und vielleicht als Anfang
eines gemeinsamen Vorgehens.

Viele Grüße

Samuel

PS: Meine Emails an Outdooractive:

 Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
Betreff: Re: Verbesserung Quellenangabe OSM
Datum: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 10:55:14 +0200
An: hartmut.wim...@outdooractive.com
Kopie (CC): bernhard.wim...@outdooractive.com



Sehr geehrter Herr Hartmut Wimmer,

ich wollte mich nochmals erkundigen, ob Sie unten stehende Hinweis
bearbeiten konnten.
Siehe auch:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attribution#List_of_usages_lacking_proper_attribution

Mit freundlichen Grüßen



 Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
Betreff: Verbesserung Quellenangabe OSM
Datum: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 10:10:01 +0200
An: hartmut.wim...@outdooractive.com


Sehr geehrter Herr Wimmer,

erst kürzlich wurde mir bewusst, wie viel Information outdooractive für
Partner zur Verfügung stellt und dass ich gerne und oft (über z. B. DAV)
die Dienste outdooractive benütze.

Einen Hinweis möchte ich jedoch loswerden als einer von vielen, vielen
Mitwirkenden von Openstreetmap: Sie benützen ja massiv die Daten von OSM
(was ja für OSM spricht), aber leider ist diese Quelle am wenigsten
prominent sichtbar gemacht, obwohl der Nutzen für die Allgemeinheit und
auch für Sie selbst möglicherweise viel größer ist als der Nutzen der
kommerziellen Anbieter wie Google. Ich meine damit, Sie selbst haben ein
großes Interesse, dass OSM in das Bewusstsein der Allgemeinheit rückt.

In diesem Sinne wäre es schön, wenn Sie die Copyright-Hinweise auf OSM
mindestens so prominent gestaltet wie die Hinweise auf Google bzw. auf
Sie selbst.

In den angehängten Screen-Shots können Sie sich überzeugen, dass Sie
zwar rein formal die Bedingungen von OSM erfüllen
(http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright), aber faktisch dem Betrachter
der Hinweis verborgen bleibt.

Zudem gibt es Seiten, auf denen der Hinweis auf OSM gänzlich fehlt
(siehe Anhang Nr. 3).

Bitte nehmen Sie sich der Sache an und implementieren Sie eine
Quellenangabe auf OSM gemäß den Lizenzrichtlinien in einer Form, wie Sie
auch auf kommerzielle Anbieten verweisen, und stellen Sie sicher, dass
der Hinweis über die API bei Ihren Kunden ebenfalls so sichtbar wird.
(In einem anderen Fall eines Kunden von Ihnen
(http://www.tours3.com/tours) fehlt bisher der Hinweis auf OSM vollständig.)

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Re: [Talk-de] Massive OSM-Lizenz-Verletzung durch Kartenanbieter outdooractive.com (u. a. auch Alpenverein betroffen)

[Samuel Kutter]

Puha, da habe ich ja was losgetreten...

Am 22.10.2015 um 21:14 schrieb Simon Poole:

> Hast du aktuell noch Beispiele ausser die kleinen Übersichtskarten,
> bei denen der Quellenhinweis fehlt?

Nein, auf outdooractive selbst habe ich nur die zwei Arten entdeckt:
1. OSM-Hinweis kontrastarm eingebettet, so dass er de facto nicht
erkennbar ist, wobei andere Quellen wesentlich prominenter angegeben
werden. (Siehe auch die gefallene Bemerkung zu 'Attributierungen zweiter
Klasse', die sozusagen absichtlich die Quelle schlecht angibt.)
2. OSM-HInweis fehlt ganz auf den Übersichtskarten (Home-Page, bzw.
Übersichtsseite zu einzelnen Touren) - Auch da ärgerlich, da die Quellen
zu den Fotos links detailliert angegeben werden.

Dies gilt wohl auch so mindestens für die meisten Kunden von
Outdooractive. "Mindestens", da nicht auszuschließen ist, dass es auch
gröbere Verletzungen gibt, z. B.

Bei dem einen Kunden jedoch (http://www.tours3.com/tours) ist zwar seit
neustem rechts oben ein Button "OSM", aber keine entsprechende
Quellenangaben. Auch da findet man ärgerlicherweise andere
Quellenangaben (Google).
(tours3.com haben übrigens prompt und engagiert reagiert, aber bekommen
es wohl nicht so einfach hin, da sie das Kartenmaterial von
Outdooractive beziehen. Ich müsste nochmals darauf hinweisen...)

Jetzt ist mir auch aufgefallen, dass z. B.
https://www.davplus.de/huetten offensichtlich auch OSM benutzt ohne
jegliche Hinweis auf OSM. Es *könnte* sein, dass das auch über
Outdooractive läuft, da Outdooractive DAVplus wiederum als Partner
gelistet hat...

Bisheriges Fazit entnehme ich der Diskussion: Sachverhalt zwar
grundsätzlich klar, aber Durchsetzung schwierig

Viele Grüße

Samuel

Am 22.10.2015 um 21:14 schrieb Simon Poole:
>
> Am 22.10.2015 um 10:26 schrieb Samuel Kutter:
>> Hallo allerseits,
>>
>> 1. mir ist auf einer Internetseite (http://www.tours3.com/tours), die
>> OSM-Karten benützt, aufgefallen, dass keine korrekte Quellenangaben ((c)
>> OSM contributors etc) vorhanden sind.
>>
>> Ich bin dem nachgegangen und habe den Anbieter auf seine Pflicht nett
>> aufmerksam gemacht. Der Anbieter hat das zwar verstanden, aber
>> gleichzeitig wurde klar, dass die Karten von einem weiteren
>> Drittanbieter stammen: http://www.outdooractive.com
>>
>> 2. Diesem Hinweis bin ich wiederum nachgegangen und habe festgestellt,
>> dass Outdooractive auf ihren eigenen Seiten manchmal keinen Hinweis auf
>> OSM platziert bzw. manchmal so "gut" versteckt, dass man es eigentlich
>> nicht sieht, sprich, dass der Hinweis eigentlich fehlt.
>>
> Hast du aktuell noch Beispiele ausser die kleinen Übersichtskarten , bei
> denen der Quellenhinweis fehlt?
>
> Der Verweis auf google wenn man die google map api verwendet ist zwar
> ägerlich von der OSM-Marketingperspektive, ist aber natürlich legal.
>
> Simon
>
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Re: [Talk-de] Massive OSM-Lizenz-Verletzung durch Kartenanbieter outdooractive.com (u. a. auch Alpenverein betroffen)

[Samuel Kutter]

PS: Als ob es Gedankenübertragung gibt. Heute habe ich eine Reaktion von
der Stiftung erhalten. Sie sind also dran.

"We haven't discussed this internally yet, but we typically will send
them a formal, registered mail if nothing else helps."

Kind regards

m 22.10.2015 um 10:26 schrieb Samuel Kutter:
> Hallo allerseits,
>
> 1. mir ist auf einer Internetseite (http://www.tours3.com/tours), die
> OSM-Karten benützt, aufgefallen, dass keine korrekte Quellenangaben ((c)
> OSM contributors etc) vorhanden sind.
>
> Ich bin dem nachgegangen und habe den Anbieter auf seine Pflicht nett
> aufmerksam gemacht. Der Anbieter hat das zwar verstanden, aber
> gleichzeitig wurde klar, dass die Karten von einem weiteren
> Drittanbieter stammen: http://www.outdooractive.com
>
> 2. Diesem Hinweis bin ich wiederum nachgegangen und habe festgestellt,
> dass Outdooractive auf ihren eigenen Seiten manchmal keinen Hinweis auf
> OSM platziert bzw. manchmal so "gut" versteckt, dass man es eigentlich
> nicht sieht, sprich, dass der Hinweis eigentlich fehlt.
>
> Dies ist ernst zu nehmen, da Outdooractive z. B. auch prominente andere
> Webseiten bedient, z. B. DAV, http://www.alpenvereinaktiv.com
>
> Zwei nette Email-Hinweise an das Management von Outdooractive habe ich
> abgesetzt im Sinn von: Es ist ja in Ordnung bzw. sogar begrüßenswert,
> wenn OSM "kommerziell" benutzt wird, nur sollte ja zur Stärkung von OSM
> auch die Quelle angegeben sein. Darin stimmen wir ja überein. - Ich habe
> keine Antwort erhalten.
>
> 3. Ich habe die OSM-Stiftung informiert
> (legal-questi...@osmfoundation.org) und auf diesen Sachverhalt
> hingewiesen. Es geht ja in diesem Fall nicht nur um eine kleine
> Internetseite irgendwo, sondern einen Drittanbieter, der zahlreiche
> Internetseiten mit "illegalem" Material versorgt und die Lizenzierung so
> massenweise verletzt.
>
> Frage: Ich wollte hier die Liste fragen, was in vergleichbaren Fällen
> unternommen wurde bzw. welche Schritte man noch unternehmen könnte. Ich
> finde es unfair, wenn die OSM-LIzenz in diesem Ausmaß verletzt wird,
> andererseits möchte ich mich nicht eigenmächtig im Namen von OSM
> "aufplustern"... - Oder ist es uns egal?
>
> Zur Beachtung an die Deutsche OSM-Community, und vielleicht als Anfang
> eines gemeinsamen Vorgehens.
>
> Viele Grüße
>
> Samuel
>
> PS: Meine Emails an Outdooractive:
>
>  Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
> Betreff: Re: Verbesserung Quellenangabe OSM
> Datum: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 10:55:14 +0200
> An: hartmut.wim...@outdooractive.com
> Kopie (CC): bernhard.wim...@outdooractive.com
>
>
>
> Sehr geehrter Herr Hartmut Wimmer,
>
> ich wollte mich nochmals erkundigen, ob Sie unten stehende Hinweis
> bearbeiten konnten.
> Siehe auch:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attribution#List_of_usages_lacking_proper_attribution
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>
>
>
>  Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
> Betreff: Verbesserung Quellenangabe OSM
> Datum: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 10:10:01 +0200
> An: hartmut.wim...@outdooractive.com
>
>
> Sehr geehrter Herr Wimmer,
>
> erst kürzlich wurde mir bewusst, wie viel Information outdooractive für
> Partner zur Verfügung stellt und dass ich gerne und oft (über z. B. DAV)
> die Dienste outdooractive benütze.
>
> Einen Hinweis möchte ich jedoch loswerden als einer von vielen, vielen
> Mitwirkenden von Openstreetmap: Sie benützen ja massiv die Daten von OSM
> (was ja für OSM spricht), aber leider ist diese Quelle am wenigsten
> prominent sichtbar gemacht, obwohl der Nutzen für die Allgemeinheit und
> auch für Sie selbst möglicherweise viel größer ist als der Nutzen der
> kommerziellen Anbieter wie Google. Ich meine damit, Sie selbst haben ein
> großes Interesse, dass OSM in das Bewusstsein der Allgemeinheit rückt.
>
> In diesem Sinne wäre es schön, wenn Sie die Copyright-Hinweise auf OSM
> mindestens so prominent gestaltet wie die Hinweise auf Google bzw. auf
> Sie selbst.
>
> In den angehängten Screen-Shots können Sie sich überzeugen, dass Sie
> zwar rein formal die Bedingungen von OSM erfüllen
> (http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright), aber faktisch dem Betrachter
> der Hinweis verborgen bleibt.
>
> Zudem gibt es Seiten, auf denen der Hinweis auf OSM gänzlich fehlt
> (siehe Anhang Nr. 3).
>
> Bitte nehmen Sie sich der Sache an und implementieren Sie eine
> Quellenangabe auf OSM gemäß den Lizenzrichtlinien in einer Form, wie Sie
> auch auf kommerzielle Anbieten verweisen, und stellen Sie sicher, dass
> der Hinweis über die API bei Ihren Kunden ebenfalls so sichtbar wird.
> (In einem anderen Fall eines Kunden von Ihnen
> (http://www.tours3.com/tours) fehlt bisher der Hinweis auf OSM vollständig.)
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>
>


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Re: [Talk-ht] Bonsoir tous les mappeurs d`OSM j`aimerais savoir comment peut-on faire pour taguer une plage

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Hello Ferry...
 Ca va? Je suis heureux de voir ta volonte et ton
courage de contribuer a OSM. Felicitation! Je t'encourage, et bonne
continuite.
Je t'evoie un lien OSM WIKI qui repond a ta question.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Beach

Je t'encourage a faire de OSM WIKI ton ami ton compagnon de travail. C'est
facile a utiliser et bien detailler.

Un lien direct vers MAPFEATURES. Cela repondra a tes prochaines questions
sans doute ;)

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Map_Features

Bon travail Ferry!

PS:
-Sorry je ne suis pas sur ordi (j'utilise mon telephone)

-Tu a ecris le ton message dans la partie ou tu devrais mettre le sujet du
message!

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Re: [Talk-ca] Appel aux contributeurs de Montréal

[Samuel Paul ALCE]

Bonjour a tous...
 Je suis ALCE Samuel Paul. Je suis a Montreal depuis quelques jours 
et j'aimerais bien participer activement au differents activites OSM tout comme 
j'ai l'habitude de le faire avant...
  Je suis actuellement libre et je peux aider dans les travaux sur les 
provinces comme a signaler Bruno.
faites moi part de vos activites...
Merci...

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Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Appel aux contributeurs de Montréal

Bonjour Bruno,

On pourrait se faire un chat ou autre réunion virtuelle et voir comment nous 
pouvons avancer de ce côté.

Je devrais aussi avoir plus de temps libre à partir de la semaine prochaine.



Pierre




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Bonjour à tous,

Ces derniers temps, je n'ai pas pu m'investir autant que désiré dans le projet 
commun avec l'équipe des contributeurs de Montréal. Je fais appel à vous, 
Pierre, Charles, et les autres?
Peut-on réaligner nos efforts sur ce que l'on a commencé au niveau de la 
province? ;)

Au plaisir!


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Re: [Talk-ht] (sans objet)

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Salut a tous
Sev, Est-ce qu'il y a possibilite où layer peut avoir pour valeur=-1 ou -2
etc...???
On Mar 5, 2014 5:32 PM, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.com wrote:

 lane=3 pour le nombre de voies
 layer=1 si au-dessus du sol (ce tag est aussi utilisé pour un pont). Si une
 autre route est encroe dessus : layer =2 etc.


 2014-03-05 23:04 GMT+01:00 Dagno louis djdagn...@gmail.com:

  J'aimerais savoir comment tagger une route suspendue possédant 3 voix!
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Re: [Talk-ht] (sans objet)

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Je voulais juste attirer l'attention des autres mais je le savais deja.
Merci Sev.
On Mar 5, 2014 6:05 PM, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oui, c'est possible mais c'est considéré alors comme souterrain. Regardez
 le tag layer dans le wiki OSM.
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 Salut a tous
 Sev, Est-ce qu'il y a possibilite où layer peut avoir pour valeur=-1 ou
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Re: [Talk-br] OSM no FISL15

[Samuel Vale]

Olá Wille,

Desculpe a demora :).

Em Dom, 2014-02-09 às 12:43 -0300, Wille escreveu:
 De 07 a 10 de maio vai acontecer em Porto Alegre o FISL 15, o maior 
 evento de software livre da América Latina: http://softwarelivre.org/fisl15
 
 Ano passado substituí o Samuel Vale numa palestra sobre o OSM. E foi 
 numa outra edição do FISL que conheci o OSM assistindo uma palestra de 
 Arlindo. Considero que é uma boa oportunidade para mais pessoas 
 conhecerem o OSM.

Obrigado pela força lá Wille! Espero que tenha corrido tudo bem :). Acho
que ter no mínimo um encontro de mapeadores importante. Na vez que
palestrei com o Arlindo conhecemos gente de outros países que estavam lá
apresentando outros trabalhos, e foi muito legal.

 Esse ano, pensei em propormos não só uma, mas várias palestras, 
 abordando diferentes aspectos do projeto. Assim, gostaria de saber quem 
 tem interesse em apresentar algo no FISL para que possamos articular uma 
 ação em conjunto e para que não façamos propostas de palestras repetidas.

Não sei se poderei ir este ano :(. Para quem for, boa sorte e aproveitem
bem!

Grande abraço,
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Re: [Talk-br] Aplicativo para navegação usando dados OSM

[Samuel Vale]

Em Seg, 2014-02-03 às 16:04 -0200, Nelson A. de Oliveira escreveu:
 O ruim do osmand (para alguns usuários) é que não tem uma visão em
 3D enquanto se navega (é sempre uma vista por cima, plana).
 Geralmente quem faz questão desse tipo de visão acaba utilizando
 outros como https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cz.aponia.bor3

Oi Nelson,
Existe o Navit, que tem essa visualização 3D. Acho que tem menos
ferramentas que o Osmand, mas vale dar uma olhada. Eu utilizo o Osmand
normalmente.

http://www.navit-project.org/

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Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 66, Issue 18

[samuel cruz]

OsmAnd can only be downloaded using you android phone. there's non for ios. for 
the free version, you can download only 10 times whether maps or add ons like 
tts but this is what i noticed.  i downloaded the application and installed it. 
i copoied the downloaded map to my ext sdcard coz i needed to reformat my cell 
phone. after reformatting my cellphone, i reinstall OsmAnd and allow me to 
download 10 time like its my first time to dl from what they allowed, on top of 
what i have dl before





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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:29:39 +0800
From: rem zamora pompy...@gmail.com
To: tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.com
Cc: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] latest map download
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If you use OSMAnd on your android, you can also get the latest OSM map for
PH Tutubi. :) That's what I use in android. There's a freeware version
where you can download new maps in a limited number of times :)


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tut...@backpackingphilippines.comwrote:

 i see
 can't see it on top of Google search, needs some push up the SERP :)

 thanks,

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 On Jan 29, 2014, at 11:07 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
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 Dear Tutubi,

 Ervin took over the the garmin map compilation.
 Download here: http://www.s1expeditions.com/p/openstreetmaps.html
 Last update was Jan 27, 2014

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 tut...@backpackingphilippines.com wrote:


 Hi!


 i may have missed it here or not really available but where can I download

 the latest Ph map? january 2014?


 my Nuvi's map is soo outdated now, I'm only using Citymap2Go on iOS and

 other apps in Android


 thanks



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hi Rem,

yes, i have the free OSMAnd :)

i just need to update my now seldom used Garmin Nuvi :(

thanks,

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On Jan 29, 2014, at 11:29 AM, rem zamora pompy...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you use OSMAnd on your android, you can also get the latest OSM map for PH 
 Tutubi. :) That's what I use in android. There's a freeware version where you 
 can download new maps in a limited number of times :) 
 
 
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Re: [Talk-ht] Philippines super typhoon

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Salut a tous!
   Utilisez vous l'imagerie BING ou est ce qu'il y a une autre
disponible?
 Merci!
On Nov 12, 2013 10:08 AM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:

 Bonjour

 Salutations à COSMHANNE et les autres communautés OSM de Haiti.

 La communauté HOT a réagi tres rapidement suite à ce désastre. En plus de
 la tâche que Fred vous a montré, il y a en beacoup d'autres.

 Cette carte Croix-Rouge est une première évaluation des dégâts de la ville
 de Tacloban . L'Imagerie Post-Désastre a été utilisée pour évaluer les
 dommages. Les bâtiments déja tracés par les contributeurs OSM ont été tres
 utiles. La Croix-Rouge a pu colorier ces immeubles en fonction de
 l'évaluation des dommages.
 voir http://a.tiles.mapbox.com/v3/americanredcross.map-ms6tihx6/page.html# 
 15/11.2156/125.0162

 Croix-Rouge : Une carte générale, Niveau de Dommage  , 11 Novembre
 http://a.tiles.mapbox.com/v3/americanredcross.map-c8h7djtl/page.html #
 10/11.1319/124.4710

 Cet article dit que nous coordonnons sur Twitter qui n'est pas tout a fait
 exact. Bon, je sais bien que vous aimez beaucoup communiquer avec ces
 réseaux, mais quand même!  Mais bon, c'est un très bon article montrant les
 efforts des collaborateurs OSM. Il y a aussi plusieurs cartes intéressantes.

 Voir aussi une Carte OSM des Philippines , Avant / Après le Typhon. Merci
 à Paul Norman qui a fait une couche montrant OSM avant la catastrophe.

 http://pierzen.dev.openstreetmap.org/hot/leaflet/OSM-Compare-before-after-philippines.html



 Pierre



 
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 À : frmoine frmo...@gmail.com
 Cc : talk-ht@openstreetmap.org
 Envoyé le : Mardi 12 novembre 2013 9h59
 Objet : Re: [Talk-ht] Philippines super typhoon


 Merci pour votre information nous allons porter la main forte.
 COSMHANNE

 On Nov 12, 2013 9:52 AM, frmoine frmo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bonjour Chere communauté,

 Je viens vers vous pour vous signaler l'effort de la communauté OSM pour
 aider nos amis  des philippines dans la catastrophe qui les touchent en ce
 moment.

 Votre aide sera la bienvenue pour cartographie les bâtiments, puis
 compléter le réseau routier.

 Allez sur le tasking manager de HOT, le meme que l'on utilise en haiti

 exemple: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/348

 Cordialement FredMoine

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Re: [Talk-ht] Philippines super typhoon

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Merci pour la precision Pierre!
On Nov 12, 2013 12:15 PM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:

 Bonjour Samuel,

 nous utilisons l'imagerie Bing. Mais, il y a des endroits où l'imagerie
 haute définition n'est pas disponible. Fred essaie de nous trouver des
 images.


 Pierre

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 *À :* Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr
 *Cc :* talk-ht@openstreetmap.org talk-ht@openstreetmap.org; frmoine 
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 *Envoyé le :* Mardi 12 novembre 2013 11h15
 *Objet :* Re: [Talk-ht] Philippines super typhoon

 Salut a tous!
Utilisez vous l'imagerie BING ou est ce qu'il y a une autre
 disponible?
  Merci!
 On Nov 12, 2013 10:08 AM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:

 Bonjour

 Salutations à COSMHANNE et les autres communautés OSM de Haiti.

 La communauté HOT a réagi tres rapidement suite à ce désastre. En plus de
 la tâche que Fred vous a montré, il y a en beacoup d'autres.

 Cette carte Croix-Rouge est une première évaluation des dégâts de la ville
 de Tacloban . L'Imagerie Post-Désastre a été utilisée pour évaluer les
 dommages. Les bâtiments déja tracés par les contributeurs OSM ont été tres
 utiles. La Croix-Rouge a pu colorier ces immeubles en fonction de
 l'évaluation des dommages.
 voir http://a.tiles.mapbox.com/v3/americanredcross.map-ms6tihx6/page.html# 
 15/11.2156/125.0162

 Croix-Rouge : Une carte générale, Niveau de Dommage  , 11 Novembre
 http://a.tiles.mapbox.com/v3/americanredcross.map-c8h7djtl/page.html #
 10/11.1319/124.4710

 Cet article dit que nous coordonnons sur Twitter qui n'est pas tout a fait
 exact. Bon, je sais bien que vous aimez beaucoup communiquer avec ces
 réseaux, mais quand même!  Mais bon, c'est un très bon article montrant les
 efforts des collaborateurs OSM. Il y a aussi plusieurs cartes intéressantes.

 Voir aussi une Carte OSM des Philippines , Avant / Après le Typhon. Merci
 à Paul Norman qui a fait une couche montrant OSM avant la catastrophe.

 http://pierzen.dev.openstreetmap.org/hot/leaflet/OSM-Compare-before-after-philippines.html



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 Objet : Re: [Talk-ht] Philippines super typhoon


 Merci pour votre information nous allons porter la main forte.
 COSMHANNE

 On Nov 12, 2013 9:52 AM, frmoine frmo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bonjour Chere communauté,

 Je viens vers vous pour vous signaler l'effort de la communauté OSM pour
 aider nos amis  des philippines dans la catastrophe qui les touchent en ce
 moment.

 Votre aide sera la bienvenue pour cartographie les bâtiments, puis
 compléter le réseau routier.

 Allez sur le tasking manager de HOT, le meme que l'on utilise en haiti

 exemple: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/348

 Cordialement FredMoine

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Re: [Talk-ht] Talking about OSM on Radio Lumiere,Haiti

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Eklat!! So Derchy and Bully i am proud of you guys!!! As we
planned, I am online for any question during the interview, cours or radio
training! So lets go guys! Lets go!
On Sep 28, 2013 8:57 AM, Jean Bully PROPHETE jeanbu...@gmail.com wrote:

   Schneider Remy and Jean Bully Prophete are invited to talk about OSM and
 related option (Mobile app, crisis utility, ...) on Radio Lumiere.
 This event is in about three (3) hours and can listened on
 www.radiolumiere.org .
 The eventual issue is for those who do not speak creole because we will be
 interviewed in creole.
 If you are in Haiti turn your radio to 97.7 FM.
 OSM is to great to be unknown.

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[Talk-ht] OSM Training on Radio Lumière

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Hello guys!
   I am really surprise to see another way to let people
know about OSM. Remy Schneider aka Derchy (Haitian OSM contributor) is
giving a training now on radio lumière 97.7 ( people are calling to for
questions). Its really another way to prouve how powerful OSM is in Haiti.
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Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 62, Issue 14

[samuel cruz]

try using time album. this comes when you buy columbus trackker



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Today's Topics:

   1. Ervin's Mapping Advocates blog post (Eugene Alvin Villar)
   2. recommended csv format (Rally de Leon)
   3. Re: recommended csv format (Jim Morgan)
   4. Re: recommended csv format (Wayne Manuel)
   5. Re: recommended csv format (Ed Garcia)
   6. Re: recommended csv format (Rally de Leon)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 00:56:47 +0800
From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
To: OpenStreetMap Philippines talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [talk-ph] Ervin's Mapping Advocates blog post
Message-ID:
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Hi guys,

Ervin has posted a nice article on his blog where he interviewed volunteer
mappers who contribute to OSM, RoadGuide.ph, WaypointsDotPH, and Google Map
Maker:
http://www.s1expeditions.com/2013/09/100-philippinemappingadvocates.html

The OSM interviewees include myself, Maning, Ian, Ed, Rem, and Tutubi.
There's also Rally. :)
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 11:22:26 +0800
From: Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.com
To: OSM talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [talk-ph] recommended csv format
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Dear all,

Which is the more common / preferred format for csv
lat,long,name or long,lat,name? and why do you prefer one over the other?
(eg. less hassle, less clicks to import csv to common GIS softwares)

If I am to recommend to ordinary people a free conversion utility, which
one? (my 2 preferred utility have different csv format)

If i use gpsbabel's generic (Comma separated values) option (eg. kml to
csv conversion)--- gpsbabel -w -i kml -f filename.kml -o csv -F
filename.csv
csv will be in this order--- lat,long,name

If i use another easy-to-use/free/multi-platform KMLCSV (from
http://choonchernlim.com/kmlcsv/ )
kml to csv conversion will give you--- long,lat,name

KMLCSV is very easy to use and allows ordinary people to view the POI's on
built-in google maps for quick verification. easy to install, easy to
distribute, virtually idiot-proof.

GPSBabel is universal, has gui and  command line, but has too many
option-buttons that can be confusing for ordinary user.

or is there a way gpsbabel can convert (kml to csv) or (osm to csv) in
long,lat,name csv format?

Thanks,
Rally
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 12:06:05 +0800
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On Thursday, 19 September, 2013 11:22 AM, Rally de Leon wrote:
 lat,long,name or long,lat,name? and why do you prefer one over the 
 other? (eg. less hassle, less clicks to import csv to common GIS 
 softwares)
Just my opinion: when people talk about co-ordinates, they normally talk 
about Lat and Long (almost never Long and Lat), so they should probably 
be in that order! I'd say gpsbabel has it right, and your other software 
is swimming against the tide.

The advantage of XML formats as opposed to CSV, is that they specify 
that each point is either lat/lat or long/long so there is no 
ambiguity.

Jim



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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 12:15:52 +0800
From: Wayne Manuel wdman...@gmail.com
To: Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.com
Cc: OSM talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] recommended csv format
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Personally, I prefer lat-long. Easier to tell people that it should be
alphabetical. And that at least in the PHL, 

Re: [Talk-ht] Croix-Rouge : Cartographie, Nord de Haiti

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Hello,
 Heureux de te lire Pierre... Je pense que la communaute sera
contente de cette idee, je suis dispo si seulement ils auront besoin d'aide

*ALCE Samuel Paul, *
*Géo-Information Specialist
**OpenStreetMap** contributor in Haiti

(509) 4638-4875 / 3921-7181 / 4289-7651


Skype: samuelalce*



Le 17 août 2013 11:42, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr a écrit :

 Bonjour a tous.

 Robert Banick de la Croix-Rouge invite la communauté HOT à contribuer à
 cartographier le nord de Haiti. Voici la traduction de son communiqué et
 salutations aux amis de Haiti.


 Pierre



 

 Salut à tous,

 Je vous écris pour demander l'assistance de la communauté HOT avec une
 sériede tâches que la Croix-Rouge américaine a ajouté au Gestionnaire de
 tâches de HOT. Nous cherchons à cartographier les routes, les bâtiments et
 l'occupation du sol pour6 sections communales dans le nord de Haïti ciblées
 pour d'importants travaux de la Croix-Rouge au cours des années à venir.

 Les tâches en questionsont :

 Caracol - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/280
 Ferrier  Ouanaminthe - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/284
 Borgne - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/285
 Bahon - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/286
 Ranquitte  La Victoire - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/287


 Vue d'ensemble

 Nous allons travailler dans plus de 100 communautés au sein de ces
 sections communales et aimerions vraiment avoir des cartes détaillées et
 exactes  des communautés et des territoires avoisinants. Nous avons prévu
 de travailler avec des haïtiens bénévoles de la Croix-Rouge et du personnel
 e de cartographier beaucoup par nous-mêmes. Cependant, il y a juste trop de
 terrain à couvrir à l'intérieur de notre calendrier.

 On a donc pensé démarrer en invitant les contributeurs OSM pour une phase
 initiale. Nous avons besoin de votre aide pour créer une carte des zones en
 question, avec en ordre d'importance : routes, bâtiments, occupation du
 sol. À partir de là, nos équipes présentes sur le terrain pourront enrichir
 la carte de base dans OSM pour les communautés en question. Nous allons
 ensuite utiliser des modules SIG participatifs s'appuyant OSM pour notre
 processus d'évaluation.

 L'objectif final? Analyse plus approfondie menant à une programmation plus
 réactive. Et la preuve du concept qu'OSM est un choix naturel pour les
 travaux de SIG participatif.

 Au plaisir

 Notre espoir est de s'appuyer sur l'excellent travail déjà accompli par
 l'équipe HOT dans le Nord d'Haïti. Nous avons été en contact avec l'équipe
 à partir de là et nous espérons travailler avec le personnel local HOT
 formé pendant le récent programme. Nous vous inforerons davantage à mesure
 de l'avancement des travaux.

 Merci à tous ceux qui ont contribué à ces tâches jusqu'ici.

 Amitiés,
 Robert





 
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 À : h...@openstreetmap.org h...@openstreetmap.org
 Cc : Kunce, Dale dale.ku...@redcross.org; Joseph, Daniel B. 
 daniel.jos...@redcross.org; Folkman, Emma emma.folk...@redcross.org
 Envoyé le : Samedi 17 août 2013 11h59
 Objet : [HOT] Red Cross Tasks in Northern Haiti



 Hi All,

 I'm writing to ask for the assistance of the HOT community with a couple
 of tasks that the American Red Cross has added to the tasking manager.
 We're looking to map the roads, buildings and basic land uses in 6 sections
 communales in Northern Haiti targeted for extensive Red Cross work over the
 coming years.

 The tasks in question:

 Caracol - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/280
 Ferrier  Ouanaminthe - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/284
 Borgne - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/285
 Bahon - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/286
 Ranquitte  La Victoire Tracing Task - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/287


 
 The overview
 We'll be working in over 100 communities within these sections communales
 and would really like to have accurate, detailed maps of the communities
 and the surrounding environs. We've planned to work with Haitian Red Cross
 volunteers and staff to do much of the mapping ourselves, but it's just too
 much terrain to possibly cover it all on the ground within our timeframe.

 As such, we wanted to pitch some of the initial footwork to the crowd. We
 need your help creating a map skeleton of the areas in question: roads,
 buildings, land uses (in that order of importance). Our teams on the ground
 will take it from there, creating rich, detailed base maps in OSM for the
 communities in question. We'll then use these to for a participatory GIS
 module leveraging OSM within our assessment process.

 The end goal? Stronger analysis leading to more responsive programming.
 And proof of the concept that OSM is a natural fit for participatory GIS
 work.

 Looking forward
 Our hope is to build on the work on the excellent work already done by the
 HOT team in the North of Haiti. We've been in contact with the team from
 there and hope to work with the local HOT staff trained up during

Re: [Talk-ht] Cartographie des quartiers inondés à Khartoum au Soudan

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Salut a tous
Je lance l'invitation a COSMHANNE et COSMHA STM sur cet
urgence, car vous avez un espace de travail et aussi c'est un moyen de vous
tenir actifs. Et aussi je vous rappelle mes freres quand vous participez a
ce genre de collaboration vous aidez le pays et aussi vous grandissez
durant vos exercices. Je suis disponible si vous avez des problemes (
techniques et autres) et que vous voulez avoir des explications en creole
pour une meilleur conprehention.

OSM pour la vie.
On Aug 10, 2013 2:00 PM, Severin MENARD severin.men...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bonsoir à tous,

 Khartoum, la capitale du Soudan, subit depuis début août de très fortes
 pluies qui donne lieu à des inondations et des zones totalement sous les
 eaux, faisant déjà plusieurs victimes. Les prévisions météorologiques
 annoncent un maintien des conditions météorologiques. Vous pouvez suivre
 l'évolution de la situation sur khartoumflood.crowdmap.com.

 La réponse humanitaire est coordonnée sur le terrain par le PNUD.

 J'ai créé un premier job du Gestionnaire de tâches de HOT (*OSM Tasking
 Manager*) afin de coordonner la cartographie des quartiers de Marabee El
 Shareif et Soba East: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/289. D'autres quartiers
 viendront. Je vais aussi créer bientôt une page wiki.

 SVP cartographiez tous les rues et bâtiments de la zone du job afin
 d'obtenir la situation pré-crise, sur laquelle une analyse des dommages
 sera effectuée. La donnée OSM sur Khartoum est téléchargeable dans
 différents formats SIG à partir du service HOT Export ; j'y ai configuré ce
 job : http://export.hotosm.org/en/jobs/4233.

 Pour ceux qui ne connaissent pas le Tasking Manager (pas encore traduit en
 français malheureusement), il suffit de cliquer sur l'onglet Task et de
 sélectionner une case dans la carte, qui vous est alors réservée pour les
 deux prochaines heures. Si la case vous semble trop grosse pour le temps
 que vous avez à consacrer pour cartographier, vous pouvez la diviser en
 quatre en cliquant sur Split it.

 Cliquez ensuite sur votre éditeur préféré. Pour JOSM, il faut que la
 fonction télécommande soit activée dans les préférences et que JOSM soit
 déjà ouvert.

 Une fois la tâche faite, vous retournez sur la page du *Tasking Manager* et
 cliquez sur Mark task as done (vous pouvez ajouter un commentaire dans la
 zone jsute au-dessus si besoin). La case apparaît alors en rouge.


 Merci à celles et ceux qui participeront !

 Bien cordialement,


 Séverin

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Re: [Talk-ht] Cartographie des quartiers inondés à Khartoum au Soudan

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

C'est qu'elle imagerie qu'on va utiliser? Est ce qu'on n'utilisera pas
d'offset? J'ose poser ces questions parce que je suis sur mon telephone
donc je n'ai pas la possibilite de verifier en ce moment, et aussi juste
pour avoir plus d'infos pour mes collegues mappers en HAITI qui vont
commencer a aider dès la reception de cet email.
On Aug 10, 2013 4:46 PM, ALCE, Samuel Paul alcesamuelp...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Salut a tous
 Je lance l'invitation a COSMHANNE et COSMHA STM sur
 cet urgence, car vous avez un espace de travail et aussi c'est un moyen de
 vous tenir actifs. Et aussi je vous rappelle mes freres quand vous
 participez a ce genre de collaboration vous aidez le pays et aussi vous
 grandissez durant vos exercices. Je suis disponible si vous avez des
 problemes ( techniques et autres) et que vous voulez avoir des explications
 en creole pour une meilleur conprehention.

 OSM pour la vie.
 On Aug 10, 2013 2:00 PM, Severin MENARD severin.men...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Bonsoir à tous,

 Khartoum, la capitale du Soudan, subit depuis début août de très fortes
 pluies qui donne lieu à des inondations et des zones totalement sous les
 eaux, faisant déjà plusieurs victimes. Les prévisions météorologiques
 annoncent un maintien des conditions météorologiques. Vous pouvez suivre
 l'évolution de la situation sur khartoumflood.crowdmap.com.

 La réponse humanitaire est coordonnée sur le terrain par le PNUD.

 J'ai créé un premier job du Gestionnaire de tâches de HOT (*OSM Tasking
 Manager*) afin de coordonner la cartographie des quartiers de Marabee El
 Shareif et Soba East: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/289. D'autres quartiers
 viendront. Je vais aussi créer bientôt une page wiki.

 SVP cartographiez tous les rues et bâtiments de la zone du job afin
 d'obtenir la situation pré-crise, sur laquelle une analyse des dommages
 sera effectuée. La donnée OSM sur Khartoum est téléchargeable dans
 différents formats SIG à partir du service HOT Export ; j'y ai configuré
 ce
 job : http://export.hotosm.org/en/jobs/4233.

 Pour ceux qui ne connaissent pas le Tasking Manager (pas encore traduit en
 français malheureusement), il suffit de cliquer sur l'onglet Task et de
 sélectionner une case dans la carte, qui vous est alors réservée pour les
 deux prochaines heures. Si la case vous semble trop grosse pour le temps
 que vous avez à consacrer pour cartographier, vous pouvez la diviser en
 quatre en cliquant sur Split it.

 Cliquez ensuite sur votre éditeur préféré. Pour JOSM, il faut que la
 fonction télécommande soit activée dans les préférences et que JOSM soit
 déjà ouvert.

 Une fois la tâche faite, vous retournez sur la page du *Tasking Manager*
 et
 cliquez sur Mark task as done (vous pouvez ajouter un commentaire dans la
 zone jsute au-dessus si besoin). La case apparaît alors en rouge.


 Merci à celles et ceux qui participeront !

 Bien cordialement,


 Séverin

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Re: [Talk-br] Fwd: [Transifex] New announcement in project iD Editor

[Samuel Vale]

Em Seg, 2013-08-05 às 09:55 -0300, Samuel Vale escreveu:
 Em Seg, 2013-08-05 às 02:01 +, Fernando Trebien escreveu:
  Oi Blademir,
  
  Só pra avisar, na discussão que está se desenrolando no fórum, acho
  que chegamos a um bom nome para living street: via partilhada com
  pedestres. Foi inspirado no conceito australiano de shared zone:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shared_Zone
 
 Olá Fernando,
 
 Discordo do termo. Consultando o Features do wiki, o texto diz que nas
 living streets os pedestres tem prioridade sobre veículos motorizados.
 Talvez a tradução deva sugerir ao contrário: uma via de pedestres onde
 carros podem transitar em baixa velocidade. Além disso, o texto diz que
 pedestres tem prioridade legal sobre veículos, o que nunca vi por estas
 bandas em área residenciais.
 
 Consultando a entrada abaixo na página de Features, a etiqueta
 highway=pedestrian sugere que seja o mesmo tipo de via, mas aplicado
 numa área comercial.

Correção: pode ser aplicado numa área comercial. A primeira parece ser
algo mais comum lá, será que temos algo parecido no Brasil?

Até,

 Abraço,
 
  2013/8/4 Fernando Trebien fernando.treb...@gmail.com:
   Já troquei pra pátio na minha planilha. :D
  
   Certamente viela significa rua estreita. O problema é que living
   street quer dizer outra coisa. Nem no wiki nem na Wikipédia há menção
   à largura da rua, mas ambos se referem à dificuldade de passar pela
   via devido à presença de pedestres, que nela têm a preferência para
   circulação.
  
   Considerando isso, nem viela nem rua viva traduzem bem essa
   definição. Viela porque sugere que a rua é estreita (ela pode ser, mas
   nem sempre é), e rua viva porque a rua não está de fato viva. Aí vão
   mais algumas idéias.
  
   Características citadas no wiki
   (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dliving_street):
   - generally have lower speed limits, and special traffic/parking
   rules compared to streets tagged using highway=residential
   - Terms for these street vary considerably around the world and
   include Home Zone (UK), Woonerf (Netherlands/Flanders),
   'Verkehrsberuhigter Bereich'
 - Home Zone: zona de habitação/moradia -
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_zone
 - Woonerf: bairro/zona residencial
 - Verkehrsberuhigter Bereich: zona de tráfego acalmado
  
   Todos os países listados têm velocidade máxima de 20km/h e preferência
   ao tráfego de pedestres nessas ruas. A primeira característica é fácil
   descrever: via de baixa velocidade. A segunda, nem tanto, pode se
   confundir com calçadão, como você disse, exceto que no calçadão o
   acesso a veículos é proibido.
  
   Dentre os países listados, apenas a Itália não usa living streets,
   onde eles decidiram usar living street apenas nos raros lugares onde
   aparece uma placa específica. E só a Inglaterra tem uma menção a ruas
   estreitas no código de trânsito (e pelo wiki, parece que living street
   se aplica a esse caso lá também):
   https://www.gov.uk/road-users-requiring-extra-care-204-to-225/pedestrians-205-to-210
  
   Características citadas na Wikipédia
   (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Living_street):
   - França: Zone de rencontre (zona de reunião/encontro)
   - Suécia: Gångfartsområde (zona de velocidade de caminhada)
   - Suíça: Begegnungszone (zona de encontro)
   - Estados Unidos: Complete street (rua completa) -
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_streets
   - Outros países: rua/zona/área residencial
  
   Que tal coisas mais como rua em zona de encontro (talvez impreciso
   demais), rua em zona de pedestres (talvez com um pouco de confusão
   ainda) ou rua em zona de caminhada (que pode dar a impressão de uma
   área de esportes)?
  
   2013/8/4 Blademir Andrade de Lima blademi...@hotmail.com:
   Boa Noite.
  
   Bom, a tradução que encontrei para o Living street seria Viela, que se
   encaixaria para o seu uso no Brasil.
  
   City e Town acho melhor abrirmos um outra discussão porque essa vai 
   render.
  
   Apron: Eu voto pelo termo Pátio.
  
   Fiz umas traduções do JOSM, seria ideal que entre elas e o ID sejam as
   mesmas.
  
   Forte Abraço
  
   Blademir Andrade de Lima
  
   From: fernando.treb...@gmail.com
   Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 14:42:40 +
  
   To: talk-br@openstreetmap.org
   Subject: Re: [Talk-br] Fwd: [Transifex] New announcement in project iD
   Editor
  
   Hehe ok, fui eu mesmo quem insistiu no uso de living street para
   ruas muito estreitas e para as preferenciais de pedestre, como você
   tem usado. A comunidade ainda não me parece concordar plenamente com
   esses usos, e certamente isso tem um impacto na tradução que
   escolhermos para o termo. Que outros termos você sugere então?
  
   City e town é a mesmo tipo de problema, acho que nunca foi discutido
   aqui. Não vejo muito motivo pra não usar essa distinção se isso afeta
   o renderizador (especialmente nos níveis de ampliação mais afastados).
   Só faria sentido não usar se todas as cidades estivessem com

Re: [Talk-ht] Lot Talk-ht, Vol 37, Parution 2

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Bonsoir a tous!
  Vous prouver la vonlote que vous avez pour
participer volontairement a l'agrandissement de OSM en Haiti. Je vous
remercie tres chers mappers,et profite de vous inviter (particulierement
ceux de Port-au-Prince) dans la premiere phase du projet volontaire qui
consiste a faire l'inventaire des materiels que HAITI COMMUNITERE a deja en
sa procession. Apres on saura  exactement les ressources qu'on a, et
planifier sur comment aboder le grand depart. Merci deja a vous tous.
On Aug 2, 2013 6:12 PM, Alouidor Lesly Louis leslyloui...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Salut , je suis disponible
 On Aug 2, 2013 1:18 PM, Rodenec Noel rodenecn...@gmail.com wrote:

  c'est une opportunité en plus pour nous les cartographes, je suis de cet
  avis et je suis disponible.
 
 
  Le 2 août 2013 11:45, Kennedy ZoePAM kennedyzoepa...@gmail.com a
 écrit :
 
   J'apprecie l'idée d'elaborer d'atre façon de travailler avec Haiti
   communautaire et je felicite le differentes personnes qui sont de cette
   initiative. Je me tiens volontairement aux activités collaboratives
   découlées de cette perspective. Kennedy.
  
   talk-ht-requ...@openstreetmap.org a écrit :
  
   Envoyez vos messages pour la liste Talk-ht à
  talk-ht@openstreetmap.org
   
   Pour vous (dés)abonner par le web, consultez
  http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ht
   
   ou, par email, envoyez un message avec 'help' dans le corps ou dans le
   sujet à
  talk-ht-requ...@openstreetmap.org
   
   Vous pouvez contacter l'administrateur de la liste à l'adresse
  talk-ht-ow...@openstreetmap.org
   
   Si vous répondez, n'oubliez pas de changer l'objet du message afin
   qu'il soit plus spécifique que Re: Contenu du digest de Talk-ht...
   
   
   Thèmes du jour :
   
  1. Novelle occasion de travailler avec Haiti Communitere
 (ALCE, Samuel Paul)
  2. Re: Novelle occasion de travailler avec Haiti Communitere
 (Jean Bully PROPHETE)
  3. Re: Novelle occasion de travailler avec Haiti Communitere
 (Jojo Marseille)
  4. Re: Novelle occasion de travailler avec Haiti Communitere
 (ALCE, Samuel Paul)
  5. Re: Novelle occasion de travailler avec Haiti Communitere
 (Emmanuel Charles)
   
   
   --
   
   Message: 1
   Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 10:10:51 -0500
   From: ALCE, Samuel Paul alcesamuelp...@gmail.com
   To: cos...@googlegroups.com cos...@googlegroups.com, Talk-HT@OSM
 
  talk-ht@openstreetmap.org,  Delphine Bedu 
   delphine.b...@gmail.com,
  brian.wolf...@hotosm.org brian.wolf...@hotosm.org, Jaakko
  Helleranta. com jaa...@helleranta.com,  Presler jean
  preslerj...@gmail.com, jeanbu...@gmail.com 
   jeanbu...@gmail.com,
  remy schneider derchy...@gmail.com
   Subject: [Talk-ht] Novelle occasion de travailler avec Haiti
  Communitere
   Message-ID:
  CA+W0V6brGCv6fYAGF=
   nrz9xu94hzt1rfm+ahamfzpybbyzg...@mail.gmail.com
   Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
   
   Salut a tous!
   Je vous annonce que Haiti Communitere decide de
   reprendre les liens, decide de refaire la collaboration avec les
 mappers
   Haitiens. Apres une reunion avec Delphine on a discute de tres bons
  moyens
   de rehausser et de vulgariser la cartographie en Haiti. On s'en fou
 des
   differents problemes organisationels des communautes en Haiti, on
 invite
   tout les mappers Haitiens ainsi que les mappers etranges en Haiti a
 nous
   rejoindre sur cet email pour planifier une reunion... C-OSM_HA,
   C-OSM_HA.STM, COSMHANNE, HOT, vous avez votre place. Vous pouvez
 donner
   des
   idees, et meme participer selon votre disponibilite. Repondez a cet
  email
   pour plannifier une petite reunion pour voir comment est ce qu'on peut
   beneficier de cet opportunite.
   
   
   --
   
   Message: 2
   Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 11:21:35 -0700
   From: Jean Bully PROPHETE jeanbu...@gmail.com
   To: ALCE, Samuel Paul alcesamuelp...@gmail.com
   Cc: Presler jean preslerj...@gmail.com, brian.wolf...@hotosm.org
  brian.wolf...@hotosm.org, remy schneider 
 derchy...@gmail.com
  ,
  cos...@googlegroups.com cos...@googlegroups.com, Delphine
  Bedu
  delphine.b...@gmail.com, Talk-HT@OSM 
   talk-ht@openstreetmap.org
   Subject: Re: [Talk-ht] Novelle occasion de travailler avec Haiti
  Communitere
   Message-ID:
  CA+1DG2eSMpOMTGEb=
   nxsyw+vq_h+ejrgrfzcqg3mpwm0tbq...@mail.gmail.com
   Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
   
   Tres bonne nouvelle,
   C'est une excellente initiative,en tant que mappeur et haitien je me
  porte
   volontaire a ce nouveau depart.
   
   
   2013/8/1 ALCE, Samuel Paul alcesamuelp...@gmail.com
   
Salut a tous!
Je vous annonce que Haiti Communitere decide de
reprendre les liens, decide de refaire la

Re: [Talk-ht] Lot Talk-ht, Vol 37, Parution 2

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Bonsoir a tous!
Vous prouvez la vonlote que vous avez de participer
volontairement a l'agrandissement de OSM en Haiti. Je vous remercie tres
chers mappers,et profite de vous inviter (particulierement ceux de
Port-au-Prince) dans la premiere phase du projet volontaire qui consiste a
faire l'inventaire des materiels que HAITI COMMUNITERE a deja en sa
procession. Apres on saura exactement les ressources qu'on a, et planifier
sur comment aborder le grand depart. Merci deja a vous tous.
On Aug 2, 2013 8:08 PM, ALCE, Samuel Paul alcesamuelp...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Bonsoir a tous!
   Vous prouver la vonlote que vous avez pour
 participer volontairement a l'agrandissement de OSM en Haiti. Je vous
 remercie tres chers mappers,et profite de vous inviter (particulierement
 ceux de Port-au-Prince) dans la premiere phase du projet volontaire qui
 consiste a faire l'inventaire des materiels que HAITI COMMUNITERE a deja en
 sa procession. Apres on saura  exactement les ressources qu'on a, et
 planifier sur comment aboder le grand depart. Merci deja a vous tous.
 On Aug 2, 2013 6:12 PM, Alouidor Lesly Louis leslyloui...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Salut , je suis disponible
 On Aug 2, 2013 1:18 PM, Rodenec Noel rodenecn...@gmail.com wrote:

  c'est une opportunité en plus pour nous les cartographes, je suis de cet
  avis et je suis disponible.
 
 
  Le 2 août 2013 11:45, Kennedy ZoePAM kennedyzoepa...@gmail.com a
 écrit :
 
   J'apprecie l'idée d'elaborer d'atre façon de travailler avec Haiti
   communautaire et je felicite le differentes personnes qui sont de
 cette
   initiative. Je me tiens volontairement aux activités collaboratives
   découlées de cette perspective. Kennedy.
  
   talk-ht-requ...@openstreetmap.org a écrit :
  
   Envoyez vos messages pour la liste Talk-ht à
  talk-ht@openstreetmap.org
   
   Pour vous (dés)abonner par le web, consultez
  http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ht
   
   ou, par email, envoyez un message avec 'help' dans le corps ou dans
 le
   sujet à
  talk-ht-requ...@openstreetmap.org
   
   Vous pouvez contacter l'administrateur de la liste à l'adresse
  talk-ht-ow...@openstreetmap.org
   
   Si vous répondez, n'oubliez pas de changer l'objet du message afin
   qu'il soit plus spécifique que Re: Contenu du digest de Talk-ht...
   
   
   Thèmes du jour :
   
  1. Novelle occasion de travailler avec Haiti Communitere
 (ALCE, Samuel Paul)
  2. Re: Novelle occasion de travailler avec Haiti Communitere
 (Jean Bully PROPHETE)
  3. Re: Novelle occasion de travailler avec Haiti Communitere
 (Jojo Marseille)
  4. Re: Novelle occasion de travailler avec Haiti Communitere
 (ALCE, Samuel Paul)
  5. Re: Novelle occasion de travailler avec Haiti Communitere
 (Emmanuel Charles)
   
   
  
 --
   
   Message: 1
   Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 10:10:51 -0500
   From: ALCE, Samuel Paul alcesamuelp...@gmail.com
   To: cos...@googlegroups.com cos...@googlegroups.com,
 Talk-HT@OSM
  talk-ht@openstreetmap.org,  Delphine Bedu 
   delphine.b...@gmail.com,
  brian.wolf...@hotosm.org brian.wolf...@hotosm.org,
 Jaakko
  Helleranta. com jaa...@helleranta.com,  Presler jean
  preslerj...@gmail.com, jeanbu...@gmail.com 
   jeanbu...@gmail.com,
  remy schneider derchy...@gmail.com
   Subject: [Talk-ht] Novelle occasion de travailler avec Haiti
  Communitere
   Message-ID:
  CA+W0V6brGCv6fYAGF=
   nrz9xu94hzt1rfm+ahamfzpybbyzg...@mail.gmail.com
   Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
   
   Salut a tous!
   Je vous annonce que Haiti Communitere decide de
   reprendre les liens, decide de refaire la collaboration avec les
 mappers
   Haitiens. Apres une reunion avec Delphine on a discute de tres bons
  moyens
   de rehausser et de vulgariser la cartographie en Haiti. On s'en fou
 des
   differents problemes organisationels des communautes en Haiti, on
 invite
   tout les mappers Haitiens ainsi que les mappers etranges en Haiti a
 nous
   rejoindre sur cet email pour planifier une reunion... C-OSM_HA,
   C-OSM_HA.STM, COSMHANNE, HOT, vous avez votre place. Vous pouvez
 donner
   des
   idees, et meme participer selon votre disponibilite. Repondez a cet
  email
   pour plannifier une petite reunion pour voir comment est ce qu'on
 peut
   beneficier de cet opportunite.
   
   
   --
   
   Message: 2
   Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 11:21:35 -0700
   From: Jean Bully PROPHETE jeanbu...@gmail.com
   To: ALCE, Samuel Paul alcesamuelp...@gmail.com
   Cc: Presler jean preslerj...@gmail.com, brian.wolf...@hotosm.org
  brian.wolf...@hotosm.org, remy schneider 
 derchy...@gmail.com
  ,
  cos...@googlegroups.com cos...@googlegroups.com, Delphine
  Bedu
  delphine.b...@gmail.com, Talk-HT@OSM 
   talk-ht

Re: [Talk-ht] Novelle occasion de travailler avec Haiti Communitere

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Bienvenue Wendy... et je salut l'effort...
On Aug 2, 2013 9:27 PM, didygro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Salut!
 Je me porte volontaire à participer à cette grande initiative. Je serai
 présent mercredi prochain.

  Wendy
 Envoyé par mon BlackBerry de Digicel

 -Original Message-
 From: ALCE, Samuel Paul alcesamuelp...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 15:20:20
 To: Jojo Marseillejmarseil...@gmail.com
 Cc: Presler jeanpreslerj...@gmail.com; brian.wolf...@hotosm.org
 brian.wolf...@hotosm.org; remy schneiderderchy...@gmail.com;
 cos...@googlegroups.comcos...@googlegroups.com; Delphine Bedu
 delphine.b...@gmail.com; Talk-HT@OSMtalk-ht@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: Re: [Talk-ht] Novelle occasion de travailler avec Haiti
 Communitere

 Je veux encore vous informer qu'apres l'espace de Haiti Communitere qu'on a
 a notre diaponibilite ( specifiquement le lab et la salle de conference)
 nous avons aussi les materiels qui seront aussi disponible. Durant la fin
 de cette semaine ou le commencement de la semaine prochaine nous avons
 besoin de volontaire pour faire l'evaluation des materiels ainsi que
 l'inventaire. Les materiels seront sur notre responsabilite. Donc des
 volontaires??? COSMHA / COSMHANNE/ COSMHA STM/HOT... vous etes tous
 invite...
 On Aug 1, 2013 3:52 PM, Jojo Marseille jmarseil...@gmail.com wrote:

  Nous, membres de la COSMHANNE, sommes disponible pour une telle
  initiative. Déjà, on attend la date de la rencontre.
  Le 1 août 2013 10:11, ALCE, Samuel Paul alcesamuelp...@gmail.com a
  écrit :
  
   Salut a tous!
   Je vous annonce que Haiti Communitere decide de
   reprendre les liens, decide de refaire la collaboration avec les
 mappers
   Haitiens. Apres une reunion avec Delphine on a discute de tres bons
  moyens
   de rehausser et de vulgariser la cartographie en Haiti. On s'en fou des
   differents problemes organisationels des communautes en Haiti, on
 invite
   tout les mappers Haitiens ainsi que les mappers etranges en Haiti a
 nous
   rejoindre sur cet email pour planifier une reunion... C-OSM_HA,
   C-OSM_HA.STM, COSMHANNE, HOT, vous avez votre place. Vous pouvez donner
  des
   idees, et meme participer selon votre disponibilite. Repondez a cet
 email
   pour plannifier une petite reunion pour voir comment est ce qu'on peut
   beneficier de cet opportunite.
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[Talk-ht] Novelle occasion de travailler avec Haiti Communitere

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Salut a tous!
Je vous annonce que Haiti Communitere decide de
reprendre les liens, decide de refaire la collaboration avec les mappers
Haitiens. Apres une reunion avec Delphine on a discute de tres bons moyens
de rehausser et de vulgariser la cartographie en Haiti. On s'en fou des
differents problemes organisationels des communautes en Haiti, on invite
tout les mappers Haitiens ainsi que les mappers etranges en Haiti a nous
rejoindre sur cet email pour planifier une reunion... C-OSM_HA,
C-OSM_HA.STM, COSMHANNE, HOT, vous avez votre place. Vous pouvez donner des
idees, et meme participer selon votre disponibilite. Repondez a cet email
pour plannifier une petite reunion pour voir comment est ce qu'on peut
beneficier de cet opportunite.
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[Talk-ht] Redynamiser COSMHA

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Salut Jaqueson,
  Bien sure que moi personnellement je veux etre
impliquer, bien sure que je veux jouer mon role au sein de COSMHA, mais pas
dans le COSMHA qui pense organiser le mapping party politique
d'aujourd'hui. Si le comite en place (si il y a vraiment un comite) veut
redynamiser COSMHA il faut essayer d'identifier d'abord ce qui avait cause
le probleme au sein de l'equipe. Il faut chercher a resoudre ces problemes,
mais pas essayer de creer d'autres choses sans toucher la plaie. Est ce
vraiment un mapping party peut redynamiser COSMHA? Pourquoi ne faites vous
pas messieurs exactement ce qu'il faut faire, pour vraiment redymamiser ce
COSMHA? Comment est ce que 3 personnes qui ne sont pas a jour peuvent
diriger, gerer un mapping party? Jaqueson merci pour tes conseils mais tant
que vous les actuels processeurs de COSMHA n'acceptent pas de faire ce
qu'il faut vraiment faire tant que moi je denoncerai toutes les mauvaises
choses pour son avancement... encore une fois je ne suis pas contre
l'avancement mais je ne resterai jamais sans vous denoncer. Succes dans le
mapping party d'aujourd'hui, quand meme des personnes innactives depuis 2
ans vont pouvoir encore une fois ajouter un point au moins sur la base de
donnee OSM.
On Jul 20, 2013 8:06 AM, Jacqueson Michel micheljacqueson...@gmail.com
wrote:
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Re: [Talk-ht] Redynamiser la Communauté Open Street Map Haiti

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Salut,
 Je ne sais pas exactement pourquoi vous parlez de redynamiser
parce que deja dans votre programme de journee vous  prouvez que COSMHA est
encore entre les mains d'un petit groupe. Comment redymamiser un groupe
ferme specifiquement a vous messieurs? J'ai beaucoup d'experience avec des
membres de COSMHA durant ces deux dernieres annees. Des membres qui sont
capables, talentieux et pourquoi ils ne sont pas dans la programmation?
Franchement ils sont plus a jour que vous, ils peuvent mieux organiser un
mapping party que vous les gars... Un conseil: Si vous pensez vraiment a
redynamiser COSMHA il faut penser d'abord a chercher les bons, les
talentieux, les chanceux techniciens que vous avez rejettez messieurs les
noyaux durs. Je ne serai jamais present dans un programme COSMHA une fois
que d'abord la communaute n'est pas descentrer, une fois que vous
n'accepterez pas qu'il y a des bons autre que vous, une fois que vous
n'avez pas de structure, une fois que la mauvaise politique que vous faites
au sein de COSMHA ne soit pas claire!!! Dans une communaute dynamique il y
a les personnes qu'il faut a la place qu'il faut. Franchement il n'y a que
les memes choses que vous aviez reproche a Guens qui se repetent. Des
marrionnettes jerer par une personne. Mais messieurs soyez grand! Soyez
vraiment des personnes qui veulent faires de l'OSM et non des personnes qui
prennent des avantages sur le travail des vrais volontaires OSM en Haiti.
On Jul 8, 2013 4:54 PM, Jean Presler preslerj...@gmail.com wrote:

 Salut a vous tous,
 Maintenant il est grand temps pour nous de redynamiser la communauté Open
 Street Map en Haiti.
 Nous avons vu grâce a certaines présentations à la conférence State Of the
 Map  de San Francisco  la grandeur d'OSM dans les autres communautés par
 ses activités, ses dynamismes,ses réalisations et autres.
 Nous dévons rapidement d'ôter  la communauté Open Street Map Haiti
 (COSMHA)  que nous avons depuis 2010 plus précisement aprés le seisme du 12
 janvier en Haiti une autre visage dans le monde cartographique.
 Sur ce,  nous vous invitons tous les mappeurs d'Haiti et d'étranger de
 venir participer a une demie journéee de réflexion et de mapping qui se
 tiendra le samedi 20 juillet 2013 à 9hr AM au  village de la Renaissance,
 sise a Zoranjer.
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=18.632422lon=-72.319313zoom=18layers=M

 Qui a pour Théme :   *Mappeur d'Haiti, contribuons nous pour réaliser
 une jolie carte D'Haiti* ''.

 Dans cette journée nous aurons

  Présentateur  * Michel Ange Compère*
 Propos de Bienvenue  *Duperval Jean Dany  *-De 9
 hr_9hr10 AM
 Discour et présentation du fiche d'activité *Presler Jean
 ---*9hr 10 AM 10*_* 9hr45Am
 Pause---9hr45AM_10
 hr AM
 Commentaire et suggestion du
 publique-10hr Am_11hr AM
 Mapping du village de la
 renaissance--11 hr AM_1hr PM

 Nous demandons a tous ceux qui ont des matériels (GPS, Laptop,Camera et
 autres) de COSMHA entre leurs mains de nous les apporter SVP.
 Nous vous prions de Contacter l'un des membres du comité COSMHA qui habite
 plus près de chez vous.

 Cordialement Presler Jean

 *English*


 Hi to you all,
 Now it is time for us to revitalize the community Open Street Map in
 Haiti.
 We have seen thanks to some conference presentations State Of the Map of
 San Francisco across the OSM in other communities through its activities,
 dynamics, and other achievements.
 We need to quickly remove the Haiti community Open Street Map (COSMHA) we more
 precisely since 2010 after the earthquake in Haiti on 12 January another face
 in the world map.
 With that, we invite you all mappers Haiti and abroad to come and participate
 in a half journéee reflection and mapping to be held Saturday, July 20,
 2013 at 9hrs AM at Renaissance Village, located in Zoranjer.
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=18.632422lon=-72.319313zoom=18layers=M

 Whose Theme: Haiti Mapper, helping us to make a nice Map of Haiti.''

 In this day we

 Presenter *Michel Angele Compere
 *Welcome *Duperval Jean Dany* - From 9 AM hr_9hr10
 Speech and presentation of the activity sheet *Presler Jean*
 --- 9hrs 10 AM 10_ 9hr45Am
 hr AM
 Comments and suggestions from public
 - 10hr Am_11hr AM
 Mapping the village  Renaissance
  -- 11 hr AM_1hr PM

 We ask all those who have equipment (GPS, Laptop, Camera and others)
 COSMHA their hands to please bring us.
 Please contact one of the members of the committee who lives COSMHA
 nearest you

 Sincerly,  Presler jean






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Re: [Talk-ht] Redynamiser la Communauté Open Street Map Haiti

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Salut,
 Je ne sais pas exactement pourquoi vous parlez de redynamiser
parce que deja dans votre programme de journee prouve que COSMHA est encore
entre les mains d'un petit groupe. Comment redymamiser un groupe ferme
specifiquement a vous messieurs? J'ai beaucoup d'experience avec des
membres de COSMHA durant ces deux dernieres annees. Des membrea qui sony
capables, talentieux et pourquoi ils ne sont pas dans la programmation?
Franchement ils sont plus a jour, ils peuvent mieux organiser un mapping
party que vous les gars... Un conseil: Si vous pensez vraiment a
redynamiser COSMHA il faut penser d'abord a chercher les bons, les
talentieux, les chamceux techniciens que vous avez rejettez. Je ne serai
jamais present dans un programme COSMHA une fois que d'abord la communaute
n'est pas descentrer, une fois que vous n'accepterez pas qu'il y a des bons
autre que vous, une fois que vous n'avez pas.de structure, une fois que la
mauvaise politique que vous faites au sein de COSMHA ne soit pas claire!!!
Franchement il n'y a que les memes choses que vous aviez reproche a Guens
qui se repetent. Des marrionnettes jerer par notre tres
On Jul 8, 2013 4:54 PM, Jean Presler preslerj...@gmail.com wrote:

 Salut a vous tous,
 Maintenant il est grand temps pour nous de redynamiser la communauté Open
 Street Map en Haiti.
 Nous avons vu grâce a certaines présentations à la conférence State Of the
 Map  de San Francisco  la grandeur d'OSM dans les autres communautés par
 ses activités, ses dynamismes,ses réalisations et autres.
 Nous dévons rapidement d'ôter  la communauté Open Street Map Haiti
 (COSMHA)  que nous avons depuis 2010 plus précisement aprés le seisme du 12
 janvier en Haiti une autre visage dans le monde cartographique.
 Sur ce,  nous vous invitons tous les mappeurs d'Haiti et d'étranger de
 venir participer a une demie journéee de réflexion et de mapping qui se
 tiendra le samedi 20 juillet 2013 à 9hr AM au  village de la Renaissance,
 sise a Zoranjer.
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=18.632422lon=-72.319313zoom=18layers=M

 Qui a pour Théme :   *Mappeur d'Haiti, contribuons nous pour réaliser
 une jolie carte D'Haiti* ''.

 Dans cette journée nous aurons

  Présentateur  * Michel Ange Compère*
 Propos de Bienvenue  *Duperval Jean Dany  *-De 9
 hr_9hr10 AM
 Discour et présentation du fiche d'activité *Presler Jean
 ---*9hr 10 AM 10*_* 9hr45Am
 Pause---9hr45AM_10
 hr AM
 Commentaire et suggestion du
 publique-10hr Am_11hr AM
 Mapping du village de la
 renaissance--11 hr AM_1hr PM

 Nous demandons a tous ceux qui ont des matériels (GPS, Laptop,Camera et
 autres) de COSMHA entre leurs mains de nous les apporter SVP.
 Nous vous prions de Contacter l'un des membres du comité COSMHA qui habite
 plus près de chez vous.

 Cordialement Presler Jean

 *English*


 Hi to you all,
 Now it is time for us to revitalize the community Open Street Map in
 Haiti.
 We have seen thanks to some conference presentations State Of the Map of
 San Francisco across the OSM in other communities through its activities,
 dynamics, and other achievements.
 We need to quickly remove the Haiti community Open Street Map (COSMHA) we more
 precisely since 2010 after the earthquake in Haiti on 12 January another face
 in the world map.
 With that, we invite you all mappers Haiti and abroad to come and participate
 in a half journéee reflection and mapping to be held Saturday, July 20,
 2013 at 9hrs AM at Renaissance Village, located in Zoranjer.
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=18.632422lon=-72.319313zoom=18layers=M

 Whose Theme: Haiti Mapper, helping us to make a nice Map of Haiti.''

 In this day we

 Presenter *Michel Angele Compere
 *Welcome *Duperval Jean Dany* - From 9 AM hr_9hr10
 Speech and presentation of the activity sheet *Presler Jean*
 --- 9hrs 10 AM 10_ 9hr45Am
 hr AM
 Comments and suggestions from public
 - 10hr Am_11hr AM
 Mapping the village  Renaissance
  -- 11 hr AM_1hr PM

 We ask all those who have equipment (GPS, Laptop, Camera and others)
 COSMHA their hands to please bring us.
 Please contact one of the members of the committee who lives COSMHA
 nearest you

 Sincerly,  Presler jean






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 Groupes COSMHA.
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[Talk-ht] La bonne version: Redynamiser....

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

-- Forwarded message --
From: ALCE, Samuel Paul alcesamuelp...@gmail.com
Date: Jul 18, 2013 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: Redynamiser la Communauté Open Street Map Haiti
To: cos...@googlegroups.com
Cc: talk-ht talk-ht@openstreetmap.org

Salut,
 Je ne sais pas exactement pourquoi vous parlez de redynamiser
parce que deja dans votre programme de journee vous  prouvez que COSMHA est
encore entre les mains d'un petit groupe. Comment redymamiser un groupe
ferme specifiquement a vous messieurs? J'ai beaucoup d'experience avec des
membres de COSMHA durant ces deux dernieres annees. Des membres qui sont
capables, talentieux et pourquoi ils ne sont pas dans la programmation?
Franchement ils sont plus a jour que vous, ils peuvent mieux organiser un
mapping party que vous les gars... Un conseil: Si vous pensez vraiment a
redynamiser COSMHA il faut penser d'abord a chercher les bons, les
talentieux, les chanceux techniciens que vous avez rejettez messieurs les
noyaux durs. Je ne serai jamais present dans un programme COSMHA une fois
que d'abord la communaute n'est pas descentrer, une fois que vous
n'accepterez pas qu'il y a des bons autre que vous, une fois que vous
n'avez pas de structure, une fois que la mauvaise politique que vous faites
au sein de COSMHA ne soit pas claire!!! Dans une communaute dynamique il y
a les personnes qu'il faut a la place qu'il faut. Franchement il n'y a que
les memes choses que vous aviez reproche a Guens qui se repetent. Des
marrionnettes jerer par une personne. Mais messieurs soyez grand! Soyez
vraiment des personnes qui veulent faires de l'OSM et non des personnes qui
prennent des avantages sur le travail des vrais volontaires OSM en Haiti.
On Jul 8, 2013 4:54 PM, Jean Presler preslerj...@gmail.com wrote:

 Salut a vous tous,
 Maintenant il est grand temps pour nous de redynamiser la communauté Open
 Street Map en Haiti.
 Nous avons vu grâce a certaines présentations à la conférence State Of the
 Map  de San Francisco  la grandeur d'OSM dans les autres communautés par
 ses activités, ses dynamismes,ses réalisations et autres.
 Nous dévons rapidement d'ôter  la communauté Open Street Map Haiti
 (COSMHA)  que nous avons depuis 2010 plus précisement aprés le seisme du 12
 janvier en Haiti une autre visage dans le monde cartographique.
 Sur ce,  nous vous invitons tous les mappeurs d'Haiti et d'étranger de
 venir participer a une demie journéee de réflexion et de mapping qui se
 tiendra le samedi 20 juillet 2013 à 9hr AM au  village de la Renaissance,
 sise a Zoranjer.
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=18.632422lon=-72.319313zoom=18layers=M

 Qui a pour Théme :   *Mappeur d'Haiti, contribuons nous pour réaliser
 une jolie carte D'Haiti* ''.

 Dans cette journée nous aurons

  Présentateur  * Michel Ange Compère*
 Propos de Bienvenue  *Duperval Jean Dany  *-De 9
 hr_9hr10 AM
 Discour et présentation du fiche d'activité *Presler Jean
 ---*9hr 10 AM 10*_* 9hr45Am
 Pause---9hr45AM_10
 hr AM
 Commentaire et suggestion du
 publique-10hr Am_11hr AM
 Mapping du village de la
 renaissance--11 hr AM_1hr PM

 Nous demandons a tous ceux qui ont des matériels (GPS, Laptop,Camera et
 autres) de COSMHA entre leurs mains de nous les apporter SVP.
 Nous vous prions de Contacter l'un des membres du comité COSMHA qui habite
 plus près de chez vous.

 Cordialement Presler Jean

 *English*


 Hi to you all,
 Now it is time for us to revitalize the community Open Street Map in
 Haiti.
 We have seen thanks to some conference presentations State Of the Map of
 San Francisco across the OSM in other communities through its activities,
 dynamics, and other achievements.
 We need to quickly remove the Haiti community Open Street Map (COSMHA) we more
 precisely since 2010 after the earthquake in Haiti on 12 January another face
 in the world map.
 With that, we invite you all mappers Haiti and abroad to come and participate
 in a half journéee reflection and mapping to be held Saturday, July 20,
 2013 at 9hrs AM at Renaissance Village, located in Zoranjer.
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=18.632422lon=-72.319313zoom=18layers=M

 Whose Theme: Haiti Mapper, helping us to make a nice Map of Haiti.''

 In this day we

 Presenter *Michel Angele Compere
 *Welcome *Duperval Jean Dany* - From 9 AM hr_9hr10
 Speech and presentation of the activity sheet *Presler Jean*
 --- 9hrs 10 AM 10_ 9hr45Am
 hr AM
 Comments and suggestions from public
 - 10hr Am_11hr AM
 Mapping the village  Renaissance
  -- 11 hr AM_1hr PM

 We ask all those who have equipment (GPS, Laptop, Camera and others)
 COSMHA their hands to please bring us.
 Please contact one of the members

Re: [Talk-ht] La bonne version: Redynamiser....

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Je veux aussi que vous sachiez que je ne suis pas contre COSMHA, mais je
suis pour une bonne REDYNAMISATION, je suis pour un bon LANCEMENT. Evitez
de dire que je suis contre, mais aussi il faut penser a mes conseilles et
mes critiques. Merci
On Jul 18, 2013 4:19 PM, ALCE, Samuel Paul alcesamuelp...@gmail.com
wrote:

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: ALCE, Samuel Paul alcesamuelp...@gmail.com
 Date: Jul 18, 2013 4:10 PM
 Subject: Re: Redynamiser la Communauté Open Street Map Haiti
 To: cos...@googlegroups.com
 Cc: talk-ht talk-ht@openstreetmap.org

 Salut,
  Je ne sais pas exactement pourquoi vous parlez de redynamiser
 parce que deja dans votre programme de journee vous  prouvez que COSMHA est
 encore entre les mains d'un petit groupe. Comment redymamiser un groupe
 ferme specifiquement a vous messieurs? J'ai beaucoup d'experience avec des
 membres de COSMHA durant ces deux dernieres annees. Des membres qui sont
 capables, talentieux et pourquoi ils ne sont pas dans la programmation?
 Franchement ils sont plus a jour que vous, ils peuvent mieux organiser un
 mapping party que vous les gars... Un conseil: Si vous pensez vraiment a
 redynamiser COSMHA il faut penser d'abord a chercher les bons, les
 talentieux, les chanceux techniciens que vous avez rejettez messieurs les
 noyaux durs. Je ne serai jamais present dans un programme COSMHA une fois
 que d'abord la communaute n'est pas descentrer, une fois que vous
 n'accepterez pas qu'il y a des bons autre que vous, une fois que vous
 n'avez pas de structure, une fois que la mauvaise politique que vous faites
 au sein de COSMHA ne soit pas claire!!! Dans une communaute dynamique il y
 a les personnes qu'il faut a la place qu'il faut. Franchement il n'y a que
 les memes choses que vous aviez reproche a Guens qui se repetent. Des
 marrionnettes jerer par une personne. Mais messieurs soyez grand! Soyez
 vraiment des personnes qui veulent faires de l'OSM et non des personnes qui
 prennent des avantages sur le travail des vrais volontaires OSM en Haiti.
  On Jul 8, 2013 4:54 PM, Jean Presler preslerj...@gmail.com wrote:

 Salut a vous tous,
 Maintenant il est grand temps pour nous de redynamiser la communauté Open
 Street Map en Haiti.
 Nous avons vu grâce a certaines présentations à la conférence State Of
 the Map  de San Francisco  la grandeur d'OSM dans les autres communautés
 par ses activités, ses dynamismes,ses réalisations et autres.
 Nous dévons rapidement d'ôter  la communauté Open Street Map Haiti
 (COSMHA)  que nous avons depuis 2010 plus précisement aprés le seisme du 12
 janvier en Haiti une autre visage dans le monde cartographique.
 Sur ce,  nous vous invitons tous les mappeurs d'Haiti et d'étranger de
 venir participer a une demie journéee de réflexion et de mapping qui se
 tiendra le samedi 20 juillet 2013 à 9hr AM au  village de la Renaissance,
 sise a Zoranjer.
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=18.632422lon=-72.319313zoom=18layers=M

 Qui a pour Théme :   *Mappeur d'Haiti, contribuons nous pour réaliser
 une jolie carte D'Haiti* ''.

 Dans cette journée nous aurons

  Présentateur  * Michel Ange Compère*
 Propos de Bienvenue  *Duperval Jean Dany  *-De 9
 hr_9hr10 AM
 Discour et présentation du fiche d'activité *Presler Jean
 ---*9hr 10 AM 10*_* 9hr45Am
 Pause---9hr45AM_10
 hr AM
 Commentaire et suggestion du
 publique-10hr Am_11hr AM
 Mapping du village de la
 renaissance--11 hr AM_1hr PM

 Nous demandons a tous ceux qui ont des matériels (GPS, Laptop,Camera et
 autres) de COSMHA entre leurs mains de nous les apporter SVP.
 Nous vous prions de Contacter l'un des membres du comité COSMHA qui
 habite plus près de chez vous.

 Cordialement Presler Jean

 *English*


 Hi to you all,
 Now it is time for us to revitalize the community Open Street Map in
 Haiti.
 We have seen thanks to some conference presentations State Of the Map of
 San Francisco across the OSM in other communities through its activities,
 dynamics, and other achievements.
 We need to quickly remove the Haiti community Open Street Map (COSMHA) we 
 more
 precisely since 2010 after the earthquake in Haiti on 12 January another face
 in the world map.
 With that, we invite you all mappers Haiti and abroad to come and participate
 in a half journéee reflection and mapping to be held Saturday, July 20,
 2013 at 9hrs AM at Renaissance Village, located in Zoranjer.
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=18.632422lon=-72.319313zoom=18layers=M

 Whose Theme: Haiti Mapper, helping us to make a nice Map of Haiti.''

 In this day we

 Presenter *Michel Angele Compere
 *Welcome *Duperval Jean Dany* - From 9 AM
 hr_9hr10
 Speech and presentation of the activity sheet *Presler Jean*
 --- 9hrs 10 AM 10_ 9hr45Am
 hr AM

Re: [Talk-br] Encontro de mapeadores em BH

[Samuel Vale]

Em Ter, 2013-07-16 às 14:24 -0300, Vítor Rodrigo Dias escreveu:
 Pessoal,
 
 
 O usuário nesol vai estar em Belo Horizonte em breve e sugeriu um
 encontro de mapeadores OSM. A data sugerida é 13 de agosto.
 
 
 Alguém mais aqui de BH topa esse encontro?

Opa, eu topo! Não há possibilidade de transferir para um sábado?

Até,
-- 
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Re: [Talk-br] Encontro em Porto Alegre

[Samuel Vale]

Em Qua, 2013-07-03 às 09:54 -0300, Samuel Vale escreveu:
 Em Qui, 2013-06-27 às 16:24 -0300, wille escreveu:
  Olá,
  
  Na próxima semana vai acontecer o FISL 14 em Porto Alegre. Samuel Vale 
  vai dar uma palestra no dia 04: 
  http://fisl.org.br/14/papers_ng/activity/view?activity_id=383
  
  Eu ainda dependo de um detalhe para participar do FISL, mas tudo indica 
  que estarei lá.
  
  Acho que seria uma boa oportunidade de organizarmos uma Mapping Party 
  para estimular o surgimento de novos colaboradores ou pelo menos um 
  encontro informal entre mapeadores.
  
  O que acham? Alguém que mora em PoA se anima?
  
  Abraços,
 
 Oi pessoal,
 
 Obrigado pela divulgação Wille :). Quem vai conduzir a atividade mesmo
 será o Frederico Goncalves Guimaraes freder...@teia.bio.br. Devido a
 um problema pessoal não poderei ir ao FISL este ano (infelizmente,
 estava até com passagens na mão :(). A atividade foi incluída da Grupo
 de Educação, então provavelmente muitos professores e profissionais da
 área participarão. Os colegas mapeadores que estiverem por lá estão
 convidados a aparecerem, sugiro até que entrem em contato com o Fred.
 Tivemos um pequeno encontro de última hora no FISL de 2010 e foi muito
 bom, com a presença de 5 contribuidores (ao menos).
 
 Abraço,

Opa,

Streaming da apresentação AGORA (04/07, 16:15h):

http://hemingway.softwarelivre.org:8000/sala41d.ogg

Abraço,
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Re: [Talk-br] Encontro em Porto Alegre

[Samuel Vale]

Em Qui, 2013-06-27 às 16:24 -0300, wille escreveu:
 Olá,
 
 Na próxima semana vai acontecer o FISL 14 em Porto Alegre. Samuel Vale 
 vai dar uma palestra no dia 04: 
 http://fisl.org.br/14/papers_ng/activity/view?activity_id=383
 
 Eu ainda dependo de um detalhe para participar do FISL, mas tudo indica 
 que estarei lá.
 
 Acho que seria uma boa oportunidade de organizarmos uma Mapping Party 
 para estimular o surgimento de novos colaboradores ou pelo menos um 
 encontro informal entre mapeadores.
 
 O que acham? Alguém que mora em PoA se anima?
 
 Abraços,

Oi pessoal,

Obrigado pela divulgação Wille :). Quem vai conduzir a atividade mesmo
será o Frederico Goncalves Guimaraes freder...@teia.bio.br. Devido a
um problema pessoal não poderei ir ao FISL este ano (infelizmente,
estava até com passagens na mão :(). A atividade foi incluída da Grupo
de Educação, então provavelmente muitos professores e profissionais da
área participarão. Os colegas mapeadores que estiverem por lá estão
convidados a aparecerem, sugiro até que entrem em contato com o Fred.
Tivemos um pequeno encontro de última hora no FISL de 2010 e foi muito
bom, com a presença de 5 contribuidores (ao menos).

Abraço,
-- 
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Re: [Talk-ht] une explication

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Salut,
 Vous pouvez vous referer a cette page.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Tag:power%3Dpole. Je ne sais pas si
j'ai vraiment raison. On attend d'autre suggestion.


Le 15 mai 2013 19:53, Rodenec Noel rodenecn...@gmail.com a écrit :

 mes amis cartographe je vous salue cordialement.

 j'aimerais savoir comment taguer un poteau électrique triphasé
 et une mise a jour sur la géolocalisation.

 merci pour votre collaboration.
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Re: [Talk-ht] Lot Talk-ht, Vol 34, Parution 14

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Nap pale de sa demen! mais aussi je veux te rappeller que cet email est
reserve a des question qui sur la cartographie en Haiti et ailleurs. mon
email perso est alcesamuelp...@gmail.com


Le 15 mai 2013 21:05, dielinx04 dielin...@gmail.com a écrit :

  Samuel, se kile pou mwen vini ak moto a?


 Le 14 mai 2013 14:23, Schneider kennedy Alcereste 
 kennedyzoepa...@gmail.com
  a écrit :

  Welcom to all new mappers!!!
 
 
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   Bienvenue a tous les nouveaux 
  
  
   
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   Bienvenue
  
  
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Bienvenue sur talk
   
   
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Re: [Talk-ht] Mapping party Saint Raphael

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Comment ne pas etre volontaire a aider a l'une dew ville de mon pays
Haiti!!! Fred je suis dispose et disponible. So lets plan it better
tonight
On Apr 29, 2013 11:31 AM, Jean Bully PROPHETE jeanbu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Je  me porte volontaire a ce mapping party pour ce Samedi, c'est d'abord la
 ville natale de mes parents de plus j'ai été le premier a cartographier
 cette ville.
   J'apporterai tout mon soutient possible pour faire de ce mapping
 party une réussite.


 2013/4/28 Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr

  Si vous prévoyez de faire le carto-party la semaine prochaine, Pierzen
  pourra être présent dimanche le 5 plutôt que samedi 4,
 
  Pierre
 
 
 
  
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  Envoyé le : Samedi 27 avril 2013 13h39
  Objet : Re: [Talk-ht] Mapping party Saint Raphael
  
  
  Re-Bonjour,
  
  Voici le contact du Maire de Saint Raphael,
  
  Si vous voulez organiser une mapping party, veuillez vous organiser,
  Demander aussi a Mario (Big Boy), si il se sent de faire voler le UAV,
  durant cette journee
  
  
  picho...@yahoo.fr mailto:picho...@yahoo.fr M.Antoine 3627 6200
  
  Voici les objets princinpaux a collecter,
  
  A+ fred
  
  
  
  Église
  
  Infrastructure/structure importante
  
  Établissement public
  
  Éducation
  
  Hopital/Centre de santé/Clinique, Pharmacie
  
  
  Site, Militaire, police
  
  Eau de surface, lac, rivière, ravine
  
  Zone humide
  
  Puits
  
  Place publique
  
  
  
  Route principale
  
  État des routes
  
  ligne électrique
  
  station ou point de pompage d'eau
  
  Réservoir d'eau/citerne
  
  Source
  
  Points d'intérêt
  
  Site historique
  
  marché public
  
  boutique
  
  hotel
  
  bar et restaurant
  
  ateliers, manufactures
  
  Boulangeries
  
  
  Station Radio
  
  Salle paroissiale
  
  
  
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[Talk-ca] Routing tool for openstreetmap.ca?

[Samuel Longiaru]

Another big thanks here to those involved in setting this up!  I do
have a suggestion for the site.  Perhaps it is already implemented
elsewhere, in which case maybe all I need is to be reminded of its
location so I can update my bookmarks.

I think it would be great to have access to a routing engine using as
current a Canadian data extract as possible... like daily or even more
recent. I seem to remember that a year or so ago, we had access to one
that was ostensibly for Europe only, but which did include fairly recent
Canadian data. I remember using it while doing some CanVec imports.
Darned if I can find it now. It really was a great help. I remember
that in my case, it highlighted the need for special access= tagging of
emergency-only crossovers on divided highways.

I've found a few sites that route off of OSM data, but the data are not
always current as far as I can tell... and while being a separate issue,
the routing plugin on JOSM hasn't worked for me for many months now.  

Anyway, like I said, if there is an existing tool, please let me know.
Otherwise, I think one based on up-to-date Canadian data would be a big
help not only for mapping, but provide a great public service as well.

Thanks,

Samuel Longiaru
Kamloops, BC

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Re: [Talk-ca] Routing tool for openstreetmap.ca?

[Samuel Longiaru]

- Original Message -
From: Richard Weait rich...@weait.com
To: Simon Wood si...@mungewell.org
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Sent: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:14:42 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Routing tool for openstreetmap.ca?

On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 1:51 PM, si...@mungewell.org wrote:


 
  http://map.project-osrm.org/
 
  For Canadian data and the rest of the world.  Updates the data twice a
  day, as I understand it.

 So is there a way to 'teach' that better routes?

 Blairmore to Calgary was routed through Fort McLeod (257km)... when the
 faster/shorted route is via Highway 22 and 533 across to Nanton (217km).

 It might say something about my driving, but that would take a little over
 2hrs rather than suggested 3hr4. Yes, I average more that 70km/hr...


I'm not familiar with either route, or with your driving style.  :-)

Routers using OSM data will make assumptions where speed limit data in not
available so you might be running into issues where the assumptions don't
match your driving experience on the ground.

In past, I've found that there are connectivity problems in the OSM data,
when routers make suggestions taht I wouldn't expect.  In fact, that was
one of the things we were using the test instance of OSRM for; finding
discontinuities, bad one-ways, and other tagging / mapping errors.

Richard,



Thanks for the link to the OSRM site, but I don't think that was it.
I'm familiar with that project and recently have been following the dev
list.  At least as the demo site stands, it does give crazy routings
for the area of South Australia where I am right now. And while it may
be related to speed limit tags, it's not for the lack of them, but
because they exist. The unpaved roads here have been correctly tagged
with max_speed=100.  While that is the statutory limit for unsigned
rural roads in South Australia, it is not reasonable in practice.  When
OSRM sees that, it coughs up routes that suggest one exit reasonably
good motorways and jump onto unpaved roads. Here's a good example:
http://osrm.at/2Vl When routing from Adelaide to the Roseworthy
Campus, OSRM routes one off the M20 and onto unpaved roads when 
staying on the M20 for one more exit, then exiting to Redbanks Road is
the much more logical choice.

The fact that OSRM updates data twice a day is encouraging. I didn't
see that anywhere.  But I've found that the Gosmore engine, at least
as implemented by http://yournavigation.org makes more
reasonable assumptions and so comes up with more logical routes. The
problem there, however is that yournavigation appears to be using
worldwide data over 2 months old.

And hence my suggestion for an implementation of a routing feature
that uses reasonable assumptions (or as best as we can agree to)
and utilizing the latest Canadian data possible. It could be based on 
either the OSRM engine or the Gosmore engine I would imagine. 

It seems to me that the OSRM routing could benefit greatly by a 0.6 penalty for
unpaved roads as had been suggested a few time before, but they don't seem to
want to go that way.  

Thanks,

Sam



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Re: [Talk-ca] Routing tool for openstreetmap.ca?

[Samuel Longiaru]

- James Ewen ve6...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Samuel Longiaru longi...@shaw.ca wrote:
 
  It seems to me that the OSRM routing could benefit greatly by a 0.6 penalty 
  for
  unpaved roads as had been suggested a few time before, but they don't seem 
  to
  want to go that way.
 
 Why incur a penalty just because the roadway is unpaved? A better
 solution would be to have the ability to request paved roads only when
 routing. That way the user could decide whether an unpaved roadway
 should be selected or not. I suppose the best solution would be to
 allow the user to select whether unpaved roads can be used for
 routing, and also allow the user to select the penalty to apply for
 unpaved.
 
 I fight with my GPS all the time. I tell it to never use unpaved
 roads, but it will put me onto them quite often. Then on the other
 hand it can try and send me on long detours some times when I know I
 want to take that 2 mile shortcut on gravel to save 40 miles on
 pavement.
 
 It's pretty tough to teach a computer to be as wishy-washy as a human!
 
 -- 
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Paved roads only option? Yes, that's one way. Essentially giving unpaved roads 
a penalty value (factor) of 0. Then unpaved roads wouldn't be routed on. But 
consider the case where you are on an unpaved road and wish to route somewhere 
using the 'avoid unpaved roads' option.  It would seem to me that in that case, 
the engine will need to assess a reasonable penalty for unpaved roads and 
minimize that penalty by getting you to paved roads by the quickest or shortest 
means.  So either way you stack it, at some point, you need to assign a 
penalty.  Right now, on the OSRM site, you can neither assign a penalty nor 
elect a paved-roads only option. All roads are reated equally. The 
yournavigation site must be doing something different, as it yields different 
(and more logical) results.

I'd love to see a routing engine with a desireability factor that could be 
adjustable.  If you really loathe unpaved roads, you could set the unpaved 
roads desirability factor low (i.e., apply a greater penalty for unpaved 
roads).  And if you don't really care all that much whether you take paved or 
unpaved, then set the factor high. If your GPS had that, then maybe you 
wouldn't be fighting with it so much. :) 

Sam


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Re: [Talk-ht] Rankont!!!

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

English version after:

Bonjou tout moun!
Mwen sezi anpil poum wè kijan nouvo COSMHA ap devlope. Avèk
anpil sajès mwen te mande Komite aktyèl la yon reyinyon jodia a 9h nan
Haiti Communitere men li gentan 11h30 (sa fè deja 2h30 minit depi map
tann). Mwen vle fè nou konnen ke pa gen anyen ki fèt pèsonèl, tout sa ki
fèt ak lide pèsonèl plis sujè detwi ke konstwi. Yon lòt fwa anko mwen vle
fè nou sonje ke ansyen komite a te gen menm reyaksyon sa yo e nou tout te
leve kont li. Atansyon pou baton ki te bat chen nwa pa vire kont chen
blan...


Greetings everyone!
  I am astonished to see how the new COSMHA is developing. With
wisdom I asked the current Committee meeting today at 9h in Haiti
Communitere but already 11h30 (2:30 minutes since I expected.) I remind you
that nothing makes personal way, everything is done personally is subject
to failure, everything we do with a personal idea is about to destroy than
to build.Once again I remind you that the former committee had this same
reaction and you were all against. Warning! to staff that beat black dog by
turning against white dog ...


2013/2/8 ALCE, Samuel Paul alcesamuelp...@gmail.com



 -- Forwarded message --
 From: ALCE, Samuel Paul alcesamuelp...@gmail.com
 Date: 2013/2/8
 Subject: Rankot!!!
 To: cos...@googlegroups.com, Talk-HT@OSM talk-ht@openstreetmap.org
 Cc: Jeandany Duperval jduperval...@gmail.com, Jean Presler 
 preslerj...@gmail.com, Louino Robllard robillard.lou...@gmail.com,
 Judith Cerisier ceji...@gmail.com


 Bonjou tout moun,
 Nan lide pou nou konprann pi byen kisa nouvo
 komite ki nan tèt Cosmha ap fè, nan lide pou tout moun ka enfòme de kisa
 kap fèt nan moman sa anndan kominote a, mwen menm pèsonèlman antan ke moun
 kap lite anndan kominote sa depi 2 zan, mwen gen tout dwa poum ta mande
 komite a ak tout moun ki enterese pou nou ta fè yo ti chita pale jou madi
 kap 12 la nan Ayiti kominotè a 10 zè nan maten.  Nan reyinyon sa komite a
 ap gen poul di kisa ki ap fèt kounyea ak ki plan li genyen pou jou kap vini
 yo.

Mwen rete kwè ke reyinyon nou yo ap sispann fèt
 nan chen manje chen men yap fèt ak yon lide pou nou bati nouvo COSMHA nou
 tout swete a. Si vrèman nou vle COSMHA mache mwen rete kwè ke nap reponn ak
 envitasyon sa.

 PS: Se pa yon reyinyon pou vin di sak fè pèsonn mal men se yon reyinyon
 kap ede kontwi kominote a. Tout moun reponn emel sa pou konfime prezans ou.




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Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 55, Issue 1

[samuel cruz]

hi manning,

the inclusion of the health facilities here in davao is approximately 90% 
complete.  i mapped those facilities and still will include that in my future 
areas that i will visit.  im with the local government of davao and i did 
inform doh ro xi about the uses of gps but fell on deaf ears... and also with 
the local tourism office. 

sam





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   1. Possible collaboration with OSM and DOH to locate health
      facilities (maning sambale)


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Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 19:02:36 +0800
From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org,  Steeve Ebener
    steeve.ebe...@gaia-geosystems.org,  Mark Anthonie Bello
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Dear everyone,

I had a meeting with Department of Health (DOH) IMS division on the
possibility of collaborating with the OSM-PH community.  No clear
plans yet on the collaboration but I would like to put forward the
discussions in this list.

= Overview =
Basically, DOH intends to improve their database for the location of
health facilities in the country.  They will use the data on several
information management of the Department.  At the moment, they have
several database developed in various projects.
Each db uses a different system but one thing they lack is a uniform
geographic identifier.  An example of the db is available in the
Unified Health Management Information System portal [0].  This online
portal lists ~21,000 health facilities all over the country.

At the moment they were able to geocode ~4,000 locations [2] (~20%).

= What they need from OSM =

A couple of ideas that were discussed are:
- Verify the location of the 4,000 geocoded facilities in the
existing OSM data.  Right now, there isn't any clear evaluation on the
accuracy of the locations (a process of Q/A is now being developed).
Some facilities are actually in Sulu Sea!  Check out the southern part
of Negros island [2].
- Fill in the gaps. the IMS division have limited funds to
individually verify and take GPS readings of each facility.  OSM data
can possibly fill in the gaps.  Using the Overpass turbo [3], I was
able to check that we have ~1,100 amenity=hospital ways and nodes.
Note that some maybe duplicates and I have not included other health
facilities like barangay health centers (tagged as amenity=clinic
clinic=public [4]).
- Ask the community to map more health facilities.  The only
additional tag they want included is the Health Facility Code (an
alphanumeric code similar to NSCB's PSGC [5]).  This code will allow
them to link the OSM geometry into their health facility db.
- Train DOH staff to edit OSM.
- Build some easy to use tools to collect data in the field.

= Pending issues =
As with most government data, they are available only on a
non-commercial use.  Specifically, the DOH generated locations.  For
the other information in the online db, they are OK with public access
without restrictions. This will be in conflict with OSM's ODbL.  A
workaround discussed was to separate the DOH db with OSM's data
points.  No public db will be distributed that integrates both data
sources.  Is this in compliance with the ODbL?  If not, what are other
ways in which we can use OSM data in relation to DOH's plans.

Everything I've listed are open to discussions.  I included here two
people from DOH to keep them aware of the discussions. (@ Steeve and
Mark, please subscribe to our mailinglist [6] to keep track of the
discussions)

Regardless of what DOH intends to do, I encourage everyone to include
health facilities in your own list of things to map.

Thanks!

---
[0] http://uhmis1.doh.gov.ph/UnifiedHMIS/
[1] http://uhmis1.doh.gov.ph/doh_facility/rfacilitieslist.php?cmd=resetall
[2] http://maps.doh.gov.ph/facilities.html
[3] http://overpass-turbo.eu/
[4] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2010-March/001872.html
[5] http://www.nscb.gov.ph/activestats/psgc/default.asp
[6] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph


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cheers,
maning

Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 53, Issue 9

[samuel cruz]

hi all,

i was in new bataan on dec 12 and 13. the worst hit in comval area was in new 
bataan wherein theres still excavating dead bodies from the mud. basically half 
of the town is buried with atleast one foot deep of mud and lumber. still no 
electricity and the water is not safe for drinking coz of the contamination of 
decaying bodies. the town stinks really. so far a lot of help arrived there.  
right now, the major concern is that of in banganga. baganga can be reached by 
land via butuan or by boat.  there are more casualties in baganga. im uploading 
my data i collected in new bataan. one second track is also uploaded for 
imagery alignment if we have in the future.

so far what is needed now in new bataan is more on reconstruction 
/rehabilitation



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   1. Re: Typhoon Pablo (Bopha) (maning sambale)


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Dear everyone,

As some of you maybe aware, we are on the 2nd week since Typhoon
Bopha/Pablo struck large areas of the Philippines.  Several
humanitarian agencies are now deployed to assist in the response.
MapAction [1]  is requesting updated road and other information to
many inaccessible areas in the region.

I created a task in HOT's tasking manager [2] , please help in the
tracing.  Right now we have limited imagery coverage (only Bing and
OrbView-3) but you can trace a lot of information from already from
these imagery.  More information on what and how to trace in the
tasking details/workflow.

Advance thanks for helping.


[0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoon_Bopha_%282012%29
[1] http://mapaction.org/deployments/depldetail/216.html
[2] http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/115


On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:42 AM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks again JGC for the additional imagery.  The imagery made worried
 more.  I am seeing many small clusters of settlements around the area
 which I fear is not yet accessed by ground responders. :(

 Some updates on the data request by several humanitarian agencies:

 1. The humanitarian cluster led by the Red Cross is building a
 database to support the response.  Description of the activity below:

 Data entry support/leadership: We may have a few thousand surveys
   to enter into the database, which means ideally 10-20 data entry
   people once the survey starts. I am looking for volunteers and a
   computer lab to operate in. If either of you can help me with some
   leads on either of these (students are great because they can usually
   type well and we can give them a certificate), that would be amazing.

 I am currently coordinating this with a local university in Davao
 City.  If anyone based in the region is interested to participate, let
 me know.

 2.  MapAction [1] is looking for an updated road data.  While I
 believe most of the major roads available in Bing imagery is now
 traced, we lack data for minor roads particularly for the remote
 areas.  Orbview-3 can augment this coverage, a few I already added.
 along New Bataan and Maragusan [0].  I am waiting for MapAction's
 response on what specific areas they need road update.  Pending this
 information, I request mappers to continue digitizing roads in Bing
 and OrbView3.  Other features worth tracing are waterways
 (waterway=river) and settlements (place=neighborhood,village,hamlet)

 [0] http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=7.342lon=126.1915zoom=13layers=M
 [1] http://mapaction.org/deployments/depldetail/216.html

 Once we get a clear understanding of where and what needs to be
 mapped, I will create a tasking manager job for this.

 On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 4:41 AM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com wrote:
 Hello,

 Two other OrbView-3 images are now available at the south end of the
 strip (as well as another one at the north end, and one in the middle of
 the strip).

 The cloud coverage of these 4 new images is between 25 and 33%, which
 is why they were not included in 

Re: [Talk-br] Rollback de mudanças feitas na base em Belo Horizonte

[Samuel Vale]

On Ter, 2012-12-04 at 15:33 -0200, Danilo Cardoso wrote:
 Pessoal;
 
 
   Identifiquei algumas mudanças feitas na base em Belo Horizonte que
 estão totalmente equivocadas. Aparentemente alguém aprendendo a mexer
 no editor em mesmo brincando.
 
 
   Eu sei que as ruas de um bairro aqui de BH estão totalmente
 bagunçadas (Bairro Padre Eustáquio, logo abaixo da avenida Pedro II)
 
 
Perguntando no forum e vendo no Wiki o pessoal disse que é possível
 executar uns scripts que desfazem as modificações de um changeset, só
 que recomendam que isso seja feito por um usuário experiente.
 
 
Alguém participante dessa lista sabe executar esse script. Dei uma
 olhada no histórico e os changesets problemáticos são os seguintes:
 
 
 13871831 November 14, 2012 15:05 
 Rafael Gouvea alipio
 #13871332 November 14, 2012 14:19 
 Rafael Gouvea teste3
 #13871027 November 14, 2012 13:49 
 Rafael Gouvea teste2
 #13870979 November 14, 2012 13:46 
 Rafael Gouvea

Oi Danilo,

Complementando sua lista, há alguns dias encontrei algumas edições do
usuário abaixo que removem uma parte de um cruzamento de vias primárias.
Não identifiquei o changeset exato ainda, mas o usuário tem poucas
edições, não será difícil. No fim de semana conseguirei realizar um
revert dele, se ninguém o fizer antes. Ainda não fiz contato com o
usuário.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Guilherme%20Braga%20Ara%C3%BAjo/edits

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Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 53, Issue 1

[samuel cruz]

i guess thats true. i guess i sumitted a tracks there though i wasnt who made 
the polygon





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   2. Re: MILF satellite camp? (Ronny Ager-Wick)


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Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 16:15:09 +0800
From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [talk-ph] MILF satellite camp?
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Found this in the OSm DB:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/102679650

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Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 16:23:53 +0800
From: Ronny Ager-Wick ro...@ager-wick.com
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Anyone volunteering to verify? :)

On 03/12/12 16:15, maning sambale wrote:
 Found this in the OSm DB:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/102679650





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Re: [Talk-ht] Formation COSMHA

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Salut Fred
 Il est deja 2h 11 minutes, fait nous signe...

Le 20 octobre 2012 02:31, frmone frmo...@gmail.com a écrit :

  Bonjour Samuel,

 Oui toujours a HC si cela ne pose pas de problème, c'est le plus simple.

 On va téléphoner pour confirmer, mais de toute façon, il y a la formation
 à 15h.

 Est il possible d'avoir un retour sur vos méthodes de collecte avec
 Android. (j'ai pu en trouver un avant de venir en Haiti).

 A+ fred


 Le 10/20/2012 2:23 PM, ALCE, Samuel Paul a écrit :

 Salut Fred,
  Toujours a HC? Tu as oublie d'y mentionner...

 Samuel Paul ALCE
 On Oct 20, 2012 7:55 AM, Fred Moine frmo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bonjour à tous,

 Est il possible de se voir à 14h00, pour avoir un compte rendu de Crisis
 Mapping.

 Pour Parler des échanges de mail avec Pierre Beland, sur les Tag water et
 en general la cartographie en Haiti

 Mike Maron a aussi envoyer un mail informant sur :
 Upcoming Haiti Hackathon: From Local Solutions to National
 Systems
 http://digital-democracy.org/2012/10/02/upcoming-haiti-hackathon-from-local-solutions-to-national-systems/
 

 De mon côté je suis arrive Lundi soir:

 Avec Dany et Presler nous avons commence a preparer la données d'elevation
 pour le projet Hot d'Eurosha et on a installer Open Geo Suite pour charger
 les données.

 J'ai pu aussi rencontrer le recteur de l'Université de Quisqueya pour
 realiser une Mapping Party OSM en soutien au montage d' un laboratoire
 d'innovation (intelligence virtuel, GIS, remote sensing,etc...) a
 Quisqueya.

 Donc voila un peu les nouvelles, d'ou la volonté de se rencontrer avant la
 formation à 14h00 pour les personnes disponibles.

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Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 50, Issue 15

[samuel cruz]

hi,

i just learned from a friend that ipad has an application, the offmap 2 that 
uses odm map for philippines. not sure about this but maybe someone can confirm 
this.

sam



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   2. Re: iOS 6 using osm and tomtom? (maning sambale)
   3. Re: SOTM 2012 feedback (maning sambale)


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Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:16:41 +0800
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Hi Mike,

On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote:
 1) Reducing latency for general mapping for as many Filipinos as possible.

 It looks as though all Philippine mapper's traffic would get routed through
 a network in or around Metro Manila no matter what.  Therefore from a
 latency point of view alone, and assuming PLDT routing, um, peculiarities,
 could be resolved then Manila would be the best place to put a server. A
 close second would be Hong Kong ... and might be better as per Eugene's
 point.

This reason suggests that latency is a big problem for editors in the
Philippines. I daresay that latency is not that big a problem when
compared to the broadband average speed of household connections in
the country. Most households, when they have broadband connections at
all, have an average maximum speed of around 1 Mbps. Actual speeds are
much less than that.

I did a ping to the OSM server from my home and I get around 400ms in
terms of latency. But when you're editing in JOSM and downloading
plenty of data, and especially if you also download GPS points too,
the download and upload of data takes several seconds. And once the
data is downloaded, JOSM will spend some time to parse the OSM XML
data and to process it for editing, and this depends on the speed of
one's computer. Given that kind of editing situation, latency is a
small problem and might not be a best target for improvement. (See
Amdahl's Law[1].)

On the other hand, setting up a server in HK would also serve many
Asian OSM communities like Japan and Indonesia. While this does not
specifically target the OSMPH community, and might not foster a
technical community, serving the Asian OSM communities might be a
better reason for the investment than simply trying to solve network
latency problems.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl%27s_law



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Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:43:26 +0800
From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
To: tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.com
Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] iOS 6 using osm and tomtom?
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I also recommend osmand for android it supports:

- offline map and routing
- voice activated routing
- gps log record and direct upload to osm
- point edits to osm

Maning Sambale (mobile)
On Sep 15, 2012 1:42 PM, tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.com wrote:


 hi!

 On Sep 15, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote:
 
  Did we have this conversation before?

 oh yes, sort of, but what was discussed even a few days ago is obsolete
 now. cant cope up.

 tried a few apps eg myTracks et al but im too lazy to download the gpx
 tracks

  :-) This is all available on Android, although not in the same app as
 far as I can find out. You can get a nice cheap Android for about 9k these
 days (the Huawei G300 is getting good reviews), or 4k if you really push it
 (Cherry Mobile). I use Trekbuddy for OSM data with offline maps and 1s
 logging. You can run a different app for routing. At the same time if you
 want
 an android is a long time want. only reconsidering it since i've lost my
 garmin. will try the cherry mobile. i want one with a tv if there's one and
 it wont hurt much if i lose it :)


 
  Anyway, I don't see any reason to drop 40k on the latest Apple. Paying
 more for a phone than a computer has always seemed a little obscene to 

Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 49, Issue 17

[samuel cruz]

hi maning,

the same thing when you make a route from cateel to mati then to tagum. same 
error occurs like that of xycris




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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 06:45:20 +0800
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FYI, I recently noticed that this bot is running in some areas of the
country.

Maning Sambale
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Date: Aug 22, 2012 10:32 AM
Subject: [OSM-talk] DWG post-redaction bot cleanup
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The Data Working Group is beginning to revert some copypaste remapping and
similar problems that did not make it onto the bot list for one reason or
another.

The tools being used aren't the fastest so we do not have a definite ETA.

This should not significantly impact normal mapping although uploading
frequently is always a good idea.

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Dear list,

I got this message from Xycris.  I did check the area of concern, but
I didn't find any obvious errors.  Here's another message he/she sent
me privately inclduing coordinates for routing tests.

Good day Sir Emmanuel,

First and foremost, thank you very much for the effort of bringing a
Philippine map for GPS enabled devices.

I have just registered to OSM but I am reluctant to make any edits for
I don't know how to do it that I might just sabotage the works laid by
many other contributors.

 Here is the error Information made by MapSource:

App: MapSource
At: 8/13/2012 5:25:43 AM (UTC)
OS: Windows 7 (64-bit) Service Pack 1
Processor: x86, Processor Level: 6, Processors: 4, Model 42 Stepping
7, RAM: 8297160
MPL_MAP.CPP-2243-6.16.3.0

Products Installed:
Name: OSM Philippines 20120810
IdL 41877505
Version 1.0
Type: Standard
Map: 63240005
Error code: 3

Here is my description as to how I came up with the error:
MapSource gives an error when creating routes for a certain stretch of
road, namely the Tubod Highway in Iligan City, Lanao del Norte,
Philippines. This error can be observed by making a route from Cagayan
de Oro City to Kolambugan or Ozamis City and vice versa. The error is
specifically generated when routing from the following Tubod Highway
coordinates: N8 12.544 E124 13.106 to N8 13.212 E124 14.505 and vice
versa.

I don't know how to edit that in OSM but I found that along that
stretch of the highway, two or three gates were in place. I am
guessing these gate markers are cauing the error in MapSource. But I
am not sure if this is really the case cause I haven't edited it.
Traveling on that area, I believe the gate was meant for the entrance
and exit of the now closed National Steel Corporation and not on the
highway. There are no gates on the highway itself. The National Steel
Corporation is located near the sea side of the Tubod Highway.

Sincerely,
Xycris




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Date: Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 7:19 PM
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Good day Sir/ Madam,

I have downloaded a Garmin routeble version of the Philippine Map
compiled by Mr. Maning Sambale. It is installed in MapSource 6.163 and
in a Garmin MobileXT.

Using either of the software to route the 

Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 49, Issue 2

[samuel cruz]

count me in!


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      (Clara Straimer)


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Dear all,

I am currently working with the German Red Cross and hoping to put on a
mapping training by End of August, beginning of September with the
Philippine Red Cross in Iligan City and Cagayan de Oro City.

Is anyone from your team based in Mindanao or would anyone of you like to
present OSM initatives in the Philippines via skype?

Just a short intro to OSM - the training is for people with no prior
mapping experience but I would like to offer as many different inputs as
possible ;)

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Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 49, Issue 2

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count me in. i love to travel to places just to map! 



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Dear all,

I am currently working with the German Red Cross and hoping to put on a
mapping training by End of August, beginning of September with the
Philippine Red Cross in Iligan City and Cagayan de Oro City.

Is anyone from your team based in Mindanao or would anyone of you like to
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Just a short intro to OSM - the training is for people with no prior
mapping experience but I would like to offer as many different inputs as
possible ;)

With best wishes,
Clara Straimer

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Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 48, Issue 2

[samuel cruz]

hi ning,

is there a way to widened the roads of osm map?  it would appear like 
toothpicks in my unit.  im mapping osm but im actually not using it. btw, im 
using oregon 450



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Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 10:10:37 +0800
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The forest polygon in Mt. Palay-palay was tagged as a national park
and landuse=military.  I'm not very sure, but I don't think this the
actual boundary of the national park.

Data details:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/81149627

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Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 46, Issue 19

[samuel cruz]

tom tom is self serving in his comment



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Here's TomTom's recent article criticizing un-pre-moderated
crowd-sourced mapping (OSM is not named, but it's quite obvious):
http://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/licensing/newsletter/201205/didyouknow/

Here's a slap down reply by Richard Fairhurst (OSMF Board member):
http://www.systemed.net/blog/index.php?post=23

And here's the requisite Slashdot thread:
http://news.slashdot.org/story/12/05/29/019213/tomtom-flames-openstreetmap

As maning said on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/maning.sambale/posts/4174530287009: First
they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you
win.?

It seems TomTom has left the ignore you stage already. :p


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Navteq, which was bought by Nokia in 2007.

Note 2: As far as I know, Tele Atlas does not have significant data in
the Philippines.



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Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 46, Issue 2

[samuel cruz]

shew!! i thought im guilty of it.  



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   2. worst of osm (maning sambale)


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Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 19:59:08 +0800
From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
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I have a balloon mapping rig ready for deployment anytime. The difficult
part is finding helium on-site.

http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/2012/01/21/helium-high/
On May 1, 2012 5:10 PM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote:

 Thought this might be interesting to the group.


 http://google-latlong.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/balloon-and-kite-imagery-in-google.html

 They mention an open source mapping kit priced at USD 100.

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http://worstofosm.tumblr.com/

As the bloginfo says: Everyone edits. But not everyone thinks.

;)

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Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 45, Issue 22

[samuel cruz]

hi maning,

i noticed that theres no more tab for gpx file upload  in the osm.org. where 
can i upload my tracing?



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      21st of April, 2012 (Eugene Alvin Villar)
   2. Re: Non- Motorized Transport Forum and Mapping Workshop -
      21st of April, 2012 (maning sambale)
   3. OSMRM project has a worldwide coverage now (maning sambale)


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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 06:56:12 +0800
From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
To: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Non- Motorized Transport Forum and Mapping
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Hi guys,

Here are some photos from this event on Facebook (taken by Maning):
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150812503222597.464394.345455082596type=1

Thanks to Maning, Rally, and Wayne for attending this event. ASoG -
iBoP Asia - NeMo has also said they plan to hold another mapping
workshop in May and this is now mostly dedicated to contributing to
OSM. We would like it if more people can join! :)

Also, the event last Saturday was aired on GMA News yesterday. Has
anybody seen that? (My sister saw the news segment on TV in a bus and
said she saw my back. Hehehe.)

Eugene


On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:36 PM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Anybody, apart from Rally. Maning and Eugene joining this event?

 On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 4:59 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi guys,

 I'll just give a short background regarding this event.

 Early this year, OSMPH was invited to help out with the crowd-sourced
 mapping aspects of the New Mobility Project (?Catalyzing New Mobility
 in Cities: The Case of Metro Manila?), which is spearheaded by the
 Ateneo School of Government through their Innovations at the Base of
 the Pyramid in Southeast Asia (iBoP Asia) initiative.

 They had a project launch last January 31 and February 1 where the
 target area to be used as an example was North Triangle in Quezon
 City. Rally attended that event and we were all pleasantly surprised
 to see OSM used as the map. You can check the write-up of that event
 from Smart here:
 http://www.um-smart.org/blog/2012/02/08/smart-e-news-february-2012/

 Some photos from that event showing OSM maps are the following:
 http://www.um-smart.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/12-2-7_Manila-Mapping6.jpg
 http://www.um-smart.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/12-2-7_Manila-Mapping5.jpg
 http://www.um-smart.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/12-2-7_Manila-Mapping.jpg

 The project had another event on March 13 and the target area was the
 Ortigas CBD.

 So this April 21 event is just another one in a series of events for
 the New Mobility Project (NeMo). This time the target is non-motorized
 transport (i.e., cycling) and the groups invited are cycling advocates
 like the Firefly Brigade.

 I hope many of you can come. :)

 Eugene


 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:31 PM, maning sambale
 emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Corrected link to invitation:
 https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B-2WZQ1DwK_xdnhYQTljWVJfLTQ

 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:24 PM, maning sambale
 emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear everyone,

 We are invited to facilitate a mapping workshop for non-motorized
 transport. ?The goal of this workshop is to help various organization
 get started with OSM in mappping non-motorized transport facilities in
 Metro Manila such as:
 ?- Cycling lanes, routes, parking, and related facilities
 ?- Bike shops and service centers
 ?- Points where cyclists gather on weekends

 10 slots are reserved for any OSMer who can assist the group.
 Invitation letter and other details here:
 https://docs.google.com/open?id=16Rf4JkTxB1eETc0kfurlG0W6y66f4XD2o21mpOvOMxEbNtS1NGFUq_Y2DCwS

 Maning, Rally and Eugene will lead the workshop but any extra hands is
 most welcome. ?If you are interested, please inform us. ?We may need
 to meet in the morning to discuss distribution of tasks.

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Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 44, Issue 23

[samuel cruz]

last year, the national goverment or the doh conducted some sort of gps 
training. i was not able to attend but their keen on the identification of the 
health centers.  for davao city, i guess around 80% were already included in 
the map




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   2. Re: Philippines License Change-over Readiness - Contact    and
      Remapping (maning sambale)
   3. Re: Crowdsourcing health facilities (maning sambale)
   4. Re: odbl coastline (maning sambale)
   5. Re: odbl coastline (Totor)


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Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 07:54:28 -0700 (PDT)
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Hi,

Anyone who can recommend a repair shop for Garmin units? Salamat!

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To: Totor totor_...@yahoo.com
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Last week, I also sent messages to the top 20 non-agreers. 3 agreed so far.
I'm still talking to another contributor to agree.
On Mar 24, 2012 6:45 PM, Totor totor_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 This is an old thread...
 I just wanted to add that end january, I also tried to contact Hellodeck
 directly on an identically named googlemail account (Asking if he was the
 same person, cos I can't be sure).
 I never received any answer.

 Cheers,

 Totor

 --- On Mon, 1/9/12, maning sambale  wrote:

  Dear mike,
 
  Replies inline.
 
  What is needed to participate in pilot project you
  mentioned?
   would like to ask you to join the UK in a
   License Working Group pilot project to engage global
  mappers on a
   country-by-country basis.
 
  AFAIK, several attempts were made to contact large
  contributors who
  have not responded in the license change.  In
  particular, I sent
  several emails to hellodeck.  I got no response so
  far.
   guess that if  contributor hellodeck can be reached,
  that would tip the
   balance. Does anyone know if that is possible?
 
  We have a list of areas that require re-mapping here:
  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/remapping
 
  To all mappers,  I suggest you update the list so that
  we know where
  to ficus re-mapping efforts.
   I strongly recommend that first you look at your areas
  and contact undecided
   mappers via the OpenStreetMap messaging system or
  directly if you know them.
 
  Further ideas on how we start remapping welcome.
 
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To: Wayne Manuel wdman...@gmail.com
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Dear wayne,

If they are interested to use osm data to supplement dara coverage, we can
give instructions on how to extract them. Or, if they need specific
information, we can add moe tags.
On Mar 24, 2012 10:33 AM, Wayne Manuel wdman...@gmail.com wrote:

 The person-in-charge of the project is my friend.

 What type of help could we provide them? They've asked me about the
 extraction from Google Maps but for OSM, they didn't ask me.

 

Re: [Talk-ca] canvec data offset

[Samuel Longiaru]

But which is the rightposition?  When one is given to be 3 cm's off
the other, neither is more accurate, given the data collection
technique.  I think you are beyond the accuracy of the data themselves
at that level.  While merging and then combining a stream or a road that
crosses a tile boundary, trying to decide which node is more accurate
is one of those questions best asked only during periods of intensive
navel contemplation.  Take either one.  The precision of the data exceed
their accuracy I would guess by several orders of magnitude.  Is the
next node along the way mapped to 3 cm accuracy?  Or the next, or the
next?  No.  Here is an example where good enough is TRULY good
enough.  It's all the science can bear. 

Sam

 

-Original Message-
From: michael bishop cle...@nbnet.nb.ca
To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] canvec data offset
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:01:04 -0400

yeah, thats what i had to do for every node
but part is the issue there, is that when i merge 2 nodes, it doesnt
always go to the 'right' position'
need to manualy select them in the right order to make it go in the
right direction, it seems more like an error in the canvec data then an
extra step i need to do on every tile
almost looks like floating point rounding errors, but not sure why some
tiles are ok and others arent


On 01/30/2012 05:56 PM, Samuel Longiaru wrote: 

 
 Have you tried just zooming back a bit in JOSM and merging them?  It's
 part of my stitching process for each tile.  I've never had a merge
 refused because of a 3 cm difference (but, of course I've never looked
 that closely to see how far apart they were actually).  We're dealing
 with precision here... not accuracy at that level.
 
 Sam
 
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 From: michael bishop cle...@nbnet.nb.ca
 To: Samuel Longiaru longi...@shaw.ca
 Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] canvec data offset
 Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 17:42:42 -0400
 
 yeah, its not much, but its enough to screw up josm when trying to
 combine things between the 2 tiles
 have to fix each node on the border one by one, no real patern to
 which direction they are shifted
 even along a solid line (the edge of the tile), the nodes are going
 updown and zig-zagging across the edge
 
 
 On 01/30/2012 05:31 PM, Samuel Longiaru wrote: 
 
  
  I can hardly put my finger to my nose to within .03 meters... and
  that's not even drunk.  :)
  
  Sam L.
  Kamloops
  
  
  
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  Subject: [Talk-ca] canvec data offset
  Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 17:11:27 -0400
  
  
  ive been working with canvec for a few days now, and ive noticed some of 
  the data is offset by 0.03 meters
  its not matching up with nearby tiles
  
  for example 021O10 doesnt match up with 021O07
  
  ive noticed the problem on other tiles aswell, but didnt think to write 
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[Talk-ca] Canadian-specific boundary tweaks for MkGMap

[SAMUEL LONGIARU]

Good Afternoon Everyone, 

I've been lurking on the MkGMap developers list for several months now and see 
that recently, they have solved some major issues regarding finding streets 
when OSM is imported for use on Garmin GPS's... without the use of MapSource!  
They are now moving on to the problem of locating by house number.  That's a 
great accomplishment and the developers deserve a lot of credit.!!!  Very well 
done.

Don't know if anyone else has been playing with this, but in short, there may 
need to be some Canadian-specific tweaks placed into the default style files 
that are packaged with MkGMap.  Through adjustments to the MkGMap command line 
options, I've been able get the location function to work fairly well in my 
Nuvi 255, but have run into the issue where I can find Granville Street in 
Vancouver but Hastings Street can only be found under Gastown and Dundas 
Street under Capitol Hill.  These should all be found in Vancouver.

My first guess is that the administrative boundary levels need to be tweaked, 
not in OSM but in the MkGMap style files where some recasting can take place.  
They already have country-specific tweaks for about 20 European countries but 
nothing for Canada yet.

I was just wondering if anyone has a customized MkGMap style file that works 
logically with the way administrative boundaries have been set up in Canada?  
If so, and we can show that it works well with r2179, their most  recent stable 
version, we could probably pass it on to them for inclusion in the packaged 
style files so that the location function will work by default on Canadian 
extracts.  Assuming you're willing to share of course :)

Thanks...

Sam Longiaru,
Kamloops, BC        

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Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian-specific boundary tweaks for MkGMap

[Samuel Longiaru]

Ah... well that could be the issue.  I was not aware of that.  I thought
those were established a while ago through a GeoBase import.  Thanks.

Sam

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To: 'SAMUEL LONGIARU' longi...@shaw.ca, talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: RE: [Talk-ca] Canadian-specific boundary tweaks for MkGMap
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:25:57 -0800

The administrative boundaries in the lower mainland are not complete.
I’ve been looking for a source for the rest of them, but haven’t found
one.

 



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Re: [Talk-ca] import complaints

[Samuel Dyck]

I /think/ I'm responsible for that big error in Hudson Bay. I've fixed 
it, but can't quite figure out how two small mistakes caused that big 
glitch. Perhaps the real problem is that the coastlines are updated only 
a few times a year, I fixed the problem as soon as I saw it, and yet it 
will persist on all levels. (I don't know if this can be changed, don't 
interpret this as a demand or passing of the blame for the error)


In regards to the imports. I mostly import in areas without any decent 
aerial imagery, or in some cases people (though in some cases images 
came after the import) . If someone is willing to pay me to map these 
areas (I don't mind donating time, but I need to eat/get there) and give 
me good aerial imagery and a high quality GPS I will swear off Canvec, 
but that doesn't seem likely.


Sam Dyck

On 11-12-02 04:56 PM, talk-ca-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote:

We could ban imports.  But we still want to have access to external
sources.  So let's start treating external like we treat aerial
imagery.  When you do a foot survey you take notes and photos and draw
sketches.  Then you map it by referring to your notes and photos and
sketches and aerial imagery.  That's how we notice that the aerial
imagery is three years old doesn't show the new shopping plaza or
extension on the old mill.  And we consider all of those sources then
take the best we can from every source and put it in OSM.  That's why
OSM is so good where we have a rich community.  OSM is better than any
other single source.


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Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 40, Issue 19

[samuel cruz]

i hope we can have more satellite pics on mindanao side for tracing to make 
life more interesting. 


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In case you have ideas.
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Date: Nov 30, 2011 2:59 AM
Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM(F) strategy - suggestions review
To: osmf-t...@openstreetmap.org, t...@openstreetmap.org, 
strate...@openstreetmap.org strate...@openstreetmap.org

Hello all,

[crossposted to various groups]

As you may know the OSM Foundation has lots of terribly boring-sounding
working groups and the Strategic Working Group is possibly the most
boring-sounding of the lot.

However... occasionally we do things that are not stultifyingly boring and
this might be one of them.

We are trying to get soundings as to how you, the community, want OSM to
grow in the months and years ahead. This is not a directive imposed from
above, nor a grand scheme to make zillions by becoming the next Facebook;
this is finding out what the mappers, the people who make OSM great, want
to see.

Thus far we've trawled through various mailing lists, the wiki, and so on
to find the ideas that come up most frequently. But we might have missed
some, or you might have had a superb idea which has been ignored so far.

The list so far is at:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/**wiki/Strategic_working_group/**
Suggestion_reviewhttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Strategic_working_group/Suggestion_review

Do read it; and we would welcome your further suggestions on the
'Discussion' page.

The important bit is that we are looking to collate suggestions about OSM's
future _strategy_. For example:
* OSM should grow the mapper base
* OSM should make special efforts to reach out to the developing world
* OSM should develop osm.org into a consumer-facing map site to rival
Google Maps
...or not.

We are not looking for operational suggestions (e.g. OSM should rewrite
the editor in HTML5). OSM is a do-ocracy and the way you get operational
suggestions through is by doing them. :) Nor are we making judgments, or
seeking opinions or debate, about the suggestions quite yet - just
collating them.

Knock yourselves out. :)

cheers
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Argh, Canvec imports

[Samuel Dyck]

Hi

I /think/ I'm responsible for the problems in Hudson Bay. The issue was 
I forgot to delete the intermittent coastline from Canvec and only 
discovered my error once the coastline was updated. I've fixed the 
problem, but I have no idea if I am responsible for that big blob of 
grey in the southern half (I didn't do any editing there, I have to wait 
until the next update to find out). I've seen coastline errors many 
times before, I remember there was a large one in Southern Ontario for a 
while, and Newfoundland had several until recently.


Here is the problem:
-Editors don't notice their mistakes until the coastline is updated, so 
they stick around in the data for a while
-When the mistakes are fixed it takes a few weeks for the corrections to 
show up on mapnik
-Coastlines are handled differently than the natural=water tag, which 
confuses people

-Mapnik doesn't render natural=water at high levels
-Mapnik ignores the water=intermittent tag

I'm not suggesting we use natural=water (that would be a terrible idea), 
there just needs to be a way for editors to check the rendering of their 
coastlines.


Sam Dyck
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Re: [Talk-ca] Proposal: Removing imported aboriginal land

[Samuel Longiaru]

I have been finding many of these here in south central BC and have been
leaving them of course, but consistently find that they are very highly
over digitized.  I have been simplifying their boundaries in JOSM and
and find that I can easily get a 20 or 30-fold reduction in nodes
without changing the boundaries.   Seems like a reasonable first step to
take.

Sam Longiaru
Kamloops



-Original Message-
From: john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com
To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-ca] Proposal: Removing imported aboriginal land
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:09:10 -0400

First nations is fun.  Treaties were negotiated with England, Queen
Victoria I think it was, at a nation to nation basis, in recognition of
the assistance that the natives had given the British.  Canada is the
only country in the commonwealth were such treaties were made.
Everywhere else the English simply proclaimed themselves as owning
everything.

They are tagged with admin_level=4, the same as provinces, which
misrepresents their importance.

An interesting observation.  Are you saying that a province rates above
a nation or below it?

Viewable to Z4, - this is more a rendering issue than anything else.  

No one has edited them to improve them.  -  We could throw out quite a
bit of OSM based on that.  My take would be given we don't have as many
mappers on the ground as we would like and some one may find this
information to be of value so leave it in the map until it fades away
because of the CT tags.  You never know some one might take an interest
in it and update it, currently it would seem to be the best information
available.

Cheerio John


On 27 October 2011 17:39, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote:


In 2010 acrosscanadatrails imported Aboriginal reserves. An
example is http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1016901

 

These are viewable all the way out to z4.

 

I propose removing these for a few reasons.

 

1.   From what I’ve seen, no one has edited these to improve
them.

2.   Acrosscanadatrails has not agreed to the CTs. He has
indicated his contributions are public domain, so the data could
be downloaded and reimported, but I do not believe that should
be done.

3.   The tagging is questionable, with two FIXMEs. They are
tagged with admin_level=4, the same as provinces, which
misrepresents their importance.

4.   The tagging for aboriginal lands is not settled. See
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:boundary#First_Nations for 
some discussion. Although this shouldn’t stop people from mapping them, I 
believe it should stop them from being imported.






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[Talk-ca] Coastline on low zoom levels

[Samuel Dyck]

Hi Everyone

The sparse selection of North American lakes at low zoom levels on the 
mapnik layer has become embarrassing. Could we get the file used to 
generate the coastlines at low resolutions updated.


Lakes missing:

- Southern half of Lake Winnipeg
- Lake Manitoba
- Almost all of Great Slave Lake
- Great Salt Lake
- Lake of the Woods
- Smallwood Reservoir
- Lake Simcoe
- Lesser Slave Lake

And many others around the world.

Sam Dyck

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[Talk-ca] User:CANVEC

[Samuel Dyck]

Hi

Maybe I missed something here, but who exactly is User:CANVEC 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/CANVEC? They only joined in July and 
their edits have been confined to Ellesmere Island, southeastern Quebec 
and northwestern New Brunswick. Not suprisingly, all their edits are 
Canvec imports. A review of Talk-ca messages shortly before and after 
account creation yields no information.


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[Talk-ca] Tagging Cardlock gasoline

[Samuel Dyck]

Hi everybody

I have been away from the internet for much of the summer and am now 
entering information gathered in my travels into OSM. However I 
encountered some problems with some fuel stations. Many stations in 
rural Canada, particularly those owned by consumer co-ops are cardlocks: 
unstaffed stations that require the customer to insert a punchcard, they 
will receive a monthly bill for their purchases in the mail. As such 
most travellers cannot use them. Any suggestions as to how to tag them?


Sam Dyck

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[talk-ph] Re mindanao tracks

[samuel cruz]

hi ning,

im currently replacing the old mindanao tracks with the latest track taken by 
my friend who rode his mountain bike all the way through. that may have cause 
the conflict i guess but i hope not

sam




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Casual OSM browsing lead me to this area:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=7.97lon=125.579zoom=11layers=M

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Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 06:29:59 +0800
From: Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.com
To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] soliciting navdroid PH map improvements
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Have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap there are a
whole bunch of droid apps and list is growing. I am using one for
windows ce I got from this list

Phone and GPS displays

AndNav2?and?Navit?for?Maemo?and?Android
CartoType?- Map rendering and routing library for iPhone, iPad,
Android and Symbian OS (commercial).
City Maps 2Go?offline?satnav?application for iOS (iPhone and
iPad)(paid, closed source)
ForeverMap?offline?satnav?application for iOS (iPhone and iPad),
Android (paid, closed source)
Galileo Offline Maps?offline?satnav?application for iOS (iPhone and
iPad)(paid, closed source)
GpsMid?Java ME application
HotSpot Navigator?Java ME application
iLOS?online OSM Map and POI search for iPhone and iPad (universal)
MapDroyd?offline mapping application for Android (free, closed source)
Maps (-)?offline map viewer/GPS navigator for Android
MapsWithMe?Offline map viewer for iOS (iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch)
(free, closed source)
Mobile Street Map?Java ME offline map viewer (free, open source)
NavDroyd?offline?satnav?application for Android (paid, closed source)
NaviPOWM?offline map viewer and data collector for?Windows Mobile
OffMaps 2?offline?satnav?application for iOS (iPhone and iPad)(paid,
closed source)
Opentouchmap.org?a web interface optimized for touch screen devices
such as the?iPhone
OruxMaps?- Moving-map, tracks, routes, waypoints, auto-cached maps
online, offline, free?Android?app.
OsmAnd?online/offline mapping application for Android (free, open source)
OSMDroid?tools for?Android?to interact with OpenStreetMap data.

Cheers

Mark


On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote:

 Did you look at Trekbuddy? Its got tracks and waypoints, and a static map. No 
 routing though.

 Jim

 Ed Garcia wrote, On Monday, 01 August, 2011 05:54 PM:
  hmm... here are some...
 
  if only navdroyd can do track logs
  and mark or collect waypoints
  and have custom POI lists like the Nuvi extras,
  it would then be the perfect android gps tool for me.

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[osm-ve] invitacion al 7mo Dia Debian Barqjuisimeto

[Samuel Rojas]

Hola Colisteros,

El 20-08-2011 en el Decanato de Ciencias y Tecnologia de la Universidad
Centro Occidental Lisandro Alvarado, se celebrarà el 7mo Dia Debian, con un
conjunto de Charlas tecnicas dirigidos a usuarios medianos y avanzados con
al menos 5 temas confirmados desde programacion, administracion y
licenciamiento en Debian y Android.

por ahora por falta de tiempo no hemos habilitado el registro de asistencia,
pero pueden estar pendiente por la pagina en Facebook que hemos destinado
para ello
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=222099414499506

habra certificados de asistencia, lo cual para obtenerlo deben seguir estos
pasos:

- estar pendiente de la publicacion de la platilla del certificado por el
link que anteriormenete se indico. (esta en proceso de diseño)
- rellenar el certificado con su nombre y apellido (participante,
colaborador, ponente depende de como asista)
- Imprimirlo y entregarlo al equipo del Lug que gestionara la validacion a
través de la firma y sello.
- Se recibira en la mañana hasta las 10am y se entregaran a las 4pm (el
comite ese dia no imprimira certificados tomen previsiones)

Costo de la entrada: Solo las ganas de ir, ya que es Libre y Gratuita.

un saludo


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[Talk-ca] Corrupted upload... workflow question and best practices

[Samuel Longiaru]

Good Morning Everyone,

Not sure if this is the correct place to post this but it doesn't seem
like a JOSM problem or a Newbies issue either.  Maybe someone can direct
me elsewhere if this isn't the best place.

OK... so I'm slowly plodding along importing CanVec data into south
central BC.  Yesterday, however, I encountered a problem that may be a
result of my workflow process and I need some guidance in order to help
avoid the same thing in the future.

For the past 5 or 6 days, I have been working on 82L3.1.2 - a file that
covers the southern part of Vernon, BC as well as parts of Okanagan and
Kalamalka Lakes.  There was already some existing OSM... some of which I
had Bing-mapped myself several months ago and bits and pieces by several
other account holders.  As I could see this was going to be a
particularly painstaking import, I decided to  save the OSM download
layer locally on my machine and merge item by item from the CanVec layer
down onto it.  By yesterday, the new composite OSM layer was looking
pretty good.  Considerable data had been added and some old OSM... such
as my previous Bing mapping, had been deleted and replaced with the
CanVec.  Also, I had made other edits such as removing abbreviations,
added turning circles, etc.  I saved it one more time locally, then
uploaded it to the server.

In the course of uploading, there was a synchronization error on one
node... a gas station in the original OSM that I had repositioned.  The
error stated that I had version 1 of the node, whereas there was an
existing version 2.  I synchronized that data point only and from what I
could tell, the upload proceeded normally.

However, checking the server later, it was clear that the upload did not
go well.  Over 6,000 data points had been uploaded with no corresponding
ways.  Some pre-existing OSM... such as my earlier mapping that I had
deleted from the working copy had not deleted from the server, resulting
in duplicate ways.  There really seemed to be no pattern to the failure.
Some water features uploaded, some didn't.  Some highways did, some
didn't.  There was also no time-related pattern.  Errors were not
related to just my earlier or later edits.  It was an equal-opportunity
failure across the data set.

Some time ago, I experienced occasional upload errors where nodes were
being uploaded but not the ways.  I was advised on the list at that time
to cut the batch size from 2000 points down to 500.  I did so  and until
now have had no further failures.  I was also advised to just try to
upload again as sometimes that's enough.  So I tried re-uploading last
night but it didn't recover.  I can't remember the issue exactly in that
case, but by then what was on the server was in such a mess I wasn't
surprised.

In any event... by 2 AM last night the south Vernon area was in pretty
good shape again.  There might be a couple of minor road-network issues
to fix and some land-use and stream features that need restored.  I
still have probably another day or so of cleanup to get it to where it
should be. 

So where did I screw up?  

Clearly, downloading an area from the server and working on it locally
for a week before uploading is not best practices and can lead to
synchronization errors... although in this case, it's hard to see how
the error associated with a single gas station node could lead to such
widespread failure.  But when faced with a synchronization error like
this, is it best to synchronize the whole data set or only the offending
points?  Is that where I went wrong?  And just what are best practices
for importing where it is clear that the job will take a long period of
time?  Make a couple of edits and upload?  Make a couple more edits and
upload?  Is this the best approach?  Or is there something in my
procedure or in the tools that I'm missing that will help avoid this in
the future.

Thanks in advance,

Sam L.
Kamloops
 
 
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Re: [Talk-ca] Kamloops Data

[Samuel Longiaru]

Hi Matthew...

Great to have another active mapper in Kamloops.  I think that now makes
two.  Anyway, I've contacted you off list to see if we can get together
and get something organized.  I would be happy to help.  The City does
have a beautiful data set, subsets of which could be a worthwhile
addition.  

Thanks for getting this started.

Sam Longiaru
Kamloops




-Original Message-
From: Matthew Buchanan matthew.ian.bucha...@gmail.com
To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-ca] Kamloops Data
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 14:35:46 -0700

Hello
I'm a new user to OSM and I've been enjoying it so far. I have done some
edits to various places in BC that I know well. I posed a question, seen
below at the OSM forum regarding data from the City of Kamloops that is
freely available. I received permission from the GIS Coordinator at the
City to use whatever data I want .
http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=13208

I thought I'd discuss it on this list as well. So far I've only imported
a subset of building outlines, trees, and parks. I went through the data
to clean it up before I imported using JOSM.

Are there any users from the Kamloops area here?

-- Matthew Buchanan
-- Kamloops, BC

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Re: [Talk-br] Imagens Aéreas do Estado de Minas Gerais

[Samuel Vale]

On Sex, 2011-07-01 at 20:15 -0300, teste wrote:
 Eae Samuel, novidades?

Fiz contato com o pessoal e recebi um retorno, desculpe a demora. Me
pediram um documento mais formal, com algumas informações sobre a
finalidade. Irei enviar um documento formal, caso ainda assim
dificultem, penso em pedir ao pessoal da fundação para enviar uma
solicitação diretamente para eles.

Mando notícias.

Abraço,
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Re: [Talk-br] Imagens Aéreas do Estado de Minas Gerais

[Samuel Vale]

On Ter, 2011-06-21 at 18:01 -0300, enqd wrote:
 Olá Samuel,  Fico feliz em ter feito contato. 1TB realmente é espaço
 adoidado, é muita mídia. Fui no irc do osm e fiz uma pergunta se
 alguem tem espaço em servidores  para colocar as imagens, mas ninguém
 respondeu. Mas acho que vale uma mensagem na lista perguntando
 novamente. 
 Essa questão do termo, fiquei curioso, será que tem alguma restrição?
 Se as imagens foram compradas com dinheiro público, deveriam ser de
 domínio público. Deixa o pessoal usar as imagens do jeito que
 quiserem, rsrsrs.

Bom, vou requisitar as áreas pedidas, pra iniciar o contato. Farei isso
hoje ou amanhã. Quando vier algum termo restritivo a gente tenta
conversar com eles.

 Já que não existe espaço suficiente em HD/midias para copiar as
 imagens de todo estado, concordo em requisitar as imagens dos
 municípios que o pessoal aqui tiver interesse. Quando acharmos uma
 solução para armazenar todas as imagens, agente (samuel) vai
 requisitando mais imagens junto ao IEF..  Lembrando que talvez o
 próprio IEF armazene essas imagens no servidor deles em breve (esse
 breve geralmente demora viu). Samuel: Vc questionou isso?

Não, não perguntei. No próximo contato converso sobre isso. Mas acho que
o contato pelo telefone foi muito bom, tirando que terei de me deslocar
até lá pra buscar o material.

 Enfim, já que temos poucas cidades (4 até agora) seria interessante
 requisitar as 3 coberturas.

Ok.

 Outra pergunta: No seu servidor, tem espaço para armazenar quanto? Vc
 saberia montar um servidor wms para que as imagens possam por exemplo
 serem usadas no OSM?

Já montei um, pouco tempo atrás, com as imagens da enchente de Alagoas.
Tenho uns 20-30GB, talvez seja suficiente pra esse início. Acho que haja
outros serviços disponíveis com os colegas, caso necessário. O
complicado, como alguém levantou em outro e-mail, é a banda pra enviar
isso tudo.

Envio um retorno assim que receber resposta.

Abraço,
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