Re: Filter for mutiple SENDERs

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MAU,

On Sunday, April 24, 2022 you wrote:

M> Hello Jack,

M> Sorry for my late reply, I was away all week and can't use my phone to 
M> send to the list.

>> I owe you an apology Miguel.

M> Heck no! You owe me a beer ;-)

I would be delighted to provide a beer or two, or seven, should we ever meet.

You will be amused to learn that your method of accomplishing what I was after
has now been incorporated into yet another group.

Again, my sincerest appreciation for your help.

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Re: Filter for mutiple SENDERs

[MAU]

Hello Jack,

Sorry for my late reply, I was away all week and can't use my phone to 
send to the list.

> I owe you an apology Miguel.

Heck no! You owe me a beer ;-)



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Re: Filter for mutiple SENDERs

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MAU,

On Monday, April 18, 2022 you wrote:

M> Hello Jack,

>>  I  need  to  trap  a  bunch  of  ever  changing  merchandise and/or
>>  political ads. Each one is different.

M> Even if it is an ever changing list of ads (senders), I still think the 
M> AB Groups is a much easier and cleaner way than the endless ORs or 
M> BLOCKS that you were trying. If you get a mew add (sender) all you 
M> have to do is add it to your AB and ABGroup and the filter will still 
M> work as desired. No need to fiddle with the filter.

M> But then, you do know better than me what you really want to do. 

I owe you an apology Miguel. After using your method of trapping a multiple list
of senders I find that it is much more "elegant" than I originally thought. It
turns out that your method is much easier to use than the "block" method I was
attempting to make work. I see that it also finds variations of the address I
was adding to the group which would have been missed had I gotten the "block"
method to work.

So, in sum, a great implementation of one of TB!'s more arcane features.

Thanks again.

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Re: Filter for mutiple SENDERs

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MAU,

On Monday, April 18, 2022 you wrote:

M> Hello Jack,

>> Once again I am in need of a way to filter (trap) multiple senders. So far 
>> the
>> only thing that has worked is OR>SENDER>CONTAINS>text for each sender. 
>> Needless to
>> say, this leads to a very large filter.

M> Do you have all the senders in your Address Book? If yes, I would 
M> create an AB Group and add all those senders to the AB Group . Then
M> filter with condition:

M> Address groups - "AB Group" - contains - sender

M> I use this for family and some groups of friends.

Thank you Miguel, that seems to work, if a little Rube Goldbergish. Being able
to use the "block" function as part of a condition seems to me to be a little
more elegant but since I can't get it to work the way I think it should work,
I'll continue to use your method since your method DOES work.

Once again, I appreciate your expertise in matters batty.

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Re: Filter for mutiple SENDERs

[MAU]

Hello Jack,

>  I  need  to  trap  a  bunch  of  ever  changing  merchandise and/or
>  political ads. Each one is different.

Even if it is an ever changing list of ads (senders), I still think the 
AB Groups is a much easier and cleaner way than the endless ORs or 
BLOCKS that you were trying. If you get a mew add (sender) all you 
have to do is add it to your AB and ABGroup and the filter will still 
work as desired. No need to fiddle with the filter.

But then, you do know better than me what you really want to do. 

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Re: Filter for mutiple SENDERs

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MAU,

On Monday, April 18, 2022 you wrote:

M> Hello Jack,

>> Once again I am in need of a way to filter (trap) multiple senders. So far 
>> the
>> only thing that has worked is OR>SENDER>CONTAINS>text for each sender. 
>> Needless to
>> say, this leads to a very large filter.

M> Do you have all the senders in your Address Book? If yes, I would 
M> create an AB Group and add all those senders to the AB Group . Then
M> filter with condition:

M> Address groups - "AB Group" - contains - sender

M> I use this for family and some groups of friends.

Thank you for the suggestion Miguel but alas, no. I need to trap a bunch of ever
changing merchandise and/or political ads. Each one is different. I plan to
unsubscribe from them all but until I have the time to do I thought I'd just
have the filter mark them as READ and move them to the trash folder. I've set
the trash folder to limit quantity to 500 and to delete old ones when closing
TB!.

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Re: Filter for mutiple SENDERs

[MAU]

Hello Jack,

> Once again I am in need of a way to filter (trap) multiple senders. So far the
> only thing that has worked is OR>SENDER>CONTAINS>text for each sender. 
> Needless to
> say, this leads to a very large filter.

Do you have all the senders in your Address Book? If yes, I would 
create an AB Group and add all those senders to the AB Group . Then
filter with condition:

Address groups - "AB Group" - contains - sender

I use this for family and some groups of friends.

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Filter for mutiple SENDERs

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello TBUDL'ers,

Once again I am in need of a way to filter (trap) multiple senders. So far the
only thing that has worked is OR>SENDER>CONTAINS>text for each sender. Needless 
to
say, this leads to a very large filter.

I've tried stacking each sender (separated by CRLFs) which didn't work and using
the BLOCK text holder where apparently (or not) multiple senders can be loaded
in a BLOCK. That doesn't work either. So, either I'm not understanding how the
BLOCK function is supposed to be used (probable) or it just doesn't work
(un-likely).

Needless to say, any help will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Filter help

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Ian,

On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 you wrote:

IAW> G'day  Jack,


>> Anyone have any idea why the filter caught 39 of them and not any of the 
>> others?

IAW> I have a similar situation where I use the following common filter for 
incoming messages.

IAW> The "members" of the group are set as contacts in an addressbook group.
IAW>  
IAW> I then use \\\Inbox\%AbFromGroup as the destination
IAW> folder and where the members have just one e-mail address, there is
IAW> generally no issue. It is when they have multiple addresses each that there
IAW> appears to be an issue with how the addresses are entered and used.
IAW>  
IAW> I have had to enter a blank line between addresses and even going to the
IAW> start of each address and pressing enter. The extra blank lines get deleted
IAW> (which points to an addressbook issue) so that when you go into the entry
IAW> again the blank lines are no longer there.

IAW> Maybe your issue is similar.

Unfortunately I won't know if Stuart's suggestion bore fruit until I clean out
all the emails that got trapped by the filter because of an error on  my part.
However, if Stuart's suggestion did *not* work as hoped I'll be delighted to try
yours.

Thank you Ian.

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Re: Filter help

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Stuart,

On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 you wrote:

SC> Hello Jack,
SC>   A reminder of what Jack S. LaRosa typed on:
SC>   July 21, 2021 at 12:46:20 GMT -0500

JSL>> It seems so simple and as I mentioned, a "re-filter" action on the source 
folder
JSL>> did find 39 of the emails contained in the block of addresses. But only 
on the
JSL>> first re-filter. Subsequent re-filterings MOVED no more addresses. Even
JSL>> changing the condition ie: SENDER, TEXT, HEADER, MESSAGE SOURCE, or 
HEADER FIELD
JSL>> had no effect. It never did find any more of the multitude of addresses
JSL>> contained in the block.


SC> Did you try Sender "Contains any of" instead of just "Contains"

That MAY have worked Stuart. Un-fortunately, I had a couple of conditions set in
the actual filter from previous tests, and in my haste to try your suggestion I
overlooked them. This caused many emails to get moved to the destination folder
that shouldn't have. I'll have to weed out those inadvertant moves and compare
the final count of emails to the count before the re-filter to see if it has
gone up.

I'll let you know.

Many thanks Stuart.

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Re: Filter help

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Jack,
  A reminder of what Jack S. LaRosa typed on:
  July 21, 2021 at 12:46:20 GMT -0500

JSL> It seems so simple and as I mentioned, a "re-filter" action on the source 
folder
JSL> did find 39 of the emails contained in the block of addresses. But only on 
the
JSL> first re-filter. Subsequent re-filterings MOVED no more addresses. Even
JSL> changing the condition ie: SENDER, TEXT, HEADER, MESSAGE SOURCE, or HEADER 
FIELD
JSL> had no effect. It never did find any more of the multitude of addresses
JSL> contained in the block.


Did you try Sender "Contains any of" instead of just "Contains"

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Re: Filter help

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MAU,

On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 you wrote:

M> Hello Jack,

>> I have a folder which contains multiple unique emails from a particular 
>> group of
>> people. They were originally moved there manually. I wanted to create a 
>> filter
>> for the source folder to look for the characters in their email addresses 
>> which
>> appear before the @ sign, then move those emails to the aforementioned
>> destination folder. When I re-filtered the source folder, only about 39 of 
>> the
>> emails actually got moved. Many more which met the criteria specified in the
>> filter were never moved. I double and tripled checked for typing errors and
>> there were none.

M> It  would  be  much  better that instead of trying to explain what your
M> filter  does,  or  you  think it does, that you copied your filter and
M> pasted it here in the list so that we could really look at the filter,
M> and maybe even test it.

>> I used the block option in the creation of the filter because there were so 
>> many
>> (about 128) addresses I wanted caught.

M> I don't know how you used the block option unless I do see the filter.
M> Anyway,  if you are talking about 128 or so addresses, my own approach
M> would  be  to  put  all  those addresses in an Address Book Group, say
M> '128ers', and the in the filter condition use:

M> Address groups 128ers contains Sender

Thank you Miguel. I'm going to try your suggestion.

However, if this .png makes it through (it's only 4KB), it'll show how the
filter is built. Notice the up/down arrows to the right of the box displaying
"email address 5". clicking those arrows will move you up or down through all
the 127 *actual* addresses entered in the "block".

It seems so simple and as I mentioned, a "re-filter" action on the source folder
did find 39 of the emails contained in the block of addresses. But only on the
first re-filter. Subsequent re-filterings MOVED no more addresses. Even
changing the condition ie: SENDER, TEXT, HEADER, MESSAGE SOURCE, or HEADER FIELD
had no effect. It never did find any more of the multitude of addresses
contained in the block.

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Re: Filter help

[MAU]

Hello Jack,

> I have a folder which contains multiple unique emails from a particular group 
> of
> people. They were originally moved there manually. I wanted to create a filter
> for the source folder to look for the characters in their email addresses 
> which
> appear before the @ sign, then move those emails to the aforementioned
> destination folder. When I re-filtered the source folder, only about 39 of the
> emails actually got moved. Many more which met the criteria specified in the
> filter were never moved. I double and tripled checked for typing errors and
> there were none.

It  would  be  much  better that instead of trying to explain what your
filter  does,  or  you  think it does, that you copied your filter and
pasted it here in the list so that we could really look at the filter,
and maybe even test it.

> I used the block option in the creation of the filter because there were so 
> many
> (about 128) addresses I wanted caught.

I don't know how you used the block option unless I do see the filter.
Anyway,  if you are talking about 128 or so addresses, my own approach
would  be  to  put  all  those addresses in an Address Book Group, say
'128ers', and the in the filter condition use:

Address groups 128ers contains Sender

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Filter help

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello TBUDL'ers,

I have a folder which contains multiple unique emails from a particular group of
people. They were originally moved there manually. I wanted to create a filter
for the source folder to look for the characters in their email addresses which
appear before the @ sign, then move those emails to the aforementioned
destination folder. When I re-filtered the source folder, only about 39 of the
emails actually got moved. Many more which met the criteria specified in the
filter were never moved. I double and tripled checked for typing errors and
there were none.

I can't pinpoint the 39 that were moved because the destination folder had over
a hundred already-read emails and the emails that didn't get moved from the
source folder were also already-read.

I used the block option in the creation of the filter because there were so many
(about 128) addresses I wanted caught. In the re-filter options of the source
folder I chose incoming mail, read mail and replied messages all at once.

Anyone have any idea why the filter caught 39 of them and not any of the others?

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Macro as filter action

[Adrian Godfrey]

Is it possible to use a macro (%NORCPTCONFIRM and %NOREADCONFIRM) as a filter 
action? I need this to happen for every incoming mail, i.e. "any message", 
remove the receipt and reading confirmation flags and then continue processing 
with other filters.

All my e-mail addresses ignore "read confirmations" anyway, but I keep finding 
"reading receipt confirmations" in an Outbox.

I have version 9.3.4 of The Bat.

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Re: Create Filter- creates an unwanted folder

[MAU]

Hello Acheton,

> 
> At this point a new folder will be created, based on TB's
> autopopulation in the Move To box, despite being unticked.

Not here. Again I suggest trying with latest version.

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Create Filter- creates an unwanted folder

[Acheton]

Hi all,

The create filter option is creating a new folder in error, to repro follow the 
steps below:

1. RC on an email and select Create filter
2. When the Create Mail Filter window opens, note that the Move to box is 
marked and a folder selected. Untick Move to
3. Assign to a Colour group for instance
4. Hit OK

At this point a new folder will be created, based on TB's autopopulation in the 
Move To box, despite being unticked.


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Re: Filter / Folder Question

[Jody Watts]

Hello Stefan Tanurkov via TBUDL,

Thank you. I used The Bat for MANY years several years ago. I moved to a MAC so 
I couldn't use it, but I have moved back to Windows so I'm back. I am 
embarrassed to say, I forgot about the folders tab in the filter manager .. so 
thanks for the push in the right direction!

<Begin Quoted Text>
Wednesday, December 2, 2020, 10:01:55 AM, you wrote:

> Hello Jody,

> Wednesday, December 2, 2020, 4:23:43 AM, you wrote:

>> Is there a way to set ANY message, that is in a specific folder, as read. 

> Presumably, you are talking about IMAP folders in your scenario, then the 
> answer is yes - you can do it with incoming filters assigned to specific 
> folders, select "Any message" or whatever condition you need and add the 
> "mark as read" action to the filter.


<End of Quoted Text>


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Re: Filter / Folder Question

[Stefan Tanurkov via TBUDL]

Hello Jody,

Wednesday, December 2, 2020, 4:23:43 AM, you wrote:

> Is there a way to set ANY message, that is in a specific folder, as read. 

Presumably, you are talking about IMAP folders in your scenario, then the 
answer is yes - you can do it with incoming filters assigned to specific 
folders, select "Any message" or whatever condition you need and add the "mark 
as read" action to the filter.

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Filter / Folder Question

[Jody Watts]

Hello tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com,

Is there a way to set ANY message, that is in a specific folder, as read. 

Here is the scenario ..

At times I use a web based email or the browser built in email client (in 
testing) to read email. When I delete a message from those sources, TheBat will 
show it moved to the trash, but still shows it as unread. I would like any 
message that is in the trash folder to be automatically marked as read.

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Re: Create a filter that deletes...

[Susanne]

Hello,

Sunday, June 7, 2020, 1:25:09 AM, Peter wrote:


S>> I'm looking to create a filter that will delete messages from certain
S>> email addresses if they are older than 3 days.

> Create an address book group containing only the selected addresses.
> Then set your filter to "Address groups... [handle]... contain sender.

Thanks, Peter!
That works! I always forget about the address groups.


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Re: Create a filter that deletes...

[Peter Meyns]

Hi,

on  Sat, 6 Jun 2020 10:24:14 -0700GMT (06.06.2020, 19:24 +0200GMT here),
Susanne wrote:

S> I'm looking to create a filter that will delete messages from certain
S> email addresses if they are older than 3 days.

S> This works fine, if I create the filter for just one email address at
S> a time, but not if I make a list of several addresses.
S> I've tried "contains any of" and "matches any of" with no success.

Create an address book group containing only the selected addresses.
Then set your filter to "Address groups... [handle]... contain sender.

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Re: Forwarding Filter

[MFPA]

Hi


On Friday 5 June 2020 at 6:26:22 PM, in
, Susanne wrote:-


> Hello,

> Friday, June 5, 2020, 10:18:03 AM, MFPA wrote:

>> Are you looking at the log for the account the
>> messages were moved 
>> FROM, or the log for the account where they ended up?

> The one it's sent from.
> But none of my account logs show received message info.

I just noticed that my account logs are also not showing filter
actions, except when I re-filter. Try selecting the message in the
message list, then clicking "folder" at the top of the screen, then
clicking "Re-filter", then select "incoming mail", "log filtering
results", and "Re-filter selected messages only", then clicking "OK".


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Create a filter that deletes...

[Susanne]

I'm looking to create a filter that will delete messages from certain
email addresses if they are older than 3 days.

This works fine, if I create the filter for just one email address at
a time, but not if I make a list of several addresses.
I've tried "contains any of" and "matches any of" with no success.

  

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Re: Forwarding Filter

[Susanne]

Hello,

Friday, June 5, 2020, 6:49:14 PM, Thomas wrote:

> I use only POP accounts, so the logging may be different.

That seems likely. I wonder why it's so much more limited with IMAP
accounts.

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Re: Forwarding Filter

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Susanne,

On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 09:25:41 -0700 GMT (05-Jun-20, 23:25 +0700 GMT),
Susanne wrote:

> Hello,

> Thursday, June 4, 2020, 8:32:04 PM, Thomas wrote:

>> Yes. You will see something like this:

>>>05-Jun-20, 10:29:08: FILTR - received message from sisk...@gmail.com (9030 
>>>bytes) (processed by "TBUDL"), URL: 
>>>msgid:1346052294.20200604202...@gmail.com?folder=\\Gmane\Bat%20TBUDL

>> The part '(processed by "TBUDL")' is the name of the filter in this
>> case.

> Strangely, I only see messages I sent logged in the account log. And
> messages deleted by a filter. Is there something I have to change in
> the settings? Mine is an IMAP account, if that makes any difference.
> Also, the messages deleted by a filter do not show me the name of the
> filter!
> Example: 6/5/2020, 07:03:22: FILTR - Message from em...@email.com is 
> deleted
> No further information to be seen.

I use only POP accounts, so the logging may be different.

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Re: Forwarding Filter

[Susanne]

Hello,

Friday, June 5, 2020, 10:18:03 AM, MFPA wrote:

> Are you looking at the log for the account the messages were moved 
> FROM, or the log for the account where they ended up?

The one it's sent from.
But none of my account logs show received message info.

It's currently too late to see the forwarded messages in question, as
the log was set to only show a couple of days. Have change the file to
a larger size.




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Re: Forwarding Filter

[MFPA]

Hi


On Friday 5 June 2020 at 5:25:41 PM, in
, Susanne wrote:-


> Strangely, I only see messages I sent logged in the 
> account log. And messages deleted by a filter. Is 
> there something I have to change in the settings?

Are you looking at the log for the account the messages were moved 
FROM, or the log for the account where they ended up?


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Re: Forwarding Filter

[Susanne]

Hello,

Thursday, June 4, 2020, 8:32:04 PM, Thomas wrote:

> Yes. You will see something like this:

>>05-Jun-20, 10:29:08: FILTR - received message from sisk...@gmail.com (9030 
>>bytes) (processed by "TBUDL"), URL: 
>>msgid:1346052294.20200604202...@gmail.com?folder=\\Gmane\Bat%20TBUDL

> The part '(processed by "TBUDL")' is the name of the filter in this
> case.

Strangely, I only see messages I sent logged in the account log. And
messages deleted by a filter. Is there something I have to change in
the settings? Mine is an IMAP account, if that makes any difference.
Also, the messages deleted by a filter do not show me the name of the
filter!
Example: 6/5/2020, 07:03:22: FILTR - Message from em...@email.com is deleted
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Re: Forwarding Filter

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Susanne,

On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 20:21:35 -0700 GMT (05-Jun-20, 10:21 +0700 GMT),
Susanne wrote:

> Hello,

> Thursday, June 4, 2020, 1:35:10 PM, MAU wrote:
>> Open  the  Account.log  by  clicking  on the Status bar at the bottom.
>> This  will  include  FETCH lines for each message downloaded and FILTR
>> lines  for  each  filter triggered. These should allow you to find out
>> which filter is actually forwarding messages.

> Thanks!
> I've just looked there, and I don't see where it specifies what filter
> triggered the response.

> It just says FILTR.
> Is there a way to find out more. I have quite a lot of filters! :)

> I have to wait for this particular filter to do the forwarding again,
> as I can only see today and yesterday in the account log.

Yes. You will see something like this:

>05-Jun-20, 10:29:08: FILTR - received message from sisk...@gmail.com (9030 
>bytes) (processed by "TBUDL"), URL: 
>msgid:1346052294.20200604202...@gmail.com?folder=\\Gmane\Bat%20TBUDL

The part '(processed by "TBUDL")' is the name of the filter in this
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Re: Forwarding Filter

[Susanne]

Hello,

Thursday, June 4, 2020, 1:35:10 PM, MAU wrote:
> Open  the  Account.log  by  clicking  on the Status bar at the bottom.
> This  will  include  FETCH lines for each message downloaded and FILTR
> lines  for  each  filter triggered. These should allow you to find out
> which filter is actually forwarding messages.

Thanks!
I've just looked there, and I don't see where it specifies what filter
triggered the response.

It just says FILTR.
Is there a way to find out more. I have quite a lot of filters! :)

I have to wait for this particular filter to do the forwarding again,
as I can only see today and yesterday in the account log.



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Re: Forwarding Filter

[MAU]

Hello Susanne,

>I recently deleted a filter that forwarded any mail with "ticket"
>in the title to another one of my accounts.
>
>For some reason, TB still forwards these messages.

Open  the  Account.log  by  clicking  on the Status bar at the bottom.
This  will  include  FETCH lines for each message downloaded and FILTR
lines  for  each  filter triggered. These should allow you to find out
which filter is actually forwarding messages.

>How do it stop this!

Make sure you do delete the filter that is forwarding messages.

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Forwarding Filter

[Susanne]

Hello,

   I recently deleted a filter that forwarded any mail with "ticket"
   in the title to another one of my accounts.

   For some reason, TB still forwards these messages.
   How do it stop this!

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Re: Email Filter question

[MFPA]

Hi


On Sunday 19 January 2020 at 8:36:15 PM, in
, Marck Pearlstone
wrote:-



> It didn't cater for those in both groups.  

Ah, thanks. I couldn't see that for looking. I started with a more
complicated solution and evidently simplified it too far; in my mind I
still had that covered. (-:


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Re: Email Filter question

[Susanne]

Hello,

I'm in the process of setting this up, but have trouble with point 3)

I don't see how to set "delete the message and stop".

Also, do I choose to only filter the inbox for all of the filters/subfilter, or 
any folders?

Thanks again!

Saturday, January 18, 2020, 1:33:55 AM, Marck wrote:

> Now create 3 Subfilters of that top level filter

>1) If sender in Group A copy to Folder A and continue processing
>2) If sender in Group B copy to Folder B and continue processing
>3) delete the message and stop.



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Re: Another filter question

[Susanne]

Thank you!

Sunday, January 19, 2020, 12:37:11 PM, Marck wrote:

> On 19 January 2020 at 16:50 Susanne wrote and made these points

S>> This should be easy, but I can't figure it out:
S>> how can I have any message sent into the Trash folder automatically be 
marked as read?

> With 2 actions:

> 1. Mark as read
> 2. Delete (or move to trash).



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Re: Another filter question

[Marck Pearlstone]

On 19 January 2020 at 16:50 Susanne wrote and made these points

S> This should be easy, but I can't figure it out:
S> how can I have any message sent into the Trash folder automatically be 
marked as read?

With 2 actions:

1. Mark as read
2. Delete (or move to trash).

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Re: Email Filter question

[Marck Pearlstone]

On 19 January 2020 at 13:27 MFPA wrote and made these points

>> Having  seen  the other answers, I note that the
>> actual working answer
>> hasn't been presented, so I'll give it a go.

M> Out of interest, in what circumstance would my answer not work?

It didn't cater for those in both groups.

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Another filter question

[Susanne]

This should be easy, but I can't figure it out:
how can I have any message sent into the Trash folder automatically be marked 
as read?

Thanks in advance!

  

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Re: Email Filter question

[MFPA]

Hi


On Saturday 18 January 2020 at 9:33:55 AM, in
, Marck Pearlstone
wrote:-


> Having  seen  the other answers, I note that the
> actual working answer
> hasn't been presented, so I'll give it a go.

Out of interest, in what circumstance would my answer not work?

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Re: Email Filter question

[Susanne]

Hello,

Saturday, January 18, 2020, 1:33:55 AM, Marck wrote:

> This  will  give you the functionality you're looking for. I have many
> nested and structured filters like this. They work well.

Thanks, Marck!

I will gibe that a try. I didn't even know about subfilters, until now! :)

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Re: Email Filter question

[MAU]

Hello Marck,

> Having  seen  the other answers, I note that the actual working answer
> hasn't been presented, so I'll give it a go.
>
> a:  create new filter with 2 conditions "Sender in Group A" or "Sender
> in Group B" and no action.
>
> b: Now create 3 Subfilters of that top level filter
>
>1) If sender in Group A copy to Folder A and continue processing
>2) If sender in Group B copy to Folder B and continue processing
>3) delete the message and stop.
>
> This  will  give you the functionality you're looking for. I have many
> nested and structured filters like this. They work well.

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Re: Email Filter question

[MAU]

Hello Feli,

>> Then a third filter with condition "Address groups AB contain sender"
>> And two actions:
>> Move to folder A
>> Copy to folder B
>
> The first action should be
> Copy to folder B
> because when you move first, there is nothing to copy

Nope.  The  order  of  the  move  and  copy  actions  doesn't  make  a
difference. It works both ways, try it :)

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Re: Email Filter question

[Marck Pearlstone]

On 16 January 2020 at 23:14 Susanne wrote and made these points

S> Thursday, January 16, 2020, 2:12:25 PM, you wrote:

>> There are several ways this could be achieved. Here's a suggestion,
>> which I have not tested.

S> I'll test out different things, or maybe go with your suggestion to treat it 
as one group,
S> as I have not fallen out with anyone. I'm sure you are right, and mix-ups 
will happen.

Having  seen  the other answers, I note that the actual working answer
hasn't been presented, so I'll give it a go.

a:  create new filter with 2 conditions "Sender in Group A" or "Sender
in Group B" and no action.

b: Now create 3 Subfilters of that top level filter

   1) If sender in Group A copy to Folder A and continue processing
   2) If sender in Group B copy to Folder B and continue processing
   3) delete the message and stop.

This  will  give you the functionality you're looking for. I have many
nested and structured filters like this. They work well.

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Re: Email Filter question

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello MAU,

Am 16.01.20 um 22:41 schrieb MAU:

Then a third filter with condition "Address groups AB contain sender"
And two actions:
Move to folder A
Copy to folder B


The first action should be
Copy to folder B
because when you move first, there is nothing to copy

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Re: Email Filter question

[Susanne]

Hello MFPA,

Thursday, January 16, 2020, 2:12:25 PM, you wrote:

> There are several ways this could be achieved. Here's a suggestion,
> which I have not tested.

I'll test out different things, or maybe go with your suggestion to treat it as 
one group, 
as I have not fallen out with anyone. I'm sure you are right, and mix-ups will 
happen.

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Re: Email Filter question

[MFPA]

Hi


On Thursday 16 January 2020 at 8:16:41 PM, in
, Susanne wrote:-


>   Now, a few people have fallen out with each other,
> and the group
> is splitting into two, with some of the same people
> being in both
> groups, and others just in one or the other.

If you are in both groups and haven't fallen out with anybody, easiest
would be to ignore the split and treat it as still one group.



>   How can I filter the messages into two folders,
> without getting mix-ups?

I would think mix-ups are inevitable with or without automatic 
filtering. If somebody else in the group mixes up, the message they 
send might trigger the wrong filter when it gets to you.



>   Is it even possible?  

There are several ways this could be achieved. Here's a suggestion,
which I have not tested.

Filter_1 
two conditions:- 
a - the sender is any address in the wider group
b - the recipient contains all (or any) of the addresses that are
only in SubGroup_1  
Action - move all messages to the SubGroup_1 folder. 
 


Filter_2 
two conditions:- 
a - the sender is any address in the wider group
b - the recipient contains all (or any) of the addresses that are
only in SubGroup_2  
Action - move all messages to the SubGroup_2 folder.


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Re: Email Filter question

[Susanne]

Hello Miguel,

Thursday, January 16, 2020, 1:43:12 PM, you wrote:

> Don't delete any filters yet. Just set them to NOT Active.

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Re: Email Filter question

[MAU]

Hello Susanne,

> I assume I need to delete all my previous filters for the group?

Don't delete any filters yet. Just set them to NOT Active.

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Re: Email Filter question

[MAU]

Hello MAU,

> Maybe  it  is  not  the  only  way to achieve what you want, but this
> should work.

I  think  I  "spoke"  too  fast and it won't work. I think the move to
action  will  not  work  correctly  for  those who are on both groups,
because the first filter will move them to folder A and the second one
to B. But I am afraid it will not remain in A.

Maybe you will need to create 3 AB groups. A for those who are only in
A, B for those in B and AB for those who are on both.

Then a third filter with condition "Address groups AB contain sender"
And two actions:
Move to folder A
Copy to folder B

Filter  1  in  previous  message  will  not  need to include "Continue
processing..

I will try to test this tomorrow if I have some time.



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Re: Email Filter question

[Susanne]

Hello Miguel,

Thursday, January 16, 2020, 1:13:40 PM, you wrote:

> Yes, it is. The best I can think of is using Address Book Groups.

Thanks very much!

I assume I need to delete all my previous filters for the group?

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Re: Email Filter question

[MAU]

Hello Susanne,

>   How can I filter the messages into two folders, without getting mix-ups?
>   
>   Is it even possible?

Yes, it is. The best I can think of is using Address Book Groups.

Create  two  groups  A  and  B. Include in A those in group A and in B
those in group B. And include in A and B those that are on both.

Then use two filters.

1. With Condition: "Address groups A contain sender"
   And action: Move to folder A.
   In  the  Options  for  this filter, select "Continue processing with
   other filters", so the next filter will also be executed.

2. With Condition: "Address groups B contain sender"
   And action: Move to folder B.
   DO NOT select "Continue processing..."

Maybe  it  is  not  the  only  way to achieve what you want, but this
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Email Filter question

[Susanne]

Hello everyone,

  I'm having a tricky situation:
  a group of friends has been emailing each other for years and I have the 
mails from those addresses going into a specific folder.
  Now, a few people have fallen out with each other, and the group is splitting 
into two, with some of the same people being in both groups, and others just in 
one or the other.
  
  How can I filter the messages into two folders, without getting mix-ups?
  
  Is it even possible?

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Re: copying filter rules from computer A to computer B

[Avram Sacks]

A little over three months ago I asked for advice on how to transfer a set of 
filters for a mail account to a second computer.  Miguel Urech was kind to 
reply and I followed his advice, belatedely, three days ago. 

He wrote on Tuesday, January 10, 2017, 5:32:02 AM:

M> -  On  the MAIL directory, locate the folder/directory with the name
M>   of your account.
M> -  In  this folder, locate a file named ACCOUNT.SRB This is the file
M>   that contains all filters for that account.

M> This  ACCOUNT.SRB  file  is  the  one  that  you have to copy OVER the
M> corresponding one in computer B.

It worked fine on the second computer.   However, I have just noticed that the 
filters for this same account have stopped working, as of yesterday, on this 
account on the first computer.   The srb file is still in the account.  So, 
what is going on?

If I click on "file" in the filters window, ther is a restore filters command.  
Clicking on that asks if I want a "per filter" restore?   How do I proceed at 
this point?

The srb file is 69 kb, which is much larger than the 9 kb of some other 
accounts, suggesting that the filters are all there, but that the srb file is, 
somehow not being recognized.   Any ideas on how to fix this?


While I could just go and copy from computer B the srb file and bring it back 
to computer A, I added a couple of filters to the file on computer A and would 
like to keep them, since I don't exactly remember what I did.   

Thanks for any advice you might have.


As an aside, I sent this note to the list on Friday, and received what I 
perceive is an automatically generated message from the list server that 
stated, somewhat cryptically:  "The message's content type was not explicitly 
allowed."   I am guessing that this is because I sent the message as html, 
rather than as pure text.If so, (1) why does the list server not support 
messages in html format?, and (2) may I suggest it might be more helpful to 
just state that the message failed to post because messages sent to the list 
must be in text format?  That way, it is clear as to what a sender needs to do 
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Re: Refilter only works if the filter is set to manual

[Adrian Godfrey]

Friday, February 10, 2017, 7:32:42 PM, you wrote:

> Sorry. But as I said in previous reply, I don't need to set the filter
> to manual for re-filtering.

I couldn't find out where the log for "refilter" is, but I tried right
clicking  on  messages  and  "test filters". It looks like some of the
filters  that  should  not  actually  do  anything  somehow got set to
active. Setting them inactive seems to have fixed the problem.
I  _only_  have  "common  filters"  now.  I deleted all of them in the
individual  mail  accounts  and  added  a "catch all" as the very last
filter  in  "common  filters"  so nothing is turning up in the various
inboxes and anxyything not already filtered is in _one_ place.

Istill   don't   know  why  all  my "common filters", but only the
common filters, disappeared though, but fortunately I had a backup.

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Re: Refilter only works if the filter is set to manual

[MAU]

Hello Adrian,

>> I  didn't  have any common filters, but for testing purposes I created
>> one  and  it  just  works.  No  need  to  set the filter to manual for
>> re-filtering.
>
> If  I leave those common filters as active and "share with all", but
> NOT  manual  and I don't check "manual filters only", then I see the
> messages getting trapped, but the actions don't get performed when I
> right click on that directory and select "refilter"

Sorry. But as I said in previous reply, I don't need to set the filter
to manual for re-filtering. 

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Re: Refilter only works if the filter is set to manual

[Adrian Godfrey]

Tuesday, February 7, 2017, 6:53:52 PM, you wrote:

> When  manually re-filtering, all the filters (common and account ones)
> of  the  selected  type  (Incoming, etc.) will be used, UNLESS 'Manual
> filters  only'  is  ticked. In this case, only filters set as 'manual'
> will be used.

> I  didn't  have any common filters, but for testing purposes I created
> one  and  it  just  works.  No  need  to  set the filter to manual for
> re-filtering.

If   I  leave those common filters as active and "share with all", but
NOT  manual and I don't check "manual filters only",  then I see the messages 
getting trapped, but the actions
don't  get  performed  when I right click on that directory and select
"refilter"

If  I  set the filters to manual and select "use manual filters only",
then the filters work when I refilter that "not sorted" directory.

Maybe  I need a "catch-all" as the last of the common filters. Perhaps
there  is  something left over in the individual mail accounts. I will
try  deleting  every  filter  from  those individual accounts and hope
nothing still ends up in theire respective inboxes.

Common  filters is the logical place. I need the filters to work based
on  the content (headers) of the incoming mail and not which one of my
addresses it was sent to.

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Re: Refilter only works if the filter is set to manual

[MAU]

Hello Adrian,

> If  I  set  a  common filter to "manual" and refilter the "not sorted"
> directory for manual filters only, it works.
>
> What  do  I  need  to  do  to  make eefilter work on that "not sorted"
> directory without having to change all the existing (and any new ones)
> to manual in "common filters"?

Setting  a  filter to 'manual', whether a common or account one, means
that it will ONLY be used when manually re-filtering, and not when new
mail arrives.

When  manually re-filtering, all the filters (common and account ones)
of  the  selected  type  (Incoming, etc.) will be used, UNLESS 'Manual
filters  only'  is  ticked. In this case, only filters set as 'manual'
will be used.

I  didn't  have any common filters, but for testing purposes I created
one  and  it  just  works.  No  need  to  set the filter to manual for
re-filtering.

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Refilter only works if the filter is set to manual

[Adrian Godfrey]

For each of my email addresses, I only have two filters. An "incoming"
to  move everything to a "not sorted" directory and an outgoing one to
save sent messages in a top level directory outside the "account".

I  only  use  "common filters" for the actual filtering and that works
when new mail arrives.

All the "common filters" have "share with" set to "select all".

If  I  set  a  common filter to "manual" and refilter the "not sorted"
directory for manual filters only, it works.

What  do  I  need  to  do  to  make eefilter work on that "not sorted"
directory without having to change all the existing (and any new ones)
to manual in "common filters"?

Help,  About shows Version 7.4 (64-bit) and it is of course a paid for
version.  The  OS  is  Windows  10 Pro, but I remember having the same
issues with Windows 7 Ultimate and a 32-bit (also paid for) version 7 of The 
Bat.

I don't know whether it's Windows 10 or the 64-bit version, but all my
common   filters   disappeared  after  closing  The  Bat  properly and
rebooting my PC. I managed to recover them from a backup,
but  had  to  set  every one of them manually for the "share with" and
"select  all".  Thus  I  have  a lot of messages left over in the "not
sorted"  directory.  Strangely,  it  was  only the common filters that
disappeared.

Thanks in advance

Adrian



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Refilter only works if the filter is set to manual

[Adrian Godfrey]

For each of my email addresses, I only have two filters. An "incoming"
to  move everything to a "not sorted" directory and an outgoing one to
save sent messages in a top level directory outside the "account".

I  only  use  "common filters" for the actual filtering and that works
when new mail arrives.

All the "common filters" have "share with" set to "select all".

If  I  set  a  common filter to "manual" and refilter the "not sorted"
directory for manual filters only, it works.

What  do  I  need  to  do  to  make eefilter work on that "not sorted"
directory without having to change all the existing (and any new ones)
to manual in "common filters"?

Help,  About shows Version 7.4 (64-bit) and it is of course a paid for
version.  The  OS  is  Windows  10 Pro, but I remember having the same
issues with Windows 7 Ultimate and a 32-bit (also paid for) version 7 of The 
Bat.

I don't know whether it's Windows 10 or the 64-bit version, but all my
common   filters   disappeared  after  closing  The  Bat  properly and
rebooting my PC. I managed to recover them from a backup,
but  had  to  set  every one of them manually for the "share with" and
"select  all".  Thus  I  have  a lot of messages left over in the "not
sorted"  directory.  Strangely,  it  was  only the common filters that
disappeared.

Thanks in advance

Adrian



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Re: copying filter rules from computer A to computer B

[Adrian Godfrey]

Saturday, January 14, 2017, 12:33:16 PM, you wrote:

> You could take the opportunity to change them all to Common Filters

Common  Filters  is a much better place. Then you only have one filter
to  add  /  change  that  will  work  for  all  your  email addresses.

I  still  have some leftover in the individual mail accounts that I am
gradually  moving  to  Common  Filters one at a time as I have not yet
found a way of cutting and pasting them all in one go.

Adrian



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Re: copying filter rules from computer A to computer B

[MFPA]

Hi


On Tuesday 10 January 2017 at 11:32:02 AM, in
, MAU wrote:-


> Hello Avram,

>> Is there a way I can replace the filters rules for
>> that account on
>> computer B with the rules that are on computer A?

> On computer A:
> - Locate your MAIL directory, if you don't already
> know where it is:
>   -  On  TB's  menu,  select
> Options/Preferences/System and your  MAIL
>   directory will show there.
> -  On  the MAIL directory, locate the
> folder/directory with the name
>   of your account.
> -  In  this folder, locate a file named ACCOUNT.SRB
> This is the file
>   that contains all filters for that account.

> This  ACCOUNT.SRB  file  is  the  one  that  you have
> to copy OVER the
> corresponding one in computer B.  


You could take the opportunity to change them all to Common Filters.I 
made this change several years ago and found it a much more 
satisfactory arrangement: it enabled me to eliminate swathes of 
very similar filters by using the same ones on multiple accounts, it 
left filters intact when accounts are deleted, and it allows the use 
of existing filters with new accounts. (Of course, YMMV.)


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Re: copying filter rules from computer A to computer B

[MAU]

Hello Avram,

> Is there a way I can replace the filters rules for that account on
> computer B with the rules that are on computer A?

On computer A:
- Locate your MAIL directory, if you don't already know where it is:
  -  On  TB's  menu,  select Options/Preferences/System and your  MAIL
  directory will show there.
-  On  the MAIL directory, locate the folder/directory with the name
  of your account.
-  In  this folder, locate a file named ACCOUNT.SRB This is the file
  that contains all filters for that account.

This  ACCOUNT.SRB  file  is  the  one  that  you have to copy OVER the
corresponding one in computer B.

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copying filter rules from computer A to computer B

[Avram Sacks]

Hi, 

I run The Bat, separately, on two computers, both of which are connected via a 
local network.  Each installation of the The Bat receives the same mail.

I have a number of mail accounts running on The Bat.   One account, which I use 
for all third party vendors, internet requests for an e-mail address, etc, 
filters all of its inbox mail into one of 25 different folders, some of which 
have dozens of rules.  One has as many as 99!  I don't want to have to 
laboriously copy each one, one by one to the other machine.   Is there a way I 
can replace the filters rules for that account on computer B with the rules 
that are on computer A?Note that computer B is running Win 7 Home and The 
Bat ver 6.0.99.   When I tried to upgrade it to ver 7, I nearly lost the 
database, the restore from a backup was only partially successful, so I am 
loathe to try upgrading a second time on that computer. 
 
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Re[2]: Best spam filter for TB!

[Paul Van Noord]

11/28/2016  1:56 PM

Hi Arkadiusz,

On 11/28/2016 Arkadiusz Gawlik wrote:

AG> Hello Jack,

AG> On Monday, November 28, 2016 at 5:35:21 PM, you wrote in subject of "Best 
spam filter for TB!":

JSL>> Anyway, the long and short of this message is a request to learn what 
this group
JSL>> thinks is a good spam filter for TB! today. We are both running v6.xx and
JSL>> Windows 10.

AG> I am using AntispamSniper for TheBat! (a paid version).
AG> I've used it on Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows 8 and now Windows 10
AG> and various TB! versions without any issues.

I agree. Been using it for years. It just works.

- --
Paul

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Re: Best spam filter for TB!

[Arkadiusz Gawlik]

Hello Jack,

On Monday, November 28, 2016 at 5:35:21 PM, you wrote in subject of "Best spam 
filter for TB!":

JSL> Anyway, the long and short of this message is a request to learn what this 
group
JSL> thinks is a good spam filter for TB! today. We are both running v6.xx and
JSL> Windows 10.

I am using AntispamSniper for TheBat! (a paid version).
I've used it on Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows 8 and now Windows 10
and various TB! versions without any issues.

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Filter on 'Header Field' in Virual Folders?

[RD]

TB! version 6.7.2 and windows
6/1/7601

Hello TBUDL:
I have a new Virtual Folder which collects notifications of new versions
of Apps from various lists to which I belong.

Some developers have a Header Field called X-Sender.

 I'd like to make the Virtual Folder look at Header-Fields as well as
the regular Header choice. This feature is present in other Filters
elsewhere in TB!

Can we have it in Virtual Folders?

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Re: Filter on 'Header Field' in Virual Folders?

[MFPA]

Hi


On Monday 1 December 2014 at 4:27:44 PM, in
mid:1029546671.20141201112...@denstarfarm.us, RD wrote:


 TB! version 6.7.2 and windows 6/1/7601

 Hello TBUDL: I have a new Virtual Folder which collects
 notifications of new versions of Apps from various
 lists to which I belong.

 Some developers have a Header Field called X-Sender.

  I'd like to make the Virtual Folder look at
 Header-Fields as well as the regular Header choice.
 This feature is present in other Filters elsewhere in
 TB!

 Can we have it in Virtual Folders?  

Whilst developers do occasionally participate in this list, the 
official place for feature requests is https://bt.ritlabs.com. 

Just out of interest, could you match X-Sender: Some Data using

Header
Contains
X-Sender: Some Data
?


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Re: Filter manipulation

[Adrian Godfrey]

Sunday, July 6, 2014, 3:03:17 AM, you wrote:

 I don't understand why RITlabs don't make all filters into Common 
 Filters, with the per-account filters views just showing the 
 Common Filters currently ticked for that account.

Perhaps they will in one of the next versions of The Bat.

I've  never  understood the per account. Maybe it's useful for those
who  only  have  one or two email addresses strictly separated so that
business-related and private only know one of them.

In  my  case,  I tend to filter on things other than which address the
mail was actually sent to, usually from but sometimes subject. That means 
almost every filter is _one_ common
filter, otherwise I have to copy and paste the same filter into every
account.

My  immediate  issue here is exceptional. I only used that address for
LinkedIn  groups  and  it  bore absolutely no relation (apart from the
domain)  to any of my other email addresses. I thought I was safe with
account-specific  filters for this. Quite apart from LinkedIn ignoring
whatever  address  you  specify  for  the  groups,  the  format of the
messages  changed  as well so all the filter conditions were broken as
well as not sending to the expected address.

It's  not  only  The Bat. I don't think any email client lets you edit
filters using any text editor.

Adrian

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Re: Filter manipulation

[MFPA]

Hi


On Thursday 3 July 2014 at 12:53:11 PM, in
mid:1376411768.20140703135...@ags.lu, Adrian Godfrey wrote:


 Is  there  a  way to copy and paste ALL filters (or at
 least more than one  at  a  time)  associated with a
 specific email address to common filtera?


As far as I know there is no way to do this within the TB! interface 
other than one at a time. 

But if _ALL_ your filters are under a single account and none under
Common Filters, I suspect you could probably copy the file that stores
them and paste it into the correct location for common filters. I was
thinking I had done this with filters, but on checking I find it was
with Quick Templates.



 I  really  should  have  put  those filters in common
 filters in the first place.

I don't understand why RITlabs don't make all filters into Common 
Filters, with the per-account filters views just showing the 
Common Filters currently ticked for that account.

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Filter manipulation

[Adrian Godfrey]

Is  there  a  way to copy and paste ALL filters (or at least more than
one  at  a  time)  associated with a specific email address to common
filtera?

The  background  is I had LinkedIn groups  (NOT digests) set up to send to a 
specific
email  address and not my primary one. LinkedIn seems to be broken and
is ignoring this setting in ALL groups!

I  really  should  have  put  those filters in common filters in the
first place.

I have The Bat version 6.3.2 Professional installed

Thanks in advance

Adrian
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Re: Floating filter box

[Jack]

A I disabled some menus and now I get a white box hovering over the
A incoming messages. If I type something into the box and press enter,
A a tab is added to the bottom of the message area named Filter and the
A messages are filtered based on what I type in.

RO I guess that's the quick search toolbar, either disable it via the
RO menu or drag it back to the menu section.

The quick search is one of the menus I disabled before this happened
so you may be correct. Currently, I have it unchecked. If I check it
in the configuration, it appears in the menu bar but the blank box is
still there. The blank box isn't draggable and there's not a close
option in it if I right-click.


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Floating filter box

[Jack]

Hi,

I disabled some menus and now I get a white box hovering over the
incoming messages. If I type something into the box and press enter,
a tab is added to the bottom of the message area named Filter and the
messages are filtered based on what I type in. I looked at the menu
setup but can't see where that is coming from. I tried re-booting
thinking something was hung-up but the box is still there. Does anyone
know how to get rid of this?


Using version 4.2.44.2
  

-- 
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Re: Floating filter box

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Jack,

On Thu, 2 May 2013 11:19:59 -0400GMT (2-5-2013, 17:19 , where I
live), you wrote:

A I disabled some menus and now I get a white box hovering over the
A incoming messages. If I type something into the box and press enter,
A a tab is added to the bottom of the message area named Filter and the
A messages are filtered based on what I type in.

I guess that's the quick search toolbar, either disable it via the
menu or drag it back to the menu section.

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Re: occasional filter failures + missing data

[Achdut18]

Hello Roelof,

Wednesday, October 24, 2012, 3:46:43 AM, you wrote:

RO Hallo Avram,

RO On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 03:29:41 -0500GMT (23-10-2012, 10:29 , where I
RO live), you wrote:

RO It's using the same message base, is that by using the same mail
RO directory or is it using a local mail directory with some extra
RO pointing to specific account folders?
RO You can check that by searching for the mail directory.
RO The place where you configure where your mail directory is located is:
RO  Options - Preferences - System - Mail Directory

To review: I asked why messages for two of 14 e-mail accounts do not get 
properly filtered into subfolders in those accounts and noted that on a laptop 
attached to the network, those subfolders show zero messages.  I was able to 
determine that the laptop's mail comes in from the hard drive of the desktop.  
Although it would appear that the laptop is not using a local mail directory, 
and instead, points directly to the desktop's hard drive,  when mail is 
downloaded on to the laptop, that has previously been downloaded on to the main 
pc, that mail appears in duplicate.  Not sure why. 

-- 
Avi
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Re: occasional filter failures + missing data

[Robert D.]

Hello Thomas, Avram,

Monday, October 29, 2012, 9:57:10 PM, you wrote:

AS However, within the past 5-6 months, I have observed that a small
AS number of messages for those accounts do not get filtered




TF While I have not experienced this myself, I have heard about it. For
TF some of the 4.x versions. In fact, this appears to be solved in later
TF versions, I have not heard anybody complain about this when using a
TF 5.x version.



FWIW, I am using 5.2 and, as of this morning's imap mail login. I ended
up with 65 New messages from one of my  5 active accounts remaining in
the Inbox.

I highlighted the Inbox and selected to Re-Filter. Then all were
filtered into their respective Common folders.

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Re: occasional filter failures + missing data

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Robert,

Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 5:46:38 PM, you wrote:

AS However, within the past 5-6 months, I have observed that a small
AS number of messages for those accounts do not get filtered

TF While I have not experienced this myself, I have heard about it. For
TF some of the 4.x versions. In fact, this appears to be solved in later
TF versions, I have not heard anybody complain about this when using a
TF 5.x version.

RD FWIW, I am using 5.2 and, as of this morning's imap mail login. I ended
RD up with 65 New messages from one of my  5 active accounts remaining in
RD the Inbox.

OK, so this is about IMAP. I didn't see that in the OP. Different
animal, I am not using IMAP, so cannot comment.

RD I highlighted the Inbox and selected to Re-Filter. Then all were
RD filtered into their respective Common folders.

-- 

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Re: occasional filter failures + missing data

[Robert D.]

Hello Thomas,

Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 11:16:57 AM, you wrote:

 Hello Robert,


 OK, so this is about IMAP. I didn't see that in the OP. Different
 animal, I am not using IMAP, so cannot comment.

oh, I really don't know  if it is, or isn't. I was thinking it was more
about Filters. But maybe it's an IMAP thing. We need an RIT Programmer
and a large bottle Vodka so we can find the answer after we talk/drink
about it.



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Re: occasional filter failures + missing data

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Avram,

Sunday, October 21, 2012, 9:58:22 AM, you wrote:

AS However, within the past 5-6 months, I have observed that a small
AS number of messages for those accounts do not get filtered with
AS each mail download and remain in an account's inbox until I use
AS the re-filter tool to properly distribute those messages. In each
AS case, the non-filtered messages belong in the last active folder
AS (or folders) in the list of that account's folders.

While I have not experienced this myself, I have heard about it. For
some of the 4.x versions. In fact, this appears to be solved in later
versions, I have not heard anybody complain about this when using a
5.x version.

Would you consider trialing it?

-- 

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Re: occasional filter failures + missing data

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello MFPA,

Monday, October 22, 2012, 7:38:39 AM, you wrote:

M From time to time I get messages left in the inbox, or sometimes moved
M to the wrong folder by the filters. I have not been able to find any 
M pattern to this at all.

I have experienced message moved to the wrong folder. Mostly this was
when I had been away from my PC for a week or two, and there were over
1,000 incoming messages to filter. Alas, this has not happened with
version 5.x.

Whatever bug there was in the past, I cannot confirm it any more.

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Re: Inbox Filter on IMAP Acct inconsistent

[Peter Fjelsten]

Robert,

On 26-10-2012 13:41, you wrote in
mid:1138754231.20121026074...@denstarfarm.us:
 When I highlight the particular account's Inbox and right-click and
 choose to Re-Filter, all the evil miscreant messages are moved to their
 respective Sorted-Folder.

 Go Figure.  Anyone have a viable solution?

Wait for a fix like the rest of us have been doing for a couple of years.

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Re: Inbox Filter on IMAP Acct inconsistent

[Robert D.]

Hello Peter,

Monday, October 29, 2012, 2:57:59 PM, you wrote:

 Robert,

 When I highlight the particular account's Inbox and right-click and
 choose to Re-Filter, all the evil miscreant messages are moved...

 Wait for a fix like the rest of us have been doing for a couple of years.

something's fishy in Denmark ...


I have always wanted to find a context in which I could say that line.

Gee, thanks Peter!!

Although maybe you've never heard it spoken. Then it isn't very funny.

And, frankly, despite the Filter problem stinking, I have no idea who
first said it, nor where it was said.

Melissa is my go-to-person for such technical structural grammatik
questions.

So the upshot is,  this is a subtly known problem. That helps my mind
anyway.

Today I clicked on a message which refused to, first-time-filter, and
create filter ...

I named the filter zb, LGD-1, telling me it was the second time I have
tried to filter Messages there.

So, knock on wood, the two miscreant Folders, their respective filters
from the same account's email-inbox, are, so far, being filtered.

Oddly, each (-1) filter created by TB is, word-for-word the same as the
one I had previously concocted.

Now I don't know which Filter, the newly created ((-1) or the firmer, is
tripping the Filter.

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Re: occasional filter failures + missing data

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Avram,

Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 3:43:16 AM, you wrote:


AS However, within the past 5-6 months, I have observed that a small
AS number of messages for those accounts do not get filtered with
AS each mail download and remain in an account's inbox until I use
AS the re-filter tool to properly distribute those messages. In each
AS case, the non-filtered messages belong in the last active folder
AS (or folders) in the list of that account's folders.

TF While I have not experienced this myself, I have heard about it. For
TF some of the 4.x versions. In fact, this appears to be solved in later
TF versions, I have not heard anybody complain about this when using a
TF 5.x version.

TF Would you consider trialing it?


Yes.  What is involved?



Make a backup of your mails by using Tools / Backup.

Download the current TB! version from the Ritlabs website and install it. It 
will be a 30-day trial version.

If you like it, you can pay for the upgrade. If not, you make another backup 
(to include the mails have have been downloaded during your trial) and then 
re-install the 4.x version for which you already have the key. Note that v5 has 
some changes in the way the date and time of the messages is kept, so you will 
likely encounter an off-set in accordance with your time zone.

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Inbox Filter on IMAP Acct inconsistent

[Robert D.]

I still have the same problem with my

Inbox Filter, on one of 5, IMAP Accts being rather inconsistent about
filtering the incoming messages and moving them to a Common-Folder.

Of the other IMAP accounts, these filters are seemingly the same. A
message comes into myn...@mydomain.net; gets compared to address-groups
then moved to one of a few Common Folders.

This works for the mydomai...@mydomain.net as-well-as
mydomai...@mydomain.net.

Furthermore, the same incoming comparisons works (also IMAP) for
myn...@their-domain.net on two other accts.

When I highlight the particular account's Inbox and right-click and
choose to Re-Filter, all the evil miscreant messages are moved to their
respective Sorted-Folder.

Go Figure.  Anyone have a viable solution?


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Re: Inbox Filter on IMAP Acct inconsistent

[Rick]

RD I still have the same problem with my

RD Inbox Filter, on one of 5, IMAP Accts being rather inconsistent about
RD filtering the incoming messages and moving them to a Common-Folder.

RD Of the other IMAP accounts, these filters are seemingly the same. A
RD message comes into myn...@mydomain.net; gets compared to address-groups
RD then moved to one of a few Common Folders.

RD This works for the mydomai...@mydomain.net as-well-as
RD mydomai...@mydomain.net.

RD Furthermore, the same incoming comparisons works (also IMAP) for
RD myn...@their-domain.net on two other accts.

RD When I highlight the particular account's Inbox and right-click and
RD choose to Re-Filter, all the evil miscreant messages are moved to their
RD respective Sorted-Folder.

RD Go Figure.  Anyone have a viable solution?

I  have  had that on rare occasions, but can't reproduce it at will. I
can't  help  on  that other than to suggest seeing what happens if you
rearrange the order of the filters

-- 
Rick
Forgiveness is the fragrance the violet sheds on the heel that has crushed it. 
- Mark Twain

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Re: Inbox Filter on IMAP Acct inconsistent

[Robert D.]

Hello Rick,

Friday, October 26, 2012, 9:01:43 AM, you wrote:

 I  have  had that on rare occasions, but can't reproduce it at will. I
 can't  help  on  that other than to suggest seeing what happens if you
 rearrange the order of the filters

Sure. I can try that. I've certainly tried many other things and can't,
so far, stop it. The Gripe is that running Re Filter works every
time.


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 Robert



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Re: occasional filter failures + missing data

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Avram,

On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 03:29:41 -0500GMT (23-10-2012, 10:29 , where I
live), you wrote:

RO It's using the same message base, is that by using the same mail
RO directory or is it using a local mail directory with some extra
RO pointing to specific account folders?

A I am not sure.

You can check that by searching for the mail directory.
The place where you configure where your mail directory is located is:
 Options - Preferences - System - Mail Directory

-- 
Groetjes, Roelof

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Re: occasional filter failures + missing data

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Avram,

On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:58:22 -0500GMT (21-10-2012, 4:58 , where I
live), you wrote:

A However, within the past 5-6 months, I have observed that a small
A number of messages for those accounts do not get filtered with each
A mail download and remain in an account's inbox until I use the
A re-filter tool to properly distribute those messages. In each case,
A the non-filtered messages belong in the last active folder (or
A folders) in the list of that account's folders.

Are those pop3 or imap accounts?
In case they're imap accounts, you could consider deleting the imap
cache.
You're using v4.2.44. Have you considered upgrading to v5.0.36 that's
the last version that should work with a v4 license.
(http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/archive_versions/)

Is the laptop that accesses the same message base using the same
version?
It's using the same message base, is that by using the same mail
directory or is it using a local mail directory with some extra
pointing to specific account folders?

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Re: occasional filter failures + missing data

[Achdut18]

Hello Roelof,

Thanks for your response.  See my comments below

Tuesday, October 23, 2012, 1:56:28 AM, you wrote:


A However, within the past 5-6 months, I have observed that a small
A number of messages for those accounts do not get filtered with each
A mail download and remain in an account's inbox until I use the
A re-filter tool to properly distribute those messages. 

RO Are those pop3 or imap accounts?

These are pop3 accounts

RO You're using v4.2.44. Have you considered upgrading to v5.0.36 that's
RO the last version that should work with a v4 license.
RO (http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/archive_versions/)

Thanks.  I hadn't considered it, but I will now. :-)

RO Is the laptop that accesses the same message base using the same
RO version?

Yes

RO It's using the same message base, is that by using the same mail
RO directory or is it using a local mail directory with some extra
RO pointing to specific account folders?

I am not sure. I thought it was using the same message base.  But, concurrent 
with this problem, I have observed that one subfolder in each of two separate 
mail accounts show zero messages on the laptop, while the thousands of 
messages in these subfolders are all in place on the desktop computer.   Could 
that be a sign that a local mail directory is used, with extra pointers to 
specific folders?   If so, how do I fix this?


-- 
Avi
Avram Sacks
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Re: occasional filter failures + missing data

[MFPA]

Hi


On Sunday 21 October 2012 at 3:58:22 AM, in
mid:439652351.20121020215...@gmail.com, Avram Sacks wrote:


 I have observed that a small number of messages
 for those accounts do not get filtered with each mail
 download and remain in an account's inbox until I use
 the re-filter tool to properly distribute those
 messages. 

From time to time I get messages left in the inbox, or sometimes moved 
to the wrong folder by the filters. I have not been able to find any 
pattern to this at all.



 Clearly, there is nothing wrong with the filter: use of
 the re-filter tool ultimately results in proper
 distribution of the messages.  

Same here.



 Could the problem
 possibly be related to there only being 1.25 GB of
 useable free space remaining on the hard drive, or, is
 some other issue causing this problem?  

My mail is on a 10 GB partition that currently reports 2.49 GB free 
space.


-- 
Best regards

MFPAmailto:expires2...@rocketmail.com

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Inbox Filter works sometimes

[Robert D.]

This is very, very annoying.
One of my three accounts refuses to filter All of the messages which
come in. Some are left in the Inbox until I select Folder/Re-Filter .
Then the remaining move to respective common folders.

I ee no common fault in the construction of each of ten filters in the
affected Account. I use the same three or four filters in many, many
other Inbox filters. For example IF Header-Field has X-Original-To = to
TBUDL then move to common folder Bat ... just for-example

My point is thse filters work sometimes and other times they fail until a
re-filter.

No filters contain Continue On ... . All are set for Inbox

Using Ver 5.2

--
Bob D.



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Fwd: Re: occasional filter failures + missing data

[Суперпласт, ООО]

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Кому: Avram Sacks tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com
Дата: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 08:53:21 -0400
Тема: Re: occasional filter failures + missing data






Hello Avram,

Saturday, October 20, 2012, 10:58:22 PM, you wrote:

  I have
 observed that a small number of messages for those accounts do not get
 filtered with each mail download and remain in an account's inbox
 until I use the re-filter tool to properly distribute those messages. 


Yes! Thanks for writing about that. I hope there is an answer.

I have one, of three, account, all of which are different accounts of my
own domain. One of those consistently leaves some messages in INBOX until
I re-filter, w/o having made changes to the existing Filters.

Confounds me.
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--

С Уважением,
ООО СУПЕРПЛАСТ, Москва

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Re: occasional filter failures + missing data

[Robert D.]

Hello Avram,

Saturday, October 20, 2012, 10:58:22 PM, you wrote:

  I have
 observed that a small number of messages for those accounts do not get
 filtered with each mail download and remain in an account's inbox
 until I use the re-filter tool to properly distribute those messages. 


Yes! Thanks for writing about that. I hope there is an answer.

I have one, of three, account, all of which are different accounts of my
own domain. One of those consistently leaves some messages in INBOX until
I re-filter, w/o having made changes to the existing Filters.

Confounds me.
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 Robert



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occasional filter failures + missing data

[Avram Sacks]

Hi, all,

I use The Bat to manage 14 separate e-mail accounts that come, collectively, 
from three separate domain servers.   Of those accounts, three--all of which 
are G-mail accounts--use filters to distribute mail into a number of 
subfolders.  I have used these filters for years without incident.  However, 
within the past 5-6 months, I have observed that a small number of messages for 
those accounts do not get filtered with each mail download and remain in an 
account's inbox until I use the re-filter tool to properly distribute those 
messages.  In each case, the non-filtered messages belong in the last active 
folder (or folders) in the list of that account's folders.

Clearly, there is nothing wrong with the filter: use of the re-filter tool 
ultimately results in proper distribution of the messages.  Could the problem 
possibly be related to there only being 1.25 GB of useable free space remaining 
on the hard drive, or, is some other issue causing this problem?  While the 
mail folder has a total of 10GB of data, the three mail accounts in question 
only have 677 MB, 710 MB, and 1.67 GB of data.

Perhaps related to this problem is a secondary issue:  the same folders into 
which some of the mail is not being filtered, display zero messages on the 
second computer on our home network.  That computer is a 2-yr old laptop with 
lots of free space.  Mail folders on that computer point to the mail folders on 
the primary computer for mail downloads.  How can I fix this?

-- 
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Re: SPAM Filter

[Steven P Vallière]

Jeff,

If the TB4 plug-ins are compatible with TB5, you might want
to take a look at the Regula Anti-spam plug-in.  I've been
using it ever since my mail server went to STARTLS (which
broke POPfile) about six months ago.  After a bit of training
Regula seems to be doing a good job of catching the spam that
gets through the mail server's filters.

http://www.gaijin.at/en/tbpregula.php


-- 
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--
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SPAM Filter

[Jeff Gaines]

Hello Group

I've  been away from Windows for a while but I'm now back home with XP
x64 and TheBat v 5.0.34.

I see we no longer have the BayesIT (? spelling) plug in for a variety
of reasons.

What  do  people use/recommend in its place? It's useful to be able to
identify SPAM and have it moved to a junk folder.

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Re: SPAM Filter

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Jeff,

On Wednesday, February 29, 2012 you wrote:

JG Hello Group

JG I've  been away from Windows for a while but I'm now back home with XP
JG x64 and TheBat v 5.0.34.

JG I see we no longer have the BayesIT (? spelling) plug in for a variety
JG of reasons.

JG What  do  people use/recommend in its place? It's useful to be able to
JG identify SPAM and have it moved to a junk folder.

Years ago a similar question was asked and the suggestion at
that time was K9 from KEIR.NET which I have used ever since
with great success. It's a Bayesian (sp?) filter which will
tag spam with the word SPAM in the subject line. From there
you can create a filter to move it to another folder.

-- 
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Re: Filter not working

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Greg,

Op woensdag 28 december 2011, 1:37:13, schreef Greg Strong:

 I have a filter not working when using Folder  Re-filter . See
 below in quote box.

I altered the target folder and for me the filter functioned properly.
Though  at first it didn't because the test message was intercepted by
another  filter,  that  didn't  move  the  filter,  but  merely  added
something to the address book.
Therefore  you'd  better check your log to see whether your message(s)
is/are triggered by a filter that's listed above this one.


  I believe the last license purchase was for V4. Is
 this functionality just broke, or am I looking at having to purchase a
 new license? If my memory is correct, I thought the license for
 version 4 was good for V5.0,

Unless  you  get  a  pop-up  about an expired license or an evaluation
period, your registration is still valid.

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Re: Another filter question

[Barry]

On 31/05/2011 21:09:38, Barry wrote:
 Thomas Fernandez thomas.gm...@gmx.net wrote:
 Hello Barry,

 On Tue, 31 May 2011 14:35:05 +0100 GMT (31/May/11, 20:35 PM +0700 GMT),
 Barry wrote:

 This has worked well for a long time but since the upgrade to V5 has stopped
 functioning properly, it's almost as if the message is parked before it is
 moved so I end up with the original in the Inbox marked as Read and Parked
 with a copy being put in the other folder also marked as Read and Parked.

 Any ideas? Or is it another bug?

 There have been reports of bugs in the filtering system of v5 on the
 beta list. However, they are no reliably reproducable, meaning that
 some people report a problem, and other people say the filters work
 correctly. Soi it's difficult for the developers to pinpoint and fix.
 (I myself stick with v4 for this reason.)

 Are you using POP or IMAP? I just browsed the bug reports and am
 trying to find your exact problem, so far without success.
 
 I use both POP and IMAP accounts, but in this case I am using a POP
 account.

Hi Thomas

The problem seems to lie with the action of parking the message. If I remove
that action from the filter then all works OK. If I include the action to
park the message then the original message remains in the Inbox with the Park
flag set.

So I guess it's a buglet?

-- 
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barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk

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Re: Another filter question

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Barry,

On Wed, 1 Jun 2011 11:51:36 +0100 GMT (01/Jun/11, 17:51 PM +0700 GMT),
Barry wrote:

 This has worked well for a long time but since the upgrade to V5 has 
 stopped
 functioning properly, it's almost as if the message is parked before it is
 moved so I end up with the original in the Inbox marked as Read and Parked
 with a copy being put in the other folder also marked as Read and Parked.

 Any ideas? Or is it another bug?

 Are you using POP or IMAP? I just browsed the bug reports and am
 trying to find your exact problem, so far without success.
B  
 I use both POP and IMAP accounts, but in this case I am using a POP
 account.

B Hi Thomas

B The problem seems to lie with the action of parking the message. If I remove
B that action from the filter then all works OK. If I include the action to
B park the message then the original message remains in the Inbox with the Park
B flag set.

B So I guess it's a buglet?

Let me post this on the beta list.

-- 

Cheers,
Thomas.

http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/

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