Revolution license
I have just red "Using Revolution with Filemaker Pro" and Bill mentions that the Revolution license simply asks you to put one line, "Portions (c)2000-2008 Runtime Revolution Limited, All Rights Reserved Worldwide" below your own copyright notice... Does this mean any program that I distribute should have this lengthy copyright notice or otherwise I am violating the terms and conditions of the Run Rev license ? If I put my copyright notice on a splash- screen then does this mean that Revolution's copyright notice should appear next ? Isn't it all right to mention "Created with Revolution" with a link to runrev.com somewhere deeper (in "about" section or end user license agreement). In some cases I would also prefer not to reveal any technical details on how my app was created. Isn't it enough then create a link to Runtime Revolution's website from my own website (I promise to do this) without explicitly disclosing technologies used for each particular application? All the best! Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: how to adress the object name and not the number?
Good point Bill. Thanks for sharing! Tiemo > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use-revolution- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Bill Marriott > Gesendet: Freitag, 20. April 2007 02:14 > An: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Betreff: Re: how to adress the object name and not the number? > > The recommendation to name objects starting with a letter and then a > number > is simply a "must" because as others have pointed out there can be > ambiguity > when referencing objects named with simply a number. Two additions to the > excellent ideas: > > 1) Remember that the object number always refers to its layer. Lower- > numbers > are below higher-numbered ones. > > 2) I have found it very helpful to insert a space before the prefix and > the > number when naming objects sequentially -- e.g.: "Cell 1" rather than > "Cell1" -- because then it's a lot easier to find out what number you've > given that object using Rev's "word" chunk later on. > > For example, suppose you've created an array of fields this way: > > put "Qty,Part Number,Description,Unit Price,Extended Price" into > theHeaders > repeat for each item columnName in theHeaders > repeat with i = 1 to 20 > put columnName && i into thisCell -- the && concatenates with a > space > between > create fld thisCell > set the rect of fld thisCell to \ > startLefts[columnName],rowHeight * > (i-1),startLefts[columnName]+colWidths[columnName],rowHeight * i > set the lockText of fld thisCell to true > end repeat > end repeat > > (Leaving out setup of the arrays) Then, when someone clicks on one of the > cells, you can hilight the entire row very simply with this script in the > group: > > on mouseup >put the last word of the short name of the target into theLine >repeat for each item columnName in theHeaders > put columnName && theLine into thisCell > set the backgroundColor of fld thisCell to yellow >end repeat > end mouseup > > or, less verbosely, > > on mouseup > repeat for each item c in theHeaders > set fillBack of fld (c && last word of short name of target) to > yellow > end repeat > end mouseup > > By using "the last word" you've gotten the number of the corresponding > elements painlessly. > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: is there a more clever way to see if revOpenDatabases() contains a valid value?
Interesting... Thanks for the info! On Apr 19, 2007, at 8:53 PM, Ken Ray wrote: On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 17:59:40 -0700, Josh Mellicker wrote: If I revCloseDatabases() or resetAll and establish a new connection before making any database command all is fine, but I am thinking this is an inefficient approach... or is it? So I am wondering if there is any clever way, perhaps through checking sockets or other network wizardry, to verify a valid MySQL database connection before actually executing a database command? Well, the way we do it is to bundle mySQLAdmin with our app. Then, whenever we are about to execute a DB command, we use the "ping" command-line call to mySQLAdmin which should return "mysqld is alive". If it doesn't, we respond with a Server Disconnected error, or automatically go into a loop until the "ping" shows it's alive or a certain timeout has expired. Here's the basic call to mysqladmin: --host= --port= -- user= --password= ping as in (for Mac OS X): put "/Users/kenray/Applications/MyApp/support/mysqladmin" into tAdmin put tAdmin && "--host=255.255.255.255 --port=3631 --user=ken --password=password ping" into tCmd put shell(tCmd) into tResult return (tResult <> "mysqld is alive") HTH, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: millisec test timings and screen refresh rate
Phil Davis wrote: Thanks everyone. But... Let me put my question another way: on mouseUp # lock screen -- aka "lock #1" wait 1 second show img 1 # unlock screen -- also part of lock #1 put the milliseconds into tStart wait 5 milliseconds # lock screen -- aka "lock #2" hide img 1 #unlock screen -- also part of lock #2 put the milliseconds - tStart & cr after fld 1 set the vScroll of fld 1 to the formattedHeight of fld 1 put (the number of lines in fld 1) into fld 2 end mouseUp I ran the above script x times and got these results on my Apple 20" cinema display & intel mini: - 50x with no locks/unlocks = 24% of times I saw the img - 50x with lock #1 = 20% of times I saw the img - 50x with lock #1 & #2 = 36% of times I saw the img Ideally I would see the image 100% of the time - that's my goal. I'll experiment with the other methods of displaying the image and see if I can improve my results. I wonder if it would make a difference to change the wait command to "wait...with messages". I believe the "with messages" option frees up cycles to the OS, which helps it refresh. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: millisec test timings and screen refresh rate
Thanks everyone. But... Let me put my question another way: on mouseUp # lock screen -- aka "lock #1" wait 1 second show img 1 # unlock screen -- also part of lock #1 put the milliseconds into tStart wait 5 milliseconds # lock screen -- aka "lock #2" hide img 1 #unlock screen -- also part of lock #2 put the milliseconds - tStart & cr after fld 1 set the vScroll of fld 1 to the formattedHeight of fld 1 put (the number of lines in fld 1) into fld 2 end mouseUp I ran the above script x times and got these results on my Apple 20" cinema display & intel mini: - 50x with no locks/unlocks = 24% of times I saw the img - 50x with lock #1 = 20% of times I saw the img - 50x with lock #1 & #2 = 36% of times I saw the img Ideally I would see the image 100% of the time - that's my goal. I'll experiment with the other methods of displaying the image and see if I can improve my results. Thanks - Phil Davis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 5:19 PM Subject: millisec test timings and screen refresh rate I need some help here. My question is basically this: How do I accurately track or calculate the exact moment at which an image becomes visible on screen? I have a client whose product is a psychological testing app, with a battery of canned tests included. I'm reimplementing it in RunRev, moving them away from SuperCard + a large handful of XCMDs. All the millisecond timing used to be done in the XCMDs, but now RunRev can do it natively, and on all platforms... wait, I don't need to sell you... sorry. ;o) Some tests require the Rev app to track the millisecs elapsed from when an image is displayed on screen to when a user-initiated event occurs, like a keypress. This means RR needs to know as precisely as possible *when* the image became visible on screen. (I can already hear some people shifting in their seats, muttering "duh! just show the image, unlock screen and put the millisecs into a variable!") Is it that simple? I assume not. I need to figure out when the image became visible, not when I told it to become visible. I'll need to factor in screen refresh rate, whether testing is displayed on a CRT or on a laptop (the normal delivery medium). This also leads me to ask: Do laptop screens refresh the same way CRTs refresh? I doubt it. How have you dealt with this in your RunRev experience? I bet *someone* has dealt with this before. Thanks in advance for all responses. This list is so great! Phil Davis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Resize a Group Without Moving Objects
Hey, Is it possible to set the rect of a group, without moving the objects inside the group around? Whenever I modify the size of a group, the groups loc will change a little, and the objects inside it will move also, is there any way to go around that? TTFN Bridger Maxwell Fiery Ferret ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: SecuROM copy protection and Rev
Well, according to their documentation the executable is modified somehow (there is a desktop tool available for modifying Windows executables but you have to send Mac apps away to some dudes in Austria), which is why I'm curious. You'll have to experiment. I've had zero success wrapping Rev standalones. Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: how to adress the object name and not the number?
Jim Ault wrote: by not using spaces in field names, you do not have to use quotes, such as put 451 into fld cellValue01 vs fld "cellValue 1" Just a caution that this may come back to bite you some day if (or perhaps, when) Rev ever gets pickier about unquoted literals. Unquoted literals also take longer to execute in scripts. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: is there a more clever way to see if revOpenDatabases() contains a valid value?
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 17:59:40 -0700, Josh Mellicker wrote: > If I revCloseDatabases() or resetAll and establish a new connection > before making any database command all is fine, but I am thinking > this is an inefficient approach... or is it? > > > So I am wondering if there is any clever way, perhaps through > checking sockets or other network wizardry, to verify a valid MySQL > database connection before actually executing a database command? Well, the way we do it is to bundle mySQLAdmin with our app. Then, whenever we are about to execute a DB command, we use the "ping" command-line call to mySQLAdmin which should return "mysqld is alive". If it doesn't, we respond with a Server Disconnected error, or automatically go into a loop until the "ping" shows it's alive or a certain timeout has expired. Here's the basic call to mysqladmin: --host= --port= --user= --password= ping as in (for Mac OS X): put "/Users/kenray/Applications/MyApp/support/mysqladmin" into tAdmin put tAdmin && "--host=255.255.255.255 --port=3631 --user=ken --password=password ping" into tCmd put shell(tCmd) into tResult return (tResult <> "mysqld is alive") HTH, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: SecuROM copy protection and Rev
>> The SecuROM copy protection has been requested by a client so that's the >> way >> we have to go. We've used SecuROM with Director applications before >> without >> any problems but they (Director apps) are 'officially' supported within >> the >> encryption process. 'Standard' Windows and Mac apps are supposed to work >> just as well but you never know. I just wondered whether anyone had a >> actually used the process with Rev standalones. > > Fair enough. As long as the standalone isn't modified you should not have > to many problems. > > Scott Well, according to their documentation the executable is modified somehow (there is a desktop tool available for modifying Windows executables but you have to send Mac apps away to some dudes in Austria), which is why I'm curious. Terry... -- Dr Terry Judd Lecturer in Educational Technology (Design) Biomedical Multimedia Unit Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry & Health Sciences The University of Melbourne Parkville VIC 3052 AUSTRALIA 61-3 8344 0187 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: SecuROM copy protection and Rev
Original Message - The SecuROM copy protection has been requested by a client so that's the way we have to go. We've used SecuROM with Director applications before without any problems but they (Director apps) are 'officially' supported within the encryption process. 'Standard' Windows and Mac apps are supposed to work just as well but you never know. I just wondered whether anyone had a actually used the process with Rev standalones. Fair enough. As long as the standalone isn't modified you should not have to many problems. Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: millisec test timings and screen refresh rate
Phil, LCDs got a bad reputation for speed ten years ago. They are much improved now. For instance modern LCD TVs are fast enough to display action scenes without blur. To see how much they have improved just move your mouse around the screen; you probably won't see any "submarining" at all. Of course there is some speed difference among screens - at the millisecond level. Would it work better, for your purposes, to have the test screen appear behind a blocking screen, then, instead of making the original screen appear, make the blocking screen disappear? Might be faster and more predictable. Paul Looney -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 5:19 PM Subject: millisec test timings and screen refresh rate I need some help here. My question is basically this: How do I accurately track or calculate the exact moment at which an image becomes visible on screen? I have a client whose product is a psychological testing app, with a battery of canned tests included. I'm reimplementing it in RunRev, moving them away from SuperCard + a large handful of XCMDs. All the millisecond timing used to be done in the XCMDs, but now RunRev can do it natively, and on all platforms... wait, I don't need to sell you... sorry. ;o) Some tests require the Rev app to track the millisecs elapsed from when an image is displayed on screen to when a user-initiated event occurs, like a keypress. This means RR needs to know as precisely as possible *when* the image became visible on screen. (I can already hear some people shifting in their seats, muttering "duh! just show the image, unlock screen and put the millisecs into a variable!") Is it that simple? I assume not. I need to figure out when the image became visible, not when I told it to become visible. I'll need to factor in screen refresh rate, whether testing is displayed on a CRT or on a laptop (the normal delivery medium). This also leads me to ask: Do laptop screens refresh the same way CRTs refresh? I doubt it. How have you dealt with this in your RunRev experience? I bet *someone* has dealt with this before. Thanks in advance for all responses. This list is so great! Phil Davis ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. =0 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: SecuROM copy protection and Rev
>> Does anyone have any experience of employing Rev executables on CDs >> protected with Sony's SecuROM process - i.e. Does it work? > > No direct experience. However a quick Google search reveals that (I'm not > going to post the Google search for obvious reasons) that it's no more > secure than any other protection system. If a programmer can write the algo > to protect a cracker can prepare the tools to bypass it given the motivation > and time to do so. See a recent article I did for the Rev newsletter and > I'll be adding a follow-up that takes it a bit further in the future. > > Scott Kane Hi Scott, The SecuROM copy protection has been requested by a client so that's the way we have to go. We've used SecuROM with Director applications before without any problems but they (Director apps) are 'officially' supported within the encryption process. 'Standard' Windows and Mac apps are supposed to work just as well but you never know. I just wondered whether anyone had a actually used the process with Rev standalones. Cheers, Terry... -- Dr Terry Judd Lecturer in Educational Technology (Design) Biomedical Multimedia Unit Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry & Health Sciences The University of Melbourne Parkville VIC 3052 AUSTRALIA 61-3 8344 0187 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: how to adress the object name and not the number?
Using a space char is a personal programming choice, and certainly not a bad
one. My preference is to use a "0" as a pad character, especially for date
strings, object names, file names, and folder names.
Thus I use the less convenient form of
put columnName & ( char -2 to -1 of ("0"& i) ) into thisCell
by not using spaces in field names, you do not have to use quotes, such as
put 451 into fld cellValue01 vs fld "cellValue 1"
put 23 into fld cellValue02vs fld "cellValue 2"
put 254 into fld cellValue99 vs fld "cellValue 99"
again, personal preference.
-- start copy here
put the short date into temp
convert temp to dateitems
get (char -2 to -1 of item 1 of temp)
get it & (char -2 to -1 of ("0"&item 2 of temp))
get it & (char -2 to -1 of ("0"&item 3 of temp))
put it into msg
stop copy here
Paste these lines into the multiline message box and hit the enterkey.
--> 070419
caution: the msgbox does not like
put fld dataToWrite01 into url ("file:"& it &"invoices.txt")
--> defaultFoler/070419invoices.txt
I also have the habit of double-clicking to hilight the field name to copy
and paste, therefore spaces would be less desirable for me.
One of the good things about Rev is that you can develop more of a coding
style that makes sense to you and just go for it.
Jim Ault
Las Vegas
On 4/19/07 5:13 PM, "Bill Marriott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The recommendation to name objects starting with a letter and then a number
> is simply a "must" because as others have pointed out there can be ambiguity
> when referencing objects named with simply a number. Two additions to the
> excellent ideas:
>
> 1) Remember that the object number always refers to its layer. Lower-numbers
> are below higher-numbered ones.
>
> 2) I have found it very helpful to insert a space before the prefix and the
> number when naming objects sequentially -- e.g.: "Cell 1" rather than
> "Cell1" -- because then it's a lot easier to find out what number you've
> given that object using Rev's "word" chunk later on.
>
> For example, suppose you've created an array of fields this way:
>
> put "Qty,Part Number,Description,Unit Price,Extended Price" into
> theHeaders
> repeat for each item columnName in theHeaders
> repeat with i = 1 to 20
> put columnName && i into thisCell -- the && concatenates with a space
> between
> create fld thisCell
> set the rect of fld thisCell to \
> startLefts[columnName],rowHeight *
> (i-1),startLefts[columnName]+colWidths[columnName],rowHeight * i
> set the lockText of fld thisCell to true
> end repeat
> end repeat
>
> (Leaving out setup of the arrays) Then, when someone clicks on one of the
> cells, you can hilight the entire row very simply with this script in the
> group:
>
> on mouseup
>put the last word of the short name of the target into theLine
>repeat for each item columnName in theHeaders
> put columnName && theLine into thisCell
> set the backgroundColor of fld thisCell to yellow
>end repeat
> end mouseup
>
> or, less verbosely,
>
> on mouseup
> repeat for each item c in theHeaders
> set fillBack of fld (c && last word of short name of target) to yellow
> end repeat
> end mouseup
>
> By using "the last word" you've gotten the number of the corresponding
> elements painlessly.
>
>
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Re: millisec test timings and screen refresh rate
Keep in mind that this script doesn't show one way or another when the image is actually visible to the user. In other words, does the following script line always execute exactly when the image is visible, or not, regardless of how long it took to display the image? In any case, just to throw some more ideas out there - if time to display IS an issue, there are several different ways to go about showing an image which could potentially be compared: ## original method show image x ## move onscreen set the loc of image x to y ## undo/redo total transparency set the blendLevel of image x to 0|100 ## remove a graphic covering the image hide grc "image_cover" ## set a button icon to an offscreen image set the icon of btn "image_display" to the id of image "myImage" Hope that spurs some ideas! The following script showed a 5 megapixel image in 30 milliseconds regularly on my laptop. I did the test on an image that was 78x78 pixels and got an average of 8 milliseconds. on mouseUp put the milliseconds into temp set the vis of img 2 to true put the milliseconds - temp wait 2 seconds set the vis of img 2 to false end mouseUp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: millisec test timings and screen refresh rate
On Apr 19, 2007, at 5:19 PM, Phil Davis wrote: Some tests require the Rev app to track the millisecs elapsed from when an image is displayed on screen to when a user-initiated event occurs, like a keypress. This means RR needs to know as precisely as possible *when* the image became visible on screen. It looks like you are after the time between showing the image and the user hitting a button. Are there other factors like the user hitting the button before the image is shown and tracking those activities as well? I would then start with showing the image, taking the milliseconds on the following line. Once the user hits the button on a mouseDown, you could take the milliseconds again and do the subtraction. The exact time it takes for the picture to show after you issue the command set the vis of img x to true might be statistically insignificant. The following script showed a 5 megapixel image in 30 milliseconds regularly on my laptop. I did the test on an image that was 78x78 pixels and got an average of 8 milliseconds. on mouseUp put the milliseconds into temp set the vis of img 2 to true put the milliseconds - temp wait 2 seconds set the vis of img 2 to false end mouseUp I think the big thing is to have the image in memory before starting the test as loading and showing all in one swoop would produce the most slow down. The refresh rates on newer LCD monitors is really getting close to what CRTs can do. These are just some of my thoughts on the subject. Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: SecuROM copy protection and Rev
Does anyone have any experience of employing Rev executables on CDs protected with Sony's SecuROM process - i.e. Does it work? No direct experience. However a quick Google search reveals that (I'm not going to post the Google search for obvious reasons) that it's no more secure than any other protection system. If a programmer can write the algo to protect a cracker can prepare the tools to bypass it given the motivation and time to do so. See a recent article I did for the Rev newsletter and I'll be adding a follow-up that takes it a bit further in the future. Scott Kane ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Some longest common substring routines
I recently had to adapt some python routines for finding the length and contents of the longest common substrings of two strings to Rev and thought they might come in handy to someone else?? Anyway here they are... The first function simply returns the length of the longest common substring function getLCSlength str1,str2 if (str1 = "") or (str2 = "") then return 0 put 0 into LCSlength put "" into LCStable repeat with i = 1 to length(str1) repeat with j = 1 to length(str2) if (char i of str1) <> (char j of str2) then put 0 into item i of line j of LCStable else put 1 + (item i-1 of line j-1 of LCStable) into tValue put tValue into item i of line j of LCStable put max(tValue, LCSlength) into LCSlength end if end repeat end repeat return LCSlength end getLCSlength This next one returns the substring itself (or at least the first substring of that length if there are more than one) function getLCSstring str1, str2 if (str1 = "") or (str2 = "") then return "" put "" into LCScontents put 0 into LCSlength put "" into LCStable repeat with i = 1 to length(str1) repeat with j = 1 to length(str2) if (char i of str1) <> (char j of str2) then put 0 into item i of line j of LCStable else put 1 + (item i-1 of line j-1 of LCStable) into tValue put tValue into item i of line j of LCStable if tValue > LCSlength then put char i-tValue+1 to i of str1 into LCScontents end if put max(tValue, LCSlength) into LCSlength end if end repeat end repeat return LCScontents end getLCSstring And this last one returns the table containing the lengths and positions of all the substrings (you could parse this to find different substrings of various lengths) function getLCStable str1, str2 if (str1 = empty) or (str2 = empty) then return empty put 0 into maxLength put "" into LCStable repeat with i = 1 to length(str1) repeat with j = 1 to length(str2) if (char i of str1) <> (char j of str2) then put 0 into item i of line j of LCStable else put 1 + (item i-1 of line j-1 of LCStable) into tValue put tValue into item i of line j of LCStable end if end repeat end repeat return LCStable end getLCStable Cheers, Terry... -- Dr Terry Judd Lecturer in Educational Technology (Design) Biomedical Multimedia Unit Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry & Health Sciences The University of Melbourne Parkville VIC 3052 AUSTRALIA 61-3 8344 0187 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Oh what the heck, another CGI question
Andre, Thanks for the quick response. The CGI tutorial was indeed excellent. It does turn out BSD has a 2.2.1 version of the engine going. One thing my ISP noted is that there were some odd problems with the libraries used when the BSD version was compiled. This is not "my thing" but I am putting it out there so folks will know. Otherwise you can do everything right and end up hitting your head against 500 errors. They were nice enough to upload libs for backwards compatibility to the server so now it is working. Here is the note: << - The problem is your engine was compiled for FreeBSD 4, but you're on FreeBSD 5. su-2.05b$ ./revolution /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libstdc++.so.3" not found, required by "revolution" su-2.05b$ locate libstdc /usr/lib/libstdc++.a /usr/lib/libstdc++.so /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.4 If revolution was compiled to use libstdc++.so instead of libstdc++.so.3, then it should be more portable between FreeBSD versions. I wouldn't recommend compiling against libstdc++.so.4 either because if you ever move your website to a newer server, or if the server is ever upgraded, it will definitely break. All that said, I installed some downward compatibility libraries, so the script runs now. --- >> ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
is there a more clever way to see if revOpenDatabases() contains a valid value?
I am looking for a way to check for a valid connection to a remote MySQL database (without running a test query)... Here is the problem: 1. we connect to MySQL database 2. revOpenDatabases() contains valid value, all is fine 3. every 10 minutes, our office loses internet connectivity, this could be the culprit- OR, our MySQL server disconnects connects clients after a period of inactivity, not sure which, but it doesn't matter, because I need to find a solution that works in any event that connection is lost 4. at this point, revOpenDatabases() still returns a value, but there is no connection, running a query or any DB command hangs the software, forcing a force quit If I revCloseDatabases() or resetAll and establish a new connection before making any database command all is fine, but I am thinking this is an inefficient approach... or is it? So I am wondering if there is any clever way, perhaps through checking sockets or other network wizardry, to verify a valid MySQL database connection before actually executing a database command? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
millisec test timings and screen refresh rate
I need some help here. My question is basically this: How do I accurately track or calculate the exact moment at which an image becomes visible on screen? I have a client whose product is a psychological testing app, with a battery of canned tests included. I'm reimplementing it in RunRev, moving them away from SuperCard + a large handful of XCMDs. All the millisecond timing used to be done in the XCMDs, but now RunRev can do it natively, and on all platforms... wait, I don't need to sell you... sorry. ;o) Some tests require the Rev app to track the millisecs elapsed from when an image is displayed on screen to when a user-initiated event occurs, like a keypress. This means RR needs to know as precisely as possible *when* the image became visible on screen. (I can already hear some people shifting in their seats, muttering "duh! just show the image, unlock screen and put the millisecs into a variable!") Is it that simple? I assume not. I need to figure out when the image became visible, not when I told it to become visible. I'll need to factor in screen refresh rate, whether testing is displayed on a CRT or on a laptop (the normal delivery medium). This also leads me to ask: Do laptop screens refresh the same way CRTs refresh? I doubt it. How have you dealt with this in your RunRev experience? I bet *someone* has dealt with this before. Thanks in advance for all responses. This list is so great! Phil Davis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: how to adress the object name and not the number?
The recommendation to name objects starting with a letter and then a number is simply a "must" because as others have pointed out there can be ambiguity when referencing objects named with simply a number. Two additions to the excellent ideas: 1) Remember that the object number always refers to its layer. Lower-numbers are below higher-numbered ones. 2) I have found it very helpful to insert a space before the prefix and the number when naming objects sequentially -- e.g.: "Cell 1" rather than "Cell1" -- because then it's a lot easier to find out what number you've given that object using Rev's "word" chunk later on. For example, suppose you've created an array of fields this way: put "Qty,Part Number,Description,Unit Price,Extended Price" into theHeaders repeat for each item columnName in theHeaders repeat with i = 1 to 20 put columnName && i into thisCell -- the && concatenates with a space between create fld thisCell set the rect of fld thisCell to \ startLefts[columnName],rowHeight * (i-1),startLefts[columnName]+colWidths[columnName],rowHeight * i set the lockText of fld thisCell to true end repeat end repeat (Leaving out setup of the arrays) Then, when someone clicks on one of the cells, you can hilight the entire row very simply with this script in the group: on mouseup put the last word of the short name of the target into theLine repeat for each item columnName in theHeaders put columnName && theLine into thisCell set the backgroundColor of fld thisCell to yellow end repeat end mouseup or, less verbosely, on mouseup repeat for each item c in theHeaders set fillBack of fld (c && last word of short name of target) to yellow end repeat end mouseup By using "the last word" you've gotten the number of the corresponding elements painlessly. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
SecuROM copy protection and Rev
Does anyone have any experience of employing Rev executables on CDs protected with Sony's SecuROM process - i.e. Does it work? Regards, Terry... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: USDA announces grants, loans for distance learning
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Naming objects with numbers
Naming objects with numbers is not really a good idea: this can confuse Rev... and the programmer :-) Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. *** One old trick is to put a letter before the number: button "b1" "b2" "b3". [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikhansen.org http://www.geocities.com/erikhans08/Video.html -- /use-revolution __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Using non standard characters with a format statement
I'd guess that the engine thinks that "plat" is a function, and the
(1) is a parameter...so assuming that "guess,plat(1)" is a string you
want to format, simply enclosing it in quotes should cure the
problem, so:
put format("%11s %9s\n" , "guess, plat(1)") into fld "myReport"
if 'guess' is a variable then
put format("%11s %9s\n" , guess, "plat(1)") into fld "myReport"
Best,
Mark
On 19 Apr 2007, at 21:03, Glen Bojsza wrote:
Hello,
I am trying figure out if it is possible to use the format command
with non
standard characters like ( ) /
put format("%11s %9s\n" , guess, plat(1)) into fld "myReport"
errors
if I use
put format("%11s %9s\n" , guess, plat1) into fld "myReport"
then it works.
Unfortunately I will need to include the () for the report.
Is there any way to accomplish this within the format command?
thanks,
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Re: Rev 2.8 on RDP is a total disaster
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Using non standard characters with a format statement
Hello,
I am trying figure out if it is possible to use the format command with non
standard characters like ( ) /
put format("%11s %9s\n" , guess, plat(1)) into fld "myReport"
errors
if I use
put format("%11s %9s\n" , guess, plat1) into fld "myReport"
then it works.
Unfortunately I will need to include the () for the report.
Is there any way to accomplish this within the format command?
thanks,
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Re: possible bug: can someone confirm that load url with message is broken?
Hi Andre, Klaus, here it started working if I set the libURLSetStatusCallback before trying the load command. Then it worked as expected. :-/ Hmm, thanks, will try that. In case it will will work for me, too, we might have narrowed a possible bu er... inconvenience :-) Andre Adeus Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: possible bug: can someone confirm that load url with message is broken?
Klaus, here it started working if I set the libURLSetStatusCallback before trying the load command. Then it worked as expected. :-/ Andre On Apr 19, 2007, at 3:32 PM, Klaus Major wrote: Hi Andre, Here it is very strange, if I step with the debugger, it works, if I allow it to run by itself, the message is never dispatched. strange... bug is on my side, so, I'll solve it. Thanks Trevor I encountered this one, too! Even "urlstatus turl" does not work. I did this test: ... put "http://www.apple.com"; into turl load turl put urlstatus(turl) ## nothing was put! wait 1 secs ## Just to give it some time... put urlstatus(turl) ## again nothing ... The above DOES work in 2.8 however. So I finally use "libURLDownloadToFile" which did work as espected. andre Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: QT Player Challenge - Play Remote Movie
Trevor DeVore wrote: Most likely QuickTime is taking over after Rev creates the QuickTime Movie Controller (player object) and asks the QT framework to download the file. So I don't think it would be an issue related to Revolution's implementation of sockets. Just guessing, but perhaps QuickTime returns a status message that the browser sees and attempts to start the movie download again while Rev interprets it as an error and does nothing. Now we are digging! Good. I'll post these "intuitions" to the bug... Thanks Sivakatirswami www.himalayanacademy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: possible bug: can someone confirm that load url with message is broken?
Hi Andre, Here it is very strange, if I step with the debugger, it works, if I allow it to run by itself, the message is never dispatched. strange... bug is on my side, so, I'll solve it. Thanks Trevor I encountered this one, too! Even "urlstatus turl" does not work. I did this test: ... put "http://www.apple.com"; into turl load turl put urlstatus(turl) ## nothing was put! wait 1 secs ## Just to give it some time... put urlstatus(turl) ## again nothing ... The above DOES work in 2.8 however. So I finally use "libURLDownloadToFile" which did work as espected. andre Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Standalone application problem
Hi Andrew, I treat external audio, video and even images much the same way as I would in a web site. When putting together a standalone that references this media I put the media in a separate folder within the folder that houses the standalone and work with a relative link to the media. Say your standalone is in a folder called "My Standalone." Create a media folder within that folder and place your media in this new folder (or copy your media folder into this new standalone folder). Then you query the path of the standalone, replace the standalone name in the path with the media folder name, and reference your images/ audio/video files using this new path: put the fileName of this stack into theStackPath set the itemDelimiter to "/" put "MyMedia" into item -1 of theStackPath Now you have a reference point for all your media, as long as it is housed in the "MyMedia" folder. You can retain this in several ways. Perhaps the easiest is to set a custom property of either the stack or the card: set the uMediaFolder of this stack to theStackPath Probably the best place to do this is in the preOpenStack handler, on the card script of the first card to open when the stack opens. Don't put it in the stack script, or this script will execute any time a stack opens within your standalone. So the preOpenStack handler on the first card of your stack would look like this: on preOpenStack put the fileName of this stack into theStackPath set the itemDelimiter to "/" put "MyMedia" into item -1 of theStackPath set the uMediaFolder of this stack to theStackPath end preOpenStack Any time you want to set the filename of a player now, you call up the uMediaFolder of the stack and put the name of the media file after this. Then you set the filename of the player to this path: put the uMediaFolder of this stack into theFolderPath put theFolderPath & "sound_01.aif" into theNewFile set the filename of player 1 to theNewFile You can place the above lines into a preOpenCard handler in the card script of the card that contains the player, or you can place it on a mouseUp handler to set the new filename. This works nicely if you have only one audio file to play. If you want to play several, or want to call up a specific audio file to play, you can use the uFolderPath of the stack to get a list of the files in the media folder, display them as a list in a list field. In the script of the list field you can write a mouseUp handler to set the filename of the player to the audio file that you click on. In a button or preOpenCard handler you can put a script like this: on preOpenCard -- goes in the card script put the uMediaFolder of this stack into theFolderPath put the defaultFolder into theOrigDefault -- keep track of the original default folder set the defaultFolder to theFolderPath -- allows us to get a listing of all the media files in this folder put the files into theMediaFiles -- this gets a list of all files in the default folder, one file per line -- you may want to do some filtering of this list here, i.e. include only files with ".wav" extension etc. filter theMediaFiles with "*.wav" -- this is optional, if you have a mixed type of files put theMediaFiles into fld "audio files" -- this is the scrolling list field, you can name it what you want set the defaultFolder to theOrigDefault -- restore the original default folder end preOpenCard Then in your list field script you would have a handler like so: on mouseUp put the selectedText into theFile set the filename of player 1 to the uMediaFolder of this stack & "/" & theFile end mouseUp The point is, that if you set up a connection to the media folder when you first open your stack, either within the development environment or as a standalone, you can call up any individual file pretty easily. It was nice to meet you at the ISLS conference in Hawaii, and I'm delighted you are checking into Revolution. Welcome to the Revolution! Dan ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
solved: Re: can't play movie and load url at the same time.
sorry folks, I had a recursion with a wait call that blocked everything... silly me. andre On Apr 19, 2007, at 2:48 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: another question folks, if you have a player object playing a movie and you load a url and use liburlsetstatuscallback to put some status text below the player. does the movie stops while the content is being loaded? Isn't load supposed to be asynchronous so that we could play a movie file while loading a url? Andre ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
can't play movie and load url at the same time.
another question folks, if you have a player object playing a movie and you load a url and use liburlsetstatuscallback to put some status text below the player. does the movie stops while the content is being loaded? Isn't load supposed to be asynchronous so that we could play a movie file while loading a url? Andre ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Oh what the heck, another CGI question
Bryan, you don't need a license for that. I don't thing there's a 2.2 engine for BSD, I think the last one was 2.1 or something like that. just fetch the engine from runrev ftp site, put it on your FreeBSD box and set the correct permissions. Check Jacque wonderful CGI tutorial, the steps are the same, just use the bsd engine instead of the linux one. andre On Apr 19, 2007, at 2:14 PM, Bryan McCormick wrote: Hey guys. This is going to sound really dumb. My ISP runs FreeBSD and so I need to run the old 2.2 engine. Not a big deal since I won't be stressing it too much. However, this is the problem. I don't have a BSD system to boot the binary up into to license the thing. How the heck do you license it? Can a nice person at RunRev do it? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: possible bug: can someone confirm that load url with message is broken?
Here it is very strange, if I step with the debugger, it works, if I allow it to run by itself, the message is never dispatched. strange... bug is on my side, so, I'll solve it. Thanks Trevor andre On Apr 19, 2007, at 2:12 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote: On Apr 19, 2007, at 9:44 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: Hello folks, can someone confirm that in Rev 2.8.1-dp-2 Mac OS X Intel has a problem with load url with messages? The load works but the message is never sent. Andre, load url is working fine with messages on my end (OS X intel). -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: What's up with this?????
Perhaps doing a drag and drop onto an alias of the app (ion the desktop or dock) will work better than the double-click adventure. Jim Ault Las Vegas On 4/19/07 10:00 AM, "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Found it! > > I was debugging with an external using XCode. In XCode, when you run > the application in debug mode, it loads the application you specify > (which in this case is RunRev 2.8.0.370) and specify the Stack you > want to debug. However during this process I also double-clicked on > the Stack File to open it, this version caused a different version of > RunRev to load. From then on, the whole thing went weird! > > In this case restarting would *usually* cure the problem (and it did > for a while), but then I must have double-clicked the Stack again! > > I can't seem to be able to specify that all .rev files are loaded by > just one version of RunRev, I can only set it on a Per File basis > which I have now done. But the problem is that if I restore a file > from a backup, it takes on the old version again. > > Jeez, what a problem! > > Thanks for all your suggestions. > All the Best > Dave > > On 19 Apr 2007, at 17:01, Devin Asay wrote: > >> >> On Apr 19, 2007, at 9:23 AM, Dave wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm using RunRev 2.8.0.370. >>> >>> I have the following in a Button Script: >>> >>> put text of field "FieldFrameCount" into myFrameCount >>> repeat with myFrameCounter = 1 to myFrameCount >>> >>> It has been working fine up until about half an hour ago when it >>> started giving me this execution error: >>> >>> Type: repeat error in 'with' end condition expression >>> Object: button >>> Line: repeat with myFrameCounter - 1 to myFrameCount >>> >>> I'm at a loss as to what to do to fix it! >> >> Did the data in the field somehow get messed up in a way that's not >> visually obvious--e.g., data on subsequent lines that are scrolled >> out of sight? What happens if you check the validity of >> myFrameCount before the repeat loop: >> >> if myFrameCount is a number then... >> >> I've been bitten by things like this before. >> >> HTH >> >> Devin >> >> Devin Asay >> Humanities Technology and Research Support Center >> Brigham Young University >> >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Graphics over QT
Try these steps - semi-transparent = set the blendlevel of img trees.jpg to 60 set the blendlevel of this stack to 60 set the blendlevel of this stack to 100 --transp set the blendlevel of this stack to 0 set the blendlevel of fld 1 to 60 -- Do a google for "windowlab rossi" and you will find a stack that allows you to quickly make windows that have holes. Jim Ault Las Vegas On 4/19/07 8:43 AM, "Kevin Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perhaps someone can help me problem solve some graphics issues I have with > Revolution. > > I'm writing an application that needed to display graphics over running > Quicktime video. I quickly discovered that the only way of doing this (that > I could find) was to put the graphics on a substack that I opened as a > palette. Doing this solved my initial problem, but since then I've been > asked to do more impressive things with the graphics. My questions are as > follows. > > 1) Is there a way to make a paletted stack semi-transparent, such that you > could see what's behind it, like running video? > > 2) I would like a paletted stack to appear on the screen as if it was > sliding out from behind something. The drawer command opens and slides > stacks to the side or bottom, while I want to slide a new stack overtop of > an open stack. The effect I'm looking for is the same as placing a fld > "offscreen" beyond the right hand border of a stack and issuing a move > command to slide it to the center of the stack. It would simply appear from > the first stack's right edge. But instead of using a field, I want to do > this with a stack, and preferably a paletted stack so it can float over > Quicktime. > > 3) I've played around with nonrectangular stack shapes using references to > image IDs, but is it possible to have a stack shaped with a hole in the > middle? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Oh what the heck, another CGI question
Hey guys. This is going to sound really dumb. My ISP runs FreeBSD and so I need to run the old 2.2 engine. Not a big deal since I won't be stressing it too much. However, this is the problem. I don't have a BSD system to boot the binary up into to license the thing. How the heck do you license it? Can a nice person at RunRev do it? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: possible bug: can someone confirm that load url with message is broken?
On Apr 19, 2007, at 9:44 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: Hello folks, can someone confirm that in Rev 2.8.1-dp-2 Mac OS X Intel has a problem with load url with messages? The load works but the message is never sent. Andre, load url is working fine with messages on my end (OS X intel). -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: What's up with this?????
Hi, Found it! I was debugging with an external using XCode. In XCode, when you run the application in debug mode, it loads the application you specify (which in this case is RunRev 2.8.0.370) and specify the Stack you want to debug. However during this process I also double-clicked on the Stack File to open it, this version caused a different version of RunRev to load. From then on, the whole thing went weird! In this case restarting would *usually* cure the problem (and it did for a while), but then I must have double-clicked the Stack again! I can't seem to be able to specify that all .rev files are loaded by just one version of RunRev, I can only set it on a Per File basis which I have now done. But the problem is that if I restore a file from a backup, it takes on the old version again. Jeez, what a problem! Thanks for all your suggestions. All the Best Dave On 19 Apr 2007, at 17:01, Devin Asay wrote: On Apr 19, 2007, at 9:23 AM, Dave wrote: Hi, I'm using RunRev 2.8.0.370. I have the following in a Button Script: put text of field "FieldFrameCount" into myFrameCount repeat with myFrameCounter = 1 to myFrameCount It has been working fine up until about half an hour ago when it started giving me this execution error: Type: repeat error in 'with' end condition expression Object: button Line: repeat with myFrameCounter - 1 to myFrameCount I'm at a loss as to what to do to fix it! Did the data in the field somehow get messed up in a way that's not visually obvious--e.g., data on subsequent lines that are scrolled out of sight? What happens if you check the validity of myFrameCount before the repeat loop: if myFrameCount is a number then... I've been bitten by things like this before. HTH Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
possible bug: can someone confirm that load url with message is broken?
Hello folks, can someone confirm that in Rev 2.8.1-dp-2 Mac OS X Intel has a problem with load url with messages? The load works but the message is never sent. Cheers andre ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Graphics over QT
Kevin Brooks wrote: I'm writing an application that needed to display graphics over running Quicktime video. I quickly discovered that the only way of doing this (that I could find) was to put the graphics on a substack that I opened as a palette. If you're not using QT's controller, there's another way: Just turn on the alwaysBuffer property of the player object. That will cause it to be rendered into the window's buffer rather than blitted onto the screen directly by QT, which allows Rev to apply its normal compositing to it. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Standalone application problem
Andrew Lian -nswc wrote: Dear All Please forgive yet another newbie question. I have stack which plays a sound file played through a playerobject. Its path is identified in the player's "Source" property. Let's say it is C:/sounds/apl.wav. The file plays perfectly well in the development environment and on my computer. I now make a standalone application - and it is produced ok. However, my sound file can no longer be heard. Either it has not been automatically packaged into the application or there is a path problem. I have tried to include the relevant file in the package by using the "Copy Files" setting of the "Standalone application settings" but that seems to make no difference. Is there some legible documentation somewhere of how to prepare the files so that the whole package gets produced correctly with the correct paths? DO I have to respect the original paths and recreate them on any computer which tries to run the standalone? This is almost certainly a file path problem. If you are refering to the sound file by a long file path name, it will not be the same on anyone else's machine. And if you build a standalone with the file added to the standalone folder, then its file path will also have changed. You can solve the problem in a couple of ways. The easiest way is to calculate the correct file path with a script. Something like this should work: put the effective filename of this stack into tPath set the itemdelimiter to slash put "mySoundFolder/mySoundFile.aif" into last item of tPath This will produce a file path to a file named "mySoundFile.aif" inside a folder called "mySoundFolder" which is next to the standalone. On Windows, that would be a folder in the same parent folder as your standalone. On OS X, it would be a folder inside the Mac OS folder which is inside the application bundle. Note that inside the IDE, it won't work until you move a copy of the sound file folder into the same parent folder as your stack. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Standalone application problem
On Apr 18, 2007, at 5:21 PM, Andrew Lian -nswc wrote:
Dear All
Please forgive yet another newbie question.
I have stack which plays a sound file played through a
playerobject. Its path is identified in the player's "Source"
property. Let's say it is C:/sounds/apl.wav.
The file plays perfectly well in the development environment and on
my computer.
I now make a standalone application - and it is produced ok.
However, my sound file can no longer be heard. Either it has not
been automatically packaged into the application or there is a path
problem.
I have tried to include the relevant file in the package by using
the "Copy Files" setting of the "Standalone application settings"
but that seems to make no difference. Is there some legible
documentation somewhere of how to prepare the files so that the
whole package gets produced correctly with the correct paths? DO I
have to respect the original paths and recreate them on any
computer which tries to run the standalone?
Andrew,
Most often it's easiest to leave the external media files in a place
relative to the defaultFolder. The problem is the default value of
the defaultFolder changes when running as a standalone vs. in the
development environment. In the IDE, the defaultFolder is the folder
containing the Revolution executable. In the standalone environment,
the stack in essence becomes the executable, so the defaultFolder is
the folder containing the standalone. If you don't explicitly set the
defaultFolder to another place on the disk, it will work if you set
the filename ("source") property of the player to 'sounds/apl.wav',
and then making sure the sounds folder is in the same folder as the
standalone. To deal with the difference between the IDE and
standalone, I often include the scripting similar to this in my
mainstack's stack script:
on preOpenStack
# set the root folder for all resources
if the environment is "development" then
set the defaultFolder to enclosingFolder(the name of me)
end if
## Do this for local data and media files.
set the baseDir of me to the defaultFolder & "/" & "resources"
end preOpenStack
function enclosingFolder pStName
get the filename of pStName
set the itemDelimiter to "/"
return item 1 to -2 of it
end enclosingFolder
The situation for Mac OS X is slighter more complicated, but easy
enough to understand, if you're interested.
One last thing... I never use the "copy files" part of the standalone
builder. I find it easiest just to build my standalone then move the
needed files or stacks into the appropriate folder.
HTH
Devin
Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University
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AW: how to adress the object name and not the number?
Ok good hint Ian Thanks Tiemo > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use-revolution- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Ian Wood > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. April 2007 16:37 > An: How to use Revolution > Betreff: Re: how to adress the object name and not the number? > > If the controls are already arranged in *other* groups that's not > going to work. > > Ian > > On 19 Apr 2007, at 15:05, Dave wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Another way is to just put all images in a category into a Group, > > then to access the images do something like: > > > > repeat with myIndex= 1 to the number of images in group "ThumbGroup" > > set the threeD of image myIndex of group "ThumbGroup" to true > > end repeat > > > > Just change the layer (in the IDE) of the images in the group so > > they are in the order you want them in. > > > > All the Best > > Dave > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev 2.8 on RDP is a total disaster
I think if you read the bug report on this you will find that this specific report has received a fair amount of attention over time, but is as yet unconfirmed since we are unsure as to the exact cause, or whether it is indeed even a Rev bug. It has not been marked as fixed, or closed, and the discussion has continued, so it should not come as a surprise to anyone trying out the latest version that the situation in this specific set of circumstances has not, in fact, changed. If anyone has new data, more information, or suggestions about this issue, the best place to report them is in the bug report that Xavier has kindly supplied the url for. Flaming this list does very little to get the issue fixed, or looked at by engineers, it just creates noise and annoys the readers of the list. If people are interested in providing useful feedback to assist us in making Revolution 2.9 the best release ever, please do join the beta test program if you have not already done so. Regards, Heather On 19 Apr 2007, at 14:59, Dave wrote: Hi, OOps, the documentation window is also all garbled up too!!! How this the developpers and testers manage to miss this??? Simple they don't bother to test it or to even run it! Wonderful, eh? All the Best Dave On 19 Apr 2007, at 10:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bad habits never change. I updated to Rev 2.8 enterprise (no, actually i bought a new version) and I was expecting an improvement but not this!!! After nearly 8 years, I open the new runrev IDE on a server as I used to with Metacard and behold... ALL THE GRAPHICS ARE ALL SCREWED UP AGAIN! Not ONE color is correct... No this is not news!!! I've reported this problem back in 1999! But Rev actually managed to make it worse than metacard!!! All the icons are noised up (like a corrupted resource on a mac), text in the toolbar is just as bad where there is supposed to be a smooth shading... Fields are all black, and since the text is black too, you must select text to see what it says... Now, that was ok to paste (when copy or paste wants to work) in the license but when you have to edit a script it's "forget it!" the whole script editor field is BLACK! If anyone know how to work with rev in a virgin install of Rev 2.8 in a Win32 2003 server RDP session in 16 I would really appreciate it!!! I cant even debug my scripts!!! OOps, the documentation window is also all garbled up too!!! How this the developpers and testers manage to miss this??? Thanks in advance Xav - --- Clearstream Services S.A. 42 Avenue JF Kennedy, L-1855 Luxembourg Société anonyme is organised with limited liability in the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg RC Luxembourg B 60911. - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. Legally required information for business correspondence/ Gesetzliche Pflichtangaben fuer Geschaeftskorrespondenz: http://deutsche-boerse.com/letterhead END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Heather Nagey Customer Services Manager Runtime Revolution Ltd http://www.runrev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: What's up with this?????
On Apr 19, 2007, at 9:23 AM, Dave wrote: Hi, I'm using RunRev 2.8.0.370. I have the following in a Button Script: put text of field "FieldFrameCount" into myFrameCount repeat with myFrameCounter = 1 to myFrameCount It has been working fine up until about half an hour ago when it started giving me this execution error: Type: repeat error in 'with' end condition expression Object: button Line: repeat with myFrameCounter - 1 to myFrameCount I'm at a loss as to what to do to fix it! Did the data in the field somehow get messed up in a way that's not visually obvious--e.g., data on subsequent lines that are scrolled out of sight? What happens if you check the validity of myFrameCount before the repeat loop: if myFrameCount is a number then... I've been bitten by things like this before. HTH Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: What's up with this?????
Hi Dave, First of all, restarting your machine is rarely, if ever, necessary and particularly not because of execution errors. Apparently, myFrameCounter or myFrameCount is not a positive integer or myFrameCount < myFrameCounter. Just check these variables before the repeat loop starts. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 19-apr-2007, om 17:23 heeft Dave het volgende geschreven: Hi, I'm using RunRev 2.8.0.370. I have the following in a Button Script: put text of field "FieldFrameCount" into myFrameCount repeat with myFrameCounter = 1 to myFrameCount It has been working fine up until about half an hour ago when it started giving me this execution error: Type: repeat error in 'with' end condition expression Object: button Line: repeat with myFrameCounter - 1 to myFrameCount I'm at a loss as to what to do to fix it! I've tried re-starting RunRev and then Restarting the whole machine. Thanks a lot All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: What's up with this?????
What's in field "FieldFrameCount"? Is it possible it's not a number? Perhaps you've got text in there you're not seeing (i.e. spaces, returns, etc.)? On Apr 19, 2007, at 9:23 AM, Dave wrote: Hi, I'm using RunRev 2.8.0.370. I have the following in a Button Script: put text of field "FieldFrameCount" into myFrameCount repeat with myFrameCounter = 1 to myFrameCount It has been working fine up until about half an hour ago when it started giving me this execution error: Type: repeat error in 'with' end condition expression Object: button Line: repeat with myFrameCounter - 1 to myFrameCount I'm at a loss as to what to do to fix it! I've tried re-starting RunRev and then Restarting the whole machine. Thanks a lot All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Graphics over QT
Perhaps someone can help me problem solve some graphics issues I have with Revolution. I'm writing an application that needed to display graphics over running Quicktime video. I quickly discovered that the only way of doing this (that I could find) was to put the graphics on a substack that I opened as a palette. Doing this solved my initial problem, but since then I've been asked to do more impressive things with the graphics. My questions are as follows. 1) Is there a way to make a paletted stack semi-transparent, such that you could see what's behind it, like running video? 2) I would like a paletted stack to appear on the screen as if it was sliding out from behind something. The drawer command opens and slides stacks to the side or bottom, while I want to slide a new stack overtop of an open stack. The effect I'm looking for is the same as placing a fld "offscreen" beyond the right hand border of a stack and issuing a move command to slide it to the center of the stack. It would simply appear from the first stack's right edge. But instead of using a field, I want to do this with a stack, and preferably a paletted stack so it can float over Quicktime. 3) I've played around with nonrectangular stack shapes using references to image IDs, but is it possible to have a stack shaped with a hole in the middle? Thanks for the help. -Kevin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
What's up with this?????
Hi, I'm using RunRev 2.8.0.370. I have the following in a Button Script: put text of field "FieldFrameCount" into myFrameCount repeat with myFrameCounter = 1 to myFrameCount It has been working fine up until about half an hour ago when it started giving me this execution error: Type: repeat error in 'with' end condition expression Object: button Line: repeat with myFrameCounter - 1 to myFrameCount I'm at a loss as to what to do to fix it! I've tried re-starting RunRev and then Restarting the whole machine. Thanks a lot All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: how to adress the object name and not the number?
If the controls are already arranged in *other* groups that's not going to work. Ian On 19 Apr 2007, at 15:05, Dave wrote: Hi, Another way is to just put all images in a category into a Group, then to access the images do something like: repeat with myIndex= 1 to the number of images in group "ThumbGroup" set the threeD of image myIndex of group "ThumbGroup" to true end repeat Just change the layer (in the IDE) of the images in the group so they are in the order you want them in. All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: how to adress the object name and not the number?
Nice idea!
Thanks Tiemo
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use-revolution-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Dave
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. April 2007 16:06
> An: How to use Revolution
> Betreff: Re: how to adress the object name and not the number?
>
> Hi,
>
> Another way is to just put all images in a category into a Group,
> then to access the images do something like:
>
> repeat with myIndex= 1 to the number of images in group "ThumbGroup"
>set the threeD of image myIndex of group "ThumbGroup" to true
> end repeat
>
> Just change the layer (in the IDE) of the images in the group so they
> are in the order you want them in.
>
> All the Best
> Dave
>
> On 19 Apr 2007, at 10:57, Ian Wood wrote:
>
> > I second Eric's suggestion. It also comes in handy for keeping
> > track of images/objects for different purposes, e.g. "thumb1",
> > "main2", "preview3", "temp4" etc.
> >
> > Looping through and deleting all the 'temp' images then becomes
> > very easy.
> >
> > Ian
> >
> > On 19 Apr 2007, at 10:51, Eric Chatonet wrote:
> >
> >> Name each image with a name followed by a numeric suffix: "img1'.
> >> Then:
> >>
> >> repeat with i = 1 to the number of imgs
> >> if the threeD of img ("img" & i) then etc.
> >> -- just an example :-)
> >> end repeat
> >
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Re: External problem
Hi,
Without looking at the code I'm can't tell for certain, but I think
this is to do with C vs C++. You need to surround it with:
#ifdef __cplusplus
extern "C"
{
#endif
-- Definitions Here
#ifdef __cplusplus
};
#endif
Hope this Helps
Dave
On 18 Apr 2007, at 18:20, Matthew wrote:
I am currently trying to build a SHA1 library in the hopes that it
will run faster than ShaoSean's library (Great library by the way).
I have the code all written out and no errors in the code itself,
but when i try to compile it has 1 error and it says:
Undefined symbols:
_getXtable
(part of path removed)/ExternalsEnvironment2_mod/sha1_hash/cache/
Debug/sha1_hash.build/Objects-normal/ppc/sha1_hash.o reference to
undefined _getXtable
symbols names listed in -exported_symbols_list: (part of path
removed)/ExternalsEnvironmentV2_mod/sha1_hash/sha1_hash.exports not
in linked objects
_getXtaable
collect2: Id returned 1 exit status
looking in both externals.c and externals.h i notice that getXtable
is defined but not _getXtable. Is there something that I should
change to fix this?
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Re: how to adress the object name and not the number?
Hi,
Another way is to just put all images in a category into a Group,
then to access the images do something like:
repeat with myIndex= 1 to the number of images in group "ThumbGroup"
set the threeD of image myIndex of group "ThumbGroup" to true
end repeat
Just change the layer (in the IDE) of the images in the group so they
are in the order you want them in.
All the Best
Dave
On 19 Apr 2007, at 10:57, Ian Wood wrote:
I second Eric's suggestion. It also comes in handy for keeping
track of images/objects for different purposes, e.g. "thumb1",
"main2", "preview3", "temp4" etc.
Looping through and deleting all the 'temp' images then becomes
very easy.
Ian
On 19 Apr 2007, at 10:51, Eric Chatonet wrote:
Name each image with a name followed by a numeric suffix: "img1'.
Then:
repeat with i = 1 to the number of imgs
if the threeD of img ("img" & i) then etc.
-- just an example :-)
end repeat
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Re: Rev 2.8 on RDP is a total disaster
Hi, OOps, the documentation window is also all garbled up too!!! How this the developpers and testers manage to miss this??? Simple they don't bother to test it or to even run it! Wonderful, eh? All the Best Dave On 19 Apr 2007, at 10:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bad habits never change. I updated to Rev 2.8 enterprise (no, actually i bought a new version) and I was expecting an improvement but not this!!! After nearly 8 years, I open the new runrev IDE on a server as I used to with Metacard and behold... ALL THE GRAPHICS ARE ALL SCREWED UP AGAIN! Not ONE color is correct... No this is not news!!! I've reported this problem back in 1999! But Rev actually managed to make it worse than metacard!!! All the icons are noised up (like a corrupted resource on a mac), text in the toolbar is just as bad where there is supposed to be a smooth shading... Fields are all black, and since the text is black too, you must select text to see what it says... Now, that was ok to paste (when copy or paste wants to work) in the license but when you have to edit a script it's "forget it!" the whole script editor field is BLACK! If anyone know how to work with rev in a virgin install of Rev 2.8 in a Win32 2003 server RDP session in 16 I would really appreciate it!!! I cant even debug my scripts!!! OOps, the documentation window is also all garbled up too!!! How this the developpers and testers manage to miss this??? Thanks in advance Xav -- -- Clearstream Services S.A. 42 Avenue JF Kennedy, L-1855 Luxembourg Société anonyme is organised with limited liability in the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg RC Luxembourg B 60911. - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. Legally required information for business correspondence/ Gesetzliche Pflichtangaben fuer Geschaeftskorrespondenz: http://deutsche-boerse.com/letterhead END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: scaling and positioning proportionally an object at the same time
Hi, Well you don't need to "call" the GM, you set the GM properties via the Property Inspector for the Object(s) and I doubt if the GM would cause your stack not to compile into a Standalone. What problem do you get when you try to Save as Standalone? All the Best Dave On 18 Apr 2007, at 17:24, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Hi all, Dave in particular, Is it possible that the stack I can no longer compile to a stand alone uses this broken Geometry Manager without my having called any of its routines myself. It contains a lot of images that I have either imported or pasted from images copied from ResEdit and sometimes modified further with additional images, usually white space to clean up an image, using MacDraft. The last image I recall adding prior to Rev's refusal to create the stand along was in this last category. I'm searching for ANYTHING that may be the cause at this point. TIA, Joe Wilkins On Apr 18, 2007, at 8:39 AM, Dave wrote: Hi, The Geometry Manager is broken and has been for over three years. Why they just don't take it out is beyond me. If it wasn't there at least you wouldn't waste hours/days wondering why your code doesn't work and what you have done wrong. Eventually you post here and someone (like me!) glibly tells you it's broken! It's best to do you own geometry handling. There are a number of sample stacks that do this. All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: scaling and positioning proportionally an object at the same time
Hi, The problem is that one day you will be changing your stack and not doing anything with the GM and then suddenly *BANG* all your objects will disappear off into the land of nod! They will still be in the stack but their positions will be wild values like Top, Left = 25467,9456 and the only way to get the objects back inside the stacks display area will be to delete all geometry on all objects and then manually set their coordinates back inside the visible stack area again. If you have a lot of objects this can take a *long* time and is especially annoying if you have spent ages getting all the positions "just-right". Having being burnt like this a few times, I, along with most others that have been using RunRev for a while don't go near the GM. It's just not worth the risk. If you *must* use GM you could at least protect yourself a bit by adding some code like this to each object: if the cpGMSaveRect of me = empty then put the rect of me into the cpGMSaveRect of me end if Then run this once for each object once you have got all the positioning right. At least then, if and when the GM goes Beswick you can restore the original rectangle easily enough. Just using GM and trusting it without question is like playing Russian Roulette! All the Best Dave On 19 Apr 2007, at 14:14, Christian Langers wrote: Merci beaucoup Eric ! Well I found a way to combine the GM and scripting (I read your tutorial...) Well, I think the GM is good enough for minor use / basic things... and scripting stays the best way... Greets, Christian Début du message réexpédié : De : Eric Chatonet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date : 18 avril 2007 15:47:47 GMT+02:00 À : How to use Revolution Objet : Rép : scaling and positioning proportionally an object at the same time Répondre à : How to use Revolution Bonjour Christian, Le 18 avr. 07 à 15:18, Christian Langers a écrit : Hello, I try since hours to do this : I have an image (photo) on a stack which scales to the right and down on resizing the stack (via Geometry Manager); I have a graphic (rectangle) placed at a precise location on the image (the user selects a portion of the image to hilite something on it); Now I want that when the user resizes the window the graphic scales and moves (up/down) proportionaly to the image , so that the rectangle grows and shrinks with the image hiliting always the same portion of the image (e.g. an eye of a face); I hope you follow (it's difficult to explain this in English)... I tried to use the GM in REv, but ...brrr... the graphic jumps away from its original position when resizing... So... please ! Hlp... This is getting me on my nerves ;-) Thanks for any suggestions or solutions... Christian from Luxembourg Actually don't trust the Geometry Manager and prefer to write your own routines in a resizeStack handler ;-) Here is, for instance, an excerpt from such a handler: on resizeStack pNewW,pNewH,pOldW,pOldH -- note params passed by Rev ;-) global gPrefs - if gPrefs["uAdds"] then ProportionalWResize the long name of img "ToolbarShadow",pNewW,114 else ProportionalWResize the long name of img "ToolbarShadow",pNewW,0 pass resizeStack end resizeStack And: on ProportionalWResize pObj,pNewW,pDelta local tRect - put the rect of pObj into tRect put pNewW - pDelta into item 3 of tRect set the rect of pObj to tRect end ProportionalWResize Of course, the above example is simple and, sometimes, it might appear more tricky... But actually, Rev allows to script any complex resizing in any case ;-) Good luck! Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Fwd: scaling and positioning proportionally an object at the same time
Merci beaucoup Eric ! Well I found a way to combine the GM and scripting (I read your tutorial...) Well, I think the GM is good enough for minor use / basic things... and scripting stays the best way... Greets, Christian Début du message réexpédié : De : Eric Chatonet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date : 18 avril 2007 15:47:47 GMT+02:00 À : How to use Revolution Objet : Rép : scaling and positioning proportionally an object at the same time Répondre à : How to use Revolution Bonjour Christian, Le 18 avr. 07 à 15:18, Christian Langers a écrit : Hello, I try since hours to do this : I have an image (photo) on a stack which scales to the right and down on resizing the stack (via Geometry Manager); I have a graphic (rectangle) placed at a precise location on the image (the user selects a portion of the image to hilite something on it); Now I want that when the user resizes the window the graphic scales and moves (up/down) proportionaly to the image , so that the rectangle grows and shrinks with the image hiliting always the same portion of the image (e.g. an eye of a face); I hope you follow (it's difficult to explain this in English)... I tried to use the GM in REv, but ...brrr... the graphic jumps away from its original position when resizing... So... please ! Hlp... This is getting me on my nerves ;-) Thanks for any suggestions or solutions... Christian from Luxembourg Actually don't trust the Geometry Manager and prefer to write your own routines in a resizeStack handler ;-) Here is, for instance, an excerpt from such a handler: on resizeStack pNewW,pNewH,pOldW,pOldH -- note params passed by Rev ;-) global gPrefs - if gPrefs["uAdds"] then ProportionalWResize the long name of img "ToolbarShadow",pNewW,114 else ProportionalWResize the long name of img "ToolbarShadow",pNewW,0 pass resizeStack end resizeStack And: on ProportionalWResize pObj,pNewW,pDelta local tRect - put the rect of pObj into tRect put pNewW - pDelta into item 3 of tRect set the rect of pObj to tRect end ProportionalWResize Of course, the above example is simple and, sometimes, it might appear more tricky... But actually, Rev allows to script any complex resizing in any case ;-) Good luck! Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev 2.8 on RDP is a total disaster
things get stranger! The console window is set to 16 bit yet the screencolors still report 4294967296 which is 24 bit! And the screendepth is 32! The colorMap reports only 256 colors (all seem wrong anyway)... And the documentation says in the comments: If the bit depth is greater than 8 bits, the colormap property always reports "Fixed" But that is not the case Conclusion, the rev engine is not aware of what the display depth is being displayed in RDP (remote desktop protocol)... Bugzilla 1076, was reported in 2003, and more than one person consider this blocking... http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=1076 Anyone know any solutions??? Switching the colordepth of the session to 8, 15, 16 or 24 bit is a possibility but NONE of them work properly!!! Thanks for any hints Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 19/04/2007 11:33:57: > Bad habits never change. I updated to Rev 2.8 enterprise (no, actually i > bought a new version) and I was expecting an improvement but not this!!! > > After nearly 8 years, I open the new runrev IDE on a server as I used to > with Metacard and > behold... ALL THE GRAPHICS ARE ALL SCREWED UP AGAIN! Not ONE color is > correct... > > No this is not news!!! I've reported this problem back in 1999! > > But Rev actually managed to make it worse than metacard!!! > > All the icons are noised up (like a corrupted resource on a mac), text in > the toolbar is just as bad where there is supposed to be a smooth > shading... > > Fields are all black, and since the text is black too, you must select > text to see what it says... > > Now, that was ok to paste (when copy or paste wants to work) in the > license but when you have to edit a script it's "forget it!" > the whole script editor field is BLACK! > > If anyone know how to work with rev in a virgin install of Rev 2.8 in a > Win32 2003 server RDP session in 16 I would really appreciate it!!! > I cant even debug my scripts!!! > > OOps, the documentation window is also all garbled up too!!! How this the > developpers and testers manage to miss this??? > > Thanks in advance > Xav > > > > Clearstream Services S.A. > 42 Avenue JF Kennedy, L-1855 Luxembourg > Société anonyme is organised with limited liability > in the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg RC Luxembourg B 60911. > > > - > Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com > > IMPORTANT MESSAGE > > Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream > International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents > of this message. > > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be > legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you > are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, > distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance > on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in > this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the > sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream > International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. > > Legally required information for business correspondence/ > Gesetzliche Pflichtangaben fuer Geschaeftskorrespondenz: > http://deutsche-boerse.com/letterhead > > END OF DISCLAIMER > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Clearstream Services S.A. 42 Avenue JF Kennedy, L-1855 Luxembourg Société anonyme is organised with limited liability in the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg RC Luxembourg B 60911. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: how to adress the object name and not the number?
Mercie again Eric for your explanations, I will follow them
Tiemo
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use-revolution-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Eric Chatonet
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. April 2007 11:51
> An: How to use Revolution
> Betreff: Re: how to adress the object name and not the number?
>
> Hi again,
>
> Naming objects with numbers is not really a good idea: this can
> confuse Rev... and the programmer :-)
> But you have many ways to achieve the goal:
>
> Name each image with a name followed by a numeric suffix: "img1'.
> Then:
>
> repeat with i = 1 to the number of imgs
>if the threeD of img ("img" & i) then etc.
>-- just an example :-)
> end repeat
>
> Set the ID of each image to build a series (images are the only
> objects the ID of which you may change as you want):
> Then:
>
> repeat with i = ID1 to ID2
>if the threeD of img ID i then etc.
> end repeat
>
> BTW, setting the filename of an image means to refer it to a file on
> disk: according to the version of Rev you use, such a filename *must*
> be a complete or a relative path.
> The way you say it may be used with Rev 2.8 when images are in the
> same folder as the stack that uses them.
>
> Le 19 avr. 07 à 11:32, Tiemo Hollmann TB a écrit :
>
> > I think I have to stumble into every newbee pit and I think I have
> > read a
> > similar thread, but don't find it anymore.
> >
> > I have multiple images on a page which I gave numeric names to be
> > able to
> > process them in loops (that was my thinking).
> >
> > If I address theses images as:
> >
> > set the filename of image "1" .
> >
> > rev doesn't take the image with name 1, but number 1, though I put
> > the 1
> > into apostrophe???
> >
> > How can I force rev to take the image with name "1" or do I have to
> > take
> > only alpha names?
> >
> > Any hint appreciated
> >
> > Tiemo
>
> Best regards from Paris,
> Eric Chatonet.
>
> http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]/
>
>
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Re: how to adress the object name and not the number?
I second Eric's suggestion. It also comes in handy for keeping track
of images/objects for different purposes, e.g. "thumb1", "main2",
"preview3", "temp4" etc.
Looping through and deleting all the 'temp' images then becomes very
easy.
Ian
On 19 Apr 2007, at 10:51, Eric Chatonet wrote:
Name each image with a name followed by a numeric suffix: "img1'.
Then:
repeat with i = 1 to the number of imgs
if the threeD of img ("img" & i) then etc.
-- just an example :-)
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Re: how to adress the object name and not the number?
Hi again,
Naming objects with numbers is not really a good idea: this can
confuse Rev... and the programmer :-)
But you have many ways to achieve the goal:
Name each image with a name followed by a numeric suffix: "img1'.
Then:
repeat with i = 1 to the number of imgs
if the threeD of img ("img" & i) then etc.
-- just an example :-)
end repeat
Set the ID of each image to build a series (images are the only
objects the ID of which you may change as you want):
Then:
repeat with i = ID1 to ID2
if the threeD of img ID i then etc.
end repeat
BTW, setting the filename of an image means to refer it to a file on
disk: according to the version of Rev you use, such a filename *must*
be a complete or a relative path.
The way you say it may be used with Rev 2.8 when images are in the
same folder as the stack that uses them.
Le 19 avr. 07 à 11:32, Tiemo Hollmann TB a écrit :
I think I have to stumble into every newbee pit and I think I have
read a
similar thread, but don't find it anymore.
I have multiple images on a page which I gave numeric names to be
able to
process them in loops (that was my thinking).
If I address theses images as:
set the filename of image "1" .
rev doesn't take the image with name 1, but number 1, though I put
the 1
into apostrophe???
How can I force rev to take the image with name "1" or do I have to
take
only alpha names?
Any hint appreciated
Tiemo
Best regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet.
http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/
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Rev 2.8 on RDP is a total disaster
Bad habits never change. I updated to Rev 2.8 enterprise (no, actually i bought a new version) and I was expecting an improvement but not this!!! After nearly 8 years, I open the new runrev IDE on a server as I used to with Metacard and behold... ALL THE GRAPHICS ARE ALL SCREWED UP AGAIN! Not ONE color is correct... No this is not news!!! I've reported this problem back in 1999! But Rev actually managed to make it worse than metacard!!! All the icons are noised up (like a corrupted resource on a mac), text in the toolbar is just as bad where there is supposed to be a smooth shading... Fields are all black, and since the text is black too, you must select text to see what it says... Now, that was ok to paste (when copy or paste wants to work) in the license but when you have to edit a script it's "forget it!" the whole script editor field is BLACK! If anyone know how to work with rev in a virgin install of Rev 2.8 in a Win32 2003 server RDP session in 16 I would really appreciate it!!! I cant even debug my scripts!!! OOps, the documentation window is also all garbled up too!!! How this the developpers and testers manage to miss this??? Thanks in advance Xav Clearstream Services S.A. 42 Avenue JF Kennedy, L-1855 Luxembourg Société anonyme is organised with limited liability in the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg RC Luxembourg B 60911. - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. Legally required information for business correspondence/ Gesetzliche Pflichtangaben fuer Geschaeftskorrespondenz: http://deutsche-boerse.com/letterhead END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
how to adress the object name and not the number?
I think I have to stumble into every newbee pit and I think I have read a similar thread, but don't find it anymore. I have multiple images on a page which I gave numeric names to be able to process them in loops (that was my thinking). If I address theses images as: set the filename of image "1" . rev doesn't take the image with name 1, but number 1, though I put the 1 into apostrophe??? How can I force rev to take the image with name "1" or do I have to take only alpha names? Any hint appreciated Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: External problems
Hi, Are you on Mac, developping with Xcode ? Regards, thierry Le 18 avr. 07 à 19:20, Matthew a écrit : Undefined symbols: _getXtable (part of path removed)/ExternalsEnvironment2_mod/sha1_hash/cache/ Debug/sha1_hash.build/Objects-normal/ppc/sha1_hash.o reference to undefined _getXtable looking in both externals.c and externals.h i notice that getXtable is defined but not _getXtable. Is there something that I should change to fix this? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: What is the correct way to show a substack window?
Mercie Eric, sometimes solutions are so easy :) Tiemo > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use-revolution- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Eric Chatonet > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. April 2007 10:18 > An: How to use Revolution > Betreff: Re: What is the correct way to show a substack window? > > Hi Tiemo, > > Le 19 avr. 07 à 09:40, Tiemo Hollmann TB a écrit : > > > I just want to show (open) a substack as a new window (as toplevel). I > > thought, I just have to code: show stack "myStack", but nothing > > happens. > > > > I have to add: go card "myCard" of stack "myStack" to see the > > substack. But > > I don't want to "go" to that substack and get the focus on that > > stack. I > > tried it also with the visibility, what is obvious the same as "show" > > Showing a stack that is not open has no effect: > You must go to the stack or use a command as topLevel, modeless, > palette, etc. > As for keeping the focus, use the push/pop command: > >push cd >toplevel stack "myStack" >pop cd > > Best regards from Paris, > Eric Chatonet. > > http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ > [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: What is the correct way to show a substack window?
Hi Tiemo, Le 19 avr. 07 à 09:40, Tiemo Hollmann TB a écrit : I just want to show (open) a substack as a new window (as toplevel). I thought, I just have to code: show stack "myStack", but nothing happens. I have to add: go card "myCard" of stack "myStack" to see the substack. But I don't want to "go" to that substack and get the focus on that stack. I tried it also with the visibility, what is obvious the same as "show" Showing a stack that is not open has no effect: You must go to the stack or use a command as topLevel, modeless, palette, etc. As for keeping the focus, use the push/pop command: push cd toplevel stack "myStack" pop cd Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Sadly Hilarious
Here's another Apple spinoff political satire which has been making the rounds... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h3G-lMZxjo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
What is the correct way to show a substack window?
Sorry for this newbee question:-) I just want to show (open) a substack as a new window (as toplevel). I thought, I just have to code: show stack "myStack", but nothing happens. I have to add: go card "myCard" of stack "myStack" to see the substack. But I don't want to "go" to that substack and get the focus on that stack. I tried it also with the visibility, what is obvious the same as "show" I think I am missing some basics Thanks for any hints Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: image background is grey when printing
Hello Mark and Richard, yes, the cards background was explicit white. Meanwhile I created a new test stack, where this doesn't appear, but I don't find the difference, so I go the way with hiding the objects, what has also some other advantages for me. Thanks for answering Tiemo > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use-revolution- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Richard Gaskin > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. April 2007 09:20 > An: How to use Revolution > Betreff: Re: image background is grey when printing > > Tiemo Hollmann wrote: > > I have some image objects which don't have always a file > > assigned on my card with white background. > > Has the card's backgroundColor property been set to white, or does it > merely appear as white on screen but has merely been eft in its default > state with no color assigned? > > -- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World Media Corporation > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: image background is grey when printing
Tiemo Hollmann wrote: I have some image objects which don't have always a file assigned on my card with white background. Has the card's backgroundColor property been set to white, or does it merely appear as white on screen but has merely been eft in its default state with no color assigned? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] Sadly Hilarious
At the risk of bringing up politics on the list, the concept behind this skit is actually pretty creative. http://www.glumbert.com/media/irack Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: image background is grey when printing
Hi Tiemo, I think that hiding the images is a good solution. Why isn't it a satisfying answer? As you say yourself, the gray background is actually there. Of course, you could report it as a bug to the QC. Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 18-apr-2007, om 10:26 heeft Tiemo Hollmann TB het volgende geschreven: Hello, I have read the thread about the grey textfield background, but didn't find any answer yet for my similar problem. I have some image objects which don't have always a file assigned on my card with white background. Those image objects without a picture assigned are printed with a grey backround and not white, as displayed. I have detected, if I set the card background to black, I can see the grey background of the image object on my card as well. So I think it must have something to do with the transparency of the image object? The only solution I have found yet is to hide all image objects without file assigned before printing. But that is not a satisfying answer. Does anybody has experienced this before and has a straight solution? Thanks Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
