Re: News: Apache NetBeans has graduated from the Apache Incubator

[European Neuroscience Center]

Congratulations!!!
I am so happy :)

Miro.


On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 7:28 AM Tushar Joshi  wrote:

> Congratulations!!!
> Great news to enjoy and share with everyone.
> I am happy for this transition.
>
> with regards
> Tushar
>

Re: News: Apache NetBeans has graduated from the Apache Incubator

[Tushar Joshi]

Congratulations!!!
Great news to enjoy and share with everyone.
I am happy for this transition.

with regards
Tushar

Re: Questions related to the use of Netbeans

[Darin Miller]

1. Due to my inexperience, I am not using any plugin's for Java
development.  I welcome any recommendations.  (BTW, I just found the regex
plugin.  I don't know how to use it yet, but it would have been handy
several times during my development).
2. Our company was stuck on Java v. 1.6 until recently and as far as I
know, I am the sole Netbeans user at the company.  Java development is a
side responsibility and I have not had time nor "partner assistance" to
discover and appreciate new features.
3. Improvements needed:

   - Memory usage/footprint on NB 11 seems higher than 8.2. But I have not
   used it enough to fully evaluate.
   - Also, on 8.2 the search results "hover help" covers ups the search
   entries at the bottom of the list making mouse selection of the respective
   search entry impossible.  This seems to be fixed in NB11 (awesome!).
   - My large project will not load in NB 11 as "swing layout library is
   missing" and I have not figured out how easily fix the nearly 40 classes
   that are victims of this issue.
   - Better handling of mixed DPI environments both in the editor and in
   the Java apps.
   - X-platform, open source font packs to improve swing component
   consistency (maybe I just don' know how best manage what is already
   provided?)

4.  I inherited a Java project with over 100,000 lines of code in nearly 60
classes and I knew nothing about Java.  This project would have been
impossible to manage without an IDE.
Editing features I love about NB:

   - global and local searches in addition to selection highlighting
   - Alt-F7 (find usages)
   - ctrl-B (go to declaration),
   - And my absolute favorite: Ctrl-q cycles though the last edit
   location(s).

I see condescending comments online about real programmers do not use a
swing editor, but for a part time coder as I am, the swing editor is
awesome (sometime frustrating, but beats the hell of learning and
implementing every little form nuances of manual form control!).


5. NB was my 1st IDE.  I have also used Pycharm (impressive but overkill
for most of the python work I do) and KDevelop.  NB is my favorite, hands
down.

 o__
  >/
( )\( ) Darin | 208-991-4421


On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 5:31 AM Ko Turk  wrote:

> Hi Netbeans Users,
>
> currently I am researching the strengths and weaknesses of different IDEs.
> I think Netbeans is awesome in the integration with Maven. But I am also
> curious what you think about this great IDE!
>
> I hope you can help me in answering the following questions:
>
> 1. What are the best Netbeans plugins to use you think? And do you know
> some funny ones??
> 2. Are there any upcoming cool features?
> 3. What could be improved?
> 4. Why should the whole world use this IDE?
> 5. First IDE that you ever used? And why?
>
> Hope you can help me. Thanks!
>
> Regards,
> Ko Turk
>

Re: News: Apache NetBeans has graduated from the Apache Incubator

[Bayless]

WOOHOO! Congratulations to all of you who did so much.

Bayless


On 4/17/19 6:27 PM, Jiří Kovalský wrote:

Wow, vanilla ice-cream is cool but this news is even better!

Well deserved outcome of heroic work of plenty of people in their free 
time with no immediate results has inevitably come.


Wohooo!

-Jirka

Dne 18. 04. 19 v 0:36 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):


Hi all,

The ASF Board of Directors have just voted to establish the Apache 
NetBeans project as a top level project. Congrats to us all, for the 
hard work and dedication (and it only took 2 1/2 years)!


This is a public (binding) decision, so by means of this e-mail we 
are officially sharing the good news that we have left the Apache 
Incubator and are now an official Apache project.


Now comes the tasks of "un-incubating" all the resources we have, in 
the coming days -- for example, you'll see references to "incubating" 
being removed in various places.


Kind regards, and congrats to us all again,

Gj



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Re: News: Apache NetBeans has graduated from the Apache Incubator

[Jiří Kovalský]

Wow, vanilla ice-cream is cool but this news is even better!

Well deserved outcome of heroic work of plenty of people in their free 
time with no immediate results has inevitably come.


Wohooo!

-Jirka

Dne 18. 04. 19 v 0:36 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):


Hi all,

The ASF Board of Directors have just voted to establish the Apache 
NetBeans project as a top level project. Congrats to us all, for the 
hard work and dedication (and it only took 2 1/2 years)!


This is a public (binding) decision, so by means of this e-mail we are 
officially sharing the good news that we have left the Apache Incubator 
and are now an official Apache project.


Now comes the tasks of "un-incubating" all the resources we have, in the 
coming days -- for example, you'll see references to "incubating" being 
removed in various places.


Kind regards, and congrats to us all again,

Gj



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Re: News: Apache NetBeans has graduated from the Apache Incubator

[Junichi Yamamoto]

Really great news! Congratulations!!!

Have a nice day,
Junichi

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 7:36 AM Geertjan Wielenga  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> The ASF Board of Directors have just voted to establish the Apache NetBeans
> project as a top level project. Congrats to us all, for the hard work and
> dedication (and it only took 2 1/2 years)!
>
> This is a public (binding) decision, so by means of this e-mail we are
> officially sharing the good news that we have left the Apache Incubator and
> are now an official Apache project.
>
> Now comes the tasks of "un-incubating" all the resources we have, in the
> coming days -- for example, you'll see references to "incubating" being
> removed in various places.
>
> Kind regards, and congrats to us all again,
>
> Gj

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Re: Questions related to the use of Netbeans

[Alex O'Ree]

https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=247416

The TODO Syntax highlighter is a must for me. It should be in baked in IMO.

On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 5:29 PM Jonathan Bergh 
wrote:

> 1. What are the best Netbeans plugins to use you think? And do you know
> some funny ones??
> SpringBoot, Darcula
>
> 2. Are there any upcoming cool features?
> C/C++
>
> 3. What could be improved?
> Gradle integration used to be slightly irritating (Netbeans used to always
> open a project preferentially as a maven project if a pom.xml was also
> present, even if the previous session opened it as a gradle project)
> but gradle support is now integrated and this shouldnt be a problem
> anymore.
>
> 4. Why should the whole world use this IDE?
> Open source, multi-language support, from HTML / JS to Java / Groovy to
> C/C++, even Python. You never have to switch to another IDE between
> projects.
> Awesome for J2EE support
>
> 5. First IDE that you ever used? And why?
> Eclipse, as this is what the institute i was at recommended.
>
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 1:31 PM Ko Turk  wrote:
>
>> Hi Netbeans Users,
>>
>> currently I am researching the strengths and weaknesses of different
>> IDEs. I think Netbeans is awesome in the integration with Maven. But I am
>> also curious what you think about this great IDE!
>>
>> I hope you can help me in answering the following questions:
>>
>> 1. What are the best Netbeans plugins to use you think? And do you know
>> some funny ones??
>> 2. Are there any upcoming cool features?
>> 3. What could be improved?
>> 4. Why should the whole world use this IDE?
>> 5. First IDE that you ever used? And why?
>>
>> Hope you can help me. Thanks!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ko Turk
>>
>

News: Apache NetBeans has graduated from the Apache Incubator

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Hi all,

The ASF Board of Directors have just voted to establish the Apache NetBeans
project as a top level project. Congrats to us all, for the hard work and
dedication (and it only took 2 1/2 years)!

This is a public (binding) decision, so by means of this e-mail we are
officially sharing the good news that we have left the Apache Incubator and
are now an official Apache project.

Now comes the tasks of "un-incubating" all the resources we have, in the
coming days -- for example, you'll see references to "incubating" being
removed in various places.

Kind regards, and congrats to us all again,

Gj

Re: [C/C++] Debugger does not stop at breakpoint

[Geertjan Wielenga]

NetBeans 10.0 does not support C/C++. You've probably installed plugins
from 8.2, or you must have, which may or may not work, i.e., you're using
untested features, and there's no promise that this will work.

Gj

On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 6:12 PM Ulf Zibis  wrote:

> A polite Ping!
>
> -Ulf
> Am 12.04.19 um 17:27 schrieb Ulf Zibis:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a C-project here, a clone from the famous FFmpeg:
>
> git clone git://source.ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg 
>
> make creates 2 binaries, ffmpeg and ffmpeg_g, the latter with debug
> symbols.
>
> When I use the latter with Debug Project, I expect the processing would
> stop at a set Breakpoint in the source file, but that doesn't happen.
>
> Any idea why?
>
> I'm running NetBeans IDE 10 on Ubuntu 18.04
>
> -Ulf
>
>

Re: [C/C++] Debugger does not stop at breakpoint

[Ulf Zibis]

A polite Ping!

-Ulf

Am 12.04.19 um 17:27 schrieb Ulf Zibis:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a C-project here, a clone from the famous FFmpeg:
>
> git clone git://source.ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg 
>
> make creates 2 binaries, ffmpeg and ffmpeg_g, the latter with debug
> symbols.
>
> When I use the latter with Debug Project, I expect the processing
> would stop at a set Breakpoint in the source file, but that doesn't
> happen.
>
> Any idea why?
>
> I'm running NetBeans IDE 10 on Ubuntu 18.04
>
> -Ulf
>

Re: Questions related to the use of Netbeans

[Jonathan Bergh]

 1. What are the best Netbeans plugins to use you think? And do you know
some funny ones??
SpringBoot, Darcula

2. Are there any upcoming cool features?
C/C++

3. What could be improved?
Gradle integration used to be slightly irritating (Netbeans used to always
open a project preferentially as a maven project if a pom.xml was also
present, even if the previous session opened it as a gradle project)
but gradle support is now integrated and this shouldnt be a problem
anymore.

4. Why should the whole world use this IDE?
Open source, multi-language support, from HTML / JS to Java / Groovy to
C/C++, even Python. You never have to switch to another IDE between
projects.
Awesome for J2EE support

5. First IDE that you ever used? And why?
Eclipse, as this is what the institute i was at recommended.

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 1:31 PM Ko Turk  wrote:

> Hi Netbeans Users,
>
> currently I am researching the strengths and weaknesses of different IDEs.
> I think Netbeans is awesome in the integration with Maven. But I am also
> curious what you think about this great IDE!
>
> I hope you can help me in answering the following questions:
>
> 1. What are the best Netbeans plugins to use you think? And do you know
> some funny ones??
> 2. Are there any upcoming cool features?
> 3. What could be improved?
> 4. Why should the whole world use this IDE?
> 5. First IDE that you ever used? And why?
>
> Hope you can help me. Thanks!
>
> Regards,
> Ko Turk
>

Re: Questions related to the use of Netbeans

[Ko Turk]

I am just curious why people are using certain IDEs. I am really excited when I 
am reading (and learning) new stuff (for example the cool plugins you guys 
sent). Never knew there was a Darcula theme or the Jeddict plugin.

I want to use the content for my new talk “The Battle of the IDEs”.
Thanks for the help!

Ko


On 17 Apr 2019, at 21:54, Geertjan Wielenga 
mailto:geert...@apache.org>> wrote:

Hi Ko,

A challenge you have here is that NetBeans is many different things to 
different people. You’re not likely to get a representative response, just 
random people saying random things, rather than something meaningful that 
anything can seriously be drawn from.

Gj


On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 15:51, Geertjan Wielenga 
mailto:geert...@apache.org>> wrote:


On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 14:55, mailto:s...@slimdude.com>> 
wrote:

On 4/17/19 10:57 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

Can a few more people respond to this thread, please
On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 7:31 AM Ko Turk 
mailto:ko.t...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:

Hi Netbeans Users,

currently I am researching the strengths and weaknesses of
different IDEs. I think Netbeans is awesome in the integration
with Maven. But I am also curious what you think about this
great IDE!

I hope you can help me in answering the following questions:

1. What are the best Netbeans plugins to use you think? And do
you know some funny ones??

Kay Wrobel's Crud Generator for Netbeans - worked until post 8.2 builds, 
anyways.


2. Are there any upcoming cool features?

Hopefully full support for Wildfly


3. What could be improved?

Adding features by creating projects is awkward.


4. Why should the whole world use this IDE?

Because it's open source. And, of course... because it's an Apache project!


5. First IDE that you ever used? And why?

Turbo Basic for DOS. Because it was cheap and it got the job done. And IDE's 
were the latest new thing. No, I'm still not yet retired. ;)

Cheers,

Slim

Re: NB 11 crashes on Mac

[Thomas Wolf]

Thanks Wade.  Next time this happens, I will be sure to copy/paste the
entire JVM stack trace that gets shown when "Report..." is selected.
That'll at least tell us if it's the same 2d bug.
tom

On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 3:11 PM Wade Chandler 
wrote:

> See this too
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/6cea044b220876ef9eba9068e3ec28bb8283e116b65e3ea4078af9c1@%3Cusers.netbeans.apache.org%3E
>
> I was thinking perhaps it was due to an older JDK build, but we were
> talking 1.8 range, and with you having it in Java 11 then not sure. The
> linked Java 2D bug is still open, so this may be an opportunity for us to
> try to track it down.
>
> Wade
>
> On Apr 17, 2019, at 2:58 PM, Thomas Wolf  wrote:
>
> Yes, this doesn't happen on a regular basis.  I upgraded to NB 11 a few
> weeks ago and it's happened 3-4 times so far.  And it invariably happens
> while NB is not even being used (e.g. a bit after I come in to work,
> reconnecting my 2 external monitors to my MBP and while I'm reading news or
> mail; NB is iconified or hidden behind the current window.)  I'm not even
> sure whether NB 11 is to blame or the JRE.  When I switched from NB 8.2 to
> NB 11, I also switched from a Java 8 VM to a Java 11 VM - maybe it's a bug
> in the VM.  When a VM crashes on a Mac, does it produce a core dump
> somewhere?
>
> Thnx,
> Tom
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 2:08 PM Geertjan Wielenga 
> wrote:
>
>> If you can provide a way for the problem to be reproduced, or the log
>> files exactly at the moment where the crash happens, we can try to
>> investigate.
>>
>> But if I understand it correctly, this only happens after you’re using
>> multiple monitors, switching things off, switching things on, leaving work,
>> coming home, switching off and on, and a few other things like that?
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 13:36, Thomas Wolf  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Geertjan,
>>> This was a crash of the NB JVM, so I didn't think NB would have had an
>>> opportunity to write anything before it croaked.  But I went to Application
>>> Support/NetBeans/11.0/var/log and checked there to see if there was the
>>> equivalent of a core dump.  But just the messages.  Since  I had restarted
>>> NB since the crash, I looked in messages.log.1 to see if there were any
>>> messages prior to the crash.  Looking back a couple hundred lines back from
>>> the end of the log, I see:
>>>   WARNING
>>> [org.netbeans.modules.javascript2.editor.formatter.FormatContext]: Tried to
>>> remove EOL
>>>   WARNING [null]: Last record repeated again.
>>>   WARNING [null]: Last record repeated again.
>>>
>>> followed by 167 WARNING messages like this:
>>>   WARNING
>>> [org.netbeans.modules.editor.bracesmatching.MasterMatcher]: Origin offsets
>>> out of range, origin = [671, 698], caretOffset = 727,
>>>   lookahead = 1, searching forward. Offending BracesMatcher:
>>> org.netbeans.modules.html.editor.HtmlBracesMatching@1293bde1
>>>
>>> with only the coordinates & the caretOffset changing.  Followed by the
>>> WARNING message:
>>>   WARNING [org.netbeans.modules.versioning.util.Utils]:
>>> associateEncoding() no file object available for
>>>
>>> /var/folders/gz/86n0ss0j65q2v4mk50wfnx8hgn/T/vcs-1555092873422/vcs-1555362477084/index.html
>>>
>>> followed by the WARNING message:
>>>   WARNING [org.netbeans.core.TimableEventQueue]: too much time
>>> in AWT thread null
>>>
>>> followed by three WARNING messages like this one:
>>>   WARNING [org.netbeans.core.TimableEventQueue]: too much time
>>> in AWT thread org.netbeans.modules.sampler.InternalSampler@662b36a1
>>>
>>> That's it.  Since there are no time stamps on any of these entries, I
>>> have no idea whether these happened just before the crash or hours/days
>>> before.  Is there anywhere else I should/could be looking for clues?  Is
>>> this info enough to go on to open a Jira ticket?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tom
>>> p.s. here's the beginning of the log file:
>>>
>>> >Log Session: Friday, April 12, 2019 at 2:14:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>>> >System Info:
>>>   Product Version = Apache NetBeans IDE 11.0 (Build
>>> incubator-netbeans-release-404-on-20190319)
>>>   Operating System= Mac OS X version 10.14.4 running on x86_64
>>>   Java; VM; Vendor= 11.0.1; Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM
>>> 11.0.1+13-LTS; Oracle Corporation
>>>   Runtime = Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment 11.0.1+13-LTS
>>>   Java Home   =
>>> /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk-11.0.1.jdk/Contents/Home
>>>   System Locale; Encoding = en_US (nb); UTF-8
>>>   Home Directory  = /Users/thwolf
>>>   Current Directory   = /
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 11:55 AM Geertjan Wielenga 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 You’re always going to find NetBeans messages and log files in the user
 directory.

 Gj


 On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 11:47, Thomas Wolf  wrote:

> Thanks Josh for your environment.  Here's mine (should have 

Re: Questions related to the use of Netbeans

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Hi Ko,

A challenge you have here is that NetBeans is many different things to
different people. You’re not likely to get a representative response, just
random people saying random things, rather than something meaningful that
anything can seriously be drawn from.

Gj


On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 15:51, Geertjan Wielenga  wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 14:55,  wrote:
>
>> On 4/17/19 10:57 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>
>> Can a few more people respond to this thread, please
>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 7:31 AM Ko Turk > > wrote:
>>
>> Hi Netbeans Users,
>>
>> currently I am researching the strengths and weaknesses of
>> different IDEs. I think Netbeans is awesome in the integration
>> with Maven. But I am also curious what you think about this
>> great IDE!
>>
>> I hope you can help me in answering the following questions:
>>
>> 1. What are the best Netbeans plugins to use you think? And do
>> you know some funny ones??
>>
>> Kay Wrobel's Crud Generator for Netbeans - worked until post 8.2 builds,
>> anyways.
>>
>> 2. Are there any upcoming cool features?
>>
>> Hopefully full support for Wildfly
>>
>> 3. What could be improved?
>>
>> Adding features by creating projects is awkward.
>>
>> 4. Why should the whole world use this IDE?
>>
>> Because it's open source. And, of course... because it's an Apache
>> project!
>>
>> 5. First IDE that you ever used? And why?
>>
>> Turbo Basic for DOS. Because it was cheap and it got the job done. And
>> IDE's were the latest new thing. No, I'm still not yet retired. ;)
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Slim
>>
>

Re: Questions related to the use of Netbeans

[Geertjan Wielenga]

On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 14:55,  wrote:

> On 4/17/19 10:57 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>
> Can a few more people respond to this thread, please
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 7:31 AM Ko Turk  > wrote:
>
> Hi Netbeans Users,
>
> currently I am researching the strengths and weaknesses of
> different IDEs. I think Netbeans is awesome in the integration
> with Maven. But I am also curious what you think about this
> great IDE!
>
> I hope you can help me in answering the following questions:
>
> 1. What are the best Netbeans plugins to use you think? And do
> you know some funny ones??
>
> Kay Wrobel's Crud Generator for Netbeans - worked until post 8.2 builds,
> anyways.
>
> 2. Are there any upcoming cool features?
>
> Hopefully full support for Wildfly
>
> 3. What could be improved?
>
> Adding features by creating projects is awkward.
>
> 4. Why should the whole world use this IDE?
>
> Because it's open source. And, of course... because it's an Apache
> project!
>
> 5. First IDE that you ever used? And why?
>
> Turbo Basic for DOS. Because it was cheap and it got the job done. And
> IDE's were the latest new thing. No, I'm still not yet retired. ;)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Slim
>

Re: Questions related to the use of Netbeans

[Ko Turk]

Wow! Thanks for the responses guys!

On 17 Apr 2019, at 18:38, Geertjan Wielenga 
mailto:geert...@apache.org>> wrote:

Thanks, just please reply to the whole mailing list for this thread. :-) Keep 
them coming everyone, let’s give Ko some data to work with.

Gj

On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 12:06, João Verissimo - Câmara Municipal de Ferreira do 
Zêzere 
mailto:joao.veriss...@cm-ferreiradozezere.pt>>
 wrote:

1.What are the best Netbeans plugins to use you think? And do you know some 
funny ones??

PHP symfony support, and html code completion

2.Are there any upcoming cool features?

Twig code validation.

3.What could be improved?

Support for symfony flex, twig, doctrine, PHP debugger.

4.Why should the whole world use this IDE?

It a cool ide that is nice to use without being to complicate to start using.
5. First IDE that you ever used? And why?
Java bluej, free and school recommendation.


De: Geertjan Wielenga mailto:geert...@apache.org>>
Enviada: 17 de abril de 2019 16:57
Para: NetBeans Mailing List 
mailto:users@netbeans.apache.org>>
Cc: Ko Turk mailto:ko.t...@hotmail.com>>
Assunto: Re: Questions related to the use of Netbeans

Hi all,

Can a few more people respond to this thread, please?

Thanks,

Gj


On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 16:57, Walter Nyland 
mailto:walternyl...@yahoo.com.invalid>> wrote:
1. Jeddict: http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/53057/jeddict

2. Inclusion of localization bundles: 
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/1167

3. C/C++ integration, but that's coming, part of a next donation.

4. It's simply the best in terms of comprehensiveness and breadth of features.

5. Eclipse, mandated by my employer, then switched to NetBeans.

Thanks!

Walt


On Tuesday, April 16, 2019, 10:47:48 PM GMT+2, Geertjan Wielenga 
mailto:geert...@apache.org>> wrote:


1. Darcula: http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/62424/darcula-laf-for-netbeans
2. JEP 330, i.e., support for single-file source code programs: 
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/1171

3. The sense of ownership right across the developer and user communities of 
NetBeans.

4. Because the Apache Software Foundation provides the basis of an unparalleled 
level of participation.

5. NetBeans, because Sun Microsystems hired me to write documentation for it in 
2004, which was the start of my journey into programming.

Gj



On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 7:31 AM Ko Turk 
mailto:ko.t...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Netbeans Users,

currently I am researching the strengths and weaknesses of different IDEs. I 
think Netbeans is awesome in the integration with Maven. But I am also curious 
what you think about this great IDE!

I hope you can help me in answering the following questions:

1. What are the best Netbeans plugins to use you think? And do you know some 
funny ones??
2. Are there any upcoming cool features?
3. What could be improved?
4. Why should the whole world use this IDE?
5. First IDE that you ever used? And why?

Hope you can help me. Thanks!

Regards,
Ko Turk



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Re: NetBeans 11.0-vc4 crash

[Antonio]

Hi Philip,

Thread 26 crashes [1]. As you can see in our text file, this is in 
libawt_lwawt.dylib (Java_sun_java2d_opengl_OGLRenderQueue_flushBuffer), 
which is inside the Java Virtual Machine. There's little we can do in 
the NetBeans side.


You may want to open a bug report in the OpenJDK Project, stating your 
OSX/Version (try to be as precise as possible) and the exact version of 
your JVM (it's also in the .txt file), and attaching the .txt file in 
the report as well for them to inspect.


Cheers,
Antonio

[1]


Thread 26 Crashed:: Java: Java2D Queue Flusher
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib  0x7fff5f9c623e __pthread_kill + 10
1   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fff5fa7cc1c pthread_kill + 285
2   libsystem_c.dylib   0x7fff5f92f1c9 abort + 127
3   libjvm.dylib0x00010486029d os::abort(bool) + 25
4   libjvm.dylib  	0x00010498496a 
VMError::report_and_die() + 2304
5   libjvm.dylib  	0x000104861f1a 
JVM_handle_bsd_signal + 1131
6   libjvm.dylib  	0x00010485e127 signalHandler(int, 
__siginfo*, void*) + 47

7   libsystem_platform.dylib0x7fff5fa71b3d _sigtramp + 29
8   ??? 0x7fafe0940540 0 + 140393363801408
9   libawt_lwawt.dylib	0x0001240eb5f2 
Java_sun_java2d_opengl_OGLRenderQueue_flushBuffer + 1594

10  ??? 0x0001113664ea 0 + 4583744746
11  ??? 0x000116228174 0 + 4666327412


El 10/04/2019 a las 15:12, Philip Durbin escribió:

Do not fear. I did save the text from when Netbeans crashed and I'm
attaching it (netbeans-crash.txt). I sure hope there's nothing super
private in there. I assume it's safe to share publicly or you wouldn't be
encouraging me to. :)

Also, here's my Java version:

$ java -version
openjdk version "1.8.0_192"
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (AdoptOpenJDK)(build 1.8.0_192-b12)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (AdoptOpenJDK)(build 25.192-b12, mixed mode)

Thanks,

Phil

On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 12:58 AM Antonio  wrote:


Hi Phil,

This looks like an issue with your own JDK.

If this happens again, will you please post the full _text_ of the error
instead of a screenshot? There's important info if you scroll down in
that image! Even better: file a JIRA issue with that.

Thanks,
Antonio

El 04/04/2019 a las 21:16, Philip Durbin escribió:

I don't know if you want crash reports or not but this just appeared in

the

output of mine (first crash of NetBeans 11.0-vc4 for me):

Thread 46:: Java:

org.netbeans.modules.glassfish.common.LogViewMgr$LoggerRu


This is on Mac. I'll attach a screenshot.

Thanks,

Phil



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Re: NB 11 crashes on Mac

[Wade Chandler]

See this too 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/6cea044b220876ef9eba9068e3ec28bb8283e116b65e3ea4078af9c1@%3Cusers.netbeans.apache.org%3E
 


I was thinking perhaps it was due to an older JDK build, but we were talking 
1.8 range, and with you having it in Java 11 then not sure. The linked Java 2D 
bug is still open, so this may be an opportunity for us to try to track it down.

Wade

> On Apr 17, 2019, at 2:58 PM, Thomas Wolf  wrote:
> 
> Yes, this doesn't happen on a regular basis.  I upgraded to NB 11 a few weeks 
> ago and it's happened 3-4 times so far.  And it invariably happens while NB 
> is not even being used (e.g. a bit after I come in to work, reconnecting my 2 
> external monitors to my MBP and while I'm reading news or mail; NB is 
> iconified or hidden behind the current window.)  I'm not even sure whether NB 
> 11 is to blame or the JRE.  When I switched from NB 8.2 to NB 11, I also 
> switched from a Java 8 VM to a Java 11 VM - maybe it's a bug in the VM.  When 
> a VM crashes on a Mac, does it produce a core dump somewhere?
> 
> Thnx,
> Tom
> 
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 2:08 PM Geertjan Wielenga  > wrote:
> If you can provide a way for the problem to be reproduced, or the log files 
> exactly at the moment where the crash happens, we can try to investigate. 
> 
> But if I understand it correctly, this only happens after you’re using 
> multiple monitors, switching things off, switching things on, leaving work, 
> coming home, switching off and on, and a few other things like that?
> 
> Gj
> 
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 13:36, Thomas Wolf  > wrote:
> Hi Geertjan,
> This was a crash of the NB JVM, so I didn't think NB would have had an 
> opportunity to write anything before it croaked.  But I went to Application 
> Support/NetBeans/11.0/var/log and checked there to see if there was the 
> equivalent of a core dump.  But just the messages.  Since  I had restarted NB 
> since the crash, I looked in messages.log.1 to see if there were any messages 
> prior to the crash.  Looking back a couple hundred lines back from the end of 
> the log, I see:
>   WARNING 
> [org.netbeans.modules.javascript2.editor.formatter.FormatContext]: Tried to 
> remove EOL
>   WARNING [null]: Last record repeated again.
>   WARNING [null]: Last record repeated again.
> 
> followed by 167 WARNING messages like this:
>   WARNING [org.netbeans.modules.editor.bracesmatching.MasterMatcher]: 
> Origin offsets out of range, origin = [671, 698], caretOffset = 727,
>   lookahead = 1, searching forward. Offending BracesMatcher: 
> org.netbeans.modules.html.editor.HtmlBracesMatching@1293bde1
> 
> with only the coordinates & the caretOffset changing.  Followed by the 
> WARNING message:
>   WARNING [org.netbeans.modules.versioning.util.Utils]: 
> associateEncoding() no file object available for
>   
> /var/folders/gz/86n0ss0j65q2v4mk50wfnx8hgn/T/vcs-1555092873422/vcs-1555362477084/index.html
> 
> followed by the WARNING message:
>   WARNING [org.netbeans.core.TimableEventQueue]: too much time in AWT 
> thread null
> 
> followed by three WARNING messages like this one:
>   WARNING [org.netbeans.core.TimableEventQueue]: too much time in AWT 
> thread org.netbeans.modules.sampler.InternalSampler@662b36a1
> 
> That's it.  Since there are no time stamps on any of these entries, I have no 
> idea whether these happened just before the crash or hours/days before.  Is 
> there anywhere else I should/could be looking for clues?  Is this info enough 
> to go on to open a Jira ticket?
> 
> Thanks,
> Tom
> p.s. here's the beginning of the log file:
> 
> >Log Session: Friday, April 12, 2019 at 2:14:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time
> >System Info:
>   Product Version = Apache NetBeans IDE 11.0 (Build 
> incubator-netbeans-release-404-on-20190319)
>   Operating System= Mac OS X version 10.14.4 running on x86_64
>   Java; VM; Vendor= 11.0.1; Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM 
> 11.0.1+13-LTS; Oracle Corporation
>   Runtime = Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment 11.0.1+13-LTS
>   Java Home   = 
> /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk-11.0.1.jdk/Contents/Home
>   System Locale; Encoding = en_US (nb); UTF-8
>   Home Directory  = /Users/thwolf
>   Current Directory   = /
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 11:55 AM Geertjan Wielenga  > wrote:
> You’re always going to find NetBeans messages and log files in the user 
> directory.
> 
> Gj
> 
> 
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 11:47, Thomas Wolf  > wrote:
> Thanks Josh for your environment.  Here's mine (should have included that 
> with my initial post):
> Build incubator-netbeans-release-404-on-20190319)
> Java: 11.0.1; Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM 

Re: NB 11 crashes on Mac

[Thomas Wolf]

Yes, this doesn't happen on a regular basis.  I upgraded to NB 11 a few
weeks ago and it's happened 3-4 times so far.  And it invariably happens
while NB is not even being used (e.g. a bit after I come in to work,
reconnecting my 2 external monitors to my MBP and while I'm reading news or
mail; NB is iconified or hidden behind the current window.)  I'm not even
sure whether NB 11 is to blame or the JRE.  When I switched from NB 8.2 to
NB 11, I also switched from a Java 8 VM to a Java 11 VM - maybe it's a bug
in the VM.  When a VM crashes on a Mac, does it produce a core dump
somewhere?

Thnx,
Tom

On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 2:08 PM Geertjan Wielenga 
wrote:

> If you can provide a way for the problem to be reproduced, or the log
> files exactly at the moment where the crash happens, we can try to
> investigate.
>
> But if I understand it correctly, this only happens after you’re using
> multiple monitors, switching things off, switching things on, leaving work,
> coming home, switching off and on, and a few other things like that?
>
> Gj
>
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 13:36, Thomas Wolf  wrote:
>
>> Hi Geertjan,
>> This was a crash of the NB JVM, so I didn't think NB would have had an
>> opportunity to write anything before it croaked.  But I went to Application
>> Support/NetBeans/11.0/var/log and checked there to see if there was the
>> equivalent of a core dump.  But just the messages.  Since  I had restarted
>> NB since the crash, I looked in messages.log.1 to see if there were any
>> messages prior to the crash.  Looking back a couple hundred lines back from
>> the end of the log, I see:
>>   WARNING
>> [org.netbeans.modules.javascript2.editor.formatter.FormatContext]: Tried to
>> remove EOL
>>   WARNING [null]: Last record repeated again.
>>   WARNING [null]: Last record repeated again.
>>
>> followed by 167 WARNING messages like this:
>>   WARNING
>> [org.netbeans.modules.editor.bracesmatching.MasterMatcher]: Origin offsets
>> out of range, origin = [671, 698], caretOffset = 727,
>>   lookahead = 1, searching forward. Offending BracesMatcher:
>> org.netbeans.modules.html.editor.HtmlBracesMatching@1293bde1
>>
>> with only the coordinates & the caretOffset changing.  Followed by the
>> WARNING message:
>>   WARNING [org.netbeans.modules.versioning.util.Utils]:
>> associateEncoding() no file object available for
>>
>> /var/folders/gz/86n0ss0j65q2v4mk50wfnx8hgn/T/vcs-1555092873422/vcs-1555362477084/index.html
>>
>> followed by the WARNING message:
>>   WARNING [org.netbeans.core.TimableEventQueue]: too much time in
>> AWT thread null
>>
>> followed by three WARNING messages like this one:
>>   WARNING [org.netbeans.core.TimableEventQueue]: too much time in
>> AWT thread org.netbeans.modules.sampler.InternalSampler@662b36a1
>>
>> That's it.  Since there are no time stamps on any of these entries, I
>> have no idea whether these happened just before the crash or hours/days
>> before.  Is there anywhere else I should/could be looking for clues?  Is
>> this info enough to go on to open a Jira ticket?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tom
>> p.s. here's the beginning of the log file:
>>
>> >Log Session: Friday, April 12, 2019 at 2:14:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>> >System Info:
>>   Product Version = Apache NetBeans IDE 11.0 (Build
>> incubator-netbeans-release-404-on-20190319)
>>   Operating System= Mac OS X version 10.14.4 running on x86_64
>>   Java; VM; Vendor= 11.0.1; Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM
>> 11.0.1+13-LTS; Oracle Corporation
>>   Runtime = Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment 11.0.1+13-LTS
>>   Java Home   =
>> /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk-11.0.1.jdk/Contents/Home
>>   System Locale; Encoding = en_US (nb); UTF-8
>>   Home Directory  = /Users/thwolf
>>   Current Directory   = /
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 11:55 AM Geertjan Wielenga 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You’re always going to find NetBeans messages and log files in the user
>>> directory.
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 11:47, Thomas Wolf  wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Josh for your environment.  Here's mine (should have included
 that with my initial post):
 Build incubator-netbeans-release-404-on-20190319)
 Java: 11.0.1; Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM 11.0.1+13-LTS
 Runtime: Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment 11.0.1+13-LTS
 System: Mac OS X version 10.14.4

 I'm using a much more recent version of Java and macOS than you.  I
 won't change my OS for NB, but if I get desperate, I might try going back
 to Java 8.  But I wasn't really looking for a workaround - it doesn't
 happen all that frequently and I simply restart the IDE.  No big deal.  But
 it is a pretty severe bug and I wanted to file a Jira ticket (if one
 doesn't already exist) and provide relevant log/crash info.  I posted
 because I was looking for someone to point me to where, on the Mac, to look
 for 

Re: Questions related to the use of Netbeans

[slim]

On 4/17/19 10:57 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

> Can a few more people respond to this thread, please
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 7:31 AM Ko Turk  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Netbeans Users,
> 
> currently I am researching the strengths and weaknesses of
> different IDEs. I think Netbeans is awesome in the integration
> with Maven. But I am also curious what you think about this
> great IDE!
> 
> I hope you can help me in answering the following questions:
> 
> 1. What are the best Netbeans plugins to use you think? And do
> you know some funny ones??

Kay Wrobel's Crud Generator for Netbeans - worked until post 8.2 builds,
anyways.

> 2. Are there any upcoming cool features?

Hopefully full support for Wildfly

> 3. What could be improved?

Adding features by creating projects is awkward. 

> 4. Why should the whole world use this IDE?

Because it's open source. And, of course... because it's an Apache
project! 

> 5. First IDE that you ever used? And why?

Turbo Basic for DOS. Because it was cheap and it got the job done. And
IDE's were the latest new thing. No, I'm still not yet retired. ;) 

Cheers, 

Slim

Re: Questions related to the use of Netbeans

[Glenn Holmer]

On 4/17/19 10:57 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> Can a few more people respond to this thread, please
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 7:31 AM Ko Turk  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Netbeans Users,
> 
> currently I am researching the strengths and weaknesses of
> different IDEs. I think Netbeans is awesome in the integration
> with Maven. But I am also curious what you think about this
> great IDE!
> 
> I hope you can help me in answering the following questions:
> 
> 1. What are the best Netbeans plugins to use you think? And do
> you know some funny ones??
I don't generally install any plugins outside of those that NetBeans
provides or downloads for me (e.g. nb-javac).

> 2. Are there any upcoming cool features? 
C/C++ support is coming up.

> 3. What could be improved? 
JavaFX support seems problematical. Some people have reported problems
with FX projects, while others have proposed wildly differing solutions.

> 4. Why should the whole world use this IDE? 
Because it just works out-of-box (it even includes a profiler) and it's
open source. And, of course... because it's an Apache project!

> 5. First IDE that you ever used? And why?
NetBeans 3.3(?) sometime around 2000. We'd been coding small desktop
Java apps for our factory and warehouse using a text editor, which was
impractical. We first looked at an early version of NetBeans, which
didn't perform well. Then we looked at IBM's Visual Age for Java, which
taught us the true meaning of pain and suffering. By this time NetBeans
had matured enough to be useful, and the company was still using it when
I retired in 2014.

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Fwd: NB 11 crashes on Mac

[Thomas Wolf]

Hi Geertjan,
This was a crash of the NB JVM, so I didn't think NB would have had an
opportunity to write anything before it croaked.  But I went to Application
Support/NetBeans/11.0/var/log and checked there to see if there was the
equivalent of a core dump.  But just the messages.  Since  I had restarted
NB since the crash, I looked in messages.log.1 to see if there were any
messages prior to the crash.  Looking back a couple hundred lines back from
the end of the log, I see:
  WARNING
[org.netbeans.modules.javascript2.editor.formatter.FormatContext]: Tried to
remove EOL
  WARNING [null]: Last record repeated again.
  WARNING [null]: Last record repeated again.

followed by 167 WARNING messages like this:
  WARNING
[org.netbeans.modules.editor.bracesmatching.MasterMatcher]: Origin offsets
out of range, origin = [671, 698], caretOffset = 727,
  lookahead = 1, searching forward. Offending BracesMatcher:
org.netbeans.modules.html.editor.HtmlBracesMatching@1293bde1

with only the coordinates & the caretOffset changing.  Followed by the
WARNING message:
  WARNING [org.netbeans.modules.versioning.util.Utils]:
associateEncoding() no file object available for

/var/folders/gz/86n0ss0j65q2v4mk50wfnx8hgn/T/vcs-1555092873422/vcs-1555362477084/index.html

followed by the WARNING message:
  WARNING [org.netbeans.core.TimableEventQueue]: too much time in
AWT thread null

followed by three WARNING messages like this one:
  WARNING [org.netbeans.core.TimableEventQueue]: too much time in
AWT thread org.netbeans.modules.sampler.InternalSampler@662b36a1

That's it.  Since there are no time stamps on any of these entries, I have
no idea whether these happened just before the crash or hours/days before.
Is there anywhere else I should/could be looking for clues?  Is this info
enough to go on to open a Jira ticket?

Thanks,
Tom
p.s. here's the beginning of the log file:

>Log Session: Friday, April 12, 2019 at 2:14:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>System Info:
  Product Version = Apache NetBeans IDE 11.0 (Build
incubator-netbeans-release-404-on-20190319)
  Operating System= Mac OS X version 10.14.4 running on x86_64
  Java; VM; Vendor= 11.0.1; Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM
11.0.1+13-LTS; Oracle Corporation
  Runtime = Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment 11.0.1+13-LTS
  Java Home   =
/Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk-11.0.1.jdk/Contents/Home
  System Locale; Encoding = en_US (nb); UTF-8
  Home Directory  = /Users/thwolf
  Current Directory   = /


On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 11:55 AM Geertjan Wielenga 
wrote:

> You’re always going to find NetBeans messages and log files in the user
> directory.
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 11:47, Thomas Wolf  wrote:
>
>> Thanks Josh for your environment.  Here's mine (should have included that
>> with my initial post):
>> Build incubator-netbeans-release-404-on-20190319)
>> Java: 11.0.1; Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM 11.0.1+13-LTS
>> Runtime: Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment 11.0.1+13-LTS
>> System: Mac OS X version 10.14.4
>>
>> I'm using a much more recent version of Java and macOS than you.  I won't
>> change my OS for NB, but if I get desperate, I might try going back to Java
>> 8.  But I wasn't really looking for a workaround - it doesn't happen all
>> that frequently and I simply restart the IDE.  No big deal.  But it is a
>> pretty severe bug and I wanted to file a Jira ticket (if one doesn't
>> already exist) and provide relevant log/crash info.  I posted because I was
>> looking for someone to point me to where, on the Mac, to look for such
>> crash info.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 10:30 AM Josh Juneau  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Thomas,
>>>
>>> There is perhaps something specific in your environment, as I have been
>>> using NetBeans 11 daily (all day) without crashes on OS X.  Just so you
>>> have the details of my environment and can perhaps try to configure
>>> similarly to see if it helps:
>>>
>>> Product Version:  Apache NetBeans IDE 11.0 (Build
>>> incubator-netbeans-release-404-on-20190319)
>>> Java:  1.8.0_202-b05; OpenJDK 64-Bit Server (Azul Zulu JDK)
>>> System:  Mac OS X Version 10.13.6
>>>
>>> Also, you may wish to try and start with a new user directory to see if
>>> that helps.  Perhaps there is something in your current user directory that
>>> is not functioning, as expected, and causing the crash.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 9:04 AM Thomas Wolf  wrote:
>>>
 This is about the 3rd or 4th time NB11 (the vc4 unofficial installer
 pointed to from NB download page) has crashed while I'm not using it.  The
 macOS dialog that comes up just lets me send a crash report to Apple.  Is
 it worthwhile to retrieve the crash report from somewhere (where?) and
 copy/paste it into a Jira ticket I can write on NB?  Given that it was a
 hard crash (core dump?), is there some 

Re: Questions related to the use of Netbeans

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Thanks, just please reply to the whole mailing list for this thread. :-)
Keep them coming everyone, let’s give Ko some data to work with.

Gj

On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 12:06, João Verissimo - Câmara Municipal de Ferreira
do Zêzere  wrote:

> 1.What are the best Netbeans plugins to use you think? And do you
> know some funny ones??
>
> PHP symfony support, and html code completion
>
> 2.Are there any upcoming cool features?
>
> Twig code validation.
>
> 3.What could be improved?
>
> Support for symfony flex, twig, doctrine, PHP debugger.
>
> 4.Why should the whole world use this IDE?
>
> It a cool ide that is nice to use without being to complicate to start
> using.
>
> 5. First IDE that you ever used? And why?
>
> Java bluej, free and school recommendation.
>
>
>
>
>
> *De:* Geertjan Wielenga 
> *Enviada:* 17 de abril de 2019 16:57
> *Para:* NetBeans Mailing List 
> *Cc:* Ko Turk 
> *Assunto:* Re: Questions related to the use of Netbeans
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> Can a few more people respond to this thread, please?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gj
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 16:57, Walter Nyland <
> walternyl...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> 1. Jeddict: http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/53057/jeddict
>
>
>
> 2. Inclusion of localization bundles:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/1167
>
>
>
> 3. C/C++ integration, but that's coming, part of a next donation.
>
>
>
> 4. It's simply the best in terms of comprehensiveness and breadth of
> features.
>
>
>
> 5. Eclipse, mandated by my employer, then switched to NetBeans.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Walt
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 16, 2019, 10:47:48 PM GMT+2, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geert...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> 1. Darcula:
> http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/62424/darcula-laf-for-netbeans
>
> 2. JEP 330, i.e., support for single-file source code programs:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/1171
>
>
>
> 3. The sense of ownership right across the developer and user communities
> of NetBeans.
>
>
>
> 4. Because the Apache Software Foundation provides the basis of an
> unparalleled level of participation.
>
>
>
> 5. NetBeans, because Sun Microsystems hired me to write documentation for
> it in 2004, which was the start of my journey into programming.
>
>
>
> Gj
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 7:31 AM Ko Turk  wrote:
>
> Hi Netbeans Users,
>
>
>
> currently I am researching the strengths and weaknesses of different IDEs.
> I think Netbeans is awesome in the integration with Maven. But I am also
> curious what you think about this great IDE!
>
>
>
> I hope you can help me in answering the following questions:
>
>
>
> 1. What are the best Netbeans plugins to use you think? And do you know
> some funny ones??
>
> 2. Are there any upcoming cool features?
>
> 3. What could be improved?
>
> 4. Why should the whole world use this IDE?
>
> 5. First IDE that you ever used? And why?
>
>
>
> Hope you can help me. Thanks!
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Ko Turk
>
>
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Re: Questions related to the use of Netbeans

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Hi all,

Can a few more people respond to this thread, please?

Thanks,

Gj


On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 16:57, Walter Nyland 
wrote:

> 1. Jeddict: http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/53057/jeddict
>
> 2. Inclusion of localization bundles:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/1167
>
> 3. C/C++ integration, but that's coming, part of a next donation.
>
> 4. It's simply the best in terms of comprehensiveness and breadth of
> features.
>
> 5. Eclipse, mandated by my employer, then switched to NetBeans.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Walt
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 16, 2019, 10:47:48 PM GMT+2, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geert...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
> 1. Darcula:
> http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/62424/darcula-laf-for-netbeans
>
> 2. JEP 330, i.e., support for single-file source code programs:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/1171
>
> 3. The sense of ownership right across the developer and user communities
> of NetBeans.
>
> 4. Because the Apache Software Foundation provides the basis of an
> unparalleled level of participation.
>
> 5. NetBeans, because Sun Microsystems hired me to write documentation for
> it in 2004, which was the start of my journey into programming.
>
> Gj
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 7:31 AM Ko Turk  wrote:
>
> Hi Netbeans Users,
>
> currently I am researching the strengths and weaknesses of different IDEs.
> I think Netbeans is awesome in the integration with Maven. But I am also
> curious what you think about this great IDE!
>
> I hope you can help me in answering the following questions:
>
> 1. What are the best Netbeans plugins to use you think? And do you know
> some funny ones??
> 2. Are there any upcoming cool features?
> 3. What could be improved?
> 4. Why should the whole world use this IDE?
> 5. First IDE that you ever used? And why?
>
> Hope you can help me. Thanks!
>
> Regards,
> Ko Turk
>
>

Re: NB 11 crashes on Mac

[Geertjan Wielenga]

You’re always going to find NetBeans messages and log files in the user
directory.

Gj


On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 11:47, Thomas Wolf  wrote:

> Thanks Josh for your environment.  Here's mine (should have included that
> with my initial post):
> Build incubator-netbeans-release-404-on-20190319)
> Java: 11.0.1; Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM 11.0.1+13-LTS
> Runtime: Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment 11.0.1+13-LTS
> System: Mac OS X version 10.14.4
>
> I'm using a much more recent version of Java and macOS than you.  I won't
> change my OS for NB, but if I get desperate, I might try going back to Java
> 8.  But I wasn't really looking for a workaround - it doesn't happen all
> that frequently and I simply restart the IDE.  No big deal.  But it is a
> pretty severe bug and I wanted to file a Jira ticket (if one doesn't
> already exist) and provide relevant log/crash info.  I posted because I was
> looking for someone to point me to where, on the Mac, to look for such
> crash info.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 10:30 AM Josh Juneau  wrote:
>
>> Hi Thomas,
>>
>> There is perhaps something specific in your environment, as I have been
>> using NetBeans 11 daily (all day) without crashes on OS X.  Just so you
>> have the details of my environment and can perhaps try to configure
>> similarly to see if it helps:
>>
>> Product Version:  Apache NetBeans IDE 11.0 (Build
>> incubator-netbeans-release-404-on-20190319)
>> Java:  1.8.0_202-b05; OpenJDK 64-Bit Server (Azul Zulu JDK)
>> System:  Mac OS X Version 10.13.6
>>
>> Also, you may wish to try and start with a new user directory to see if
>> that helps.  Perhaps there is something in your current user directory that
>> is not functioning, as expected, and causing the crash.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 9:04 AM Thomas Wolf  wrote:
>>
>>> This is about the 3rd or 4th time NB11 (the vc4 unofficial installer
>>> pointed to from NB download page) has crashed while I'm not using it.  The
>>> macOS dialog that comes up just lets me send a crash report to Apple.  Is
>>> it worthwhile to retrieve the crash report from somewhere (where?) and
>>> copy/paste it into a Jira ticket I can write on NB?  Given that it was a
>>> hard crash (core dump?), is there some other place I should look for more
>>> Java/NB specific crash info?
>>>
>>> Again, I wasn't even using Netbeans - it was either iconified or sitting
>>> behind some other window.  Also, each time it happened after I disconnected
>>> from external monitors (NB was displaying to one of them), closed my Mac,
>>> opened the Mac at home (with no external monitors), closed, and then
>>> re-opened at work after reconnecting the external monitors.  Crash happened
>>> awhile later (1hr?).  Again, I hadn't used NB since before the disconnect
>>> from the external monitors.  Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> http://landofwolf.blogspot.com/
>>>
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>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>>
>> --
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>> juneau...@gmail.com
>> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
>> https://www.apress.com/us/search?query=Juneau
>> 
>>
>>
>
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>

Re: NB 11 crashes on Mac

[Thomas Wolf]

Thanks Josh for your environment.  Here's mine (should have included that
with my initial post):
Build incubator-netbeans-release-404-on-20190319)
Java: 11.0.1; Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM 11.0.1+13-LTS
Runtime: Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment 11.0.1+13-LTS
System: Mac OS X version 10.14.4

I'm using a much more recent version of Java and macOS than you.  I won't
change my OS for NB, but if I get desperate, I might try going back to Java
8.  But I wasn't really looking for a workaround - it doesn't happen all
that frequently and I simply restart the IDE.  No big deal.  But it is a
pretty severe bug and I wanted to file a Jira ticket (if one doesn't
already exist) and provide relevant log/crash info.  I posted because I was
looking for someone to point me to where, on the Mac, to look for such
crash info.

Thanks,
Tom



On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 10:30 AM Josh Juneau  wrote:

> Hi Thomas,
>
> There is perhaps something specific in your environment, as I have been
> using NetBeans 11 daily (all day) without crashes on OS X.  Just so you
> have the details of my environment and can perhaps try to configure
> similarly to see if it helps:
>
> Product Version:  Apache NetBeans IDE 11.0 (Build
> incubator-netbeans-release-404-on-20190319)
> Java:  1.8.0_202-b05; OpenJDK 64-Bit Server (Azul Zulu JDK)
> System:  Mac OS X Version 10.13.6
>
> Also, you may wish to try and start with a new user directory to see if
> that helps.  Perhaps there is something in your current user directory that
> is not functioning, as expected, and causing the crash.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 9:04 AM Thomas Wolf  wrote:
>
>> This is about the 3rd or 4th time NB11 (the vc4 unofficial installer
>> pointed to from NB download page) has crashed while I'm not using it.  The
>> macOS dialog that comes up just lets me send a crash report to Apple.  Is
>> it worthwhile to retrieve the crash report from somewhere (where?) and
>> copy/paste it into a Jira ticket I can write on NB?  Given that it was a
>> hard crash (core dump?), is there some other place I should look for more
>> Java/NB specific crash info?
>>
>> Again, I wasn't even using Netbeans - it was either iconified or sitting
>> behind some other window.  Also, each time it happened after I disconnected
>> from external monitors (NB was displaying to one of them), closed my Mac,
>> opened the Mac at home (with no external monitors), closed, and then
>> re-opened at work after reconnecting the external monitors.  Crash happened
>> awhile later (1hr?).  Again, I hadn't used NB since before the disconnect
>> from the external monitors.  Hope this helps.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> http://landofwolf.blogspot.com/
>>
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>>
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>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>
> --
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> juneau...@gmail.com
> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> https://www.apress.com/us/search?query=Juneau
> 
>
>

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Re: [PLATFORM] API (Documentation) Updates

[Wade Chandler]

Please following mailing list netiquette, and don’t highjack someones thread 
with an off topic question. If you search this and the devs mailing list, can’t 
rem which one, you’ll see this question answered.

Wade



> On Apr 9, 2019, at 1:45 PM, Robert Erdt  wrote:
> 
> The Netbeans 11 is looking great, is there any support for weblogic?
>  
> From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.INVALID] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2019 10:48 AM
> To: Patrik Karlström 
> Cc: us...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [PLATFORM] API (Documentation) Updates
>  
> https://bits.netbeans.org/dev/javadoc/apichanges.html 
> 
>  
> https://bits.netbeans.org/10.0/javadoc/apichanges.html 
> 
>  
> https://bits.netbeans.org/9.0/javadoc/apichanges.html 
> 
>  
> Gj
>  
>  
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 4:46 PM Patrik Karlström  > wrote:
>> I'm really happy to see the maven artifacts for NB10 & NB11, 
>> but coming from NB82 makes me think of all the new stuff I don't know 
>> anything about.
>>  
>> How can one as developer of a platform based application keep track of 
>> changes made to new releases of the platform?
>>  
>> Patrik

Re: c/c++: static function usages cannot be collected

[Wade Chandler]

I too like C++, and am waiting on the C/C++ support from the Oracle donations 
to appear before digging in. My guess is this is something missing 
(bug/limitation), but as I’m not using NetBeans 8.2 nor working on those 
sources I can’t be sure. Once that donation is done, supporting “Modern C++” is 
one of my goals for NetBeans. I’ll see if I can see anything in any sources I 
have later today that might help.

Wade



> On Apr 15, 2019, at 4:34 PM, Pablo Chin  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have a C/C++ "Project with Existing Sources"  in Netbeans 8.2.   For Code 
> Assitance, I'm using CLang.  I configured Code Assistance to Search file 
> system for C/C++ header files.
> 
> After parsing the project, I'm only able to find functions for which a 
> declaration exists in a .h file.  Any other static functions in the 
> corresponding .c file result in "Usages for  cannot be 
> collected".
> 
> For example, if the .c file has a static function like this:
> 
> static bool foo(void) 
> {
> ...
> }
> 
> Then, "Find Usages" of 'foo' result in "The original element being refactored 
> is not available.  Usages for foo cannot be collected."
> 
> Is there a setting in Nebeans that I'm missing that will allow Code 
> Assistance to "find" static functions like the one mentioned?
> 
> Thank you.

Re: NB 11 crashes on Mac

[Josh Juneau]

Hi Thomas,

There is perhaps something specific in your environment, as I have been
using NetBeans 11 daily (all day) without crashes on OS X.  Just so you
have the details of my environment and can perhaps try to configure
similarly to see if it helps:

Product Version:  Apache NetBeans IDE 11.0 (Build
incubator-netbeans-release-404-on-20190319)
Java:  1.8.0_202-b05; OpenJDK 64-Bit Server (Azul Zulu JDK)
System:  Mac OS X Version 10.13.6

Also, you may wish to try and start with a new user directory to see if
that helps.  Perhaps there is something in your current user directory that
is not functioning, as expected, and causing the crash.

Hope this helps.

On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 9:04 AM Thomas Wolf  wrote:

> This is about the 3rd or 4th time NB11 (the vc4 unofficial installer
> pointed to from NB download page) has crashed while I'm not using it.  The
> macOS dialog that comes up just lets me send a crash report to Apple.  Is
> it worthwhile to retrieve the crash report from somewhere (where?) and
> copy/paste it into a Jira ticket I can write on NB?  Given that it was a
> hard crash (core dump?), is there some other place I should look for more
> Java/NB specific crash info?
>
> Again, I wasn't even using Netbeans - it was either iconified or sitting
> behind some other window.  Also, each time it happened after I disconnected
> from external monitors (NB was displaying to one of them), closed my Mac,
> opened the Mac at home (with no external monitors), closed, and then
> re-opened at work after reconnecting the external monitors.  Crash happened
> awhile later (1hr?).  Again, I hadn't used NB since before the disconnect
> from the external monitors.  Hope this helps.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
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> http://landofwolf.blogspot.com/
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RE: Netbeans 8.0 update fails.

[Ed Sowell]

I was having some issues with 8.2 and was advised to switch to 11.0. Yesterday 
I did, and everything works fine with my rather large & complex Java Windows 
app project. Only problem is there’s no installer for 11.0. You have to 
download the binary zip file and unzip it to C:\Program Files. You can manually 
pin netbeans64.exe or netbeans.exe to Start, and rename the folder to NetBeans 
11.0. When you first run 11.0 it will ask you if you want to transfer the 
settings used in your earlier version (which it detects automatically) to 11.0 
Say Yes.

 

And, yes, it can coexist with you present version. I now have 8.1, 8.2, and 
11.0 on my machine.

 

Ed Sowell 

 

From: Yuval Schwartz  
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 6:42 AM
To: us...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Netbeans 8.0 update fails.

 

Hello, 

 

I'm using Netbeans 8.0 for windows 10.

 

I get a message that there are "50 updates found".

 

When I click "click here to make your IDE up to date" another window opens up 
with all the plugins that will be updated.

 

I click "next", but then I get an error. Specifically, the window says:

Error

There were some problems when storing the selected plugins

Netbeans8.0/enterprise/update/download-in-progress-.../org-netbeans-modules-web-core-syntax.nbm

(The system cannot find the file specified)

 

Are there any tips for how I might fix this issue?

 

Is it recommended to just download the newest version of Netbeans (Netbeans 
11.0) and uninstall the old one (Netbeans 8.0)? Is there any way to upgrade to 
Netbeans 11.0 without uninstalling the old one?

 

Thank you.

 

NB 11 crashes on Mac

[Thomas Wolf]

This is about the 3rd or 4th time NB11 (the vc4 unofficial installer
pointed to from NB download page) has crashed while I'm not using it.  The
macOS dialog that comes up just lets me send a crash report to Apple.  Is
it worthwhile to retrieve the crash report from somewhere (where?) and
copy/paste it into a Jira ticket I can write on NB?  Given that it was a
hard crash (core dump?), is there some other place I should look for more
Java/NB specific crash info?

Again, I wasn't even using Netbeans - it was either iconified or sitting
behind some other window.  Also, each time it happened after I disconnected
from external monitors (NB was displaying to one of them), closed my Mac,
opened the Mac at home (with no external monitors), closed, and then
re-opened at work after reconnecting the external monitors.  Crash happened
awhile later (1hr?).  Again, I hadn't used NB since before the disconnect
from the external monitors.  Hope this helps.

Tom



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Re: Netbeans 8.0 update fails.

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Yes, install 11.0 from scratch. No, this cannot be done automatically in
any way at all.

Gj

On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 09:42, Yuval Schwartz 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm using Netbeans 8.0 for windows 10.
>
> I get a message that there are "50 updates found".
>
> When I click "click here to make your IDE up to date" another window opens
> up with all the plugins that will be updated.
>
> I click "next", but then I get an error. Specifically, the window says:
> Error
> There were some problems when storing the selected plugins
>
> Netbeans8.0/enterprise/update/download-in-progress-.../org-netbeans-modules-web-core-syntax.nbm
> (The system cannot find the file specified)
>
> Are there any tips for how I might fix this issue?
>
> Is it recommended to just download the newest version of Netbeans
> (Netbeans 11.0) and uninstall the old one (Netbeans 8.0)? Is there any way
> to upgrade to Netbeans 11.0 without uninstalling the old one?
>
> Thank you.
>
>

Re: add JavaC in Netbeans platform application

[Wade Chandler]

If you already have a platform project, then you already depend on some NB
modules. Per what you mentioned about Python, I'm assuming you mean to have
the Java editor etc, and as NB already has this ability built in, you can
depend on it.

It's default is to use javac if nb-javac isn't available. Anyways, that is
literally dependencies on the base IDE and Java support like any other NB
modules; even the base ones.

Adding nb-javac is some extra steps according to Neil, but even without
that NB has Java support.

Do you want to do something specific which isn't in the NB Java support?

Wade

On Wed, Apr 17, 2019, 09:23 Krishna Mohan  wrote:

> dear friends
>
> I am still a bit confused here:
> Does it mean that need to include  lib while I compile the
>  application and to include a JAVA COMPILER in it ?
> I am sure that some have already experimented with it ...
>
> Any help will be appreciated, greatly...
> Thanks
>
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 12:15 PM Krishna Mohan 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> I want to use a JavaCompiler or JavaC as like in the standard Netbeans
>> IDE in my  application.
>>
>> Is any plugins are available? I know there is a Plugin for Python and it
>> works well for  application. So, is there any similar
>> plugins are available for Java?
>>
>> thanks in advance
>>
>> Km
>>
>

Netbeans 8.0 update fails.

[Yuval Schwartz]

Hello,

I'm using Netbeans 8.0 for windows 10.

I get a message that there are "50 updates found".

When I click "click here to make your IDE up to date" another window opens
up with all the plugins that will be updated.

I click "next", but then I get an error. Specifically, the window says:
Error
There were some problems when storing the selected plugins
Netbeans8.0/enterprise/update/download-in-progress-.../org-netbeans-modules-web-core-syntax.nbm
(The system cannot find the file specified)

Are there any tips for how I might fix this issue?

Is it recommended to just download the newest version of Netbeans (Netbeans
11.0) and uninstall the old one (Netbeans 8.0)? Is there any way to upgrade
to Netbeans 11.0 without uninstalling the old one?

Thank you.

Re: add JavaC in Netbeans platform application

[Krishna Mohan]

dear friends

I am still a bit confused here:
Does it mean that need to include  lib while I compile the
 application and to include a JAVA COMPILER in it ?
I am sure that some have already experimented with it ...

Any help will be appreciated, greatly...
Thanks

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 12:15 PM Krishna Mohan 
wrote:

> Hi All
>
> I want to use a JavaCompiler or JavaC as like in the standard Netbeans IDE
> in my  application.
>
> Is any plugins are available? I know there is a Plugin for Python and it
> works well for  application. So, is there any similar
> plugins are available for Java?
>
> thanks in advance
>
> Km
>

Re: add JavaC in Netbeans platform application

[Neil C Smith]

On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 03:13, Wade Chandler  wrote:
> You can package the separate nb-javac project as well.

Interestingly I'm just looking at doing this myself today, as I'm
finally updating PraxisLIVE from NB8.2 to NB11.

Any thoughts on the best way to integrate with nb-javac?  Jaroslav
mentioned using the autoupdate ant task in the harness a while back to
pull it in.  I'm just looking at how to do that, but wondered if
that's definitely the right way, and if so if anyone has an ant build
example already that'll save me a bit of reading up?! ;-)

Best wishes,

Neil

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