Words simply can't express how happy I am to see this list finally
discussing some hardcore honky-tonk. Now, if only I could steer the
discussion on the 661 list -- that's Bakersfield, y'all -- around to the new
Kirk Degiorgio Soul of Science mix!
Shake definitely played it at Movement -- about halfway through his set,
just before he went into Daft Punk's Harder Faster Stronger and This Is
Radio Clash. Probably my fave new track of the weekend...so it's Krikor?
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> From: Kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> S
Yep, 1995 is right.
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=12:27:26|PM&sql=Akt6qoauauijn
> Titonton Duvante - Selections For Intercourse - ON CD
Yep, this one does exist -- I got mine at the Record Time tent right after
Titonton's performance at DEMF 2001...haven't seen it since though, so maybe
it never hit the *stores* ??
John
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> anyone on this list work with All Music Guide?
>
> explain please
Man, I was picturing a photo of Johnny Mathis on Rob Hood's page before
*ever* expecting to see a tidbit like that!!
There are quite a few joke pages on AMG, if you know where to look -- it
never hurts to plug into the search
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> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 11:23 AM
> To: John Bush; Dan Sicko; Tristan Watkins
> Cc: 313
> Subject: Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching
>
>
> yeah, speaking of coming-down brits, I'm pretty sure I've heard alex
> patterson drop E2-E4.
>
> also,
> I'm not sure how many people were actually hip to this
> record in Detroit outside of Carl and maybe Derrick ...
I think it was more of an influence on the Balearic style...I remember
hearing that E2-E4 was one of the tracks Alfredo would play when the British
were starting to come down in the m
> I almost gagged the other day when
> I heard a progressive mix of this on TV.
Hmmm, progressive house or trance? Maybe this is something different, but
don't forget Sueno Latino, who had a European hit in the late '80s with what
was basically a cover of E2-E4; Gottsching even played guitar on t
I don't know which tracks you're talking about, but his Clear LP from 1997
(The Driving Memoirs) is an absolute masterpiece in my book, though very
much in the minimalist, jazzy vein described (dismissed? ;> ) below. There
are so many great ideas on that album, at least three or four per track,
th
> or it would be a cybotron .. liek "clear" ...
> or "a numer of names - sharivari"
>
> both ยด82
Alleys of Your Mind came out in '81...
> -Original Message-
> From: Maarten Baute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 3:41 PM
> To: henrique casanova; 313@hyperreal.
> Anybody have a link to a supplier of
> sleeves and jackets for 12" records?
Otherwise check http:\\www.bagsunlimited.com ... they carry sleeves,
jackets, mailers, cases, etc.
Mayhap he harks back to those glorious days of yore (I mean, R&S) ??
> -Original Message-
> From: Rob Theakston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:53 PM
> To: DJ HEAT; DETROIT
> Subject: RE: [313] commercial/progressive no Trance
>
>
> what the hell are you
Apologies in advance for two short commments.
> No there probably won't be any collaborations but this
> makes me think why is sex so bad in the eyes of "Christians"?
I'm not sure which Christians you're referring to here, but the reason why
many unreligious people think this about Christians is
> Can anyone point me out to a decent biography of these guys.
I'm biased but All Music Guide has a good section on yrs majesty, YMO.
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Baq6atr69kl7x
> And can anyone describe there role
> in the develpment of electronical music?
Did what Kraftwerk di
> | Where is cameo a.k.a. Larry Blackmon from?
> | New York? Detroit? Philly?
I would've guessed Philly myself, but he grew up in Harlem, and that's where
Cameo started as well...
Blackmon and Nathan Leftenant appear on a track from the new (DJ) Cam album
Soulshine, but it's not good...lame Roy A
> yeah - saw them live a few times and totally mesmeric.
Wow, when/where? Were they still performing behind curtains?
These guys were so good and got so little recognition -- Record of Breaks is
a masterpiece, definitely several years ahead of its time. I'd love to hear
the reaction if it came ou
Can't believe no one's mentioned Star Hustler yet!
Okay, actually I'm rather glad of it.
John
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ermany...or Cameroon... ;>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 9:39 AM
> To: Ian Cheshire; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: [313] non techno
>
>
> > hurray!! c'mon England!
>
> hurray!! c'mon England!
I'll be rooting as hard as anyone once I finally get a chance to watch it,
so if y'all could keep mum about how it turns out, I'd appreciate it...
> -Original Message-
> From: Ian Cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 9:31 AM
>
> massive attackprotection
Uggh -- so sappy! ;> Give me Unfinished Sympathy any day...
John
Speaking of making you cry...
-->
NP: Larry Levan - Live at the Paradise Garage
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> This is the first time I've seen dixon, and he reminded me in
> appearance and behavior of Prince during his Dirty Mind stage
Makes me wonder what he was getting up to behind the blue tarp during his
live set at Planet E last year!
I have to admit, I was pretty close to the front during thi
Whenever I need a second opinion, I check out Weather Underground
(wunderground.co). Based right here in Ann Arbor too; they're putting a
positive spin on it all...well, at least for Monday...
FRIDAY (Angry cloud faces blowing...)
Showers and thunderstorms likely in the morning. Otherwise...mos
I was there the first year and didn't have any problems -- it's a 15-minute
walk up Jefferson and has a nice diner. I seem to remember some lowrider
activity on the street in back, but loud systems aren't much of a concern at
DEMF... ;>
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> ah that'llbe Craig Armstrong..
According to allmusic, it's Will Malone, but we've been wrong before... ;>
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> i always thought the strings had been
> lifted frm somewhere but im not sure
> that it was definately this as it sounded
> reasonably recent - any one know the score?
Looks like they credit a conductor for the Blue Lines album (if you're
talking about Unfinished Sympathy). That doesn't quite con
I think he gave in far too quickly and easily to "make a pop album" --
sounds like he took notes while listening to a few Depeche/Moroder records
and presto, he's got a pop record...
As for the vocals, I think he could've done much better too. At his best
Ricky Aloof sounds like a second-rate Jaso
Tough! I've been looking for a few years myself, and still haven't seen
it...
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:52 AM
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: [313] BLAZE - 25 Years Later
>
>
> Hiya all,
>
> Back in 1992
> While money may be the easiest problem to
> shake your fist at, the marketing forces
> that determine the economics are guided by
> history - a history of bigotry and conservativism
> that refuses to acredit African-Amercians with
> anything outside of popular stereotypes.
Don't forget hillbilli
Oooh, at least one 734 313'er will be in England round then -- I'm leaving
Detroit on March 28 and getting back April 10 (though, granted, I did just
see Derrick last month). If there are any other intriguing shows happening
anywhere in England around these dates, I'd love to hear about them
> :BDP - lol for black dog -
> :
> :but BDP was big b4 black dog :D
Did anyone else confuse BOC for Blue Oyster Cult like I did? It took me a
week to realize people were talking about Boards of Canada!
John
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> who hasn't released anything
> remotley touching the original
> Black Dog Productions stuff
Sure, his "solo" LP doesn't sound like the stuff BDP was doing seven years
earlier, but it's still excellent...especially recommended for those into
Byrne/Eno Fourth World-type collage.
John
--
> i might be wrong, but i remember it coming
> out in the days when jeff mills, laurent
> garnier and dave clarke were still selling
> out friday nights at Club UK.
Looks like early '97...
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=A331150
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> It is entirely up to the editor, who is
> influenced by the publisher and their
> concerns about the market they are targeting.
I'd never presume about your experiences, so *please* don't presume about
ours. AMG has never received any type of suggestion, concerning direction
or inclusions, from
> If your are looking for info Richie Hawtin,
> Derrick May or f*cking Moby, it's all in there,
> obviously, but also names you (me) wouldn't expect
> like Michael James, Frank de Groodt & Astralasia.
Yes, there's a reason we didn't call it the All Music Guide to Techno... ;>
There *are* hundreds
> turning your nose up at d'n'b is no better than
> the d'n'b people (a load of ex-ravers who discovered
> a few techno records round about 1993)
That's stretching the truth -- nobody spun a hardcore/drum'n'bass set with
just Bug in the Bassbin and a few KMS records... There were a lot of great
r
Sorry, no British number one smashes for Associates -- they barely even hit
the Top Ten (once with Party Fears Two from early '82). Two others in the
Top 40: Club Country (mid-'82) and Love Hangover/18 Carat Love Affair (late
'82).
John
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There's info at allmusic:
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Bqn09kett7q7m
Slightly poppier than I'd like to hear, but I still think they were very
brilliant -- just listen to, well, Music for Listening To.
John
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And they get a *lot* of shout-outs! Definitely the most fun on Detroit
radio I've heard in years -- even better than Magic 105.1... ;> Let's hear
it for community radio!
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To: 313@hyp
Steve Dahl. A friend just told me that the "on-air buddy" on his show was
black *and* homosexual *and* a friend of Steve's -- so no more using him as
the stick to beat up on the anti-disco movement (at least for the usual
black/homosexual reasons). Maybe he really *did* dislike the music!
John
W
Anyone heard his new full-length?
Comparisons to Maddkatt Courtship's I Know Elektrikboy?
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Hi Everyone,
You're all welcome to stop by the Borders in downtown AA tonight for a
presentation/book-signing for the All Music Guide to Electronica. It's at
7pm, and the basic set-up is me playing a few of my favorite tracks, then
talking about the progression of electronic music from the '60s t
> the third big war will begin
> when the big city is burning."
A really bad one too -- most of those Nostradamus hoaxes at least get the
Medieval syntax/word-choice correct...
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Another point: there's a very large Arab population around the
Detroit/Dearborn area, so I just want to say, my heart goes out to you in
the community as well.
If *anyone* in *any* way persecutes you, please know that there's a large
community of Americans who'd decry any attempt to link a *suppos
> I caught the kraftwork reference as well.
Not to say she wasn't down with Kraftwerk/Bambaataa back in the day, but
this may have come courtesy of Jacques lu Cont from Les Rythmes Digitales --
who's in her backing band I believe...
.john.
--
> for me its a little bit less then i
> excpected. But its just enough to hear
> sumner again. "crystal" is perfect.
And dig that video! I could've sworn it was Travis or Starsailor or Blur or
one of those half-pint Britpop twats... ;>
John
PS: Right on with Sumner and Hook -- they sound better
http://www.dj-i-robot.com/
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> Errr? Gez has been quite prolific over the past several years.
>
> .Or am I just missing the context of the comment?
Not that he hasn't done a lot of great tracks, just that he's doing "that"
sound for "that" label. Sounding a little old to my ears, that's all --
chalk it up to Monday morn
> : "(Mark and Gez have since parted company - Mark
> : remaining as LFO and Gez recording solely as G Man.
Don't forget Gez's several releases as himself: Presents Tony Montana on !K7
and the just-released Bayou Paradis. Unfortunately, the black hole known as
Force Inc has claimed yet another pr
> Which is hopefully not just a cash in printed version
> of the website entries like all the other AMG books?
Cash in? I suppose you're right -- companies like to make money, and the
people who work for companies appreciate being paid for their effort... In
that sense, the book is a total cash-
> So is Detroit City Airport closed down?
Well, not closed down -- just without service from a professional airline.
That still leaves thousands of private pilots free to land, taxi, take off,
whatever they want, whenever they please...
.john.
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> What the h#ll are "Focus-themed activities" ???
Just like Duff Man from The Simpsons -- they're activities meant to promote
awareness of the Ford Focus!
.john.
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I think it's been mentioned here a few times in the past, but after four
years of working and waiting, we're finally ready to publish the All Music
Guide to Electronic(a). Anyone who's spent time on the allmusic.com site
knows we take care of a *lot* of records (plus a lot of Detroit records) and
t
> Why, on earth, would a major company,
> fire the head guy, a notorious artist
> no less, 2 weeks prior to the event?
Maybe she wouldn't have an excuse after volume two became a roaring
success?...
There's an article on the cover of today's Detroit News too...
http://www.detroitnews.com/2001/en
> but then he puts them on a "side stage"
> read: yeah I couldn't be doing what I'm
> doing today with out these pioneers, so we'll
> put em on the side stage while I'm on the main.
I sure don't want to defend Moby (though he's good at what he does), but
even though he's the frontman of this whole
> They have a great marketing plan with
> sponsoring the DEMF and Moby tour.
Definitely better than those awful Focus commercials shot in front of the
State Theater (?), with a scary-makeup'ed, middle-aged pitchwoman
"interpreting" all the "cool" things that kids are saying about the car...
One of
> RE: two-step garage, not all of it is commercial
> or obvious and it's a shame that the hype is
> impacting on perceptions of the music as a whole.
I don't think anyone would knock Masters at Work for sounding commercial, so
it's hard to see why anyone could knock 2-step for the same reasons (ok
> Does anyone have any more info on
> this book? Looks like great reading.
It is a great read, though Detroiters will have to laugh at the transcripts
of Michigan place names -- apparently Juan studied at Wotshenaw Community
College in Ipsonati or somesuch blather. It's pretty formulaic too (each
Wednesday February 7th, 2001
Solar 3rd Year Anniversary
Featuring
Comin From Tha D: BluePrint Tour
with
DJ Assault
Detroit Grand Pubahs (Live)
Sean Deason
Ectomorph (Live)
DJ Godfather
Keith Tucker
@Blind Pig - 208 S. First Street, Ann Arbor MI
Doors: 9:30 pm
Ages: 18 + with ID
Price: $10 a
> A lot of the Body and Soul folk are
> using cds these days: Danny Krivit, if
> I remember correctly, does. FWIW, I can
> only picture myself using something that
> has some kind of creative incentive.
The difference comes with your approach to DJing... For hip-hop or techno
DJs, turntables make
Any 313-types in or around Barcelona? I'll be there the first week of
March, and I'd love to get the low-down on what's happening in Spain's
grooviest city. So if you live there/lived there/been there and can help
out, it'd be much appreciated... Any
.john.
> http://www.recordcollectorinc.com
I can definitely vouch for this store -- I've got friends in IC, and the
first time I went out there in '94, I was surprised by how many great
records they had (guess I didn't expect it from Iowa). I don't remember too
much in specific (only been back twice), b
> if you consider a spot on t.r.l. @mtv
> helping thats just a combitnation
> of pop music tatics (self promotion)
> and a painfully evident lack of knowledge
> concerning what underground is ,
I've got so many great memories of being exposed to outrageous musical
novelties -- Pac Jam, anybod
> (incidentally, steve hurley claims he wrote 'love
> can't turn around' and that farley stole it from him).
And Hurley stole the bassline from "Let No Man Put Asunder" by First Choice
for his own "Jack Your Body." It's all kind of moot, though -- they're both
great producers (Hurley especially).
> but what i don't understand is that the
> material they play live is so superior
> to the stuff they release on vinyl.
I was thinking the exact same thing last night -- if they recorded their
sets and put the best one out as their next album, it would completely
*smoke* records along the same li
> wo!! that was one of the best nights at motor i've ever had.
>
> swayzak was great. even though there was possibly
> too much bass with too much volume at times (possibly
> they wanted it to sound like the speakers were blown)
Agreed, that was a great night. Swayzak blew my head off to star
Is this still going on at Motor tonight? I'm assuming so, but I sure
haven't seen much mention of it here... Not that we haven't had a full
plate this summer, but the next few days are incredibly packed:
Tonight:
Juan/Swayzak @ Motor
Thursday:
BT/Terrence Parker @ State Theatre -- one for the h
> Is anybody here familiar
> with Russel's "serious" work?
It's not quite serious work, but there's a compilation on Polygram called
"Another Thought" that's still in print. It's not really classical *or*
electronic, closer to pop than anything else, but still so screwed up that
most anyone can g
> Groove is coming to the Michigan Theater in Ann Arbor
> July 28-31, and will be showing at 9:30 p.m. each night.
Has anyone seen this yet? Any thoughts? The only reports I hear are from
big-media outlets, so when they trumpet it as the first "true" rave movie,
it makes me more than just a bit
> any comments on how this guy pioneered the
> art of dj'ing, moved on to be the first
> dj/producer and then released the seminal,
> stripped-down classic "set it off'?
Check http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=B182862 for a Walter Gibbons
bio...
.John.
This guy is **SO** not-for-real...
I'll save Mr. Sledgianowski the trouble of replying to my open-ended and
offensive message by putting on my Carnac the Magnificent hat and divining
his reply, no doubt forthcoming in about six minutes and transmitted to the
entire list:
"What do you mean not fo
> Is garage a real genre?
Sure is, and it's just as old as house or techno -- a bit underrated though,
since it often gets lumped in with house because they're both similar to
disco. Check http://allmusic.com/ and search for "Garage/House" under
styles to get a little essay on the subject, and al
> Whoa. Poetry reading? Who had that? Over a DJ set??
About three-quarters of the way through May's set, Umar Bin Hassan from the
Last Poets came on and did a spoken-word reading (no accompaniment from the
decks). It was well-done, but it confused quite a few people --
unfortunately, he sounded *
> add rob hood in the mix too!!!
>
> definitely ... The fact that he's
> at Motor this weekend nearly slipped
> past me with all the DEMF hub-bub! :)
Wait, Rob Hood's at Motor? I'm there if so, but I just checked Motor's site
and it doesn't list him -- unless it's on Sunday?...
.John.
Before sifting through the 600 (!) messages currently in my Inbox since last
Thursday, I thought I'd type in all my impressions to add to the atmosphere
for everyone, whether you were there and can relate or weren't and want to
know. First off, there are absolutely no doubts in my mind, this was a
> Section 25's "Looking From The Hilltops" still a fav of mine.
I don't think they're out on LP, but all the Section 25 albums have been
reissued on CD with bonus tracks. The reissue of From The Hip has two
remixes of "Looking from a Hilltop" plus six mixes of other songs.
.John.
Hey, does anyone know of an online map with the specific layout for Hart
Plaza? A friend and I are trying to agree on a good meeting spot... There
is a fountain in the middle though, right? Maybe we'll just meet there...
Can't believe I'm going to miss the entire first day's lineup plus the
fab
> sorry, not detroit specific, but relevant or
> representational of the battle being waged
> in many north american cities right now.
You know, 60 Minutes II was going to have a big feature on Ecstasy this past
Tuesday, but I'm pretty sure it didn't air. They previewed the Ecstasy
piece on Sunda
> http://www.skinny.com/music/artist/manparrish/man.html or
> http://www.users.interport.net/~hotstuff/
Try http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=B19127 too...
.John.
> Because of last week's recommendations
> on Francois K's Essential Mix 2CD i
> ordered this online.
I'm very tempted by this too, and I'm wondering about the best (ie cheapest)
place to get it, online or in the Ann Arbor/Detroit area... Any suggestions
welcomed.
.John.
> BUT this brings up the fine topic of
> why Mr. Hawtin is mentioned as the pioneer.
>
> you know, wouldn't Carl Craig or Mad
> Mike be a more appropriate choice?
Spot-on. Carl Craig would be the natural choice from all angles: as a
musical pioneer, as someone with underground cred, as someon
Prompted by the coming release of the movie "Groove," today's New York Times
has a comparatively well-done article on electronic music, with separate
pages explaining the differences between techno, house, drum'n'bass, trance,
and big beat. Admittedly, nobody here's going to learn *too* much -- th
> > I'm Dave Clark. Spell his damn name with
> > an 'e' like it's meant to be spelled.
>
> Once n for all, i'm not english, and I don't own bush.
Okay, now who's messing around with names?... ;)
.John.
(who never wants to be known as "The Bushman" or "Bushy-tale" ever again...)
(and no George
> for the YMO fans out there:
> which releases from this band
> (vinyl LPs and 12"s, not interested in cds)
> are considered essential; looking to beef
> up my YMO collection here,
> but money's tight so would
> like some opinions before i buy
> more. thanks. andrew duke :)
As far as the albums go
> > could be. i've got a bad headache
> > as i type this (and typed that :))
>
> 'can you party' was the tod terry track that sampled
> 'can you feel' by larry heard. there is a vocal and a
> instrumental version (not on the same disk) both
> have been re-released by trax recently.
Funny, I've got
> i was reading through the Smallfish web site and they
> had a quick interwiew with dan bell, he gave a top 10
> and the first track was Lil Louis " Journey with the
> Lonely'...can anyone tell me more info on this...
> i cant find any info on it...
Nice and (fairly) intimate second album from Mr
> Does anyone know the name of that wicked
> house track that he played, which had a
> really uplifting vocal which went "I feel alright,
> the world is good!" (or something similar)?
Could be a few different ones, but it sounds like "It's Alright, I Feel It"
from NuYorican Soul (aka Masters at Wo
> What the hell is Lavelle smoking anyway?
Is he even at Mo' Wax anymore? I'm pretty sure he was on his way out, but
maybe some of the releases he supervised are still trickling out. I think
he went to XL Recordings or to a new label, leaving Mo' Wax basically a
corporate shill...
.John.
It was pretty fabulous. I know Kenny & Carl aren't thought of primarily as
DJs, but they had the place rocking! Carl had a pretty intense look on his
face most of the night, but Kenny was really enjoying himself -- pumping his
fist in the air every now and then, really getting the crowd into it.
> Can someone tell me when the
> Planet E fastival thing is happening?
Memorial Day weekend, the official (American) kickoff to summer! That means
the weekend of Friday, May 26 through Monday, May 29 (the latter is Memorial
Day)...
.John.
> throw this at 'im:
> http://allmusic.com/cg...
And then this... ;)
http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=4:46:14|PM&p=amg&sql=B134431
.John.
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