DIS: Re: BUS: 2CFJs

2017-06-27 Thread V.J Rada
Before it's assigned. All your CFJs are assigned. On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 10:44 PM, CuddleBeam wrote: > >I bar Cuddlebeam from both CFJs (this may be invalid depending on the > > >result of a pending CFJ on a similar bar) > > > I don't mind the barring but this got me thinking: how late after a

Re: DIS: Most Welcome

2017-06-27 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Jun 28, 2017, at 2:47 AM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > > On Wed, 28 Jun 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: > >> I’m rather more pleased than you might have expected to see that Perth’s >> location is -correctly- noted in both maps. > > The first ASCII map I remember I think was someone's USENET signa

Re: DIS: Most Welcome

2017-06-27 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Wed, 28 Jun 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: I’m rather more pleased than you might have expected to see that Perth’s location is -correctly- noted in both maps. The first ASCII map I remember I think was someone's USENET signature. It was also of Australia, and Perth was the _only_ thing marked

DIS: Re: BUS: 2CFJs

2017-06-27 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Jun 27, 2017, at 5:05 PM, V.J Rada wrote: > > I CFJ on the statement > "The Japanese message filed by 天火狐 on 27 June deputized him as the Reportor” I volunteer to judge this. > I CFJ on the statement > "A player other than the ADOP may initiate elections by announcement if an > office ha

Re: DIS: Most Welcome

2017-06-27 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Jun 27, 2017, at 4:12 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Tue, 27 Jun 2017, Quazie wrote: >> I mean, there's no scam here - The parade merely gives future permission to >> add to it - >> it's a standard convention to not burn down people's scam monuments if they >> aren't >> disruptive -

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Elections

2017-06-27 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Jun 27, 2017, at 3:00 AM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > > On Tue, 27 Jun 2017, Quazie wrote: > >> You aren't the ADOP, so you would need instead 4 support, but I'll get to >> those elections shortly - don't worry > > Hum, it's not clear from the text of Rule 2154 that e cannot do that: > >

DIS: Re: BUS: 蘭亭社簿記

2017-06-27 Thread Gaelan Steele
I’m pretty sure there was something about a “gentleman” in the Japanese organization; maybe that could be related? Gaelan > On Jun 27, 2017, at 2:48 PM, omd wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 8:53 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> >> I knew CFJ 3492 was a slippery slope. Silly judge. >> >> This

DIS: Re: BUS: 蘭亭社簿記

2017-06-27 Thread Josh T
I'd like to point out that the charter of 蘭亭社 was updated last month, which includes additional definitions. 天火狐 On 27 June 2017 at 17:48, omd wrote: > On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 8:53 PM, Kerim Aydin > wrote: > > > > > > I knew CFJ 3492 was a slippery slope. Silly judge. > > > > This, though, pr

DIS: Re: BUS: 蘭亭社簿記

2017-06-27 Thread omd
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 8:53 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > I knew CFJ 3492 was a slippery slope. Silly judge. > > This, though, pretty clearly fails the "sufficiently clear" test of > CFJs 3471-3472 (and ultimately 1460). For reference: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?1460 FWIW

DIS: Re: OFF: [Referee] Weekly Report

2017-06-27 Thread V.J Rada
COE, I also pointed a finger at G last week (for making a fake report, ruled Shenanigans) On Wednesday, June 28, 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: > As Referee, I believe there are no outstanding rules violations in the > preceding Agoran week, for which a Card has not already been issued. I > publish

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Mess in CFJ 3509 (attn: Cuddlebeam)

2017-06-27 Thread V.J Rada
The other assignable ones are sproklems CFJ on whether or not I barred ais in a previous CFJ. And Gael an has 2 linked ones outstanding On Wednesday, June 28, 2017, V.J Rada wrote: > Yes, PSS made the motion. However, a recent CFJ explicitly ruled that this > case could be reassigned. O was the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Mess in CFJ 3509 (attn: Cuddlebeam)

2017-06-27 Thread V.J Rada
Yes, PSS made the motion. However, a recent CFJ explicitly ruled that this case could be reassigned. O was the judge. Youre good. On Wednesday, June 28, 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Tue, 27 Jun 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > > On Sat, 2017-06-10 at 13:48 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > First, Cu

DIS: Re: BUS: 蘭亭社簿記

2017-06-27 Thread V.J Rada
I think e's deputizing for reportor On Wednesday, June 28, 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Oh, here's a slightly different translation from the google one, from: > http://www.systranet.com/translate/ > > Because luck of holding office 德 public is negligent, I publishing the > article below, > luc

DIS: Re: OFF: OFF [Arbitor]: CFJ 3529 assigned to Quazie

2017-06-27 Thread Quazie
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 9:51 AM Alex Smith wrote: > On Tue, 2017-06-27 at 11:18 +0200, CuddleBeam wrote: > > I forgot to clarify a thing, sorry. I retract my lastest CFJ of > "Cuddlebeam > > has earned a Platinum Ribbon" (the one posted in that message before this > > one). > > > > Via the Town F

Re: DIS: Most Welcome

2017-06-27 Thread Quazie
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 1:15 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Tue, 27 Jun 2017, Quazie wrote: > > I mean, there's no scam here - The parade merely gives future permission > to add to it - > > it's a standard convention to not burn down people's scam monuments if > they aren't > > disruptive - but t

Re: DIS: Most Welcome

2017-06-27 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 27 Jun 2017, Quazie wrote: > I mean, there's no scam here - The parade merely gives future permission to > add to it - > it's a standard convention to not burn down people's scam monuments if they > aren't > disruptive - but the parade notes that you may add to it and that's legit. A

Re: DIS: Most Welcome

2017-06-27 Thread Quazie
I mean, there's no scam here - The parade merely gives future permission to add to it - it's a standard convention to not burn down people's scam monuments if they aren't disruptive - but the parade notes that you may add to it and that's legit. Most welcome isn't defined, and thus disrespecting t

DIS: Most Welcome

2017-06-27 Thread CuddleBeam
Could be a bit silly but here I go: We got "AND FURTHERMORE, additions to this Parade are most welcome when Events suiting the honour should occur." We don't have an explicit definition for "Events" (or at least, I haven't found one), so I believe that just making it up as an unregulated action w

DIS: Re: BUS: 蘭亭社簿記

2017-06-27 Thread Kerim Aydin
Oh, here's a slightly different translation from the google one, from: http://www.systranet.com/translate/ Because luck of holding office 德 public is negligent, I publishing the article below, luck 德 am acquired the public gentleman. Communique time: a treasure and land of four orchid cottag

DIS: Re: BUS: 蘭亭社簿記

2017-06-27 Thread Kerim Aydin
I knew CFJ 3492 was a slippery slope. Silly judge. This, though, pretty clearly fails the "sufficiently clear" test of CFJs 3471-3472 (and ultimately 1460). To be safe, I'd issue a Claim of Error that the document is generally inaccurate, and also maybe object to it... :P On Tue, 27 Jun 2017

DIS: Re: BUS: 蘭亭社簿記

2017-06-27 Thread Quazie
Can anyone get a good translation? I've got Because Fukudokko in office is negligent, I will publish the following article and win the gentleman of Fukuokko. Bulletin time: Four of Mizukazuki Sakoko A treasure and the locality of Orchidori company: None that's all The sky fox On Tue, Jun 27,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Mess in CFJ 3509 (attn: Cuddlebeam)

2017-06-27 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 27 Jun 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > On Sat, 2017-06-10 at 13:48 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > First, CuddleBeam clearly delivered a judgement in 3509, then filed a > > Motion to Reconsider it.  That first part worked fine. > > Can someone point me to the Motion to Reconsider? Looking back t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: humble agoran farmer is the officer of everything

2017-06-27 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2017-06-27 at 16:43 +, Quazie wrote: > I would like this CFJ OK, so I /am/ getting Quazie's messages, it's just slow. Messages appearing out of order is a typical occupational hazard with email… -- ais523

DIS: Re: BUS: Mess in CFJ 3509 (attn: Cuddlebeam)

2017-06-27 Thread Alex Smith
On Sat, 2017-06-10 at 13:48 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > First, CuddleBeam clearly delivered a judgement in 3509, then filed a > Motion to Reconsider it.  That first part worked fine. Can someone point me to the Motion to Reconsider? Looking back through the lists, I've found two attempts to resolv

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: humble agoran farmer is the officer of everything

2017-06-27 Thread Quazie
I would like this CFJ On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 02:18 CuddleBeam wrote: > I forgot to clarify a thing, sorry. I retract my lastest CFJ of "Cuddlebeam > has earned a Platinum Ribbon" (the one posted in that message before this > one). > > Via the Town Fountain Rule ("Any rule may allow special depu

Re: DIS: Proto: Track it on the wiki

2017-06-27 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2017-06-25 at 17:31 -0400, omd wrote: > Do you object to systems that require (or at least strongly encourage) > actions to be entered externally, but send automated messages to the > lists reflecting them?  Requiring players to manually send messages in > a parseable format is definitely a

Re: DIS: Proto: Track it on the wiki

2017-06-27 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2017-06-25 at 12:29 -0700, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > I concur with ais523's thoughts, but would appreciate if e could > describe the reasoning for his dislike of GitHub. Part of it (some particularly objectionable terms in a much older version of the Terms of Service) has si

DIS: Re: BUS: Elections

2017-06-27 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I endorse the current officer holder for all offices I do not hold. For offices I do hold, I vote for myself. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Jun 26, 2017, at 11:09 PM, V.J Rada wrote: > > Because I am rather bored, I initiate elections for Prime

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: humble agoran farmer is the officer of everything

2017-06-27 Thread Nic Evans
Also, special deputisation doesn't make you the officer. Only normal deputisation does. And only for elected offices. On 06/27/17 06:52, Nic Evans wrote: > On 06/27/17 04:18, CuddleBeam wrote: >> I forgot to clarify a thing, sorry. I retract my lastest CFJ >> of "Cuddlebeam has earned a Platinum

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: humble agoran farmer is the officer of everything

2017-06-27 Thread Nic Evans
On 06/27/17 04:18, CuddleBeam wrote: > I forgot to clarify a thing, sorry. I retract my lastest CFJ > of "Cuddlebeam has earned a Platinum Ribbon" (the one posted in that > message before this one). > > Via the Town Fountain Rule ("Any rule may allow special deputisation" > as ""Any rule allows spe

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: humble agoran farmer is the officer of everything

2017-06-27 Thread V.J Rada
When this is assigned, could the Arbitor please assign the "cardable offence" CFJ. I think there are other assignable ones but this is never getting judged and has been deemed assignable. On Tuesday, June 27, 2017, CuddleBeam wrote: > I forgot to clarify a thing, sorry. I retract my lastest CFJ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Elections

2017-06-27 Thread V.J Rada
Yeah lmao that's how I read it. The natural reading of the plain text seems to allow the ADOP to initiate one at any time and me to do so under the conditions. On Tuesday, June 27, 2017, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > On Tue, 27 Jun 2017, Quazie wrote: > > You aren't the ADOP, so you would need instead

DIS: Re: BUS: Elections

2017-06-27 Thread CuddleBeam
>Because I am rather bored, I initiate elections for Prime Minister, Herald >and Report or by announcement. Hi rather bored, it's me dad.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolving proposals 7859-7864

2017-06-27 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 26 Jun 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jun 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: > > This rule last > > appeared in the FLR here [1] and was repealed by proposal 7629, > > distributed here [2]. I'd give you the date it was assessed, but I > > can't find the assessment, even after much searchin

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Elections

2017-06-27 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Tue, 27 Jun 2017, Quazie wrote: You aren't the ADOP, so you would need instead 4 support, but I'll get to those elections shortly - don't worry Hum, it's not clear from the text of Rule 2154 that e cannot do that: 1. by announcement, if e is the ADoP, if the office has been