maxrob200;372865 Wrote:
> Now to see if some company comes out with an "audiophile" grade switch
> that sells for a zillion dollars and delivers heavenly sound because of
> the unobtanium used in it.
> On a more serious note, it is perhaps worthwhile to take a closer look
> at different types an
Now to see if some company comes out with an "audiophile" grade switch
that sells for a zillion dollars and delivers heavenly sound because of
the unobtanium used in it.
On a more serious note, it is perhaps worthwhile to take a closer look
at different types and quality of switches on the market
maxrob200;372229 Wrote:
> Whatever was causing the sound quality drop seems to have been solved by
> the replacement of the switch. I have swapped the switches around to
> ensure that the differences I've heard are audible and I have to
> conclude that the switch is affecting the sound - no idea
seanadams;366757 Wrote:
> Would a static IP make it sound better?
Maybe a different DNS server.
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seanadams;366757 Wrote:
> Would a static IP make it sound better?
Of course it will, also make sure you're using an audiophile DHCP
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Whatever was causing the sound quality drop seems to have been solved by
the replacement of the switch. I have swapped the switches around to
ensure that the differences I've heard are audible and I have to
conclude that the switch is affecting the sound - no idea why
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maxrob200;371844 Wrote:
> It is possible that the original switch was introducing noise or
> artefacts into the data stream. Might even be the wall-wart switch mode
> power supply because the one supplied with the Linksys is certainly more
> substantial in build.
> Thanks for all the suggestions
It is possible that the original switch was introducing noise or
artefacts into the data stream. Might even be the wall-wart switch mode
power supply because the one supplied with the Linksys is certainly more
substantial in build.
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So there must be something very wrong with your original switch, if your
new router sounds significantly better.
Regarding WAV sounding better than FLAC, this has been discussed
before. The only explanation that is plausible is that when the SB3
natively decodes the FLAC, the act itself causes s
Ok...this is what I have found with a couple of changes
1. Changed crossover to straight thru cable on router. No difference in
sound quality. I need crossover when connecting direct from NAS to SB
anyway, so not musch choice if I choose to go direct
2. Changed to Linksys Etherfast router. Very
Just got hold of a Linksys Etherfast wired-only router to compare
against my other switch.
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davidjames;369260 Wrote:
> ...
> Are you saying when I performed the same test using a joke I wrote in
> MS Word it wasn't funnier with the better switch?
>
> Damn.
not only that Sir, but if you zip/unzip said word document in the
process, you joke will loose all its fun, it will become a lamen
Malor;369088 Wrote:
> I don't know about the other claims, but I can absolutely
> guaran-damn-tee you that there will be no subtle differences in sound
> quality from your network connection. It's packetized data with error
> correction. Either it delivers correct bits fast enough or it doesn't
Malor wrote:
> I don't know about the other claims, but I can absolutely
> guaran-damn-tee you that there will be no subtle differences in sound
> quality from your network connection.
Hey, this is audiophiles. Cables make a difference. You need to test
both solid strand and stranded CAT5 cable
> Hi Robin
> I don't think that I am imagining it. I did read somewhere that the
> quality of the switch does effect overall audio performance due to
> inadequate transfer speeds or similar delays.
> I have listened to both combinations and there is definitely better
> audio playback when connecte
mswlogo;366988 Wrote:
> Sure you are entitled to your opinion/observation. But if the generally
> well informed public believes its nonsense it will be challenged. Not
> out of disrespect. If it's not (i.e. folks just ignore it) then not so
> well informed people will read it and believe it (see
All cables are unshielded cat 5. The SB3 is powered by a Regulated
linear power supply set to 5 volts. All other units run off their own
power packs.
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maxrob200;368410 Wrote:
> Sorry I though the post was reasonably clear
> No it sounds better with the switch OFF, the only con was a slight drop
> in level but less sibilance in voices, better bass, depth and soundstage
> but a liitle loss in perceived dynamics, which could be due to less
> brigh
Sorry I though the post was reasonably clear
No it sounds better with the switch OFF, the only con was a slight drop
in level but less sibilance in voices, better bass, depth and soundstage
but a liitle loss in perceived dynamics, which could be due to less
brighness(sibilance)
Swithched ON, it wa
maxrob200;368381 Wrote:
> Hi NIck,
>
> Done the listening test by playing with switch connected and then
> pulling the power from it and allowing buffered music to play.
> All playback equipment has been playing for at least 2 hours before
> test to ensure adequate warm-up time.
>
> With power
Hi NIck,
Done the listening test by playing with switch connected and then
pulling the power from it and allowing buffered music to play.
All playback equipment has been playing for at least 2 hours before
test to ensure adequate warm-up time.
With power OFF to the switch there was a slight drop
No, the best way to test this is as follows: connect everything with the
switch in between and start playing a track where you could hear the
difference before. When the track is halfway, power-off the switch by
pulling the power-plug/adapter from AC outlet. Do -not- pull anything
else like ethern
jeffmeh;367638 Wrote:
> If the switch is causing noise on your power lines, you could try
> direct-connect to the NAS
Hi Jeffmeh,
That's what I've been doing, direct connection, leaving the switch
connected to network and IMHO direct sounds better each and every time,
hence my posts regarding di
If the switch is causing noise on your power lines, you could try
direct-connect to the NAS, but leave the switch plugged in where you
normally keep it. If you still think the direct-connect sounds better,
then you can probably rule out the hypothesis that the switch is
introducing noise on the p
I intend to use another router/switch of higher quality to determine if
that is causing the deterioration in sound quality.
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Hi maxrob200!
Sounds strange with direct access vs Router, But who knows?
I hear a difference between Slimserver Firmwares,Router wireless
channels, Flac VS WAVE..
This is Pretty weird to.. But i Believe "All this" has to do with EMI
Anyway maybe this thread interests you?
http://forums.slimde
maxrob200;366954 Wrote:
>
> As mentioned earlier, it was not so long ago that the general belief
> was that all cables sounded the same
That's not a belief, it's a fact* - and that fact hasn't changed at
all, recently or otherwise.
> or all that an amplifier had to do was demonstrate " straig
I agree there is plenty we don't understand which is why I leave some
room for doubt always. And in general, I agree with the scientific
method whilst noting that over time science evolves, with the odd
revolution now and then, indicating that scientists at any given time
don't have it all right!
Robin Bowes;366978 Wrote:
>
> (2) is just not possible. Let me attempt an analogy.
>
> You, Sean, and myself are all sitting at a table with our laptops. They
>
> are not connected in anyway.
>
> I have an image file I want to send to you.
>
> Consider these two scenarios:
>
> 1. I write th
tomjtx;366943 Wrote:
> That sounds dangerously like tolerance and has absolutely no place on an
> audiophile forum.Tolerance is also a necessary ingredient of electronics. ;)
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things happen for many reasons in audio when people hear differences.
listening to music with a switch may sound different simply because the
power supply of said switch is horrible and introduces noise everywhere
else.
i had a friend who preferred the sound of loudspeakers that surprised
me. fo
At the risk of being told again that I am imagining the differences, I
have listened to switched and non-switched playback with a variety of
music and as much as I would like to bow to general opinion, I can
still hear differences in these areas: less sibilance in vocals,
smoother sound, more spac
Some generic thoughts, NOT directed at anyone or anything in this
thread-
Many of the smartest people I have known have been far more aware of
what they didn't know, than of what they did know.
Many of the dumbest people I have known have been incredibly stubborn,
and too slow to realize when t
I agree that open mindedness is important. Sometimes though in the face
of "generally accepted" conclusions, some idea or experience comes
along that can cause incredulous reactions and start an alternative way
of thinking or experimentation. I have never dismissed opinions or
discussions as "pooh
maxrob200;366954 Wrote:
>
>
> It is interesting to note that by posting an opinion that I have now
> been relegated to the "imagining things" category. As mentioned
> earlier, it was not so long ago that the general belief was that all
> cables sounded the same or all that an amplifier had to d
Good analogy. I will bear that in mind and continue testing.
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Robin Bowes;366978 Wrote:
> maxrob200 wrote:
>
> > It is interesting to note that by posting an opinion that I have now
> > been relegated to the "imagining things" category. As mentioned
> > earlier, it was not so long ago that the general belief was that all
> > cables sounded the same or all
maxrob200 wrote:
> It is interesting to note that by posting an opinion that I have now
> been relegated to the "imagining things" category. As mentioned
> earlier, it was not so long ago that the general belief was that all
> cables sounded the same or all that an amplifier had to do was
> demons
Robin Bowes;366670 Wrote:
> maxrob200 wrote:
>
> > In the quest for better sound I have taken the advice of the
> > audiophiles in this forum and done the following
>
> More advice: be careful whose advice you take, especially
> "audiophiles'"
>
> > 2. Connecting the SB3 directly to the NAS ra
It's not wireless, using cable.
I am only describing what I hear and yes it is subjective so blind
tests within a group could be an interesting exercise.
It is interesting to note that by posting an opinion that I have now
been relegated to the "imagining things" category. As mentioned
earlier,
Themis;366925 Wrote:
> Well, personal beliefs *are* part of the listening experience, actually.
> :)
>
> I would even say that the whole listening process is part of a belief.
>
> We always enjoy the music imagining that the artist and instruments are
> right in front of us, when it's just a bu
Well, personal beliefs *are* part of the listening experience, actually.
:)
I would even say that the whole listening process is part of a belief.
We always enjoy the music imagining that the artist and instruments are
right in front of us, when it's just a bunch of plastic, metal and wood
movin
This is about to get into a religious debate. It's obvious you don't
believe that your mind can influence what you hear, otherwise you would
wish to investigate further by doing some blind tests. Some of the
others on the forum, me included, believe that our minds can and do
influence what we hear
maxrob200 wrote:
> And no, I am not imagining the sound differences between standalone and
> connected to the switch.
Yes you are. You really, really, are.
> Like the age old debates among audiophiles about cable differences as
> well as amplifier differences despite measurements being identical
I want to set a static IP for the SB so that I can use it just with the
NAS, nothing to do with sound quality. At the moment, when I just use
the NAS and SB, the SB cannot locate the NAS if it has been switched
off from the mains. If I just switch cables it works fine as IP has
already been given
bhaagensen;366695 Wrote:
> As long as the music plays, i.e. your not getting breakups, pops,
> crackles etc. and the switch works for other purposes, there is no way
> the switch can affect sound-quality. I won't go into details, but this
> is way different than any discussions on e.g. cables, fi
I have noticed that mids are less muddled and there is more air around
individual instruments when I use a 10.0.0.0 IP address compared to a
192.168.0.0 IP addressing scheme.
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seanadams wrote:
> maxrob200;366628 Wrote:
>> Ok, point taken. I will use standard Cat 5 or 6
>> I intend to use SB with NAS only once files are uploaded. How do I set
>> a static IP for the SB. Is it in slimserver software or SSOTS? I have
>> done it for the NAS
>
> Would a static IP make it sou
maxrob200;366628 Wrote:
> Ok, point taken. I will use standard Cat 5 or 6
> I intend to use SB with NAS only once files are uploaded. How do I set
> a static IP for the SB. Is it in slimserver software or SSOTS? I have
> done it for the NAS
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maxrob200;366685 Wrote:
> I did read somewhere that the quality of the switch does effect overall
> audio performance due to inadequate transfer speeds or similar delays.
>
As long as the music plays, i.e. your not getting breakups, pops,
crackles etc. and the switch works for other purposes, t
Inadequade transfer speeds are not to be expecteded at all until your
switch is broken. It has to be fast enough to fill that little RAM in
the Squeezebox.
If it can´t handle that there must be something broken!
And regarding audiophiles (i post there sometimes also) Don´t take
everything as grant
maxrob200;366685 Wrote:
> Hi Robin
> I don't think that I am imagining it. I did read somewhere that the
> quality of the switch does effect overall audio performance due to
> inadequate transfer speeds or similar delays.
>
This is incorrect. A (working) switch and a (working)
direct-connectio
Hi Robin
I don't think that I am imagining it. I did read somewhere that the
quality of the switch does effect overall audio performance due to
inadequate transfer speeds or similar delays.
I have listened to both combinations and there is definitely better
audio playback when connected directly j
maxrob200 wrote:
> In the quest for better sound I have taken the advice of the
> audiophiles in this forum and done the following
More advice: be careful whose advice you take, especially "audiophiles'"
> 2. Connecting the SB3 directly to the NAS rather than through a switch.
> Noticeably bette
Ok, point taken. I will use standard Cat 5 or 6
I intend to use SB with NAS only once files are uploaded. How do I set
a static IP for the SB. Is it in slimserver software or SSOTS? I have
done it for the NAS
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Hi
I am new to the forum and thanks to the info posted I have got my SB3
and QNAP NAS up and running nicely.
In the quest for better sound I have taken the advice of the
audiophiles in this forum and done the following
1. Grounded the co-ax digital out with a RCA plug terminated with 75
ohm resi
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