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Jason-
Why not just invest in a half-dozen (or however many you need) PIX 501's and
be done with it.
This way, you ditch the "Cheapo Router", the 2500, and the "IPSEC
appliance".
If I recall correctly, the PIX 501 has PPPoE support (after all, that's the
niche market its targeting!) and it can d
Daniel- I'm sure it can't be done with only one Ethernet Interface alone...
even if you trunked the ethernet interface to a Switch and ran two Vlans
that connected (routed) back together via another router (which would push
the question of "what's the point").
But, Maybe a Loopback interface coul
Maybe someone can help me out. I have to configure ipsec on a cisco 2600. My
company wants to use this for a vpn to one of our partners. My question is
how do I configure this using only one ethernet port. (that's all that is on
the 2600 we have)
I came up with the following configs for both e
Never mind.. Thanks... LOL
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> Anybody encounter a similar error on MC3810 and managed to fix it
> Nothing is configured on the 3810 as yet
>
> SLR6-3810#show running
>
> 00:40:23: %SYS-2-MALLOCFAIL: Memory allocation
Anybody encounter a similar error on MC3810 and managed to fix it
Nothing is configured on the 3810 as yet
SLR6-3810#show running
00:40:23: %SYS-2-MALLOCFAIL: Memory allocation of 262144 bytes failed from
0x1F1
4D8, pool Processor, alignment 0
-Process= "Exec", ipl= 0, pid= 19
-Traceback
IMHO - You will need at least a /21 as some ISP's set policies that will
filter anything less.
Best bet is to pick up a copy of: Internet Routing Architectures, Second
Edition. ISBN# 1-57870-233-X.
This book will also introduce you to the third item to consider when
connecting to two ISP's: Symm
Has anyone ever heard of a ISDN PRI module which can be installed in a
server?
Bruce
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If by dynamic, you mean GRE multipoint tunneling (with keys) You got it!!
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Phil, here's my 2620. Looks as if there's atleast one updated ROM
available.
ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
cisco 2620 (MPC860) processor (revision 0x102) with 59392K/6144K bytes of
memory
16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)
-Stefan
Thank you for the input everyone. I knew a reload would reset the buffer
totals. I thought I remembered one time resetting those totals somehow
without reloading, and I thought I would propose it to the big
brain.this study group...hehe
Thanx again
Scott
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Wouldnt ipsec wallop a 2500 cpu??
Brian "Sonic" Whalen
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On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, the-other-jason wrote:
> Henry -
>
> Absolutely right, the "dynamic" keyword for crypto maps solves the
> problem, but our Cisco SE and quite a few others at work are quite sure
> th
I did as search as weel, and everyone comes to the same conclusion. reload.
I even searched all the hidden command sites.
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> I think you may have to reload the router to reset these counters. I've
> never see
To make connections to separate ISPs work, you need to have
some address space assigned to you that is large enough to be
routed successfully. This generally means that you have to
have at least a /24 prefix.
Once you've successfully gotten that address space from one of
your providers you
Hmm.. I cleared my CCIE(written) in second attempt in Spetember without
having the nearest CCIE about 300 km away from me .
I dont know about which valley are you talking about , but I am staying
in one of the most backward places as far as IT is concerned
I am staying in North west
policy routing (using route-maps).
You can specify next-hop and/or which outbound interface to use, etc.
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I think you may have to reload the router to reset these counters. I've
never seen a command to reset these counters and given what you're doing a
reload might be called for anyway to avoid problems (i.e. memory
fragmentation, etc.).
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>Hi Guys,
>
>Is there a way to setup a static route on a cisco router so that packets
>going to the same target get forwarded to different interfaces/addresses
>according to the source addresses?
>
>Your help is greatly appriciated.
>Joy Wang
>
Not with static routing alone, but that's exactly wh
You need to use policy-based routing for this. You can find
plenty of information on CCO about this, but here's a link to
get you started.
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/
122cgcr/fqos_c/fqcprt1/qcfpbr.htm
Watch out for the wrap, that's a long link.
HTH,
Joh
Anyone got the skinny on this one. I have version 11.3(2)XA3 ROMs
running in my 2611 and was told my 16 Meg FLASH upgrade did not take
because I need to upgrade the ROMs.
Is Cisco offering anything newer ??? Both my 2621 and 2611 have the
same ROMs and my 2621 is 16F and 64 RAM device.
T
As someone once told me, BGP, OSPF, BGP, VLSM, OSPF, BGP, and some OSPF and
BGP.
When I prepare for an exam, then FIRST and LAST things I do are look at the
Cisco sheet that tells what topics are on the exam. Knowing what is on the
test before you start reading helps, and also lets you get a feel
Hai,
BGP, EIGRP and OSPF then VSM and route sumamarization. Might need to check
on RIP and IGRP also. I will take the exam again tomorrow, will give an
update tomorrow
:)
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> Sent:
route maps.
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>
> Is there a way to setup a static route on a cisco router so that packets
> going to the same target get forwarded to different interfaces/addresses
> according to the source addresses?
>
> Your
There is no physical limitation to the number of neighbors in either
protocol. Cisco does recommend 50, but you can do 60 or higher. the limit
is your router's performance.
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> Douglas,
> I donot have books with me now, sorr
Hi Guys,
Is there a way to setup a static route on a cisco router so that packets
going to the same target get forwarded to different interfaces/addresses
according to the source addresses?
Your help is greatly appriciated.
Joy Wang
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As far as we know, when you connect to two ISPs for load balancing and fault
tolerance, you have to configure BGP, please refer
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/459/40.html
but from the above examples, you have to have your own AS number. If I don't
have my own AS number, I can not connect to
> Hello Murtaza,
> My problem was that the core router was running BGP (simulated ISP
> connection) and I also had the 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 s0 route and I
redistributed
> this into eigrp so as to inject a default route of D EX to other routers
in
> my EIGRP domain.
> Question is: Would this default rou
Honestly, I'm not sure if the ISA is available for the 7500 series or not,
but you shouldn't need it.
In the 7100 & 7200 series the ISA card is a hardware accelerator for IPSEC.
Without it, IPSEC is done in software.
You should be able to do IPSEC in the 7513 without the ISA, just no telling
how
It should work using 12.0 on a 1720 router. We use 12.0.7T on our 1720s,
and traffic shape using map-classes and priority queueing
What does your config look like, what commands are you using to verify
traffic shaping is/isn't on?
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Hello everyone,
I have been looking on Cisco's site for the last hour trying to find a
command to clear the counters on the show buffers command. Does anyone know
how to clear the totals for the hits, misses, trims, created and so forth?
Background Info: I modified the small and middle buffers
I just paid $125 (US Dolalrs) per exam. Not sure what that might convert to
in Rupies.
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Does anyone have any "pearls of wisdom" about what to concentrate on as I
prepare for the 640-503 exam?
What type of questions were on the exam if you already took the test?
Regards,
Serge.
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I already did a frame-relay traffic shaping and limit with CIR, but did not
function.
What else can I do instead of upgrading the IOS?
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To:
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Subject: Re: Traffic-rate shape [7:32072]
> Try upgrading t
Thanks for your help, I was just going through a lab and this question came
to my mind. Can you explain why when using NAT would you need to advertise
router IDs. I am really dense today. Thanks
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Douglas,
I donot have books with me now, sorry cannot tell you the pages# to search.
I took switching exam at begining of this month and remember about it. The
limitation (50) is for the protocol characteristics, not for the interface
or the router.
Cheer,
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why? because!
check the RFC - the explanation is there.
Chuck
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> Oh! BTW: Forgot to ask you as to why OSPF lists the route as a /32 and not
> as a /24 as it should be in a point-to-multipoint mode?
>
> O 7.7.7.3/
Douglas,
The Switching 640-504 course material from Cisco press says the limitations
peer neighbor routers for OSPF and EIGRP is 50. I also read that from cisco
doc in the section talk about Dual Core.
Cheer,
Tu Do.
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What about router id's? Are they all unique? I set something up in the lab
once and mistakenly made the rid's of 2 routers the same, that caused some
weird stuff to happen.
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In a hub-and-spoke environment the spokes will not become neighbors.
This is why--if you're using either broadcast or NBMA network
types--that it's important to force the hub to be the DR. All routers
on a broadcast or NBMA network must form an adjacency with the DR and
BDR but that's not possib
Oh! BTW: Forgot to ask you as to why OSPF lists the route as a /32 and not
as a /24 as it should be in a point-to-multipoint mode?
O 7.7.7.3/32 [110/128] via 7.7.7.1, 00:07:18, Serial0
O 7.7.7.1/32 [110/64] via 7.7.7.1, 00:07:18, Serial0
Thank you.
>From: "Chuck Larrieu"
>Reply-T
>Listers.
>
>I would like to make some routing changes to a mostly static routing
>environment. Currently everything is either routed via default gateway, or
>static route statements.
>
>the environment consists of about 30 remote point to point WAN sites, with
>most data traffic consisting of I
If you're using physical interfaces and there are two spokes in the
network then two frame relay map statements on each router should fix
this problem. The issue is that RTRA can't ping the interface on RTRC
because it has no map for it. If you turn on debug ip packet you'll see
'encapsulation f
George-
Please re-read my post (carefully), I do NOT want to run login scripts when
users VPN in from home.
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> When I was dealing with this situation before, if the PC was configured
> to be a network cli
I just had a quick question. What is the general concensus on the lab guide
from CCBOOTCAMP? Is this a "must-have"? Thank you.
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Officially, Call Manager supports only MCS, Compaq and IBM platforms.
Is it possible to tweak any Win2000 server, so that call manager setup
thinks it is one of the mentioned platforms ?
I would really appreciate any input.
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Hello,
Just reconfigured my 3 routers from non-broadcast to point-to-multipoint
mode. Can see the routes on all 3 routers and can actually ping from RTA to
RTC's networks fine and vice-versa.(RTB is acting as the hub).
Problem is I don't see RTA forming a neighbor relationship with RTC and
vice
You can set up BGP and receive default only also if thats all your
looking for. I understand the reticence of the ISP in communicating
with a IGP though that just wasn't clear in your original post.
Dave
sam sneed wrote:
>
> One of the reasons was that the Datacenter we are in only use BGP o
You are going to have problems with this running HSRP I think. Even if you
track the state of the Ethernet interface from which you receive your
primary default route, if there is a soft failure on their side you will
still not be able to get out because the active router will have no reason
to g
For anyone who has seen, both, the CCIE practical studies book, and
attempted the lab, how realistic are the labs in the back of the book?
The stuff dosen't look impossible (I'm not saying it's easy) but it looks
like the problem will be time. Is this true? Are the labs tougher than the
book?
Thanks, that confirms my suspicions. When I saw that note in the
configuration guide I thought I was losing my mind. When I checked CCO
and saw that there *wasn't* an ISA available for the 7513 I got really
confused.
John
>>> "the-other-jason" 1/15/02 3:13:57 PM
>>>
CCO says you can use IPS
As I have mentioned before, in this topology I would use EIGRP.
Enable EIGRP on all routers and their perspective networks. At the core
create an access-list permiting only default and distribute this list
out to the remotes. This way everything is learned dynamically but do
not have a full rou
split horizon is NEVER an issue with OSPF. Nor with BGP
If you are using the physical interfaces in all cases, and you are trying to
ping the directly connected interface of the other side, your pings will
fail. This is true of all routing protocols. At least according to the
extensive experiment
why do you think you need to change? seriously? what would dynamic routing
give you that you don't have now - in terms of stability and the like?
it might seem an odd thing to say, but I believe that dynamic routing in
small environments, and maybe even in some larger environments, is over
rated
is it a dhcp request?
Not sure that it would come up during an icmp debug though.
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> After I type debup ip icmp I've got this.Why is the source address 0.0.0.0
?
> 1w0d: IP: s=0.0.0.0 (FastEthernet0/0), d=255.255.25
Try upgrading the IOS or do CBWFQ or frame-relay traffic shaping and limit
with CIR. Create a map class and add map class to subinterface.
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>
> I have a 1720 with 2 WIC-1T. I have 2 frame-relay radiomodem conne
Hello,
I have RTA and RTC as spoke routers connected to a FR router. I have RTB
connected as the hub. I have OSPF configed as a non-broadcast mode on all
three routers. They are all on the same subnet, 7.7.7.0/24
The routing table of RTB shows networks from RTA and RTC and I can ping
successful
When 2 PIXen are configured in failover mode, only the primary is active,
the other is standby. If you want to do load-sharing you can use either a
layer 4-7 load balancer like the CSS1100 series from Cisco or you can play
some games with a routing protocol. However, given the speed of the PIX,
CCO says you can use IPSEC on a 7513 (and I've seen, if memory servers,
DES56 secure shell, so the encryption itself should not be a problem)
if the image is intended for a 7513 (i.e., rsp) and it includes
IPSEC, nothing should crash and/or burn (i.e., a 7200 image won't load
on a 7500).
One of the reasons was that the Datacenter we are in only use BGP or OSPF as
routing protocols. They use OSPF for there inside network and will only let
us use BGP4 to connect with them. We considered using RIPv2 since we only
need them to advertise the default gateway to use. It seems however the
Hi,
I have a 1720 with 2 WIC-1T. I have 2 frame-relay radiomodem connected to
each
port. Each port has 2 sub-interfaces.
What I need is to limit the bandwidth on the sub-interface to 64k.
Right now I am using the command traffic-rate shape 64000 on a CISCO 2620 and
it is working good, but not o
there has been so many threads and opinions on this, it would probably do
you better to check the archives.
-Patrick
>>> "Bullock, Jason" 01/15/02 04:46PM >>>
Listers.
I would like to make some routing changes to a mostly static routing
environment. Currently everything is either routed via d
uhhh... Well
I guess you could place the switches mac in the arp cache of the router at
that facility under the ip address you want to assign to it...then telnet to
the ip address you have in cache. I haven't tried this on cisco devices
before...It could be considered a security flaw for a swit
I don't see how or why you would choose BGP??? Unless your dual
homing to the Internet or connecting large disparate IGP networks. Any
IGP will give you fault tolerance, some are just more quick to converge.
Dave
sam sneed wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have a question I hope someone maybe able
I don't know about a hard limit but me thinks you'll hit the practical
limit first anyway:) Is this an acedemic question???
Dave
"Robertson, Douglas" wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of limitation in the amount of EIGRP neighbors on a
router.
> If there is, is this a limitation per physical inte
Listers.
I would like to make some routing changes to a mostly static routing
environment. Currently everything is either routed via default gateway, or
static route statements.
the environment consists of about 30 remote point to point WAN sites, with
most data traffic consisting of IP. We
Henry -
Absolutely right, the "dynamic" keyword for crypto maps solves the
problem, but our Cisco SE and quite a few others at work are quite sure
that we can't run IPSec on a 2500. I thought the 2500s could be used
just to provide cleartext encapsulation (to keep the vpn appliances
happy) ..
No, one is active the other standby
Dave
Marilyn Potter wrote:
>
> Can you load balance with two Pix Firewalls? and how
> do you do it? It you have one as failover I don't
> think this works. Or do you do the load balance on
> the switches/routers on the ends?
>
> _
Sent this yesterday but it doesn't seem to have come through.
In response to some of the other comments on this thread, an MTU mismatch
will definitely cause the OSPF neighbours to not be neighbourly :-) I
have come across this when upgrading a frame relay service from standard
serial (MTU 15
Hi, how can i remotely assign ip to switches?
Thanks
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Hi, how can i remotely assign ip to switches?
Thanks
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Cargello,
Yes! The MC3810 does support VoIP. However, you require a special
feature set load that includes VoIP it is recognised by 'v5' in the
feature code. eg IP Plus with voip mc3810-isv5-mz_121xxx, enterprise
plus with ATM and VoIP support mc3810-a2jsv5-mz_121xxx.
In order to run the VoIP
I'm confused about what is needed to run IPSec on a 7513. The Cisco IOS
Security Configuration Guide mentions that an Integrated Services
Adapter is needed for IPSec on a 7200 or 7500 series router. However,
upon looking closer at the ISA, CCO says that this is only for the 7100
or 7200 routers.
Does anyone know of limitation in the amount of EIGRP neighbors on a router.
If there is, is this a limitation per physical interface or a limitation
per router. I found a document on CCO a couple of months ago that mentioned
these limits but I have now searched and searched but cannot find that
If I get this correctly you can use dynamic-map feature
as seen in the example here:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/707/ios_804.html
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> Help, I can't think of a way to do this . :-(
>
> We have two IPSec "a
Help, I can't think of a way to do this . :-(
We have two IPSec "appliances" at work that require known, routable
addresses on their "non-secure" ethernet interfaces.
We want to create a kit engineers can take home for remote IPSec access
into the network from personal cable/dsl connection
It sure helps to "nail-down" the router-id when playing around with DR/BDR
elections or with virtual-links (since you point to the router-id)
I believe that bootcamp lab #1 has some gotchas that refer to router-id
issues. Not that I spent a ton of time (grin) getting this lab to work only
to find
Can you load balance with two Pix Firewalls? and how
do you do it? It you have one as failover I don't
think this works. Or do you do the load balance on
the switches/routers on the ends?
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Moroni,
I studied hard on ATM LAN switching. I passed 640-504 on 01-02-02. There was
no question about ATM in the exam. I checked with cisco.com and found ATM
was removed.
Good luck,
Tu Do.
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I passed 640-504 on 01-02-02. I studied deeply for ATM LAN. That was my
mistake, I didnot check out with cisco.com to see: No ATM technologies in
the exam. In the exam that I took, there are no ATM questions. You will be
hit hard on STP, MLS, Multicast and Cisco property protocols...
I am happy be
Well, that depends. If you use a loopback as the router id, and part of
that loopback subnet is used for other things also, such as NAT, then you
definitely want to advertise it out, since the NAT would never work if you
didn't. If not, then you don't have to. Why do you ask, is this for a
part
Have you checked to make sure all of the ports that your clients and servers
are setting in are in both VLANs?
Have you enabled Port Fast on the client ports?
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I just remembered that I actually have an Intel router connected to a 7513
via a T1 that comes in on an MCT3 card, and the encapsulation is PPP. The
mtu is 1500 bytes, as opposed to the 2044 that is configured on yours. Just
wanted to let you know.
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We have had the same issue with our phone system. The problem is not your
call manager or your phone system for that matter. The issue is actually
with the phone system that your calling or is calling you. Digital cannot
echo by nature, but analog does. What needs to be done is a noice
cancell
At 12:44 PM -0500 1/15/02, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
>interesting question. came up in a customer meeting the other day as well.
>
>IMHO, this gets down to design preference.
Agreed. As you suggest, there's art as well as science here.
>I am of the school of thought
>that there needs be some way of g
For more info: www.glcug.com
Topic: Switching Technologies
Presented by: Steve Henry Systems Engineer - Cisco Systems
Date: Wednesday January 30, 2001
Location: Compuware Cafeteria
Time: 6:30 PM
Attendance: Everyone is welcomed
Paul M. Immo CCDP CCNP MCSE
GLCUG Board Member
Clover Technologi
I have had strange problems like this before, but nothing exactly like this.
The hellos should be sent by each router as a keepalive method on point to
point lines, as well as to verify area id, subnet mask on the interface,
authentication, hello interval and so on, and you should see the state
tr
he may have meant the San Joaquin valley, or Yosemite valley, or Rincon
valley ;->
The folks I know in Madera, for example, are good folks and try hard, but
often just don't have the background, theoretical or practical, to deal with
some of the more complex issues that arise.
Chuck
""Marc Vacc
I did not have any ATM related questions you might, but I doubt it.
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I am trying to understand if there would ever be a need to advertise Router
IDs via OSPF. Is this something that is ever done in the real world.
Thanks for your help
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Guess you have either been meeting all the wrong people or you are in the
wrong valley.
Seriously, I do know quite a few CCIE there and some of them ARE great !!
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> High, huh hi!
>
> I must be high to be pursuein
High, huh hi!
I must be high to be pursueing this cert. I hold a CCNP and have bin studying
for 6 weeks 4 hrs a day. I have Caslows book, ExamCram and the QUE prep-kit.
I
also have the 2 tests that Bernard Omrami at Boson has written. I dont feel
confident at all. I score 90% on the first practic
At 11:35 AM 1/15/02, Fraasch James wrote:
>First, thanks for all the information. I forgot to mention that when I did
>a Show ip int brief I saw up and up. Next, here is some pertinent
>configuration information:
>
>Interface Serial 2/5
>mtu 2044
That's kind of a strange MTU. What is the oth
When I was dealing with this situation before, if the PC was configured
to be a network client of the (i.e domain login, email etc.) I would
usually take care of its self. For the times that it would not, I made a
special .bat file that they would click once connected to map drives
using ye ol
I can't speak for the 3600's - the latest I have running on them is
12.1(5)T8 but I only have a couple doing NAT and they're configured with
static entries not multiple pools.
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that's the tool!
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> I believe it is. I did it once with a tool that downloaded the config as
> long as you had the correct RW communi
David,
Another thing that I wonder about is the remote end; what do those routers
look like?
If you have something like this:
+-Hub1---Hub3-+
| \ / |
RemoteX-+ X +-RemoteY
| / \ |
+-Hub2---Hub4-+
You'll probably want to restrict what r
I took this exam back in October of 2001 and it mad very little about ATM
questions at all, maybe 2 at most.
HTH
John
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