Re: Find symbol in unknown module at compile time?

2014-12-07 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 02:58:45 + bitwise via Digitalmars-d wrote: > > if you want to allow external pragmas that allows poking > > private module > > data... well, just make everything in that module public, you > > just > > killed the whole protection thing. ;-) > > This is what I mean, but

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 11:37:00 + Dominikus Dittes Scherkl via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Monday, 8 December 2014 at 08:46:49 UTC, bearophile wrote: > > Freddy: > > > >> Why not keep size_t implictly convertable but disallow it for > >> usize. > > > > This is an interesting idea. (But the name "u

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 14:00:25 + Jonathan Marler via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Monday, 8 December 2014 at 11:49:47 UTC, ketmar via > Digitalmars-d wrote: > > On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 11:37:00 + > > Dominikus Dittes Scherkl via Digitalmars-d > > wrote: > > > &g

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 13:49:30 + Ivan Kazmenko via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Monday, 8 December 2014 at 08:46:49 UTC, bearophile wrote: > > Freddy: > > > >> Why not keep size_t implictly convertable but disallow it for > >> usize. > > > > This is an interesting idea. (But the name "uword" seems

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 13:49:30 + Ivan Kazmenko via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Monday, 8 December 2014 at 08:46:49 UTC, bearophile wrote: > > Freddy: > > > >> Why not keep size_t implictly convertable but disallow it for > >> usize. > > > > This is an interesting idea. (But the name "uword" seems

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 15:52:07 + bitwise via Digitalmars-d wrote: > FWIW, I picked hp D ~2 months ago, and my first project was a > reflection library, so I've had a chance to deal with most of the > language features at least once so far. The naming and presence > of legacy C++ was a little st

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 15:05:18 + Jonathan Marler via Digitalmars-d wrote: > What about 'usize' and 'ptrdiff' ? `sptrdiff`, as i did it in my branch. `ssize` was just an example, i don't like it too. yet `sptrdiff` is still ugly. why 'ptr', what it has to do with pointers at all? why, for exampl

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 15:39:53 + Ivan Kazmenko via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Monday, 8 December 2014 at 14:31:50 UTC, ketmar via > Digitalmars-d wrote: > > On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 13:49:30 + > > Ivan Kazmenko via Digitalmars-d > > wrote: > >> Personally, whe

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 16:03:42 + Kagamin via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Monday, 8 December 2014 at 08:46:49 UTC, bearophile wrote: > > Freddy: > > > >> Why not keep size_t implictly convertable but disallow it for > >> usize. > > > > This is an interesting idea. (But the name "uword" seems > >

Re: Symbol lookup rules and imports

2014-12-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 14:30:08 -0800 Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d wrote: > The two-step lookup method, of current scope then imports in current scope, > is > misunderstood by nearly everyone. this is the clear sign of the existing problem. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: DIP69: problem with scope grammar - need a new keyword

2014-12-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 20:42:48 + deadalnix via Digitalmars-d wrote: > If consistency is a measure, the proposal is a winner. ah, it seems to me that consistency never had high priority. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: DIP69: problem with scope grammar - need a new keyword

2014-12-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 23:15:25 + bearophile via Digitalmars-d wrote: > Walter Bright: > > > I have some ideas, but don't particularly like any of them. But > > I don't want to bias things, so what ideas do you guys have? > > In this thread I have seen lot of discussion about the location >

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 17:33:48 + Gary Willoughby via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Monday, 8 December 2014 at 01:30:35 UTC, ketmar via > Digitalmars-d wrote: > > Hello. > > > > i don't like `size_t`. for many month i avoied using it > > wherever that > &

Re: D3

2014-12-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 21:08:03 + Brad Anderson via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Monday, 8 December 2014 at 20:21:51 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic via > Digitalmars-d wrote: > > On 12/8/14, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d > > wrote: > >> It seems that D3 is already available: > >> > >> https://github.com

Re: Symbol lookup rules and imports

2014-12-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 19:40:38 -0800 Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On 12/8/2014 7:34 PM, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: > > On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 14:30:08 -0800 > > Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d wrote: > > > >> The two-step lookup method, of current

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-09 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 08:26:18 + Kagamin via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Tuesday, 9 December 2014 at 03:48:17 UTC, ketmar via > Digitalmars-d wrote: > > i can remember that too, but i prefer to have the things that i > > can > > logically deduce. i can deduce `usize`:

Re: D3

2014-12-09 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 08:15:00 + Puming via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Tuesday, 9 December 2014 at 05:04:35 UTC, Jeremy DeHaan wrote: > > On Tuesday, 9 December 2014 at 03:52:01 UTC, ketmar via > > Digitalmars-d wrote: > >> On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 21:08:03 + > >&

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-09 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 11:09:44 + Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Mon, 2014-12-08 at 07:18 -0800, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote: > […] > > Yeah, I find in my own experience that gdc -O3 tends to produce code > > that's consistently ~20% faster than dmd -O, especially in > > comp

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-09 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 11:34:34 + Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d wrote: > > > I am not up to compiling gdc from source, but compiling ldc2 is very > > > straightforward, > > to the extent that i can't build git head. ;-) > > Works fine for me, I just built it 15 mins ago. to be honest i tried

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-09 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:34:24 + Gary Willoughby via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Tuesday, 9 December 2014 at 03:48:17 UTC, ketmar via > Digitalmars-d wrote: > >> http://dlang.org/phobos/std_stdint.html > > ah, nobody uses that, and it's not even documented. a forgott

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-09 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:34:24 + Gary Willoughby via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Tuesday, 9 December 2014 at 03:48:17 UTC, ketmar via > Digitalmars-d wrote: > >> http://dlang.org/phobos/std_stdint.html > > ah, nobody uses that, and it's not even documented. a forgott

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-09 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 17:28:15 + Ivan Kazmenko via Digitalmars-d wrote: > A well-designed language allows to recover from errors with good > probability if compiler can recover from error, it should not report the error at all -- 'cause it can fix the code for me. that is absolutely nonsense,

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-09 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 16:55:22 + Gary Willoughby via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Tuesday, 9 December 2014 at 16:10:10 UTC, ketmar via > Digitalmars-d wrote: > > p.s. just out of curiousity: why do you need it? D int types has > > well-defined size, so i can't see any se

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-09 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 18:08:48 + bitwise via Digitalmars-d wrote: > > somehow Walter can't accept that after emiting the first error > > compiler > > is in undefined state, and trying to pretend that it is in > > well-defined > > state or guess what well-defined state must be is a nonsense. >

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-09 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 03:00:56 + bitwise via Digitalmars-d wrote: > > so let "intellisense-like" systems do the guesswork. i don't > > trust a > > compiler that tries to guess what i mean instead of reporting > > the error > > and stop right there. i.e. i once tried PL/1 compiler which was >

Re: Very short anonymous survey

2014-12-10 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 08:02:22 + Kagamin via Digitalmars-d wrote: > The form doesn't accept my input. Just provide your cool build > system so people could use it to build the library. or even better: provide sh-script to build the thing. it can be suboptimal, but if it accepts at least DFLAGS

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-10 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 10:36:22 + Ivan Kazmenko via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Wednesday, 10 December 2014 at 02:15:04 UTC, ketmar via > Digitalmars-d wrote: > > On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 17:28:15 + > > Ivan Kazmenko via Digitalmars-d > > wrote: > > > >

Re: No runtime attribute?

2014-12-10 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 10:46:56 + bearophile via Digitalmars-d wrote: > The #[no_std] attribute is used to avoid the runtime in Rust. > > Do we have any use for a @noruntime attribute in D? > > All @noruntime functions are also @nogc (so you don't need to put > both attributes). > > > This

Re: DIP69 - Implement scope for escape proof references

2014-12-11 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 23:06:13 -0800 Shammah Chancellor via Digitalmars-d wrote: > > Was afraid that would break too much code. > No, this is super important. Break it all! alas, not in this life. each "break our code" just making resistance harder. ;-) signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-11 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 17:17:11 -0800 Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On 12/10/2014 10:28 AM, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote: > > Yeah, the compiler cannot instantiate the template without access to the > > full body. It *could*, though, if we were to store template body IR in > > objec

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-11 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 05:56:23 + Ivan Kazmenko via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On the other hand, I'm fine with the current state, and without > evidence from your side, it's not going to change. So the > inversion of who should bring proofs is also a false claim. it's not going to change even if

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-11 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 08:57:56 + Tobias Pankrath via Digitalmars-d wrote: > >> > >> Storing it as body IR accomplishes nothing practical over > >> storing it as source file, i.e. .di files. > > except that there's no need to parse source code over and over > > again, > > which is good for ot

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-11 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 09:18:05 + Tobias Pankrath via Digitalmars-d wrote: > >> Which usually hold an AST in memory anyway. We have a fast > >> parser, parsing even a big codebase once is really not a > >> problem, see DCD for example. > >> > >> If the only advantage is to skip a parsing stag

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-11 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 09:44:49 + John Colvin via Digitalmars-d wrote: > Parsing is so fast it's not worth spending huge numbers of > man-hours building an effective cacheing system for it. and generating machine code is useless at all, it's enough to simply improve CTFE. > The rest > of comp

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-11 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 10:51:21 + Tobias Pankrath via Digitalmars-d wrote: > >> Come on, that is not even a half decent analogy. > > it is. you can't see any uses of (semi)compiled module files > > (and i > > can; it's essential for component framework, for example). i > > can't see > > any us

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-11 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 12:04:28 + Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d wrote: > BlackBox! A fellow user. :) yeah! i miss BCB almost every day i'm doing any coding. > Another example, the Oberon operating system, specially the > System 3 Gadgets framework. yep, they have the same roots. i didn't ment

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-11 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 12:02:43 + Tobias Pankrath via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Thursday, 11 December 2014 at 11:46:50 UTC, ketmar via > Digitalmars-d wrote: > > > > you can't see how this can help 'cause we don't have such > > AST-companions yet. i c

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-11 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 12:06:39 + Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d wrote: > > with "AST-companions" D is in position to occupy that niche. D > > is > > c-like, D has great metaprogramming abilities, D is > > open-source. it's > > doomed to win. > > To be honest, with .NET Native and OpenJDK get

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-11 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 12:11:35 + Tobias Pankrath via Digitalmars-d wrote: > If what you have in mind is indeed impossible with current object > files, it may > be worthwhile to create our own. But as I see it, the only > benefit of storing an AST is compilation speed, which currently > is no

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-11 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 08:32:39 +0100 Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On 2014-12-11 09:05, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: > > > except that there's no need to parse source code over and over again, > > which is good for other tools (like completion suggestin

Re: Why do you write D2 compiler using C++ language?

2014-12-13 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 11:38:47 + ddj via Digitalmars-d wrote: > You already have better D1. as D2 wasn't created from the scratch, it was easier to reuse already written c++ code. there is no big difference in having D2 compiler written in c++ or in D1, both of them are not D2. DMD c++ is very

Re: Why do you write D2 compiler using C++ language?

2014-12-13 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 13:55:27 + ddj via Digitalmars-d wrote: > Replacing unsupported D1 with unfinished D2 does not seem to me > like good idea for language. that's right. we need D3, 'cause D2 is cluttered with legacy crap. ;-) > But so many issues and bug fixes scares me from using it. nob

Re: Why do you write D2 compiler using C++ language?

2014-12-13 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 14:48:03 + ddj via Digitalmars-d wrote: > > nobody forces you to use current developement versions. stick > > with the > > version of your choice (2.066 for example), that's all. > > Unfortunately it is unclear to me how many current bugs/issues > are related to stable

Re: D game development: a call to action

2014-12-13 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 11:04:45 +1000 Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote: > I'm also very interested in experiments writing game code on > commercial-style engines. > Hobby engines are nice, but we will get a much better feel for using D > in the AAA games industry if a commercial-style engine is used. wh

Re: D game development: a call to action

2014-12-13 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 01:28:45 + Israel via Digitalmars-d wrote: > What my problem is, why hasnt the D standard library implemented > a multimedia library from the ones already available? instead of > having to go and look for one. exactly why any other language except C hasn't one. what is wro

Re: D game development: a call to action

2014-12-13 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 17:20:48 +1000 Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On 14 December 2014 at 16:57, ketmar via Digitalmars-d > wrote: > > On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 11:04:45 +1000 > > Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote: > > > >> I'm also very interested in experiment

Re: D game development: a call to action

2014-12-14 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 17:45:06 +1000 Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote: > >> Hard to describe... just the sort you'd find in a big commercial game. > >> Perhaps I could say something like, highly optimised and purpose > >> specific, as opposed to generalised and flexible/object oriented. > > i've seen s

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-14 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 18:37:26 +1000 Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote: > docs, even if they don't really know the language, after all, "what is > the point of documentation if not to teach the language..." i think that something is *VERY* wrong with them. for teaching the language we have textbooks, an

Re: DIP69 - Implement scope for escape proof references

2014-12-14 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 09:04:58 + Paolo Invernizzi via Digitalmars-d wrote: > Philippe Sigaud Excellent "D Templates: A Tutorial"... > the MANTRA... > > "XXX templates are not XXXs, they are templates. With XXX being > any of (function, struct, class, interface, union)." and that still doesn't

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-14 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 22:13:13 +1300 Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d wrote: > Now I'm back to the GUI situation. talking about GUI toolkits. there is NONE. yep, i know about DWT, GtkD and alot of other projects. they suck. they suck badly. there was a great project once, "Harmonia", but it is de

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-14 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 11:24:30 +0200 ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 22:13:13 +1300 > Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d wrote: > > > Now I'm back to the GUI situation. > talking about GUI toolkits. there is NONE. yep, i know about DWT, GtkD >

i want my bounty!

2014-12-14 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
there is preapproved bounty ER in bugzilla: https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11070 i did that, where is my bounty?! but talking seriously, i don't need any bounty, i just want somebody to take a look at that and either tell me what to fix or integrate it in mainline. along with this one:

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-14 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 22:52:59 +1300 Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d wrote: > > p.s. sorry for me being rude. DWT, GtkD and others are great project of > > great value. it's not about "their authors doing wrong things", that's > > about "i want something completely different!" > > Yeah they are

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-14 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 16:18:26 + yawniek via Digitalmars-d wrote: > well, i am not so sure that commercial models are needed, but > instead of trying to invent a new gui library, make the os > available for 32/64. fix all those projects that deal with db, > gui etc. get rid of all those misl

Re: DUB fails to build a dynamic library on Linux

2014-12-14 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 16:24:13 + Gabor Mezo via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Sunday, 14 December 2014 at 16:06:25 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote: > > On 12/14/2014 03:50 PM, Gabor Mezo wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> I've created a simple db dynamic lib project. > > > > https://github.com/D-Programming-Lang

Re: DUB fails to build a dynamic library on Linux

2014-12-14 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 16:57:20 + Gabor Mezo via Digitalmars-d wrote: > Thank you for your quick help, that was it. > > I do (or at least I'm trying to do) hobbyist D programming as you > guys, that's why I come here to cry at Sunday evening. :) ah, that's ok. but you'd better ask your questio

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 07:48:36 + Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d wrote: > Well, lots of Fortune 500 companies do. google? fb? twitter? instagram? watsapp? those are companies that processes massive traffic. without windows. i prefer to look at them instead of ACME Corp., which don't even know wh

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 13:19:01 +1100 Daniel Murphy via Digitalmars-d wrote: > "ketmar via Digitalmars-d" wrote in message > news:mailman.3160.1418550079.9932.digitalmar...@puremagic.com... > > > but talking seriously, i don't need any bounty, i just want somebody

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 09:14:26 + Dicebot via Digitalmars-d wrote: > Choosing the way of throwing away code is up to you. Contributing > in a way such it is acknowledged by upstream is defined by, > coincidentally, upstream. The line gets drawn exactly at the > moment where you are not satisf

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 09:07:53 + uri via Digitalmars-d wrote: > You were looking forward to that, in fact I'd say trolling for > it... that's not the first time i asking why bugzilla is still able to host patches. i just wanted to make myself sure that "any input is valuable" is blatant lies.

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 09:46:29 + uri via Digitalmars-d wrote: > Ideally there'd be a tool to turn Bugzilla patch submission into > a Github PR. But again it's work *someone* has to do and it isn't > *that* much of a hurdle to get onto Github with a made up account > just for D. except that i

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 10:01:03 + Dicebot via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Monday, 15 December 2014 at 09:31:28 UTC, ketmar via > Digitalmars-d wrote: > > On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 09:07:53 + > > uri via Digitalmars-d wrote: > > > >> You were looking forward to t

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 10:47:29 + John Colvin via Digitalmars-d wrote: > The attachment feature is useful (and is used) for listing large > test-cases, stack traces etc. It is not an exclusive feature for > patches. i don't ever talked about disabling attaches. but there is no sense to allow a

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 11:27:30 + Mengu via Digitalmars-d wrote: > first of all, judging by your language, you don't seem like a guy > who follows guidelines. why are you even complaining if it's > written here or there? 'cause i see something strange in blaming me for doing exactly what was w

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 14:00:34 + MattCoder via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Monday, 15 December 2014 at 10:11:37 UTC, ketmar via > Digitalmars-d wrote: > > ... i'm accepting the fact that D is doomed to be a toy, which > > ocasionally used here and there. i tried to fi

Re: Bug in compiler?

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 16:01:35 +0200 Shachar Shemesh via Digitalmars-d wrote: > Please consider the following program: > import std.exception; > > void main() > { > struct A { > int a; > > @disable this(this); > @disable ref A opAssign(const ref A); > > r

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 11:50:32 -0500 Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d wrote: > your response was "what, peasant? I don't care, that's my patch take it > or leave it." It doesn't surprise me that your patch was "missed" or > ignored. this is the equal answer to "github or GTFO". and this is

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 12:51:47 -0500 Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d wrote: > > and this is not only about this particular patch, it's about the things > > i already mentioned in this discussion. such as having tools that says > > that they are for patches and then blaming the people who use

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 19:04:36 + Piotrek via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Monday, 15 December 2014 at 18:05:22 UTC, ketmar via > Digitalmars-d wrote: > > i will not use github under any circumstances > > Can I ask why? Seriosly. If I may know what you care for. there are se

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 19:01:19 + Jeremy DeHaan via Digitalmars-d wrote: > I don't understand your desire to avoid github, but what ever > your reasons if you are willing to write updates for D there > should be a way for you to get that into a pull request. Perhaps > you could find a surroga

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 11:39:40 -0800 "H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d" wrote: > On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 09:30:59PM +0200, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: > > On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 19:04:36 + > > Piotrek via Digitalmars-d wrote: > > > > > On Monday, 15 D

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 21:08:57 + Wyatt via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Monday, 15 December 2014 at 20:29:23 UTC, ketmar via > Digitalmars-d wrote: > > > > sadly, i'm maintaining my patchset in the form of .patch files. > > git is great for continuous integration,

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-16 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 13:24:34 +1300 Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On 16/12/2014 8:30 a.m., ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: > > so as you can see this is not about GPL or something. this is about > > attitude which i don't like. maybe i'm overreacting,

Re: D game development: a call to action

2014-12-16 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 23:40:43 + bitwise via Digitalmars-d wrote: > @manu > > I'm a little confused.. Looking through your Fuji/Source/Drivers > folder, I see folders for IPhone and Android, among others... > does your engine actually run on these platforms? > > I was under the impression t

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-16 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 21:20:39 +1300 Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d wrote: > Yes but in this case this is mute. You will talk about Github > negatively. You having an account won't cause you to talk positively > about it. but it will add one more user to their statistics. it's bad. but it's n

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-17 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 18:06:25 +1000 Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote: > I'd suggest to look at high-quality commercial documentation, like > MSDN or wherever. please, no! the fact that you are used to it doesn't mean that msdn is a quality dox. besides, msdn references are exactly what phobos documen

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-17 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 18:09:00 +1000 Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On 15 December 2014 at 06:44, Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d > wrote: > > On 2014-12-14 09:37, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote: > > > >> They immediately made comments about goto-definition not working, and > >> auto-completion no

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-17 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 18:41:06 +1000 Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote: > Do we have any vector's into Microsoft to get fixes for D'd debugging > experience into their debugger? Are there any sympathetic developers > at MS? haha. they can't do C99 for decades, so i bet that seeing Hell frozen is much mo

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-17 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 09:48:26 + Tobias Pankrath via Digitalmars-d wrote: > std.container.Array(T) if(is(Unqual!T == bool)) vs. > std.container.Array(T) if(!is(Unqual!T == bool)). > > That's super unhelpful for newcomers. that's why newcomers should NOT try to learn the language using referenc

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-17 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 10:44:25 + Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Wednesday, 17 December 2014 at 10:21:53 UTC, ketmar via > Digitalmars-d wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 18:41:06 +1000 > > Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote: > > > >> Do we have any vector&

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-17 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 10:49:19 + Tobias Pankrath via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Wednesday, 17 December 2014 at 10:33:34 UTC, ketmar via > Digitalmars-d wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 09:48:26 + > > Tobias Pankrath via Digitalmars-d > > wrote: > > > >&

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-17 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 15:01:30 + Wyatt via Digitalmars-d wrote: > > besides, msdn references are exactly what phobos documentation > > is: description of functions. will msdn reference dox help you > > to learn msvc? yet you citing it as "high-quality" and blaming > > phobos dox for doing (or,

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-17 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 16:08:43 + Chris via Digitalmars-d wrote: > Btw, a guy I know could go into a D program I had written and > change things as needed by simply looking at the code and the > library reference. He had no previous knowledge of D. It is > possible to do that in D as well. In

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-17 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 11:47:24 -0800 Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d wrote: > >> Storing it as body IR accomplishes nothing practical over storing it as > >> source > >> file, i.e. .di files. > > except that there's no need to parse source code over and over again, > > which is good for other tool

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 08:17:47 + Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Wednesday, 17 December 2014 at 22:24:09 UTC, Sean Kelly wrote: > > On Wednesday, 17 December 2014 at 17:09:34 UTC, Andrei > > Alexandrescu wrote: > >> On 12/4/14 6:39 PM, deadalnix wrote: > >>> On Thursday, 4 December 2

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 08:09:08 + via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Thursday, 18 December 2014 at 01:16:38 UTC, H. S. Teoh via > Digitalmars-d wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 12:37:43AM +, via Digitalmars-d > > wrote: > >> Regular HD I/O is quite slow, but with fast SSD on PCIe and a > >>

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 08:49:37 + Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On 17 December 2014 at 17:50, Nick Treleaven via Digitalmars-d > wrote: > > On 15/12/2014 19:39, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote: > >> > >> If you put your git repo online somewhere, I wouldn't mind pulling from > >> it

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 09:37:35 + via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Thursday, 18 December 2014 at 08:56:29 UTC, ketmar via > Digitalmars-d wrote: > > didn't i say that the whole "64-bit" hype sux? ;-) that's about > > "memory as database". > >

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:24:36 +1000 Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On 17 December 2014 at 20:33, ketmar via Digitalmars-d > wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 09:48:26 + > > Tobias Pankrath via Digitalmars-d wrote: > > > >> std.container.Arr

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:13:33 +1000 Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote: > >> One thing I know for sure, is when they are confronted with > >> constraints, especially on templates, they have absolutely no idea > >> what they're looking at... > > did they ever tried to learn the language? seems that you j

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 10:23:32 + Ondra via Digitalmars-d wrote: > What about stop flaming and do some research on this. > Create some questionnare of some sort and ask D lang developers > what was hard for them while learning. What they found difficult > about language and then try to improve

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 10:54:22 + Ondra via Digitalmars-d wrote: > No. There are almost no examples on practical usage of packages. > Have you tried to use e.g.: std.json from scratch with only > reading documentation without googling forums for help how to > actually use it? yes. strange thi

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 21:15:25 +1000 Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote: > >> I couldn't disagree more. People aren't allocated work time to read books. > >> Books are for students or language enthusiasts who want to learn about > >> programming in their home time. That doesn't apply to most > >> profess

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 11:43:43 + Ondra via Digitalmars-d wrote: > I meant more to focus only on D. Like : "What do you have most > difficulty with while learning language/you were learning > langeuage?" "What do you consider most confusing part of D > library/language features." etc... that'

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 12:03:55 + Ondra via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Thursday, 18 December 2014 at 11:19:11 UTC, ketmar via > Digitalmars-d wrote: > > On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 10:54:22 + > > Ondra via Digitalmars-d wrote: > > > >> No. There are almost

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 12:07:53 + Ondra via Digitalmars-d wrote: > >> On the other hand I don't feel that templates are so hard. > >> That's actually why i started to learn D. > > i bet you didn't do alot of convoluted templates in C++, aren't > > you? > > 'cause people with that background te

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 17:19:28 + Nick Treleaven via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On 18/12/2014 08:58, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: > > > > too much work for toy hobbyst project. > > > > In case you want free Git hosting other than github, check: > https://git.wiki.k

Re: Inferred Type for Explicit Cast

2014-12-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 22:46:04 + Jonathan Marler via Digitalmars-d wrote: > What are peoples thoughts on having an inferred type for "cast"? > Good/Bad idea? If good, how helpful would this be? Would this > break existing code somehow? I think this feature would be a nice > added convenience

Re: Inferred Type for Explicit Cast

2014-12-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 23:18:16 + "Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d" wrote: > On Thursday, 18 December 2014 at 23:06:12 UTC, ketmar via > Digitalmars-d wrote: > > the only thing this will help is to hide bugs, i believe. > > On the contrary, I find explicit

Re: Inferred Type for Explicit Cast

2014-12-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 23:18:16 + "Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d" wrote: > On Thursday, 18 December 2014 at 23:06:12 UTC, ketmar via > Digitalmars-d wrote: > > the only thing this will help is to hide bugs, i believe. > > On the contrary, I find explicit

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