On 05-Jul-08, at 9:40 AM, Anand Shankar wrote:
> Let us take the discussions to a more serious level.
since you are first serious person in this thread, I suggest you show
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*exactly* is your original contribution here to warrant a
license under CC?
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On 03-Jul-08, at 9:57 AM, Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote:
>> ps - I posted a dissenting mail to the timezone list
>
> Appreciate that :)
and I would have appreciated it more if you had posted your request
for comments to all major lug lists - still not too late for that
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financial capital which houses the hq of the Reserve Bank
etc etc - so just think of Kol as the timezone capital of India and
move on.
ps - I posted a dissenting mail to the timezone list
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Kolkata.
I propose that it be left with Kolkata, or, if changed at all,
changed to Chennai.
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cording to your logic. All you are doing is
fanning the flames of regionalism, chauvinism, confucianism and god
knows what else. For heaven's sake leave this alone and go do
something useful.
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On 02-Jul-08, at 3:37 PM, Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote:
> 1. Legacy Calcutta Standard Time used during the British carried over
> 2. Delhi stands very close to Dili in pronunciation and spelling, and
> can be confusing.
If it aint broken why fix it?
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On 30-Jun-08, at 9:46 PM, Jasbir Khehra wrote:
> Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 30-Jun-08, at 6:05 PM, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
> [snip]
>>
>> software is knowledge. Knowledge cannot be bought or sold. It can
>> only
pent in giving you the
knowledge.
This is the best ever definition I have seen of FOSS.
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stingly enough, I am unable to find in the lists of FOSS
business models any mention of a business model of selling FOSS as a
product. But I suppose in view of the results of this debate, this
will change.
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licence. What violation do you see
> here?
software is knowledge. Knowledge cannot be bought or sold. It can
only be shared.
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e there was no VAT in tamilnadu).
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On 30-Jun-08, at 3:49 PM, Dinesh Shah wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:11 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <> wrote:
>> ultimately law is made by the supreme court. There is no such thing
>> as 'settled law', laws are always subject to change - just needs a
>> large
of any software, let alone FOSS
is illegal, immoral and an act of cheating - the only point is, that
the courts have to recognise this.
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common membership. A cross
post to freed.in and ilugd and possibly a sarai list could be justified.
(incidentally I personally feel that references to wikipedia should
be banned because it shows that the person referring has not done his
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mailing list know of
> the answer I got. Perhaps they didn't know.
if you did cross post it is good etiquette to let the other mailing
lists know what answer you got
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e making
comments like this, I suggest you read up on cross posting and the
problems it causes, while you are about it, read up on top posting
and adhere to list etiquette and post properly the next time.
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o know.
cross posts are only justified in announcements of general interests
of several lists, not for self centred attempts to get an answer 'asap'
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f Linux in India, and if sales tax had been
> applicable back then in the mists of time, that's what I would have
> charged.
and when you finally find a buyer for that bridge across the Yamuna
don't forget to add octroi and VAT
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round foss. Note that all
foss developers charge service tax and not sales tax/vat
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On 26-Jun-08, at 11:19 AM, shirish wrote:
> First of all sorry for cross-posting the same query on so many lists.
and an apology justifies the cross-post?
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On 25-Jun-08, at 11:20 PM, Gora Mohanty wrote:
> Looking forward to flamewars^W counter-arguments. Remember, we are
> all kindness and light these days, thanks to the grace of
> St. Gonsalves.
looks like ilugd politburo needs reshuffling again
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On 25-Jun-08, at 6:20 PM, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
> Would it be okay for people to discuss and advocate M$ "Opensource"
> initiative here?
no
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urious , How does it matter ??
>
> If I may broaden the question (not original, just bringing it up after
> many years):
>
> What sort of licence applies to mails on a mailing list such as this
> one?
>
> Should we define an explicit, default licence for mails on this list?
damn it!)
I know a guy who licenses his farts under CC
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st done to trivialise the CC license and make everyone laugh
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> indignant fool at the end?
it is more likely to wind up fully open source if we allow them in
than if we only allow them in when they are fully 'purified'
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person from doze to dual-boot as a first step. Thiink of
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the stand on advocacy of
something that is in the process of being opensourced?
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On 18-Jun-08, at 7:58 PM, Gaurav Mishra wrote:
> Guys,
>
> I request everyone to stop this thread discussion and move on
> with life.
why?
>
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jor flame war raging and no one
has become abusive yet. Amazing.
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On 18-Jun-08, at 4:18 PM, Angad Singh wrote:
>> could you give the link of the mail in which you have mentioned this?
>>
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/msg21551.html
it is pen and paper - I think somebody owes you an apology
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the scope within which the list operates are *not* the office bearers
of ILUGD. Rather it is the members of the list - not one man one vote
- but the listadmins should feel the pulse of the members and
implement accordingly. Of course, if moderation is an optio
fter one failed attempt. It is
really cool.
ps please refrain from bottom posting - there is a lot of material
above which you should have trimmed before posting.
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e height of craziness ! I am out of this thing now. LOL.
> I had
> just seen LiveScribe in JavaONE session video
could you give the link of the mail in which you have mentioned this?
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wrong map of India on their website.
>>
> lol lol lol
> pass me your book "101 way to protest anything"
I am not downloading to protest their still not supporting indic
fonts in the default verrsion
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for ILUGD and not for this list. Or rather this list and ilugd are
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u implying that his motives are love of money and not love
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> rules.
how much to enforce rules is always a group decision. But one thing,
using rules to shoot down another persons arguments is not correct.
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On 17-Jun-08, at 4:09 AM, Angad Singh wrote:
> Reply offline and I'll show you some of my work (as it migh be
> considered
> promotion of some sort if I post the links here)
if the source is available feel free to post here
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put the new subject line. And there is thread
forking where a new subject takes off from and existing thread and
becomes a subthread (like I am doing in this post).
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These are the few which I came across :
>
> Joomla , Drupal , Mambo , typo3 .
>
> Please let me know whch one to head for ..
plone
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hi,
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On 16-Jun-08, at 5:52 PM, Sirtaj Singh Kang wrote:
> On Saturday 14 June 2008, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> [snip]
>> I use a paper pad - it is exactly like a real paper pad (in fact it
>> *is* a real paper pad) - and I have enough kingfisher pens to last me
>> a lif
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w seconds
> once
> the meeting is over, or to send out plans and sketches for various
> things that came up during the meeting.
cellphone camera ---> bluetooth --> email
>
> Besides, remember - we _are_ still trying to save the tres!
best way to save trees is to ban toilet pap
apps and some sanity in managing content ). I find xournal to be
> exactly like a real paper pad,
I use a paper pad - it is exactly like a real paper pad (in fact it
*is* a real paper pad) - and I have enough kingfisher pens to last me
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On 10-Jun-08, at 3:59 PM, narendra sisodiya wrote:
> you asked abt OLPC w/ Linux or windows
> so,, I was saying about OLPC should be with Linux
but negroponte has opted for windoze
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ting cases would of course be
acceptable too.
We would be happy if members of these lists could suggest places he
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On 10-Jun-08, at 3:14 PM, narendra sisodiya wrote:
> It should be with Linux,
what should be with linux?
>
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On 10-Jun-08, at 1:47 PM, narendra sisodiya wrote:
> hey,, what is the status of OLPC, in India, are they available for
> sell , if
> yes then what is the price ??
OLPC with windows or with linux?
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On 10-Jun-08, at 12:56 PM, Yashpal Nagar wrote:
>>> Xandros Linux
>>
>> price?
>>
>
> just £329
oh - not out in India?
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On 10-Jun-08, at 5:00 AM, Yashpal Nagar wrote:
> System config
>
> ASUS eee PC 900
>
> RAM 1GB
>
> Disk 20 GB SSD
>
> processor 800Mhz celeron
>
> Xandros Linux
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d for such a
> channel was felt by me (and a couple of other hackers) during the
> programming discussions held on ##linux-india.
thank god - now ##linux-india will once again be worth living in
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On 08-Jun-08, at 1:28 AM, Angad Singh wrote:
> Blogged about it yesterday:
> http://blogs.sun.com/angad/entry/sourceforge_net_2008_community_choice
>
> I voted for the following projects:
my favourite:
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> RMS has accepted the award[1], not sure if that is the one Raj is
> talking about.
>
> References:
> [1] - http://www.ahref.com/guides/industry/199907/0727piou2.html
this is not a microsoft award - it is an industry award
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hout prejudice, I don't understand the connection. Phatak has
> won a
> MS award. So has Richard Stallman.
just curious - did either of them accept the award?
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mall module
> like rating .plz reply as soon as possible
what is the name of the script?
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On 21-May-08, at 6:52 PM, Linux Linghamish wrote:
> Anyway, go on with your self-satisfying anarchy here. But I assure you
> people will speak up and raise their voice against this at some
> point for
> sure!
please do not top post
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for Mandrake 2008? Is this a good distribution? Is it recommended
> to stay
> with the old version as it may slow my computer down?
the latest is Mandriva 2008 spring and the cd/dvd is available for
download on the mandriva site. Not recommended if you have less than
256 MB of RA
ind in India. I would also suggest getting the help of
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consumer forum is going to understand anything, but by the time you
reach the state forum or national forum you will find more willing
ears. I fail to see how and where the high court has jurisdiction.
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inst such unfair practices.
>>
>
> This is great effort and will help community at large
> but I think this OT discussion has gone too far for
> this list
it is not OT
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se who take the trouble
to put linux in their machines?
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then, that is the price of freedom ...
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please mail srinivasan at au-kbc dot org
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On 14-May-08, at 7:49 AM, aashish khanna wrote:
> i don't know about such a thing.
contact prof Manoj Gaur
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On 14-May-08, at 2:37 AM, Linux Lingam wrote:
> hence the helpful 'decline' or 'do not accept' button or equivalent,
> provided by the user-friendly microsoft.
this is no longer provided - accept or switch off
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On 13-May-08, at 7:31 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> On 13-May-08, at 8:16 AM, aashish khanna wrote:
>
>> I,like many out there, am a total newbie to linux and FOSS and am
>> desperate
>> to learn and work.I have completed my 3rd year IT at NIT Jaipur and
>> just
&
but there are many 3rd and 4th year students familiar with FOSS in
NIT - as well as prof Manoj Gaur who will also guide you.
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On 10-May-08, at 3:24 PM, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
> Wow. Got this mail after the event is over
I got it this morning
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On 08-May-08, at 12:18 AM, Anoop John wrote:
> On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
>> yes. Mandriva rocks big time in terms of hardware support, GUI tools
>> and Newbie friendliness.
> Thanks for your feedback Kenneth. We have been discussing i
istros do you recommend for
> geeks then? Someone who likes to get his hands dirty, and feels happy
> to do so? What should he/she use?
bleeding edge ubuntu - you will be so busy fixing things that you can
safely postpone any *work* you need to do indefinitely.
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egative: at times the urpm database gets locked and you need to do a
physical rm to remove the lock.
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inue asserting that Plone is
> ``hackproof''
> despite all the available evidence, so no more on this thread from me.
interesting how people on the losing side of an argument start
getting personal ... no more from me also
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ece of software may be more secure, it may have
> fewer or
> no known vulnerabilities, it may be well written, it may be crafted
> with security in mind,
excellent description of plone
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On 01-May-08, at 12:10 PM, Linux Lingam wrote:
> nagarjuna's SELF platform is built on plone,
zope, afaik
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ms - far superior to any of the php things being bandied
about. And nowadays, a basic plone install is dead simple.
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Framework" so as to resolve this issue more decently? At least
> then we can ask these organisations to adhere to this framework.
this is the best suggestion I have ever seen on the subject - if you
could set the ball rolling with a framework for this we could start a
wiki page on t
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>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
>>>
>>
>> Yupp, Narendra is very correct upon making a requirement sheet in
>> first
>> place. That makes life a lot easier later on.
) then
> you can also try out Drupal,
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requires a good knowledge of css, js and html - which eliminates 95%
of all web programmers. A long, uphill task.
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Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24,
og in to your Internet Banking account using
> Linux and Firfox within 10 days. Kindly bear with us."
w00t- keep the pressure on
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On 29-Apr-08, at 2:07 AM, narendra sisodiya wrote:
> It is asking for email & password (of yahoo or gmail ) at second
> stage to
> advertise , :( VERY BAD
why are you replying to spam?
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> Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008
> Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi
> http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
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there and
received my first phishing mail with all my details - email address,
full name etc, *before* my account was officially opened - they even
knew the branch in which I had opened it.
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g. A form appears and i click on
'help'. A popup appears with the help message. I click 'close' on the
popup and everything closes and I am returned to the bus company
site. However, the transaction has gone through and I have my ticket.
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On 22-Apr-08, at 5:27 PM, Shiv wrote:
> Are they ideal candidates for inclusion into the Hall Of Shame?
yes
> Also how do we ensure that they comply with other browsers?
shift to axis bank or hdfc bank and tell them you are shifting, blog
it and send them the blog url
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t;
> The group you attempted to subscribe to is moderated, and therefore
> can
> not be subscribed to by email.
that is why I didnt subscribe although I have a googlegroups id - I
dont like the idea of written test and interview to join a group
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On 21-Apr-08, at 9:39 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
>
> On 21-Apr-08, at 12:26 AM, Raj Mathur wrote:
>
>>> Those of you who would like to take active role in shaping the ICT
>>> policy of India, please join this group and voice your opinions.
>>> This group ha
I tried to
join the group I find I have to fill in a questionaire!
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>> ilugd>,
>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Would be better to direct such assist replies to the person than
> the list.
no - could benefit others who want to unsubscribe
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On 14-Apr-08, at 7:18 PM, Rantu Saikia wrote:
> can someone give me the link to unsuscribe from this mailing list?
List-Unsubscribe: <http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd>,
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d with open
> source.
obviously *real* programmers are helpless without these tools
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rrupt it from within. They have already got a
couple of their licenses approved by OSI and are making moves to get
on the OSI board. They will have a large presence in OSCON too. We
all saw how they bought ISO and got that crap OOXML approved as a
standard. It *is* a big deal. Go look at t
/nimish.mspx
>>
>
> Official ? How ?
>
> Completely missed your point !, If microsoft talks about open
> source it`s
> official :P
yes
>
> OMG
s/OMG/OMFG/
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