At 5:45 PM -0500 2/10/15, Lawrence Velázquez wrote:
Having both forums and mailing lists would be
harmful to the community. We'd end up with two
bubbles (one much smaller, probably) that don't
interact with each other.
The only way forums would work is if we migrated *all* discussion there.
On Feb 10, 2015, at 5:47 AM, Clemens Lang wrote:
> On 10 Feb, 2015, at 11:37, René J.V. Bertin wrote:
>
>> As I said, my ~/.macports on my Mac appears to be unused since november 2013
>> or
>> so. However, the tiny test install I have on my Linux system does contain a
>> lot
>> of things that
On Wednesday February 11 2015 11:27:28 Ian Wadham wrote:
> I am the person who has this problem --- about 3 Gb of stuff in ~/.macports
> and a Time Machine that goes berserk, running mtmd [1] at about 90% CPU
> during "port clean" for example. I have had to turn Time Machine off.
Expect to see t
Note that MacPorts questions already get asked on a web-based forum-like
interface, namely Stack Overflow. But it's yet another place that fragments the
community. I subscribe to the MacPorts mailing lists. If a question comes in
that I know the answer to, I'll answer it. But I don't visit Stack
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 7:27 PM, Ian Wadham wrote:
> From now on I want to use sudo, have a local-port structure that is NOT in
> /opt/local
> and have NO modifications of standard permissions in /opt/local.
>
> But how do I get there, *safely*, from where I am?
>
https://guide.macports.org/#dev
Hi guys,
I am the person who has this problem --- about 3 Gb of stuff in ~/.macports
and a Time Machine that goes berserk, running mtmd [1] at about 90% CPU
during "port clean" for example. I have had to turn Time Machine off.
On 10/02/2015, at 10:47 PM, Clemens Lang wrote:
> - On 10 Feb, 20
On Tuesday February 10 2015 17:45:39 Lawrence Velázquez wrote:
> "Complementary" implies that the items in question reinforce each other in a
> positive manner.
I think they would, but who am I ... =)
> Having both forums and mailing lists would be harmful to the community. We'd
> end up with
On Feb 10, 2015, at 5:24 PM, Lawrence Velázquez wrote:
> On Feb 10, 2015, at 6:02 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
>
>> If by "it" you mean Mailman, then as far as I know, it does nothing to
>> deduplicate your mail. It sends the messages it has been instructed to send.
>> So if a message is addressed
On Feb 10, 2015, at 6:24 PM, Lawrence Velázquez wrote:
> It scans the Cc list for the addresses of list members who don't want dups
> and simply doesn't deliver anything to those addresses.
Ergh. It also scans the "To" header.
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On Feb 10, 2015, at 6:02 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
> If by "it" you mean Mailman, then as far as I know, it does nothing to
> deduplicate your mail. It sends the messages it has been instructed to send.
> So if a message is addressed To a mailing list you're subscribed to, and Cc'd
> to you, the
I do like the idea of a forum or something. Gmail helps with conversation
management, but trying to find conversations from long ago, even with the
archive kinda sucks. Especially for those of us that have mail back when
this was "darwinports"
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> On Feb 10, 2015, at 6:02 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
> If by "it" you mean Mailman, then as far as I know, it does nothing to
> deduplicate your mail.
http://www.list.org/mailman-member/node21.html
> On Feb 10, 2015, at 6:08 PM, Brandon Allbery wrote:
> It's not unique; Cyrus imapd could be conf
not change for 5 weeks to this ticket, just wondering what is next to
progress...
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On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Ryan Schmidt
wrote:
> As far as I know, Gmail is unique in that it deduplicates for you and only
> shows you one copy. I assume it uses the Message-ID to do so.
It's not unique; Cyrus imapd could be configured to do so in early versions
and does it by default in
Feedback was given to fix the patch (namely to remove the revision line). We
like to see corrected follow-up patches. Although ultimately the maintainers
have not responded to the ticket.
Cheers!
Frank
On Feb 10, 2015, at 3:45 PM, John Patrick wrote:
> not change for 5 weeks to this ticket,
On Feb 10, 2015, at 4:34 PM, René J.V. Bertin wrote:
> On Tuesday February 10 2015 16:41:19 Arno Hautala wrote:
>
>> If you're on BCC, Mailman wouldn't be able to do anything about it.
>
> Evidently. Is it clever enough to take various ways of representing the To:
> or CC: addressing into acco
On 10/02/2015 22:29, René J.V. Bertin wrote:
On Tuesday February 10 2015 16:24:30 Lawrence Velázquez wrote:
I personally would not want to have to check Yet Another Source of MacPorts
Discussion. I don't see what benefit a forum would have over our mailing lists.
I see them as complementary.
On Feb 10, 2015, at 5:29 PM, René J.V. Bertin wrote:
> I see them as complementary. Some people prefer mailing lists, others like
> myself prefer to keep their incoming mail as few as possible.
"Complementary" implies that the items in question reinforce each other in a
positive manner.
Havin
not change for 5 weeks to this ticket, just wondering what is next to
progress...
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On Tuesday February 10 2015 16:41:19 Arno Hautala wrote:
> If you're on BCC, Mailman wouldn't be able to do anything about it.
Evidently. Is it clever enough to take various ways of representing the To: or
CC: addressing into account? Basically, does it look at the pure email address,
or does i
On Tuesday February 10 2015 16:24:30 Lawrence Velázquez wrote:
> I personally would not want to have to check Yet Another Source of MacPorts
> Discussion. I don't see what benefit a forum would have over our mailing
> lists.
I see them as complementary. Some people prefer mailing lists, others
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
> I'm pretty sure it's a feature of Gmail that deduplicates your mail. I do not
> use Gmail and I do get duplicate copies of mailing list messages that are
> also Cc'd to me.
As sent by Lawrence:
> http://www.list.org/mailman-member/node21.ht
> On Feb 10, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Arno Hautala wrote:
>
>>> get a duplicate. You and the list are in the To and CC fields with
>>> this message. Did you get it twice?
>>
>> No, not that I can see (= unless gmail hid an additional copy somewhere, but
>> it could also be that gmail consolidated the
On Feb 10, 2015, at 12:43 PM, René J.V. Bertin wrote:
> To kick off the discussion: has a MacPorts forum site ever been taken into
> consideration
Not since I've been paying attention, which has been a few years.
> if so, what were the reasons not to provide one (a summary would be fine)?
I p
On Feb 10, 2015, at 8:01 AM, René J.V. Bertin wrote:
> Would it be possible to give members of the list access to the memberlist
Technically, yes. Mailman allows the list administrators to change the
visibility of the subscribers list.[1]
Practically, there's no need to broaden this visibility
Hi,
I noticed (= became annoyingly aware of the fact) that `port upgrade` does a
deactivate on the current port version before it even starts creating the
archive. Symptoms: while waiting for `port -nvk upgrade --force qt4-mac` to
finish, I got failure messages for starting kio_slave; that's be
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Chris Jones
wrote:
> I for one so no particular reason why anyone would need a list of all list
> members, whatever password protection or mangling you put into place. If
> you want to send someone a mail and not sure if they are are member, just
> cc them as wel
Hi,
I for one so no particular reason why anyone would need a list of all
list members, whatever password protection or mangling you put into
place. If you want to send someone a mail and not sure if they are are
member, just cc them as well and let the system sort the rest out.
I would be v
On Tuesday February 10 2015 12:30:07 Arno Hautala wrote:
> > Not by sending to the list, no. But there's always the option of sending to
> > a hand-picked selection of list members, if there's a reason to limit the
> > audience.
>
> Also something that doesn't require having a public members li
On 10/02/15 17:32, René J.V. Bertin wrote:
On Tuesday February 10 2015 17:10:37 Chris Jones wrote:
1) at least is solvable as you can configure your sudoers list to allow
your main user to run your port command (and that command only) through
sudoers without requiring a password.
I know that,
On Tuesday February 10 2015 17:10:37 Chris Jones wrote:
> 1) at least is solvable as you can configure your sudoers list to allow
> your main user to run your port command (and that command only) through
> sudoers without requiring a password.
I know that, but for some reason I've never managed
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 11:22 AM, René J.V. wrote:
> On Tuesday February 10 2015 10:49:40 Arno Hautala wrote:
>
>>list. There's no way to ensure they *won't* get a message.
>
> Not by sending to the list, no. But there's always the option of sending to a
> hand-picked selection of list members, i
On 10/02/15 15:06, René J.V. Bertin wrote:
On Tuesday February 10 2015 14:42:49 Jeremy Lavergne wrote:
Not sure you can make extended ACLs propagate the right way.
The old school option is creating a common group for both users and have
appropriate umasks.
Yep. That's subject to the same co
On Tuesday February 10 2015 10:49:40 Arno Hautala wrote:
>list. There's no way to ensure they *won't* get a message.
Not by sending to the list, no. But there's always the option of sending to a
hand-picked selection of list members, if there's a reason to limit the
audience.
>Censoring the ad
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 10:23 AM, René J.V. wrote:
>
> I realised later that I should have evoked "knowledge of how many copies a
> given person would get". There are valid situations in which you'd like (or
> should) know if someone is on the list and would thus get a non-zero number
> of copi
On Tuesday February 10 2015 10:05:30 Arno Hautala wrote:
Hi,
>Just CC them. Most mail clients / list servers will consolidate the
>duplicate message and even if it doesn't it's not the worst thing to
I realised later that I should have evoked "knowledge of how many copies a
given person would g
Hi,
- On 10 Feb, 2015, at 13:57, René J.V. Bertin rjvber...@gmail.com wrote:
>> ~/.macports is used instead of /opt/local/var/macports when you run MacPorts
>> in
>> a root installation but without root privileges. As such, MacPorts will put
>
> When `macportsuser root` in macports.conf?
N
On Tuesday February 10 2015 14:42:49 Jeremy Lavergne wrote:
>> Not sure you can make extended ACLs propagate the right way.
>
>The old school option is creating a common group for both users and have
>appropriate umasks.
Yep. That's subject to the same conditions I enumerated in my previous email
Just CC them. Most mail clients / list servers will consolidate the
duplicate message and even if it doesn't it's not the worst thing to
get a duplicate. You and the list are in the To and CC fields with
this message. Did you get it twice?
It's only a mail list, but it feels weird to make that pub
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 9:52 AM, René J.V. wrote:
> On Tuesday February 10 2015 09:37:53 Brandon Allbery wrote:
> >I think someone did have this (try to) happen to them recently-ish. I also
>
> I don't recall having seen this recently-ish issue discussed on a ML - or
> it was about a port that I
On Tuesday February 10 2015 09:37:53 Brandon Allbery wrote:
>I think someone did have this (try to) happen to them recently-ish. I also
I'm not saying it's impossible, but my home directory is mostly a skeleton
anyway, with symlinks to where the important stuff is. As long as ~/Library
isn't to
>> I take it there is no official way to define the permissions mask for a
>> macports user that would allow an admin user full control over content
>> owned by the macports user (but not the reverse)?
>
>
> Not sure you can make extended ACLs propagate the right way.
The old school option is cr
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 9:30 AM, René J.V. wrote:
> On Tuesday February 10 2015, Brandon Allbery wrote regarding "Re:
> ~/.macports"
> >Not supported, not a great idea, not an outright installation-breaking
> >idea. (Among other potential problems, a Portfile bug could nuke your home
> >directory
On Tuesday February 10 2015, Brandon Allbery wrote regarding "Re: ~/.macports"
>Not supported, not a great idea, not an outright installation-breaking
>idea. (Among other potential problems, a Portfile bug could nuke your home
>directory; with a dedicates macports user, it would get a permission e
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 7:57 AM, René J.V. wrote:
> > ~/.macports is used instead of /opt/local/var/macports when you run
> MacPorts in
> > a root installation but without root privileges. As such, MacPorts will
> put
>
> When `macportsuser root` in macports.conf?
>
> I don't know if it's support
Hello,
Would it be possible to give members of the list access to the memberlist,
possibly "mangled" in a way that addresses appear like
rjvbertin@g
or something similarly useful when you already know a person's address and just
want to verify if s/he is subscribed and thus doesn't need to be
On Tuesday February 10 2015 12:47:52 Clemens Lang wrote:
Hi Clemens,
> ~/.macports is used instead of /opt/local/var/macports when you run MacPorts
> in
> a root installation but without root privileges. As such, MacPorts will put
When `macportsuser root` in macports.conf?
I don't know if it's
Hi Ian,
- On 10 Feb, 2015, at 11:37, René J.V. Bertin rjvber...@gmail.com wrote:
> As I said, my ~/.macports on my Mac appears to be unused since november 2013
> or
> so. However, the tiny test install I have on my Linux system does contain a
> lot
> of things that appear to be copies, but
On 10/02/2015, at 9:37 PM, René J.V. Bertin wrote:
> On Tuesday February 10 2015 21:08:18 Ian Wadham wrote:
>
> Hi Ian,
>
> Taking this to macports-dev...
>
> As I said, my ~/.macports on my Mac appears to be unused since november 2013
> or so. However, the tiny test install I have on my Linu
On Tuesday February 10 2015 21:08:18 Ian Wadham wrote:
Hi Ian,
Taking this to macports-dev...
As I said, my ~/.macports on my Mac appears to be unused since november 2013 or
so. However, the tiny test install I have on my Linux system does contain a lot
of things that appear to be copies, but
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