Tell me about it. As I write this I'm headed to buy ten gallons of kerosene to
keep the oil tank from running out till I get my next delivery. $1000 per month
this winter in oil.
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On Mar 2, 2015, at 8:09 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote:
Every morning when I wake up,
Every morning when I wake up, I look out the window to check Dimitri’s chimney.
If his house were a steam locomotive, it’d be moving down the tracks at 90mph!
On Mar 2, 2015, at 6:41 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes
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Oh shut it! :)
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Oh shut it! :)
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On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Should I mention that we had to turn on the AC today?
Guess not
Dan
On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
We had our first real ice storm yesterday. Started as snow then rained
hard with temps. below freezing. Today was a wintry wonderland, but it's
gotten warmer so I was ably to safely commute.
Andrew (DC Area)
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dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote:
Hmm. My house consumed 500 gallons of heating oil in one month with the
thermostat set at 57 degrees.
I just spent $600 to have ice dams removed from my roof but they were so thick
that they are now only 1 foot thick at the eaves.
I'm not liking this winter
I am SO glad that I'm not heating with propane this last month! It was 16F
yesterday morning, and the aux heat strip in the geothermal heat pump did
NOT turn on!
The 400 gallons of propane that I have will be burned in the grill . . .
On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Peter wrote:
One more blast of cold air and
low temps below 10F and I think winter is done.
I hope you're right Peter. Two miserable winters in a row is enough for a few
years...
I'm ready for spring.
That would make at least two of us.
Rick
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Should I mention that we had to turn on the AC today?
Guess not
Dan
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wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2015 19:30:48 -0600 OK Don via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
The 400 gallons of propane that I have will be
On Sun, 1 Mar 2015 19:30:48 -0600 OK Don via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
The 400 gallons of propane that I have will be burned in the grill . . .
Too bad I use charcoal.
My goal was to get the tank under 50 gallons without running out this winter.
December/January were so cold
It was actually above freezing today! One more blast of cold air and
low temps below 10F and I think winter is done.
I'm ready for spring.
Peter
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I spent the weekend installing cold air blockers in outlets on outside
walls and attaching weatherstrip to seal two leaky patio doors. Don't know
why I waited this long...
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I am SO glad that I'm not heating with
On Sun, 1 Mar 2015 19:30:48 -0600 OK Don via Mercedes
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The 400 gallons of propane that I have will be burned in the grill . . .
That's going to take awhile!
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India is very similar as China when it comes to pollution. but both
refuse to engage in limiting activity -
*But if this Global Warming gets any worse, I'm going to freeze to death!!*
LarryT
91 300D
On 2/24/2015 10:06 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
Having traveled to China in the past two
Well, I'm currently experiencing a mix of rain/sleet/snow here in Monroe, East
of Atlanta. Just hope the power doesn't go. Don't mind the snow, but hate the
ice storms.
Best wishes,
Roger
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Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
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The easy way is to blame Obama. That way you don't have to fret about the
differences between weather and climate!
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 2:21 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes
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Well, I'm currently experiencing a mix of rain/sleet/snow here in Monroe,
East of Atlanta.
The easy way is to blame Obama. That way you don't have to fret about
the differences between weather and climate! snip
Who, will of course, advise us with great authority it is Bushes Fault.
Executive privilege went from The buck stops here to Pass the buck in
such a short time.. Why I
I have been listening to the inane commentary on NPR about this pipeline
bidness. It is quite interesting how the opponents have managed to turn
the discussion around aspects that are either 1) wrong, 2) irrelevant,
3) conflated, 4) partially true, 5) idiotic, 6) ignoring certain other
On 2/25/2015 5:09 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
I have been listening to the inane commentary on NPR about this
pipeline bidness. It is quite interesting how the opponents have
managed to turn the discussion around aspects that are either 1)
wrong, 2) irrelevant, 3) conflated, 4)
Now you're talking!
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:24 PM, David Kristin Gilmore via Mercedes
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On 2/25/2015 5:09 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
I have been listening to the inane commentary on NPR about this pipeline
bidness. It is quite interesting how the
Which leads to my favorite solution - less people. We need more
incentives for people to have fewer children.
Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV
They've all moved away said the voice of a stranger
We have people working on that. Just recently they eliminated 21
deniers whom they
The easy way is to blame Obama. That way you don't have to fret about the
differences between weather and climate!
Andrew,
I'm retired now so I don't care about the difference between weather and
climate, as long as the power stays on and I don't have a tornado. As to
blaming
To my hearing NPR was biased in favor of the pipeline. They tossed
softball questions when interviewing the visiting Alberta premier or
whatever you call him.
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
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I have been listening to the inane commentary
: Re: [MBZ] OT Global warming (aka climate change), linked to
frigid
winter
On 23/02/2015 4:49 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote:
Hmm. My house consumed 500 gallons of heating oil in one month with the
thermostat set at 57 degrees.
I just spent $600 to have ice dams removed from my roof
the chloroflorocarbons were eating the ozone over the penguins. If we had not
stopped with the hair spray and freon, we would never have been able to watch
all these disturbing penguin movies.
clay
On Feb 23, 2015, at 9:23 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
40 years ago we had to give
There is always something to do rather than make wise comments about
science or evidence. Doing things is rather inexpensive compared to
the vast sums of tax that legislation squanders. Squander is reality.
The rest of the hub-bub is hot air. We can live with less. We can do
more. There is an
I can take a short drive across the border to Mexico and buy all the R12 I
want.. Gallons or pounds of it.. I guess R12 doesn't cause global warming
in Mexico?
With a license [available via testing online, BTW.] I can purchase R12 at
the local Air Conditioning supply store [hey, it's Phoenix, AC
Curly wrote:
40 years ago we had to give up R-12 because of global cooling.
Now that we have global warming, why can't we use R-12 again?
Seems like it would counteract global warming.
Gerry
That too was a hoax. We had to abandon r-12 because the dupont
patent was expiring. They had
Curly wrote:
40 years ago we had to give up R-12 because of global cooling.
Now that we have global warming, why can't we use R-12 again?
Seems like it would counteract global warming.
Gerry
That too was a hoax. We had to abandon r-12 because the dupont
patent was expiring.
Curly wrote:
40 years ago we had to give up R-12 because of global cooling.
Now that we have global warming, why can't we use R-12 again?
Seems like it would counteract global warming.
Gerry
That too was a hoax. We had to abandon r-12 because the dupont
patent was expiring.
Oh, the joys of conspiracy theories! So much more comforting than dealing
with truth.
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 1:03 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
40 years ago we had to give up R-12 because of global cooling.
Now that we have global warming, why can't we use R-12
On 23/02/2015 11:09 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Well.. it seems my questions and suggestions may have touched a nerve or
two... good.
Some are stimulated to spew.. others are stimulated to do.. you decide.
As for myself, I see indication the numbers were skewed, information was
I don't know what to think. The truth is that my part of the world is getting
colder, not warmer. It is my understanding that warming is responsible for the
climate change as we now call it. Problem is that I don't see any warming but
polar ice caps are melting so how is that explained? And our
Even if the global warmers are correct, and the solution is a massive worldwide
decline in the use of fossil fuels; how is anyone going to stop China and 100+
nations from using fossil fuels and/or stopping practices that increase CO2?
Is China going to stop using coal, a major source of
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:08 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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snipI guess R12 doesn't cause global warming
in Mexico?
R-12 has nothing to do with global warming. It destroys the ozone layer,
letting more of the harmful UV rays reach the surface. The hole over
Antarctica
Having traveled to China in the past two year, I can say without hesitation
it is one of the most polluted places ever on the face of the earth.
We in America pay through the nose to have our cars inspected each year,
and through the nose for ever tighter EPA regulations, while the cloud of
Having traveled to China in the past two year, I can say without hesitation
it is one of the most polluted places ever on the face of the earth.
We in America pay through the nose to have our cars inspected each year,
and through the nose for ever tighter EPA regulations, while the cloud of
Climate change may be to blame for frigid NortheastPublished: Monday,
February 23, 2015
Biting winds and frigid temperatures terrorizing the Northeast can be
linked to climate change, according to scientists at Rutgers and Wisconsin
universities.
Researchers found that since the 1990s, the North
I do not recall the technical details but an article in the paper here
on the weekend suggests that the issue is one of the sun going through a
cooler cycle.
It suggests that the winter that you folks have been suffering through
may become a normal thing for the next 30 years or so as the
I'm not seeing anything warm on this globe.
Climate change I am seeing but how can it be attributed to warming if things
are getting colder- much colder.
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On Feb 23, 2015, at 5:06 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
I do not recall the
Climate change may be to blame for frigid NortheastPublished: Monday,
February 23, 2015
Hoya!
And butter will kill you
and coffee will kill you
and so it goes.
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Global warming (aka climate change), linked to frigid
winter
I do not recall the technical details but an article in the paper here
on the weekend suggests that the issue is one of the sun going through a
cooler cycle
So, I posed this question to our guides in Patagonia in the Torres del
Paine park in Chile. The mountains there are 4000ish feet high which is
more than a kilometer, call it 1.5km. They told us the mountains were
under a km of ice, so that makes that the ice was 2.5ish km thick (above
through the woods. Some of the gates
are only 11' wide...
-Curt
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On 23/02/2015 4:18 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Climate change may be to blame for frigid NortheastPublished: Monday,
February 23, 2015
Hoya!
And butter will kill you
and coffee will kill you
and so it goes.
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Your point is... ?
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes
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Climate change may be to blame for frigid NortheastPublished: Monday,
February 23, 2015
Hoya!
And butter will kill you
and coffee will kill you
and so it goes.
And proof of God's love.
-Curt
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Global warming (aka climate change), linked to frigid
R-12 was banned due to the destruction of the ozone layer, which is in
much better shape now that it was 20 years ago. No recent stories of
pigs in Australia with skin cancers on their ears.
There was no global cooling, and as far as I remember, no one I was
around in those days paid any
40 years ago we had to give up R-12 because of global cooling.
Now that we have global warming, why can't we use R-12 again?
Seems like it would counteract global warming.
Gerry
That too was a hoax. We had to abandon r-12 because the dupont
patent was expiring. They had the best pols money
Craig:
I also have a PhD, I'm not an ignorant yahoo from under a rock.
Over the four decades I've been paying attention to this subject,
I've had the opportunity to work with people directly involved in
the discussion at several universities and Forestry Canada, where I
did a Post-Doc. I
--R wrote:
...but it certainly was not anthropogenic.
Were you there?
Did you witness lack of anthropogenic?
We really have propensity to jump to conclusions.
mao
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Or.. perhaps it could have been to cover the tactical error of cooking the
books and outright lying about the scientific findings which kept them in
grant money for more than a decade.. perhaps...
The question comes could a grant be made to do the calculation of
actual cost result of the
There has been indeed a great deal of money spent and fake data
generated in the climate debate, but it's all from the fossil fuel
industry aimed at convincing the general public that climate change
is a hoax.
Peter, I respect you very much but this paragraph is dead wrong.
Read the
40 years ago we had to give up R-12 because of global cooling.
Now that we have global warming, why can't we use R-12 again?
Seems like it would counteract global warming.
Gerry
Rich Thomas wrote:
So, I posed this question to our guides in Patagonia in the Torres del
Paine park in Chile. The
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Global warming (aka climate change), linked to
frigid
winter
I'm not seeing anything warm on this globe.
Climate change I am seeing but how can it be attributed to warming if
things
are getting colder- much colder.
Sent from my iPhone
Well.. it seems my questions and suggestions may have touched a nerve or
two... good.
Some are stimulated to spew.. others are stimulated to do.. you decide.
As for myself, I see indication the numbers were skewed, information was
spewed, and we were screwed.. Further, I see indications that
Randy wrote:
But BEER is good for you.
What is the trio of lines about beer?
I drink beer so that...
When beer does...
Therefore beer is...
Someone?
mao
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Tell me why the term global warming went into disfavor? In it's place, some
climatologists now use the term climate change. Why?
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On Feb 23, 2015, at 7:22 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
--R wrote:
...but it certainly was not anthropogenic.
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 20:30:28 -0600 Peter Frederick via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
None of the anti climate change people are climatologists, and the
vast majority of them do not have any real qualifications in science.
They do produce very high quality deliverables for their
Craig:
I also have a PhD, I'm not an ignorant yahoo from under a rock.
Over the four decades I've been paying attention to this subject, I've
had the opportunity to work with people directly involved in the
discussion at several universities and Forestry Canada, where I did a
Post-Doc.
Was it because the warming trend stopped about 15 years ago, so in order to
keep the grant money flowing they had to come up with something new?
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
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On February 23, 2015 7:27:48 PM EST, dseretakis--- via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Tell me
Tell me why the term global warming went into disfavor? In it's
place, some climatologists now use the term climate change. Why?
Sent from my iPhone
Most people caught on that no global warming is happening. Aside
from the major prehistoric climate shifts, the solar cycles, and
therefore
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 17:49:37 -0500 dseretakis--- via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
I'm not liking this winter and I'm furthermore starting to believe that
global warming is one big giant hoax.
It is, and a very lucrative one for those who want to control you and for
those who want to
There has been indeed a great deal of money spent and fake data
generated in the climate debate, but it's all from the fossil fuel
industry aimed at convincing the general public that climate change is
a hoax.
None of the anti climate change people are climatologists, and the
vast
Well.. it seems my questions and suggestions may have touched a nerve or
two... good.
Some are stimulated to spew.. others are stimulated to do.. you decide.
As for myself, I see indication the numbers were skewed, information was
spewed, and we were screwed.. Further, I see indications that bad
Well.. it seems my questions and suggestions may have touched a nerve or
two... good.
Some are stimulated to spew.. others are stimulated to do.. you decide.
As for myself, I see indication the numbers were skewed, information was
spewed, and we were screwed.. Further, I see indications that
dseretakis wrote:
Climate change I am seeing but how can it be attributed to warming if things
are getting colder- much colder.
Becuz...
We are pumping out all the good fuel used to warm the climate.
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On 23/02/2015 4:49 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote:
Hmm. My house consumed 500 gallons of heating oil in one month with the
thermostat set at 57 degrees.
I just spent $600 to have ice dams removed from my roof but they were so thick
that they are now only 1 foot thick at the eaves.
I'm
The volcanos were mentioned in the article I mentioned earlier about
cool periods of time. There is evidence of earlier periods when the sun
cooled for a time and one of those coincides with a period when there
were some massive eruptions too and that cooled things even more.
I shall see if
I have one and it's great!
Dan basking in 70s with open doors/windows
On Feb 23, 2015, at 6:12 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
On 23/02/2015 4:49 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote:
Hmm. My house consumed 500 gallons of heating oil in one month with the
I was never a big fan of Florida, but after visiting Amelia Island concours
D'elegance last spring, and getting subjected to this bullshit winter, I'm
starting to like it.
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 23, 2015, at 6:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:
I have one and
The part of Florida I live in (Tampa) is amazingly temperate considering the
climate. From October to April our daytime temperatures are typically in the
law 70s with low humidity. From May through September it's hot, topping out in
the low 90s with moderate humidity.
One of the things
to be, anyway?
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT global warming
Global warming is real
I don't know about all the current scientific data in relation to global
warming. When I was young and in school, we were taught that the earth was
still coming out of the last ice age which meant it was getting warmer, little
by little, and would continue until the earth cycled back into it's
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT global warming
Global warming is real, scientifically proven, and quite scary when you
think about it (especially if you have kids). Political hyperbole - no
matter how comforting to believe - won't make
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204452104577059830626002226.html?mod=most_emailed_week
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--R
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I won't believe either of the warming or cooling farces until either
Greenland is once again all green, or glaciers cover the middle USA from
Kansas north. The earth was designed to manage its own climate and is
doing fine.
Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL
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Unfortunately nations and people are not so well designed nor resilient.
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote:
I won't believe either of the warming or cooling farces until either
Greenland is once again all green, or glaciers cover the middle USA from
The earth will self-adjust, by wiping most of us off --- but it's fun while
it lasts!
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:48 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote:
Unfortunately nations and people are not so well designed nor resilient.
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Benz Hogs
Rick wrote:
I think George puts it pretty well here.
Caveat: some vulgarity.
George Carlin has a knack for putting good sense to issues.
Thanks.
mao
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It seems that it is impossible to arrive at any consensus about
warmist concepts.
But, it seems that it is something we can each affect ourselves, no?
Why not live with less.
Why not live with positive footprint on the planet.
Why argue so much about science so called and rather speak to each
Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:
Even when mankind is not responsible for the changing climate, like
they
never have been for eons, including the Medieval Warm Period when it
was
much warmer than it is today.
Amen. Global warming is simply the current scare tactic of the left.
--
Max
They revised it to climate change to account for when it snows in
September or etc. Broadens the scope and allows more rigged research...
Walt, who believes ma nature should stop spouting evil greenhouse gasses
from natural volcanos and such...
On Nov 30, 2011 1:19 PM, Max
Global warming is real, scientifically proven, and quite scary when you
think about it (especially if you have kids). Political hyperbole - no
matter how comforting to believe - won't make it go away.
P.S. I thought poitics was off limits.
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Max
Not saying it doesn't exist.
Just that it's not as bad we caused it, we're evil! Oh, fund my research
and give me political power as some people want.
Walt
On Nov 30, 2011 2:43 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
Global warming is real, scientifically proven, and quite scary
andrew strasfogel wrote:
Global warming is real, scientifically proven,
Pre-industrial climate change is also well proven.
But Man-made global warming is not.
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According to a vast majority of experts it is proven, beyond a doubt.
And besides, even if not proven what's the harm of trying to avert a
climate catastrophe by doing things within our control, such as
transitioning to a less carbon-instensive economy (with an exemption for
driving diesel cars,
I think it's the natural cycle of our planet. I don't think that anything we do
will make one bit of a difference.
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On Nov 30, 2011, at 3:56 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
According to a vast majority of experts it is proven, beyond a doubt.
And besides,
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT global warming
I think it's the natural cycle of our planet. I don't think that anything we do
will make one bit of a difference.
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On Nov 30, 2011, at 3:56 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
According to a vast majority
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I think
I recall back in the 70s this guy Paul Ehrlich
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_R._Ehrlich was on Johnny Carson all
the time, scaring everyone that we were all going to starve and freeze
in the dark because of 1) too many people, 2) not enough food, and 3)
global cooling due to pollution and
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I think it's the natural cycle of our planet. I don't think that anything
we do will make one bit of a difference.
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT global warming
I think it's the natural cycle of our planet. I don't think that anything
we do will make one bit of a difference.
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On Nov 30, 2011, at 3:56 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
wrote:
According to a vast
Rich Thomas wrote:
I recall back in the 70s this guy Paul Ehrlich
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_R._Ehrlich was on Johnny Carson all
the time, scaring everyone that we were all going to starve and freeze
in the dark because of 1) too many people, 2) not enough food, and 3)
global cooling
The problem I have with the solutions is that all require more government, less
liberty, and the exposed distortions and financial motivations of the experts
(and the vicious manner by which they put down all dissent) lead me to conclude
that I can't believe them.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
Global warming is real, scientifically proven, and quite scary when you
think about it (especially if you have kids). Political hyperbole - no
matter how comforting to believe - won't make it go away.
And here I thought global warming WAS
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According to a vast majority of experts it is proven, beyond a doubt.
And besides, even if not proven what's
Andrew wrote:
And besides, even if not proven what's the harm of trying to avert a
climate catastrophe by doing things within our control, such as
transitioning to a less carbon-instensive economy (with an exemption for
driving diesel cars, of course).
Ain't ever gonna get any traction on
Max wrote:
The problem I have with the solutions is that all require more government,
less liberty, and the exposed distortions and financial motivations of the
experts (and the vicious manner by which they put down all dissent) lead me
to conclude that I can't believe them.
Here, here.
Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:
Even when mankind is not responsible for the changing climate, like
they
never have been for eons, including the Medieval Warm Period when it
was
much warmer than it is today.
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Re: Global warming much less serious than
On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 14:43:17 -0500 andrew strasfogel
astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
Global warming is real, scientifically proven, and quite scary when you
think about it (especially if you have kids). Political hyperbole - no
matter how comforting to believe - won't make it go away.
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