RE: 2011-10-12 PPMC Status: Bringing Initial Committers On-Board

2011-10-14 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
No problem. It was expect to happen by now. I've been lazy about it while tending to other things. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Shane Curcuru [mailto:a...@shanecurcuru.org] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 17:24 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: 2011-10-12 PPMC Status:

Re: 2011-10-12 PPMC Status: Bringing Initial Committers On-Board

2011-10-14 Thread Shane Curcuru
It's now been 4 months. I'd suggest that it's time to remove initial committer names of those folks who have never really participated in the project, and/or who haven't signed an iCLA. They're always welcome to show up later, show merit like everyone else who has been working hard on the pro

Re: We're on slashdot!

2011-10-14 Thread Shane Curcuru
And I'm on El Reg! http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/14/apache_openoffice_alive_well/ Hope I did OK in the interview. At least I got a good closing quote, even if it was a little tweaked in the story. - Shane On 10/14/2011 11:45 AM, Shane Curcuru wrote: Oh, my what an... extraordinarily

RE: 2011-10-12 PPMC Status: Bringing Initial Committers On-Board

2011-10-14 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
It has since been confirmed that there are still 55 members on the PPMC. I mistook a change in preferred e-mail to be an exit from the PPMC. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:11 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apach

[REVIEW] Staged Migration of OO.o domain properties (long)

2011-10-14 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I've been pondering what it takes to choreograph migration of the live OpenOffice.org properties into Apache custodianship. Instead of shoe-horning something on the Community Wiki, I want to rehearse some ideas here: 1. Basic Idea of OpenOffice.org Properties 2. Stages of Property Mig

Re: How start to build AOOo on WinXP

2011-10-14 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hello Regina, nice to see you here :) On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 09:56:09PM +0200, Regina Henschel wrote: > Hi all, > > I have download the source via 'svn co > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/trunk' working with svn is a pain once you are used to Mercurial or Git. Besides, it takes

Re: [DISCUSS] Publishing the PPMC Roster

2011-10-14 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > I think this is a wonderful idea and I would like to add an additional item > -- can we get a list of folks who have submitted iCLAs toward this project, > assuming they've filled in the "notify project" item? > > Another great mystery that migh

Re: Bugzilla notifications not going to an ASF mailing list

2011-10-14 Thread Mark Thomas
On 14/10/2011 18:34, Dave Fisher wrote: > Hi Mark, > > Thanks. I believe that the podling PPMC needs to make sure there are people > who are able to be sysadmins. Agreed. A quick glance at the lists below suggests that quite a few additional admins are required. Option 1: Identify a few folks t

Re: [DISCUSS] Publishing the PPMC Roster

2011-10-14 Thread Kay Schenk
I think this is a wonderful idea and I would like to add an additional item -- can we get a list of folks who have submitted iCLAs toward this project, assuming they've filled in the "notify project" item? Another great mystery that might be nice to have unveiled. and yep, I tried to get a lis

Re: Is there an org chart of the previous OOo governance(s)?

2011-10-14 Thread Kay Schenk
On 10/13/2011 06:49 AM, Shane Curcuru wrote: On 10/13/2011 9:18 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: ... Juergen Schmidt may be able to provide more insight here when he can catch up to the list as he was a member of the CC. i don't really want to comment on this because of my history. The general ide

Re: Bugzilla notifications not going to an ASF mailing list

2011-10-14 Thread Mark Thomas
On 14/10/2011 17:15, Mark Thomas wrote: > Folks, > > The infrastructure team has noticed that Bugzilla updates from the OOo > instance are not being sent to any ASF mailing lists. AS part of the "if > it didn't happen on the mailing list it didn't happen" this needs to be > rectified quickly. > >

Re: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-14 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 14, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > TDF Liaison. Dedicated to the special relationship between AOOo and LO. > (Would we have other special relationships?) > A TDF Liaison could help AOOo be translating all press and marketing material into German. By providing our own transla

Legacy OOo SVN

2011-10-14 Thread Rob Weir
I want to make sure we're not duplicating effort here. I've been working with Pedro to take the legacy OOo SVN repository (pre Hg) and get it onto Apache-Extras. I'm doing this via svnsync, a slow process, but it will preserve the revision history. It should be done in a few more days. We shoul

Re: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-14 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 14, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >> Rob, >> >> I find this response ironic as I was only following your suggestion to make >> this discussion more visible. After two days I felt that someone should do >> it,. >> > > The discu

Re: How start to build AOOo on WinXP

2011-10-14 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Fri, 10/14/11, Regina Henschel wrote: > From: Regina Henschel > Subject: Re: How start to build AOOo on WinXP > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Date: Friday, October 14, 2011, 4:17 PM > Hi Pedro, > > Pedro Giffuni schrieb: > > Hi; > > > > That has changed for everyone.. and has to

Re: How start to build AOOo on WinXP

2011-10-14 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Pedro, Pedro Giffuni schrieb: Hi; That has changed for everyone.. and has to be updated in the guides. You need GNU autoconf : it generates the "configure" script. That is not clear to me. For OOo I had used ./configure \ --with-directx-home="/cygdrive/c/Programme/Microsoft DirectX SDK

Re: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-14 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > Rob, > > I find this response ironic as I was only following your suggestion to make > this discussion more visible. After two days I felt that someone should do > it,. > The discussion was more than about marketing, right? I'm just saying

Re: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-14 Thread Dave Fisher
Rob, I find this response ironic as I was only following your suggestion to make this discussion more visible. After two days I felt that someone should do it,. It's the weekend have a good one and let's discusses teams and roles with other's input. Regards, Dave On Oct 14, 2011, at 1:41 PM,

Re: How start to build AOOo on WinXP

2011-10-14 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; That has changed for everyone.. and has to be updated in the guides. You need GNU autoconf : it generates the "configure" script. cheers, Pedro. --- On Fri, 10/14/11, Regina Henschel wrote: > > I know that guide, but 'configure' mentioned there, does > not exist. > > $ ./configure --he

Re: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-14 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > The real point to this discussion is that the AOOo podling PPC needs a clear > Marketing Team. > If I may make an observation: the people doing the majority of the code commits are really not active in the marketing/press/brand threads. And

Re: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-14 Thread Dave Fisher
The real point to this discussion is that the AOOo podling PPC needs a clear Marketing Team. On Oct 14, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >> While discussing this month's PPMC Board Report we discussed making >> volunteers from the PPMC res

Re: How start to build AOOo on WinXP

2011-10-14 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Pedro, Pedro Giffuni schrieb: --- On Fri, 10/14/11, Regina Henschel wrote: ... Hi all, I have download the source via 'svn co https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/trunk' But now I don't know how to start. There is neither a 'configure' nor a 'autogen.sh'. I had build OOo-DEV300

[blog] Looking for security-related questions for interview with Apache security expert

2011-10-14 Thread Rob Weir
I'm working on a future post for the AOOo project blog. The topic is generally about security at Apache and the process of responding to reports of security vulnerabilities, best practices, etc.. I'd like to provide information about the "how" but also the "why" about how we do things the way we d

Re: How start to build AOOo on WinXP

2011-10-14 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Fri, 10/14/11, Regina Henschel wrote: ... > Hi all, > > I have download the source via 'svn co > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/trunk' > But now I don't know how to start. There is neither a > 'configure' nor a 'autogen.sh'. > > I had build OOo-DEV300m106. I'm working wit

Re: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-14 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > While discussing this month's PPMC Board Report we discussed making > volunteers from the PPMC responsible for certain roles. We quickly proceeded > with a Press Liaison due to the immediate need. Before settling on a larger > set of roles l

How start to build AOOo on WinXP

2011-10-14 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi all, I have download the source via 'svn co https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/trunk' But now I don't know how to start. There is neither a 'configure' nor a 'autogen.sh'. I had build OOo-DEV300m106. I'm working with MSVC 2008 Express on WinXP. Kind regards Regina

Re: ICC generated profiles are copylefted (was Re: A systematic approach to IP review?)

2011-10-14 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > Hi; > > When I saw this thread about machine-generate files, I never > imagined we would be taking about code in OpenOffice.org but > I found that this file: > icc/source/create_sRGB_profile/create_sRGB_profile.cpp > > indeed generates viral

Re: Foundation blog posting on Apache OOo

2011-10-14 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > The question that Simon is asking is simple.  Some have read the "best > wishes to TDF and LibreOffice" as being sarcastic and mean spirited.  I > certainly didn't read it that way.  The issue seems to be that the paragraph > expressing thi

ICC generated profiles are copylefted (was Re: A systematic approach to IP review?)

2011-10-14 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; When I saw this thread about machine-generate files, I never imagined we would be taking about code in OpenOffice.org but I found that this file: icc/source/create_sRGB_profile/create_sRGB_profile.cpp indeed generates viral licensed code! I am proposing an obvious patch but I wanted the issu

[DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-14 Thread Dave Fisher
While discussing this month's PPMC Board Report we discussed making volunteers from the PPMC responsible for certain roles. We quickly proceeded with a Press Liaison due to the immediate need. Before settling on a larger set of roles let's have a discussion and come to a consensus. Types of rol

Re: Foundation blog posting on Apache OOo

2011-10-14 Thread Sally Khudairi
Sorry to interject as Jim's on this, but I wanted to address one thing: >The question that Simon is asking is simple.  Some have read the "best wishes >to TDF and LibreOffice" as being sarcastic and mean spirited.  I certainly >didn't read it that way.  The issue seems to be that the paragraph e

Re: Foundation blog posting on Apache OOo

2011-10-14 Thread Shane Curcuru
I can't speak for Jim, but I can say that the spirit of "best wishes to the TDF and LibreOffice" is honest and sincere from my point of view. I also believe it's sincere from the point of view of the Apache OpenOffice podling - there have been multiple offers to try to work together and explic

Re: Foundation blog posting on Apache OOo

2011-10-14 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Oct 14, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > On Oct 14, 2011 7:28 PM, "Jim Jagielski" wrote: > > > > My only wish is that we had someone at the conference who > > was supportive of the ASF and the AOOo podling in this > > matter who was able to explain this in a positive light… > > Well,

Re: We're on slashdot!

2011-10-14 Thread Simon Phipps
On Oct 14, 2011 7:26 PM, "Danese Cooper" wrote: > It probably isn't a coincidence that LibreOffice Con is this weekend and "we're the > real deal" messaging is coming from LO and TOOo is concerned about dilution > of the OOo brand... We've not seen any messaging like that here in Paris; in fact,

Re: Foundation blog posting on Apache OOo

2011-10-14 Thread Simon Phipps
On Oct 14, 2011 7:28 PM, "Jim Jagielski" wrote: > > My only wish is that we had someone at the conference who > was supportive of the ASF and the AOOo podling in this > matter who was able to explain this in a positive light… Well, Doug Heintzman and I are sitting together here and both willing t

Re: [PROPOSAL]Apache OpenOffice.org Meetup @ApacheCon

2011-10-14 Thread Donald Harbison
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > Hi Dennis, > > I plan to arrive @ApacheCon on Monday. On Tuesday I am planning to sit in > the conference area and hack on the openoffice.org website and other > issues. > > Regards, > Dave > > On Oct 14, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton w

Re: Bugzilla notifications not going to an ASF mailing list

2011-10-14 Thread Marcus (OOo)
If possible I would like to volunteer as bugzilla sysadmin, e.g., to upgrade user accounts with more permission, like it's the currenty case with Pedro. Marcus Am 10/14/2011 07:34 PM, schrieb Dave Fisher: Hi Mark, Thanks. I believe that the podling PPMC needs to make sure there are people

Re: Can we close the old mercury servers?

2011-10-14 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > On Oct 14, 2011, at 10:16 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: >>> >>> On Oct 14, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > One of th

Re: Bugzilla notifications not going to an ASF mailing list

2011-10-14 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Mark, Thanks. I believe that the podling PPMC needs to make sure there are people who are able to be sysadmins. Is it possible for you to identify who currently has a sysadmin role in the AOOo BZ. Send it to ooo-private if you prefer. Regards, Dave On Oct 14, 2011, at 9:15 AM, Mark Thomas

Re: [PROPOSAL]Apache OpenOffice.org Meetup @ApacheCon

2011-10-14 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Dennis, I plan to arrive @ApacheCon on Monday. On Tuesday I am planning to sit in the conference area and hack on the openoffice.org website and other issues. Regards, Dave On Oct 14, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Thanks, Shane. I was planning a day trip specifically for th

Re: Foundation blog posting on Apache OOo

2011-10-14 Thread Jim Jagielski
My only wish is that we had someone at the conference who was supportive of the ASF and the AOOo podling in this matter who was able to explain this in a positive light… I've encouraged Charles Schulz of the TDF to reach out to me, directly, should that not be clear and to emphasize both the ASF's

Re: We're on slashdot!

2011-10-14 Thread Danese Cooper
On Oct 14, 2011, at 1:04 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton > wrote: >> I've read through the German materials at the site and, while Google >> Translator does stumble, the gist of it is pretty clear. This has all the >> appearance of an over-th

Re: Foundation blog posting on Apache OOo

2011-10-14 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Oct 14, 2011, at 1:18 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > On Oct 14, 2011 7:12 PM, "Jim Jagielski" wrote: > >> The intent is address anyone and everyone who is creating the FUD. >> >> Was the Team OpenOffice PR the straw the broke the camel's back? >> Pretty much, yeah. Are they the only "guilty" par

Re: Can we close the old mercury servers?

2011-10-14 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 14, 2011, at 10:16 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: >> >> On Oct 14, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Ross Gardler >>> wrote: One of the comments on the Foundation blog is: "Unless I'm m

Re: How about a new branch for the legal changes? (was Re: A systematic approach to IP review?)

2011-10-14 Thread Andrew Rist
On 10/14/2011 8:58 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: --- On Fri, 10/14/11, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: ... A branch would save us from having say... 1000 commits with header changes in the history. Apache uses version control as the canonical record. It's therefore essential to know why a header was

Re: We're on slashdot!

2011-10-14 Thread Donald Whytock
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > On Oct 14, 2011 7:04 PM, "Donald Whytock" wrote: >> Is it even four guys?  They list five title-related email addresses >> and give the same phone number five times.  If I didn't know Team OO >> existed before now I'd wonder if someone had ju

Re: Foundation blog posting on Apache OOo

2011-10-14 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Oct 14, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > On Oct 14, 2011 7:07 PM, "Dennis E. Hamilton" > wrote: > >> My unsolicited advice: >> >> There are several topics in the single announcement from ASF. My >> recommendation is to read the paragraph that mentions TDF as independent > of >> the

Re: Foundation blog posting on Apache OOo

2011-10-14 Thread Simon Phipps
On Oct 14, 2011 7:12 PM, "Jim Jagielski" wrote: > The intent is address anyone and everyone who is creating the FUD. > > Was the Team OpenOffice PR the straw the broke the camel's back? > Pretty much, yeah. Are they the only "guilty" party? Hardly. > Are we pointing fingers at who are? Nope, they

Re: Can we close the old mercury servers?

2011-10-14 Thread Andrew Rist
On 10/14/2011 8:49 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: One of the comments on the Foundation blog is: "Unless I'm mistaken, nothing has happened in the last 6 months: http://hg.services.openoffice.org/DEV300"; It is perfectly understandable why someone

Re: Foundation blog posting on Apache OOo

2011-10-14 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 14, 2011, at 9:17 AM, Donald Harbison wrote: > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: > >> There are already comments that require response. >> >> Don H? Shane? >> >> > Links please. There's alot, so I'm interested to see which ones you feel are > priority. I was referr

Re: We're on slashdot!

2011-10-14 Thread Simon Phipps
On Oct 14, 2011 7:04 PM, "Donald Whytock" wrote: > Is it even four guys? They list five title-related email addresses > and give the same phone number five times. If I didn't know Team OO > existed before now I'd wonder if someone had just built a site from > random images. Many of us know the

Re: Can we close the old mercury servers?

2011-10-14 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > On Oct 14, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Ross Gardler >> wrote: >>> One of the comments on the Foundation blog is: >>> >>> "Unless I'm mistaken, nothing has happened in the last 6 months: >>> http:

Re: Foundation blog posting on Apache OOo

2011-10-14 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Oct 14, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > On Oct 14, 2011 6:22 PM, "Jim Jagielski" wrote: > > > > If LibreOffice, as an entity, or people "behind" or "involved" > > with LO are guilty of the above, then of course the PR applies > > to them. If innocent, then of course it does not. > >

RE: Foundation blog posting on Apache OOo

2011-10-14 Thread Simon Phipps
On Oct 14, 2011 7:07 PM, "Dennis E. Hamilton" wrote: > My unsolicited advice: > > There are several topics in the single announcement from ASF. My > recommendation is to read the paragraph that mentions TDF as independent of > the other material. From here, it looked like an olive branch. It's

RE: We're on slashdot!

2011-10-14 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Here is "the team" in Team OpenOffice.org: - Dennis E. Hamilton tools for document interoperability, dennis.hamil...@acm.org gsm: +1-206-779-9430 @orcmid -Original Message- From: Donald Whytock [mailto:dwhyt

RE: Foundation blog posting on Apache OOo

2011-10-14 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Simon, My unsolicited advice: There are several topics in the single announcement from ASF. My recommendation is to read the paragraph that mentions TDF as independent of the other material. From here, it looked like an olive branch. It's unfortunate that it looks like a barbed spear to som

Re: We're on slashdot!

2011-10-14 Thread Donald Whytock
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > I've read through the German materials at the site and, while Google > Translator does stumble, the gist of it is pretty clear.  This has all the > appearance of an over-the-top plea to fund 4 guys to save OpenOffice.org from > death

RE: We're on slashdot!

2011-10-14 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Well, the demonstration of initial confusion in the Team OpenOffice.org approach is certainly clear. The teamopenoffice press release is assumed to be "from" OpenOffice.org in the Slashdot lede. (To help with that, apparently Team OO.o holds an OO.o trademark or claimed to at one point.) I've

RE: [PROPOSAL]Apache OpenOffice.org Meetup @ApacheCon

2011-10-14 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Thanks, Shane. I was planning a day trip specifically for the meetup, but I can't do that for an evening meeting. That is the kind of information I needed. Still, the meetup invitation is on the Apache announcement and there is no information to be found using the link given at the bottom of

Re: Foundation blog posting on Apache OOo

2011-10-14 Thread Simon Phipps
On Oct 14, 2011 6:22 PM, "Jim Jagielski" wrote: > > If LibreOffice, as an entity, or people "behind" or "involved" > with LO are guilty of the above, then of course the PR applies > to them. If innocent, then of course it does not. I'm not sure that response is going to create much goodwill if I

Re: Wanting

2011-10-14 Thread Kay Schenk
Aaron-- You might want to take a look at: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/User+Guides On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Aaron Steen wrote: > to register and write documentation. > > -- > Aaron Steen > Staff Writer, Goblin > Editor, Arcade Fire News

Re: We're on slashdot!

2011-10-14 Thread Kay Schenk
Well I'd have to write a book to respond to SO many "interesting" ideas, so I guess I'll remain mum. The truth is out there...well several interpretations of it anyway. The press release that came out today was very good by the way. On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Shane Curcuru wrote: > Oh, m

Re: [PROPOSAL]Apache OpenOffice.org Meetup @ApacheCon

2011-10-14 Thread Shane Curcuru
Specific times/locations for individual meetups are scheduled by the conference organizers, often closer to the actual event itself. It will be Tues, Wed, or Thu night starting at 8pm, at the main ApacheCon show area. You can see the planning process for meetups happening here: http://wiki.ap

Re: Hosting OpenGrok?

2011-10-14 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Someone asked this a couple of weeks ago, IIRC the answer was (a) need to evaluate this, (b) viewvc (which is already installed) has a search feature, whether it would be sufficient. Rob Weir wrote on Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 18:58:27 -0400: > The legacy OpenOffice.org project had an instance [1] of a

RE: [PROPOSAL]Apache OpenOffice.org Meetup @ApacheCon

2011-10-14 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Hi Don, The Apache News item on OpenOffice.org, , invites people come to the meetup at ApacheCon. However, the meetup page, on the main conference web is empty. Is th

Re: Foundation blog posting on Apache OOo

2011-10-14 Thread Jim Jagielski
As the PR states, there is a lot of FUD floating around from *many* people and orgs that OpenOffice is dead, that the Open Office podling has failed, that to keep Open Office "alive" people must cough up money to help make that happen, etc… Whereas it is in the self-interest of those entities to c

Re: Foundation blog posting on Apache OOo

2011-10-14 Thread Donald Harbison
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: > There are already comments that require response. > > Don H? Shane? > > Links please. There's alot, so I'm interested to see which ones you feel are priority. > Regards, > Dave > > On Oct 14, 2011, at 5:07 AM, Shane Curcuru wrote: > > > The

Bugzilla notifications not going to an ASF mailing list

2011-10-14 Thread Mark Thomas
Folks, The infrastructure team has noticed that Bugzilla updates from the OOo instance are not being sent to any ASF mailing lists. AS part of the "if it didn't happen on the mailing list it didn't happen" this needs to be rectified quickly. The infrastructure team will therefore be adding the oo

Re: Can we close the old mercury servers?

2011-10-14 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Dave Fisher wrote on Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 08:56:10 -0700: > > On Oct 14, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Ross Gardler > > wrote: > >> One of the comments on the Foundation blog is: > >> > >> "Unless I'm mistaken, nothing has happened in the last 6 month

Re:Foundation blog posting on Apache OOo

2011-10-14 Thread Simon Phipps
Folk here at the LibreOffice conference are asking me why Apache has put out a release they read as implying criticism of LibreOffice. Can you give me a response I can give them please? I'll be speaking at the closing session on Saturday. Cheers S. On Oct 14, 2011 2:07 PM, "Shane Curcuru" wrote:

Re: How about a new branch for the legal changes? (was Re: A systematic approach to IP review?)

2011-10-14 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Fri, 10/14/11, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: ... > > > A branch would save us from having say... 1000 commits > > with header changes in the history. > > Apache uses version control as the canonical record. It's > therefore essential to know why a header was changed and > by whom. > And o

Re: Can we close the old mercury servers?

2011-10-14 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 14, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Ross Gardler > wrote: >> One of the comments on the Foundation blog is: >> >> "Unless I'm mistaken, nothing has happened in the last 6 months: >> http://hg.services.openoffice.org/DEV300"; >> >> It is perfectly un

Re: Can we close the old mercury servers?

2011-10-14 Thread Ross Gardler
On 14 October 2011 16:51, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Ross Gardler > wrote: >> And while we are at it can we do anything about >> https://www.ohloh.net/p/openoffice - why did we create a new OhLoh >> project rather than update the old one? >> > > As previously discussed, t

Re: Can we close the old mercury servers?

2011-10-14 Thread Ross Gardler
On 14 October 2011 16:49, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Ross Gardler > wrote: >> One of the comments on the Foundation blog is: >> >> "Unless I'm mistaken, nothing has happened in the last 6 months: >> http://hg.services.openoffice.org/DEV300"; >> >> It is perfectly understa

Re: Can we close the old mercury servers?

2011-10-14 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > And while we are at it can we do anything about > https://www.ohloh.net/p/openoffice - why did we create a new OhLoh > project rather than update the old one? > As previously discussed, this is work in progress. I've succeeded in contacting

Re: Can we close the old mercury servers?

2011-10-14 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > One of the comments on the Foundation blog is: > > "Unless I'm mistaken, nothing has happened in the last 6 months: > http://hg.services.openoffice.org/DEV300"; > > It is perfectly understandable why someone would make this mistake. > > Can w

We're on slashdot!

2011-10-14 Thread Shane Curcuru
Oh, my what an... extraordinarily colorful and controversial set of quotes to rip out of the middle of different postings they put together: http://developers.slashdot.org/story/11/10/14/1531252/OpenOffice-Is-Dying-And-IBM-Wont-Help And boy, are there some misunderstandings out there. - Shane

Request for permission bits set in my bugzilla account

2011-10-14 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello guys; I am a committer and I am not afraid to commit patches ;-). Committing patches from the bugzilla database should involve being able to close issues, but that is not in my power. I never had an @openoffice.org account so that may have some relationship with my current configuration. I

Re: Can we close the old mercury servers?

2011-10-14 Thread Ross Gardler
And while we are at it can we do anything about https://www.ohloh.net/p/openoffice - why did we create a new OhLoh project rather than update the old one? On 14 October 2011 16:26, Ross Gardler wrote: > One of the comments on the Foundation blog is: > > "Unless I'm mistaken, nothing has happened

Can we close the old mercury servers?

2011-10-14 Thread Ross Gardler
One of the comments on the Foundation blog is: "Unless I'm mistaken, nothing has happened in the last 6 months: http://hg.services.openoffice.org/DEV300"; It is perfectly understandable why someone would make this mistake. Can we please do something about the old Mercury servers. Ross -- Ross

Re: Foundation blog posting on Apache OOo

2011-10-14 Thread Dave Fisher
There are already comments that require response. Don H? Shane? Regards, Dave On Oct 14, 2011, at 5:07 AM, Shane Curcuru wrote: > The press@ team has a new blog entry/announce@ about general issues around > the transition from the previous OpenOffice.org project to the new Apache > OpenOffice

Re: Anti-grain Geometry (was Re: Solve SVG visualization without cairo and librsvg)

2011-10-14 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; --- On Thu, 10/13/11, Thorsten Behrens wrote: > Pedro Giffuni wrote: > > AGG stays. It's used here: > > > > canvas/source/tools/canvastools.flt > > canvas/source/tools/image.cxx > > > image.cxx is dead code as well. both can go, with agg. > I have a patch that updates agg to version 2.4

Re: Solve SVG visualization without cairo and librsvg

2011-10-14 Thread Armin Le Grand
Hi Regina, On 13.10.2011 22:42, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Armin, Armin Le Grand schrieb: Hi Dave, On 11.10.2011 19:33, Dave Fisher wrote: Hi Armin, Sorry for the delayed response. I'm more a project manager than coder these days. Ah. Now I'm late, since I'm more a coder than a pro

Re: Anti-grain Geometry (was Re: Solve SVG visualization without cairo and librsvg)

2011-10-14 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Pedro Giffuni wrote: > AGG stays. It's used here: > > canvas/source/tools/canvastools.flt > canvas/source/tools/image.cxx > image.cxx is dead code as well. both can go, with agg. Cheers, -- Thorsten pgpRpxR25jtd3.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [legal] How to clarify, if usage of Boost C++ source libraries is allowed

2011-10-14 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 9/28/2011 7:44 AM, Rob Weir wrote: ...snip... In particular, should be forcing the questions by proposing a categorization and seeking lazy consensus? For example, "If there are no objections within 3 days to treating the Boost Licence as Category A compatible, then we assume lazy consensus a

Re: [legal] How to clarify, if usage of Boost C++ source libraries is allowed

2011-10-14 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > Honestly, I see clear answers from legal-discuss for only a small > fraction of the questions that are submitted.  I don't know if we're > misusing that list or what.  But it does not appear to operate like a > list where you submit a question

Re: Copyright Notices, Source Headers and Licenses (By Example)

2011-10-14 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin > wrote: >> It is vital that only the owner (or their agent) alters a copyright >> notice unless specific written permission been granted. >> > > And since the SGA does not specifically sa

Foundation blog posting on Apache OOo

2011-10-14 Thread Shane Curcuru
The press@ team has a new blog entry/announce@ about general issues around the transition from the previous OpenOffice.org project to the new Apache OpenOffice.org podling. http://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_software_foundation_statement (Argh, my mail client may have wrapped

Re: Hosting OpenGrok?

2011-10-14 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Rob, On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > The legacy OpenOffice.org project had an instance [1] of a source code > searching, cross reference application called "OpenGrok"[2].  It is > very useful, especially in a 6 million LOC project like OOo... I'm not on the infra team so c

Re: OOo site favicon

2011-10-14 Thread Marcus (OOo)
+1 for your favicon. Marcus Am 10/14/2011 04:23 AM, schrieb Dave Fisher: On Oct 13, 2011, at 7:13 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote: On 10/13/2011 9:56 PM, NoOp wrote: ... Why is the favicon for http://www.openoffice.org/ using a Kenai favicon rather than an official OOo/AOOo favicon? Because mos

Re: Copyright Notices, Source Headers and Licenses (By Example)

2011-10-14 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > Thank you Robert you've been very clear, but ... > > --- On Thu, 10/13/11, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > ... >> Please jump in where I've been unclear) >> > ... > >> >> It is vital that only the owner (or their agent) alters a >> copyright n

Re: How about a new branch for the legal changes? (was Re: A systematic approach to IP review?)

2011-10-14 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > > > --- On Thu, 10/13/11, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > >> I recommend separating review from (automated) execution. >> If this is done, a branch shouldn't be necessary... >> > > Uhm.. can you elaborate a bit more? For projects of this scal

Re:Hosting OpenGrok?

2011-10-14 Thread Ross Gardler
Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity. On Oct 13, 2011 11:58 PM, "Rob Weir" wrote: > > The legacy OpenOffice.org project had an instance [1] of a source code > searching, cross reference application called "OpenGrok"[2]. It is > very useful, especially in a 6 million LOC p