Re: [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?

2004-12-04 Thread Toad
On Sat, Dec 04, 2004 at 08:42:10AM -0600, S wrote: > Give it a fucking rest, already, and let's get back to making Freenet > better. That is just the problem. Newsbyte's core argument is that the ONLY way to make Freenet better is to abandon Freenet and implement something completely different (oh

Re: [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?

2004-12-04 Thread S
Can't we all just get along? Newsbyte maintains the freenethelp.org site, right? Isn't that enough of a contribution to render his opinions (however blunt they may be) welcome? For that matter, shouldn't opinions be welcome regardless of contribution? These questions are not directed at anyone in

Re: [Tech] [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?/kicked out of

2004-12-03 Thread Toad
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 12:24:23PM +0100, Newsbyte wrote: > "There can be more than one reason." > > Yes, but reasons 'afterwards' are always easily found (and even believed by > themselves). It's called 'to rationalise'. The reason why it actually got > deleted, is the reason first given in the e

[Tech] [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?/kicked out of

2004-12-03 Thread Newsbyte
"There can be more than one reason." Yes, but reasons 'afterwards' are always easily found (and even believed by themselves). It's called 'to rationalise'. The reason why it actually got deleted, is the reason first given in the email, which was based on an emotional tit-for-tat reaction, and is n

Re: [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?

2004-12-02 Thread Juiceman
Ditto. On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 14:26:53 -0500 (GMT-05:00), vinyl1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -Original Message- > From: Toad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Dec 2, 2004 12:07 PM > To: Newsbyte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [

Re: [Tech] [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?/kicked out of

2004-12-02 Thread Toad
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 09:05:05PM +0100, Newsbyte wrote: > "Saying "freenet sucks, it's gotten worse, it'll never get better", and > implying that this is because of the people building it, is not helpful. > Saying and implying it to newbies when we are particularly vulnerable > due to our slow in

Re: [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?

2004-12-02 Thread Nicholas Sturm
ginal Message] > From: Nicholas Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: vinyl1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 12/2/2004 4:47:14 PM > Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Is it always this slow? > > Actually I would not even want access to

Re: [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?

2004-12-02 Thread Nicholas Sturm
n just being here as a tester probably doesn't help much. > [Original Message] > From: vinyl1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 12/2/2004 2:27:11 PM > Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Is it always this slow? > > > > -Original Mess

[Tech] [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?/kicked out of

2004-12-02 Thread Newsbyte
"Saying "freenet sucks, it's gotten worse, it'll never get better", and implying that this is because of the people building it, is not helpful. Saying and implying it to newbies when we are particularly vulnerable due to our slow initial performance due to freenet taking a while to learn where stu

Re: [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?

2004-12-02 Thread vinyl1
-Original Message- From: Toad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Dec 2, 2004 12:07 PM To: Newsbyte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Is it always this slow? Motion to ban as a troll? Opposed. Free speech for all, even soreheads. Call it vig

Re: [Tech] [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?/kicked out of

2004-12-02 Thread Toad
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 03:13:32PM +1300, Phillip Hutchings wrote: > Yeah, I wish I had that connection to my home. I have to live with > 256/128 cable. When I ran freenet on that it wasn't too bad, but I > have a bandwidth cap. I feel for you. Are you in australia/new zealand? Or is there a local

Re: [Tech] [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?/kicked out of

2004-12-02 Thread Toad
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 01:58:28AM +0100, Newsbyte wrote: > Well, phillip, see my other post for your remarks, but I would wanna say > specifically one thing: > > "* I don't like (frequently Ian)" > > Isn't true. I NEVER contend it's the person, as individual, that I dislike, > I dislike the act

Re: [Tech] [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?/kicked out of

2004-12-02 Thread Toad
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 03:19:59PM +0100, Newsbyte wrote: > My critism is related to the performance and way of development of Freenet. > In both instances, I have given constructive suggestions too, but you deny > that. And even this time, I said changing to UDP might help with the > firewall issu

Re: [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?/kicked out of the project

2004-12-02 Thread Toad
What you actually said was, in your own annoying paste style: "Frustrating? Can't be! It has much improved, *much* I say. If you don't believe me, ask toad and Ian!Even the simulations say so! We have NIO and NGR now, so things definately have improved for noobs like you, whatever you may think ab

Re: [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?

2004-12-02 Thread Toad
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 01:53:58AM +, Clueless wrote: > On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 01:39:54 +0100, Newsbyte wrote: > > >Actually, I was being sarcastic, which you may not have noticed, being a > >newbie. > > OIC. :-) > > >version. The version is one thing, the build something else. It should be > >5

Re: [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?

2004-12-02 Thread Toad
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 01:39:54AM +0100, Newsbyte wrote: > Well, it's a funny thing, with the firewall. I'm still not very clear about > myself. It is supposed to work without a glitch these days; it should handle > NAT and firewalls without a glitch...only it sort of doesn't. It works, but > it d

Re: [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?

2004-12-02 Thread Toad
Motion to ban as a troll? On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 01:39:54AM +0100, Newsbyte wrote: > "So you're saying it should be faster? But even when I used the Freenet > gateways, they were very slow." > > Actually, I was being sarcastic, which you may not have noticed, being a > newbie. If you scroll to m

Re: [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?

2004-12-02 Thread Toad
On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 10:40:10PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > OK, so I tried Freenet... or rather, I'm trying to try it. > > It's running for about 36 hours now, with pauses because I have to go offline > every 12 hours. (is that a problem?) Not if it's a brief offline. > > A Freenet site

Re: [Tech] [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?/kicked out of

2004-12-02 Thread BAKEMAN
Jesus, If anything gave me a bad taste in my mouth other than freenet's terrible speed and reliablility, it's this current argument. Good luck in the future, maybe I'll be back when this doesn't remind me of a dysfunction family. ___ Support mailing list

Re: [Tech] [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?/kicked out of

2004-12-01 Thread Phillip Hutchings
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 01:58:28 +0100, Newsbyte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, phillip, see my other post for your remarks, but I would wanna say > specifically one thing: > > "* I don't like (frequently Ian)" > > Isn't true. I NEVER contend it's the person, as individual, that I dislike, > I di

[Tech] [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?/kicked out of

2004-12-01 Thread Newsbyte
Well, phillip, see my other post for your remarks, but I would wanna say specifically one thing: "* I don't like (frequently Ian)" Isn't true. I NEVER contend it's the person, as individual, that I dislike, I dislike the actions and decisions a person takes, because it leads, and has lead, to a

Re: [Tech] [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?/kicked out of

2004-12-01 Thread Phillip Hutchings
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 15:19:59 +0100, Newsbyte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [cut for brevity] In my time watching this list, which is well over a year now, I don't actually recall you making a valid contribution to the project. I do tend to read your emails, though it can be a struggle at times, and al

[Tech] [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?/kicked out of

2004-12-01 Thread Newsbyte
"I wasn't aware that you were ever "in" the project to be kicked out of it (whatever being "in" the project means). Very few people have @freenetproject.org email addresses, you got one because you asked for it and because you said it would help you raise donations for the project." That was one

Re: [Tech] [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?/kicked out of the project

2004-12-01 Thread Ian Clarke
On 1 Dec 2004, at 10:05, Newsbyte wrote: > Now, may I ask you if you feel I have helped/supported you with my posts? I ask that, because I just got emailed by Ian saying he kicked me out of the project (well, at least he disabled my freenetproject account) I wasn't aware that you were ever "in" t

Re: [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?/kicked out of the project

2004-12-01 Thread Clueless
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 11:05:00 +0100, Newsbyte wrote: >300MB is very little, to be honest. But of course it depends on the size of >your HD. Normally, it is (should be) set to 10% of your free HD-space. The default was 256MB, but the HD I installed Freenet on only had 1 GB free... >Now, may I ask y

[freenet-support] Is it always this slow?/kicked out of the project

2004-12-01 Thread Newsbyte
"Is that good or bad? Interestingly, even that many connections use very little of my bandwidth." It's rather good. It's way more then my average Open connections, and it indicates that it's not really a firewall/NAT problem. "BTW, how big should the cache, or 'store' be? I guess the 300 MB I've

Re: [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?

2004-11-30 Thread Clueless
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 01:39:54 +0100, Newsbyte wrote: >Actually, I was being sarcastic, which you may not have noticed, being a >newbie. OIC. :-) >version. The version is one thing, the build something else. It should be >5100 (you can see that when you open fproxy), which it probably is. Yes it i

[freenet-support] Is it always this slow?

2004-11-30 Thread Newsbyte
"So you're saying it should be faster? But even when I used the Freenet gateways, they were very slow." Actually, I was being sarcastic, which you may not have noticed, being a newbie. If you scroll to my earlier posts on devl or support, you will notice I've made EXACTLY the point that for noobs

Re: [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?

2004-11-30 Thread Clueless
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 00:27:44 +0100, Newsbyte wrote: >Frustrating? Can't be! It has much improved, *much* I say. If you don't >believe me, ask toad and Ian!Even the simulations say so! We have NIO and >NGR now, so things definately have improved for noobs like you, whatever you >may think about it y

[freenet-support] Is it always this slow?

2004-11-30 Thread Newsbyte
"OK, so I tried Freenet... or rather, I'm trying to try it. It's running for about 36 hours now, with pauses because I have to go offline every 12 hours. (is that a problem?) A Freenet site takes now from 5 to 20 minutes to load, if it loads at all. After much trying, I downloaded Frost, but the

[freenet-support] Is it always this slow?

2004-11-30 Thread jbcare
OK, so I tried Freenet... or rather, I'm trying to try it. It's running for about 36 hours now, with pauses because I have to go offline every 12 hours. (is that a problem?) A Freenet site takes now from 5 to 20 minutes to load, if it loads at all. After much trying, I downloaded Frost, but the