Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-07 Thread Charles Goldsmith
gt; To: werthei...@hotmail.com > CC: texascavers@texascavers.com > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We > Heard? > > Ok, this is enough, people are obviously passionate about these topics, but > its not related to caving directly. Take it to the

RE: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-07 Thread Louise Power
:27 -0500 To: werthei...@hotmail.com CC: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard? Ok, this is enough, people are obviously passionate about these topics, but its not related to caving directly. Take it to the OT list. I d

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-06 Thread Andy Grubbs
> [mailto:pitboun...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 9:49 AM > > > To: caveran...@yahoo.com > > Cc: Cavetex > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why > Haven't We > Heard? > > I > >

RE: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-06 Thread A. Wertheim
Fine- we're even. Woudlnt want my money back anyways cause I know you're not making a profit. From: wo...@justfamily.org List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 19:33:49 -0500 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Hea

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-06 Thread Charles Goldsmith
the first post-er. And if you cant moderate a forum > with dissenting opinion then let it be. > > But thanks for intimating that my reply was the only one of substance. > > -- > From: wo...@justfamily.org > Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 18:58:13 -0500 > > Subject: Re:

RE: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-06 Thread A. Wertheim
wo...@justfamily.org List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 18:58:13 -0500 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard? To: werthei...@hotmail.com Nico asked everyone to post replies over to OT, by the time I caught up and read 20 replie

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-06 Thread Charles Goldsmith
justfamily.org > Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 18:58:13 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We > Heard? > To: werthei...@hotmail.com > > Nico asked everyone to post replies over to OT, by the time I caught up and > read 20 replies with

RE: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-06 Thread A. Wertheim
: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard? To: werthei...@hotmail.com Nico asked everyone to post replies over to OT, by the time I caught up and read 20 replies with no substance, I replied once... Should I have replied to each one? I don't get paid to do this, I

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-06 Thread Charles Goldsmith
mily.org > > Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 15:24:27 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We > Heard? > To: werthei...@hotmail.com > CC: texascavers@texascavers.com > > > Ok, this is enough, people are obviously passionate about these

RE: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-06 Thread A. Wertheim
-0500 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard? To: werthei...@hotmail.com CC: texascavers@texascavers.com Ok, this is enough, people are obviously passionate about these topics, but its not related to caving directly. Take it to the OT list. I do not wa

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-06 Thread speleosteele
Thanks. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Charles Goldsmith Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 15:24:27 To: A. Wertheim Cc: Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard? Ok, this is enough, people are obviously passionate about these to

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-06 Thread Ron Miller
@texascavers.com Sent: Sun, June 6, 2010 3:24:27 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard? Ok, this is enough, people are obviously passionate about these topics, but its not related to caving directly. Take it to the OT list. I do not want to see an

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-06 Thread Charles Goldsmith
> > *Cc:* Cavetex > > *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We > Heard? > > > I > thought attachments werent allowed on the list.. Charles, are you still > asleep > or something? > > with > > that behind let me just say a cou

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-06 Thread A. Wertheim
Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard? I thought attachments werent allowed on the list.. Charles, are you still asleep or something?withthat behind let me just say a couple things:first, read through, it was not Monterrey but Higueras NLsecond this is not the first gun cache that our armed forces

Re: [ot_caving] Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-05 Thread Scott Nicholson
Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard? Im taking this thread to the OT list Rod, Certainly, it is well know that these bad people have bought many a local police department  as well as state and hav'em working for them (I know that for a fact) however your point is not really valid here..

[ot_caving] Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-05 Thread Nico Escamilla
Im taking this thread to the OT list Rod, Certainly, it is well know that these bad people have bought many a local police department as well as state and hav'em working for them (I know that for a fact) however your point is not really valid here... with the exception of the Army, 50 cal Barret

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-04 Thread Rod Goke
The question of fault:Is it the United States' fault for banning drugs and creating a lucrative demand for criminals to smuggle drugs northwards, or is it Mexico's fault for banning guns and creating a lucrative demand for criminals to smuggle guns southward? That issue ranks right up there with li

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-04 Thread caveran...@yahoo.com
ree to blast me over anything I said here. AM   --- On Fri, 6/4/10, cavera...@aol.com wrote: From: cavera...@aol.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard? To: pitboun...@gmail.com, fh...@townandcountryins.com Cc: wo...@justfamily.org, caveran...@

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-04 Thread caverarch
Sent: Fri, Jun 4, 2010 3:07 pm Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard? Dont get me wrong y'all.. Im pro gun, own several and use them responsibly.. I just dont like it when people start ranting about the violence in my neck of the woods and how it

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-04 Thread Nico Escamilla
Dont get me wrong y'all.. Im pro gun, own several and use them responsibly.. I just dont like it when people start ranting about the violence in my neck of the woods and how it can start affecting them when they (or their government for that matter) are also to blame. Yes, legalizing drugs would r

RE: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-04 Thread Fritz Holt
Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard? Those weren't attachments, those were inline links since the email came through HTML formatted :) Governments can't stop guns if bad guys want to get them. All they can do is stop the honest citizen from getting them. Charles On Fri, Jun 4,

RE: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-04 Thread Fritz Holt
Whoever initiated this dumb string should have at least put it on OT. F. From: cavera...@aol.com [mailto:cavera...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 11:56 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven&#

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-04 Thread Gill Edigar
1st, I agree with Nico. Period. 2nd, The whole thing is caused by a demand for illegal drugs in the US. Without that demand there would be no drug smuggling of any sort. 3rd, the solution is to simply make those drugs legal and put the smugglers out of business. 4th, instead of executing all illega

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-04 Thread caverarch
How about back to caving? <>

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-04 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Those weren't attachments, those were inline links since the email came through HTML formatted :) Governments can't stop guns if bad guys want to get them. All they can do is stop the honest citizen from getting them. Charles On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Nico Escamilla wrote: > I thought a

RE: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-04 Thread Stefan Creaser
com] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 11:24 AM To: 'Nico Escamilla'; caveran...@yahoo.com; 'Fritz Holt'; Sheryl Rieck; Stefan Creaser Cc: 'Cavetex' Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard? Hey! Wait a minute Nico, I hear from on

RE: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-04 Thread egelsone
t; To: Fritz Holt; Nico Escamilla; caveran...@yahoo.com > Cc: Cavetex > Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We > Heard? > > > > I’m gonna side with Nico :-) > > > > From: Fritz Holt [mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com] > Sen

RE: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-04 Thread Sheryl Rieck
From: Stefan Creaser [mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 10:16 AM To: Fritz Holt; Nico Escamilla; caveran...@yahoo.com Cc: Cavetex Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard? I’m gonna side with Nico :-) From: Fritz Holt [mail

RE: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-04 Thread Thomas Sitch
Riight.  Because grenades are readily available in the United States.  I buy them at 7-11 all the time so I can run 'em down south. --- On Fri, 6/4/10, Mike Gross wrote: From: Mike Gross Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard? To: "

RE: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-04 Thread Mike Gross
M 6/4/2010 -0700, Stefan Creaser wrote: Im gonna side with Nico :-) From: Fritz Holt [mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 10:00 AM To: 'Nico Escamilla'; caveran...@yahoo.com Cc: Cavetex Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why H

RE: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-04 Thread Stefan Creaser
I'm gonna side with Nico :-) From: Fritz Holt [mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 10:00 AM To: 'Nico Escamilla'; caveran...@yahoo.com Cc: Cavetex Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard? Sounds like a

RE: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-04 Thread Fritz Holt
Sounds like a familiar blame game. Fritz From: Nico Escamilla [mailto:pitboun...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 9:49 AM To: caveran...@yahoo.com Cc: Cavetex Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard? I th

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-04 Thread Nico Escamilla
] > *Sent:* Friday, June 04, 2010 9:49 AM > *To:* caveran...@yahoo.com > *Cc:* Cavetex > *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We > Heard? > > > > I thought attachments werent allowed on the list.. Charles, are you still > asleep o

RE: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-04 Thread SS
You mean we actually EXPORT something! This is good news _ From: Nico Escamilla [mailto:pitboun...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 9:49 AM To: caveran...@yahoo.com Cc: Cavetex Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-04 Thread Nico Escamilla
I thought attachments werent allowed on the list.. Charles, are you still asleep or something? with that behind let me just say a couple things: first, read through, it was not Monterrey but Higueras NL second this is not the first gun cache that our armed forces hace seized (this is like the four

[Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-04 Thread caveran...@yahoo.com
Just passing this along (from a retired BP agent I know). See pix of arms confiscated in Moneterrey, NL, MX AM --- On Thu, 6/3/10, Bill White wrote: From: Bill White wwhit...@gmail.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Thursday, June 3, 2010, 8:03 PM Mexico needs help in cleani