My SB Touch has been plugging along for many years now, feeding its
SP/DIF output to my Bel Canto C5i.
I was recently rearranging things and decided to try a TOSLINK cable
instead, but only got dead silence. I tried two different cables and
both optical inputs on the amp. The optical cables and
I use Squeeze Commander on both my HTC Android phone and Kindle Fire.
Both work great but the Kindle is my favorite for selecting music and
controlling playback.
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pippin wrote:
> I'm not so sure. The OP realized that the Touch sounded the same as his,
> sorry for not reading it up, WD? device.
> Which is probably a correct observation.
> SQ is 90% speakers, 9% amplifier, 0.9% DAC, 0.1% everything else.
Once again, I don't disagree with your allocation of t
Mnyb wrote:
> +1 of course .
>
> But the wording "disappointed with sound quality" :-/
>
> Lack of EQ is not the same as lack of sound quality ? they are separate
> things
I can't disagree with you from my perspective, but it is not uncommon
for those on the outside of a hobby to use term
Raffie wrote:
> ...The key here is the equalizer feature which the Creative player has
> and SBT sadly lacks.
Not sure why this thread is running on the way it is. The one sentence
quoted above plainly explains why the original poster is unimpressed
with the Touch.
He prefers the enhanced fr
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote:
> Well what are you gonna do when your computer craps out and you have to
> buy a new one , then you find out with your computer's new operating
> system won't run LMS ?
A couple of thoughts.
1. I've had a personal computer since about 1981 or 82, and while I know
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote:
> Buying a discontinued product that relies on bug fixes to maintain its
> functionality
> when there is some doubt as to whether Logitech will put forth the
> effort to
> correct those problems Is ludicrous IMO .
Just curious, what bug do I need fixed to keep playin
gerardhn wrote:
> ...Not to be arrogant.
Too late.
And, to borrow a comment I made elsewhere on the forum, it has always
struck me as rather ironic that the subjective evaluation adherents
don't think are they affected by subjective bias.
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kerkula wrote:
> Nice to know. Out of curiosity, how old is your oldest one?
>
> Kerkula
I bought my first Touch when they were first released in April 2010 or 2
1/2 years ago. It has been plugged in 24/7 since and works perfectly.
Just reporting in -- my Touch from Amazon arrived this afternoon. The
box was completely sealed and showed no signs of having been previously
opened. The Touch itself was pristine. It started up just fine, updated
itself, then connected to the LMS and played fine.
Sorry the OP didn't have the sa
snoogly wrote:
> Just took delivery of what was meant to be a new Touch, but it has
> obvious signs of wear (even fingerprints all over the screen). Crudely
> wrapped in plastic film to make it look new.
>
> Is this 'normal'? Stupid question I know ... What I really mean is, does
> Logtech have
Dumb question, but you indicated the Touch has a static address, but I'm
not sure what you mean by "in the router". Static addresses are set in
the device in question. What happens when you set the static address in
the Touch itself? Does it not stick?
Also keep in mind that electronics, when th
My first thought is for you to check the IP address used by the Touch.
Is it in the same range as the rest of your subnet? Second, when you
open LMS and go to "Settings", then the "Player" tab, does the Touch
show up there? Have you tried pulling the power on the Touch, waiting a
minute and then r
Turnandcough wrote:
> Sometimes it's a compromise between smooth and dull vs harsh and
> lively. I'll give it another try but for now I find my sound to be as
> smooth as it'll probably get with the Touch. (or maybe I'm imagining
> things...)
Two comments. First, I find recordings to be far mor
Dazed and Confused wrote:
> Just set up Touch for the first time. FLAC files are being fed via a
> wired connection from a Synology DS212+ NAS, then into amp (analogue)
> using the supplied leads and thenspeakers. The sound is very digital, ie
> bright and and I want to know ways of making it les
grum wrote:
> @mlsstl - I agree, and generally I tend not to have a lot of issues.
>
> Can I go straight from 7.5.4 to 7.7.2?
Shouldn't be a big issue for that version jump. Any issues that I've
ever had from a version upgrade have always been fixed easily by
manually clea
You can always find someone, somewhere, who has a problem with any
version of a software program even if things are fine for most users. I
can only say that I've been running 7.7.2 (Linux version) on a Vortexbox
with absolutely no issues. I've got a Touch, SB3 and a Radio.
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> Thanks for the info. I don't know what to say, they are doing the right
> thing, I'm surprised performance is so poor!
It's the same thing pointed out before. The whole series of Squeezebox
network players were originally designed to have a server running in the
background. The
badhack wrote:
> I am a bit shocked. If it can decode FLAC streams likely it can handle
> >100 playlist.
This aspect of the Touch falls into the "no good deed goes unpunished"
category.
All prior "Slim Device" players prior to this required a local server in
order to play local music. That
Do you get the hiss if you disconnect the RCA interconnects from the
Touch to the preamp? Do you get the hiss if you connect another line
source (tuner, CD player, etc.) to the preamp? If you get the same hiss
from other sources or with no input then the noise is probably
originating in the preamp
I strongly recommend the Vortexbox approach. Just replaced my old music
server about 2 weeks ago with one.
They come as a preconfigured hardware device starting for under US$500
(exact cost depends hard drive size) or you can download the software
for free. I did the latter and bought an inexpe
You might try manually clearing the cache before rescanning. I'm a Linux
user so can tell you where to find it on that system, but XP should also
have one floating around somewhere. Deleting the old cache has
periodically been necessary when I've upgraded SBS/LMS.
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a high quality format (e.g., FLAC, etc.)
and become familiar with the user interface and regular operation.
Then, after a month or two, if you still feel the need to try an
external DAC, you'll be able to concentrate on that change and you'll
have a solid reference point to determine if it
found the screen too small and kept going back to the Controller. The
Kindle's larger screen solves that issue.
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So, yes, they have a fine product and I'd like to see them keep making
it, but it's not the end of the world if they do the corporate thing
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from a SB3 in my main system to a Touch with no issues. (The SB3 is
still in-use in a second system along with a Radio and a Controller -
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I'd expect eBay/Paypal would refund your money if the seller doesn't do
it voluntarily. If the seller provided a specific power supply with
your purchase, you had every reason to presume it was the correct one.
He owes you a refund.
think any intentional change somewhat less likely. Wireless devices
require certification by the FCC and even minor changes mean a trip back
through the recertification process.
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of blind test that removes the potential for
subjective influence.
Otherwise, if you're happy and the expenditure is within your budget,
then just enjoy the sound. At that level, the exact cause doesn't
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an older version of SBS (7.3), you will want
to be careful in making sure the new SBS "user" has access to the music
directory and files. If I recall correctly, OSX can also be picky about
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ech hasn't advertised
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My comment was "...-before- complaining too loudly." ;-)
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se hits are not Apple's fault, a few percent of 167 million
is still a bunch.
In your case, call Logitech and give them a chance to help you before
complaining too loudly.
For me, the 7.6 update worked fine - artwork and all - on a
Have you used MP3Tag or a similar program to examine the tags for the
files in question? I always manually check the tags before I add music
to my Squeezebox music folder and haven't had any problems.
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Then, once that's done, bring it home and you should be fine without
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edora Core user (which comes with the firewall turned on), so am
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> muziekdoos_Chunked}:t_sendRequest.pump: connection refused
>
> Can anyone help me with this please?
>
> Thanx!
Check your firewall settings in Ubuntu. It needs to be open for traffic
on ports 9000 (tcp) and 3483 (tcp & udp). You should be able to restrict
this to your loca
ssions from the GUI Nautilus file browser
under the properties/permissions tab.
However, I'd recommend that you first just check if there is a
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e an issue when an externals drive is connected
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switched routers recently I had to manually change the statics from
192.168.2.X to 192.168.1.X.
And I believe the port that Squeezeboxserver needs to have open is
3483, both TCP and UDP.
I'm not a Mac person, so those are pretty generic thoughts.
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faulty 5 port switch. The
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remote that comes with the Touch would suffice) then definitely get the
Touch.
If you don't have a smart phone or iPod but a full feature remote with
display is more important than the last nth of sound quality, the
pendulum then goes toward the Duet.
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involved.
Like noted above, I'd probably use a personal cloud if the concept
takes off, but you'd still have a hard time prying my fingers off my
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guess, but I'd suspect it is one of the reasons mentioned earlier.
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l with others deciding what we should
hear/see and when.
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nded up with more than a few original items
on tape along with some copies of studio masters. In those cases, you
either convert or lose them.
I found the process rather enjoyable overall, plus it was always
exciting to rediscover
gs I didn't even know I owned!
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hat does make a difference (but just doesn't matter to
most) and other times they may just be feeding a vivid imagination.
It doesn't really matter as long as that individual is getting the
enjoyment they want.
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atever) connected directly to
> a DAC and the stereo would sound closer to what I want
Interesting pronouncement since the Mac will have variables of its own.
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I think the main point to the original poster is that he should try the
analog outs of the Touch before rushing to spend money on an external
DAC. His choice should not be the subject of a vote by others.
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As they say, YMMV.
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rence between the two without checking the position of the
amp's input selector. I ended up selling the Lavry DAC 8 months ago and
haven't thought of upgrading since.
I'd encourage you to listen to the Touch by itself for a while. Why
worry about upgrades before you even li
I got lost when you reformatted the drive to FAT. Why do that to just
add some music?
Have you examined the contents of the external drive with it plugged
into your computer? Does everything show there? Is the music in a
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Squeezeserver?
You could also call Logitech and have them walk through the situation
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enue and so on. If those choices
are off base (in my opinion) there's nothing a DAC can do to fix those
issues.
Count me a happy Touch user.
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However, that's probably just me. I turned in my "audiophile" club card
some time ago out of annoyance. I wonder if some of these people even
bother listening to the music these days....
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lity.
Of course, that's one of those subjects where there is no shortage of
opinions. In that light, perhaps it is worth it for you to spend some
time running a few experiments and then do what makes the most sense to
yo
, the Touch is wonderful. The only deficiency
has been for those who wish to do away with an external server and use
the built-in tiny SBS. That works fine for some but has been
problematic for others. However, things should be fine for anyone that
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garym;578717 Wrote:
> Complaining over at their official site does register with support.
I'll take your word for it. But one can't tell by looking at their
responses or changes in the way they do things. ;-)
he Touch/USB issues. Same for
Receiver availability and the Radio battery in Canada.
As such, the official site doesn't seem particularly useful, especially
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for that as the most likely to account for your perception, but then
it's also OK. Whatever works to enhance your enjoyment of music is fine
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s such as 2.4 GHz cordless phones, etc. It
that's an issue you're going to notice it and it won't be subtle.
Otherwise, my opinion is that if it is working, don't worry about it
unless you're just determined to have a case of audiophilia
JohnSwenson;576760 Wrote:
> Then marketing heard about it...
In other words, another good example of "no good deed goes
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ifference between the two relatively small even without taking
the price difference into account. I would have thought a "class B" or
at least a "C" rating would have been appropriate.
Is the Touch just too cheap and small to rate higher? It
t;neat things."
As much as I like my Touch as a NMP, the unremitting hassle of Tiny SBS
is several orders of magnitude worse than the Controller.
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haps if they would have taken this approach from the start there
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so on.
There is likely a simple answer to your problem, that once learned,
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RE: unregistering a player
This probably refers to your account at mysqueezebox.com.
Go to that web site and log in. Click on the "Players" tab and then
choose the appropriate player. That's where you unregister i
sleepysurf;560035 Wrote:
> BTW, can the Touch handle 24/96 FLAC tracks streamed directly from a USB
> Flash Drive?
I don't have very much 24/96 material, but what I do have plays fine
from either the server or a flash drive.
The obvious next thing to try is a different flash drive. If the Touch
can read the other drive that would help establish that the Touch is
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are a number of commercial products available that will do the same
thing. If you want to keep things variable, a passive volume control is
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get annoyed is when the extras interfere with the fundamental
operation. That's not been a problem for me as I use the Touch with an
external server and it performs its player obligations extremely well.
(I would not be so
the current limitations. Given Logitech's history in the
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I don't want to listen to any music during the time period the Touch
will be scanning.
Even if Logitech can't give a precise size at which large USB drives
become dicey with Tiny SBS, they could at least include some
understand the frustration of those who bought
one, expecting it to work as advertised.
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pretty erratic. My Squeezebox experience dates back 8 or 9 years to the
very first SliMP3 so its not like this is my first exposure.
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he Touch stand alone server three
solid tries with two different external USB drives and never did get
satisfactory results. If I'd bought the Touch solely for use in that
capacity, I'd be very disappointed - that option is way too erratic for
me.
ables into the mix.
There are always factors involved that no one outside the company can
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premium. Amazon has one listed used for
$195 and the last one I saw sold on eBay last week went for over $200.
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after that long delay, I'd sure hate to think just how persnickety Tiny
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d of a pity that after a four month release delay to fix these
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> you have to ask? cant figure that out on your own, eh?
Please forgive me. Sometimes I forget that certain people actually
prefer misery to solving their problem.
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