On Tue, August 6, 2013 7:52 am, Len Ovens wrote:
All of our packages have a debian/copyright file. This file should be
machine readable ( see:
http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/copyright-format/1.0/ ) and
none of ours are.
Forgot to add. it would be a good idea to leave a message
to fix such issues?
A lot of this stuff would be best in a meta that can be added.
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On Sun, July 28, 2013 10:34 pm, Jarno Suni wrote:
2013/7/29 Len Ovens l...@ovenwerks.net
Interesting... I did some testing. Turning pulse off in the session
start
up does not keep it from starting. Second, The pulse configuration does
not stay where it is put. Plugging in headphones takes
wish to refine things, can be submitted as a
merge... set me as review.
it can be tested from my ppa:
https://launchpad.net/~len-ovenwerks/+archive/ppa
(after it builds the binary... in this case repackages things)
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audio HW turned off.
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This one says that because of it's simplicity it can't be copy-written.
Though of course it goes beyond that. However, it is not then CC and could
be used as part of something that is gpl2 (which the rest of the package
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On Sun, July 28, 2013 9:27 am, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sun, 2013-07-28 at 09:05 -0700, Len Ovens wrote:
This one says that because of it's simplicity it can't be
copy-written.
Wow, it's not simple it's a worth protecting logo, it combines the
Circle of Friends with symbols that represent
itself and any device should be
settable as SW levels only.
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there.
No problem. I can get something that works. If you come up with something
better later, it is trivial to switch.
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On Sat, July 27, 2013 3:54 pm, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2013-07-27 at 15:37 -0700, Len Ovens wrote:
On Sat, July 27, 2013 3:05 pm, Shubham Mishra wrote:
I need an icon for our installer. This will be used in the menu for
any
I'm sorry but I'm moving this tuesday. Lot's of preparations
On Sat, July 27, 2013 4:47 pm, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2013-07-27 at 16:17 -0700, Len Ovens wrote:
22X22
The icon I started need to be fixed to fit to this size. The US logo
anyway should be larger and the drive smaller. For this size the drive
should be removed, for this icon
be bigger too or something completely new.
My hope is that this would be a persons first install if they are
installing some of our metas in another flavour as it takes all the
guesswork out of which metas are up to date and it makes sense to install.
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about using a theme as default, it must be
in the standard Ubuntu repos.
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can tell. Our menu drops in fine. I haven't
tried all the applications, but they do install. Jack runs etc.
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other. (wait till you get to be 45/50 ;)
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that needs resolution one way or the other.
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their
problems. The best solution for most people is to use them all for what
each works best at. Having a switch to turn the PA-jack link off at need
does make sense to me.
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to release. I will branch and put a snapshot up
on my PPA (or you can do so on your own) and install it on a machine so I
can get a screen shot for our art lead to look at.
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better than the panel menu was...
sometimes worse. So we should have 22x as well. The 22x can even be
different if it makes it easier to recognize.
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Sorry, I guess I was using ideas that expected you to already know what I
was saying... I am not a good teacher.
I will try hard to explain below in answer to points. (scroll down for
more info)
On Fri, June 28, 2013 5:36 am, Shubham Mishra wrote:
On 06/22/2013 11:31 AM, Len Ovens wrote:
Hello
some of the apps did not appear in some of the earlier versions.
(lots of fun)
My intent was for using raring and up.
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a menu item and vanish when the install completed. I would argue that
a completely terminal based version would be no hardship even for someone
who has never done anything command line. I may yet find a terminal based
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can test it before release.
I have found the easiest way to test things like this is to just install
the file on my own machine and see how it works.
Let me know if you need any help at all.
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for those interested. I
don't know that it can be backported or SRUed to 12.04 as that would
require also backporting the supported metas which we changed in 13.04. I
am rather looking ahead to 14.04.
Comments as always are welcome.
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as this affects
projects like alacarte too.
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, desktop files and directory files).
Untarring it in / and then removing the debian directory should work. Well
I haven't tried it :) but thats the theory anyway.
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to use alongside jack when
pulse has no control of the device.
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have felt it
was no longer useful. Pulse also uses audio interface profiles and is very
complete. I will see if I can revive qamix and maybe expand it.
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On Tue, June 18, 2013 7:48 am, Jarno Suni wrote:
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Len Ovens l...@ovenwerks.net wrote:
If there is a debian src package (even old) it may be helpful to me. Thank
you for mentioning that it has been in Ubuntu repos. All I could find was
the sourceforge
with. FVWM is in
our repo, so I may try that too :) If I do, it will be starting from the
mini.iso install.
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menu. I am thinking these are based on gnome shell 3 but not the latest
one which of coarse has no fallback mode... as I found with ubuntu gnome.
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DefaultMergeDirs/
Near the top and move it just before the /Menu line at the
bottom of the
file. There are more than one /Menu lines in there so make sure
it is
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On Tue, June 11, 2013 12:13 am, Kaj Ailomaa wrote:
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013, at 08:34 AM, Len Ovens wrote:
the gnomeshell menus is they merge incorrectly. That is what moving the
merge line in the menu is for. (I left it down below so you can look for
it) this is a fairly common error in default
part of the gnome-menus package (or something
like that). This fix would also fix some of the problems with alacarte
(and other menu editors) that people have had.
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Look for a line like:
DefaultMergeDirs/
Near the top and move it just before the /Menu line at the bottom of the
file. There are more than one /Menu lines in there so make sure it is
the last one :) I have been bug reporting these as I find them.
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On Tue, June 4, 2013 9:56 am, Jimmy Sjölund wrote:
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:18 AM, Len Ovens l...@ovenwerks.net wrote:
A good description of a video workflow for those of us who don't know
anything about it would be very useful. In fact a documentation of the
video work flow for those
is
framestored so it can be synced to station... kind of like resampling.
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On Wed, June 5, 2013 2:34 am, edmund wrote:
On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 01:21:19 +0200
Hartmut Noack zettber...@linuxuse.de wrote:
Am 04.06.2013 02:43, schrieb Len Ovens:
On Mon, June 3, 2013 8:02 am, edmund wrote:
What are you calling uncommon sample rates? Ubuntu Studio is for
multi media
On Mon, June 3, 2013 3:12 am, ttoine wrote:
2013/6/1 Len Ovens l...@ovenwerks.net
As a side note, KDE does not affect audio that I can tell. I can still
do
low latency work with no xruns the same as with xfce. I have not turned
off any of the extra video features of the desktop or in any
On Mon, June 3, 2013 1:21 pm, Antoine Thomas wrote:
Le 3 juin 2013 21:52, Len Ovens l...@ovenwerks.net a écrit :
Some examples ?
For me, mixxx and blender... that I have tried. Both of them kill X when
running xfce, but not in a kde session.
I use Unity with Ubuntu Studio and it works
on
anything I have tried it on.
We should perhaps switch back to Parole, A) because it works and B)
because that will keep us more in line with Xubuntu and their testing
should cover the use of this video player with XFCE. (It may be that Totem
works fine with a full gnome/unity setup)
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Just for interest sake. Our upgrade process is less than perfect.
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To: Linux Audio Users linux
to appear
as though they were inactive windows.
I am not sure what to do about that... another theme that does work could
be substituted as part of the cinnamon package and set that as default for
that DE.
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in one package
(ubuntustudio-default-settings) if at all possible. However, with
gnomeshell, unity and cinnamon there may be overlaps that prevent the
ability to have more than one of them on the system at a time.
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it in for example. I have a spare partition to try this
on. (or I can make one)
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don't try pushing xfce stuff
where it may get in the way.
- Create an installer.
There are a number of people who add our metas to their install now and so
this part needs to be cleaned up anyway.
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be for entertainment for them.
Anyway, assuming Cinnamon uses the gnome menu style of old, it should be
easy to add in the A/V menu overlay with that DE too. (easy doesn't mean
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thing, that IMO
isn't well thought out. A wrapper sometimes is useful, but this wrapper
is strange.
I am not sure why this is. As I said the qjackctl file is not a script.
and I am not sure that it is unique to ubuntu either, but it is worth
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On Wed, May 22, 2013 12:25 am, Hartmut Noack wrote:
Am 22.05.2013 07:53, schrieb Len Ovens:
This is an interesting project.
To be frank: interesting project is quite bold a description for
installing more than one DE in Linux. It would be interesting though,
if the US-packages would fail
to do in the areas they are good
at. This is not a sweatshop.
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pro audio distro. Certainly I think it can be used that way, but it's aim
is also to be a pro graphic studio and a pro photographers studio and a
pro video creation tool. Hopefully the user will soon be able to choose
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On Wed, May 22, 2013 2:49 pm, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Wed, 2013-05-22 at 14:34 -0700, Len Ovens wrote:
Am 22.05.2013 22:09, schrieb Jimmy Sjölund:
First of all, Ubuntu Studio is not a pro audio distribution. It's
for
all multimedia content creation.
I have always considered US
. For
example, I get lower latency by turning hyperthreading off. The desktop is
a little slower, but I can get 1ms latency thought jack without xruns
with guitarix running.
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- multiverse
I can find ttf-mscorefonts-installer though. But it seems we don't need it
to run. LMMS runs without. (or it runs with the installer failing for lack
of user input)
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don't think I have real strong preferences here. I just tried to make
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:) when pointed at hw:0 shows the controls for
both hw:0,0 and hw:0,1 Is this normal? Nice to know that dac0 would not
show up in jack, but I should use the dac1 control instead :P
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be useful.
mudita24 for example, could use user selectable fader ganging in the
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there may be better ideas. I would suggest starting with the Intel HDA and
AC97 HW.
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On Tue, May 7, 2013 3:15 pm, Len Ovens wrote:
Volti: someone has done some fixing on this. Last time I used it the
faders were very wide. While they don't go as small as qasmixer, they do
Nope, depends on the machine... or really what the most complex audio card
on the machine
are controlled by knobs or digital inputs like
aes3, aes10 or ADAT. It would be a lot less confusing if the input showed
on the mixer with a note that says level forced full or something like
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to be reset. You
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On Mon, April 1, 2013 7:08 am, Ho Wan Chan wrote:
http://ograblog.wordpress.com/2013/04/01/important-changes-in-ubuntu-engineering/
What on Earth is this? I need to PAY to upload packages
Look at the reply address on the bottom.
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consider it a warning.
I agree. A charge for contribution would make ubuntu vanish (or at least
become marginal) faster than a charge for use or download.
Personally, I would take as a joke with no intent or direction what so ever.
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On Thu, March 21, 2013 8:51 am, Joseph Ronne wrote:
Have experienced exactly the same thing on exactly the same machine. Has
disappeared since I reinstalled from the media with grub and recovery...
What same thing?
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I thought you might like to see this too. These are the changes I would
like to see in pulse.
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ASAP. Suitable meaning non-offensive and ok licence... once we are
that far, choosing a new backdrop is just a one line change in settings.
I would be happy to add in any merge requests.
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it to publish things and give
us feed back... we won't know.
Yes we want publishing.
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concern as things are booting so fast on modern machines. The only time we
see it is when booting from ISO. Also if MIR shows up by then it is a
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are merely not spending the
time to make any changes to it for 13.04
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- The photography slide mentions Darkroom, but there is no such program
in our menu. Is this talking about Darktable?
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On Sat, March 9, 2013 11:29 am, Len Ovens wrote:
The slide show in ubiquity:
- First and last slide use the current background prominently and should
be changed to reflect whatever new BG we use for lightdm or the session.
- The video slide may want to mention kdenlive
- The graphics
we have the resources to do that right now.
Even Xubuntu hasn't tried that and they have more people... and more
problems with trying to keep their ISO 700Mb.
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for some things, but not for
everything.
In theory, you would just add ~/.local/share/icons/theme_name
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as it is not out of place.
(in other words, Len should not be chosen to create a new theme... never
know what you will get)
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over,
or permanently.
Lets see, cdrecord (replaced by broken wodem), ffmpeg (replaced by avlib),
init.d (replaced by upstart or systemd), x I guess the next thing is a
unique, non-linux kernel...
I am sure the list is bigger.
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, or let the user choose.
First we need to make default do something logical... then it is ok to
worry about more than one setup :)
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On Mon, March 4, 2013 12:16 pm, Scott Lavender wrote:
+1 as well.
anything (almost) that reduces the delta is probably a good idea
I will start working on it next... if it make R or not remains to be seen.
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, if the service dbus wants to
send something to isn't running, it starts it... so the service can make
whatever changes and exit so it doesn't run all the time.
While the unity setup does come with reasonable (not the best IMO)
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formats are like that
- digital... IDK
I did a lot of testing on dual monitor stuff with an unpowered but
terminated video out.
So for me to test these things I need to know what live ISO can I try
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On Sun, March 3, 2013 9:52 am, Len Ovens wrote:
In my opinion it would be less confusing to have either a settings manager
or a settings submenu and not both. As there are some settings that seem
to be embedded in the settings manager, I would suggest going the same way
as xubuntu with just
.
That is a much better setup. I would like to find out how they do it and
if we can use it as is. If not we should create one (and add it to xfce)
The only difference I would like to see is bottoms aligned.
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to have a setup where there are two settings saved. A single
setting and a dual setting and xfce dynamically switches form one setting
to the other on hotplug.
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using 13.04 on my daily desktop stuff and some audio
testing as well. It has been pretty solid.
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Digital Art).
For those interested, I have added Krita to the seeds tonight. It will
also be part of the graphics meta (ubuntustudio-graphics).
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On Tue, February 26, 2013 10:03 am, Elizabeth Krumbach wrote:
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 6:20 AM, Len Ovens l...@ovenwerks.net wrote:
The packages are up to date. That is we do have xfce 4.10 for example.
I'm a bit confused here, Xubuntu 12.10 uses Xfce 4.10. Where does
Studio use 4.10
On Mon, February 25, 2013 1:29 am, Janne Jokitalo wrote:
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 08:27:51PM -0800, Len Ovens wrote:
We chose to use xubuntu as the base for ubuntu studio to ease
maintenance
issues. Hoping we could work with them to give both of us less work.
snip
[...] Studio is based
the love and care
of the original author :P (yes who is cantankerous and hard to get along
with, must be an artist, So what?) Maybe we have a reason to put cdrecord
into the ubuntu repos over wodim? I don't think the licence is that bad
from what I have heard. (I am not a lawyer :)
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On Sun, February 24, 2013 8:02 am, Shubham Mishra wrote:
On 02/24/2013 09:23 PM, Len Ovens wrote:
This morning, a user asked about krita and was given the normal reply
about us only including enough apps to cover workflows etc. No problem.
I
know we have not included KDE apps in the past
his package (way out of date BTW) and
examining the install scripts would be helpful. His PPA (if it is still
around) is:
ppa:shnatsel/gimp-paint-studio
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before wodem showed up either. Replacing a working
program with one that doesn't is just dumb.
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On Sun, February 24, 2013 11:57 am, Benjamin Turner wrote:
On 02/24/2013 09:44 AM, Len Ovens wrote:
My opinion is that integration is over rated :) Adding krita is 38Mb on
the ISO or so. I am downloading it now to try. I find mypaint hard to
use,
but that is mostly because
a taskbar, tray,
and window manager, but you can put
anything you want in the startup scripts.
DBUS seems to be one of those things we need to have. Not hard to add
though, I have managed to have a working dbus on just VTs with no X
session running.
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on my netbook so I can see what
differences there are and if we should make changes too.
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For those interested in my experiments.
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Subject: [LAU] light weight, full featured desktop for audio
From:Len Ovens l...@ovenwerks.net
Date:Tue, February 19, 2013 11:36 pm
To: linux audio users linux-audio-u
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