Re: [Wikimedia-l] Outcomes from the Consultation on Wikimedia movement conferences/Wikimania

Just to add my thoughts on this. I think the whole discussion is quite a novel situation in WMF-Community relations, as we have never dealt with an issue quite like this before. Firstly the good (and even though this section is shorter, it's just as significant): 1) The WMF is consulting and discu

[Wikimedia-l] Call for Candidates - Affiliate Selected members of the WMF Board

seats/2016 There is also a selection FAQ here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats_election_FAQ Many thanks, Chris Keating Lorenzo Losa Lane Rasberry - Election Facilitators ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

> > > I have some one question for you. > > I am having a very hard time wrapping my head around how the grant > information you posted lead to WMF BoT voting James Heilman of the board in > a vote of no-confidence. > Ruslan - what makes you think the two issues are connected? I have heard nothin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why take grants? (was: Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?)

> > > You raise a valid question: how many sources of funding does the Wikimedia > Foundation need? > The Bridgespan Group is a consultancy firm specialized in non-profits. They > have been hired > in the past by the Wikimedia Foundtion, for example in the period of > strategy formation that > led

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voting formula was Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

It would be good if the voting system was built to give a clear next best option in these circumstances. Simple positive voting, single transferable vote, and proportional Schulze would all do that. I wonder if there's any movement on the idea of a standing election committee to consider now how

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

Hi Ziko, The advantages and disadvantages are articulated here, though I have to say I wasn't aware of it until Patricio posted it just now. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_2015#2015_Foundation_Elections_Committee_thoughts_on_how_to_fill_the_vacancy_in_the_Boar

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board meeting January 30

> I am sure the agenda was prepared well in advance and before the events of > the last 48 hours; however, it should be noted that there are now *two* > open board seats (one community-selected, one Board-appointed). > Since the agenda is on Meta, I have been bold and changed "seat" to "seats" :-)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Changes in the Board

> > Throughout the discussion about the appointment of Arnnon Geshuri to the > Board of Trustees, the Board has carefully listened to you and discussed > internally. Earlier today, Arnnon decided to step down from the Board. To > paraphrase his words, he doesn't want to be a distraction for the imp

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

To me, "Hello" and "Thank you" are quite under-used words on this list (in the movement generally but particularly here) so I would prefer we didn't rule these emails out. After all, if we remove pile-on positive threads that contain little information then pile-on negative threads with equally li

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Offlist Re: In Support of Community

Ok, spot the idiot who can't send an offlist email offlist. On 13 Jan 2016 09:38, "Chris Keating" wrote: > That's what the Googleplex wants you to think! > On 13 Jan 2016 00:56, "Asaf Bartov" wrote: > > > (perhaps it would be nice to stop was

[Wikimedia-l] Offlist Re: In Support of Community

That's what the Googleplex wants you to think! On 13 Jan 2016 00:56, "Asaf Bartov" wrote: > (perhaps it would be nice to stop wasting everyone's time with this.) > >A. > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Nathan wrote: > > > I've written a guess on what Damon is hinting at. I will reveal thi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] In Support of Community

> > I hope this helps. :) > > Hi Damon - not really, it doesn't. If there is anything that you feel you can and should say publically (bearing in mind whatever confidentiality you have agreed to respect, or feel you should respect ) - then please say it. If there isn't - then please don't hint t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Conflict of Interest Policy

; not just referring to discussions related to a resolution. The executive > session of each board meeting is secret. > > On Monday, January 11, 2016, Chris Keating > wrote: > > > > I am concerned that Denny may not have been recusing from discussions > and > > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Conflict of Interest Policy

> I am concerned that Denny may not have been recusing from discussions and > decisions affecting Google. This strikes me as exceptional, and that the > board doesn't find it so troubles me, and hints that you may all have > something to gain from independent advice. Out of interest, do you know

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Conflict of Interest Policy

ost a link but you can Google it (so long as you declare the fact) Regards, Chris Keating On 10 Jan 2016 20:17, "Dariusz Jemielniak" wrote: > On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Anthony Cole wrote: > > > Dariusz, can you give me your reasons for ruling out an independent >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

d easily spend that just reading all the emails Dariusz has said the Board is looking into the situation with Arnnon, which they were clearly not aware of - that is what needs to happen and yet more emails on this list won't mean that happens a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you, Jan-Bart and Stu

I just wanted to add my thanks as well as both Jan-Bart and Stu have served the movement with a huge amount of dedication and commitment for many years and helped steer the WMF through many challenges. It has been a real pleasure to work with both of you. Thank you both for everything you have don

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

On 1 Jan 2016 21:56, "Joseph Fox" wrote: > > I imagine it would take something quite extraordinary for the board to > reject the community election result outright, as it happens. I would > assume the "nomination v selection" differential is to allow the board to > remove members without fear of b

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

> > BTW, it's more "community selected" than "community representative". There's an important distinction there. > Quite - all WMF trustees have identical responsibilities, regardless of which method of selection resulted in them being on the board. For instance Alice and Phoebe both served on th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

On 29 Dec 2015 01:17, "Todd Allen" wrote: > > Even if there are legal reasons that disclosure is not possible, a simple > statement to that effect ("For legal reasons, we cannot provide additional > information") should be at the very least forthcoming. > > If the removal was "not for cause", whic

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are we so boring?

Most Wikimedians are very interesting people. However Milos has hit the nail on the head when he says the most interesting things happening at Wikimedia events are 1-1 conversations. In my view we don't have a "personality" problem (and if we did, we couldn't fix it). What we have, at least in th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sick of the subject "(no subject)"

Possibly now is the time to draw a line under this conversation, as nothing productive is likely to come of it. On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Rjd0060 wrote: > On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 6:50 AM, K. Peachey wrote: > > > Each to their own I guess. > > > Yes, until people start getting put on modera

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Comments invited 2016 Affiliate Selected Board Seats process

that holds things up. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affiliate-selected_Board_seats#Provisional_timeline Please do continue to discuss on Meta. :) Chris On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Chris Keating wrote: > Hello, > > It is only a few months until someone will need to org

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banner (again)

t; > Thank you, > Lisa > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Chris Keating > > wrote: > > > Yes, I also thought that was interesting. To invert the presentation of > the > > statistics, 33% of users did mind the banners and 45% were irritated by > > them

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banner (again)

Yes, I also thought that was interesting. To invert the presentation of the statistics, 33% of users did mind the banners and 45% were irritated by them. These are actually quite high numbers in my view. (Not to say that the decision to proceed with these banners is wrong, which is a much more com

[Wikimedia-l] Comments invited 2016 Affiliate Selected Board Seats process

Hello, It is only a few months until someone will need to organise the 2016 Affiliate Selected Board Seats process. Thinking about the process last time I have set up a discussion here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affiliate-selected_Board_seats#Request_for_Comments_regarding_2016_process

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

I wondered if anyone from FDC is going to respond to this? On 26 Nov 2015 17:04, "Nicola Zeuner" wrote: > Thanks everyone - WMDE welcomes and follows with interest community > discussions about our proposal, the relevance of Wikidata and the use of > community funds. That's the beauty of a commun

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

On 25 Nov 2015 03:53, "Risker" wrote: > > Thank you, Nikki. Yes, about 70% of the costs were broken down, more or > less. But almost 30% - totalling over US$635,000 - is undifferentiated > "floating capacity" and "administrative costs". Those two amounts, which > are not broken down by program,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Conference 2016: Program Design Process and next steps

Thanks Nicole! Very glad to see a further increase in the level of focus of the Wikimedia Conference and in the streamlining of the planning process Chris On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Nicole Ebber wrote: > Dear Wikimedia friends, > > Following Christian’s invitation, I will now provide you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On toxic communities

Really interesting - thanks for sharing! On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 10:12 PM, Denny Vrandečić wrote: > Very interesting read (via Brandon Harris): > > > http://recode.net/2015/07/07/doing-something-about-the-impossible-problem-of-abuse-in-online-games/ > > "the vast majority of negative behavior ..

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect is gone

Yay! Great news about Superprotect's scrapping, also really good to hear the direction of travel on the development process. Chris On 5 Nov 2015 17:36, "Quim Gil" wrote: > Superprotect [1] was introduced by the Wikimedia Foundation to resolve a > product development disagreement. We have not use

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list

Since October 27th there have been 3 threads, all started by the same person, with a total of 5 posts . None of which said anything at all confidential. :) Chris On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Laurentius wrote: > At the end, is that mailing list currently active? > If it is, are you asking af

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list

Looking at the current (private) chapters' list, for at least a year 90%+ of the traffic has been announcements that were cross-posted to Wikimedia-l. The other 10% is invitations and requests addressed to "chapters people" that might be boring to most people on wikimedia-l but could have been publ

Re: [Wikimedia-l] help needed - Arkansas

Have forwarded on to the GLAM outreach mailing list as there seems to be a public library service behind this. (I would observe that edit count and ability to do outreach don't necessarily correlate that well - someone with a few hundred edits can be a great contact point for a cultural institutio

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

Hi Romaine, > And the outcome is ridiculous. This is not a compromise. The Italian WLM > team has been crashed under the weight and preponderance of the Wikimedia > Foundation. Well - it *is* a compromise. It isn't what you want and I think I understand your reasons for thinking it will have a ve

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

I can definitely understand your frustration, Romaine. However, if there is a strong operational reason why the Fundraising team can't move the activity they have planned for Italy in September, then I can't really see what resolution there can be except for sharing the banner space. Normally tho

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voting system (was: Results of 2015 WMF Board elections)

I basically agree with the whole of Risker's post but want to expand in this bit: On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Risker wrote: > There are not very many systems, though, > that are specifically designed to give multiple winners when one of the > conditions is that they *not* be running on a s

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Results of 2015 WMF Board elections

Congratulations to the new Board members - I am sure you will do a great job. And commiserations to those who will be leaving the Board - thank you for all your hard work over many years. Also it is good to see a much higher turnout in this year's elections than in 2013 - well done to those involv

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Not all pixels are created equals: introducing brand new Wikimedia France's metrics

I give this project FF out of a possible FF. On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Christophe Henner < christophe.hen...@gmail.com> wrote: > They are not free pixels. > > Only real free pixels deserve to be counted. > Le 1 avr. 2015 23:00, "Andrea Zanni" a écrit : > > > As always, every tool

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing Kourosh Karimkhany, Vice President of Strategic Partnerships

> I find the term "Advancement Department" has a somewhat Orwellian ring. > > It's quite a normal term in the USA. For instance, the Council for Advancement and Support of Education is the (global, but US-dominated) professional body for university fundraisers. Chris __

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

> > Curious question, by the way: how controversial would you expect this move > to be domestically? From e.g. a Swedish perspective, the NSA is an > intelligence agency of a foreign power and the other mentioned > organizations are either largely uncontroversial and seen in a positive > light (Amn

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF has lost its path

> > >>> My point is that reducing the number of anti WMF people in senior >>> positions on commons by one they might have converted some pro WMF people >>> in senior positions on commons to anti WMF people, producing more damage >>> for themselves than they hoped to create good. >>> >>> >> I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF has lost its path

> > >> My point is that reducing the number of anti WMF people in senior > positions on commons by one they might have converted some pro WMF people > in senior positions on commons to anti WMF people, producing more damage > for themselves than they hoped to create good. > I think if you're looki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF has lost its path

It's worth pointing out that the Board *are* responsible, even if they aren't involved in the actual decision-making - as they are ultimately responsible for everything WMF does. Personally I think the present solution is better than no solution, as cross-project disruption is not something the co

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia charity chairman resigns after pornography row

As people have said - repeatedly - a bunch of trolls have set up a google group mailing list that appears to be Wikimedia-l and subscribed lots of people to it. If you're subscribed then unsubscribe yourself and report it to Google. There are instructions in other messages. However, please *don't

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why WMF should reconsider the 3-month gender gap project-related decision

On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 12:09 PM, FRED BAUDER wrote: > On Thu, 8 Jan 2015 11:29:57 +0100 > Liam Wyatt wrote: > >> As this thread demonstrates, what discussions about the massive >> gender imbalance in Wikimedia editorship need is more men discussing why >> it >> might or might not be important.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why WMF should reconsider the 3-month gender gap project-related decision

Hi there, > That said, it doesn't matter who writes the content on Wikipedia so long > as it's relevant and factual. > Who is to decide what is relevant and factual (or indeed, the other editorial judgements we make in writing aricles)? If the only people doing that are white North American and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF is shutting down grantmaking for good projects for 3 months for no reason

Thanks for the details Siko! Going back to the original message in this thread - I would indeed be concerned if the WMF was shutting down grantmaking for good projects for 3 months for no good reason. However that's not really what's happening. It's more that non-urgent grantmaking is being postp

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF is shutting down grantmaking for good projects for 3 months for no reason

Like Bence, I would be interested to see how this kind of experiment in WMF grantmaking works out. And also like him I would be a little surprised if something like this is implemented with no notice period. A couple of responses to Lodewijk's post; > with people > confirming my fear that this w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Peter Southwood < peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote: > > OK, I was just wondering if acceptance of this form of marketing was an > American thing or more generally an English language thing. Obviously not > universally acceptable to English speakers, even in USA

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

Peter Southwood < > peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote: > > Are you by any chance American? > > Cheers, > > peter > > > > -Original Message- > > From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org > > [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikime

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

> Are you by any chance American? > Cheers, > peter > No, I'm English. :) Chris ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.o

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

I have to say, I don't see anything remotely objectionable in that email. Bold italicised text on a yellow background might not win any design awards but effective fundraising often doesn't win design awards.* I am not 100% sure how much donors care how soon our fundraiser ends (these days at leas

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising in the UK

Hi Nathan, On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Nathan wrote: > Wasn't there also an issue with WMUK processing payments, in that they > couldn't pass 100% of the donations on to the WMF but had to retain some or > most of the funds in order to remain independent under British law? We looked at thi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising in the UK

Also, if anyone's interested in the latest news on Wikimedia UK's governance, do have a look at our most recent governance audit - further info here: https://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2014/11/final-report-on-wikimedia-uk-governance-released/ Some quotes include; *“The charity has very largely addres

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] WikiCheese crowdfunding - Let's photograph 'em all

Which cheese do you use to coax a bear up a mountain? On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Pierre-Yves Beaudouin < pierre.beaudo...@wikimedia.fr> wrote: > > > Le 2014-12-04 14:57, Martijn Hoekstra a écrit : > > > On Dec 4, 2014 2:46 PM, "Jean-Frédéric" > wrote: > > Thanks again, I tried to remain bri

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] WikiCheese crowdfunding - Let's photograph 'em all

operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). > > > > *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control > > over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* > > > > On 29 November 2014 at 17:35, Chris Keating > > wrote: > > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] WikiCheese crowdfunding - Let's photograph 'em all

British cheese is better than its reputation suggests, if you know where to look. However British cheeses are difficult to distinguish from British breeds of pig. Gloucester Old Spot, Lincolnshire Poacher, Oxford Sandy and Black, Balcombe Brown Ring, Yarg, Mangalitsa - can you tell which is a pig a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2014 Evaluation Survey Results Posted!

Thanks Maria - really interesting to see such a thorough evaluation - as well as good to see very positive feedback for the event. I wondered out of curiousity if there was any discernable difference in responses between "long-term Wikimedians" and people with less previous exposure to the Wikimed

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why is bank transfer no longer possible?

Interestingly I've just received a fundraising email localised to the UK which doesn't offer any opportunity to give by direct debit. This is the main form of regular giving in the UK, and the alternative that is offered (regular gifts via credit card) is generally deprecated as it gives the donor

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Au Revoir from WMUK CEO

I'd like to add my own thanks to Jon - for doing so much to transform the scale and impact of Wikimedia UK's work over the last three years, and for your invaluable steadiness and tenacity in dealing with the very significant challenges that the chapter's faced during that time. Many best wishes

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the MediaWiki Stakeholder's Group

> > PS: Stakeholder's or Stakeholders? > Stakeholders or Stakeholders' would be correct. Stakeholder's implies there is one stakeholder only - presumably not the intention. The difference only matters to pedants with very good English, but worth getting right. Chris > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 7

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Finance Fellows to develop first-ever movement-wide financial report and metrics

> > > However, by keeping the team's formation a secret, and not involving the > Chapters' financial staff in the conceptualisation stage (even as advanced > warning), does not start the concept off with good will. While completely understanding the point you're making, I would mainly suggest not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Experimenting on Wikimedians

> > > Of course the stark reality is that A/B testing on users (typically >> readers, not editors) during the annual Wikimedia Foundation fundraiser >> has been a major component of the Wikimedia Foundation's growth. >> > > In part that's a myth. The income has been increased simply by making the

[Wikimedia-l] Movement boards' training and development needs

an use the assets we have to increase the training and support on offer to Wikimedia movement organisations. It would be good to centralise discussion of this here; https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Organisational_development#Boards_survey_results Thanks, Chris Keating (trustee of Wikim

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015

The word "Conference" doesn't in itself imply that an event is open or closed. C On 12 Sep 2014 13:06, "Ilario Valdelli" wrote: > But Wikimania is not only a Wikimedia Conference. > > It's a conference open to all people outside the Wikimedia movement. > > If the name should be as much as possib

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015

I was always a little surprised by the name Wikimedia Conference. After all, that name would most logically belong to the big, open, week-long event that draws over a thousand people together to talk about every aspect of the movement.* However, that event is already called Wikimania, which also d

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Coming to a wiki near you

> > > I'm approaching this thread with some trepidation, but would someone mind telling me more about this - or pointing to where this issue is already documented? (I have no idea how to navigate Bugzilla ;) ) > 2. Specifically it appears that MV breaks CC-BY-SA-3.0. Details on > Bugzilla. > > R

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

On 14 Aug 2014 14:50, "David Cuenca" wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:35 PM, David Gerard wrote: > > > A pattern we see over and over is that the developers talk at length > > about what they're working on in several venues, then it's released > > and people claiming to speak for the communit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Options for the German Wikipedia

> Does either of you or anyone else see a valid reason to deny this > seemingly reasonable and considered request? It's quite obvious that hacks > to achieve the same ends are far from ideal. Why not simply disable > MediaViewer by default on the German Wikipedia, as requested? > In my view, the t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Options for the German Wikipedia

> > > > A decision about how the public consumes Wikipedia content (e.g., Media > Viewer) is an editorial decision, and it's one that the WMF has chosen to > make unilaterally. WMF has furthermore moved to give its staff rights that > facilitate unilateral behavior in the future. But to the degree

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Options for the German Wikipedia

> > I think the most helpful thing would be to not attempt to start wars, and > particularly not on behalf of anyone or against individuals. We are all on > the same side here: trying to make the projects (and the project > interfaces, as a part of that) better. That includes, for instance, trying

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

> > It is clear to me that the Foundation has agreed on this sneaky change > behind closed doors while some of the most outspoken Wikimedia > volunteers were (and still are) gathered in London. It's interesting you mention Wikimania, because one of the things I took away from the conference was t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Insights of the Chapters Dialogue are online!

All we have to do now is answer some of those questions! On 9 Aug 2014 15:22, "Pierre-Selim" wrote: > Thank you so much to everyone involve in work. It's awesome! > > > 2014-08-09 14:29 GMT+02:00 Nicole Ebber : > > > Hi all, > > > > we have just published the Chapters Dialogue movie. 1 year conde

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bitcoin now accepted, but there are privacy concerns

In that case how would the Foundation tell if someone made a number of donations of under $1k that were declarable in aggregate? Hi Lisa, I admit I am not an expert in U.S. tax law, so I could be entirely misinterpreting it. But my read of the IRS instructions are that donors who donate more than

[Wikimedia-l] Movement Board training workshop - last spaces available!

Hi all, A handful of spaces are still left for the Wikimedia movement Boards training workshop on 7 August. This would be great for anyone on a Chapter or Thematic Organisation board who wants to make best advantage of Wikimania to sharpen their governance skills. Further details https://meta.wi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMCON14 - Feedback evaluation & financial overview

Hi Wenke, Many thanks for this, it's very useful reading! I wonder if there is any more detail about each of the individual sessions. Not everyone attended each session so it would be interesting to see how each session was evaluated by the people who were present (either numerically or with comm

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interest in a community strategic planning meeting?

> > > > I expect this would be an interesting meeting if people are interested in > participating, and I hope that we would brainstorm some ideas about how we > want to move forward on all of these questions and others if we have time. > Hi Pine, I think it would be much more productive to think

[Wikimedia-l] Thoughts on the affiliate-selected Board seats process

I have jotted down a few notes on the recent process for the selection by movement affiliates of Foundation board members. As you might recall, the result of this year's process was announced last week. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affiliate-selected_Board_seats Please join in if you have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikiconference USA in the media

It's interesting how much this thread reinforces what Sumana said in her keynote at the conference! Chris On 8 Jun 2014 08:15, "Craig Franklin" wrote: > As someone who usually wears a suit and tie to Wikimedia events when I go > (Hong Kong last year was the exception to that for the most part, w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikiconference USA in the media

Hi Fae, In your email of 16.31 today, you did indeed ask how many employees were "supporting the conference". What was your intention in asking that question if not to get the answer Pharos has given you? C On 7 Jun 2014 18:27, "Fæ" wrote: > On 07/06/2014, Pharos wrote: > ... > > This was an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

> > Whatever "the right to be forgotten" may turn out to be, it's not > about publication of previously unpublished information. Ergo, it's > not about "invasion of privacy," broadly speaking. The opinion makes > clear that one can publish true, accurate, already-published > information and neverth

[Wikimedia-l] ASBS results

e who participated in the selection process, and particularly Alice Wiegand for her two years of service on the WMF Board. Regards, Chris on behalf of James Hare, Lorenzo Losa and Chris Keating, election facilitators ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guide

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

> > > > I don't believe Wikipedia could be a data controller as it has no legal > > personality, and legal personality is quite difficult to acquire when you > > set out to avoid acquiring it. > > On this point I must disagree. > I'd be interested to hear why :-) I think also though that if edito

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Mike Godwin wrote: > Chris writes: > > > As I understand it, the "right to be forgotten" will only affect the > > discoverability of content, rather than existence of content. > > > > So if we rely on a source which says that person X did Y many years ago, > > and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Right to be forgotten

As I understand it, the "right to be forgotten" will only affect the discoverability of content, rather than existence of content. So if we rely on a source which says that person X did Y many years ago, and X succeeds in invoking their "right to be forgotten", then the source will no longer appea

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia movement affiliates liaisons

Thanks AffComm - it is great to see this moving forward. I have added this info to the Organisational Development page on Meta; http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Organisational_development Chris On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Gregory Varnum wrote: > Greetings, > > Based on continuing changes

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Participating on Wikipediocracy

On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 8:51 AM, ENWP Pine wrote: > I will say, in Lila's defense, that I've been impressed with what I've > seen of her in public. (: > > However, Wil, I agree with points others have made. I'm concerned that > you're going to create drama with what you're doing here, and make Li

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COM:IDENT?

Though in this case it does seem that Commons has given sound advice that any photos submitted should be accompanied by a model release. If only more photos on Commons had model releases! On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Chris Keating wrote: > > @Risker: I was thinking the same, he

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COM:IDENT?

> @Risker: I was thinking the same, hence my disagreement with Odder's > decision. But I've visited the linked website (NSFW) and one can only > assume that the person on the pictures is fully aware of the implication of > said photos on the internet and willing to see them diffused. I don't thin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Please welcome Lila Tretikov, the Wikimedia Foundation's new ED

Congratulations, Lila! On 1 May 2014 20:49, "Frans Grijzenhout" wrote: > Welcome Lila, hope to meet you in person in London. And thanks to Jan-Bart > & the other members of the transition team. I will forward this great news > to the Dutch board & community. > Frans Grijzenhout > > > 2014-05-01 2

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Organizational development for the Wikimedia movement

gt; > > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/User:AStillwell_(WMF) - about > > > this? > > > > > She seems a natural person to include in your discussions and > > > thinking. > > > > > Having worked with her some, I think she'll have

[Wikimedia-l] Organizational development for the Wikimedia movement

Hi all, I've started a page on Meta which I hope will act as a hub for documentation and ideas around the training and development needs of Wikimedia movement organisations: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Organisational_development I'd ask anyone who's interested in this kind of thing to have a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How Wikimedia could help languages to survive

I'd certainly take quite a broad view of which languages fulfill our mission. Certainly I wouldn't be comfortable with arguments as simple as "All people who speak Y also read X, so there's no purpose putting resources into Y". Wikimedia UK does little work with Gaelic, but quite a bit with Welsh;

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

This would be an interesting discussion to have in the next movement strategy process. I can see the attraction of doing this, but much better to think about it alongside questions like "what are our collective goals", "how much money do we want to have" and the like. Regards, Chris On 15 Apr 20

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ASBS sessions update

mailing > list I believe... > -- > Christophe > > > On 14 April 2014 17:50, Cristian Consonni wrote: > > Il 14/apr/2014 17:48 "Chris Keating" ha > > scritto: > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > However, I believe the quest

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ASBS sessions update

> > > However, I believe the questions were noted to be sent to some of the > candidates, perhaps a good way would be to republish them and ask them > to answer on meta ? Good idea. I've done this for two questions aimed at all of the candidates. Thanks, Chris __

[Wikimedia-l] ASBS sessions update

after 15 April (tomorrow) and organisations have until 31 May to cast votes. Many thanks, Chris Keating ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communications Patterns Around the World

On 9 Apr 2014 18:00, "Sue Gardner" wrote: > > I stumbled across this last night and laughed out loud for a very long > time. You mean to say, you thought it was quite interesting? ;) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fuck the community, who cares

Just to clarify that I don't believe Tomasz, the original poster, was trolling. You, Ashley, have been doing so spectacularly :) On 7 Apr 2014 16:50, "Fæ" wrote: > No. You may want to look at > > this does not include keeping

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