Re: (313) techno rebels/more brilliant than the sun
reminds me: wasn't there supposed to be a Rough Guide to Techno out as well? is it available domestically (USA that is)? sean never thought that being in the book business would be helpful here. official release date, as of seeing the rough guide catalog for spring/summer 2000 is 1 june. all major distributors show it as on order, they usually begin to show on order quantities about 2 months before dute date, so it makes perfect sense. *cha-cha-cha* shannon by collapsing concept into matter, the mental into the material, the rekkid [sic] functions in 2 parallel systems: as a concept visualized on vinyl as punishing frequencies, orchestrally arranged Techno, sepulchral frosted, a Rhythmachine of planetary information. --kodwo eshun synthetic fiction/electronic thought _more brilliant than the sun: adventures in sonic fiction_
Fw: (313) Subject: Re: SV: (313) track id
In regards to the person who asked the question about Slam Dance, the answer is yes. Mr. Fingers EP [ML-2206] [1987] Format: 12 vinyl Side A: Slam Dance [4:58] Stars [4:56] Side B: Waterfall [5:20] For So Long [5:18] Larry Heard - Original Message - From: stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ea rinon [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 2:20 AM Subject: Re: (313) Subject: Re: SV: (313) track id ea rinon wrote: Wasn't the old Chicago house label pronounced Play House Records ? yes,but on the records label itself it one word I see what your saying, I was reading the label logo off the record and it's written as: Play House Records what i'm talking about is not the track I M N X T C , but a diffrent track by her called: doing it properly is Xtc (phr - 416) were the beat track from no way back are used with the lyrics from IMNXTC don't know who were first Adonis or Motto interesting, her twist on do it properly. Speaking of Chicago classics did Larry Heard ever release a track called Mr. Fingers - Slam Dance on his Alleviated label? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313)Real Audio
www.flyfm.net - Original Message - From: K To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 10:47 AM Subject: (313)Real Audio Hi all, I was just wondering if anyone could point me to some real audio sites..i know of the womb, groovetech and beta lounge..any others that come recommended??? also i know of that site that has the deep house mixes.anyone have the address??? Thanks, K
car rental deal found!
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Re: (313)Real Audio (also: Track Identify :)
- Original Message - From: K I was just wondering if anyone could point me to some real audio sites..i know of the womb, groovetech and beta lounge..any others that come recommended??? also i know of that site that has the deep house mixes.anyone have the address??? http://313.sigma6.com/ You'll find some interesting stuff here. There's a Planet E mix by Dj Horsepower, and I think it contains some of that deep house you mentioned, IMO. :) http://313.sigma6.com/assets/audio/planetEmix.ram Also, I don't know if I've asked this earlier, but could someone identify the track which starts at about 28.00:00? J Jussi Lehtonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.netppl.fi/~sandman Do not allow yourself to be programmed. For once, in your life, take control. Take control. - UR
Re: (313) The Rough Guide To Techno
-Original Message- From: Tim Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sherman (former editor of Melody Maker's dance section) is this the same guy who used to write for NME (Sherman at the controls)back in 90-93 ? if it is you could not find a better person to write about the evolution of techno,i still keep all his record reviewscliping from NME here somewere,he was the first to talk about UR in the uk press as well as writing about the early Blackdog,Afx,Djax,Fnac,Orb,Fuse etc didn't know he went to MM from there e,r
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Re: (313) Subject: Re: SV: (313) track id
The reason I asked is because I can see Mr. Fingers - Slam Dance faintly in the background on his Disco-D EP. thanks for the link, looking at the catalog on the Alleviated web site looks like slam dance was released after Disco-D so I guess my record wasn't the original pressing. the 4 trax on the us release are on the Amnesia double album too! thats the one album I dont have by heard, wish i could find the CD version. peace. stephen. ea rinon wrote: -Original Message- From: stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Speaking of Chicago classics did Larry Heard ever release a track called Mr. Fingers - Slam Dance on his Alleviated label? yes it's ml 2206(slam dance,stars,waterfallfor so long) i heard Craig once said this is the first techno record he's heard there's uk pressing on jack trax too,it has one diffrent track then the us pressing (acid attack) so it's worthwhile trying to find both of them. the 4 trax on the us release are on the Amnesia double album too! i recently discovered an Alleviated site on the web,looks like Heard is restarting the label http://home.att.net/~alleviated/index.html/index.html strangly enough,alot of the stuff he had on other labels,is listed there with his cat #'s,so i suppose it's all gonna be rereleased like this? (wishfull thinking),i tried e-mailing but never got a response,so maybe Javier could shed some light on what is exactly hapening e,r
Re: (313) The Rough Guide To Techno
Am I correct in thinking that this is the same Sherman who does Electrocuted at The Dogstar in Brixton? -Original Message- From: Tim Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sherman (former editor of Melody Maker's dance section) __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: (313) OT: Italo Disco
One CD compilation series that is quite respected among true Italo-disco fans, is the Legend series. If I remember correctly they were made in Holland, and were bootlegs. Check for more info: www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/9692/legend/Legend-E.html Cheesiness is part of the Italo disco sound, but yet there's so much good obscure freak stuff, that when your hear it, you start to understand where the whole HOTMIX-sound takes it's inspiration. Italo disco collectors are quite serious collectors, willing to pay huge money if a rare record comes to sight... But the stuff I'm into, the freak early eighties stuff is not that expensive, and should be found easily. Make connections to collectors in Europe, and ask. Proffit From: _Caltrop _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) OT: Italo Disco Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:44:16 PDT I was looking for something like that, too. But oftentimes there's a lot of cheese on these CD's. But you could get a picture of the mainstream italo disco sound, if you remember chart hits such as Vamos a la playa, I like chopin, self control. I think I-f's new mix CD showcases the more obscure italo stuff. somebody has to put these tracks on wax again, please my fave ones (in general) are: Charlie- Spacer Woman Electric Workers - Robot is Systematic Lime - On the Grid X-ray connection - Get Ready... (more ones are yet to be (re)discovered) From: Ian Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Mailing List 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT: Italo Disco Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 07:24:39 +1000 A month or so back there was a discussion of Italo Disco from the early 80s. I s there a representative CD compilation that anyone could recommend that gives an overview of the sound of this style? __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: (313) new background release: f.e.#002
b a c k g r o u n d m i n i m a l m u s i c r e c o r d i n g s p r e s e n t s : f u t u r i s t i c e x p e r i m e n t s c h a p t e r II artists: kit clayton * sutekh * submania * stewart walker 12 featuring four deep futuristic experimental 4/4 pieces that are guaranteed to - jack your body extand your mind!!! ranging from experimental techno, to dubby minimalism and dark droning sinister 4/4 works to moody detroit techno-influences all packed on one handy 12 which is not to be missed by any chance. w o r l d w i d e e x c l u s i v e d i s t r i b u t i o n: neuton.: fx: ++49.69.82974450 - release date.: 5/29/00 label-contact: press/promotion/demos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Techno Rebels
As for Peter Shapiro and The Wire, I don't what to say, except for the fact that he edited the recent and particularly dreadful Rough Guide to Drum n' Bass Music. So there. :P That's the same guy who also dissed the CoS album, isn't it...? (Sorry, couldn't resist ;) Something more on-topic: saw DJ Assault's 'Belle Isle Tech' (Mo' Wax) in a local record store - worth purchasing? And is the vinyl version unmixed...? It's interesting that UK dance mags seem to have now all gone into Ghetto Bass... Peace from an arctic cat, e. rautio, also known as pHinn * the webmaster of pHinnWeb - the old skool, the nu skool * * and the pHuture skool of Finnish electronic music * * [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.sci.fi/~phinnweb * http://www.sci.fi/~phinnweb/flyers/trebass/ [060500]
Re: (313) OT: Italo Disco
Here it is available at CDNOW and it's only $12.99, I remember this stuff from way back in High School, what a trip VA-Italo Golden Classics: Italo Golden Classics Disc1 01.People From Ibiza - Sandy Marton 02.Happy Station - Fun Fun 03.Chance To Desire - Radiorama 04.Don't Cry Tonight - Savage 05.Lover To Lover - Joe Yellow 06.How Old Are You - Miko Mission 07.Japanese War Game - Koto 08.Touch Me - 49Ers 09.Hey Hey Guy - Ken Laszlo 10.To Meet Me - Den Harrow 11.The Night - Valerie Dore 12.I.C. Love Affair - Gaz Nevada Disc2 01.Happy Children - P. Lion 02.Another Life - Kano 03.Shanghai - Lee Marrow 04.Feel The Drive - Doctor's Cat 05.Disco Band - Scotch 06.Stop Bajon (Primavera) - Tullio De Piscopo 07.Lady Fantasy - Max Him 08.Going Back To My Roots (Rich In Paradise) - FPI Project 09.Dolce Vita - Ryan Paris 10.Kalimba De Luna - Tony Esposito 11.Pulstar - Hipnosis 12.Talking To The Night - Brian Ice Date: Oct 11, 1996 Label: ZYX Category: Italian
041200 Emerald Nights program
Tonight's special guest at Forans will be Fire-Breathing (for those who know) MEIGHEN HENRY. Fan of IDM, ambient, and experimental tunes.. Meighen Henry joins the unintentionally slanted roster of only 2 female DJs who will have performed at this event. Why is that? : Go Meighen. Interested parties apply within http://www.protocolstack.net dj Horsepower Resident --
Re: (313) Techno Rebels
In a message dated 4/12/00 6:32:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's interesting that UK dance mags seem to have now all gone into Ghetto Bass... Not just UK. Spin, Details and Rolling Stone US all got on the bandwagon last year. Thank God the hype is over now. I think that white, middle-class prurient interest in stereotypical Black salaciousness is part of what fuels ghettotech (as well as driving mainstream rap and rb sales into the millions), along with the sense it makes: Detroit is a ghetto city right ? So here we have ghetto music. Now THAT'S a journalistic hook. What could be simpler than Ass Titties ? None of the contradictory preppy Black world-travelled educated romantic electronic futurism (and in UR's case, cultural terrorism) of Detroit Techno. Intelligent brothers ? Perish the thought. Sicko was telling me during the course of his writing Techno Rebels that his editor couldn't believe that all these preppy, college-bound, Italo disco-listening, standard-English speaking Black kids from well-off families were in Detroit in the 80s. Fuck Charivari: where were the guns and drugs ? Say Nice Things About Detroit. a. www.puresonikrecords.net
RE: (313) The Rough Guide To Techno
You are correct in this assumption. Sherman also has a label Cloak and Dagger which has Tales from the Woodshed amongst its roster. Can't really recommend any of it's releases though, and I wasn't really that impressed with his choice of records in his DJ stint during my 1 visit to Electrocuted. But I agree that his review column in NME and MM was always worth reading. Can I also line up in the queue to diss Peter Shapiro's Rough Guide to Drum'n'Bass. It appears to be a forum in which he propogates his distorted view of the history of DB. Matt. -Original Message- From: Nick Craddock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 April 2000 09:16 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) The Rough Guide To Techno Am I correct in thinking that this is the same Sherman who does Electrocuted at The Dogstar in Brixton?
synthetic transmission (audio)
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Re: (313) track id
In reply to James Bucknell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could be Green Velvet Land of the Lost from the Destination Unknown EP on Belgian label Music Man. There's also a fine set of remixes (featuring a stormer from Ian Pooley I believe) on the same label. Neither will disappoint!! Respect, Niall.
Re: (313)Real Audio
Yeah, the one and only original Deep House Heaven: www.biostat.wisc.edu/~rose/house/index.htm Proffit From: K [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313)Real Audio Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:47:28 -0500 Hi all, I was just wondering if anyone could point me to some real audio sites..i know of the womb, groovetech and beta lounge..any others that come recommended??? also i know of that site that has the deep house mixes.anyone have the address??? Thanks, K __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: (313) Techno Rebels
Why not buy the originals instead? I looked at the tracklisting on it, and it seemed like the comp. was a collection of the 12 hits from Assault's label It's always something trendy that the mags wanna cash on, be it Detroit, Chicago, Ghetto BASS etc... Funnily there has not been a Ghetto houz -mania on those papers as I can recall, few mentions of Dance Mania and DJ Funk but that's about it. Maybe it's because IT IS quite extreme culture; couple of labels and the most hostile minimal music that no average listener understands... Wonder if they can manage to link MIAMI BASS to the current BASS hype;) Proffit From: Erkki Rautio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org (Detroit Mon Amour) Subject: Re: (313) Techno Rebels Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 13:30:12 +0300 (EET DST) Something more on-topic: saw DJ Assault's 'Belle Isle Tech' (Mo' Wax) in a local record store - worth purchasing? And is the vinyl version unmixed...? It's interesting that UK dance mags seem to have now all gone into Ghetto Bass... Peace from an arctic cat, e. rautio, also known as pHinn * the webmaster of pHinnWeb - the old skool, the nu skool * * and the pHuture skool of Finnish electronic music * * [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.sci.fi/~phinnweb * http://www.sci.fi/~phinnweb/flyers/trebass/ [060500] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
books - paradise garage
as we're talking books, thought some of you might be interested in the following book due out soon: My Life and The Paradise Garage: Keep On Dancin' by Mel Cheren, Gabriel Rotello This item will be published on May 1, 2000. Editorial Reviews Michael Paoletta, Dance Music Editor, Billboard Magazine. Stonewall. Gay Liberation. The early days of disco. The Paradise Garage. AIDS. House Music. Finally, a New York Story that is captivating, intriguing, and educational. The sights and sounds of Manhattan will never be the same. Edmund White, author of The Farewell Symphony This book is about the every night fever of disco in the 1970s, the splendors and miseries of the A-List-and the brilliant social and musical innovations of Mel Cheren, fantasy impresario of that delirious epoch. Book Description Keep on Dancin' is the story of the rise and fall of the legendary Paradise Garage, the underground disco that was ruled by the greatest DJ of all time and rivaled only by Studio 54 in its soulful and decadent magnificence. Set against the passionate love affair of two men who would both eventually rate as two of New York City's greatest style and scene makers, the story traces the hypnotic birth of disco, the Garage inspired technical innovations that changed the music industry, the erotic life... read more From the Publisher Cheren, though respected for his record label, is loved by many for making possible one of the world's most revered nightclubs, The Paradise Garage. He was the financial backer for the club which was owned and operated by his former partner, Michael Brody. During the Garage years, Cheren's relationship with the club's influential DJ Larry Levan blossomed, resulting in some of the most memorable records to come out of the late Seventies and early Eighties. (A collection of these digitally... read more About the Author MEL CHEREN began his career in the music business in 1959 at ABC-Paramount Records As head of production for Scepter Records, Cheren forged new territory: He was instrumental not only in creating the first 12 single for DJs, in forming the first record pool (The New York Record Pool-later to become For The Record Record Pool) and the first to release an instrumental mix on a 12 B-side (We're On The Right Track by Ultra High Frequency). This innovation earned Cheren and Scepter a Billboard... read more pre orders currently been taken at amazon! take care jason
Re: (313) tunes
the shawn rudiman--is that the 10 inch? it seemed really slow to me, but i guess i should try it on 45. james Tom Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/12/2000 08:42:20 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Shawn Rudiman - Blue Empire EP (Hypervinyl: HV003) Four tracks of quality deep techno from Mr Rudiman who recently released an excellent EP on Seventh City. All the cuts are pacy and club-orientated but pack serious funk into the grooves - I'm playing 'Impromptu' pitched down. Definitely a talent to watch. : - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SWANK sundays staring 4.30.00
SWANK is a no bullshit, show up, listen to good music, drink beer, sunday night gig. it is starting 4.30.00 at the Token Lounge in Westland at the corner of Joy Rd and Middlebelt. In case you were wondering, Quiet Riot played at this venue a couple of months back. I scoped out the place a few times when the owner came to me and wanted me to do this night. it is actually pretty cool inside with two rooms for me to book dj's. it actually has pretty decent potential for those of us that can't make it to Tonic on sundays to see TP play. I am basically booking local dj's and that's it. the goal for the night is for people top show up, relax and have some fun. in the main room there is going to be house and techno, of course. the second room is basically the whatever the hell i want room. mainly i will be booking hip-hop, dancehall, and drum and bass dj's for that room. it has a pool table a couple dart boards and Golden Tee '99 golf game there. so if you don't really feel like dancing, there are other things to do. the cost to get in is as follows: Ladies get in for FREE!, for everyone else it is $7. if you are over 21 though you will receive a FREE drink ticket worth $4. so technically you only pay $3. if you are under 21 it is just $7. i am trying to get those prices down, but it is not entirely up to me. the lineup for the first five weeks are: 4.30.00 Michael Geiger in the main room JB (hip-hop) second room Kruse Kontrol (db) second room 5.7.00 Mike Huckaby Junior Warner (dancehall) second room 5.14.00 Keith Kemp Ronin (db) second room Dj Heavy (hip-hop) second room 5.21.00 Eric Hinchman Mark EP (hip-hop) second room Matt Clarke (db) 5.28.00 Keith Worthy G-Swing (hip-hop) second room* Len Swan (hip-hop) second room* * Due to scheduling conflicts G-Swing and Len Swan may or may not be there. After i submitted the info for the flyer, they notified me that they might no be able to make it. they have something booked that they are trying to get out of. they might not be able to, though. *if they can't make it i am going to have HOUSE SHOES come in and play. if Swing and Swan cannot make it they will be there the next week. i will keep you guys posted on the developement of that situation. thank you for your time -craig gonzalez-
Re: (313) Techno Rebels
What's interesting to me is not so much the cultural angle.but the fact that they jumped on Ghetto Tech (which is just a more sped up version of miami bass music) oh about...14 years after the fact as far as i can reckon. --- Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph.D. Candidate in American Politics University of Michigan Strive for excellence in all you do, that no fault may be found in your character ---
RE:techno rebels/more brilliant than the sun
There's a book out in the UK called Rough guide to American Music ( or something similar) Guess who's on page 313? only a certain Mr Mills Stu
SUBURBAN KNIGHT nyc
Saturday 15th 2000 TrooSkool @ Flamingo 219 2nd ave. btwn 13th and 14th, east village, NYC featuring: Suburban Knight aka James Pennington Underground REsistance from tha D... along with residents kimyon aka k-money richb aka the erradicator and vikAs aka ez-v come troo y'all...its been a crazy few months but were pluggin along... big up to bileebobb and Paris the Black Fu hecklejeckle who came out and represented last week...much love for those CRAZY crows... upcoming: sat. 22 unfortunately T-1000 decided to cancel, but instead Dan Bell aka DBX will be playing and releasing his upcoming CD... sat 29 Abacus aka A:xus guidance records peace... viKas FOUNDATION
new random noise generation
tonight on Detroit Influence: new Random Noise Generation, new Munchman, and a brand new KMS release, come check it out.:) Detroit Influence is aired on www.flyfm.net on wednesday evenings from 6-8 pm, cst. Dave G.
Re: (313) Techno Rebels--miami bass-ghetto tech etc.
In a message dated 4/12/00 11:31:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's interesting to me is not so much the cultural angle.but the fact that they jumped on Ghetto Tech (which is just a more sped up version of miami bass music) oh about...14 years after the fact as far as i can reckon. Who jumped on it? Music magazines(doing their job to stay hip) that have had dj's, labels, and good promoters pushing it to them and the suburban buying masses of club kids(white and black)for years-- whether it is worthy of a grain of salt or not. I haven't heard any musicians talkin' about it, other than to dismiss it as the Brittney Spears of synthesis. Who cares anyways, if people are buyin' sell it- that's capitalism. Isn't it? Re: Bass and Booty--- apples and oranges--- very different in ways other than pitch. Some bass patters were actually complicated and certainly explored tonal quality and lo-end frequencies ways that were never done before. Remember the car shows with frequencies dropping below the bar--an interesting experiment-- certainly moreso than ass and tities as ghetto tech explores. I'll take Davis and Coltrane with Evans in a smoke-filled lounge over either anytime,but that's just a matter of taste. I think the first Feel the Bass series did penetrate the burbs all those years ago with much much hype- It replaced kool moe dee and depeche mode as my most played for a while when I was in Jr. High in a little town in texas.
1 TRAK Wednesdays
Hey all! Just a quick reminder that 1 TRAK kicks off our weekly Wednesday night at the historical and classy Times Square Loft in Waterloo. Just a quick thanks to everyone that has supported us, made our 'trial' 2 weeks a success, because of you we have Wednesdays locked down (not Fridays like we hoped, but Wednesdays seemed to work real well). Anyways Thanks. Tonight at 1 TRAK: Deeno [Sangha, Bloom!] -- House Matt Van Beers [K-Town] -- House $5 admission, drink specials, and you can actually buy pints ;) Anyways hope to see some of you guys/gals out! Pieces.. 'Michigan' Myke [1 TRAK Resident] __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Network + Ten Records
I was wondering if anyone had any information on these UK labels. They had a lot to do with inner city and Saunderson, I think they were based in Birmingham, and I would greatly appreciate any info: discography's websites etc, reply privately if you want. Ben
Re: (313) Techno Rebels
Yea, I remember buying bass magnetic by Aux 88 back in 94' or 95 and to me it just sounded like DJ Magic Mike with a little Cybotron influence. Remember those cheesy Bass CD's people would buy in the late 80's early 90's when it was like popular to have a lowrider with 19 woofers, you would hear nothing but 808 bass and distorted hi-hats. Lester Kenyatta Spence wrote: What's interesting to me is not so much the cultural angle.but the fact that they jumped on Ghetto Tech (which is just a more sped up version of miami bass music) oh about...14 years after the fact as far as i can reckon. --- Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph.D. Candidate in American Politics University of Michigan Strive for excellence in all you do, that no fault may be found in your character --- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Techno Rebels--miami bass-ghetto tech etc.
On Wed, 12 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/12/00 11:31:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's interesting to me is not so much the cultural angle.but the fact that they jumped on Ghetto Tech (which is just a more sped up version of miami bass music) oh about...14 years after the fact as far as i can reckon. Who jumped on it? Music magazines(doing their job to stay hip) that have had dj's, labels, and good promoters pushing it to them and the suburban buying masses of club kids(white and black)for years-- whether it is worthy of a grain of salt or not. I haven't heard any musicians talkin' about it, other than to dismiss it as the Brittney Spears of synthesis. Who cares anyways, if people are buyin' sell it- that's capitalism. Isn't it? What I find interesting is the argument that this music is NEW. There's an interesting racial angle in there.it doesn't exist until large groups of whites listen to it. So the first article I read about the music deals with a white DJ who happened to go to school here at Michigan, then left after he blew up I think. The first article I read about house IN THE CHICAGO PAPERS was in 1991over ten years at LEAST after it'd been created. This is not a new phenomenon, but interesting nonetheless. Re: Bass and Booty--- apples and oranges--- very different in ways other than pitch. Some bass patters were actually complicated and certainly explored tonal quality and lo-end frequencies ways that were never done before. Give me an exampleit seems to me that BOTH grew out of Detroit technoI recall TECHNICOLOR being used for the backdrop of one of 2 Live Crew's early songs. Ghetto tech is more of a fusion between Miami and Technobut this makes them different types of APPLES, rather than apples on the one hand and oranges on the other. I'll take Davis and Coltrane with Evans in a smoke-filled lounge over either anytime,but that's just a matter of taste. I'm the same waybut I don't know too many house heads that can roll with either subgenre.. peace lks
belt driven decks,no efxs,909? yes please
Umm, I've finally decided to release my final mix CD in time for the Detroit Music Festival, for all yeah waiting for the scoop on this one, I will start it off with two minutes of complete silence in which I will illustrate the spacial dynamics of sound not really being heard, the texture momentum of our frequency range as a human being which I might add is between 20 hrz to 20,000 hrz will fluently be explored, I plan on adding frequency ranges to which only neighbouring yard animals or personal pets would be able to fully understand, I find that exploring these organic sounds to the extent that...really forced geeky sample hey guys can I play my synth here? will fully compress the sound dynamics that I've been searching for, my drive to find new ways of finding patterns within, within, within patterns will leave most of you banging your hands for no particular reason, waiting to order something at McDonalds...do look for my new way of making ya'll move at the Festival cuz I plan on staying there (in one spot) for captains log start date 9383 rounded off to the neareast decimal point, we've travel... the entire 3 days...=) now that's inovation =) Emanuel
Re: (313) belt driven decks,no efxs,909? yes please
Take another hit off the bong. Umm, I've finally decided to release my final mix CD in time for the Detroit Music Festival, for all yeah waiting for the scoop on this one, I will start it off with two minutes of complete silence in which I will illustrate the spacial dynamics of sound not really being heard, the texture momentum of our frequency range as a human being which I might add is between 20 hrz to 20,000 hrz will fluently be explored, I plan on adding frequency ranges to which only neighbouring yard animals or personal pets would be able to fully understand, I find that exploring these organic sounds to the extent that...really forced geeky sample hey guys can I play my synth here? will fully compress the sound dynamics that I've been searching for, my drive to find new ways of finding patterns within, within, within patterns will leave most of you banging your hands for no particular reason, waiting to order something at McDonalds...do look for my new way of making ya'll move at the Festival cuz I plan on staying there (in one spot) for captains log start date 9383 rounded off to the neareast decimal point, we've travel... the entire 3 days...=) now that's inovation =) Emanuel __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: (313) Techno Rebels--miami bass-ghetto tech etc.
a piece from a feature on Detroit's Mike Grant from Cognition (http://techno.ca/cognition) re: the use of Technicolor: 1985 looked to be Grant's year in Detroit, but before things had started to fall into place in his DJ career, he had already made the decision to join the military. While in the forces, Grant DJed as often as he could wherever he was stationed, and while in Seattle inadvertently managed to work a little bit of Detroit into a certain rumpshaker from the city's Sir Mix A Lot. I wanted to remain involved in the music while I was in the army, so I told Juan (Atkins) I was in Seattle and I knew of some people who were playing music in the area. He sent me some records, one of which was 'Technicolor' [a 1996 Metroplex single from Channel One--Atkins and Doug Craig], Grant remembers. At the time the radio station was called KFOX and Nasty Ness was the DJ on there, so I went down to the station, took some Metroplex releases to Ness, and wanted to see if he could get them some airplay. A few months later, all of sudden you turn on MTV and you see Sir Mix A Lot with 'Baby Got Back' and listening [to the background rhythm] you say, 'hey, that's Technicolor! I didn't really think anything of it at the time, but eventually that record really blew up and Juan mentioned something to me about it. He was like, 'Didn't I give you some records?' And I was thinking, 'Damn, you know what? You did!' Consequently, a lawsuit resulted. Atkins got his deserved royalties, and Grant can laugh now at his involvement in this now infamous footnote in electro history. Lester Kenyatta Spence wrote: On Wed, 12 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/12/00 11:31:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's interesting to me is not so much the cultural angle.but the fact that they jumped on Ghetto Tech (which is just a more sped up version of miami bass music) oh about...14 years after the fact as far as i can reckon. Who jumped on it? Music magazines(doing their job to stay hip) that have had dj's, labels, and good promoters pushing it to them and the suburban buying masses of club kids(white and black)for years-- whether it is worthy of a grain of salt or not. I haven't heard any musicians talkin' about it, other than to dismiss it as the Brittney Spears of synthesis. Who cares anyways, if people are buyin' sell it- that's capitalism. Isn't it? What I find interesting is the argument that this music is NEW. There's an interesting racial angle in there.it doesn't exist until large groups of whites listen to it. So the first article I read about the music deals with a white DJ who happened to go to school here at Michigan, then left after he blew up I think. The first article I read about house IN THE CHICAGO PAPERS was in 1991over ten years at LEAST after it'd been created. This is not a new phenomenon, but interesting nonetheless. Re: Bass and Booty--- apples and oranges--- very different in ways other than pitch. Some bass patters were actually complicated and certainly explored tonal quality and lo-end frequencies ways that were never done before. Give me an exampleit seems to me that BOTH grew out of Detroit technoI recall TECHNICOLOR being used for the backdrop of one of 2 Live Crew's early songs. Ghetto tech is more of a fusion between Miami and Technobut this makes them different types of APPLES, rather than apples on the one hand and oranges on the other. I'll take Davis and Coltrane with Evans in a smoke-filled lounge over either anytime,but that's just a matter of taste. I'm the same waybut I don't know too many house heads that can roll with either subgenre.. peace lks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Cognition/Andrew Duke's In The Mix mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://techno.ca/cognition 1096 Queen St #123 Halifax NS Canada B3H 2R9
Re: (313) belt driven decks,no efxs,909? yes please
ahahaha. DISS. Rich. On Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:21:24 EDT Hugh G. Blaze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take another hit off the bong. Umm, I've finally decided to release my final mix CD in time for the Detroit Music Festival, for all yeah waiting for the scoop on this one, I will start it off with two minutes of complete silence in which I will illustrate the spacial dynamics of sound not really being heard, the texture momentum of our frequency range as a human being which I might add is between 20 hrz to 20,000 hrz will fluently be explored, I plan on adding frequency ranges to which only neighbouring yard animals or personal pets would be able to fully understand, I find that exploring these organic sounds to the extent that...really forced geeky sample hey guys can I play my synth here? will fully compress the sound dynamics that I've been searching for, my drive to find new ways of finding patterns within, within, within patterns will leave most of you banging your hands for no particular reason, waiting to order something at McDonalds...do look for my new way of making ya'll move at the Festival cuz I plan on staying there (in one spot) for captains log start date 9383 rounded off to the neareast decimal point, we've travel... the entire 3 days...=) now that's inovation =) Emanuel __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Free Email, Anime News, and The Best Prices at http://AnimeNation.com
Re: (313) Techno Rebels--miami bass-ghetto tech etc.
y'all can check the interview with Mike on Flatplastic (http://www.flatplastic.com) as well as a chat with Jordan Fields and Rick Wade. -Giles. Andrew Duke wrote: a piece from a feature on Detroit's Mike Grant from Cognition (http://techno.ca/cognition) re: the use of Technicolor: 1985 looked to be Grant's year in Detroit, but before things had started to fall into place in his DJ career, he had already made the decision to join the military. While in the forces, Grant DJed as often as he could wherever he was stationed, and while in Seattle inadvertently managed to work a little bit of Detroit into a certain rumpshaker from the city's Sir Mix A Lot. I wanted to remain involved in the music while I was in the army, so I told Juan (Atkins) I was in Seattle and I knew of some people who were playing music in the area. He sent me some records, one of which was 'Technicolor' [a 1996 Metroplex single from Channel One--Atkins and Doug Craig], Grant remembers. At the time the radio station was called KFOX and Nasty Ness was the DJ on there, so I went down to the station, took some Metroplex releases to Ness, and wanted to see if he could get them some airplay. A few months later, all of sudden you turn on MTV and you see Sir Mix A Lot with 'Baby Got Back' and listening [to the background rhythm] you say, 'hey, that's Technicolor! I didn't really think anything of it at the time, but eventually that record really blew up and Juan mentioned something to me about it. He was like, 'Didn't I give you some records?' And I was thinking, 'Damn, you know what? You did!' Consequently, a lawsuit resulted. Atkins got his deserved royalties, and Grant can laugh now at his involvement in this now infamous footnote in electro history. Lester Kenyatta Spence wrote: On Wed, 12 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/12/00 11:31:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's interesting to me is not so much the cultural angle.but the fact that they jumped on Ghetto Tech (which is just a more sped up version of miami bass music) oh about...14 years after the fact as far as i can reckon. Who jumped on it? Music magazines(doing their job to stay hip) that have had dj's, labels, and good promoters pushing it to them and the suburban buying masses of club kids(white and black)for years-- whether it is worthy of a grain of salt or not. I haven't heard any musicians talkin' about it, other than to dismiss it as the Brittney Spears of synthesis. Who cares anyways, if people are buyin' sell it- that's capitalism. Isn't it? What I find interesting is the argument that this music is NEW. There's an interesting racial angle in there.it doesn't exist until large groups of whites listen to it. So the first article I read about the music deals with a white DJ who happened to go to school here at Michigan, then left after he blew up I think. The first article I read about house IN THE CHICAGO PAPERS was in 1991over ten years at LEAST after it'd been created. This is not a new phenomenon, but interesting nonetheless. Re: Bass and Booty--- apples and oranges--- very different in ways other than pitch. Some bass patters were actually complicated and certainly explored tonal quality and lo-end frequencies ways that were never done before. Give me an exampleit seems to me that BOTH grew out of Detroit technoI recall TECHNICOLOR being used for the backdrop of one of 2 Live Crew's early songs. Ghetto tech is more of a fusion between Miami and Technobut this makes them different types of APPLES, rather than apples on the one hand and oranges on the other. I'll take Davis and Coltrane with Evans in a smoke-filled lounge over either anytime,but that's just a matter of taste. I'm the same waybut I don't know too many house heads that can roll with either subgenre.. peace lks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Cognition/Andrew Duke's In The Mix mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://techno.ca/cognition 1096 Queen St #123 Halifax NS Canada B3H 2R9 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) new random noise generation
Check this show out... Lenny gave me a copy of Random Noise's CD at the Music Conference and you will want to check this out. Bring's back some great memories... Dave = Original Message From Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] = tonight on Detroit Influence: new Random Noise Generation, new Munchman, and a brand new KMS release, come check it out.:) Detroit Influence is aired on www.flyfm.net on wednesday evenings from 6-8 pm, cst. Dave G. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Renegade Rhythms email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exploring the Inner Dimensions of Sound http://www.RenegadeRhythms.com Next Live Real Audio Broadcast: Wed April 5, 2000 --
Re: (313)Real Audio
www.controlteam.com (nice tech house, house and straight techno mixes) and www.beatbox.com im surprised nobody mentioned that one (unless its already gone) buts its got sets from 313ers like dj horsepower and dj marathon. plenty other michigan heads too...mostly tech __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: (313) OT: Italo Disco
Indeed, my dear friends, the people from Hotix do love Italo in their record collection. It figures they get their stuff at Clone recordshop in Rotterdam, wich is connected to Hotmix. You can mailorder at their site http://www.clone.nl If I'm correct, they'll except Visa. But remember, a lot of music was released in Italy, since most artists where actually a cover-up for the mob, to do some laundry...So it would be a good idea to check for Municher Disco as well! A lot of stunning Italo tracks are actually from Germany. You could check the Dutch label Ramshorn. In the early eighties they (re-)released a lot of Italo and other Disco classics, but also the crap you'll find on those compilation CD's. Another good reference could indeed be the Mixed Up the Hague CD, but you'll be dissapointed with the fact that only track titles are listed, not the performing artists. Ofcourse you must also check the links pages of http://www.hotmix.net Brian Out now: BUNKER 3008, Legowelt vs Orgue Electronique Derrick in Nord Korea Mailorder at http://www.clone.nl/ Info at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New CD's!
Hey all, just thought I'd share some new CD's I got with you guys/gals: 1: Smokers Delight [Nightmares On Wax] 2: Miles Davis - Bitches Brew 3: Josh Wink - Profound Sounds Vol. 1 The first CD is from 95 and is basically a downtempo delight, the title says it all - anybody else checked this out?!?! I picked up the Miles Davis Cd cuz I haven't really explored Jazz as much as I should, and seeing that Jazz had a big influence on techno and house as I have learned from the list, I thought I should check this out. The 3rd CD, Josh Wink is actually really good. It has some great tracks including a Gez Varley track, a track by Heiko Laux and Johannes Heil, and some more worth while tracks on there. Anybody else listen to this?? Anyways I'm pretty happy with me selection seeing as I haven't bought anything besides vinyl for at least 4 or 5 months ;) Anyways.. 'Michigan' Myke [1 TRAK Resident] __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: (313) New CD's!
I was suprised when I heard that Josh Wink as well.it is very good.glad to see that he has changed his style.. I have a great CD as well Terry Francis - Architecture Vol 2 - Pagan anyone know about Vol 1 ??? Peace K - Original Message - From: Myke Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 3:41 PM Subject: (313) New CD's! Hey all, just thought I'd share some new CD's I got with you guys/gals: 1: Smokers Delight [Nightmares On Wax] 2: Miles Davis - Bitches Brew 3: Josh Wink - Profound Sounds Vol. 1 The first CD is from 95 and is basically a downtempo delight, the title says it all - anybody else checked this out?!?! I picked up the Miles Davis Cd cuz I haven't really explored Jazz as much as I should, and seeing that Jazz had a big influence on techno and house as I have learned from the list, I thought I should check this out. The 3rd CD, Josh Wink is actually really good. It has some great tracks including a Gez Varley track, a track by Heiko Laux and Johannes Heil, and some more worth while tracks on there. Anybody else listen to this?? Anyways I'm pretty happy with me selection seeing as I haven't bought anything besides vinyl for at least 4 or 5 months ;) Anyways.. 'Michigan' Myke [1 TRAK Resident] __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Techno Rebels--miami bass-ghetto tech etc.
On 12 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't agree with the duality of ghetto and bass. There's a third (sub)genre, and that could be called technobass or maybe Detroit bass. And the lineage on that goes on before Miami, before jeep trax, before where dem hos at, before all of it. I think you're rightthough I'd be interested in a geneology here. I don't remember anything like say, Get It Girl or Throw That Dick before '86 or so.. I have enough technobass/Detroit bass now to do a pretty decent full set, and while I'll never match the skills of the masters, it's fun to play and *this* house head definitely rolls with that. I hear you.but don't quite feel you. :) peace lks
Re: (313) New CD's!
K,[EMAIL PROTECTED],internet writes: anyone know about Vol 1 ??? It's good. Nice mid-tempo tech-house, classy and refined, if that makes sense. I like it, play it at work a lot, but I've also heard it's not as good as the second volume. Trade a tape? Email me privately
BEF (Was: Re: Detroit Women (was: please help!)
OscillateX2 wrote: I think Sarah Gregory moved back to London to persue a career as an artist. As Time Goes By (Sitting Under a Tree) she did with Carl Craig is still such an amazing track! And her husband Glenn Gregory was part of Sheffield synth pop band Heaven 17/BEF... Actually, BEF was Marsh Ware, Glenn Gregory wasn't really a part of it ... I just about shit my pants last year when Shake dropped a BEF track - was it Uptown Apocalypse? The Optimum Chant? I forget - when he spun out here in LA ... had that track stuck in my head for days afterwards! Desperately searching for his cassette copy of Music For Stowaways, - Greg (Who wonders how many people realize what an amazing musical year that 1981 was, since you'll never find out from any Totally 80's! compilations)
Re: (313) Real Audio Mixes
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Fwd: Mixer US reviews in advance
---BeginMessage--- Shawn Rudiman Evidence of Life EP 7th City US A deep four-tracker from Dan DBX Bell's label. The Pittsburgh-based Rudiman shows his jazzy, tribal side here (a much better, more focused and overall better-produced effort than his previous Blue Empire EP on his own Hypervinyl imprint), with John Tejada-esque moments of chords and depth. A more uptempo release from the usually-more experimental 7th City, this one brings soul and maturity to your basic, banging techno set. Or maybe I'm just getting old. Recommended. ***1/2 --Alan Oldham Jochem Paap Electric Deluxe Plus 8 CAN white label This one was handed to me by Richie Hawtin right-hand man Clark Warner during my recent post-Miami set at Detroit's Motor club. Since the Rotterdam-based Paap's current noise/industrial/electro output as Speedy J on NovaMute is incomprehensible to me, I fully expected this to be more of the same, and was prepared to dismiss it. WRONG ! Electric Deluxe is slow-building, flat-out banging, peak-time 4/4 techno and guaranteed to rock your floor. Three tracks here (untitled on this white label), all stompin'. A solid dancefloor hit for the newly-resurgent Plus 8 and one more sign (along with Hawtin's Orange 12 and DE9 mix CD on M_nus) that sub-minimal, Basic Channel-ish techno, at least in the Hawtin camp, has run its course. A cryptic note in the run-out groove completes the packagebut alluding to what ? --Alan Oldham Bryan Zentz Skufftones 1.0 In-Tec UK white label No, it isn't a ska record. After Zentz's brilliant hard techno manifesto Kingdom of the Selfish on Primate and his deeper Loving Them Is Dangerous. Hating Them Is Futile EP on Jericho, the prolific track machine returns on Carl Cox's London-based imprint. Good stuff as usual, but I'm not feeling the lead track, Algebra. It works that Giorgio Moroder I Feel Love bassline one too many times. Too many people in both the house and techno worlds have all bitten that groove. Doesn't Felix Da Housecat have a track like that on his album ? Enough already. But the next track, Matador, returns Zentz to familiar funky house/techno crossover territory. Metric is the one I'd most likely play out: cool, tribal and very Purpose Maker circa Steampit EP. Bravador continues in that vein with clean production, nice Latin horn stabs and deft sample work. Three out of four this time for Zentz, but still better than most people's averages. *** --Alan Oldham Mike Dearborn vs. The Advent Battle Remixes Majesty US Well, you know, it's Mike Dearborn and The Advent. You know what it sounds like. What can I say that you don't already know other than it's taken from Dearborn's Ready For War album from last year ? ***1/2 --Alan Oldham Cristian Varela Generator Feelings EP Primate UK white label Four tracks' worth of driving, pumping, but ultimately-average post-Mills dancefloor techno from Madrid, but Goddamn, too much midrange in the final mix ! Maybe okay for younger ears, but too much for these road-damaged cauliflowers. Hey Nilz (of UK mastering lab The Exchange), quit leaning on the EQ so hard, we get the message. **1/2 --Alan Oldham G-Flame and Mr. G Give 'N' Take EP Moods and Grooves US white label More funky, compressed house madness as Colin McBean meets Detroit for his latest G-Flame side on Mike Grant's up-and-coming MG imprint. Swing Crewz II is your basic, late night G-Flame groove that we know so well; straddling that fine line between house and techno. G's D. Sound Dub and Pulsez are more of the same. A refreshing, uptempo change from the current trend of pitched-down, water torture beats (KDJ, Theo, Alton Miller, etc.) in Detroit house music. If it got any slower, it'd be hip-hop. --Alan Oldham Terrence Dixon From The Far Future 2x12 Tresor GER white label Frankly, this album is better than I thought it would be, going by Dixon's past solo work (Dixon's co-production on Juan Atkins' 1998 Skynet album, for various reasons, went uncredited, which led to this project on Tresor). Very deep, repetitive and melodic, the tracks on From The Far Future are simple at first listen, but tracks like Running Time and Untitled (my favorite) are compelling enough to take you deeper, and with more swing, warmth and sense of melody than the usual stark, minimal German techno. Track titles like Early Space Pioneers evoke the paintings of Black art savant Jean-Michel Basquiat while sharing the painter's willful primitivism. More suited for home listening than the dancefloor, this is more the art gallery background music of the present than the sounds of the far future. Get the CD version and press repeat. --Alan Oldham www.puresonikrecords.net
Rave betty Barbie and DJ Ken
So I'm watching Batman Beyond this afternoon (working from home has its advantages) and a commercial came on and I about fell over and died. What in God's name were they advertising? A DJ Ken doll!!! Complete with a turntable and mixer!!! Yes, now your little sister's Barbie can get down with the underground and be a DJ groupie (or kick Ken off the decks for his wack skillz and take over herself...). As if all the DJ Wannabes from Oklahoma hanging around the Radisson pool at WMC with their stripper girlfriends and their home-burned mix CD's wasn't enough... PW
