simmonds track id
hey, i need help identifying this track: it's the last track chris simmonds played on his www.groovetech.com set (nov 04, 2000). there's also another track that goes i suppose .. i suppose.. i suppose it's like if anyone has any ideas about these please let me know. awesome tracks thanks, sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] House music all night long. Free email. And more! http://www.housemusic.com
Re: [313] TOKOMAK online mp3s
Sounds like they all used the same sample cd, in fact most of the bongo patterns are recycled throughout different tracks. Good tracks for whatever they are worth, no innovation and a distinct similarity to too many other tracks out there. I wasted my time yet again... todd - Original Message - From: Christian Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 3:57 PM Subject: [313] TOKOMAK online mp3s maybe someone already posted this??? you can find quite a lot of tracks from the TOKOMAK label at http://mp3.com/tokomak thought that might be of interest to some of you. not exactly my style, but very high quality productions nonetheless. Christian Bloch www.mp3.com/bloch Tresor/LL/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque Droppings/Set.Go - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Dave
--- Mxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, what can anyone tell me about dave? Someone sent me a tape some while back with tracks titled tropic, papaya, skylight and exakt. It's pretty lush stuff which moves from something you'd place as 313 fodder but is old-style nice whatcha used to term IDM (not harsh or glitchy, though - and with a consistent deep kick drum) - maybe. Anyway, pray tellreleases, labels, cat#s, anything. Thanks. Sounds like it could be Dave Krasserman. Dave has had a few releases, some of which are on Raum music from Germany. Very lush deep house / techhouse. The Raum record I have (Sightseeing I think it's called) has DAVE written in big letters so I think that's where the tape is coming from. I know lots of other 313ers will have Dave Krasserman records - anyone? -another Dave. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] TOKOMAK online mp3s
couldn't agree more, just remember someone asking for info on them - thought i'd help... Christian Bloch www.mp3.com/bloch Tresor/LL/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque Droppings/Set.Go - Original Message - From: Todd Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@Hyperreal.Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 5:28 AM Subject: Re: [313] TOKOMAK online mp3s Sounds like they all used the same sample cd, in fact most of the bongo patterns are recycled throughout different tracks. Good tracks for whatever they are worth, no innovation and a distinct similarity to too many other tracks out there. I wasted my time yet again... todd
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A Tresor Producer in New York on Saturday
Anyone from New York going to Surgeon and Ruskin @ Limelight on the 13th? I'm thinking about making the trip up. Tristan == Ten mixes, one album, various tracks, pics and info here: http://phonopsia.tripod.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] FrogboyMCI on AOL IM Deserve's Got Nothing to Do With it. -Clint Eastwood, Unforgiven -Original Message- From: peter mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Date: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [313] A New Yorker at Tresor on wednesday anyone who's going, go early. they will also have a warehouse-sale before the party, starting at 20.00 peter - Original Message - From: Elliot Taub [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 8:07 PM Subject: [313] A New Yorker at Tresor on wednesday : If anybody is planning on being in Berlin this wednesday, come check me : out. I'll be DJing at Tresor from 2am to 4am. Be there or be square. : : -- : S C A T A L O G I C S : www.scatalogics.com : Graphic Design : Party Promotion : Disc Jockeys : : 718-204-8434 : 646-752-6262 : : : : : - : To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
John Lilly in Loop
-Original Message- From: David Bitterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Date: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 5:45 PM Subject: [313] RE: Tone shifting, phantom sound, etc... John Lilly performed an experiment with a tape loop of the word cogitate being played to a room full of psychologists for about 15 minutes. They were instructed to record the various word changes every time the tape changed. None of them knew that the tape was a static loop. About 90 percent of the group came back with a list of at least ten changes. This was an official psychological experiment using other psychologists as the lab rats. On that note, try to track down John Lilly in Loop on the first April Records comp. Excellent track, excellent comp. And... good for toneshifting. How elementary for the mind to need to split a repetitive non-melody into the opposition of two. Moving from the static one of nothing to the newly created two of something. I was always curious about this. I think much of the melodic projection is also based on the timbrality, tuning, and harmonics of the instruments (drum sounds, synths, etc..) being used. Therefore the melodies and shifts seem intimately related to the actuality of the piece itself and therefore more inherent, as in exisiting, yet not quite manifest. I think you characterized this all really well in terms of splittling one into many. This is what a bunch of French dudes believe is the beginning of consciousness. An artificial schizm that differentiates objects in the world from the undifferentiated whole. Perhaps it's a silly idea to try and pack a lifetime of a philospoher's thought into one sentence, but you get the idea. But there are so many factors involved in breaking this down and understanding the phenomenon (like anything else). Why do we get tired of the loop after a while? After how much time do we get bored, and does this vary with different songs, and do different people respond differently? I think this is what Darw_n is after. But I think these are unanswerables. To *precisely* analyse any of this in the way that cognitive scientists do, is impossible because you're trying to measure vaguely defined emotions in unquantifiable increments. To discuss Toneshifting here any more than we already have (twice) goes way beyond the scope of this list. Let's all listen to Dutch ambience and hallucinate!!! :) Tristan == Ten mixes, one album, various tracks, pics and info here: http://phonopsia.tripod.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] FrogboyMCI on AOL IM Deserve's Got Nothing to Do With it. -Clint Eastwood, Unforgiven _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [313] TOKOMAK online mp3s
At Peter's suggestion I went back and relistened to TOKOMAK 2. Here is my extended review. Track 1: Bronson's Gruv: great bassline and nice synth stab (again sounds a little too much like a preset to me). the thing that ruins this track is all the other percussion (hihats and 909 like claps) chugs like an off kilter horse and ruins any gruv you might have been enjoying at the outset of the track. Filtering to a subtle comeback after the breakdown the track makes all the same mistakes again. Trying to hard to compete with something like Aril Brykha 'Groove La Chord' and coming up short. Track 2: The Rhythm Culture: Horrible claps from the start (reminiscent of some old progressive house records), bad samples (my girlfriend says it sounds like a horrible garbled dog) and even worse the progressive old Terry Lee Brown Jr accented crash cymbals overused to bad effect. Again transparent filtering (enough to make one seasick). I can't say enough bad things about this track. Track 3: Expanding Possibilities: Possibly the best track on TOKOMAK 002. Very old Detroit, with the exception of the annoying use of the the volume fade on the synth. The percussion is by far the grooviest of the three (girlfriend bobs her head up and down to this one). TOO MUCH FILTERING shows the lack of production maturity and ideas. While the breakdowns are short and well nicer than any others, the lack of movement throughout the percussion makes this track just as stale as the others. As they said in Ninja Scroll: 'Power with out Perception is useless and only a tool' todd - Original Message - From: peter mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Todd Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [313] TOKOMAK online mp3s i guess you didn't check out the tracks from the second release (tkm002) ? if not, doing so maybe will change your view. peter - Original Message - From: Todd Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@Hyperreal.Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 5:28 AM Subject: Re: [313] TOKOMAK online mp3s : Sounds like they all used the same sample cd, in fact most of the bongo : patterns are recycled throughout different tracks. : : Good tracks for whatever they are worth, no innovation and a distinct : similarity to too many other tracks out there. : : I wasted my time yet again... : todd : - Original Message - : From: Christian Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] : To: 313 313@hyperreal.org : Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 3:57 PM : Subject: [313] TOKOMAK online mp3s : : : maybe someone already posted this??? : : you can find quite a lot of tracks from the TOKOMAK label at : http://mp3.com/tokomak thought that might be of interest to some of you. : not : exactly my style, but very high quality productions nonetheless. : : Christian Bloch : www.mp3.com/bloch : Tresor/LL/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque Droppings/Set.Go : : : - : To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : : : - : To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
RE: Recycled Loops
Ok - I have a question - I've been listening to some Recycled Loops traks lately and have noticed that they are very similiar to the User style. Does anyone know if this is yet another project of Richard Harvey?? Thanx Sherry Dean
Re: [313] old school
on 1/8/2001 5:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyway ... i know there is a bit more of this that i have on this one old 'house sound of chicago' lp...anyone know if there are any good cd comps of this stuff? thanx. AFAIK, there's little in print right now. For classic Chicago, I always rely on my trusty Chicago House comp, a 2CD set released on Saber Records in 1996, distributed by Beechwood. Very minimal packaging, with all the Trax classics. -- There4IM
[313] RE: Recycled Loops
At 11:24 PM -0800 1/9/01, boompsie wrote: Ok - I have a question - I've been listening to some Recycled Loops traks lately and have noticed that they are very similiar to the User style. Does anyone know if this is yet another project of Richard Harvey?? or if richard harvey is actually a person...
Re: [313] Dave
Dave Clark wrote: Sounds like it could be Dave Krasserman. Dave has had a few releases, some of which are on Raum music from Germany. Very lush deep house / techhouse. The Raum record I have (Sightseeing I think it's called) has DAVE written in big letters so I think that's where the tape is coming from. I know lots of other 313ers will have Dave Krasserman records - anyone? i have some of his Raum stuff. he's also put out records on Advance, i think. glyn
Re: [313] RE: Tone shifting, phantom sound, etc...
Also, out of repetition the mind has a need to create variance. John Lilly performed an experiment with a tape loop of the word cogitate being played to a room full of psychologists for about 15 minutes. They were instructed to record the various word changes every time the tape changed. None of them knew that the tape was a static loop. About 90 percent of the group came back with a list of at least ten changes. This was an official psychological experiment using other psychologists as the lab rats. this kind of finding seems consistent with various other sensory deprivation experiment results and parallels a lot of the visual illusion research, which suggests that toneshifting is most likely tied in with perceptual processing. vision tends to get a lot more attention in this kind of area, but i'm sure there's a substantive body of academic writing out there on this sort of thing if you really feel like digging for it. personally, i don't see how styles of music that generate these kind of auditory effects hold any more artistic merit than others, but that's just me. Quick comment on the DE9 reference. I agree completely that Rich's use of the effects on the tracks brings to light through expression a kind of transitional state between two things (w/ reference to the use of delay). This transitional state is quite possibly the result of years of listening to mixes. Mixes falling off, exposing the difference between the two records, and then realigning. But the over use of this effect CAN become overly manifest, overly static, and a little boring. No diss to Rich. Trust me, he's one of my utmost favorite DJs of all time. But I remember hearing him a couple of times when the delays seemed to be used so often, and at such an obvious transitional point in the break down and mixing in of the next record that it gave me a not so faint reminder of a time where parties were a night of snare roll cresendo after snare roll cresendo, this being the primary exciting agent of the peaks in tracks. You know how boring this got. Build up, build up, build up, then nothingor a raised cut-off or resonance. Of course those with skill, such as Rich, know that a build up is nothing if there's nothing to build up to! Anyways, just my two cents! Have fun with it. - i think this is characteristic of richie's recent djing, though. his mixmag cd from 1995 is very narrative and contains a lot more textural variety than the mills/user tracks he canes for the first 2/3rds of DE9 (although the latter mix has been growing on me recently.) glyn
Re: [313] RE: Recycled Loops
or if richard harvey is actually a person... LOL!!! I have some old recycled loops, and, at least then, it was sneak and someone else... I'm trying to remember... Oh, it was recycled loops on av8 records... is that what your talking about? it was very tribally if I remember right, but not very techy. More like halo and hipp-e tracks... darw_n create, demonstrate, toneshift... search for djdarwin on napster www.sphereproductions.com www.mannequinodd.com www.mp3.com/darw_n
Re: [313] RE: Tone shifting, phantom sound, etc...
this kind of finding seems consistent with various other sensory deprivation experiment results and parallels a lot of the visual illusion research, which suggests that toneshifting is most likely tied in with perceptual processing. Yes it is... The less actual info you are dealt, the more info your mind creates on its own... vision tends to get a lot more attention in this kind of area, but i'm sure there's a substantive body of academic writing out there on this sort of thing if you really feel like digging for it. There's some work out there. Most deals with how the mind reacts to info and doesn't really try to use this research in any broad way, such as impact and application, etc... What I am working on, and indeed what the basis of my toneshift theory, is how these effects in perception play in todays *social* market; what is the social impact and application of such music and effects. I suggest that a big draw to things like techno, emotive drugs, and raves, is partly due to the lack of imagination going on in the modern world. Instead of playing with sticks and rocks, cops and robbers, or being generally intellectual and imaginative, the general populous is simply being totally entertained, and being told what to see and feel (video games, high info movies for instance) - the classic lazy brain dead couch potato. And I suggest that this state of constaint and total entertainment and info-spooning is un-natural for the mind and emotional state (that comment is not to be considered a ludite remark BTW). Since techno and other lyricless dance music is very limited in its definition and message, it becomes very appealing because it allows the average mind to imagine and project (toneshift) in a world where there is little too imagine, the people seem to be getting over loaded with interpretation and input. Same thing with raves and its culture. I personally feel that imagination and creativity is a nessessity to life (at least a happy life), and since less and less is left to the imagination in the world, things like techno and raves become more and more appealling on vast scales and will continue to do so... toneshifting serves as a creative imaginitive outlet to the average person in an automated world personally, i don't see how styles of music that generate these kind of auditory effects hold any more artistic merit than others, but that's just me. I hope I never came across like that!! I find merit in everything, even good old britney spears... i think this is characteristic of richie's recent djing, though. his mixmag cd from 1995 is very narrative and contains a lot more textural variety than the mills/user tracks he canes for the first 2/3rds of DE9 (although the latter mix has been growing on me recently.) here here!!! His mixmag was very defined. It is only in the past two years say where he has seemingly pulled all his definition away, except for fleeting moments, like the classic nitzer ebb drop BTW, I have been developing a web-site to be opened this spring to deal with these theories and thoughts, along with setting up a open forum dedicated to these discussions... darw_n create, demonstrate, toneshift... search for djdarwin on napster www.sphereproductions.com www.mannequinodd.com www.mp3.com/darw_n
track ID
This house track was on Carl Cox's live set on new years of 1999-2000. The set was played in sidney, austrailia. The lyrics go like this... Gotta move it down and lemme see it again, you gotta move it down and lemme see it again. And just repeats. If you know this track, your a lifesaver. I need it for a party. Thanks, Dr.J
blake baxter
can anyone suggest some of blake baxters better tracks. i really like when a thought becomes you and sexuality, what are some of his other tracks that have that real sensuous feel it them??? ryan _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] RE: Recycled Loops
No - I have the one you are speaking about on av8. It's actually listed as the artist and the label like User - Recycled Loops on Recycled Loops. Sounds like this, which does sound alot like User, but I can see this sound coming from Umek as well - http://www.planetxusa.com/pub/audio/djram/7204 or this one where the first track sounds just like User 08 - http://www.611records.com/realaudio/vinyl/01812 or this, which is my favorite of the RLs right now - http://www611records.com/realaudio/vinyl/50350 - Original Message - From: darw_n [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org; dr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 12:03 AM Subject: Re: [313] RE: Recycled Loops or if richard harvey is actually a person... LOL!!! I have some old recycled loops, and, at least then, it was sneak and someone else... I'm trying to remember... Oh, it was recycled loops on av8 records... is that what your talking about? it was very tribally if I remember right, but not very techy. More like halo and hipp-e tracks... darw_n create, demonstrate, toneshift... search for djdarwin on napster www.sphereproductions.com www.mannequinodd.com www.mp3.com/darw_n - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] RE: Tone shifting, (not to beat a dead horse)
this i guess would be more on the technical side...rather than philosophical. surely someone can answer. ... in light of this discussion i was just playing around with doubles of a couple of daniel bell tracks and noticed that when the pitches were on perfectly the bass lines cut completely out, then on one track even the mids almost cut out completely and what was left was some cut up trebles. now i could understand (due to some physics knowledge) that if the doubles were done with inverse wave patterns they could cancel, but these are exact copies... hmm... just a fun little question. maybe someone can explain it... =) later danny
Re: [313] Why phasing ain't what it used to be... (was tone shifting)
- Original Message - From: atomly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yea, tape phasing (running two copies slightly off) and tape flange (manually slowing one down a bit and then letting it catch up) sound much better than most of the digital equivalents that are out there today one of the coolest phase tones I've ever heard was by robert fripp. fripp and eno did this song call swastika girls back in the early 70's it's an excellent example of his fripptronics. I don't know exactly how he get those tones but I've been told he uses several open real tape decks looped together and he has them modified so he can move the tape with his hand etc. I guess kinda how a dj can manipulate the record I hope this wasn't to OT? scotto http://www.mp3.com/i_majin
Re: [313] RE: Recycled Loops
At 01:21 AM 1/10/01 -0800, you wrote: No - I have the one you are speaking about on av8. It's actually listed as the artist and the label like User - Recycled Loops on Recycled Loops. Sounds like this, which does sound alot like User, but I can see this sound coming from Umek as well - http://www.planetxusa.com/pub/audio/djram/7204 or this one where the first track sounds just like User 08 - http://www.611records.com/realaudio/vinyl/01812 or this, which is my favorite of the RLs right now - http://www611records.com/realaudio/vinyl/50350 Recycled Loops is done by Umek and Valentino Kanzyani. There are 3 releases that I know about, plus a few remixes (Remix of Hitoshi Ohishi on Primate is a nice one). The last few Umek and V.K. records have that same vibe too (Umek's Contra ep on primate and V.K's 'under pressure' ep on superbra and 'next level completed' on primate) It's all probably not the most 313 related stuff, but ritchie and mills play it out quite a bit. Great dancefloor bangers. --- Tyler Hanel --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://members.home.com/tylero/music.htm --- San Diego, California
Re: [313] Deep Chord 9
I live in Portland OR my brother got one sent to him from detroit .. my other friend got one sent too him as well .. and my girlfriend just came to visit me from london and she picked me one up in smallfish records in London so i know it has made it around.bairly michael renegaderhythms Todd Smith wrote: Finding a copy of this release outside of the immediate Detroit distibution network should prove difficult. Of all the shops I've been to in the past year, and including various distributors in the UK, Spain, and Germany to which I'm regularly connected, I have yet to see this release outside of Detroit (Record Time) with the exception of Play De Record in Toronto. If Dave Cooper is still on this list he might be able to tell you more about Play De. todd _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [313] Old House Cut I.D.(Sorry off topic)
Vlad, The absolute JAM you are asking about was done by Johnny Fiasco. The record doesnt give much info. everyone who I ever hear talk about it refers to it as the zig zag record, as the label is made to look like a pack of zig zag rolling papers. I swear, Chicago KILLS me sometimes All it really says (outside of the zig zag stuff) is Mixes by DJ Fiasco and DJ Chunk A Bud. The inscription reads Zig 1 A and Zag 1 B. Good luck hunting it down. This is one record that should be repressed. I know all too many people on the hunt for it. derek plaslaiko. Yeah... thats right... Im back. After an extended stint of faulty email adresses. So, get ready for alot of overdone exclamation marks :) - Original Message - From: Vladimir Grocic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 6:45 PM Subject: [313] Old House Cut I.D.(Sorry off topic) Hey everyone, Heard a really old house cut on the radio the other day and it took me back about 7-8 years The track I'm speaking of is circa 1991-92 around the time the Cajual stuff dropped. The hook is jazzy- made up entirely of a sax. Includes a short female vocal bit in which she says either Play it again or Say it Again This track was pretty popular at the time, at least in Chicago, and got a lot of play. TIME TO BE STUPID: The sax hook sounded something like this: da dintata du duntu ta ta dununa na na nuna(say it again?/play it again?) repeat hook- repeat vocal- repeat hook -repeat vocal The structure of the song remains the same throughout the cut. Think the name of the track might be Get Up Any tips would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, h.soloist _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] blake baxter
Energize on Tresor is one of my ALL time favorites ,and I have defenitely been diggin the recent Work it(rockliffe/baxter) ! Nelson Dj Nova (Miami, FL) In a message dated 1/10/01 1:00:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: can anyone suggest some of blake baxters better tracks. i really like when a thought becomes you and sexuality, what are some of his other tracks that have that real sensuous feel it them??? ryan
Re: [313] blake baxter
But that's just the beginning! Take these tips from the owner of one of the largest collection of Blake-traxx :-) When we used to play EP on KMS is the bomb! As is Derise Me on Incognito, but very hard to find. And check out the following tracks as well: The Vault LP on Disko B, H-Factor LP on Disko B, Disko Tech and Sex Tech EP's on Tresor.Dream Sequence LP on Tresor (Tresor 02). Also the mostly uncredited stuff he released on Mix Records might be what you are looking for. There are many more, if you want to have a complete list, e-mail me privately and I'll check my Blake-stack at home :-) RD Energize on Tresor is one of my ALL time favorites ,and I have defenitely been diggin the recent Work it(rockliffe/baxter) ! Nelson Dj Nova (Miami, FL) In a message dated 1/10/01 1:00:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: can anyone suggest some of blake baxters better tracks. i really like when a thought becomes you and sexuality, what are some of his other tracks that have that real sensuous feel it them??? ryan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signup for FREE email and member home pages at http://www.turkey.com
Re: [313] Old House Cut I.D.(Sorry off topic)
Oh I remember this. Got doubles on it (not for sale, sorry) and its red writing on a white label in case you're looking for it. When this record came out it was played out ALOT at this club called Red Dog in Chi-town. There's also a part in the track where the music stops and the female vocal goes into this Louis Armstrong da ba doo skat then bam the beats kick back in again. Sweet track though. Another tidbit is, I believe its DJ Chug A Bug not Chunk A Bud...that sounds too weird. This person also turns out to be this guy named Adam(can't remember his last name) who went to the same highschool I did. Glyph In a message dated 1/10/01 2:21:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Vlad, The absolute JAM you are asking about was done by Johnny Fiasco. The record doesnt give much info. everyone who I ever hear talk about it refers to it as the zig zag record, as the label is made to look like a pack of zig zag rolling papers. I swear, Chicago KILLS me sometimes All it really says (outside of the zig zag stuff) is Mixes by DJ Fiasco and DJ Chunk A Bud. The inscription reads Zig 1 A and Zag 1 B. Good luck hunting it down. This is one record that should be repressed. I know all too many people on the hunt for it. derek plaslaiko.
Re: [313] Old House Cut I.D.(Sorry off topic)
Well, the 2 I have (heh... ALSO, not for sale!! :) ) have blue writting and says Chunk A Bud. Ive seen it in red too, though. Either/or...great record!!! :) derek. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 4:05 AM Subject: Re: [313] Old House Cut I.D.(Sorry off topic) Oh I remember this. Got doubles on it (not for sale, sorry) and its red writing on a white label in case you're looking for it. When this record came out it was played out ALOT at this club called Red Dog in Chi-town. There's also a part in the track where the music stops and the female vocal goes into this Louis Armstrong da ba doo skat then bam the beats kick back in again. Sweet track though. Another tidbit is, I believe its DJ Chug A Bug not Chunk A Bud...that sounds too weird. This person also turns out to be this guy named Adam(can't remember his last name) who went to the same highschool I did. Glyph In a message dated 1/10/01 2:21:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Vlad, The absolute JAM you are asking about was done by Johnny Fiasco. The record doesnt give much info. everyone who I ever hear talk about it refers to it as the zig zag record, as the label is made to look like a pack of zig zag rolling papers. I swear, Chicago KILLS me sometimes All it really says (outside of the zig zag stuff) is Mixes by DJ Fiasco and DJ Chunk A Bud. The inscription reads Zig 1 A and Zag 1 B. Good luck hunting it down. This is one record that should be repressed. I know all too many people on the hunt for it. derek plaslaiko. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] blake baxter
My personal fave is F*ck you up b/w Got to be Strong on Incognito. A bit on the raw and raunchy side but it works. G l y p h In a message dated 1/10/01 2:39:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But that's just the beginning! Take these tips from the owner of one of the largest collection of Blake-traxx :-) When we used to play EP on KMS is the bomb! As is Derise Me on Incognito, but very hard to find. And check out the following tracks as well: The Vault LP on Disko B, H-Factor LP on Disko B, Disko Tech and Sex Tech EP's on Tresor.Dream Sequence LP on Tresor (Tresor 02). Also the mostly uncredited stuff he released on Mix Records might be what you are looking for. There are many more, if you want to have a complete list, e-mail me privately and I'll check my Blake-stack at home :-) RD
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Re: [313] blake baxter
Check Where is the Love from The True People LP on React Peace Stewart - Original Message - From: ryan burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 6:00 AM Subject: [313] blake baxter can anyone suggest some of blake baxters better tracks. i really like when a thought becomes you and sexuality, what are some of his other tracks that have that real sensuous feel it them??? ryan _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old UR album
Ok, so i posted this request a while ago, but had little response, but there must be someone out there that know something about this obscure Underground Resistance album I have. Its called 'Hype Stuff (You gotta Move to)' And features Rob Hood and Yolanda Reynolds doing the vocals for some of the tracks. Its on Vibe records and I figure it must have come out before UR records started as it has a very Chicagoish Hip Housey feel to much of it. One of the tracks 'You got to show me' is probably the most well known cut on it (or at least the only track that I've ever heard out anywhere). When was this album made? How rare is it? Is there anyone else out there with a copy at all?? If so what do you think? It's certainly pretty interesting listening in the context of URs catalogue. Peace Stewart
Re: [313] Old UR album
I've got You've got to show me on a Shockwave release. I like it alot. Is the rest of the LP similar? Is the label related to Shockwave ie. early UR sub label? Peace, Rc on 10/1/01 8:57 PM, Stewart Caig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, so i posted this request a while ago, but had little response, but there must be someone out there that know something about this obscure Underground Resistance album I have. Its called 'Hype Stuff (You gotta Move to)' And features Rob Hood and Yolanda Reynolds doing the vocals for some of the tracks. Its on Vibe records and I figure it must have come out before UR records started as it has a very Chicagoish Hip Housey feel to much of it. One of the tracks 'You got to show me' is probably the most well known cut on it (or at least the only track that I've ever heard out anywhere). When was this album made? How rare is it? Is there anyone else out there with a copy at all?? If so what do you think? It's certainly pretty interesting listening in the context of URs catalogue. Peace Stewart - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] blake baxter
Wait untill you hear his new album on Tresor and the Disko Fm ep, coming out soon. Although it's not his best work it still remains worth the buy. I'm currently working out the interview I did with Blake in Amsterdam. The Dutch version has already been sent to Bassic Groove and should be published beginning of February. I'm working it out in English now for Overload and Underground Committee (site). Wait untill you read what Blake has to say on his once best friend Derrick May. It ain't all good, let me tell you that! John Check Where is the Love from The True People LP on React Peace Stewart - Original Message - From: ryan burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 6:00 AM Subject: [313] blake baxter can anyone suggest some of blake baxters better tracks. i really like when a thought becomes you and sexuality, what are some of his other tracks that have that real sensuous feel it them??? ryan _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Derrick about Hardy
In this article Derrick talks about the impact House and Ron Hardy on his style. http://www.slice.co.uk/may.html ___ Do You Yahoo!? Consiga gratis su dirección @yahoo.es en http://correo.yahoo.es
Re: [313] Old UR album
I don't think its a UR sublabel. In fact I think the album came out before UR records even started. Most of the tunes sound kinda too unsophisticated to have been done after any of the UR records releases. A couple of the tracks are hard Chicago Acid style tracks and then there are cuts with Naughty Nikki, M.C LO and Sleepy D doing vocals. Don't know who they are though. Rob Hood and R.Gibson designed the cover art and the whole album is credited to Jeff Mills and Mike Banks. At a guess I would put it at 1989. Peace Stewart - Original Message - From: RC [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Stewart Caig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [313] Old UR album I've got You've got to show me on a Shockwave release. I like it alot. Is the rest of the LP similar? Is the label related to Shockwave ie. early UR sub label? Peace, Rc on 10/1/01 8:57 PM, Stewart Caig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, so i posted this request a while ago, but had little response, but there must be someone out there that know something about this obscure Underground Resistance album I have. Its called 'Hype Stuff (You gotta Move to)' And features Rob Hood and Yolanda Reynolds doing the vocals for some of the tracks. Its on Vibe records and I figure it must have come out before UR records started as it has a very Chicagoish Hip Housey feel to much of it. One of the tracks 'You got to show me' is probably the most well known cut on it (or at least the only track that I've ever heard out anywhere). When was this album made? How rare is it? Is there anyone else out there with a copy at all?? If so what do you think? It's certainly pretty interesting listening in the context of URs catalogue. Peace Stewart - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Neal Howard
Hi Does anybody know anything about Neal Howard? Apart from Indulge and To be or Not to be, what else has he done? Is he English? Peace Stewart
RE: Old UR Album
Vibe records releasd some early Members of the House stuff so I think this must have been the first project that Mike and Jeff ever worked on. Peace Stewart
Re: [313] RE: Old UR Album
1nce again i´d like to take this oppurtunity 2 mention that excellent final cut album, deep into the cut... mike and jeff´s first collaboration. and a pretty good one. after listening to it try watching apocalyps now, all of a sudden its one big ur-fest!! 154
Re: [313] RE: Recycled Loops
recycled loops is umek valentino kanzyani reloop3 real audio now at www.innercity.co.uk user is dean cole (corrosion / mono / instillation) user remix of utility plastics out now. real audio this sunday paul, innercity - Original Message - From: dr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 4:51 AM Subject: [313] RE: Recycled Loops At 11:24 PM -0800 1/9/01, boompsie wrote: Ok - I have a question - I've been listening to some Recycled Loops traks lately and have noticed that they are very similiar to the User style. Does anyone know if this is yet another project of Richard Harvey?? or if richard harvey is actually a person... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
theo parrish track id
does anyone know the track that Theo Parrish plays during his DEMF set at about 51:54 with lyrics along the lines of... I work, need a job, no Monday(money??) times are hard can anyone help me out ? Thanks Richard
Re: [313] theo parrish track id
I confess to not knowing what that track is, though I might set aside a bit of time over the weekend to attempting a pretty comprehensive Theo at DEMF tracklisting. does anyone know the track that Theo Parrish plays during his DEMF set at about 51:54 with lyrics along the lines of... I work, need a job, no Monday(money??) times are hard On a related note, I'm sat listening to Turn The Lights Down Low (Sound Signature 11) which is of Theo's usual high quality and in his own unique style. There are two mixes, the This One Mix is one of those off beat bassline tracks that you find near impossible to hear actually on the beat - despite an almighty distorted bass drum. The main mix, Full Mix poses no such problems. Another essential Parrish release that I'm looking forward to playing at home on a decent stereo. Jonny.
phasing, was beating a dead horse...
the records slowly drift out of sequence, and then you get cancellation... in light of this discussion i was just playing around with doubles of a couple of daniel bell tracks and noticed that when the pitches were on perfectly the bass lines cut completely out, then on one track even the mids almost cut out completely and what was left was some cut up trebles. now i could understand (due to some physics knowledge) that if the doubles were done with inverse wave patterns they could cancel, but these are exact copies... hmm... just a fun little question. maybe someone can explain it... =) later danny - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] phasing, was beating a dead horse...
I have not been following this closely so don't shoot me if this has been ask before. If you doubledeck two identical copies and you get it just perfect, then it seems like there is a wave going through the track. Does anybody have an idea why this occurs? Thanks, J the records slowly drift out of sequence, and then you get cancellation... in light of this discussion i was just playing around with doubles of a couple of daniel bell tracks and noticed that when the pitches were on perfectly the bass lines cut completely out, then on one track even the mids almost cut out completely and what was left was some cut up trebles. now i could understand (due to some physics knowledge) that if the doubles were done with inverse wave patterns they could cancel, but these are exact copies... hmm... just a fun little question. maybe someone can explain it... =) later danny - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] any info how to get on for 2001 DEMF
oh THAT's original. . . . From: unsel brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailing party 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] any info how to get on for 2001 DEMF Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:14:42 -0800 (PST) DANCE.ELETRO.MUSIC.FEST 2001 = Unsel Brown www.dancedance.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Kiss my flange, was beating a dead Theo Parrish (sorry)
On a related note, I'm sat listening to Turn The Lights Down Low Sorry, that's just Lights Down Low. I had presumed before hearing it that it sampled Made In The USA's Shake Your Body. It doesn't.
Info needed! Please help!
Hello, I was wondering if anyone out there had Sonic Groove's (NYC) phone numberThanks so much! I'm having a shipped record order nightmare!!! =[ GYS
RE: [313] blake baxter
My all time favorite Blake baxter tracks are When we used to play (or is it titled In the garden?)and Horny. another great track is his Crimes of passion an early techno/jazz fusion that many have ignored. Blake tells me that there will be a retrospective of his work released later this year. lets keep our fingers crossed. -a fan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] blake baxter Energize on Tresor is one of my ALL time favorites ,and I have defenitely been diggin the recent Work it(rockliffe/baxter) ! Nelson Dj Nova (Miami, FL) In a message dated 1/10/01 1:00:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: can anyone suggest some of blake baxters better tracks. i really like when a thought becomes you and sexuality, what are some of his other tracks that have that real sensuous feel it them??? ryan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] blake baxter
I hope it won't be a rerelease such as his current DreamSequence album, that looked more like a make money fast thing. [EMAIL PROTECTED] My all time favorite Blake baxter tracks are When we used to play (or is it titled In the garden?)and Horny. another great track is his Crimes of passion an early techno/jazz fusion that many have ignored. Blake tells me that there will be a retrospective of his work released later this year. lets keep our fingers crossed. -a fan
RE: [313] blake baxter
No one's mentioned Sexual Deviant - am I the only one who was really into this? (not deviancy itself though! ;-) Dan http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html http://www.mp3.com/DanButler -Original Message- From: Jongsma, K.J. [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 2:01 PM Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] blake baxter I hope it won't be a rerelease such as his current DreamSequence album, that looked more like a make money fast thing. [EMAIL PROTECTED] My all time favorite Blake baxter tracks are When we used to play (or is it titled In the garden?)and Horny. another great track is his Crimes of passion an early techno/jazz fusion that many have ignored. Blake tells me that there will be a retrospective of his work released later this year. lets keep our fingers crossed. -a fan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] blake baxter
Word! I'm still looking for Bass Manoeuvres by the Ghetto Brothers! And ermm, that should be OrlandO unless he had a sexchange recently! John, dance with me babey, out P.S. What's Orlando upto BTW? that one is cool, together with 'Brothers gonna work it out'. Also check out his work togther with Holland own Orlanda Voorn on ESP as Getho Brothers. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag 10 januari 2001 15:08 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: RE: [313] blake baxter No one's mentioned Sexual Deviant - am I the only one who was really into this? (not deviancy itself though! ;-) Dan http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html http://www.mp3.com/DanButler -Original Message- From: Jongsma, K.J. [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 2:01 PM Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject:RE: [313] blake baxter I hope it won't be a rerelease such as his current DreamSequence album, that looked more like a make money fast thing. [EMAIL PROTECTED] My all time favorite Blake baxter tracks are When we used to play (or is it titled In the garden?)and Horny. another great track is his Crimes of passion an early techno/jazz fusion that many have ignored. Blake tells me that there will be a retrospective of his work released later this year. lets keep our fingers crossed. -a fan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] blake baxter
hope they reissue it(DREAMSEQUENCE) on vinyl though, they can make sum fast money outta my pocket! 451
RE: [313] blake baxter
Nope, they won't, only on cd and believe me, I tried to get a vinyl copy of that directly by the source! ;-) J hope they reissue it(DREAMSEQUENCE) on vinyl though, they can make sum fast money outta my pocket! 451 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Track ID
Hi. I've been trying to figure out what this song is for some time. I have two mixes that it's on, both I got off Napster. The first is Marco Carola Live at Karma, the track that begins 18:41 into the mix. It is also on Marco Bailey's Connect Yourself mix, 28:05 into it. It's the song with three notes (well, two notes actually...one played twice). If anybody has these mixes and knows what song this is, let me know privately. Thanks! -Tim This e-mail message from the law firm of McCarter English, LLP is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail (or at [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and destroy all copies of the original message. ==
RE: [313]Orlando Voorn - blake baxter
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: John Osselaer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Word! I'm still looking for Bass Manoeuvres by the Ghetto Brothers! And ermm, that should be OrlandO unless he had a sexchange recently! P.S. What's Orlando upto BTW? I just heard him spin a few weeks ago and he wasn't verry clear about future releases. He did release some boring Chemical Beats EP about a year ago, he did made a great track for a documentary for the dutch TV station VPRO but i don't think that will ever be released. This was for documentary on sampling, they gave a couple of artists (Freq nasty, Speedy J and Orlando Voorn) four samples and asked them to make a track them. Orlando's version rocked big time and reminded me a lot of his earlier work as Fix.
good stuff that has come out in the last 5 months
i am in the need of some good recommendations of records that have come out in the last 5 months. i have been out of the loop because of this damn underway thing. I am looking for techno mainly, and a little house and electro. don't ask for any sub genre's because i really don't care. good music is good music. I am *finally* going to be on land and in the general vicinity of a record store here sometime soon. i can't wait. JEFF!
Re: [313] good stuff that has come out in the last 5 months
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Re: [313] good stuff that has come out in the last 5 months
hm techno: axis202223 discussed on this list several times dynamic tension, surgeon, body request 2x12 konsequent15, locutus, techno sapien ep very powerful techno konsequent16, jay denham, techno-fugitive ep typical jay denham. at first you think, ok, nothing special. but he always manages to add these little things that make his tracks something special deta, claude young, fading the edges 12 this was recommended several times on the list, i have to do it again. just awesome djax-up-lp 18, claude young, patterns-the album more cool stuff from claude young, very dark counterbalance0304, surgeon breakbeat-techno-electro from the surgeon, funky as hell electro: electrix 01,0203 new electrolabel from the uk (sublabel from tortured) the first two are from zeta reticula (umek) and the third is from the advent plasmek11, marco passarani more awesome electro bit of everything: expo2000 remixes 2x12 no words necessary hope there's something you can spend your money on (and don't forget the delsin stuff of course :-) ) peter - Original Message - From: FC3 Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 5:40 AM Subject: [313] good stuff that has come out in the last 5 months : i am in the need of some good recommendations of records that have come out : in the last 5 months. i have been out of the loop because of this damn : underway thing. I am looking for techno mainly, and a little house and : electro. don't ask for any sub genre's because i really don't care. good : music is good music. I am *finally* going to be on land and in the general : vicinity of a record store here sometime soon. i can't wait. : : JEFF! : : : : : - : To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
Re: [313] RE: Tone shifting, phantom sound, etc...
What I am working on, and indeed what the basis of my toneshift theory, is how these effects in perception play in todays *social* market; what is the social impact and application of such music and effects. I love it when people use words that end with -tion or with -ism to sound very smart. Personally? Toneshifting sounds like something that belongs in a room full of people sitting on pillows wearing robes and rubbing their power crystals to align all that is right in the world. uh huh. Yeah, after listening to things for a while, you hear different things. And yeah, when timbres are overlapped, they produce different timbres (judas priest being sued for murder anyone). Big deal. As Frued said, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. From what i've been reading from all of you, you make a dj out to be some kind of shaman, some kind of sonic magician that *hears* these absent sounds, and is intentionally creating them. And all along, when they spun two records together, i heard two records being spun together (no matter how great). I suggest that a big draw to things like techno, emotive drugs, and raves, is partly due to the lack of imagination going on in the modern world. you have the *what* right, but not the *why* right here. Kids ARE into techno, drugs, and raves because of the lack of something in the modern world, but i don't know if its imagination. Drug use lends itself more to a lack of emotions as opposed to imagination. Always has, always will. I mean, you're talkin about white suburbanite kids who grew up on cable tv, the internet, Mtv, and their parents never being around. Their lack of affection IS what draws this type of kid to the 'rave' scene. As always (and should always be assumed), there are exceptions to this rule. And I suggest that this state of constaint and total entertainment and info-spooning is un-natural for the mind and emotional state ah, again, i feel you're way off base. the human state of mind IS geared toward info-spooning. People not only want to be told what to think, they NEED to be told what to think. Its important to them. Its what ties them all together and gives them unitity. This is something that has gone on since the begining of man, and will never change. average people are called that for a reason: they're average. Since techno and other lyricless dance music is very limited in its definition and message, it becomes very appealing because it allows the average mind to imagine and project (toneshift) in a world where there is little too imagine, the people seem to be getting over loaded with interpretation and input. Interesting. I think you need to follow your own words about overloaded with interpretation and input. Again, this is just coming down to my humble opinion, but the reason that dance music is popular in our culture IS because of its lack of definition, but i don't think it has anything to do with toneshifting. I think its because there IS no message, they don't (as in average people) have to project a definition. In effect, when they dance, they don't have to think for once in their lives. Its just dancing. things like techno and raves become more and more appealling on vast scales and will continue to do so... is this why *raves* are on the decline right now? Do we have some utopian period of creativity and imagination coming up that is causing the *scene* worldwide to slowly decline? toneshifting serves as a creative imaginitive outlet to the average person in an automated world Toneshifting serves as a pretty word to make you feel like you invented something. I'm not trying to dog on you, but all i see on this is a bunch of stuff that sounds 'nice,' and sounds ,'smart,' but really is just putting too much thought into something that is really just a cigar. Hey, its nice to see someone have theories, i have my own whack ones, but for a style of music that was built around pressing buttons on a step sequencer, you're giving too much credit out. I hope I never came across like that!! I find merit in everything, even good old britney spears... That's good. But practically everyone on this list DOES come off that way. I was gonna ask you about your trance tracks on your page (because i myself thought of you as an elitist), but this former comment of your cleared it up. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
techno is dumb childs play
Hey, its nice to see someone have theories, i have my own whack ones, but for a style of music that was built around pressing buttons on a step sequencer, you're giving too much credit out. I have a *serious* problem with this statement... and it is clear that either I miscommunicated something, or you didn't read the first post. I'm not theorizing about music, I've never even taken a music theory class, nor learned an instrument... toneshifting is a mundane psychological effect that is mostly understood in professional fields with *possible* large social implications... it's the implications that I am concerned with... Anyways, to return to 313, any new good Paul Mac's out?? I still carry former old-school pupil around, love his sound!! darw_n create, demonstrate, toneshift... search for djdarwin on napster www.sphereproductions.com www.mannequinodd.com www.mp3.com/darw_n
Re: [313] phasing, explanation
Ok this is easy Step 1. Draw 2 sine waves with their intial points about half an inch (1 cm for those of us not in the US). Step 2. Draw 10 vertical lines through the waves, these will represent the points in time we will then average also draw a horizontal line through where each wave starts (the baseline). Step 3. Now at each point in time (node), measure the distance from the baseline to that point in the wave, for each wave. Add the two measurements together and draw a point in at the added height. Step 4. Once all ten points are done try and draw as smooth a curve through each point as possible. Result: This is the resultant sound wave. While the initial sine waves are nice and rounded you will find that as you map more and more nodes that the two out of sequence waves tend to form a more square like wave. Notes on Square waves: When a square wave is produced the audible sound is not continuous (ie you hear a shortened sound that does not represent the whole wave.) This is due to the nature of sound (there must be a change in amplitude of the wave in order for it to be audible, therefore in square waves where the wave remains at a constant amplitude for a extended time period there is no sound.) This is why in audio when large wave forms (ie. bass) become square they audibly click and are shorter then the resultant in sequence waves. Small wave forms (ie hihats) however have tiny square waves and cut out only for nanoseconds at most, this is why the high end will sound like flanging, as the rate of change of the distance between the competing waves changes, the tonal quality of the high end will change as well. I hope that helps (I did three years worth of physics, mostly sound and electric) todd darw_n wrote: hehe, the answer is right below your question!! ;) The slight drift out of sequence causes wave cancellation... Now, someone on here can perhaps provide a more technical explanation... I have not been following this closely so don't shoot me if this has been ask before. If you doubledeck two identical copies and you get it just perfect, then it seems like there is a wave going through the track. Does anybody have an idea why this occurs? Thanks, J the records slowly drift out of sequence, and then you get cancellation... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] techno is dumb childs play
Hey, its nice to see someone have theories, i have my own whack ones, but for a style of music that was built around pressing buttons on a step sequencer, you're giving too much credit out. I have a *serious* problem with this statement... what problem would that be? Did i not say something true? I'm not theorizing about music, I've never even taken a music theory class, nor learned an instrument... Ok, i'm sorry. I must be wrong. You see, i thought this message board was about Detroit Techno Music. But apparently its about mundane psychological effects. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] RE: Tone shifting, phantom sound, etc...
What I am working on, and indeed what the basis of my toneshift theory, is how these effects in perception play in todays *social* market; what is the social impact and application of such music and effects. what's a *social* market? _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Monolake/Toronto
I was talking with Thomas Jirku last night...looks like Monolake and Kit Clayton will play the B-Side (above Fez Batik) on Feb. 10. They've apparently been developing a new Mac program together, and there's a good chance the performance will be collaborative at some stage of the night. Here's hoping! Cheers, Wes np: Monolake: Gravity
derrick may wildtime remixes
i picked up a bootleg copy of derrick mays wildtime remixes at gramamphone the other day. the label has no info beyond this, and i was wondering if someone could enlighten me on what and when these remixes are from. Sorry if this has already come up- i've deleted a lot of 313 mail lately ps- this is something to keep an eye out for if you dont have it already- and the bootleg is hard to miss- has DERRICK MAY in huge letters on the label :) p
Re: [313] techno is dumb childs play
techno is dumb childs play... oh oh ;) hi jayson to me that's a bit of a bold, ignorant statement. music of any sort is a representive of someone's personal expression and creativity. some people just put more time and effort into music making and some people also have much more experience and education in music, theory and production giving them the ability to produce much higher quality music. i didn't read any of the tone shifting threads so i may not really know what i'm arguing about but to say techno is dumb child's play insults most of the producers of the music i've grown to love. peace to all... no more from me about this djr From: Jayson B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] techno is dumb childs play Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:19:40 - Hey, its nice to see someone have theories, i have my own whack ones, but for a style of music that was built around pressing buttons on a step sequencer, you're giving too much credit out. I have a *serious* problem with this statement... what problem would that be? Did i not say something true? I'm not theorizing about music, I've never even taken a music theory class, nor learned an instrument... Ok, i'm sorry. I must be wrong. You see, i thought this message board was about Detroit Techno Music. But apparently its about mundane psychological effects. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
deepchord releases
how many release does deepchord have? i went to their site and they list dcv07,dcv08,dcv09 (all 3 are vunyl releases) and dc01-06CD. so 3 vinyl releases and one cd? djr _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Re: [313] TOKOMAK online mp3s
Okay... I've held myself from pressing the reply key throughout the course of this thread, but I have to stick up for my admiration of the Tokomak 002 record. I have only the 002 record, and Have yet to get a listen from the 001 album, but the track produced by Don Williams on 002 is absolutely blinding to me! Its on Side one track one (I beleive), and it has a violin that plays a super catchy line. I would have to disagree on the comment that the volume fading is annoying (if this is the track you were talking about), and that the filtered drum kit was immature (?I don't see how music can be immature...?) and lacked production ideas. I do know, however, that when I heard this in the record store on my overseas trip, it was a must buy from moment # 1. Everytime I play this track out, everyone screams and shouts at the breakdown, especially when the half beats start and biuld into the solo violin once more... I think its easy to pick tracks apart, (especially when you see some competition in it - i.e. if you produce tracks also), and that we should all (of course) have our opinions, but that we should not totally rip into musical works. I think that way of thinking is far to close-minded, and that the understanding that all tastes of music are different and everyone has their own, is a much better way to present it. Sorry I wasted so much time explaining a topic that many will find as off topic, but I really love that song. One of my favorites. Dennis Donohue From: Todd Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@Hyperreal.Org 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] TOKOMAK online mp3s Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 22:55:59 -0800 At Peter's suggestion I went back and relistened to TOKOMAK 2. Here is my extended review. Track 1: Bronson's Gruv: great bassline and nice synth stab (again sounds a little too much like a preset to me). the thing that ruins this track is all the other percussion (hihats and 909 like claps) chugs like an off kilter horse and ruins any gruv you might have been enjoying at the outset of the track. Filtering to a subtle comeback after the breakdown the track makes all the same mistakes again. Trying to hard to compete with something like Aril Brykha 'Groove La Chord' and coming up short. Track 2: The Rhythm Culture: Horrible claps from the start (reminiscent of some old progressive house records), bad samples (my girlfriend says it sounds like a horrible garbled dog) and even worse the progressive old Terry Lee Brown Jr accented crash cymbals overused to bad effect. Again transparent filtering (enough to make one seasick). I can't say enough bad things about this track. Track 3: Expanding Possibilities: Possibly the best track on TOKOMAK 002. Very old Detroit, with the exception of the annoying use of the the volume fade on the synth. The percussion is by far the grooviest of the three (girlfriend bobs her head up and down to this one). TOO MUCH FILTERING shows the lack of production maturity and ideas. While the breakdowns are short and well nicer than any others, the lack of movement throughout the percussion makes this track just as stale as the others. As they said in Ninja Scroll: 'Power with out Perception is useless and only a tool' todd - Original Message - From: peter mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Todd Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [313] TOKOMAK online mp3s i guess you didn't check out the tracks from the second release (tkm002) ? if not, doing so maybe will change your view. peter - Original Message - From: Todd Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@Hyperreal.Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 5:28 AM Subject: Re: [313] TOKOMAK online mp3s : Sounds like they all used the same sample cd, in fact most of the bongo : patterns are recycled throughout different tracks. : : Good tracks for whatever they are worth, no innovation and a distinct : similarity to too many other tracks out there. : : I wasted my time yet again... : todd : - Original Message - : From: Christian Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] : To: 313 313@hyperreal.org : Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 3:57 PM : Subject: [313] TOKOMAK online mp3s : : : maybe someone already posted this??? : : you can find quite a lot of tracks from the TOKOMAK label at : http://mp3.com/tokomak thought that might be of interest to some of you. : not : exactly my style, but very high quality productions nonetheless. : : Christian Bloch : www.mp3.com/bloch : Tresor/LL/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque Droppings/Set.Go : : : - : To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : : : - : To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : For additional commands, e-mail:
Re: [313] RE: Recycled Loops
It definitely is not.. Recycled loops (the first one) on Primevil is done by Umek Uros and Kanzyani (first name is too difficult to remember). the second instance that I know about is on a different label and has a much housier feel : includes the lyrics: rock the disco tech this one is only Umek (I beleive) Unless there are other ones floating around, those would disclude Richard Harvey AKA user AKA Dean Cole. Dennis Donohue From: boompsie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] RE: Recycled Loops Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 23:24:21 -0800 Ok - I have a question - I've been listening to some Recycled Loops traks lately and have noticed that they are very similiar to the User style. Does anyone know if this is yet another project of Richard Harvey?? Thanx Sherry Dean - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
upcoming SoundMangle events...
hi! first of all - special thanks to everyone who came out on new years eve! we all had a great time and we hope that you did too! SoundMangle Productions is very excited to announce two upcoming events featuring live music from various members of the SoundMangle crew... Saturday, January 13, 2001 California Institute of the Arts - Main Gallery - 10 PM 5 freeway and McBean Parkway, Valencia, CA the Center for Experiments in Art and Information Technology in conjunction with SoundMangle Productions for your listening enjoyment brings you live experimental computer music by: jo john eacott sprek twerk blectum from blechdom mintyfresh logreybeam a wide assortment of wackiness - music, visuals, costumes and fun. this is a free party but once again there will be a list - you will have to be on it to get on the CalArts campus. please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] to get on the list. it is recommended that you bring your own whatever. Friday, January 19, 2001 Activate - a techno happy hour (5-10 PM) @ LIGHT (the orange buildingfront @) 839 Geary Street between Hyde and Larkin, San Francisco, CA a benefit evening for One Heart Productions (www.oneheartproductions.com) dj sets by: twerk single cell orchestra +more live set by mintyfresh please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more information. hope to see you there! peace ben -- ben milstein aka mintyfresh www.soundmangle.com - your home for experimental dance music...
Re: [313] derrick may wildtime remixes
They are, I'd imagine, his remixes of Dee Lite's Wild Time. I don't know the bootleg to be sure of it, but I have the original issue of it. Also, I don't know when it's is from, but I'd put it at around 1990/1991. I'll check when I get home, though. Jonny. - Original Message - From: Peter Leidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 5:50 PM Subject: [313] derrick may wildtime remixes i picked up a bootleg copy of derrick mays wildtime remixes at gramamphone the other day. the label has no info beyond this, and i was wondering if someone could enlighten me on what and when these remixes are from. Sorry if this has already come up- i've deleted a lot of 313 mail lately ps- this is something to keep an eye out for if you dont have it already- and the bootleg is hard to miss- has DERRICK MAY in huge letters on the label :) p - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] RE: Recycled Loops
the primevil record and both re-loops 01 and 02 (with the rock the disco tech sample) are uros umek and valentino kanzyani. 03 (just out) is only umek. 04 will be only valentino. ___ ____ ___ ___ ___ (_- / _ \ / // __// -_)/ -_)/ -_) /___// .__//_/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ /_/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ.4627247.altere.a.mimica. www.spiceee.com - Original Message - From: Dennis Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED] | It definitely is not.. | | Recycled loops (the first one) on Primevil is done by Umek Uros and | Kanzyani (first name is too difficult to remember). the second instance | that I know about is on a different label and has a much housier feel : | includes the lyrics: rock the disco tech this one is only Umek (I | beleive) | Unless there are other ones floating around, those would disclude Richard | Harvey AKA user AKA Dean Cole.
nortroute.net broadcast taking off
for those now online nortroute has started again! so tune in http://nortroute.net it will be pleasant again
For Ani at Recordtime (delete)
Ani at recordtime please e-me. I'm sorry everybody for posting this. Five
Scion at DEMF
Just listening to Scion's DEMF set, and I can't get over how talented these guys are - definitely some of the best live I've ever heard. Damn I wish I could've been there ;) (and that i had a Hi-Fi recording of their set)... Christian Bloch www.mp3.com/bloch Tresor/LL/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque Droppings/Set.Go
