Re: [313] Theo Parrish
They ARE cdrs and I'd bet good money that Theo himself is doing them. jeff To add to the pile of unsubstantiation, it's my understanding that they're CD-R as Vince said, and that Theo is releasing them. Tristan
DEMF guide
did anyone end up putting a DEMF guide together? * ani * wrote: i will be making a guide for all you out of towners, which will list record stores, clubs, restaurants, and have maps of the area and other info. i'll probably post it online soon, and have copies here at record time and down at the festival. any suggestions for content??? Michael Taylor wrote: It occured to me that people might get alot of use out of some kind of 313 demf weekend FAQ. Something that will give them useful telephone numbers, restaurant recommendations, event guides, gettting around in Detroit tips...ect. 10 or 15 pages of dense detroit info for a tourist.
angel alanis and colette this sat
club one will be hosting angel alanis and colette this sat. cinco de mayo (may 5th, duh) check out this site for more info http://01-LA.com/thankyou.htm or call 323 692-3652 10 before 10pm/20 after also.if you get a chance check out www.angelalanis.com, sign the guestbook and tell that motha to spin some techno before he bores us to the house crowd -v _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ---BeginMessage--- ---End Message---
RE: [313] Theo Parrish
Here's what Bent Crayon has to say about these cd's : PARRISH, THEO: Theo Live @ The Temple CD (SOUND DIGNATURE). A series of mix CDs from Theo Parrish. These are CDRs, in jewel cases with no packaging, no track listings or further information. Produced in very small numbers and only briefly available. A pefect view of the crude immediacy of Theo's DJ-ing style, mixing Fingers-esque Chicago classics with disco, soul, acid and new wave tangents. The next best thing to having Mr. Parrish sitting in your tub ruining all of your records. 16.99 PARRISH, THEO: Eclectic Asthetic Pt I CD (SOUND SIGNATURE). Live Theo Parrish DJ Set, recorded somewhere at sometime, very raw and very live. Parrish eschews what most consider essentials these days in his live sets (supreme fidelity, mathematical beatmatching and programming), opting instead for a style that is more open and intuitive; it seems he is more concerned with the truly vital information encoded on a record, the ineffable elements that allow him to create atmosphere, and embroil the listener/partygoer in a narrative, a myth. As on his own productions, Parrish uses the basic tools of the mixer, the faders and filters to devastating effect; and one of Parrish's great talents as a mixer is a style whose seeming crudity belies it's subtlety. Volume levels go up and down seemingly at random, or the the low end might disappear completely for almost too long, leaving only a squashed transistor radio sound, only to come crashing back at just when you think you can't take it anymore. On this disc, his selection runs the gamut from 70's funk and Afrobeat, deep house and soul, and more than one juncture a tune so brazen that it's shocking, but ultimately it works; it always takes you somewhere, sometimes to places you weren't even aware of. -- Billy Kiely 16.99 PARRISH, THEO: Eclectic Asthetic Pt II CD (SOUND SIGNATURE). Part 2 of the pair, picking up where the first volume of this DJ set leaves off, and Parrish takes us a bit deeper into the night with a slightly more set tempo groove, and from the sound of this he's burning the house down. More killer funk and house classics, and I don't want to ruin many surprises but when Parrish starts teasing us with bits of Stevie Wonder's 'Boogie on Reggae Woman', fading pieces into the mix, and then drops it in full effect, I know that at least I grinned and said to myself 'Oh boy do I love records!'; now who doesn't like being able to say that? The whole set closes with Parrish's stellarremix of Recloose's 'I Can't Take It' -- so it winds down nicely and then it's time to go home. Truly an education. -- Billy Kiely 16.99 PARRISH, THEO: Theo Live In Japan CD (SOUND SIGNATURE). 16.99 Jurri -Original Message- From: kurt(bway.net) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 1 mei 2001 21:32 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Theo Parrish was kind of astonished to find not one but four new (?) Theo Parrish CDs at kim's in the east village (nyc) today. --Live in Japan --Eclectic Asthetic part 1 --Eclectic Asthetic part 2 --Live @ the Temple 2000 anyone know what the deal is with these? odd that they come in jewel cases sans packaging...are they bootlegs? just listened to a chunk of Eclectic Asthetic 1 and it sounded really fantastic... kurt - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Interesting Insight
Mildly offtopic, and I apologize in advance http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/cool/ Documentary on the feedback loop between what 's cool and what marketers use to be down with teens. Conclusion is that Detroit's own ICP is ripe for being co-opted. KISS2 anyone? I'm thankful that true Detroit techno escaped by virtue of its happening early enough, and under the radar. What I wonder though: Detroit has a tradition of musical innovation, which might be subject to greater attention in the near future. What other scenes are still virgin and raging? -- There4IM
Cherry Bomb?
Can anyone tell me what label the new Cherry Bomb/Richard Brown release is on? Peace ben
RE: [313] Cherry Bomb?
Its on Music Man. It features three tracks recorded from live performances and one new studio track. Respect JasonB -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 2:03 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Cherry Bomb? Can anyone tell me what label the new Cherry Bomb/Richard Brown release is on? Peace ben - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Theo Parrish
These are official Sound Signature releases. In addition to the four CDs listed, there is one mixed by DJ Fusion, apparently Theo's mate, titled DJ Fusion Does Fusion. Respect JasonB -- From: kurt(bway.net)[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 4:31 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Theo Parrish was kind of astonished to find not one but four new (?) Theo Parrish CDs at kim's in the east village (nyc) today. --Live in Japan --Eclectic Asthetic part 1 --Eclectic Asthetic part 2 --Live @ the Temple 2000 anyone know what the deal is with these? odd that they come in jewel cases sans packaging...are they bootlegs? just listened to a chunk of Eclectic Asthetic 1 and it sounded really fantastic... kurt - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] All Your Base Are Belong To Us (?)
Mike Taylor wrote: it sounds leik Jeffk has joined the 313 list. anybody else think that if jeffk was a techno producer, he'd be oliver chestler/the horrorist? we were ona mishun ... FRO ECSXSTACSCY !!!111 glyn
betoni. #14
#14 Live At Zulu Mixed by Dany Materpiece - Electro http://www.adapteri.com/betoni
!313 - Herbert
well theres been a lot of talk of Matthew Herbert. id never heard his stuff until just knownot really 313 material but many people like many things... as the good Dr Pepper says 'try it, you might just like it' http://www.studio-k7.com/artists/097.html it looks like a it gonna be a warm afternoon here in Leeds i hope i can pick this up over lunch time, seems perfect to 'chill to' anyone know of the release date ? Rav
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I just thought I'd tell anyone who is still looking for a (supercheap) place to stay close to the Hart Plaza. I just booked a private room at the Park Avenue Hostel for only $120/week. Many thanks to Tofugirl, Kelli and Tim for the tips! /Hansi __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Herbert
Rav wrote: well theres been a lot of talk of Matthew Herbert. id never heard his stuff until just knownot really 313 material but many people like many things... as the good Dr Pepper says 'try it, you might just like it' http://www.studio-k7.com/artists/097.html it looks like a it gonna be a warm afternoon here in Leeds i hope i can pick this up over lunch time, seems perfect to 'chill to' anyone know of the release date ? i'm not sure when the album's out, but i'd definitely recommend you check Herbert's Leave Me Now 12 on K7 Records which was released a coupla weeks back. the original track is excellent - soulful minimal 'Herbert house' (tm), with a vocal to die for from Dani Siciliano! also features nice remixes from Recloose and Richard Devine. another recent Herbert release which is well worth hunting down is Dr Rockit Cafe de Flore on his own Lifelike label. as usual it's got that 'Herbert house' (tm) feel, with a lovely summery vibe. i think it must be the accordians. remix from Charles Webster on this one. rob _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Re: [313] Amsterdam May 21-26
At 15:11 28-4-01 -0400, you wrote: I'm going to be in Amsterdam these on these dates - Any cool teschno/IDM events going? Thanks. Peace. Hi, I'd like to add some urls http://www.paradiso.nl/ http://www.melkweg.nl http://www.mazzo.nl/ http://www.sinners.nl http://www.waakzaamheid.nl closeby Amsterdam greetings Pieter Pieter Lub Universiteitsbibliotheek Amsterdam / Amsterdam University Library Interbibliothecair Leenverkeer / Inter Library Loan Postbus 19185 NL-1000 GD Amsterdam The Netherlands e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http ://www.uba.uva.nl http ://www.uba.uva.nl/nl/diensten/ibl.html http ://www.tv-99-ad.com http ://www.mp3.com/artists/30/tv99ad.html http ://www.vennep-flyers.nl/ tel. + 31 (0)20-525 2322 fax + 31 (0)20-623 6070
RE: [313] Herbert
Herbert - UK Release date 14-05-200available on pre order atm. anyone know of the release date ? i'm not sure when the album's out, but i'd definitely recommend you check Herbert's Leave Me Now 12 on K7 Records which was released a coupla weeks back. the original track is excellent - soulful minimal 'Herbert house' (tm), with a vocal to die for from Dani Siciliano! also features nice remixes from Recloose and Richard Devine. another recent Herbert release which is well worth hunting down is Dr Rockit Cafe de Flore on his own Lifelike label. as usual it's got that 'Herbert house' (tm) feel, with a lovely summery vibe. i think it must be the accordians. remix from Charles Webster on this one.
No Vogel at DEMF
From the No Future Message board. Message by Cristian Vogel: Due to total classic US behind the scenes confusion and mistrust and mis-communication , I AM NOT playing anywhere in Detroit for the music festival weekend I am sorry to you all who were looking forward to it Hmmm, confusion, mistrust, miscommunication...??? Seems like not everything is running smoothly. John _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
faceless techno b******s
So recently I was mulling over the way UR and Maurizio/Basic Channel refuse to be photographed and rarely ever give interviews, and how this facelessness projects to music consumers and how it adds to the general air of mystique surrounding the artist. Can anyone point to other bands or musicians who have employed this tactic, whether they be from the realms of techno and/or dance music or any other genres? And does anyone have any points to make on the effect of such a policy? As a starter for ten, did you know that David Soul (in his pre-Starsky Hutch days) used to eke out a living as a singer songwriter called The Masked Man? He would take to the stage in a mask and cloak because he said he wanted people to concentrate on the music, although he admits he soon became better-known for the gimmick rather than his songs. - Tom
cocoon pressrelease
For those who are interested... It seems even the techno-posse need some sunshine now and then:) Martijn ´WHOEVER THOUGHT IBIZA IS OVER-FILLED, TOO LOUD AND A TOUCH TOO SLEAZY, JUST ALWAYS COMPLETELY AVOIDED THE ISLAND IN THE PAST. EVER SINCE SVEN VÄTH STARTED ROCKING THE ISLAND WITH COCOON CLUB AT AMNESIA TWO YEARS AGO, ALL QUALITY ELECTRONIC MUSIC-LOVERS CAN BOARD A PLANE WITH THE RELIEVING THOUGHT OF BEING ABLE TO ENJOY THE SUNNY ISLAND IN ALL ITíS DIMENSIONS. STARTING WITH 4 DATES IN 1999, THE 14 DATES IN 2000 SHOWED THAT ELECTRONIC MUSIC DOESNíT NECESSARILY MEAN PARTYING TO HAPPY HOUSE AT ABSURDLY IDENTICAL PARTIES. IN 2001, EVERYTHING WILL BE EVEN QUALTITATIVELY BETTER. AMNESIA HAS BEEN COMPLETELY RENNOVATED, OPTIMIZING THE ATMOSPHERE AND ALSO THE SOUND IN THE CLUB. BESIDE SVEN VÄTH'S VERY REGULAR GIGS IN AMNESIA, LINE-UP BOASTS THE CREME DE LA CREME... CARL COX, DJ HELL, RICHIE HAWTIN, JEFF MILLS, CHRIS LIEBING, FRANK LORBER, TONI RIOS, ALTER EGO, PASCAL F.E.O.S., OLIVER BONDZIO, HEIKO LAUX AND MORE. FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME THIS YEAR, COCOON OFFERS STILL THIRSTY CLUBBERS ITíS VERY OWN OFFICIAL AFTER HOUR AT CLUB ´COVA SANTA´ ALSO EMJAY.DE AND COCOON.NET WILL TRANSMIT EVERY NIGHT LIVE ON INTERNET, SO YOU GUYS AT HOME DON`T HAVE MISS OUT ON THE MUSIC!! COCOON IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAIN FLOOR (TECHNO). THE HOUSE GARDEN WILL BE COORDINATED BY M1íS BUBBI SCHUSTER. AGAIN, THE TOP LEAGUE IN THE HOUSE SEGMENT WILL BE SEEN PERFORMING WEEK AFTER WEEK IN AMNESIA...JOSH WINK, STEVE BUG, ATA, DERRICK CARTER RICARDO VILLALOBOS, TO NAME BUT A FEW. IN ADDITION, IN FOUR DATES FUNKY CHICKEN CLUB (COLOGNE) AND FLAMINGO (ESSEN) WILL HAVE THE CHANCE TO PRESSENT THEMSELVES ON AMNESIA´s TERRASE. I LOVE TECHNO (GENT) WILL HOST AN EVENING ON THE MAIN FLOOR WITH MARCO BAILEY, G-FORCE UND MARCO CAROLA. MORE THAN ENOUGH FACTS TO PROMISE AN UNFORGETTABLE SUMMER 2001? 18/06/2001 SVEN VÄTH, TERENCE FIXMER LIVE, SARA *FUTURE FUNK UND SEBASTIAN KRIEG 25/06/2001 RICHIE HAWTIN, FRANK LORBER, TONI RIOS *TOM NOVY, TUNE BROTHERS 02/07/2001 SVEN VÄTH, PASCAL FEOS *FUNKY CHICKEN STOP FEAT. DISCO GESSNER, ERIC D. CLARK, GUEST TBC 09/07/2001 CHRIS LIEBING, STEVE RACHMAD, JUSTIN BERKOVI LIVE *RICARDO VILLALOBOS, 100%ISIS, DANNY DEE 16/07/2001 SVEN VÄTH, RICHIE HAWTIN *JOHN ACQUAVIVA, ATA 23/07/2001 SVEN VÄTH, RICHARD BARTZ LIVE *THE FLAMINGO SESSIONS: FEAT. DJ PIPPI, DANIEL KLEIN, MICHA K CUTMASTER JAY 30/07/2001 SVEN VÄTH, CARL COX, JEFF MILLS *JOSH WINK, STEVE BUG, ARIAN 06/08/001 I LOVE TECHNO STOP FEAT. MARCO CAROLA, MARCO BAILEY, G-FORCE *FUNKY CHICKEN STOP FEAT. DISCO GESSNER, HANS NIESWANDT, GUEST 13/08/2001 SVEN VÄTH, TONI RIOS, TECHNASIA LIVE *DIEGO ROCCA, C-WILLY 20/08/2001 RICHIE HAWTIN, PASCAL FEOS THE FLAMINGO SESSIONS FEAT. TONKA, FABIEN D'ESTIVAL, GUEST TBC 27/08/2001 SVEN VÄTH, CARL COX, ALTER EGO LIVE STEVE BUG, JEF K, ARIAN 03/09/2001 HELL, HEIKO LAUX, FRANK LORBER *TOBI NEUMANN, DANI KÖNIG, SEBASTIAN KRIEG 10/09/2001 OLIVER BONDZIO, ANTHONY ROTHER LIVE, CHRIS LIEBING *TIEFSCHWARZ, C-WILLY 17/09/2001 SVEN VÄTH, RICHIE HAWTIN, HARDFLOOR LIVE *DERRICK CARTER, RICARDO VILLALOBOS *HOUSE GARDEN HOSTED BY M1, FUNKY CHICKEN CLUB AND FLAMINGO Searchline IIC Van Breestraat 154 P.O. Box 9292 1006 AG Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel: +31 (0)20 578 86 86 Fax: +31 (0)20 662 92 81 http://www.searchline-iic.com Disclaimer: This e-mail and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies(wich may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from Searchline IIC, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient.If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the system manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] No Vogel at DEMF
yeah, well...vogel has always been a miserable, moody fr though. - Original Message - From: John Osselaer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:38 AM Subject: [313] No Vogel at DEMF From the No Future Message board. Message by Cristian Vogel: Due to total classic US behind the scenes confusion and mistrust and mis-communication , I AM NOT playing anywhere in Detroit for the music festival weekend I am sorry to you all who were looking forward to it Hmmm, confusion, mistrust, miscommunication...??? Seems like not everything is running smoothly. John _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gigolo and Arnie - the showdown
Apologies if this has already been mentioned, but it's news to me. Remember the post a while ago about how Arnold Schwarzenegger was taking legal action to stop DJ Hell using his image as the logo for International DeeJay Gigolos? I rang Gigolo at the time and they flatly denied it. Well, it seems they aren't denying it now: go to the news section of www.gigolo-records.de for a statement, and also see how they have replaced the Arnie photo with one of Sid Vicious - who, let's face it, is rather less likely to sue! Arnie doesn't seem to have anything to say on the matter on his own site, though: www.schwarzenegger.com Cheers, - Tom
RE: [313] faceless techno b******s
I have never seen pictures and/or interviews with Mojo. You can't take pictures anymore from Daft Punk also. The only pictures they make nowadays are from those Robot masks. There is also a record on eevolute dedicated to this: EEVO 013 - Faceless Techno Bastards -- Are a complete hype They played a live set just once in Eindhoven wearing really silly masks. [EMAIL PROTECTED] So recently I was mulling over the way UR and Maurizio/Basic Channel refuse to be photographed and rarely ever give interviews, and how this facelessness projects to music consumers and how it adds to the general air of mystique surrounding the artist. Can anyone point to other bands or musicians who have employed this tactic, whether they be from the realms of techno and/or dance music or any other genres? And does anyone have any points to make on the effect of such a policy?
Re: [313] faceless techno b******s
Yeah same goes with ICP. I think the clown-thing helped them out alot. I think it's kind of a cool image that UR portrays. Their website gives that 'badass', 'we don't give a shxt if we're recognized' image to UR artists IMO. I can respect that... TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: [313] No Vogel at DEMF
I think that things are probably running as expected. Remember this is the biggest event to happen in history for us. =) Here's a brain teaser for the group. Well, more like a research project. How big was Woodstock? Does the DEMF caompare to Woodstock? It seems to me like it does (without doing any research of course). It makes sense that things would run amuck (spelling!) in this situation... Take care fellow 313'ers!!! BTW Joel Mull is a pretty good DJ (Live at Karma), but does the announcer remind anyone else of a WWF announcer? He sounds like a goofball when he rustically yells It's Friday Night Karma =) TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: [313] faceless techno b******s
Ever since heard of them, I've thought that Insane Clown Posse is the coolest band name I've ever heard! :-) Of course, when I say 'UR', I mean primarily Mad Mike - Rolando has frequently been photographed in the wake of 'Jaguar', although I'm not sure about Suburban Knight (anyone?), and I think Drexciya take a similar no-photos stance. As do Dopplereffekt, now I come to think about it. - Tom Yeah same goes with ICP. I think the clown-thing helped them out alot. I think it's kind of a cool image that UR portrays. Their website gives that 'badass', 'we don't give a shxt if we're recognized' image to UR artists IMO. I can respect that... TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
records fa
Im auctioning off a shit load of oldschool techno and hardcore stuff at the mo, should be adding lots more over the next few days. If anyones interested you can view it here : http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItemsuserid=grantsmus icinclude=0since=-1sort=2rows=25 Cheers, grant
RE: [313] faceless techno b******s
There is also a record on eevolute dedicated to this: EEVO 013 - Faceless Techno Bastards -- Are a complete hype They played a live set just once in Eindhoven wearing really silly masks. such a great record too! classic eevo...max404 and stefan robbers in disguise? i can hear the pads from 'slut' right now even...ingrained in memory..chilling.. there are photos on one of the dopplereffekt labels btw, someone said no..sterilization? cant remember. jt _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] faceless techno b******s
Come to think of it, I've seen pictures of Suburban Knight on the UR website as well as on a venue somewhere. I just can't remember where!?!?!?!? TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
records fa
Im auctioning off a shit load of oldschool techno, house and hardcore stuff at the mo, should be adding lots more over the next few days. If anyones interested you can view it here : http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItemsuserid=grantsmusicinclude=0since=-1sort=2rows=25 Cheers, grant
Re: [313] faceless techno b******s
how about tool? none of their videos that i have seen have any footage of the band, i don't think they do interviews, and when i saw them in concert the lead singer's face was painted. l On Wed, 2 May 2001, Tom Robbins wrote: So recently I was mulling over the way UR and Maurizio/Basic Channel refuse to be photographed and rarely ever give interviews, and how this facelessness projects to music consumers and how it adds to the general air of mystique surrounding the artist. Can anyone point to other bands or musicians who have employed this tactic, whether they be from the realms of techno and/or dance music or any other genres? And does anyone have any points to make on the effect of such a policy? As a starter for ten, did you know that David Soul (in his pre-Starsky Hutch days) used to eke out a living as a singer songwriter called The Masked Man? He would take to the stage in a mask and cloak because he said he wanted people to concentrate on the music, although he admits he soon became better-known for the gimmick rather than his songs. - Tom - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] No Vogel at DEMF
- Original Message - From: John Osselaer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 6:38 AM Subject: [313] No Vogel at DEMF From the No Future Message board. Message by Cristian Vogel: Due to total classic US behind the scenes confusion and mistrust and mis-communication , I AM NOT playing anywhere in Detroit for the music festival weekend I am sorry to you all who were looking forward to it I'm a huge Vogel fan, and this is unfortunate, but the bright side is that this almost clears up what was the hardest choice of the festival in my mind. Now I just have to chose between Kit Clayton and Glenn Underground. Anyone heard A Vogel mix from '95 that was from German radio (I believe)? A friend gave me a copy the other day. It's out of control. Tristan -- http://ampcast.com/phonopsia - Music http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Mixes, pics, thought, travelogue info http://www.metatrackstudios.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email FrogboyMCI - AOL Instant Messenger _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [313] faceless techno b******s
I'll open the can of worms! Perhaps, and just perhaps, some people realize that there is/has been a graphic revolution especially in America. Many people now desire a picture, photograph, music video etcto associate with an artist. Perhaps, and I make direct reference to Mr. Banks, he saying---who gives a flyin fluck what the h*ll I look like, if the music is tight then ___(fill in the blank). Ultimately, it all points, and YES this is just my .005 cents worth of an opinion, back to the fact that many of us are just about the image. And does anyone have any points to make on the effect of such a policy? It causes a subtle change in the way people are acustomed to things, it goes against the grains of this graphic revolution, it serves as a basis for change. The mask issue deserves no comment. End of Transmission - Original Message - From: Tom Robbins Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 6:00 AM To: 313 mailing list Subject: [313] faceless techno b**s So recently I was mulling over the way UR and Maurizio/Basic Channel refuse to be photographed and rarely ever give interviews, and how this facelessness projects to music consumers and how it adds to the general air of mystique surrounding the artist. Can anyone point to other bands or musicians who have employed this tactic, whether they be from the realms of techno and/or dance music or any other genres? And does anyone have any points to make on the effect of such a policy? As a starter for ten, did you know that David Soul (in his pre-Starsky Hutch days) used to eke out a living as a singer songwriter called The Masked Man? He would take to the stage in a mask and cloak because he said he wanted people to concentrate on the music, although he admits he soon became better-known for the gimmick rather than his songs. - Tom - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]br clear=allhrGet your FREE download of MSN Explorer at a href=http://explorer.msn.com;http://explorer.msn.com/abr/p
Re: [313] faceless techno b******s
i always smile when i see the jaguar vid on MTV, cos there's that great bit where theres a close up/head shot of all (?) the UR members, and then it gets to mike and he's still got his balaclava onfantastic. - Original Message - From: Tom Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [313] faceless techno b**s Ever since heard of them, I've thought that Insane Clown Posse is the coolest band name I've ever heard! :-) Of course, when I say 'UR', I mean primarily Mad Mike - Rolando has frequently been photographed in the wake of 'Jaguar', although I'm not sure about Suburban Knight (anyone?), and I think Drexciya take a similar no-photos stance. As do Dopplereffekt, now I come to think about it. - Tom Yeah same goes with ICP. I think the clown-thing helped them out alot. I think it's kind of a cool image that UR portrays. Their website gives that 'badass', 'we don't give a shxt if we're recognized' image to UR artists IMO. I can respect that... TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] faceless techno b******s
erm...am i just being stoopid here, but whats the url for the UR website? i always thought it was just www.submerge.com, but have they got their own site too? im sure i must have seen it if they have...maybe im slowly loosing the plot...;) - Original Message - From: T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [313] faceless techno b**s Come to think of it, I've seen pictures of Suburban Knight on the UR website as well as on a venue somewhere. I just can't remember where!?!?!?!? TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] faceless techno b******s
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 04:51:58AM -0700, T. J. Johnson wrote: Come to think of it, I've seen pictures of Suburban Knight on the UR website as well as on a venue somewhere. I just can't remember where!?!?!?!? There's one on TechnoTourist.org taken at a party @ Motor in december 1999. http://technotourist.org/partytime/313party/31320.jpg Hans -- Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://technotourist.org http://www.TV-99-AD.com
RE: [313] faceless techno b******s flame me
underground resistance have a video that gets played on MTV? whats underground about that? flame me ab [flip the scrip and down pitch the speed] -Original Message- From: tim maughan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 9:19 PM To: Tom Robbins; 313 mailing list Subject: Re: [313] faceless techno b**s i always smile when i see the jaguar vid on MTV, cos there's that great bit where theres a close up/head shot of all (?) the UR members, and then it gets to mike and he's still got his balaclava onfantastic. - Original Message - From: Tom Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [313] faceless techno b**s Ever since heard of them, I've thought that Insane Clown Posse is the coolest band name I've ever heard! :-) Of course, when I say 'UR', I mean primarily Mad Mike - Rolando has frequently been photographed in the wake of 'Jaguar', although I'm not sure about Suburban Knight (anyone?), and I think Drexciya take a similar no-photos stance. As do Dopplereffekt, now I come to think about it. - Tom Yeah same goes with ICP. I think the clown-thing helped them out alot. I think it's kind of a cool image that UR portrays. Their website gives that 'badass', 'we don't give a shxt if we're recognized' image to UR artists IMO. I can respect that... TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] faceless techno b******s flame me
underground resistance have a video that gets played on MTV? whats underground about that? flame me ab Ok =) They are about as underground as was the Underground Railroad. It's a name dude. TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
T. Linder Birthday Party at Lager House
I am going to post this now, hopefully this will go threw before 10pm tonight. Tonight @ the Lager house will be the OFFICIAL T.Linder Birthday party. With Special guest DJ's dj minx (W.O.W.) Buzz Bangin' Goree (Underground resistance) So come out and show some love for the one known as T.Linder, and hear some good ass music. Last time Minx was there she tore the house down, smooth mix's, amazing track selection. And just as his name says' Buzz will be Bangin' house all night long. Come out its a good time. 18+ $5 21+ $8 Directions: www.mapquest.com (1254 MICHIGAN AVE DETROIT, MI. 48226) Matthew Gerbasi |l| Darcy Detroit lll Cadillac Regional Traffic|l| 248-458-8567|l| [EMAIL PROTECTED] aka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eliminate your ego by having self confidence without pride -- Basi
Re: [313] UR site
www.undergroundresistance.com erm...am i just being stoopid here, but whats the url for the UR website? i always thought it was just www.submerge.com, but have they got their own site too? im sure i must have seen it if they have...maybe im slowly loosing the plot...;) - Original Message - From: T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [313] faceless techno b**s Come to think of it, I've seen pictures of Suburban Knight on the UR website as well as on a venue somewhere. I just can't remember where!?!?!?!? TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] faceless techno b******s
yeah...im in the uk..we get a load of MTV channels here: MTV Europe (plays a lot of crap - like MTV US i guess) MTV 2 (plays mainly alternative rock - with sprinkling of techno) MTV Bass (hip-hop/rnb) and MTV Dance, usually pretty commercial but with the odd gem. so between them we actually get to see that vid quite alot. plus, when it first came out - the breakfast dj on radio 1 (ultra commercial station) decided he liked it, and played it EVERY morning at 6.45 for about 8 weeks... which was cool;) - Original Message - From: T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [313] faceless techno b**s hEY tIM, WHEN DO YOU SEE THE JAGUAR VID ON MTV? tHE ONLY THING I EVER CATCH ON THERE IS trl. iS 120 MINUTES STILL AROUND? Whoops sorry bout the caps I just realized!!! =) Are you in the UK or Europe by chance? TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
c. vogel and detroit don't mix
he was scheduled to play at motor a couple months ago, but had visa problems. l
Re: [313] faceless techno b******s
This should be private shouldn't it? Also, I think everyone on Earth knows about BBC Radio 1 as the BBC is one of the (if not THE) oldest broadcasting organisation/s in the world... Yahoo is very poor and has been for weeks, it seems I only get crap mail through recently... Thanks, Nick:) --- tim maughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah...im in the uk..we get a load of MTV channels here: MTV Europe (plays a lot of crap - like MTV US i guess) MTV 2 (plays mainly alternative rock - with sprinkling of techno) MTV Bass (hip-hop/rnb) and MTV Dance, usually pretty commercial but with the odd gem. so between them we actually get to see that vid quite alot. plus, when it first came out - the breakfast dj on radio 1 (ultra commercial station) decided he liked it, and played it EVERY morning at 6.45 for about 8 weeks... which was cool;) - Original Message - From: T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [313] faceless techno b**s hEY tIM, WHEN DO YOU SEE THE JAGUAR VID ON MTV? tHE ONLY THING I EVER CATCH ON THERE IS trl. iS 120 MINUTES STILL AROUND? Whoops sorry bout the caps I just realized!!! =) Are you in the UK or Europe by chance? TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Next Generation DJs - Logic 7 (313's George Jones)
Next Generation DJs - The Series Where: CJAM 91.5 Windsor/Detroit Streaming go to: http://www.uwindsor.ca/cjam/ When: 05.02.01 2359-0200 Host: DJ Revolver (steven roy) This week's feature: Logic 7 (313 list member George Jones) The underground radio series that profiles young, next generation techno, house, and experimental techno DJs and producers from Windsor, Detroit, and Toronto continues. Tonight's profile is Logic 7 and I'll be playing his latest live mixed CD OTHERWORLD which is a well blended and emotional compilation of minimal Detroit/Berlin techno and electro. A combination of Logic 7's mixing skills and incredible track selection will make this a spiritual and satisfying listen for all electronic music lovers. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Re: [313] faceless techno b******s
I have a very extensive fotoshoot of James Pennington. When I went to interview James last year in August my photographer joined me and we took James to an old coalmine and to a carwreckyard next to a railway. I gave James my UR-sweater resulting in some kick ass pictures if I may say so. You can find one picture on the site of Underground Committee: http://www.undergroundcommittee.com under Articles. In print the interview including some pictures has been published in both Bassic Groove (Dutch) and Overload (UK). Peace, John From: Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: T. J. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] faceless techno b**s Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 14:52:49 +0200 On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 04:51:58AM -0700, T. J. Johnson wrote: Come to think of it, I've seen pictures of Suburban Knight on the UR website as well as on a venue somewhere. I just can't remember where!?!?!?!? There's one on TechnoTourist.org taken at a party @ Motor in december 1999. http://technotourist.org/partytime/313party/31320.jpg Hans -- Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://technotourist.org http://www.TV-99-AD.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Gratitude to the group
I just want to take this special moment to express my gratitude to the [313] group. Before this group I was nothing. Just a boy with a dream to one-day spin some great music an to hopefully spin my own tracks one day. Since my [313] admission I have learned of DJ Shufflemaster, DJ T 1000 (holy shxt!), Gary Martin, Claude Young, Tresor Label, UR, Blake Baxter, and just waaay too many more to mention. My vinyl collection has grown to over twenty albums in 2-weeks and I think I have been able to make good, educated selections because of you, 313 (wiping tear from my cheek). So, if you ever feel like you might be wasting airwaves with your off-topic techno-talk and your miniscuel (spelling!) critiques of music, and your controversial discussion and opinion throwing, STOP IT! I [EMAIL PROTECTED] love you guys! Ok back to reality. Really, though. Keep up the excellent work guys and, as always, happy 313ing! TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: [313] UR site
thanx to EVERYONE that sent me that link...as helpful as always! peace t - Original Message - From: Tom Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [313] UR site www.undergroundresistance.com erm...am i just being stoopid here, but whats the url for the UR website? i always thought it was just www.submerge.com, but have they got their own site too? im sure i must have seen it if they have...maybe im slowly loosing the plot...;) - Original Message - From: T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [313] faceless techno b**s Come to think of it, I've seen pictures of Suburban Knight on the UR website as well as on a venue somewhere. I just can't remember where!?!?!?!? TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Gratitude to the group
WOW...Ill have whatever TJ is drinkiing :-) Rav -Original Message- From: T.J.Johnson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 2:19 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Gratitude to the group I just want to take this special moment to express my gratitude to the [313] group. Before this group I was nothing. Just a boy with a dream to one-day spin some great music an to hopefully spin my own tracks one day. Since my [313] admission I have learned of DJ Shufflemaster, DJ T 1000 (holy shxt!), Gary Martin, Claude Young, Tresor Label, UR, Blake Baxter, and just waaay too many more to mention. My vinyl collection has grown to over twenty albums in 2-weeks and I think I have been able to make good, educated selections because of you, 313 (wiping tear from my cheek). So, if you ever feel like you might be wasting airwaves with your off-topic techno-talk and your miniscuel (spelling!) critiques of music, and your controversial discussion and opinion throwing, STOP IT! I [EMAIL PROTECTED] love you guys! Ok back to reality. Really, though. Keep up the excellent work guys and, as always, happy 313ing! TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] faceless techno b******s
sorry. - Original Message - From: Nick Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [313] faceless techno b**s This should be private shouldn't it? Also, I think everyone on Earth knows about BBC Radio 1 as the BBC is one of the (if not THE) oldest broadcasting organisation/s in the world... Yahoo is very poor and has been for weeks, it seems I only get crap mail through recently... Thanks, Nick:) --- tim maughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah...im in the uk..we get a load of MTV channels here: MTV Europe (plays a lot of crap - like MTV US i guess) MTV 2 (plays mainly alternative rock - with sprinkling of techno) MTV Bass (hip-hop/rnb) and MTV Dance, usually pretty commercial but with the odd gem. so between them we actually get to see that vid quite alot. plus, when it first came out - the breakfast dj on radio 1 (ultra commercial station) decided he liked it, and played it EVERY morning at 6.45 for about 8 weeks... which was cool;) - Original Message - From: T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [313] faceless techno b**s hEY tIM, WHEN DO YOU SEE THE JAGUAR VID ON MTV? tHE ONLY THING I EVER CATCH ON THERE IS trl. iS 120 MINUTES STILL AROUND? Whoops sorry bout the caps I just realized!!! =) Are you in the UK or Europe by chance? TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Recommendations?
Hi Guys, I've just moved to Amsterdam, and I'm looking for a little advice on where I can buy records, who are the decent djs in town, where I can hear really good techno.. etc. I've checked out the scene a bit, but it's a little bewildering when all the names are new to you... Thanks a lot, Jamil
Re: [313] Gratitude to the group
I agree. I think sometimes we take our knowledge of music for granted. All of your opinions and diverse listening suggestions can help all of us learn more and experience more, especially people who's ears are new to electronic music. From: T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Gratitude to the group Date: 2 May 2001 06:18:48 -0700 I just want to take this special moment to express my gratitude to the [313] group. Before this group I was nothing. Just a boy with a dream to one-day spin some great music an to hopefully spin my own tracks one day. Since my [313] admission I have learned of DJ Shufflemaster, DJ T 1000 (holy shxt!), Gary Martin, Claude Young, Tresor Label, UR, Blake Baxter, and just waaay too many more to mention. My vinyl collection has grown to over twenty albums in 2-weeks and I think I have been able to make good, educated selections because of you, 313 (wiping tear from my cheek). So, if you ever feel like you might be wasting airwaves with your off-topic techno-talk and your miniscuel (spelling!) critiques of music, and your controversial discussion and opinion throwing, STOP IT! I [EMAIL PROTECTED] love you guys! Ok back to reality. Really, though. Keep up the excellent work guys and, as always, happy 313ing! TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
RE: [313] Recommendations?
Thanks a lot, I'll be checking that out now... and such a quick response too! ;) -Original Message- From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 3:33 PM To: Jamil Ali Subject: RE: [313] Recommendations? Hi Guys, I've just moved to Amsterdam, and I'm looking for a little advice on where I can buy records, who are the decent djs in town, where I can hear really good techno.. etc. I've checked out the scene a bit, but it's a little bewildering when all the names are new to you... Hi, we run a mailinglist on hyperreal about dutch techno. You should find plenty of info at our website: http://lowlands.hyperreal.org Hope this helps, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] faceless techno b******s
At 7:57 -0400 5/2/2001, Kyle J Dupuy wrote: how about tool? none of their videos that i have seen have any footage of the band, i don't think they do interviews, and when i saw them in concert the lead singer's face was painted. One of the videos on Salival does, and so does the booklet for Salival. As for interviews, I have one I found on toolshed.down.net -- Cafard, [EMAIL PROTECTED] qu'est-ce que tu penses? AIM:pr0j2501 Matt Kane's Brain http://mkb.n3.net ===jive turkey http://jive-turkey.n3.net===
question about that new k. hand record.
i saw someone gave a review of the new k. hand record on tresor that they got as a promo...does anyone have an actual release date for that or is it already available? i was having difficulty trying to find it and i figured it probably wasn't available for release quite yet. thanks, lauryn. -- ** nothing is an end because it can always be used as a basis for something new and different. -keith haring ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** --
Re: [313] question about that new k. hand record.
4th June, I believe. i saw someone gave a review of the new k. hand record on tresor that they got as a promo...does anyone have an actual release date for that or is it already available? i was having difficulty trying to find it and i figured it probably wasn't available for release quite yet. thanks, lauryn. -- ** nothing is an end because it can always be used as a basis for something new and different. -keith haring ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] faceless techno b******s
All those faceless techno-bands were preceded by the Faceless band of all Times : THE RESIDENTS. Jay.Cee
Re: [313] DEMF guide
Hi, The DEMF FAQ is on its way. Once the Involve Records gig is over, I will get it out. I already have a good amount of source material, I just need to edit it this weekend. I will post a beta version of the document to the list on Monday. Take care, Mike From: tofugirl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] DEMF guide Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 11:46:17 +1000 did anyone end up putting a DEMF guide together? * ani * wrote: i will be making a guide for all you out of towners, which will list record stores, clubs, restaurants, and have maps of the area and other info. i'll probably post it online soon, and have copies here at record time and down at the festival. any suggestions for content??? Michael Taylor wrote: It occured to me that people might get alot of use out of some kind of 313 demf weekend FAQ. Something that will give them useful telephone numbers, restaurant recommendations, event guides, gettting around in Detroit tips...ect. 10 or 15 pages of dense detroit info for a tourist. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
mad mad mad FP! mixes // jack in!
Another mixshow has been added to the flatplastic modular music listening experience! Go and listen. http://www.flatplastic.com ENJOY OUR MUSIC. BUY THE RECORDS. SEE YOU AT DEMF. -- G i l e s D i c k e r s o n A r t D i r e c t o r D I G I T A S / B O S T O N t + 6 1 7 3 6 9 8 6 0 1 m + 6 1 7 8 9 9 9 6 3 5 e + [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] faceless techno b******s
I've got a really cool picture of Thomas Bangalter and Roy Davis Jr. at the Bombay party from the WMC. Ciao. I have never seen pictures and/or interviews with Mojo. You can't take pictures anymore from Daft Punk also. The only pictures they make nowadays are from those Robot masks.
Re: [313] No Vogel at DEMF
No no no! Damn it. I was really looking forward to seeing him. Wonder what the hell that's all about? MEK From: John Osselaer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] No Vogel at DEMF Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 12:38:09 +0200 From the No Future Message board. Message by Cristian Vogel: Due to total classic US behind the scenes confusion and mistrust and mis-communication , I AM NOT playing anywhere in Detroit for the music festival weekend I am sorry to you all who were looking forward to it Hmmm, confusion, mistrust, miscommunication...??? Seems like not everything is running smoothly. John _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Tresor Night @�Limelight, NYC Vol. 4 (12 May)
Maybe now it will make sense to people why KJ and me are already flying to NY on the 10th of May. I had heard about this Tresor-party when I was in Berlin for their tenth birthday and thought: 'What the heck, I'm out of a job, going to the States anyway for the festival so I have to pay the plane anyway and there are always some nice 313-peepz to give a technotourist a space to crash (Thank you Elliot) so' KJ got really hooked by the idea so in about a week you'd better get ready for some badass technotourists invading your country! ;-) John TRESOR BERLIN TEN YEARS STRONG - - - TRESOR NIGHT VOL. 4 - - - Saturday 12 May 2001 - - - at LIMELIGHT CLUB, NYC - - - (corner 6th Ave 20th Street, Manhattan) Confirmed to play this event are: - - - JAMES PENNINGTON aka The SUBURBAN KNIGHT (Underground Resistance/Tresor, Detroit) - - - TOBIAS SCHMIDT (Live) (Sativae/Nest/Tresor, Brighton) - - - DJ PETE (Hard Wax, Berlin) - - - FUNCTION (Infrastructure, NYC) * Attached is the flyer promoting the event. This is the FOURTH chapter in the first-ever series of bi-monthly events uniting the two clubs The LIMELIGHT NYC and TRESOR. FURTHER INFORMATION Limelight Club, NYC 6th Ave 20th Street telephone: +1 212 807 7780 guestlist: +1 212 592 4912 _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Lorber Link
More album info. on Jeff Lorber--the Ian O'Brien of his day--for those interested. BTW, that track Pacific Coast Highway off 'Step by Step' won a Grammy for Best R n B Instrumental back in 1985. Came out on 12 as well. The guys from The System were involved. The Jeff Lorber Fusion: (1977, Inner City) Soft Space: (1978, Inner City) Water Sign: (1979, Arista) Wizard Island: (1980, Arista) Galaxian: (1981, Arista) It's a Fact (1982, Arista) In the Heat of the Night (1984, Arista) Lift Off (1985, Arista) There's also a cd called 'The Definitive Collection' that came out last year on Arista. Check out www.lorber.com/ Wes
RE: [313] Lorber Link
The System - You are in my system ? Nice track I remember it well...reminiscing and drooling atm Rav -Original Message- From: Charles Prince [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 3:56 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Lorber Link More album info. on Jeff Lorber--the Ian O'Brien of his day--for those interested. BTW, that track Pacific Coast Highway off 'Step by Step' won a Grammy for Best R n B Instrumental back in 1985. Came out on 12 as well. The guys from The System were involved. The Jeff Lorber Fusion: (1977, Inner City) Soft Space: (1978, Inner City) Water Sign: (1979, Arista) Wizard Island: (1980, Arista) Galaxian: (1981, Arista) It's a Fact (1982, Arista) In the Heat of the Night (1984, Arista) Lift Off (1985, Arista) There's also a cd called 'The Definitive Collection' that came out last year on Arista. Check out www.lorber.com/ Wes - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mr. Elliot (for elliots only)
Mr. Elliot, Mr. New York City, Mr. DJ Uylesses (spelling!) Mr.Temple Recordsplease respond. thanks d __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Interesting Insight
I caught this re-run of Frontline last night also. Watching the show, it was hard not to think of the Ford marketing campaign with regard to Techno. There were many parallels between what marketing firms do with regard to selling to teens and how Ford is marketing the Focus. It would be interesting to see the results of the focus (no pun intended) groups Ford conducted with people in their late teens and early 20s to determine what is 'cool.' Seemingly, they discovered the techno/electronic music/rave/dance scene. They have a great marketing plan with sponsoring the DEMF and Moby tour. Considering the type of people who attend these types of events along with other 'rave' type events are mostly white, upper-class kids in their late teens and early 20s who can afford a Focus. A Focus is after all, the lowest class of car Ford makes. The best thing Ford can do is make it appealing to those who can afford it. Marketers are the best sociologists. Cheers. From: Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Music Institute 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Interesting Insight Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 00:39:20 -0400 Mildly offtopic, and I apologize in advance http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/cool/ Documentary on the feedback loop between what 's cool and what marketers use to be down with teens. Conclusion is that Detroit's own ICP is ripe for being co-opted. KISS2 anyone? I'm thankful that true Detroit techno escaped by virtue of its happening early enough, and under the radar. What I wonder though: Detroit has a tradition of musical innovation, which might be subject to greater attention in the near future. What other scenes are still virgin and raging? -- There4IM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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interesting fact... last year, ford was promoting the focus, by choosing cool scenesters and giving them cars. in nyc, jackie christie (formerly of the d) got one... peace, h -Original Message- From: John Sokolowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 9:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Interesting Insight I caught this re-run of Frontline last night also. Watching the show, it was hard not to think of the Ford marketing campaign with regard to Techno. There were many parallels between what marketing firms do with regard to selling to teens and how Ford is marketing the Focus. It would be interesting to see the results of the focus (no pun intended) groups Ford conducted with people in their late teens and early 20s to determine what is 'cool.' Seemingly, they discovered the techno/electronic music/rave/dance scene. They have a great marketing plan with sponsoring the DEMF and Moby tour. Considering the type of people who attend these types of events along with other 'rave' type events are mostly white, upper-class kids in their late teens and early 20s who can afford a Focus. A Focus is after all, the lowest class of car Ford makes. The best thing Ford can do is make it appealing to those who can afford it. Marketers are the best sociologists. Cheers. From: Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Music Institute 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Interesting Insight Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 00:39:20 -0400 Mildly offtopic, and I apologize in advance http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/cool/ Documentary on the feedback loop between what 's cool and what marketers use to be down with teens. Conclusion is that Detroit's own ICP is ripe for being co-opted. KISS2 anyone? I'm thankful that true Detroit techno escaped by virtue of its happening early enough, and under the radar. What I wonder though: Detroit has a tradition of musical innovation, which might be subject to greater attention in the near future. What other scenes are still virgin and raging? -- There4IM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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They have a great marketing plan with sponsoring the DEMF and Moby tour. Definitely better than those awful Focus commercials shot in front of the State Theater (?), with a scary-makeup'ed, middle-aged pitchwoman interpreting all the cool things that kids are saying about the car... One of the kids says slammin' tunes 24/7, then she turns to the camera and says quality stereo. Makes me retch much more than most car commercials. .john.
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jesus... i hate it when there are commas where they don't belong. i apologize to anyone this typo caused pain. -Original Message- From: Holly MacDonald-Korth Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 9:36 AM To: 'John Sokolowski'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Interesting Insight interesting fact... last year, ford was promoting the focus, by choosing cool scenesters and giving them cars. in nyc, jackie christie (formerly of the d) got one... peace, h -Original Message- From: John Sokolowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 9:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Interesting Insight I caught this re-run of Frontline last night also. Watching the show, it was hard not to think of the Ford marketing campaign with regard to Techno. There were many parallels between what marketing firms do with regard to selling to teens and how Ford is marketing the Focus. It would be interesting to see the results of the focus (no pun intended) groups Ford conducted with people in their late teens and early 20s to determine what is 'cool.' Seemingly, they discovered the techno/electronic music/rave/dance scene. They have a great marketing plan with sponsoring the DEMF and Moby tour. Considering the type of people who attend these types of events along with other 'rave' type events are mostly white, upper-class kids in their late teens and early 20s who can afford a Focus. A Focus is after all, the lowest class of car Ford makes. The best thing Ford can do is make it appealing to those who can afford it. Marketers are the best sociologists. Cheers. From: Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Music Institute 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Interesting Insight Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 00:39:20 -0400 Mildly offtopic, and I apologize in advance http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/cool/ Documentary on the feedback loop between what 's cool and what marketers use to be down with teens. Conclusion is that Detroit's own ICP is ripe for being co-opted. KISS2 anyone? I'm thankful that true Detroit techno escaped by virtue of its happening early enough, and under the radar. What I wonder though: Detroit has a tradition of musical innovation, which might be subject to greater attention in the near future. What other scenes are still virgin and raging? -- There4IM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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A couple of weeks ago en route to Toronto I parked my car at the satellite Parking lot called ParkEx and got on the shuttle bus the next guy on asked if my equipment was camera equipment. Turns out it was David Fanning the executive producer of Nightline. We had a nice chat on the way to the terminals and he asked me what I thought about that specific episode. Frontline is a great show and highly recommended. Telepathic regards, fRED on 5/2/01 11:28 AM, John Sokolowski at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I caught this re-run of Frontline last night also. Watching the show, it was hard not to think of the Ford marketing campaign with regard to Techno. There were many parallels between what marketing firms do with regard to selling to teens and how Ford is marketing the Focus. It would be interesting to see the results of the focus (no pun intended) groups Ford conducted with people in their late teens and early 20s to determine what is 'cool.' Seemingly, they discovered the techno/electronic music/rave/dance scene. They have a great marketing plan with sponsoring the DEMF and Moby tour. Considering the type of people who attend these types of events along with other 'rave' type events are mostly white, upper-class kids in their late teens and early 20s who can afford a Focus. A Focus is after all, the lowest class of car Ford makes. The best thing Ford can do is make it appealing to those who can afford it. Marketers are the best sociologists. Cheers. From: Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Music Institute 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Interesting Insight Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 00:39:20 -0400 Mildly offtopic, and I apologize in advance http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/cool/ Documentary on the feedback loop between what 's cool and what marketers use to be down with teens. Conclusion is that Detroit's own ICP is ripe for being co-opted. KISS2 anyone? I'm thankful that true Detroit techno escaped by virtue of its happening early enough, and under the radar. What I wonder though: Detroit has a tradition of musical innovation, which might be subject to greater attention in the near future. What other scenes are still virgin and raging? -- There4IM Upcoming Live Electronic Demonstrations: May 25th - Detroit Electronic Music Fest http://www.electronicmusicfest.com/lineup/index.html -- TELEPATHICA - P.O.B.80337 - Boston, MA 02180-0010 FX 978-741-8901 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I always thought this faceless musicians thing was a reaction to consumer society as a whole - as a matter of fact, if you look at Drexciya or Mike Banks, they do their best to propose an escape from today's society, whether it is under the sea or on Mars... and usually, the music played by these faceless musicians is in some way faceless too - they use retro, 80's sounds that are faceless too in the sense that everybody can associate them with tons of things, they never sound new or different straight away - maybe it's even clearer with people like Dopplereffekt or Adult, where the lyrics are always tongue-in-cheek, and many times commentaries aobut our society (I have dispassionate furniture in mind). A lot of stars you can see on TV these days are there just to be seen, to continue to exist in the public's mind just by existing in its eyes ; Daft Punk et al seem to achieve the same goal by _not_ being seen - their absence is more visible than their presence would be. As to other references in different realms : the Residents have been mentioned already ; I seem to remember Autechre only authorize photos if they're distorted ? David Bowie is the exact contrary - up to a recent point, he was so lost behind his public identities he could have been wearing a robot mask ; but this faceless scheme obviously does not fit very well with rock (where the point, after all, is to be a star and have your face on the walls). Another thing comes to mind : some tribes have a legend saying that taking a photo of someone is stealing that person's soul... Gwendal -Original Message- From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:10 PM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: RE: [313] faceless techno b**s I have never seen pictures and/or interviews with Mojo. You can't take pictures anymore from Daft Punk also. The only pictures they make nowadays are from those Robot masks. There is also a record on eevolute dedicated to this: EEVO 013 - Faceless Techno Bastards -- Are a complete hype They played a live set just once in Eindhoven wearing really silly masks. [EMAIL PROTECTED] So recently I was mulling over the way UR and Maurizio/Basic Channel refuse to be photographed and rarely ever give interviews, and how this facelessness projects to music consumers and how it adds to the general air of mystique surrounding the artist. Can anyone point to other bands or musicians who have employed this tactic, whether they be from the realms of techno and/or dance music or any other genres? And does anyone have any points to make on the effect of such a policy? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Plaid
Went to check out Plaid last night here in NYC at Plant. They did a live thing with laptops and then threw down some wax. Some pretty nice chewns, mate. Also, the guys from Prefuse73 were there doing their thing... I believe that was them throwing down the hip-hop records? I don't know? I heard they were going to play along with MFDoom for his record release party, and I thought it was them; but then we left early cause that place with a little squeezed. Whoever they were, they were dropping the dope wax. Mad classics by Kool G. Rap, Nice n' Smooth, De La (Potholes In My Lawn), and even Just-ice. Got ME movin'... respect! Nice to see some brothas up in the piece as well... I don't know about other places, but NYC is whiteboy, yuppie central these days man! It gets annoying... BTW, that Prefuse record that came out on Warp, Estrocaro, is f**kin' awesome! Brilliant hip-hop techno fusion. Alot going in NY this week (finally). On Friday Mike Agent X Clark is DJing at Centro-fly for Kimyon and his crew. Thursday Ricardo Villalobos is DJing for one of Ulyssees' parties (sorry, don't have the info on that in front of me), and Saturday my posse is doing our weekly thing at Pyramid once again. This week we got the Decal Records crew from Dublin (they remixed Two Lone Swordsmen recently), and Ricardo Villalobos waxing the decks. I will forward that info to the list. I hope some of you who are in NY this wk/end will come check it. Peace, J - This message was sent via the Ulsternet webmail system. http://www.ulster.net
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Another thing comes to mind : some tribes have a legend saying that taking a photo of someone is stealing that person's soul... Gwendal And there you might hit upon more than you would think. I believe that the idea of a photo stealing a soul lived among tribes of native Americans as Gwendal pointed out. If you know Mike Banks' background there may very well be a connection there to the refusal of being photographed. John 'Those who stole the soul...' -Original Message- From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:10 PM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: RE: [313] faceless techno b**s I have never seen pictures and/or interviews with Mojo. You can't take pictures anymore from Daft Punk also. The only pictures they make nowadays are from those Robot masks. There is also a record on eevolute dedicated to this: EEVO 013 - Faceless Techno Bastards -- Are a complete hype They played a live set just once in Eindhoven wearing really silly masks. [EMAIL PROTECTED] So recently I was mulling over the way UR and Maurizio/Basic Channel refuse to be photographed and rarely ever give interviews, and how this facelessness projects to music consumers and how it adds to the general air of mystique surrounding the artist. Can anyone point to other bands or musicians who have employed this tactic, whether they be from the realms of techno and/or dance music or any other genres? And does anyone have any points to make on the effect of such a policy? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
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yeah ... can you tell that's a dealer spot and not national advertising? :) someone should digitize that for listmembers abroad. it's quite awful. -d At 11:40 AM -0400 5/2/01, John Bush wrote: They have a great marketing plan with sponsoring the DEMF and Moby tour. Definitely better than those awful Focus commercials shot in front of the State Theater (?), with a scary-makeup'ed, middle-aged pitchwoman interpreting all the cool things that kids are saying about the car... One of the kids says slammin' tunes 24/7, then she turns to the camera and says quality stereo. Makes me retch much more than most car commercials. .john. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I saw the mid-end of this last night. It's been one of the better things I've seen on tv lately. In the end I thought 'electronic music is next for the bastardizing whip'. I now understand why MTV USA has left it alone for the most part and chooses to remain publically ignorant.Because it doesn't appeal to the mook. (The part about buying programming completely fit in with the 'cheapo' reputation MTV has amongst production houses.) From someone who's into the repeat cycles of society, culture and the younger gens etc. I found the show really interesting and thought provoking. I think the most disturbing image was the room full of 11 year olds and early teens taking a break at the 'model search' to pump and grind on one another. I also found it interesting that the ICP crowd thinks sticking up the middle finger is the most interesting way to 'fight the man'. I wondered why these people channel that energy into anger instead of creativity. Why it was their minds went that way instead of others. I'll stop there...like i said...thought provoking. Basically, what it boils down to is...unless we break the cycle-we're our own worst enemy. *Re the part about ford: Ford is trying to label or brand Detroit techno.They want to own this. They want to reach a point where 'techno=cool=fun=Ford' and one owes itself to the other. I owe this eye opener to Miss G. The only way they'll own it is if its allowed. I'm not saying ban the DEMF or Ford's money. But rather, use them as the rich aunt. Sure, throw the money around all you want-but it doesn't mean I'm suddenly going to praise you or acknowledge you in my life liner notes. on a lighter note if you're in Ann Arbor, MI get on down to Stucci's and Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream-it's free ice cream for lunch day.:) tc d sorry so long. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
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isn't that the lady who sings the national anthem at the red wing games? *shrug* luomo rawks. -Original Message- From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 12:22 PM To: John Bush; 313; John Sokolowski Subject: RE: [313] Interesting Insight yeah ... can you tell that's a dealer spot and not national advertising? :) someone should digitize that for listmembers abroad. it's quite awful. -d At 11:40 AM -0400 5/2/01, John Bush wrote: They have a great marketing plan with sponsoring the DEMF and Moby tour. Definitely better than those awful Focus commercials shot in front of the State Theater (?), with a scary-makeup'ed, middle-aged pitchwoman interpreting all the cool things that kids are saying about the car... One of the kids says slammin' tunes 24/7, then she turns to the camera and says quality stereo. Makes me retch much more than most car commercials. .john. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I thought that Dopplereffekt had a photo of themselves on center label of their Sterilization EP. MEK From: Tom Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tom Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] faceless techno b**s Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 12:23:15 +0100 Ever since heard of them, I've thought that Insane Clown Posse is the coolest band name I've ever heard! :-) Of course, when I say 'UR', I mean primarily Mad Mike - Rolando has frequently been photographed in the wake of 'Jaguar', although I'm not sure about Suburban Knight (anyone?), and I think Drexciya take a similar no-photos stance. As do Dopplereffekt, now I come to think about it. - Tom Yeah same goes with ICP. I think the clown-thing helped them out alot. I think it's kind of a cool image that UR portrays. Their website gives that 'badass', 'we don't give a shxt if we're recognized' image to UR artists IMO. I can respect that... TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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What a wicked post... A last a chance for some REAL discussion Basically, what it boils down to is...unless we break the cycle-we're our own worst enemy. *Re the part about ford: Ford is trying to label or brand Detroit techno.They want to own this. They want to reach a point where 'techno=cool=fun=Ford' and one owes itself to the other. I owe this eye opener to Miss G. The only way they'll own it is if its allowed. I'm not saying ban the DEMF or Ford's money. But rather, use them as the rich aunt. Sure, throw the money around all you want-but it doesn't mean I'm suddenly going to praise you or acknowledge you in my life liner notes. Totally, I've mentioned this before ages ago... There're a lot of people involved in this scene at roots level. If there're people at this level then it can never become commercial and it will never be possible to stick it in it's own special rack in HMV or Tower... Detroit techno is just to broad. Example... There is still good underground hip hop about despite the fact that it's all in the charts (stateside and in Europe) and has sprung in and out of fashion a few times over the past 20 years. The reason for this is that it's easy to produce and there're lots of kids at roots level that can just pick up a mike and MC without even considering getting a big record deal... That's when the best music is made... In fact, I spoke to a mate about this the other day. We came to the conclusion that most legendary bands and artists only ever produce one really great album, the first one... Then they start making money and there's no enthusiasm to create good new music anymore... Not true for all bands tho obviously. This links with the recent posts about secertive producers... Lots of producers have released stuff on UR but are never credited and they don't care. That's one of the reasons the label is so good and so true to detroit techno... What do you think? Nick:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
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THE RESIDENTS. WORD! also daft punk, who spent $100,000 for those new robot masks, and we can't forget deep chord. ksg. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 04:34:57PM -, M Elliot-Knight wrote: I thought that Dopplereffekt had a photo of themselves on center label of their Sterilization EP. Also, when they play live they (in the case when i saw them it was just one person actually) don't wear masks nor do they try to hide their appearance in any way. Hans From: Tom Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tom Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] faceless techno b**s Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 12:23:15 +0100 Ever since heard of them, I've thought that Insane Clown Posse is the coolest band name I've ever heard! :-) Of course, when I say 'UR', I mean primarily Mad Mike - Rolando has frequently been photographed in the wake of 'Jaguar', although I'm not sure about Suburban Knight (anyone?), and I think Drexciya take a similar no-photos stance. As do Dopplereffekt, now I come to think about it. - Tom Yeah same goes with ICP. I think the clown-thing helped them out alot. I think it's kind of a cool image that UR portrays. Their website gives that 'badass', 'we don't give a shxt if we're recognized' image to UR artists IMO. I can respect that... TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://technotourist.org http://www.TV-99-AD.com
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And there you might hit upon more than you would think. I believe that the idea of a photo stealing a soul lived among tribes of native Americans as Gwendal pointed out. If you know Mike Banks' background there may very well be a connection there to the refusal of being photographed. Actually I had Africans in mind - and I did not know Mike Banks had Indian blood (that's what you are referring to, right ?) Gwendal
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I just watched that video of the woman from Look-Look online mag hunting down cool teen street culture. Ugh, f*ing parasitic job... I don't think I could do that and sleep at night. I doubt that having tatoos and and multiple piercings is really underground and different. Everyone in that video had them... Yeah, I think that Detroit techno and most other techno will escape more or less intact becasuse it's not the visual circus that mook music is. Other scenes that are still virgin is the reggae music scene. Most people don't know anything past Bob Marley. I just saw Mad Prof. and the venue was not even half full and slowly emptied out... people not understanding the Jamacian soundsystem/DJ/MC thing. MEK From: Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Music Institute 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Interesting Insight Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 00:39:20 -0400 Mildly offtopic, and I apologize in advance http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/cool/ Documentary on the feedback loop between what 's cool and what marketers use to be down with teens. Conclusion is that Detroit's own ICP is ripe for being co-opted. KISS2 anyone? I'm thankful that true Detroit techno escaped by virtue of its happening early enough, and under the radar. What I wonder though: Detroit has a tradition of musical innovation, which might be subject to greater attention in the near future. What other scenes are still virgin and raging? -- There4IM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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Actually, DeepChord will be coming out in the June issue of Vogue. They are doing cross promotion with Karl Lagerfeld to promote his new berlin dub summer line, expect minimal, repetitive patterns, a lot of grays and blacks, and fuzzy, amorphous lines. They will also be promoting the new DC designer jalapeno cheese spread. All dairy products used are produced on the deepchord dairy ranch, and all cows were personally milked by Wurtel, Techniker and IMAX. You bought the records for their rich, deep flavor, and smooth textures, now you can buy their cheese spread for exactly the same reason. DC is also working with T.C electronics to develop a 2 rack-space white noise hiss-ifier. It is going to utilize a physically-modeled dsp algorithm based on the early 30's german telefunken radio receiver and the odd power surges and line hum that come from the outdated electrical grid that powers their studio in a remote dairy farm in the Wisconsin wilderness. Expect a the Hiss-ifier as a VST effects plug-in in the 4th quarter. Deep Chord and TC electronics will have a 2 page spread with trashy broads in bikini's in the November issues of Keyboard and Future-Music. take care, Mike the underground is dead, anonymity is for people who cannot be bothered From: Saul Goode [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] faceless techno b**s Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 12:47:49 -0400 THE RESIDENTS. WORD! also daft punk, who spent $100,000 for those new robot masks, and we can't forget deep chord. ksg. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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...but unfortunately, Juan Atkins has canceled. -Original Message- From: c l c one zero one [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:11 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] UNSEL BROWN Did anyone notice that Unsel is playing the St. Andrews next week or this week. Its in the Metro Times.sponsored by his dance dance .com CLC101 Presents Visual Techno Music http://www.mp3.com/clc101 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices
RE: [313] Linda G
Linda, e-mail me while you are at it!! ben -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:26 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Linda G Importance: High Call me right now 810-871-4178 If anyone knows her, she needs to call me ASAP. Alex Ultradyne Thanks, Alex Lugo == The information in this Internet e-mail is confidential, may be legally privileged and is intended solely for the addressee. If the reader of this communication is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any use, review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete this e-mail and any copy thereof. == - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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At this point I don't see the point of Daft Punk wearing the robot masks... there are countless photos of them sans masks. Plus, if I see one more magazine with those robot masks I'm gunna rip it up. It's gotten tired and old really fast. I first thought they were cool but then it seemed like evry magazine was using the same damn photo. Funny, that's kind of how I think of their new release too. Neat at first but then full of gimmicks and sounds the same after repeated visits. Ooh, that kinda got off topic didn't it. Back to the hidden identity thing... I can appreciate not revealing your personal info (photo included). It allows an artist to branch out into areas that could be considered wrong by your fans if your identity was known. It adds to the mystique of the creator as well... Kraftwerk using dummies made in their likeness. In a live performance it adds a bit of a spectacle element. It also confuses the media machine... MEK From: Saul Goode [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] faceless techno b**s Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 12:47:49 -0400 THE RESIDENTS. WORD! also daft punk, who spent $100,000 for those new robot masks, and we can't forget deep chord. ksg. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Linda G
[Benjamin Cuthbert (Merch) [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Linda, e-mail me while you are at it!! And blow me while you're at it. -- :: atomly :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.atomly.com | http://www.mp3.com/atomly
Re: [313] Interesting Insight
In the end I thought 'electronic music is next for the bastardizing whip'. yes and no. If you remember the chemical brothers/prodigy fiasco, that was mass media's attempt at bankin on electronica. and it was a huge flop. but that could've been because they overcompensated on their we need to water this down so its familiar plans. electronica maybe had just a LITTLE too much rock in it. anyone see the Tire commercial on TV with timo maas's production crew's song dooms night? Maybe mass media has realized that watering down the music isn't the answer to popularity. who knows. I now understand why MTV USA has left it alone for the most part and chooses to remain publically ignorant. back to said chemical prodigy fiasco. Both groups' videos on mtv did HORRIBLE (except for smack my bitch up, which was ironically pulled and was one of my favorite videos of all time). I also found it interesting that the ICP crowd thinks sticking up the middle finger is the most interesting way to 'fight the man'. its their most interesting way to make money off of fighting the man. that's why. Its like Rage against the machine, FUCK SOCIETY, FUCK THE GOVERNMENT, FUCK THE ESTABLISHMENT, but please buy our records and T shirts and 40 dollar concert tickets. Its their business. Another example of the pure genius of the Riaa: they can take anything and turn it into profit, even the hate for themselves. Basically, what it boils down to is...unless we break the cycle-we're our own worst enemy. but let me ask you this: WHY should we break the cycle? This cycle has been a part of the human society machine since the very begining of our existence, except it used to be called Culture and not Mass Media. The Masses Control themselves; the importance of belonging is so important they will supercede their own impulses to do what a group is doing. The way i see it, there's 3 groups in Society (not an original thought, but i think it needs to be reiterated here). Group one are those who follow Mass Media as much as possible. They're the biggest. there's group 2 who goes against mass media's influence, and in turn, are just as much a bunch of followers and such as group one. then there's group 3 who just doesn't give a fuck. They don't listen to said music style Abecause it makes them look smart and they don't ignore music style B because they'll look dumb. They just follow their own impulses (not completely: they still have been influenced by culture somehow) ok, i'll shut up. Shiat, i wrote that as if it was never said before. I owe this eye opener to Miss G. miss G. The only way they'll own it is if its allowed. I'm not saying ban the DEMF or Ford's money. But rather, use them as the rich aunt. Sure, throw the money around all you want-but it doesn't mean I'm suddenly going to praise you or acknowledge you in my life liner notes. well said. There's nothing wrong with corporate sponsorship, there IS something wrong with corporations wanting to control it through their sponsorship. on a lighter note if you're in Ann Arbor, MI get on down to Stucci's and Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream-it's free ice cream for lunch day.:) so not fair. I moved from ypsi/ann arbor a year ago. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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[Jayson B. [EMAIL PROTECTED]] yes and no. If you remember the chemical brothers/prodigy fiasco, that was mass media's attempt at bankin on electronica. and it was a huge flop. If you consider Prodigy a flop, I'm not sure what your standards for success are. They were the top selling band in the US for 1998 (yes, even bigger than the Spice Girls, who were at their prime then). anyone see the Tire commercial on TV with timo maas's production crew's song dooms night? Maybe mass media has realized that watering down the music isn't the answer to popularity. who knows. Well the Timo Maas remix of Doom's Night is absolutely massive in Europe, I'd be surprised if nobody used it. It's just sad that so much good music is used in commercials in the US. Even music that is quite out there. Alec Empire doing a car commercial? Aphex Twin doing a Pirelli ad? -- :: atomly :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.atomly.com | http://www.mp3.com/atomly
Re: [313] Interesting Insight
On Wed, 2 May 2001, atomly wrote: Aphex Twin doing a Pirelli ad? What's weirder is hearing an Aphex Twin song in an anti-drug ad. -- Cafard, [EMAIL PROTECTED] qu'est-ce que tu penses? AIM:pr0j2501 Matt Kane's Brain http://mkb.n3.net ===jive turkey http://jive-turkey.n3.net===
Re: [313] Interesting Insight
[mkb [EMAIL PROTECTED]] What's weirder is hearing an Aphex Twin song in an anti-drug ad. What, are they saying if you do drugs, you'll end up crazy like this guy? -- :: atomly :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.atomly.com | http://www.mp3.com/atomly
Re: [313] Interesting Insight
If you consider Prodigy a flop, I'm not sure what your standards for success are. Its not that *I* consider prodigy a flop, its that the big boys thought they were. even though that album sold a lot, the Record Labels still didn't stick the groups into the 1-album-a-yea-until-people-are-sick-of-you routine that they do with other groups. I guess i attributed that to they thought they made all the money they could on it. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] UNSEL BROWN
Boo hoo, im sad!!! Benjamin Cuthbert (Merch) wrote: ...but unfortunately, Juan Atkins has canceled. -Original Message- From: c l c one zero one [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:11 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] UNSEL BROWN Did anyone notice that Unsel is playing the St. Andrews next week or this week. Its in the Metro Times.sponsored by his dance dance .com CLC101 Presents Visual Techno Music http://www.mp3.com/clc101 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices -- __ | The Equinox| | www.metaphazerecords.com | | Record Release coming this summer | | Special international artist | | to be released on label [Be Prepared] | __ |Sean HodgsonFuel Cell Program C264 | |Hydro-Cooling Designer Ford Motor Company, TH!NK2 | |shodgso2ford.com15000 Commerce Dr. North| |Dearborn, MI 48120, U.S.A. | || | Phones:Desk(313)323.1033, Fax(313) 317-4758 | __
Re: [313] Interesting Insight
[Jayson B. [EMAIL PROTECTED]] even though that album sold a lot, the Record Labels still didn't stick the groups into the 1-album-a-yea-until-people-are-sick-of-you routine that they do with other groups. I guess i attributed that to they thought they made all the money they could on it. Well, another part of the problem was probably that the Prodigy had enough clout from all their #1 singles in the UK that they didn't take shit from the US record companies. I still love the fact that they wanted to release The Fat of The Land as The Land of The Fat in the US. -- :: atomly :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.atomly.com | http://www.mp3.com/atomly
Re: [313] faceless techno b******s
The Tool DVD box set has a video with all of the band members walking around naked with Parental Advisory placards around their privates and it does show their faces. Definitely pick it up if you're into Tool. Peace, Alex Thanks, Alex Lugo - Original Message - To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc:313@hyperreal.org Date: 05/02/2001 07:57:03 AM Subject:Re: [313] faceless techno b**s how about tool? none of their videos that i have seen have any footage of the band, i don't think they do interviews, and when i saw them in concert the lead singer's face was painted. l On Wed, 2 May 2001, Tom Robbins wrote: So recently I was mulling over the way UR and Maurizio/Basic Channel refuse to be photographed and rarely ever give interviews, and how this facelessness projects to music consumers and how it adds to the general air of mystique surrounding the artist. Can anyone point to other bands or musicians who have employed this tactic, whether they be from the realms of techno and/or dance music or any other genres? And does anyone have any points to make on the effect of such a policy? As a starter for ten, did you know that David Soul (in his pre-Starsky Hutch days) used to eke out a living as a singer songwriter called The Masked Man? He would take to the stage in a mask and cloak because he said he wanted people to concentrate on the music, although he admits he soon became better-known for the gimmick rather than his songs. - Tom - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == The information in this Internet e-mail is confidential, may be legally privileged and is intended solely for the addressee. If the reader of this communication is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any use, review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete this e-mail and any copy thereof. ==
DEMF Schedule Updated...
with juan, stacey, kenny, and derrick carter along with a few others i'm not too familiar with. check it out yourself: http://www.electronicmusicfest.com/schedule/index.html Cheers, John (thinking Carter for Vogel is a good trade) _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
RE: [313] faceless techno b******s
Actually I had Africans in mind - and I did not know Mike Banks had Indian blood (that's what you are referring to, right ?) Hence the Native American references on the Red Planet releases, perhaps?
Re: [313] DEMF Schedule Updated...
Another trade: Juan closing the festival instead of May --- John Sokolowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: with juan, stacey, kenny, and derrick carter along with a few others i'm not too familiar with. check it out yourself: http://www.electronicmusicfest.com/schedule/index.html Cheers, John (thinking Carter for Vogel is a good trade) _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
conspiracy theory.......
Please to note that not only is Ford sniffing about to position and brand/align themselves to this culture but they've joined hands with the MIGHTY, mighty SFXa huge entertainment monopoly owning well over 1700 radio stations and close to that number in television/cable interests (dunno the specifics on tellie/cable) and are currently buying up interests in multiple promotion/marketing/labels etc. throughout America and Europe pumpin' our sound. Moreover, they've been soliciting supposed business proposals from a myriad of marketers and purveyors of the funkto get ideas...with no monies being broken off to compensate...just empty promises. This is also happenin' across Amercia currently. Funksters BEWARE!! As the rock beast lies ailing.they've set their sights on us. Moby/et.al's tour which the detroit techno triumvirate so recently sold out (rather cheaply) have played into their hands in what i think is the most unbecoming way. While each and every one of us has to do what we think is right, this move rather rubs me the wrong way by legitimizing The Man's right to our shit. Dunno what will come of this, but from Moby on to Ritual/Amir, Vince Bannon, J. Walter Thompson, Ford Motor Co. and SFX--all stand to garner huge positioning/branding opportunities...thereby diverting monies away from ALL OF US to be the kings of dance music. Moreover, the DEMF is at the center of it all. While Carl Craig/Planet E/Tim Price is slaving away contacting and contracting all the talent--Ritual Productions is the official talent buyer for the DEMF...What? Last year, I received official offers from them and that was it. This year haven't heard an official peeep from 'the official/contracted talent buyer' for the festival and I'm booking 2 headlining acts and one other artist. Ritual has a three year agreement with Ms. Marvin, I believe and I have to ask why. Could it beSatan? Future King and Queen of Detroit Techno? Plegh! Not going to happen using my back as a steppingstone for their clamor to the top of the pile. Good fortune is exactly that. But out and out greed is what I'm sensing / smelling. HEADZ UP! While those of us producing and owning music will do alright...the rest of us will definetly feel this movement I think rather piercingly. Not here to criticize anyone for any decisions they've made...but the family/culture/movement and sound were not, I think, part of the equation when the decision was rendered. Moreover, as the corporatization of dance is occurring WE MUST stick/stand together and not fall apart--else all we've heretofore fought for will be for naught. Other peeps thoughts please? Don't wanna be, but am currently on 'red alert' with regard to my daily bread and butter.. From: Nick Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Interesting Insight Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 17:46:02 +0100 (BST) What a wicked post... A last a chance for some REAL discussion Basically, what it boils down to is...unless we break the cycle-we're our own worst enemy. *Re the part about ford: Ford is trying to label or brand Detroit techno.They want to own this. They want to reach a point where 'techno=cool=fun=Ford' and one owes itself to the other. I owe this eye opener to Miss G. The only way they'll own it is if its allowed. I'm not saying ban the DEMF or Ford's money. But rather, use them as the rich aunt. Sure, throw the money around all you want-but it doesn't mean I'm suddenly going to praise you or acknowledge you in my life liner notes. Totally, I've mentioned this before ages ago... There're a lot of people involved in this scene at roots level. If there're people at this level then it can never become commercial and it will never be possible to stick it in it's own special rack in HMV or Tower... Detroit techno is just to broad. Example... There is still good underground hip hop about despite the fact that it's all in the charts (stateside and in Europe) and has sprung in and out of fashion a few times over the past 20 years. The reason for this is that it's easy to produce and there're lots of kids at roots level that can just pick up a mike and MC without even considering getting a big record deal... That's when the best music is made... In fact, I spoke to a mate about this the other day. We came to the conclusion that most legendary bands and artists only ever produce one really great album, the first one... Then they start making money and there's no enthusiasm to create good new music anymore... Not true for all bands tho obviously. This links with the recent posts about secertive producers... Lots of producers have released stuff on UR but are never credited and they don't care. That's one of the reasons the label is so good and so true to detroit techno... What do you think? Nick:) Do You
RE: [313] Interesting Insight
Aphex Twin doing a Pirelli ad? Does anyone remember that? It was really good. It had Michael Johnson (I think) sprinting across a large flat surface with a thin layer of water on it, with one of the most mental tracks from the early Caustic Windows release slamming to the rhythm of his strides. I heard Richard got paid a vast amount of money for that, and he didn't even write it for the ad.
RE: [313] conspiracy theory.......
*APPLAUSE* absolutely brilliant! f-ing brilliant post! watching laura hit the nail on the head just made my afternoon =). well done!!! ;D -Original Message- From: laura gavoor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 6:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] conspiracy theory... Please to note that not only is Ford sniffing about to position and brand/align themselves to this culture but they've joined hands with the MIGHTY, mighty SFXa huge entertainment monopoly owning well over 1700 radio stations and close to that number in television/cable interests (dunno the specifics on tellie/cable) and are currently buying up interests in multiple promotion/marketing/labels etc. throughout America and Europe pumpin' our sound. Moreover, they've been soliciting supposed business proposals from a myriad of marketers and purveyors of the funkto get ideas...with no monies being broken off to compensate...just empty promises. This is also happenin' across Amercia currently. Funksters BEWARE!! As the rock beast lies ailing.they've set their sights on us. Moby/et.al's tour which the detroit techno triumvirate so recently sold out (rather cheaply) have played into their hands in what i think is the most unbecoming way. While each and every one of us has to do what we think is right, this move rather rubs me the wrong way by legitimizing The Man's right to our shit. Dunno what will come of this, but from Moby on to Ritual/Amir, Vince Bannon, J. Walter Thompson, Ford Motor Co. and SFX--all stand to garner huge positioning/branding opportunities...thereby diverting monies away from ALL OF US to be the kings of dance music. Moreover, the DEMF is at the center of it all. While Carl Craig/Planet E/Tim Price is slaving away contacting and contracting all the talent--Ritual Productions is the official talent buyer for the DEMF...What? Last year, I received official offers from them and that was it. This year haven't heard an official peeep from 'the official/contracted talent buyer' for the festival and I'm booking 2 headlining acts and one other artist. Ritual has a three year agreement with Ms. Marvin, I believe and I have to ask why. Could it beSatan? Future King and Queen of Detroit Techno? Plegh! Not going to happen using my back as a steppingstone for their clamor to the top of the pile. Good fortune is exactly that. But out and out greed is what I'm sensing / smelling. HEADZ UP! While those of us producing and owning music will do alright...the rest of us will definetly feel this movement I think rather piercingly. Not here to criticize anyone for any decisions they've made...but the family/culture/movement and sound were not, I think, part of the equation when the decision was rendered. Moreover, as the corporatization of dance is occurring WE MUST stick/stand together and not fall apart--else all we've heretofore fought for will be for naught. Other peeps thoughts please? Don't wanna be, but am currently on 'red alert' with regard to my daily bread and butter.. From: Nick Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Interesting Insight Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 17:46:02 +0100 (BST) What a wicked post... A last a chance for some REAL discussion Basically, what it boils down to is...unless we break the cycle-we're our own worst enemy. *Re the part about ford: Ford is trying to label or brand Detroit techno.They want to own this. They want to reach a point where 'techno=cool=fun=Ford' and one owes itself to the other. I owe this eye opener to Miss G. The only way they'll own it is if its allowed. I'm not saying ban the DEMF or Ford's money. But rather, use them as the rich aunt. Sure, throw the money around all you want-but it doesn't mean I'm suddenly going to praise you or acknowledge you in my life liner notes. Totally, I've mentioned this before ages ago... There're a lot of people involved in this scene at roots level. If there're people at this level then it can never become commercial and it will never be possible to stick it in it's own special rack in HMV or Tower... Detroit techno is just to broad. Example... There is still good underground hip hop about despite the fact that it's all in the charts (stateside and in Europe) and has sprung in and out of fashion a few times over the past 20 years. The reason for this is that it's easy to produce and there're lots of kids at roots level that can just pick up a mike and MC without even considering getting a big record deal... That's when the best music is made... In fact, I spoke to a mate about this the other day. We came to the conclusion that most legendary bands and artists only ever produce one really great album, the first one... Then they start making money and there's no enthusiasm to create good new music anymore... Not true for all bands tho obviously. This links
