[313] in the d this saturday night
since i won't be attending the trance ibiza night at motor, will there be anything worthwhile going on in the d this weekend on saturday night at porterstreet or elsewhere? -sam http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Lenny Burden on Direct Beat Records
(a fwd from Lenny Burden of 430west/Direct Beat) Hello Mike, Thanks for the forward from the 313. Please forward the following to the list: We have Direct Beat on hiatus at the moment. We kind of felt that we lost direction (no pun intended) with the label, and lost the real purpose why we started the thing in the first place. Back when we started, there were great producers, making some great music, (much of it 'electro'), that no label in the world was paying attention to. It did quite fit on 430 West (we tried it with 4w-190 Aux 88 "Bass Magnetic"), but it needed to be heard. There was no outlet for these people who made the music, and we also got tired of hearing the "Detroit doesn't play techno" line. We think we accomplished our goals in re-exposing this sound, since the whole dance world is now laying claim to it. We kick started some careers along the way, so we have some things to feel good about. Just think, we couldn't give away our first 'electro' record on DB (outside of Detroit), Aux 88 'Technology' is now refered to as a classic. Who would thought it? We have refocused our attention on our music, 'Octave One', and on 430 West as a label. For a while there, we were we were too focused on the 'business' and not the 'music'. We will probably do somethings with DB in the future (never say never), but we have no plans to repress the back catalog or release any new records right now. Thanks to everyone who supported the label. -Lenny Burden _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] OT: Next time anyone needs a cyborg DJ graphic . . .
And assuming you don't want it to look like a Taiwanese Terminator knock-off: http://www.bprince.com/GallyB9.jpg (work in progress) If any heads out there need album/label art, poster illustration, or book covers, drop me a line. Note that I'm not a designer/typesetter. There are designers on this list that put me to shame. But I'm a damn good illustrator, and I'll do 313-related pieces for cheap since I call techno my religious persuasion. I can go from comic to turborealism to impressionism: http://www.bprince.com/BunkerFinalB.jpg http://www.bprince.com/SunTower.jpg And here's something I did for the label of my first EP, due out on Digital Soul in a month or two: http://www.bprince.com/DefianceGirl.gif Check my website for more. Also, someone from the list contacted me about having some of my artwork on the site for his record store . . . I lost the e-mail . . . I think the name of the shop had something to do with frogs. Get in touch with me if that sounds familiar. - Brian "balistic" Prince http://www.bprince.com - art and techno Strokes of Defiance EP . . . soon. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Mad Professor
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 1:13 PM Subject: Re: Re: [313] 2,500 for both at demf > Honestly I'm excited to see Mad Professor, that's a bit of a surprise. Absolutely surprising, but what a great choice it is! I got to see him perform @ SXSW last March, and it was worth every penny of the $90 I paid to get me and two of my friends in. I would probably make the trip to Detroit just to see him if he were playing anywhere for free, let alone the DEMF. When he played in Austin, he DJ'd (or dubbed, I guess) for about an hour then performed with Lee Scratch Perry live. It was really cool to watch him play keyboards and do live dubs at once. Both parts of the show were brilliant. I can't wait! Tristan --- http://www.mp313.com <- Music http://www.metrotechno.net <- DC techno + more http://www.metatrackstudios.com <- DC DJ/Production studios http://phonopsia.tripod.com <- Hub [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- email - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] 2,500 for both at demf
Amen. I've been wondering whether to say this or not, but sometimes I get the feeling that there are a few out there who would like to see the festival fail at Carol Marvin's expense... or see Carol Marvin fail at the festival's expense. I'm not one to play politics. I plan to attend regardless of who's calling the shots, I'd think most people would want to do the same if they want this thing to survive. I know there's a lot of lingering resent regarding Carl Craig's sudden dismissal last year, but regardless of who's running the show, I'd like the see the DEMF continue to grow and see it return in years to come. I realize that there is a right way and a wrong way to accomplish this. I'm not as familiar with as many of the performers as some of you hardcore 313'ers are, but that's not to say I won't enjoy getting introduced to their sounds for the first time as I did last year (and for a couple of artists, the second time). :) That being said, I am disappointed, like many of you, that certain performers have turned down invitation to play this year for whatever reasons... I'm hoping the afterparties will make up for that. Matt E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.magicmattkelly.com - Original Message - From: "Jayson B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [313] 2,500 for both at demf > > same price as it was last year, and *if* i'm correct the same price as it > was the year before. not to mention that's traditionaly what it costs (and > many times more) and other festivals. > > > god, everybody and their brother is lookin for an excuse to bitch about > carol, about the lineup, about how the hotdogs won't be as underground as > the year before, yaddah yaddah yaddah. > > since *I* get bitched at for going off topic, how about we keep the DEMF > bitching to a minimum this year? I'm just glad we have a festival at all > that showcases detroit talent (and much undiscovered talent) to millions of > people instead of booking cheese acts for the main stage. this isn't the > area one tour kids. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] kraftwerk bookies?
did he also design the demf poster? -Original Message- From: Tom Butcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: tom churchill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Super Coffee Beans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org> Date: 16 April 2002 21:16 Subject: Re: [313] kraftwerk bookies? > >Oops, actually it was Wolfgang Flur who wrote I Was a Robot. > >> >> > > just saw at amazon 2 books about kraftwerk one by a a guy called bussy >> > > and the other by a guy called barr. >> > > did any of you got to read this books? r they any good? >> > >> > Tim Barr's book is superb - he's one of the UK's finest >> > electronic music journalists without a doubt and I highly >> > recommend his Kraftwerk book... >> >> Agreed. I've read them both, and I think the Barr test is >> better. You can also find 'I Was a Robot' by Karl Bartos, >> which is nice for the full-color photos. >> >> --- >> Tom Butcher >> >> >> >> > >--- >Tom Butcher > > > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] 2,500 for both at demf
AW no RecordTime tent at DEMF this year??? Damn! Well that's a letdown... now I'm gonna have to make a special trip out to either Ferndale or Rosewood anyone know if the stores be open at all on Memorial Day? Matt E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.magicmattkelly.com - Original Message - From: "Carissa Tintinalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [313] 2,500 for both at demf > This year, it's $2500 for a HALF-size and FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS for a full > size. So in two years the price has doubled. This probably plays a big part > in why a lot of Detroit-based vendors (such as Record Time) will not have a > booth this year. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] 2,500 for both at demf
From: "Jayson B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> feedback please this seems high, its more if you want to play music at your both. go Carol! same price as it was last year, and *if* i'm correct the same price as it was the year before. The first year, a half-size booth was $1250 and a full size was $2000 (approx). I *think* it was $1500 and $3000 last year. This year, it's $2500 for a HALF-size and FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS for a full size. So in two years the price has doubled. This probably plays a big part in why a lot of Detroit-based vendors (such as Record Time) will not have a booth this year. And while yes, we should be going to the festival for the music, I'd prefer to be surrounded by booths from local business who are actually involved in the scene, rather than Pepsi's Chevrolet Go-Cart FunHouse tent. Or something _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] kraftwerk bookies?
Oops, actually it was Wolfgang Flur who wrote I Was a Robot. > > > > just saw at amazon 2 books about kraftwerk one by a a guy called bussy > > > and the other by a guy called barr. > > > did any of you got to read this books? r they any good? > > > > Tim Barr's book is superb - he's one of the UK's finest > > electronic music journalists without a doubt and I highly > > recommend his Kraftwerk book... > > Agreed. I've read them both, and I think the Barr test is > better. You can also find 'I Was a Robot' by Karl Bartos, > which is nice for the full-color photos. > > --- > Tom Butcher > > > > --- Tom Butcher - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] kraftwerk bookies?
> > just saw at amazon 2 books about kraftwerk one by a a guy called bussy > > and the other by a guy called barr. > > did any of you got to read this books? r they any good? > > Tim Barr's book is superb - he's one of the UK's finest > electronic music journalists without a doubt and I highly > recommend his Kraftwerk book... Agreed. I've read them both, and I think the Barr test is better. You can also find 'I Was a Robot' by Karl Bartos, which is nice for the full-color photos. --- Tom Butcher - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven
that would be the 'cycloops'... On Tuesday, April 16, 2002, at 02:49 PM, Grammenos, Peter wrote: Started off with loopy bangy stuff from both but then rich dropped this version of sharivari that I've never heard before and the deepness began! Best set I've seen rich spin in a couple of years, had the crowd going, and if it was his goal to win over nyc he's done so ;) He also worked a track from octave one for about 15 minutes, working it through a sampler of sorts, making loop points on the fly. He spun till about 4 or so them safety scissors played till about 5, one of the most eclectic sets I've ever heard. -Pete - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Hawtin vs. Sven
Started off with loopy bangy stuff from both but then rich dropped this version of sharivari that I've never heard before and the deepness began! Best set I've seen rich spin in a couple of years, had the crowd going, and if it was his goal to win over nyc he's done so ;) He also worked a track from octave one for about 15 minutes, working it through a sampler of sorts, making loop points on the fly. He spun till about 4 or so them safety scissors played till about 5, one of the most eclectic sets I've ever heard. -Pete - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] kraftwerk bookies?
> just saw at amazon 2 books about kraftwerk one by a a guy called bussy > and the other by a guy called barr. > did any of you got to read this books? r they any good? Tim Barr's book is superb - he's one of the UK's finest electronic music journalists without a doubt and I highly recommend his Kraftwerk book... Cheers, Tom | tom churchill | emoticon recordings | http://www.emoticonrecordings.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] kraftwerk bookies?
just saw at amazon 2 books about kraftwerk one by a a guy called bussy and the other by a guy called barr. did any of you got to read this books? r they any good? kind regards and happy YOM HATZMAUT too all of you! Yair. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] test
oh so this is why I couldn't post...this is my little test. no Rich Text either? good thing everything about me is straight up po' Hi 313! Dina - Original Message - From: Jones, George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 1:12 PM Subject: RE: [313] test > It won't accept Rich Text either. > > -Original Message- > From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 1:50 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [313] test > > > you got HTML turned on? 313 won't accept those posts ... pretty sure > no attachments too. > > -d > > At 1:43 PM -0400 4/16/2002, sean deason wrote: > >sorry. my postings have seemed to vanished today > > > > > >- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] test
It won't accept Rich Text either. -Original Message- From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 1:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] test you got HTML turned on? 313 won't accept those posts ... pretty sure no attachments too. -d At 1:43 PM -0400 4/16/2002, sean deason wrote: >sorry. my postings have seemed to vanished today > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] test
you got HTML turned on? 313 won't accept those posts ... pretty sure no attachments too. -d At 1:43 PM -0400 4/16/2002, sean deason wrote: sorry. my postings have seemed to vanished today - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] test
sorry. my postings have seemed to vanished today - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] DEMF line-up
Maybe everyones question shouldn't have been when the line-up will be released but when when the final confirmed line-up will be released which as of yet is still anyones guess. Trevor Wilkes inyerear.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] The Ever Changing Lineup
Is it just me, or weren't Frankie Knuckles and Dave Angel listed on the lineup yesterday? Regardless, the lineup and schedule have been changed up a bit. Cheers, John _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] 2,500 for both at demf
feedback please this seems high, its more if you want to play music at your both. go Carol! I hope they don't have that many of these booth stages this year it made it for such a monbo-jumbo of noise last year. _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Detroit in LA
speaking of Detroit in LA. that reminds me: Kenny and Kelvin Larkin have started a new monthly residency (the first Wednesday of each month) at a club in Santa Monica. The night is called "the music box" and it's at Mix Niteclub 2810 Main Street. I tried to attach a flyer to this post, but it seems it's not allowed on 313. I can forward the flyer to anyone who wants to put it up on a webpage for everyone else to see. sean deason James Hurlbut wrote: > So exciting I had to say it twice. April 27, FAITH will be bringing > Terrence Parker, Mike Huckaby, and Rick Wade to LA Info line at > 323.288.7725. Also Recloose will be in town next Sat. the 20th at "Heading > Home" http://www.headinghome.net/ (Yes, I know Ectomorph is playing the > same night but the theme here is detroit house). No, I'm not involved with > any of these nights, just a devoted fan gettin ready for some raw chuggin > soulful rhodes-full house music from the D. Please tell me if the LA > updates are not wanted on this list. Don't worry, you won't hurt my > feelings. I'll just have to think of some obscure hawtpants hawtin factoids > to post instead :) See ya. > > jamie.hurlbut > ... > . ... > . . > ... > ... ... > ..... ..... > . > ... > ... > www.hurlbotics.com > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: [313] 2,500 for both at demf
'since *I* get bitched at for going off topic, how about we keep the DEMF bitching to a minimum this year? I'm just glad we have a festival at all that showcases detroit talent (and much undiscovered talent) to millions of people instead of booking cheese acts for the main stage. this isn't the area one tour kids.' Couldn't agree more with this post. I for one will be at the festival. I knew that even before the line up was announced. This will be my third year making the trip from NYC and I plan to enjoy the festival and support some Detroit businesses while I'm there. I'm sure as in years past I will meet plenty of cool people and have a great time. I personally can't criticize the line up because the festival is FREE. Considering what you sometimes pay for stuff here in the city, free is a rare thing. Honestly I'm excited to see Mad Professor, that's a bit of a surprise. I'm sure there will be plenty of great afterparties as well. It's funny how I hear a lot mentioned about the spirit of that first festival. I can attribute it to the fact that I had no idea what to expect(as no one else did), which made it really exciting. I didn't even know the line up till I got there. I can even count last years hail storm as probably the most memorable moment (and proof Carol is not god). It is impossible to please everyone and had they scheduled every one of my favorite artists, I think I would get bored. As I did last year, I'll break out the highlighter and pick out the folks in the shcedule playing I'm not familar or don't hear often. That way I won't have any expectations. -dave (making my last DEMF post) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] 2,500 for both at demf
feedback please this seems high, its more if you want to play music at your both. go Carol! same price as it was last year, and *if* i'm correct the same price as it was the year before. not to mention that's traditionaly what it costs (and many times more) and other festivals. god, everybody and their brother is lookin for an excuse to bitch about carol, about the lineup, about how the hotdogs won't be as underground as the year before, yaddah yaddah yaddah. since *I* get bitched at for going off topic, how about we keep the DEMF bitching to a minimum this year? I'm just glad we have a festival at all that showcases detroit talent (and much undiscovered talent) to millions of people instead of booking cheese acts for the main stage. this isn't the area one tour kids. _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] 2,500 for booth at demf
> feedback please this seems high, its more if you want > to play music at your both. go Carol! > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > It's about 1000 Euros (aprox 800 Dollars) for a booth at this year's Sonar in Barcelona if that's any comparison? Cheers Jason Brunton Iridite - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] 2,500 for both at demf
feedback please this seems high, its more if you want to play music at your both. go Carol! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] scenes vs The Scene
Well, my phrase is slightly out of context there. I wasn't saying I wanted this to only be for those who already knew what was up. Rather, my point is, I'd much rather see locals, people from the community, checking out the music and learning about something they never existed. A diverse crowd--something that a crowd made of mostly ravers is not. It seems to me that if the event leans towards the rave thing it will drive people away who are turned off by that atmosphere or aura. How many people in the community are going to look at this year's poster and want to go? Honestly I don't care how many ravers go I just would like for that to be simply one demagraphic and not the predominating one. I also feel that they ought to have some of the deeper/jazzier R+B and some high quality hiphop (I think the hiphop in the last 2 years went over well personally), as these will draw out more local people without compromising the vision and quality. ...dave Original Message Follows From: Tim Maughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: JL Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [313] scenes vs The Scene Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 11:26:19 +0100 on 16/4/02 11:25 am, JL Jones at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In general, I thought that there was a preponderence of ravers at the last > festival who didn't necessarily know what they had even come to see. is that really a bad thing? if one of them went away with a new appreciation of techno, isn't it worth it? i now techno gets accused of elitiism, but do we really want to exclude people? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Classic E.P.
I have been trying to hunt down a copy of the "Classic E.P" It is an early Stacey pullen release on Serious Grooves (Detroit house label -- Terence Parker, Seven Grand Housing Authority, etc.) I am willing to trade or purchase.. Thank You, Malcolm http://www.big12inch.com Dance Music and Electronica Hard to find records and CDs - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Shake @ Mixworks//Thursday, April 18
any chance for some online mixes from mr.shakir??? y - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] scenes vs The Scene
To everyone considering going to this years DEMF - ignore my previous posts. Unless the whole thing gets canceled (which would suck) GO! You will have a good time and DO NOT miss the afterhours parties. HAVE A GOOD TIME. I did even with the Carl vs. Carol controversy. The committee has put together, to the best of their ability, a great line-up (even with the drop-outs, which happened last year too). Go go go go to Detroit. And please let me know how John Tejada was...wait, on second thought don't. MEK JL Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org omcast.net> cc: Subject: Re: [313] scenes vs The Scene 04/16/02 05:25 AM So, I guess I shouldn't bother considering going to this one, not being able to make it to the first two... Seems like this attitude kinda puts a damper on people exploring their curiosity with regards to the acts at this event as well... It's almost like you're saying: "If you have no clue about who's performing, you shouldn't go"- even if you do have an interest in the music thanks Jim J. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 11:56 PM Subject: [313] scenes vs The Scene that's pretty easy (imo) ..last year people raved about how great it was and so it attracted a large element of scenesters..now every idiot from missouri is showing up In general, I thought that there was a preponderence of ravers at the last festival who didn't necessarily know what they had even come to see. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] 3 chairs
Is this tour going to happen in the US or has it already? MEK <[EMAIL PROTECTED] global.com> To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 04/16/02 04:50 AMSubject: [313] 3 chairs - Sheffield Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers Start of message text Anyone on the list from Sheffield UK? If so, Manchester is about to invade - May 11th. Everyone I have spoken to is going to the 3 chairs do. There's going to be absoloute mayhem on the train there and back, I know at least 20 people who are going! Has anyone seen the Sheffield gig advertised, do they know the start/finish times? Anyone on list from Manchester/Liverpool welcome to travel with us. Probabilities of getting arrested are probably quite high though...! Can't wait! - End of message text This e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, please notify the author by replying to this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. The principal place of business of PricewaterhouseCoopers and its associate partnerships is 1 Embankment Place, London WC2N 6RH where lists of the partners' names are available for inspection. All partners in the associate partnerships are authorised to conduct business as agents of, and all contracts for services to clients are with, PricewaterhouseCoopers. The UK firm of PricewaterhouseCoopers is authorised by the Institute of Chartered Accountants in England and Wales to carry on investment business. PricewaterhouseCoopers is a member of the world-wide PricewaterhouseCoopers organisation. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. Visit our website http://www.pwcglobal.com The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] slightly off topic: online rights.
The recent discussion of the proposed defamation of josh wink on mailing lists etc, and recent calls from lawyers, makes this post not 100% off topic, I guess. Someone sent me a link to the site below, and from what has been happening to listmembers recently, it might be a good place to start to get more information. The clearinghouse is run by the Electronic Frontier Foundation and 4 law school clinics, so it is a good place to start. From site: "Do you know your online rights? Have you received a letter asking you to remove information from a Web site or to stop engaging in an activity? Are you concerned about liability for information that someone else posted to your online forum?" http://www.chillingeffects.org/ And a few other good places: http://www.eff.org/br/ http://www.epic.org/ http://www.aclu.org/issues/cyber/hmcl.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Shake @ Mixworks//Thursday, April 18
Mixworks presents: Thursday, April 18 Anthony 'Shake' Shakir -- Frictional Records israel vines -- vmax records w/resident Buzz Goree Mixworks, Thursdays @ Porter St. 1400 Porter, at Trumbull info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, make sure to check out Shake tonight on WDET 101.9 with Liz Copeland sometime after midnight! _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] 313 records for sale ebay
Letting go of more stuff this time UR, Red Planet, M-plant, AXIS, Larry Heard LP, 777, and an old Basement Jaxx among the lot. http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=toedawg&include=0&since=-1&sort=2&rows=25 minto __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] scenes vs The Scene
oh jesus...before more people get their joe boxers bunched up in a wad (or hanes her way for that matter) the subject at hand was _balance_ -k mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Motor Lounge not sponsoring a DEMF stage
At this point, going to a Detroit Techno and Fish Fry Festival by Ubersubterran-what's-his-name sounds good too. -Original Message- From: :P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 8:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fred Heutte Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Motor Lounge not sponsoring a DEMF stage will you charge 5 bux per little ass cup of beer? because if not, Im not going :P -Joe www.emmrecords.com/teh_fux - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Fred Heutte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [313] Motor Lounge not sponsoring a DEMF stage So, like my friend is having this bar-b-que on Memorial day weekend - we have a couple of turntables and some good eats. Everyone is invited as it seems nothing else is going to be happening that weekend. ;) MEK Fred Heutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: <313@hyperreal.org> ta.com> cc: Subject: [313] Motor Lounge not sponsoring a DEMF stage 04/15/02 05:29 PM And now for the next shoe dropping: From: "motordetroit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Motor-Detroit NOT sponsoring DEMF stage Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 17:03:20 -0400 Motor-Detroit Will NOT be Sponsoring a Stage at DEMF 2002 Despite reports to the contrary, Motor-Detroit will not be sponsoring a stage at DEMF 2002. "We decided this year that is wasn't in our best interest to be involved." says Motor owner Dan Sordyl. He explains that Pop Culture Media listed Motor as a sponsor this year do to a miscommunication. "We are incredibly proud to have worked with the DEMF in the past, especially the first year," continues Sordyl, "But do to a variety of circumstances, this year we are out." Motor will be open for DEMF afterpartys, including the now traditional Sunday session with Motor resident, John Acquaviva. "John looks forward to it every year, as do we." Say Sordyl. The line-up for Friday and Saturday nights will be announced in the coming weeks. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Drexciya and the DEMF
- Original Message - From: "Hans Veneman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "John Osselaer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 2:24 AM Subject: Re: [313] Drexciya and the DEMF > > And if I recall well all the pictures on the site are from the -by now > more > > than legendary - first edition of the DEMF. Why is that? Forgot to pay > last > > year's photographer??? > > For both editions the official photographer was Joe Vaughn. Last year he > probably made tons of pictures because he was constantly all over the place. > Never saw any of them though, unfortunatly. He also made a reportage of > people with the pink "I support Carl Craig" sticker. Yeah. This was supposed to be published in a magazine somewhere. Perhaps, I'm jaded by all of this, but could that be the reason the pics were never published? I'd love to see that pic he took of me and two technotourists - sporting our Detroit pink. :) Tristan --- http://www.mp313.com <- Music http://www.metrotechno.net <- DC techno + more http://www.metatrackstudios.com <- DC DJ/Production studios http://phonopsia.tripod.com <- Hub [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- email - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] scenes vs The Scene
- Original Message - From: "JL Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [313] scenes vs The Scene > So, I guess I shouldn't bother considering going to this > one, not being able to make it to the first two... Hey there Mr. Jones, In my mind, anyone who's never been should still go. I think if you don't know what you missed the first year, these following years won't have the tinge of longing. Plus you'll get to put faces with names for fellow 313ers who would like to meet you in person. :) > Seems like this attitude kinda puts a damper on people > exploring their curiosity with regards to the acts at this > event as well... It's almost like you're saying: > "If you have no clue about who's performing, you shouldn't go"- > even if you do have an interest in the music I don't feel that way, but I was quite dissapointed by the different vibe the second year. It was impossible not to be, and I think this is what Cyborg K was originally asking about. The first year was unbelievably exciting - nearly a religious experience for some. No one there knew if it would go off. In the days leading up to the event, there was nearly as much controversy as this year and last year. No one could anticipate how many people would actually show up, or what kind of feeling the festival would have. When I finally arrived, after months of discussing it, it surpassed everyone's expectations. The crowd was so unbelievably diverse. It was like a cross-section of Detroit and its surrounding areas, comingling with travellers from all over the world, together as one, curious or die-hard. In fact, it's the curiosity that felt missing from the second one in a lot of ways. So much of the crowd was Detroit locals, some older families, some people who had seen Derrick may at the MI but couldn't believe he was still DJing, and that something like this could ever happen in Detroit. You only need to review the groovetech footage from the first day of the festival at the CPOP stage, from Minx into Theo Parrish to see what happened. The first festival was diverse in every respect, from ethnicity to age. Children and grandparents all dancing to Theo Parrish's "I Can Take It", etc. After about 1/2 an hour of Theo's magic the place was transformed and that feeling never went away. The second year I arrived with fears of corporate pollution and anger about Carl Craig's dismissal, but I tried to make the best and enjoy myself at what was a phenomenal line-up. However, it never felt the same and it took some severe expectation-adjustment to acclimate to what the festival had changed into. There were phenomenal moments when you could remember what it was like the year before, but there wasn't the pure joy the first festival set free. There were also logistical differences. Some of the stages were simply too crowded to get into, and getting between stages was extrememly hard. There were a lot more people. What did it for me and many others the second year was the after parties. Here, you could reconnect with the underground - you could experience the same feeling that was missing the first year. The Sound Signature party last year was as good as any moment from the first, and there were literally four other parties I would have ran, not walked to. Anyone there will likely tell you this. I would travel to Detroit this year just to attend that party, not even knowing details on other parties to come - but there will surely be too many to chose from. Go for the parties, don't expect a miracle from the crowd at the festival like the first year, and perhaps be happilly surprised by the whole thing. Anyone curious can read my full review of the 2nd year here: http://phonopsia.tripod.com/globetrot.htm Tristan --- http://www.mp313.com <- Music http://www.metrotechno.net <- DC techno + more http://www.metatrackstudios.com <- DC DJ/Production studios http://phonopsia.tripod.com <- Hub [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- email - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] advent / demf
30mins of Advent? not enuff I say.. :) 2 hours thats what it should be.. -Original Message- From: Lorie R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 April 2002 13:01 To: 313@hyperreal.org; marsel Subject: Re: [313] advent / demf I highly doubt Advent is playing for 4hrs live. I bet there is a TBA somewhere in there. 30minutes of advent too much? nah - Original Message - From: "marsel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > four hours of the Advent?! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] advent / demf
I highly doubt Advent is playing for 4hrs live. I bet there is a TBA somewhere in there. 30minutes of advent too much? nah - Original Message - From: "marsel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > four hours of the Advent?! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] DEMF/US Visa requirements
It's a shame there's so much bad feeling about the DEMF this year becuase I've been wanting to attend the last few and this year I've actually got it together.. Looking at the line-up there's a few names missing, notably the Planet E peeps and that's a big let down.. But, my girlfriend wants to go, I've got a place to stay 15 mins walk from Hart Plaza with an old buddy and there are plenty of names on that line-up I have never had the chance to hear.. so, we're going.. :) Can anyone with knowlage of US visa requirements please mail me off list with any helpful info/advice. I don't want to get stuck at the airport! 1 aussie passport holder, 1 english, no arrests (yet) For UK-313'ers remember Saturday May 18th (the weekend before the DEMF) is our meet-up in London.. would be a good time to arrange to meet at the DEMF for anyone else going over.. cheers, Nic -- -- Visit our Internet site at http://www.reuters.com Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Reuters Ltd. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Drexciya and the DEMF
marsel wrote: > who's james? hetfield, of drexciyallica fame. glyn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] advent / demf
just checking the DEMF site, but good god!! four hours of the Advent?! 30 minutes should already be too much already.. it's already too repetive after five minutes i do hope The Aux Men featuring A Number of Names(live) get at least that time as well.. :) the sunday demf stage seems smooth as well with old these old sexy cowboys... 12:00 Gary Martin 3:00 Blake Baxter 5:30 Eddie Fowlkes 8:30 George Clinton ... .. . :: http://nomorewords.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] scenes vs The Scene
on 16/4/02 11:25 am, JL Jones at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In general, I thought that there was a preponderence of ravers at the last > festival who didn't necessarily know what they had even come to see. is that really a bad thing? if one of them went away with a new appreciation of techno, isn't it worth it? i now techno gets accused of elitiism, but do we really want to exclude people? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] scenes vs The Scene
So, I guess I shouldn't bother considering going to this one, not being able to make it to the first two... Seems like this attitude kinda puts a damper on people exploring their curiosity with regards to the acts at this event as well... It's almost like you're saying: "If you have no clue about who's performing, you shouldn't go"- even if you do have an interest in the music thanks Jim J. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 11:56 PM Subject: [313] scenes vs The Scene that's pretty easy (imo) ..last year people raved about how great it was and so it attracted a large element of scenesters..now every idiot from missouri is showing up In general, I thought that there was a preponderence of ravers at the last festival who didn't necessarily know what they had even come to see. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Robert Owens on Radio 1 (UK)
evening peeps! for anyone who's interested: Thursday 25/04/02 12pm One World With David Holmes and Robert Owens Radio 1, UK, think you can listen to it live on the net if you can't pick it up on the radio (although not 100% sure) best check out the web-site: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/or http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/one_world/index.shtml plus coming up on the one world show: also coming up :: Kompakt records showcase, Mille Plateaux label showcase, SONAR Festival in Barcelona, Kitty Yo label showcases, and more.. jason - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] 3 chairs - Sheffield
Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers Start of message text Anyone on the list from Sheffield UK? If so, Manchester is about to invade - May 11th. Everyone I have spoken to is going to the 3 chairs do. There's going to be absoloute mayhem on the train there and back, I know at least 20 people who are going! Has anyone seen the Sheffield gig advertised, do they know the start/finish times? Anyone on list from Manchester/Liverpool welcome to travel with us. Probabilities of getting arrested are probably quite high though...! Can't wait! - End of message text This e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, please notify the author by replying to this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. The principal place of business of PricewaterhouseCoopers and its associate partnerships is 1 Embankment Place, London WC2N 6RH where lists of the partners' names are available for inspection. All partners in the associate partnerships are authorised to conduct business as agents of, and all contracts for services to clients are with, PricewaterhouseCoopers. The UK firm of PricewaterhouseCoopers is authorised by the Institute of Chartered Accountants in England and Wales to carry on investment business. PricewaterhouseCoopers is a member of the world-wide PricewaterhouseCoopers organisation. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. Visit our website http://www.pwcglobal.com The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] detroit in london
> www.the-end.co.uk > > Josh Wink - now he's a topical person - plays on 11 May with a certain > Fabrice Lig Go and see Fabrice (and abuse Josh Wink if you so feel). I had the good fortune to DJ with him at a party Red D threw last month and it was a great set choc full of Detroit classics: started with "Nowhere To Run", played "Game One", "Jupiter Jazz" etc. Wicked! I'm not so sure he'll be throwing down all the classics this time, but get out and support. (While I'm out of the country missing this, 3 Chairs, Cecil Taylor... ) Jonny - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] detroit in london
Jeff Mills is also at Sankeys Soap - a great club - in Manchester on 24 May - Original Message - From: "Nicole Slavin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Michael D Tyrer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Langsman, Marc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 07:30 Subject: Re: [313] detroit in london > sounds great, lucky for those who can travel freely through europe whenever > they feel like it. i'm not so lucky. > did someone say jeff mills was playing at fabric on 1 June? great, i'm out > the country again :( > it's not a great venue, but i guess if it's that or nothing. > -Original Message- > From: Michael D Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Langsman, Marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 313@hyperreal.org > <313@hyperreal.org> > Date: 15 April 2002 23:12 > Subject: Re: [313] detroit in london > > > >Yeah - Fabric might have a great sound system - but they can never forget > it > >was an old meat factory so the policy is pack em in like sardines. (and at > >£15 a head its obviously a fairly sound policy). > > > >As an aside i went to Belgium to see Claude at Fuse Club on Saturday night. > >(There's a great deal on Eurostar for a party ticket for £35. Go after 4pm > >come back on a train before 10.30am). Anyhow 2 points: Entrance to Fuse > >Club - and you couldnt get a more hyped club surely : 10 Euros - thats > about > >6 quid. So how the hell or Fabric and every other UK club charging such > >ridiculous prices. > > > >I went on a late train and got into the club just on midnight. Fairly > >reasonable hour imo to get there. Claude came on at 1:00. His set was > >good. Loads of the belgium kids were really impressed with his dexterity > >(there's a bid screen showing a camera directly over the decks and mixer). > >I've heard better from him. but I noticed he was gone straight after his > >set. Now the only other place I've heard Claude play was in London (quite > a > >lot) when he used to live here in Hackney. He always used to hang around > in > >the club after his set. Maybe he was there and I didnt see him. The last > >time we went to Fuse the same thing happened - this was to see Charles > >Siegling (brilliant) but he too played at 1;00. It seems to go really flat > >after that from 3;00 am and then they start to build it up again. I found > >that at 4:00am i felt like going home (problem was my return train wasnt > >till 9:00) I know the guest DJ is broadcast on a belgium radio station from > >the fuse at 1;00 so that explains the timing but wouldnt it be better if > >they could play them a bit later in the night. > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Langsman, Marc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "'Nicole Slavin'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> > >Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 12:54 > >Subject: RE: [313] detroit in london > > > > > >> I went to see suburban knight + claude young at Fabric > >> > >> Calude Young was excellent, but I hated the venue - poor sound, > >overcrowded > >> , filled with far too much smoke so you cant see more than a few people > in > >> front of you at the best ot times, bad atmosphere - basically *very* > >> oppressive . Didnt hang around for suburban night as he wasnt scheduled > to > >> play until 4am > >> > >> *bumdeal* > >> > >> Marc > >> > >> > >> > >> >-Original Message- > >> >From: Nicole Slavin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 7:43 PM > >> >To: 313@hyperreal.org > >> >Subject: [313] detroit in london > >> > > >> > > >> >i've just got back from a few weeks out the country. while i was gone > >> >suburban knight, claude young, derrick may, juan atkins and kevin > >> >saunderson ALL came to town :( > >> >curious to know how these nights were as i haven't been to a > >> >good night out > >> >in londn in ages, including lost; and of course i'd like to > >> >eat myself with > >> >envy. > >> >N > >> >- sorry if you got this thrice, having some trouble. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >- > >> >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> - > - > > > >> This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of > the > >designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient > >of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, > >distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This > >communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded > as > >an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial > >product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official > >statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to > be > >secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information > >is complete
Re: [313] Drexciya and the DEMF
> And if I recall well all the pictures on the site are from the -by now more > than legendary - first edition of the DEMF. Why is that? Forgot to pay last > year's photographer??? For both editions the official photographer was Joe Vaughn. Last year he probably made tons of pictures because he was constantly all over the place. Never saw any of them though, unfortunatly. He also made a reportage of people with the pink "I support Carl Craig" sticker. Hans -- Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://technotourist.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] detroit in london
sounds great, lucky for those who can travel freely through europe whenever they feel like it. i'm not so lucky. did someone say jeff mills was playing at fabric on 1 June? great, i'm out the country again :( it's not a great venue, but i guess if it's that or nothing. -Original Message- From: Michael D Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Langsman, Marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org> Date: 15 April 2002 23:12 Subject: Re: [313] detroit in london >Yeah - Fabric might have a great sound system - but they can never forget it >was an old meat factory so the policy is pack em in like sardines. (and at >£15 a head its obviously a fairly sound policy). > >As an aside i went to Belgium to see Claude at Fuse Club on Saturday night. >(There's a great deal on Eurostar for a party ticket for £35. Go after 4pm >come back on a train before 10.30am). Anyhow 2 points: Entrance to Fuse >Club - and you couldnt get a more hyped club surely : 10 Euros - thats about >6 quid. So how the hell or Fabric and every other UK club charging such >ridiculous prices. > >I went on a late train and got into the club just on midnight. Fairly >reasonable hour imo to get there. Claude came on at 1:00. His set was >good. Loads of the belgium kids were really impressed with his dexterity >(there's a bid screen showing a camera directly over the decks and mixer). >I've heard better from him. but I noticed he was gone straight after his >set. Now the only other place I've heard Claude play was in London (quite a >lot) when he used to live here in Hackney. He always used to hang around in >the club after his set. Maybe he was there and I didnt see him. The last >time we went to Fuse the same thing happened - this was to see Charles >Siegling (brilliant) but he too played at 1;00. It seems to go really flat >after that from 3;00 am and then they start to build it up again. I found >that at 4:00am i felt like going home (problem was my return train wasnt >till 9:00) I know the guest DJ is broadcast on a belgium radio station from >the fuse at 1;00 so that explains the timing but wouldnt it be better if >they could play them a bit later in the night. > >- Original Message - >From: "Langsman, Marc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'Nicole Slavin'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> >Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 12:54 >Subject: RE: [313] detroit in london > > >> I went to see suburban knight + claude young at Fabric >> >> Calude Young was excellent, but I hated the venue - poor sound, >overcrowded >> , filled with far too much smoke so you cant see more than a few people in >> front of you at the best ot times, bad atmosphere - basically *very* >> oppressive . Didnt hang around for suburban night as he wasnt scheduled to >> play until 4am >> >> *bumdeal* >> >> Marc >> >> >> >> >-Original Message- >> >From: Nicole Slavin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 7:43 PM >> >To: 313@hyperreal.org >> >Subject: [313] detroit in london >> > >> > >> >i've just got back from a few weeks out the country. while i was gone >> >suburban knight, claude young, derrick may, juan atkins and kevin >> >saunderson ALL came to town :( >> >curious to know how these nights were as i haven't been to a >> >good night out >> >in londn in ages, including lost; and of course i'd like to >> >eat myself with >> >envy. >> >N >> >- sorry if you got this thrice, having some trouble. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >- >> >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > >> >> >> - - > >> This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the >designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient >of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, >distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This >communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as >an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial >product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official >statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be >secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information >is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All >information is subject to change without notice. >> >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To un
Re: [313] Drexciya and the DEMF
And if I recall well all the pictures on the site are from the -by now more than legendary - first edition of the DEMF. Why is that? Forgot to pay last year's photographer??? And damn right about the total lack of respect for some of the true people in Detroit. John From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Drexciya and the DEMF Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 23:19:20 +0200 Hey man its a shame because If PCM continue to disrespect guys like these and lose all support of the Detroit techno community, then the rest of the world is soon gonna follow. People have way too much respect for guys like UR and Derrick to continue supporting an event that continues to flex its commercial muscle over the scene and music they have built. When you think it was partly the vision of guys like Derrick and Carl that gave birth to the DEMF to begin with, only to then publicly diss Carl and now show an utter lack of respect to the professionalism of many other Detroit artists, right down to the tiniest detail of having Derrick on the website homepage after he had voiced his distance from the whole project. Maybe I've got it all wrong, hey what do I really know. What I would like to know though is were the selection comittee aware that PCM planned to list thier selection without having first booked or even contacted the artists involved? Stewart - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [313] Drexciya and the DEMF > > What I find unbelievable is that this is a Detroit based promoter who is > f*cking around with one of the toughest artist collectives (UR & Drexciya) > in the city and have a reputation for calling it like it is. Clearly shows > that PCM is way out of touch with the techno community in their own > city! Laughing (in a sort of sad way) at how absolutely terribly bad they > f*cked that up. > > MEK > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Drexciya and the DEMF
smartass rob theakston said "james= one half of drexciya along with noted actress Bea Arthur." the chick from the Golden Girls on R & S oh the confusion... jeff > james= one half of drexciya along with noted actress Bea Arthur. > > -Original Message- > From: marsel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 4:31 PM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [313] Drexciya and the DEMF > > > > who's james? > > ;) > > ( just a next one in the series of 'who is.. ?' ) > > > > > At 15-4-2002 -0400 16:27, you wrote: > >maybe they knew who this "Drexciyan DJ" was and contacted him (her? it?) > >directly instead of through James? > > > >I think they know better than to play with fire ... er, water. > > > >-d > > > >At 10:25 PM +0200 4/15/2002, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>I'm sure most of you have pretty much figured it out anyway, but just to > >>confirm it. James from Drexciya has told me they will not be doing the > >>DEMF and will infact be in Atlanta that weekend. It seems they did > indeed > >>have no knowledge of the listing nor will they ever perform at the > festival. > >> > >>Just what the hell was the deal with that phoney line up??? Fu%@&ed up > >>aint even the word for that. > > > .. . :: http://nomorewords.net > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] scenes vs The Scene
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Actually you touched on something that disturbed me greatly, the difference in crowds between Demf 1 & 2. It was the sight of such a diverse crowd after the first Demf, all enjoying themselves and digging on the music, that made it really seem like a landmark to me. That diversity seemed to be lost at the second Demf, and I'm curious as to why this was the case? Anyone have any thoughts on this? i only wish i could have attended the first; i'm from seattle and didn't find out until it was financially impossible. but to me the second was very diverse; there was a lot of 'rave', but also a lot of grandma and kid and i-live-here-and-what-is-this-thing-going-on and "i flew out from denmark"... i don't know what the local view on demf is at this point and that's part of the reason i subbed to 313 again after a long absence.. i am wondering, though, if local resentment about the way the politics went down contributed in some way to a less diverse second festival? In general, I thought that there was a preponderence of ravers at the last festival who didn't necessarily know what they had even come to see. it's possible, but almost everyone i talked to last year was not from detroit. i met people from japan, england, amsterdam, california, florida, new york, toronto, etc.. barely anyone i had a conversation with was local and the local people i did talk to weren't ravers and had come just because they were curious about the "crazy party".. i am annoyed by confused ravers when they show up just to get high and lay all over each other, but i didn't see any of that at the demf. it might have gone on in the hotel rooms, but at the festival itself, everyone seemed really into it. as far as i am concerned, people who have no clue what the music is but love it and are freaking out about how good it is are just fine by me. ;) best way to learn is to fall in love... kim "mere language is profanity. i'd rather hum or have my soul tattooed on my tongue." - saul williams http://www.nwtekno.org & http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/nw & http://www.pulpfiction.com/rave/groovinkim . - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] scenes vs The Scene
Original Message: - From: Cyborg K [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:27:54 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Is Electronic Music dying? (was: Re: The committee vs. Carl Craig) Actually you touched on something that disturbed me greatly, the difference in crowds between Demf 1 & 2. It was the sight of such a diverse crowd after the first Demf, all enjoying themselves and digging on the music, that made it really seem like a landmark to me. That diversity seemed to be lost at the second Demf, and I'm curious as to why this was the case? Anyone have any thoughts on this? that's pretty easy (imo) ..last year people raved about how great it was and so it attracted a large element of scenesters..now every idiot from missouri is showing up In general, I thought that there was a preponderence of ravers at the last festival who didn't necessarily know what they had even come to see. yes..the first year we had people coming up to us telling us it was great to see people in UR gear, the second it was asking who they were The worst thing that could happen is that curious locals won't attend because they percieve it to simply be some kind of "rave" thing. On the other hand, thank God for the afterparties which more and more look like they will become the real focus. I will be very sad if I know longer see some of the great artists out with their kids in strollers... I don't think that we should lose site of the fact that the detroit artists spent decades being undervalued and now their name is being institutionalized in this city, and are you really that suprised that it is being co-opted? -k re: the post about certain types of music attracting teenagers it's called teenage angst, pick up a sisters of mercy cd sometime ;) mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] demf poster
Hehe. I think they should add: " 'Get your Rave on' - Carol Marvin" Kevin - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 9:18 PM Subject: [313] demf poster > this is pretty funny > > > www.detroitluv.com/YaBB.pl?board=Science > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] demf poster
this is pretty funny www.detroitluv.com/YaBB.pl?board=Science - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] live set from fred giannelli april 15 11 EST http://www.wzbc.org
probably 1 hour. thats typical for PAs and typical for the kooky sets ive seen - Original Message - From: "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [313] live set from fred giannelli april 15 11 EST http://www.wzbc.org > Do you know how long his set will be? > > Kevin > http://www.mp313.com > > > - Original Message - > From: "Kent williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313 list" <313@hyperreal.org>; > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "i'd do mary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 7:46 PM > Subject: [313] live set from fred giannelli april 15 11 EST > http://www.wzbc.org > > > > Fred Giannelli will be doing a live performance on the radio: > > > > WZBC radio, Boston > > http://www.wzbc.org 11 PM EST > > > > His performance in Iowa City was amazing. This should be even better. > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] live set from fred giannelli april 15 11 EST http://www.wzbc.org
Do you know how long his set will be? Kevin http://www.mp313.com - Original Message - From: "Kent williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313 list" <313@hyperreal.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "i'd do mary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 7:46 PM Subject: [313] live set from fred giannelli april 15 11 EST http://www.wzbc.org > Fred Giannelli will be doing a live performance on the radio: > > WZBC radio, Boston > http://www.wzbc.org 11 PM EST > > His performance in Iowa City was amazing. This should be even better. > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Motor Lounge not sponsoring a DEMF stage
will you charge 5 bux per little ass cup of beer? because if not, Im not going :P -Joe www.emmrecords.com/teh_fux - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Fred Heutte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [313] Motor Lounge not sponsoring a DEMF stage So, like my friend is having this bar-b-que on Memorial day weekend - we have a couple of turntables and some good eats. Everyone is invited as it seems nothing else is going to be happening that weekend. ;) MEK Fred Heutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: <313@hyperreal.org> ta.com> cc: Subject: [313] Motor Lounge not sponsoring a DEMF stage 04/15/02 05:29 PM And now for the next shoe dropping: From: "motordetroit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Motor-Detroit NOT sponsoring DEMF stage Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 17:03:20 -0400 Motor-Detroit Will NOT be Sponsoring a Stage at DEMF 2002 Despite reports to the contrary, Motor-Detroit will not be sponsoring a stage at DEMF 2002. "We decided this year that is wasn't in our best interest to be involved." says Motor owner Dan Sordyl. He explains that Pop Culture Media listed Motor as a sponsor this year do to a miscommunication. "We are incredibly proud to have worked with the DEMF in the past, especially the first year," continues Sordyl, "But do to a variety of circumstances, this year we are out." Motor will be open for DEMF afterpartys, including the now traditional Sunday session with Motor resident, John Acquaviva. "John looks forward to it every year, as do we." Say Sordyl. The line-up for Friday and Saturday nights will be announced in the coming weeks. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Record Sale
Hola! I am selling some records from my personal collection on a website called http://www.big12inch.com. There are a few techno release as well as a few from other genres (Hip-Hop, House, Disco, Breakbeat, etc.). All are in good shape and many have only been played once or twice. There are some very rare and hard to find records as well. Happy Diggin! I have a few titles that have not made onto the site yet so if you are looking for a particular title please feel free to contact me off-list or use the request form on the site. Thank You, Malcolm J. McAtee - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Motor Lounge not sponsoring a DEMF stage
So, like my friend is having this bar-b-que on Memorial day weekend - we have a couple of turntables and some good eats. Everyone is invited as it seems nothing else is going to be happening that weekend. ;) MEK Fred Heutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: <313@hyperreal.org> ta.com> cc: Subject: [313] Motor Lounge not sponsoring a DEMF stage 04/15/02 05:29 PM And now for the next shoe dropping: From: "motordetroit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Motor-Detroit NOT sponsoring DEMF stage Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 17:03:20 -0400 Motor-Detroit Will NOT be Sponsoring a Stage at DEMF 2002 Despite reports to the contrary, Motor-Detroit will not be sponsoring a stage at DEMF 2002. "We decided this year that is wasn't in our best interest to be involved." says Motor owner Dan Sordyl. He explains that Pop Culture Media listed Motor as a sponsor this year do to a miscommunication. "We are incredibly proud to have worked with the DEMF in the past, especially the first year," continues Sordyl, "But do to a variety of circumstances, this year we are out." Motor will be open for DEMF afterpartys, including the now traditional Sunday session with Motor resident, John Acquaviva. "John looks forward to it every year, as do we." Say Sordyl. The line-up for Friday and Saturday nights will be announced in the coming weeks. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
