RE: [313] Metro Area live

2002-05-02 Thread Batory, Jason
>according to some there are a few other people who sound like MA...:P altho

>i think its not really true..

Yeah, there are some. Like that $tinkworx fellow perhaps...

Respect
JasonB

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[313] J'acquaviva in LA tomorrow night / DetroitHouseinLA recap

2002-05-02 Thread James Hurlbut
Great news! Just heard that John Acquaviva is djing in LA on thursday 
night. I'll finally get to give this Finalscratch thing the "boogie n' 
bass" test (thats a technical term don't worry if you don't understand) 
here's the link: http://www.remedyent.com/ .Also Alton Miller at Deep on 
the 19th www.deep-la.com. The Terrence Parker/Rick Wade/Mike Huckaby night 
was better than I could have hoped for. Despite the competition of a 
mega-hyped house event the same night, there managed to gather an allright 
turnout. Rick Wade started the night's music, and did not disappoint my 
expectations with his set of deep dirty house. Terence Parker was next. At 
that point the crowd met it's maximum potential in size and energy. Terence 
Parker's set made me remember that house dj's can scratch and still keep a 
party hopping, unheard of in the house scene here AFAIK .   I think alot of 
the more close minded heads were turned off by the amount of tricks TP 
pulls from his sleeves, but personally I was jammin along with every flick. 
And the trainspotter highlight of the night was a routine with double 
original copies of Capricorn's "I Need Love". Solid fun. Finally Mike 
Huckaby finished off the night with some solid pounding grooves to a 
smaller audience of thirsty dancers, eventually fading out the mix at 4 am. 
To be honest I was too lost in the chug to make any insightful remarks 
(chemically free you cynics) about the rest of the night except that it was 
"D"ope. For me, the hard deep style of those djs was a refreshing change of 
pace from the usual house parties here, and juding from the crowd's 
reaction I think most of those in attendence would agree, especially the 
many cats gettin funky on the floor.
Last night, at the latest in a series of events called Black 
Palette Circuitry, Afronaught played a great selection of vinyl and cdrs. 
He played for about three hours, and despite some skip prone decks and a 
couple of spotty mixes it was some serious fun. Real good 2-step and what I 
guess is called broken-beat with a few deep house stompers like Blaze's 
"How Deep is Your Love". He played a couple of great mixes of the track 
with the  "stop, stop and wonder why" vocal, maybe by Dego? Ok thats all.


Jamie


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[313] Karaoke Kalk RE: [313] Andrew Pekler

2002-05-02 Thread Mike Taylor
Actually, I have been curious about Karaoke Kalk. The only release I have 
from the label is Northern Classic by Donna Regina. Upon the first couple 
listens I liked it, but it was more background listening rather than serious 
critcal listening. When I really started paying attention to it I had 
problems with the really bad English-As-Second-Language lyrics. I would have 
enjoyed the album if the lyrics were not so trite.


Does this represent the label as a whole, or are there other releases I 
should be looking out for instead? Where would you recommend I start?


Take care,
mt



>...There is one decent track that would fit in with the first couple
>Pan-American LP's.

Speaking of which, their new LP "The River Made No Sound" on Kranky is
*very* nice IMO. This label and Karaoke Kalk are both really doing it for 
me

at the moment. Go the Ks...

Respect
JasonB





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[313] Harmonia Re: [313] Re: Scape One

2002-05-02 Thread Mike Taylor

Hello,

The Harmonia stuff is not that hard to track down really. I know that Music 
Von is still in print in Japan. It is one of those things that comes down to 
tracking down specialist retailers. You might very well pay through the 
noise for bootlegs, but the audio can be obtained. A good retailer for this 
stuff in Detroit is Stormy Records.


http://www.stormyrecords.com/

The Cluter material was good, but I have always had a soft spot for the 
Cluster and Eno records. After The Heat is an album of weird angular 
grooves. It is a very German, Tutonic rhythm if you know what I mean. There 
are echos of this album in a lot of the stiff German stuff that has been 
coming for the last few years. Very groovy, but not. ;) Cluster and Eno is 
more atmospheric. They are both good, but very different records. I still 
need to get my hands on Harmonia 76, which is Cluster, Michael Rother from 
Neu! and Brian Eno.


My copy of After The Heat is a German LP on Skyy (sp Sky?) and I am not sure 
if it has been reissued or not. My copy of Cluster and Eno was reissued 
through Gyroscope on CD.


One of the best musical experiences of the last couple years was seeing 
Roedelius play piano suites at the DIA. Very lovely soft piano music. If you 
ever get the chance to see him live, it is in your best interest to do so.


Take care,
mt






From: "Jonny McIntosh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "tom churchill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
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Subject: Re: [313] Re: Scape One
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 12:21:32 +0100

> Tiger Sushi - More GDM Vol 1
> The Cluster track on side A is a Krautrock thing from 1974 which I 
haven't

> really got my teeth into yet. Side B has 'Present Pretence' from John
Tejada
> which is simply superb - like a cross between his beautiful downtempo
stuff
> on Defocus and his housier output. Highly recommended.

Cluster were the oddly named Moebius and Roedelius - and often Michael
Rother of Neu! and, once upon a time, Kraftwerk. That trio were also
Harmonia. Check out Harmonia's "Musik Von...", "Harmonia Deluxe". They're
both effin' ace but far too tough to track down. I've heard a fair bit of
really good Cluster stuff (though the fluctuating line ups of so many
interconnected bands is quite confusing) and '74 was a bit of a "kosmische"
creative peak.



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[313] RE: Karaoke Kalk RE: [313] Andrew Pekler

2002-05-02 Thread Batory, Jason
>Does this represent the label as a whole, or are there other releases I 
>should be looking out for instead? Where would you recommend I start?

The music isn't completely representative, no. Although I do think the
"feel" of the album is. I would say to start by checking out Jans Massel aka
Kandis, Senking, Fumble, who has been the main contributer to the label.
There is a Kandis CD called 1996 - 1999 that compiles the early 12"s which
would be a good place to start I guess. Then there is Jorg Follert aka
Wechsel Garland, Wunder, Saucer. The latest Wechsel Garland LP Liberation
von... is really nice, as is the earlier Wunder CD. I'd also check Donna
Regina's earlier works as well, especially the Star Ferry track and its
remixes. I think the latest KK release is an album by Maerz, which I've had
a quick listen to and initially found it to be almost a straight-up pop
album, guitars and all - but more listening is required. There is more which
I haven't mentioned, check out http://www.karaoke-kalk.net/news/news_01.htm
- although its in desperate need of an update.

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Re: [313] RE: Karaoke Kalk RE: [313] Andrew Pekler

2002-05-02 Thread Mark S. Krüx
>I'd also check Donna Regina's earlier works as well, especially the Star
Ferry track
>and its remixes.

The Isolee remix of Star Ferry hasn't left my box in a year:)

Cheers,

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Re: [313] Terry Baldwin

2002-05-02 Thread james bucknell
as far as i know the last things he released were in 1991 on dance mania and
fsr.
however, on the back of the 'the best of future sound records' put out on
rephlex in 1994 it says that "future sound still flourishes today". it goes
onto to say "always expect the unexpected from terry baldwin".
james
www.jbucknell.com


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> Does anyone know if he's still producing records? I was listening to his
> amazing mix of Neal Howard's Indulge last night and it occurred to me that
> apart from a couple of his housemaster Bladwin tracks I didn't know anything
> else that he had done. Nor Neal Howard for that matter, anyone know what he's
> up to???
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Re: [313] demf website

2002-05-02 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I was thinking... Detroit could capitalise on that Eminem song if they 
wanted to. Someone should do a techno answer record calling the shots on
that Moby diss, which turns into a techno diss by default, clarifying that
stuff, just knock it out, put it on the Internet, circulate some vinyls. A
simple techno/electro record, catchy, with a rhyme. It would create a buzz
and everybody would say, 'Hey, what's this underground techno thing?'
Also people should send some CDs to Vibe, The Source, etc with a sticker
"Detroit techno - too cool, too underground, for that muthaf*cker Eminem" or
buy some pillows from the mall, some black silk pillow slips for them, tie a
lovely CD like, say Stacey's Tomorrow, Derrick's Innovator, whatever, with a
black ribbon and a red rose or something and attach a note, "If y'all gonna
sleep on Detroit techno, do it in style." Bombard them with that stuff so
they cannot ignore it. I think Mike Banks was onto something with the way he
handled the Jaguar affair, basically creating all this press by subverting
the media machine... You could take that further. I'm not sure it would
work, but, there's some potential...



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>Subject: RE: [313] demf website
>Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 5:06 PM
>

> It also helps that he is one of the hardest workers in Detroit.
>
> From my dealings with the people who have "made it" or whatever you want to
> call it, the thing that separates all of them is that they work very hard.
> Talent will only take you so far, it all comes down to how hard you work at
> it.
>
> There are a lot of people who want to sit around, smoke dope, not return
> phone calls and not work in the studio who think race is the reason they are
> not blowing up. I do not care what color your skin is, your work ethic
> determines where you end up. Hawtin sells more records than me for a reason,
> he workers harder and smarter than I do.
>
> Where Kharris is coming from, and where I agree with her, it that his image
> is much easier to market than say Juan Atkins. It is much easier for an A&R
> or marketing exec to comprehend you and your weird science fiction music
> when you are a skinny white dude who wears funny glasses and jump suits. The
> larger music industry, in which Hawtin has an advantage, cannot comprehend
> and sell an image of a middle aged black dude from Detroit making weird
> electronic music from outer space. The only thing black they know how to
> sell is rap music and sex jams, period.
>
> This is where race comes into it. Because of Hawtin's skin color, he can
> play on stereotypes that black artists do not have access to. In the small
> indie-dance scene, I do not think color is as big of an issue. In the larger
> industry, where real money is made and where culture at large is
> manufactured, black artists who do not play off of black stereotypes do not
> get signed. Any good Detroit Techno artist is at odds with those racial
> stereotypes in the US music industry, and therefore cannot get ahead. Black
> people don't make sci-fi music, they make songs about sex, greed, and
> violence(unless they are conscious brothers, and then they make typical
> conscious brother music...)
>
> All of that being said, I think that if a lot of the black dudes who cry
> race worked as hard and were as talented as Hawtin, they would be selling a
> hell of a lot more records. The glass ceiling is definitely there, but most
> dudes will never hit it because they do not have what it takes to get that
> far. Juan is a perfect example of somebody who has hit that ceiling. Jeff
> Mills has hit that ceiling. To avoid that ceiling Carl Craig is referencing
> jazz and R&B. Race had nothing to do with why some people have not gotten as
> far Mr. Mills, Mr. Craig, or Mr. Atkins. I do not care what color you are,
> if you have talent and tenacity, you will get ahead in this business.
>
> Take care,
> mt
>
>>From: FC3 Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "'neon tse tse'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>CC: "'313@hyperreal.org'" <313@hyperreal.org>
>>Subject: RE: [313] demf website
>>Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 22:21:19 -0700
>>
>>i'll answer this one!
>>
>>
>> > ability to market himself and his music FAR surpases anyone else
>>in detroit.
>>
>> very interesting -
>>
>> how do you know that ?
>>
>> what are your facts, making you say this ?
>>
>>He is the only Detroit artist that I have seen lately that has had an ad in
>>a magazine from Detroit lately.  DJT-1000 had an ad for "The Last DJ on
>>Earth" CD, but it only took up a quarter of the page from top to bottom.
>>Richie Hawting on the other hand has thrown his picture out and made it
>>recognizable with full page ads, huge posters, and stickers handed out all
>>over the place.  He has made the m_nus symbol almost as recognizable as his
>>face.
>>
>>there is no point in arguing it...he just knows how to market himself.  he
>>isn't ge greatest everbut he is damn good.

[313] Scion::: arrange and process basic channel tracks

2002-05-02 Thread Rooftop

Artist: Scion
Title: arrange and process basic channel tracks
Label: Tresor 200
Productinfo
Scion (Pete Kuschnereit aka Substance and Rene Löwe aka Vainqueur) have
arranged and reworked backcatalog tracks from basic channel (Moritz von
Oswald
and Mark Ernestus) with the help of Ableton's "LIVE" audio software.

The selection is focused on the more clubby tracks of the bc-projects Cyrus
(Enforcement, Recall, Inversion), Phylyps (Trak I, Trak II), Quadrant (Q
1.1, Infinition), Octagon/Octaedre, is including The Climax - basic reshape
and also applying atmospheric tracks as found on the Basic Channel CD (EFA
CD 0-2, 1996). Most of the tracks were previously only available on
(import) 12-inches.

The result is not a simple mix-CD or compilation, but the connection of new
software possibilities combined with Scion's experience as DJs and live
act. So each individual part (= track id on CD) includes two to four tracks
out of the bc catalogue.

about the project:
It is perhaps fitting then that Tresoris releasing a mix album in
2002-nearly a decade after Ernestus and Von Oswald debuted as Basic
Channel-that features nearly the entire back catalog.  In the grand techno
spirit of experimentation and innovation, Chain Reaction recording duo
Scion-Pete Kuschnereit (aka Substance) and Rene Löwe (aka Vainqueur)-mixed
the records with Ableton's Live audio software.  The resulting mix
showcases just how timeless the Basic Channel records truly are, sounding
just as definitive today as a decade ago.

peace
Garo



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[313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Langsman, Marc

Just a quick report on Jeff Mills / Metropolis at the Festival Hall in
London last night

Although Si Begg was orignally on the line-up it looks like he was replaced
by Matthew Herbert, giving it some crazy Radioboy stylings... this was
fairly quality as matthew herbert proceeded to sample/loop crazy sounds from
tearing up gap boxer shorts to chucking cornfalkes around to throwing McD's
burgers in a wheelie-bin ! 

This was followed by a healthy yet equally crazy set from super-collider.
Never seen them live before but it was quite cool to seem them pulling off
some cool visual effects using projectors and a variety of props while
knocking out quality beats :) 

Jeff Mills came on after super collider to introduce the metropolis
screening, and then played a quality set when the film finished. The
festival hall was going fairly mental at this point - loads of people
dancing on seats / rushing the stage / generally going for it :)

overall a top event - tho will be interesting if the RFH agree to do
something like this again ;) 

MaRc 


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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Ian Cheshire
Mate 

I am gutted I could not go!!!

I am so jealous..


Toby Frith did you go as well?

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Just a quick report on Jeff Mills / Metropolis at the Festival Hall in
London last night

Although Si Begg was orignally on the line-up it looks like he was replaced
by Matthew Herbert, giving it some crazy Radioboy stylings... this was
fairly quality as matthew herbert proceeded to sample/loop crazy sounds from
tearing up gap boxer shorts to chucking cornfalkes around to throwing McD's
burgers in a wheelie-bin ! 

This was followed by a healthy yet equally crazy set from super-collider.
Never seen them live before but it was quite cool to seem them pulling off
some cool visual effects using projectors and a variety of props while
knocking out quality beats :) 

Jeff Mills came on after super collider to introduce the metropolis
screening, and then played a quality set when the film finished. The
festival hall was going fairly mental at this point - loads of people
dancing on seats / rushing the stage / generally going for it :)

overall a top event - tho will be interesting if the RFH agree to do
something like this again ;) 

MaRc 



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Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Toby Frith
Yeah Ian, there was myself, Rob, Anya, Ken and a few others.

I really enjoyed Radioboy's set, very dynamic and all, but I think one would
get a bit tired of him
destroying stuff all the time. Thankfully he's no one-trick pony.  Missed
most of Super_Collider, but
I didn't really dig what I heard at the end.  The screening of "Metropolis"
was v.good. In order to appreciate
the CD, I think you have to watch the film with the music. I enjoyed it
thoroughly, and it posed
the question of how tough it must have been to create a soundtrack that
didn't get too "Vangelis-like", i.e
just lots of atmospherics.  "Robot Replica" makes a lot more sense now.



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Subject: RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall


> Mate
>
> I am gutted I could not go!!!
>
> I am so jealous..
>
>
> Toby Frith did you go as well?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 02 May 2002 09:29
> To: 313 Detroit
> Subject: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>
>
>
> Just a quick report on Jeff Mills / Metropolis at the Festival Hall in
> London last night
>
> Although Si Begg was orignally on the line-up it looks like he was
replaced
> by Matthew Herbert, giving it some crazy Radioboy stylings... this was
> fairly quality as matthew herbert proceeded to sample/loop crazy sounds
from
> tearing up gap boxer shorts to chucking cornfalkes around to throwing
McD's
> burgers in a wheelie-bin !
>
> This was followed by a healthy yet equally crazy set from super-collider.
> Never seen them live before but it was quite cool to seem them pulling off
> some cool visual effects using projectors and a variety of props while
> knocking out quality beats :)
>
> Jeff Mills came on after super collider to introduce the metropolis
> screening, and then played a quality set when the film finished. The
> festival hall was going fairly mental at this point - loads of people
> dancing on seats / rushing the stage / generally going for it :)
>
> overall a top event - tho will be interesting if the RFH agree to do
> something like this again ;)
>
> MaRc
>
>
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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Langsman, Marc

just checking out the radioBoy cd they were handing out last night -
probably not the best listening for first thing in the morning ;) 

>-Original Message-
>From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 9:45 AM
>To: Ian Cheshire; 'Langsman, Marc'; 313 Detroit
>Subject: Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>
>
>Yeah Ian, there was myself, Rob, Anya, Ken and a few others.
>
>I really enjoyed Radioboy's set, very dynamic and all, but I 
>think one would
>get a bit tired of him
>destroying stuff all the time. Thankfully he's no one-trick 
>pony.  Missed
>most of Super_Collider, but
>I didn't really dig what I heard at the end.  The screening of 
>"Metropolis"
>was v.good. In order to appreciate
>the CD, I think you have to watch the film with the music. I enjoyed it
>thoroughly, and it posed
>the question of how tough it must have been to create a soundtrack that
>didn't get too "Vangelis-like", i.e
>just lots of atmospherics.  "Robot Replica" makes a lot more sense now.
>
>
>
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>To: 'Langsman, Marc' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 313 Detroit 
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>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 9:39 AM
>Subject: RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>
>
>> Mate
>>
>> I am gutted I could not go!!!
>>
>> I am so jealous..
>>
>>
>> Toby Frith did you go as well?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 02 May 2002 09:29
>> To: 313 Detroit
>> Subject: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>>
>>
>>
>> Just a quick report on Jeff Mills / Metropolis at the 
>Festival Hall in
>> London last night
>>
>> Although Si Begg was orignally on the line-up it looks like he was
>replaced
>> by Matthew Herbert, giving it some crazy Radioboy 
>stylings... this was
>> fairly quality as matthew herbert proceeded to sample/loop 
>crazy sounds
>from
>> tearing up gap boxer shorts to chucking cornfalkes around to throwing
>McD's
>> burgers in a wheelie-bin !
>>
>> This was followed by a healthy yet equally crazy set from 
>super-collider.
>> Never seen them live before but it was quite cool to seem 
>them pulling off
>> some cool visual effects using projectors and a variety of 
>props while
>> knocking out quality beats :)
>>
>> Jeff Mills came on after super collider to introduce the metropolis
>> screening, and then played a quality set when the film finished. The
>> festival hall was going fairly mental at this point - loads of people
>> dancing on seats / rushing the stage / generally going for it :)
>>
>> overall a top event - tho will be interesting if the RFH agree to do
>> something like this again ;)
>>
>> MaRc
>>
>>
>> 
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[313] Re [313]: Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Simon Pascoe

Hi,

got to agree it was a brilliant night. It was great to hear the Metropolis 
soundtrack in context, and just to see the film for the first time - very 
impressive for a 1926 vintage film, definitely ahead of it's time. It was 
good to see all of the usual UK 313 suspects (hi Nick, Alice, Anya ) and a 
lot of the familiar UK techno faces getting down to Jeff's set at the end of 
the night. If you get the chance to see Metropolis I'd recommend it.


It was a very strange experience seeing it all go off at the Royal Festival 
Hall - the only other time I've been there was when I went to see Placido 
Domingo with my Mum (don't laugh ;-), I don't remember there being any stage 
diving and people jumping off of balconies on that occasion - and there was 
definitely no funk. In fact I don't even remember anyone dancing either.


That was pretty damn good for a school night.

sImon



From: "Langsman, Marc" To: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: [313] 
Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 09:28:48 +0100



Just a quick report on Jeff Mills / Metropolis at the Festival Hall in 
London last night


Although Si Begg was orignally on the line-up it looks like he was replaced 
by Matthew Herbert, giving it some crazy Radioboy stylings... this was 
fairly quality as matthew herbert proceeded to sample/loop crazy sounds 
from tearing up gap boxer shorts to chucking cornfalkes around to throwing 
McD's burgers in a wheelie-bin !


This was followed by a healthy yet equally crazy set from super-collider. 
Never seen them live before but it was quite cool to seem them pulling off 
some cool visual effects using projectors and a variety of props while 
knocking out quality beats :)


Jeff Mills came on after super collider to introduce the metropolis 
screening, and then played a quality set when the film finished. The 
festival hall was going fairly mental at this point - loads of people 
dancing on seats / rushing the stage / generally going for it :)


overall a top event - tho will be interesting if the RFH agree to do 
something like this again ;)


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Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread stewart
I made it along as well. Herbert was definatly fun. he did a similar thing at 
the Big Chill Festival, but also had a female vocalist and was playing live 
keyboards over the top of his on the fly sampling shinanigans. The best thing 
for me though was the man himself, jerking around like some mad Tefal 
scientist. Its always heartening to see someone in the flesh whose music you've 
been listening to for so long and to discover that they are a clearly insane :)

Super Collider were pretty cool, though not really my thing. Jamie Lidell had a 
fairly good stage presence though and visually they were cool.

I definatly agree that Mills' music sat really well with thew film, especially 
the parts with the workers working and then destroying the machines. 
Unfortunatly there were a couple of idiots a few rows in front who ignored most 
of the film and disrespectfully talked fairly loudly throughout it, then had 
the nerve to jump up and start bowing in Jeff's presence as soon as he appeared 
behind the decks. Shameful. I left when he started spinning and everyone 
stormed the stage, it was fairly comical for a while, but as a musician Mills 
is top notch, as a DJ i'm not really into his style.

Good night though.

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Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Tim Maughan

is there any news on a DVD release? i'm sure i read last year that it was
going to happen...

on 2/5/02 9:45 am, Toby Frith at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Yeah Ian, there was myself, Rob, Anya, Ken and a few others.
> 
> I really enjoyed Radioboy's set, very dynamic and all, but I think one would
> get a bit tired of him
> destroying stuff all the time. Thankfully he's no one-trick pony.  Missed
> most of Super_Collider, but
> I didn't really dig what I heard at the end.  The screening of "Metropolis"
> was v.good. In order to appreciate
> the CD, I think you have to watch the film with the music. I enjoyed it
> thoroughly, and it posed
> the question of how tough it must have been to create a soundtrack that
> didn't get too "Vangelis-like", i.e
> just lots of atmospherics.  "Robot Replica" makes a lot more sense now.
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Ian Cheshire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 'Langsman, Marc' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 313 Detroit <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 9:39 AM
> Subject: RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
> 
> 
>> Mate
>> 
>> I am gutted I could not go!!!
>> 
>> I am so jealous..
>> 
>> 
>> Toby Frith did you go as well?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 02 May 2002 09:29
>> To: 313 Detroit
>> Subject: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Just a quick report on Jeff Mills / Metropolis at the Festival Hall in
>> London last night
>> 
>> Although Si Begg was orignally on the line-up it looks like he was
> replaced
>> by Matthew Herbert, giving it some crazy Radioboy stylings... this was
>> fairly quality as matthew herbert proceeded to sample/loop crazy sounds
> from
>> tearing up gap boxer shorts to chucking cornfalkes around to throwing
> McD's
>> burgers in a wheelie-bin !
>> 
>> This was followed by a healthy yet equally crazy set from super-collider.
>> Never seen them live before but it was quite cool to seem them pulling off
>> some cool visual effects using projectors and a variety of props while
>> knocking out quality beats :)
>> 
>> Jeff Mills came on after super collider to introduce the metropolis
>> screening, and then played a quality set when the film finished. The
>> festival hall was going fairly mental at this point - loads of people
>> dancing on seats / rushing the stage / generally going for it :)
>> 
>> overall a top event - tho will be interesting if the RFH agree to do
>> something like this again ;)
>> 
>> MaRc
>> 
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Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread rob webb

Toby wrote:

I really enjoyed Radioboy's set, very dynamic and all, but I think one 
would

get a bit tired of him
destroying stuff all the time. Thankfully he's no one-trick pony.  Missed
most of Super_Collider, but
I didn't really dig what I heard at the end.  The screening of "Metropolis"
was v.good. In order to appreciate
the CD, I think you have to watch the film with the music. I enjoyed it
thoroughly, and it posed
the question of how tough it must have been to create a soundtrack that
didn't get too "Vangelis-like", i.e
just lots of atmospherics.  "Robot Replica" makes a lot more sense now.


spot on Toby, i thought Metropolis was excellent too - Mills' soundtrack 
matches the flow and mood of the film really well.  it's difficult to know 
what to make of his dj set afterwards.  on one level it kicked, but on 
another i found to be a bit samey - other than "Jupiter Jazz" it was an 
hour's worth of hardish techno.  a bit more variety would've been good, but 
then again would the crowd've been into that?  it's like the DE9 cds... i 
find myself uncontrolably bobbing along to the music, even tho it's also 
kinda boring.  guess that's the 4/4 for you.  hmmm.


as for Matthew Herbert - imho he puts on a great show, but as far as the 
music's concerned i'd rather hear a Herbert set than a Radioboy one.


i quite enjoyed Super_Collider, and it looked like they were into it 
themselves.  as Marc said their performance used some v.creative visuals, 
and the tracks themselves were pretty cool - loads of heavy funky bass.  i 
wasn't too impressed by their first lp, so it'll be interesting to hear how 
the new one sounds.




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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Langsman, Marc
>what to make of his dj set afterwards.  on one level it kicked, but on 
>another i found to be a bit samey - other than "Jupiter Jazz" 
>it was an 
>hour's worth of hardish techno.  a bit more variety would've 
>been good


I quite enjoyed it - packed full of mills/UR classics - The Bells, Changes
of Life, Jaguar... though it sound like he was pumping out most of the
purpose maker back catalogue ;)

Was suprised that he didnt play either of the new UR tunes :( 


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Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Toby Frith
The guy who dangled himself off one of the boxes at the end of Mill's sets
did some serious damage to his ankles apparently. Too much watching
"Quadrophenia".







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> >what to make of his dj set afterwards.  on one level it kicked, but on
> >another i found to be a bit samey - other than "Jupiter Jazz"
> >it was an
> >hour's worth of hardish techno.  a bit more variety would've
> >been good
>
>
> I quite enjoyed it - packed full of mills/UR classics - The Bells, Changes
> of Life, Jaguar... though it sound like he was pumping out most of the
> purpose maker back catalogue ;)
>
> Was suprised that he didnt play either of the new UR tunes

>
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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Odeluga, Ken
There was quite a bit of tomfoolery for such a relatively 'short' event ...
(it must have been an effort to get that slaughtered so quick, unless people
got a head start on me) ... a couple next to me had their seats 'stolen' by
two good-natured drunks, who subsequently managed to sleep through the whole
thing!

>-Original Message-
>From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:35 AM
>To: Langsman, Marc; 'rob webb'; 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>
>
>The guy who dangled himself off one of the boxes at the end of Mill's sets
>did some serious damage to his ankles apparently. Too much watching
>"Quadrophenia".
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>To: 'rob webb' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:27 AM
>Subject: RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>
>
>> >what to make of his dj set afterwards.  on one level it kicked, but on
>> >another i found to be a bit samey - other than "Jupiter Jazz"
>> >it was an
>> >hour's worth of hardish techno.  a bit more variety would've
>> >been good
>>
>>
>> I quite enjoyed it - packed full of mills/UR classics - The
>Bells, Changes
>> of Life, Jaguar... though it sound like he was pumping out most of the
>> purpose maker back catalogue ;)
>>
>> Was suprised that he didnt play either of the new UR tunes
>
>>
>>
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Re: [313] Mole people

2002-05-02 Thread Otto

At 15:21 30-4-02 -0700, you wrote:
>who is behind this??  i got the first one I have ever seen MOPE 04 and
>havn't seen or heard of any others.  am i missing out on something, here??

From what I know, Mole People = Gary Martin (Teknotika) but I'm not 100% sure.

Otto, back at work, recovering from a wicked Metro Area liveset :)


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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Langsman, Marc
yeah it was fairly nuts. What was the deal with "Woop woop" / "Come on Jeff"
everytime a kick came in during the film ??
[although respect to the guy giving it "Rewind Selecta" when the projector
stopped after the film started ;) ] 

Dunno if this was the same guy, but someone randomly climed up into our box
during the set and then preceeded to clim up to the top row of boxes !?
*nutter* 

It seemed like there were quite a few folk who dont get out too much ;) 

>-Original Message-
>From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:51 AM
>To: Toby Frith; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
>Subject: RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>
>
>There was quite a bit of tomfoolery for such a relatively 
>'short' event ...
>(it must have been an effort to get that slaughtered so quick, 
>unless people
>got a head start on me) ... a couple next to me had their 
>seats 'stolen' by
>two good-natured drunks, who subsequently managed to sleep 
>through the whole
>thing!
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:35 AM
>>To: Langsman, Marc; 'rob webb'; 313@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>>
>>
>>The guy who dangled himself off one of the boxes at the end 
>of Mill's sets
>>did some serious damage to his ankles apparently. Too much watching
>>"Quadrophenia".
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: Langsman, Marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: 'rob webb' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
>>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:27 AM
>>Subject: RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
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>>
>>> >what to make of his dj set afterwards.  on one level it 
>kicked, but on
>>> >another i found to be a bit samey - other than "Jupiter Jazz"
>>> >it was an
>>> >hour's worth of hardish techno.  a bit more variety would've
>>> >been good
>>>
>>>
>>> I quite enjoyed it - packed full of mills/UR classics - The
>>Bells, Changes
>>> of Life, Jaguar... though it sound like he was pumping out 
>most of the
>>> purpose maker back catalogue ;)
>>>
>>> Was suprised that he didnt play either of the new UR tunes
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Odeluga, Ken
My tuppeny worth: As I suggested to Toby Frith earlier, Metropolis is a film
which worked intriguingly on many levels and I agree 200% that "In order to
appreciate
>>the CD, I think you have to watch the film with the music."  You know,
I don't think I appreciated *just* how true that was until it started
rolling ... I rank my music by order of merit at home (anorak & proud!) and
Metropolis has to go to the front of 2000 after last night ...

Something else which I found striking is that you've got to see the thing
re-dubbed with the Jeff Mills's Metropolis 'score' to appreciate what
happens when you dub a primarily digitally-produced track to analogue
format. The sound quality changes somewhat - but I don't mean interms of
'worse/better':  I eman that the usual analogue effect of 'warming' sounds
up, applies. It gives the whole thing a much more cinematic feel, moods and
textures are enhanced and the sharp sort of 'cd' quality edge is distilled.

Overall, to me, Jeff Mills is a hero for reviving a film which is so classic
it's almost archetypal -especially the underlying theme - it's always
shocking to remember that millions of Americans (in a different America,
true) espoused the ideas which that film encapsulates, less than a century
ago. That Jeff Mills did it with such panache ... it's commendable I think.
Maybe one day, it will be commended.
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>From: rob webb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:17 AM
>To: 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>
>
>Toby wrote:
>
>>I really enjoyed Radioboy's set, very dynamic and all, but I think one
>>would
>>get a bit tired of him
>>destroying stuff all the time. Thankfully he's no one-trick pony.  Missed
>>most of Super_Collider, but
>>I didn't really dig what I heard at the end.  The screening of
>"Metropolis"
>>was v.good. In order to appreciate
>>the CD, I think you have to watch the film with the music. I enjoyed it
>>thoroughly, and it posed
>>the question of how tough it must have been to create a soundtrack that
>>didn't get too "Vangelis-like", i.e
>>just lots of atmospherics.  "Robot Replica" makes a lot more sense now.
>
>spot on Toby, i thought Metropolis was excellent too - Mills' soundtrack
>matches the flow and mood of the film really well.  it's difficult to know
>what to make of his dj set afterwards.  on one level it kicked, but on
>another i found to be a bit samey - other than "Jupiter Jazz" it was an
>hour's worth of hardish techno.  a bit more variety would've been
>good, but
>then again would the crowd've been into that?  it's like the DE9 cds... i
>find myself uncontrolably bobbing along to the music, even tho it's also
>kinda boring.  guess that's the 4/4 for you.  hmmm.
>
>as for Matthew Herbert - imho he puts on a great show, but as far as the
>music's concerned i'd rather hear a Herbert set than a Radioboy one.
>
>i quite enjoyed Super_Collider, and it looked like they were into it
>themselves.  as Marc said their performance used some v.creative visuals,
>and the tracks themselves were pretty cool - loads of heavy funky bass.  i
>wasn't too impressed by their first lp, so it'll be interesting to
>hear how
>the new one sounds.
>
>
>
>rob
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Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Tim Maughan

who the hell are all these people? since when has london had hordes of beer
swilling mills fans.?

(well, ok there used to be enough to fill Club UK or the complex on a friday
night...but i thought they were all at hoe listening to moby cds now?)

;)



on 2/5/02 10:57 am, Langsman, Marc at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> yeah it was fairly nuts. What was the deal with "Woop woop" / "Come on Jeff"
> everytime a kick came in during the film ??
> [although respect to the guy giving it "Rewind Selecta" when the projector
> stopped after the film started ;) ]
> 
> Dunno if this was the same guy, but someone randomly climed up into our box
> during the set and then preceeded to clim up to the top row of boxes !?
> *nutter* 
> 
> It seemed like there were quite a few folk who dont get out too much ;)
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:51 AM
>> To: Toby Frith; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
>> Subject: RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>> 
>> 
>> There was quite a bit of tomfoolery for such a relatively
>> 'short' event ...
>> (it must have been an effort to get that slaughtered so quick,
>> unless people
>> got a head start on me) ... a couple next to me had their
>> seats 'stolen' by
>> two good-natured drunks, who subsequently managed to sleep
>> through the whole
>> thing!
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:35 AM
>>> To: Langsman, Marc; 'rob webb'; 313@hyperreal.org
>>> Subject: Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The guy who dangled himself off one of the boxes at the end
>> of Mill's sets
>>> did some serious damage to his ankles apparently. Too much watching
>>> "Quadrophenia".
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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> what to make of his dj set afterwards.  on one level it
>> kicked, but on
> another i found to be a bit samey - other than "Jupiter Jazz"
> it was an
> hour's worth of hardish techno.  a bit more variety would've
> been good
 
 
 I quite enjoyed it - packed full of mills/UR classics - The
>>> Bells, Changes
 of Life, Jaguar... though it sound like he was pumping out
>> most of the
 purpose maker back catalogue ;)
 
 Was suprised that he didnt play either of the new UR tunes
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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Yeah the "come on Jeff" was surreal! But it did display a capacity for
irony!

It highlights the fact that for many of us, there's still a sort of
incongruousness in listening to that kind of music, en masse, when it's not
being immeadiately 'played' (djed I mean) or live. ...

I'd like to see more events like that, which was effectively a different way
(more contemplative? OK, just a little bit!) of appreciating the music.

K

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>
>yeah it was fairly nuts. What was the deal with "Woop woop" /
>"Come on Jeff"
>everytime a kick came in during the film ??
>[although respect to the guy giving it "Rewind Selecta" when the projector
>stopped after the film started ;) ]
>
>Dunno if this was the same guy, but someone randomly climed up into our box
>during the set and then preceeded to clim up to the top row of boxes !?
>*nutter*
>
>It seemed like there were quite a few folk who dont get out too much ;)
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:51 AM
>>To: Toby Frith; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
>>Subject: RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
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>>
>>There was quite a bit of tomfoolery for such a relatively
>>'short' event ...
>>(it must have been an effort to get that slaughtered so quick,
>>unless people
>>got a head start on me) ... a couple next to me had their
>>seats 'stolen' by
>>two good-natured drunks, who subsequently managed to sleep
>>through the whole
>>thing!
>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:35 AM
>>>To: Langsman, Marc; 'rob webb'; 313@hyperreal.org
>>>Subject: Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
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>>>
>>>The guy who dangled himself off one of the boxes at the end
>>of Mill's sets
>>>did some serious damage to his ankles apparently. Too much watching
>>>"Quadrophenia".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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 >what to make of his dj set afterwards.  on one level it
>>kicked, but on
 >another i found to be a bit samey - other than "Jupiter Jazz"
 >it was an
 >hour's worth of hardish techno.  a bit more variety would've
 >been good


 I quite enjoyed it - packed full of mills/UR classics - The
>>>Bells, Changes
 of Life, Jaguar... though it sound like he was pumping out
>>most of the
 purpose maker back catalogue ;)

 Was suprised that he didnt play either of the new UR tunes
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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Langsman, Marc

I totally agree with that - I have one of the metropolis 12's at home which
I quite like, but never really played loads - I dug it out and slapped it on
this morning and appreciated it a load more ! :)

Think Im gonna have to invest in the full album - though a DVD release would
be great ! 

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>My tuppeny worth: As I suggested to Toby Frith earlier, 
>Metropolis is a film
>which worked intriguingly on many levels and I agree 200% that 
>"In order to
>appreciate
>>>the CD, I think you have to watch the film with the music." 
> You know,
>I don't think I appreciated *just* how true that was until it started
>rolling ... I rank my music by order of merit at home (anorak 
>& proud!) and
>Metropolis has to go to the front of 2000 after last night ...
>
>Something else which I found striking is that you've got to 
>see the thing
>re-dubbed with the Jeff Mills's Metropolis 'score' to appreciate what
>happens when you dub a primarily digitally-produced track to analogue
>format. The sound quality changes somewhat - but I don't mean 
>interms of
>'worse/better':  I eman that the usual analogue effect of 
>'warming' sounds
>up, applies. It gives the whole thing a much more cinematic 
>feel, moods and
>textures are enhanced and the sharp sort of 'cd' quality edge 
>is distilled.
>
>Overall, to me, Jeff Mills is a hero for reviving a film which 
>is so classic
>it's almost archetypal -especially the underlying theme - it's always
>shocking to remember that millions of Americans (in a 
>different America,
>true) espoused the ideas which that film encapsulates, less 
>than a century
>ago. That Jeff Mills did it with such panache ... it's 
>commendable I think.
>Maybe one day, it will be commended.
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>>To: 313@hyperreal.org
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>>
>>Toby wrote:
>>
>>>I really enjoyed Radioboy's set, very dynamic and all, but I 
>think one
>>>would
>>>get a bit tired of him
>>>destroying stuff all the time. Thankfully he's no one-trick 
>pony.  Missed
>>>most of Super_Collider, but
>>>I didn't really dig what I heard at the end.  The screening of
>>"Metropolis"
>>>was v.good. In order to appreciate
>>>the CD, I think you have to watch the film with the music. I 
>enjoyed it
>>>thoroughly, and it posed
>>>the question of how tough it must have been to create a 
>soundtrack that
>>>didn't get too "Vangelis-like", i.e
>>>just lots of atmospherics.  "Robot Replica" makes a lot more 
>sense now.
>>
>>spot on Toby, i thought Metropolis was excellent too - Mills' 
>soundtrack
>>matches the flow and mood of the film really well.  it's 
>difficult to know
>>what to make of his dj set afterwards.  on one level it kicked, but on
>>another i found to be a bit samey - other than "Jupiter Jazz" 
>it was an
>>hour's worth of hardish techno.  a bit more variety would've been
>>good, but
>>then again would the crowd've been into that?  it's like the 
>DE9 cds... i
>>find myself uncontrolably bobbing along to the music, even 
>tho it's also
>>kinda boring.  guess that's the 4/4 for you.  hmmm.
>>
>>as for Matthew Herbert - imho he puts on a great show, but as 
>far as the
>>music's concerned i'd rather hear a Herbert set than a Radioboy one.
>>
>>i quite enjoyed Super_Collider, and it looked like they were into it
>>themselves.  as Marc said their performance used some 
>v.creative visuals,
>>and the tracks themselves were pretty cool - loads of heavy 
>funky bass.  i
>>wasn't too impressed by their first lp, so it'll be interesting to
>>hear how
>>the new one sounds.
>>
>>
>>
>>rob
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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

> Think Im gonna have to invest in the full album - though a 
> DVD release would
> be great ! 

I doubt if there will be a DVD release of the Mills cut of Metropolis. The
Fritz Lang Erbe is really carefull about re-releases of Metropolis. When
Metropolis was showed in Amsterdam the Fritz Lang Erbe demanded that it
would be free for everybody.

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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Langsman, Marc
>I doubt if there will be a DVD release of the Mills cut of 
>Metropolis. The
>Fritz Lang Erbe is really carefull about re-releases of 
>Metropolis. When
>Metropolis was showed in Amsterdam the Fritz Lang Erbe demanded that it
>would be free for everybody.


A free to download SVCD/DivX would be good if they cant do a DVD :) 


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[313] london 9 - 12 may?

2002-05-02 Thread jurren baars


i'm thinking of coming over to london for the 3 chairs event @ plastic 
people, but was wondering what else is going on in london that weekend? even 
though i can stay at an old college mate's appartment, i feel flying over to 
london just for recordshopping and one party is a bit expensive [if not 
extremely decadent], i need another excuses to make the trip. any info 
appreciated.


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Re: [313] Metropolis DVD release...

2002-05-02 Thread Mark S. Krüx
> I doubt if there will be a DVD release of the Mills cut of Metropolis. The
> Fritz Lang Erbe is really carefull about re-releases of Metropolis. When
> Metropolis was showed in Amsterdam the Fritz Lang Erbe demanded that it
> would be free for everybody.

When Grammenos and I saw Metropolis here in NYC last summer I seem to recall
Jeff saying that he intended to do a DVD release,  and that he had
permission to do so.  Of course this all may very well have changed since
last summer.  The plan is/was to place both his first edit of the film (more
of a Mega-mix kind of thing) along with the final one and the sountrack all
on the same disc.

As to the film,  I have been a fan of Lang's film ever since I first saw it
in my pre-teen years.  When I first picked up the Metropolis "12 on Axis,
while I kind of dug it,  I knew I wouldn't fully appreciate it until seeing
Mills' edit of the film...and I was right too;-)  The NY screening wasn't
quite as mad as the London one sounds,  the crowd here was definitely skewed
towards the filmista set as opposed to a techno crowd.  We also got a
question/answer session with Jeff after the film,  which doesn't sound as it
would have quite come off at the London screening.

Laters,

m*


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Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Jonny McIntosh
And mine too:

> My tuppeny worth

I thought the film was almost awful. I'm glad they cut it down. God only
knows why such a lumbering primary school plot originally required over two
and half hours. The feeble grasp of Marxism (in the 1920s for God's sake!)
is bad enough, never mind the saccharine "love conquers all" resolution. Oh
dear. Visually, though, "Metropolis" entirely deserves it's reputation. The
robot replica was pretty techno. Mills' music is ace, but I don't think it
fitted all that well, though it worked best when it was more storming:
"Robot Replica" and the destroy the machines scene. There were a lot of
moments where I thought the music was ill timed - though it was cool to
watch a film with the soundtrack as the object of interest, and I think I
appreciate much more how much effort has to go into scores to be successful.
Scoring for a silent movie and striking the balance between subtlety and
expressing when there's no dialogue is probably even harder. I think Mills'
Metropolis comes down more on the, err, "Scarface" side of that balance :)

>From where I was sat in cheap seats, the mosh pit that developed during the
DJ set was pretty entertaining, though some charted accountant behind me
started dancing as if he'd been restraining himself all evening at this
point and whipped out one of those little light gadgets.

Matt Herbert put on a great show. Though I still liked the idea of it better
than the sound. I got one of those free cds which I've not listened to yet,
but I might do as requested and pass it on :) Super Collider, by contrast,
seemed pretty inept. I really liked the LP, but this show, IMO, was like
sitting through bad performance art set to turgid trip hop (with a weak
drummer to boot).

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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Odeluga, Ken
The feeble grasp of Marxism (in the 1920s for God's sake!)
>is bad enough, never mind the saccharine "love conquers all" resolution. Oh
>dear.

Naaah - you're ommitting a vital fact Jonny! This is 1930s America,  happy
endings and easily-comprehensible plots were virtually compulsory. Think
studio system and remember political interfence/patronage  (hmmm... that
sounds very contemporary, 'Black Hawk Down' anyone?)

Also, do you remember Frank Capra's "It's A Wonderful Life"? Remember the
part when he tries out being dead and suddenly, in an ostensibly quite
treakly, not to say twee film, we get 5 minutes of [EMAIL PROTECTED] near 
actualite:
Gangsters, prohibition, McCarthyism, prostitution and hints of more
international warefare ... then it all goes back to normal. Phew! Jimmy
Stewart decides against it and all's well that ends well ... But, for me,
the juxtuposition jarred so much that I wasn't really convinced that the
ending depicted what Capra was essentially trying to say. I got a similar
feeling in seeing Metropolis  - both visually and thematically. Anyway, this
all remains mho and of course you were entitled to despise it.

Best,

Ken


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>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 12:19 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
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>
>
>And mine too:
>
>> My tuppeny worth
>
>I thought the film was almost awful. I'm glad they cut it down. God only
>knows why such a lumbering primary school plot originally required over two
>and half hours. The feeble grasp of Marxism (in the 1920s for God's sake!)
>is bad enough, never mind the saccharine "love conquers all" resolution. Oh
>dear. Visually, though, "Metropolis" entirely deserves it's reputation. The
>robot replica was pretty techno. Mills' music is ace, but I don't think it
>fitted all that well, though it worked best when it was more storming:
>"Robot Replica" and the destroy the machines scene. There were a lot of
>moments where I thought the music was ill timed - though it was cool to
>watch a film with the soundtrack as the object of interest, and I think I
>appreciate much more how much effort has to go into scores to be
>successful.
>Scoring for a silent movie and striking the balance between subtlety and
>expressing when there's no dialogue is probably even harder. I think Mills'
>Metropolis comes down more on the, err, "Scarface" side of that balance :)
>
>>From where I was sat in cheap seats, the mosh pit that developed during the
>DJ set was pretty entertaining, though some charted accountant behind me
>started dancing as if he'd been restraining himself all evening at this
>point and whipped out one of those little light gadgets.
>
>Matt Herbert put on a great show. Though I still liked the idea of
>it better
>than the sound. I got one of those free cds which I've not listened to yet,
>but I might do as requested and pass it on :) Super Collider, by contrast,
>seemed pretty inept. I really liked the LP, but this show, IMO, was like
>sitting through bad performance art set to turgid trip hop (with a weak
>drummer to boot).
>
>Oh, and it was a tremendous view from the balcony out behind the stalls.
>
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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Langsman, Marc


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>sitting through bad performance art set to turgid trip hop (with a weak
>drummer to boot).


Is that Christian Vogel ?


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Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Toby Frith
I'd agree with the Super_Collider comments. It looked like an A-Level Art
performance. Everybody seems to be raving about their new LP though.

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> And mine too:
>
> > My tuppeny worth
>
> I thought the film was almost awful. I'm glad they cut it down. God only
> knows why such a lumbering primary school plot originally required over
two
> and half hours. The feeble grasp of Marxism (in the 1920s for God's sake!)
> is bad enough, never mind the saccharine "love conquers all" resolution.
Oh
> dear. Visually, though, "Metropolis" entirely deserves it's reputation.
The
> robot replica was pretty techno. Mills' music is ace, but I don't think it
> fitted all that well, though it worked best when it was more storming:
> "Robot Replica" and the destroy the machines scene. There were a lot of
> moments where I thought the music was ill timed - though it was cool to
> watch a film with the soundtrack as the object of interest, and I think I
> appreciate much more how much effort has to go into scores to be
successful.
> Scoring for a silent movie and striking the balance between subtlety and
> expressing when there's no dialogue is probably even harder. I think
Mills'
> Metropolis comes down more on the, err, "Scarface" side of that balance :)
>
> From where I was sat in cheap seats, the mosh pit that developed during
the
> DJ set was pretty entertaining, though some charted accountant behind me
> started dancing as if he'd been restraining himself all evening at this
> point and whipped out one of those little light gadgets.
>
> Matt Herbert put on a great show. Though I still liked the idea of it
better
> than the sound. I got one of those free cds which I've not listened to
yet,
> but I might do as requested and pass it on :) Super Collider, by contrast,
> seemed pretty inept. I really liked the LP, but this show, IMO, was like
> sitting through bad performance art set to turgid trip hop (with a weak
> drummer to boot).
>
> Oh, and it was a tremendous view from the balcony out behind the stalls.
>
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Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread stewart
> >sitting through bad performance art set to turgid trip hop (with a weak
> >drummer to boot).
> 
> 
> Is that Christian Vogel ?


No, Vogel was working working what looked like some fairly ancient equipment 
and even did a bit of singing at one point to add some bass to Lidells vocals. 
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[313] FW: track mode party with larry heard @ demf - Venue change!!!

2002-05-02 Thread Jones, George
Passin' the information along.

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Here are the updated details, notice that there has been a venue change.  
Please post to 313 list:

What:   Track Mode Recordings Party (trackmode.com)

When:   Sunday May 26, 2002, during DEMF, Detroit USA

Where:  CPop (not the DEMF stage, but venue
located on Woodward St., not far from Hart Plaza
https://www.cpop.com/gu/index.asp

Price:  about $20 USD at open, $30 USD at peak

Time:   Door open at 10pm

Lineup: 

Live performances at open:

Hanna
Kenny Dixon, Jr.
Larry Heard (aka Mr. Fingers)


DJs after live peformances:

Brett Dancer (Track Mode, NYC)
Robert Barrett (Music Is... Records, London)
Theo Parrish (Sound Signature, Detroit)

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Re: [313] london 9 - 12 may?

2002-05-02 Thread Otto

Jurren wrote:

> i feel flying over to london just for recordshopping and one
> party is a bit expensive [if not extremely decadent],

Welcome to the wonderful world of TechnoTourism (c)

:)

Otto


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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Odeluga, Ken
>Erm, it's from 1920s Germany! I've never seen "It's A Wonderful Life",

Oh yeah, so it is ... apologies, don't mind me - but I still like the film,
the edit & JM's score for the same reasons. But whatever.

Anyway, what did you think of Mills' set/djing? ... I thought it was nice to
have a little bird's eye view of what he was doing for a change! Man, he's
fast! - although I noticed a few hiccups, as for the content, hmmm ... I
thought he'd moved on  but of course, I bopped along all the same...

>-Original Message-
>From: Jonny McIntosh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 1:01 PM
>To: Odeluga, Ken
>Subject: Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>
>
>Erm, it's from 1920s Germany! I've never seen "It's A Wonderful
>Life", but I
>don't think there's any moment of comparable moment of lucidity in
>Metropolis in any case: no matter what Lang was trying to say, I can't
>discern any message of substance. Anyway, all in my most humble opinion :)
>
>J
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Jonny McIntosh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org"
><313@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 12:43 PM
>Subject: RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>
>
>> The feeble grasp of Marxism (in the 1920s for God's sake!)
>> >is bad enough, never mind the saccharine "love conquers all" resolution.
>Oh
>> >dear.
>>
>> Naaah - you're ommitting a vital fact Jonny! This is 1930s
>America,  happy
>> endings and easily-comprehensible plots were virtually compulsory. Think
>> studio system and remember political interfence/patronage  (hmmm...
>that
>> sounds very contemporary, 'Black Hawk Down' anyone?)
>>
>> Also, do you remember Frank Capra's "It's A Wonderful Life"? Remember the
>> part when he tries out being dead and suddenly, in an ostensibly quite
>> treakly, not to say twee film, we get 5 minutes of [EMAIL PROTECTED] near
>actualite:
>> Gangsters, prohibition, McCarthyism, prostitution and hints of more
>> international warefare ... then it all goes back to normal. Phew! Jimmy
>> Stewart decides against it and all's well that ends well ... But, for me,
>> the juxtuposition jarred so much that I wasn't really convinced that the
>> ending depicted what Capra was essentially trying to say. I got a similar
>> feeling in seeing Metropolis  - both visually and thematically. Anyway,
>this
>> all remains mho and of course you were entitled to despise it.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: Jonny McIntosh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 12:19 PM
>> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
>> >Subject: Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>> >
>> >
>> >And mine too:
>> >
>> >> My tuppeny worth
>> >
>> >I thought the film was almost awful. I'm glad they cut it down. God only
>> >knows why such a lumbering primary school plot originally required over
>two
>> >and half hours. The feeble grasp of Marxism (in the 1920s for God's
>sake!)
>> >is bad enough, never mind the saccharine "love conquers all" resolution.
>Oh
>> >dear. Visually, though, "Metropolis" entirely deserves it's reputation.
>The
>> >robot replica was pretty techno. Mills' music is ace, but I don't think
>it
>> >fitted all that well, though it worked best when it was more storming:
>> >"Robot Replica" and the destroy the machines scene. There were a lot of
>> >moments where I thought the music was ill timed - though it was cool to
>> >watch a film with the soundtrack as the object of interest, and
>I think I
>> >appreciate much more how much effort has to go into scores to be
>> >successful.
>> >Scoring for a silent movie and striking the balance between subtlety and
>> >expressing when there's no dialogue is probably even harder. I think
>Mills'
>> >Metropolis comes down more on the, err, "Scarface" side of that balance
>:)
>> >
>> >From where I was sat in cheap seats, the mosh pit that developed during
>the
>> >DJ set was pretty entertaining, though some charted accountant behind me
>> >started dancing as if he'd been restraining himself all evening at this
>> >point and whipped out one of those little light gadgets.
>> >
>> >Matt Herbert put on a great show. Though I still liked the idea of
>> >it better
>> >than the sound. I got one of those free cds which I've not listened to
>yet,
>> >but I might do as requested and pass it on :) Super Collider, by
>contrast,
>> >seemed pretty inept. I really liked the LP, but this show, IMO, was like
>> >sitting through bad performance art set to turgid trip hop (with a weak
>> >drummer to boot).
>> >
>> >Oh, and it was a tremendous view from the balcony out behind the stalls.
>> >
>> >
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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread alex.bond

Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers

 Start of message text 

Was it on this list that someone said that Mills was to change his DJ style
from now on?

I'm sure he'd said he was going to play different stuff, was there any of
that going on last night?
Was thinking on checking him in Manchester, but if he's going to go through
the old routine I'll keep my money in my pocket I think.

That 'do' last night sounded good, shame as always that these things can't
be done out of London as well, but never mind. Us un-cultured types up here
might not have understood the concept of shutting up for more than 15
minutes at a time..!




"Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 02/05/2002 13:45:24
To:Jonny McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org"
   <313@hyperreal.org>
cc:


Subject:RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall


>Erm, it's from 1920s Germany! I've never seen "It's A Wonderful Life",

Oh yeah, so it is ... apologies, don't mind me - but I still like the film,
the edit & JM's score for the same reasons. But whatever.

Anyway, what did you think of Mills' set/djing? ... I thought it was nice
to
have a little bird's eye view of what he was doing for a change! Man, he's
fast! - although I noticed a few hiccups, as for the content, hmmm ... I
thought he'd moved on  but of course, I bopped along all the same...

>-Original Message-
>From: Jonny McIntosh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 1:01 PM
>To: Odeluga, Ken
>Subject: Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>
>
>Erm, it's from 1920s Germany! I've never seen "It's A Wonderful
>Life", but I
>don't think there's any moment of comparable moment of lucidity in
>Metropolis in any case: no matter what Lang was trying to say, I can't
>discern any message of substance. Anyway, all in my most humble opinion :)
>
>J
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Jonny McIntosh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org"
><313@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 12:43 PM
>Subject: RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>
>
>> The feeble grasp of Marxism (in the 1920s for God's sake!)
>> >is bad enough, never mind the saccharine "love conquers all"
resolution.
>Oh
>> >dear.
>>
>> Naaah - you're ommitting a vital fact Jonny! This is 1930s
>America,  happy
>> endings and easily-comprehensible plots were virtually compulsory. Think
>> studio system and remember political interfence/patronage  (hmmm...
>that
>> sounds very contemporary, 'Black Hawk Down' anyone?)
>>
>> Also, do you remember Frank Capra's "It's A Wonderful Life"? Remember
the
>> part when he tries out being dead and suddenly, in an ostensibly quite
>> treakly, not to say twee film, we get 5 minutes of [EMAIL PROTECTED] near
>actualite:
>> Gangsters, prohibition, McCarthyism, prostitution and hints of more
>> international warefare ... then it all goes back to normal. Phew! Jimmy
>> Stewart decides against it and all's well that ends well ... But, for
me,
>> the juxtuposition jarred so much that I wasn't really convinced that the
>> ending depicted what Capra was essentially trying to say. I got a
similar
>> feeling in seeing Metropolis  - both visually and thematically. Anyway,
>this
>> all remains mho and of course you were entitled to despise it.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: Jonny McIntosh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 12:19 PM
>> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
>> >Subject: Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>> >
>> >
>> >And mine too:
>> >
>> >> My tuppeny worth
>> >
>> >I thought the film was almost awful. I'm glad they cut it down. God
only
>> >knows why such a lumbering primary school plot originally required over
>two
>> >and half hours. The feeble grasp of Marxism (in the 1920s for God's
>sake!)
>> >is bad enough, never mind the saccharine "love conquers all"
resolution.
>Oh
>> >dear. Visually, though, "Metropolis" entirely deserves it's reputation.
>The
>> >robot replica was pretty techno. Mills' music is ace, but I don't think
>it
>> >fitted all that well, though it worked best when it was more storming:
>> >"Robot Replica" and the destroy the machines scene. There were a lot of
>> >moments where I thought the music was ill timed - though it was cool to
>> >watch a film with the soundtrack as the object of interest, and
>I think I
>> >appreciate much more how much effort has to go into scores to be
>> >successful.
>> >Scoring for a silent movie and striking the balance between subtlety
and
>> >expressing when there's no dialogue is probably even harder. I think
>Mills'
>> >Metropolis comes down more on the, err, "Scarface" side of that balance
>:)
>> >
>> >From where I was sat in cheap seats, the mosh pit that developed during
>the
>> >DJ set was pretty entertaining, though some charted accountant behind
me
>> >started dancing as if he'd been restraining himself al

RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Neil Wallace

er and me...

:And mine too:
:
:> My tuppeny worth
:
:I thought the film was almost awful. I'm glad they cut it down. God only
:knows why such a lumbering primary school plot originally required over two
:and half hours.

i guess its due to the fact that this was pretty early in the history of
films and so there is quite a lot of 'dead air' so the film could be
considerably shortened b y simply editing it a lot tighter to be more like
modern films.

:The feeble grasp of Marxism (in the 1920s for God's sake!)
:is bad enough, never mind the saccharine "love conquers all" resolution.

i would agree the ending is a little naive but why should lang have to make
a marxist film simply because it is the 20s? while the film is about workers
it does not mean it has to be a marxist film (in fact the fact the workers
uprising was essentially a failure would suggest this was not langs intent.)


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[313] Radio 1 Peel Sessions

2002-05-02 Thread Toby Frith
One again for the UK 313'ers - John Peel has Jeff Mills in the studio on
22.5.02 for a Peel Session. The last one in 1998 had 30 tracks in 30 mins if
I remember.


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RE: [313] Radio 1 Peel Sessions

2002-05-02 Thread Ian Cheshire
get those minidisc out!! :0)

thanks Toby!!

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Subject: [313] Radio 1 Peel Sessions


One again for the UK 313'ers - John Peel has Jeff Mills in the studio on
22.5.02 for a Peel Session. The last one in 1998 had 30 tracks in 30 mins if
I remember.


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Re: [313] Radio 1 Peel Sessions

2002-05-02 Thread fab
will it broadcasted on the net?

fab.
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Subject: [313] Radio 1 Peel Sessions


> One again for the UK 313'ers - John Peel has Jeff Mills in the studio on
> 22.5.02 for a Peel Session. The last one in 1998 had 30 tracks in 30 mins
if
> I remember.
>
>
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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Odeluga, Ken
 and Jamie Liddell's giant skirt on a platform was amusing! ... the
material seemed weak on first listen to me too, however. But so many such
things have grown on me so I won't write it off yet ...

>-Original Message-
>From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 12:51 PM
>To: Jonny McIntosh; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
>Subject: Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>
>
>I'd agree with the Super_Collider comments. It looked like an A-Level Art
>performance. Everybody seems to be raving about their new LP though.
>
>- Original Message -
>From: Jonny McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org <313@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 12:19 PM
>Subject: Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>
>
>> And mine too:
>>
>> > My tuppeny worth
>>
>> I thought the film was almost awful. I'm glad they cut it down. God only
>> knows why such a lumbering primary school plot originally required over
>two
>> and half hours. The feeble grasp of Marxism (in the 1920s for
>God's sake!)
>> is bad enough, never mind the saccharine "love conquers all" resolution.
>Oh
>> dear. Visually, though, "Metropolis" entirely deserves it's reputation.
>The
>> robot replica was pretty techno. Mills' music is ace, but I
>don't think it
>> fitted all that well, though it worked best when it was more storming:
>> "Robot Replica" and the destroy the machines scene. There were a lot of
>> moments where I thought the music was ill timed - though it was cool to
>> watch a film with the soundtrack as the object of interest, and I think I
>> appreciate much more how much effort has to go into scores to be
>successful.
>> Scoring for a silent movie and striking the balance between subtlety and
>> expressing when there's no dialogue is probably even harder. I think
>Mills'
>> Metropolis comes down more on the, err, "Scarface" side of that
>balance :)
>>
>> From where I was sat in cheap seats, the mosh pit that developed during
>the
>> DJ set was pretty entertaining, though some charted accountant behind me
>> started dancing as if he'd been restraining himself all evening at this
>> point and whipped out one of those little light gadgets.
>>
>> Matt Herbert put on a great show. Though I still liked the idea of it
>better
>> than the sound. I got one of those free cds which I've not listened to
>yet,
>> but I might do as requested and pass it on :) Super Collider, by
>contrast,
>> seemed pretty inept. I really liked the LP, but this show, IMO, was like
>> sitting through bad performance art set to turgid trip hop (with a weak
>> drummer to boot).
>>
>> Oh, and it was a tremendous view from the balcony out behind the stalls.
>>
>>
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Re: [313] Norm Talley in Portland...

2002-05-02 Thread Gerald

Frank Zappa wrote:
> i really enjoy norm talley he was one of my
> favorite dj's that i saw on the c-pop stage last year
> at the DEMF. he handed out LOTS of cd's to
> everyone...i got 2 they are very very good...i hope he
> is playing somewhere this year around the DEMF...does
> anyone know if he is playing??? 

Just noticed the details re: Norm playing an afterparty.
Checkout the TechnoTourist afterparty page...
http://www.technotourist.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Parties&file=index

Can someone enlighten me on the other dj's playing this event (besides
the people from Toronto)?

Cheers!

G

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Re: [313] FW: track mode party with larry heard @ demf - Venue change!!!

2002-05-02 Thread Gerald
I heard there was suppose to be advance tickets on sale.

Is this true, and if so where can you get them?

G

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> Passin' the information along.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Thursday May 02, 2002 7:36 AM
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> Subject: track mode party with larry heard @ demf
> 
> Here are the updated details, notice that there has been a venue change.
> Please post to 313 list:
> 
> What:   Track Mode Recordings Party (trackmode.com)
> 
> When:   Sunday May 26, 2002, during DEMF, Detroit USA
> 
> Where:  CPop (not the DEMF stage, but venue
> located on Woodward St., not far from Hart Plaza
> https://www.cpop.com/gu/index.asp
> 
> Price:  about $20 USD at open, $30 USD at peak
> 
> Time:   Door open at 10pm
> 
> Lineup:
> 
> Live performances at open:
> 
> Hanna
> Kenny Dixon, Jr.
> Larry Heard (aka Mr. Fingers)
> 
> DJs after live peformances:
> 
> Brett Dancer (Track Mode, NYC)
> Robert Barrett (Music Is... Records, London)
> Theo Parrish (Sound Signature, Detroit)
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Re: [313] FW: track mode party with larry heard @ demf - Venue change!!!

2002-05-02 Thread Otto

At 09:52 2-5-02 -0400, you wrote:
>I heard there was suppose to be advance tickets on sale.
>
>Is this true, and if so where can you get them?

I asked Brett Dancer a few weeks ago, he said it was tickets at the door 
only. This was when it was still at the old venue though, I don't know if 
the venue change implies a ticket policy change? I presume not, since it's 
$20 at the start and $30 during peak, which is already a sort of 'presale' 
thing.


Otto


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Re: [313] Norm Talley in Portland...

2002-05-02 Thread Thomas Van Steen.
Some excellents mixes of Norm Talley on my Website :
http://www.pulsation.com/mixes/normtalley.php3

And soon ... new mixes :)

Thomas Van Steen.


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> One of detroit's finest in house music graced our
> presence here in portland oregonnorm talley came
> and gave us some detroit deepnessit was a good
> show (although the turntables had problems with
> skipping) i really enjoy norm talley he was one of my
> favorite dj's that i saw on the c-pop stage last year
> at the DEMF. he handed out LOTS of cd's to
> everyone...i got 2 they are very very good...i hope he
> is playing somewhere this year around the DEMF...does
> anyone know if he is playing??? but overall i had a
> good time and i even talked to a fellow 313er 
> 
> michael
> www.renegaderhythms.com
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RE: [313] FW: track mode party with larry heard @ demf - Venue ch ange!!!

2002-05-02 Thread Jones, George
I'll check with Chris Gray on that, he asked me to forward it to the list. 

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To: '313@hyperreal.org'
Cc: Jones, George
Subject: Re: [313] FW: track mode party with larry heard @ demf - Venue
change!!!

I heard there was suppose to be advance tickets on sale.

Is this true, and if so where can you get them?

G

"Jones, George" wrote:
> 
> Passin' the information along.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: chrisgraydeep
> Sent: Thursday May 02, 2002 7:36 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: track mode party with larry heard @ demf
> 
> Here are the updated details, notice that there has been a venue change.
> Please post to 313 list:
> 
> What:   Track Mode Recordings Party (trackmode.com)
> 
> When:   Sunday May 26, 2002, during DEMF, Detroit USA
> 
> Where:  CPop (not the DEMF stage, but venue
> located on Woodward St., not far from Hart Plaza
> https://www.cpop.com/gu/index.asp
> 
> Price:  about $20 USD at open, $30 USD at peak
> 
> Time:   Door open at 10pm
> 
> Lineup:
> 
> Live performances at open:
> 
> Hanna
> Kenny Dixon, Jr.
> Larry Heard (aka Mr. Fingers)
> 
> DJs after live peformances:
> 
> Brett Dancer (Track Mode, NYC)
> Robert Barrett (Music Is... Records, London)
> Theo Parrish (Sound Signature, Detroit)
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RE: [313] Radio 1 Peel Sessions

2002-05-02 Thread Odeluga, Ken
I don't mind implicating myself too - where's me CD-writer!

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>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 2:28 PM
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>
>
>get those minidisc out!! :0)
>
>thanks Toby!!
>
>-Original Message-
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>Sent: 02 May 2002 14:27
>To: 313
>Subject: [313] Radio 1 Peel Sessions
>
>
>One again for the UK 313'ers - John Peel has Jeff Mills in the studio on
>22.5.02 for a Peel Session. The last one in 1998 had 30 tracks in 
>30 mins if
>I remember.
>
>
>www.bleep43.com
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>
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RE: [313] Radio 1 Peel Sessions

2002-05-02 Thread Giles Dickerson
Can someone send a url for this?

- Giles

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> Subject:  RE: [313] Radio 1 Peel Sessions
> 
> I don't mind implicating myself too - where's me CD-writer!
> 
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Ian Cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 2:28 PM
> >To: 'Toby Frith'; 313
> >Subject: RE: [313] Radio 1 Peel Sessions
> >
> >
> >get those minidisc out!! :0)
> >
> >thanks Toby!!
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: 02 May 2002 14:27
> >To: 313
> >Subject: [313] Radio 1 Peel Sessions
> >
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> >One again for the UK 313'ers - John Peel has Jeff Mills in the studio on
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[313] Fw: Jeff Mills Peel Session

2002-05-02 Thread Tom Robbins/Magic Feet
John Peel and Radio One present
10.30pm, Wednesday May 22nd
Jeff Mills Exclusive Mix

On the 5th of May, 1998 at the BBC's Maida Vale studios in London, John Peel
hosted one of his legendary Peel Sessions. His guest on this occasion was
Jeff Mills - DJ, Producer, Conceptual Artist - one of electronic music's
most innovative and influential figures.

>From the mid 80s, Mills carved a musical path that quickly established him
as a true pioneer. From early experiences DJing on Detroit radio station
WJLB as The Wizard, his mesmerising deck skills brought inspiration to a
generation of musicians and performers who are themselves seen today as key
figures in the birth of techno music. Later, as a founding member of seminal
techno outfit Underground Resistance, his talent manifested itself through
musical production. When he and fellow UR founder, 'Mad' Mike Banks, parted
company, Mills' solo production career took flight and it was here that his
artistic agenda became clear. There aren't many artists who you can credit
as inventing the genre of minimal techno - a style so commonplace and copied
these days that it's difficult to imagine a time when there it wasn't the
loop-based norm.

Flashback to May 1998. After Mills rocks three decks before the small
gathered crowd, John Peel once again takes control of the airwaves and is
virtually speechless - struggling to find words to articulate not only the
sonic qualities of the last 45 minutes, but the visual spectacle not
witnessed by the listeners at home.

On Wednesday May 22nd, 2002, Jeff Mills returns to John Peel's show for his
second ever Peel Session. Playing before a small crowd of fans and the
listening public at home, this will be a very special occasion.

 Look out for Jeff's full-length CD, 'Actual' - released on June 3rd. This
album contains new and unreleased material - forthcoming as continuing parts
of the Axis-009 series, which will eventually be released as AX-009C and
AX-009D vinyl instalments.

Jeff mills plays the following UK dates:

May 24 Tribal Sessions @ Sankeys Soap - Manchester
May 25 Shine @ QBSU - Belfast
May 31 Pressure @ The Arches - Glasgow
June 1 Homelands @ Winchester Bowl - Winchester
June 2 Redbox - Dublin


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RE: [313] Metropolis DVD release...

2002-05-02 Thread LR2
I can verify that at least as of last summer, he intended to get the DVD
released.  He said so point-blank to the crowd at a Recordtime Roseville
appearance.

-Original Message-
From: Mark S. Krüx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 7:07 AM
To: Jongsma, K.J.; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: Re: [313] Metropolis DVD release...

> I doubt if there will be a DVD release of the Mills cut of Metropolis.
The
> Fritz Lang Erbe is really carefull about re-releases of Metropolis.
When
> Metropolis was showed in Amsterdam the Fritz Lang Erbe demanded that
it
> would be free for everybody.

When Grammenos and I saw Metropolis here in NYC last summer I seem to
recall
Jeff saying that he intended to do a DVD release,  and that he had
permission to do so.  Of course this all may very well have changed
since
last summer.  The plan is/was to place both his first edit of the film
(more
of a Mega-mix kind of thing) along with the final one and the sountrack
all
on the same disc.

As to the film,  I have been a fan of Lang's film ever since I first saw
it
in my pre-teen years.  When I first picked up the Metropolis "12 on
Axis,
while I kind of dug it,  I knew I wouldn't fully appreciate it until
seeing
Mills' edit of the film...and I was right too;-)  The NY screening
wasn't
quite as mad as the London one sounds,  the crowd here was definitely
skewed
towards the filmista set as opposed to a techno crowd.  We also got a
question/answer session with Jeff after the film,  which doesn't sound
as it
would have quite come off at the London screening.

Laters,

m*


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Re: [313] FW: track mode party with larry heard @ demf - Venue change!!!

2002-05-02 Thread Kent williams
On Thu, 2 May 2002, Otto wrote:
> At 09:52 2-5-02 -0400, you wrote:
>  >I heard there was suppose to be advance tickets on sale.
>  >
>  >Is this true, and if so where can you get them?
>
> I asked Brett Dancer a few weeks ago, he said it was tickets at the door
> only. This was when it was still at the old venue though, I don't know if
> the venue change implies a ticket policy change? I presume not, since it's
> $20 at the start and $30 during peak, which is already a sort of 'presale'
> thing.
>
All I know is that I'll be there when the doors open. As, I imagine, will
Otto!


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RE: [313] Radio 1 Peel Sessions

2002-05-02 Thread Neil Wallace

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/

then you can listen to whatever is on.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/peel.shtml

for peel stuff

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:> >22.5.02 for a Peel Session. The last one in 1998 had 30 tracks in
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RE: [313] Metropolis DVD release...

2002-05-02 Thread Ian Cheshire
excellent news¬!

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To: 'Mark S. Krüx'; 'Jongsma, K.J.'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org'
Subject: RE: [313] Metropolis DVD release...


I can verify that at least as of last summer, he intended to get the DVD
released.  He said so point-blank to the crowd at a Recordtime Roseville
appearance.

-Original Message-
From: Mark S. Krüx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 7:07 AM
To: Jongsma, K.J.; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: Re: [313] Metropolis DVD release...

> I doubt if there will be a DVD release of the Mills cut of Metropolis.
The
> Fritz Lang Erbe is really carefull about re-releases of Metropolis.
When
> Metropolis was showed in Amsterdam the Fritz Lang Erbe demanded that
it
> would be free for everybody.

When Grammenos and I saw Metropolis here in NYC last summer I seem to
recall
Jeff saying that he intended to do a DVD release,  and that he had
permission to do so.  Of course this all may very well have changed
since
last summer.  The plan is/was to place both his first edit of the film
(more
of a Mega-mix kind of thing) along with the final one and the sountrack
all
on the same disc.

As to the film,  I have been a fan of Lang's film ever since I first saw
it
in my pre-teen years.  When I first picked up the Metropolis "12 on
Axis,
while I kind of dug it,  I knew I wouldn't fully appreciate it until
seeing
Mills' edit of the film...and I was right too;-)  The NY screening
wasn't
quite as mad as the London one sounds,  the crowd here was definitely
skewed
towards the filmista set as opposed to a techno crowd.  We also got a
question/answer session with Jeff after the film,  which doesn't sound
as it
would have quite come off at the London screening.

Laters,

m*


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[313] What ever happened to AxisWear ?

2002-05-02 Thread Langsman, Marc

I remember reading that Jeff was gonna release his own AxisWear clothing
line ages ago - does anyone know if anything ever came of this ? 

*crazy-guy* :)

Marc


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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Kent williams
> :I thought the film was almost awful. I'm glad they cut it down. God only
> :knows why such a lumbering primary school plot originally required over two
> :and half hours.
>
I dunno, I've seen it 3 or 4 times over the years. It's as much a fairy
tale as Snow White; it's as far from naturalistic as one can get.
You can see that as corny, or you can see it as the
armature that Lang hangs his amazing visual ideas on.  The editing style
and visual vocabulary of silent movies is completely different from what
came after; you need to get your rhythm in sync with the odd pacing to
really enjoy it.

I think Mills' fascination with Metropolis came out of it's futurism;
Mills own preoccupation with futurism meshes nicely with it...

And this is verging even MORE off topic, but most movies from the 20s
and 30s seem really strangely edited to modern ideas.  Last Xmas I got
sucked into watching 'It's a Wonderful Life' and it dawned on me that
Frank Capra was one of the very first directors to find a really fluid,
brisk, editing style.  Even Charlie Chaplin's silent features seem alternately
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RE: [313] FW: track mode party with larry heard @ demf - Venue ch ange!!!

2002-05-02 Thread Jones, George
Just re-confirmed with Chris that there will NOT be any pre-sale tickets for
this event. 

Oh well... Such is life. 

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Subject: Re: [313] FW: track mode party with larry heard @ demf - Venue
change!!!

I heard there was suppose to be advance tickets on sale.

Is this true, and if so where can you get them?

G

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> 
> Passin' the information along.
> 
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> Here are the updated details, notice that there has been a venue change.
> Please post to 313 list:
> 
> What:   Track Mode Recordings Party (trackmode.com)
> 
> When:   Sunday May 26, 2002, during DEMF, Detroit USA
> 
> Where:  CPop (not the DEMF stage, but venue
> located on Woodward St., not far from Hart Plaza
> https://www.cpop.com/gu/index.asp
> 
> Price:  about $20 USD at open, $30 USD at peak
> 
> Time:   Door open at 10pm
> 
> Lineup:
> 
> Live performances at open:
> 
> Hanna
> Kenny Dixon, Jr.
> Larry Heard (aka Mr. Fingers)
> 
> DJs after live peformances:
> 
> Brett Dancer (Track Mode, NYC)
> Robert Barrett (Music Is... Records, London)
> Theo Parrish (Sound Signature, Detroit)
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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Matthew MacQueen
> who the hell are all these people? since when has london had hordes of beer
> swilling mills fans.?

Hallo... Maybe you guys have never met Rob Webb ?!?;)

Peace,
Matt MacQueen

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RE: [313] Radio 1 Peel Sessions

2002-05-02 Thread Langsman, Marc

Broadband + BBC Webcast + Cooledit + CDRW = SoRtEd :D

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>>get those minidisc out!! :0)
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>>thanks Toby!!
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>>One again for the UK 313'ers - John Peel has Jeff Mills in 
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>>22.5.02 for a Peel Session. The last one in 1998 had 30 tracks in 
>>30 mins if
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[313] You can all worship me now...

2002-05-02 Thread Tosh Cooey
...because I'm the first on this list to mention the mix by 2 Many DJ's

Still doubting why I'm to be worshipped?
http://www.2manydjs.org/

Oh yeah, check out that tracklist.

Still doubting?  Then bugger-off you ignoramous.

Tosh
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RE: [313] You can all worship me now...

2002-05-02 Thread Neil Wallace

check out the track by track page - notice anything strange about the sleeve
for french kiss? :p

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RE: [313] You can all worship me now...

2002-05-02 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
  
> check out the track by track page - notice anything strange 
> about the sleeve
> for french kiss? :p

LOL!

What about the notes on Adult's Hand to Phone:

2 many dj's: "we couldn't use the carl craig remix for some reason, so we
re-edited the whole song in a way that resembled his mix"
2 many clearances: "first there was a problem because we accidentally asked
for a 'carl cox-mix', then it seemed that carl craig didn't want anything to
do with DJ-compilation that also included dolly parton" 

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Re: [313] You can all worship me now...

2002-05-02 Thread tom churchill
> http://www.2manydjs.org/
> 
> Oh yeah, check out that tracklist.

Heh - I like this bit (about licensing Adult's 'Hand to Phone'):

> 2 many dj's: "we couldn't use the carl craig remix for some reason, so we
> re-edited the whole song in a way that resembled his mix"
>
> 2 many clearances: "first there was a problem because we accidentally asked
> for a 'carl cox-mix', then it seemed that carl craig didn't want anything to
> do with DJ-compilation that also included dolly parton"

Big up C2 :)

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RE: [313] Norm Talley in Portland...

2002-05-02 Thread Grammenos, Peter
Nice one from Fabrice Lig on there as well. Second time listening to it
today.. Thanks for the link!

-Pete

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Some excellents mixes of Norm Talley on my Website :
http://www.pulsation.com/mixes/normtalley.php3

And soon ... new mixes :)

Thomas Van Steen.


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> One of detroit's finest in house music graced our
> presence here in portland oregonnorm talley came
> and gave us some detroit deepnessit was a good
> show (although the turntables had problems with
> skipping) i really enjoy norm talley he was one of my
> favorite dj's that i saw on the c-pop stage last year
> at the DEMF. he handed out LOTS of cd's to
> everyone...i got 2 they are very very good...i hope he
> is playing somewhere this year around the DEMF...does
> anyone know if he is playing??? but overall i had a
> good time and i even talked to a fellow 313er 
> 
> michael
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[313] Carl Craig on Stevie Wonder's Innervisions

2002-05-02 Thread Matthew MacQueen
http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=3212

"It's a pretty record. The ideas are stated wonderfully, but it sonically 
captures the landscape of the city. Listen to Innervisions driving down Gratiot 
or Mack and it's an instant urban sound track."


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[313] Underground Committee Mixes Back Up...

2002-05-02 Thread Javier Drada
Underground Committee has been revamped and the mixes by the following DJ's 
are now available again in the archives section.


Larry Heard, Ray Dilla, Jools Butterfield (Nuphonic), Bernard Badie, Mike 
Clark (Planet E), Jaime Delgado, Javier Drada, Jonny McIntosh, Walter Merlin 
Jones , The Black FU, Thomas Barnett (Visillusion) and DJ K-1 (Puzzle Box)


Also available on the main page, Deep House Session:

Aqua Bassino - Baby C'mon - F-Communications
Maurizio - Domina [Maurizio Mix] - Basic Channel
Bobby D'Ambrosio - Special - Definity Records
Swag - Te Puedo Liberar - White Label
Shaboom - Sweet Sensation [Mick's Discotizer Mix] - Warner(UK)
Jasper Street Company - Smile - Basement Boys
Speedbump - Deeper [Club Edit] - BMG(Sweden)
Andy Caldwell - I Can't Wait [Original Flavor Mix] - OM Records
Wam Kidz - In Love Again - Earth Records
Fabrice Lig presents Mauler - PGM 300 - Keynote Records
Gemini - Where You Belong - Cyclo Records
The Rurals - Window Pain - Peng
JT Donaldson - An Open Mic - Cyclo Records
Urban Soul - Show Me [Def Club Mix] - King Street Sounds
Phunkie Souls - The Music [Richard F. Defected Re-Edit] - Strictly Rhythm
PQM feat. Cica - The Flying Song [PQM's Amped Up Mix] - Yoshitoshi

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[313] PAN records

2002-05-02 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Anyone have a discog for them? - nice deep house stuff sort of like Glasgow
Underground.

MEK


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RE: [313] PAN records

2002-05-02 Thread SayVegin
> Anyone have a discog for them? - nice deep house stuff sort of 
> like Glasgow
> Underground.

This is the only place I know of: http://www.discogs.com/label/PAN

PAN has released some awesome stuff, but haven't seen anything new
in a while. Anyone know what's up?

008 - 010 - 012 are my favorites, soulfull offbeat deep-house

Bart
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Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Forrest L Norvell
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 12:43:22PM +0100, Odeluga, Ken wrote:
> The feeble grasp of Marxism (in the 1920s for God's sake!)
> >is bad enough, never mind the saccharine "love conquers all" resolution. Oh
> >dear.
> 
> Naaah - you're ommitting a vital fact Jonny! This is 1930s America,  happy
> endings and easily-comprehensible plots were virtually compulsory. Think
> studio system and remember political interfence/patronage  (hmmm... that
> sounds very contemporary, 'Black Hawk Down' anyone?)

Well, actually...

When _Metropolis_ was made, Lang was still a part of the _German_
studio system, and if you've seen any of his other Weimar-era movies
(_M_, _Dr Mabuse_, _Frau im Mond_), you know that there's more
happening in his movies than is immediately apparent. In _Metropolis_,
for instance, isn't it striking the way that the supposedly cool,
rational leaders of the City of Science that is the Metropolis rely so
heavily upon the occultist Rottwang? And aren't the workers
_purposefully_ portrayed as easily-duped sheep? It seems to me that
the ending is a lot more ambiguous than it portrays itself. The
Expressionists loved to use broad strokes to hide all sorts of
disturbing stuff under the surface. It's hard to see some of the
themes in edited versions -- I saw a "full" cut of _Metropolis_ once,
a long time ago, and was struck by how much more the movie is about
than its surface story. It's a different rhythm, sure, but there's a
lot to reward your time if you can adapt to it. Something that can be
said about Mills' music as well.

I think it's great that he chose a movie that so perfectly captures
the ambiguities implicit in Detroit's history, as well as techno
itself, for his first score project. I really really want to see it
myself.

F

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[313] dollis hill radio

2002-05-02 Thread Neontsetse
incl. r-solution ...

http://www.nuwaveradio.co.uk/

nu-era eclectic 80ies show comin up this friday




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[313] Shameless plug

2002-05-02 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

Hi,

Just a small reminder for everyone who lives in Holland:

This Saturday my favorite techno act Duplex will give their first 
live appearance at the Burgerweeshuis in Deventer (Holland).


Rebelbass (Burgerweeshuis, Deventer)
- Duplex (DJ + Live!) Clone/Keynote
- The Moderator (Live) Keynote/TechnoTourist/Eevolute
- Lady Aida (DJ)

Booty and acid by:
- DJ Merijn
- DJ Draft

Be early, duplex will be opening the night with a DJ set, followed by 
their live set. I'll be playing after them (That's the plug part :)) 
Expect a full report on TechoTourist.org


Need more info?
http://www.rebelbass.com
http://www.burgerweeshuis.nl

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[313] FW: DJ Marshall Jefferson Gets Retro at Joystick Junkies on 9th May

2002-05-02 Thread Tim Maughan

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Subject: DJ Marshall Jefferson Gets Retro at Joystick Junkies on 9th May


That's right pop fans, Joystick Junkies is pleased to announce that
Chicago's own godfather of house music Mr. Marshall Jefferson will be
spinning tunes at the very special Joystick Junkies party next Thursday 9th
May, SAK Bar, Greek Street, London. W1

Marshall, a self proclaimed god of RTS and console games is one of the
original innovators in Chicago house, Marshall Jefferson had a hand in
several of the music's most influential early tracks. As a solo act, he
recorded 1986's "Move Your Body" -- sub-titled and unanimously acclaimed
"The House Music Anthem." Jefferson also helped record Phuture's "Acid
Tracks," the first and best acid-house single.

The night will also feature a mini fashion show showing off some of the the
new Joystick Junkies summer colours, they'll be some very special new arcade
machines from the lovely Andrew MacDougall, some seriously dangerous vodka
jello shots from the girls at OPM Recruitment www.opmjobs.com and of course
all your usual Joystick Junkies regulars to make the party rock.

Need another excuse to play?

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[EMAIL PROTECTED], free entry to members or £5 on the door after
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[313] Guest list; Juxtapose-Sundays w/ Mike Grant & Mike Clark

2002-05-02 Thread ani
The Juxtapose Team is compiling a guest list for anyone and everyone to come
experience a special tag with Mike Grant (moods & grooves) and Mike Clark
(beatdownsounds.net) this Sunday at Marilyn's (497 Monroe, detroit).

10-2
21+


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[313] hawtin in may

2002-05-02 Thread :P
I talked to rich a couple month back and he said he was playing in detroit
in may, but he was unsure of the details.  does anyone know?

I'm hoping for a non-demf party, but i would have thought I would hear
something about ti by now.  I got some info about a  party supposedly to
take place at the beginning of this month, but I cant remember any details.

-Joe

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[313] hawtin in may

2002-05-02 Thread Pryor, Ryan N
¬"" I talked to rich a couple month back and he said he was 
playing in Detroit in May, but he was unsure of the details.  
does anyone know? I'm hoping for a 'non-demf' party, but i would 
have thought I would hear something about it by now. I got some 
info about a party supposedly to take place at the beginning of 
this month, but I cant remember any details. ""¬



I'm 99% sure he was referring to 
a DEMF weekend party @ CITY CLUB.



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Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Phonopsia
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Subject: RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall


> And this is verging even MORE off topic, but most movies from the 20s
> and 30s seem really strangely edited to modern ideas.  Last Xmas I got
> sucked into watching 'It's a Wonderful Life' and it dawned on me that
> Frank Capra was one of the very first directors to find a really fluid,
> brisk, editing style.  Even Charlie Chaplin's silent features seem
alternately
> slow and choppy by comparison

Getting even more off-topic, I'm fairly certain that the filimic ideas born
in Russia following D.W. Griffith weren't widely available/accepted by the
rest of the world at that point, especially as America and Germany were very
much doing their own things. The editing advancements of Lev Kuloshov and
Sergei Eisenstein from the teens and twenties were the really revolutionary
moments in the history of editing, and I'm fairly certain it took until at
least the '30s for the rest of the world to catch up (possibly to even see
these movies for the first time???), especially as the advent of sound and
then color overshadowed their accomplishments. Forgive if any details are
wrong - I haven't studied this stuff in a while...

One of my film professors used to rant about how we don't really know what
film editing could've become if it weren't for sound. So much
experimentation with pacing was going on back then. I had to sit through a
completely silent version of Potempkin (ie, no accompanying soundtrack at
all). It was amazing how difficult it was to focus despite the innovative
editing. *Any* music would have helped. :) Anything pre-1930 really takes
some effort to get into, especially when we're bombarded with MTV-style
editing all the time now. Think of it like trying to listen to someone's
early works as they just start to fiddle with techno. :)

Tristan
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Re: [313] FW: track mode party with larry heard @ demf - Venue change!!!

2002-05-02 Thread Gerald
Kent williams wrote:

> All I know is that I'll be there when the doors open. As, I imagine, will
> Otto!

Can you guys save me a spot in the lineup? ;)

G

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