Re: (313) Oscar Mulero as a DJ

[g]

unfortunately never seen him but his mix cd is damn good
as are his productions

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To: 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 3:56 PM
Subject: (313) Oscar Mulero as a DJ


 Anyone here seen him spin?  Opinions?
 I am just now listening to an mp3 set I downloaded and it sounds like he
can
 rock 3 decks proper...

 /Dave

(313) Derrick May Track ID

[:: evilgenetix ::]

Hi there,

Could any tell me the name of a track on Derrick May's Live at Fuse set Part 
1 70:00-72:20?


many thanks,
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(313) Kraftwerk - Sydney short Review

[Dave Barnett]

a good review of the paris show describes preety much the sydney show 
(http://kraftwerk.technopop.com.br/life_reviews.php)

. It was great to see the tracks and the guys (even though they barely 
acknowledged
the crowd - no suprises there ;-)

 The enmore theatre was packed.  It was very cool to hear EXPO 2000 - with the
detroit is..so electric - germany is..so electric.. samples. It would be
cool to see at the melbourne show some breaking/bboy action to the numbers/tour
de france tracks!.

it wasn't clear from whre i was sitting how much of the show was actually 
live..from
what i could see Ralf (?) was using the microphone ocasionaly..but sound was
coming out even when he wasn't talking into the microphone.

now if only we can get a UR/Kraftwerk australian tour happening...

any adelaide people heading over to the melbourne show next wednesday?
cheers,
dave

(313) A Guy Called Gerald techno tracks

[Michael . Elliot-Knight]

 A Guy Called Gerald has a very nice melodic techno track called Anxiety
posted on mp3.com

http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/51/a_guy_called_gerald.html

I was wondering - from his discog (besides Voodoo Ray and Automanikk) which
of his releases are similar to this style? I'm looking for his non-drum 
bass tracks. I'm interested in his remix work too

MEK

Re: (313) DEMF hotels / Oscar Mulero as a DJ

[Greg Earle]

I stayed at the Ren Center Marriott in 2001.  I've found it's very handy
to be easy walking distance from the event, whatever it is (DEMF, computer
conference, whatnot).

Last year I stayed with my friends (Electro duo VolSoc) in a pimpin' room
at the Atheneum.  A little bit further away than the Ren Center, slightly
nicer room.  Downsides: Very noisy, and somehow the staff discovered our
little (*cough*) 4:20 setup, and threatened to throw us out.  Cooler heads
prevailed, and we remained.  I don't think I'd go back there this year,
though, after that.

---

I've seen Oscar Mulero do a tag-team 2x4 set with my friend Angel Molina
(where are you, Juanjo?) at Sonar.  Very Mills-ian set.  I dug it.
They killed it.

- Greg

Re: (313) DEMF hotels / Oscar Mulero as a DJ

[Kookie]

I'm from Detroit so I haven't gotten a hotel.  But I've heard bad things
about the Ren Cen as its filled with frat boys.  Right across the street
is a Marriot Courtyard, which might be cheaper and is right across the
street from Hart Plaza.  If you are going to have access to a car, I would
recommend staying in Warren.  There are some nice hotels there for cheap on
the weekends espcially.  Its a 15 minute drive downtown and if you park in
the underground structure parking is only like 2 bucks a day.  Plus pretty
much everyone is going to be going to some afterparties, so your going to
have to drive anyways.  And I doubt that Hawtin will be using the City Club
this year, so don't stay in the Ramada for that reason.
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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: (313) DEMF hotels / Oscar Mulero as a DJ


 I stayed at the Ren Center Marriott in 2001.  I've found it's very handy
 to be easy walking distance from the event, whatever it is (DEMF, computer
 conference, whatnot).

 Last year I stayed with my friends (Electro duo VolSoc) in a pimpin' room
 at the Atheneum.  A little bit further away than the Ren Center, slightly
 nicer room.  Downsides: Very noisy, and somehow the staff discovered our
 little (*cough*) 4:20 setup, and threatened to throw us out.  Cooler heads
 prevailed, and we remained.  I don't think I'd go back there this year,
 though, after that.

 ---

 I've seen Oscar Mulero do a tag-team 2x4 set with my friend Angel Molina
 (where are you, Juanjo?) at Sonar.  Very Mills-ian set.  I dug it.
 They killed it.

 - Greg

Re: (313) DEMF hotels / Oscar Mulero as a DJ

[Cyclone Wehner]

The Ren Center is very nice and the staff are lovely, it's just quite
expensive and the lifts can play up!!!. I've stayed in places like Sofitel
in other cities which is five-star and paid less per night.
But you can get morning coffee downstairs and there's a radio shack, which
is useful.
There's another place near KMS that is good too, starts with R...


     I'm from Detroit so I haven't gotten a hotel. But I've heard bad things
 about the Ren Cen as its filled with frat boys. Right across the street
 is a Marriot Courtyard, which might be cheaper and is right across the
 street from Hart Plaza. If you are going to have access to a car, I would
 recommend staying in Warren. There are some nice hotels there for cheap on
 the weekends espcially. Its a 15 minute drive downtown and if you park in
 the underground structure parking is only like 2 bucks a day. Plus pretty
 much everyone is going to be going to some afterparties, so your going to
 have to drive anyways. And I doubt that Hawtin will be using the City Club
 this year, so don't stay in the Ramada for that reason.

Re: (313) DEMF hotels / Oscar Mulero as a DJ

[Cyclone Wehner]

Last year you had to walk miles in the Ren Cen though with this detour as
they were reconstructing, so it was further to walk. I kept getting lost in
that MF. It's like a maze!

 From:  Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: (313) DEMF hotels / Oscar Mulero as a DJ
 Date:  24/01/2003 14:59:25
 To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    

     I stayed at the Ren Center Marriott in 2001. I've found it's very handy
 to be easy walking distance from the event, whatever it is (DEMF, computer
 conference, whatnot).

 Last year I stayed with my friends (Electro duo VolSoc) in a pimpin' room
 at the Atheneum. A little bit further away than the Ren Center, slightly
 nicer room. Downsides: Very noisy, and somehow the staff discovered our
 little (*cough*) 4:20 setup, and threatened to throw us out. Cooler heads
 prevailed, and we remained. I don't think I'd go back there this year,
 though, after that.

Re: (313) Derrick May Track ID

[Maarten Baute]

 Could any tell me the name of a track on Derrick May's Live at Fuse set
Part
 1 70:00-72:20?

I don´t have the mix with me.. but I am gonna tell you the last 3 records..
it should be one of them.

Chaser - Tall Stories [ soma 080 ]
Ruffneck feat. Yavahn - All That Yazz [ masters at work 013 ]
Adonis - No Way Back [ trax ]


Cheers,
Maarten

Re: (313) Derrick May Track ID

[Maarten Baute]

 Ruffneck feat. Yavahn - All That Yazz [ masters at work 013 ]

Yazz must be Jazz of course..

it is very early in the morning here..

Cheers,
Maarten

Re: (313) Derrick May Track ID

[Alex Bates]

  Could any tell me the name of a track on Derrick May's Live at Fuse set
 Part
  1 70:00-72:20?

 I don´t have the mix with me.. but I am gonna tell you the last 3
records..
 it should be one of them.

 Chaser - Tall Stories [ soma 080 ]
 Ruffneck feat. Yavahn - All That Yazz [ masters at work 013 ]
 Adonis - No Way Back [ trax ]


hmm. soma, MAW, trax... im assuming this is a house mix

might try and get a hold of it then...

ab

Re: (313) Kraftwerk - Sydney short Review

[Toby Frith]

jeez,

I saw them twice in Paris last year, and I'm *still* jealous. Did they play
Airwaves?




- Original Message -
From: Dave Barnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:00 AM
Subject: (313) Kraftwerk - Sydney short Review


 a good review of the paris show describes preety much the sydney show
(http://kraftwerk.technopop.com.br/life_reviews.php)

 . It was great to see the tracks and the guys (even though they barely
acknowledged
 the crowd - no suprises there ;-)

  The enmore theatre was packed.  It was very cool to hear EXPO 2000 - with
the
 detroit is..so electric - germany is..so electric.. samples. It would
be
 cool to see at the melbourne show some breaking/bboy action to the
numbers/tour
 de france tracks!.

 it wasn't clear from whre i was sitting how much of the show was actually
live..from
 what i could see Ralf (?) was using the microphone ocasionaly..but sound
was
 coming out even when he wasn't talking into the microphone.

 now if only we can get a UR/Kraftwerk australian tour happening...

 any adelaide people heading over to the melbourne show next wednesday?
 cheers,
 dave

(313) re: [313] upcoming london events

[seth redmond]

I seem to remember Tom talking about Octave One playing at Fabric next week. 
Also there's Ralph Lawson and Paul Woolford (well worth seeing) playing at 
the end on the eighth of feb, and Derrick Carter about a week later. Oh and 
Sneak's on tonight...


Seems very house oriented for the next few weeks really.



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 anything worthwhile you know of the the next 4 months or so, please 
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RE: (313) re: [313] upcoming london events

[Robert Taylor]

Mills is playing Lost on 1st March
Michael Mayer from Kompakt is playing Fabric on March 22nd
Rolando is playing Base (with Brendan Nelson's Wide posse) on Jan 31st.
There's sure to be more coming up though.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: (313) re: [313] upcoming london events


I seem to remember Tom talking about Octave One playing at Fabric next week.

Also there's Ralph Lawson and Paul Woolford (well worth seeing) playing at 
the end on the eighth of feb, and Derrick Carter about a week later. Oh and 
Sneak's on tonight...

Seems very house oriented for the next few weeks really.


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  anything worthwhile you know of the the next 4 months or so, please 
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Re: (313) NWAQ album on Peacefrog

[marsel]

it will be released some time, when time is ready

next week is the second Newworldaquarium 12 coming on Peacefrog, called 
Heavy Metal - together with the Newworldaquarium 12 release on Planet E a 
week later





At 23-1-2003 +0100 18:44, you wrote:

Does anyone know if and when it will be released?
Or has it already been released and i have3 just woken up?

thanks
fab.



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RE: (313) NWAQ album on Peacefrog

[Jongsma, K.J.]

The Planet E. NWAQ will be a re-relase from the delsin record and the
peacefrog one will be a new record? 

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RE: (313) NWAQ album on Peacefrog

[marsel]

yep - all correct

the a side of the planet is, 13dsr side a, b side is 10dsr side b

peacefrog 12 are three new tracks

futher on a rick wade remix of tresspassers will come on the NWAQ label

but before aroy dee's kiss/the planets (nwaq03) will see daylight next month




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(313) OT- old Prince tune request

[Recoil]

can someone link me with real audio or mp3 of this tune?

Sheila E and Prince - Love Bizarre

peace

Liam

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every Tuesday 7-9 pm est, Toronto - http://www.pirate-radio.co.uk

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Re: (313) re: [313] upcoming london events

[alex . bond]

or you could try the North West for some REAL culture :  ) £20/£30 on the
train from London, lots of mad record shops in obscure places  a ruck of
pikeys...

All in Feb

Theo Parrish, Manchester. Mark Broom/Mike Grant - Liverpool, Mills -
Manchester
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[- BT -]

Or you could be even more adventurous and head to Glasgow. 
Best weekend would probobly be the following
Friday 7th Feb - Mr De and the Electrofunk Band
Sat 8th Feb - Mike Grant
Cheers
BT

 
or you could try the North West for some REAL culture : ) £20/£30 on the 
train from London, lots of mad record shops in obscure places  a ruck of 
pikeys... 
 
All in Feb 
 
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deffo true to say that a trip up there (Glasgow) is a must if you're
heading to these shores, good record shops, great clubs
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(313) Ian Cheshire on Groovetech

[Toby Frith]

313's Ian Cheshire aka Kube72, will be on Groovetech London between 4 - 6
today.

Re: (313) A Guy Called Gerald techno tracks

[P dircon]

A great track..  Heavily influenced no doubt by  kao-tic harmony...

I got a white label called   a gur called gerald..  Trip city  which is
pretty damn fine.

Worth checking if u can find it...

 A Guy Called Gerald has a very nice melodic techno track called Anxiety
 posted on mp3.com
 
 http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/51/a_guy_called_gerald.html
 
 I was wondering - from his discog (besides Voodoo Ray and Automanikk) which
 of his releases are similar to this style? I'm looking for his non-drum 
 bass tracks. I'm interested in his remix work too
 
 MEK
 
 
 

Re: (313) A Guy Called Gerald techno tracks

[Wojtek Kawalek]

This track is also available on the Deepest Shade of Techno double cd 
compilation on SSR/ Reinforced records, compiled by the 4hero crew.  
It's on the the second volume (cd)  both of which (someone please 
correct me if I'm wrong) were also available on vinyl (?) around '96.



On Thursday, Jan 23, 2003, at 19:01 US/Pacific, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 A Guy Called Gerald has a very nice melodic techno track called 
Anxiety

posted on mp3.com

http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/51/a_guy_called_gerald.html

I was wondering - from his discog (besides Voodoo Ray and Automanikk) 
which
of his releases are similar to this style? I'm looking for his 
non-drum 

bass tracks. I'm interested in his remix work too

MEK

Re: (313) upcoming london events

[Anya Stang]

If you want to make a trip to Leeds,
Robert Hood (semi-live!)  Jay Denham are
@The Orbit on 15 Feb.
I might make the journey for this actually. : )

Websites to check are (in no particular order):
http://www.sonomu.net (subscribe to David Cotner's Actions
and Susanna Glaser's Filter for events)
http://www.sorted.org/london/ (Dale's London Techno Events)
http://www.11-hour.com/events/index.asp (Events page on
Matt Chester's 11th hour Technology website)
http://www.overloadmedia.co.uk/ (go to Community - Club Nights)

Websites of a few clubs/clubnights in London:
http://www.plasticpeople.co.uk
http://www.the-end.co.uk
http://www.93feeteast.co.uk
http://www.retroverts.com
http://www.kai-zen.co.uk
and errrm... http://www.fabric-london.co.uk (a club I tend
to avoid. If I wanna get groped on the dancefloor, I'll go
to the DogStar on a Saturday night - they do put on some
good stuff at the Doggie during the week though, so check
http://www.luminouslemon.net/mysharedaccounts/DogStar/enter.html )
New bar in Brixton that's worth checking out for events also:
http://www.plan-brixton.co.uk/

System @Propaganda (Thursdays; residents: Mark Broom, Terry
Mitchell, Marco Carola) - no site, email
[EMAIL PROTECTED] for info

Gizza shout if you want to hook up with some UK/London 313ers
while you're here. : )
Have fun,

Anya

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 Date: Thu 23/Jan/2003 22:54 GMT
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) upcoming london events
 
 whats going on in london?
 
 anything worthwhile you know of the the next 4 months or so, please email me
 or the list.
 
 thank you in advance,
 
 -Joe

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(313) Coffee Shop Mike?

[Tom Churchill]

Does anyone know anything more about this guy? His track 'Musik' kicks off
Carl Craig's 'Workout' double mix CD on React, and I've noticed a few of his
other released on Digital Love which sound pretty good.

I'm assuming from the moniker that he's Dutch - does he record under any
other names or have a website? Google doesn't seem to yield very much other
than his entry on Discogs.com...


Cheers,

Tom

Re: (313) F Communications

[Anya Stang]

Only commenting, I'm a real bad reviewer...
Had this for a month or so now, I like it. It's not
necessarily a must-have but it makes for very good home
listening, and it's great for the commute to work.
Cheers,

Anya

 From: Benjamin Cuthbert (Merch) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu 23/Jan/2003 17:38 GMT
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) F Communications
 
 I got the joke
 
 Question, to get back on track. Has anybody heard the new Jori 
 Hulkkonen/Laurent Garnier double-mix cd Classic and Rare on 
F Communications? Reviews? Comments? From the looks of the tracklist, it sounds 
like it will be pretty cool.
 
 Ben

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(313) Deepest Shade of Techno (was: Re: 313) A Guy Called Gerald techno tracks)

[Anya Stang]

I've been after this on vinyl for years!! Did it actually
come out in 1996, same as the cd? Doesn't say on the SSR
website. (Pretty sure this was covered before on here but
I forget. Sorry.)
Anyone know where to find a copy, drop me a line please.
(I won't pay ridiculous money on eBay though...)
Ta,

Anya : )
 
 From: Wojtek Kawalek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri 24/Jan/2003 11:54 GMT
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
  313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) A Guy Called Gerald techno tracks
 
 This track is also available on the Deepest Shade of Techno double cd 
 compilation on SSR/ Reinforced records, compiled by the 4hero crew.  
 It's on the the second volume (cd)  both of which (someone please 
 correct me if I'm wrong) were also available on vinyl (?) around '96.

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RE: (313) Deepest Shade of Techno (was: Re: 313) A Guy Called Ger ald techno tracks)

[Martin Aedla]

I don't know about vinyl release on SSR, but vinyl release of Deepest shade
of techno II came out in 1996 on Reflective which is Reinforced sublabel.

martin

 -Original Message-
 From: Anya Stang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 4:10 PM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) Deepest Shade of Techno (was: Re: 313) A Guy Called
 Gerald techno tracks)
 
 
 I've been after this on vinyl for years!! Did it actually
 come out in 1996, same as the cd? Doesn't say on the SSR
 website. (Pretty sure this was covered before on here but
 I forget. Sorry.)
 Anyone know where to find a copy, drop me a line please.
 (I won't pay ridiculous money on eBay though...)
 Ta,
 
 Anya : )
  
  From: Wojtek Kawalek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Fri 24/Jan/2003 11:54 GMT
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
   313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: Re: (313) A Guy Called Gerald techno tracks
  
  This track is also available on the Deepest Shade of 
 Techno double cd 
  compilation on SSR/ Reinforced records, compiled by the 
 4hero crew.  
  It's on the the second volume (cd)  both of which (someone please 
  correct me if I'm wrong) were also available on vinyl (?) 
 around '96.
 
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(313) Track id - electrotrack

[Remco . Doorewaard]

Hi, can someone id this track for me, has been played by dj Hell:


it has a robot-voice, saying:


'We came out of the future,


from behind the moon


it was year 2020


I was still a boy


I had a robot friend


We played robot games


until one day


..'


Thanks, Remco

(313) Track Id 2

[Remco . Doorewaard]

A male voice singing (slightly altered):


'If you suffered enough


I can understand what you're thinking of


I can see the pain that you're frightened of


.'


Maybe a techno remix, voice reminds me a bit of Depeche Mode!


Thanks, Remco

Re: (313) Deepest Shade of Techno (was: Re: 313) A Guy Called Gerald techno tracks)

[Alex Bates]

I don't know about vinyl release on SSR, but vinyl release of Deepest
shade
of techno II came out in 1996 on Reflective which is Reinforced sublabel.

http://www.discogs.com/release/8187 - 2xCD

http://www.discogs.com/release/6245 - 2x12

ab

RE: (313) A Guy Called Gerald techno tracks

[Odeluga, Ken]

I'm late on this I know but I don't think this has been mentioned and I like
it - I see 'em from time to time and I think they're available from Gemm and
the like:

Strange Fruit

SFPS 071 A Guy Called Gerald - The Peel Session (12)

The trax are deep but also 'naive' in that 'old-techno-record' way.
k

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From: P dircon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 11:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 list
Subject: Re: (313) A Guy Called Gerald techno tracks


A great track..  Heavily influenced no doubt by  kao-tic harmony...

I got a white label called   a gur called gerald..  Trip city  which is
pretty damn fine.

Worth checking if u can find it...

 A Guy Called Gerald has a very nice melodic techno track called Anxiety
 posted on mp3.com

 http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/51/a_guy_called_gerald.html

 I was wondering - from his discog (besides Voodoo Ray and
Automanikk) which
 of his releases are similar to this style? I'm looking for his non-drum 
 bass tracks. I'm interested in his remix work too

 MEK

Re: (313) Deepest Shade of Techno (was: Re: 313) A Guy Called Gerald techno tracks)

[Alex Bates]

Sorry heres more info :

Had a quick look but couldnt see the deepest shade of techno vol 2 for sale
anywhere but

'Compiled  collated by Dego (from 4-Hero). 'Anxiety' was originally
released under the name of 'Inertia' on a Juicebox 12 single.'

Maybe that makes it easier for you to find...

ab
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Subject: Re: (313) Deepest Shade of Techno (was: Re: 313) A Guy Called
Gerald techno tracks)




 I don't know about vinyl release on SSR, but vinyl release of Deepest
 shade
 of techno II came out in 1996 on Reflective which is Reinforced
sublabel.

 http://www.discogs.com/release/8187 - 2xCD

 http://www.discogs.com/release/6245 - 2x12

 ab

(313) the risks of datareduced music

[Fabrizio Nahum]

Hi gang,
i think this can be of interest to most of you - it is an article that
explains the neuroacustic damage one (potentially?) suffers form listening
to datareduced music ie. mp3 and other digital audio

her is the link:
http://www.informatik.fh-hamburg.de/~windle_c/Logologie/MP3-Gefahr/MP3-risk.
html

have a nice weekend,
fab

Re: (313) Deepest Shade of Techno

[Anya Stang]

Thanks for all your input guys.
There's a copy out there with my name on it now
(thanks again Paul!). : )
Have a good weekend y'all.
Cheers,

Anya

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RE: (313) the risks of datareduced music

[Langsman, Marc]

Hmm surely by the same rational if you read too many magazines your eye
sight should be damaged by the moire in the print ??

 -Original Message-
 From: Fabrizio Nahum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 3:12 PM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) the risks of datareduced music
 
 
 Hi gang,
 i think this can be of interest to most of you - it is an 
 article that explains the neuroacustic damage one 
 (potentially?) suffers form listening to datareduced music 
 ie. mp3 and other digital audio
 
 her is the link: 
 http://www.informatik.fh-hamburg.de/~windle_c/Logologie/MP3-Ge
fahr/MP3-risk.
html

have a nice weekend,
fab



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Re: (313) DJ Stingray

[Minto George]

From: Slow_me [EMAIL PROTECTED]

hi,
we have the chance to bring dj stingray aka Sherard
Ingram.
anyone knows any details about him as a dj or what so
ever?
thanx
slow me

Sherard is an excellent dj...plays a lot of electro
and some old classic techno. I heard him at the first
DEMF play model 500 infoworld on 45...that was
interesting! I think it is still archived on the
groovetech website.

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Re: (313) the risks of datareduced music

[Alex Bates]

an interesting read, however there is one part the author did not go into
detail about very much that i wouldlike to find out more about...

is it damaging to sleep with music on i usually put a cd on as i go to
sleep so it would last about an hour... am i damaging my hearing (its not
very loud!)?!

ab


  Hi gang,
  i think this can be of interest to most of you - it is an
  article that explains the neuroacustic damage one
  (potentially?) suffers form listening to datareduced music
  ie. mp3 and other digital audio
 
  her is the link:
  http://www.informatik.fh-hamburg.de/~windle_c/Logologie/MP3-Ge
 fahr/MP3-risk.
 html

 have a nice weekend,
 fab

Re: (313) Track id - electrotrack

[Tom Robbins/Magic Feet]

That's on an EP by Fancy Robots called 'South Of The Sun, North Of The Moon'
(Keys Of Life/Sahko). It's produced by Jori 'Zyntherius' Hulkonnen and
Tuomas Salmela and came out in May 2001.

TOM


 Hi, can someone id this track for me, has been played by dj Hell:


 it has a robot-voice, saying:


 'We came out of the future,


 from behind the moon


 it was year 2020


 I was still a boy


 I had a robot friend


 We played robot games


 until one day


 ..'


 Thanks, Remco

Re: (313) the risks of datareduced music

[Michael Lees]

I think the levels of damage we're talking about here are a lot less 
than the damage suffered listening to v. loud music in a club or 
headphones. It's all relative, interesting nonetheless.




is it damaging to sleep with music on i usually put a cd on as i go to
sleep so it would last about an hour... am i damaging my hearing (its not
very loud!)?!


The article says:

I thus also suspect the data reduction in radio and TV broadcasts as a 
cause, not least because the hearing uses particularly the sleep for 
calibrating itself, during that the presence of neuroacoustically 
datareduced tones thus should be particularly harmful. 


So as long as its a CD you should be okay ;) However there is another 
danger from CDs


A possible advantage of the data reduction characteristic to remove all 
sound portions classified as inaudible could otherwise even be that 
one could clean with it supposingly contaminated audio material (as for 
instance propaganda from dictatorships) from so-called subliminals (i.e. 
hidden hypnotic suggestion messages those are intended to get into the 
brain without getting into conscious awareness) before listening.


Not too sure how plausible this article is?

--Mike

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RE: (313) the risks of datareduced music

[Robert Taylor]

Oh sh*t I don't want to know

-Original Message-
From: Michael Lees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 3:53 PM
To: Alex Bates
Cc: Langsman, Marc; 'Fabrizio Nahum'; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) the risks of datareduced music


I think the levels of damage we're talking about here are a lot less 
than the damage suffered listening to v. loud music in a club or 
headphones. It's all relative, interesting nonetheless.


 is it damaging to sleep with music on i usually put a cd on as i go to
 sleep so it would last about an hour... am i damaging my hearing (its not
 very loud!)?!
 
The article says:

I thus also suspect the data reduction in radio and TV broadcasts as a 
cause, not least because the hearing uses particularly the sleep for 
calibrating itself, during that the presence of neuroacoustically 
datareduced tones thus should be particularly harmful. 

So as long as its a CD you should be okay ;) However there is another 
danger from CDs

A possible advantage of the data reduction characteristic to remove all 
sound portions classified as inaudible could otherwise even be that 
one could clean with it supposingly contaminated audio material (as for 
instance propaganda from dictatorships) from so-called subliminals (i.e. 
hidden hypnotic suggestion messages those are intended to get into the 
brain without getting into conscious awareness) before listening.

Not too sure how plausible this article is?

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(313) jump motherf*cker jump tune id

[Alex Bates]

ok there is an early 90s cheesy tune (hey maybe it was made in detroit!) and
the name of the song has been bugging me for years... it starts off a bit
reggae then goes all early 90s rave/house and the vocal goes 'jump everybody
jump everybody jump' (insert rave stab type piano here)

the non-radio version says 'jump motherfu*ker jump motherfu*ker jump'

any info would please me greatly!

ab

RE: (313) jump motherf*cker jump tune id

[Langsman, Marc]

Sounds like an underground version of kriss-kross ;)

 -Original Message-
 From: Alex Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 4:01 PM
 To: 313 Mailing List
 Subject: (313) jump motherf*cker jump tune id
 
 
 ok there is an early 90s cheesy tune (hey maybe it was made 
 in detroit!) and the name of the song has been bugging me for 
 years... it starts off a bit reggae then goes all early 90s 
 rave/house and the vocal goes 'jump everybody jump everybody 
 jump' (insert rave stab type piano here)
 
 the non-radio version says 'jump motherfu*ker jump motherfu*ker jump'
 
 any info would please me greatly!
 
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Re: (313) jump motherf*cker jump tune id

[Alex Bates]

no i already have that record :)

(the instrumental is HEAVY!)

ab


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 Sounds like an underground version of kriss-kross ;)

  -Original Message-
  From: Alex Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 4:01 PM
  To: 313 Mailing List
  Subject: (313) jump motherf*cker jump tune id
 
 
  ok there is an early 90s cheesy tune (hey maybe it was made
  in detroit!) and the name of the song has been bugging me for
  years... it starts off a bit reggae then goes all early 90s
  rave/house and the vocal goes 'jump everybody jump everybody
  jump' (insert rave stab type piano here)
 
  the non-radio version says 'jump motherfu*ker jump motherfu*ker jump'
 
  any info would please me greatly!
 
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RE: (313) DJ Stingray

[Odeluga, Ken]

Sherard Ingram is/was Urban Tribe - given the connection to Drexciya, may I
ask about the featured artist called *Mystic* Tribe on the Other People
Place EP? Sounds a little like 'Covert Action' too...

k

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From: Slow_me [EMAIL PROTECTED]

hi,
we have the chance to bring dj stingray aka Sherard
Ingram.
anyone knows any details about him as a dj or what so
ever?
thanx
slow me

Sherard is an excellent dj...plays a lot of electro
and some old classic techno. I heard him at the first
DEMF play model 500 infoworld on 45...that was
interesting! I think it is still archived on the
groovetech website.

minto



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RE: (313) F Communications

[Joseph Covyeow]

Great double mix cd!!  There should also be a vinyl box set out of it.  It's 
not available on the fcomm shop yet though:(  But your local record dealer 
should be able to order it for you..



From: Benjamin Cuthbert (Merch) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu 23/Jan/2003 17:38 GMT
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Subject: RE: (313) F Communications

I got the joke

Question, to get back on track. Has anybody heard the new Jori

Hulkkonen/Laurent Garnier double-mix cd Classic and Rare on
F Communications? Reviews? Comments? From the looks of the tracklist, it 
sounds

like it will be pretty cool.


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Re: (313) the risks of datareduced music

[Alex Bates]

Listening to music while
 asleep may cause other problems, like nightmares though!


i usually try not to listen to gabber or grindcore when im trying to sleep
:)  also i thought tinnitus was a very permanent thing not just a ringing in
the ear when you wake up? i know of quite a few drum and bass producers who
suffer terribly from tinnitus...

 Marc:
 although reading too many magazines may cause problems (i for one wear
 glasses cuz i read too much under my covers with a flashlight as a kid),

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!

im sure im not the only one who doesnt want to know what you were reading!

ab

RE: (313) the risks of datareduced music

[Langsman, Marc]

 although reading too many magazines may cause problems (i for 
 one wear glasses cuz i read too much under my covers with a 
 flashlight as a kid), i think that that is caused to 
 insufficient lighting, poor print etc rather than the 
 intrinsic qualities of the print per se, 

That's a common falacy that reading in dim light damages your eyesight btw

 whereas the data 
 reduction in digital audio is sole cause of neuroacustic 
 damage to the ear (in this
 case.)

Surely by this rationale the data reduction whereby a spectrum of colours is
reduced to 3 colours (allowing your brain to interpolate / correct the rest)
would have the same affect as removing frequencies from sound ?!

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(313) Radio Jatkoaika 24.1.2003 (stream)

[Jussi Lehtonen]

http://byrokratia.org/radio  ( January 24th 2003  19.00 o'clock - )

Laws of Five:

Fax
Nurpo
Teemu P
Virasto
+ records

This group of five divides into two and three. It finds its symmetry
with the number five in the number twenty-eight. Twenty-eight is also
the number of days of the average female menstruation cycle and the 
length of the moon's cycle. Numbers two and three form the number
twenty-three which is the number of chromosomes we receive from both
our parents.

James Joyce's novel 'Portrait of an Artist' has five chapters and
'Ulysseys' eighteen. Notice the symmetry with the number 
twenty-three. However, 'Finnegan's Wake' has only seventeen 
chapters. If we open the number seventeen, like we did with the
number twenty-three, we get the number eight. Two to the power
of three is eight. Symmetry is maintained.

Robert Heinlein begins the second chapter in his novel 'The Puppet
Master' with the words '23hours and 17minutes ago, a flying saucer
landed in Iowa..'

The symmetry doesn't end there. Eight times five is fourty; the
number of days Jesus spent in the desert, the number of Ali Baba's
thieves and the size of our solar system is approximately fourty
astronomical units.

In the year 1723 mr Adam Smith was born and the Anderson's 
Constitution for the Freemason's was published. In the year
1776 Adam Smith published his work 'The Wealth of Nations'
and the Bavarian Illuminati was born.

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RE: (313) Track id - electrotrack

[Cobert, Gwendal]

 That's on an EP by Fancy Robots called 'South Of The Sun, 
 North Of The Moon'
 (Keys Of Life/Sahko). It's produced by Jori 'Zyntherius' Hulkonnen and
 Tuomas Salmela and came out in May 2001.

Just to make sure - the Zyntherius who works with Tiga is the same Jori
Hulkonnen from F Comm ??? didn't know that...

Gwendal

RE: (313) Track id - electrotrack

[Robert Taylor]

That's the guy!

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 4:18 PM
To: 313 mailing list
Subject: RE: (313) Track id - electrotrack


 That's on an EP by Fancy Robots called 'South Of The Sun, 
 North Of The Moon'
 (Keys Of Life/Sahko). It's produced by Jori 'Zyntherius' Hulkonnen and
 Tuomas Salmela and came out in May 2001.

Just to make sure - the Zyntherius who works with Tiga is the same Jori
Hulkonnen from F Comm ??? didn't know that...

Gwendal


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(313) Tonight: Thinkbox Collective | Settings | CD release party

[Rob Theakston]

Thinkbox | Settings | CD release event


An evening of experimental audio and video performances



Live sets from:

Christopher Bissonnette
Mark Laliberte
Chris McNamara
Steve Roy
Bill Van Loo and Rob Theakston
 





Opening and Intermittent DJ sets by Lee Isles (Blank00.net)


Where: Detroit Contemporary | 5141 Rosa Parks Blvd.
When:  Tonight 9pm-2am
 Opening Reception: 9pm-10pm
 Performances: 10pm-2am
Cover: $5 at the door= $5 off purchasing the new CD.
Links: www.detroitcontemporary.com
 www.thinkbox.ca

Re: (313) the risks of datareduced music

[Michael . Elliot-Knight]

I think the reason he wakes up with tinnitus is because in the middle of
the night his roommates sneak into his room, sedate him with heavy drug
injections, then proceed to bang out Jeff Mills' The Bells on the lids of
pots and pans.

I do know this - if you fall asleep with music on it *will* prevent you
from going into Delta sleep - that is the deeper sleep and the more restful
sleep - you still might dream because you're brain is still listening to
the music and more likely have nightmares because your body is not at rest.

Mr. Sandman
MEK





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IMO:

Alex:

the author only mentions cd audio as harmful in his personal case of when
he
falls asleep listening to music and waking up with tinnitus. He also seems
to being basing part of his theory on this case, which IMO is not a very
scientific way of proving it. AFAIK cd quality audio is not (heavily)
datareduced so the authours theory may not apply. Listening to music while
asleep may cause other problems, like nightmares though!

Marc:
although reading too many magazines may cause problems (i for one wear
glasses cuz i read too much under my covers with a flashlight as a kid), i
think that that is caused to insufficient lighting, poor print etc rather
than the intrinsic qualities of the print per se, whereas the data
reduction
in digital audio is sole cause of neuroacustic damage to the ear (in this
case.)



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From: Alex Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Fabrizio Nahum'
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: (313) the risks of datareduced music


 an interesting read, however there is one part the author did not go into
 detail about very much that i wouldlike to find out more about...

 is it damaging to sleep with music on i usually put a cd on as i go
to
 sleep so it would last about an hour... am i damaging my hearing (its not
 very loud!)?!

 ab


   Hi gang,
   i think this can be of interest to most of you - it is an
   article that explains the neuroacustic damage one
   (potentially?) suffers form listening to datareduced music
   ie. mp3 and other digital audio
  
   her is the link:
   http://www.informatik.fh-hamburg.de/~windle_c/Logologie/MP3-Ge
  fahr/MP3-risk.
  html
 
  have a nice weekend,
  fab

Re: (313) Ian Cheshire on Groovetech

[robin pinning]

 313's Ian Cheshire aka Kube72, will be on Groovetech London between 4 - 6
 today.

he's on now folksand doing a fine job!

robin...

(313) Kube72/Ian Cheshire - Live

[Odeluga, Ken]

http://www.groovetech.com/PhoenixData/GT/jsp/home.jsp

If you would like a melodious techy path into the weekend, you could do
worse than going there right now.

Ian gets 10/10 on technical skills from most and his hearts as big as the
moon (only it's in the right place not up there.)

k

Re: (313) the risks of datareduced music

[Michael Lees]

Fab:
the author only mentions cd audio as harmful in his personal case of 
when he falls asleep listening to music and waking up with tinnitus. 
He also seems to being basing part of his theory on this case, which 
IMO is not a very scientific way of proving it. AFAIK cd quality audio 
is not (heavily) datareduced so the authours theory may not apply. 
Listening to music while asleep may cause other problems, like 
nightmares though!


I completely agree with you, his argument was (basically) that he woke 
up after watching TV asleep with a ringing in his ears, therefore the 
datareduced sound used on TVs must cause tinitus.


Marc:

Surely by this rationale the data reduction whereby a spectrum of colours is
reduced to 3 colours (allowing your brain to interpolate / correct the rest)
would have the same affect as removing frequencies from sound ?!



But all colours are made from the primary colours? Therefore the data 
isn't reduced unless you use low colour depth ie. 8bit


I think the number of colours the eye can distniguish is between 16 and 
24bit 2^16 or 2^24? By using fewer colours I don't think you're tricking 
the eye? It just sees a particular tint instead of another?


Michael:
I think the reason he wakes up with tinnitus is because in the middle of
the night his roommates sneak into his room, sedate him with heavy drug
injections, then proceed to bang out Jeff Mills' The Bells on the lids 
of pots and pans.


I know people who've stopped taking drugs purely on the basis of their 
tinnitus. Apparently after drugs it got so bad he couldn't sleep, I 
don't know if this is to do with hightened sensory awareness?


--
Mike

Re: Fwd: Re: (313) re: [313] upcoming london events

[Michael . Elliot-Knight]

Most definitely second that! Glasgow is a great city - best food and
shopping by far. Street life is fantastic. MAS is a great club for house
and now that the SubClub is open again (it is isn't it?) it must be even
better.

missing it all terribly (especially since here it was -33*F yesterday)

MEK




   
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deffo true to say that a trip up there (Glasgow) is a must if you're
heading to these shores, good record shops, great clubs
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Re: (313) the risks of datareduced music

[Paul Hudson]

When you wake up, before you hear any loud noises (such as your alarm
clock), your hear is very sensitive and with very little outside noise, you
usually hear a high pitched noise within your head.  Waking up with this
sound is perfectly normal.
Perhaps it's this that is being mistake for hearing damage?

Have a look at this from http://www.tinnitus.org


The meaning of tinnitus sounds



In 1953 Heller and Bergman performed an simple and classic experiment. They
placed 80 tinnitus free individuals (university members in a sound proofed
room for 5 minutes each, asking them to report on any sounds that might be
heard. The subjects thought they might be undergoing a hearing test, but
actually experienced 5 minutes of total silence. 93% reported hearing
buzzing, pulsing, whistling sounds in the head or ears identical to those
reported by tinnitus sufferers.  This simple experiment shows almost anyone
can detect background electrical activity present in every living nerve cell
in the hearing pathways as a sound. Although some areas of the auditory
system may be more active than others, every neurone will contribute to some
extent to the final perception of tinnitus. These electrical signals are not
evidence of damage, but compensatory activity that occurs all the time in
the auditory system of each one of us.  Compensation can occur as a response
to changes in our sound environment (e.g. silence) to hearing loss which may
be a natural part of ageing, or to exposure to sudden noise.  Its good to
think of the sounds produced by this compensatory activity as 'the music of
the brain'.  Of those who DO experience persistent tinnitus, population
studies have shown  that about 85% do not find it intrusive, disturbing or
anxiety provoking (something tinnitus sufferers find very hard to believe!).
The reason for this is not so much because the quality or loudness of the
tinnitus is different; in fact we have found that tinnitus is of a very
similar type of sound in those who are bothered by it and those who are not.

Re: (313) the risks of datareduced music

[Fabrizio Nahum]

 sleep - you still might dream because you're brain is still listening to
 the music and more likely have nightmares because your body is not at
rest.


ever listened to SAWII or Leo Annibaldi's Void while sleeping?
:-))

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Fabrizio Nahum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; Alex Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Langsman,
Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: (313) the risks of datareduced music



 I think the reason he wakes up with tinnitus is because in the middle of
 the night his roommates sneak into his room, sedate him with heavy drug
 injections, then proceed to bang out Jeff Mills' The Bells on the lids
of
 pots and pans.

 I do know this - if you fall asleep with music on it *will* prevent you
 from going into Delta sleep - that is the deeper sleep and the more
restful
 sleep - you still might dream because you're brain is still listening to
 the music and more likely have nightmares because your body is not at
rest.

 Mr. Sandman
 MEK




   Fabrizio Nahum
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:   Alex Bates
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Langsman, Marc
   stries.com[EMAIL PROTECTED],
313@hyperreal.org
 cc:
   01/24/03 10:08 AM Subject:  Re: (313) the
risks of datareduced music






 IMO:

 Alex:

 the author only mentions cd audio as harmful in his personal case of when
 he
 falls asleep listening to music and waking up with tinnitus. He also seems
 to being basing part of his theory on this case, which IMO is not a very
 scientific way of proving it. AFAIK cd quality audio is not (heavily)
 datareduced so the authours theory may not apply. Listening to music while
 asleep may cause other problems, like nightmares though!

 Marc:
 although reading too many magazines may cause problems (i for one wear
 glasses cuz i read too much under my covers with a flashlight as a kid), i
 think that that is caused to insufficient lighting, poor print etc rather
 than the intrinsic qualities of the print per se, whereas the data
 reduction
 in digital audio is sole cause of neuroacustic damage to the ear (in this
 case.)



 - Original Message -
 From: Alex Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Fabrizio Nahum'
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 4:36 PM
 Subject: Re: (313) the risks of datareduced music


  an interesting read, however there is one part the author did not go
into
  detail about very much that i wouldlike to find out more about...
 
  is it damaging to sleep with music on i usually put a cd on as i go
 to
  sleep so it would last about an hour... am i damaging my hearing (its
not
  very loud!)?!
 
  ab
 
 
Hi gang,
i think this can be of interest to most of you - it is an
article that explains the neuroacustic damage one
(potentially?) suffers form listening to datareduced music
ie. mp3 and other digital audio
   
her is the link:
http://www.informatik.fh-hamburg.de/~windle_c/Logologie/MP3-Ge
   fahr/MP3-risk.
   html
  
   have a nice weekend,
   fab
 
 

Re: (313) sleep music

[Alex Bates]

 i actually cant fall asleep without music playing. and i sleep
 about 10-12 hours a night if im not interrupted, and i prefer to
 have music playing as much of that as possible.

same here, after moving back to quiet suburbia after 18 months of inner city
london i have had difficulty dealing with the silence at night time

recent favourite sleep cds include :

nude dimensions 1/2/3
ltj bukem - progression sessions 1/logical progression 1 mix
aquanote - the pearl
dj fabio - promised land vol 2
alicia keys - songs in a minor
hawtin - DE909

ab

RE: (313) DJ Stingray

[Minto George]

yup it's sherard...he was a close friend of james
stinson. - minto

--- Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sherard Ingram is/was Urban Tribe - given the
 connection to Drexciya, may I
 ask about the featured artist called *Mystic* Tribe
 on the Other People
 Place EP? Sounds a little like 'Covert Action'
 too...
 
 k
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Minto George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 3:37 PM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) DJ Stingray
 
 
 From: Slow_me [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 hi,
 we have the chance to bring dj stingray aka
 Sherard
 Ingram.
 anyone knows any details about him as a dj or what
 so
 ever?
 thanx
 slow me
 
 Sherard is an excellent dj...plays a lot of electro
 and some old classic techno. I heard him at the
 first
 DEMF play model 500 infoworld on 45...that was
 interesting! I think it is still archived on the
 groovetech website.
 
 minto
 
 
 
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Re: (313) the risks of datareduced music

[Sakari Karipuro]

Fabrizio Nahum wrote on Fri, 24 Jan 2003 about following:

 ever listened to SAWII or Leo Annibaldi's Void while sleeping?

yes, SAWII on repeat. i had some wisdom teeth problem. it was painful. 
SAWII helped me to sleep overnight.


sakke
--
 - * time to jack * - 
http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/music.html

RE: (313) sleep music

[Grammenos, Peter]

i love falling asleep to :

gas (wolfgang voight) - gas,pop
Markus Guentner - in moll
Porter Ricks - biokinetics
Pole 1

-pete

-Original Message-
From: Alex Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 11:46 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) sleep music


 i actually cant fall asleep without music playing. and i sleep
 about 10-12 hours a night if im not interrupted, and i prefer to
 have music playing as much of that as possible.

same here, after moving back to quiet suburbia after 18 months of inner city
london i have had difficulty dealing with the silence at night time

recent favourite sleep cds include :

nude dimensions 1/2/3
ltj bukem - progression sessions 1/logical progression 1 mix
aquanote - the pearl
dj fabio - promised land vol 2
alicia keys - songs in a minor
hawtin - DE909

ab

Re: (313) sleep music

[Thomas D. Cox, Jr.]

-- Original Message --
From: Alex Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED]

same here, after moving back to quiet suburbia after 18 months of 
inner city
london i have had difficulty dealing with the silence at night 
time

man, let me say, there aint nothing that keeps me awake like deep 
silence. i hate it. i hate silence pretty much entirely. it makes 
me feel uncomfortable. 

recent favourite sleep cds include :

nude dimensions 1/2/3

ive fallen asleep to some naked CDs in my time, thats for sure.

ltj bukem - progression sessions 1/logical progression 1 mix

i fell asleep listening to logical progression 1 last night 
actually! it was the unmixed version though. peshay's vocal 
track was playing when i actually went to sleep. thats gotta be 
one of the most beautiful dance songs in any genre. 

alicia keys - songs in a minor

i dont have alicia keys, but any of jill scott's material is up 
there with my favorites.

hawtin - DE909 

ack, i definitely dont know about that ; P 

consumed however is another good sleep time classic. 

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   

Re: (313) jump motherf*cker jump tune id

[Sakari Karipuro]

Alex Bates wrote on Sat, 25 Jan 2003 about following:

 ok there is an early 90s cheesy tune (hey maybe it was made in detroit!) and
 the name of the song has been bugging me for years... it starts off a bit
 reggae then goes all early 90s rave/house and the vocal goes 'jump everybody
 jump everybody jump' (insert rave stab type piano here)

there's one record that comes to mind, although, it does not start a 
bit reggae. it's from 1992 and it's called The Movement - Jump!. it's 
all that era eurocheese, samples 2 unlimited and all, and has plenty of 
rude words. and the rude version goes jump m0therf*cker jump! 

the movement - jump!
(a j mora/richard vission/hazze)
produced and mixed by Kandor  The Movement, 
executive producer Walter Kandor Kahn
rap performed by Hazze
programmed by The Movement
recorded at Reel Sound, Los Angeles, California
Engineered by Kandor.

it's on arista, remixes with jam el mar. 


sakke
--
 - * time to jack * - 
http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/music.html

RE: (313) sleep music

[Robert Taylor]

I need complete and utter silence to sleep - how can you sleep when your
brain is actively listening to music? I wish I could, it sounds like fun -
but I have to cut out all stimuli to get any rest whatsoever. It's hard
enough getting to sleep in the first place!

-Original Message-
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 5:00 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) sleep music


-- Original Message --
From: Alex Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED]

same here, after moving back to quiet suburbia after 18 months of 
inner city
london i have had difficulty dealing with the silence at night 
time

man, let me say, there aint nothing that keeps me awake like deep 
silence. i hate it. i hate silence pretty much entirely. it makes 
me feel uncomfortable. 

recent favourite sleep cds include :

nude dimensions 1/2/3

ive fallen asleep to some naked CDs in my time, thats for sure.

ltj bukem - progression sessions 1/logical progression 1 mix

i fell asleep listening to logical progression 1 last night 
actually! it was the unmixed version though. peshay's vocal 
track was playing when i actually went to sleep. thats gotta be 
one of the most beautiful dance songs in any genre. 

alicia keys - songs in a minor

i dont have alicia keys, but any of jill scott's material is up 
there with my favorites.

hawtin - DE909 

ack, i definitely dont know about that ; P 

consumed however is another good sleep time classic. 

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   


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Re: (313) jump motherf*cker jump tune id

[Alex Bates]

YES and at the end he says 'SEEN!'
aaah you have made my day.

ab


- Original Message -
From: Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Alex Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313 Mailing List 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 3:27 AM
Subject: Re: (313) jump motherf*cker jump tune id


 Alex Bates wrote on Sat, 25 Jan 2003 about following:

  ok there is an early 90s cheesy tune (hey maybe it was made in detroit!)
and
  the name of the song has been bugging me for years... it starts off a
bit
  reggae then goes all early 90s rave/house and the vocal goes 'jump
everybody
  jump everybody jump' (insert rave stab type piano here)

 there's one record that comes to mind, although, it does not start a
 bit reggae. it's from 1992 and it's called The Movement - Jump!. it's
 all that era eurocheese, samples 2 unlimited and all, and has plenty of
 rude words. and the rude version goes jump m0therf*cker jump!

 the movement - jump!
 (a j mora/richard vission/hazze)
 produced and mixed by Kandor  The Movement,
 executive producer Walter Kandor Kahn
 rap performed by Hazze
 programmed by The Movement
 recorded at Reel Sound, Los Angeles, California
 Engineered by Kandor.

 it's on arista, remixes with jam el mar.


 sakke
 --
  - * time to jack * -
 http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/music.html

Re: (313) sleep music

[Michael Lees]

My sleeping music no particular tracks just artists,

deep chord,
Theorem,
T-Power (before he got cr*p - self evident truth of intuitive mind is an 
astounding album)



Grammenos, Peter wrote:

i love falling asleep to :

gas (wolfgang voight) - gas,pop
Markus Guentner - in moll
Porter Ricks - biokinetics
Pole 1

-pete

-Original Message-
From: Alex Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 11:46 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) sleep music




i actually cant fall asleep without music playing. and i sleep
about 10-12 hours a night if im not interrupted, and i prefer to
have music playing as much of that as possible.



same here, after moving back to quiet suburbia after 18 months of inner city
london i have had difficulty dealing with the silence at night time

recent favourite sleep cds include :

nude dimensions 1/2/3
ltj bukem - progression sessions 1/logical progression 1 mix
aquanote - the pearl
dj fabio - promised land vol 2
alicia keys - songs in a minor
hawtin - DE909

ab


--
Mike

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~mhl/

Re: (313) sleep music

[g]

4 select tracks from Sex, Lies, and Videotape... repeat.

- Original Message -
From: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:52 AM
Subject: RE: (313) sleep music


 i love falling asleep to :

 gas (wolfgang voight) - gas,pop
 Markus Guentner - in moll
 Porter Ricks - biokinetics
 Pole 1

 -pete

 -Original Message-
 From: Alex Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 11:46 AM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) sleep music


  i actually cant fall asleep without music playing. and i sleep
  about 10-12 hours a night if im not interrupted, and i prefer to
  have music playing as much of that as possible.

 same here, after moving back to quiet suburbia after 18 months of inner
city
 london i have had difficulty dealing with the silence at night time

 recent favourite sleep cds include :

 nude dimensions 1/2/3
 ltj bukem - progression sessions 1/logical progression 1 mix
 aquanote - the pearl
 dj fabio - promised land vol 2
 alicia keys - songs in a minor
 hawtin - DE909

 ab

Re: (313) sleep music

[Data General]

the only record i can sleep to is Jan Jelinek, loop-finding jazz
records.

maybe autobahn, though i've never tried.

maybe music for airports, though i've never tried.



ben

Re: (313) Kube72/Ian Cheshire - Live

[g]

argh, wish they had the video running.
damn good set so far!!

- Original Message - 
From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:31 AM
Subject: (313) Kube72/Ian Cheshire - Live


 http://www.groovetech.com/PhoenixData/GT/jsp/home.jsp
 
 If you would like a melodious techy path into the weekend, you could do
 worse than going there right now.
 
 Ian gets 10/10 on technical skills from most and his hearts as big as the
 moon (only it's in the right place not up there.)
 
 k

RE: (313) sleep music

[Neil Wallace]

Music for airports is certainly the album of choice when I am ill. As
for sleeping I used to be able to have music playing but now I can not I
pay too much attention to the music and never get to sleep - similarl
when I reading I used to be able to listen to any music, nowadays if it
has any sort of vocal I find it too distracting.

:-Original Message-
:From: Data General [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
:Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 5:08 PM
:To: Michael Lees
:Cc: Grammenos, Peter; 313@hyperreal.org
:Subject: Re: (313) sleep music
:
:the only record i can sleep to is Jan Jelinek, loop-finding jazz
:records.
:
:maybe autobahn, though i've never tried.
:
:maybe music for airports, though i've never tried.
:
:
:
:ben
:
:
:
:
:

Re: (313) New Kevin Saunderson CD

[Kookie]

Speaking of Saunderson.  For those in the 313, Global is Back on Friday
nights at the Works starting a week from today.
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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 10:54 AM
Subject: (313) New Kevin Saunderson CD





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RE: (313) sleep music

[Thomas D. Cox, Jr.]

-- Original Message --
From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I need complete and utter silence to sleep - how can you sleep 
when your
brain is actively listening to music? I wish I could, it sounds 
like fun -
but I have to cut out all stimuli to get any rest whatsoever. 
It's hard
enough getting to sleep in the first place!

ive fallen asleep at raves, at concerts during opening bands i 
dont like, standing up on a bus while listening to headphones, 
just about anywhere you can think of. if you really love sleep, 
which i do, then music can only enhance it : ) 

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   

Re: (313) jump motherf*cker/Booty Up/Daisy Dukes

[dj revolver]

i had a demo copy of this about 8 years ago. my friends got a good laugh out 
of of it (or many good laughs). It went in our fun cheese for driving 
collection which included Daisy Dukes and The Booty Up.









From: Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Alex Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: 313 Mailing List 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) jump motherf*cker jump tune id
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 18:57:55 +0200 (EET)

Alex Bates wrote on Sat, 25 Jan 2003 about following:

 ok there is an early 90s cheesy tune (hey maybe it was made in detroit!) 
and
 the name of the song has been bugging me for years... it starts off a 
bit
 reggae then goes all early 90s rave/house and the vocal goes 'jump 
everybody

 jump everybody jump' (insert rave stab type piano here)

there's one record that comes to mind, although, it does not start a
bit reggae. it's from 1992 and it's called The Movement - Jump!. it's
all that era eurocheese, samples 2 unlimited and all, and has plenty of
rude words. and the rude version goes jump m0therf*cker jump!

the movement - jump!
(a j mora/richard vission/hazze)
produced and mixed by Kandor  The Movement,
executive producer Walter Kandor Kahn
rap performed by Hazze
programmed by The Movement
recorded at Reel Sound, Los Angeles, California
Engineered by Kandor.

it's on arista, remixes with jam el mar.


sakke
--
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http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/music.html



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RE: (313) sleep music

[Robert Taylor]

Lucky you! As I say, I am envious of people who can fall asleep listening to
music, but even ambient music is too stimulating for me.

-Original Message-
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 5:24 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) sleep music


-- Original Message --
From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I need complete and utter silence to sleep - how can you sleep 
when your
brain is actively listening to music? I wish I could, it sounds 
like fun -
but I have to cut out all stimuli to get any rest whatsoever. 
It's hard
enough getting to sleep in the first place!

ive fallen asleep at raves, at concerts during opening bands i 
dont like, standing up on a bus while listening to headphones, 
just about anywhere you can think of. if you really love sleep, 
which i do, then music can only enhance it : ) 

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   


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(313) Ian is rocking it on Groovetech!!!!

[Fabrizio Nahum]

one question, even if im a little ashamed.
how would you define the music he's playing? Whats do YOU call it?

RE: (313) sleep music

[Jernej Marusic]

I love music for falling asleep. 
My favorites are:
Biosphere - Substra (and others)
TV Victor - Agai
Fluxion - Spaces
Vladislav Delay - Anima
everything by Detroit Escalator Company
The KLF - Chill Out
...
One time I had M4 on loope entire night, but still couldn't get enough of
it. :) Same with Drexciya - Aqua worm hole.

Jernej
www.soundoflj.com/octex


 -Original Message-
 From: Alex Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 24. januar 2003 17:46
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) sleep music
 
 
  i actually cant fall asleep without music playing. and i sleep
  about 10-12 hours a night if im not interrupted, and i prefer to
  have music playing as much of that as possible.
 
 same here, after moving back to quiet suburbia after 18 
 months of inner city
 london i have had difficulty dealing with the silence at night time
 
 recent favourite sleep cds include :
 
 nude dimensions 1/2/3
 ltj bukem - progression sessions 1/logical progression 1 mix
 aquanote - the pearl
 dj fabio - promised land vol 2
 alicia keys - songs in a minor
 hawtin - DE909
 
 ab
 
 

(313) (OT) Detroit: Best place to stay

[Thomas Van Steen.]

Hi all,

I go to Detroit in February for the first time. Detroit and his suburb seems
to be very large.
Someone has an advice to help me to choose an hotel? Where are the best
places to stay?
(for clubbing, to be not remote of record shops and other electronic good
places, for visit the tourist places, etc...)


Tom from France.
http://www.pulsation.com

(313) Re:(313) Sub Club

[Jason Brunton]

 
 Most definitely second that! Glasgow is a great city - best food and
 shopping by far. Street life is fantastic. MAS is a great club for house
 and now that the SubClub is open again (it is isn't it?)

It certainly is, and list member Graeme Kerr played an excellent set there
last nigh by all accounts- three cheers for him!

Jason Brunton
Iridite



 
 
 

RE: (313) sleep music

[Samu Eilola]

sleepy sektori :

 Gas records on Mille Plateux
 Yagya - rhythm of snow,force inc
 pole - 3, kiff sm
 slowdive - souvlaki
 pop ambient compilations on kompakt
 boards of canada
 aphex twin - SAW 2
 autechre - incunabula

(313) Ignition 2003 Live Pa Performance Keith Tucker

[PuzzleBox]

Live set list performed at Detroit Ignition By Keith Tucker ,Black Tony, Bj 
aka POSATRONIX

Was as follows

(MO JO INTRO)
·   NUMBERSKraftwerk   (Interlude  SAMPLE  Voice)

·   DANCE  Posatronix (TWILIGHT ZONE SAMPLE)
(BRUCE LEE SAMPLE)
·   JOURNEY OF THE DRAGONS  Galaxy to Galaxy
(EDDIE  FOWLKES  SAMPLE  dmc SEMINAR)
·   GOOD BYE KISS
(OUTER LIMITS)
·   AUX MIND   AUX 88
·   STRINGS OF LIFE  Derrick May
(Computer Clear 
Intro)

·   CLEARCybotron
(OUTER LIMITS)
·   CONDOR   Auxmen
Peace Puzzlebox Records...

RE: (313) sleep music

[Matthew MacQueen]

 I love music for falling asleep. 
 My favorites are:
 Biosphere - Substra (and others)
[...]
 everything by Detroit Escalator Company
 The KLF - Chill Out

definitely those for me too... also 

Urban Tribe - The Collapse of Modern Culture
Arovane - Tides
Sean Deason - Allegory  Metaphor
Monolake - Hong Kong

95% of my Basic Channel / Rhythm  Sound / Pole, etc. and even Global 
Communications is on vinyl so I need to burn some CDs of it!   Definitely 
deep-for-sleep stuff.

peace
Matt MacQueen

(313) Re:(313) Sub Club

[Mark S . Krüx]

 It certainly is, and list member Graeme Kerr played an excellent set there
 last nigh by all accounts- three cheers for him!

Isn't he the Galloping Gourmet?!?!

;-PP

m*

Re: (313) Re:(313) Sub Club

[Dan Sicko]

Hah ... good call!

Paris the Black Fu is a chef, BTW --- hence Sandwiches and Big Onion

:)

On Friday, January 24, 2003, at 06:02 PM, Mark S. Krüx wrote:

It certainly is, and list member Graeme Kerr played an excellent set 
there

last nigh by all accounts- three cheers for him!


Isn't he the Galloping Gourmet?!?!

;-PP

m*

(313) [313] a 313 list history question.

[Lee Herrington IV]

 hi folks.  was the 313 list out-of-service for a time between '98 and
'99?  i can recall endless hours sifting through the archives.  however, i
could not discover a way to join the list at the time.  just curious.

-now playing-  theo parrish : smile EP... damn fine house. :-)

lrh

Re: (313) [313] a 313 list history question.

[Klaas-Jan Jongsma]

At 18:19 -0500 24-01-2003, Lee Herrington IV wrote:

 hi folks.  was the 313 list out-of-service for a time between '98 and
'99?  i can recall endless hours sifting through the archives.  however, i
could not discover a way to join the list at the time.  just curious.


I do remember a week without 313 after one of the disks of the 
hyperreal server crashed ... oh the horrors we had to go through. 
Members e-mailing each other on panic why they did not receive any 
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(313) sleep music

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sleep.

Rafael Toral, Violence of Discovery and Calm of Acceptance

Harold Budd  Brian Eno, the pearl

Steve Reich, Music for 18 Musicians 

Various Kompakt Artists, Pop ambient 2001, 2002,  2003

Mojave 3, ask me tomorrow

Dettinger, intershop

Fennesz, endless summer

Labradford, mi media naranja

Flying Saucer Attack, chorus

Mogwai, come on die young

Vladislav Delay, entain, anima

Monolake, Gobi. The Desert

Hazard, wind

Manuel Göttsching, Inventions for Electric Guitar

Windy  Carl, Consciousness