Re: (313) b-52's
Furthermore, Mesopotamia got heavy rotation here in the 80's. You were just as likely to hear that on any radio station here back in the day. Peace, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/28/2003 06:59 PM To 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject (313) b-52's Because it rocks! :) B-52s are from Baltimore, so I doubt there's a tangible [313] connection. the b-52's are from athens, georgia, though i guess you can be excused from thinking they're from baltimore, given their hairstyles :^)
(313) RE: Vestax or Technics
Sakari, Ah, as I suspected, there is a somewhat of a difference in tempo in our sets. My sets would rarely be so slow, for one thing because I play techno and UR electro the upper limit is more like 150, regularly, and I rarely would go below probably 125 usually, although I don't own a BPM counter. Well, I might mix in a slower track, but I probably won't beatmatch. Interestingly, it sounds like you are letting the tempo fluctuations of electro dissuade you from programming it so much! Also, it almost seems like you are able to do this easier because you don't buy techno records that exceed 130 bpm, does this limit your buying choices at all? I pretty much play 3 tempos: house, tech-house, and techno to electro. In each range there tends to be a record or two that really belongs in the category but needs to be pitched up a bit to fit in the right place in the mix in terms of texture and energy. Especially in the tech-house some of the more techno tracks are at 0 to -2, while the housier tracks may go into +3 to +6 range. While I don't always like having to pitch up, I don't have any way to really make the track selection I want happen without doing this. Your main upper limit, 130 is very slow for modern techno-ish type tracks, even ones with a Detroit feel. I can't imagine having that as my upper BPM limit really! Curious if anyone else has any thoughts on this? ~Dave -Original Message- From: Sakari Karipuro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 5:46 PM To: David Powers Subject: Re: Vestax or Technics David Powers wrote on Mon, 28 Jul 2003 about following: hi david, I'll ignore spw's essay on trendiness, that has nothing to do with this, he's quite annoying, isn't he :) but I'd mention that your rule would make it very difficult to mix in older classic tracks in a slightly uptempo set. well, most of the classics are in range of 115-125 for house and 123-130+ for techno. i don't see any trouble here.. of course you need to occasionally break the rule, but i don't do it with EVERY mix in the set (or every other mix either) :) (and you can always just change, and not beat mix at all) it's a kinda shame that many good house records are nowadays somewhere around 128-130bpm range, even the MAW have gone up those tempoes. what i like in house music is the a bit lazy drums and enough space for the bassline (ie not too fast tempo) so it keeps the groove, for me this seems to work best at around 120-125 bpm. couple of bizarre sounding things done by booty DJs with classic techno tracks pitched at +45. it's when you hear bucketheads - the bomb played at 45 +16 mixed with some cheesy Music TV-advertised GABBER you start to cry. This doesn't seem like a great rule for all situations, why do you find it so important to stick to this? just my personal opinion. i like the music as it was made. the dj is supposed to play the records, he's given +-8 scale to allow beatmatching. just too many records from my collection sound bad pitched too much. be it house, hip-hop, soul, techno.. maybe it's just me but thats how i like things. records all played at 0). Maybe 2/3 of a set are in the range you give. What styles do you play and do you think your rule applies to all of them? i play mostly house techno, sometimes starting the set from 110bpm and building my way up to 130 (with time).. i can play some rap/hip-hop, soul, r'n'b (mostly b-sides of house-records from early 90's though, since most of the good stuff was remixes from those), some more eclectic stuff like the orb, bjork, theo parrish, fsol, idm'ish stuff to rob hood to UR to harder old techno, not forgetting early nineties rave breakbeat (the good stuff below 140bpm :) i can even throw a set of early nineties euro-dance for kicks (i used to dj some kids school discos). but yes my rule applies like say 90% of the time. there's always the record you cannot remember that's 118bpm or 129bpm.. :P oh i forgot the electro, which makes the biggest problem keeping the rule since it goes all the range from 120 to 150bpm and i'm not buying much of that stuff. generally i just drop the tracks in that part of the set they fit considering their tempo. generally, it's quite easy. sakke -- Timing must be perfect now. Two-timing must be better than perfect. http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/
RE: (313) Vestax or Technics
this coming from someone who plays mostly '80s music on his radio show. I know your jsut trying to educate people but that's so typical why not more minmal techno and early '90s techno? mostly 80's? Really? I think you mean SOME, but definitely the minority. The 80's is decade, not a genre of music man! And I consider myself a student, not a teacher. When you play every single week, for years, you have to mix it up. I play probably 3-10 records from the early 90s in a 60 minute show. But whatever.. I vary it constantly on purpose. You couldn't have known this, but at my station there are also other shows adjacent to mine dedicated to harder or minimal techno for an entire show, so it's not something in my broadcast area I feel needs greater representation, (esp. when I find a lot of new minimal techno boring/lacking). You would have enjoyed our Bleep techno marathon but that would bore me to tears to play it every single week, techno has changed and some of it (gasp) even for the better. And I thought *I* was nostalgic for old techno... yikes BTW - I do appreciate ALL feedback on my show, both negative and positive. Electronic music to me is too large to stay micro-genre or period focused. It's just a different philosophy than yours, obviously. Staying up late to hear Mojo playing freeform as a teen inspired me to connect the dots all over the genres/periods... but most DJs don't. A lot of people (maybe even you) can't handle it, they want to keep putting things in boxes that are more comfortable for what they're used to. Consider making a website and posting your own mixes consistently, it's a challenge. You don't need a radio station to have a radio show. Turn that criticism into some ideas and positive energy... fill the need yourself with what you feel is missing. Many people do this instead of complaining about what others freely offer. Bring joy to others with your excellence in nothing but early 90's techno selections. I disagree, there's always room for improvement especially if you have a formula that works. Look at all the Detroit labels trying to sound like the '80s with electro. To me it doesn't sound 80s, that's where we differ. There are influences, sure, but it's not trying to sound 80's. And making such comments about pitch is not considering this is the 313 list? I think the comment about what pitch is one person's opinion, not some universal mandate. I myself think it's silly, as to do a lot of the mixes I attempt, things have to be pitched way up or down to even pull it off since the tempos are all over the place. I'm just telling it like I see it. As am I. HIGH FIVE!! Matt MacQueen
Re: (313) Vestax or Technics
Mike Huckaby, 2 weeks ago: See in the beginning we didn't see no separation between house and techno, it was all the same music. Similarly, when they started making hip hop records in the 70s, they thought they were just making disco their own way, something pointed up perfectly in how Rapper's Delight is Good Times note for note. Not to state the blindingly obvious or anything. On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Sakari Karipuro wrote: no, actually i was both. i've always been torn apart by these two, having interest in both, sometimes buying more techno, sometimes more house.
Re: (313) KDJ recommendations?
yeah I guess thats true. Okay, while obviously its a different thing, can anyone list a few KDJ songs that sample either Prince or Marvin Gaye? thanks again! -- Original Message -- From: Tom Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 23:01:37 +0100 I've been curious about his music for a while. I recently picked up the new album and also Silentintroduction, but what I'm really wondering is which songs exactly are people refering to when they are comparing similarities to him and either Prince or Marvin Gaye? I think people generally mention Prince or Marvin Gaye in the context of KDJ sampling them, rather than actually sounding like them himself... Cheers, Tom Free 20MB Web Site Hosting and Personalized E-mail Service! Get It Now At Doteasy.com http://www.doteasy.com/et/
RE: (313) KDJ recommendations?
you could try, tribute[to the soul we lost] - samples marvin gaye or, u can dance if u want 2 - samples prince cheers, lrh -Original Message- From: spacecrusher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:54 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) KDJ recommendations? yeah I guess thats true. Okay, while obviously its a different thing, can anyone list a few KDJ songs that sample either Prince or Marvin Gaye? thanks again! -- Original Message -- From: Tom Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 23:01:37 +0100 I've been curious about his music for a while. I recently picked up the new album and also Silentintroduction, but what I'm really wondering is which songs exactly are people refering to when they are comparing similarities to him and either Prince or Marvin Gaye? I think people generally mention Prince or Marvin Gaye in the context of KDJ sampling them, rather than actually sounding like them himself... Cheers, Tom Free 20MB Web Site Hosting and Personalized E-mail Service! Get It Now At Doteasy.com http://www.doteasy.com/et/
Re: (313) Mayday Forum Change
Arggh, this from the ABC! So that's Wed for you guys in the US or Europe, should be Detroit 11 pm and London 3 am (unless you have d'light saving) and Berlin/Amsterdam/Barcelona 4 am (do you have d'light saving? I assume not). You can ask all your trainspotter questions now, like what that Grace, Tenderness record is, etc, etc, etc... we now have him 100% pinned down for the forum this Thursday (31st July)at 1pm. -- From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Mayday Forum Change Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 2:36 AM And that's a day earlier - ie Wed - if you're in the US or Europe, of course... -- From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Mayday Forum Change Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 2:34 AM You're not going to believe this, but the forum is now on Thursday - perils of being an international traveller, I guess! www.soundsliketechno.com.au - look for the forums section. I think it will be noon East Coast Aust time on Thur 31st which, just to get some idea, is about 10 pm Detroit time and 2 am London time (I know Detroit is on daylight saving but I don't know about you European cats so please take that into account if you wish to participate). Wonder what people think of this online documentary over all. I advise listening to the audio, not reading the transcripts - I can only speak for myself but I think some of the transcripts are a little inaccurate. I know I didn't use some of those words! It's first rate otherwise! -- From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Mayday Forum Change Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 1:58 AM Last week I posted some info for the Derrick May forum on the Sounds Like Techno site, the forum has been pushed back a week - details below. The time below is Sydney/Melbourne time so for anyone elsewhere that would be sometime Saturday evening Detroit time, just so you guys can get some idea. Yeah, we had a last minute change last week and Derrick in now confirmed to be on the forum at 11.20pm on Sunday 27th at www.soundsliketechno.com.au. He's being interviewed by Fenella Kernebone on her program the Sound Lab on triple j at 11pm, then will be live on the forum answering questions from 11.20pm.
RE: (313) Mixup Selecta...
Brand new mix online at : http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/users/mbl/Bang4DaBucks.mp3 This is a fun mix, really cracked me up in parts... I love a sense of humor, fun turntable action on scratching the old RB samples in and out :) Thanks for posting it! I gotta ask where are the samples from all about we're all here for one reason: to get filty rich etc. Gotta be some movie? Not Glengary Glenross, is it? Cheers Matt MacQueen
(313) mesopotamia
don't you mean Athens, Georgia? On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 06:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because it rocks! :) B-52s are from Baltimore, so I doubt there's a tangible [313] connection.
(313) BMG in Australia
We've got BMG in Australia this weekend for a few parties playing off laptop. I know it's gonna be a little quirky. ;) Anyone know of mixes lying about? r./ -- Benn Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.royaltech.net
Re: (313) Mayday Forum Change
he also did an interview on tripple jjj on sunday night which i missed. Did anyone copy it or know where i can hear it? Quoting Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Arggh, this from the ABC! So that's Wed for you guys in the US or Europe, should be Detroit 11 pm and London 3 am (unless you have d'light saving) and Berlin/Amsterdam/Barcelona 4 am (do you have d'light saving? I assume not). You can ask all your trainspotter questions now, like what that Grace, Tenderness record is, etc, etc, etc... we now have him 100% pinned down for the forum this Thursday (31st July)at 1pm. -- From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Mayday Forum Change Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 2:36 AM And that's a day earlier - ie Wed - if you're in the US or Europe, of course... -- From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Mayday Forum Change Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 2:34 AM You're not going to believe this, but the forum is now on Thursday - perils of being an international traveller, I guess! www.soundsliketechno.com.au - look for the forums section. I think it will be noon East Coast Aust time on Thur 31st which, just to get some idea, is about 10 pm Detroit time and 2 am London time (I know Detroit is on daylight saving but I don't know about you European cats so please take that into account if you wish to participate). Wonder what people think of this online documentary over all. I advise listening to the audio, not reading the transcripts - I can only speak for myself but I think some of the transcripts are a little inaccurate. I know I didn't use some of those words! It's first rate otherwise! -- From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Mayday Forum Change Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 1:58 AM Last week I posted some info for the Derrick May forum on the Sounds Like Techno site, the forum has been pushed back a week - details below. The time below is Sydney/Melbourne time so for anyone elsewhere that would be sometime Saturday evening Detroit time, just so you guys can get some idea. Yeah, we had a last minute change last week and Derrick in now confirmed to be on the forum at 11.20pm on Sunday 27th at www.soundsliketechno.com.au. He's being interviewed by Fenella Kernebone on her program the Sound Lab on triple j at 11pm, then will be live on the forum answering questions from 11.20pm. - This mail sent through IMP: www-mail.usyd.edu.au
Re: (313) Mayday Forum Change
Yeah, my mum taped it. I got her to tape it knowing some of my friends wouldn't come to my b'day party and, like, miss Derrick's interview (yep, that's you, CV). She called me on my mobile laughing as the female interviewer said, which is your favourite machine, your car or your decks and, with her Australian accent, he thought she said some other instrument that sounds like 'decks' and nominated that! Ha! It's good but, like my mother said (she's so on it), I don't know why they asked about White Stripes and the Detroit rock scene. I mean, being a rock station, regardless of new programming slants, Triple J still has to validate doing an interview with an electronic artist by referencing rock. If they don't post a transcript, I'll see what I can do. he also did an interview on tripple jjj on sunday night which i missed. Did anyone copy it or know where i can hear it? Quoting Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Arggh, this from the ABC! So that's Wed for you guys in the US or Europe, should be Detroit 11 pm and London 3 am (unless you have d'light saving) and Berlin/Amsterdam/Barcelona 4 am (do you have d'light saving? I assume not). You can ask all your trainspotter questions now, like what that Grace, Tenderness record is, etc, etc, etc... we now have him 100% pinned down for the forum this Thursday (31st July)at 1pm. -- From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Mayday Forum Change Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 2:36 AM And that's a day earlier - ie Wed - if you're in the US or Europe, of course... -- From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Mayday Forum Change Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 2:34 AM You're not going to believe this, but the forum is now on Thursday - perils of being an international traveller, I guess! www.soundsliketechno.com.au - look for the forums section. I think it will be noon East Coast Aust time on Thur 31st which, just to get some idea, is about 10 pm Detroit time and 2 am London time (I know Detroit is on daylight saving but I don't know about you European cats so please take that into account if you wish to participate). Wonder what people think of this online documentary over all. I advise listening to the audio, not reading the transcripts - I can only speak for myself but I think some of the transcripts are a little inaccurate. I know I didn't use some of those words! It's first rate otherwise! -- From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Mayday Forum Change Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 1:58 AM Last week I posted some info for the Derrick May forum on the Sounds Like Techno site, the forum has been pushed back a week - details below. The time below is Sydney/Melbourne time so for anyone elsewhere that would be sometime Saturday evening Detroit time, just so you guys can get some idea. Yeah, we had a last minute change last week and Derrick in now confirmed to be on the forum at 11.20pm on Sunday 27th at www.soundsliketechno.com.au. He's being interviewed by Fenella Kernebone on her program the Sound Lab on triple j at 11pm, then will be live on the forum answering questions from 11.20pm. - This mail sent through IMP: www-mail.usyd.edu.au
Re: (313) Mayday Forum Change
White Stripes has nothing to do with Derrick May, but they are from Detroit. Shit if they paid well enough he'd do a remix no doubt. Alan Oldham told me last year at DEMF that he'd tried to book White Stripes for the festival, but for one reason or another it didn't work out... On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Cyclone Wehner wrote: It's good but, like my mother said (she's so on it), I don't know why they asked about White Stripes and the Detroit rock scene.
Re: (313) BMG in Australia
same night in Sydney as Luke Solomon. Hmm, tough desicions need to be made Quoting Benn Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We've got BMG in Australia this weekend for a few parties playing off laptop. I know it's gonna be a little quirky. ;) Anyone know of mixes lying about? r./ -- Benn Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.royaltech.net - This mail sent through IMP: www-mail.usyd.edu.au
(313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off
-- 3rd try, earlier post don´t seem to get thru -- Hi friends, now that it is still fresh in my memory, I will try to review the closing night from 10 days off (with my last efforts - so don´t mind the typo´s). Well.. let me say first that I only checked the main room, I actually only wanna talk about Jack De Marseille and Derrick May. 2h - 4h: Jack De Marseille : Man man man. is this guy boring. Loop techno some boring electro... no sample in 2 hours time.. All synth work, quite progressive. Very boring, and too hard. I was actually getting p*ssed of by this guy, so what I hoped was that at 4 am Derrick Would come up, push Jack away and say this is how you do sh*t and then take two copies of strings of life and double the beginning part up (the strings). But this was not the case... It was even worse than that: Derrick gave Jack a warm hug (the crowd cheered). I thought Derrick would have tought Oh my god, I hope I never met Juan, look what happened because of me, all that boring loop techno. But no... 4h - 7h: Derrick May : --- When Derrick came up, it was my first moment of joy from the evening, he opend up with son dos from los hermanos and then played dj gregory - attend, wich got me moving the first time of the whole evening. I actually was screaming! Great track. But then the nightmare began. He played boring clubtrack after the other... it was uninspiring.. nothing special.. it was actually just the same style as jack de marseille did before. I couldn´t believe my ears... It was the worst Derrick May set I heard in my whole life. I mean... how long can you dance to a loop? I left after one hour of Derrick May, no second to early. A big big dissapointment.. He has the records, he has the skills, why torture us with loop techno (of the really boring kind), if he can make the most wonderfull mixes. Why? Easy money? Start the discussion please. Another 'going out disaster'. I actually never had a good techno night out, never! Probably going to the wrong places. Where is Theo or Shake when you need them?! Cheers, Maarten my musical interests http://www.morthenkiang.com/
Re: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off
You should have seen him at the Movement afterparty, that was great. You just had to see who was dancing to appreciate that. Everyone has good and bad gigs. Sometimes I see my favourite DJs in Sydney and they're never as good as Melbourne and it's made me realise the effect locale can have. I hope hugging people doesn't mean you do or don't validate their music otherwise we're all going to have to retract a lifetime of hugs to lovely people who have terrible records at home. ;) now that it is still fresh in my memory, I will try to review the closing night from 10 days off (with my last efforts - so don´t mind the typo´s). Well.. let me say first that I only checked the main room, I actually only wanna talk about Jack De Marseille and Derrick May. 2h - 4h: Jack De Marseille : Man man man. is this guy boring. Loop techno some boring electro... no sample in 2 hours time.. All synth work, quite progressive. Very boring, and too hard. I was actually getting p*ssed of by this guy, so what I hoped was that at 4 am Derrick Would come up, push Jack away and say this is how you do sh*t and then take two copies of strings of life and double the beginning part up (the strings). But this was not the case... It was even worse than that: Derrick gave Jack a warm hug (the crowd cheered). I thought Derrick would have tought Oh my god, I hope I never met Juan, look what happened because of me, all that boring loop techno. But no... 4h - 7h: Derrick May : --- When Derrick came up, it was my first moment of joy from the evening, he opend up with son dos from los hermanos and then played dj gregory - attend, wich got me moving the first time of the whole evening. I actually was screaming! Great track. But then the nightmare began. He played boring clubtrack after the other... it was uninspiring.. nothing special.. it was actually just the same style as jack de marseille did before. I couldn´t believe my ears... It was the worst Derrick May set I heard in my whole life. I mean... how long can you dance to a loop? I left after one hour of Derrick May, no second to early. A big big dissapointment.. He has the records, he has the skills, why torture us with loop techno (of the really boring kind), if he can make the most wonderfull mixes. Why? Easy money? Start the discussion please. Another 'going out disaster'. I actually never had a good techno night out, never! Probably going to the wrong places. Where is Theo or Shake when you need them?! Cheers, Maarten my musical interests http://www.morthenkiang.com/
RE: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off
Re Derrick May Same story three weeks ago ... Boring stuff as hell ! Had two tapes of him plaid the same city 6-7 years ago and based that my hopes were really high: spank spank, donna summer his trademark French Kiss, convextion on matrix, chain reaction...just to name a few. What a dissapointment period -Original Message- From: Maarten Baute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 July 2003 12:47 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off -- 3rd try, earlier post don´t seem to get thru -- Hi friends, now that it is still fresh in my memory, I will try to review the closing night from 10 days off (with my last efforts - so don´t mind the typo´s). Well.. let me say first that I only checked the main room, I actually only wanna talk about Jack De Marseille and Derrick May. 2h - 4h: Jack De Marseille : Man man man. is this guy boring. Loop techno some boring electro... no sample in 2 hours time.. All synth work, quite progressive. Very boring, and too hard. I was actually getting p*ssed of by this guy, so what I hoped was that at 4 am Derrick Would come up, push Jack away and say this is how you do sh*t and then take two copies of strings of life and double the beginning part up (the strings). But this was not the case... It was even worse than that: Derrick gave Jack a warm hug (the crowd cheered). I thought Derrick would have tought Oh my god, I hope I never met Juan, look what happened because of me, all that boring loop techno. But no... 4h - 7h: Derrick May : --- When Derrick came up, it was my first moment of joy from the evening, he opend up with son dos from los hermanos and then played dj gregory - attend, wich got me moving the first time of the whole evening. I actually was screaming! Great track. But then the nightmare began. He played boring clubtrack after the other... it was uninspiring.. nothing special.. it was actually just the same style as jack de marseille did before. I couldn´t believe my ears... It was the worst Derrick May set I heard in my whole life. I mean... how long can you dance to a loop? I left after one hour of Derrick May, no second to early. A big big dissapointment.. He has the records, he has the skills, why torture us with loop techno (of the really boring kind), if he can make the most wonderfull mixes. Why? Easy money? Start the discussion please. Another 'going out disaster'. I actually never had a good techno night out, never! Probably going to the wrong places. Where is Theo or Shake when you need them?! Cheers, Maarten my musical interests http://www.morthenkiang.com/
Re: (313) BMG in Australia
go! lots tracks he plays are rmxs listen for zapp, that one is my favorite ;-) -scotto lansing, mi. plaztikjezuz.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Benn Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:43 AM Subject: Re: (313) BMG in Australia same night in Sydney as Luke Solomon. Hmm, tough desicions need to be made Quoting Benn Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We've got BMG in Australia this weekend for a few parties playing off laptop. I know it's gonna be a little quirky. ;) Anyone know of mixes lying about? r./ -- Benn Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.royaltech.net - This mail sent through IMP: www-mail.usyd.edu.au
Re: (313) Vestax or Technics
i really like the sound of records played at minus 8. and believe me--i've got plenty of records. From: Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:11:31 +0100 To: 'Sakari Karipuro' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Vestax or Technics not to diss anyone personally, there is ABSOLUTELY no need for pitch above +4% or less than -2%. if you come into such situation you don't have enough records with you. There is if you play GheTToStyle thankyou very much !!! .. Oh yeah and that involves having far too many records ! Peace, marc -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
Re: (313) Walter Gibbons
let me rephrase then, a record company recently released a mix of walter gibbons that consists of salsoul classics. james From: Warren Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:14:55 +0100 To: James Bucknell [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Walter Gibbons He died in 94! -Original Message- From: James Bucknell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 July 2003 01:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Walter Gibbons not online, but i think he released a mix cd recently; maybe of salsloul classics. i saw the vinyl release, but the tracks are mixed on the vinyl. so i didn't buy it. but i seem to remember it was old disco tracks. james From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:05:58 -0500 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Walter Gibbons Anyone know where there are DJ mixes of Walter Gibbons online? Deephousepage - had what looks like two (but I actually think it might be the same one) #920 190 - but they both say Walter Gibbons Live @ Yellow, Japan, early 90s which leads me to think they might be the same mix (haven't listened yet) I'd love to find some old Galaxy 21 sets. MEK
Re: (313) RE: Vestax or Technics
David Powers wrote on Mon, 28 Jul 2003 about following: buy techno records that exceed 130 bpm, does this limit your buying with a Detroit feel. I can't imagine having that as my upper BPM limit really! i never said 130 is the upper limit. i said classic techno goes 130+ which obviously means it goes above that. and i said below 140 bpm for the good stuff, regarding the rave records. oh and David, you noticed it was private mail, not list mail, just like your mail i replied to, but since you brought this back to the list i'll keep it CC'd, although, i think it's time to let this discussion go; i've said what i have to say about it already. sakke -- Timing must be perfect now. Two-timing must be better than perfect. http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/
Re: (313) RE: Vestax or Technics
Come on guys, does it really matter if you pitch up, down or sideways - techno is about innovation not BPM. md 29/7/03 8:17 AM Sakari [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Powers wrote on Mon, 28 Jul 2003 about following: buy techno records that exceed 130 bpm, does this limit your buying with a Detroit feel. I can't imagine having that as my upper BPM limit really! i never said 130 is the upper limit. i said classic techno goes 130+ which obviously means it goes above that. and i said below 140 bpm for the good stuff, regarding the rave records. oh and David, you noticed it was private mail, not list mail, just like your mail i replied to, but since you brought this back to the list i'll keep it CC'd, although, i think it's time to let this discussion go; i've said what i have to say about it already. sakke
RE: (313) ot - kwaito on vinyl?
thanks for the links... must admit I have trouble findings in what way these artists are supposed to be part of the same genre, downloaded the soundclips from kwaitomusic.com and while Labella is some very nice house, I'd put Mandoza or Spencer Hiyo in the RB department... anyway, just moved in in the north of Paris, most of the african community lives there, should have no trouble finding the right record shops ! ;-) Gwendal -Original Message- From: Anya Stang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 6:47 PM To: J. T.; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) ot - kwaito on vinyl? While I can't answer your question about vinyl releases either, I found some sites on Kwaito which I found interesting, and they might help you with your search... Here are the links: http://www.rage.co.za/kwaito.html http://www.rage.co.za/issue29/kwaito.htm http://www.kwaitomusic.com/ Cheers, Anya From: J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon 28/Jul/2003 16:11 GMT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) ot - kwaito on vinyl? any place on the web where one could listen to samples, maybe a producer name or two ? if South Africans play house like Nigerians played funk in the 70's, kwaito is worth the hunt ! ;-) Gwendal brenda fassie is definitely the biggest name, she's been around for quite awhile now and might be likened to the Madonna of South Africa...apparently she's the niece of N. Mandela! there are definitely soundbites out there, maybe start here..: http://www.rage.co.za/issue43/ and a nice kwaito fansite here: http://www.megweb.uct.ac.za/www/students/RRKROB001/roots.htm supposedly kwaito was/is pretty big in the uk, but still i am finding virtually no vinyl releases... jt __ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application.
RE: (313) UR/PE
Thanks for the tip ! they seem to have a CD comp, is it good ? didn't even know Submerge did some hip-hop as well, must check that out... Gwendal -Original Message- From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 10:15 AM To: Cobert, Gwendal Cc: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: RE: (313) UR/PE Hypnotech is a submerge based hip-hop label, i think they like to call it tech-hop. They had some nice releases, check the submerge site for soundbites: http://www.submerge.com/shoppingcart/show_records.php?label=38 session=dade4 49831dedd521ea6528ce6db5db0 I thought that they had there own website to but i can't find the link anymore KJ Once again, sorry, but... what is Hypnotech ??? Gwendal -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 2:25 AM To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) UR/PE A lot of the hip-hop DJs are really curious about the Hypnotech stuff and the theory behind it. -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. --
Re: (313) ot - kwaito on vinyl?
If i remember correctly, there is a lot of Kwaito on vinyl - mostly available from House Afrika - I'm sure they have a web site. In terms of artists: Arthur,m'du, Mapaputsi - there's loads. Brothers of Peace umm ...stretching my memory now and not so huge knowledge of kwaito. dunno how the no pressing plant for records plays into this, will ask a friend and let you know. - Original Message - From: Cobert, Gwendal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: 29 July 2003 08:41 Subject: RE: (313) ot - kwaito on vinyl? thanks for the links... must admit I have trouble findings in what way these artists are supposed to be part of the same genre, downloaded the soundclips from kwaitomusic.com and while Labella is some very nice house, I'd put Mandoza or Spencer Hiyo in the RB department... anyway, just moved in in the north of Paris, most of the african community lives there, should have no trouble finding the right record shops ! ;-) Gwendal -Original Message- From: Anya Stang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 6:47 PM To: J. T.; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) ot - kwaito on vinyl? While I can't answer your question about vinyl releases either, I found some sites on Kwaito which I found interesting, and they might help you with your search... Here are the links: http://www.rage.co.za/kwaito.html http://www.rage.co.za/issue29/kwaito.htm http://www.kwaitomusic.com/ Cheers, Anya From: J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon 28/Jul/2003 16:11 GMT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) ot - kwaito on vinyl? any place on the web where one could listen to samples, maybe a producer name or two ? if South Africans play house like Nigerians played funk in the 70's, kwaito is worth the hunt ! ;-) Gwendal brenda fassie is definitely the biggest name, she's been around for quite awhile now and might be likened to the Madonna of South Africa...apparently she's the niece of N. Mandela! there are definitely soundbites out there, maybe start here..: http://www.rage.co.za/issue43/ and a nice kwaito fansite here: http://www.megweb.uct.ac.za/www/students/RRKROB001/roots.htm supposedly kwaito was/is pretty big in the uk, but still i am finding virtually no vinyl releases... jt __ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application.
RE: (313) Recommendations ? ...
..for more of that sound, i would seek out the new BLOCK 16 EP on balihu. excellent production by daniel wang and brennan green. seconded! got that dubbed out electronic disco sound, it's the shorter lp mix (not the daniel wang/brennan green) that i'm liking as it sounds more raw (percussion like bongos more prominent) and has slightly less of the 'musicality' of the other mix robin...
RE: (313) mesopotamia
My mail server seems to have been severely hiccupping so my replies are all over!!! Sorry if that seemed argumentative, I was simply wrong. I could have sworn that when they played in Baltimore on NYE 2001 it was billed as a home town gig (maybe it was just Fred who was from there)??? Dunno. Tristan don't you mean Athens, Georgia? On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 06:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because it rocks! :) B-52s are from Baltimore, so I doubt there's a tangible [313] connection.
Re: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off
He has the records, he has the skills, why torture us with loop techno this my friend, is what I would call the million dollar question. I remember, a mate of mine, an extremely mad character actually asked him this question once! he got away with it though as he kind of knew him. he never got an answer though _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off
He has the records, he has the skills, why torture us with loop techno this my friend, is what I would call the million dollar question. ok, i'll guess: it's what the kids like. thing is i'm not sure people doare there loads of people who want to go clubbing to that kind of techno now? i know i don't. and it sure as hell puts girls off :) I remember, a mate of mine, an extremely mad character actually asked him this question once! he got away with it though as he kind of knew him. he never got an answer though :) i think i know who you're talkin about...or do i? robin...
RE: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off
Yep, it sells tickets :) |-Original Message- |From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 29 July 2003 11:57 |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Cc: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off | | | | He has the records, he has the skills, why torture us with loop | techno | | this my friend, is what I would call the million dollar question. | |ok, i'll guess: it's what the kids like. | |thing is i'm not sure people doare there loads of people |who want to go clubbing to that kind of techno now? i know i |don't. and it sure as hell puts girls off :) | | I remember, a mate of mine, an extremely mad character |actually asked | him this question once! he got away with it though as he |kind of knew | him. he never got an answer though | |:) i think i know who you're talkin about...or do i? | |robin... |
(313) Remix
Afternoon 313, Dust are looking for someone who'd be interested in remixing one of our tracks, we'll send you the parts and you do the deed - anyone into music here :) The track is a tad on the housey side at the moment... There's no brief and you are free to do as you wish. Contact me of the list for all the parts... Md
Re: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off
Dear Cyclone, You should have seen him at the Movement afterparty, that was great. You just had to see who was dancing to appreciate that. Everyone has good and bad gigs. Sometimes I see my favourite DJs in Sydney and they're never as good as Melbourne and it's made me realise the effect locale can have. I hope hugging people doesn't mean you do or don't validate their music otherwise we're all going to have to retract a lifetime of hugs to lovely people who have terrible records at home. ;) ok, but you just have to understand I was expecting more, hearing a lot of tapes from his early days. Also his mixes from around ´96 - ´97 I really like, so I was just wondering why the change in style? You say that everybody has good and bad gigs, but I think it´s not like he had a bad day and is messing up his mixing, he actually brought a whole crate with loop-techno. I wouldn´t say it is a matter of having a good day or not, it is more a matter of style. And my comment about the hug was a bit stupid, I know. But it was symbolic for the kind of music he would play that night. Have a good day! Cheers, Maarten my musical interests http://www.morthenkiang.com/
RE: (313) Vestax or Technics
Straight up spw, I'd be interested to hear what records you yourself are enjoying at the moment. k As funny and ridiculous as my statement must seem, people would have not made statements like you must play records at normal tempo back in the early to mid '90s when minimal techno was all the rage. Now even Jeff Mills is mellowed out and mid tempo, trends change and a lot of times people here reflect the latest trends like the popularity KDJ and 'soulful house' ect..
(313) DUST update
We've just updated our site with what we are up to and there's a new mix up there that contains music by me so feel free to throw bricks if you wish... Check it out at: http:/www.dustclub.com Martin Dust
Re: (313) Vestax or Technics
on 7/28/03 8:44 PM, Kent williams at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Huckaby, 2 weeks ago: See in the beginning we didn't see no separation between house and techno, it was all the same music. yeah, Chicago house. (oooh that was a good one) after 1990 you started to see a separation I'm sure some people here remember the techno panels at the NMS. I'm sure 10 years ago (would have made it 1993) Sakari was probably mixing D:ream with his favorite band Skinny Puppy. Similarly, when they started making hip hop records in the 70s, they thought they were just making disco their own way, something pointed up perfectly in how Rapper's Delight is Good Times note for note. Good times go-good go-good times go-good go-good times, that's almost a played out trick in turntablism. The Invisible Scratch Pickles can run circles around the best Detroit jocks. DJ Q-Bert makes Jeff Mills look like slow motion.
(313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off video!
Yeah... check or download it @ www.houseblogger.com :D I haven't seen it (completely) yet so I can't judge if Maarten was right about the quality of Derrick's dj-set. R. --- http://www.funxiun.com .dark.elektronix.
Re: (313) ot - kwaito on vinyl?
My friend in SA sent this: 'Nope - that's hundred percent correct. I think some are pressed in Zim, some in Canada, some in Eastern Europe' so that's where all my records came from when i was a kid! - Original Message - From: nicole [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cobert, Gwendal [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: 29 July 2003 10:40 Subject: Re: (313) ot - kwaito on vinyl? If i remember correctly, there is a lot of Kwaito on vinyl - mostly available from House Afrika - I'm sure they have a web site. In terms of artists: Arthur,m'du, Mapaputsi - there's loads. Brothers of Peace umm ...stretching my memory now and not so huge knowledge of kwaito. dunno how the no pressing plant for records plays into this, will ask a friend and let you know. - Original Message - From: Cobert, Gwendal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: 29 July 2003 08:41 Subject: RE: (313) ot - kwaito on vinyl? thanks for the links... must admit I have trouble findings in what way these artists are supposed to be part of the same genre, downloaded the soundclips from kwaitomusic.com and while Labella is some very nice house, I'd put Mandoza or Spencer Hiyo in the RB department... anyway, just moved in in the north of Paris, most of the african community lives there, should have no trouble finding the right record shops ! ;-) Gwendal -Original Message- From: Anya Stang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 6:47 PM To: J. T.; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) ot - kwaito on vinyl? While I can't answer your question about vinyl releases either, I found some sites on Kwaito which I found interesting, and they might help you with your search... Here are the links: http://www.rage.co.za/kwaito.html http://www.rage.co.za/issue29/kwaito.htm http://www.kwaitomusic.com/ Cheers, Anya From: J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon 28/Jul/2003 16:11 GMT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) ot - kwaito on vinyl? any place on the web where one could listen to samples, maybe a producer name or two ? if South Africans play house like Nigerians played funk in the 70's, kwaito is worth the hunt ! ;-) Gwendal brenda fassie is definitely the biggest name, she's been around for quite awhile now and might be likened to the Madonna of South Africa...apparently she's the niece of N. Mandela! there are definitely soundbites out there, maybe start here..: http://www.rage.co.za/issue43/ and a nice kwaito fansite here: http://www.megweb.uct.ac.za/www/students/RRKROB001/roots.htm supposedly kwaito was/is pretty big in the uk, but still i am finding virtually no vinyl releases... jt __ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application.
Re: (313) Vestax or Technics
they were just making disco their own way, something pointed up perfectly in how Rapper's Delight is Good Times note for note. Good times go-good go-good times go-good go-good times, that's almost a played out trick in turntablism. The Invisible Scratch Pickles can run circles around the best Detroit jocks. DJ Q-Bert makes Jeff Mills look like slow motion. see steve, now i know for certain you're trolling. as ken says, it'd be nice to see what music you really enjoy. to see where you're coming from when you post all your criticism of us 30something 80's obssessed trend following 313ers. or post a mix you've doneeither would be good best regards, robin...
Re: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off video!
i think i much prefer zongamin live! downloading both now anyone heard there album as well? my friend Sturmey tipped it, and especially that track 'Double Dostiev' is a true killer! believe me superb eletronic funk - i'll check if it's their set - Original Message - From: Roland van Oorschot [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 2:35 PM Subject: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off video! Yeah... check or download it @ www.houseblogger.com :D I haven't seen it (completely) yet so I can't judge if Maarten was right about the quality of Derrick's dj-set. R. --- http://www.funxiun.com .dark.elektronix.
Re: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off video!
Well, I'm loving the mix, he can come round mine and play this all day long if he wants md 29/7/03 12:35 PM Roland van [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah... check or download it @ www.houseblogger.com :D I haven't seen it (completely) yet so I can't judge if Maarten was right about the quality of Derrick's dj-set. R. --- http://www.funxiun.com .dark.elektronix.
Re: (313) Vestax or Technics
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:05:58 -0500, spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: on 7/28/03 8:44 PM, Kent williams at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good times go-good go-good times go-good go-good times, that's almost a played out trick in turntablism. The Invisible Scratch Pickles can run circles around the best Detroit jocks. DJ Q-Bert makes Jeff Mills look like slow motion. You're talking apples and oranges. Jeff Mills doesn't perform for 7 minutes at a time either. Turntablism isn't about taking people on a journey and so on and so on... -- Benn Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.royaltech.net
RE: (313) Vestax or Technics
This is hilarious! Michael, Matthew, to both of your responses...WELL SAID!!! I too am getting sick of this bait and switch BS. Enough with the elitism SPW...this list is supposed to be about the music..NOT the trends you observe in the various dance music magazines you read. Mad love 313, d$ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 5:43 PM To: spw Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; Matthew MacQueen Subject: Re: (313) Vestax or Technics But there is a difference between being trendy and having your tastes develop along side a developing trend (or shall I say continuum) in music style. sh*t if we didn't develop and move along we'd all be discussing the latest tunes sung on Sesame Street. like I've said before - things change Steve - WAKE UP! it ain't 1991 anymore. I could have sworn you said at one point you were into minimal techno because it was future music - well, follow along (and I do mean follow) MEK spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Matthew MacQueen gy.net [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org cc: 07/28/03 04:02 PMSubject: Re: (313) Vestax or Technics As funny and ridiculous as my statement must seem, people would have not made statements like you must play records at normal tempo back in the early to mid '90s when minimal techno was all the rage. Now even Jeff Mills is mellowed out and mid tempo, trends change and a lot of times people here reflect the latest trends like the popularity KDJ and 'soulful house' ect.. on 7/28/03 3:57 PM, Matthew MacQueen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To be fair, this is a statement that it's trendy now to play records at normal tempo and house music is more trendy than techno at least on this mailing list. People here seem to feed off the vibes of the deephousemusicpage Ha! Steve I always like how you keep us abreast of the latest trends in dance music.. as I can't be bothered much myself to worry if I'm following trends or bucking trends properly or not. I'm too busy finding and playing out the music I like. But if any music or DJ styles I post about fall in or out of trendiness can you please let me know and I'll change accordingly. Best! Matt MacQueen
Re: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off video!
Nope, I like it, great to work to and I could dance like a drunk uncle to it, no sweat. Not everyone's the same, and I'm down with my own taste, I like it but then again I like TG and very early Cabs/DVA stuff :) I can see where Derrick was going with the mix and I like some of his touches. Why not put some of your mixes and/or music up, you can check mine out at: http://www.dustclub.com/downloads.asp Feel free to comment, not that I'll take any notice :) md 29/7/03 1:05 PM Maarten [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, I'm loving the mix, he can come round mine and play this all day long if he wants Well... it gets more interesting after 30 minutes in the recording. But I have to tell you that I ran away after 20 minutes. I mean.. those first 20 miutes come on... Note that there are at least another 20 minutes of music not recorded here. So I was standing at least for 40 minutes wathing the same kind of stuff. Cheers, Maarten
Re: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off video!
Well, I'm loving the mix, he can come round mine and play this all day long if he wants I might have left a tat too early... at 42 minutes: tres demented - demented [ planet e ] w/ vocals rhythm soul grace tendernness ... cravo e canela - new nature [ bombay ] virgo - my space [ trax ] ? (turn it up) john arnold - we´re not [ ubiquity ] He also plays a track he played at DEMF 2000 (just before he played the beginning at demf). Man first he gets me out of the room by playing an hour boring loops, and then he plays one of my all time favourite tracks of all time (virgo)! I could cry right now. And if I would be standing there, I would cry too. Such a beautiful track. Why has the nice music has to come 6 am? Life can be hard, very hard. Cheers, Maarten
Re: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off video!
There you go :) real deep dark back of the brain stuff, turn it up, put your hand in the air and salute the man...av it... md 29/7/03 1:22 PM Maarten [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, I'm loving the mix, he can come round mine and play this all day long if he wants I might have left a tat too early... at 42 minutes: tres demented - demented [ planet e ] w/ vocals rhythm soul grace tendernness ... cravo e canela - new nature [ bombay ] virgo - my space [ trax ] ? (turn it up) john arnold - we´re not [ ubiquity ] He also plays a track he played at DEMF 2000 (just before he played the beginning at demf). Man first he gets me out of the room by playing an hour boring loops, and then he plays one of my all time favourite tracks of all time (virgo)! I could cry right now. And if I would be standing there, I would cry too. Such a beautiful track. Why has the nice music has to come 6 am? Life can be hard, very hard. Cheers, Maarten
RE: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off video!
Isn't this always the case? It's almost a test of faith, to see how much you believe in the dj and how long you'll stick it out for him. You need to at least give a dj like derrick more than an hour ;)!! -Pete -Original Message- From: Maarten Baute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 9:23 AM To: Martin; Roland van Oorschot; 313 Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off video! Well, I'm loving the mix, he can come round mine and play this all day long if he wants I might have left a tat too early... at 42 minutes: tres demented - demented [ planet e ] w/ vocals rhythm soul grace tendernness ... cravo e canela - new nature [ bombay ] virgo - my space [ trax ] ? (turn it up) john arnold - we´re not [ ubiquity ] He also plays a track he played at DEMF 2000 (just before he played the beginning at demf). Man first he gets me out of the room by playing an hour boring loops, and then he plays one of my all time favourite tracks of all time (virgo)! I could cry right now. And if I would be standing there, I would cry too. Such a beautiful track. Why has the nice music has to come 6 am? Life can be hard, very hard. Cheers, Maarten
RE: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off video!
ok ok I think the question is did everyone else leavwe at the same time as you Maarten? you have to understand the masses of people will appreciate this even if you don't, I do but I can understand you frustration but hey its not everyday you get to see Mr May :) -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 July 2003 15:24 To: Maarten Baute; Roland van Oorschot; 313 Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off video! There you go :) real deep dark back of the brain stuff, turn it up, put your hand in the air and salute the man...av it... md 29/7/03 1:22 PM Maarten [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, I'm loving the mix, he can come round mine and play this all day long if he wants I might have left a tat too early... at 42 minutes: tres demented - demented [ planet e ] w/ vocals rhythm soul grace tendernness ... cravo e canela - new nature [ bombay ] virgo - my space [ trax ] ? (turn it up) john arnold - we´re not [ ubiquity ] He also plays a track he played at DEMF 2000 (just before he played the beginning at demf). Man first he gets me out of the room by playing an hour boring loops, and then he plays one of my all time favourite tracks of all time (virgo)! I could cry right now. And if I would be standing there, I would cry too. Such a beautiful track. Why has the nice music has to come 6 am? Life can be hard, very hard. Cheers, Maarten --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 14/07/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 14/07/03
RE: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off video!
Well, I'm loving the mix, he can come round mine and play this all day long if he wants well if you include Lou Vega then you can have them both for 20,000 dollars. ;0) -Original Message- From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 July 2003 14:53 To: 'Maarten Baute'; Martin; Roland van Oorschot; 313 Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off video! Isn't this always the case? It's almost a test of faith, to see how much you believe in the dj and how long you'll stick it out for him. You need to at least give a dj like derrick more than an hour ;)!! -Pete -Original Message- From: Maarten Baute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 9:23 AM To: Martin; Roland van Oorschot; 313 Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off video! Well, I'm loving the mix, he can come round mine and play this all day long if he wants I might have left a tat too early... at 42 minutes: tres demented - demented [ planet e ] w/ vocals rhythm soul grace tendernness ... cravo e canela - new nature [ bombay ] virgo - my space [ trax ] ? (turn it up) john arnold - we´re not [ ubiquity ] He also plays a track he played at DEMF 2000 (just before he played the beginning at demf). Man first he gets me out of the room by playing an hour boring loops, and then he plays one of my all time favourite tracks of all time (virgo)! I could cry right now. And if I would be standing there, I would cry too. Such a beautiful track. Why has the nice music has to come 6 am? Life can be hard, very hard. Cheers, Maarten --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 14/07/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 14/07/03
RE: (313) Technics MK5's
I have had that happen to me on a friends set of 1200's. They are a set from about 10 years ago, and they have only done that once. Technics are Technics...I'll take any set I can get my hands on. Jeff -Original Message- From: Jonny McIntosh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 2:15 PM To: Langsman, Marc; 313 Subject: Re: (313) Technics MK5's I'm not sure if these are the new Technics I used in Liverpool (Scott?) but something very weird happened with the pitch at one point. Basically it started wavering all over the place. When I mixed out, which was like mixing out of a badly drummed disco record, the new record was at about -6, which was not right at all but prior to that I thought I'd maybe had a wee bit too much to drink. I've heard other people have experienced similar things (Tristan?). Personally I'd buy a mkII. J - Original Message - From: Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 10:24 AM Subject: (313) Technics MK5's Didn't know these existed until I saw the posts here today... Has anyone used these badboys yet ? Some 'interesting' sounding features : Stylus Kick Cancel and Anti-Skip [??] Arm-end Scale for Quick Weight Setting [??] High Grade Audio Cable in Arm [do they sound noticeably diff now?] ... I notice theres still no mention of detachable phono cables tho - grr ! Peace, marc -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
Re: (313) ot - kwaito on vinyl?
thanks for all the help nicole... but still have no idea how to get any kwaito on vinyl. House Afrika seems to be only a label, and all i can find is cd's they've put out... gwendal, if you find any shops that carry this stuff, and they do mailorder/online ordering, please lemme know! jt My friend in SA sent this: 'Nope - that's hundred percent correct. I think some are pressed in Zim, some in Canada, some in Eastern Europe' so that's where all my records came from when i was a kid! - Original Message - From: nicole [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cobert, Gwendal [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: 29 July 2003 10:40 Subject: Re: (313) ot - kwaito on vinyl? If i remember correctly, there is a lot of Kwaito on vinyl - mostly available from House Afrika - I'm sure they have a web site. In terms of artists: Arthur,m'du, Mapaputsi - there's loads. Brothers of Peace umm ...stretching my memory now and not so huge knowledge of kwaito. dunno how the no pressing plant for records plays into this, will ask a friend and let you know. - Original Message - From: Cobert, Gwendal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: 29 July 2003 08:41 Subject: RE: (313) ot - kwaito on vinyl? thanks for the links... must admit I have trouble findings in what way these artists are supposed to be part of the same genre, downloaded the soundclips from kwaitomusic.com and while Labella is some very nice house, I'd put Mandoza or Spencer Hiyo in the RB department... anyway, just moved in in the north of Paris, most of the african community lives there, should have no trouble finding the right record shops ! ;-) Gwendal -Original Message- From: Anya Stang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 6:47 PM To: J. T.; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) ot - kwaito on vinyl? While I can't answer your question about vinyl releases either, I found some sites on Kwaito which I found interesting, and they might help you with your search... Here are the links: http://www.rage.co.za/kwaito.html http://www.rage.co.za/issue29/kwaito.htm http://www.kwaitomusic.com/ Cheers, Anya From: J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon 28/Jul/2003 16:11 GMT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) ot - kwaito on vinyl? any place on the web where one could listen to samples, maybe a producer name or two ? if South Africans play house like Nigerians played funk in the 70's, kwaito is worth the hunt ! ;-) Gwendal brenda fassie is definitely the biggest name, she's been around for quite awhile now and might be likened to the Madonna of South Africa...apparently she's the niece of N. Mandela! there are definitely soundbites out there, maybe start here..: http://www.rage.co.za/issue43/ and a nice kwaito fansite here: http://www.megweb.uct.ac.za/www/students/RRKROB001/roots.htm supposedly kwaito was/is pretty big in the uk, but still i am finding virtually no vinyl releases... jt __ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
RE: (313) ot - kwaito on vinyl?
I have a friend who's sending me some. I'll trust his judgement :) I'll errr *cough* mp3's some up and host it on my soulseek account *cough* |-Original Message- |From: J. T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 29 July 2003 15:25 |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; |313@hyperreal.org |Subject: Re: (313) ot - kwaito on vinyl? | | |thanks for all the help nicole... |but still have no idea how to get any kwaito on vinyl. House |Afrika seems to |be only a label, and all i can find is cd's they've put out... |gwendal, if you find any shops that carry this stuff, and they do |mailorder/online ordering, please lemme know! |jt | |My friend in SA sent this: 'Nope - that's hundred percent correct. I |think some are pressed in Zim, some in Canada, some in Eastern Europe' | |so that's where all my records came from when i was a kid! | | | | |- Original Message - |From: nicole [EMAIL PROTECTED] |To: Cobert, Gwendal [EMAIL PROTECTED]; |313@hyperreal.org |Sent: 29 July 2003 10:40 |Subject: Re: (313) ot - kwaito on vinyl? | | | If i remember correctly, there is a lot of Kwaito on vinyl |- mostly | available from House Afrika - I'm sure they have a web site. In | terms of artists: Arthur,m'du, Mapaputsi - there's loads. Brothers |of | Peace umm ...stretching my memory now and not so huge knowledge of |kwaito. | dunno how the no pressing plant for records plays into this, will | ask a friend and let you know. | | | - Original Message - | From: Cobert, Gwendal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: 313@hyperreal.org | Sent: 29 July 2003 08:41 | Subject: RE: (313) ot - kwaito on vinyl? | | | thanks for the links... must admit I have trouble |findings in what | way | these artists are supposed to be part of the same genre, | downloaded |the | soundclips from kwaitomusic.com and while Labella is some very nice |house, | I'd put Mandoza or Spencer Hiyo in the RB department... anyway, | just |moved | in in the north of Paris, most of the african community |lives there, |should | have no trouble finding the right record shops ! ;-) | Gwendal | |-Original Message- |From: Anya Stang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 6:47 PM |To: J. T.; 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: Re: (313) ot - kwaito on vinyl? | | |While I can't answer your question about vinyl |releases either, |I found some sites on Kwaito which I found |interesting, and they |might |help you with your search... |Here are the links: |http://www.rage.co.za/kwaito.html |http://www.rage.co.za/issue29/kwaito.htm |http://www.kwaitomusic.com/ | |Cheers, | |Anya | | From: J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Date: Mon 28/Jul/2003 16:11 GMT | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org | Subject: RE: (313) ot - kwaito on vinyl? | | any place on the web where one could listen to samples, |maybe a producer | name or two ? if South Africans play house like Nigerians |played funk in | the 70's, kwaito is worth the hunt ! ;-) | Gwendal | | brenda fassie is definitely the biggest name, she's been |around for quite | awhile now and might be likened to the Madonna of South |Africa...apparently | she's the niece of N. Mandela! | | there are definitely soundbites out there, maybe |start here..: | http://www.rage.co.za/issue43/ | | and a nice kwaito fansite here: | http://www.megweb.uct.ac.za/www/students/RRKROB001/roots.htm | | supposedly kwaito was/is pretty big in the uk, but still i |am finding | virtually no vinyl releases... | | jt | |__ | |Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ | |Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association |awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. | | | | | |_ |Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* |http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail |
RE: (313) Technics MK5's
At a guess, the pots that control the voltages for the pitch might have been coroded or loose giving a poor connection which could cause inconsistant voltage and hence speed for the slider. I think replacing the sliders would include the pots fixing the problem. Quest -Original Message- From: FC2 Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 July 2003 8:22 AM To: 'Jonny McIntosh'; Langsman, Marc; 313 Subject: RE: (313) Technics MK5's I have had that happen to me on a friends set of 1200's. They are a set from about 10 years ago, and they have only done that once. Technics are Technics...I'll take any set I can get my hands on. Jeff -Original Message- From: Jonny McIntosh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 2:15 PM To: Langsman, Marc; 313 Subject: Re: (313) Technics MK5's I'm not sure if these are the new Technics I used in Liverpool (Scott?) but something very weird happened with the pitch at one point. Basically it started wavering all over the place. When I mixed out, which was like mixing out of a badly drummed disco record, the new record was at about -6, which was not right at all but prior to that I thought I'd maybe had a wee bit too much to drink. I've heard other people have experienced similar things (Tristan?). Personally I'd buy a mkII. J - Original Message - From: Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 10:24 AM Subject: (313) Technics MK5's Didn't know these existed until I saw the posts here today... Has anyone used these badboys yet ? Some 'interesting' sounding features : Stylus Kick Cancel and Anti-Skip [??] Arm-end Scale for Quick Weight Setting [??] High Grade Audio Cable in Arm [do they sound noticeably diff now?] ... I notice theres still no mention of detachable phono cables tho - grr ! Peace, marc -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
Re: (313) RE: Vestax or Technics
You know I heard that Vestax is working on that sideways pitch thing... er just to bring it back to the original discussion. ;) MEK Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED], com David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org 07/29/03 04:21 AMSubject: Re: (313) RE: Vestax or Technics Come on guys, does it really matter if you pitch up, down or sideways - techno is about innovation not BPM. md 29/7/03 8:17 AM Sakari [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Powers wrote on Mon, 28 Jul 2003 about following: buy techno records that exceed 130 bpm, does this limit your buying with a Detroit feel. I can't imagine having that as my upper BPM limit really! i never said 130 is the upper limit. i said classic techno goes 130+ which obviously means it goes above that. and i said below 140 bpm for the good stuff, regarding the rave records. oh and David, you noticed it was private mail, not list mail, just like your mail i replied to, but since you brought this back to the list i'll keep it CC'd, although, i think it's time to let this discussion go; i've said what i have to say about it already. sakke
Re: (313) RE: Vestax or Technics
It's already there on the new ones, pitch bend a go go... You know I heard that Vestax is working on that sideways pitch thing... er just to bring it back to the original discussion. ;) MEK Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED], com David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org 07/29/03 04:21 AMSubject: Re: (313) RE: Vestax or Technics Come on guys, does it really matter if you pitch up, down or sideways - techno is about innovation not BPM. md 29/7/03 8:17 AM Sakari [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Powers wrote on Mon, 28 Jul 2003 about following: buy techno records that exceed 130 bpm, does this limit your buying with a Detroit feel. I can't imagine having that as my upper BPM limit really! i never said 130 is the upper limit. i said classic techno goes 130+ which obviously means it goes above that. and i said below 140 bpm for the good stuff, regarding the rave records. oh and David, you noticed it was private mail, not list mail, just like your mail i replied to, but since you brought this back to the list i'll keep it CC'd, although, i think it's time to let this discussion go; i've said what i have to say about it already. sakke
RE: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off video!
In the herbert part 2, about 59 minutes in - what did he do to break everything? :) |-Original Message- |From: ian cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 29 July 2003 14:57 |To: Grammenos, Peter; 'Maarten Baute'; Martin; Roland van Oorschot; 313 |Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off video! | | | Well, I'm loving the mix, he can come round mine and play |this all day |long if he wants | |well if you include Lou Vega then you can have them both for |20,000 dollars. ;0) | |-Original Message- |From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 29 July 2003 14:53 |To: 'Maarten Baute'; Martin; Roland van Oorschot; 313 |Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off video! | | | |Isn't this always the case? It's almost a test of faith, to |see how much you believe in the dj and how long you'll stick |it out for him. | |You need to at least give a dj like derrick more than an hour ;)!! | |-Pete | |-Original Message- |From: Maarten Baute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 9:23 AM |To: Martin; Roland van Oorschot; 313 |Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off video! | | | Well, I'm loving the mix, he can come round mine and play |this all day |long | if he wants | |I might have left a tat too early... | |at 42 minutes: | |tres demented - demented [ planet e ] |w/ vocals rhythm soul grace tendernness ... |cravo e canela - new nature [ bombay ] |virgo - my space [ trax ] |? (turn it up) |john arnold - we´re not [ ubiquity ] | |He also plays a track he played at DEMF 2000 (just before he |played the beginning at demf). | |Man first he gets me out of the room by playing an hour |boring loops, and then he plays one of my all time favourite |tracks of all time (virgo)! I could cry right now. And if I |would be standing there, I would cry too. Such a beautiful track. | |Why has the nice music has to come 6 am? | |Life can be hard, very hard. | |Cheers, |Maarten |--- |Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. |Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). |Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 14/07/03 | |--- |Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. |Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). |Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 14/07/03 |
Re: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off
But then the nightmare began. He played boring clubtrack after the other... it was uninspiring.. nothing special.. Aahh Maarten - I feel for you man. Didn't you say that this was the first time you saw him live(?) and you know practically every mix available by him too. Damn, that sucks. Well, he has been known to throw it down so maybe next time he swings into town or if you can make it to Movement 04 you'll get to hear/see/feel a proper Derrick May mix. MEK
Re: (313) RE: Vestax or Technics
joke gone poof Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org, David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sakari Karipuro 07/29/03 11:21 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) RE: Vestax or Technics It's already there on the new ones, pitch bend a go go... You know I heard that Vestax is working on that sideways pitch thing... er just to bring it back to the original discussion. ;) MEK Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED], com David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org 07/29/03 04:21 AMSubject: Re: (313) RE: Vestax or Technics Come on guys, does it really matter if you pitch up, down or sideways - techno is about innovation not BPM. md 29/7/03 8:17 AM Sakari [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Powers wrote on Mon, 28 Jul 2003 about following: buy techno records that exceed 130 bpm, does this limit your buying with a Detroit feel. I can't imagine having that as my upper BPM limit really! i never said 130 is the upper limit. i said classic techno goes 130+ which obviously means it goes above that. and i said below 140 bpm for the good stuff, regarding the rave records. oh and David, you noticed it was private mail, not list mail, just like your mail i replied to, but since you brought this back to the list i'll keep it CC'd, although, i think it's time to let this discussion go; i've said what i have to say about it already. sakke
RE: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off
totally agree, also his set off Groovetech is one of my favs, I love it. I didn't get to see him with FK at the after party but I know where my money will next year :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 July 2003 16:31 To: Maarten Baute Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off But then the nightmare began. He played boring clubtrack after the other... it was uninspiring.. nothing special.. Aahh Maarten - I feel for you man. Didn't you say that this was the first time you saw him live(?) and you know practically every mix available by him too. Damn, that sucks. Well, he has been known to throw it down so maybe next time he swings into town or if you can make it to Movement 04 you'll get to hear/see/feel a proper Derrick May mix. MEK --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 14/07/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 14/07/03
Re: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off
check the one on my site, i almost have all the sets he played here in Istanbul, but this one is very special. also his set on 1999 NYE, wow 5hrs of lecture! www.pinkthursdays.com or the link mms://audio.pinkthursdays.com/streaming/gs.wma Mehmet (mr. pink) mk03 - Original Message - From: ian cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 6:38 PM Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off totally agree, also his set off Groovetech is one of my favs, I love it. I didn't get to see him with FK at the after party but I know where my money will next year :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 July 2003 16:31 To: Maarten Baute Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off But then the nightmare began. He played boring clubtrack after the other... it was uninspiring.. nothing special.. Aahh Maarten - I feel for you man. Didn't you say that this was the first time you saw him live(?) and you know practically every mix available by him too. Damn, that sucks. Well, he has been known to throw it down so maybe next time he swings into town or if you can make it to Movement 04 you'll get to hear/see/feel a proper Derrick May mix. MEK --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 14/07/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 14/07/03
(313) Getting off Vestax Technics but along the same lines of
ever been to a club and had different decks? it happened to me and man I think it really does throw you, I mean lets be honest to have 2 x technics 1 vestax is kinda weird cos you get used to the technics then go to the vestax only the touch is different. I know they have the joysticks but this didn't. also they just don't seem to stay in for long like the technics do, or is it me? Plus this joystick thing what exactly does it do? does it help get in it better (sorry bad english and double meaning there :) - instead of the very sensitive pitcher? :) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 14/07/03
(313) m u s i c
a few things that float my boat at the mo: Andres - Salvador de bahia - mahogani Four blinding tracks on this. The salvador de bahia side has two mixes which are both goodslow detroit house with a kind of early techno synth line (think juan's the chase) to spice it up. i've been annoying the neighbours with this all weekend...the other side has another house track that sounds like KDJ/rick wade at their best and then another track with what sounds like the sample from one of the purposemakers (in the bush?) running through ittotal class Natural Aspirations - Sound Signature 18 Theo's latest, go to the 'friendly children' side for a brilliant african chanting style house cut, along the lines of 'sawala' on ss10 but more housed upthe track is long but progresses nicely all the way throughbrill bassline comes in 1/3 the way through can't wait to hear this on a big system. other stuff: busta rhymes - danger/rub - muck cheeky boot broken/beaty thing with nice analogue bassline and busta doing his thang on the top...there's a dub too if you don't need the mc. only child ft amp fiddler the sound of the summer for me...i banged on about this earlier on this week but boy do i like the vocal on that... fix my chic - tapehead again a bootythree tracks. fix my sink/good timescoulda done this better (more of the bassline needed), washing machine/riton 'take control' which is wicked but the highlight for me is MAWs work over the hawtin mix of le funk mob (if anyone can fix me up with the original le funk mob 2x10 then shout)brilliant block 16 - balihu14 the original lp mix does it for meagain posted earlier on this week about this ok what stuff are you lot listening to? robin...
Re: (313) m u s i c
This is rocking my fc uk stack at the moment... http://www.ruben.fm/dizzee/ Best thing to happen in the UK for a while... md 29/7/03 3:55 PM robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] a few things that float my boat at the mo: Andres - Salvador de bahia - mahogani Four blinding tracks on this. The salvador de bahia side has two mixes which are both goodslow detroit house with a kind of early techno synth line (think juan's the chase) to spice it up. i've been annoying the neighbours with this all weekend...the other side has another house track that sounds like KDJ/rick wade at their best and then another track with what sounds like the sample from one of the purposemakers (in the bush?) running through ittotal class Natural Aspirations - Sound Signature 18 Theo's latest, go to the 'friendly children' side for a brilliant african chanting style house cut, along the lines of 'sawala' on ss10 but more housed upthe track is long but progresses nicely all the way throughbrill bassline comes in 1/3 the way through can't wait to hear this on a big system. other stuff: busta rhymes - danger/rub - muck cheeky boot broken/beaty thing with nice analogue bassline and busta doing his thang on the top...there's a dub too if you don't need the mc. only child ft amp fiddler the sound of the summer for me...i banged on about this earlier on this week but boy do i like the vocal on that... fix my chic - tapehead again a bootythree tracks. fix my sink/good timescoulda done this better (more of the bassline needed), washing machine/riton 'take control' which is wicked but the highlight for me is MAWs work over the hawtin mix of le funk mob (if anyone can fix me up with the original le funk mob 2x10 then shout)brilliant block 16 - balihu14 the original lp mix does it for meagain posted earlier on this week about this ok what stuff are you lot listening to? robin...
RE: (313) m u s i c
PHP 004 - Soulphiction - Get the Point! Paul's Musique's sublabel, Deep Detroit House, founded in 2000, based in Stuttgart, Germany. Great kdj/moodyman meets perlon tracks. Pepe Braddock - Atavisme His tracks never dissapoint, this is a new one, I really like Intrusion Moodyman - Silence in the secret garden Damn damn damn -Pete -Original Message- From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:55 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) m u s i c a few things that float my boat at the mo: Andres - Salvador de bahia - mahogani Four blinding tracks on this. The salvador de bahia side has two mixes which are both goodslow detroit house with a kind of early techno synth line (think juan's the chase) to spice it up. i've been annoying the neighbours with this all weekend...the other side has another house track that sounds like KDJ/rick wade at their best and then another track with what sounds like the sample from one of the purposemakers (in the bush?) running through ittotal class Natural Aspirations - Sound Signature 18 Theo's latest, go to the 'friendly children' side for a brilliant african chanting style house cut, along the lines of 'sawala' on ss10 but more housed upthe track is long but progresses nicely all the way throughbrill bassline comes in 1/3 the way through can't wait to hear this on a big system. other stuff: busta rhymes - danger/rub - muck cheeky boot broken/beaty thing with nice analogue bassline and busta doing his thang on the top...there's a dub too if you don't need the mc. only child ft amp fiddler the sound of the summer for me...i banged on about this earlier on this week but boy do i like the vocal on that... fix my chic - tapehead again a bootythree tracks. fix my sink/good timescoulda done this better (more of the bassline needed), washing machine/riton 'take control' which is wicked but the highlight for me is MAWs work over the hawtin mix of le funk mob (if anyone can fix me up with the original le funk mob 2x10 then shout)brilliant block 16 - balihu14 the original lp mix does it for meagain posted earlier on this week about this ok what stuff are you lot listening to? robin...
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ok what stuff are you lot listening to?' Marvin Dash - Fine Time (united states of mars). so anyone know more about this guy? Sean Escoffery - some white label double pack with Todd Terry mixes Motown box set single collection 1959-71 at this very moment The Durutti Column - Domo Arigato CD Yellowman - some 45 on Spider-man records that my boss just gave to me with a stack of other 45s - if anyone knows anything about this label (Spider-man) please contact me off-list. The blue ink in which the title of the tracks is printed in rubs off very easily onto your fingers so I know it's got to be real roots. Paul Mac - Pushcametoshove LP (Primate) United Future Organization - Bon Voyage Abstract Thought - Hypothetical Situations LP MEK
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PHP 004 - Soulphiction - Get the Point! Paul's Musique's sublabel, Deep Detroit House, founded in 2000, based in Stuttgart, Germany. Great kdj/moodyman meets perlon tracks. i've seen that around...need to give that a listen Pepe Braddock - Atavisme His tracks never dissapoint, this is a new one, I really like Intrusion i picked this up and boy is that intrusion track heavydoes wierd things to your inside when played at proper volumesamazing robin...
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Yello magic orchestra Why? Themselves / Anticon Antipop Consortium Prefuse 73 and Bruch - Violin Concerto mvmt 1-3 I shouldn't be on this list should i? :) |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 29 July 2003 17:09 |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Cc: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: Re: (313) m u s i c | | | | | | |ok what stuff are you lot listening to?' | |Marvin Dash - Fine Time (united states of mars). so anyone |know more about this guy? | |Sean Escoffery - some white label double pack with Todd Terry mixes | |Motown box set single collection 1959-71 at this very moment | |The Durutti Column - Domo Arigato CD | |Yellowman - some 45 on Spider-man records that my boss just |gave to me with a stack of other 45s - if anyone knows |anything about this label |(Spider-man) please contact me off-list. The blue ink in which |the title of the tracks is printed in rubs off very easily |onto your fingers so I know it's got to be real roots. | |Paul Mac - Pushcametoshove LP (Primate) | |United Future Organization - Bon Voyage | |Abstract Thought - Hypothetical Situations LP | |MEK | | |
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Apart from theo and Andres.. Got my hands on a new Luke Vibert 12 on warp records .. 'I love acid' funky breaky beaty thing..115-120 bpm wikked acid line vocodered voice, top lyrics about a tb303 romance.. (well I would say that wouldn't i) Placid -- http://www.acid-house.net Everything you wanted to know about acid house ... On 29/7/03 5:07 pm, Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PHP 004 - Soulphiction - Get the Point! Paul's Musique's sublabel, Deep Detroit House, founded in 2000, based in Stuttgart, Germany. Great kdj/moodyman meets perlon tracks. Pepe Braddock - Atavisme His tracks never dissapoint, this is a new one, I really like Intrusion Moodyman - Silence in the secret garden Damn damn damn -Pete -Original Message- From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:55 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) m u s i c a few things that float my boat at the mo: Andres - Salvador de bahia - mahogani Four blinding tracks on this. The salvador de bahia side has two mixes which are both goodslow detroit house with a kind of early techno synth line (think juan's the chase) to spice it up. i've been annoying the neighbours with this all weekend...the other side has another house track that sounds like KDJ/rick wade at their best and then another track with what sounds like the sample from one of the purposemakers (in the bush?) running through ittotal class Natural Aspirations - Sound Signature 18 Theo's latest, go to the 'friendly children' side for a brilliant african chanting style house cut, along the lines of 'sawala' on ss10 but more housed upthe track is long but progresses nicely all the way throughbrill bassline comes in 1/3 the way through can't wait to hear this on a big system. other stuff: busta rhymes - danger/rub - muck cheeky boot broken/beaty thing with nice analogue bassline and busta doing his thang on the top...there's a dub too if you don't need the mc. only child ft amp fiddler the sound of the summer for me...i banged on about this earlier on this week but boy do i like the vocal on that... fix my chic - tapehead again a bootythree tracks. fix my sink/good timescoulda done this better (more of the bassline needed), washing machine/riton 'take control' which is wicked but the highlight for me is MAWs work over the hawtin mix of le funk mob (if anyone can fix me up with the original le funk mob 2x10 then shout)brilliant block 16 - balihu14 the original lp mix does it for meagain posted earlier on this week about this ok what stuff are you lot listening to? robin...
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Abstract Thought - Hypothetical Situations LP I haven't been able to find this anywhere. Any UK people seen it in the shops?
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Dan Curtin Distort.Archive.Desire (downlow) I haven't bought a Dan Curtin record since his album on Sublime and this is a real return to form. That frenetic, but funky as you like drum programming, weird jazzy melodies, gorgeous warm basslines. It's just ace, ace, ace. KIM Flores Monstrosi (Tigersushi) There's a handy Psychic TV track on the flip but it's the KIM track for me. I'm guessing it's a Krautrock thing - I recognise the Ghormengast studio, maybe Conny Plank's? - but it wouldn't be out of place on old Plastikman b-side, stripped down to just a beat, a bassline and eerie reverb. Krikor Pas De Norm (Karat) Like Akufen but less frantic, and more of a natural groove to me. Anthony Shakir's been playing it a lot and it was a highlight for me when I heard him. Static-ey hi hats, stolen strings and a vocoded voice saying bass. What more do you want? Plus I scored copies of Ultradyne's E-Coli and ...Is Evil releases. Wicked.
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-- Original Message -- From: Jonny McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Krikor Pas De Norm (Karat) Like Akufen but less frantic, and more of a natural groove to me. Anthony Shakir's been playing it a lot and it was a highlight for me when I heard him. Static-ey hi hats, stolen strings and a vocoded voice saying bass. What more do you want? i finally picked that up myself. what a tune. i brought it into M7 the other day and heads were feeling it. tom andythepooh.com
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in case anyone wants to hear this i've found some sound clips of this at http://www.decks-records.com/ do a search for karat r -- Original Message -- From: Jonny McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Krikor Pas De Norm (Karat) Like Akufen but less frantic, and more of a natural groove to me. Anthony Shakir's been playing it a lot and it was a highlight for me when I heard him. Static-ey hi hats, stolen strings and a vocoded voice saying bass. What more do you want? i finally picked that up myself. what a tune. i brought it into M7 the other day and heads were feeling it. tom andythepooh.com
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Apart from theo and Andres.. Got my hands on a new Luke Vibert 12 on warp records .. 'I love acid' funky breaky beaty thing..115-120 bpm wikked acid line vocodered voice, top lyrics about a tb303 romance.. (well I would say that wouldn't i) Placid -- www.acid-house.net Everything you wanted to know about acid house ... On 29/7/03 5:07 pm, Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PHP 004 - Soulphiction - Get the Point! Paul's Musique's sublabel, Deep Detroit House, founded in 2000, based in Stuttgart, Germany. Great kdj/moodyman meets perlon tracks. Pepe Braddock - Atavisme His tracks never dissapoint, this is a new one, I really like Intrusion Moodyman - Silence in the secret garden Damn damn damn -Pete -Original Message- From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:55 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) m u s i c a few things that float my boat at the mo: Andres - Salvador de bahia - mahogani Four blinding tracks on this. The salvador de bahia side has two mixes which are both goodslow detroit house with a kind of early techno synth line (think juan's the chase) to spice it up. i've been annoying the neighbours with this all weekend...the other side has another house track that sounds like KDJ/rick wade at their best and then another track with what sounds like the sample from one of the purposemakers (in the bush?) running through ittotal class Natural Aspirations - Sound Signature 18 Theo's latest, go to the 'friendly children' side for a brilliant african chanting style house cut, along the lines of 'sawala' on ss10 but more housed upthe track is long but progresses nicely all the way throughbrill bassline comes in 1/3 the way through can't wait to hear this on a big system. other stuff: busta rhymes - danger/rub - muck cheeky boot broken/beaty thing with nice analogue bassline and busta doing his thang on the top...there's a dub too if you don't need the mc. only child ft amp fiddler the sound of the summer for me...i banged on about this earlier on this week but boy do i like the vocal on that... fix my chic - tapehead again a bootythree tracks. fix my sink/good timescoulda done this better (more of the bassline needed), washing machine/riton 'take control' which is wicked but the highlight for me is MAWs work over the hawtin mix of le funk mob (if anyone can fix me up with the original le funk mob 2x10 then shout)brilliant block 16 - balihu14 the original lp mix does it for meagain posted earlier on this week about this ok what stuff are you lot listening to? robin...
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-- Original Message -- From: Placid [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apart from theo and Andres.. which theo? and when did that new andres on mahogani drop? tom andythepooh.com
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both dropped last week (in the uk)...the theo is ss18 (Natural Aspirations) robin... -- Original Message -- From: Placid [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apart from theo and Andres.. which theo? and when did that new andres on mahogani drop?
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reasons to be cheerful. in no order... 1) Sound Signature 018. My towerblock is shaking to this. 2) K.Tatham Dego - You got me puzzled. I know, a little old, but one of the finest moments of UK techno in years. 3) Dan Curtain on Downlow - my copy came! and its as good as you all said! 4) Jon Slocum on mout. Dunno who this is, but the B-side is on it. 5 ) MOS001 - Hm, more quality dutch business 6) Iridite records - dope uk s**t. in general. 7) That Frictional thing w/ pink label. Shake's side though 8) a few cheeky bits on my hard drive. You'll have to wait. 9) Andres on Mahogani 10) New Alfie LP (sept. release) sorry to be a bit boring, but I haven't come across anything obscure in a while _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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Apart from theo and Andres.. Got my hands on a new Luke Vibert 12 on warp records .. 'I love acid' funky breaky beaty thing..115-120 bpm wikked acid line vocodered voice, top lyrics about a tb303 romance.. (well I would say that wouldn't i) Placid -- On 29/7/03 5:07 pm, Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PHP 004 - Soulphiction - Get the Point! Paul's Musique's sublabel, Deep Detroit House, founded in 2000, based in Stuttgart, Germany. Great kdj/moodyman meets perlon tracks. Pepe Braddock - Atavisme His tracks never dissapoint, this is a new one, I really like Intrusion Moodyman - Silence in the secret garden Damn damn damn -Pete -Original Message- From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:55 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) m u s i c a few things that float my boat at the mo: Andres - Salvador de bahia - mahogani Four blinding tracks on this. The salvador de bahia side has two mixes which are both goodslow detroit house with a kind of early techno synth line (think juan's the chase) to spice it up. i've been annoying the neighbours with this all weekend...the other side has another house track that sounds like KDJ/rick wade at their best and then another track with what sounds like the sample from one of the purposemakers (in the bush?) running through ittotal class Natural Aspirations - Sound Signature 18 Theo's latest, go to the 'friendly children' side for a brilliant african chanting style house cut, along the lines of 'sawala' on ss10 but more housed upthe track is long but progresses nicely all the way throughbrill bassline comes in 1/3 the way through can't wait to hear this on a big system. other stuff: busta rhymes - danger/rub - muck cheeky boot broken/beaty thing with nice analogue bassline and busta doing his thang on the top...there's a dub too if you don't need the mc. only child ft amp fiddler the sound of the summer for me...i banged on about this earlier on this week but boy do i like the vocal on that... fix my chic - tapehead again a bootythree tracks. fix my sink/good timescoulda done this better (more of the bassline needed), washing machine/riton 'take control' which is wicked but the highlight for me is MAWs work over the hawtin mix of le funk mob (if anyone can fix me up with the original le funk mob 2x10 then shout)brilliant block 16 - balihu14 the original lp mix does it for meagain posted earlier on this week about this ok what stuff are you lot listening to? robin...
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KIM Flores Monstrosi (Tigersushi) There's a handy Psychic TV track on the flip but it's the KIM track for me. I'm guessing it's a Krautrock thing - I recognise the Ghormengast studio, maybe Conny Plank's? - but it wouldn't be out of place on old Plastikman b-side, stripped down to just a beat, a bassline and eerie reverb. PG I picked this up last night @ sonic groove, f*ing wicked, it's the first track on a mix I made last night.
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-- Original Message -- From: robin pinning [EMAIL PROTECTED] both dropped last week (in the uk)...the theo is ss18 (Natural Aspirations) ah, ive had that theo on white label for a couple months now. i actually played it on friday night, people were feeling that as well : ) tom andythepooh.com
(313) OT: reggae ?rare? record
sorry for the OT but I figured someone here knows more than I do when it comes to this as I mentioned before I was given a Yellowman 45rpm on Spider-man records I don't remember the title but I'm looking for info on the label anything would be great thanks MEK
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29/7/03 5:06 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED]@fallon.com Spider-man records It's an old DanceHall label - is it called Shorties? Md
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ok what stuff are you lot listening to? Geoff White - Nevertheless Codec Flexor - Tubed Archae Grovskopa - Cymatics ep Rumenige feat. Loktibrada - Petrzalka ep Moodyman - Silence In The Secret Garden Thomas Brinkmann - Tina It Was Never You Jacek Sienkiewicz - The Evidence Heiko Laux - Still Lively Dave Brubeck - The Very Best Carl Craig - Landcruising British Murder Boys aka Surgeon Regis, live at Tresor 7.12.03 and a recent mix of my own
Re: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off
Well... some of the most memorable dj sets I ever heard are from Derrick May. I recall his Live @ Fuse ´99 wich is circulating as 2 mp3´s on soulseek / winmx etc... 2.5 hours of great music, not a bad track in sight. Every single track is something special and mixed in a way only Derrick can. Also the set on groovetech wich was recorded at the DEMF in 2000 was great. Again, all good and very original tracks. Ofcourse, let´s not forget his Mayday mix from 97, wich is very good and quite funny to listen to. On deephousepage.com there is a mix of his from his days at the music institute. And what a mix it was. A selection of the best chicago house and detroit techno records of that time. Too bad it turned out differently last night. Van: ian cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] totally agree, also his set off Groovetech is one of my favs, I love it. I didn't get to see him with FK at the after party but I know where my money will next year :) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aahh Maarten - I feel for you man. Didn't you say that this was the first time you saw him live(?) and you know practically every mix available by him too. Damn, that sucks. Well, he has been known to throw it down so maybe next time he swings into town or if you can make it to Movement 04 you'll get to hear/see/feel a proper Derrick May mix. Cheers, Maarten --- my musical interests http://www.morthenkiang.com/
Re: (313) Carl Craig in Leeds
- Original Message - From: Robin Howells [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 11:48 PM Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig in Leeds [*including tres demented, which, if i remember correctly (which is not that likely) came in for another rather lukewarm response on this list. i find this a bit baffling too. to me it sounds like the most perfectly constructed dance record i've heard in a long time.] Yeah, he played two mixes of it in London. Both went down well, although I thought the vocal one was a bit more destructive. He also played Desire, which sounded amazing on the Plastic People sound system. Tristan === Text/Mixes/Pics: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Haven't bought anything since the beginning of June other than the new Pepe, Tres Demented, and I finally found Ten Days of Blue on Vinyl, but here's my current top 10: 1. DJ Gregory - Attend 1 - Kitsune (yeah, I know I'm late on this one, but come on!) 2. Pal Joey - Thong Test - Loop d' Loop Records (actually prefer the B side) 3. Moodymann - Silence in the Secret Garden - Peacefrog 4. Tread - Tread 3 - Third Ear 5. Amp Fiddler - Love and War EP - Genuine/PIAS Recordings 6. Rima - This World - Jazzanova-Compost Records 7. Oxtongue - Delight - Kompakt Pop 8. Reunion - Strange Attention (Seiji Remix) - Sonar Kollektiv 9. Tres Demented - Tres Demented - Planet E 10. Jay Dee - Unreleased Volume 1 - The Bling 47 Group Oh and Wire to Wire is very nice. The new Ghostly comp has its moments too. And I love that Madlib version of Donald Byrd on Blue Note. Haven't heard the album yet though. I really need to buy some new records... :/ Tristan === Text/Mixes/Pics: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Numark or Technics
All of you are on this Vestax trip... Vestax are a piece of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Numark TTX1 that's a whole nother story. Believe me I just bought a pair less than 4 months ago. It was a tough choice because I was going to wait and get a pair of Technics SL-1210M5G. I have played on both and find the Numark way tighter easier to handle and more stable on the pitch. Vestax Tables feel like toys.
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Give it time Numark's circuitry/wiring has always been total crap in my experience. As you said, you bought them less than four months ago - give a year or so before you make any judgement calls I've owned a Numark mixer as well has one of my friends and both of them have shoddy wiring. My friend has his Numark mixer attached to the front of the table his turntables are on. One day I was over at his place playing some new vinyl for him. I bent down to pull a record out of my bag and when I came back up my head hit the underside of the mixer. The damn thing went dead. All sound cut out. We stood there looking at each other like what the f*ck? He proceeded to hit all the kill buttons on and off, bring the volume up all the way, test the cross-fade, etc. Nothing worked. So he did the only thing left that there was to do - he slapped the bottom of the mixer with his hand and - voila! the sound came back on. My mixer had a problem with noise slowly seeping in so I sent it back to the company since it was still under warranty. They sent it back eventually - with all the dials stuck back on wrong, they did fix the punch-out buttons that broke the first day I had the mixer, and stuck a new piece of glass on the LED read out where the old one had come off (I had the mixer for about a year only used in my living room). Well, since the biggest problem was the noise (imagine white noise slowly coming over your records until you couldn't really hear the music anymore), everything else was just icing on the cake. The noise was gone for about a day and a half after I got it back from the Numark factory repair. Then it came back. I'd never buy another Numark product. I would have waited for the Technics - most people don't notice a slight waver of pitch when they hear music on a big sound system MEK Javier Drada [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org hlink.net cc: Subject: (313) Numark or Technics 07/29/03 12:02 PM All of you are on this Vestax trip... Vestax are a piece of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Numark TTX1 that's a whole nother story. Believe me I just bought a pair less than 4 months ago. It was a tough choice because I was going to wait and get a pair of Technics SL-1210M5G. I have played on both and find the Numark way tighter easier to handle and more stable on the pitch. Vestax Tables feel like toys.
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Plus this joystick thing what exactly does it do? does it help get in it better (sorry bad english and double meaning there :) - instead of the very sensitive pitcher? :) I believe the joystick allows you to *push* and *pull* the record without touching the record/platter.
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ok what stuff are you lot listening to? Music Box Vol.s 1 - 4
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- Original Message - From: Mark S. Krüx [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 9:02 PM Subject: Re: (313) Getting off Vestax Technics but along the same lines of Plus this joystick thing what exactly does it do? does it help get in it better (sorry bad english and double meaning there :) - instead of the very sensitive pitcher? :) I believe the joystick allows you to *push* and *pull* the record without touching the record/platter. Sounds like a cool feature to me. Similar to the old plus/minus buttons on the Denon CD players before they had a wheel. But I bet this will actually be precise. :) Tristan === Text/Mixes/Pics: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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So anyone notice any gear brands/models at Movement just to bring this back around to a 313 relevance? I'm sure most decks were techics but what about mixers or CD players? MEK Mark S. Krüx [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313 313@hyperreal.org udios.com cc: Subject: Re: (313) Getting off Vestax Technics but 07/29/03 03:02 PM along the same lines of Plus this joystick thing what exactly does it do? does it help get in it better (sorry bad english and double meaning there :) - instead of the very sensitive pitcher? :) I believe the joystick allows you to *push* and *pull* the record without touching the record/platter.
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Phonopsia wrote on Tue, 29 Jul 2003 about following: I believe the joystick allows you to *push* and *pull* the record without Sounds like a cool feature to me. Similar to the old plus/minus buttons on the Denon CD players before they had a wheel. those buttons where horrible to use. the wheel is much more easier to handle :) sakke -- Timing must be perfect now. Two-timing must be better than perfect. http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/
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I'd be careful to write off all Numark stuffs. My old Numark, the DM1800MX I think it was, lasted about 8 years, and was still quite usable, if dirty sounding when I sold it. The pots got crappy after a while, but nothing wrong with the circuitry or the wiring that I could tell. I also gigged with it a fair amount. Traxx said he still uses this mixer at home, and I know others that got lots of miles out of it. At the time, it was a relatively high-end mixer, and it wasn't until a few years later that their quality turned south, as they changed their focus to budget products. As this new turntable is a high-end device for them in contrast to their utterly appauling budget units (*ahem* Kent :), I'd bet the quality will be better (although I wouldn't take the chance myself until I've seen the long-term reviews - as you said). However, this is not the first glowing review I've seen of them. I can understand the temptation and wouldn't write them off based on their sh*tty reputation from the late '90s onwards. Tristan === Text/Mixes/Pics: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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i'm really digging on the teo moritz LP, avenue. it's off of the superhuit label[france]. wonderfully produced deep house and downtempo. think of moodymann's more floor-friendly trax. cheers, lrh From: robin pinning [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/07/29 Tue AM 11:55:11 EDT To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) m u s i c a few things that float my boat at the mo: Andres - Salvador de bahia - mahogani Four blinding tracks on this. The salvador de bahia side has two mixes which are both goodslow detroit house with a kind of early techno synth line (think juan's the chase) to spice it up. i've been annoying the neighbours with this all weekend...the other side has another house track that sounds like KDJ/rick wade at their best and then another track with what sounds like the sample from one of the purposemakers (in the bush?) running through ittotal class Natural Aspirations - Sound Signature 18 Theo's latest, go to the 'friendly children' side for a brilliant african chanting style house cut, along the lines of 'sawala' on ss10 but more housed upthe track is long but progresses nicely all the way throughbrill bassline comes in 1/3 the way through can't wait to hear this on a big system. other stuff: busta rhymes - danger/rub - muck cheeky boot broken/beaty thing with nice analogue bassline and busta doing his thang on the top...there's a dub too if you don't need the mc. only child ft amp fiddler the sound of the summer for me...i banged on about this earlier on this week but boy do i like the vocal on that... fix my chic - tapehead again a bootythree tracks. fix my sink/good timescoulda done this better (more of the bassline needed), washing machine/riton 'take control' which is wicked but the highlight for me is MAWs work over the hawtin mix of le funk mob (if anyone can fix me up with the original le funk mob 2x10 then shout)brilliant block 16 - balihu14 the original lp mix does it for meagain posted earlier on this week about this ok what stuff are you lot listening to? robin...
Re: (313) Getting off Vestax Technics but along the same lines of
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark S. Krüx [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 9:06 PM Subject: Re: (313) Getting off Vestax Technics but along the same lines of So anyone notice any gear brands/models at Movement just to bring this back around to a 313 relevance? I'm sure most decks were techics but what about mixers or CD players? The CDJ 1000s are getting to be fairly standard these days I think (Plastic People has two, Fabric has two in each room I think). Had a go on the Denon 800 the other day and was very impressed. My CDJ-500s (700 in the states) does me just fine though. :) The Allen Heath Xone:64 seems to be gaining on the Pioneer these days from what I can tell. Love my Xone:32. It just sounds so nice! Tristan === Text/Mixes/Pics: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Getting off Vestax Technics but along the same lines of
- Original Message - From: Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 9:07 PM Subject: Re: (313) Getting off Vestax Technics but along the same lines of Phonopsia wrote on Tue, 29 Jul 2003 about following: I believe the joystick allows you to *push* and *pull* the record without Sounds like a cool feature to me. Similar to the old plus/minus buttons on the Denon CD players before they had a wheel. those buttons where horrible to use. the wheel is much more easier to handle :) Agreed. Takes a lot of practice and a good deal of luck! :) Tristan === Text/Mixes/Pics: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Numark or Technics
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Phonopsia wrote: As this new turntable is a high-end device for them in contrast to their utterly appauling budget units (*ahem* Kent :), I'd bet the quality will be better (although I wouldn't take the chance myself until I've seen the long-term reviews - as you said). Poor tristan had to mix on my raggedy-ass setup -- one Denon turntable, one Gemini, and my Numark with the broken crossfader and transformer switches. That bitchass Numark mixer has only been gigged with a couple times, it's on it's second crossfader, and the transformer switches got press about 3 times before they broke. As if that's not enough, the EQ sounds like ass too. Best quality is that it's blue.
RE: (313) m u s i c
-Original Message- From: Mark S. Krüx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 3:59 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) m u s i c it's the first track on a mix I made last night. What a storming 17 minutes it is;-) PG LOL. Actually 17:02 to be exact. It's what u call a 'concentrated' mix ;)
Re: (313) BMG in Australia
that should be easy..BMG will tear it downhave'nt heard luke lately but BMG covers so much ground it is a must see michael www.renegaderhythms.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: same night in Sydney as Luke Solomon. Hmm, tough desicions need to be made Quoting Benn Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We've got BMG in Australia this weekend for a few parties playing off laptop. I know it's gonna be a little quirky. ;) Anyone know of mixes lying about? r./ -- Benn Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.royaltech.net - This mail sent through IMP: www-mail.usyd.edu.au
(313) etc 2003.08.02 many other things
[update] DJ OP's Techno Show tonight 2003.07.29tu 23:00 90minutes m50's hard and minimal techno set tune in to 89.3 fm or http://www.wnur.org/live.ram more at http://www.djop.com/ etc this Friday night 2003.08.02sa 01:00 3hours hosted by: m50 featuring: Steve Tang (Emphasis recordings), nickd tune in to 89.3 fm or http://www.wnur.org/live.ram more at http://www.emphasisrecordings.com/ http://dj.nickd.org/ etc2 this Monday morning 2003.08.04mo 05:00 150minutes hosted by: m50 tune in to 89.3 fm or http://www.wnur.org/live.ram this Monday night at Danny's Tavern Concur presents: 2003.08.04mo 20:00 hosted by: Ray_rod (Hefty records) m50 (WNUR-FM, Meiotic) Proswell (live PA - Monotonik recordings, Merck recordings, Inpuj recordings) @ Danny's 1951 W Dickens Chicago, IL 21+ 0$ [upcoming] Improvlotto 2003.08.06we 21:00 Philip Von Zweck, Christopher Sorg, J Cookson, m50 see 'local' etc (wnur) 2003.08.09sa 01:00 3hours: Todd Sines (Residual, Background, Planet E), Archetype (live PA - Black Nation, Theory, Sonic Mind, 21/22 Corporation, Ongaku, Speaker Attack, 77, Inkubator Akustik), illmeasures presents: Flow 2003.08.09sa 22:00-03:00: Todd Sines (Residual, Background, Planet E), Archetype (live PA - Black Nation, Theory, Sonic Mind, 21/22 Corporation, Ongaku, Speaker Attack, 77, Inkubator Akustik), m50, Striz, DJ Reed see 'local' etc2 (wnur) 2003.08.11mo 05:00 150minutes downtempo [playlists] m50 : etc2 : 2003.Jul.28 05:00 150minutes : WNUR-FM (audible archive available at http://m50.net/) Amon Tobin : Verbal : Verbal : Ninjatune Journeyman : 3001 (Matrix II) : Voodoo Roux : Waveform Midwest Product : Reminder : Specifics : Ghostly Atjazz : Witchbender : Labresults : Mantis Polygon Window : If It Really Is Me : Thailand Sunsets : Pagan Meat Beat Manifesto : Hankerchief Head : RUOK : :\Run Gus Gus : Unneccessary : Attention : Moonshine Princess Superstar : Do It Like A Robot : Last Of The Great 20th Century Composers : The Corrupt Conglomerate Frederic Galliano : Kanbouto : And The African Divas : FCommunications Supreme Beings Of Leisure : Calamity Jane : Divine Operating System : Palmpictures Dr Digi : Dreaming : Dust Devil : Shakti Dubtribe Sound System : Do It Now : Back To Basics : System Turismo : Odessa : Die Riesige Nacht : Ware BRS : Catch The Boat - Fthing Loft Interpretation : Back To Basics : System Vacuous Ninnies : [track 3] : Vacuous Ninnies : Quatermass Black Powder : Mosaferat : Back To Basics : System Narcotic Thrust feat. Yvonne Lewis : Safe From Harm (Andy Morris Stuart Crichton Mix) : Back To Basics : System Baldwin : Heat Of Summer : Colors On A Canvas : Ivory Productions Protman : [untitled - track 1] : Voidcomp : [self-released] Protman : [untitled - track 2] : Voidcomp : [self-released] Karma Sutra : Robbery Of Vibrations : Voodoo Roux Deux : Waveform Funckarma : Noir : Danny Howells - 24/7 : Global Underground Subtonal : Electricite De Nuit : Danny Howells - 24/7 : Global Underground Will Saul : Fast Lane (Fink Remix) : Danny Howells - 24/7 : Global Underground The Streets : Let's Push Thing's Forward : Original Pirate Material : Vice A Sides Ft. Singing Fats Regina : What U Don't Know : Fabio : Fabriclive Omni Trio : Renegade Snares Remix (High Contrast Remix) : Fabio : Fabriclive Commix : I'll Take You There : Fabio : Fabriclive Priscilla McClean : Archangels : Invisible Chariots (1975-77) : CRI Robbers / Edwards : Bobsimultor : Dutchdance 2003 Vol 1 : Dutchdance m50 : Sabor Latino fill-in : 2003.Jul.27 22:00 2hours : WNUR-FM (audible archive available at http://m50.net/) Zorn : Sputnik : The City's Collapsing (But Not Tonight) : Lux Nigra Phon.o : Stereosushi : Typodub : Cytrax Ken Ishii : Sponge : Garden Of The Palm : RS Thomas Gwosdz : Ganz Toll : Gesellenstuecke : Schnittstelle Tomas Jirku : Sequin Six : Sequins : Force Inc Geoff White : Sandstone : [untitled] : Lo-fi Stereo G-Man : Quo Vadis : Quo Vadis : i220 G-Man : Zeno : Beautiful : i220 James Ruskin : Confession : Into Submission : Tresor James Ruskin : Set Up : Into Submission : Tresor Jake Farley : Dance Florr Suicide : Crisis : Sender Osborne : Daylight - Pyjama Mix by Isolee : Daylight : Spectral Titonton Duvante Fabrice Lig : Chimay Shimmy : Refraction Vol. 1 : Residual Matthew Dear : Some New Depression : Idol Tryouts : Ghostly Steve Tang : Overcast : Travelling Down A Different Avenue : Emphasis Sascha Funke : Pustekuchen : Kollektiv3 : Bpitchcontrol Geoff White : John Tejada Remix : Duck Cover : Cytrax Feadz : Wrekstin : Kollektiv3 : Bpitchcontrol Intricate : Kay One : Aube : Spezial Materiel Gregory Shiff : Repetitive Forms : Exit And Entrance : Persona Steve Tang : Windy City : Windy City : Emphasis Gregory Shiff : Facing Moves : Exit And Entrance 1 : Persona Ellen Allien : Augenblick : Berlinette : Bpitchcontrol Twerk : B/S : Tide Of Events : Planet Rhythm Ellen Allien : Secret : .Berlinette : Bpitchcontrol Ellen Allien : Open : Berlinette : Bpitchcontrol Rework : Anyway I Know You : Closer
Re: (313) Derrick May @ 10 Days Off video!
at 42 minutes: tres demented - demented [ planet e ] w/ vocals rhythm soul grace tendernness ... cravo e canela - new nature [ bombay ] virgo - my space [ trax ] ? (turn it up) john arnold - we´re not [ ubiquity ] Just before tres demented its french kiss remixed by Avril on Fcom. I like it, its a really good remix that gives a fresh breath to it. And yea, i love techno loops. When i goes on and on and on!! Thats a important part of techno..we enjoy loosing control on thoses loops...maybe its a more 'youth' approach to this music. I like when its more 'mental' or 'melodic' too... But this is the techno' richness, it knows to be pure dancefloor, freaky beats, or something with more soulful vibes. It really depends of ur relation to the music. Some will hate techno loops, some would say that more melodic techno is crap for grandpas... Hmm i like both. -Kidd*e*
