Re: (313) GPO & Acid House Connection

2003-10-09 Thread Matt MacQueen

On Thursday, October 9, 2003, at 04:43 PM, Placid wrote:


Ride the rhythm, 4 - play  gotto be free, garden of eden, ecstacy club,
adrenalin mod, 808 state were british acid that had it goin' on.


YES!  Now we are talking.808 state:  Deepville, Flow Coma for 
example, never get sick of those.  Jesus loves the Acid (Acid Chant)... 
totally freaky track and hammered by Derrick out an the M.I. too.   
Speaking of, Adrenalin m.o.d what happened to Darren Mohammed (sp?) 
 Wasn't there a Derrick May connection or collaboration back then too?  
memory... foggy...


also who did that track "move my body".. I think it was at the tail end 
of Ronny Pries excellent 'back in the days' mix,,, not really acid per 
se, but I totally remember that eerie sample burned into my brain from 
mixes around that era.  More info? ...  is that hard to find?


And anyone interested in this era needs to check Placid's page of great 
mixes:

http://www.acid-house.net/mixesframe.html
Any chance you can post a tracklist on your site for Ronny's Time Warp 
mix?   I think i know most but there's a couple i've got to track down.


peace
Matt MacQueen



Re: (313) Re: sun ra

2003-10-09 Thread Phonopsia
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 12:03 AM
Subject: (313) Re: sun ra


> - Original Message - 
> From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 11:43 PM
> Subject: Re: (313) sun ra
>
> - Original Message --
> From: "Phonopsia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >>> 14. Yesterdays New Quintet ³Nuclear War²
> >>
> >>Who is this?
> >
> >madlib. dudley perkins is on that track as well. it was released
> >on 7" with the jimi tenor track on the flip, i could have sworn
> >you picked it up already. i didnt think it was too hot, but theres
> >like 5 copies sitting here at the record shop i work at if you
> >need one.
>
> Aha! This is on the recently released Dudley Perkins full length album as
> well. Didn't realize Yesterday's New Quintet was involved. It's called
> 'Gotta Go' feat. YNQ on the album. Didn't make the connection until now.
It
> says it's 'inspired by Sun Ra' on the sleeve. Time to read those liner
> notes! :)


Oh, and BTW I agree it ain't all that. It's just kind of a short bit at the
end of the album and by no means representative of the rest of the content.
Kinda funny though! :)

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(313) Re: sun ra

2003-10-09 Thread Phonopsia
- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 11:43 PM
Subject: Re: (313) sun ra


- Original Message --
From: "Phonopsia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>>> 14. Yesterdays New Quintet ³Nuclear War²
>>
>>Who is this?
>
>madlib. dudley perkins is on that track as well. it was released
>on 7" with the jimi tenor track on the flip, i could have sworn
>you picked it up already. i didnt think it was too hot, but theres
>like 5 copies sitting here at the record shop i work at if you
>need one.


Aha! This is on the recently released Dudley Perkins full length album as
well. Didn't realize Yesterday's New Quintet was involved. It's called
'Gotta Go' feat. YNQ on the album. Didn't make the connection until now. It
says it's 'inspired by Sun Ra' on the sleeve. Time to read those liner
notes! :)

Tristan
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Re: (313) sun ra

2003-10-09 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>sorry tom, I stand corrected on the identity of YNQ - whoops! 
hope 
>that won't put anyone off checking 'Shades Of Blue', which is 
>wonderful.

you were semi right though in equating madlib with them, though 
you just didnt know whats up. YNQ is a cool concept, madlib plays 
all the instruments himself and multitracks them. he's wild, 
though too inconsistant IMO. the YNQ cover album of stevie wonder 
tracks that came out earlier this summer is absolutely awesome. 

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   


Re: (313) sun ra

2003-10-09 Thread dan

One more thing before I try and stop my compulsive posting at the
moment, if anyone has that kind of cash to drop, Soul Brother
(London) currently have an OG  vinyl copy of 'Space Is The Place'
going for a cool £75...

At 06:35 pm +0200 9/10/03, Maarten Baute wrote:

Speaking of Sun Ra. Can anyone recommend a few essential sun ra albums, that
are pleasant to listen to (ie. not too experimental)? I really like the
"lanquidity" album. I think it´s great!!

Thanks,
Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com




Re: (313) sun ra

2003-10-09 Thread dan
sorry tom, I stand corrected on the identity of YNQ - whoops! hope 
that won't put anyone off checking 'Shades Of Blue', which is 
wonderful.


Dan.

At 06:43 pm -0400 9/10/03, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:

- Original Message --
From: "Phonopsia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


 14. Yesterdays New Quintet "Nuclear War"


Who is this?


madlib. dudley perkins is on that track as well. it was released
on 7" with the jimi tenor track on the flip, i could have sworn
you picked it up already. i didnt think it was too hot, but theres
like 5 copies sitting here at the record shop i work at if you
need one.

tom


andythepooh.com




FW: (313) GPO & Acid House Connection

2003-10-09 Thread FRED giannelli
Yes, I would agree with all of you.  Jack the Tab was Gen's attempt at
jumping on the bandwagon.  I did hear acid house DJ's in the UK use Gen
saying the word "ACID" off of the inner groove of the Superman 12" "Tune in,
Turn on (thee Acid House)" in the summer of '88 though.  That was it.

Even though I wasn't involved in Jack the Tab it was an influential UK
psychedelic record that acknowledged the coming Acid House phenomenon.
Weatherall used the same sample from that biker movie on the Primal Scream
stuff.

Richard James told me once when we first met that he had bought Jack the Tab
when it came out and was disappointed that there was no 303 on it.  He was
like, "Where's the acid ? "   Richard was also the only one who spotted the
sample of Margaret Thatcher on a cooking TV program.

Don't forget Stakker "Humanoid".  Great UK Acid track that was out then.
And the Baby Ford stuff was good too.

Please remember that unless you lived in Chicago in 1986-88 these records
were extremely regional.  You really couldn't track down this stuff unless
you got on a plane and went to the source.  I was surprised that when I got
to London in the early summer of '88 the best records I heard were from
Chicago and Detroit and that I couldn't buy any of the stuff in Boston and
NYC and they were extremely hard to get my hands on in London.  These days
we are spoiled by finding out about stuff via the internet.  Back then it
could take years to track down fairly current records and it did.

I remember sitting in the lounge of Berwick St. studio were the Orb were
recording visiting a friend @ the studio when I first saw the video on TV of
Inner City doing "Good Life".  I was totally impressed.  I thought they were
from Belgium or something.  So stylish and fresh.  Couldn't believe they
were from Detroit and they weren't known yet outside of Detroit in the US.
That changed very quickly.  It's a bit like when Donna Summer went from
Boston to Germany to work with Moroder, who was from Italy.

By the time of "Tekno Acid Beat" the Acid House phenomenon in the UK had to
go underground.  By the time Wax Trax released this stuff, "Jack the Tab"
was really out of date.  Those who bought either of them had to be really
young or completely out of it.  What do you expect in the US ?

I did say to Gen @ the time in '88 that we should just get the gear to make
real Acid house records back then but he wanted to integrate the band into
it still and tour.  I already had a 303, 202 and 808 and samplers but they
were all in the US, so we continued in this rock/Acid house inspired hybrid
band thing.  I still believe that we were pretty good at it compared to the
likes of others @ that time who claimed to be Acid House bands also,  Happy
Mondays, Primal Scream and the Shamen.  They all had better financed record
companies helping them.  We had sh*t.  But audiences on our tours certainly
thought that rock was dead and acid house was it.

I always thought of PTV when I was involved as the Acid Rock House band that
was playing @ the funeral of Rock and Roll.  It was us saying "f*ck you" to
the music industry before mp3's.  Haven't been paid to pick up a guitar
since then.  One bit of insight Gen did have was that the DJ and electronic
music was the next most interesting wave in music in '88.  Too bad he
couldn't figure out some way to contribute.  I certainly moved on when I met
the Plus 8 guys in '90.

According to the movie "24 Hour Party People" Tony Wilson invented Acid
House and the Happy Mondays were the greatest band in the world with the
greatest poet in England.  Give me a break.  The time I saw them they were
the stiffest most drugged out band of losers I had ever heard.  Absolutely
no groove.  Teabags !!!

telepathic regards,
the kooky scientist



on 10/9/03 5:13 PM, Matt MacQueen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> catching up on some old mail... sorry i'm late
> 
>> These records influenced him into making the 'Jack the Tab' compilation
>> which although very good, never really struck me as being either  a.)
>> an
>> Acid-House record  - there wasn't a 303 in sight or b.) a radical new
>> sound
>> - it contained loads of samples much akin to what Meat Beat Manifesto
>> and
>> others had been doing a few years earlier.
> 
> Personally, it's a compilation that I could never get into... and the
> title
> is so awesome  but the music inside just didn't hold up for me, ha ha.
> I think Wax Trax put it out as 2xLP Jack The Tab: Tekno Acid Beat.
> (I'll admit i've never really lusted after Gen's tunes much to begin
> with... )
> Shock value does not equal musical value, and I didn't even find
> much on that 'Jack the Tab' comp truly shocking compared to other (and
> IMHO better)
> things dropping at that time both from chicago and UK (circa 87-88?).
> 
> The comp is interesting historical footnote but IMHO little more.  I
> suppose if
> you snatched  this up when it first came out it might hold some
> (personally) nostalgic value for some folks b

Re: (313) sun ra

2003-10-09 Thread Matt MacQueen



Saga of Resistance comp is great..


duh I mean "Dedication: The Myth Lives On" compilation (Sun Ra 
joint)


Saga of Resistance was the 1st 12" on Kindred Spirits w/ the Theo 
re-interpretation action.


peace
Matt MacQueen
(who will stop furiously posting to 313 any minute now?)



Re: (313) sun ra

2003-10-09 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

- Original Message --
From: "Phonopsia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>> 14. Yesterdays New Quintet ³Nuclear War²
>
>Who is this?

madlib. dudley perkins is on that track as well. it was released
on 7" with the jimi tenor track on the flip, i could have sworn
you picked it up already. i didnt think it was too hot, but theres
like 5 copies sitting here at the record shop i work at if you
need one.

tom


andythepooh.com







Re: (313) sun ra

2003-10-09 Thread dan
YNQ are a contemporary 'funk/jazz' band in the best sense of the word 
that release stuff on Stones Throw (maybe other labels?). They're 
pretty good, being both contemporary but also steeped in the sounds 
of the sixties and seventies without being stuck there. For evidence 
of their prowess, just check the tracks that they play on, on the 
Madlib LP 'Shades Of Blue' LP - which is well worth a look anyhow.


Dan

P.S. Anyone London peeps going to see Rolando at Fabric after the 313 
party this Sat? I think he's on a 3 or thereabouts.



 > 14. Yesterdays New Quintet "Nuclear War"

Who is this?


Re: (313) sun ra

2003-10-09 Thread Matt MacQueen

Saga of Resistance comp is great..


03. Recloose feat. J. Crayford “Paepulsariki”
--- this one is a personal favorite, i like how it starts with just 
they keys for a long time, the the beats and electronic bleeps, etc. 
enter in slowly later... evolves very organically yet has tech-ey 
elements.




06. Mustang “Nuclear War"

--- and love this one


07. Theo Parrish “Saga Of Resistance”

--- awesome, understated, moody


10. Mocky “Departure Point"
--- abstract, slow, dp cinematic.  End of the night track...  
4am as you collapse forward onto the bar spilling your drink everywhere


and the 'space chords' by Outerzone Band are great little sonic 
bursts/phils/intervals, overall holds it all together well conceptually.


peace,
Matt MacQueen


Re: (313) Radio One!!!

2003-10-09 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




Is he on air anymore? I know he occasionally releases his own music under
the Dark Male moniker. I love the compilations he's assembled. Kickin
really had some great records.
Wish there could be something like this nationwide on the radio in the US.
I know there's the internet but something about listening to a good DJ over
the radio, makes me feel like there might be other people out there sitting
glued next to their tuners. Internet radio is so - hmmm, impersonal?
It's overly romantic I know but I like it.

MEK



   
  Tom Churchill 
   
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  rdings.com>  cc:   313 
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   Subject:  Re: (313) Radio One!!! 
   
  10/09/03 05:20 PM 
   

   

   




> Colin Dale's program (Abstrakt Dance?) was good at times.. was that on
> Radio 1 or somewhere else?

It was on Kiss - broadcast to London and the surronding area only. It was a
totally inspirational show for me at the time, I listened to it religiously
in my uni days. He opened my ears to loads of amazing music...

Cheers,

Tom








Re: (313) sun ra

2003-10-09 Thread Phonopsia
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Churchill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Phonopsia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: (313) sun ra


> > I heard there would be more Theo remixes on the album (which is a very
good
> > thing). Does anyone have a tracklist?
>
> Mustang ³Nuclear War"

I wonder how this will mix with the Yo La Tengo version. :)

> Offworld feat. Vanessa Freeman ³Astro Black²

Whoa! How is this???

> 14. Yesterdays New Quintet ³Nuclear War²

Who is this?

Tristan
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Re: (313) Radio One!!!

2003-10-09 Thread Phonopsia
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From: "Matt MacQueen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Radio One!!!


> I think it's a hard combo to find someone who most importantly has good
> taste in music, then can DJ well technically, and ALSO hold a good
> radio on-air voice/vibe/feeling when necessary... you rarely get all of
> them in one person.  (I'm could certainly improve in all 3 elements,
> for that matter... but especially the latter).  :P


I think Gilles Petersen has done a great job of carrying the Radio One
torch. Not techno per se, but certainly a voice of the underground.

Tristan
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Re: (313) Radio One!!!

2003-10-09 Thread Tom Churchill
> Colin Dale's program (Abstrakt Dance?) was good at times.. was that on
> Radio 1 or somewhere else?

It was on Kiss - broadcast to London and the surronding area only. It was a
totally inspirational show for me at the time, I listened to it religiously
in my uni days. He opened my ears to loads of amazing music...

Cheers,

Tom





(313) TG Reunion - was Re: (313) GPO & Acid House Connection

2003-10-09 Thread Phonopsia
- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Anglesey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 8:44 PM
Subject: (313) GPO & Acid House Connection


> BTW - Are any other 313'ers off to the Throbbing Gristle re-union concert
in
> Sussex,
> UK next May.  3 days of madness with TG, Chris & Cosey (now called Carter
> Tutti),
> Coil, Scanner, Richard H Kirk, Pansonic, Andrew Weatherall etc. etc.  If
so,
> pls
> post me privately if you fancy hooking up.


I think a bunch of people on Overload were planning on going when it was
announced, and since the bulk of that board have migrated to Little Detroit,
you may wanna ask there. We good peepz. :) I hope to go, but I've got tons
of travel planned for May and June, so may not be able to afford it. :/

Tristan
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Re: (313) sun ra

2003-10-09 Thread Tom Churchill
> I heard there would be more Theo remixes on the album (which is a very good
> thing). Does anyone have a tracklist?

>From rushhour.nl:

01. Outerzone Band ³Space Chord 1²,
02. Jimi Tenor ³Love In Outta Space²
03. Recloose feat. J. Crayford ³Paepulsariki²
04. Build An Ark ³Door Of The Cosmos²
05. Outerzone Band ³Space Chord 2²
06. Mustang ³Nuclear War"
07. Theo Parrish ³Saga Of Resistance²
08. Outerzone Band ³Suny²
09. Outerzone Band ³Space Chord 3²
10. Mocky ³Departure P"
11. Offworld feat. Vanessa Freeman ³Astro Black²
12. King Britt ³Black (A Shade)"
13. Outerzone Band ³Space Chord 4²
14. Yesterdays New Quintet ³Nuclear War²
15. Outerzone Band ³Space Chord 5²
16. *Philip Charles ³deconStrUctioN of a new eRA.
*= CD ONLY

Cheers,

Tom



Re: (313) Radio One!!!

2003-10-09 Thread Matt MacQueen

my major problem with radio 1 is the essential mix.. it really has gone
downhill.
 i rememeber the days of tuning in and being surprised- new
sounds, new DJs.. now its a mixture of the same croneys, same sound 
most

weeks..


that's too bad... I used to get tapes of this sent here and I agree 
there used to be fresh stuff on it, mid to late 90s.  Also liked Dave 
Clarke's (short lived?) radio pilot called The Truth... first time i 
heard Killa Bees and a lot of the early Relief records just as they 
were coming out (or even before).  He would just get loads of whites 
from UR/Submerge and hammer them on the air with very little 
artist/title info.  Then mix them alongside classics from Phuture, Bam 
Bam, Beltram, etc.  Sometimes his voiceovers were funny on those.  I 
can't believe - if you think about it - hottest UR white labels are 
being played on the radio nationally on a commercial radio station, 
unheard of in the US.


Colin Dale's program (Abstrakt Dance?) was good at times.. was that on 
Radio 1 or somewhere else?  I thought he had a good radio voice and 
persona on the air... I recall he did a UR interview way a few years 
back, right?  Kind of hard interview because UR was of course being 
very quiet and secretive and Colin was doing his best to be respectful, 
it was funny.


I think it's a hard combo to find someone who most importantly has good 
taste in music, then can DJ well technically, and ALSO hold a good 
radio on-air voice/vibe/feeling when necessary... you rarely get all of 
them in one person.  (I'm could certainly improve in all 3 elements, 
for that matter... but especially the latter).  :P


peace,
Matt MacQueen



the recent exception being an excellent mix by DJ Heather from 
Chicago- that

was cool... anyway, theres my ten pence worth.. feel free to rip me to
shreds : )

kevin G de la Wild Loops





Re: (313) sun ra

2003-10-09 Thread Phonopsia
- Original Message - 
From: "Michel Rijnders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Philip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: (313) sun ra


> On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 06:57, Philip wrote:
> > Anyone heard the sun ra tribute on kindred spirits ? seems like there
> > are lots of tracks from francisco mora / outerzone. His CD on planet e
> > didn't do much for me so i don't really want more of the same. Ta.
>
> Bought the 2LP about two weeks ago and it hasn't left my turntables
> since. Though there are 6 Fransisco Mora/Outerzone Band tracks on it, 5
> of them (Space Chord 1-5) are (really) short interludes. So go get it!
> :o)

I heard there would be more Theo remixes on the album (which is a very good
thing). Does anyone have a tracklist?

Tristan
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Re: (313) GPO & Acid House Connection

2003-10-09 Thread Placid
Speaking as an acid head..  Got to agree with matt on this one.

Ride the rhythm, 4 - play  gotto be free, garden of eden, ecstacy club,
adrenalin mod, 808 state were british acid that had it goin' on.  Jack
the tab never really entered into the affray...



Placid
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http://www.acid-house.net

Everything you wanted to know about acid house


> catching up on some old mail... sorry i'm late
> 
>> These records influenced him into making the 'Jack the Tab' compilation
>> which although very good, never really struck me as being either  a.)
>> an
>> Acid-House record  - there wasn't a 303 in sight or b.) a radical new
>> sound
>> - it contained loads of samples much akin to what Meat Beat Manifesto
>> and
>> others had been doing a few years earlier.
> 
> Personally, it's a compilation that I could never get into... and the
> title
> is so awesome  but the music inside just didn't hold up for me, ha ha.
> I think Wax Trax put it out as 2xLP Jack The Tab: Tekno Acid Beat.
> (I'll admit i've never really lusted after Gen's tunes much to begin
> with... )
> Shock value does not equal musical value, and I didn't even find
> much on that 'Jack the Tab' comp truly shocking compared to other (and
> IMHO better)
> things dropping at that time both from chicago and UK (circa 87-88?).
> 
> The comp is interesting historical footnote but IMHO little more.  I
> suppose if
> you snatched  this up when it first came out it might hold some
> (personally) nostalgic value for some folks but I think the majority of
> these tracks
> aren't deserving of the title "classics" or "cornerstone of techno" as
> I have heard
> others praise this comp.I also realize this is completely
> subjective.  :)
> 
> I think a lot of US folks just kind of shrugged at this one... there
> were better
> tunes to be had locally both in detroit and chicago at that time.
> Believe me I
> appreciate early UK acid techno/house but "Jack The Tab" ain't the
> finest
> example of it.
> 
> peace
> Matt MacQueen
> 



Re: (313) sun ra

2003-10-09 Thread Matt MacQueen

Re: Theo Parrish

On Thursday, October 9, 2003, at 10:38 AM, Grammenos, Peter wrote:


Btw for all those in nyc he's playing tonight at APT w/ Metro Area 



Yes this is true, and also the final night of Metro Area's legendary 
"Party Out of Bounds" series there, all good things must come to an 
end.  They're going out in style with Theo Parrish to be sure.  So  you 
NYC'ers have no excuses... make it memorable and go J-J-Jack your body. 
   :)


peace
Matt MacQueen



Re: (313) plasm nesonic = dan curtin?

2003-10-09 Thread Matt MacQueen


  hi folks.  is there truth to the info that dan curtin is the producer
behind that sweet "plasm nesonic" EP on delsin?


I believe you are correct. Now for your bonus round (extra Anorak 
points) can you identify the Smith's sample on one of the tracks?


agree this 12" is brilliant, on of my favorite early Delsin releases.

this charming man,
Matt MacQueen



(313) Top 10 for October + Reviews

2003-10-09 Thread Phonopsia
October Top 10
==

1. Freedom Soundz Feat. Vanessa Freeman - Feelings EP - Nepenta Promo

2. RSL - Wesley Music - Player

3. Pepe Bradock & Michelle Weeks - Distorted Echoes - KIF

4. Truby Trio - Universal Love (Âme Remix) - Compost

5. Stateless- Leave Me Now (Brooks Remix) - Freerange

6. Only Child featuring Amp Fiddler - U Bring Me Vibes - Grand Central

7. John Tejada - The Toiling of Idle Hands - Immigrant

8. John Arnold with Amp Fiddler - Get Yourself Together / I Can Be (inc
Joshua / Spacek Remixes) - Ubiquity

9. LFO - Sheath - Warp

10. 32 Project - The Root Of World - Ibadan

11. I haven't cracked open the Jaylib album yet, but I bet it deserves an
honourable mention.

As you've probably noticed I've bought a ridiculous number of records
recently, so I figured I should share with you the cream of the crop. For
starters, there are two new John Tejada albums out as of last week (or at
least that's when I found them). I just mixed through the entirety of each,
so my impressions may not be 100% accurate, having only heard them once, and
being in a hurry to get to other stuff, I found myself in the mix most of
the time.

Anyway... the first, with Arian Leviste is on Playhouse, 'Fairfax Sake'.
Slightly clicky in places with those Tejada chords you'd expect. Much more
techno than most Playhouse material. Some of it doesn't quite elevate to the
levels I'd hope for, but the whole thing is solid throughout. Not a weak
track on it really, but no single track stood out high above the rest.

The second, 'The Toiling of Idle Hands' on Immigrant, is quite varied and
showcases a good number of his talents. The whole thing is dance floor
playable, but it covers a healthy range from broken techno to straight up
Detroit sh*t (or at least his L.A. variant thereof). Having not heard his
album on A13, but always having ranked 'The Matrix of Us' at the top of his
discog, I'd have to rate this right beside it at a glance, if not covering
as much downtempo stuff. The 4th, 7th and 8th tracks on this are really
really nice but it all holds together as a proper techno album - a rarity at
that.

While I'm on the topic, the latest Domu + Volcov 'Last of the Great Apes' on
Residual is really freaked out broken techno, and includes a crazy Titonton
mix, with his beats at their funkiest. Three really solid tracks on this,
and one that didn't particular affect me. And while on this topic, the
latest Titonton 'Raunchy' is quite nice, if not his most groundbreaking
work. It reminds me of his track on the Soul in Motion comp (maybe it was
called 'Anticipation'???), but with beats that kick throughout.

Some of the other new purchases that have really been doing it for me:

Headspace 3 sampler - I don't think this is terribly new, but it's a great
representation of Europe's take on Detroit. Fabrice Lig and Arne Weinberg's
tracks stand out to me, but all four are really nice. Remind me to get these
EPs!

Techno is back! :)

Only Child - U Bring Me Vibes - Grand Central: Features Amp Fiddler on
vocals and keys, with two remixes from DSL (of Chili Funk fame), and another
from Mantis Recordings. Each of the remixes adds a new twist, but the
original holds it all together best for me. If you like Amp Fiddler, this is
pretty much a must in my mind.

John Arnold with Amp Fiddler - Get Yourself Together / I Can Be ( inc Joshua
/ Spacek Remixes ) - Ubiquity: Recently reviewed here to death, so I won't
go into a lot of detail other than echoing the other sentiments. Each remix
is great, and the originals are as good as you'd expect from this duo. I
still haven't had a chance to take in the full John Arnold album yet b/c I
want to devote the attention to it that it deserves.

Stateless- Leave Me Now ( inc Swell Session / Brooks Remixes ) - Freerange:
I really like the Stateless album 'Art of No State', and it sort of
surprises me that I haven't seen more discussion of it anywhere (not
necessarily here). The Brooks remix on this adds a bouncy galloping beat
that kind of reminds me of some of Thomas Fehlmann's more recent beat work,
with sparse sounds and melodies that don't interfere with the amazing, huge
airy vocal. It also sounds to me as though he's altered the delivery of the
vocals pretty substantially in order to fit it into his rearrangement. It
works really well. This is another excellent remix from Brooks. I think I
like his heavily vocal stuff best of his work, even if all if it is
excellent.

Pepe Bradock & Michelle Weeks - Distorted Echoes - KIF: I know I'm beating a
dead horse, but this is fantastic. I'm sure it will be warming dance floors
through the new year. Definitely makes the top 20 of 2003, without a doubt.

Freedom Soundz Feat. Vanessa Freeman - Feelings EP - Nepenta Promo: Alex
Attias certainly has a way with vocals. This may be the best record of my
recent purchases. Very hard to classify - perhaps 'Broken House'? Although
that description may not do justice to the prototypical West London synth
line that 

Re: (313) GPO & Acid House Connection

2003-10-09 Thread Matt MacQueen

catching up on some old mail... sorry i'm late


These records influenced him into making the 'Jack the Tab' compilation
which although very good, never really struck me as being either  a.) 
an
Acid-House record  - there wasn't a 303 in sight or b.) a radical new 
sound
- it contained loads of samples much akin to what Meat Beat Manifesto 
and

others had been doing a few years earlier.


Personally, it's a compilation that I could never get into... and the 
title

is so awesome  but the music inside just didn't hold up for me, ha ha.
I think Wax Trax put it out as 2xLP Jack The Tab: Tekno Acid Beat.
(I'll admit i've never really lusted after Gen's tunes much to begin 
with... )

Shock value does not equal musical value, and I didn't even find
much on that 'Jack the Tab' comp truly shocking compared to other (and 
IMHO better)

 things dropping at that time both from chicago and UK (circa 87-88?).

The comp is interesting historical footnote but IMHO little more.  I 
suppose if

you snatched  this up when it first came out it might hold some
(personally) nostalgic value for some folks but I think the majority of 
these tracks
 aren't deserving of the title "classics" or "cornerstone of techno" as 
I have heard
others praise this comp.I also realize this is completely 
subjective.  :)


I think a lot of US folks just kind of shrugged at this one... there 
were better
tunes to be had locally both in detroit and chicago at that time.  
Believe me I
appreciate early UK acid techno/house but "Jack The Tab" ain't the 
finest

example of it.

peace
Matt MacQueen



Re: (313) Paging Metroplex Records

2003-10-09 Thread D B

FRED giannelli wrote:


I think I set the record straight here years ago.

http://www.fopi.net/inter/fred.htm

 

Thanks for the link.  Confirms my understanding , but from an insiders 
perspective.


Thanks,


Dave



RE: (313) axis - see the light

2003-10-09 Thread Tim Baker
New mix cd w/DVD from Mills.

tb

-Original Message-
From: Garrett McGrath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 2:20 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) axis - see the light


check the site.  anyone know what that's about?



(313) axis - see the light

2003-10-09 Thread Garrett McGrath
check the site.  anyone know what that's about?


Re: (313) sun ra

2003-10-09 Thread Adam

Cosmic Tones for Mental Therapy/Art Forms of Dimensions Tomorrow

We Travel the Spaceways/Bad and Beautiful


Good stuff   :)


On Thursday, Oct 9, 2003, at 12:35 US/Eastern, Maarten Baute wrote:

Speaking of Sun Ra. Can anyone recommend a few essential sun ra 
albums, that

are pleasant to listen to (ie. not too experimental)? I really like the
"lanquidity" album. I think it´s great!!

Thanks,
Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com





Re: (313) Paging Metroplex Records

2003-10-09 Thread Chris Anglesey

whoops, didn't see Fred's reply until after I sent that
post :)

chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "FRED giannelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "D B" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Paging Metroplex Records


> I think I set the record straight here years ago.
>
> http://www.fopi.net/inter/fred.htm
>
> telepathic regards,
> the kooky scientist
>
>
>
> on 10/9/03 2:46 PM, D B at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > jonathan morse wrote:
> >
> >> yeah...genesis p orridge actually invented acid house, err...well, at
least
> >> he claims he did. no really, I swear. it says so right on his 'jack the
tab'
> >> compilation.
> >>
> >> ok...ill stop now.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Well, Genesis has made quite a few different claims in the past.   I
> > take all statements from the man
> > with a grain of salt.  With 1/2 of the interviews where he claims that
> > he invented Acid House,
> > he also , goes into how he had went on a trip to Chicago and bought a
> > bunch of Acid House
> > records.
> >
> > If you believe Genesis,  then you'll believe me that I invented Techno.
> > It all started in Portland OR , I tell you!
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
>
>





(313) GPO & Acid House Connection

2003-10-09 Thread Chris Anglesey

The story (as far as I know) goes like this;  Gen went to do a radio
interview/gig  in Chicago and was taken to a record shop where
Derricks May & Carter worked.  (The latter even went on tour with
them as a rapper !!)  Being partial to psychedelic music he asked them
for the maddest records they had in the shop.  They picked a selection
of 'Acid House' out which he took back to the UK and played to death.
These records influenced him into making the 'Jack the Tab' compilation
which although very good, never really struck me as being either  a.) an
Acid-House record  - there wasn't a 303 in sight or b.) a radical new sound
- it contained loads of samples much akin to what Meat Beat Manifesto and
others had been doing a few years earlier.  Love him as much as I do I have
to agree with the guy who said that anything he says should be taken 'with a
pinch of salt'.  In short the Porridge likes to exaggerate in interviews
in order to attract publicity (he recently claimed that he was a
re-incarnation
of Aleister Crowley).  Gen has been around many different musical
styles/eras and can
even stake claim to inventing a musical 'genre' with Throbbing Gristle
(Industrial
Music) but he definetly didn't coin the phrase 'Acid House'.  I see a new
thread
starting with this one ;)

It would be interesting to hear Fred's version of events regarding the whole
GPO>Acid House debate.

BTW - Are any other 313'ers off to the Throbbing Gristle re-union concert in
Sussex,
UK next May.  3 days of madness with TG, Chris & Cosey (now called Carter
Tutti),
Coil, Scanner, Richard H Kirk, Pansonic, Andrew Weatherall etc. etc.  If so,
pls
post me privately if you fancy hooking up.


Chris.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]






- Original Message - 
From: "D B" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Paging Metroplex Records


> jonathan morse wrote:
>
> >yeah...genesis p orridge actually invented acid house, err...well, at
least
> >he claims he did. no really, I swear. it says so right on his 'jack the
tab'
> >compilation.
> >
> >ok...ill stop now.
> >
> >
> >
>
> Well, Genesis has made quite a few different claims in the past.   I
> take all statements from the man
> with a grain of salt.  With 1/2 of the interviews where he claims that
> he invented Acid House,
> he also , goes into how he had went on a trip to Chicago and bought a
> bunch of Acid House
> records.
>
> If you believe Genesis,  then you'll believe me that I invented Techno.
> It all started in Portland OR , I tell you!
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>





RE: (313) John Tejada in NYC this Friday

2003-10-09 Thread Petrov, Daniel
i'll add my recommendation to this show.  

i brought jt to cleveland for our monthly warm art night in september,
and he absolutely destroyed the room.  playing from final scratch, john
dropped a blend of click tracks, detroit chords, lush pulsating layers,
perlonesque beats, etc.  complete with scratching.  it was 3 hours of
perfectly programmed madness, and he had the room screaming for more
when he came off the decks.  

definitely one to catch.

-Original Message-
From: Bryan Kasenic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 3:28 PM
To: 313
Subject: (313) John Tejada in NYC this Friday


FRIDAY OCTOBER 10

The Bunker 

Special guests: 
John Tejada (Palette, 7th City | Los Angeles)
Sara Walker (Direct Drive, Static | NYC)
DJ Ripley (SoFat, HavocSound, Deathsucker Records | NYC)

John Tejada is one of the most innovative techno/house producers we've
heard, and we're constantly playing his tracks at the Bunker.  He's
released about 8 albums and countless singles.  Highly recommended if
you like Dan Bell, Perlon tracks, Magda, Kompakt, designer techno ... or
if you just like to jack on the dancefloor.  John will be playing a
Final Scratch set from about 1:30 until we all want to stop dancing.

Behind the decks, Ripley gets music to trick your ass into thinking it's
a brain, re-breaking bass and beats from jungle into dub, dancehall,
hiphop, and experimental noise. On sunny days, Ripley spins rocksteady.
Ripley wants everyone to dance, and she usually succeeds. Ripley spent
most of her summer touring Europe, and her bag is surely full of amazing
new records. She will be releasing a mix CD on Deathsucker Records soon.

Sara Walker is one of the best electro/breaks DJ's in NYC, frequently
igniting the dancefloor at Static events with her unique blend of all
things dark and funky. This may well be your last chance to see her play
a breaks set in NYC for a long time, as she is moving to Europe in early
November. The last time Sara played the Bunker, the dancefloor erupted
and we had one of our best parties ever.

plus - 
Resident DJs: Movement, kleverVice, Spinoza
Resident Visualists: Giles Hendrix, Chris Jordan

the Bunker
Fridays at SubTonic Lounge 9p-3a
107 Norfolk Street (downstairs)
(212)358-7501 
http://www.klever.org/thebunkernyc
free, 21+ 
eclectic ecstatic party sounds 



Re: (313) dreamgirl

2003-10-09 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Trevor Wilkes wrote on Thu, 9 Oct 2003 about following:

> I got this repress on "S12" with Dream Girl on one side and some Robert
> ownes song on the other...good quality pressing. so yeah it can't be that
> hard to find if it's been repressed 2 or 3 times in the last year alone.

yeah, i can see that trax 12" everywhere and i have it, but the sound 
quality on fantasy girl is so crap that it's unplayable :)

and thanks Mark for the info. 


sakke
-- 
Timing must be perfect now.  Two-timing must be better than perfect.
http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/


Re: (313) Paging Metroplex Records

2003-10-09 Thread FRED giannelli
I think I set the record straight here years ago.

http://www.fopi.net/inter/fred.htm

telepathic regards,
the kooky scientist



on 10/9/03 2:46 PM, D B at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> jonathan morse wrote:
> 
>> yeah...genesis p orridge actually invented acid house, err...well, at least
>> he claims he did. no really, I swear. it says so right on his 'jack the tab'
>> compilation.
>> 
>> ok...ill stop now.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> Well, Genesis has made quite a few different claims in the past.   I
> take all statements from the man
> with a grain of salt.  With 1/2 of the interviews where he claims that
> he invented Acid House,
> he also , goes into how he had went on a trip to Chicago and bought a
> bunch of Acid House
> records.  
> 
> If you believe Genesis,  then you'll believe me that I invented Techno.
> It all started in Portland OR , I tell you!
> 
> 
> 
> Dave
> 
> 



(313) John Tejada in NYC this Friday

2003-10-09 Thread Bryan Kasenic
FRIDAY OCTOBER 10

The Bunker 

Special guests: 
John Tejada (Palette, 7th City | Los Angeles)
Sara Walker (Direct Drive, Static | NYC)
DJ Ripley (SoFat, HavocSound, Deathsucker Records | NYC)

John Tejada is one of the most innovative techno/house producers we've
heard, and we're constantly playing his tracks at the Bunker.  He's released
about 8 albums and countless singles.  Highly recommended if you like Dan
Bell, Perlon tracks, Magda, Kompakt, designer techno ... or if you just like
to jack on the dancefloor.  John will be playing a Final Scratch set from
about 1:30 until we all want to stop dancing.

Behind the decks, Ripley gets music to trick your ass into thinking it's a
brain, re-breaking bass and beats from jungle into dub, dancehall, hiphop,
and experimental noise. On sunny days, Ripley spins rocksteady. Ripley wants
everyone to dance, and she usually succeeds. Ripley spent most of her summer
touring Europe, and her bag is surely full of amazing new records. She
will be releasing a mix CD on Deathsucker Records soon.

Sara Walker is one of the best electro/breaks DJ's in NYC, frequently
igniting the dancefloor at Static events with her unique blend of all things
dark and funky. This may well be your last chance to see her play a breaks
set in NYC for a long time, as she is moving to Europe in early November.
The last time Sara played the Bunker, the dancefloor erupted and we had one
of our best parties ever.

plus - 
Resident DJs: Movement, kleverVice, Spinoza
Resident Visualists: Giles Hendrix, Chris Jordan

the Bunker
Fridays at SubTonic Lounge 9p-3a
107 Norfolk Street (downstairs)
(212)358-7501 
http://www.klever.org/thebunkernyc
free, 21+ 
eclectic ecstatic party sounds 



Re: (313) dreamgirl

2003-10-09 Thread Trevor Wilkes
I got this repress on "S12" with Dream Girl on one side and some Robert
ownes song on the other...good quality pressing. so yeah it can't be that
hard to find if it's been repressed 2 or 3 times in the last year alone.

Trevor Wilkes



Re: (313) Paging Metroplex Records

2003-10-09 Thread D B

jonathan morse wrote:


yeah...genesis p orridge actually invented acid house, err...well, at least
he claims he did. no really, I swear. it says so right on his 'jack the tab'
compilation.

ok...ill stop now.

 



Well, Genesis has made quite a few different claims in the past.   I 
take all statements from the man
with a grain of salt.  With 1/2 of the interviews where he claims that 
he invented Acid House,
he also , goes into how he had went on a trip to Chicago and bought a 
bunch of Acid House
records.  

If you believe Genesis,  then you'll believe me that I invented Techno.  
It all started in Portland OR , I tell you!




Dave




Re: (313) sun ra

2003-10-09 Thread Michel Rijnders
On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 06:57, Philip wrote:
> Anyone heard the sun ra tribute on kindred spirits ? seems like there
> are lots of tracks from francisco mora / outerzone. His CD on planet e
> didn't do much for me so i don't really want more of the same. Ta.

Bought the 2LP about two weeks ago and it hasn't left my turntables
since. Though there are 6 Fransisco Mora/Outerzone Band tracks on it, 5
of them (Space Chord 1-5) are (really) short interludes. So go get it!
:o)

Cheers,
Michel



Re: (313) dreamgirl

2003-10-09 Thread Mark S . Krüx
>From Sonic Groove:

Label:  CHC (USA) CHC 001

Title:  Vol 1

Artist:  Chicago Housing Commision USA

Released:  2003

Configuration:  vinyl 12

Tracks:

Feel It Move
Phantasy Girl
Africa
The Way I Want Ya

Description:

Pumpin old school chicago house jams! Some acid some classic house period!

Planet X still has it listed as 'green' and here's a link to the samples
they posted:

http://www.planetxusa.com/pub/audio/djram/2003/131872.ram

- Original Message - 
From: "Sakari Karipuro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: (313) dreamgirl


Mark S. Krüx wrote on Thu, 9 Oct 2003 about following:

> Fantasy Girl was also repressed on that Chicago Housing Commission thingy
> this summergood quality too.

thats good news, i didn't find any info on this on discogs (or perhaps i
was looking for wrong things, who knows) so could you please tell
me more, so i can ask my local record dealer to find it for me :)


sakke
-- 
Timing must be perfect now.  Two-timing must be better than perfect.
http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/



Re: (313) dreamgirl

2003-10-09 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Mark S. Krüx wrote on Thu, 9 Oct 2003 about following:

> Fantasy Girl was also repressed on that Chicago Housing Commission thingy
> this summergood quality too.

thats good news, i didn't find any info on this on discogs (or perhaps i 
was looking for wrong things, who knows) so could you please tell 
me more, so i can ask my local record dealer to find it for me :)


sakke
-- 
Timing must be perfect now.  Two-timing must be better than perfect.
http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/


(313) telepathic apologies

2003-10-09 Thread FRED giannelli
Sincere telepathic apologies to TigerSushi for being confused and thinking
that they were bootlegging Psychic TV.  For the record they did not bootleg
the old Psychic TV track "Ov Power" for their TigerSushi release.  Charles
and I have cleared up this confusion directly.

It appears that TigerSushi is a reputable company licensing tracks from
another company that has a checkered past that they were not aware of.

It's not fun getting taken advantage of by people in the music business.
TigerSushi were stuck in the middle on this one.
My sentiments are always with the Artists.

Remember this Environ wisdom "then don't act surprised when artists can't
afford to make music anymore and labels go under."

telepathic regards,
fRED aka
the kooky scientist



Re: (313) sun ra

2003-10-09 Thread Maarten Baute
Thomas D. Cox wrote:
> "space is the place" on impulse is a good one that has song
> structure and is listenable that is also rather famous.

Thanks for the tip. And does anyone know on wich album the original "saga of
resistance" appeared? It is the song Theo Parrish remixed for the rushhour
related kindred spirits label.

TA,
Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com





Re: (313) dreamgirl

2003-10-09 Thread Mark S . Krüx
Fantasy Girl was also repressed on that Chicago Housing Commission thingy
this summergood quality too.

- Original Message - 
From: "Sakari Karipuro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Placid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: (313) dreamgirl


> Placid wrote on Thu, 9 Oct 2003 about following:
>
> > The big money one you want is fantasy girl. Originally out on SRO
records in
> > 1987.  Appeared on nu relics / house muzik in remixed form about 92/93
then
> > on trax re issues  - currently available
>
> killer track indeed. sadly, that fantasy girl repress on trax is really
> low quality; it's taken from worn-out-vinyl (you can hear some original
> snaps & cracks in it) and has very little high frequencies (because of
> that it's easy to identify it's taken from old vinyl since new snaps &
> cracks sound clear and the originals sound muddy). nevertheless, it's
> better than nothing. Dream Girl on the other side has a bit better sound
> quality though.
>
>
> sakke
> -- 
> Timing must be perfect now.  Two-timing must be better than perfect.
> http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/



Re: (313) dreamgirl

2003-10-09 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Placid wrote on Thu, 9 Oct 2003 about following:

> The big money one you want is fantasy girl. Originally out on SRO records in
> 1987.  Appeared on nu relics / house muzik in remixed form about 92/93 then
> on trax re issues  - currently available

killer track indeed. sadly, that fantasy girl repress on trax is really 
low quality; it's taken from worn-out-vinyl (you can hear some original 
snaps & cracks in it) and has very little high frequencies (because of 
that it's easy to identify it's taken from old vinyl since new snaps & 
cracks sound clear and the originals sound muddy). nevertheless, it's 
better than nothing. Dream Girl on the other side has a bit better sound 
quality though. 


sakke
-- 
Timing must be perfect now.  Two-timing must be better than perfect.
http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/


RE: (313) P(sychicTV)aging Met(h)ro(bbing gristle)plex Records

2003-10-09 Thread Rob Theakston

Neither would I  ;) 

Thanks for the kind words guys. I'll pass these on to the powers that be.

-Original Message-
From: Allen Goodman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 2:01 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) P(sychicTV)aging Met(h)ro(bbing gristle)plex Records

So true, I wouldn't know what I would do without AMG, and Discogs

>
>
>
>
> I'll direct your attention to All Music Guide
> http://www.allmusic.com
>
> search for Throbbing Gristle and you'll find a wealth of information -
> if you have about five hours then check all the links as well
>
> by the way - who were the people that came up with the idea of AMG? It
> has to be one of the most brilliant websites and resources ever. I use
> the website daily for music research and I'm beginning to have a nice
> stack of their books too.
> cheers to AMG and all the writers and staff!
>
> MEK
>
>
>
>
>  "Thomas D. Cox,
> Jr."
>   To:   <313@hyperreal.org>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]cc:
>
> h.com>   Subject:  RE: (313)
>  Paging Metroplex Records
>
>  10/09/03 12:40 PM
> Please respond
>  to
>  death
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>Just before everyone marches out of the saloon, could I possibly
>>steer the debate onto a less contentious area?
>>
>>There's a lot of mentioning of band names that I don't know, I've heard
>>a track by Genesis P Orridge (pretty tasty IMO) that he did
> for
>>one of the Sabres Of Paradise compilations a few years back now
>>(Septic Cuts IIRC) but don't know who Psychic TV and Coil are.
>>Basically, who are all these people/bands and how do they fit
> into
>>the techno firmament?
>>
>>Anyone care to enlighten me?
>
> wow. theres lots to learn. genesis p orrige was in throbbing
> gristle, the band that basically "invented" industrial music. PTV
> was a later project that was more acid house oriented, though not
> exclusively. coil is peter christopherson (also of throbbing
> gristle fame) and john balance. those guys are nuts, their records were
> very influential to me when i was like 15. without all that
> kind of stuff, id have never been able to get into techno house
> and jungle. theres so much more to say about these cats but i have to
> run to work.
>
> tom
>
> 
> andythepooh.com


-- 
Allen Goodman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.fksche.com





RE: (313) P(sychicTV)aging Met(h)ro(bbing gristle)plex Records

2003-10-09 Thread Allen Goodman
So true, I wouldn't know what I would do without AMG, and Discogs

>
>
>
>
> I'll direct your attention to All Music Guide
> http://www.allmusic.com
>
> search for Throbbing Gristle and you'll find a wealth of information -
> if you have about five hours then check all the links as well
>
> by the way - who were the people that came up with the idea of AMG? It
> has to be one of the most brilliant websites and resources ever. I use
> the website daily for music research and I'm beginning to have a nice
> stack of their books too.
> cheers to AMG and all the writers and staff!
>
> MEK
>
>
>
>
>  "Thomas D. Cox,
> Jr."
>   To:   <313@hyperreal.org>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]cc:
>
> h.com>   Subject:  RE: (313)
>  Paging Metroplex Records
>
>  10/09/03 12:40 PM
> Please respond
>  to
>  death
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>Just before everyone marches out of the saloon, could I possibly
>>steer the debate onto a less contentious area?
>>
>>There's a lot of mentioning of band names that I don't know, I've heard
>>a track by Genesis P Orridge (pretty tasty IMO) that he did
> for
>>one of the Sabres Of Paradise compilations a few years back now
>>(Septic Cuts IIRC) but don't know who Psychic TV and Coil are.
>>Basically, who are all these people/bands and how do they fit
> into
>>the techno firmament?
>>
>>Anyone care to enlighten me?
>
> wow. theres lots to learn. genesis p orrige was in throbbing
> gristle, the band that basically "invented" industrial music. PTV
> was a later project that was more acid house oriented, though not
> exclusively. coil is peter christopherson (also of throbbing
> gristle fame) and john balance. those guys are nuts, their records were
> very influential to me when i was like 15. without all that
> kind of stuff, id have never been able to get into techno house
> and jungle. theres so much more to say about these cats but i have to
> run to work.
>
> tom
>
> 
> andythepooh.com


-- 
Allen Goodman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.fksche.com




RE: (313) P(sychicTV)aging Met(h)ro(bbing gristle)plex Records

2003-10-09 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




I'll direct your attention to All Music Guide
http://www.allmusic.com

search for Throbbing Gristle and you'll find a wealth of information - if
you have about five hours then check all the links as well

by the way - who were the people that came up with the idea of AMG? It has
to be one of the most brilliant websites and resources ever. I use the
website daily for music research and I'm beginning to have a nice stack of
their books too.
cheers to AMG and all the writers and staff!

MEK




   
  "Thomas D. Cox,   
   
  Jr." To:   <313@hyperreal.org>
   
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: 

  h.com>   Subject:  RE: (313) Paging 
Metroplex Records

   
  10/09/03 12:40 PM 
   
  Please respond to 
   
  death 
   

   

   




-- Original Message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>Just before everyone marches out of the saloon, could I possibly
>steer the debate onto a less contentious area?
>
>There's a lot of mentioning of band names that I don't know, I've
>heard a track by Genesis P Orridge (pretty tasty IMO) that he did
for
>one of the Sabres Of Paradise compilations a few years back now
>(Septic Cuts IIRC) but don't know who Psychic TV and Coil are.
>Basically, who are all these people/bands and how do they fit
into
>the techno firmament?
>
>Anyone care to enlighten me?

wow. theres lots to learn. genesis p orrige was in throbbing
gristle, the band that basically "invented" industrial music. PTV
was a later project that was more acid house oriented, though not
exclusively. coil is peter christopherson (also of throbbing
gristle fame) and john balance. those guys are nuts, their records
were very influential to me when i was like 15. without all that
kind of stuff, id have never been able to get into techno house
and jungle. theres so much more to say about these cats but i have
to run to work.

tom


andythepooh.com









RE: (313) Re: OT tech probs

2003-10-09 Thread Sakari Karipuro
ian cheshire wrote on Thu, 9 Oct 2003 about following:

> ahh that it is it..also I was posting from Webmail ealier not Outlook like I
> thanks man for setting us all st8 :)

it could be a problem with mailing-list software also. it's possible
that it could break the mails that have some strange charset when 
compiling the digest.  i'm not too familiar with mailing list software 
so i'm not sure. 

sakke


Re: (313) Paging Metroplex Records

2003-10-09 Thread jonathan morse
yeah...genesis p orridge actually invented acid house, err...well, at least
he claims he did. no really, I swear. it says so right on his 'jack the tab'
compilation.

ok...ill stop now.


=)

> From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu,  9 Oct 2003 13:40:22 -0400
> To: <313@hyperreal.org>
> Subject: RE: (313) Paging Metroplex Records
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>> Just before everyone marches out of the saloon, could I possibly
>> steer the debate onto a less contentious area?
>> 
>> There's a lot of mentioning of band names that I don't know, I've
>> heard a track by Genesis P Orridge (pretty tasty IMO) that he did
> for 
>> one of the Sabres Of Paradise compilations a few years back now
>> (Septic Cuts IIRC) but don't know who Psychic TV and Coil are.
>> Basically, who are all these people/bands and how do they fit
> into 
>> the techno firmament?
>> 
>> Anyone care to enlighten me?
> 
> wow. theres lots to learn. genesis p orrige was in throbbing
> gristle, the band that basically "invented" industrial music. PTV
> was a later project that was more acid house oriented, though not
> exclusively. coil is peter christopherson (also of throbbing
> gristle fame) and john balance. those guys are nuts, their records
> were very influential to me when i was like 15. without all that
> kind of stuff, id have never been able to get into techno house
> and jungle. theres so much more to say about these cats but i have
> to run to work. 
> 
> tom 
> 
> 
> andythepooh.com
> 
> 
> 
>  



Re: (313) Chi-town events?

2003-10-09 Thread phollmer
Yeah, it's a decent venue. I was there for the Punisher show, when they
were 6x over capacity. It was sweltering in the basement - but I'm told
they've added fans, and were working on AC or something.

No cover = No PPA.

I might check out Traxx, I've got work commitments the next day - but they
close early (3am), so it won't be a late night.

On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> i just checked out tini-martini tonight for the first time. wicked
> basement place with loud sound and reasonable drinks. saw richard harvey
> tonight. looking foward to tracks even more.
>
> On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >
> > This'll cover anything worth noting from now until the 11th. ;)
> >
> > 10.8: DJ 3D @ Big Wig
> > 10.9: D:Fuse, Jay Prasad, Chris Gin @ Big Wig
> > 10.9: Ladytron DJ Mira Aroyo @ Smart Bar
> > 10.10: Localized @ Vision
> > 10.10: Timo Mass & Loco Dice @ HOB
> > 10.10: Heather @ Smart Bar
> > 10.11: LTJ Bukem, Makato & TC @ Progression Sessions @ Spundae
> > 10.11: Colette @ Smart Bar
> > 10.11: Behrouz & Jay Prasad @ Narcisse
> > 10.11: Traxx @ Tini Martini
> >
> > On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, Drew Daugherty wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all.  Anyone know of events happening in the Chicago area on the 10th
> > > or 11th?  Thanks in advance...
> > >
> > > -drew
> > >
> > >
> >
>


RE: (313) Paging Metroplex Records

2003-10-09 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>Just before everyone marches out of the saloon, could I possibly 
>steer the debate onto a less contentious area?
>
>There's a lot of mentioning of band names that I don't know, I've 
>heard a track by Genesis P Orridge (pretty tasty IMO) that he did 
for 
>one of the Sabres Of Paradise compilations a few years back now 
>(Septic Cuts IIRC) but don't know who Psychic TV and Coil are. 
>Basically, who are all these people/bands and how do they fit 
into 
>the techno firmament?
>
>Anyone care to enlighten me?

wow. theres lots to learn. genesis p orrige was in throbbing 
gristle, the band that basically "invented" industrial music. PTV 
was a later project that was more acid house oriented, though not 
exclusively. coil is peter christopherson (also of throbbing 
gristle fame) and john balance. those guys are nuts, their records 
were very influential to me when i was like 15. without all that 
kind of stuff, id have never been able to get into techno house 
and jungle. theres so much more to say about these cats but i have 
to run to work. 

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   


RE: (313) Paging Metroplex Records

2003-10-09 Thread dan

Just before everyone marches out of the saloon, could I possibly
steer the debate onto a less contentious area?

There's a lot of mentioning of band names that I don't know, I've
heard a track by Genesis P Orridge (pretty tasty IMO) that he did for
one of the Sabres Of Paradise compilations a few years back now
(Septic Cuts IIRC) but don't know who Psychic TV and Coil are.
Basically, who are all these people/bands and how do they fit into
the techno firmament?

Anyone care to enlighten me?

Thanks

Dan.

At 01:11 pm -0400 9/10/03, Rob Theakston wrote:

Ohhhkay I think we've reached the point of off-listlessness.

Take it outside the saloon cowboys, before I have Smitty the bartender call
the sheriff.

Ranger Rob




-Original Message-
From: Chuckie H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 1:08 PM
To: 'Rob Theakston'; 'FRED giannelli'; 313@hyperreal.org;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: (313) Paging Metroplex Records

Fred,

This is ridiculous.

First off: as for the METRO AREA track it's a license. You can ask MORGAN
GEIST DIRECT, if you wish to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] There's quite a
bootleg of Miura I believe that's been around for days but would you really
think Source would have let us go with releasing a previously unreleased
Metroi Area bootleg at the time they released their CD; That record (more
gdm 3) was quite everywhere and features proper credits. Just like the KIM
record does.

As for the Pyschic TV thing, it's also a license from SOME BIZARRE. You can
ask andy about it.

It's even them who provided the masters for the mastering session to the
Exchange then Metropolis.

Although I do appreciate your legacy as a part of Pyschic TV I would
appreciate you checked your facts before blurting them in the open.

Regards

Charles



TIGERSUSHI
15 rue d'Aboukir
75002 Paris
FRANCE
fon :+33.1.42.33.90.30
fax :+33.1.42.33.78.42
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.tigersushi.com

MEAT IS MURDER : http://www.tigersushi.com/site/kim

MU, PUNK ELECTROC SHOCK COMINATCHA IN MAY :
http://www.tigersushi.com/site/mu

WE HAVE SLAUGHTERED DEEJAYS FOR THE SAKE OF PURE FUN :
http://www.tigersushi.com/site/killthedj/

MORE GDM CD still available : http://www.tigersushi.com/site/moregdm/


-Original Message-
From: Rob Theakston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: jeudi 9 octobre 2003 19:00
To: 'FRED giannelli'; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: (313) Paging Metroplex Records



Uhhh I don't think they bootlegged Metro Area, Fredcan't confirm that
though...but I’m fairly certain they didn't.

-Original Message-
From: FRED giannelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 12:59 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: (313) Paging Metroplex Records

Not to mention this little item from Environ

Welcome to the third edition of the Environ Newsletter!
Feel free to forward this to friends/label/press.

A Word on Bootlegs

Apologies, but we'll start on a bad note so we don't have to end on one.
We've noticed bootlegs of Environ material surfacing, often a whole track of
ours with a simple a capella over it. DJ's used to call that "mixing" before
cheap opportunists decided to sell it on wax.

Let us be clear: bootlegging kills labels and artist careers. If you buy
bootlegs of our music, or distribute it, or stock it in your shop, you help
to kill us. Do not tell yourself otherwise. Our originals are regularly
repressed (see below) and even if they were rare it still would not justify
bootlegging (despite their rarity and the difficulty faced in tracking down
the owners, we license and pay for every Unclassics reissue we do!)  If you
are bootlegging, we'll track you down and pursue legal action. If you are a
shop or distributor peddling Environ boots and we find out, we will cease to
do business with you. It is bad for everyone but the bootleggers.

Without your support, we will disappear. We will lose the opportunity to get
our hard work to your ears. If you care for Environ and its artists, and
want to keep hearing us, please do not support bootlegs. Thanks for reading.


on 10/9/03 12:56 PM, FRED giannelli at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 --
 From: FRED giannelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 12:53:22 -0400
 To: Chuckie H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Subject: Re: (313) Paging Metroplex Records

 Well, I used to be a member of Psychic TV and you bootlegged "Ov Power" on
 one of your records didn't you ?

 telepathic regards,
 the kooky scientist

 on 10/9/03 12:47 PM, Chuckie H at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 No we actually license each and every track and never bootlegged any.
 Thanks for the insinuation.

 What's your problem?




 TIGERSUSHI
 15 rue d'Aboukir
 75002 Paris
 FRANCE
 fon :+33.1.42.33.90.30
 fax :+33.1.42.33.78.42
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.tigersushi.com

 MEAT IS MURDER : http://www.tigersushi.com/site/kim

 MU, PUNK ELECTROC SHOCK COMINATCHA IN MAY :
 http://www.tigersushi.com/site/mu

 

Re: (313) sun ra

2003-10-09 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

- Original Message --
From: "Maarten Baute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>Speaking of Sun Ra. Can anyone recommend a few essential sun ra
albums, that
>are pleasant to listen to (ie. not too experimental)? I really
like the
>"lanquidity" album. I think it´s great!!

"space is the place" on impulse is a good one that has song
structure and is listenable that is also rather famous.

tom


andythepooh.com







RE: (313) Re: OT tech probs

2003-10-09 Thread ian cheshire
ahh that it is it..also I was posting from Webmail ealier not Outlook like I
am now..mind you
I am used to the blame,,,remember I am married ;0) ha ha

thanks man for setting us all st8 :)

-Original Message-
From: Sakari Karipuro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 October 2003 16:48
To: 313
Subject: Re: (313) Re: OT tech probs


Matthew Kane wrote on Thu, 9 Oct 2003 about following:

> They always seem to come from Ian Cheshire. I am on digest mode reading on
> Eudora and/or Pine and I get the same either way.

it's because Ian's mails use UTF-8 as charset and your OS doesn't
support it.


sakke
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Re: (313) juan atkins/big fun

2003-10-09 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message --
From: "john harvey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>> >what is the point of remixing big fun?
>> derrick may did a heck of a job rmxing that track. 
>
>i haven't heard may's remix

i have the virgin 12" single 
(http://www.discogs.com/release/39861) from the "techno! - the new 
dance sound of detroit" era, b2 is the "kick the pump" mix by 
mayday. very nice 909 and edits make it sound heavily rhythim is 
rhythim-esque. im going to have to drop this one next time i 
deejay, see how it goes over. 

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   


RE: (313) Paging Metroplex Records

2003-10-09 Thread Rob Theakston

Ohhhkay I think we've reached the point of off-listlessness.

Take it outside the saloon cowboys, before I have Smitty the bartender call
the sheriff.

Ranger Rob




-Original Message-
From: Chuckie H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 1:08 PM
To: 'Rob Theakston'; 'FRED giannelli'; 313@hyperreal.org;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: (313) Paging Metroplex Records

Fred, 

This is ridiculous.

First off: as for the METRO AREA track it's a license. You can ask MORGAN
GEIST DIRECT, if you wish to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] There's quite a
bootleg of Miura I believe that's been around for days but would you really
think Source would have let us go with releasing a previously unreleased
Metroi Area bootleg at the time they released their CD; That record (more
gdm 3) was quite everywhere and features proper credits. Just like the KIM
record does.

As for the Pyschic TV thing, it's also a license from SOME BIZARRE. You can
ask andy about it.

It's even them who provided the masters for the mastering session to the
Exchange then Metropolis.

Although I do appreciate your legacy as a part of Pyschic TV I would
appreciate you checked your facts before blurting them in the open.

Regards

Charles

  

TIGERSUSHI 
15 rue d'Aboukir
75002 Paris 
FRANCE
fon :+33.1.42.33.90.30
fax :+33.1.42.33.78.42
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.tigersushi.com 

MEAT IS MURDER : http://www.tigersushi.com/site/kim 

MU, PUNK ELECTROC SHOCK COMINATCHA IN MAY :
http://www.tigersushi.com/site/mu

WE HAVE SLAUGHTERED DEEJAYS FOR THE SAKE OF PURE FUN :
http://www.tigersushi.com/site/killthedj/

MORE GDM CD still available : http://www.tigersushi.com/site/moregdm/


-Original Message-
From: Rob Theakston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: jeudi 9 octobre 2003 19:00
To: 'FRED giannelli'; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: (313) Paging Metroplex Records



Uhhh I don't think they bootlegged Metro Area, Fredcan't confirm that
though...but I’m fairly certain they didn't.

-Original Message-
From: FRED giannelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 12:59 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: (313) Paging Metroplex Records

Not to mention this little item from Environ

Welcome to the third edition of the Environ Newsletter!
Feel free to forward this to friends/label/press.

A Word on Bootlegs

Apologies, but we'll start on a bad note so we don't have to end on one.
We've noticed bootlegs of Environ material surfacing, often a whole track of
ours with a simple a capella over it. DJ's used to call that "mixing" before
cheap opportunists decided to sell it on wax.

Let us be clear: bootlegging kills labels and artist careers. If you buy
bootlegs of our music, or distribute it, or stock it in your shop, you help
to kill us. Do not tell yourself otherwise. Our originals are regularly
repressed (see below) and even if they were rare it still would not justify
bootlegging (despite their rarity and the difficulty faced in tracking down
the owners, we license and pay for every Unclassics reissue we do!)  If you
are bootlegging, we'll track you down and pursue legal action. If you are a
shop or distributor peddling Environ boots and we find out, we will cease to
do business with you. It is bad for everyone but the bootleggers.

Without your support, we will disappear. We will lose the opportunity to get
our hard work to your ears. If you care for Environ and its artists, and
want to keep hearing us, please do not support bootlegs. Thanks for reading.


on 10/9/03 12:56 PM, FRED giannelli at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> --
> From: FRED giannelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 12:53:22 -0400
> To: Chuckie H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: (313) Paging Metroplex Records
> 
> Well, I used to be a member of Psychic TV and you bootlegged "Ov Power" on
> one of your records didn't you ?
> 
> telepathic regards,
> the kooky scientist
> 
> on 10/9/03 12:47 PM, Chuckie H at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> No we actually license each and every track and never bootlegged any.
>> Thanks for the insinuation.
>> 
>> What's your problem?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> TIGERSUSHI 
>> 15 rue d'Aboukir
>> 75002 Paris 
>> FRANCE
>> fon :+33.1.42.33.90.30
>> fax :+33.1.42.33.78.42
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> http://www.tigersushi.com
>> 
>> MEAT IS MURDER : http://www.tigersushi.com/site/kim
>> 
>> MU, PUNK ELECTROC SHOCK COMINATCHA IN MAY :
>> http://www.tigersushi.com/site/mu
>> 
>> WE HAVE SLAUGHTERED DEEJAYS FOR THE SAKE OF PURE FUN :
>> http://www.tigersushi.com/site/killthedj/
>> 
>> MORE GDM CD still available : http://www.tigersushi.com/site/moregdm/
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: FRED giannelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: jeudi 9 octobre 2003 18:39
>> To: Chuckie H; 313@hyperreal.org
>> Subject: Re: (313) Paging Metroplex Records
>> 
>> Why would you actually want to get in touch with Metroplex ?  Aren't you
>> guys boo

Re: (313) Paging Metroplex Records

2003-10-09 Thread FRED giannelli
I don't know yet ? 

I'm trying to get to the bottom of the PTV "Ov Power" release for Genesis
P-Orridge.  If I remember correctly there was no mention of it being a
licensed track or even credited as a Psychic TV track on the TigerSushi
release.

Apparently, TigerSushi claims they licensed it from Some Bizarre which could
be true.
If they are licensing stuff from Some Bizarre then you are dealing with
crooks.  Apparently they are not aware of the Coil and PTV relations with
Some Bizarre ?  Not to mention everyone else that used to deal with Stevo.
I mean Coil went to the trouble of releasing some of their Some Bizarre
releases with this printed across the front "When are you going to pay us
our royalties, Stevo ?"  I would have assumed you would have noticed that.

Why didn't they just contact the artists directly ?

telepathic regards,
fRED

on 10/9/03 12:58 PM, Brendan Nelson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> So are you alleging that they have bootlegged Environ releases?
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: FRED giannelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 09 October 2003 17:59
>> To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: (313) Paging Metroplex Records
>> 
>> 
>> Not to mention this little item from Environ
>> 
>> Welcome to the third edition of the Environ Newsletter!
>> Feel free to forward this to friends/label/press.
>> 
>> A Word on Bootlegs
>> 
>> Apologies, but we'll start on a bad note so we don't have to
>> end on one.
>> We've noticed bootlegs of Environ material surfacing, often a
>> whole track of
>> ours with a simple a capella over it. DJ's used to call that
>> "mixing" before
>> cheap opportunists decided to sell it on wax.
>> 
>> Let us be clear: bootlegging kills labels and artist careers.
>> If you buy
>> bootlegs of our music, or distribute it, or stock it in your
>> shop, you help
>> to kill us. Do not tell yourself otherwise. Our originals are
>> regularly
>> repressed (see below) and even if they were rare it still
>> would not justify
>> bootlegging (despite their rarity and the difficulty faced in
>> tracking down
>> the owners, we license and pay for every Unclassics reissue
>> we do!)  If you
>> are bootlegging, we'll track you down and pursue legal
>> action. If you are a
>> shop or distributor peddling Environ boots and we find out,
>> we will cease to
>> do business with you. It is bad for everyone but the bootleggers.
>> 
>> Without your support, we will disappear. We will lose the
>> opportunity to get
>> our hard work to your ears. If you care for Environ and its
>> artists, and
>> want to keep hearing us, please do not support bootlegs.
>> Thanks for reading.
>> 
>> 



RE: (313) Paging Metroplex Records

2003-10-09 Thread Chuckie H
Fred, 

This is ridiculous.

First off: as for the METRO AREA track it's a license. You can ask MORGAN
GEIST DIRECT, if you wish to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] There's quite a
bootleg of Miura I believe that's been around for days but would you really
think Source would have let us go with releasing a previously unreleased
Metroi Area bootleg at the time they released their CD; That record (more
gdm 3) was quite everywhere and features proper credits. Just like the KIM
record does.

As for the Pyschic TV thing, it's also a license from SOME BIZARRE. You can
ask andy about it.

It's even them who provided the masters for the mastering session to the
Exchange then Metropolis.

Although I do appreciate your legacy as a part of Pyschic TV I would
appreciate you checked your facts before blurting them in the open.

Regards

Charles

  

TIGERSUSHI 
15 rue d'Aboukir
75002 Paris 
FRANCE
fon :+33.1.42.33.90.30
fax :+33.1.42.33.78.42
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.tigersushi.com 

MEAT IS MURDER : http://www.tigersushi.com/site/kim 

MU, PUNK ELECTROC SHOCK COMINATCHA IN MAY :
http://www.tigersushi.com/site/mu

WE HAVE SLAUGHTERED DEEJAYS FOR THE SAKE OF PURE FUN :
http://www.tigersushi.com/site/killthedj/

MORE GDM CD still available : http://www.tigersushi.com/site/moregdm/


-Original Message-
From: Rob Theakston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: jeudi 9 octobre 2003 19:00
To: 'FRED giannelli'; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: (313) Paging Metroplex Records



Uhhh I don't think they bootlegged Metro Area, Fredcan't confirm that
though...but I’m fairly certain they didn't.

-Original Message-
From: FRED giannelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 12:59 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: (313) Paging Metroplex Records

Not to mention this little item from Environ

Welcome to the third edition of the Environ Newsletter!
Feel free to forward this to friends/label/press.

A Word on Bootlegs

Apologies, but we'll start on a bad note so we don't have to end on one.
We've noticed bootlegs of Environ material surfacing, often a whole track of
ours with a simple a capella over it. DJ's used to call that "mixing" before
cheap opportunists decided to sell it on wax.

Let us be clear: bootlegging kills labels and artist careers. If you buy
bootlegs of our music, or distribute it, or stock it in your shop, you help
to kill us. Do not tell yourself otherwise. Our originals are regularly
repressed (see below) and even if they were rare it still would not justify
bootlegging (despite their rarity and the difficulty faced in tracking down
the owners, we license and pay for every Unclassics reissue we do!)  If you
are bootlegging, we'll track you down and pursue legal action. If you are a
shop or distributor peddling Environ boots and we find out, we will cease to
do business with you. It is bad for everyone but the bootleggers.

Without your support, we will disappear. We will lose the opportunity to get
our hard work to your ears. If you care for Environ and its artists, and
want to keep hearing us, please do not support bootlegs. Thanks for reading.


on 10/9/03 12:56 PM, FRED giannelli at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> --
> From: FRED giannelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 12:53:22 -0400
> To: Chuckie H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: (313) Paging Metroplex Records
> 
> Well, I used to be a member of Psychic TV and you bootlegged "Ov Power" on
> one of your records didn't you ?
> 
> telepathic regards,
> the kooky scientist
> 
> on 10/9/03 12:47 PM, Chuckie H at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> No we actually license each and every track and never bootlegged any.
>> Thanks for the insinuation.
>> 
>> What's your problem?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> TIGERSUSHI 
>> 15 rue d'Aboukir
>> 75002 Paris 
>> FRANCE
>> fon :+33.1.42.33.90.30
>> fax :+33.1.42.33.78.42
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> http://www.tigersushi.com
>> 
>> MEAT IS MURDER : http://www.tigersushi.com/site/kim
>> 
>> MU, PUNK ELECTROC SHOCK COMINATCHA IN MAY :
>> http://www.tigersushi.com/site/mu
>> 
>> WE HAVE SLAUGHTERED DEEJAYS FOR THE SAKE OF PURE FUN :
>> http://www.tigersushi.com/site/killthedj/
>> 
>> MORE GDM CD still available : http://www.tigersushi.com/site/moregdm/
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: FRED giannelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: jeudi 9 octobre 2003 18:39
>> To: Chuckie H; 313@hyperreal.org
>> Subject: Re: (313) Paging Metroplex Records
>> 
>> Why would you actually want to get in touch with Metroplex ?  Aren't you
>> guys bootleggers that never actually pay to license tracks ?
>> 
>> telepathic regards,
>> the kooky scientist
>> 
>> on 10/7/03 7:38 PM, Chuckie H at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello, would like to get in touch with Metroplex records seeking fax n°
or
>>> email.
>>> The fax n° I found on discogs seems to belong to a poor fellow who is
>>> getting rings everyday.
>>> 
>>> Thanks a lot 313sters
>>> 
>>> 
>>> TIGERSUSHI

RE: (313) Paging Metroplex Records

2003-10-09 Thread Brendan Nelson
So are you alleging that they have bootlegged Environ releases?

> -Original Message-
> From: FRED giannelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 09 October 2003 17:59
> To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: (313) Paging Metroplex Records
> 
> 
> Not to mention this little item from Environ
> 
> Welcome to the third edition of the Environ Newsletter!
> Feel free to forward this to friends/label/press.
> 
> A Word on Bootlegs
> 
> Apologies, but we'll start on a bad note so we don't have to 
> end on one.
> We've noticed bootlegs of Environ material surfacing, often a 
> whole track of
> ours with a simple a capella over it. DJ's used to call that 
> "mixing" before
> cheap opportunists decided to sell it on wax.
> 
> Let us be clear: bootlegging kills labels and artist careers. 
> If you buy
> bootlegs of our music, or distribute it, or stock it in your 
> shop, you help
> to kill us. Do not tell yourself otherwise. Our originals are 
> regularly
> repressed (see below) and even if they were rare it still 
> would not justify
> bootlegging (despite their rarity and the difficulty faced in 
> tracking down
> the owners, we license and pay for every Unclassics reissue 
> we do!)  If you
> are bootlegging, we'll track you down and pursue legal 
> action. If you are a
> shop or distributor peddling Environ boots and we find out, 
> we will cease to
> do business with you. It is bad for everyone but the bootleggers.
> 
> Without your support, we will disappear. We will lose the 
> opportunity to get
> our hard work to your ears. If you care for Environ and its 
> artists, and
> want to keep hearing us, please do not support bootlegs. 
> Thanks for reading.
> 
> 


RE: (313) Paging Metroplex Records

2003-10-09 Thread Rob Theakston


Uhhh I don't think they bootlegged Metro Area, Fredcan't confirm that
though...but I’m fairly certain they didn't.

-Original Message-
From: FRED giannelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 12:59 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: (313) Paging Metroplex Records

Not to mention this little item from Environ

Welcome to the third edition of the Environ Newsletter!
Feel free to forward this to friends/label/press.

A Word on Bootlegs

Apologies, but we'll start on a bad note so we don't have to end on one.
We've noticed bootlegs of Environ material surfacing, often a whole track of
ours with a simple a capella over it. DJ's used to call that "mixing" before
cheap opportunists decided to sell it on wax.

Let us be clear: bootlegging kills labels and artist careers. If you buy
bootlegs of our music, or distribute it, or stock it in your shop, you help
to kill us. Do not tell yourself otherwise. Our originals are regularly
repressed (see below) and even if they were rare it still would not justify
bootlegging (despite their rarity and the difficulty faced in tracking down
the owners, we license and pay for every Unclassics reissue we do!)  If you
are bootlegging, we'll track you down and pursue legal action. If you are a
shop or distributor peddling Environ boots and we find out, we will cease to
do business with you. It is bad for everyone but the bootleggers.

Without your support, we will disappear. We will lose the opportunity to get
our hard work to your ears. If you care for Environ and its artists, and
want to keep hearing us, please do not support bootlegs. Thanks for reading.


on 10/9/03 12:56 PM, FRED giannelli at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> --
> From: FRED giannelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 12:53:22 -0400
> To: Chuckie H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: (313) Paging Metroplex Records
> 
> Well, I used to be a member of Psychic TV and you bootlegged "Ov Power" on
> one of your records didn't you ?
> 
> telepathic regards,
> the kooky scientist
> 
> on 10/9/03 12:47 PM, Chuckie H at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> No we actually license each and every track and never bootlegged any.
>> Thanks for the insinuation.
>> 
>> What's your problem?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> TIGERSUSHI 
>> 15 rue d'Aboukir
>> 75002 Paris 
>> FRANCE
>> fon :+33.1.42.33.90.30
>> fax :+33.1.42.33.78.42
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> http://www.tigersushi.com
>> 
>> MEAT IS MURDER : http://www.tigersushi.com/site/kim
>> 
>> MU, PUNK ELECTROC SHOCK COMINATCHA IN MAY :
>> http://www.tigersushi.com/site/mu
>> 
>> WE HAVE SLAUGHTERED DEEJAYS FOR THE SAKE OF PURE FUN :
>> http://www.tigersushi.com/site/killthedj/
>> 
>> MORE GDM CD still available : http://www.tigersushi.com/site/moregdm/
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: FRED giannelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: jeudi 9 octobre 2003 18:39
>> To: Chuckie H; 313@hyperreal.org
>> Subject: Re: (313) Paging Metroplex Records
>> 
>> Why would you actually want to get in touch with Metroplex ?  Aren't you
>> guys bootleggers that never actually pay to license tracks ?
>> 
>> telepathic regards,
>> the kooky scientist
>> 
>> on 10/7/03 7:38 PM, Chuckie H at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello, would like to get in touch with Metroplex records seeking fax n°
or
>>> email.
>>> The fax n° I found on discogs seems to belong to a poor fellow who is
>>> getting rings everyday.
>>> 
>>> Thanks a lot 313sters
>>> 
>>> 
>>> TIGERSUSHI 
>>> 15 rue d'Aboukir
>>> 75002 Paris 
>>> FRANCE
>>> fon :+33.1.42.33.90.30
>>> fax :+33.1.42.33.78.42
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> http://www.tigersushi.com
>>> 
>>> MEAT IS MURDER : http://www.tigersushi.com/site/kim
>>> 
>>> MU, PUNK ELECTROC SHOCK COMINATCHA IN MAY :
>>> http://www.tigersushi.com/site/mu
>>> 
>>> WE HAVE SLAUGHTERED DEEJAYS FOR THE SAKE OF PURE FUN :
>>> http://www.tigersushi.com/site/killthedj/
>>> 
>>> MORE GDM CD still available : http://www.tigersushi.com/site/moregdm/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 




Re: (313) Paging Metroplex Records

2003-10-09 Thread FRED giannelli
Not to mention this little item from Environ

Welcome to the third edition of the Environ Newsletter!
Feel free to forward this to friends/label/press.

A Word on Bootlegs

Apologies, but we'll start on a bad note so we don't have to end on one.
We've noticed bootlegs of Environ material surfacing, often a whole track of
ours with a simple a capella over it. DJ's used to call that "mixing" before
cheap opportunists decided to sell it on wax.

Let us be clear: bootlegging kills labels and artist careers. If you buy
bootlegs of our music, or distribute it, or stock it in your shop, you help
to kill us. Do not tell yourself otherwise. Our originals are regularly
repressed (see below) and even if they were rare it still would not justify
bootlegging (despite their rarity and the difficulty faced in tracking down
the owners, we license and pay for every Unclassics reissue we do!)  If you
are bootlegging, we'll track you down and pursue legal action. If you are a
shop or distributor peddling Environ boots and we find out, we will cease to
do business with you. It is bad for everyone but the bootleggers.

Without your support, we will disappear. We will lose the opportunity to get
our hard work to your ears. If you care for Environ and its artists, and
want to keep hearing us, please do not support bootlegs. Thanks for reading.


on 10/9/03 12:56 PM, FRED giannelli at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> --
> From: FRED giannelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 12:53:22 -0400
> To: Chuckie H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: (313) Paging Metroplex Records
> 
> Well, I used to be a member of Psychic TV and you bootlegged "Ov Power" on
> one of your records didn't you ?
> 
> telepathic regards,
> the kooky scientist
> 
> on 10/9/03 12:47 PM, Chuckie H at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> No we actually license each and every track and never bootlegged any.
>> Thanks for the insinuation.
>> 
>> What's your problem?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> TIGERSUSHI 
>> 15 rue d'Aboukir
>> 75002 Paris 
>> FRANCE
>> fon :+33.1.42.33.90.30
>> fax :+33.1.42.33.78.42
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> http://www.tigersushi.com
>> 
>> MEAT IS MURDER : http://www.tigersushi.com/site/kim
>> 
>> MU, PUNK ELECTROC SHOCK COMINATCHA IN MAY :
>> http://www.tigersushi.com/site/mu
>> 
>> WE HAVE SLAUGHTERED DEEJAYS FOR THE SAKE OF PURE FUN :
>> http://www.tigersushi.com/site/killthedj/
>> 
>> MORE GDM CD still available : http://www.tigersushi.com/site/moregdm/
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: FRED giannelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: jeudi 9 octobre 2003 18:39
>> To: Chuckie H; 313@hyperreal.org
>> Subject: Re: (313) Paging Metroplex Records
>> 
>> Why would you actually want to get in touch with Metroplex ?  Aren't you
>> guys bootleggers that never actually pay to license tracks ?
>> 
>> telepathic regards,
>> the kooky scientist
>> 
>> on 10/7/03 7:38 PM, Chuckie H at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello, would like to get in touch with Metroplex records seeking fax n° or
>>> email.
>>> The fax n° I found on discogs seems to belong to a poor fellow who is
>>> getting rings everyday.
>>> 
>>> Thanks a lot 313sters
>>> 
>>> 
>>> TIGERSUSHI 
>>> 15 rue d'Aboukir
>>> 75002 Paris 
>>> FRANCE
>>> fon :+33.1.42.33.90.30
>>> fax :+33.1.42.33.78.42
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> http://www.tigersushi.com
>>> 
>>> MEAT IS MURDER : http://www.tigersushi.com/site/kim
>>> 
>>> MU, PUNK ELECTROC SHOCK COMINATCHA IN MAY :
>>> http://www.tigersushi.com/site/mu
>>> 
>>> WE HAVE SLAUGHTERED DEEJAYS FOR THE SAKE OF PURE FUN :
>>> http://www.tigersushi.com/site/killthedj/
>>> 
>>> MORE GDM CD still available : http://www.tigersushi.com/site/moregdm/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 



FW: (313) Paging Metroplex Records

2003-10-09 Thread FRED giannelli

--
From: FRED giannelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 12:53:22 -0400
To: Chuckie H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: (313) Paging Metroplex Records

Well, I used to be a member of Psychic TV and you bootlegged "Ov Power" on
one of your records didn't you ?

telepathic regards,
the kooky scientist

on 10/9/03 12:47 PM, Chuckie H at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> No we actually license each and every track and never bootlegged any.
> Thanks for the insinuation.
> 
> What's your problem?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> TIGERSUSHI 
> 15 rue d'Aboukir
> 75002 Paris 
> FRANCE
> fon :+33.1.42.33.90.30
> fax :+33.1.42.33.78.42
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.tigersushi.com
> 
> MEAT IS MURDER : http://www.tigersushi.com/site/kim
> 
> MU, PUNK ELECTROC SHOCK COMINATCHA IN MAY :
> http://www.tigersushi.com/site/mu
> 
> WE HAVE SLAUGHTERED DEEJAYS FOR THE SAKE OF PURE FUN :
> http://www.tigersushi.com/site/killthedj/
> 
> MORE GDM CD still available : http://www.tigersushi.com/site/moregdm/
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: FRED giannelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: jeudi 9 octobre 2003 18:39
> To: Chuckie H; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (313) Paging Metroplex Records
> 
> Why would you actually want to get in touch with Metroplex ?  Aren't you
> guys bootleggers that never actually pay to license tracks ?
> 
> telepathic regards,
> the kooky scientist
> 
> on 10/7/03 7:38 PM, Chuckie H at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> Hello, would like to get in touch with Metroplex records seeking fax n° or
>> email.
>> The fax n° I found on discogs seems to belong to a poor fellow who is
>> getting rings everyday.
>> 
>> Thanks a lot 313sters
>> 
>> 
>> TIGERSUSHI 
>> 15 rue d'Aboukir
>> 75002 Paris 
>> FRANCE
>> fon :+33.1.42.33.90.30
>> fax :+33.1.42.33.78.42
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> http://www.tigersushi.com
>> 
>> MEAT IS MURDER : http://www.tigersushi.com/site/kim
>> 
>> MU, PUNK ELECTROC SHOCK COMINATCHA IN MAY :
>> http://www.tigersushi.com/site/mu
>> 
>> WE HAVE SLAUGHTERED DEEJAYS FOR THE SAKE OF PURE FUN :
>> http://www.tigersushi.com/site/killthedj/
>> 
>> MORE GDM CD still available : http://www.tigersushi.com/site/moregdm/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 



RE: (313) Paging Metroplex Records

2003-10-09 Thread Chuckie H
No we actually license each and every track and never bootlegged any.
Thanks for the insinuation.

What's your problem?


  

TIGERSUSHI 
15 rue d'Aboukir
75002 Paris 
FRANCE
fon :+33.1.42.33.90.30
fax :+33.1.42.33.78.42
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.tigersushi.com 

MEAT IS MURDER : http://www.tigersushi.com/site/kim 

MU, PUNK ELECTROC SHOCK COMINATCHA IN MAY :
http://www.tigersushi.com/site/mu

WE HAVE SLAUGHTERED DEEJAYS FOR THE SAKE OF PURE FUN :
http://www.tigersushi.com/site/killthedj/

MORE GDM CD still available : http://www.tigersushi.com/site/moregdm/


-Original Message-
From: FRED giannelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: jeudi 9 octobre 2003 18:39
To: Chuckie H; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Paging Metroplex Records

Why would you actually want to get in touch with Metroplex ?  Aren't you
guys bootleggers that never actually pay to license tracks ?

telepathic regards,
the kooky scientist

on 10/7/03 7:38 PM, Chuckie H at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello, would like to get in touch with Metroplex records seeking fax n° or
> email.
> The fax n° I found on discogs seems to belong to a poor fellow who is
> getting rings everyday.
> 
> Thanks a lot 313sters
> 
> 
> TIGERSUSHI 
> 15 rue d'Aboukir
> 75002 Paris 
> FRANCE
> fon :+33.1.42.33.90.30
> fax :+33.1.42.33.78.42
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.tigersushi.com
> 
> MEAT IS MURDER : http://www.tigersushi.com/site/kim
> 
> MU, PUNK ELECTROC SHOCK COMINATCHA IN MAY :
> http://www.tigersushi.com/site/mu
> 
> WE HAVE SLAUGHTERED DEEJAYS FOR THE SAKE OF PURE FUN :
> http://www.tigersushi.com/site/killthedj/
> 
> MORE GDM CD still available : http://www.tigersushi.com/site/moregdm/
> 
> 
> 
> 





Re: (313) Paging Metroplex Records

2003-10-09 Thread FRED giannelli
Why would you actually want to get in touch with Metroplex ?  Aren't you
guys bootleggers that never actually pay to license tracks ?

telepathic regards,
the kooky scientist

on 10/7/03 7:38 PM, Chuckie H at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello, would like to get in touch with Metroplex records seeking fax n° or
> email.
> The fax n° I found on discogs seems to belong to a poor fellow who is
> getting rings everyday.
> 
> Thanks a lot 313sters
> 
> 
> TIGERSUSHI 
> 15 rue d'Aboukir
> 75002 Paris 
> FRANCE
> fon :+33.1.42.33.90.30
> fax :+33.1.42.33.78.42
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.tigersushi.com
> 
> MEAT IS MURDER : http://www.tigersushi.com/site/kim
> 
> MU, PUNK ELECTROC SHOCK COMINATCHA IN MAY :
> http://www.tigersushi.com/site/mu
> 
> WE HAVE SLAUGHTERED DEEJAYS FOR THE SAKE OF PURE FUN :
> http://www.tigersushi.com/site/killthedj/
> 
> MORE GDM CD still available : http://www.tigersushi.com/site/moregdm/
> 
> 
> 
> 



Re: (313) sun ra

2003-10-09 Thread Maarten Baute
Speaking of Sun Ra. Can anyone recommend a few essential sun ra albums, that
are pleasant to listen to (ie. not too experimental)? I really like the
"lanquidity" album. I think it´s great!!

Thanks,
Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com



(313) Radio One!!!

2003-10-09 Thread kev
hello 313sters,

so far my attempts at mailing have not worked- if u are reading this- i have
finally got thru!!

anyway- radio 1.. i think they are kind of a nasty compromise.. u do get the
odd interesting mix or tune every now and then. fergie played one of my
tracks, which was nice cos there was no promotion, no hype, he just liked it
and played it.. normally, especially with the likes of tongy, seb fontaine
etc, you won't get things played unless there is serious promotion or
connections behind something.

my major problem with radio 1 is the essential mix.. it really has gone
downhill.  i rememeber the days of tuning in and being surprised- new
sounds, new DJs.. now its a mixture of the same croneys, same sound most
weeks..
the recent exception being an excellent mix by DJ Heather from Chicago- that
was cool... anyway, theres my ten pence worth.. feel free to rip me to
shreds : )

kevin G de la Wild Loops



Re: (313) Re: OT tech probs

2003-10-09 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Matthew Kane wrote on Thu, 9 Oct 2003 about following:

> They always seem to come from Ian Cheshire. I am on digest mode reading on 
> Eudora and/or Pine and I get the same either way.

it's because Ian's mails use UTF-8 as charset and your OS doesn't 
support it.


sakke
-- 
Timing must be perfect now.  Two-timing must be better than perfect.
http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/


RE: (313) sun ra

2003-10-09 Thread alex . bond

> for all those in nyc he's playing tonight at APT w/ Metro Area 

phew! that sounds alright.

if anyone goes, let us know how it was? please!
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RE: (313) sun ra

2003-10-09 Thread Grammenos, Peter

Speaking of theo, I picked up SS012 last night at dance tracks, "Insane
Asylum" is pretty dope, especially considering it was made in 1987! Or was
it?

The pressing is damn awful though.

Btw for all those in nyc he's playing tonight at APT w/ Metro Area 

-Pete


-Original Message-
From: ryan burns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 11:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) sun ra




the theo parrish remix of sun ra was the shizzzl

ryan


>From: "Philip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: (313) sun ra
>Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:57:40 +1000
>
>
>Anyone heard the sun ra tribute on kindred spirits ? seems like there 
>are lots of tracks from francisco mora / outerzone. His CD on planet e 
>didn't do much for me so i don't really want more of the same. Ta.
>
>p
>
>

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Re: (313) sun ra

2003-10-09 Thread ryan burns



the theo parrish remix of sun ra was the shizzzl

ryan



From: "Philip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: (313) sun ra
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:57:40 +1000


Anyone heard the sun ra tribute on kindred spirits ? seems like there
are lots of tracks from francisco mora / outerzone. His CD on planet e
didn't do much for me so i don't really want more of the same. Ta.

p




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Re: (313) Re: OT tech probs

2003-10-09 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




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Ah, for a second I thought maybe the pills were finally starting to kick
in...

MEK




   
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  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To:   "313" 
<313@hyperreal.org>
  lworld.com>   cc:
Subject:  Re: (313) Re: OT tech 
probs
  10/09/03 09:34 AM
   
   




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and thats the answer to the meaning of life itself.

john




- Original Message -
From: "Matthew Kane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 3:26 PM
Subject: (313) Re: OT tech probspiy;ip9;iu;8998

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>
> They always seem to come from Ian Cheshire. I am on digest mode reading
on
> Eudora and/or Pine and I get the same either way.
>
>
> --
> unsigned short int to_yer_mama;
> http://hydrogen.doesntexist.org
> Matthew Kane : Driver Developer : Atlantek, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>







Re: (313) dreamgirl

2003-10-09 Thread Placid
The big money one you want is fantasy girl. Originally out on SRO records in
1987.  Appeared on nu relics / house muzik in remixed form about 92/93 then
on trax re issues  - currently available

Dream girl appeared originally on hot mix 5.  Also on british jack tracks
but without the accapella. Still a great tune in my book

Mystery girl - originally on international house records..not been repressed
at all  I think...

Never give up - dance mania.

Got the bug - trax


On 9/10/03 3:29 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> arrggghh,
> 
> can anyone help?
> 
> Pierres Phantasy Club - Dream Girl
> 
> Isn't this the one that goes for mad money?
> is that on a US press - or does the UK Jack Trax 12" have the same mix on?
> 
> anyone know?
> 
> (placid?)
> 
> thanks!
> 
> alex
> _
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Re: (313) Re: OT tech probs

2003-10-09 Thread john harvey
P*&TIg8p&^p87pYfL7p897if*&p87ifL86trlufkfo*&^5O8lUflU^O6FLUFluRFO^rUyfLuR^rL
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and thats the answer to the meaning of life itself.

john




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To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 3:26 PM
Subject: (313) Re: OT tech probspiy;ip9;iu;8998

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> /snip/
>
> They always seem to come from Ian Cheshire. I am on digest mode reading on
> Eudora and/or Pine and I get the same either way.
>
>
> --
> unsigned short int to_yer_mama;
> http://hydrogen.doesntexist.org
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RE: (313) Re: OT tech probs

2003-10-09 Thread Robert Taylor
He's using a weird font that your PC must not support.
I can read them fine

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Kane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 2:27 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Re: OT tech probs


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/snip/

They always seem to come from Ian Cheshire. I am on digest mode reading on 
Eudora and/or Pine and I get the same either way.


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(313) dreamgirl

2003-10-09 Thread alex . bond
arrggghh,

can anyone help?

Pierres Phantasy Club - Dream Girl

Isn't this the one that goes for mad money?
is that on a US press - or does the UK Jack Trax 12" have the same mix on?

anyone know?

(placid?)

thanks!

alex
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Re: (313) Re: OT tech probs

2003-10-09 Thread alex . bond

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/snip

bwahahahah, and I thought I talked a load of s**t!
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(313) Re: OT tech probs

2003-10-09 Thread Matthew Kane

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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/snip/

They always seem to come from Ian Cheshire. I am on digest mode reading on 
Eudora and/or Pine and I get the same either way.



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RE: (313) Chi-town events?

2003-10-09 Thread David Powers
Yeah I was there last Saturday, the basement is dope, like a Michigan
basement party!

Expensive drinks but no cover!  Not bad...

-David

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 7:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Drew Daugherty; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Chi-town events?

i just checked out tini-martini tonight for the first time. wicked
basement place with loud sound and reasonable drinks. saw richard harvey
tonight. looking foward to tracks even more.

On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
> This'll cover anything worth noting from now until the 11th. ;)
>
> 10.8: DJ 3D @ Big Wig
> 10.9: D:Fuse, Jay Prasad, Chris Gin @ Big Wig
> 10.9: Ladytron DJ Mira Aroyo @ Smart Bar
> 10.10: Localized @ Vision
> 10.10: Timo Mass & Loco Dice @ HOB
> 10.10: Heather @ Smart Bar
> 10.11: LTJ Bukem, Makato & TC @ Progression Sessions @ Spundae
> 10.11: Colette @ Smart Bar
> 10.11: Behrouz & Jay Prasad @ Narcisse
> 10.11: Traxx @ Tini Martini
>
> On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, Drew Daugherty wrote:
>
> > Hi all.  Anyone know of events happening in the Chicago area on the
10th
> > or 11th?  Thanks in advance...
> >
> > -drew
> >
> >
>



RE: (313) Record Sales

2003-10-09 Thread Rob Theakston


I don't think those stats are usually made public, as distributors don't
like to release their figures and neither do labels...as far as I know.
Especially if you are talking about more of the non-commercial dance labels
(UR and the like..)

But if they have a barcode, it can sometimes be traced through soundscan.
Though I think you have to be a member to get those figures.

http://home.soundscan.com/



-Original Message-
From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 9:59 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Record Sales


Can someone tell me where I can find stats on dance record sale trends?


-Pete

---
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Goldman Sachs & Co.
Tel : 212.902.2446
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(313) Record Sales

2003-10-09 Thread Grammenos, Peter

Can someone tell me where I can find stats on dance record sale trends?


-Pete

---
Peter Grammenos
Goldman Sachs & Co.
Tel : 212.902.2446
--- 


Re: (313) Chi-town events?

2003-10-09 Thread yussel
uh...that's traxx

On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> i just checked out tini-martini tonight for the first time. wicked
> basement place with loud sound and reasonable drinks. saw richard harvey
> tonight. looking foward to tracks even more.
>
> On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >
> > This'll cover anything worth noting from now until the 11th. ;)
> >
> > 10.8: DJ 3D @ Big Wig
> > 10.9: D:Fuse, Jay Prasad, Chris Gin @ Big Wig
> > 10.9: Ladytron DJ Mira Aroyo @ Smart Bar
> > 10.10: Localized @ Vision
> > 10.10: Timo Mass & Loco Dice @ HOB
> > 10.10: Heather @ Smart Bar
> > 10.11: LTJ Bukem, Makato & TC @ Progression Sessions @ Spundae
> > 10.11: Colette @ Smart Bar
> > 10.11: Behrouz & Jay Prasad @ Narcisse
> > 10.11: Traxx @ Tini Martini
> >
> > On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, Drew Daugherty wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all.  Anyone know of events happening in the Chicago area on the 10th
> > > or 11th?  Thanks in advance...
> > >
> > > -drew
> > >
> > >
> >
>


Re: (313) Chi-town events?

2003-10-09 Thread yussel
i just checked out tini-martini tonight for the first time. wicked
basement place with loud sound and reasonable drinks. saw richard harvey
tonight. looking foward to tracks even more.

On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
> This'll cover anything worth noting from now until the 11th. ;)
>
> 10.8: DJ 3D @ Big Wig
> 10.9: D:Fuse, Jay Prasad, Chris Gin @ Big Wig
> 10.9: Ladytron DJ Mira Aroyo @ Smart Bar
> 10.10: Localized @ Vision
> 10.10: Timo Mass & Loco Dice @ HOB
> 10.10: Heather @ Smart Bar
> 10.11: LTJ Bukem, Makato & TC @ Progression Sessions @ Spundae
> 10.11: Colette @ Smart Bar
> 10.11: Behrouz & Jay Prasad @ Narcisse
> 10.11: Traxx @ Tini Martini
>
> On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, Drew Daugherty wrote:
>
> > Hi all.  Anyone know of events happening in the Chicago area on the 10th
> > or 11th?  Thanks in advance...
> >
> > -drew
> >
> >
>


RE: RE: (313) OT tech probs

2003-10-09 Thread iancheshire
you can always rely on Robert :) ha ha you crack me up mate!

-Original Message- 
From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thu 09/10/2003 12:13 
To: Robert Taylor 
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org 
Subject: Re: RE: (313) OT tech probs



LOL! Let's not tempt fate shall we? ;b

You wrote:
> Complete gibberish? SPW's back
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 10:49 AM
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: (313) OT tech probs
>
>
> have receieved a couple (but not all) email via that list that have 
come =
> through as complete gibberish (seemingly random numbers and letters), 
any=
> one have any ideas what the problem might be?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dan
>
>
> 
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Re: RE: (313) OT tech probs

2003-10-09 Thread Dan Bean
LOL! Let's not tempt fate shall we? ;b

You wrote:
> Complete gibberish? SPW's back
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 10:49 AM
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: (313) OT tech probs
> 
> 
> have receieved a couple (but not all) email via that list that have come =
> through as complete gibberish (seemingly random numbers and letters), any=
> one have any ideas what the problem might be?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> #=
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> 
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Re: (313) OT tech probs

2003-10-09 Thread john harvey
ha! ha! ha!
;}
- Original Message - 
From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Dan Bean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 12:49 PM
Subject: RE: (313) OT tech probs


Complete gibberish? SPW's back

-Original Message-
From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 10:49 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) OT tech probs


have receieved a couple (but not all) email via that list that have come
through as complete gibberish (seemingly random numbers and letters), anyone
have any ideas what the problem might be?

Thanks

Dan



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RE: (313) OT tech probs

2003-10-09 Thread Robert Taylor
Complete gibberish? SPW's back

-Original Message-
From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 10:49 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) OT tech probs


have receieved a couple (but not all) email via that list that have come 
through as complete gibberish (seemingly random numbers and letters), anyone 
have any ideas what the problem might be?

Thanks

Dan


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(313) OT tech probs

2003-10-09 Thread Dan Bean
have receieved a couple (but not all) email via that list that have come 
through as complete gibberish (seemingly random numbers and letters), anyone 
have any ideas what the problem might be?

Thanks

Dan




Re: (313) UK Radio One

2003-10-09 Thread john harvey
yeah!

lets get em

:]



FW: (313) UK Radio One

2003-10-09 Thread iancheshire
ok i sent it to myself so I hope it works now :)

-Original Message- 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thu 09/10/2003 11:04 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: 
Subject: RE: (313) UK Radio One


>Add to the fact that
>Jules said that DJ's charge too much and have damaged the 
scene...much coughing> He said he'd be happy to play for 25 people but I bet he
>wouldn't play for petrol and a pint or even £25...He just gives good
>television...
 
this is utter rubbish, what a w*nker for saying that. I know for a fact 
what he charges and he should shut his 
big fat poncy mouth b4 he lies about what he feels is destroying the 
scene, argh!! he makes me angry..
 
The radio 1 thing is good and bad, i mean lets face it Fergie has had 
Ben Sims, Chris Finke, Agoria on the  show. My mate saw Fergie and he's 
average, Jules is even worse... The fact these guys are promoting other techno 
to the masses is kind of a good thing as you will hear the odd Mills or Agoria 
tune the rest as you say would be the recycled stuff etc but the bad thing is 
that these guys are promoting it...bring back Dave Clarke or get someone new 
and fresh that understands the scene who will play a good rounded show, my fav 
would be Paula Temple of Totally Radio, why? cos she plays everything  that is 
techno..
 
-Original Message- 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thu 09/10/2003 10:44 
To: john harvey; 313 
Cc: 
Subject: RE: (313) UK Radio One



>Add to the fact that
>Jules said that DJ's charge too much and have damaged the 
scene...much coughing> He said he'd be happy to play for 25 people but 
I bet he
>wouldn't play for petrol and a pint or even £25...He just 
gives good
>television...
 
this is utter rubbish, what a w*nker for saying that. I know 
for a fact what he charges and he should shut his 
big fat poncy mouth b4 he lies about what he feels is 
destroying the scene, argh!! he makes me angry..
 
The radio 1 thing is good and bad, i mean lets face it he has 
had Ben Sims, Chris Finke, Agoria and others on the Fergie show. My mate saw 
Fergie and he's average, Jules is even worse... The fact these guys are 
promoting other techno to the masses is kind of a good thing as you will hear 
the odd Mills or Agoria tune the rest as you say would be the recycled stuff 
etc but the bad thing is that these guys are promoting it...bring back Dave 
Clarke or get someone new and fresh that understand the scene who will play a 
good rounded show, my fav would be Paula Temple of Totally Radio, why? cos she 
plays everything..hard and soft :)
 

-Original Message- 
From: john harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thu 09/10/2003 10:19 
To: 313 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: (313) UK Radio One



> There was a thread on there about Fergie/Judge Jules.
> It says that they're playing the likes of Umek and 
Adam Beyer (I think
> these were two of the names mentioned).

i think the "star dj" era is slowing down and these 
guys are just running
scared.
even if they did secretly like half decent music its an 
insult to expect us
to give them even the smallest degree of respect now.

john
:]






RE: (313) UK Radio One

2003-10-09 Thread iancheshire
>Add to the fact that
>Jules said that DJ's charge too much and have damaged the scene...much coughing> He said he'd be happy to play for 25 people but I bet he
>wouldn't play for petrol and a pint or even £25...He just gives good
>television...
 
this is utter rubbish, what a w*nker for saying that. I know for a fact what he 
charges and he should shut his 
big fat poncy mouth b4 he lies about what he feels is destroying the scene, 
argh!! he makes me angry..
 
The radio 1 thing is good and bad, i mean lets face it he has had Ben Sims, 
Chris Finke, Agoria and others on the Fergie show. My mate saw Fergie and he's 
average, Jules is even worse... The fact these guys are promoting other techno 
to the masses is kind of a good thing as you will hear the odd Mills or Agoria 
tune the rest as you say would be the recycled stuff etc but the bad thing is 
that these guys are promoting it...bring back Dave Clarke or get someone new 
and fresh that understand the scene who will play a good rounded show, my fav 
would be Paula Temple of Totally Radio, why? cos she plays everything..hard and 
soft :)
 

-Original Message- 
From: john harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thu 09/10/2003 10:19 
To: 313 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: (313) UK Radio One



> There was a thread on there about Fergie/Judge Jules.
> It says that they're playing the likes of Umek and Adam Beyer (I think
> these were two of the names mentioned).

i think the "star dj" era is slowing down and these guys are just 
running
scared.
even if they did secretly like half decent music its an insult to 
expect us
to give them even the smallest degree of respect now.

john
:]






Re: (313) UK Radio One

2003-10-09 Thread john harvey
> There was a thread on there about Fergie/Judge Jules.
> It says that they're playing the likes of Umek and Adam Beyer (I think
> these were two of the names mentioned).

i think the "star dj" era is slowing down and these guys are just running
scared.
even if they did secretly like half decent music its an insult to expect us
to give them even the smallest degree of respect now.

john
:]




Re: (313) juan atkins/big fun

2003-10-09 Thread john harvey

> >what is the point of remixing big fun?
> derrick may did a heck of a job rmxing that track. 

i haven't heard may's remix

john



Re: (313) UK Radio One

2003-10-09 Thread alex . bond
>To be honest Alex I wouldn't mind if the local DJ played Umek/Surgeon/Add
a
>name - I think what people are taking offence at is Jules and Fergie
saying
>they are breaking new ground and are the future of techno - it just a bit
to
>rich for some - but I'd take it with a pinch of salt...Add to the fact
that
>Jules said that DJ's charge too much and have damaged the scene...much coughing> He said he'd be happy to play for 25 people but I bet he
>wouldn't play for petrol and a pint or even £25...He just gives good
>television...

aye, right I see. so basically he's full of s**t then. hardly surprising.

no, I was genuinely interested to know (as I never listen to the radio at
the moment - only 5live anyway!)
for a start, I was wondering if people pushed good stuff to them, would
they play it?

(i.e. good 'hard' stuff)
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RE: (313) UK Radio One

2003-10-09 Thread Robert Taylor
Fergie has had the likes of Umek doing guest mixes on his show recently.
Judge Jules got into stuff like Andrew McLaughlin's Love Story and Adam Beyer's 
mix of Manipulated (cos of their cheesy elements I guess) and, like Fergie, has 
been playing a lot of the Beyer/Umek/Valentino/Tortured sh!te. Especially 
Fergie. Even Erick Morillo has been known to play Drumcode and Recycled Loops 
tunes in his sets.
Judge Jules' and Fergie's fans expect conneisseurs of good techno to be 
grateful to them for playing this rather unimaginative subgenre on national 
radio for some reason - hence the debate on Little Detroit.
It's the same old purist/populist debate, I suppose.

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Subject: (313) UK Radio One


Right, first off, this is not a wind-up (honestly)

I was having a little read of Martins excellent site 'little detroit.net'

There was a thread on there about Fergie/Judge Jules.

It says that they're playing the likes of Umek and Adam Beyer (I think
these were two of the names mentioned).

Is this true?

not that I'm in anyway a fan of any of that tackle, but really? these guys
on radio one?

man, last time I paid any attention, Judges Jules was a terrible 'handbag'
dj, and fergie was a sh*t hardcore/'tekno' dj.

does this represent a step in the right direction? do they play Mills gear?
or maybe some of the better harder stuff?

very interested to know...

thanks.

alex


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Re: (313) UK Radio One

2003-10-09 Thread Martin
To be honest Alex I wouldn't mind if the local DJ played Umek/Surgeon/Add a
name - I think what people are taking offence at is Jules and Fergie saying
they are breaking new ground and are the future of techno - it just a bit to
rich for some - but I'd take it with a pinch of salt...Add to the fact that
Jules said that DJ's charge too much and have damaged the scene... He said he'd be happy to play for 25 people but I bet he
wouldn't play for petrol and a pint or even £25...He just gives good
television...

martin


9/10/03 8:44 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED]@uk.pwc.com

> Right, first off, this is not a wind-up (honestly)
> 
> I was having a little read of Martins excellent site 'little detroit.net'
> 
> There was a thread on there about Fergie/Judge Jules.
> 
> It says that they're playing the likes of Umek and Adam Beyer (I think
> these were two of the names mentioned).
> 
> Is this true?
> 
> not that I'm in anyway a fan of any of that tackle, but really? these guys
> on radio one?
> 
> man, last time I paid any attention, Judges Jules was a terrible 'handbag'
> dj, and fergie was a sh*t hardcore/'tekno' dj.
> 
> does this represent a step in the right direction? do they play Mills gear?
> or maybe some of the better harder stuff?
> 
> very interested to know...
> 
> thanks.
> 
> alex
> 
> 
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Re: (313) UK Radio One

2003-10-09 Thread Dan Bean
Don't worry, they're still roobesh, or at least julie is, not heard Fergie, but 
I seem to recall seeing a guest mix by Umek on Fergie's show in the schedules

P.S. any joy on the EDHID vol 2?

You wrote:
> Right, first off, this is not a wind-up (honestly)
> 
> I was having a little read of Martins excellent site 'little detroit.net'
> 
> There was a thread on there about Fergie/Judge Jules.
> 
> It says that they're playing the likes of Umek and Adam Beyer (I think
> these were two of the names mentioned).
> 
> Is this true?
> 
> not that I'm in anyway a fan of any of that tackle, but really? these guys
> on radio one?
> 
> man, last time I paid any attention, Judges Jules was a terrible 'handbag'
> dj, and fergie was a sh*t hardcore/'tekno' dj.
> 
> does this represent a step in the right direction? do they play Mills gear?
> or maybe some of the better harder stuff?
> 
> very interested to know...
> 
> thanks.
> 
> alex
> 
> 
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(313) UK Radio One

2003-10-09 Thread alex . bond
Right, first off, this is not a wind-up (honestly)

I was having a little read of Martins excellent site 'little detroit.net'

There was a thread on there about Fergie/Judge Jules.

It says that they're playing the likes of Umek and Adam Beyer (I think
these were two of the names mentioned).

Is this true?

not that I'm in anyway a fan of any of that tackle, but really? these guys
on radio one?

man, last time I paid any attention, Judges Jules was a terrible 'handbag'
dj, and fergie was a sh*t hardcore/'tekno' dj.

does this represent a step in the right direction? do they play Mills gear?
or maybe some of the better harder stuff?

very interested to know...

thanks.

alex


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Re: (313) juan atkins/big fun

2003-10-09 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
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>what is the point of remixing big fun?

derrick may did a heck of a job rmxing that track. 

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   


(313) sun ra

2003-10-09 Thread Philip

Anyone heard the sun ra tribute on kindred spirits ? seems like there
are lots of tracks from francisco mora / outerzone. His CD on planet e
didn't do much for me so i don't really want more of the same. Ta.

p