RE: (313) white girls
No one gets anywhere being bitter, and poking fun at 'fair game(see below)' for whatever reason is just tired and reactionary. I love white girls...especially my mum. -Original Message- From: Kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 9 June 2004 4:48 a.m. To: 313 list Subject: RE: (313) white girls It's a meme they're trying to establish. It means whatever you want it to mean. I've always gotten the impression that when it came to ethnic and racial differences, it's bad cricket to make fun of people of color, or 'white' people who have been treated badly, like the Italians and Irish. But affluent white people from America and Europe are fair game. I'm not saying that I think anyone should be ridiculed based on a stereotype, just that making fun of the traditional oppressor groups doesn't sting as much. I don't think a booth at Movement selling i'm sick and tired of black girls would have been very well received by anyone, black or white. So perhaps I'm sick and tired of white girls is a critique on stereotypes and prejudice, presented with some humor. If a white girl wears it, is she expressing self loathing? If a black or hispanic or asian girl wears it, is it jealosy? If a black man wears it, is he saying he's down with sisters exclusively? If a white man wears it does it mean he's made a sexual fetish of skin color? On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Robert Taylor wrote: Anyone troubled by this? What do they mean by sick and tired of white girls?
Re: (313) records
Pepe Bradock - Un Pepe En Or Vol. 2 Women Beat Their Men (k.b. records) -drew whats up with these? same version of women beat their men as the one I know (cevin fisher?) new pepe? Im out of it (all), but the man writes some sick tracks. -joe
Re: (313) 'Moodyman': 'The Silence Is Broken'
I think getting lawyers involved would be WEAK. he's got to expect this kind of thing when he's unwilling to release in numbers that satisfy demand. its like holding yum candy just out of reach of kid with a sweet tooth. people have the technology and the willingness to get the music out no matter what KDJ wants, so he might as well re-release and get some money for his tracks while he can. of course, with this in mind, I'm not going to care very much when he starts complaining about being bootlegged again, he's not learning anything from these situations, evidently mr contentious-point-of-view-today, -Joe - Original Message - From: Ken Odeluga [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 4:51 AM Subject: RE: (313) 'Moodyman': 'The Silence Is Broken' Aquarhythms - Body Jazz Body Fusion (Carl Craig's Straight mix), Yennek - Serena X (Innerzone mix), La Funk Mob - Ravers Suck Our Sound (Carl Craig remix), Brian Transeau - Relativity (Carl Craig's Urban Affair dub), Tori Amos - God (The Rainforest Resort mix), Iccognito - Out Of The Storm (C's Planet E Special mix) On CCR Records ... Legit? I don't know, but I would suspect that this is another boot, just going by the current trend of release skeds and the type of labels chosen (if not the artists' own) on which to release. I've never heard of CCR or Neon (which released the 'Moodyman' boot). Not wanting to reignite the rather acrimonious debate about how much material (quantity and frequency) producers should release, but these bootlegs do implicate a perceived supply-demand mismatch, and the ultimate responsibility for that will tend to lie with the artists. Doesn't justify being ripped off but releasing more frequently/more 'volumes' (in electronic music that word's a bit of a misnomer but you know what I mean) will tend to reduce the risk of bootlegs, that's just a fact. k
Re: (313) INFLUENCE.
dont know where his home town is, but assuming its detroit, I remember some rumor of him saying he would not play in detroit for a while because about 10 people showed at the last show he'd played at in detroit (I was there, it was great music but he was obviously annoyed about the promotion and turnout, and rightfully so. ) I think this was last year, and I've not seen him show up on any flyers, but Im by no means in the loop. (any for that matter) -Joe - Original Message - From: FC2 Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 12:40 AM Subject: RE: (313) INFLUENCE. A ton of those DJ's can play the tracks out too...you know they don't just cut it up and that is what I like. DJ T-1000 is another, and it is unfortunate that he doesn't get booked in his home town more... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 1:31 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) INFLUENCE. Robert Taylor wrote: Leave it to the hiphop DJs - I want to hear the record! I realize that it's just not your style - but why let the hip-hop DJs have all the fun? I'd love to see more DJs be able to do what Claude, Shake, Mills, and similar styled artists do If a techno DJ shouldn't scratch, cut, use their nose, elbow, etc. then what about people like DJ Craze? Are they not supposed to play house, drum bass, and techno mixed in with their hip-hop? some of them drum looped techno tracks only have one good part - I don't want to hear the entire thing played out and mixed seamlessly into the next drum loop. That bores me to tears. It takes all kinds of DJs to make a party: The David Mancuso's who don't want to overlap a single tune; those who blend, mix, and select well but would sooner scratch their @ss then try and scratch a record; and those that barely let a second go by without some kind of manipulation of the record/mixer/turntable. As long as they do it with conviction then I'm all for it. MEK
Re: (313) second time
since when does simply having a different preference in music or aspects of a performance make you a hater? what happened to personal opinion? again, music is art, and the appreciation of art is bound to individual subjectivity. telling someone their opinion of a piece of music or performance is wrong is like telling someone that this painting IS better than that painting.. I'm working on what I hope to be the worst song of all time. its suck will unite us all. :)) -Joe - Original Message - From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 6:31 AM Subject: RE: (313) second time I'm no 'hater' whatever that is, just don't get that style when all you can hear is cutting and scratching and nothing else - I don't buy records as much as I used to so I often just want to hear the record, so I guess I am a potential customer. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 12:57 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) second time I don't mind it if it doesn't get in the way of the music - but people like Claude Young nooo! Leave the records alone! Leave it to the hiphop DJs - I want to hear the record! I've read this line a few times. Don't know if you buy records, but you sound like a either a potential customer, or a true hater. I would like to think that you are a potential customer. So please buy. Good records tend get hard to find after a while. But to borrow a hip hop line, don't hate, congratulate. Some dj's are more skilled than others. And I really hate boring dj's. There are to many in the world clogging up the arteries like bad cholesterol. One last thing, In Detroit, we learned to play by having to have to play many things, for many types of people. And some of us liked many types of things. Variety is the spice of life. If you don't like the style, you can always leave, or not go at all. Everybody is an expert now. I remember when this was hated. So buy these records, and play them at home. Don't be mad at the successful ones. Shake Shakir. Frictional Recordings. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) 'Moodyman': 'The Silence Is Broken'
Your kidding right? Your statement doesn't justify someone stealing music and making money off of it. Obviously KDJ doesn't want to press alot of records at a time, and he does re-release records. Try either buying them when they are released, find and buy them used, OR try buying them when they are re-released. Simple as that. ~E he's got to expect this kind of thing when he's unwilling to release in numbers that satisfy demand. its like holding yum candy just out of reach of kid with a sweet tooth. people have the technology and the willingness to get the music out no matter what KDJ wants, so he might as well re-release and get some money for his tracks while he can.
Re: (313) 'Moodyman': 'The Silence Is Broken'
it doesn't justify it, but you seriously shouldnt be too suprised when it happens. Im just ssaying that despite his motivations for doing limited copy releases, he might be better off getting the money for his tracks unstead of leaving it to the bootleggers. I MAKE music, Erin, of course I dont want people stealing it. sorry if I wasn't clear initially. -Joe - Original Message - From: Erin Bate [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 12:18 AM Subject: Re: (313) 'Moodyman': 'The Silence Is Broken' Your kidding right? Your statement doesn't justify someone stealing music and making money off of it. Obviously KDJ doesn't want to press alot of records at a time, and he does re-release records. Try either buying them when they are released, find and buy them used, OR try buying them when they are re-released. Simple as that. ~E he's got to expect this kind of thing when he's unwilling to release in numbers that satisfy demand. its like holding yum candy just out of reach of kid with a sweet tooth. people have the technology and the willingness to get the music out no matter what KDJ wants, so he might as well re-release and get some money for his tracks while he can.
Re: (313) 'Moodyman': 'The Silence Is Broken'
of course, with this in mind, I'm not going to care very much when he starts complaining about being bootlegged again, he's not learning anything from these situations, evidently Just a little side note... KDJ and other artists are not obligated to distribute ANY of there music if they so choose. You see more and more artists sharing unreleased music amongst each other and they are never released, and usually these records end up being the sickest tracks we hear. it doesn't justify it, but you seriously shouldnt be too suprised when it happens. Im just ssaying that despite his motivations for doing limited copy releases, he might be better off getting the money for his tracks unstead of leaving it to the bootleggers. Actually I am, because people should have more respect for the artists and their music, and less for the money involved. I MAKE music, Erin, of course I dont want people stealing it. By the way, Joe I think that is great you make music. If you make a track and can only press up 1000 copies or so, I sure hope you don't come crying about someone in UK bootleggin' you.
Re: (313) second time
I already beat you to the punch 10 years ago. Sorry, bud. :D /0 writes: I'm working on what I hope to be the worst song of all time. its suck will unite us all. :)) -Joe
Re: (313) 'Moodyman': 'The Silence Is Broken'
well he can certainly release 5 copies of a track if he wants... he wouldnt be the first musician to lose money to idealism. I hope he doesn't regret it down the road. thanks for your perspective Erin, -Joe - Original Message - From: Erin Bate [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 12:45 AM Subject: Re: (313) 'Moodyman': 'The Silence Is Broken' of course, with this in mind, I'm not going to care very much when he starts complaining about being bootlegged again, he's not learning anything from these situations, evidently Just a little side note... KDJ and other artists are not obligated to distribute ANY of there music if they so choose. You see more and more artists sharing unreleased music amongst each other and they are never released, and usually these records end up being the sickest tracks we hear. it doesn't justify it, but you seriously shouldnt be too suprised when it happens. Im just ssaying that despite his motivations for doing limited copy releases, he might be better off getting the money for his tracks unstead of leaving it to the bootleggers. Actually I am, because people should have more respect for the artists and their music, and less for the money involved. I MAKE music, Erin, of course I dont want people stealing it. By the way, Joe I think that is great you make music. If you make a track and can only press up 1000 copies or so, I sure hope you don't come crying about someone in UK bootleggin' you.
Re: (313) 'Moodyman': 'The Silence Is Broken'
it doesn't justify it, but you seriously shouldnt be too suprised when it happens. Im just ssaying that despite his motivations for doing limited copy releases, he might be better off getting the money for his tracks unstead of leaving it to the bootleggers. this whole blame-the-artist thing makes me sick. blame the bootlegger. dont buy this crap, dont make excuses for the bootleggers, maybe they'll stop bootlegging releases that havent even been out of print for 5 years! copyrights exist for a reason, of course people should be surprised when some punk comes along and steals their chit! especially when the market is so small to begin with, it is a really brazen act of theft! I MAKE music, Erin, of course I dont want people stealing it. you've previously said that you think all music should be free and artists should not be paid iirc? _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: (313) 'Moodyman': 'The Silence Is Broken'
No blame was laid on anyone; at no point did he say that it's KDJ's fault for this bootleg's existance, and that it's ok to sell illegal copies of music. What he said was that supply and demand exists. When demand exceeds supply, things happen. He was just saying you'd think KDJ would stop being surprised at these bootlegs. He further asserted that perhaps KDJ should be cashing on the demand for his music rather than bootleggers. So far, it's pretty sound thinking, IMO! J. T. writes: this whole blame-the-artist thing makes me sick. blame the bootlegger.
(313) Playlist WNUR Chicago - 4 June 2004: post-Movement 04 Hangover
Clinically Inclined 4 June 2004 Fridays 9:30pm -12:00am, 89.3 FM WNUR Chicago http://SonicSunset.com -- download show as .MP3 With Dave away at Mutek this week, Matt pilots the mothership solo. Back from the Movement '04 Festival in Detroit, with some classic and new joints from the vinyl bins of Wayne County. Here's one long mix, split into 2 files for download: Part 1 starts in a slow-n-low basement party groove and takes time to explore classic synth-funk and boogie styles (check: I'm Out To Catch..) into brilliant new deeps from Metro Area, new ultra-electronic disco from Carlos Hernandez on a split 12 w/ Danny Wang, rubbery funk on an excellent Random Factor 12, and warm analog italo-techno from Francisco on Pigna. Part 2 goes on a more deliberate blue-out Detroit sound excursion, from raw 313-style loft house, to deep new Techno soul from UR, and winding down to a Rotating Assembly / Moodymann drive up Gratiot on a steamy June night. New slabs from DJ Minx, Perception, and Ferris Park too. Part 1 Dramatics - Sun Down Is Coming (Hold Back The Night) Joy Ride (ABC) 1976 The Bar-Kays - Holy Ghost - Money Talks (Stax) 1978 Dayton - The Sound of Music - Feel The Music (Capitol) 1983 Slave - Wait For Me - Showtime (Cotillion) 1981 Leon Haywood - I'm Out To Catch [Club Version] (Casablanca) 1983 Warp 9 - Light Years Away [Dub Version] (Prisim) 1983 T.C. Curtis - You Should Have Known Better (Hot Melt) 1985 Metro Area - Proton Candy - 5 (Environ) IRT - Watch The Closing Doors [Dub Version] (RCA) 1983 Random Factor - After The Tone - Convergence Sampler (2020 Vision) Carlos Hernandez - Roller Giggles (Basenotic) untitled A1 - Rong music black label (RPR 00) Francisco - Salvatoin - Frenga EP (Pigna) Floorplan - Funky Souls [Club 246 mix] (Drama) Iz Diz - What We Need [Satisfaction mix] - What We Need EP (Silver) Part 2 Precession - Sandcastle [Mike Huckaby remix] (Deep Transportation) Romanthony - Gospel Vamp - In The Mix (Azuli) Perception - Abandoned Building in Mono (Underground Resistance) UR - Return of the Dragons [Los Hermanos mix] (Underground Resistance) Chez Damier - I Never Knew Love [Made In Detroit Mix] (KMS) Seven Grand Housing Authority - Spreading Love [Instrumental Vibe] (Intangible) A1 - Ferris Park 008 test Reggie Dokes - Black Thoughts - The First Manifestatoin - (Psychostasia) DJ Minx - A Walk In The Park [Minx's On The Slide Mix] (M_nus) James Duncan - A1 - Times Like These (Le Systeme) The Rotating Assembly - Orchestra Hall - Natural Aspirations (Sound Signature) Moodymann - Mahogani 9000 - Black Mahogani (Peacefrog) Timeline/UR - The Moment - Return of the Dragons (Underground Resistance) download shows from http://SonicSunset.com Note: We have moved our audio files to a FASTER webserver so you should experience quicker downloads :) peace.. and great to see old friends and meet new ones at Movement!! New photo slices on the site reflects a handful of many great experiences at afterparties that weekend. -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
Re: (313) 'Moodyman': 'The Silence Is Broken'
I think that music is a very pure form of human emotional expression and for me, that product (in this case, the music I make) is cheapened when I attach a price tag to it in any way. performance is a whole different story. when i first was confronted with this choice (release or not), I was very excited and then realized I was excited because of the ego-feed of having a record out. I wouldnt have made much and the little fame means nothign to me. a life as a musician would not fulfill my long term aspirations, so I decided taht I would be a part time audio mangler, and give it away for free as long as anyone wanted to listen. the only reason I continue to consider release of any of my tracks is because it helps get more live shows, which is what I really enjoy. I dont think bootlegging is ok, because thats attacking some peoples livelihood (the affected musicians) but I also think it should indicate to the artist that there is a market gap to be filled. you can either fill it with undoubtadly higher quality re-releases and make money, or you can lose the money, send expensive lawyers after the bootleggers, and end up broke but with a whole load of artistic integrity. no one has to agree with this, as I know its not a very common point of view, but since you asked ... :))) -Joe - Original Message - From: J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 12:50 AM Subject: Re: (313) 'Moodyman': 'The Silence Is Broken' it doesn't justify it, but you seriously shouldnt be too suprised when it happens. Im just ssaying that despite his motivations for doing limited copy releases, he might be better off getting the money for his tracks unstead of leaving it to the bootleggers. this whole blame-the-artist thing makes me sick. blame the bootlegger. dont buy this crap, dont make excuses for the bootleggers, maybe they'll stop bootlegging releases that havent even been out of print for 5 years! copyrights exist for a reason, of course people should be surprised when some punk comes along and steals their chit! especially when the market is so small to begin with, it is a really brazen act of theft! I MAKE music, Erin, of course I dont want people stealing it. you've previously said that you think all music should be free and artists should not be paid iirc? _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: (313) records, Oliverwho Factory
Hey there! Here's a link to their audio page which lists all of the available vinyl. They did release a CD which might explain the confusion, but not available now. M http://www.theoliverwhofactory.com/Audio.html http://www.discogs.com/artist/Oliverwho_Factory-_The From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) records Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 16:23:39 -0400 -- Original Message -- From: Drew Daugherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oliverwho Factory - Rude Awakening Level 2 where did you find this? i just picked up the first 2 oliverwho records in detroit last weekend, good stuff for sure. i think that madd chaise 3 came out recentlyish as well, havent heard that one either. who are these people? i need those 2 12s. tom andythepooh.com _ Check out the coupons and bargains on MSN Offers! http://youroffers.msn.com
Re: (313) Non Stop DJs (was RE: (313) two ghetto tech id's)
cough Because cough we don't review our own reviews stuff splutter It was a joke cough 8/6/04 6:44 PM Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] cough why would you need another copy for review if you already have it? splutter :) Jason On 8 Jun 2004, at 12:44, Martin Dust wrote: Read the message again fella, *we have been hammering it* - hard to do that if you don't have it cough Martin
RE: (313) please god, end the White Girls thread
Jeeez - I was just puzzled by it and asked about it - America must be a f***ed up place racially if t-shirts like that are sported without anyone asking questions -Original Message- From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 5:44 PM To: 313 Subject: (313) please god, end the White Girls thread if you think understand it, great. if you don't understand it great... if you don't care, great. But please stop commenting on it here and subjecting the rest of us to the 1-liners and quasi-philosophy... ugh love, Matt # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
(313) Unabombers
The Unabombers are playing in Melbourne on Friday night. Can anyone tell me anything about them? The only thing I know about them is that they're from Manchester, and they charted the Moxie edit of Talking Heads at the top of their 5. Should I go see them? Cheers Chris
RE: (313) 'Moodyman': 'The Silence Is Broken'
Hey Erin, All I can say is, read my complete comment before you start making unfounded accusations. I said myself that the dearth of supply does not justify anyone bootlegging. I'd have to be pretty stupid to imply that bootleggers are justified and I'm certainbly not that stupid or unreasonable. I don't appreciate your ill thought-out petulance when I have posted something which I feel was sensible, non-accusatory and balanced. As I say, read my post. I'm pretty sure it would not have offended any artists - even if they had not agreed with it. Yet I still have to put up with self-righteous wolly-headedness from people like yourself. On a good day I'd dismiss you with the lack of attention which I think you merit, but today you can have some sharp words. Now split. Ken Odeluga Your kidding right? Your statement doesn't justify someone stealing music and making money off of it. Obviously KDJ doesn't want to press alot of records at a time, and he does re-release records. Try either buying them when they are released, find and buy them used, OR try buying them when they are re-released. Simple as that. ~E he's got to expect this kind of thing when he's unwilling to release in numbers that satisfy demand. its like holding yum candy just out of reach of kid with a sweet tooth. people have the technology and the willingness to get the music out no matter what KDJ wants, so he might as well re-release and get some money for his tracks while he can.
(313) new bits
Arrrgh *stretches*, god I feel 'cosmic' today. anyone want to borrow any cough medicine? seems there's a nasty bout about. I love it when it kicks off here, even Ken's got the camel today. I'm on the offensive too, I'm in fcuking Liverpool. Jesus, I'd been here 5 minutes, someone had asked to 'buy' my bike (so he got the hump when I told him to do one) and I saw some gippo trying to jimmy a phone box open (in broad daylight in the middle of town) 5 minutes, I kid you not. Welcome to the capital of culture. Pikey gippo m'feckers. anyway, anyone got any new records? anything good? God I'm loving that Aaron Carl thing I got. My mate Johnny don't like it, but I think it sounds like Shake doing a Prince record on Jeff MIll's Luxury label (or something). Ace rave tackle. Can't wait to bust it out LOUD. cough cough Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) new bits
New... Vince Watson - Parallels Bit faster than his usual stuff http://www.vincewatson.co.uk/ Lands//. - Antitainment Dark electronics for the soul... All the other new stuff is here Alex http://www.littledetroit.net/Reviews/menu.php?sm=2004-06 Martin 9/6/04 9:46 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED]@uk.pwc.com Arrrgh *stretches*, god I feel 'cosmic' today. anyone want to borrow any cough medicine? seems there's a nasty bout about. I love it when it kicks off here, even Ken's got the camel today. I'm on the offensive too, I'm in fcuking Liverpool. Jesus, I'd been here 5 minutes, someone had asked to 'buy' my bike (so he got the hump when I told him to do one) and I saw some gippo trying to jimmy a phone box open (in broad daylight in the middle of town) 5 minutes, I kid you not. Welcome to the capital of culture. Pikey gippo m'feckers. anyway, anyone got any new records? anything good? God I'm loving that Aaron Carl thing I got. My mate Johnny don't like it, but I think it sounds like Shake doing a Prince record on Jeff MIll's Luxury label (or something). Ace rave tackle. Can't wait to bust it out LOUD. cough cough Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) new bits
That mix of vince 03 is the nuts ...I reccomend it , its funky as hell..any tracklist? or am I being thick? -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 09/06/2004 11:56 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: Re: (313) new bits New... Vince Watson - Parallels Bit faster than his usual stuff http://www.vincewatson.co.uk/ Lands//. - Antitainment Dark electronics for the soul... All the other new stuff is here Alex http://www.littledetroit.net/Reviews/menu.php?sm=2004-06 Martin 9/6/04 9:46 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED]@uk.pwc.com Arrrgh *stretches*, god I feel 'cosmic' today. anyone want to borrow any cough medicine? seems there's a nasty bout about. I love it when it kicks off here, even Ken's got the camel today. I'm on the offensive too, I'm in fcuking Liverpool. Jesus, I'd been here 5 minutes, someone had asked to 'buy' my bike (so he got the hump when I told him to do one) and I saw some gippo trying to jimmy a phone box open (in broad daylight in the middle of town) 5 minutes, I kid you not. Welcome to the capital of culture. Pikey gippo m'feckers. anyway, anyone got any new records? anything good? God I'm loving that Aaron Carl thing I got. My mate Johnny don't like it, but I think it sounds like Shake doing a Prince record on Jeff MIll's Luxury label (or something). Ace rave tackle. Can't wait to bust it out LOUD. cough cough Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) new bits
9/6/04 10:12 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED]@blueyonder.co.uk That mix of vince 03 is the nuts ...I reccomend it , its funky as hell..any tracklist? or am I being thick? Thick I think ;) http://www.littledetroit.net/Downloads/VinceWatson-PeaktimeDJMix.php -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 09/06/2004 11:56 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: Re: (313) new bits New... Vince Watson - Parallels Bit faster than his usual stuff http://www.vincewatson.co.uk/ Lands//. - Antitainment Dark electronics for the soul... All the other new stuff is here Alex http://www.littledetroit.net/Reviews/menu.php?sm=2004-06 Martin 9/6/04 9:46 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED]@uk.pwc.com Arrrgh *stretches*, god I feel 'cosmic' today. anyone want to borrow any cough medicine? seems there's a nasty bout about. I love it when it kicks off here, even Ken's got the camel today. I'm on the offensive too, I'm in fcuking Liverpool. Jesus, I'd been here 5 minutes, someone had asked to 'buy' my bike (so he got the hump when I told him to do one) and I saw some gippo trying to jimmy a phone box open (in broad daylight in the middle of town) 5 minutes, I kid you not. Welcome to the capital of culture. Pikey gippo m'feckers. anyway, anyone got any new records? anything good? God I'm loving that Aaron Carl thing I got. My mate Johnny don't like it, but I think it sounds like Shake doing a Prince record on Jeff MIll's Luxury label (or something). Ace rave tackle. Can't wait to bust it out LOUD. cough cough Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) records
Pepe Bradock - Un Pepe En Or Vol. 2 new pepe? No, this is an old one. However there are some excellent new Pepe Bradock remixes of Candi Staton out this week on Honest Jon's. It's record of the week at Piccadilly: http://www.piccadillyrecords.co.uk/
(313) DJ Bone audio online
hi, for those who would like to hear dj bone's set from last saturday @ fluid http://www.3voor12.vpro.nl/rebelbass scroll down and hit the audio icon ;) regards aida
RE: (313) new bits
ha ha blush -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 09/06/2004 12:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: Re: (313) new bits 9/6/04 10:12 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED]@blueyonder.co.uk That mix of vince 03 is the nuts ...I reccomend it , its funky as hell..any tracklist? or am I being thick? Thick I think ;) http://www.littledetroit.net/Downloads/VinceWatson-PeaktimeDJMix.php -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 09/06/2004 11:56 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: Re: (313) new bits New... Vince Watson - Parallels Bit faster than his usual stuff http://www.vincewatson.co.uk/ Lands//. - Antitainment Dark electronics for the soul... All the other new stuff is here Alex http://www.littledetroit.net/Reviews/menu.php?sm=2004-06 Martin 9/6/04 9:46 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED]@uk.pwc.com Arrrgh *stretches*, god I feel 'cosmic' today. anyone want to borrow any cough medicine? seems there's a nasty bout about. I love it when it kicks off here, even Ken's got the camel today. I'm on the offensive too, I'm in fcuking Liverpool. Jesus, I'd been here 5 minutes, someone had asked to 'buy' my bike (so he got the hump when I told him to do one) and I saw some gippo trying to jimmy a phone box open (in broad daylight in the middle of town) 5 minutes, I kid you not. Welcome to the capital of culture. Pikey gippo m'feckers. anyway, anyone got any new records? anything good? God I'm loving that Aaron Carl thing I got. My mate Johnny don't like it, but I think it sounds like Shake doing a Prince record on Jeff MIll's Luxury label (or something). Ace rave tackle. Can't wait to bust it out LOUD. cough cough Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) Vince
He's got some great stuff coming on Transmat and Emoticon this year as well, well worth a listen - all due September time I believe... Martin 9/6/04 10:18 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED]@blueyonder.co.uk ha ha blush -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 09/06/2004 12:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: Re: (313) new bits 9/6/04 10:12 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED]@blueyonder.co.uk That mix of vince 03 is the nuts ...I reccomend it , its funky as hell..any tracklist? or am I being thick? Thick I think ;) http://www.littledetroit.net/Downloads/VinceWatson-PeaktimeDJMix.php -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 09/06/2004 11:56 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: Re: (313) new bits New... Vince Watson - Parallels Bit faster than his usual stuff http://www.vincewatson.co.uk/ Lands//. - Antitainment Dark electronics for the soul... All the other new stuff is here Alex http://www.littledetroit.net/Reviews/menu.php?sm=2004-06 Martin 9/6/04 9:46 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED]@uk.pwc.com Arrrgh *stretches*, god I feel 'cosmic' today. anyone want to borrow any cough medicine? seems there's a nasty bout about. I love it when it kicks off here, even Ken's got the camel today. I'm on the offensive too, I'm in fcuking Liverpool. Jesus, I'd been here 5 minutes, someone had asked to 'buy' my bike (so he got the hump when I told him to do one) and I saw some gippo trying to jimmy a phone box open (in broad daylight in the middle of town) 5 minutes, I kid you not. Welcome to the capital of culture. Pikey gippo m'feckers. anyway, anyone got any new records? anything good? God I'm loving that Aaron Carl thing I got. My mate Johnny don't like it, but I think it sounds like Shake doing a Prince record on Jeff MIll's Luxury label (or something). Ace rave tackle. Can't wait to bust it out LOUD. cough cough Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) 'Moodyman': 'The Silence Is Broken'
Haven't we discussed the whole issue of bootlegging just a couple of months ago with the other KDJ bootleg? Can't we stop this, it is like a digital deja-vu, same arguments again, people who care about an artist right fot intulectual and artistic property and people who don't care about it. Same discussion, same people... read the archives i would say :) KJ On Wednesday, June 09, 2004, at 07:24AM, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont think bootlegging is ok, because thats attacking some peoples livelihood (the affected musicians) but I also think it should indicate to the artist that there is a market gap to be filled. you can either fill it with undoubtadly higher quality re-releases and make money, or you can lose the money, send expensive lawyers after the bootleggers, and end up broke but with a whole load of artistic integrity. no one has to agree with this, as I know its not a very common point of view, but since you asked ... :)))
Re: (313) Vince
He's got some great stuff coming on Transmat and Emoticon this year as well... It'll actually be Headspace, not Emoticon... HS 016 will be the four-track 'Lost Episodes' 12, HS 017 is the 'Sublimina' CD/2xLP. Samples will be online at http://emoticon-headspace.net very soon. We also did a little interview with him (plus the world premiere of his live set) on the Spatial radio show back in March if anyone's interested: http://www.spatialsounds.com/audio/radio/040305a.m3u to stream http://www.spatialsounds.com/audio/radio/040305a.mp3 to download Cheers, Tom
(313) Malik Alston's Band
Exclusive Detroit Import / We picked this up while visiting the Detroit Electronic Music festival..Painted Pictures is a band put together by Malik Alston?This album is a collection of nice new jazz tracks and more house workouts?The band is tight the feeling is right! This cd comes with mixes by peepz like Alton Miller, John Arnold, Doc Link Malik Alston. Check it! Hello. The above text is from rushhours site. Has anyone heard it? Might I like it? also, someone posted about the 3 chairs LP the other day - any more info on that? release date, tracklist etc? thanks in advance. Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) new bits
I'm on the offensive too, I'm in fcuking Liverpool. Jesus, I'd been here 5 minutes, someone had asked to 'buy' my bike (so he got the hump when I told him to do one) and I saw some gippo trying to jimmy a phone box open (in broad daylight in the middle of town) 5 minutes, I kid you not. Welcome to the capital of culture. Pikey gippo m'feckers. oi! half of my family are from Liverpool :) ironically i was just saying to my mate over coffee that i've always disliked the place tho so there you go anyway, anyone got any new records? anything good? yeah my essential new record is the Shake mix of Osborne 'Bout Ready to Jak'now there's some real rave tackle for ya alex. oh yeah and the alexander technique rework/re-edit of ESG's 'Moody'...sublime (anyone know more about this?and thanks to chris A for pointing out it was the last one in the shop!) and that picture disc on deep transportation of the best two tracks off that Ferox TechnoSoul compilationfinally a good 12 pressing of them... and one i haven't got yet that i passed up when it came out is that DK edit of SoulCentral's cover of String of Life on whistlebumpbeing caned by most house DJs at Movement. aaah...feels good to talk music and not chickens wearing t-shirts with dumb slogans on :) robin...
Re: (313) new bits
oi! half of my family are from Liverpool yeah, that figures..; ) yeah my essential new record is the Shake mix of Osborne 'Bout Ready to Jak'now there's some real rave tackle for ya alex. Now I've been to the tresor club, I'm all about the rave tackle. Jesus, that vault there! w. couldn't see my hand infront of my face. Bicknell main room at Lost vibe going on. Dark dark business. I enjoyed though, been a while since I went to a rave. and one i haven't got yet that i passed up when it came out is that DK edit of SoulCentral's cover of String of Life on whistlebumpbeing caned by most house DJs at Movement. You can have mine (if I've not already sold it). btw, what's all this I read on Little Detroit about some 'hard house' mixes of strings? that for real? thanks for the tips btw Robin, nice one. Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) new bits
dark business. I enjoyed though, been a while since I went to a rave. and one i haven't got yet that i passed up when it came out is that DK edit of SoulCentral's cover of String of Life on whistlebumpbeing caned by most house DJs at Movement. You can have mine (if I've not already sold it). I'll give to £5.00 to take mine ;) btw, what's all this I read on Little Detroit about some 'hard house' mixes of strings? that for real? That's right - horrible stuff Martin
RE: (313) new bits
Now I've been to the tresor club, I'm all about the rave tackle. Jesus, that vault there! w. couldn't see my hand infront of my face. Bicknell main room at Lost vibe going on. Dark dark business. I enjoyed though, been a while since I went to a rave. I have to say Alex this was my best gig ever becuase it was an ultimate dream come true and I loved the feel of the dark vault and its sweaty walls, its such a contrast to upstairs and if Tresor ever goes it will be a tragedy thats for sure. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 09/06/2004 13:44 To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: Re: (313) new bits oi! half of my family are from Liverpool yeah, that figures..; ) yeah my essential new record is the Shake mix of Osborne 'Bout Ready to Jak'now there's some real rave tackle for ya alex. Now I've been to the tresor club, I'm all about the rave tackle. Jesus, that vault there! w. couldn't see my hand infront of my face. Bicknell main room at Lost vibe going on. Dark dark business. I enjoyed though, been a while since I went to a rave. and one i haven't got yet that i passed up when it came out is that DK edit of SoulCentral's cover of String of Life on whistlebumpbeing caned by most house DJs at Movement. You can have mine (if I've not already sold it). btw, what's all this I read on Little Detroit about some 'hard house' mixes of strings? that for real? thanks for the tips btw Robin, nice one. Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) new bits / Tresor
I have to say Alex this was my best gig ever becuase it was an ultimate dream come true and I loved the feel of the dark vault and its sweaty walls, its such a contrast to upstairs and if Tresor ever goes it will be a tragedy thats for sure. I'll bet Ian! yeah, that's some dark ass action they got going on down there. It's like some sort of torture vault or something. I have to say I liked upstairs though as well. Infact, I was in the pub last night and all my mates were pretty surprised that I thought it was so good... maybe it was because I was away and it all seemed different. I dunno, by the time I'd got to Tresor I'd been on a 24 hour non stop drinking bender. So my opinions are probs skewed. anyway I wrote a massive long post, I put a bit about tresor in so I cp'd so you can see my opinions on it. 5am came and the club shut. The rest of our boys had headed to bed, but I wasn't really up for going home, so Mike and I thought we'd head over to Tresor to see if it was still open. Arrived there 5.30 ish, walked in and it was JUMPING!! Pretty gob-smacked really, wasn't expecting much at all, but it was hot. Grabbed some beers, found ourselves a little corner and spent an hour or so dancing away, watching the ladies go by. So, we were in this room on the ground floor, and thought this was it - I was surprised that the music wasn't really banging, I heard Metro Area 5 again in here, some other stuff that I'm guessing was sort of Kompakt style things and some kinda modern poppy italo electronic stuff which I didn't have a clue what it was. The dj couldn't really beat match that well, but was working his records and pretty much had the crowd eating out of his hand. Everybody was going pretty wild... It took at least an hour for us to realise that there was infact more rooms to it! The Globus room is quite thin, but very long with bars at both ends, the dj box in the middle, raised up. High ceilings didn't really affect the sound at all and there was all the usual kinda 'club' decorations in there... At one end of the room was a little door leading to a tiny back room that was also a bar. There was a great dj on in here, again playing a bit of everything, and a garden out back which I sat in for a while and listened to the chit the guy was playing. Nice selections. You had to go through this room to get to the famous Tresor vault. Down the stairs, past the merchandise stall and past another bar, there were some metal gates leading to the vault Flippin 'eck! It was madness! Just a dark dark room (I couldnt see my hand infront of my face), a strobe, a low ceiling and it was packed with loads of mad german techno heads getting lost in the heavy heavy 'main room at Lost' kinda vibe. We spent a while down here. It was heavy s**t. Dark dark music, drum loops all the way, no melody, just driving hard music. I guess it could have been alot harder - UK heads, a Bicknell set in the main room at Lost was exactly what it was like They were using Ableton Live too when I popped over to have a look. I couldn't tell before I looked though which I guess was a good thing. so, anyway, we left tresor about 9.30 am and wondered the streets of Berlin, gazing at all the cool buildings in the basking sunshine. No map, didn't know where we were going but somehow ended up back on the street to out hostel. Stopped at the Petrol Station to find it sold beer! Happy Days! We stocked up, nipped back and changed our sweaty clothes and headed to the park to drink beer and smoke joints in the glorious sunshine. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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Crap! It's finally happened!! i knew one morning I'd wake up to find that suddenly everyones talking like Brad Pitt in the movie Snatch and I cant understand a word of it! ;^) sean on 6/9/04 6:59 AM, robin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm on the offensive too, I'm in fcuking Liverpool. Jesus, I'd been here 5 minutes, someone had asked to 'buy' my bike (so he got the hump when I told him to do one) and I saw some gippo trying to jimmy a phone box open (in broad daylight in the middle of town) 5 minutes, I kid you not. Welcome to the capital of culture. Pikey gippo m'feckers. oi! half of my family are from Liverpool :) ironically i was just saying to my mate over coffee that i've always disliked the place tho so there you go anyway, anyone got any new records? anything good? yeah my essential new record is the Shake mix of Osborne 'Bout Ready to Jak'now there's some real rave tackle for ya alex. oh yeah and the alexander technique rework/re-edit of ESG's 'Moody'...sublime (anyone know more about this?and thanks to chris A for pointing out it was the last one in the shop!) and that picture disc on deep transportation of the best two tracks off that Ferox TechnoSoul compilationfinally a good 12 pressing of them... and one i haven't got yet that i passed up when it came out is that DK edit of SoulCentral's cover of String of Life on whistlebumpbeing caned by most house DJs at Movement. aaah...feels good to talk music and not chickens wearing t-shirts with dumb slogans on :) robin...
RE: (313) new bits / Tresor
wicked!! sounds like you had a ball man and to me .thats what Berlin is all about :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 09/06/2004 13:56 To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: RE: (313) new bits / Tresor I have to say Alex this was my best gig ever becuase it was an ultimate dream come true and I loved the feel of the dark vault and its sweaty walls, its such a contrast to upstairs and if Tresor ever goes it will be a tragedy thats for sure. I'll bet Ian! yeah, that's some dark ass action they got going on down there. It's like some sort of torture vault or something. I have to say I liked upstairs though as well. Infact, I was in the pub last night and all my mates were pretty surprised that I thought it was so good... maybe it was because I was away and it all seemed different. I dunno, by the time I'd got to Tresor I'd been on a 24 hour non stop drinking bender. So my opinions are probs skewed. anyway I wrote a massive long post, I put a bit about tresor in so I cp'd so you can see my opinions on it. 5am came and the club shut. The rest of our boys had headed to bed, but I wasn't really up for going home, so Mike and I thought we'd head over to Tresor to see if it was still open. Arrived there 5.30 ish, walked in and it was JUMPING!! Pretty gob-smacked really, wasn't expecting much at all, but it was hot. Grabbed some beers, found ourselves a little corner and spent an hour or so dancing away, watching the ladies go by. So, we were in this room on the ground floor, and thought this was it - I was surprised that the music wasn't really banging, I heard Metro Area 5 again in here, some other stuff that I'm guessing was sort of Kompakt style things and some kinda modern poppy italo electronic stuff which I didn't have a clue what it was. The dj couldn't really beat match that well, but was working his records and pretty much had the crowd eating out of his hand. Everybody was going pretty wild... It took at least an hour for us to realise that there was infact more rooms to it! The Globus room is quite thin, but very long with bars at both ends, the dj box in the middle, raised up. High ceilings didn't really affect the sound at all and there was all the usual kinda 'club' decorations in there... At one end of the room was a little door leading to a tiny back room that was also a bar. There was a great dj on in here, again playing a bit of everything, and a garden out back which I sat in for a while and listened to the chit the guy was playing. Nice selections. You had to go through this room to get to the famous Tresor vault. Down the stairs, past the merchandise stall and past another bar, there were some metal gates leading to the vault Flippin 'eck! It was madness! Just a dark dark room (I couldnt see my hand infront of my face), a strobe, a low ceiling and it was packed with loads of mad german techno heads getting lost in the heavy heavy 'main room at Lost' kinda vibe. We spent a while down here. It was heavy s**t. Dark dark music, drum loops all the way, no melody, just driving hard music. I guess it could have been alot harder - UK heads, a Bicknell set in the main room at Lost was exactly what it was like They were using Ableton Live too when I popped over to have a look. I couldn't tell before I looked though which I guess was a good thing. so, anyway, we left tresor about 9.30 am and wondered the streets of Berlin, gazing at all the cool buildings in the basking sunshine. No map, didn't know where we were going but somehow ended up back on the street to out hostel. Stopped at the Petrol Station to find it sold beer! Happy Days! We stocked up, nipped back and changed our sweaty clothes and headed to the park to drink beer and smoke joints in the glorious sunshine. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) new bits
anyway, anyone got any new records? anything good? My 'record of the week' is Adam Johnson's 12 on Narita: http://www.juno.co.uk/IP/IF147896-01.htm The b-side tracks in particular are absolutely amazing. Also seriously digging Pepe Bradock's remixes of Candi Staton...
Re: (313) new bits
My 'record of the week' is Adam Johnson's 12 on Narita: from the clips, that sounds hot. thanks for the tip. need_to_pester_piccadilly_for_one Check A1 out though, is that not just phylps track 2 with something else over it? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) Scion Tikiman in Glasgow
Just a quick reminder for 313 heads north of the border (or who fancy a trip to sunny Glasgow this weekend) - Scion Tikiman will be doing the 'arrange and process Basic Channel' thing live in the Traxx room at the Arches on Saturday. Joe Claussell will also be playing in the Melting Pot room. I'll be playing alongside Scion with an Ableton Live set based on material from the Emoticon and Headspace back catalogues, plus a DJ set to finish the night off. Full event info at http://www.traxxevents.com There's also an afterparty at the Unit with some of the usual suspects and some special guests. Should be a good night... Apologies to non-UK listers! Cheers, Tom
(313) Kenny Larkin in Glasgow, June 25
http://img33.photobucket.com/albums/v99/grant23/larkweb2.jpg Damn, I'm away that weekend!
(313) Radio Show - Saturday 8pm to 10pm - www.wbar.org
This summer I am again doing my weekly radio show at WBAR, NYC 87.9 FM. My timeslot for this summer is Saturday, 8pm to 10pm. The show will be available through the FM frequency only on or about the Barnard and Columbia campuses in NYC. The show is otherwise available through an MP3 stream on the WBAR website. As always all shows will be archived as MP3s and the MP3s and playlists will be made available on my web site at www.skooch.com. I am not sure what will be played on this week's show so tune in and find out! Thank you. Eric
Re: (313) Kenny Larkin in Glasgow, June 25
someone should bring Kelvin over to the UK, i much preferred the stuff he played (and the way he did it) over the Movement weekend. robin... Tom Churchill wrote: http://img33.photobucket.com/albums/v99/grant23/larkweb2.jpg Damn, I'm away that weekend!
(313) Scion Tikiman in DUBLIN .. Free outdoor gig.
While we're on the subject of Scion and Tikiman, They'll be playing a free outdoor gig in Dublin as part of our summer series. They'll be playing on July 2nd in Dublin's meeting house square and then also playing again at D1's Model One later that night Thanks Eamonn / D1
Re: (313) please god, end the White Girls thread
On Jun 9, 2004, at 9:41 AM, Robert Taylor wrote: Jeeez - I was just puzzled by it and asked about it - America must be a f***ed up place racially if t-shirts like that are sported without anyone asking questions Sherman, set the Wayback for 40 years ago ... The coloured [sic] people have a ropey time here [in America]. You know, they wouldn't take us through the coloured section of San Antonio. I kept asking them to let me see it, but they'd never let me through. - Mick Jagger, NME, June 20th 1964 Plus ca change ... - Greg
Re: (313) 'Moodyman': 'The Silence Is Broken'
he's got to expect this kind of thing when he's unwilling to release in numbers that satisfy demand. its like holding yum candy just out of reach of kid with a sweet tooth. Ah sorry, no it isn't. First of all they're not little kids that have no idea of right or wrong. PERIOD. The people doing the bootlegging know it's illegal - that's why they never put their names on their work. I have no doubt that they love the music but I think their actions tell us they have no respect for the artist. If they did then maybe they could take the money it would have cost to press up the bootleg copies and approach KDJ about helping him out with doing more pressings. If KDJ balks at their idea or just turns them down - they owe him the RESPECT to not touch his work. Second - It sounds a bit like some people are jealous of KDJ's talent and because they can't make the music themselves - they rip him off! MEK
RE: (313) please god, end the White Girls thread
Hi Greg Who's Sherman? Now I know what it's like to be lost on American humour! -Original Message- From: Greg Earle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 3:08 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) please god, end the White Girls thread On Jun 9, 2004, at 9:41 AM, Robert Taylor wrote: Jeeez - I was just puzzled by it and asked about it - America must be a f***ed up place racially if t-shirts like that are sported without anyone asking questions Sherman, set the Wayback for 40 years ago ... The coloured [sic] people have a ropey time here [in America]. You know, they wouldn't take us through the coloured section of San Antonio. I kept asking them to let me see it, but they'd never let me through. - Mick Jagger, NME, June 20th 1964 Plus ca change ... - Greg # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) please god, end the White Girls thread
Ooops - not meant for the list - sorry! -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 4:12 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) please god, end the White Girls thread Hi Greg Who's Sherman? Now I know what it's like to be lost on American humour! -Original Message- From: Greg Earle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 3:08 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) please god, end the White Girls thread On Jun 9, 2004, at 9:41 AM, Robert Taylor wrote: Jeeez - I was just puzzled by it and asked about it - America must be a f***ed up place racially if t-shirts like that are sported without anyone asking questions Sherman, set the Wayback for 40 years ago ... The coloured [sic] people have a ropey time here [in America]. You know, they wouldn't take us through the coloured section of San Antonio. I kept asking them to let me see it, but they'd never let me through. - Mick Jagger, NME, June 20th 1964 Plus ca change ... - Greg # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) please god, end the White Girls thread
Well, since it's out here now - I'll explain who Sherman is. Sherman is Mr. Peabody's boy assistant. Mr. Peabody is a professor of history and science. Mr. Peabody is also a dog who has the ability to walk bipedal. Together they would travel back in time to talk about history. hope that helps ;) MEK Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org 4.co.uk cc: Subject: RE: (313) please god, end the White Girls thread 06/09/04 11:13 AM Ooops - not meant for the list - sorry! -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 4:12 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) please god, end the White Girls thread Hi Greg Who's Sherman? Now I know what it's like to be lost on American humour! -Original Message- From: Greg Earle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 3:08 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) please god, end the White Girls thread On Jun 9, 2004, at 9:41 AM, Robert Taylor wrote: Jeeez - I was just puzzled by it and asked about it - America must be a f***ed up place racially if t-shirts like that are sported without anyone asking questions Sherman, set the Wayback for 40 years ago ... The coloured [sic] people have a ropey time here [in America]. You know, they wouldn't take us through the coloured section of San Antonio. I kept asking them to let me see it, but they'd never let me through. - Mick Jagger, NME, June 20th 1964 Plus ca change ... - Greg # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) 'Moodyman': 'The Bootleg Is Broken'
Ken Odeluga wrote I said myself that the dearth of supply does not justify anyone bootlegging. Agreed Ken If I'm short on money then, by using the same argument that some are making, the government should just expect me to go out and print up my own money that looks exactly like their money. What they should do instead of getting upset with me and throwing my @ss in jail is just print more money so I can get some. Like. MEK
RE: (313) 'Moodyman': 'The Bootleg Is Broken'
What is it with you guys? All he said was that in limiting the supply, it creates a bigger market for the bootleggers. I would have thought this was pretty obvious, so why the controvesy? He doesn't say that it's ok to bootleg because there's a market does he!! I was discussing with my mates the rise of certain far right parties not so far from here in the UK (we're voting atm). I'm glad none of you guys were along there, as we'd all be branded racists and accused of voting for them just for discussing the reasons for their rise in popularity. Blimey. And that money analogy is slightly daft. If the government prints more money then the money will be worth less and the country will get poorer and you won't be able to buy a loaf of bread with it. So not quite the same as pressing more records up really as their loss in value won't stop anyone from buying bread. Get a grip. Ken Odeluga wrote I said myself that the dearth of supply does not justify anyone bootlegging. Agreed Ken If I'm short on money then, by using the same argument that some are making, the government should just expect me to go out and print up my own money that looks exactly like their money. What they should do instead of getting upset with me and throwing my @ss in jail is just print more money so I can get some. Like. MEK
Re: (313) Unabombers
sorry for lateness on this. yeah definitely worth cheking out...they play a nice selection of stuff from old disco to more hip-hop things to kdj/theo type stuff... one of their clubs (electrik chair) is rammed every month so they're doing something right alex: can u think of any detail i've missed? hope that helps robin... Christopher Davey wrote: The Unabombers are playing in Melbourne on Friday night. Can anyone tell me anything about them? The only thing I know about them is that they're from Manchester, and they charted the Moxie edit of Talking Heads at the top of their 5. Should I go see them? Cheers Chris
RE: (313) 'Moodyman': 'The Bootleg Is Broken'
All he said was that in limiting the supply, it creates a bigger market for the bootleggers. I would have thought this was pretty obvious, so why the controvesy? He doesn't say that it's ok to bootleg because there's a market does he!! hmm maybe it is the limits of online communication, but i read it as a list of excuses/rationalizations for bootlegging -- my apologies to mistake the intent. altho i think the reasons for bootlegging are intuitive. yes when there is greater supply and a release is in print, it creates less of a market for bootlegging. obviously. i don't see what the point of stating the obvious was unless it was an attempt to justify bootleggingguess i read too seriously.. I was discussing with my mates the rise of certain far right parties not so far from here in the UK (we're voting atm). I'm glad none of you guys were along there, as we'd all be branded racists and accused of voting for them just for discussing the reasons for their rise in popularity. Blimey. i'm sure the reasons are a lot more interesting and less obvious than supply-demand. we all know how capitalism works. _ Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/
RE: (313) Unabombers
Luke Unambombers used to play keys in the New Fast Automatic Daffodils and is now Only Child, who did U Bring Me Vibes with Amp Fiddle. And they stuck Think Twice on their last comp - which brings us comfily back into 313 territory! ;) -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 4:13 PM To: Christopher Davey Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Unabombers sorry for lateness on this. yeah definitely worth cheking out...they play a nice selection of stuff from old disco to more hip-hop things to kdj/theo type stuff... one of their clubs (electrik chair) is rammed every month so they're doing something right alex: can u think of any detail i've missed? hope that helps robin... Christopher Davey wrote: The Unabombers are playing in Melbourne on Friday night. Can anyone tell me anything about them? The only thing I know about them is that they're from Manchester, and they charted the Moxie edit of Talking Heads at the top of their 5. Should I go see them? Cheers Chris # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) 'Moodyman': 'The Bootleg Is Broken'
If the government prints more money then the money will be worth less and the country will get poorer and you won't be able to buy a loaf of bread with it. So not quite the same as pressing more records up really as their loss in value won't stop anyone from buying bread. You missed the point completely. It's not the individual value of the object - it's the act of getting personal gain with someone else's work against their will. And then to have KDJ EXPECT - meaning to consider reasonable or due - that he's going to get ripped off. he's got to expect this kind of thing when he's unwilling to release in numbers that satisfy demand. Now can you explain to me why KDJ is expected to be ripped off? Is he due that? Is it reasonable? I think he should actually expect an apology from these f#ckheads. I'm glad none of you guys were along there, as we'd all be branded racists and accused of voting for them just for discussing the reasons for their rise in popularity. we're one step away from the nazi theory MEK
RE: (313) 'Moodyman': 'The Bootleg Is Broken'
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] And then to have KDJ EXPECT - meaning to consider reasonable or due... A bit of a semantic sidepoint here, but to expect something is going to happen isn't the same as accepting that the coming event is reasonable or justifiable. For example, I might wander around the streets of Brixton with an iPod held in my right hand, talking distractedly into a posh mobile phone held in my left. In that sort of situation, I might (well, I *would*) expect to get mugged. But that doesn't mean that I think the mugging is a reasonable or justifiable act. If there was an analogy here, it would probably be this: a university lecturer asks her politics class to hold a discussion around the question what caused September 11th?; half the class storm out enraged, claiming that she's an Al-Qaeda supporter who should be locked up... Brendan
Re: (313) 'Moodyman': 'The Bootleg Is Broken'
we're one step away from the nazi theory Okay, this thread is offically dead.. :) Sven
(313) Rich/Magda in Los Angeles tomorrow night (Thursday, June 10th)
(Once again, for the 5 LA readers of this list ;-) ) THURS. JUNE 10 AVALON RICHIE HAWTIN MAGDA [Plus 8, M_Nus] 10-4am | $20 | 21+ Sign up on the $10 list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Located: Avalon @ 1735 North Vine, Hollywood (formerly The Palace) Info: http://www.AvalonHollywood.COM/ - Greg
RE: (313) 'Moodyman': 'The Silence Is Broken'
-- Original Message -- From: Ken Odeluga [EMAIL PROTECTED] I said myself that the dearth of supply does not justify anyone bootlegging. I'd have to be pretty stupid to imply that bootleggers are justified who cares if bootlegging is justified or not? its justification or lack thereof isnt going to stop them from existing. the only thing you can do is to examine what makes a bootlegger decide to bootleg a product: limited supply and excessive demand. bootleggers dont bootleg things that are always in print. UR doesnt have this problem (aside from those ultimate bootleggers sony) because their music is always in print. so by simple examination its easy to see that the only ways to avoid bootlegging are to put out a product that no one wants to buy or to keep popular items in print. bootlegging has always and will always exist, just like drug use and whatever other negative aspects of music you can think of. so instead of trying to treat the symptom, nip the problem in the butt and you wont ever have to worry about it. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) 'Moodyman': 'The Silence Is Broken'
-- Original Message -- From: Ken Odeluga [EMAIL PROTECTED] I said myself that the dearth of supply does not justify anyone bootlegging. I'd have to be pretty stupid to imply that bootleggers are justified who cares if bootlegging is justified or not? its justification or lack thereof isnt going to stop them from existing. the only thing you can do is to examine what makes a bootlegger decide to bootleg a product: limited supply and excessive demand. bootleggers dont bootleg things that are always in print. UR doesnt have this problem (aside from those ultimate bootleggers sony) because their music is always in print. so by simple examination its easy to see that the only ways to avoid bootlegging are to put out a product that no one wants to buy or to keep popular items in print. bootlegging has always and will always exist, just like drug use and whatever other negative aspects of music you can think of. so instead of trying to treat the symptom, nip the problem in the butt and you wont ever have to worry about it. tom Thanks Tom. Have to say, I made this exact same point in my second post on this subject. Cheers, Ken
Re: (313) 'Moodyman': 'The Silence Is Broken'
Or as Dylan Thomas once said: Somebody's boring me ... I think it's me.
FW: (313) 'Moodyman': 'The Bootleg Is Broken'
-Original Message- From: Ken Odeluga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 5:57 PM To: Sven Venema Subject: RE: (313) 'Moodyman': 'The Bootleg Is Broken' Okay, this thread is offically dead.. :) Right on. I'd say the horse has been flogged into something resembling tomato puree by now! Apart from that, there seem to be many people who - *quite apart from whichever point of view they adhere to, which they're entirely entitled to: 1) Whether deliberately or accidentally seem to misattribute comments to the wrong person. 2) Can't seem to have this debate without recourse to unpleasantness which simply begets it in others - I have to accept that I dipped my own toe into that failing earlier, although I didn't swear and tried to keep a lid on angry words. Can I suggest to anyone who doesn't want to participate in the Bi-Monthly 313 Flame Fest, that they stop replying - as I will - to posts with this subject line now? And let's talk about some (legitimate) music and leave it to those who seem to enjoy this type of situation for some reason, despite the fact that it really leads nowwhere in terms of improved understanding and knowledge. Cheers, k
(313) UR Timeline live - QuickTime snippets
http://UndergroundResistance.COM/transmitter.html Short video of the start of the Tokyo Timeline show, and a longer snippet of them doing Final Frontier. Can't really see much worth a sh!te, but it still makes every hair on my neck stand on end to hear it ... - Greg (who'd give anything for a Timeline Los Angeles gig ... fat chance)
Re: (313) Malik Alston's Band
- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The above text is from rushhours site. Has anyone heard it? Might I like it? i picked up the white label 12 in detroit, very nice vocal house mixes of two tunes, and two downtempo numbers. very clean production for detroit, but nice. also, someone posted about the 3 chairs LP the other day - any more info on that? release date, tracklist etc? talked to malik pittman yesterday, he said itll be at distributors in the US next week. looking fwd to that one for sure. tom andythepooh.com
(313) Booty Bass, Booty Booty
Check it...top stuff http://ruben.fm/ghetto.html
Re: (313) 'Moodyman': 'The Silence Is Broken'
Im sorry, reading the archives does not sort out my opinions on the matter. I think you're being somewhat unreasonable expecting the list to never touch on the same subject twice :) I'll shut up now - Original Message - From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 6:22 AM Subject: Re: (313) 'Moodyman': 'The Silence Is Broken' Haven't we discussed the whole issue of bootlegging just a couple of months ago with the other KDJ bootleg? Can't we stop this, it is like a digital deja-vu, same arguments again, people who care about an artist right fot intulectual and artistic property and people who don't care about it. Same discussion, same people... read the archives i would say :) KJ On Wednesday, June 09, 2004, at 07:24AM, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont think bootlegging is ok, because thats attacking some peoples livelihood (the affected musicians) but I also think it should indicate to the artist that there is a market gap to be filled. you can either fill it with undoubtadly higher quality re-releases and make money, or you can lose the money, send expensive lawyers after the bootleggers, and end up broke but with a whole load of artistic integrity. no one has to agree with this, as I know its not a very common point of view, but since you asked ... :)))
Re: (313) new bits
and one i haven't got yet that i passed up when it came out is that DK edit of SoulCentral's cover of String of Life on whistlebumpbeing caned by most house DJs at Movement. There is a white label floating around with 'Stringz' in writing on the label. Seemed to be two deep house mixes of strings of life. Anyone know anything about this release? aaah...feels good to talk music and not chickens wearing t-shirts with dumb slogans on :) amen to that... -drew
RE: (313) plastikman live?
the live set at the picnik was ctually Troy Pierce (M-nus/Run Stop Restore) herbert played soem great records On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, LR T wrote: I will preface this by saying that personally, I loved it but many others were highly dissapointed and thought it was a disaster. I totally did not get that at all. My impressions Musically I thought it was great. For me it was really special to see him up there, surrounded by lots o' gear, constantly tweaking knobs and hearing his tracks come out. Lots of tracks from Closer. You would hear a very recognizable loop and then he would sort of deconstruct it or add on to it, making it almost a brand new track yet still retain the same flavor. He would kind of weave in and out of them. The overall performance lacked some oomph if that makes sense. The visuals were sort of dissapointing. They had hyped it up to be this amazing sound and visual experience. Supposedly the technical problems were pretty substantial. He went on about two hours late. There was talk that he hadn't run through a thorough sound check once everything was set up at the venue. Who knows? It was a cool venue, great sound, and nice vibe. I left satisfied. Props to the Mutek crew for putting on a great festival. The events all ran pretty smoothly. One of the highlights was the Piknik Elektronic. An outdoor party on Sunday afternoon in a beautiful park overlooking the river and downtown Montreal with suprise sets from Magda and a live PA from Herbert. All for $5.00 nonetheless! my .02 Lara From: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) plastikman live? Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 23:53:54 -0400 well??? :) -Joe _ Get fast, reliable Internet access with MSN 9 Dial-up ? now 3 months FREE! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/
Re: (313) plastikman live?
anyone catch smith and hack? I'd really like to catch a live act by them, although some of the errorsmith live stuff I have is somewhat gutwrenching - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LR T [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 2:41 PM Subject: RE: (313) plastikman live? the live set at the picnik was ctually Troy Pierce (M-nus/Run Stop Restore) herbert played soem great records On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, LR T wrote: I will preface this by saying that personally, I loved it but many others were highly dissapointed and thought it was a disaster. I totally did not get that at all. My impressions Musically I thought it was great. For me it was really special to see him up there, surrounded by lots o' gear, constantly tweaking knobs and hearing his tracks come out. Lots of tracks from Closer. You would hear a very recognizable loop and then he would sort of deconstruct it or add on to it, making it almost a brand new track yet still retain the same flavor. He would kind of weave in and out of them. The overall performance lacked some oomph if that makes sense. The visuals were sort of dissapointing. They had hyped it up to be this amazing sound and visual experience. Supposedly the technical problems were pretty substantial. He went on about two hours late. There was talk that he hadn't run through a thorough sound check once everything was set up at the venue. Who knows? It was a cool venue, great sound, and nice vibe. I left satisfied. Props to the Mutek crew for putting on a great festival. The events all ran pretty smoothly. One of the highlights was the Piknik Elektronic. An outdoor party on Sunday afternoon in a beautiful park overlooking the river and downtown Montreal with suprise sets from Magda and a live PA from Herbert. All for $5.00 nonetheless! my .02 Lara From: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) plastikman live? Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 23:53:54 -0400 well??? :) -Joe _ Get fast, reliable Internet access with MSN 9 Dial-up – now 3 months FREE! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/
Re: (313) new bits
I've been dropping that Shake remix a lot -- I love the grungy midrange and distorted kick.that Osbournermx record isvery good-- each cutslamswhilemaintaining its own distinct personality. I haven't bought too many new records lately, mostly filling holes inmy italo and acid-house collections viaCheapo andeBay.I had some cash set aside for record shopping in Detroit, but I didn't drive and none of my friends felt like record shopping. I think I'm about due for some online record shopping-- I really want the Matzo Pauli EP on Viewlexx, and I still don't have the newer DJ Bone releases on Subject Detroit... ...and yes MEK, I finally joined the listagain :) - jobot - Original Message - From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2004 5:59 am Subject: Re: (313) new bits I'm on the offensive too, I'm in fcuking Liverpool. Jesus, I'd been here 5 minutes, someone had asked to 'buy' my bike (so he got the hump when I told him to do one) and I saw some gippo trying to jimmy a phone box open (in broad daylight in the middle of town) 5 minutes, I kid you not. Welcome to the capital of culture. Pikey gippo m'feckers. oi! half of my family are from Liverpool :) ironically i was just saying to my mate over coffee that i've always disliked the place tho so there you goanyway, anyone got any new records? anything good? yeah my essential new record is the Shake mix of Osborne 'Bout Ready to Jak'now there's some real rave tackle for ya alex. oh yeah and the alexander technique rework/re-edit of ESG's 'Moody'...sublime (anyone know more about this?and thanks to chris A for pointing out it was the last one in the shop!) and that picture disc on deep transportation of the best two tracks off that Ferox TechnoSoul compilationfinally a good 12" pressing of them... and one i haven't got yet that i passed up when it came out is that DK edit of SoulCentral's cover of String of Life on whistlebumpbeing caned by most house DJs at Movement. aaah...feels good to talk music and not chickens wearing t-shirts with dumb slogans on :)robin...
Re: RE: (313) new bits / Tresor
I was at Tresor for the first time back in Feb, and it also took us an hour or two to figure out there were more rooms.The basement is *insane*, has to be one of the most intense techno-related experiences anywhere. Sounds like I need to go back and do a bit more exploring; I must have missed the Globus room completely... The other great thing about Tresor is the cost. 10 Euros for Blake Baxter, Pacou, and a host of others I can't recall at the moment -- plus cheap beer. Did you stay at The Circus Hostel? that place is amazing... - jobot - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2004 7:56 am Subject: RE: (313) new bits / Tresor I have to say Alex this was my best gig ever becuase it was an ultimatedream come true and I loved the feel of the dark vault and its sweaty walls, its such a contrast to upstairs and if Tresor ever goes it will be a tragedy thats for sure. I'll bet Ian! yeah, that's some dark ass action they got going on down there. It's like some sort of torture vault or something. I have to say I liked upstairs though as well. Infact, I was in the pub last night and all my mates were pretty surprised that I thought it was so good... maybe it was because I was away and it all seemed different. I dunno, by the time I'd got to Tresor I'd been on a 24 hour non stop drinking bender. So my opinions are probs skewed. anyway I wrote a massive long post, I put a bit about tresor in so I cp'd so you can see my opinions on it. "5am came and the club shut. The rest of our boys had headed to bed, but I wasn't really up for going home, so Mike and I thought we'd head over to Tresor to see if it was still open. Arrived there 5.30 ish, walked in and it was JUMPING!! Pretty gob-smacked really, wasn't expecting much at all, but it was hot. Grabbed some beers, found ourselves a little corner and spent an hour or so dancing away, watching the ladies go by. So, we were in this room on the ground floor, and thought this was it - I was surprisedthat the music wasn't really banging, I heard Metro Area 5 again in here, some other stuff that I'm guessing was sort of Kompakt style things and some kinda modern poppy italo electronic stuff which I didn't have a clue what it was. The dj couldn't really beat match that well, but was workinghis records and pretty much had the crowd eating out of his hand. Everybody was going pretty wild... It took at least an hour for us to realise that there was infact more rooms to it! The "Globus" room is quite thin, but very long with bars at bothends, the dj box in the middle, raised up. High ceilings didn't really affect the sound at all and there was all the usual kinda 'club' decorations in there... At one end of the room was a little door leading to a tiny back room that was also a bar. There was a great dj on in here, again playing a bit of everything, and a garden out back which I sat in for a while and listened to the chit the guy was playing. Nice selections. You had to go through this room to get to the famous Tresor vault. Down the stairs, past the merchandise stall and past another bar, there were some metal gates leading to the vault Flippin 'eck! It was madness! Just a dark dark room (I couldnt see my hand infront of my face), a strobe, a low ceiling and it was packed with loads of mad german techno heads getting lost in the heavy heavy 'main room at Lost' kinda vibe. We spent a while down here. It was heavy s**t. Dark dark music, drum loops all the way, no melody, just driving hard music. I guess it could have been alot harder - UK heads, a Bicknell set in the main room at Lost was exactly what it was like They were using Ableton Live too when I popped over to have a look. I couldn't tell before I looked thoughwhich I guess was a good thing. so, anyway, we left tresor about 9.30 am and wondered the streets of Berlin, gazing at all the cool buildings in the basking sunshine. No map, didn't know where we were going but somehow ended up back on the street to out hostel. Stopped at the Petrol Station to find it sold beer! Happy Days! We stocked up, nipped back and changed our sweaty clothes and headed to the park to drink beer and smoke joints in the glorious sunshine." _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) om festival 2004
june 18-21 www.omfestival.ca for full details. -- [neil adam wiernik aka naw] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [music available on] http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com http://www.pieheadrecords.com http://www.worthyrecords.com http://www.complot.ca [artist features] http://www.clevermusic.net http://www.newmusiccanada.com http://www.cognitionaudioworks.com --
