(313) Help Matthew Herbert
Here's a press release I just got about the new Herbert album: Dear All, You are about to be given the opportunity for assisting Matthew Herbert with his latest album – due for release next year. You are also about to being the opportunity to feature on it! Below, enclosed are the instructions. Follow carefully and then call the number to leave Matthew his message. DEADLINE: 29.11.05 All the Best and Good Luck !K7 Records Matthew Herbert and his Answering Machine: Matthew Herbert; renowned Jazz Musician, electro-acoustic legend, big band conductor, 90’s house warrior, soundtrack scorer extraordinaire, author of the highly influential ‘Personal Contract for the Composition of Music’, speaker for the anti-globalisation movement and the man responsible for the highly popular ‘Bodily Functions’ and ‘Plat du Jour’ albums is at it again….. Matthew has a new album in the pipeline. Similar to his previous offerings Matthew does not intend to steer away from his dominating, God-like use of the sampler, and the rule to which his music is created; ‘the use of sounds that already exist is not allowed’. A rule, which has lead to his music being created through the sounds of food preparation and household appliances, for example, instead of the monotonous, processed, synthetic beats of standard drum machines. Thus manifesting itself into an entirely original amalgamation of music and sounds. His latest release, the critically acclaimed, ‘Plat du Jour’ was created over a period of 18 months, and consisted of 30,000 chickens, 3,255 people biting on an apple, and a cheiftan mk 10 battle tank – to list just a few of the ingredients making up this epic release. So what has Matthew in store for us now….? To be honest I don’t think anyone will know until his new record is released, but for one of the up and coming tracks on this yet, untitled album, he requires your assistance. Yes. You! At the !K7 office we have installed a separate phone line, the ‘Herbert Hotline’, if you will. Unfortunately there’s no-one at the other end to pick it up, just an answering machine. Your task, should you choose to accept it, is to call this number and leave a message consisting of a single sound. It could be organic, vocal, mechanical, natural – even bodily. Remember you’re dealing with a man who has created music from the recording of coffee cups and sewer systems, so the more original the better. These sounds will be collected on the answering machine and past on to the grand, musical conductor himself, who will fuse the sounds together to create a grand musical cacophony that only he knows will sound like. To add extra intrigue to this task you must under no circumstances state, or give any indication as to what the sound is. Should you believe that your contribution is worthy enough of credit and acknowledgement then you should email us ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), and your musical contribution will be duly noted. So go on, give the ‘Herbert Hotline’ a ring….. +49 (0) 32 22 1918 394 -- McIntosh Cooey - Twelve Hundred Group LLC - http://www.1200group.com/
Re: (313) which good live acts are there?
There's an excellent live act in Melbourne called Phunk De Sonique. -- From: Ian Cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (313) which good live acts are there? Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 2:33 AM Fabrice Lig, unless already mentioned :) Octave One, Matt Johnson, Carl Craig, and Tortured Soul and Amp Fiddler, are some live acts whom I remember as being more than just good. Some I saw at clubs, others at festivals and/or more concert-type gigs. Ken * Before ya'll start throwing names at me, let me first minimalize the possible answers. I'm not really asking for those strictly-techno-people-has-to-dance-to-this kinda live sets. I'm actually thinking about Kirk Degiorgio for example. Does he do live acts??? Or Carl Craig (besides Tres Demented), can you book him for a Carl Craig or Innerzone Orchestra live??? With these names in mind, maybe you can help me out. You know... people with a large and diverse catalogue... able to bring a good live act... not really for da clubs... more concert-like. THANX GREETS from Belgium. www.midnightbeats.de www.kube72.com www.detroitimpression.com
Re: (313) Environ news and new Kelley Polar
Isn't this amazing? I loved it - so melodic and emotive and poetic. It's very dreamy. Prob my fave electronic album at the moment. I Got the new environ newsletter today and decided to buy the new kelley polar album from bleep. Anyone else listened to it yet? Seems a bit different to previous releases, quite a few vocals used. Some of the tracks I really like and I think the album as a whole works. I'm just not quite sure about some of the vocals. It's odd, I'm usually all for vocals especially when done well. To me this album has an unusual sound, some of the tracks have sounds of swayzak and others of kraftwerk. Rooms InMyHouseHaveManyParties and Tyurangalila I like quite a bit, I'm sure the others will catch after a few more listens.
(313) detroit SF house saturday night
Hey, so I guess Mike Clark and Delano Smith will be in town saturday night. info below. John Tejada is playing with Justin Maxwell the same night. Also looking forward to Dan Bell coming in December http://www.kontrolsf.com/ Talk to you all later Forward SF and Free Radicals present BODY ELECTRIC Saturday November 19th Room 1 (house) Mike Clark AKA Agent X [BeatDownSounds / Planet e / GotSoul / Third Ear] - Detroit (Mike Agent X Clark is known as the ambassador of Detroit house, an original member of the Underground Resistance, and now part of the Beat Down Sounds Crew. His production work has reached dance floors world wide with records on Planet E, Beat Down Sounds, Underground Resistance, Nitegroove and many others. Mike has just head lined the main stage at America's biggest electronic music festival the DEMF/FUSE in Detroit, he has been one of a hand full of Dj's to play the original San Francisco Wicked Party's. Agent X's funky soulful deep blend of house is a living example of Detroit's house music culture.) Delano Smith [BeatDownSounds / Third Ear / StillMusic / MixMode] - Detroit (Delano Smith is rising to be one of Detroit's hottest dj's / producers, playing his sound all over the world. His label Mix Mode recordings is setting dance floors on fire every where. Deep as they come, Delano has brought the message of house to audiences world wide, a true house head for ever come join us for this exclusive one time appearance and hear this master in the mix.) Jeno (wicked) Justin Martin - [Dirtybird / Buzzin'fly] Rebecca Watkins [forward] Room 2 (electro) Adnan [Forward / Free Radicals] Dhyan [Free Radicals] Sean Evans [Lo-Rise] Jeniluv [DHP / Fistfight] Brian Wall [Stylus] Gingerbread Warehouse - 1275 Connecticut @ Cesar Chavez SF, 10pm to 6am $10 list @ www.body-electric.org / $15 at the door. more info (415) 820-1552
Re: (313) Genres
a while back everyone on soulseek was raving on about Latvian Banjo Trance but I'm more into Minimal Gabber Ambient - Original Message - From: max [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 7:50 PM Subject: (313) Genres -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 November 2005 18:15 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) new genre! On Tue, November 15, 2005 5:18 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, I saw that yesterday too and though wtf?! It sounds like electro or techno to me but I suppose it has a particular Another new genre is ElectroKrunk or EuroKrunk! Thanks to Boomkat.com for pointing that out from me. Just for a laugh we could try creating a fictitious genre and see if we can get it into a magazine or mentioned on the radio as the new hot thing! I'll get the ball rolling, How about : Spanish-Banjo Tec-Grime : Speed Ambient : Happy Trip Core : Progressive Acoustic Acid. Just got back from Berlin, What a great City! It was Proper Úber! Max [mxm] dance that goes with it (like jitting or the twist - for lack of a better example) so it gets a new genre name? However, I'm so very very tired of genre splitting. It's gotten old. I suppose it's a way for people to make their music stand out from the rest of the pile. i kind of disagree. i think everyone should invent their own genres! who wants to make house or techno? that sh*t sounds so boring. tom
(313) Ambient graphics?
Not sure if 313 has seen this, but it looks like fun... http://www.bastwood.com/aphex.php
RE: (313) Genres
TECHNO IS AN EGG. Kks PS. DON'T DIE. I'M WITH KAMAL. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE MEANS BUT I LIKE THE SOUND OF IT _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Ambient graphics?
Not sure if 313 has seen this, but it looks like fun... http://www.bastwood.com/aphex.php blimey. it's a unique idea I must admit. not as if I ever thought while listening to music, hmm, must spectorographically analyse this later. still, these INTELLIGENT DANCE MUSIC listeners are pretty clever huh? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Ambient graphics?
The noise is pretty easy to spot in recordings, although it's well nerdy, boys and toys eh :) On 16 Nov 2005, at 09:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure if 313 has seen this, but it looks like fun... http://www.bastwood.com/aphex.php blimey. it's a unique idea I must admit. not as if I ever thought while listening to music, hmm, must spectorographically analyse this later. still, these INTELLIGENT DANCE MUSIC listeners are pretty clever huh? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) Genres
I call everything I listen to electronic music and leave it at that - why restrict yourself to one narrow genre when you listen to much more than that? -Original Message- From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 November 2005 20:15 To: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: Re: (313) Genres On 15-nov-2005, at 21:13, Martin Dust wrote: It's really Ironica, we daren't call it techno, that's what that is :) Of course not! I am such a techno-purist that i can't call anything techno because it ain't pure! :) - Original Message - From: Jari Tolkkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 7:32 PM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: (313) Genres The one really awful genre is electronica. Mostly seen on US record stores. What the hell is that? And what is it with this scouse house seen on juno? Sheesh... # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Help Matthew Herbert
Excellent - I'm going to have some fun with this -Original Message- From: Tosh Cooey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2005 01:07 To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (313) Help Matthew Herbert Here's a press release I just got about the new Herbert album: Dear All, You are about to be given the opportunity for assisting Matthew Herbert with his latest album – due for release next year. You are also about to being the opportunity to feature on it! Below, enclosed are the instructions. Follow carefully and then call the number to leave Matthew his message. DEADLINE: 29.11.05 All the Best and Good Luck !K7 Records Matthew Herbert and his Answering Machine: Matthew Herbert; renowned Jazz Musician, electro-acoustic legend, big band conductor, 90’s house warrior, soundtrack scorer extraordinaire, author of the highly influential ‘Personal Contract for the Composition of Music’, speaker for the anti-globalisation movement and the man responsible for the highly popular ‘Bodily Functions’ and ‘Plat du Jour’ albums is at it again….. Matthew has a new album in the pipeline. Similar to his previous offerings Matthew does not intend to steer away from his dominating, God-like use of the sampler, and the rule to which his music is created; ‘the use of sounds that already exist is not allowed’. A rule, which has lead to his music being created through the sounds of food preparation and household appliances, for example, instead of the monotonous, processed, synthetic beats of standard drum machines. Thus manifesting itself into an entirely original amalgamation of music and sounds. His latest release, the critically acclaimed, ‘Plat du Jour’ was created over a period of 18 months, and consisted of 30,000 chickens, 3,255 people biting on an apple, and a cheiftan mk 10 battle tank – to list just a few of the ingredients making up this epic release. So what has Matthew in store for us now….? To be honest I don’t think anyone will know until his new record is released, but for one of the up and coming tracks on this yet, untitled album, he requires your assistance. Yes. You! At the !K7 office we have installed a separate phone line, the ‘Herbert Hotline’, if you will. Unfortunately there’s no-one at the other end to pick it up, just an answering machine. Your task, should you choose to accept it, is to call this number and leave a message consisting of a single sound. It could be organic, vocal, mechanical, natural – even bodily. Remember you’re dealing with a man who has created music from the recording of coffee cups and sewer systems, so the more original the better. These sounds will be collected on the answering machine and past on to the grand, musical conductor himself, who will fuse the sounds together to create a grand musical cacophony that only he knows will sound like. To add extra intrigue to this task you must under no circumstances state, or give any indication as to what the sound is. Should you believe that your contribution is worthy enough of credit and acknowledgement then you should email us ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), and your musical contribution will be duly noted. So go on, give the ‘Herbert Hotline’ a ring….. +49 (0) 32 22 1918 394 -- McIntosh Cooey - Twelve Hundred Group LLC - http://www.1200group.com/ # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) Genres
The point I was trying to make badly is people started calling their music something else because they believed calling it Techno we damage their sales - Moby for example... On 15-nov-2005, at 21:13, Martin Dust wrote: It's really Ironica, we daren't call it techno, that's what that is :) Of course not! I am such a techno-purist that i can't call anything techno because it ain't pure! :) - Original Message - From: Jari Tolkkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 7:32 PM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: (313) Genres The one really awful genre is electronica. Mostly seen on US record stores. What the hell is that? And what is it with this scouse house seen on juno? Sheesh... ### ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ### ##
Re: (313) Ambient graphics?
The noise is pretty easy to spot in recordings, although it's well nerdy, boys and toys eh :) well yeah, but ignore me, I've just got the hump cos I got broadband at home (woo), and now my email won't work (boo). tech-bloody-nology. p.s. I put rhythm is rhythm into my new ACME spectro-lographer and got a picture of birdseye fishfingers. what does it mean? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) Genres
When did Moby do that? -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2005 10:05 To: 313 Mailinglist List; Klaas-Jan Jongsma Subject: Re: (313) Genres The point I was trying to make badly is people started calling their music something else because they believed calling it Techno we damage their sales - Moby for example... On 15-nov-2005, at 21:13, Martin Dust wrote: It's really Ironica, we daren't call it techno, that's what that is :) Of course not! I am such a techno-purist that i can't call anything techno because it ain't pure! :) - Original Message - From: Jari Tolkkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 7:32 PM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: (313) Genres The one really awful genre is electronica. Mostly seen on US record stores. What the hell is that? And what is it with this scouse house seen on juno? Sheesh... ### ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ### ## # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) Genres
The point I was trying to make badly is people started calling their music something else because they believed calling it Techno we damage their sales - Moby for example... the word techno probably doesn't help I guess due to peoples pre-conceived ideas about what techno is. but still, IT IS WHAT IT IS. etc. i sorta tend to lean towards what rob says, and just call it electronic music. suppose that makes me a bit of a bottler or something. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Genres
He made a defo move from calling his stuff Techno to Electronica in the 90's, saying in many interviews that he hasn't made a Techno record for a long time... On 16 Nov 2005, at 10:09, Robert Taylor wrote: When did Moby do that? -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2005 10:05 To: 313 Mailinglist List; Klaas-Jan Jongsma Subject: Re: (313) Genres The point I was trying to make badly is people started calling their music something else because they believed calling it Techno we damage their sales - Moby for example... On 15-nov-2005, at 21:13, Martin Dust wrote: It's really Ironica, we daren't call it techno, that's what that is :) Of course not! I am such a techno-purist that i can't call anything techno because it ain't pure! :) - Original Message - From: Jari Tolkkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 7:32 PM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: (313) Genres The one really awful genre is electronica. Mostly seen on US record stores. What the hell is that? And what is it with this scouse house seen on juno? Sheesh... ## # ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ## # ## ### ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ### ##
RE: (313) Genres
How does it make you a bottler? No one listens to just techno -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2005 10:13 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Genres The point I was trying to make badly is people started calling their music something else because they believed calling it Techno we damage their sales - Moby for example... the word techno probably doesn't help I guess due to peoples pre-conceived ideas about what techno is. but still, IT IS WHAT IT IS. etc. i sorta tend to lean towards what rob says, and just call it electronic music. suppose that makes me a bit of a bottler or something. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Genres
That was true though - he hadn't - Play isn't a techno record is it? -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2005 10:24 To: Robert Taylor Cc: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: Re: (313) Genres He made a defo move from calling his stuff Techno to Electronica in the 90's, saying in many interviews that he hasn't made a Techno record for a long time... On 16 Nov 2005, at 10:09, Robert Taylor wrote: When did Moby do that? -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2005 10:05 To: 313 Mailinglist List; Klaas-Jan Jongsma Subject: Re: (313) Genres The point I was trying to make badly is people started calling their music something else because they believed calling it Techno we damage their sales - Moby for example... On 15-nov-2005, at 21:13, Martin Dust wrote: It's really Ironica, we daren't call it techno, that's what that is :) Of course not! I am such a techno-purist that i can't call anything techno because it ain't pure! :) - Original Message - From: Jari Tolkkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 7:32 PM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: (313) Genres The one really awful genre is electronica. Mostly seen on US record stores. What the hell is that? And what is it with this scouse house seen on juno? Sheesh... ## # ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ## # ## ### ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ### ## # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) Genres
It's a tricky one Rob because it depends on how you really define Techno, I personally see it as a very wide spectrum but the gripe I have is people started to treat it as dirty word rather than being proud of it but that may just be me Rob. On 16 Nov 2005, at 10:25, Robert Taylor wrote: That was true though - he hadn't - Play isn't a techno record is it? -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2005 10:24 To: Robert Taylor Cc: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: Re: (313) Genres He made a defo move from calling his stuff Techno to Electronica in the 90's, saying in many interviews that he hasn't made a Techno record for a long time... On 16 Nov 2005, at 10:09, Robert Taylor wrote: When did Moby do that? -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2005 10:05 To: 313 Mailinglist List; Klaas-Jan Jongsma Subject: Re: (313) Genres The point I was trying to make badly is people started calling their music something else because they believed calling it Techno we damage their sales - Moby for example... On 15-nov-2005, at 21:13, Martin Dust wrote: It's really Ironica, we daren't call it techno, that's what that is :) Of course not! I am such a techno-purist that i can't call anything techno because it ain't pure! :) - Original Message - From: Jari Tolkkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 7:32 PM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: (313) Genres The one really awful genre is electronica. Mostly seen on US record stores. What the hell is that? And what is it with this scouse house seen on juno? Sheesh... # # # ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # # # ## ## # ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ## # ## ### ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ### ##
RE: (313) Genres
How does it make you a bottler? No one listens to just techno oh, I dunno. maybe I'm secretly ashamed or something! or maybe I'm just talking rubbish again. one things for sure, it is a word that for many means one thing, and for the minority means another. or something. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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I personally see it as a very wide spectrum but the gripe I have is people started to treat it as dirty word rather than being proud of it but that may just be me Rob. i see it as a wide spectrum too. f**k to me, at least half these new genres around are just techno records to me. but, there's no denying, it's been a dirty word since the early 90's really. when I was listening to the detroit techno of the time, the beautiful techno that I really liked, no one else called it techno. techno was what peeps played at raves, like hardcore. not the stuff i liked. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Genres
On 16 Nov 2005, at 10:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How does it make you a bottler? No one listens to just techno oh, I dunno. maybe I'm secretly ashamed or something! or maybe I'm just talking rubbish again. one things for sure, it is a word that for many means one thing, and for the minority means another. You're not wrong there Alex, for people who don't know - it's always Techno, Techno, Techno, sadly. And on the other side of the coin I know lots of Heads that hate the crusty/squat/loopy techno and hold the belief that it's done a great deal of damage. I guess you can't really win!
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And on the other side of the coin I know lots of Heads that hate the crusty/squat/loopy techno now you see, I wouldn't even use that word in the same sentence as the other things you mention! but then, what else to describe it as - thats what people think techno is. but anyway, this is a battle lost 15 years ago. no point me crying over it now. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) Genres
I don't think it is tricky - techno is just a subgenre of electronic music - Play is certainly not techno and I can't see how anyone could interpret it as so. Are you suggesting that all electronic music is techno? That would make house, garage and drum n bass techno too -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2005 10:30 To: Robert Taylor Cc: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: Re: (313) Genres It's a tricky one Rob because it depends on how you really define Techno, I personally see it as a very wide spectrum but the gripe I have is people started to treat it as dirty word rather than being proud of it but that may just be me Rob. On 16 Nov 2005, at 10:25, Robert Taylor wrote: That was true though - he hadn't - Play isn't a techno record is it? -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2005 10:24 To: Robert Taylor Cc: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: Re: (313) Genres He made a defo move from calling his stuff Techno to Electronica in the 90's, saying in many interviews that he hasn't made a Techno record for a long time... On 16 Nov 2005, at 10:09, Robert Taylor wrote: When did Moby do that? -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2005 10:05 To: 313 Mailinglist List; Klaas-Jan Jongsma Subject: Re: (313) Genres The point I was trying to make badly is people started calling their music something else because they believed calling it Techno we damage their sales - Moby for example... On 15-nov-2005, at 21:13, Martin Dust wrote: It's really Ironica, we daren't call it techno, that's what that is :) Of course not! I am such a techno-purist that i can't call anything techno because it ain't pure! :) - Original Message - From: Jari Tolkkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 7:32 PM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: (313) Genres The one really awful genre is electronica. Mostly seen on US record stores. What the hell is that? And what is it with this scouse house seen on juno? Sheesh... # # # ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # # # ## ## # ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ## # ## ### ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ### ## # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
(313) Turn the volume down....
UK CLUBS TO TURN IT DOWN It's not everyday that DJs are told to turn the music down, especially not by politicians but now 365Mag can reveal that has just happened. The UK government is set to reduce the level of noise in British clubs by up to 5% from April 2006 with a law that is intended to protect the hearing of those in the music industry. When the new levels are passed by parliament in the Spring, employers in clubs and venues will be expected to protect their staffs hearing with a reduction in volume and a decrease in time spent exposed to excessive noise. Lawrence Waterman, President of the Institution of Occupational Safety and Health (IOSH) says: We need to help employs who work in the music industry to understand the risks of noise exposure. According to UK Heath and Safety statistics, around 170,000 people suffer from work related tinnitus, deafness or other ear-related problems. DJs who suffer from damaged hearing are Rocky from X-press 2 fame, Laurent Garnier and Tall Paul, who consulted a specialist in the late 90s, only to be told he had done irreparable damage to his hearing. This law raises the question of the use of ear filters once again. DJs such as Roger Sanchez, Jeff Mills, Laurent Garnier, Sander Kleinenberg and Erick Morillo all use custom-built earplugs to protect the ears from those dangerous high frequencies coming out of the monitors. Maybe the familiar ringing in the ears the next morning after a club-night could about to become a thing of the past for those on the dancefloor too after purchasing these plugs, or is that 'whistling' sound simply an integral part of a good night out?
Re: (313) Genres
On 16 Nov 2005, at 10:42, Robert Taylor wrote: I don't think it is tricky - techno is just a subgenre of electronic music - Play is certainly not techno and I can't see how anyone could interpret it as so. Play is not a techno record for sure, but I'm not really talking about that record specifically, it was way before that release Rob that he made the switch - let me have a dig around for some titles to see if I can make my point any clearer...I do remember that it was his G.O.D phase and it had a really bright cover Are you suggesting that all electronic music is techno? That would make house, garage and drum n bass techno too No I'm not suggesting that at all, I'm just saying that Techno is a lot wider and contains many different flavours, personally I'd never pin it down to a rigid set of values like drum patterns etc but I can see why people do and feel the need to, check out the argument on Discogs about What Electro is for an example of where I don't want to go with this :) I realise it's a pretty hard position to defend... m -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2005 10:30 To: Robert Taylor Cc: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: Re: (313) Genres It's a tricky one Rob because it depends on how you really define Techno, I personally see it as a very wide spectrum but the gripe I have is people started to treat it as dirty word rather than being proud of it but that may just be me Rob. On 16 Nov 2005, at 10:25, Robert Taylor wrote: That was true though - he hadn't - Play isn't a techno record is it? -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2005 10:24 To: Robert Taylor Cc: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: Re: (313) Genres He made a defo move from calling his stuff Techno to Electronica in the 90's, saying in many interviews that he hasn't made a Techno record for a long time... On 16 Nov 2005, at 10:09, Robert Taylor wrote: When did Moby do that? -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2005 10:05 To: 313 Mailinglist List; Klaas-Jan Jongsma Subject: Re: (313) Genres The point I was trying to make badly is people started calling their music something else because they believed calling it Techno we damage their sales - Moby for example... On 15-nov-2005, at 21:13, Martin Dust wrote: It's really Ironica, we daren't call it techno, that's what that is :) Of course not! I am such a techno-purist that i can't call anything techno because it ain't pure! :) - Original Message - From: Jari Tolkkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 7:32 PM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: (313) Genres The one really awful genre is electronica. Mostly seen on US record stores. What the hell is that? And what is it with this scouse house seen on juno? Sheesh... # # # ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # # # ## # # # ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # # # ## ## # ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ## # ## ### ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files
Re: (313) Turn the volume down....
Good, it's about time. I've been to too many clubs where I've had to leave because I was literally in pain from the sound levels (a particularly dynamite Dave Clarke set was once ruined by this. To be fair I think the staff did keep turning it down but slowly but surely the volume levels crept back up...) or after attending my hearing has been severely limited for not far off the whole of the following week. Earplugs are always a potential but it can be difficult practically as I find they have to be put in / taken out very often (for talking to people, ordering from the bar etc). The best clubnights I've been to have been where the sound is down reasonably low (to the point where you don't need to raise your voice much to carry a conversation) but has exceptional clarity (basically bordering on having your home system up loud but spread over the area of the dance floor) as opposed to the systems that are so loud that there is distortion or complete loss of of mid range frequencies ('do you know what song this is?' 'no idea, all I'm hearing is a bass thump and hi hats, could be anything'. As an aside, I really hope this applys to bars as well. Too often I've been in a bar at the magical time whereby it goes from being a bar with music playing in the background at a comfortable level to a bar/mini-club with music playing at club levels. Which necessitates a hasty exit otherwise you can't actually talk to the people you're with. Or maybe I'm just getting old :) Kev UK CLUBS TO TURN IT DOWN It's not everyday that DJs are told to turn the music down, especially not by politicians but now 365Mag can reveal that has just happened. The UK government is set to reduce the level of noise in British clubs by up to 5% from April 2006 with a law that is intended to protect the hearing of those in the music industry. When the new levels are passed by parliament in the Spring, employers in clubs and venues will be expected to protect their staffs hearing with a reduction in volume and a decrease in time spent exposed to excessive noise. Lawrence Waterman, President of the Institution of Occupational Safety and Health (IOSH) says: We need to help employs who work in the music industry to understand the risks of noise exposure. According to UK Heath and Safety statistics, around 170,000 people suffer from work related tinnitus, deafness or other ear-related problems. DJs who suffer from damaged hearing are Rocky from X-press 2 fame, Laurent Garnier and Tall Paul, who consulted a specialist in the late 90s, only to be told he had done irreparable damage to his hearing. This law raises the question of the use of ear filters once again. DJs such as Roger Sanchez, Jeff Mills, Laurent Garnier, Sander Kleinenberg and Erick Morillo all use custom-built earplugs to protect the ears from those dangerous high frequencies coming out of the monitors. Maybe the familiar ringing in the ears the next morning after a club-night could about to become a thing of the past for those on the dancefloor too after purchasing these plugs, or is that 'whistling' sound simply an integral part of a good night out?
Re: (313) Genres
On 16 Nov 2005, at 10:42, Robert Taylor wrote: I don't think it is tricky - techno is just a subgenre of electronic music - Play is certainly not techno and I can't see how anyone could interpret it as so. The album I'm talking about was called Everything is Wrong
Re: (313) Genres
oh, I dunno. maybe I'm secretly ashamed or something! or maybe I'm just talking rubbish again. one things for sure, it is a word that for many means one thing, and for the minority means another. i must admit that when i discuss the music my label releases to a non-electronic music listener i refrain from using the word techno, at least straight away since it does carry all sorts of negative connotations. i usually just say we release electronic music. fab.
Re: (313) Ambient graphics?
well, i hope there aren't any photos embedded in the nymphomatriarch recordings. (venetian snares and hecate having sex and making breakcore out of the noises they made) On Nov 16, 2005, at 3:53, Martin Dust wrote: Not sure if 313 has seen this, but it looks like fun... http://www.bastwood.com/aphex.php -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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fab. wrote on Wed, 16 Nov 2005 about following: a while back everyone on soulseek was raving on about Latvian Banjo Trance but I'm more into Minimal Gabber Ambient i'm more into Minimal slam tech jazz-funk and Doom booty psy doo-wop ; these are like really underground stuff, i really don't know who's doin 'em since this stuff is only released on whitelabels limited to less than 10 copies! hard to get, really expensive. but some serious s**t!! ps. i heard the rock dudes around the corner to talk about depressive tolkien unblack stoner rock, which should be really hot next week in those circles! :D pps. real stuff; what on earth is reggaeton, sublow, grime.. sakke
Re: (313) Turn the volume down....
I swear, though I have no real scientific evidence or anything other than my word to give you, that you can understand people better in a loud concert (110-120db) when you DO have earplugs in, AND it significantly increases the fidelity of the sound. Kev wrote: Earplugs are always a potential but it can be difficult practically as I find they have to be put in / taken out very often (for talking to people, ordering from the bar etc).
Re: (313) Turn the volume down....
Perhaps I'm just using rubbish ones? I have generic 3M 'orange' ones. Not more expensive fitted or special purpose plugs. I might have to branch out :) Kev I swear, though I have no real scientific evidence or anything other than my word to give you, that you can understand people better in a loud concert (110-120db) when you DO have earplugs in, AND it significantly increases the fidelity of the sound. Kev wrote: Earplugs are always a potential but it can be difficult practically as I find they have to be put in / taken out very often (for talking to people, ordering from the bar etc).
Re: (313) Turn the volume down....
I 2nd this thought. I have a pair or ear plugs that are given to the GM employes and the ear plugs cut out the hi-end frequencies that are harmful to the ear, 12-16k range. I like them as it does make talking to people a lot easer in a loud environment. On Nov 16, 2005, at 9:00 AM, Thorin Teague wrote: I swear, though I have no real scientific evidence or anything other than my word to give you, that you can understand people better in a loud concert (110-120db) when you DO have earplugs in, AND it significantly increases the fidelity of the sound. Kev wrote: Earplugs are always a potential but it can be difficult practically as I find they have to be put in / taken out very often (for talking to people, ordering from the bar etc).
RE: (313) Turn the volume down....
I find it much easier to hear people with ear plugs in when in a club. The main trouble I find is talking to people, as they make my own voice sound funny and quite boomy to myself. I end up talking too quietly and people are always telling me to speak up! I also get loads of people asking why I'm wearing ear plugs and do I not like the music etc. They aren't the most socially accepted thing to wear in a club it appears!! I 2nd this thought. I have a pair or ear plugs that are given to the GM employes and the ear plugs cut out the hi-end frequencies that are harmful to the ear, 12-16k range. I like them as it does make talking to people a lot easer in a loud environment. On Nov 16, 2005, at 9:00 AM, Thorin Teague wrote: I swear, though I have no real scientific evidence or anything other than my word to give you, that you can understand people better in a loud concert (110-120db) when you DO have earplugs in, AND it significantly increases the fidelity of the sound. Kev wrote: Earplugs are always a potential but it can be difficult practically as I find they have to be put in / taken out very often (for talking to people, ordering from the bar etc).
(313) Madonna..
Turns the Koko club in Camden into a throbing houseclub: http://www.nme.com/news/madonna/21519 I quite like her new tune...it's very80's Martijn
RE: (313) Turn the volume down....
ear plugs I find a pair of FAG BUTTS work as ear plugs. that should get the americans talking ooh, that alex is as bent as a nine bob note _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Madonna..
I quite like her new tune...it's very80's 'jacques le cont' produced her new lp I think. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) mix WNUR chicago - The Music Got Me (w/ Guest DJ Zachary Lubin, Chicago)
Clinically Inclined 21 Oct 2005:The Music Got Me (w/ Guest DJ Zachary Lubin, Chicago) Fridays 9:30pm - 12:30am, 89.3 FM WNUR Chicago Download from http://SonicSunset.com Part 1 sampled funk from repeat and synth dance from visual start the set off, and dreamy new psychedelia from boards of canada sets the ambient transition in motion. the spell's broken by peel seamus, and total science lays down heavy broken beat for the floor. Part 2 we're excited to welcome zachary lubin back to WNUR for the first time since his debut record on 6277/Axis. he puts down an electic set of techno with a bit of early 90s house and dance thrown in for maximum harmonic efficiency. Direct link to this show: http://www.sonicsunset.com/more.php?id=119_0_1_0_M Part 1 Dave Siska repeat - drifting sounds of wikiki - repeats (a13) visual - the music got me [sure shot mix instrumental] (unidisc) boards of canada - chromakey dreamcoat - campfire headphase (warp/music70) theorem - os (plus 8) insync vs mysteron - these 4 walls (tenth planet) arctic hospital - rotating water - infirm attentive (narita) loscil - hydrogen - triplepoint (kranky) rhythim is rhythim - kao-tic harmony (transmat) peel seamus - chatsubo - audience ep (delsin) todd terry - logan's crossing (tnt) as one vs. ian o'brien - contours [ian o'brien rmx] (ubiquity) total science - sugar sweet [original mix] (head2toe) kemetic just presents just one - we will meet again - ui ep (rush hour) deepchord - electromagnetic dowsing [mike huckaby rmx] (synth) Part 2 Zachary Lubin (6277/Axis) dj skull aka ron maney - bring it home (relief) iz diz - sindicate (classic) andres - express (mahogani) grain - untitled (fatcat) gemini - snowdrop (peacefrog) christian morgenstern - untitled (kanzleramt) callisto- junkle II - paradigm ep (guidance) armand van helden - break da 80s (strictly rhythm) fierce ruling diva - you gotta believe [moby remix] (react) cj bolland - on line - the analogue theater (internal) deetron - i believe (music man) mark broom - to be continued (pure plastic) psychic warriors ov gaia - kraak [plastikman rmx] (kk traxx) astral pilot - electro acupuncture [claude young rmx] (harthouse) anthony 'shake' shakir - no. 3 malfunctioning - systemic advances (gigolo) blue boy - funky friday (guidance) perception - mirage (underground resistance) armando - so in love with you (trax) the fastman - in the mix [remix] blue boy - so lonely (guidance) zachary lubin - scopes (engineer) funk d'void - all that matters (soma) arovane - r:elet - atol scrap (din) Audio archives at http://SonicSunset.com --- Clinically Inclined is mixed live on air, 89.3 FM in Chicago every Friday night. Are you a global listener? Put yourself on our new map! http://frappr.com/sonicsunset
RE: (313) Turn the volume down....
Alex, That should work pretty well as long as they don't like the music and move around very much... ;) If you ever come to Detroit, you can go The Works and test this theory out. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/16/2005 09:23 AM To 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject RE: (313) Turn the volume down ear plugs I find a pair of FAG BUTTS work as ear plugs. that should get the americans talking ooh, that alex is as bent as a nine bob note _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) Turn the volume down....
But being a tight poor boy from Manchester, you have to BUM them off a mate -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2005 14:23 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Turn the volume down ear plugs I find a pair of FAG BUTTS work as ear plugs. that should get the americans talking ooh, that alex is as bent as a nine bob note _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Turn the volume down....
That should work pretty well as long as they don't like the music and move around very much... ;) hehhehheh. But being a tight poor boy from Manchester, you have to BUM them off a mate thats right folks, bumming fags is what I'm all about. can I do this at the works?? p.s. detroit. still waiting to get the old 1 dollar flight tip off greg earle, 313's own cheap flight correspondant. can't see it happening. maybe ACME might sponsor me. dream on. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Madonna..
On Wed, November 16, 2005 8:24 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: 'jacques le cont' produced her new lp I think. as in les rythmes digitales? interesting -- /* Halley */ (Halley's comment.) matt kane's brain podcast | http://www.hydrogenproject.com | netradio | on-the-air [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
Re: (313) Madonna..
'jacques le cont' produced her new lp I think. as in les rythmes digitales? interesting yeah, that one Matt! _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) Madonna..
glad to see the same people here as when i left : ) howdy partners, the 154 is back ! ghehehe groet, Jochem, Servicedesk ICT -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 16 november 2005 15:44 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Madonna.. 'jacques le cont' produced her new lp I think. as in les rythmes digitales? interesting yeah, that one Matt! _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
Re: (313) Madonna..
nothing to do with the abba sample then ;) Turns the Koko club in Camden into a throbing houseclub: http://www.nme.com/news/madonna/21519 I quite like her new tune...it's very80's Martijn www.midnightbeats.de www.kube72.com www.detroitimpression.com
RE: (313) Madonna..
Nah, didn't like Abba that much...it's nice to see that she still comes up with something new to keep her into the spotlights... -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Ian Cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag 16 november 2005 15:51 Aan: Blaauw, Martijn de CC: 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: Re: (313) Madonna.. nothing to do with the abba sample then ;) Turns the Koko club in Camden into a throbing houseclub: http://www.nme.com/news/madonna/21519 I quite like her new tune...it's very80's Martijn www.midnightbeats.de www.kube72.com www.detroitimpression.com
Re: (313) Madonna..
The album is full of music ear worms and is very European...not as good as Ray Of Light - but I'm no fan to start with... On 16 Nov 2005, at 14:50, Ian Cheshire wrote: nothing to do with the abba sample then ;) Turns the Koko club in Camden into a throbing houseclub: http://www.nme.com/news/madonna/21519 I quite like her new tune...it's very80's Martijn www.midnightbeats.de www.kube72.com www.detroitimpression.com
RE: (313) Madonna..
glad to see the same people here as when i left : ) howdy partners, the 154 is back ! OH BOY! HOLA 154! GOT ANY JOKES??? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) Konono in Pittsburgh Last Night [O/T]
Playing to a sold out audience, they rocked it. I don't have any idea what they were singing, but I liked every word. I suggest that if they come to your town you should see them. Here are their remaining shows. 16/11 NEW YORK, NY JOE'S PUB 17/11 NEW YORK, NY S.O.B'S 18/11 SOMERVILLE, MA SOMERVILLE THEATER 20/11 PHILADELPHIA, PA WORLD LIVE CAFE 22/11 WASHINGTON, DC KENNEDY CENTER Chris
RE: (313) her seele
marsel send me this one a few days ago... excuseer, excuseer, dames en heren http://www.break.com/articles/holditin.html groet, Jochem, Servicedesk ICT -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 16 november 2005 15:56 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Madonna.. glad to see the same people here as when i left : ) howdy partners, the 154 is back ! OH BOY! HOLA 154! GOT ANY JOKES??? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
Re: (313) Madonna..
excuse me? ripping off abba is something new? this track is not only using a VERY catchy loop but it also sounds like madonna is reinterpreting madonna...same old, same old btw, the best albums are Erotica and Bedtime Stories, beside MAdonna and Like a Virgin - Original Message - From: Blaauw, Martijn de [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 3:53 PM Subject: RE: (313) Madonna.. Nah, didn't like Abba that much...it's nice to see that she still comes up with something new to keep her into the spotlights...
RE: (313) Madonna..
i once bought a playboy which featured some pics of her. She's actually quite ... hairy... then again, i also bought the jerney kaagman issue im a regular fanboy gonna be looking for them when i get home woo! groet, Jochem, Servicedesk ICT -Original Message- From: fab. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 16 november 2005 16:01 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Madonna.. excuse me? ripping off abba is something new? this track is not only using a VERY catchy loop but it also sounds like madonna is reinterpreting madonna...same old, same old btw, the best albums are Erotica and Bedtime Stories, beside MAdonna and Like a Virgin - Original Message - From: Blaauw, Martijn de [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 3:53 PM Subject: RE: (313) Madonna.. Nah, didn't like Abba that much...it's nice to see that she still comes up with something new to keep her into the spotlights... The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
RE: (313) Madonna..
Madonna produced by Jacques-Lu-Cont! Radical! (Ok, you're right. It's not right that I'm dissing it and I've not even heard it. I'll listen to it, then *diss* it :) Have we really come to talking about this people?!? K
RE: (313) Madonna..
did you get the detroit techno issue? Peteri wrote: i once bought a playboy which featured some pics of her. She's actually quite ... hairy... then again, i also bought the jerney kaagman issue im a regular fanboy gonna be looking for them when i get home woo! groet, Jochem, Servicedesk ICT -Original Message- From: fab. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 16 november 2005 16:01 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Madonna.. excuse me? ripping off abba is something new? this track is not only using a VERY catchy loop but it also sounds like madonna is reinterpreting madonna...same old, same old btw, the best albums are Erotica and Bedtime Stories, beside MAdonna and Like a Virgin - Original Message - From: Blaauw, Martijn de [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 3:53 PM Subject: RE: (313) Madonna.. Nah, didn't like Abba that much...it's nice to see that she still comes up with something new to keep her into the spotlights... The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
RE: (313) Madonna..
Have we really come to talking about this people?!? looks like it. I never started it I'd like to add. altho I did provide the FACTS. I've tried all manner of topics today: gay dwarves as ear plugs rhythm is rhythm secret hidden message in music from captain birdseye fish-fingers none of them goers *i give up* hahah. alex p.s. bet it was this one that drew the 154 out of his bunker --- gay dwarves as ear plugs _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) Madonna..
Weeelll, Madonna is from Bay City, which is near(ish) Detroit - I think she lived there for a while too -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2005 15:13 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Madonna.. Madonna produced by Jacques-Lu-Cont! Radical! (Ok, you're right. It's not right that I'm dissing it and I've not even heard it. I'll listen to it, then *diss* it :) Have we really come to talking about this people?!? K # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Madonna..
Errr, there was a big to do on the list about her 2001 tour when they first collaborated. On Wed, November 16, 2005 9:12 am, Odeluga, Ken said: Madonna produced by Jacques-Lu-Cont! Radical! (Ok, you're right. It's not right that I'm dissing it and I've not even heard it. I'll listen to it, then *diss* it :) Have we really come to talking about this people?!? -- /* Halley */ (Halley's comment.) matt kane's brain podcast | http://www.hydrogenproject.com | netradio | on-the-air [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk -- /* Halley */ (Halley's comment.) matt kane's brain podcast | http://www.hydrogenproject.com | netradio | on-the-air [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk -- /* Halley */ (Halley's comment.) matt kane's brain podcast | http://www.hydrogenproject.com | netradio | on-the-air [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
Re: (313) her seele
hahahahahaha...perfekt! great link! does that guy still work as reporter for that show, or was he fired?! c* Peteri, Jochem wrote: marsel send me this one a few days ago... excuseer, excuseer, dames en heren http://www.break.com/articles/holditin.html groet, Jochem, Servicedesk ICT -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 16 november 2005 15:56 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Madonna.. glad to see the same people here as when i left : ) howdy partners, the 154 is back ! OH BOY! HOLA 154! GOT ANY JOKES??? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
RE: (313) Madonna..
yup folks, its happening again : ) and while mr seamus is saving lives at rushhour(check the website for some disaster-tourism) id like to point out that im really enjoying mr gottschings latest release die mulde, run out and get that cd because its classic wheater is pretty bad over here, rain and storm on its way, and were heading for 18.00 traffic is slow, but steadily jams are forming around the building good to be back folks, really.. Jochem, Servicedesk ICT -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 16 november 2005 16:21 To: Odeluga, Ken; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Madonna.. Weeelll, Madonna is from Bay City, which is near(ish) Detroit - I think she lived there for a while too -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2005 15:13 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Madonna.. Madonna produced by Jacques-Lu-Cont! Radical! (Ok, you're right. It's not right that I'm dissing it and I've not even heard it. I'll listen to it, then *diss* it :) Have we really come to talking about this people?!? K # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
(313) EMI Anti-Piracy Statement /Electric Institute
Alex Bond wrote: I've tried all manner of topics today: gay dwarves as ear plugs rhythm is rhythm secret hidden message in music from captain birdseye fish-fingers none of them goers *i give up* hahah.today OK try this Alex: 'The Electric Institute' (a case of 'just buy it' imho) is the first EMI CD I've bought for over a decade. So this anti-piracy statement on the inset of the jewel case is new to me: This recording and artwork are protected by copyright law. Using Internet services to distribute copyrighted music, giving away illegal copies of discs or lending discs to others for them to copy is illegal and does not support those involved in making this piece of music - especially the artist. By carrying out any of these actions it has the same effect as stealing music... etc. Now, I personally try to be scrupulous about music as I'm sincerely passionate about all music but especially 'advanced' electronic music. This means I've never illegally downloaded music. However I have received music from mates which might have been acquired in that way and I've sometimes made copies of CDs (or digitised vinyl) for friends. This is someone who actually *wants* to safeguard the income of musicians and the music biz (yeah all of it, including Madonna!) - But in EMI's view, *I'm* a crook too, as would many millions of people like me be as well (we do exist!) It makes me think that maybe EMI's view is extreme or unreasonable, just plain unrealistic, maybe just plain pointless. What do other people think? Alex, I'd particularly like to know your view, given that you were co-executive producer? I bet you won't say if you agree with EMI or not ;-) Ken
RE: (313) Madonna../Manuel Gottsching
id like to point out that im really enjoying mr gottschings latest release die mulde eh?! missed that one, you got a link?? think theres some new prins thomas thing out on bear called gottsching - dunno what its like, might be alright. him and lindstrom have re-done e2e4 as well apparently _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Madonna..
ps Madonna... I went to a concert by her in 1987, at the age of 13 in Rotterdam
RE: (313) Madonna..
and look what happened to you mr server-saver groet, Jochem, Servicedesk ICT -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 16 november 2005 16:38 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Madonna.. ps Madonna... I went to a concert by her in 1987, at the age of 13 in Rotterdam The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
Re: (313) EMI Anti-Piracy Statement /Electric Institute
This recording and artwork are protected by copyright law. Using Internet services to distribute copyrighted music, giving away illegal copies of discs or lending discs to others for them to copy is illegal and does not support those involved in making this piece of music - especially the artist. By carrying out any of these actions it has the same effect as stealing music... etc. Now, I personally try to be scrupulous about music as I'm sincerely passionate about all music but especially 'advanced' electronic music. This means I've never illegally downloaded music. However I have received music from mates which might have been acquired in that way and I've sometimes made copies of CDs (or digitised vinyl) for friends. What do other people think? Alex, I'd particularly like to know your view, given that you were co-executive producer? Hi Ken. Well, thats a general statement that emi put on all their releases. Whether I agree or dis-agree is pretty irrelevant I suppose as it has to go on there! But its no different to the home-taping statement of many moons ago? I mean, they're not actually saying anything thats wrong on there, what they're saying is correct of course - but thats always been the record company line - even when internet piracy wasn't around, there was always statements of a similar ilk - e.g. public performance statement, or home taping statement. do you see what I mean? i.e. its a bit of a nothing/general statement? Alex p.s. thank you very much for buying it, your support is appreciated. p.p.s. no one ever called me a co-executive before. heh. doubt they'll ever do it again either! _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) Ashra vs klaus nomi
ok, this is weird gottsching is also a producer for films, and was involved as a producer with the nomi song klaus nomi.. why is it that for years its been totally quite about him and all of a sudden the intergalactic gay version of Bassie from Adriaan returns popping up in a conversation at least once a day why? is it me? strange groet, Jochem, Servicedesk ICT The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
RE: (313) Madonna../Manuel Gottsching
http://www.ashra.com/disco/1a51mu.htm somehow reminds me of tales of the unexpected of dave angel too, but without a kickdrum weird but good groet, Jochem, Servicedesk ICT -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 16 november 2005 16:37 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Madonna../Manuel Gottsching id like to point out that im really enjoying mr gottschings latest release die mulde eh?! missed that one, you got a link?? think theres some new prins thomas thing out on bear called gottsching - dunno what its like, might be alright. him and lindstrom have re-done e2e4 as well apparently _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
Re: (313) Genres
I'm all into acoustitronica? these days. MEK
Re: (313) Genres
Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/16/2005 04:39:11 AM: And on the other side of the coin I know lots of Heads that hate the crusty/squat/loopy techno and hold the belief that it's done a great deal of damage. well, it certainly has done a great deal of damage to their dress sense. ;) MEK
Re: (313) EMI Anti-Piracy Statement /Electric Institute
That, not only is this horse dead, but so is bringing up the fact that this horse is dead. Odeluga, Ken wrote: What do other people think?
Re: (313) Konono in Pittsburgh Last Night [O/T]
On Wed, November 16, 2005 2:59 pm, Chris O'Connor wrote: Playing to a sold out audience, they rocked it. I don't have any idea what they were singing, but I liked every word. I suggest that if they come to your town you should see them. seriously, this was the most techno thing ive seen in a long long time. those doods were so awesome. i picked up their CD, it sounds really nice and lo-fi and nasty, just how i like it! ill be rocking it in the ipod today for sure. definitely go check them out if you have the chance. tom
RE: (313) Madonna..
On Wed, November 16, 2005 3:12 pm, Odeluga, Ken wrote: Madonna produced by Jacques-Lu-Cont! Radical! (Ok, you're right. It's not right that I'm dissing it and I've not even heard it. I'll listen to it, then *diss* it :) Have we really come to talking about this people?!? how is it possible to not love madonna?!?!? tom
(313) cold days
with these cold days, i thought it's good to share a gentle warm, yet unmastered and yet untitled track of an upcoming delsin release http://incoming.delsin.org/52dsr-quinn-b1.mp3
Re: (313) cold days
ps. the track is by Quinn, a 24 years new one from Holland - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:25 PM Subject: (313) cold days with these cold days, i thought it's good to share a gentle warm, yet unmastered and yet untitled track of an upcoming delsin release http://incoming.delsin.org/52dsr-quinn-b1.mp3
RE: (313) Madonna..
i can totally picture you dancing in (stylishly) ripped t-shirt and acidwash jeans, singing along to holiday...not much changed since then i hope -Original Message- From: Peteri, Jochem [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 16, 2005 10:39 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Madonna.. and look what happened to you mr server-saver groet, Jochem, Servicedesk ICT -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 16 november 2005 16:38 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Madonna.. ps Madonna... I went to a concert by her in 1987, at the age of 13 in Rotterdam The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
RE: (313) Madonna..
I dunno, something to do with the fact that she is the worst kind of culture vulture - just read that she wants to 'do' krumping after watching the Dave LaChappelle doc on it - he refused, so she recruited one of the dancers. She exploits subcultures relentlessly -chewing them up and spitting them out like a black scourge - each time she does it, she looks more tired and desperate to appear with it and relevant. You don't do this by leaping on every bandwagon that comes your way my dear, you have to be innovative and original yourself. That's why I have no love for her - she's a ruthless explotative hasbeen -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2005 16:22 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Madonna.. how is it possible to not love madonna?!?!? tom # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Madonna..
ps Madonna... I went to a concert by her in 1987, at the age of 13 in Rotterdam i was only 13 when i went to my first 154 concert.. i also have his playboy issue..
RE: (313) Madonna..
and im still wearing your underwear groet, Jochem, Servicedesk ICT -Original Message- From: Kelly, Stephen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 16 november 2005 17:37 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 313 Subject: RE: (313) Madonna.. ps Madonna... I went to a concert by her in 1987, at the age of 13 in Rotterdam i was only 13 when i went to my first 154 concert.. i also have his playboy issue.. The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
RE: (313) Madonna..
only real change is that i grew larger breasts than genesis p orridge : ) and one of my goldfish died ralf florian is still going strong though thank god groet, Jochem, Servicedesk ICT -Original Message- From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 16 november 2005 17:32 To: Peteri, Jochem; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Madonna.. i can totally picture you dancing in (stylishly) ripped t-shirt and acidwash jeans, singing along to holiday...not much changed since then i hope -Original Message- From: Peteri, Jochem [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 16, 2005 10:39 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Madonna.. and look what happened to you mr server-saver groet, Jochem, Servicedesk ICT -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 16 november 2005 16:38 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Madonna.. ps Madonna... I went to a concert by her in 1987, at the age of 13 in Rotterdam The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail. The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
RE: (313) Madonna..
On Wed, November 16, 2005 4:32 pm, Robert Taylor wrote: I dunno, something to do with the fact that she is the worst kind of culture vulture - just read that she wants to 'do' krumping after watching the Dave LaChappelle doc on it - he refused, so she recruited one of the dancers. She exploits subcultures relentlessly -chewing them up and spitting them out like a black scourge - each time she does it, she looks more tired and desperate to appear with it and relevant. You don't do this by leaping on every bandwagon that comes your way my dear, you have to be innovative and original yourself. That's why I have no love for her - she's a ruthless explotative hasbeen wow, and ive been accused of being a hater before! i just dont see it that way. for the most part, she does like to take things from other subcultures, this is true. but she does it very respectfully i think. she pays all these dance music producers very well and gives them massive exposure they wouldnt otherwise receive, etc. she doesnt ask that people change their stuff up to make it popular, she just makes these things okay in popular culture by doing them. whats wrong with that? if only other people with that kind of cultural power used that power to get money and props for musicians and people who deserve it! i guess bjork does to a much smaller degree, and maybe radiohead as well. but the list is very short and none of them are as popular as madonna tom
Re: (313) Turn the volume down....
I have to wear plugs at shows, and most of the weekend of the Detroit festival, because I've worked at and attended so many shows that I get tinnitus. I still have most of my hearing, but I've lost most of it above 14,000 hz. It would be great if everyone invested in custom-fitted musician's plugs, but these are the next best thing: http://store.yahoo.com/earplugstore/mackshearplugs.html Cigarette Filters are NOT an alternative. If you just have the foam plugs -- they're highly effective at preserving your hearing, but don't sound so good. But stick with it -- your hearing is a dialog between your ears and your brains, and if you keep the plugs in, your ears adjust, and even though high frequencies are attenuated much more than low, you can still hear the music. Often you can hear the music better. That continuous high frequency hash of people shouting at each other and the high frequency sound bouncing around the club makes it difficult to hear anything. I don't really know what to thing about the sound pressure levels in clubs. People want loud systems, but what passes for loud these days is only safe for a hour's exposure a couple of times a month, not seven or eight continuous hours. When I run sound, I don't run the system as loud as it can go, both because it sounds better, and because people don't really notice the difference between 105 dB and 120dB. If I back off the main level and turn up the subs a little so people still feel the bass, they seem happy enough even though the signals hitting their ear are half as loud in linear amplitude. The important thing to remember is that DJs and Musicians are like the Radiologist at the hospital -- their exposure is chronic, whereas a punter's exposure is intermittent, so please remember your protection. Also think about noise in other settings. I wear plugs on the subway in New York, and when I'm on long car rides or airplane flights, because prolonged exposure to levels above 80dB can damage your hearing as well. I find that attenutating the noise also has the effect of reducing my overall sense of fatigue. As important as music is to all the subscribers of this list, this is a very important topic. I'm worried that when today's club kids reach my age, they won't have much hearing left.
RE: (313) Madonna..
Sorry, was something I had to get off my chest - I loved her til Like A Prayer. But now she really gets on my wick. There's something about her that really grates. -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2005 16:42 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Madonna.. On Wed, November 16, 2005 4:32 pm, Robert Taylor wrote: I dunno, something to do with the fact that she is the worst kind of culture vulture - just read that she wants to 'do' krumping after watching the Dave LaChappelle doc on it - he refused, so she recruited one of the dancers. She exploits subcultures relentlessly -chewing them up and spitting them out like a black scourge - each time she does it, she looks more tired and desperate to appear with it and relevant. You don't do this by leaping on every bandwagon that comes your way my dear, you have to be innovative and original yourself. That's why I have no love for her - she's a ruthless explotative hasbeen wow, and ive been accused of being a hater before! i just dont see it that way. for the most part, she does like to take things from other subcultures, this is true. but she does it very respectfully i think. she pays all these dance music producers very well and gives them massive exposure they wouldnt otherwise receive, etc. she doesnt ask that people change their stuff up to make it popular, she just makes these things okay in popular culture by doing them. whats wrong with that? if only other people with that kind of cultural power used that power to get money and props for musicians and people who deserve it! i guess bjork does to a much smaller degree, and maybe radiohead as well. but the list is very short and none of them are as popular as madonna tom # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Madonna..
Plus - I would probably forgive her a lot if she actually sounded any good, but she really doesn't even if she hires a fantastic engineer/producer - you can't polish a turd -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor Sent: 16 November 2005 16:45 To: 'Thomas D. Cox, Jr.'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Madonna.. Sorry, was something I had to get off my chest - I loved her til Like A Prayer. But now she really gets on my wick. There's something about her that really grates. -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2005 16:42 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Madonna.. On Wed, November 16, 2005 4:32 pm, Robert Taylor wrote: I dunno, something to do with the fact that she is the worst kind of culture vulture - just read that she wants to 'do' krumping after watching the Dave LaChappelle doc on it - he refused, so she recruited one of the dancers. She exploits subcultures relentlessly -chewing them up and spitting them out like a black scourge - each time she does it, she looks more tired and desperate to appear with it and relevant. You don't do this by leaping on every bandwagon that comes your way my dear, you have to be innovative and original yourself. That's why I have no love for her - she's a ruthless explotative hasbeen wow, and ive been accused of being a hater before! i just dont see it that way. for the most part, she does like to take things from other subcultures, this is true. but she does it very respectfully i think. she pays all these dance music producers very well and gives them massive exposure they wouldnt otherwise receive, etc. she doesnt ask that people change their stuff up to make it popular, she just makes these things okay in popular culture by doing them. whats wrong with that? if only other people with that kind of cultural power used that power to get money and props for musicians and people who deserve it! i guess bjork does to a much smaller degree, and maybe radiohead as well. but the list is very short and none of them are as popular as madonna tom # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
(313) rushhour server
i just tried placing an order for 1,000 peel seamus records and now the site doesn't work.. i'll have to buy something different, i have no patience..
Re: (313) Madonna..
You would though, wouldn't you Rob? On 16 Nov 2005, at 16:45, Robert Taylor wrote: Sorry, was something I had to get off my chest - I loved her til Like A Prayer. But now she really gets on my wick. There's something about her that really grates. -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2005 16:42 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Madonna.. On Wed, November 16, 2005 4:32 pm, Robert Taylor wrote: I dunno, something to do with the fact that she is the worst kind of culture vulture - just read that she wants to 'do' krumping after watching the Dave LaChappelle doc on it - he refused, so she recruited one of the dancers. She exploits subcultures relentlessly -chewing them up and spitting them out like a black scourge - each time she does it, she looks more tired and desperate to appear with it and relevant. You don't do this by leaping on every bandwagon that comes your way my dear, you have to be innovative and original yourself. That's why I have no love for her - she's a ruthless explotative hasbeen wow, and ive been accused of being a hater before! i just dont see it that way. for the most part, she does like to take things from other subcultures, this is true. but she does it very respectfully i think. she pays all these dance music producers very well and gives them massive exposure they wouldnt otherwise receive, etc. she doesnt ask that people change their stuff up to make it popular, she just makes these things okay in popular culture by doing them. whats wrong with that? if only other people with that kind of cultural power used that power to get money and props for musicians and people who deserve it! i guess bjork does to a much smaller degree, and maybe radiohead as well. but the list is very short and none of them are as popular as madonna tom ### ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ### ##
RE: (313) rushhour server
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Re: (313) Madonna..
hahaha i stole a copy of that from the newspaper shop i worked at. my mates mum caught us with it. welcome back 154! :) robin... On 16 Nov 2005, at 15:04, Peteri, Jochem wrote: i once bought a playboy which featured some pics of her. She's actually quite ... hairy...
RE: (313) Madonna..
Not now! -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2005 16:51 To: Robert Taylor Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; Thomas D. Cox, Jr. Subject: Re: (313) Madonna.. You would though, wouldn't you Rob? On 16 Nov 2005, at 16:45, Robert Taylor wrote: Sorry, was something I had to get off my chest - I loved her til Like A Prayer. But now she really gets on my wick. There's something about her that really grates. -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2005 16:42 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Madonna.. On Wed, November 16, 2005 4:32 pm, Robert Taylor wrote: I dunno, something to do with the fact that she is the worst kind of culture vulture - just read that she wants to 'do' krumping after watching the Dave LaChappelle doc on it - he refused, so she recruited one of the dancers. She exploits subcultures relentlessly -chewing them up and spitting them out like a black scourge - each time she does it, she looks more tired and desperate to appear with it and relevant. You don't do this by leaping on every bandwagon that comes your way my dear, you have to be innovative and original yourself. That's why I have no love for her - she's a ruthless explotative hasbeen wow, and ive been accused of being a hater before! i just dont see it that way. for the most part, she does like to take things from other subcultures, this is true. but she does it very respectfully i think. she pays all these dance music producers very well and gives them massive exposure they wouldnt otherwise receive, etc. she doesnt ask that people change their stuff up to make it popular, she just makes these things okay in popular culture by doing them. whats wrong with that? if only other people with that kind of cultural power used that power to get money and props for musicians and people who deserve it! i guess bjork does to a much smaller degree, and maybe radiohead as well. but the list is very short and none of them are as popular as madonna tom ### ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ### ## # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Madonna..
You surely mean nice to see that she hired another producer that can manage to keep her in the spotlight don't you Martijn? Ever notice the songs that she does most of the writing and producing for generally are not the ones that become the hit singles? In fact, she's only been credited, I think, three times as the lone composer. Let's see Erotica was Shep Pettibone and Andre Betts Madonna was Jellybean Benitez and Reggie Lucas Music was Mirawais and William Orbit Ray of Light was William Orbit and a few other writers Like a Prayer - she only wrote the last song by herself - everything else is Patrick Leonard Like a Virgin was Stephen Bray - the biggest hits on that record she has no writing credits what-so-ever (Like a Virgin and Material Girl) - check out the ones she wrote by herself (Shoo-bee-doo and Pretender) - they're real stinkers True Blue was more of Bray and Leonard On You Can Dance she has no writing credit to Holiday but seemed to be learning something as she is credited with Everybody - everything else is Bray, Leonard again I'm Breathless was more of the same - Pettibone, Bray, Leonard Bedtime Stories - well, for starters you've got Björk and Nellie Hooper, then Babyface, The Isley Brothers, and Dallas Austin Evita - the fact that she had to have a singing coach this late in her career speaks volumes American Life was Mirawais again and now the new one is Les Rhythmes Digitales Left to her to her own devices and she would most likely have sunk like a stone I credit her for being pretty damn savvy when it comes to business and trend following she's not a trail blazer at all - it's everyone she surrounds herself with (stylists, producers, etc.) that are the trail blazers MEK Blaauw, Martijn de [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/16/2005 08:53:30 AM: Nah, didn't like Abba that much...it's nice to see that she still comes up with something new to keep her into the spotlights... -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Ian Cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag 16 november 2005 15:51 Aan: Blaauw, Martijn de CC: 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: Re: (313) Madonna.. nothing to do with the abba sample then ;) Turns the Koko club in Camden into a throbing houseclub: http://www.nme.com/news/madonna/21519 I quite like her new tune...it's very80's Martijn www.midnightbeats.de www.kube72.com www.detroitimpression.com
RE: (313) rushhour server
sorted, clone had boxes of unsold peel seamus records.. thanks for the tip 154 ;)
Re: (313) Ashra vs klaus nomi
On 16-nov-2005, at 17:03, Peteri, Jochem wrote: ok, this is weird gottsching is also a producer for films, and was involved as a producer with the nomi song klaus nomi.. why is it that for years its been totally quite about him and all of a sudden the intergalactic gay version of Bassie from Adriaan returns popping up in a conversation at least once a day Huh Klaus Nomi is back? Didn't the guy die from aids years ago?
RE: (313) Madonna..
Is that why Madonna claimed to have invented vogueing? I think Björk has exposed so many more people to a new way of listening to music The difference between Björk and Madonna can be seen first in the writing credits - Björk is the lone writer on the majority of her songs (see my previous post about Madonna) her concepts/music are light years ahead of Madonna's try as you might to compare them - the two just are on two totally different planes of existence MEK Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/16/2005 10:42:12 AM: On Wed, November 16, 2005 4:32 pm, Robert Taylor wrote: I dunno, something to do with the fact that she is the worst kind of culture vulture - just read that she wants to 'do' krumping after watching the Dave LaChappelle doc on it - he refused, so she recruited one of the dancers. She exploits subcultures relentlessly -chewing them up and spitting them out like a black scourge - each time she does it, she looks more tired and desperate to appear with it and relevant. You don't do this by leaping on every bandwagon that comes your way my dear, you have to be innovative and original yourself. That's why I have no love for her - she's a ruthless explotative hasbeen wow, and ive been accused of being a hater before! i just dont see it that way. for the most part, she does like to take things from other subcultures, this is true. but she does it very respectfully i think. she pays all these dance music producers very well and gives them massive exposure they wouldnt otherwise receive, etc. she doesnt ask that people change their stuff up to make it popular, she just makes these things okay in popular culture by doing them. whats wrong with that? if only other people with that kind of cultural power used that power to get money and props for musicians and people who deserve it! i guess bjork does to a much smaller degree, and maybe radiohead as well. but the list is very short and none of them are as popular as madonna tom
Re: (313) Madonna..
i prefer audion and the 154 - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:22 PM Subject: RE: (313) Madonna.. On Wed, November 16, 2005 3:12 pm, Odeluga, Ken wrote: Madonna produced by Jacques-Lu-Cont! Radical! (Ok, you're right. It's not right that I'm dissing it and I've not even heard it. I'll listen to it, then *diss* it :) Have we really come to talking about this people?!? how is it possible to not love madonna?!?!? tom
Re: (313) Genres
On Nov 16, 2005, at 11:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm all into acoustitronica? these days. How does that differ from this? http://www.bangonacan.org/store/item.html?sku=CA21028 -- Ian
Re: (313) Genres
It's like black and white, night and day dude. Acoustitronica has NOTHING to do with acoustica. Don't you see, the stuff I listen to has tronica in the name so it's totally different and cooler. The music I listen to almost has a separate bin with a label in the record shops. MEK Ian Malbon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/16/2005 12:53:08 PM: On Nov 16, 2005, at 11:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm all into acoustitronica? these days. How does that differ from this? http://www.bangonacan.org/store/item.html?sku=CA21028 -- Ian
RE: (313) Madonna..
On Wed, November 16, 2005 5:12 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is that why Madonna claimed to have invented vogueing? youll definitely have to point me to where she claims that, ive never seen or heard of that. I think Björk has exposed so many more people to a new way of listening to music The difference between Björk and Madonna can be seen first in the writing credits - Björk is the lone writer on the majority of her songs (see my previous post about Madonna) her concepts/music are light years ahead of Madonna's try as you might to compare them - the two just are on two totally different planes of existence except of course for the fact that bjork is listened to by maybe 1/10th of the size audience that madonna is, if that. madonna getting relatively underground electronic music played on pop radio stations is something that bjork certainly isnt pulling off (not to take anything from her of course, i love both of them!). they are definitely different, but madonna does things on the most mainstream level, and the stuff she gets away with on that level is far crazier than what bjork gets away with on her much more limited stage. tom
(313) Cratesavers
Evening/Morning/Afternoon all. Was asked to forward the following, which may be of interest to list peeps: Best, Dan. Cratesaver Muzik: The Continuance of Detroit's Electronic Legacy. SCAN 7 and Posatronix have joined forces to create Cratesavers Muzik. Together with a vision of preservation, they seek to keep the movement of the electronic music culture strong, true, and independent. Move into the future, realize the present don’t forget about the history. How Cratesavers came to be: The idea behind Cratesavers Muzik is the preservation of vinyl records. Label: http://www.discogs.com/label/Cratesaver+Records+Detroit 2004 Trackmasta Lou Posatronix - longtime acquaintances decided to embark on Cratesavers Muzik as a group collaboration. It was in their best interest to pool their resources together to make the big push. With over 30 combined years of experience making records and working in the industry, they've witnessed first hand what works and what doesn't work. This experience is the reason they have decided to try their hand at the business end of the music. Cratesavers Muzik embodies common sense and family values along with the preservation of the craft. The label is open to all types/genres of music submissions. Trackmasta Lou Posatronix have their roots strongly planted in various types of electronic music. In order to be a part of the label, artists have to be able to perform live/analog to be a part of the label. Website Information: November 2005 will also launch of the new Cratesavers Muzik website. http://www.cratesavers.com The website will feature artist bios, a gallery for event photos, a forum for fan interaction, streaming audio, news, tour dates, booking information and an online store. The store will feature the labels catalog and will offer both digital downloads of original production material and hard copies of the catalog (records CDs). In the future, other merchandise will become available for purchase including t-shirts, stickers and free downloads! Keep your eye out for other techno memorabilia and rarities as well. The site design was collaborative effort with the Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com Arthur Oskan record release: Cratesavers Muzik presents Arthur Oskan's Resolutions Record: Resolutions Record Release Date: Nov 19th Age: 27 He is very passionate about the Cratesavers ideals. Trackmasta Lou Posatronix met Arthur Oskan at the Fuse-In Festival in Detroit in 2005. Arthur who is from Toronto, was booked to play at a Fuse-In after party that was subsequently cancelled. They went to hang out with him in his hotel room to check out his music. After the festival, Trackmasta Lou Posatronix took a trip up to Toronto to check out Arthur's studio. They feel that Arthur’s work captures the essence of Detroit. His music will set the bar for the future releases on the Cratesavers label. Information for the Arthur Oskan's Resolutions Record Release Party: Cratesavers Muzik Presents Arthur Oskan's Resolutions Record Release Party Date: Nov. 19th, 2005 Location: The Hub http://www.hub-detroit.com 1344 Broadway, Downtown Detroit – 313-961-2000 Your MC will be Detroit's premier techno radio show host, 90.9 FM's own Magic Mike Young, the man who brought you Stick it in your Ear”. Artists Keith Tucker – DJ K-1 // Aux88 // Puzzlebox Records // James Pennington – Suburban Knight // Underground Resistance // Arthur Oskan (Live PA) // Cratesavers Muzik // Doors at 10pm // $5 cover // 21+ This party will mark the release of the Cratesavers first record on the label: Arthur Oskan’s “ Resolutions”. Info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bookings: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reporting from the front lines, -The Informer
RE: (313) Genres
MKD Dude... how can you say it's like night and day black and white?? Did you actually read what the description says? Alarm Will Sound, who the NY Times calls the future of classical music, has, with a cadre of 10 arrangers, painstakingly recreated and rethought Aphex Twin's legendary electronic work for an all-acoustic ensemble. That to me shows a direct link between electronic music and acoustic... might not be exactly the link your talking about, but it's definitely in the grey area, not black and white like you say. And as for your version being cooler... all I can say is what?? I think it's great that classical music is evolving to study electronic music... 10 arrangers painstakingly recreated and rethought Aphex Twins music... how can anyone not think that's cool? And just so you know, I don't like acoustic music, I rarely listen to anything other than electronic, but I do like people being creative with electronic music, and I love that other genres are studying it. So... MKD... Since your version of music is s much cooler than the rest... post some of it... let us hear it. Cheers!! JoD -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2005 19:10 To: Ian Malbon Cc: 313 List Subject: Re: (313) Genres It's like black and white, night and day dude. Acoustitronica has NOTHING to do with acoustica. Don't you see, the stuff I listen to has tronica in the name so it's totally different and cooler. The music I listen to almost has a separate bin with a label in the record shops. MEK Ian Malbon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/16/2005 12:53:08 PM: On Nov 16, 2005, at 11:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm all into acoustitronica? these days. How does that differ from this? http://www.bangonacan.org/store/item.html?sku=CA21028 -- Ian
Re: (313) Madonna..
except of course for the fact that bjork is listened to by maybe 1/10th of the size audience that madonna is, if that. madonna getting relatively underground electronic music played on pop radio stations is something that bjork certainly isnt pulling off (not to take anything from her of course, i love both of them!). they are definitely different, but madonna does things on the most mainstream level, and the stuff she gets away with on that level is far crazier than what bjork gets away with on her much more limited stage. must be a cultural difference or something but i can't beleive you're honestly arguing for madonna's corner. in the UK that bland electro-pop that she's peddling is what fills the charts (and has done for a few yearssugarbabes, libertyX, kylie etc). she's just hired some geezer who can do that, paid big for an abba sample (pop gold) and run with that. she has pretentions of being landed gentry here as well i also find faintly ludicrous. robin...
(313) Carl Craig on Beats in Space
I can't remember if anyone here likes Carl Craig or not, but just in case, here is a set that was aired on beats in space last night: http://www.beatsinspace.net/main.html While you're there, perhaps last week's show may be interesting to you also, Darshan Jesrani from Metro Area played some records, and played them well. Oh yeah, Tim Sweeney, host of beats in space, is no slouch himself. I've never heard a bad mix set on this show. He covers many genres over many decades in the span of any one show and does it very well. Enjoy! Regards, Adam