RE: (313) White Stripes
Words simply can't express how happy I am to see this list finally discussing some hardcore honky-tonk. Now, if only I could steer the discussion on the 661 list -- that's Bakersfield, y'all -- around to the new Kirk Degiorgio Soul of Science mix!
RE: (313) Movement Question
Shake definitely played it at Movement -- about halfway through his set, just before he went into Daft Punk's Harder Faster Stronger and This Is Radio Clash. Probably my fave new track of the weekend...so it's Krikor? > -Original Message- > From: Kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 10:55 AM > To: 313 list > Subject: Re: (313) Movement Question > > > On Fri, 30 May 2003, Jonny McIntosh wrote: > > > Is that maybe that Krikor thing that Shake played when I saw him in > > Liverpool? Similar cut up approach to that Canadian beginning with 'A' - > > some strings and stuff. I liked it. Maybe it's that. Bet you're glad I'm > > back on 313 being helpful, eh? > > > Akufen? > > >
RE: (313) Exploring Drum and Bass
Yep, 1995 is right. http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=12:27:26|PM&sql=Akt6qoauauijn
RE: (313) Desperately Seeking...
> Titonton Duvante - Selections For Intercourse - ON CD Yep, this one does exist -- I got mine at the Record Time tent right after Titonton's performance at DEMF 2001...haven't seen it since though, so maybe it never hit the *stores* ?? John http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=10:11:30|AM&sql=Ast6m96hojepo
RE: (313) what the hell is this?
> anyone on this list work with All Music Guide? > > explain please Man, I was picturing a photo of Johnny Mathis on Rob Hood's page before *ever* expecting to see a tidbit like that!! There are quite a few joke pages on AMG, if you know where to look -- it never hurts to plug into the search engine any of the bylines from the end of reviews, or such. Mine isn't much of a hoot, but Mr. Jason Ankeny's biography has one of my all-time favorite bits: "In his off hours he continues to freelance for AMG, at least when not working on his pet project "Tigga Please," a proposed live-action adaptation of the classic Winnie the Pooh series starring rapper Ol' Dirty Bastard as Christopher Robin." > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 2:12 PM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: (313) what the hell is this? > > > I was scanning various genres of music on allmusic.com and came > across this > - > > http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Bzjuvadzkl8wj > > anyone on this list work with All Music Guide? > > explain please > > it's quite funny > MEK > > >
RE: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching
> when the British were starting > to come down in the mid-'80s. > > > yeah, speaking of coming-down brits I was actually talking about coming down to Ibiza, but it works pretty well both ways... > -Original Message- > From: dave cronin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 11:23 AM > To: John Bush; Dan Sicko; Tristan Watkins > Cc: 313 > Subject: Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching > > > yeah, speaking of coming-down brits, I'm pretty sure I've heard alex > patterson drop E2-E4. > > also, I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, but the track is like 45 > minutes long, with mostly only subtle modulations to keep it > moving. almost > like a precursor to consumed-era plastikman. sound-wise, to me it feels > strongly related to the warmth and tonality of a lot of kompakt releases. > > > >> I'm not sure how many people were actually hip to this > >> record in Detroit outside of Carl and maybe Derrick ... > > > > I think it was more of an influence on the Balearic style...I remember > > hearing that E2-E4 was one of the tracks Alfredo would play > when the British > > were starting to come down in the mid-'80s. > > > > John > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 10:36 AM > >> To: Tristan Watkins > >> Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > >> Subject: Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching > >> > >> > >> > >> I'm not sure how many people were actually hip to this record in > >> Detroit outside of Carl and maybe Derrick ... it wasn't something that > >> everyone heard on the radio -- or did I fall asleep listening to Mojo > >> one night? > >> > >> -d > >> > >>> > >>> Most would probably not argue that it is one of the most influential > >>> songs. > >>> For the most direct relationship, check out Paperclip People's > >>> 'Remake', > >>> which is basically a 10-minute remix of this song. I almost gagged the > >>> other > >>> day when I heard a progressive mix of this on TV. It was up there with > >>> 'Strings' level bastardizations. > >>> > >>> Tristan > >>> = > >>> Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com > >>> Music: http://www.mp313.com > >>> Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> New Mix in mp3, 'Live in Iowa City' available for > >>> a short time from http://phonopsia.isoprax.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > >
RE: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching
> I'm not sure how many people were actually hip to this > record in Detroit outside of Carl and maybe Derrick ... I think it was more of an influence on the Balearic style...I remember hearing that E2-E4 was one of the tracks Alfredo would play when the British were starting to come down in the mid-'80s. John > -Original Message- > From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 10:36 AM > To: Tristan Watkins > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching > > > > I'm not sure how many people were actually hip to this record in > Detroit outside of Carl and maybe Derrick ... it wasn't something that > everyone heard on the radio -- or did I fall asleep listening to Mojo > one night? > > -d > > > > > Most would probably not argue that it is one of the most influential > > songs. > > For the most direct relationship, check out Paperclip People's > > 'Remake', > > which is basically a 10-minute remix of this song. I almost gagged the > > other > > day when I heard a progressive mix of this on TV. It was up there with > > 'Strings' level bastardizations. > > > > Tristan > > = > > Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com > > Music: http://www.mp313.com > > Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > New Mix in mp3, 'Live in Iowa City' available for > > a short time from http://phonopsia.isoprax.com > > > > > > > >
RE: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching
> I almost gagged the other day when > I heard a progressive mix of this on TV. Hmmm, progressive house or trance? Maybe this is something different, but don't forget Sueno Latino, who had a European hit in the late '80s with what was basically a cover of E2-E4; Gottsching even played guitar on the track... http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=B699yxdsbjolf~C
RE: (313) Metro Area interview
I don't know which tracks you're talking about, but his Clear LP from 1997 (The Driving Memoirs) is an absolute masterpiece in my book, though very much in the minimalist, jazzy vein described (dismissed? ;> ) below. There are so many great ideas on that album, at least three or four per track, that some producers could've made a career out of; unfortunately, except for some of the other Environ material, it looks to have been a bit of a one-off. Maybe I'm just a sucker for that sound, but it's one of the only LPs I keep returning to -- so much so that Metro Area hasn't really impressed me in comparison (though live was a different story...) John NP: Very Best of Bizz Circuits > Morgan used to be one of that huge cadre of net-kiddies who made tracks. > I can't find the cassette from 1995/96 -- a net compilation -- that morgan > had a track on... what I remember about it was that it sounded a lot like > early Todd Sines, another guy just starting out in Ohio at the time ... > > It was pretty bare house-shuffly 909 plus some minimal jazzy chords that > settles down into a groove based around a 303 squiggle. It actually was a > decent track -- you could throw it into a tech-house set even now with > positive results > > I wonder if Morgan would ever mp3 some of his early tracks, or if > he considers > it blackmail material now ... > > Completely off-topic, but I got a CDR in the mail the other day > from a guy who > taped me singing and playing guitar in a hippy coffee house in 1978. Now > THAT is stone cold blackmail material. Allman Brothers' > "Melissa"? *shudder* > > would mp3 some of that early stuff, > > On Sat, 12 Oct 2002, J. T. wrote: > > >Hmm... I read it a little differently. I thought he was just > saying that he > > >isn't feeling the current techno output, not that he's not > influenced by > > >techno at all. > > > > i think that's much more accurate!! of course morgan used to > make techno so > > of course its an influence just not as strong as it used to be. > i'm sure he > > throws on some older stuff every now and again. he used to call > dbx one of > > his biggest influences and love eevolute etc etc...it's just > there is not a > > whole lot of soulful techno out there anymore, and when there is it's > > usually harkening back to the early 90's etc not really all that > > original... > > > >
RE: (313) what was the first techno record ever?
> or it would be a cybotron .. liek "clear" ... > or "a numer of names - sharivari" > > both ´82 Alleys of Your Mind came out in '81... > -Original Message- > From: Maarten Baute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 3:41 PM > To: henrique casanova; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) what was the first techno record ever? > > > > and i mean really techno, named that way and produced on detroit. it was > by > > juan atkins? or it was a transmat? > > > or it would be a cybotron .. liek "clear" ... > or "a numer of names - sharivari" > > both ´82 > > or later the "model 500 - no ufo´s"... ´85 > > when did the start to use the term techno anyway? > > I think it first appeared on the "techno, new dance sounds of detroit" > compilation on 10. > > Cheers, > Maarten > >
RE: Supplier of record jackets and sleeves?
> Anybody have a link to a supplier of > sleeves and jackets for 12" records? Otherwise check http:\\www.bagsunlimited.com ... they carry sleeves, jackets, mailers, cases, etc.
RE: [313] commercial/progressive no Trance
Mayhap he harks back to those glorious days of yore (I mean, R&S) ?? > -Original Message- > From: Rob Theakston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:53 PM > To: DJ HEAT; DETROIT > Subject: RE: [313] commercial/progressive no Trance > > > what the hell are you talking about? > > -Original Message- > From: DJ HEAT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:51 PM > To: DETROIT > Subject: [313] commercial/progressive no Trance > > > Is the real stuff dead? Will the Moby's and the BT'S > REALLY WIN? > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! News - Today's headlines > http://news.yahoo.com > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Religious producers/DJ's (was: TERRENCE PARKER)
Apologies in advance for two short commments. > No there probably won't be any collaborations but this > makes me think why is sex so bad in the eyes of "Christians"? I'm not sure which Christians you're referring to here, but the reason why many unreligious people think this about Christians is the old Puritanical attitudes getting associated with all of Christianity. Most Christians think sex is so important that it not be taken lightly, as it often is. > stop using a talent that "God" gave him? > > That's just too bad that "God" > has asked him to stop using it. I'm sure "God" was rocking out every time he played, but even happier to see his family getting more attention than they used to. BTW: I have it on good authority that God's favorite DJ's are Frankie Knuckles, Kevin Saunderson, and TP... John http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=A5dmsa9cgq23a - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] ymo
> Can anyone point me out to a decent biography of these guys. I'm biased but All Music Guide has a good section on yrs majesty, YMO. http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Baq6atr69kl7x > And can anyone describe there role > in the develpment of electronical music? Did what Kraftwerk did, slightly later and almost as well? Close enough. They also used more varied influences than Kraftwerk, were bouncier & poppier, and made the direct link between video-game-type music and music-type music... The YMO track that usually gets played is "Computer Game", which is on the first LP from 1978, and I *think* I remember Juan playing that one. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] cameo
> | Where is cameo a.k.a. Larry Blackmon from? > | New York? Detroit? Philly? I would've guessed Philly myself, but he grew up in Harlem, and that's where Cameo started as well... Blackmon and Nathan Leftenant appear on a track from the new (DJ) Cam album Soulshine, but it's not good...lame Roy Ayers rehash, in my opinion. Best track (only good one actually) is a DJ Premier remix of Voodoo Child. http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=B87520r1ac48z John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Fw: Psychick Warriors Ov Gaia return
> yeah - saw them live a few times and totally mesmeric. Wow, when/where? Were they still performing behind curtains? These guys were so good and got so little recognition -- Record of Breaks is a masterpiece, definitely several years ahead of its time. I'd love to hear the reaction if it came out on Force Inc today... ;> Does anyone know if any of them went on to other projects? John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Soundtracks and Early Memories
Can't believe no one's mentioned Star Hustler yet! Okay, actually I'm rather glad of it. John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] non techno
Oh well, so much for that...though I've done my share of spoiling already -- blurted out the results of the U.S. match for someone who'd said they weren't interested the day before. I'll be happy just as long as no one clues me in on how Saudi Arabia did against Germany...or Cameroon... ;> > -Original Message- > From: John Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 9:39 AM > To: Ian Cheshire; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [313] non techno > > > > hurray!! c'mon England! > > I'll be rooting as hard as anyone once I finally get a chance to watch it, > so if y'all could keep mum about how it turns out, I'd appreciate it... > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Ian Cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 9:31 AM > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 313@hyperreal.org > > Subject: RE: [313] non techno > > > > > > hurray!! c'mon England! > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 07 June 2002 14:34 > > To: 313@hyperreal.org > > Subject: [313] non techno > > > > > > Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers > > > > Start of message text > > > > Hmm. > > > > > > Let's go f**king mental, lets go f**king mental la la la la. > > > > - End of message text > > > > This e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is > > addressed. If an addressing or transmission error has > > misdirected this e-mail, please notify the author by replying to > > this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient you must not > > use, disclose, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. > > > > The principal place of business of PricewaterhouseCoopers and > > its associate partnerships is 1 Embankment Place, London > > WC2N 6RH where lists of the partners' names are available for > > inspection. All partners in the associate partnerships are > > authorised to conduct business as agents of, and all contracts > > for services to clients are with, PricewaterhouseCoopers. The > > UK firm of PricewaterhouseCoopers is authorised by the > > Institute of Chartered Accountants in England and Wales to > > carry on investment business. PricewaterhouseCoopers is a > > member of the world-wide PricewaterhouseCoopers > > organisation. > > > > PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming > > e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and > > telecommunications systems. > > > > > > Visit our website http://www.pwcglobal.com > > > > > > _ > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to > > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged > > material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or > > taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or > > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If > > you received > > this in error, please contact the sender and delete the > material from any > > computer. > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] non techno
> hurray!! c'mon England! I'll be rooting as hard as anyone once I finally get a chance to watch it, so if y'all could keep mum about how it turns out, I'd appreciate it... > -Original Message- > From: Ian Cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 9:31 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [313] non techno > > > hurray!! c'mon England! > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 07 June 2002 14:34 > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: [313] non techno > > > Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers > > Start of message text > > Hmm. > > > Let's go f**king mental, lets go f**king mental la la la la. > > - End of message text > > This e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is > addressed. If an addressing or transmission error has > misdirected this e-mail, please notify the author by replying to > this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient you must not > use, disclose, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. > > The principal place of business of PricewaterhouseCoopers and > its associate partnerships is 1 Embankment Place, London > WC2N 6RH where lists of the partners' names are available for > inspection. All partners in the associate partnerships are > authorised to conduct business as agents of, and all contracts > for services to clients are with, PricewaterhouseCoopers. The > UK firm of PricewaterhouseCoopers is authorised by the > Institute of Chartered Accountants in England and Wales to > carry on investment business. PricewaterhouseCoopers is a > member of the world-wide PricewaterhouseCoopers > organisation. > > PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming > e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and > telecommunications systems. > > > Visit our website http://www.pwcglobal.com > > > _ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged > material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or > taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If > you received > this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any > computer. > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Techno songs so good they make you cry....
> massive attackprotection Uggh -- so sappy! ;> Give me Unfinished Sympathy any day... John Speaking of making you cry... --> NP: Larry Levan - Live at the Paradise Garage - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Trackmode Party --> Run it down for the curious ones!
> This is the first time I've seen dixon, and he reminded me in > appearance and behavior of Prince during his Dirty Mind stage Makes me wonder what he was getting up to behind the blue tarp during his live set at Planet E last year! I have to admit, I was pretty close to the front during this year's performance, and I thought it was all simulated... John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] extended forecast
Whenever I need a second opinion, I check out Weather Underground (wunderground.co). Based right here in Ann Arbor too; they're putting a positive spin on it all...well, at least for Monday... FRIDAY (Angry cloud faces blowing...) Showers and thunderstorms likely in the morning. Otherwise...mostly cloudy. Highs near 70. Chance of rain 60 percent. SATURDAY AND SUNDAY (Big purple question marks...) A chance of showers. Lows 43 to 48. Highs 60 to 65. MEMORIAL DAY (Happy sun with smiley face!!) Dry. Lows 48 to 53. High 70 to 75. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Shorecrest Inn?
I was there the first year and didn't have any problems -- it's a 15-minute walk up Jefferson and has a nice diner. I seem to remember some lowrider activity on the street in back, but loud systems aren't much of a concern at DEMF... ;> > -Original Message- > From: shower_blue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 3:41 PM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: [313] Shorecrest Inn? > > > how's the Shorecrest as a place to stay for demf? > is the Courtyard Marriott worth the extra $50 a night? > > thanks. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Blackwater - Strings Remix
> ah that'llbe Craig Armstrong.. According to allmusic, it's Will Malone, but we've been wrong before... ;> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Blackwater - Strings Remix
> i always thought the strings had been > lifted frm somewhere but im not sure > that it was definately this as it sounded > reasonably recent - any one know the score? Looks like they credit a conductor for the Blue Lines album (if you're talking about Unfinished Sympathy). That doesn't quite confirm it, but I can't think of any other "orchestral" tracks on that one... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] In Defense of Luke
I think he gave in far too quickly and easily to "make a pop album" -- sounds like he took notes while listening to a few Depeche/Moroder records and presto, he's got a pop record... As for the vocals, I think he could've done much better too. At his best Ricky Aloof sounds like a second-rate Jason Pierce (Spiritualized), at his worst he sounds like a fourth-rate Horace Andy. John NP: Lo Fi Allstars-Don't Be Afraid of Love (now that's a pop album!) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] BLAZE - 25 Years Later
Tough! I've been looking for a few years myself, and still haven't seen it... > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:52 AM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: [313] BLAZE - 25 Years Later > > > Hiya all, > > Back in 1992 Motown released Blaze's first ever album called "25 years > later". I am told it was a major flop. > > What are the chances that I might come accross a copy of that album? Is it > ultra rare & expensive? > > Anyone got a copy he/she wants to part with? :) > > Any info is appreciated. > > out > > W > > > -- > > The information in this Internet email is confidential and may be > legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access > to this Internet email by anyone else is unauthorised. > > If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, > distribution > or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is > prohibited > and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice > contained in this Internet email are subject to the terms and conditions > expressed in any applicable governing ING terms of business or > client engagement letter. > > Visit us at www.ing.com > > -- > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!
> While money may be the easiest problem to > shake your fist at, the marketing forces > that determine the economics are guided by > history - a history of bigotry and conservativism > that refuses to acredit African-Amercians with > anything outside of popular stereotypes. Don't forget hillbillies! Obviously race made a huge difference in blacks not getting airplay, but class and regional identification pushed country music out of the mainstream for a long time too. Does this prove that (music industry) money sees no color? Not necessarily, there were plenty of bigots in the music business (as in society), but as an industry-wide force it may have been a more pragmatic form of bigotry... John NP: In the Beginning There Was Rhythm - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Lost - further details
Oooh, at least one 734 313'er will be in England round then -- I'm leaving Detroit on March 28 and getting back April 10 (though, granted, I did just see Derrick last month). If there are any other intriguing shows happening anywhere in England around these dates, I'd love to hear about them > -Original Message- > From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 6:37 AM > To: 313 > Subject: [313] Lost - further details > > > Juan Atkins & Derrick May > > Sun 31 March > > no venue as of yet > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] re: BDP - ceremony minded tricks
> :BDP - lol for black dog - > : > :but BDP was big b4 black dog :D Did anyone else confuse BOC for Blue Oyster Cult like I did? It took me a week to realize people were talking about Boards of Canada! John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] theblackdog. (was: Re: [313] brinkman - rosa cd)
> who hasn't released anything > remotley touching the original > Black Dog Productions stuff Sure, his "solo" LP doesn't sound like the stuff BDP was doing seven years earlier, but it's still excellent...especially recommended for those into Byrne/Eno Fourth World-type collage. John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] re- gary numan
> i might be wrong, but i remember it coming > out in the days when jeff mills, laurent > garnier and dave clarke were still selling > out friday nights at Club UK. Looks like early '97... http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=A331150 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] AMG Criteria
> It is entirely up to the editor, who is > influenced by the publisher and their > concerns about the market they are targeting. I'd never presume about your experiences, so *please* don't presume about ours. AMG has never received any type of suggestion, concerning direction or inclusions, from any outside source (including our publisher), and would refuse to accept any given. Our publisher accepts exactly what we give them -- which of course means that any and all complaints about inclusions or treatment can be laid at our feet. > A few years ago I was asked by the editor > of one of those books to compile a list of > essential/important electronic artists, > and either write their bios myself > or find people who could help out. Which "one of those books"?? Since I've been here six years, I'm safe in assuming you meant "one of those types of books", not AMG specifically. > I put a lot of work into narrowing down a list of > 120 or so, but before I could see how many of > those I could get good bios and discographies for, > the editor insisted that I include only bands that had > domestic releases that were currently in-print on CD. Yikes, that *is* a horror story...sorry your experience was so negative -- obviously the guy was a hack who didn't know a thing about the scene. AMG's always been given complete freedom (and wouldn't accept less) to write anything we want about everything we want. Just clearing up what may have been a few mistaken assumptions... John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] AMG Criteria
> If your are looking for info Richie Hawtin, > Derrick May or f*cking Moby, it's all in there, > obviously, but also names you (me) wouldn't expect > like Michael James, Frank de Groodt & Astralasia. Yes, there's a reason we didn't call it the All Music Guide to Techno... ;> There *are* hundreds of 313 names in there (many who aren't in the Rough Guide) and we're probably heaviest on techno, but we did have to scrimp to fit all the other people out there, ones who've either done something we judged fits under the electronica umbrella, or had an earlier impact on the sound. AMG is a listeners guide, so we don't leave artists out just because they're popular or we don't like their music -- though we definitely take bad music to task. > But apparently you have a major influence on > the development of dance music when you have > a mixed CD out Boxed / Global Underground. Well of course not, but for the people who don't know anything about dance music and want to figure out what Digweed or Sasha or maybe even (heaven forbid) Danny Tenaglia is doing, we'll tell them what's it all about and if it's any cop. John NP: Flying Burrito Brothers (briefly considered but later dropped for AMG to Electronica) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] is it music?
> turning your nose up at d'n'b is no better than > the d'n'b people (a load of ex-ravers who discovered > a few techno records round about 1993) That's stretching the truth -- nobody spun a hardcore/drum'n'bass set with just Bug in the Bassbin and a few KMS records... There were a lot of great records coming straight out of the British hardcore/rave scene back then, and though Detroit techno influenced a *few* of them, the scene was totally self-supporting. John -Original Message- From: Stephen Kelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 3:31 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] is it music? a couple of thoughts.. it's a reese bassline - kevin master reese saunderson.. not alex 'metalheadz' reece.. d'n'b/hardcore had reese basslines before it had alex reece.. nobody who was into d'n'b should even make this mistake or else they haven't been listening.. d'n'b has proved itself - it's influenced modern r'n'b and spawned the whole uk garage thing - personally i'm not into either, but it proves that d'n'b has influenced/inspired people - so it's music.. techno influenced d'n'b (see above) and you don't have to be into both, but you can't go around saying one thing isn't music just 'cause you're not into it.. turning your nose up at d'n'b is no better than the d'n'b people (a load of ex-ravers who discovered a few techno records round about 1993) who deserted photek when he put house tracks on the last album.. i like delsin.. the new delsin album by dimension5 is lush.. rave on kids - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twoplayer.net/theo http://twoplayer.net/kdj _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] british electronic foundation
Sorry, no British number one smashes for Associates -- they barely even hit the Top Ten (once with Party Fears Two from early '82). Two others in the Top 40: Club Country (mid-'82) and Love Hangover/18 Carat Love Affair (late '82). John -Original Message- From: Mxyzptlk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 8:27 PM To: Odeluga, Ken Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] british electronic foundation Some of the lyrics would help! If it was '82, it was probably "Party Fears Two" or "Club Country". If it was a bit later (say 1- 2 years) it might have been "Waiting for the Love Boat" "Those First Impressions" or "Perhaps". If it was earlier it could have been "White Car In Germany", "Kitchen Person", "Q-Quarters"...and that's not taking anything into account from "The Affectionate Punch" (their 1st lp). jeff At 04:57 AM 1/23/2002, you wrote: >Sorry I got this wrong, it was only MacKenzie, Rankine lives on ... we had >this discussion yesterday - but no harm reiterating ... Can anyone remember >their number 1 UK smash, circa 1982/3? ... I remember some of the lyrics but >not the title ... Those were strange times to grow up in ... subversive >musuc still got on telly in those days ... now, where's me Zimmer? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] british electronic foundation
There's info at allmusic: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Bqn09kett7q7m Slightly poppier than I'd like to hear, but I still think they were very brilliant -- just listen to, well, Music for Listening To. John -Original Message- From: RC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 7:37 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] british electronic foundation can anyone point out some links to info about this elusive early electronic outfit and/or better yet some soundbytes? ta peace rc - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] for those in detroit
And they get a *lot* of shout-outs! Definitely the most fun on Detroit radio I've heard in years -- even better than Magic 105.1... ;> Let's hear it for community radio! -Original Message- From: Rob Theakston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:01 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] for those in detroit this afternoon on 90.9 FM, Mike Clark will be on the "After School House Party" mix show from 4.30-?. the request/shout out line is 313-596-3529. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] For those in the U.K.
Steve Dahl. A friend just told me that the "on-air buddy" on his show was black *and* homosexual *and* a friend of Steve's -- so no more using him as the stick to beat up on the anti-disco movement (at least for the usual black/homosexual reasons). Maybe he really *did* dislike the music! John Wishing he had his Salsoul stuff in today... -Original Message- From: Tom Robbins/Tom Magic Feet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 5:14 AM To: 313 mailing list Subject: Re: [313] For those in the U.K. Can't remember, Steve something-or-other, but the dialogue from his anti-Disco burn-in appears on the latest Parallax Corporation CD from I-F, and probably about a hundred others as well. Subject: Re: [313] For those in the U.K. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Felix Da Housecat
Anyone heard his new full-length? Comparisons to Maddkatt Courtship's I Know Elektrikboy? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] AMG at Borders in Ann Arbor
Hi Everyone, You're all welcome to stop by the Borders in downtown AA tonight for a presentation/book-signing for the All Music Guide to Electronica. It's at 7pm, and the basic set-up is me playing a few of my favorite tracks, then talking about the progression of electronic music from the '60s to the '90s, etc. If that's not enough, Rob Theakston and Bill Van Loo will be handling the sound before and after my wanky speech. ;> And of course, everybody's going to be downtown anyway, for Unite Through Music a coupla blocks down (details below). John thursday 9.20 ann arbor: michigan unite through music: a benefit for the disaster relief fund of new york city. kevin saunderson mike scroggs electronic dance coalition sanctioned by the red cross. all proceeds go towards relief efforts. doors: 9pm sharp $10 18-20 $8 21+ nectos : 516 east liberty : ann arbor michigan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] WTC - Nostrodamas prediction
> the third big war will begin > when the big city is burning." A really bad one too -- most of those Nostradamus hoaxes at least get the Medieval syntax/word-choice correct... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] WTC
Another point: there's a very large Arab population around the Detroit/Dearborn area, so I just want to say, my heart goes out to you in the community as well. If *anyone* in *any* way persecutes you, please know that there's a large community of Americans who'd decry any attempt to link a *supposed* terrorist attack originating from the Middle East to people of Arabic descent living here; I love and am proud of all the various pockets of culture around America. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] how was madonna???
> I caught the kraftwork reference as well. Not to say she wasn't down with Kraftwerk/Bambaataa back in the day, but this may have come courtesy of Jacques lu Cont from Les Rythmes Digitales -- who's in her backing band I believe... .john. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] new order
> for me its a little bit less then i > excpected. But its just enough to hear > sumner again. "crystal" is perfect. And dig that video! I could've sworn it was Travis or Starsailor or Blur or one of those half-pint Britpop twats... ;> John PS: Right on with Sumner and Hook -- they sound better than ever... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] All DJing Has Come to an End...
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RE: [313] LFO Comeback?
> Errr? Gez has been quite prolific over the past several years. > > .Or am I just missing the context of the comment? Not that he hasn't done a lot of great tracks, just that he's doing "that" sound for "that" label. Sounding a little old to my ears, that's all -- chalk it up to Monday morning if you wish... OT Add-On: Anyone else sorry to see 105.1 (The Groove) transform from a pretty-good soul/funk format into some kinda mess of an adult-contemporary station? Anyone else have favorites for groove-y stations left on the FM dial around Detroit? .john. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] LFO Comeback?
> : "(Mark and Gez have since parted company - Mark > : remaining as LFO and Gez recording solely as G Man. Don't forget Gez's several releases as himself: Presents Tony Montana on !K7 and the just-released Bayou Paradis. Unfortunately, the black hole known as Force Inc has claimed yet another producer... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Ferndale Or Roseville
> Which is hopefully not just a cash in printed version > of the website entries like all the other AMG books? Cash in? I suppose you're right -- companies like to make money, and the people who work for companies appreciate being paid for their effort... In that sense, the book is a total cash-in. But for all the people who aren't making any extra money from this book (namely, all of our writors and editors, most everyone associated with AMG), the only thing *we* really care about is getting a quality product out there that people will find helpful and make us proud to be doing what we're doing. There *is* quite a bit of information in the book that's not available on the website -- essays, label descriptions, book reviews, music maps, etc. Though all of the biographies and reviews appearing in the book *are* accessible on our website, I'm not sure we should be punished for it. Obviously, it all comes down to a question of value -- is it worth it to have all the information organized and presented in the most easily browseable medium ever devised. I sort of like succumbing to the random nature of a book, just paging around and letting my eye wander. I don't want to shame anyone into buying a copy -- if you've *ever* been to our website, you should be buying a copy of this book... ;> -- but I think it's comprehensive, well-done, and very fun to use. (I've dropped so much money in the past few years based on what I've found on our website and in our books.) As to the factual entries, we're typically overwhelmed by all the corrections necessary to keep a project like this error-free. I'll take care of the Steve Reid fiasco, though -- my favorite mistaken identity is Bill Monroe appearing on Sgt. Pepper's... ;> And definitely e-mail any other errors you see directly to me. john - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] detroit wayne county vs. detroit metro airport
> So is Detroit City Airport closed down? Well, not closed down -- just without service from a professional airline. That still leaves thousands of private pilots free to land, taxi, take off, whatever they want, whenever they please... .john. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] the stupid letter i got from carol marvin.
> What the h#ll are "Focus-themed activities" ??? Just like Duff Man from The Simpsons -- they're activities meant to promote awareness of the Ford Focus! .john. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] All Music Guide to Electronica
I think it's been mentioned here a few times in the past, but after four years of working and waiting, we're finally ready to publish the All Music Guide to Electronic(a). Anyone who's spent time on the allmusic.com site knows we take care of a *lot* of records (plus a lot of Detroit records) and this book is no different -- 1,200 artists, 5,000 releases, dozens of essays and label/style descriptions, plus book reviews, etc. Amazon.com has a publishing date of May 18 (this Friday), though I'm not sure the major bookstores will have copies before the festival. What I do know is we'll have a table set up with books for sale at the Record Time in Roseville next Friday (May 25 - mid-to-late afternoon). Of course we'll be selling copies from our booth at DEMF as well -- they're $20 each, which is $5 off the normal price. We'll have plenty of artists coming by, plus a few surprise guests. No pressure to spend money, but Diana and I (and maybe Rob) and all the other AMG brethren would love to see as many people stop by as can make it... .john. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Carl on Cover of Detroit News...
> Why, on earth, would a major company, > fire the head guy, a notorious artist > no less, 2 weeks prior to the event? Maybe she wouldn't have an excuse after volume two became a roaring success?... There's an article on the cover of today's Detroit News too... http://www.detroitnews.com/2001/entertainment/0105/16/a01-224860.htm .john. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] about moby and his corporate money he receives...
> but then he puts them on a "side stage" > read: yeah I couldn't be doing what I'm > doing today with out these pioneers, so we'll > put em on the side stage while I'm on the main. I sure don't want to defend Moby (though he's good at what he does), but even though he's the frontman of this whole tour, he probably didn't have much of a say regarding who's playing where -- especially with hype-worthy acts like Incubus and Nelly Furtado involved... Look on the bright side; there'll be absolutely nothing on the main stage to distract you from what's going on at the side stage... ;> I can just see the conversation now... Moby: "Hey, I've got these three really talented black guys from Detroit for the main stage." Corporate People: "Well, we've already got a coupla rappers." Moby: "Ummm, they're not rappers..." Corporate People: "So what, are they like D'Angelo or something?" Moby: "No, they're techno DJs." Corporate People: "Wha?"
RE: [313] Interesting Insight
> They have a great marketing plan with > sponsoring the DEMF and Moby tour. Definitely better than those awful Focus commercials shot in front of the State Theater (?), with a scary-makeup'ed, middle-aged pitchwoman "interpreting" all the "cool" things that kids are saying about the car... One of the kids says "slammin' tunes 24/7", then she turns to the camera and says "quality stereo". Makes me retch much more than most car commercials. .john.
RE: [313] Opinions on the Stacey Pullen LP?
> RE: two-step garage, not all of it is commercial > or obvious and it's a shame that the hype is > impacting on perceptions of the music as a whole. I don't think anyone would knock Masters at Work for sounding commercial, so it's hard to see why anyone could knock 2-step for the same reasons (okay, comparing a group with an entire scene is a bit dangerous to begin with). When it's done right though it's pure adrenaline, and really isn't that far from the original American garage scene back in the day -- just a bit more spastic and hyper-programmed. It's about all I've been listening to lately -- my faves so far are the Pure Garage compilation mixed by DJ EZ or any of the Locked On sets (Best Of or Sound of the Pirates). Admittedly, they're best for those who like a hook to go along with their incredible programming/production... I'm not so sure about the Wookie and MJ Cole albums -- I think they're great producers, but I just wish they wouldn't go the route of the hyped producer in a new stylee showing he can take on all sorts of things *other* than 2-step. The compilations are still the perfect buzz. .john.
RE: [313] "What Kind Of House Party Is This?"
> Does anyone have any more info on > this book? Looks like great reading. It is a great read, though Detroiters will have to laugh at the transcripts of Michigan place names -- apparently Juan studied at Wotshenaw Community College in Ipsonati or somesuch blather. It's pretty formulaic too (each DJ gets the same questions), but there's a lot of great info inside and it's one of the books I come back to a lot -- almost everyone talks about how they grew up, why they became a DJ, thoughs on the scene, etc. Here's a review I wrote for the All Music Guide to Electronic(a), which will *definitely* be published by May. "Jonathan Fleming's in-depth look at the British club scene of the late '80s and early '90s is an invaluable tool to better understand the individuals involved in making house and techno into a global force. In the first part of the book, Fleming publishes his one- or two-page interviews with close to one hundred DJs (and a few producers). Each of his selections are major influences on the style (some of whom rarely give interviews), including British names Paul Oakenfold, Pete Tong, Carl Cox, Grooverider and Andrew Weatherall as well as American legends like Frankie Knuckles, Larry Heard, Juan Atkins, Todd Terry, Jesse Saunders, Derrick May, DJ Pierre, Joey Beltram and many others. The second part of the book focuses on famed clubs around the globe including British entries like the Haçienda, Shoom, Spectrum, Land of Oz, Ministry of Sound and Cream plus a few from America like the Tunnel Club, Limelight, the Roxy, the Sound Factory and the Music Box. Though Fleming's interviews focus on only a few standard questions (and his transcriptions of the American interviews could've used an informed spell-checker), there's an astonishing amount of information (and many pictures) about the early lives and careers of most of the seminal figures in electronic dance music. What Kind of House Party Is This? is easily dance music's most educational resource."
FW: Comin From Tha D
Wednesday February 7th, 2001 Solar 3rd Year Anniversary Featuring Comin From Tha D: BluePrint Tour with DJ Assault Detroit Grand Pubahs (Live) Sean Deason Ectomorph (Live) DJ Godfather Keith Tucker @Blind Pig - 208 S. First Street, Ann Arbor MI Doors: 9:30 pm Ages: 18 + with ID Price: $10 adv, $15 at the door Tickets available at all ticket master locations www.intuit-solar.com Comin From Tha D:BluePrint will be in stores on Feb 27th! Sponsored by: Intuit-Solar Real Detroit Record Time Intuit-Solar 522 Townsend Birmingham, MI 48009 248.593.9671 fon 248.593.9673 fax www.intuit-solar.com intuit-solar (the label)... DJ Rap and Kenny Ken "Brave New World", Sean Deason, Japanese Telecom, Hush, DJ Assault, Comin From Tha D, Hybridz, Marquis.. Building for the Future. Area Code (management)... Detroit Grand Pubahs, DJ Assault, Hush.
RE: [313] stuff (what not in a Franois K set???)
> A lot of the Body and Soul folk are > using cds these days: Danny Krivit, if > I remember correctly, does. FWIW, I can > only picture myself using something that > has some kind of creative incentive. The difference comes with your approach to DJing... For hip-hop or techno DJs, turntables make perfect sense because they're trying to keep the music flowing. Francois and Danny Krivit are a bit more about keeping the *mood* flowing, basically playing out records to set an atmosphere, like David Mancuso at the original Loft parties (he used turntables, but usually refused to mix records at all). .john.
Barcelona 313'ers?
Any 313-types in or around Barcelona? I'll be there the first week of March, and I'd love to get the low-down on what's happening in Spain's grooviest city. So if you live there/lived there/been there and can help out, it'd be much appreciated... Any .john.
RE: [313] http://www.recordcollectorinc.com
> http://www.recordcollectorinc.com I can definitely vouch for this store -- I've got friends in IC, and the first time I went out there in '94, I was surprised by how many great records they had (guess I didn't expect it from Iowa). I don't remember too much in specific (only been back twice), but I do remember being shocked at seeing the second copy of uZiq's Tango N' Vectif I'd ever seen -- after Sister Ray in London, no less... .John.
RE: [313] Pooh-blahs
> if you consider a spot on t.r.l. @mtv > helping thats just a combitnation > of pop music tatics (self promotion) > and a painfully evident lack of knowledge > concerning what underground is , I've got so many great memories of being exposed to outrageous musical novelties -- Pac Jam, anybody?... ;> -- when I was a kid that it couldn't be anything *but* good for all the Korn- and Britney-addled teenagers of America to see and hear something new. They'll probably spray their cookies and Sunny D all over the couch... .John.
RE: [313] Acid life-Pump up the jam
> (incidentally, steve hurley claims he wrote 'love > can't turn around' and that farley stole it from him). And Hurley stole the bassline from "Let No Man Put Asunder" by First Choice for his own "Jack Your Body." It's all kind of moot, though -- they're both great producers (Hurley especially). .John.
RE: [313] Juan/Swayzak
> but what i don't understand is that the > material they play live is so superior > to the stuff they release on vinyl. I was thinking the exact same thing last night -- if they recorded their sets and put the best one out as their next album, it would completely *smoke* records along the same lines like the Micronauts' new one (which is still pretty good)... .John.
RE: [313] Juan/Swayzak
> wo!! that was one of the best nights at motor i've ever had. > > swayzak was great. even though there was possibly > too much bass with too much volume at times (possibly > they wanted it to sound like the speakers were blown) Agreed, that was a great night. Swayzak blew my head off to start with; I was expecting something downtempo and minimal like their recordings, but their set was *really* hard. Lots of old-school 909 beats and mega-distorted effects that completely shredded the speakers -- but in a good way... ;> Juan was great too, after sorting out the technical difficulties he settled into a really nice groove. He pitched a few of the classics a bit too fast for my dancing tastes, but worked the mix around from soulful and housey to harder old-school techno. .John. -- with apologies to Diana... ;>
Juan/Swayzak
Is this still going on at Motor tonight? I'm assuming so, but I sure haven't seen much mention of it here... Not that we haven't had a full plate this summer, but the next few days are incredibly packed: Tonight: Juan/Swayzak @ Motor Thursday: BT/Terrence Parker @ State Theatre -- one for the house-heads Fennesz/Pita @ Detroit Contemporary -- one for the chin-strokers Friday: Claude Young/Dave Angel @ Motor Saturday: John Acquaviva @ Motor Whewh! .John.
RE: [313] Good Thread!!
> Is anybody here familiar > with Russel's "serious" work? It's not quite serious work, but there's a compilation on Polygram called "Another Thought" that's still in print. It's not really classical *or* electronic, closer to pop than anything else, but still so screwed up that most anyone can get into it. I think it was compiled from tapes he left after his death... .John.
FW: Groove
> Groove is coming to the Michigan Theater in Ann Arbor > July 28-31, and will be showing at 9:30 p.m. each night. Has anyone seen this yet? Any thoughts? The only reports I hear are from big-media outlets, so when they trumpet it as the first "true" rave movie, it makes me more than just a bit uncomfortable... Still, it should be interesting -- and if you *had* to do a trance soundtrack (and I'm sure they did), you could definitely come up with some cheesier people than the names that show up here: John Digweed, Hybrid, Hardkiss... I believe the director Greg Harrison is an MSU graduate, for what it's worth... .John.
RE: [313] walter gibbons
> any comments on how this guy pioneered the > art of dj'ing, moved on to be the first > dj/producer and then released the seminal, > stripped-down classic "set it off'? Check http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=B182862 for a Walter Gibbons bio... .John.
RE: [313] re: All this Trance vs Detroit Techno shizzza
This guy is **SO** not-for-real... I'll save Mr. Sledgianowski the trouble of replying to my open-ended and offensive message by putting on my Carnac the Magnificent hat and divining his reply, no doubt forthcoming in about six minutes and transmitted to the entire list: "What do you mean not for real? I am as real as anyone else in this world and if I want to be real I will be real besides what is your definition of real? Everything I have mentioned is real and if what you hear is real you should really be able to hear it."
RE: [313] WTF is Garage anyway?
> Is garage a real genre? Sure is, and it's just as old as house or techno -- a bit underrated though, since it often gets lumped in with house because they're both similar to disco. Check http://allmusic.com/ and search for "Garage/House" under styles to get a little essay on the subject, and also check artists like Tony Humphries, Paul Trouble Anderson, Blaze, even Masters at Work, etc. for the original '80s sound or Todd Edwards, Kerri Chandler, Tuff Jam for the '90s variety... > Can someone point to towards a definitive garage track? Hard to say, but here's my favorites: "Set It Off" by Strafe "I'm Not Gonna Let You" or "Music Is the Answer" by Colonel Abrams (the first is on Tony Humphries' great mix album "Take Home the Club") "Don't Make Me Wait" by Peech Boys "If You Should Need a Friend" by Blaze There's a great compilation on Cold Front called "History of House Music, Vol. 2: New York Garage Style" that has most of these tracks... .John.
RE: [313] Previous v Present turnouts in Detroit
> Whoa. Poetry reading? Who had that? Over a DJ set?? About three-quarters of the way through May's set, Umar Bin Hassan from the Last Poets came on and did a spoken-word reading (no accompaniment from the decks). It was well-done, but it confused quite a few people -- unfortunately, he sounded *very* hoarse and was hard to understand... I don't know who was on the conga, but that part turned out great -- he was on quite a bit during May's set, and at one point, he and May did an excellent tribal decks-and-conga duet with brief pauses every 30 seconds or so. They just kept going and going, so every time the audience thought it was over, they'd launch into it again and get an even *bigger* roar from the crowd... Number 89 in a series of at least 100 spine-tingling DEMF moments... ;> .John.
RE: [313] Suggestions for next year's DEMF
> add rob hood in the mix too!!! > > definitely ... The fact that he's > at Motor this weekend nearly slipped > past me with all the DEMF hub-bub! :) Wait, Rob Hood's at Motor? I'm there if so, but I just checked Motor's site and it doesn't list him -- unless it's on Sunday?... .John.
DEMF Thoughts
Before sifting through the 600 (!) messages currently in my Inbox since last
Thursday, I thought I'd type in all my impressions to add to the atmosphere
for everyone, whether you were there and can relate or weren't and want to
know. First off, there are absolutely no doubts in my mind, this was an
*incredible* festival. All those high expectations I carried in with me
were met and surpassed on an almost hourly basis... ;) The music was
excellent and the vibes were simply incredible ('cept for the completely
misguided violent moshing by a couple of Slayer fans during Richie Hawtin's
set). All this positivity and love were such a vivid counterpoint to last
year's Woodstock (various fires, assaults, etc.)
Even more than that though -- the diversity!! I remember hearing Carl
really wanted a broad range of people showing up, and he certainly got it.
Rave kids, indie-rockers, hip-hop headz, daytripping families, middle-aged
couples, old guys all *over* the place -- it was *so* great to see the range
of people getting exposed to pure Detroit techno in the right environment.
I think we *really* showed Detroit what techno's all about. For once, it
wasn't about teens or drugs or illegal venues or shady promoters (the usual
I-Team Special Reports) -- it was *all* about the music and the culture.
Detroiters got to see the music in an almost completely unfiltered setting,
and I hope it inspires everyone that was there (it definitely inspired a few
people I didn't expect to be too moved...)
I don't know what else to say... I saw *so* many great sets: Aril Brikha,
Adult, Ectomorph, Slum Village, the Roots, Mike Clark, Theorem, Fanon
Flowers, Godfather, DJ Assault, Lauren Flax, Shake, and of course,
Saunderson/Rolando/May/Hawtin to end things on the highest note possible.
It was such a sea of humanity by Derrick's set, and just about everyone had
their hands in the air...
Lasting Impressions:
Theo Parrish taking us back to the *original* Loft days with his disco/funk
set at the Planet E afterparty... Easily my Festival highlight, and a great
thing to see since I'd missed Saturday's events.
That crazy old guy dancing and pumping his fists to Theorem (!) on Monday
afternoon...
The middle-aged black couple in front of me yelling and screaming in
recognition when Derrick dropped "No UFO's"...
One breakdancing circle I saw during Shake -- there was a whitebread father
there with his preschool-age daughter right in the circle. Her face was all
lit up at the moves, and everyone was taking special care to see she had a
good time...
And speaking of wide smiles, how about BVL getting his props on the main
stage after Richie's set?... ;)
Does anyone else get the feeling that we're going to see a *lot* more people
at events from now on, plus a big jump in record sales?...
.John.
RE: [313] industrial
> Section 25's "Looking From The Hilltops" still a fav of mine. I don't think they're out on LP, but all the Section 25 albums have been reissued on CD with bonus tracks. The reissue of From The Hip has two remixes of "Looking from a Hilltop" plus six mixes of other songs. .John.
DEMF/Hart Plaza Layout?
Hey, does anyone know of an online map with the specific layout for Hart Plaza? A friend and I are trying to agree on a good meeting spot... There is a fountain in the middle though, right? Maybe we'll just meet there... Can't believe I'm going to miss the entire first day's lineup plus the fabulous afterparties, but my stupid best friend decided to pick the Saturday before Memorial Day weekend to get married in Grand Rapids. Please don't tell me what I've missed... ;> .John.
RE: (313) national post article today
> sorry, not detroit specific, but relevant or > representational of the battle being waged > in many north american cities right now. You know, 60 Minutes II was going to have a big feature on Ecstasy this past Tuesday, but I'm pretty sure it didn't air. They previewed the Ecstasy piece on Sunday just after the regular 60 Minutes, and then it as listed in the newspaper on Tuesday, but all they had was a piece on Elian, and then some other things. Anyone know what happened? I wouldn't expect much from Dateline or 20/20, but I bet 60 Minutes could do a (comparatively) balanced report... .John.
RE: (313) man parrish
> http://www.skinny.com/music/artist/manparrish/man.html or > http://www.users.interport.net/~hotstuff/ Try http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=B19127 too... .John.
RE: (313) Question
> Because of last week's recommendations > on Francois K's Essential Mix 2CD i > ordered this online. I'm very tempted by this too, and I'm wondering about the best (ie cheapest) place to get it, online or in the Ann Arbor/Detroit area... Any suggestions welcomed. .John.
RE: (idm) Re: (313) NY Times Electronic Article
> BUT this brings up the fine topic of > why Mr. Hawtin is mentioned as the pioneer. > > you know, wouldn't Carl Craig or Mad > Mike be a more appropriate choice? Spot-on. Carl Craig would be the natural choice from all angles: as a musical pioneer, as someone with underground cred, as someone who hasn't deserted the dancefloor, and most importantly (for NY Times, at least) as the kind of major-label tie-in easily found in Tower that major media outlets tend toward . I suppose we should just be happy they didn't pick Sasha as their techno cover-boy... ;) And, to give credit where it's due, the sound clips do include "No UFO's" and "Strings of Life"... .John.
(313) NY Times Electronic Article
Prompted by the coming release of the movie "Groove," today's New York Times has a comparatively well-done article on electronic music, with separate pages explaining the differences between techno, house, drum'n'bass, trance, and big beat. Admittedly, nobody here's going to learn *too* much -- that is, unless it's a revelation to you that "a skilled DJ blends records on two or three turntables simultaneously, which is called spinning." Still, there's audio/video/interview clips balancing quite a few pioneers (Larry Levan, Juan Atkins, Richie Hawtin) with the obvious commercial favorites (Basement Jaxx, Sasha, Fatboy). Check it out... http://www.nytimes.com/library/music/031300dj-intro.html .John.
RE: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???
> > I'm Dave Clark. Spell his damn name with > > an 'e' like it's meant to be spelled. > > Once n for all, i'm not english, and I don't own bush. Okay, now who's messing around with names?... ;) .John. (who never wants to be known as "The Bushman" or "Bushy-tale" ever again...) (and no George W. jokes either, smart guys!)
RE: (313) Yellow Magic Orchestra
> for the YMO fans out there: > which releases from this band > (vinyl LPs and 12"s, not interested in cds) > are considered essential; looking to beef > up my YMO collection here, > but money's tight so would > like some opinions before i buy > more. thanks. andrew duke :) As far as the albums go, I'd recommend the first two, Yellow Magic Orchestra (1978) and Solid State Survivor (1979). I like Naughty Boys (1983) as well, but it's a bit closer to pop than proto-techno... I've got reviews up on most of their LP's at http://www.allmusic.com. Enjoy! .John.
RE: (313) let there be house!
> > could be. i've got a bad headache > > as i type this (and typed that :)) > > 'can you party' was the tod terry track that sampled > 'can you feel' by larry heard. there is a vocal and a > instrumental version (not on the same disk) both > have been re-released by trax recently. Funny, I've got a headache too! ;) It's kinda odd... There's a Todd Terry collection just out on Warlock that lists both "Can You Party" and "Can You Feel It" -- both have vocal samples that say "can you feel it," but they're definitely different sources! The one on "Can You Party" sounds like an audience live recording, and the one on "Can You Feel It" is more of a diva vocal... Both great tracks though, and the collection (Todd Terry's Greatest Hits) is excellent. Even weirder -- the collection lists "Can You Feel It" as by Mr. Fingers, but it's indeed the Todd Terry version. I don't hear any similarities to the Mr. Fingers' version, unless it's the vocal sample (I just remember the instrumental). We got any old-schoolers on the list can give us the story -- and I'm sure there's a few interesting ones ;) -- behind these tracks? .John.
RE: (313) Lil Louis " Journey with the Lonely'
> i was reading through the Smallfish web site and they > had a quick interwiew with dan bell, he gave a top 10 > and the first track was Lil Louis " Journey with the > Lonely'...can anyone tell me more info on this... > i cant find any info on it... Nice and (fairly) intimate second album from Mr. Sims, supposedly still available -- I see it at Record Time occasionally... Check http://www.allmusic.com for more info. .John.
RE: (313) Carl Craig on Saturday
> Does anyone know the name of that wicked > house track that he played, which had a > really uplifting vocal which went "I feel alright, > the world is good!" (or something similar)? Could be a few different ones, but it sounds like "It's Alright, I Feel It" from NuYorican Soul (aka Masters at Work). More info at http://allmusic.com/... .John.
RE: Sv: (313) FW: booty ghetto whadever
> What the hell is Lavelle smoking anyway? Is he even at Mo' Wax anymore? I'm pretty sure he was on his way out, but maybe some of the releases he supervised are still trickling out. I think he went to XL Recordings or to a new label, leaving Mo' Wax basically a corporate shill... .John.
RE: (313) review of solar last nite
It was pretty fabulous. I know Kenny & Carl aren't thought of primarily as DJs, but they had the place rocking! Carl had a pretty intense look on his face most of the night, but Kenny was really enjoying himself -- pumping his fist in the air every now and then, really getting the crowd into it. And it was a complete sauna on the dancefloor, you could barely move to get around *or* get down. I don't know Kenny's usual sets very well, but there were a lot of party tracks (those remixes of "I Feel Love" at two separate times, "Bango," plus a lot of those hands-in-the-air kinda wavers) with just a few jaunts into harder/minimal territory... Saw a few 313 heads in the place too -- hey Dave, how was the trip back!? ;) -- and everyone looked to be having a great time. I got there just as Carlos & Craig were wrapping up, so I can't comment on their set, but Detroit Grand Poobahs were hilarious for the 20 minutes they were on. There was a great anniversary vibe to the entire proceedings too, I only hope Solar keeps putting on events (by the way, any news on that front?). And, ummm, if that gorgeous Indian girl I was bumping with on the dancefloor is on the list, could you get in touch? ;) .John.
RE: (313) Planet E Festival
> Can someone tell me when the > Planet E fastival thing is happening? Memorial Day weekend, the official (American) kickoff to summer! That means the weekend of Friday, May 26 through Monday, May 29 (the latter is Memorial Day)... .John.
RE: (313) Li'l Louis
> throw this at 'im: > http://allmusic.com/cg... And then this... ;) http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=4:46:14|PM&p=amg&sql=B134431 .John.
