Re: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs
haha, nice, I stand corrected. On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Odeluga, Ken ken.odel...@dowjones.com wrote: I personally will be buying it. But then I am old. Ken -Original Message- From: David Powers [mailto:cybo...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 November 2011 17:11 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs Hi Mike, I'm trying to figure out what you are saying here? People don't buy mix CD's really any more, as far as I know, so surely that is correct. But, why would be people be unlikely to consume it in any manner? I would personally be curious to hear it, as I think D May will always be a great DJ. ~David On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 9:03 PM, kuszyn...@gmail.com kuszyn...@gmail.com wrote: thanks for writing up on this. unfortunately, most of us won't be buying it, in fact, few of are likely to consume it in any manner. I generally suspect his last rants at the monetizable DEMF's are the last peeps we hear from this deeply valuable man. Celebrity or not, one of our few folk. -- -Mike
Re: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs
thanks for writing up on this. unfortunately, most of us won't be buying it, in fact, few of are likely to consume it in any manner. I generally suspect his last rants at the monetizable DEMF's are the last peeps we hear from this deeply valuable man. Celebrity or not, one of our few folk. On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Marsel van der Wielen mar...@nomorewords.net wrote: brother of the unknown writer? we had two license requests for this one - but really couldn't make any sense of titles and mp3 samples so still unknown yes :-) Op 24-11-2011 19:32, Odeluga, Ken schreef: Some interesting stuff on the tracklist. Including the ‘unknowns’. Ken http://www.discogs.com/Derrick-May-Heartbeat-Presents-Mixed-By-Derrick-May-Air-Vol2/release/3243802 -- -Mike
Re: (313) Dan Sicko
Donate. That's all. His book rests confidently on my shelf. On Aug 27, 2011 3:32 AM, ja...@iridite.com ja...@iridite.com wrote: I dont mind saying i shed a tear last night when I was reading the Blog. Jason On 27 August 2011 01:31, maxphi...@gmail.com wrote: Gutted, spreading the word. Thank you for letting us know. m50 At 2011.08.26 16:49, Otto wrote: It's a sign of how much he means when a bunch of Technotourists many timezones away, who would see Dan maybe once a year, are looking at their monitors stunned, shocked and saddened, as if this were happening to someone we'd see every week. Still at a loss for words, Otto PS It's heartening to see so many people contributing to Dan's care, please visit the site and donate if you haven't already. On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Greg Earle ea...@isolar.dyndns.org wrote: is very, very ill. We all know how much Dan means to our community. Please ... if you can. http://www.gofundme.com/DanSicko Background: http://mattsicko.blogspot.com/ ;-( - Greg
Re: (313) Moodymann track id?
I don't mean the track, I meant the pad sound, like the individual melodic element that is a theme throughout the track. It's got a cloudy ethereal feel but very measured and slightly clinical. On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 4:58 AM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry mate, but that doesn't sound like Plastikman at all. 2011/7/20 kuszyn...@gmail.com kuszyn...@gmail.com: Don't know the track but the pad sounds like a plastikman sound On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Michael Lees mikelees...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone know the track playing here? Is it moodymann? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz68UZdcXUo -Mike -- -Mike -- http://soundcloud.com/w1b0 | http://network.technobass.net/profile/w1b0 | http://twitter.com/w1b0 -- -- -Mike
Re: (313) Moodymann track id?
Don't know the track but the pad sounds like a plastikman sound On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Michael Lees mikelees...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone know the track playing here? Is it moodymann? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz68UZdcXUo -Mike -- -Mike
Re: (313) list admin test
Anyway to make the list reply to list instead of reply-to-all? Makes emails cleaner. maybe it's a client issue not a mail format issue. On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 9:49 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.comwrote: Now you're just being silly. On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 9:42 AM, telepat...@comcast.net wrote: Tom Pipecock Cox - Original Message - From: kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com To: trm therealmxyzp...@comcast.net Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 9:58:11 AM Subject: Re: (313) list admin test Wise guy. I just changed the ezmlm editor file which is a scary proposition. We'll see how it goes. On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 8:48 AM, trm therealmxyzp...@comcast.net wrote: No shit? j On 5/16/2011 9:32 AM, kent williams wrote: beezlebub If you're curious, the EZMLM software on hypereal has been updated, and I'm checking on the operation of the naughty words filter. -- -Mike
Re: (313) NPR on Chicago Footwork music
hardstyle shuffle is my fave On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:43 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to all for proving 2 things: Yes white people have originated competetive dance culture. And omg are they awful. On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com wrote: There is the French Tecktonik dance style too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbzYXWLVU3o - P On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 7:54 PM, james.hurl...@utoronto.ca james.hurl...@utoronto.ca wrote: Even more fascinating, I can't think of any analogous dance culture amongst white people. I remember seeing groups of kids doing weird dance battles to crappy hardcore in Alexanderplatz over the last couple of years. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfSIcx1YgVE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqU21JF2E3w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dPuuvvKjLA -- -Mike
(313) Visiting London Through Sunday
Hey Group, Are any of you in London? Do you have anything to recommend to do there through Sunday afternoon? Thanks, shoot me off list if so deemed. Mike
Re: (313) Classic 12 for sale, good/safe site or not?
I think gemm is pretty legit. I bought a rare cd there and got it fine. Just watch who you work with, just like on discogs. On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Phil Dawson flip...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi all, I just found loads of classic 12 for sale here http://offworldt.gemm.com been looking mostly for Moodymann KDJ and Theo stuff. Did anyone use it before? Is it a good/safe place to buy 12 etc? Thanks for your help :) -- -Mike
Re: (313) vinyl record stores with iPhone apps?
so you would browse within iPhone, but it would be delivered by email and you'd have to load through iTunes when you get home? On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote: So, Beatport has a pretty slick iPhone app, but frak Beatport because I want vinyl and they're shmucks anyway. Does anybody know of any vinyl record stores that have iPhone apps? Juno really needs to get one if you ask me. -- peace, frank http://www.deejaycountzero.com http://www.infinitestatemachine.com -- -Mike
Re: (313) My radio show last night -- DJ Mix
I'm really digging this mix. Aaron's music is awesome. Not much to say that hasn't been said on this forum well by others, but my point is to say thanks Kent for sharing and doing the mix. Added to my mix rotation for sure. On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 7:25 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: I start out with 11 tracks by/featuring Aaron Carl, then go zooming off several directions at once as usual...I always want to see all my friends at once go bang. http://music.cornwarning.com/2010/10/10/1882/ http://www.cornwarning.com/chaircrusher/Chaircrusher-2010-10-09-KRUI-Mix.mp3 -- -Mike
Re: (313) Aarron Carl has passed
I have very little outpouring left that has not been said, but something I heard from family used to heartache is life is for the living so let the breath of those who lived inside of you breathe stronger and live more willfully than you knew you could On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Greg Earle ea...@isolar.dyndns.org wrote: On Sept 30, 2010, at 7:57 AM, Fred Heutte ph...@sunlightdata.com wrote: Nobody who was there will ever forget Aaron-Carl's truly triumphant performance on the main stage at the festival, and his shout outs to his family and friends. He had an unquenchable drive to express himself and a gift for making people feel good. That year (2005) I bought a VIP ticket, and was standing backstage listening to the end of Aaron-Carl's set. He finished and came off the stage to the backstage area, where he was surrounded by his family, all wearing A-C t-shirts! I found that moment incredibly heartwarming and touching, and - thank goodness - had mentioned it to Aaron-Carl in messages I sent him since then. It was definitely one of my most memorable Detroit Moments™ and I wanted him to know about it. I am deeply saddened at his sudden passing. It just blows my mind that he could be diagnosed, have a biopsy and pass away in the space of a week. That just ain't right. My deepest sympathies to his family friends. I wish I could teleport in for his funeral but I will be on a plane to Idaho that morning. (Anything else I could say has been made redundant by Cliff Thomas' post; he wrote a much better eulogy than I could ever dream of. Thanks, Cliff.) - Greg -- -Mike
Re: (313) The Scene plays Tour De France 1983
Funny enough, never heard this Electric Shock track. what a freaking jam. On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 7:27 PM, gj log...@cox.net wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EHf1NNbaW4 ^^^ I think we got a bit better as time went on... -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 3:52 PM To: gj Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) The Scene plays Tour De France 1983 I think they look adorable! On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 3:38 PM, gj log...@cox.net wrote: wow... we really looked like that??? smh... -Original Message- From: Greg Earle [mailto:ea...@isolar.dyndns.org] Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 12:21 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) The Scene plays Tour De France 1983 HUAH! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHGQRusZLjU - Greg -- -Mike
Re: (313) New interviews
(Here comes some flame bait) And this is why I really like Jeff Mills. Frankly, I know very few electronic music people who look at things as producers. They become producers after djing, which to me isn't musical, it's beat making. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:56 PM, wojciech wojtek@gmail.com wrote: -With Rick Wilhite: ...The whole entertainment industry has created people that really have no passion doing what we do, as a producer, as a remixer, as a DJ. All these new websites and everything have totally annihilated the industry. Nowadays anybody can just do overnight what took somebody else ten years to really become sufficient enough or experienced enough to do. The industry is in total shambles—from the pressing plant to the mastering plant, the people that make the labels and the jackets, to the actual artists themselves. All of that is totally gone because most people don't believe music is worth more than a dollar. If that. http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1245 -With Jeff Mills: ...In my generation we learned differently from the way most DJs are learning now. Most of us came into DJing from being musicians, so when we thought about tracks to play, we were thinking about song structure – we had musical structure to refer to. I’m just trying to create a much more balanced view of what DJing is all about. http://www.junodownload.com/plus/2010/09/03/interview-jeff-mills/ -- -Mike
Re: (313) New interviews
I agree with you on that - my own perspective focuses more on the sound design and point of origin of the seed that was planted for electronic music inside oneself. Not that I have necessarily a deep amount of successful credibility (I did a self-released 12 and album, am not terribly devoted to externalizing my recordings), but I always approached electronic music from the synthesizer, the sound making machine, and not from the record. I suppose I started wanting to make techno before I heard techno. Alternatively, my musical interests are probably at least 50% outside of techno/dance music, and fall into industrial, noise, ambient, and a lot of what I think of as some of the most special UK stuff from the 90's like orbital, orb, fsol, underworld. Dancey music, yes. After these 4, doesn't even make sense to consider drivel like min_s something real. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com wrote: On 22 Sep 2010, at 14:58, kuszyn...@gmail.com wrote: (Here comes some flame bait) And this is why I really like Jeff Mills. Frankly, I know very few electronic music people who look at things as producers. They become producers after djing, which to me isn't musical, it's beat making. Not sure if that's really correct, you still have to understand structure and key changes when DJing... m -- -Mike
Re: (313) New interviews
You are right, I jumped from my feeling of Mills as having a very musical, tone and synth oriented style, and tried to describe more of a mental philosophy, at least as I see it. Mills obvious first public success and work was in the dj/radio department. I'm glad, however, that I touched upon the vein of dj does not have to equal musician (and frankly, plenty of great musicians make horrible dj's) On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:54 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: Wasn't Mills DJing long before he began making records? Or am I misunderstanding the connection you're making? I started making music long before I ever tried to DJ, but it was more lack of opportunity and not having $1200 to drop on 1200s and a mixer. Somehow picking up a synth for a couple hunderd bucks every so often was more managable. People that DJ first often have an intuitive grasp of what makes a good dance track. Whether that starts them down the path to artistic excellence is another question. One does have to attain some minimal musical knowledge along the way though. I people who have released records who are functionally tone-deaf. I've actually 'music-doctored' a few tracks for them, where I had to tell them how to get their chords and basslines in the same general key, tune the vocal samples, etc. And of course, they're way more successful than I am. And I have 2 years of college as a music major. There is a big difference between DJs who start producing, and DJs who hire ghost producers to make tracks for them because they're too busy or coked up to learn how to do it properly themselves. That some weak sh*t, and it's remarkably common, especially among the big room techno and progressive DJs. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:58 AM, kuszyn...@gmail.com kuszyn...@gmail.com wrote: (Here comes some flame bait) And this is why I really like Jeff Mills. Frankly, I know very few electronic music people who look at things as producers. They become producers after djing, which to me isn't musical, it's beat making. -- -Mike
Re: (313) Phonopsia - Five Note Leo Groove
Sounds great on my 824's, nice vibe, and pleasant to chill to. Would like to get some more kick drum shuffle or activity in the bass line for variety. Fine piece just on its own, as is though. For some reason I am thinking of some of the less heard Omar S vinyl when I hear this. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Tristan Watkins phonop...@googlemail.com wrote: Hey y'all. I did a new track quickly the other night that I don't hate. I've put it up in 320kbps mp3 if you fancy giving it a listen. I also rambled a lot about how it came to be, if reading that should coincide with the way that you prefer to descend circularly. http://www.phonopsia.co.uk/index.php/five-note-leo-groove/ Cheers, Tristan
Re: (313) completely off topic: music transcription software?
I assume that whatever the software that claims to do something like this would only be able to detect a single track/part melody - i.e. a single line of strings, but not strings and beats, and certainly not a whole track at once. ya know? I don't know of such a tool, regardless. On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote: I have a really strange, borderline stupid, question. Does there exist a software package that will take input from a microphone or other instrument and automatically detect the pitch, note length, rhythm etc. of a, let's say whistled or sang musical piece? Did that question even make sense? I am not talking about a sequencer that you can input the notes, but rather a music writing software of sorts. -- peace, frank http://www.deejaycountzero.com http://www.infinitestatemachine.com
Re: (313) Sade_Morning Bird (Andrew Duke edit)
I love maximum effects. :p On Thursday, June 17, 2010, Robin Pinning robin.pinn...@me.com wrote: I really like that Andrew. I'm not familiar with the original but from the clip I've heard it's a big rework. I'd be tempted to spin the intro out even longer before the vocal bits come in for maximum effect. robin... On 17 Jun 2010, at 12:19, Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks new email address wrote: Hello, 313. Have done a deep edit of Sade's Morning Bird (I'm a big Sade fan). It's available in full to stream or download here if anyone is interested: http://soundcloud.com/andrewdukecognitionaudio/sade_morningbird_andrewduke-edit Feedback appreciated. Thanks. Take care. Andrew out now: Andrew Duke's Maiko on Nice Nasty with Orlando Voorn, Solab, Joe Babylon, Jay Riordan remixes -- http://soundcloud.com/andrewdukecognitionaudio http://myspace.com/andrewduke
Re: (313) Acid Didj @ Paxahau
It should have been clear that my point was with the intention of stopping the potential argument/flamewar/insult chain. No one needs that in a mailing list. As Kent said, (even though I only know you from your public/musician persona), you seem like a swell, passionate, and intelligent person. That should be clear. On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 12:47 AM, telepat...@comcast.net wrote: Fine with me. Don't even say thanks for sharing the fotos. ciao! fG - Original Message - From: kuszyn...@gmail.com To: telepat...@comcast.net Cc: cpe1704...@gmail.com, 313 Mailinglist List 313@hyperreal.org, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com Sent: Friday, June 4, 2010 10:46:42 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: (313) Acid Didj @ Paxahau not sure who the admin is on this list, but this thread should be CLOSED. bye On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 8:09 PM, telepat...@comcast.net wrote: Well you are entitled to your opinion of me Mr. cpe1704...@gmail.com but from the evidence that I witnessed firsthand Moritz von Oswald, who suffered a STROKE fairly recently was making less demands on the Paxahau crew than the Booka Shade organization. FYI, I don't hate Booka Shade or Tom Cox because I don't know them, nor do I care to know or be around them or people like them. Genesis P-Orridge is a whole other bowl of NUTS. telepathic regards, whoever you are fG - Original Message - From: cpe1704...@gmail.com To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com Cc: 313 Mailinglist List 313@hyperreal.org, telepat...@comcast.net Sent: Friday, June 4, 2010 3:49:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: Re: (313) Acid Didj @ Paxahau it seems like Fred is really great at making enemies. He hates Tom Cox, he hates Booka Shade, he hates Genesis P-Orridge, I'm sure there are others. Fred seems like just as big a trash talker as Tom. On Jun 4, 2010 3:35pm, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote: Call me curious but i want to know the story behind this comment: Well, once again I didn't get a nice foto portrait of DELIA because she was too busy dealing with those douchebags BOOKA SHADE. I've never even heard their music and I can't stand them. I despise high-maintenance artists that think the world revolves around them. http://www.flickr.com/photos/dangerfellini/4666548756/in/set-72157624071321055/ On 4 jun 2010, at 16:04, telepat...@comcast.net wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dangerfellini/sets/72157624071321055/ I can hear Tom Cox complaining already telepathic regards, the kooky scientist
Re: (313) Acid Didj @ Paxahau
not sure who the admin is on this list, but this thread should be CLOSED. bye On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 8:09 PM, telepat...@comcast.net wrote: Well you are entitled to your opinion of me Mr. cpe1704...@gmail.com but from the evidence that I witnessed firsthand Moritz von Oswald, who suffered a STROKE fairly recently was making less demands on the Paxahau crew than the Booka Shade organization. FYI, I don't hate Booka Shade or Tom Cox because I don't know them, nor do I care to know or be around them or people like them. Genesis P-Orridge is a whole other bowl of NUTS. telepathic regards, whoever you are fG - Original Message - From: cpe1704...@gmail.com To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com Cc: 313 Mailinglist List 313@hyperreal.org, telepat...@comcast.net Sent: Friday, June 4, 2010 3:49:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: Re: (313) Acid Didj @ Paxahau it seems like Fred is really great at making enemies. He hates Tom Cox, he hates Booka Shade, he hates Genesis P-Orridge, I'm sure there are others. Fred seems like just as big a trash talker as Tom. On Jun 4, 2010 3:35pm, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote: Call me curious but i want to know the story behind this comment: Well, once again I didn't get a nice foto portrait of DELIA because she was too busy dealing with those douchebags BOOKA SHADE. I've never even heard their music and I can't stand them. I despise high-maintenance artists that think the world revolves around them. http://www.flickr.com/photos/dangerfellini/4666548756/in/set-72157624071321055/ On 4 jun 2010, at 16:04, telepat...@comcast.net wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dangerfellini/sets/72157624071321055/ I can hear Tom Cox complaining already telepathic regards, the kooky scientist
Re: (313) DEMF Post-Op Thoughts
Thanks for the review folks. Any more reflections are highly welcome, at least from me, as one of those couldn't-make-it-this-year folks. On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Mr. jp j...@phreak.net wrote: I second that it was not a great weekend overall, though sunday was a great day at the fest, could stand against any other one day at DEMFs I have known, of 6 for me. Overall, it was still a whole lot better than '06, but that was the year Paxahau took over the fest last minute. Sequence of performers, and stages the performers play on, still is terrible, there's little flow conducive to dancing or even chilling [why was Moritz on Red Bull, and not Beatport, for instance]- Red Bull is like a spring break party stage, Beatport is great for chillin with the nice grass and open view of the river]. Afterparties were just above average too. Detroit Odyssey film fest on friday was incredible, the J Dilla movie was so inspring, missed the first film tho [cycles of the machine or whatever] Then Timeline [w/Mad Mike] played a very soulful shorter set, more on the jazz tip with lots of bright, ambitious sax solos, perfect ending, just great. The Omar-s party later that night was so-so, disappointing after the raves last year, ended early after 3am. Sat. day at the fest was disappointing, Scion were good, tho muted, but the sound/setting didn't do them justice. My top were Orlando Voorn, Model 500 live, Shake, Rolando, ESP, Starski and Clutch, Larry Heard and Kirk Degiorgio at the fest. Rob Hood was too much mhs for me, but solid. Never saw him at Metroplex 25 year, or Sims either. DMX Krew never played at the afterparty at Blondie's sat. night [wasted night]. Metroplex party had logistical problems, only got to hear Sergeon, Stingray, Assault, and Juan, still a good time tho, solid party, lots of jitters and jukers showing how it's done. Monday was a big disappointment at the fest due to rain cutting off sets in the afternoon, and mediocre sets too. Model 500 was awesome, mostly for the flow of the classics, some reworking to make them snap, some hip hop courtesy of MC Nick Speed, who has a forthcoming album on UR. The visuals were straight out of star trek, the whole main stage audience was jumpin. Monday night I went to Oslo for more jukin/jittin, was not as good a vibe as Metroplex, Assault spun mostly the same set, still fun. I'd do this weekend again but skip sat. at the fest, and the afterparty at Blondie's. More on the trip from my Demented Scrawlings From DEMF-twisted tales from the underbelly of Detroit, later. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com wrote: In case anyone is interested, my $0.02, a few highlights from the long weekend: Overall this was just a so-so fest for me. A few standouts here and there but I wasn't blown away by the majority of the acts, but definitely plenty of fun moments throughout. As usual the afterparties were generally more entertaining than anything going on at the festival proper. Festival - Mark Ernestus was great, but I could still hear sound bleeding from the stage behind the amphitheater, which was a bit distracting. Enjoyed the reggae but as usual no one around to hear it at that time of day. It's unfortunate with paxahau banishing all the locals underground to the land of terrible sound quality, but caught a few sets that were quite good (Shakir, R. Hood, etc). Larry Heard was a lot of fun and was great to hear something more mellow for a Sunday afternoon. Inner City was fun, probably the best way for me to describe it. Beatport Stage - Pardon my hatoraide but I couldn't listen to more than about 30 seconds of that nonsense at any point over three days. Thought the music was 90% junk. A lot of people on that stage thought they were -very- cool, though. One of the only stages that each performer needed to bring a 30 person entourage along with them to populate the performance area. Lame. Redbull Stage - As I've found over last few years there's always something entertaining going on in that direction, even if I'm not a fan of the music it seems like everyone is having a pretty good time over there. Afterparties - Center Street Social - Got shut down around 4-ish before I really got into it. I never did get the whole story with all the other drama associated with that party, and along with the whole police thing made Saturday was a miss for me all around. Sunday - Interdimensional Transmission Party - Great venue, and an awesome crew. They've thrown some of my favorite demf-related parties (Cannonball Run) and I had an amazing time. The main room was a sweatbox though, but aside from that quite fun music and a great atmosphere. Metroplex - Didn't catch it, and none of my friends did, have yet to hear how it went. Old Miami - Apparently the place to be now? I went to it a few years ago for the early morning party and had an amazing time. Was a lot of fun,
Re: (313) demf.com
Not sure about any of that, but presumably Carl Craig hasn't gotten any of that $14,099.93 that he's looking for. On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Robin Pinning robin.pinn...@me.com wrote: I just noticed this too. Mischievous. robin... On 26 May 2010, at 18:55, Arturo Lopez wrote: http://www.demf.com/ Is this new or have I just not visited the site in years? I accidentally typed that into my address bar (instead of paxahau.com) to check the movement schedule and got the court document. Probably several years late to that but thought I'd share on off chance i wasnt. -Arturo
(313) festivals of the summer?
http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1185 So I'm either blind as a bat, of resident advisor didn't mention DEMF as a summer festival?
Re: (313) festivals of the summer?
How convnint On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Matt Kane's Brain mkb.dirty...@gmail.com wrote: It says June 2010 festivals at this moment. DEMF clearly ends at the stroke of June. On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 20:07, kuszyn...@gmail.com kuszyn...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1185 So I'm either blind as a bat, of resident advisor didn't mention DEMF as a summer festival? -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim - mkbatwerk ; y! - mkb218 ; gtalk - mkb.dirtyorg I need your sounds! http://nynex.hydrogenproject.com
Re: (313) Techno Rebels 2nd Ed.
I just hope it talks more about European and Brooklyn minimal. You don't hear enough about that stuff. On Thursday, April 1, 2010, robin ro...@fivetones.org wrote: If you've not read Dan's book then it's a good time to change that. I wonder what's new? http://theghostlystore.com/products/techno-rebels robin...
Re: (313) loveland
so 10,000 square inches is about 70 square feet, and at $10,000 that's about $143 per square foot. That's not quite manhattan prices, but it surely ain't a bargain. (by the way, I get that this is a charity/cultural/change the way things work program - they do however market it as 'owning' that inch) On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 2:41 AM, Philip McGarva philipmcga...@optusnet.com.au wrote: check out this project for people to buy a square inch (or more...) of detroit http://makeloveland.com/
Re: (313) AUX88
I'm just a white dude from Poland, so what do I know, but I'm not offended by the idea, whatever it may be. On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 4:50 AM, Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com wrote: On 24 Mar 2010, at 18:03, Odeluga, Ken wrote: It's also not clear what Black Tokyo Project is - and to be honest there is something about the name which to me, seems dumb. What is it? Music? Art? Blacks In Tokyo? Why 'Black' anyway? Isn't it about Black Culture meeting the Sci-Fi culture of Japan? m
Re: (313) Kenny Larkin talks gear talk to Carl Craig
Score. I love this stuff. Even if they're just screwing around, old, collecting checkstubs, and talking themselves up. In the end, it's more about jealousy, I wish I had the time, guts, and commitment to run a real studio. On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:57 PM, robin ro...@fivetones.org wrote: Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmzgCD9CMuE Nice if you take an interest in these things. robin...
Re: (313) Kenny Larkin talks gear talk to Carl Craig
Going further, I think the youtube user lark830 is either kenny larkin himself or someone who is REALLY obsessed with him. On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 8:27 PM, kuszyn...@gmail.com kuszyn...@gmail.com wrote: Score. I love this stuff. Even if they're just screwing around, old, collecting checkstubs, and talking themselves up. In the end, it's more about jealousy, I wish I had the time, guts, and commitment to run a real studio. On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:57 PM, robin ro...@fivetones.org wrote: Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmzgCD9CMuE Nice if you take an interest in these things. robin...
Re: (313) Music advice (online)
That's a good list of relatively recent releases that mark some significant acclaim from 313 style artists. Apparently a sole fan, I also really enjoyed Jeff Mills - One Man Spaceship (though I had to import it from Japan on CD). It really to me is the peak of Jeff-Mills-as-crazy-ambient-non-techno-techno-producer, and the studio work is breath-freaking-taking. On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 6:18 PM, David Barna barna.da...@gmail.com wrote: I stopped following this sort of music actively around 03 or 04 and have been looking for new things to listen to as well. I've actually been into reissues more than anything else lately and I've been checking out a lot of old live sets and such. Here are some things you may want to check out, pretty obvious picks I guess... http://www.discogs.com/Kenny-Larkin-Keys-Strings-Tambourines/master/19614 http://www.discogs.com/James-Pennington-Presents-Dark-Energy-Collided-Energy/master/23639 http://www.discogs.com/Robert-Hood-Minimal-Nation/release/1812346 http://www.discogs.com/Anthony-Shake-Shakir-Frictionalism-1994-2009/master/207247 http://www.discogs.com/Kenny-Larkin-The-Chronicles/master/55839 Michael Lees Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:07:24 -0800 Dear 313, So, I was looking for something interesting to listen to a few days ago and was really stuck. I needed advice which is why I turn to you. I was actually on the list many years ago (around 2002-05, I think), I do recognize some names who are still here. Anyway, since my departure I've swapped the rainy days in the UK for the constant 30 degree heat of Singapore. Unfortunately while the weather here is much better, the music scene... well, there is no (good) music scene. It's really very depressing. I realized the best way for me to locate some good music was to come back here and ask the friendly people of 313. I've been downloading the bleep podcasts, which are great. I've got a few beats in space ones also. Any important albums from the past 5 years I might have missed :) -Mike
Re: (313) Croydon Is New Detroit
I know I've commented on this before, and not to be snarky, but how does everyone feel about techno-electronic journalism these days? as an undergrad at the Univ of Chicago, I was exposed to and guilty of ridiculous language, metaphors, and concept mashing, but about the only legible writing I find is on Kent's blog and infinite state machine. Does everyone have to sound like an NYU grad student to be allowed to write about urban electronic music scenes? Pardon my persistent tone of criticism, I also have a glass of wine in me. Also, I don't necessarily disagree with all the author's points. I'm just tired of a certain style of electronic music content generation and re-generation by the brooklyn rastafarian class (where I live). Aside from all this, I'm certainly in seeking of new stimulation and activity, but not seeking enough to devote myself to set time aside and do something about it. Now where's my glass of scotch. On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Robert Taylor rdtay...@channel4.co.uk wrote: http://dontpaniconline.com/magazine/croydon-the-new-detroit Discuss. Heheheheheh. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
Re: (313) Nostrilgic: old skool jungle and hardcore mix (Luis Aguilera)
FYI - the link posted was an embarassing 96k mp3. Below is a self hosted page with 320k mp3 of the mix. Definitely better - straight from vinyl and allen heath mixer. 320k mp3: http://www.planerecordings.com/lga/LuisAguilera_Nostrilgic.mp3 site: http://www.planerecordings.com/lga/ peace! On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:38 PM, kuszyn...@gmail.com kuszyn...@gmail.com wrote: My old friend, Luis Aguilera who ran the late 90's rave/event promotion company in Chicago (Full Spectrum), is a published author, and has been DJing for over 20 years, digitized a really nice mix recorded in 2002 of old skool 92-94 hardcore/jungle from his of-significant-size record collection. Saving the relevance/irrelevance of this to list, I know a lot of you old heads will great identify with this, so here goes. Some words at http://lga.podomatic.com/ direct link at http://lga.podomatic.com/enclosure/2010-02-22T17_38_29-08_00.mp3 Peep it, and as his own phrase on the site says If not, don't hate, just walk away. All that side, this is a nice, fun, well made mix. Tracklist: 01 Trip II the Moon – Acen ::: 02 Breakin’ Free – Slipmatt ::: 03 Eclipse – Adam F ::: 04 Euphoria – The House Crew ::: 05 Shining in Da Darkness – Nookie ::: 06 Darkage – DJ Solo ::: 07 Fkin’ Hardcore – DJ Red Alert ::: 08 You are the One – DJ Red Alert ::: 09 Ruff – DJ Red Alert Mike Slammer ::: 10 Sub Dub – Seduction ::: 11 The Chopper – DJ Hype ::: 12 Pressure – Rachel Wallace ::: 13 In Complete Darkness – Slipmatt Remix ::: 14 Bass Speaker – Aphrodite Claudio ::: 15 Feel That Feelin’ – Aphrodite Claudio
Re: (313) food for thought -- new blood?
I think he lives in Brooklyn On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 3:34 AM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote: Not really strictly techno but Jimmy Edgar is still young, he made some great tunes. On 3 mrt 2010, at 16:26, Denise Dalphond wrote: Yes! Seth! Absolutely. Geographical boundaries and music - so interesting. :) Well maybe you are Denise! :) But only if you want to include someone from nearby rather than from the city... Seth Troxler is from Kalamazoo. He will be twenty three in a few weeks, according to this: http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?887 -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/
(313) detonated in detroit school
http://www.salon.com/wires/u.s./2010/03/03/D9E7868G0_us_detroit_school_bomb_explodes/index.html unfortunate
Re: (313) food for thought -- new blood?
The leave and move to Brooklyn On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Thor Teague thor.tea...@gmail.com wrote: -- heck, Mojo is still alive, This statement strikes me as ironic. Does Detroit need new blood? Who is producing/DJ'ing that is under the age of 25? How fertile are the grounds right now for any up and comers to break through in Detroit anyway? What happens when the newcomers run out? Food for discussion/thought.
Re: (313) Been Reading...now speaking...talking about the future (of fbk that is:)
COMMENTS IN BOLD BELOW
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:16 PM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote:
To me, computers are good for two things:
First of all, any track that uses FM synthesis, which means any track
with a Yamaha DX-7 or related synths, uses a computer for some of the
sound generation. A sampler is also a computer, and early house
already used samples, though Detroit techno less so. So computers have
always, in some way, been a part of house and techno.
However, the sounds were indeed all mixed down in the analog realm,
and I agree that can create a different feel to the music; it takes a
lot of work to mix down your stuff on computers and get a similar
feeling. However, I do believe it can be done!
I think computers in music are great for 3 things:
1. Besides FM synthesis and sampling, computers are necessary for
newer synthesis and signal processing techniques, such as granular
synthesis, which require digital processing, and can sound really good
when done well. Traditional 313 techno does not use these
techniques, since they weren't commonly available when the sound was
first created, but there is no reason they can't be incorporated into
a Detroit sound. Also, FM synthesis seems to be fairly common in
Detroit techno. Although mnml has resulted in a lot of stupid stuff,
I do think it is nice that newer synthesis and DSP techniques have
been accepted into house and techno, although they aren't often used
in a creative, not to mention musical, manner.
2. Making electronic music when you are poor... the cost of making
electronic music via hardware is prohibitively expensive
unfortunately. I would love to use gear but some
3. Creating musical forms and processes that would be too labor
intensive to create by hand, such as generative and probability based
structures. There is also possibility working with things like
artificial neural networks and programs trained to respond to user
input in unpredictable ways. This clearly isn't part of traditional
Detroit techno, but again, I'd argue that you could apply such
techniques to the Detroit sound and get extremely interesting results.
In fact, I'd argue that anybody who wants to make futuristic sounds
should really focus on this area, especially because you could control
analog gear with these techniques and so still produce a very warm
classic sound while doing some cutting edge things with the structure
and musical content Just don't forget to keep it soulful and funky!
;-]
Most people use computers for convenience I'd say, and I think it's
kind of funny that people would use plugins to do traditional
synthesis when they could afford proper analog gear. If I could afford
gear, I'd probably record MIDI performances into a computer and use
them to trigger both analog and digital sources, then mix down on
analog gear.
I will say, I have grown very tired of the work flows created in
current digital software, so even though I'm using all digital, I've
started to record my keyboard performances on MIDI a lot more, which
makes it much easier to get that funky feel which can be a pain to
create by hand in a digital environment. It's amazing how good even a
digital plugin can sound when you actually use a human performance as
the basis of the part instead of just a grid!
THANK YOU - AGREED, CAN SOMEONE JUST PERFORM LIKE A MUSICIAN FOR ONCE
OTHER THAN CARL CRAIG?
I also spend a lot of time playing piano; it's extremely helpful to
turn off the computer and spend time making music with an actual
instrument that becomes a part of your body... There is a spiritual
aspect to music that you simply can't experience if you don't
participate in some type of physical music making.
~David
DAVID - THANK YOU FOR BEING YOU - I APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT INTO WHAT I
PERCEIVE AS MY MAILING LIST EXPERIENCE, AND I HOPEFULLY DO NOT SPEAK
IN VAIN FOR OTHERS AS WELL. I THINK ALL US OLD SOULS SEEK TO FIND A
VALID OUTLET FOR THE VOICE WE ALL KNOW IS INSIDE YOU
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 12:38 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com
wrote:
All hardware is The Detroit Way(tm), and one can't argue with results.
Virtually ('Virtually'?) every track that defines Detroit Techno and
House music was made with hardware synths and mixed down outside the
computer. As it happens, prior to roughly 1998, a computer was of
limited utility for anything other than MIDI sequencing.
The sound of Detroit techno arose at least in part from the way
working with the hardware influences the aesthetic choices made. The
one measure drum loop is a limitation of Roland Drum Machines* so
Techno mostly involves one measure rhythm loops. Within that
limitation, producers soon used the tools available to them (volume
controls for individual sounds, sound parameters, write-mode real-time
step programming) to make something static come alive.
I use a mix of hardware and software, and end up doing the mix in the
computer. That's
Re: (313) D25: Detroit Twenty Five
wow. Now is the beach weren't a reason to go, this sure is. that's pretty incredible. Hopefully they make some good cash from the event. On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 2:51 AM, Andy Mitchell a...@yokoso.co.nz wrote: http://www.backspinpromo.com/d25.html (Sorry if this has already been posted. I've been too busy to pay close attention of late...)
Re: (313) Been Reading...now speaking...talking about the future (of fbk that is:)
Now that's a good response.
It's all in the mix down.
On Thursday, February 25, 2010, Thor Teague thor.tea...@gmail.com wrote:
I think this whole discussion is a)tired and b)a fat load of horseshxt.
But I will say, perhaps tongue-in-cheekly, that I just can't get
around a hardware mixdown. Other than that I'm fine with whatever, but
putting it through a Mackie seems to make all the difference. A close
second to that mixer would be hardware compression.
I mixed one of my tracks a couple years ago then re-edited it
digitally and bounced it. The mix just drops dead. It's really
telling. I can play those two examples for anybody and they have only
to listen with their own two earballs to hear the difference.
On 2/25/10, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote:
All hardware is The Detroit Way(tm), and one can't argue with results.
Virtually ('Virtually'?) every track that defines Detroit Techno and
House music was made with hardware synths and mixed down outside the
computer. As it happens, prior to roughly 1998, a computer was of
limited utility for anything other than MIDI sequencing.
The sound of Detroit techno arose at least in part from the way
working with the hardware influences the aesthetic choices made. The
one measure drum loop is a limitation of Roland Drum Machines* so
Techno mostly involves one measure rhythm loops. Within that
limitation, producers soon used the tools available to them (volume
controls for individual sounds, sound parameters, write-mode real-time
step programming) to make something static come alive.
I use a mix of hardware and software, and end up doing the mix in the
computer. That's just what I've evolved into using over the years. I
still have nearly every synth drum machine I've ever bought, and got
my latest analog synth in 2008.
That being said, I think it is very possible to make good music
without the hardware, and in fact many people who make tracks simply
can't afford a full-on hardware studio. Software synths are free to
cheap; a proper modern analog synth costs a minimum of $300-400, a
TR909 -- if you can find one -- is $1000 or more. A usable laptop is
$600, and sufficient software is free to cheap (or stolen).
If you don't like how all-computer productions sound, you can spend
the multiple thousands of dollars to equip yourself with 'real' gear**
or you could learn to get the sound you want out of the computer. The
production techniques required for working in the computer are
different than working with outboard hardware.
In the end it's always what your'e able to do with the gear more than
the gear itself. Whatever inspires you or feels comfortable should
your guide, not what anyone thinks that you 'should' be using.
*You can use drum loops longer than one measure on Roland drum
machines, but it isn't the easiest or most natural way to work.
**My rule of thumb about buying external gear -- if it's just a
computer on the inside, I'd rather save my money and use my computer.
A lot of external synths -- e.g. Nord, Elektron Machine Drum, Alesis
Micron -- are just computers in a fancy box. They may be useful for
many reasons, but they don't do anything your computer can't, at least
insofar as sound is concerned.
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Kevin Kennedy the...@gmail.com wrote:
As a side note, I have gone back to using hardware, and there will be
results to post for everyone soon...
(313) Nostrilgic: old skool jungle and hardcore mix (Luis Aguilera)
My old friend, Luis Aguilera who ran the late 90's rave/event promotion company in Chicago (Full Spectrum), is a published author, and has been DJing for over 20 years, digitized a really nice mix recorded in 2002 of old skool 92-94 hardcore/jungle from his of-significant-size record collection. Saving the relevance/irrelevance of this to list, I know a lot of you old heads will great identify with this, so here goes. Some words at http://lga.podomatic.com/ direct link at http://lga.podomatic.com/enclosure/2010-02-22T17_38_29-08_00.mp3 Peep it, and as his own phrase on the site says If not, don't hate, just walk away. All that side, this is a nice, fun, well made mix. Tracklist: 01 Trip II the Moon – Acen ::: 02 Breakin’ Free – Slipmatt ::: 03 Eclipse – Adam F ::: 04 Euphoria – The House Crew ::: 05 Shining in Da Darkness – Nookie ::: 06 Darkage – DJ Solo ::: 07 Fkin’ Hardcore – DJ Red Alert ::: 08 You are the One – DJ Red Alert ::: 09 Ruff – DJ Red Alert Mike Slammer ::: 10 Sub Dub – Seduction ::: 11 The Chopper – DJ Hype ::: 12 Pressure – Rachel Wallace ::: 13 In Complete Darkness – Slipmatt Remix ::: 14 Bass Speaker – Aphrodite Claudio ::: 15 Feel That Feelin’ – Aphrodite Claudio
Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando
I think he's discussed it at a number of ocassions, but my funny spot-that-preset moment was when I bought an $80 Korg x5dr mini half rack rompler synth, and one of the fx/pad sounds was 100% identical to a track on the mills lifelike Japanese album/compilation import. I felt so connected. On Tuesday, February 23, 2010, ohanakin ... ohana...@gmail.com wrote: ok then, what synths does mills use ? On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 5:51 AM, cheater cheater cheate...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I can go on about synths all day. D. On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 02:09, kuszyn...@gmail.com kuszyn...@gmail.com wrote: Mailing lists are an incredibly important part of my communication ritual, and since my job blocks facebook and all other communication websites, i just do my mailing lists on my iphone. Furthermore, as already stated above, it let's me talk to all you old people who actually have something interesting to say about detroit techno and the things that people who like detroit techno like (except for synthesizers, not many of you other than kent talk about synthesizers). On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:51 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: Honestly, I don't think that lack of detailed Otaku-style knowledge is or should be a barrier to entering discussion. Everyone has their own personal reactions and tastes, and as long as they are expressed respectfully I think they'll be treated respectfully. And if not, welcome to the Internet. 313 is too low traffic to be of much use to trolls at this point, though. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 6:33 PM, poivren...@aim.com wrote: It might be low traffic, permanently, but that's OK by me. I get enough traffic as it is. I have over 8000 emails in my Inbox, want to guess how much of a percentage the 313 list makes up of those? I rarely post on here because too often I am dwarfed by the monsters of to no-end of details posters, where I little me, enjoy Detroit techno, grew up going to parties when I think they were first ones that took place in the D, but I have no idea who composed Taxi Driver, how many seasons there were of the New Dance Show, and whose DAT deck Derrick May swiped a copy of a classic Detroit track to call it his own(Or one of those other guys). And when I do post I am normally stomped on for my total and offensive ignorous of the purity of the love of this music. But I watch on the sidelines anyways. I think if there were something to kill this list it is that. If you don't have all the facts, you can't join in the conversation. And this is truely one of the most anal discussion lists out there in regards to talking about a music; an art form. No offence meant. Steve -Original Message- From: kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com To: Odeluga, Ken ken.odel...@dowjones.com Cc: Matt Kane's Brain mkb.dirty...@gmail.com; cheater cheater cheate...@gmail.com; Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com; list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Mon, Feb 22, 2010 4:50 pm Subject: Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Odeluga, Ken ken.odel...@dowjones.com wrote: I'm just suggesting that the non-music trivia seems to make up the bulk of what gets discussed nowadays, that's all.
Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando
Mailing lists are an incredibly important part of my communication ritual, and since my job blocks facebook and all other communication websites, i just do my mailing lists on my iphone. Furthermore, as already stated above, it let's me talk to all you old people who actually have something interesting to say about detroit techno and the things that people who like detroit techno like (except for synthesizers, not many of you other than kent talk about synthesizers). On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:51 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: Honestly, I don't think that lack of detailed Otaku-style knowledge is or should be a barrier to entering discussion. Everyone has their own personal reactions and tastes, and as long as they are expressed respectfully I think they'll be treated respectfully. And if not, welcome to the Internet. 313 is too low traffic to be of much use to trolls at this point, though. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 6:33 PM, poivren...@aim.com wrote: It might be low traffic, permanently, but that's OK by me. I get enough traffic as it is. I have over 8000 emails in my Inbox, want to guess how much of a percentage the 313 list makes up of those? I rarely post on here because too often I am dwarfed by the monsters of to no-end of details posters, where I little me, enjoy Detroit techno, grew up going to parties when I think they were first ones that took place in the D, but I have no idea who composed Taxi Driver, how many seasons there were of the New Dance Show, and whose DAT deck Derrick May swiped a copy of a classic Detroit track to call it his own(Or one of those other guys). And when I do post I am normally stomped on for my total and offensive ignorous of the purity of the love of this music. But I watch on the sidelines anyways. I think if there were something to kill this list it is that. If you don't have all the facts, you can't join in the conversation. And this is truely one of the most anal discussion lists out there in regards to talking about a music; an art form. No offence meant. Steve -Original Message- From: kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com To: Odeluga, Ken ken.odel...@dowjones.com Cc: Matt Kane's Brain mkb.dirty...@gmail.com; cheater cheater cheate...@gmail.com; Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com; list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Mon, Feb 22, 2010 4:50 pm Subject: Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Odeluga, Ken ken.odel...@dowjones.com wrote: I'm just suggesting that the non-music trivia seems to make up the bulk of what gets discussed nowadays, that's all. I think my original post that started this thread was very much on topic and music-focused for what it's worth. I think it's exciting to hear cool music from ZA that has obvious Detroit Techno influence. Africans taking techno and house and making their own thing out of it is a 600 year circle completed. I hope it's not going to stay like this, but I fear what with twitterfacebookbuzz etc, the days of the e-mail list might be numbered. Well the list will be here, as long as Brian Behlendorf keeps Hyperreal.org alive. It might be low traffic, permanently, but that's OK by me. I get enough traffic as it is.
Re: (313) Savage: Techno City
This track has haunted me far deeper than many of the better known, more dance friendly, counterparts. I like a lot of the intellecto-blog post-modern analyses of detroit techno and album reviews as much as the next techno-dork, and this one is not at all offensive, but it's funny when someone has to resort to a dystopian soviet novel to make their point. Next thing you know, we'll get all college-campus on ourselves, and start talking about foucault and sartre and how Juan Atkins was secretly snorting crumpled shavings of unpublished Derrida manuscripts. Not to take away from the point of bringing attention to Techno City, and also because I am often guilty of faux-intellectual brain farts, but am I the only one spotting this type of techno-journalism, and getting mildly annoyed by the apparent monopoly on rave-journalism by NYU grads? On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com wrote: Nice piece from Jon: http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2010/feb/15/cybotron-techno-city m
Re: (313) Vinyl Shops in Manhattan?
everything you said doesnt refute my comment, if anything it reinforces it. depends on what kind of vinyl junkie you are, but for a 313 audience (unless you're looking for cool old records that are explicitly not electronic or pre-main electronic days), I strongly stand by my claim. again, i recommend going to manhattan stores, but expect a lot of the new vinyl stores to be wanker brooklyn hister rock or rock-electro. On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:06 AM, bluegreeng...@hushmail.com wrote: I don't know if If I agree with the brooklyn hipster rock comment. The Manhattan stores' greatest strength is in their used collections that come out of circulation from the people in the neighborhoods. Diversity and rare cool records is more the style, and the in/out flow is strong. It's true that there aren't many Detroit focused vinyl stores in Manhattan, but there are tons of generally great record stores, there is especially a high density of them in the East Village/LES The best bet for new techno, is Vinyl Market at 10th St just west of 1st Ave on the uptown side. It was closed for a while, but had reopened last I checked (a few months ago). Academy on E 12th is just a few blocks away and is excellent for it's all around selection. Maybe they don't carry much from detroit producers, but they do have a great disco selection, and even an italo section. There is another vinyl shop a few blocks east on 12th, I can't remember the name. I think maybe between A and B. It is smaller and caters towards rare breaks records/funk etc. It's smaller but a cool selection. Again unlikely to find much detroit records, but I did get a Sadistic Mika Band album there the other day which is cool no matter what. Gimme Gimme Records in 5th street east of 1st Ave has a good general selection. Sound Library (I thought it was on Orchard below Houston) is also cool for old disco/electro/80s dance. It may have moved to Ave A like discogs says, but I doubt it. I haven't been in a while. Also check out A-1 on e 6th between 1st and A. ... .- .-. . -.-. .- ... ... . - - . ... bluegreengold cassettes ]3 |_ |_| [- (_, /? [- [- |\| (_, () |_ |).|\| [- ~|~ now available: the real perfections C60 kanovanik C60, acoustical cave band C60, hanayo Frog Garden C30, upcoming releases with cj kool mu aka sendust, firehorse, robert burton... www.bluegreengold.net
Re: (313) Vinyl Shops in Manhattan?
By the way, vinyl market is quite closed. On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:06 AM, bluegreeng...@hushmail.com wrote: I don't know if If I agree with the brooklyn hipster rock comment. The Manhattan stores' greatest strength is in their used collections that come out of circulation from the people in the neighborhoods. Diversity and rare cool records is more the style, and the in/out flow is strong. It's true that there aren't many Detroit focused vinyl stores in Manhattan, but there are tons of generally great record stores, there is especially a high density of them in the East Village/LES The best bet for new techno, is Vinyl Market at 10th St just west of 1st Ave on the uptown side. It was closed for a while, but had reopened last I checked (a few months ago). Academy on E 12th is just a few blocks away and is excellent for it's all around selection. Maybe they don't carry much from detroit producers, but they do have a great disco selection, and even an italo section. There is another vinyl shop a few blocks east on 12th, I can't remember the name. I think maybe between A and B. It is smaller and caters towards rare breaks records/funk etc. It's smaller but a cool selection. Again unlikely to find much detroit records, but I did get a Sadistic Mika Band album there the other day which is cool no matter what. Gimme Gimme Records in 5th street east of 1st Ave has a good general selection. Sound Library (I thought it was on Orchard below Houston) is also cool for old disco/electro/80s dance. It may have moved to Ave A like discogs says, but I doubt it. I haven't been in a while. Also check out A-1 on e 6th between 1st and A. ... .- .-. . -.-. .- ... ... . - - . ... bluegreengold cassettes ]3 |_ |_| [- (_, /? [- [- |\| (_, () |_ |).|\| [- ~|~ now available: the real perfections C60 kanovanik C60, acoustical cave band C60, hanayo Frog Garden C30, upcoming releases with cj kool mu aka sendust, firehorse, robert burton... www.bluegreengold.net
Re: (313) Vinyl Shops in Manhattan?
The topic is good, but if you want anything other than hipster brooklyn rock, head to brooklyn. First go to halcyon near the manhattan bridge, and then dope jams on myrtle. Both are quite different, and halcyon is much older and bigger. Both have quite diverse, and often detroit centric music and miscellany. On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome! thanks Frank and Klaus. I figured there were 10,000 record shops, thanks for narrowing it down. -Art On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 9:58 PM, klaus boss djklaus.b...@gmail.com wrote: Please allow me to point out this index on Discogs http://www.discogs.com/groups/topic/86816 On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:50 AM, Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm going to be up in Manhattan next weekend, was wondering if any 313ers had any recommendations for NY vinyl shops that carry things of a Detroit-flavor. I don't know a thing about the NYC scene so not sure if that kind of sound gets stocked very much out there. Thanks, -Arturo -- Regards, Klaus B
Re: (313) Vinyl Shops in Manhattan?
Sorry for double posting, but my point is that all the manhattan shops stock are hipster brooklyn rock (and yes, brooklyn record shops stock brooklyn hipster rock too). The two I mention below in brooklyn stock electronic music. I actually don't know of any real valid manhattan electronic music store. Other Music technically stocks new electronic, but it's a rock focused place. If you want the vibe of a good underground style electronic vinyl shop, I stand by my recommendations. Stores that CLOSED that had good vibes, at least that I got to visit: vinyl market on 10th run by a cool hard to understand japanese dude, place on 3rd street that used to stock a lot house music in east village, etherea, and satellite (unless they have some secret location I don't know). Turntable lab is a cool place if you want to look at cool production and dj gear, that's also in the east village. On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:12 AM, kuszyn...@gmail.com kuszyn...@gmail.com wrote: The topic is good, but if you want anything other than hipster brooklyn rock, head to brooklyn. First go to halcyon near the manhattan bridge, and then dope jams on myrtle. Both are quite different, and halcyon is much older and bigger. Both have quite diverse, and often detroit centric music and miscellany. On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome! thanks Frank and Klaus. I figured there were 10,000 record shops, thanks for narrowing it down. -Art On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 9:58 PM, klaus boss djklaus.b...@gmail.com wrote: Please allow me to point out this index on Discogs http://www.discogs.com/groups/topic/86816 On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:50 AM, Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm going to be up in Manhattan next weekend, was wondering if any 313ers had any recommendations for NY vinyl shops that carry things of a Detroit-flavor. I don't know a thing about the NYC scene so not sure if that kind of sound gets stocked very much out there. Thanks, -Arturo -- Regards, Klaus B
Re: (313) Omar S Fabric 45 Mix CD -- $5 download on Amazon...
Do you get 320k mp3s for that? i feel kind of cheated unless I get lossless. Now my 6 cd FLAC Suicide 77-78 box set, that was a good purchase. On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 7:54 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: Pretty freaking great mix now $5 for download... http://tinyurl.com/y98s2qk
Re: (313) Neuropolitique returning?
I wonder if it's I've been fiddling around on the 909 or in Ableton or if it's actually I recorded some full pieces and already have / plan to get distribution. Very different, and I'd think of tweeting as the right outlet to just announce casually twiddling knobs rather than a business venture. Anyways, it'd be rockin' to hear some new shiz from this guy. On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 4:36 AM, Mike Brown m...@hyperreal.org wrote: I was just (re-)discovering some of the free Neuropolitique MP3s that have been at more or less languishing in the depths of archive.org (http://www.archive.org/details/ird042 is my favorite) and thought I'd Google a bit to see whether Matt Cogger might ever resume making music someday. Lo and behold, here's his latest Tweet: # I have made some new music 7:54 AM Dec 23rd That's at http://twitter.com/neuropolitique ... I'm very interested to hear what he's coming up with. Also, in an older tweet, he linked to the following tale: http://www.bleep43.com/bleep43/2009/7/21/its-a-shame-matt-coggers-adventures-in-chicago.html
Re: (313) Cosmic Twins Mix
Given that it's available for $9 from this guy, I don't see you why you don't just get it. http://www.discogs.com/sell/item/16979123?ev=bp_titl On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 3:25 PM, ohanakin ... ohana...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.discogs.com/Various-Frequencies/release/879734 been wanting to get this for a while On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Tristan Watkins phonop...@googlemail.com wrote: Has anyone heard if Solare Flare is ever going to get a release anywhere other than the Frequency mix? http://www.wavemusic.com/wave-artist/178 On 22/12/2009 14:09, robin wrote: Derrick and Francios K in the mix: http://www.residentadvisor.net/podcast-episode.aspx?id=186 robin...
Re: (313) Silly prices?
if it really is the techno auction of the decade, is it really necessary to say NO NEED TO SAY THIS IS THE TECHNO AUCTION OF THE DECADE? On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Michael Elliot-Knight michael.elliot-kni...@fallon.com wrote: So much for Never sold to the public UR should conduct an interrogation of their soldiers to see who sold them to the public. LOL MEK robin ro...@fivetones.org wrote on 12/14/2009 04:07:56 PM: Maybe. The Clarence G thing was probs a stooge sale. robin... On 14 Dec 2009, at 21:55, Matt Kane's Brain mkb.dirty...@gmail.com wrote: Still cheaper than the Clarence G record. On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 16:50, robin ro...@fivetones.org wrote: This will make you smile: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/UNDERGROUND-RESISTANCE-z-tracks-blue- DREXCIYA-UR-SID_W0QQitemZ200416761677QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Records? hash=item2ea9c5174d#ht_871wt_913 robin... -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim - mkbatwerk ; y! - mkb218 ; gtalk - mkb.dirtyorg Disclaimer The information in this email and any attachments may contain proprietary and confidential information that is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, retention or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. When addressed to our clients or vendors, any information contained in this e-mail or any attachments is subject to the terms and conditions in any governing contract. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately contact the sender and delete the e-mail.
Re: (313) TR: fast but good techno
Confirmed on this surgeon set. It is excellently mixed and extremely musical. Some surgeon material goes to the end of creativity even at subtle cost of musicality, but not so with this mix. Truly one to enjoy and remember. Thank you Surgeon. On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Odeluga, Ken ken.odel...@dowjones.com wrote: http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=4115Itemid=98 I could also re-post this mix which Garrett McGrath posted earlier this week: it's by Surgeon. Anyone coming down to the Bleep43 party tonight with Surgeon, NWAQ and Patrice Scott, see ya there. You guys don't mind me mentioning it one more, brief time, do you? :-) -Original Message- From: Max Mark [mailto:e...@madicoinc.com] Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 1:55 PM To: 'list 313' Subject: (313) TR: fast but good techno Yeah so my dad comes up this morning and asked me for music that he can do his bike training on.. (he is a hardcore bike dude) So I was listening to the ''kirk degiorgio lwe podcast 36'' but he said it was too slow. But I am not gonna suggest happy hardcore or rave crap like that . Is there any good close to 160 bpm techno stuff I could get (not drum and bass thought)?? Peace
Re: (313) blamstrain digital catalog pay-what-you-want
IDM was getting quite out of hand for a v long time. I could only bear so much of what is IDM posts. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 8:05 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: Juho posted about this on IDM but it bears mentioning here. The Exosphere release this year is in fact very musical, tough techno, probably more appropriate fodder for the 313 list than the IDM list. http://blamstrain.bandcamp.com/ As a side note -- if you stayed on 313 but ditched IDM, it's maybe time to come back -- it's become a fairly low volume, low noise list, with only the occasional hilarious flamefest. -- kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) Why I love Rob Theakston/Detroit Grand Pubahs/Telefon Tel Aviv
2/3 is pretty good in the US. I saw cEvin Key of skinny puppy in Brooklyn DJ and there were 60 people. On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Greg Earle ea...@isolar.dyndns.org wrote: Some 313 Archive Fun to start off: Begin forwarded message: Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 08:31:28 -0400 (EDT) From: rob. theak...@online.emich.edu Subject: Re: (313) a few things I'd love to come, but 313 is far away from here... Who is this Dale character? this dale character is none other than big poppa dale lawrence, one of the more up and coming ghettoelectrobootytech djs in the detroit area. prior releases include spank my flabby white ass you bad boy, thats not protein in your SOBE, and shake your body until all your internal organs are damaged. his next releasesupercalifragilisticexpialabooty should be out this fall ...oh yeah, he also does this theorem thing...but im not too sure what its all about *shrug*. rob ;) Meanwhile, in 2009 (313) news, Detroit Grand Pubahs blew my brains out last weekend, and tonight Telefon Tel Aviv did the same. The Pubahs were out here for a rare (first time since I saw them in 2001!) LA appearance. Times have changed and Andy Toth is no longer in tow; Paris' manager from Holland is the Man Behind The (Old Man) Mask nowadays. They had some sound problems (mic missing, owner of the building demanding the Funktion One rig be turned almost off, etc.) but before an impromptu essaying of vintage Pubahs material with a jet-lagged and drunk Paris on the mic, he essentially laptop DJed one of the best sets I've heard in ages. After having been bored sh-tless the previous weekend by Mnml it was more than a welcome change. A good time was had by all. Tonight Joshua brought his remaining half of Telefon Tel Aviv to town after a long absence from the left coast. They were amazing. Imagine Depeche Mode, Death In June, Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark and M83 trapped in an elevator. Really loud. Then I dashed across town to catch John Tejada at Compression, playing to a 2/3rds full room. This just after he played to a thousand people in Berlin. No love from the home team, I tell ya ... - Greg -- kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) “Life Is A Waveform: Underground Resista nce ”
Does UR get any money from this sale? I would hope so, but I don't know who these 14track people are. On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:58 AM, Ravinder S Mann rav.m...@gmail.com wrote: Cheers fella. Ordered and on the d/l : ) 2009/9/24 robin ro...@fivetones.org: They're 320K MP3s Rav. http://14tracks.com/about robin... On 24 Sep 2009, at 08:42, Ravinder S Mann wrote: Im tempted by this too - pending format, so if anyone knows hola back, if not Ill email Boomkat later. -- kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) “Life Is A Waveform: Underground Resista nce ”
are they FLAC? On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 7:14 AM, Marsel van der Wielen mar...@nomorewords.net wrote: nice collection http://14tracks.com/ -- kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) OT: Bill Laswell touring
So is bill laswell one of the performers or is he just presenting the Method of Defiance group? On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Frank Glazercpe1704...@gmail.com wrote: Has anybody seen this go round of Bill Laswell's ambient dub supergroup? musichallofwilliamsburg.com/event/3176 If Jah Wobble were with them I'd be THERE, but as it stands I'm hesitating. But with so many virtuousos I feel like I should maybe not miss it? Or is it mere sonic masturbation? Anybody know what kind of material (pun not intended) they're covering? Sent from my iPhone -- kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) OT: Bill Laswell touring
http://www.myspace.com/methodofdefiance btw - sounds like drum n bass jazz sample freakout ambient dub supergroup material. Sounds pretty cool, and it's in Brooklyn. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:25 PM, kuszyn...@gmail.comkuszyn...@gmail.com wrote: So is bill laswell one of the performers or is he just presenting the Method of Defiance group? On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Frank Glazercpe1704...@gmail.com wrote: Has anybody seen this go round of Bill Laswell's ambient dub supergroup? musichallofwilliamsburg.com/event/3176 If Jah Wobble were with them I'd be THERE, but as it stands I'm hesitating. But with so many virtuousos I feel like I should maybe not miss it? Or is it mere sonic masturbation? Anybody know what kind of material (pun not intended) they're covering? Sent from my iPhone -- kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY -- kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) Jeff Mills Interview
Really nice interview. I always crack up a little bit whenever Jeff Mills starts talking about things that don't involve techno, but this set of discussions, even in his stuttered manner, really captures something meaningful about working life, commitment, and meaning for one's life once the veneer wears off. On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Martin Dustmar...@dustscience.com wrote: There's a good interview here with Jeff: http://www.eq-mag.co.uk/jeffmills.html m -- kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) New Moritz LP - brief report
On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 4:53 PM, kuszyn...@gmail.comkuszyn...@gmail.com wrote: Got to sample this. Feels like a rich and promising effort, but ultimately, I just don't want to hear it over and over, nor particularly from time to time. On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Tristan Watkinsphonop...@googlemail.com wrote: I blogged up this review the other day: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk/?p=634 ... For those who haven’t kept up, the Moritz von Ozwald Trio is a collaboration between Moritz von Ozwald, Max Loderbauer of Sun Electric and Sasu Ripatti AKA Luomo/Vladislav Delay. They’ve played live a few times, garnering much wider interest than you’d expect from one-off local gigs, unfortunately brought further in to the spotlight by Moritz Von Oswald’s recent rumoured stroke, just before the trio were due to play at last year’s DEAF. The Trio’s long-awaited first release, Vertical Ascent, is now available for download for £4 from the Honest Jon’s website. There are physical media available for purchase in most vinyl/CD purveyors as well. I’ve only had the time to listen to it twice today, and my thoughts are mixed. On one hand, this could never be as good as it looks on paper. On the other hand, the end result is not entriely what I would have expected. It’s more percussive than I anticipated. It’s also very composed, with longer tracks that vary considerably and last quite some time. This isn’t that surprising given recent work like von Ozwald’s remixes of Auricle/Bio/On and Watamu Beach. Unfortunately, like those remixes, I feel that they promise more than they deliver. There are elements that distinguish it from these recent remixes, and they are welcome, but the end result initially feels the same. The tracks never really seem to arrive. It’s all ascent, stopping shot of the suggested apex. There’s plenty here to be excited about, but based on first impressions, this isn’t likely to be getting much play in 2010 or beyond. The third and fourth tracks on Vertical Ascent may prove to be exceptions to that critique with repeated listens, but I’m not holding my breath based on my lack of continued enthusiasm for his recent (re)work. ... I've since listened a couple of times more and feel the same. This isn't to say that it doesn't build nicely, it's just that it feels like it should be going somewhere but the tracks just sort of stop. Cheers, Tristan === phonop...@phonopsia.co.uk http://www.phonopsia.co.uk On 04/07/2009 18:06, fran...@thatamazingthing.com wrote: This time I'm going to stick with the very brief as I just got it yesterday and have only had time to listen to the first side but it sounds top, maybe a bit like some of the Recomposed stuff, but more interesting / variation. -- kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY -- kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) sorta OT. UDG DJ trolleys in US?
Think vital vinyl, which appears to be out of business, ran by the Japanese dude, had tons of dj bags and mayhaps trolleys just sitting there when he was open. On Tuesday, June 30, 2009, Todd Sines sines...@scale.gs wrote: any of you know where to find something like the UDG DJ trolley? holds 65 records, CDs, rollers, handles and fits in an overhead bin. They no longer have a US distributor... if you have an idea, or have one for sale.. get in touch. thanks, +odd -- kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) Netbooks; worth it for music applications?
+1 I remember recording entire tracks on a 128mb computer, and I think it worked just fine. I didn't have quadruple phasing reverb algorithms, but I'm not sure I ever did, or ever will, need those. On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 4:55 PM, George Jones IV - logic7log...@cox.net wrote: I look at it like this: I'm currently running an extra old IBM Thinkpad 570. It's a P2-300MHz machine with 192MB RAM in it. I run XP Pro on it with FL Studio 7 and Cubase VST 5.1. I don't use any other plugins other than what shipped with either app save EVP73 and ESXP24. In conjunction with the Korg nanoKEY, it's a good idea pad for when I'm at work. I also use it on the bus to watch flicks and surf the web via wireless card. I'm looking at replacing it with an Acer Aspire ONE 10.1 netbook (1GB RAM, XP Home, 160GB HD) . With this, I'll be able to run a few decent VST's and some better fx and won't have to resize all of my videos in order for them to run. I've already heard some positive stuff about the Aspire ONE with regard to running audio apps. -Original Message- From: Arturo Lopez [mailto:arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:01 AM To: Three-One-Three Subject: (313) Netbooks; worth it for music applications? Was wondering if anyone out there had any experience running any music applications on a netbook? Seems like it might be a nice/cheap solution for running ableton/serato/whatever and quite a bit more portable than a larger laptop. Concerned a bit weather a $250 netbook has a beefy enough processor to handle these apps, but then again people were running those apps on slower laptops 3 or 4 years ago. Hmm. I'd imagine you'd have to buy an external soundcard though. Thoughts? -Arturo -- kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) Netbooks; worth it for music applications?
Get a used MacBook 12 or MacBook 13. Dirt cheap on craigslist. On Tuesday, June 23, 2009, david smith bassline...@gmail.com wrote: One thing to keep in mind the original netbooks run linux, not microsoft windows. I use abelton live 3 and renoise for my music production. This set up is very easy on the cpu, I can make some interesting mixes on my g3 400mhz powerbook. Whenever I need to use midi/VSTi I render the tracks in renoise and do the final mix in live 3. Renoise will work with linux too if you have a netbook without a x86 processor--that would be core! -ds - Original Message - From: Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com To: Three-One-Three 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:00 PM Subject: (313) Netbooks; worth it for music applications? Was wondering if anyone out there had any experience running any music applications on a netbook? Seems like it might be a nice/cheap solution for running ableton/serato/whatever and quite a bit more portable than a larger laptop. Concerned a bit weather a $250 netbook has a beefy enough processor to handle these apps, but then again people were running those apps on slower laptops 3 or 4 years ago. Hmm. I'd imagine you'd have to buy an external soundcard though. Thoughts? -Arturo -- kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) MIDI Routing Question for Gear Heads
Motu makes a great 8x8 USB rack unit I think. I had one, thought might have been 4x4, had led for each io activity level, worked great. On Monday, June 22, 2009, Thor Teague thor.tea...@gmail.com wrote: I have my doubts. If it's cheaper to try and you want to save a buck, maybe give it a whirl but just be ready for it to possibly not work. I know that both macs and PC's have only a finite amount of that sort of thing that they can deal with. My opinion would be to go straight to the rack mount if you have the budget, I'm more confident about that solution personally. On 6/21/09, Richard Hester gwrenc...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Sooner or later, I'll be putting my music computer setup back together. It's woefully out of date, and I'll need some sort of midi router to replace my 4 X 4 ISA card (ISA? What's that...). Anyway, one option would be to get an 8X rack mount router with USB interface, though these seem to be a bit thin on the ground as of late.What I have noticed is a lot of MIDI-to-USB dongles cropping up. Would a bunch of these operating into a USB hub be a proper substitute, given the proper software (if it exists)? -- kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) Anniversary - Ten Years without X-Mix
/ X-Mix 3] 66 3:21 Minimal Man – Coyote Flux [Trelik 1995/ X-Mix 6] 67 3:27 Galaxy 2 Galaxy – Journey of the Dragons [Underground Resistance 1993/ X-Mix 2] 68 3:30 Rhythim Is Rhythim – Icon [Transmat 1991/ X-Mix 2] 69 3:36 Yoshihiro Sawasaki – Magic Dome [Sublime Records 1994/ X-Mix 4] -- kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) 15 years
So what's your advice to young 313 list'ers? On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Garrett McGrathg...@7mzdt.com wrote: '95 or '96 for me.. somewhere in there. too many email addys. On Jun 5, 2009, at 5:31 AM, JT Stewart wrote: 1995 here too On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 7:41 AM, robinro...@fivetones.org wrote: I think that beats me. I've been on here since 1995 I think (as rob...@chem.leeds.ac.uk, originally). Congrats Marsel! :) robin... On 5 Jun 2009, at 12:30, kent williams wrote: It means you're eligible to be in the grizzled elder pictures from DEMF: http://tinyurl.com/pknn5s Since the list was started in 1994, you must be one of the OG 313'ers. On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Marsel van der Wielenmar...@nomorewords.net wrote: i suddenly realized i'm almost 15 years subscribed to this list did i win any? 313 watch? -- kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) the RZA invented final skratch ?
OTInstead of investing in subprime mortgages, AIG should have bought some Final Skratch. /OT On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:10 AM, ohanakin ... ohana...@gmail.com wrote: http://ulmann.blogspot.com/2007/11/did-rza-invent-final-scratch-technology.html -- kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) Patrice Scott Interview in RA
AND he's playing in Brooklyn soon. On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:41 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: Patrice Scott Interview: http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1055 -- kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) Experimedia is moving away from announcements via mailing lists
Yea - seems very myopic to remove a viable source of communication.
Why not POST and TWEET? That way you can tell people that you posted
and that you twat.
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:58 PM, darnistle darnis...@cafe-ebola.com wrote:
Pity.
I don't have a twitter account, nor am I inclined to get one.
I wish you'd continue occasionally posting to the lists. That's how I found
about you and the recent Illusion of Safety release.
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Jeremy Bible wrote:
Experimedia is moving announcements away from mailing lists.
At this busy time Experimedia's history we find it more efficient to
feed short and to the point announcements and recommendations through
the twitter platform.
So follow or dont but this is where the news will be
http://twitter.com/experimedia
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(313) 313 in brooklyn all summer
http://abrooklynlife.com/2009/05/sunday-best-at-the-yard-in-gow.html Linking to a blog I read, and the blog links to an event series. Looks intense, Kyle Hall, Omar S, Quentin Harris. The weird thing is, I never thought this Brooklyn blog to be that cool. Nor did I apparently realize how much Brooklyn loves 313.
Re: (313) Soul City 313 with Omar S., Sunday May 24, 7AM - 4PM
what time is omar s playing? 7am or in the afternoon? Just wanna make sure my friends who DID go to detroit don't miss it. On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 3:03 PM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: ***UPDATE*** LINE UP: Omar S. (Detroit) -- FOUR HOUR SET!!! K.atou (Athens) Eric Johnston (Detroit) Dave Powers (Chicago) Max Jacobson (Chicago) Ryan Brogan (NY) BONUS: 3 free drink tickets with admission between 7-9am or until free booze runs out so come early for some morning rooftop patio action! Lots of music give-a-ways including a summer sampler cd from subtrak records featuring songs from Dave Powers, Max Jacobson, Ryan Brogan as well as other artists. Also subtrak merch will be passed out including stickers, copies of ryan brogans subtrak21 release vinyl and cds, and other goodies.. PRESS RELEASE: Max Powers and Subtrak Records are proud to announce a unique daytime electronic-music showcase, scheduled for Sunday, May 24th. SOUL CITY 313 promises to be a stand-out event during the weekend of Detroit’s Electronic Music Festival featuring some of the most influential international house and deep minimal techno artists alongside up-and-coming performers from the Midwest electronic-music scenes. Focusing on deeper moods of house and techno, SOUL CITY 313 aims to provide music-lovers with an organic, sexy, and (as expected) deeply soulful setting for the early morning and daytime hours. SOUL CITY313 is about convergence and unity. It is the place where Detroit meets Chicago, house meets techno, and classic meets contemporary. It is the chance to cultivate an unpretentious, pleasurable party atmosphere with a soundtrack of purely underground music. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 4:51 PM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: When: Sunday, May 24th, 7 AM - 4 PM. Where: Exodus rooftop, Greektown, Detroit Max Powers presents SOUL CITY 313 Featuring: Omar S. (Detroit) with Dave Powers LIVE and Max Jacobson additional lineup TBA -- kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
