[313] Every Dog... Vol 3!

2002-02-22 Thread Tom Robbins/Tom Magic Feet
Look what landed in me box today... [voice of Homer] , new
Mills...[drool]...

Millsart: Every Dog Has Its Day Vol 3 (Axis)
2x12", AX-026, released 15 April 2002

No tracklisting, unfortunately, but it does come with a prime slice of
'Mills-speak'.


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[313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-08 Thread Jason Donnelly

on the most recent Bent Crayon mailout:


> MILLSART: Every Dog Has Its Day Vol. 3 2x12" (AXIS).  "In time, all
> wrongdoings are eligible for correction. Even in the eye of a storm, we
> must endure the invalid as a objective fragment in the existence of
> mankind. Effortlessly, time passes over and onto, without you and without
> us. On it, we mark the acceptance of the new with the chance to begin
> again
> and give away the hand of the past, free of unadmissibles. Those who are
> punctual are thieves of time. Robbing from reserves of time that have been
>
> designated for nothing. In time, time tells truths or at least the truths
> you've been waiting for. Time is the oldest living thing we own. Its rate
> of speed is constant and in all, infinite. Some never have enough time,
> which are those people that are quick to reconize those who waste it. Is
> time or is it not? It has been said that seconds, minutes, hours, days,
> weeks, months, years, decades and centuries are just about all the average
>
> human can imagine and plan for. Millsart believes not. All that is needed
> to calculate is that 'one of these days is none of these days'. Now that
> you've read this, please be advised that Every Dog Has Its Day."


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[313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-08 Thread Jason Donnelly
meant to say before everyone on the list hits the bent crayon site for a 
copy, 'every dog vol 3' was listed in the 'forth coming titles' section, so 
you might want to pre-order with John C to avoid the rush when its 
eventually released.


also worth a mention, and ready to ship is:

MR FINGERS: Amnesia 2LP (JACK TRAX). UK reissue of this Chicago house 
classic, originally issued in 1988; licensed from Trax, in original color 
sleeve. "The classic Mr Fingers LP featuring all his finest early works. 
Tracklisting: A1 Can You Feel It, A2 Washing Machine, A3 Beyond The Clouds, 
B1 Slam Dance, B2 Stars, B3 Waterfalls, C1 Lets Dance All Night, C2 Bye 
Bye, C3 For So Long, D1 Amnesia, D2 Mystery Of Love, D3 The Juice." 16.99


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[313] every dog vol 3

2002-03-11 Thread Jason Donnelly

now available at bent crayon:

MILLSART: Every Dog Has Its Day Vol. 3 2x12" (AXIS). "In time, all 
wrongdoings are eligible for correction. Even in the eye of a storm, we 
must endure the invalid as a objective fragment in the existence of 
mankind. Effortlessly, time passes over and onto, without you and without 
us. On it, we mark the acceptance of the new with the chance to begin again 
and give away the hand of the past, free of unadmissibles. Those who are 
punctual are thieves of time. Robbing from reserves of time that have been 
designated for nothing. In time, time tells truths or at least the truths 
you've been waiting for. Time is the oldest living thing we own. Its rate 
of speed is constant and in all, infinite. Some never have enough time, 
which are those people that are quick to recognize those who waste it. Is 
time or is it not? It has been said that seconds, minutes, hours, days, 
weeks, months, years, decades and centuries are just about all the average 
human can imagine and plan for. Millsart believes not. All that is needed 
to calculate is that 'one of these days is none of these days'. Now that 
you've read this, please be advised that Every Dog Has Its Day." 
--Millsart  $16.99


$16.99 is roughly £12

sure beats £20 that some shops are looking for!

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[313] every dog vol. 3

2002-03-25 Thread Minto George

This is my fav vol. of this series by jeff...very deep
and damn good...wish he would put out more of this
kinda stuff. Classic Detroit techno and highly
recommended! I got my copy through groovetech and I
think it was worth the $16 I paid for it. :)

also gotta say I dug Tom's new one on Nordic Trax too!
;)

anyone heard the new Arpanet (dopplereffekt) 12" on
Air's new label Record Makers?

minto 


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Re: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-08 Thread Alastair_Jones

Makes no sense whatsoever.
Unfortunately Mills influenced a whole generation of producers to put this
sort of gibberish on the back of their album sleeves.




"Jason Donnelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 08/01/2002 11:26:30 AM

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Subject:  [313] every dog vol 3


on the most recent Bent Crayon mailout:

> > MILLSART: Every Dog Has Its Day Vol. 3 2x12" (AXIS).  "In time, all
> > wrongdoings are eligible for correction. Even in the eye of a storm, we
> > must endure the invalid as a objective fragment in the existence of
> > mankind. Effortlessly, time passes over and onto, without you and
without
> > us. On it, we mark the acceptance of the new with the chance to begin
> > again
> > and give away the hand of the past, free of unadmissibles. Those who
are
> > punctual are thieves of time. Robbing from reserves of time that have
been
> >
> > designated for nothing. In time, time tells truths or at least the
truths
> > you've been waiting for. Time is the oldest living thing we own. Its
rate
> > of speed is constant and in all, infinite. Some never have enough time,
> > which are those people that are quick to reconize those who waste it.
Is
> > time or is it not? It has been said that seconds, minutes, hours, days,
> > weeks, months, years, decades and centuries are just about all the
average
> >
> > human can imagine and plan for. Millsart believes not. All that is
needed
> > to calculate is that 'one of these days is none of these days'. Now
that
> > you've read this, please be advised that Every Dog Has Its Day."

jason



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Re: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-08 Thread robin pinning

> 
> Makes no sense whatsoever.

i thought that, but then i thought maybe it was a zen trick to empty your
mind.

> Unfortunately Mills influenced a whole generation of producers to put this
> sort of gibberish on the back of their album sleeves.

what would you rather be written?

hmm i think we (313) may have had this discussion before. :)


robin...

> > > MILLSART: Every Dog Has Its Day Vol. 3 2x12" (AXIS).  "In time, all
> > > wrongdoings are eligible for correction. Even in the eye of a storm, we
> > > must endure the invalid as a objective fragment in the existence of
> > > mankind. Effortlessly, time passes over and onto, without you and
> without
> > > us. On it, we mark the acceptance of the new with the chance to begin
> > > again
> > > and give away the hand of the past, free of unadmissibles. Those who
> are
> > > punctual are thieves of time. Robbing from reserves of time that have
> been
> > >
> > > designated for nothing. In time, time tells truths or at least the
> truths
> > > you've been waiting for. Time is the oldest living thing we own. Its
> rate
> > > of speed is constant and in all, infinite. Some never have enough time,
> > > which are those people that are quick to reconize those who waste it.
> Is
> > > time or is it not? It has been said that seconds, minutes, hours, days,
> > > weeks, months, years, decades and centuries are just about all the
> average
> > >
> > > human can imagine and plan for. Millsart believes not. All that is
> needed
> > > to calculate is that 'one of these days is none of these days'. Now
> that
> > > you've read this, please be advised that Every Dog Has Its Day."
> 


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FW: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-08 Thread Odeluga, Ken

Great music, but I wish someone would deal with his grammar before
publishing his notes. It's embarrassing. Might be due to the fact that
they're usually put out by companies in countries where English is language
II ...

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>To: 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: [313] every dog vol 3
>
>
>on the most recent Bent Crayon mailout:
>
>> > MILLSART: Every Dog Has Its Day Vol. 3 2x12" (AXIS).  "In time, all
>> > wrongdoings are eligible for correction. Even in the eye of a storm, we
>> > must endure the invalid as a objective fragment in the existence of
>> > mankind. Effortlessly, time passes over and onto, without you
>and without
>> > us. On it, we mark the acceptance of the new with the chance to begin
>> > again
>> > and give away the hand of the past, free of unadmissibles.
>Those who are
>> > punctual are thieves of time. Robbing from reserves of time
>that have been
>> >
>> > designated for nothing. In time, time tells truths or at least
>the truths
>> > you've been waiting for. Time is the oldest living thing we
>own. Its rate
>> > of speed is constant and in all, infinite. Some never have enough time,
>> > which are those people that are quick to reconize those who
>waste it. Is
>> > time or is it not? It has been said that seconds, minutes, hours, days,
>> > weeks, months, years, decades and centuries are just about all
>the average
>> >
>> > human can imagine and plan for. Millsart believes not. All
>that is needed
>> > to calculate is that 'one of these days is none of these
>days'. Now that
>> > you've read this, please be advised that Every Dog Has Its Day."
>
>jason
>
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Re: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-08 Thread Alastair_Jones

Yes, I think that we have been here before.
Am I the only one who gets slightly irritated by people thanking God for
their musical abilities? It's completely unnecessary. Besides, what the
lord giveth, the lord taketh away.




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>
> Makes no sense whatsoever.

i thought that, but then i thought maybe it was a zen trick to empty your
mind.

> Unfortunately Mills influenced a whole generation of producers to put
this
> sort of gibberish on the back of their album sleeves.

what would you rather be written?

hmm i think we (313) may have had this discussion before. :)


robin...

> > > MILLSART: Every Dog Has Its Day Vol. 3 2x12" (AXIS).  "In time, all
> > > wrongdoings are eligible for correction. Even in the eye of a storm,
we
> > > must endure the invalid as a objective fragment in the existence of
> > > mankind. Effortlessly, time passes over and onto, without you and
> without
> > > us. On it, we mark the acceptance of the new with the chance to begin
> > > again
> > > and give away the hand of the past, free of unadmissibles. Those who
> are
> > > punctual are thieves of time. Robbing from reserves of time that have
> been
> > >
> > > designated for nothing. In time, time tells truths or at least the
> truths
> > > you've been waiting for. Time is the oldest living thing we own. Its
> rate
> > > of speed is constant and in all, infinite. Some never have enough
time,
> > > which are those people that are quick to reconize those who waste it.
> Is
> > > time or is it not? It has been said that seconds, minutes, hours,
days,
> > > weeks, months, years, decades and centuries are just about all the
> average
> > >
> > > human can imagine and plan for. Millsart believes not. All that is
> needed
> > > to calculate is that 'one of these days is none of these days'. Now
> that
> > > you've read this, please be advised that Every Dog Has Its Day."
>










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RE: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-08 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Here's one I'll never forget: Blake Baxter presents '313' (Tresor, '96)
"Detroit as a city is a forgotten place but it can develop a new urban
role..." (or very close). That's Detroit as a city mind, not as a pumpkin.

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>
>
>Makes no sense whatsoever.
>Unfortunately Mills influenced a whole generation of producers to put this
>sort of gibberish on the back of their album sleeves.
>
>
>
>
>"Jason Donnelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 08/01/2002 11:26:30 AM
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>To:   313@hyperreal.org
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>Subject:  [313] every dog vol 3
>
>
>on the most recent Bent Crayon mailout:
>
>> > MILLSART: Every Dog Has Its Day Vol. 3 2x12" (AXIS).  "In time, all
>> > wrongdoings are eligible for correction. Even in the eye of a storm, we
>> > must endure the invalid as a objective fragment in the existence of
>> > mankind. Effortlessly, time passes over and onto, without you and
>without
>> > us. On it, we mark the acceptance of the new with the chance to begin
>> > again
>> > and give away the hand of the past, free of unadmissibles. Those who
>are
>> > punctual are thieves of time. Robbing from reserves of time that have
>been
>> >
>> > designated for nothing. In time, time tells truths or at least the
>truths
>> > you've been waiting for. Time is the oldest living thing we own. Its
>rate
>> > of speed is constant and in all, infinite. Some never have enough time,
>> > which are those people that are quick to reconize those who waste it.
>Is
>> > time or is it not? It has been said that seconds, minutes, hours, days,
>> > weeks, months, years, decades and centuries are just about all the
>average
>> >
>> > human can imagine and plan for. Millsart believes not. All that is
>needed
>> > to calculate is that 'one of these days is none of these days'. Now
>that
>> > you've read this, please be advised that Every Dog Has Its Day."
>
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RE: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-08 Thread robin pinning

> Here's one I'll never forget: Blake Baxter presents '313' (Tresor, '96)
> "Detroit as a city is a forgotten place but it can develop a new urban
> role..." (or very close). 

>That's Detroit as a city mind, not as a pumpkin.

not as a state of mind? :)

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RE: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-08 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Very good.

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>
>
>> Here's one I'll never forget: Blake Baxter presents '313' (Tresor, '96)
>> "Detroit as a city is a forgotten place but it can develop a new urban
>> role..." (or very close). 
>
>>That's Detroit as a city mind, not as a pumpkin.
>
>not as a state of mind? :)
>
>robin...
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Re: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-08 Thread Alastair_Jones

I wasn't suggesting insincerity, just that if you believe in God (or a god)
then it's between you and him, and there's no need to hand out the credits.
Bit like a over-long Oscars acceptance speech.




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> Yes, I think that we have been here before.
> Am I the only one who gets slightly irritated by people thanking God for
> their musical abilities? It's completely unnecessary. Besides, what the
> lord giveth, the lord taketh away.

it only irritates me if it seems insincere (cos eveyone does it to seem
deep that particular artist does too), i guess if it's heartfelt then i
don't mind. how you can tell if it's sincere or not i don't know :)

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Re: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-08 Thread T . J . Johnson
Well, since others are throwing around their opinions about this, I guess I'll 
toss mine out there.  I enjoy writings like this.  The concept of time and its 
existence have perplexed intelligent minds for forever (if forever exists).  
Without time there is no forever and with forever there is no need for time.  
Without forever there is time.  If time exists, who created it--man or greater? 
 What is the definition of existence?  Does this email exist?  Prove it!

I know this sounds like a bunch of ranting about nothing, but topics such as 
this are interesting to me and many other people  :)


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Re: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-08 Thread T . J . Johnson
The grammar isn't to the point where it bothers me.I'd have to read it 
directly from the record and not Jason's retyping it to actually analyze it 
though.  Maybe Jeff should hire an editor to fend off grammatical analysts!  ;)

On Tue, 08 January 2002, robin pinning wrote:

> 
> 
> >> Well, since others are throwing around their opinions about this, I
> >guess I'll toss mine out there.  I enjoy writings like this.  The concept
> >of time and its existence have perplexed intelligent minds for forever
> >(if forever exists).  Without time there is no forever and with forever
> >there is no need for time.  Without forever there is time.  If time
> >exists, who created it--man or greater?  What is the definition of
> >existence?  Does this email exist?  Prove it!
> 
> :)
> 
> > 
> > I know this sounds like a bunch of ranting about nothing, but topics such 
> > as this are interesting to me and many other people  :)
> 
> 
> i'm with you, i think the grammer on mills stuff is a little irritating
> but i guess that must be deliberate.
> 
> robin...

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RE: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-08 Thread Odeluga, Ken
The grammar is not the point at all ... (but it is just as bad in the
origianl notes as in the transcript, I'm afraid) The point is whether we
really think Jeff is adding a great deal to the history of Western
philosophy with all this? Of course the validity of temporality (or not),
the beauty of the oppressed and rejected are noble topics and further, this
is not to suggest there's some sort of elitism about who can make a point or
write anything on a particular subject ... but at the end of the day (upon
which a dog will have his) facile, primary school sentiments are easily
recognisable as just that.

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>The grammar isn't to the point where it bothers me.I'd have to
>read it directly from the record and not Jason's retyping it to
>actually analyze it though.  Maybe Jeff should hire an editor to
>fend off grammatical analysts!  ;)
>
>On Tue, 08 January 2002, robin pinning wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> >> Well, since others are throwing around their opinions about this, I
>> >guess I'll toss mine out there.  I enjoy writings like this.
>The concept
>> >of time and its existence have perplexed intelligent minds for forever
>> >(if forever exists).  Without time there is no forever and with forever
>> >there is no need for time.  Without forever there is time.  If time
>> >exists, who created it--man or greater?  What is the definition of
>> >existence?  Does this email exist?  Prove it!
>>
>> :)
>>
>> >
>> > I know this sounds like a bunch of ranting about nothing, but
>topics such as this are interesting to me and many other people  :)
>>
>>
>> i'm with you, i think the grammer on mills stuff is a little irritating
>> but i guess that must be deliberate.
>>
>> robin...
>
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RE: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-08 Thread Odeluga, Ken
... The Everydog Has It's Day CD edition out on Musicman last year was a
different item?

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>
>
>meant to say before everyone on the list hits the bent crayon site for a
>copy, 'every dog vol 3' was listed in the 'forth coming titles'
>section, so
>you might want to pre-order with John C to avoid the rush when its
>eventually released.
>
>also worth a mention, and ready to ship is:
>
>MR FINGERS: Amnesia 2LP (JACK TRAX). UK reissue of this Chicago house
>classic, originally issued in 1988; licensed from Trax, in original color
>sleeve. "The classic Mr Fingers LP featuring all his finest early works.
>Tracklisting: A1 Can You Feel It, A2 Washing Machine, A3 Beyond
>The Clouds,
>B1 Slam Dance, B2 Stars, B3 Waterfalls, C1 Lets Dance All Night, C2 Bye
>Bye, C3 For So Long, D1 Amnesia, D2 Mystery Of Love, D3 The Juice." 16.99
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RE: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-08 Thread robin pinning

> The grammar is not the point at all ... (but it is just as bad in the
> origianl notes as in the transcript, I'm afraid) The point is whether we
> really think Jeff is adding a great deal to the history of Western
> philosophy with all this? 

hmm, does that matter? the text JM provides is surely just setting the
stage for the music to follow. to get you in the right frame of mind to
get (grok) what JM wants you to take from the music.

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RE: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-08 Thread T . J . Johnson
On Tue, 08 January 2002, "Odeluga, Ken" wrote:

... but at the end of the day (upon
> which a dog will have his) facile, primary school sentiments are easily
> recognisable as just that.


Whoops!  Recognizable.  ;)

So the point is, that whoever recognizes Jeff's discussion topics are smarter 
than he is?  I don't get it.  I'm probably missing your point.  Anyways...

One good thing about Jeff's grammar:

He doesn't use a thesaurus when he writes.  He actually may, but what I'm 
actually trying to say is, he doesn't use huge words that only 4 people use on 
a regular basis, just to try to sound intelligent.  Grammar and vocabulary are 
not the only contributors to one's intelligence, as many of you know.  So, to 
try to pick apart someone's brain and basing an opinion about his/her 
intelligence on grammar and discussion topic choice is just as elementary as 
Jeff's discussions about time/space theories.  =)


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2002-01-08 Thread T . J . Johnson

> hmm, does that matter? the text JM provides is surely just setting the
> stage for the music to follow. to get you in the right frame of mind to
> get (grok) what JM wants you to take from the music.
> 
> robin...

I agree whole-heartedly!  The text is there to try to get the listener into the 
same state of mind Jeff was in when he created the tracks, perhaps!  He does a 
great job too.  I don't think he is trying to prove to people how smart he 
thinks he is.  Duh!  I can't believe I just said "Duh!"  Remember that from 6th 
grade all you Gen-Xers?!?!?!  

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Re: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-08 Thread Lester Kenyatta Spence
I've actually been thinking about offering my services as a liner notes
writer to detroit influenced artists.  Taking the liner notes from EVERY
DOG HAS ITS DAY away from the context of the album makes it even more
apparent that techno artists need "real" writers if they are serious about
taking their artform and making it into a long term life altering
movement.


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Re: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-08 Thread allnight
time exists to organise the universe's knowlege

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> De  : Jason Donnelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Para: 313@hyperreal.org
> Cc  :
> Data: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 11:26:30 +0000
> Assunto : [313] every dog vol 3
>
> on the most recent Bent Crayon mailout:
>
> > > MILLSART: Every Dog Has Its Day Vol. 3 2x12" (AXIS).  "In time,
all
> > > wrongdoings are eligible for correction. Even in the eye of a
storm, we
> > > must endure the invalid as a objective fragment in the
existence of
> > > mankind. Effortlessly, time passes over and onto, without you
and without
> > > us. On it, we mark the acceptance of the new with the chance to
begin
> > > again
> > > and give away the hand of the past, free of unadmissibles.
Those who are
> > > punctual are thieves of time. Robbing from reserves of time
that have been
> > >
> > > designated for nothing. In time, time tells truths or at least
the truths
> > > you've been waiting for. Time is the oldest living thing we
own. Its rate
> > > of speed is constant and in all, infinite. Some never have
enough time,
> > > which are those people that are quick to reconize those who
waste it. Is
> > > time or is it not? It has been said that seconds, minutes,
hours, days,
> > > weeks, months, years, decades and centuries are just about all
the average
> > >
> > > human can imagine and plan for. Millsart believes not. All that
is needed
> > > to calculate is that 'one of these days is none of these days'.
Now that
> > > you've read this, please be advised that Every Dog Has Its Day."
>
> jason
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Re: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-08 Thread Alastair_Jones

I don't think that musicians need writers to transform their work into
something that is more meaningful. Most music is equivocal, and it is this
that has imbued it with so much power and meaning throughout history. If an
artist wants some sort of narrative to their work, you'd expect that they
would be able to string a few sentences together themselves.





"Lester Kenyatta Spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 08/01/2002 04:03:44 PM

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Subject:  Re: [313] every dog vol 3


I've actually been thinking about offering my services as a liner notes
writer to detroit influenced artists.  Taking the liner notes from EVERY
DOG HAS ITS DAY away from the context of the album makes it even more
apparent that techno artists need "real" writers if they are serious about
taking their artform and making it into a long term life altering
movement.


peace
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Re: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-08 Thread Lester Kenyatta Spence
On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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> I don't think that musicians need writers to transform their work into
> something that is more meaningful. Most music is equivocal, and it is this
> that has imbued it with so much power and meaning throughout history. If an
> artist wants some sort of narrative to their work, you'd expect that they
> would be able to string a few sentences together themselves.

Well yes and no.  The bottom line is that the music should speak for
itself...it really doesn't NEED notes right?  I've got the cd, and it
would've STILL been played at full blast for nine hours straight on the
way home from the demf, without the notes.

But if you're going to add another layer to it...why not use a WRITER?
This is the jazz model more or less...and it works.  Wynton Marsalis
doesn't write his liner notes...Stanley Crouch does.  Now in some cases
the artist is a qualified writer in his/her own rightbut I'd argue
that these cases are the minority.


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Re: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-08 Thread neontsetse
what´s the problem ? 

interesting thoughts - written in a simple understandable way - 

don´t know if someone else would write down those thoughts - 

language will be moving along and the advanced definitions of how people 

should communicate - seperating the classes will be gone tommorow  

so why you worry about this ? 

m
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Re: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-08 Thread Alastair_Jones

Well, yes I see your point. The same could be said for classical music.
Very few musicians have presumed themselves to be good writers as well. But
as a music enthusiast, I am interested in how the music came about, not in
a set of imposed ideas about what the music means.
alastair




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On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
> I don't think that musicians need writers to transform their work into
> something that is more meaningful. Most music is equivocal, and it is
this
> that has imbued it with so much power and meaning throughout history. If
an
> artist wants some sort of narrative to their work, you'd expect that they
> would be able to string a few sentences together themselves.

Well yes and no.  The bottom line is that the music should speak for
itself...it really doesn't NEED notes right?  I've got the cd, and it
would've STILL been played at full blast for nine hours straight on the
way home from the demf, without the notes.

But if you're going to add another layer to it...why not use a WRITER?
This is the jazz model more or less...and it works.  Wynton Marsalis
doesn't write his liner notes...Stanley Crouch does.  Now in some cases
the artist is a qualified writer in his/her own rightbut I'd argue
that these cases are the minority.


peace
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Re: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-08 Thread james boylan
I think some people are slightly embarrassed by the futurist 
philosophy/mythology that sometimes informs techno and look upon it with the 
same disdain as punks did on some of the excesses of progressive rock, 
musical or otherwise.


Personally, I like some decorations, so to speak...be they heartfelt, 
insightful, tongue-in-cheek or just plain pretentious rubbish.


Its always intriguing at the very least.




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 08:30:30 -0800


Well, yes I see your point. The same could be said for classical music.
Very few musicians have presumed themselves to be good writers as well. But
as a music enthusiast, I am interested in how the music came about, not in
a set of imposed ideas about what the music means.
alastair




"Lester Kenyatta Spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 08/01/2002 04:26:07 PM

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Subject:  Re: [313] every dog vol 3


On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
> I don't think that musicians need writers to transform their work into
> something that is more meaningful. Most music is equivocal, and it is
this
> that has imbued it with so much power and meaning throughout history. If
an
> artist wants some sort of narrative to their work, you'd expect that 
they

> would be able to string a few sentences together themselves.

Well yes and no.  The bottom line is that the music should speak for
itself...it really doesn't NEED notes right?  I've got the cd, and it
would've STILL been played at full blast for nine hours straight on the
way home from the demf, without the notes.

But if you're going to add another layer to it...why not use a WRITER?
This is the jazz model more or less...and it works.  Wynton Marsalis
doesn't write his liner notes...Stanley Crouch does.  Now in some cases
the artist is a qualified writer in his/her own rightbut I'd argue
that these cases are the minority.


peace
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Re: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-08 Thread Lester Kenyatta Spence
On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, james boylan wrote:

> I think some people are slightly embarrassed by the futurist
> philosophy/mythology that sometimes informs techno and look upon it with the
> same disdain as punks did on some of the excesses of progressive rock,
> musical or otherwise.

You're right.

> Personally, I like some decorations, so to speak...be they heartfelt,
> insightful, tongue-in-cheek or just plain pretentious rubbish.

I do too.  I think it creates an overall vibe that I find enjoyable.

> Its always intriguing at the very least.

I just wish it were done better.


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Re: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-08 Thread kurt(bway.net)

But if you're going to add another layer to it...why not use a WRITER?




I don't know that we're supposed to take it that seriously. I think 
it's just supposed to come off as whimsical stoned nonsense.


hire a copywriter, and then you just get *insincere* whimsical stoned 
nonsense. (please see backs of countless '60's psychedelic-era albums 
with 'hip' notes from the band's manager etc.)



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Re: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-08 Thread :P


> The grammar is not the point at all ... (but it is just as bad in the
> origianl notes as in the transcript, I'm afraid) The point is whether we
> really think Jeff is adding a great deal to the history of Western
> philosophy with all this? Of course the validity of temporality (or not),
> the beauty of the oppressed and rejected are noble topics and further,
this
> is not to suggest there's some sort of elitism about who can make a point
or
> write anything on a particular subject ... but at the end of the day (upon
> which a dog will have his) facile, primary school sentiments are easily
> recognisable as just that.


If you buy CDs to be touched deep down inside by the liner notes, you will
most likely be disappointed.

if you want to read about time and space, get a book by carl sagan or
stephen hawking.  turn to mills when you want hard techno.

I personally think mills is being a bullshit artist because his writings
sound a lot like your average guy trying to project intelligence through
abstract CD liner rantings.

dont get me wrong, he can write whatever he wants on cds and records, and I
encourage him to do so.  I just know better than to waste my time reading
that wankery.

remember, time and space = stephen hawking, banging techno = mills.

I haven't slept in a while tho so I might just be grouchy :\


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Re: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-08 Thread Mad'R
whaaa

this is funny
I remember a quote from Drexcya about why they give that much interviews
(not)

it's to cult or not to cult

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>
> I don't think that musicians need writers to transform their work into
> something that is more meaningful. Most music is equivocal, and it is this
> that has imbued it with so much power and meaning throughout history. If
an
> artist wants some sort of narrative to their work, you'd expect that they
> would be able to string a few sentences together themselves.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Lester Kenyatta Spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 08/01/2002 04:03:44 PM
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> To:   "Jason Donnelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Subject:  Re: [313] every dog vol 3
>
>
> I've actually been thinking about offering my services as a liner notes
> writer to detroit influenced artists.  Taking the liner notes from EVERY
> DOG HAS ITS DAY away from the context of the album makes it even more
> apparent that techno artists need "real" writers if they are serious about
> taking their artform and making it into a long term life altering
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Re: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-08 Thread Cyclone Wehner
It's usually sincerely meant. Why dhouldn't they? You don't have to read it,
right?
:)
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>Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 10:43 PM
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>
>Yes, I think that we have been here before.
>Am I the only one who gets slightly irritated by people thanking God for
>their musical abilities? It's completely unnecessary. Besides, what the
>lord giveth, the lord taketh away.
>
>
>
>
>"robin pinning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 08/01/2002 11:45:11 AM
>
>Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>Subject:  Re: [313] every dog vol 3
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>
>
>>
>> Makes no sense whatsoever.
>
>i thought that, but then i thought maybe it was a zen trick to empty your
>mind.
>
>> Unfortunately Mills influenced a whole generation of producers to put
>this
>> sort of gibberish on the back of their album sleeves.
>
>what would you rather be written?
>
>hmm i think we (313) may have had this discussion before. :)
>
>
>robin...
>
>> > > MILLSART: Every Dog Has Its Day Vol. 3 2x12" (AXIS).  "In time, all
>> > > wrongdoings are eligible for correction. Even in the eye of a storm,
>we
>> > > must endure the invalid as a objective fragment in the existence of
>> > > mankind. Effortlessly, time passes over and onto, without you and
>> without
>> > > us. On it, we mark the acceptance of the new with the chance to begin
>> > > again
>> > > and give away the hand of the past, free of unadmissibles. Those who
>> are
>> > > punctual are thieves of time. Robbing from reserves of time that have
>> been
>> > >
>> > > designated for nothing. In time, time tells truths or at least the
>> truths
>> > > you've been waiting for. Time is the oldest living thing we own. Its
>> rate
>> > > of speed is constant and in all, infinite. Some never have enough
>time,
>> > > which are those people that are quick to reconize those who waste it.
>> Is
>> > > time or is it not? It has been said that seconds, minutes, hours,
>days,
>> > > weeks, months, years, decades and centuries are just about all the
>> average
>> > >
>> > > human can imagine and plan for. Millsart believes not. All that is
>> needed
>> > > to calculate is that 'one of these days is none of these days'. Now
>> that
>> > > you've read this, please be advised that Every Dog Has Its Day."
>>
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Re: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-08 Thread Analog Headz
i am not saying nothing about mills. but sagen and hawking?
i would touch their stuff about time too.
martin heidegger -time and being sounds better. or henri Bergson.

*BTW*
i am really like the music mills but it got nothing to do with that.
A

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>
>
> > The grammar is not the point at all ... (but it is just as bad in the
> > origianl notes as in the transcript, I'm afraid) The point is whether we
> > really think Jeff is adding a great deal to the history of Western
> > philosophy with all this? Of course the validity of temporality (or
not),
> > the beauty of the oppressed and rejected are noble topics and further,
> this
> > is not to suggest there's some sort of elitism about who can make a
point
> or
> > write anything on a particular subject ... but at the end of the day
(upon
> > which a dog will have his) facile, primary school sentiments are easily
> > recognisable as just that.
>
>
> If you buy CDs to be touched deep down inside by the liner notes, you will
> most likely be disappointed.
>
> if you want to read about time and space, get a book by carl sagan or
> stephen hawking.  turn to mills when you want hard techno.
>
> I personally think mills is being a bullshit artist because his writings
> sound a lot like your average guy trying to project intelligence through
> abstract CD liner rantings.
>
> dont get me wrong, he can write whatever he wants on cds and records, and
I
> encourage him to do so.  I just know better than to waste my time reading
> that wankery.
>
> remember, time and space = stephen hawking, banging techno = mills.
>
> I haven't slept in a while tho so I might just be grouchy :\
>
>
> -Joe
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Re: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-09 Thread Sunlight Data
That Mills stuff sounds like classic jive-nonsense talk.  I think
it's actually supposed to be funny; if you read it aloud it has
that kind of swing rhythm...

I don't think he is going for the Serious Jazz mode, or else he
*should* hire you to do the liner notes!

Just think, you could be the Ralph Gleason of the new decade ...

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Re: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-09 Thread s mcgill
I haven't really looked at this topic as it looked a bit too active but,
would this be a good time to ask whether anybody liked Mills' Mono?

That was his piece of art; I saw it at Sonar 2001.


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RE: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-09 Thread Odeluga, Ken
True. The embarrassment bit though ... hmmm. It's never crossed my mind
(ever) that techno was not an analogue or allegorical too what I feel to be
man's eternal yearning for the future ... But this yearning, does not seem
to be about technology per se (although the theme of what machines can do
for man has a certain poignancy to us who live in 'The Future' which
classical Sci-Fi envisaged, 'cause machines have expressly NOT liberated us
... certainly not our spirits) ... It's more about 'Electric Dreams' than
dreams about electricity.

I can understand however that not everyone who likes this spectrum of music,
is a dreamer ... :o)

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>I think some people are slightly embarrassed by the futurist
>philosophy/mythology that sometimes informs techno and look upon
>it with the
>same disdain as punks did on some of the excesses of progressive rock,
>musical or otherwise.
>
>Personally, I like some decorations, so to speak...be they heartfelt,
>insightful, tongue-in-cheek or just plain pretentious rubbish.
>
>Its always intriguing at the very least.
>
>
>
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: "Lester Kenyatta Spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>CC: 313@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: Re: [313] every dog vol 3
>>Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 08:30:30 -0800
>>
>>
>>Well, yes I see your point. The same could be said for classical music.
>>Very few musicians have presumed themselves to be good writers as
>well. But
>>as a music enthusiast, I am interested in how the music came about, not in
>>a set of imposed ideas about what the music means.
>>alastair
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Lester Kenyatta Spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 08/01/2002 04:26:07 PM
>>
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>>Subject:  Re: [313] every dog vol 3
>>
>>
>>On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>> > I don't think that musicians need writers to transform their work into
>> > something that is more meaningful. Most music is equivocal, and it is
>>this
>> > that has imbued it with so much power and meaning throughout
>history. If
>>an
>> > artist wants some sort of narrative to their work, you'd expect that
>>they
>> > would be able to string a few sentences together themselves.
>>
>>Well yes and no.  The bottom line is that the music should speak for
>>itself...it really doesn't NEED notes right?  I've got the cd, and it
>>would've STILL been played at full blast for nine hours straight on the
>>way home from the demf, without the notes.
>>
>>But if you're going to add another layer to it...why not use a WRITER?
>>This is the jazz model more or less...and it works.  Wynton Marsalis
>>doesn't write his liner notes...Stanley Crouch does.  Now in some cases
>>the artist is a qualified writer in his/her own rightbut I'd argue
>>that these cases are the minority.
>>
>>
>>peace
>>lks
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Re: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-09 Thread Stephen Kelly

fuck.. what's going on with this list these days?...

is anybody going to comment on how the record sounds -  or are you all happy 
debating how good/bad the sleeve notes are?.. two digests full of this shit 
about the sleeve notes and nobody has said anything about the record..


i'm right here aren't i?..

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FW: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-10 Thread Odeluga, Ken

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From: Ken Odeluga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 6:37 AM
To: Lester Kenyatta Spence
Subject: RE: [313] every dog vol 3


That could be interesting ... and I'm not being ironic.

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>Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 3:41 PM
>To: Odeluga, Ken
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>
>
>On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Odeluga, Ken wrote:
>
>> Hmmm ... I wouldn't go this far. You want to take someone's 
>inconsequential
>> writing and take liner notes to the next level?!?
>
>Nope.  I wouldn't mind taking someone's consequential SONGS and then tying
>them to a nuanced understanding of detroit, politics, and culture.
>
>
>peace
>lks
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FW: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-10 Thread Odeluga, Ken


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Wrong. The music gets mentioned almost in every posting; the general
consensus is that the music could stand tall, footnotes or not ... you have
a nice line in Anglo-Saxon bluster btw. Neat.

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>To: 313@hyperreal.org
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>
>
>fuck.. what's going on with this list these days?...
>
>is anybody going to comment on how the record sounds -  or are you
>all happy
>debating how good/bad the sleeve notes are?.. two digests full of
>this shit
>about the sleeve notes and nobody has said anything about the record..
>
>i'm right here aren't i?..
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Re: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-10 Thread rob webb
no, i think you're right Steve - a bunch of posts about the sleeve notes on 
Every Dog Vol 3, and (unless i've missed something) there's been nothing 
about the music on that particular record just yet... and talking about 
music, has anyone heard the new Drexciya 12"?




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Wrong. The music gets mentioned almost in every posting; the general
consensus is that the music could stand tall, footnotes or not ... you have
a nice line in Anglo-Saxon bluster btw. Neat.

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>From: Stephen Kelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:59 PM
>To: 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [313] every dog vol 3
>
>
>fuck.. what's going on with this list these days?...
>
>is anybody going to comment on how the record sounds -  or are you
>all happy
>debating how good/bad the sleeve notes are?.. two digests full of
>this shit
>about the sleeve notes and nobody has said anything about the record..
>
>i'm right here aren't i?..
>
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Re: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-10 Thread Otto

At 08:04 AM 1/10/02 +, you wrote:
>no, i think you're right Steve - a bunch of posts about the sleeve notes 
on Every Dog Vol 3, and (unless i've missed something) there's been nothing 
about the music on that particular record just yet...


Most likely due to the fact that it isn't out yet...
(the original post started with a quote from the Bent Crayon mailout, where 
you could only pre-order it since it isn't released yet)


> and talking about music, has anyone heard the new Drexciya 12"?

Yep, and didn't buy it. It's not bad by any means, but from Drexciya I just 
expect a little more.


Some recommendations: I quite like the new Dimension 5 - Control Complex on 
Delsin, looking forward to the album! Speaking  of albums, Fabrice Lig's 
forthcoming album on F-Com as Soul Designer hasn't left my CD player so 
far, top quality stuff as you'd come to expect. For the house heads: the 
Ibadan label can do no wrong in my book and the recent DJ Tools 2 release 
is definitely up to their high standards (don't let the title fool you btw, 
the tracks stand up very well on their own).


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RE: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-10 Thread Odeluga, Ken
ok - can I just ask about the cd of the same name (on Music Man): "Every Dog
..." ... Is that anything to do with vol 3 or am I hopelessly behind the
times? ...

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>To: 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [313] every dog vol 3
>
>
>At 08:04 AM 1/10/02 +, you wrote:
> >no, i think you're right Steve - a bunch of posts about the sleeve notes
>on Every Dog Vol 3, and (unless i've missed something) there's
>been nothing
>about the music on that particular record just yet...
>
>Most likely due to the fact that it isn't out yet...
>(the original post started with a quote from the Bent Crayon
>mailout, where
>you could only pre-order it since it isn't released yet)
>
> > and talking about music, has anyone heard the new Drexciya 12"?
>
>Yep, and didn't buy it. It's not bad by any means, but from
>Drexciya I just
>expect a little more.
>
>Some recommendations: I quite like the new Dimension 5 - Control
>Complex on
>Delsin, looking forward to the album! Speaking  of albums, Fabrice Lig's
>forthcoming album on F-Com as Soul Designer hasn't left my CD player so
>far, top quality stuff as you'd come to expect. For the house heads: the
>Ibadan label can do no wrong in my book and the recent DJ Tools 2 release
>is definitely up to their high standards (don't let the title fool
>you btw,
>the tracks stand up very well on their own).
>
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RE: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-10 Thread rob webb

Ken Odeluga:

ok - can I just ask about the cd of the same name (on Music Man): "Every 
Dog

..." ... Is that anything to do with vol 3 or am I hopelessly behind the
times? ...


i think the cd includes tracks from Vol1 and Vol2 (both of which are limited 
vinyl doublepacks on Axis).




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Re: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-10 Thread rob webb

Otto:


Most likely due to the fact that it isn't out yet...
(the original post started with a quote from the Bent Crayon mailout, where
you could only pre-order it since it isn't released yet)


yeah, i realise that.  so, for arguments sake, has anyone actually heard it, 
or are we stuck with discussing the sleevenotes?


btw, imho it seems like Mills writes his sleevenotes in German or perhaps 
French and then uses Babelfish to translate them into English.  anyone else 
think this is likely?




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Re: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-10 Thread neontsetse
> btw, imho it seems like Mills writes his sleevenotes in German or perhaps 
> French and then uses Babelfish to translate them into English.  anyone
else 
> think this is likely?
> 

Maybe that´s the reason why I do understand it :D 

but more serious also to Stephen - 

(with most respect 4 your great passion and work on 2playa) 

I think it´s important to discuss all the art and ideas 

connected to the music too - if you talk about music 

and it´s very important not to isolate the music from the 

way the musicians want it to be presented, 
 
the context they present themselves in - 

Otherwise you come to that one philosophy: 

"It´s only the music, that counts" (which is simular 2 "it´s only music")

Yes,  that is the philosophy for some artists  

but for some others, it´s NOT only about that -  

For some artists - the messages and emotional edits they put into their work


by using special artwork and words is very important too - 

otherwise it would all be about white nameless labels - 

without any words - which would interesting too - but it ain´t like that 

I do even miss more (respectfull) discussions here sometimes about the 

meanings of words and the artwork connected to the music - 

But I can never agree with people taking that out - 

isolating ideas, messages, when they are there - 


and to dig a lil deeper - older 313-debates - 

it sometimes seemed to me, that some people 

don´t want to hear "messages"  - especially, 

when it´s about "the struggle of my people" (Mike Grant) 

- kind of messages  - 

it´s a shame 4 every one, but a crime 4 any white man

to force to ignore messages like that -

cauze that´s a part of the big problems on this planet 

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RE: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-03-11 Thread Ian Cheshire
ahhh words that speak sense..

finally the 313 gets back to basics..

well done Jason!

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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] every dog vol 3


now available at bent crayon:

MILLSART: Every Dog Has Its Day Vol. 3 2x12" (AXIS). "In time, all 
wrongdoings are eligible for correction. Even in the eye of a storm, we 
must endure the invalid as a objective fragment in the existence of 
mankind. Effortlessly, time passes over and onto, without you and without 
us. On it, we mark the acceptance of the new with the chance to begin again 
and give away the hand of the past, free of unadmissibles. Those who are 
punctual are thieves of time. Robbing from reserves of time that have been 
designated for nothing. In time, time tells truths or at least the truths 
you've been waiting for. Time is the oldest living thing we own. Its rate 
of speed is constant and in all, infinite. Some never have enough time, 
which are those people that are quick to recognize those who waste it. Is 
time or is it not? It has been said that seconds, minutes, hours, days, 
weeks, months, years, decades and centuries are just about all the average 
human can imagine and plan for. Millsart believes not. All that is needed 
to calculate is that 'one of these days is none of these days'. Now that 
you've read this, please be advised that Every Dog Has Its Day." 
--Millsart  $16.99

$16.99 is roughly £12

sure beats £20 that some shops are looking for!

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www.bentcrayon.com 216.221.9200
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Re: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-03-11 Thread Toby Frith
I paid £22


It's top notch though.



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Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 3:55 PM
Subject: [313] every dog vol 3


> now available at bent crayon:
>
> MILLSART: Every Dog Has Its Day Vol. 3 2x12" (AXIS). "In time, all
> wrongdoings are eligible for correction. Even in the eye of a storm, we
> must endure the invalid as a objective fragment in the existence of
> mankind. Effortlessly, time passes over and onto, without you and without
> us. On it, we mark the acceptance of the new with the chance to begin
again
> and give away the hand of the past, free of unadmissibles. Those who are
> punctual are thieves of time. Robbing from reserves of time that have been
> designated for nothing. In time, time tells truths or at least the truths
> you've been waiting for. Time is the oldest living thing we own. Its rate
> of speed is constant and in all, infinite. Some never have enough time,
> which are those people that are quick to recognize those who waste it. Is
> time or is it not? It has been said that seconds, minutes, hours, days,
> weeks, months, years, decades and centuries are just about all the average
> human can imagine and plan for. Millsart believes not. All that is needed
> to calculate is that 'one of these days is none of these days'. Now that
> you've read this, please be advised that Every Dog Has Its Day."
> --Millsart  $16.99
>
> $16.99 is roughly £12
>
> sure beats £20 that some shops are looking for!
>
> bent crayon 11600 detroit ave cleveland oh 44102
> www.bentcrayon.com 216.221.9200
> www.hiaohiaohiao.com
>
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>
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Re: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-03-11 Thread alex.bond

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 Start of message text 

£23 for this double-pack in Manchester.
That's an outrage in my opinion.

I mean, some of the import 12's are £8.99 which is bad enough, but this is
£11.50 per twelve.
Someone is taking the piss somewhere. I wish I could boycott it, but you
know I'm not capable.
I guess that's why they know they can get away with it.

Anyway, if Jeff is on this list, I heard you already got a Porsche pal, so
I can't afford your new double pack cos me shoes need new soles.




Jason Donnelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 11/03/2002 15:55:17
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Subject:[313] every dog vol 3


now available at bent crayon:

MILLSART: Every Dog Has Its Day Vol. 3 2x12" (AXIS). "In time, all
wrongdoings are eligible for correction. Even in the eye of a storm, we
must endure the invalid as a objective fragment in the existence of
mankind. Effortlessly, time passes over and onto, without you and without
us. On it, we mark the acceptance of the new with the chance to begin again
and give away the hand of the past, free of unadmissibles. Those who are
punctual are thieves of time. Robbing from reserves of time that have been
designated for nothing. In time, time tells truths or at least the truths
you've been waiting for. Time is the oldest living thing we own. Its rate
of speed is constant and in all, infinite. Some never have enough time,
which are those people that are quick to recognize those who waste it. Is
time or is it not? It has been said that seconds, minutes, hours, days,
weeks, months, years, decades and centuries are just about all the average
human can imagine and plan for. Millsart believes not. All that is needed
to calculate is that 'one of these days is none of these days'. Now that
you've read this, please be advised that Every Dog Has Its Day."
--Millsart  $16.99

$16.99 is roughly £12

sure beats £20 that some shops are looking for!

bent crayon 11600 detroit ave cleveland oh 44102
www.bentcrayon.com 216.221.9200
www.hiaohiaohiao.com

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RE: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-03-11 Thread Neil Wallace

as far as i remember the other 2 were about 20 quid - i think they were
limited run and more albums than double packs hence the more expensive than
usual price tag. when you consider cds in chain stores are now above 15quid
and thats for a bloody CD which costs virtually nothing to manufacture i
think is not unreasonable.

if you think something is too expensive dont buy it then - if you do buy it
you obviously thought it was worth the price so quit bitching about it.

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:£23 for this double-pack in Manchester.
:That's an outrage in my opinion.
:
:I mean, some of the import 12's are £8.99 which is bad enough, but this is
:£11.50 per twelve.
:Someone is taking the piss somewhere. I wish I could boycott it, but you
:know I'm not capable.
:I guess that's why they know they can get away with it.
:
:Anyway, if Jeff is on this list, I heard you already got a Porsche pal, so
:I can't afford your new double pack cos me shoes need new soles.
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:now available at bent crayon:
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:MILLSART: Every Dog Has Its Day Vol. 3 2x12" (AXIS). "In time, all
:wrongdoings are eligible for correction. Even in the eye of a storm, we
:must endure the invalid as a objective fragment in the existence of
:mankind. Effortlessly, time passes over and onto, without you and without
:us. On it, we mark the acceptance of the new with the chance to begin again
:and give away the hand of the past, free of unadmissibles. Those who are
:punctual are thieves of time. Robbing from reserves of time that have been
:designated for nothing. In time, time tells truths or at least the truths
:you've been waiting for. Time is the oldest living thing we own. Its rate
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:human can imagine and plan for. Millsart believes not. All that is needed
:to calculate is that 'one of these days is none of these days'. Now that
:you've read this, please be advised that Every Dog Has Its Day."
:--Millsart  $16.99
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RE: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-03-11 Thread alex.bond

Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers

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That's my point though, album or double pack, this cost the same to
produce.
If someone was trying to sell twelves at £11.50, you'd think it was cheeky.

If no one moans, then everyone will start charging £23 for their albums.

I just can't see a reason for it, can anyone else? (There's no picture
sleeve, no heavy weight vinyl etc)
Maybe the production side cost more, but, then, I can't see that either.
There's no session musicians to be paid or anything.

I just would like to know if it's just me that thinks the piss is being
taken.
And, if anyone knows of a good reason why this LP cost more, let us all
know and maybe we won't mind putting our hands in our pockets.





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as far as i remember the other 2 were about 20 quid - i think they were
limited run and more albums than double packs hence the more expensive than
usual price tag. when you consider cds in chain stores are now above 15quid
and thats for a bloody CD which costs virtually nothing to manufacture i
think is not unreasonable.

if you think something is too expensive dont buy it then - if you do buy it
you obviously thought it was worth the price so quit bitching about it.

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:£23 for this double-pack in Manchester.
:That's an outrage in my opinion.
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:I mean, some of the import 12's are £8.99 which is bad enough, but this is
:£11.50 per twelve.
:Someone is taking the piss somewhere. I wish I could boycott it, but you
:know I'm not capable.
:I guess that's why they know they can get away with it.
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:Anyway, if Jeff is on this list, I heard you already got a Porsche pal, so
:I can't afford your new double pack cos me shoes need new soles.
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:now available at bent crayon:
:
:MILLSART: Every Dog Has Its Day Vol. 3 2x12" (AXIS). "In time, all
:wrongdoings are eligible for correction. Even in the eye of a storm, we
:must endure the invalid as a objective fragment in the existence of
:mankind. Effortlessly, time passes over and onto, without you and without
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:and give away the hand of the past, free of unadmissibles. Those who are
:punctual are thieves of time. Robbing from reserves of time that have been
:designated for nothing. In time, time tells truths or at least the truths
:you've been waiting for. Time is the oldest living thing we own. Its rate
:of speed is constant and in all, infinite. Some never have enough time,
:which are those people that are quick to recognize those who waste it. Is
:time or is it not? It has been said that seconds, minutes, hours, days,
:weeks, months, years, decades and centuries are just about all the average
:human can imagine and plan for. Millsart believes not. All that is needed
:to calculate is that 'one of these days is none of these days'. Now that
:you've read this, please be advised that Every Dog Has Its Day."
:--Millsart  $16.99
:
:$16.99 is roughly £12
:
:sure beats £20 that some shops are looking for!
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RE: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-03-11 Thread brendan . nelson
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| I just can't see a reason for it, can anyone else?

Well, the only reason I can think of is that a limited run results in a
larger overhead per copy pressed - especially if there's anything
'different' about the vinyl (locked grooves, backwards tracks and so on).
That probably doesn't justify it, though.

Plus, there's the collector-geek value to consider. Look at how much
original pressing of Minimal Nation are going for these days! Mills probably
knows that people will be flogging these records to one another for pretty
ridiculous sums within a few years, and might well be keen to get a bit of
that action himself...

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Fw: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-03-11 Thread innercity records
 that's ($16.99) the price in usa. obviously by the time it's shipped
> over the uk distributors need their profit and us shops need ours.
> we're selling them at £19.99 if anyone still needs a copy.
> we're probably joint cheapest in uk as usual.
>
> £8.95 for imports in manchester?  come to leeds it's
> between £7.25 - £7.95 and attitude free.
>
> paul, innercity.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Jason Donnelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 3:55 PM
> Subject: [313] every dog vol 3
>
>
> now available at bent crayon:
>
> MILLSART: Every Dog Has Its Day Vol. 3 2x12" (AXIS). "In time, all
> wrongdoings are eligible for correction. Even in the eye of a storm, we
> must endure the invalid as a objective fragment in the existence of
> mankind. Effortlessly, time passes over and onto, without you and without
> us. On it, we mark the acceptance of the new with the chance to begin
again
> and give away the hand of the past, free of unadmissibles. Those who are
> punctual are thieves of time. Robbing from reserves of time that have been
> designated for nothing. In time, time tells truths or at least the truths
> you've been waiting for. Time is the oldest living thing we own. Its rate
> of speed is constant and in all, infinite. Some never have enough time,
> which are those people that are quick to recognize those who waste it. Is
> time or is it not? It has been said that seconds, minutes, hours, days,
> weeks, months, years, decades and centuries are just about all the average
> human can imagine and plan for. Millsart believes not. All that is needed
> to calculate is that 'one of these days is none of these days'. Now that
> you've read this, please be advised that Every Dog Has Its Day."
> --Millsart  $16.99
>
> $16.99 is roughly £12
>
> sure beats £20 that some shops are looking for!
>
> bent crayon 11600 detroit ave cleveland oh 44102
> www.bentcrayon.com 216.221.9200
> www.hiaohiaohiao.com
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Re: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-03-11 Thread innercity records
that's ($16.99) the price in usa. obviously by the time it's shipped
over the uk distributors need their profit and us shops need ours.
we're selling them at £19.99 if anyone still needs a copy.
we're probably joint cheapest in uk as usual.

£8.95 for imports in manchester?  come to leeds it's
between £7.25 - £7.95 and attitude free.

paul, innercity.






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To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 3:55 PM
Subject: [313] every dog vol 3


now available at bent crayon:

MILLSART: Every Dog Has Its Day Vol. 3 2x12" (AXIS). "In time, all
wrongdoings are eligible for correction. Even in the eye of a storm, we
must endure the invalid as a objective fragment in the existence of
mankind. Effortlessly, time passes over and onto, without you and without
us. On it, we mark the acceptance of the new with the chance to begin again
and give away the hand of the past, free of unadmissibles. Those who are
punctual are thieves of time. Robbing from reserves of time that have been
designated for nothing. In time, time tells truths or at least the truths
you've been waiting for. Time is the oldest living thing we own. Its rate
of speed is constant and in all, infinite. Some never have enough time,
which are those people that are quick to recognize those who waste it. Is
time or is it not? It has been said that seconds, minutes, hours, days,
weeks, months, years, decades and centuries are just about all the average
human can imagine and plan for. Millsart believes not. All that is needed
to calculate is that 'one of these days is none of these days'. Now that
you've read this, please be advised that Every Dog Has Its Day."
--Millsart  $16.99

$16.99 is roughly £12

sure beats £20 that some shops are looking for!

bent crayon 11600 detroit ave cleveland oh 44102
www.bentcrayon.com 216.221.9200
www.hiaohiaohiao.com

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[313] Every Dog Vol 3 again...

2002-03-12 Thread rob webb
...and on the subject of Detroit techno, my copy of "Every Dog Has It's Day" 
Vol 3 arrived today.  i've only played it the once, but i've gotta say it's 
the best thing i've heard from Mills on Axis in feckin ages... perhaps since 
Humana.  if you're into Mills' more subtle and less pounding moments then 
you need to check this record out.


regarding the price, it's pressed on 2 lovely fat heavyweight pieces of 
vinyl!  i don't know if that accounts entirely for the price hike, but it 
might have something to do with it... after all, Warp are due to release a 
v.expensive (40 quid!) pressing of Aphex's "Drukqs" lp which is apparently 
being manufactured at some bad ass plant in California.  from the Warp site 
- "4 discs of highest grade vinyl (the best audiophile vinyl available, made 
at a single plant in California, with higher quality control and labour 
intensive manufacturing processes, and made of 100% virgin vinyl- not 
recycled) that will cost around £40.00."  so, um, there you go.




rob


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[313] RE: (313) every dog vol 3

2002-01-08 Thread Wibo.Lammerts
So what can we expect? Another 2 slabs of old, dusty tracks?

W

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Re: FW: [313] every dog vol 3

2002-01-08 Thread Kent williams
On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, Odeluga, Ken wrote:
>
> Great music, but I wish someone would deal with his grammar before
> publishing his notes. It's embarrassing. Might be due to the fact that
> they're usually put out by companies in countries where English is language
> II ...
>

Mills isn't stupid or illiterate. I've thought often I could punch up
his pronouncements, but I believe he's saying exactly what he means to say.
I thought his Every Dog 3 essay was actually pretty sneaky and clever.
He's talking as directly as he can about what, to my mind, is the central
theme of his music.

Just because someone's writing is difficult doesn't mean it's bad.  If you
want to deal with artists who are easy to understand, check out David Lee
Roth. If anyone wants me to annotate that little essay for them, I will.




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Re: [313] Every Dog Vol 3 again...

2002-03-12 Thread henrique casanova

> ...and on the subject of Detroit techno, my copy of "Every Dog Has
It's Day"
> Vol 3 arrived today.  i've only played it the once, but i've gotta
say it's
> the best thing i've heard from Mills on Axis in feckin ages...

and i dont know if you guys will agree, but this 3° vol. is much
closer to techno then the other two(thank god!!). at least in the
drums..



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Re: [313] Every Dog Vol 3 again...

2002-03-12 Thread rob webb

henrique casanova:


and i dont know if you guys will agree, but this 3° vol. is much
closer to techno then the other two(thank god!!). at least in the
drums..


i don't know that i feel quite right saying one record is more techno than 
another.  to me, techno is *so* much more than just the "right" sounds and 
structure.  it's difficult to put my finger on it, save for chucking around 
words like soulful and emotional, but there's a certain vibe running thru 
the tracks on Vol 3 that i'm a bit of a sucker for.




rob


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Re: [313] every dog vol. 3/arpanet

2002-03-26 Thread raoul
Oh yeah, i love the axis, i think it is old stuff from the master.

And as for the arpanet, heard it , and love it...
Haven't found a place that sells it yet though :(
I've heard the arpanet album as well, listening to it right now actually
And i think it's really a step further in the dataphysics sound.
I think i'm gonna power up my arpeggiator :)

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>
> This is my fav vol. of this series by jeff...very deep
> and damn good...wish he would put out more of this
> kinda stuff. Classic Detroit techno and highly
> recommended! I got my copy through groovetech and I
> think it was worth the $16 I paid for it. :)
>
> also gotta say I dug Tom's new one on Nordic Trax too!
> ;)
>
> anyone heard the new Arpanet (dopplereffekt) 12" on
> Air's new label Record Makers?
>
> minto
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Re: [313] every dog vol. 3 / quality of the recordings

2002-03-26 Thread Mad'R
It only has that nasty 'leeking' broom sound of noise in the back
which I thought was coming from my mixer.

Anyway I'm listening now for the first time
and I think It could be recorded before vol 1
or recorded elsewhere then vol 1

I still looking for some pushy/rolling basslines but they aren't there yet
;-)

MadR

btw nice car !!
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>
> This is my fav vol. of this series by jeff...very deep
> and damn good...wish he would put out more of this
> kinda stuff. Classic Detroit techno and highly
> recommended! I got my copy through groovetech and I
> think it was worth the $16 I paid for it. :)
>
> also gotta say I dug Tom's new one on Nordic Trax too!
> ;)
>
> anyone heard the new Arpanet (dopplereffekt) 12" on
> Air's new label Record Makers?
>
> minto
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