[AI] Good news: AI that describes the car ride scenery with Scenic Audio by Honda and Perkins

[Ashutosh Singhal]

I just watched a video. It is regarding Car ride description for Persons
With Visual Impairment. I thought I should share with you because It is
very good news for us. In the future  may bewe can drive a car with the
help of technology. YouTube video link:
https://youtube.com/shorts/xErnA4IYK7k?si=UNzxtvqCLFhphZ3y

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[AI] Good News regarding Google TTS English Indian Voices and New SmartCane news

[Ashutosh Singhal]

Good News: Google Disability Answer Desk Team has properly fixed the Google
TTS English Indian voices miss pronunciation bug number 0 as letter o in
the latest update.

Only sharing:: Below text in Hindi text so use your Hindi Voice in TTS.
Page number 1
Description:
Looks like newspaper in hindi with a picture of an indian woman
Text:
र
नेत्रहीनों के लिए आंख बनेगी यह जादू की छड़ी
विनीत चतुर्वेदी
लखनऊ। नेत्रहीनों के लिए
ऐसी जादू की छड़ी आ रही
है, जो उनके लिए वरदान
साबित होगी और दैनिक
कार्यों को आसान बनाएगी।
एआई आधारित जीपीएस,
मल्टीपल सैंसर्स, कैमरा,
स्पीकर, ब्लूट्थ आदि से लैस यह छड़ी
सामने आने वाले हर तरह के खतरों,
बाधाओं को देखकर उनकी भाषा में निर्देश
देकर और वाइब्रेट होकर सचेत करेगी।
प्रो. डॉ. पुष्पा चौधरी
इतना ही नहीं यह नेत्रहीनों के साथ
अनहोनी की स्थिति में घरवालों को मैसेज
के जरिये
लोकेशन और
जानकारियां भी देगी।
दृष्टिबाधितों के लिए
भीड़ भरे ट्रैपफिक में सड़क
पार करना, ट्रेनों में यात्रा
करना, उबड़-खाबड़ रास्तों
से गुजरना खतरा भरा होता
है। इसके लिए वे किसी पर
निर्भर रहते हैं। ऐसे में इनके लिए ग्रेटर
नोएडा स्थित गलगोटिया विश्वविद्यालय
की कंप्यूटर साइंस की प्रो. डॉ. पुष्पा
चौधरी ने स्मार्ट छड़ी विकसित की है। उप्र
विज्ञान एवं प्रोद्योगिकी परिषद ने इसके
लिए ग्रांट भी जारी की है।
उनकी
सारी
ऐसे काम करेशी स्मार्ट छड़ी
एआई आधारित इस छड़ी में लगे कैमरे व सेंसर्स दूर से
आने वाले किसी अवरोध, वाहन या छुट्टा जानवर आदि
को 50 मीटर दूर से ही देख-भांप लेंगे।
इसमें लगी वॉयस इनेबल्ड प्रेग्राम्ड चिप कान में
ईयरफोन के जरिये नेत्रहीनों को किसी भी चुनी हुई भाषा
में सचेत होने का निर्देश दे देंगी।
इस छड़ी में पानी और आग पहचानने वाले सेंसर्स लगे
हैं। ये राह में आने वाले पानी भरे गड़ढे या आग को दूर
से ही भांप लेंगे।
जीपीएस की मॉनीटरिंग के जरिये घरवाले इन्हें ट्रैक भी
कर सकेंगे। किसी अनहोनी की स्थिति में उन्हे फोन पर
मैसेज से लोकेशन व सारी जानकारी मिल सकेगी।
दूसरों पर
निर्भरता
होगी कम
दृष्टिबाधितों
के लिए यह स्मार्ट छड़ी
निश्चित ही वरदान साबित
होने वाली है। इससे दूसरों
पर उनकी निर्भरता कम
होगी और वे खुद सक्षम
बनेंगे। इससे उनका
सार्वजनिक जीवन
आसान होगा।
-डॉ. पूजा यादव, संयुक्त
निदेशक,उप्र. विज्ञान एवं
प्रोद्योगिकी परिषद

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[AI] Good News regarding Microsoft Seeing AI

[Ashutosh Singhal]

Good News: In Android Mobile, Microsoft Seeing AI App has given Hindi and
Marathi Language support, now We can also click a person photo and save
from his/her name for after Recognition and many more features we got in
the latest update.
Note: In the Photo Explore Feature we can literally explore the photo by
touch. You should definitely check the Explore Feature.
I got every time response on my every Feature Requests and Issue Report
from Microsoft Seeing AI Team so I can tell that Microsoft Seeing AI Team
give response as well as work on the User feedback. If you want to request
any feature request or report any bug. You can Email at
seein...@microsoft.com.
Ashutosh Singhal

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[AI] Good News regarding TalkBack

[Ashutosh Singhal]

Good news: Samsung TalkBack jumping issue which we used to face while
swiping right as well as left due to Samsung TalkBack 14.0 version bug has
been fixed almost 90%.

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Re: [AI] Good News regarding Sugamya Bharat App

[Ashutosh Singhal]

They are app developers. If they are denying the issues then they will not
fix it. Regarding Photo upload I already gave feedback on my previous post.
Sugamya Bharat App update came yesterday but no improvement happened in
Submit button issue. I have informed them sir told he will let me know
about it.
You gave 2 stars ratings on the PlayStore to this app generally app
developer fears from 1 star rating bro.

On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 at 18:51, Saurav Hegde  wrote:

> Hi,
> I appreciate you for your efforts.
> The app having issues is one thing and they denying those is another.
> And in-case you do not know, you are not able to upload photos as well.
> The dialogue box closes on clicking "okay," after reading the instructions.
>
> Thanks,
> Saurav
> Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 4:05 PM Ashutosh Singhal <
> ashutoshsinghal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>> Saurav, If you want you can also call me at +91 8076798104.
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Re: [AI] Good News regarding Sugamya Bharat App

[Saurav Hegde]

Hi,
I appreciate you for your efforts.
The app having issues is one thing and they denying those is another.
And in-case you do not know, you are not able to upload photos as well.
The dialogue box closes on clicking "okay," after reading the instructions.

Thanks,
Saurav
Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune


On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 4:05 PM Ashutosh Singhal <
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>
>> Saurav, If you want you can also call me at +91 8076798104.
>
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Re: [AI] Good News regarding Sugamya Bharat App

[Ashutosh Singhal]

Now mam and sir both phoned me,and said that within 48 hours PlayStore will
review our request and you will get an update because we have fixed the
Complaint Submit button issue. I can not tell anything that this is true or
again they are  lying.

On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 at 16:03, Ashutosh Singhal 
wrote:

> Thank you for letting me know about this issue. I also tried so many times
> but complaints were not submitted in the latest update. Second thing, If
> you open the app and not click on checkbox of Screen Reader Compatibility
> and audio option your unsent complaints will be visible.
> Regarding new issues, I talked with Sugamya Bharat mam and sir. First of
> all mam was not attending the call then I called sir but he was denying the
> issue and complaining about the Twiiter/X Post. He said we have fixed all
> the issues, Our testing team also told us about resolving the issues and
> many more lies. I refused to believe his talk and in the end talk gradually
> became worse. Within the minutes after the call, she called me and only
> tried to deny the issues, after some time accepted the issue after my proof
> and in the end asked for time to fix the issues and trying to cool down sir
> mistakes.
> Note: It is only a summary of the conversation with Sugamya Bharat App's
> mam and sir. I am not writing full conversation because that is not
> appropriate on the public platform and please do not share my conversation
> summary specially in the Twitter/X App unless I share. Thank you.
>
> On Wed, 10 Jan 2024 at 23:19, Saurav Hegde  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I tried doing the same as well.
>> I discovered something shocking, I am unable to register a complaint.
>> The app is not responding to double tapping on submit.
>> Like seriously!
>> Do try and let me know whether you face the same issue or no.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Saurav
>> Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 5:18 PM Ashutosh Singhal <
>> ashutoshsinghal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I believe that all your complaints have been sent because all my
>>> complaints have been sent including Dainik Bhaskar News Paper, Samsung and
>>> others complaints. Kindly check your email, however I will register a new
>>> complaint against a different platform and try to find out what will happen
>>> with my complaint.
>>>
>>> On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 at 23:49, Saurav Hegde  wrote:
>>>
 Hi,
 Yaa, that's indeed a good news and it is reflecting.
 Only, a new issue has arised, now no complaint is visible.

 Thanks,
 Saurav
 Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune


 On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 10:43 AM Ashutosh Singhal <
 ashutoshsinghal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sugamya Bharat App recently got update on 6 January 2024. It seems
> some issues have been fixed like Automatic Logout issue and Screen Reader
> inaccessibility with add new button.
> Ashutosh Singhal
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Re: [AI] Good News regarding Sugamya Bharat App

[Ashutosh Singhal]

>
>
> Saurav, If you want you can also call me at +91 8076798104.

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Re: [AI] Good News regarding Sugamya Bharat App

[Ashutosh Singhal]

Thank you for letting me know about this issue. I also tried so many times
but complaints were not submitted in the latest update. Second thing, If
you open the app and not click on checkbox of Screen Reader Compatibility
and audio option your unsent complaints will be visible.
Regarding new issues, I talked with Sugamya Bharat mam and sir. First of
all mam was not attending the call then I called sir but he was denying the
issue and complaining about the Twiiter/X Post. He said we have fixed all
the issues, Our testing team also told us about resolving the issues and
many more lies. I refused to believe his talk and in the end talk gradually
became worse. Within the minutes after the call, she called me and only
tried to deny the issues, after some time accepted the issue after my proof
and in the end asked for time to fix the issues and trying to cool down sir
mistakes.
Note: It is only a summary of the conversation with Sugamya Bharat App's
mam and sir. I am not writing full conversation because that is not
appropriate on the public platform and please do not share my conversation
summary specially in the Twitter/X App unless I share. Thank you.

On Wed, 10 Jan 2024 at 23:19, Saurav Hegde  wrote:

> Hi,
> I tried doing the same as well.
> I discovered something shocking, I am unable to register a complaint.
> The app is not responding to double tapping on submit.
> Like seriously!
> Do try and let me know whether you face the same issue or no.
>
> Thanks,
> Saurav
> Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 5:18 PM Ashutosh Singhal <
> ashutoshsinghal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I believe that all your complaints have been sent because all my
>> complaints have been sent including Dainik Bhaskar News Paper, Samsung and
>> others complaints. Kindly check your email, however I will register a new
>> complaint against a different platform and try to find out what will happen
>> with my complaint.
>>
>> On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 at 23:49, Saurav Hegde  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Yaa, that's indeed a good news and it is reflecting.
>>> Only, a new issue has arised, now no complaint is visible.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Saurav
>>> Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 10:43 AM Ashutosh Singhal <
>>> ashutoshsinghal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Sugamya Bharat App recently got update on 6 January 2024. It seems some
 issues have been fixed like Automatic Logout issue and Screen Reader
 inaccessibility with add new button.
 Ashutosh Singhal

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Re: [AI] Good News regarding Sugamya Bharat App

[Saurav Hegde]

Hi,
I tried doing the same as well.
I discovered something shocking, I am unable to register a complaint.
The app is not responding to double tapping on submit.
Like seriously!
Do try and let me know whether you face the same issue or no.

Thanks,
Saurav
Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune


On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 5:18 PM Ashutosh Singhal <
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> I believe that all your complaints have been sent because all my
> complaints have been sent including Dainik Bhaskar News Paper, Samsung and
> others complaints. Kindly check your email, however I will register a new
> complaint against a different platform and try to find out what will happen
> with my complaint.
>
> On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 at 23:49, Saurav Hegde  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> Yaa, that's indeed a good news and it is reflecting.
>> Only, a new issue has arised, now no complaint is visible.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Saurav
>> Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 10:43 AM Ashutosh Singhal <
>> ashutoshsinghal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sugamya Bharat App recently got update on 6 January 2024. It seems some
>>> issues have been fixed like Automatic Logout issue and Screen Reader
>>> inaccessibility with add new button.
>>> Ashutosh Singhal
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Re: [AI] Good News regarding Sugamya Bharat App

[Ashutosh Singhal]

I believe that all your complaints have been sent because all my complaints
have been sent including Dainik Bhaskar News Paper, Samsung and others
complaints. Kindly check your email, however I will register a new
complaint against a different platform and try to find out what will happen
with my complaint.

On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 at 23:49, Saurav Hegde  wrote:

> Hi,
> Yaa, that's indeed a good news and it is reflecting.
> Only, a new issue has arised, now no complaint is visible.
>
> Thanks,
> Saurav
> Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 10:43 AM Ashutosh Singhal <
> ashutoshsinghal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sugamya Bharat App recently got update on 6 January 2024. It seems some
>> issues have been fixed like Automatic Logout issue and Screen Reader
>> inaccessibility with add new button.
>> Ashutosh Singhal
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Re: [AI] Good News regarding Sugamya Bharat App

[Saurav Hegde]

Hi,
Yaa, that's indeed a good news and it is reflecting.
Only, a new issue has arised, now no complaint is visible.

Thanks,
Saurav
Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune


On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 10:43 AM Ashutosh Singhal <
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> Sugamya Bharat App recently got update on 6 January 2024. It seems some
> issues have been fixed like Automatic Logout issue and Screen Reader
> inaccessibility with add new button.
> Ashutosh Singhal
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[AI] Good News regarding Sugamya Bharat App

[Ashutosh Singhal]

Sugamya Bharat App recently got update on 6 January 2024. It seems some
issues have been fixed like Automatic Logout issue and Screen Reader
inaccessibility with add new button.
Ashutosh Singhal

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Re: [AI] Good News

[Amar Jain]

Bhim would have got or will get shortly a notice from CCPD. Thank you.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 15, 2023, at 19:59, Harshit Lohia  wrote:
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>> On 11/14/23, Ashutosh Singhal  wrote:
>> I complained to the Bhim App and my local Branch of Canara Bank yesterday.
>> I got responses from both complained and When I visited my local Canara
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>> Their behaviour literally shocked me.
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Re: [AI] Good News

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Hi,
Through this e-mail I urge upon every list member to approach RBI
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service by their banks on account of disability. Please also remember
to quote RBI's circular on Banking Facilities for Seniour Citizens and
Differently Abled Persons dated November 9, 2017 in their complaints.

Regards
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On 11/14/23, Ashutosh Singhal  wrote:
> I complained to the Bhim App and my local Branch of Canara Bank yesterday.
> I got responses from both complained and When I visited my local Canara
> Bank Branch today. Staff behaviour was better than my previous experiences.
> Their behaviour literally shocked me.
> Regards:
> Ashutosh Singhal
> My contact number is:
> 8076798104
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[AI] Good News

[Ashutosh Singhal]

I complained to the Bhim App and my local Branch of Canara Bank yesterday.
I got responses from both complained and When I visited my local Canara
Bank Branch today. Staff behaviour was better than my previous experiences.
Their behaviour literally shocked me.
Regards:
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My contact number is:
8076798104

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[AI] Good news for Punjabi language speakers! Google text to speech now added Punjabi voice.

[Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi]

Update your Google tts engine app from playstore to get Punjabi (India)
voice.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.tts

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Re: [AI] Good news for iPhone users, specially visually challengedusers:

[Mohib Anwar Rafay]

In case add button is not appearing in android phone, do the following:
1. Focus the item you want to add
2. Take talkback global context menu
3. Choose actions
4. You will see the option to add the item, in same way you can
increment or decrement items from the cart.

On 9/25/21, Harshit Lohia  wrote:
> I had faced similar problems with Swiggy android ap since past few
> months. The problem is now resolved. Update your Swiggy android app
> and it may work for you too.
>
> On 9/24/21, gufran ahmed  wrote:
>> I am not able to add itum in cart. In android. Please guide. When I tap
>> with
>> 3 fingurs, it says go to cart for place order.
>> Please guide.
>>
>> Sent from Mail for Windows
>>
>> From: Aravind R
>> Sent: 23 September 2021 19:09
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for iPhone users, specially visually
>> challengedusers:
>>
>> nice initiative. thank you.
>>
>> On 23/09/2021, Tanmay Srivastava 2861  wrote:
>>> Android application of swiggy is almost accessible.
>>>
>>> Only at the time of checkout talkback does not recognize proceed to pay
>>> button.
>>>
>>> However there is a way to tackle this using talkback menu.
>>>
>>> I hope it will be resolve soon as well.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2021, 5:52 PM NAB Delhi Helpline 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Namaste!
>>>>
>>>> Good news for iPhone users, specially visually challenged users.
>>>> Food ordering from Swiggy is now accessible for vision and motion
>>>> impaired users with the voiceover feature.
>>>> Motion impaired users can now navigate and place orders using external
>>>> switch access devices. making Swiggy more inclusive and accessible.
>>>> we'll have updates to share in subsequent releases.
>>>> With this update, we have hit the first milestone in the journey to
>>>> equal access.
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> *Helpline for the Blind*
>>>>
>>>> [image: NAB original logo]
>>>>
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Re: [AI] Good news for iPhone users, specially visually challengedusers:

[Harshit Lohia]

I had faced similar problems with Swiggy android ap since past few
months. The problem is now resolved. Update your Swiggy android app
and it may work for you too.

On 9/24/21, gufran ahmed  wrote:
> I am not able to add itum in cart. In android. Please guide. When I tap with
> 3 fingurs, it says go to cart for place order.
> Please guide.
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows
>
> From: Aravind R
> Sent: 23 September 2021 19:09
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for iPhone users, specially visually
> challengedusers:
>
> nice initiative. thank you.
>
> On 23/09/2021, Tanmay Srivastava 2861  wrote:
>> Android application of swiggy is almost accessible.
>>
>> Only at the time of checkout talkback does not recognize proceed to pay
>> button.
>>
>> However there is a way to tackle this using talkback menu.
>>
>> I hope it will be resolve soon as well.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2021, 5:52 PM NAB Delhi Helpline 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Namaste!
>>>
>>> Good news for iPhone users, specially visually challenged users.
>>> Food ordering from Swiggy is now accessible for vision and motion
>>> impaired users with the voiceover feature.
>>> Motion impaired users can now navigate and place orders using external
>>> switch access devices. making Swiggy more inclusive and accessible.
>>> we'll have updates to share in subsequent releases.
>>> With this update, we have hit the first milestone in the journey to
>>> equal access.
>>>
>>> --
>>> With warm regards,
>>> *Helpline for the Blind*
>>>
>>> [image: NAB original logo]
>>>
>>> *National Association for the Blind*
>>> Sector-5, R.K. Puram, New Delhi – 110022 India
>>> NAB Helpdesk Direct Numbers: +91 8826261166, 9212319672 Monday -
>>> Saturday
>>> 10 AM to 5 PM
>>>  Email: helpl...@nabdelhi.in
>>> Website: http://www.nabdelhi.in
>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/nabdelhionline
>>> YouTube link
>>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSR__KpO4LdjmPzEqWZs6wQ?
>>> Please subscribe to this YouTube channel, you can watch recordings of
>>> previous NAB Delhi webinars here. More webinars will be stremed live
>>> here.
>>> NAB Delhi is now active on Twitter.
>>> Check out NAB Delhi (@nabdelhionline):
>>> https://twitter.com/nabdelhionline?s=09
>>> Support Us, donate online http://www.nabdelhi.in/donate/
>>> Income Tax Exemption under Section 80G
>>> 
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> --
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>>> the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its
>>> veracity;
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>>> mails
>>> sent through this mailing list..
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>>>
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>>> .
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Disclaimer:
>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of
>> the
>> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity;
>>
>> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the
>> mails
>> sent through this mailing list..
>>
>>
>> Search for old postings at:
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>>
>
>
> --
>
>
> --
> --
> nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so

Re: [AI] Good news for iPhone users, specially visually challengedusers:

[gufran ahmed]

Two days back I have have installed that app from Play Store but there was
no such option. However I will try again

On Fri, 24 Sep, 2021, 11:33 am Tanmay Srivastava 2861, <
tanmaysri1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Please update your app.
>
> Once you do that talkback will recognize add item button.
>
> I hope it helps.
>
> On Fri, Sep 24, 2021, 10:15 AM gufran ahmed 
> wrote:
>
>> I am not able to add itum in cart. In android. Please guide. When I tap
>> with 3 fingurs, it says go to cart for place order.
>>
>> Please guide.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>> Windows
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Aravind R 
>> *Sent: *23 September 2021 19:09
>> *To: *accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> *Subject: *Re: [AI] Good news for iPhone users, specially visually
>> challengedusers:
>>
>>
>>
>> nice initiative. thank you.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 23/09/2021, Tanmay Srivastava 2861  wrote:
>>
>> > Android application of swiggy is almost accessible.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Only at the time of checkout talkback does not recognize proceed to pay
>>
>> > button.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > However there is a way to tackle this using talkback menu.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > I hope it will be resolve soon as well.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > On Thu, Sep 23, 2021, 5:52 PM NAB Delhi Helpline 
>>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >
>>
>> >> Namaste!
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> Good news for iPhone users, specially visually challenged users.
>>
>> >> Food ordering from Swiggy is now accessible for vision and motion
>>
>> >> impaired users with the voiceover feature.
>>
>> >> Motion impaired users can now navigate and place orders using external
>>
>> >> switch access devices. making Swiggy more inclusive and accessible.
>>
>> >> we'll have updates to share in subsequent releases.
>>
>> >> With this update, we have hit the first milestone in the journey to
>>
>> >> equal access.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> --
>>
>> >> With warm regards,
>>
>> >> *Helpline for the Blind*
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> [image: NAB original logo]
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> *National Association for the Blind*
>>
>> >> Sector-5, R.K. Puram, New Delhi – 110022 India
>>
>> >> NAB Helpdesk Direct Numbers: +91 8826261166, 9212319672 Monday -
>> Saturday
>>
>> >> 10 AM to 5 PM
>>
>> >>  Email: helpl...@nabdelhi.in
>>
>> >> Website: http://www.nabdelhi.in
>>
>> >> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/nabdelhionline
>>
>> >> YouTube link
>>
>> >> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSR__KpO4LdjmPzEqWZs6wQ?
>>
>> >> Please subscribe to this YouTube channel, you can watch recordings of
>>
>> >> previous NAB Delhi webinars here. More webinars will be stremed live
>>
>> >> here.
>>
>> >> NAB Delhi is now active on Twitter.
>>
>> >> Check out NAB Delhi (@nabdelhionline):
>>
>> >> https://twitter.com/nabdelhionline?s=09
>>
>> >> Support Us, donate online http://www.nabdelhi.in/donate/
>>
>> >> Income Tax Exemption under Section 80G
>>
>> >> 
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> --
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> --
>>
>> >> Disclaimer:
>>
>> >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking
>> of
>>
>> >> the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its
>>
>> >> veracity;
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the
>>
>> >> mails
>>
>> >> sent through this mailing list..
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> Search for old postings at:
>>
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Re: [AI] Good news for iPhone users, specially visually challengedusers:

[Tanmay Srivastava 2861]

Please update your app.

Once you do that talkback will recognize add item button.

I hope it helps.

On Fri, Sep 24, 2021, 10:15 AM gufran ahmed 
wrote:

> I am not able to add itum in cart. In android. Please guide. When I tap
> with 3 fingurs, it says go to cart for place order.
>
> Please guide.
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows
>
>
>
> *From: *Aravind R 
> *Sent: *23 September 2021 19:09
> *To: *accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> *Subject: *Re: [AI] Good news for iPhone users, specially visually
> challengedusers:
>
>
>
> nice initiative. thank you.
>
>
>
> On 23/09/2021, Tanmay Srivastava 2861  wrote:
>
> > Android application of swiggy is almost accessible.
>
> >
>
> > Only at the time of checkout talkback does not recognize proceed to pay
>
> > button.
>
> >
>
> > However there is a way to tackle this using talkback menu.
>
> >
>
> > I hope it will be resolve soon as well.
>
> >
>
> > On Thu, Sep 23, 2021, 5:52 PM NAB Delhi Helpline 
>
> > wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> Namaste!
>
> >>
>
> >> Good news for iPhone users, specially visually challenged users.
>
> >> Food ordering from Swiggy is now accessible for vision and motion
>
> >> impaired users with the voiceover feature.
>
> >> Motion impaired users can now navigate and place orders using external
>
> >> switch access devices. making Swiggy more inclusive and accessible.
>
> >> we'll have updates to share in subsequent releases.
>
> >> With this update, we have hit the first milestone in the journey to
>
> >> equal access.
>
> >>
>
> >> --
>
> >> With warm regards,
>
> >> *Helpline for the Blind*
>
> >>
>
> >> [image: NAB original logo]
>
> >>
>
> >> *National Association for the Blind*
>
> >> Sector-5, R.K. Puram, New Delhi – 110022 India
>
> >> NAB Helpdesk Direct Numbers: +91 8826261166, 9212319672 Monday -
> Saturday
>
> >> 10 AM to 5 PM
>
> >>  Email: helpl...@nabdelhi.in
>
> >> Website: http://www.nabdelhi.in
>
> >> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/nabdelhionline
>
> >> YouTube link
>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSR__KpO4LdjmPzEqWZs6wQ?
>
> >> Please subscribe to this YouTube channel, you can watch recordings of
>
> >> previous NAB Delhi webinars here. More webinars will be stremed live
>
> >> here.
>
> >> NAB Delhi is now active on Twitter.
>
> >> Check out NAB Delhi (@nabdelhionline):
>
> >> https://twitter.com/nabdelhionline?s=09
>
> >> Support Us, donate online http://www.nabdelhi.in/donate/
>
> >> Income Tax Exemption under Section 80G
>
> >> 
>
> >>
>
> >> --
>
> >>
>
> >> --
>
> >> Disclaimer:
>
> >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of
>
> >> the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its
>
> >> veracity;
>
> >>
>
> >> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the
>
> >> mails
>
> >> sent through this mailing list..
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> Search for old postings at:
>
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>
> >> .
>
> >>
>
> >
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>
> > Disclaimer:
>
> > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of
> the
>
> > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity;
>
> >
>
> > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the
> mails
>
> > sent through this mailing list..
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Search for old postings at:
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RE: [AI] Good news for iPhone users, specially visually challengedusers:

[gufran ahmed]

I am not able to add itum in cart. In android. Please guide. When I tap with 3 
fingurs, it says go to cart for place order.
Please guide.

Sent from Mail for Windows

From: Aravind R
Sent: 23 September 2021 19:09
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for iPhone users, specially visually 
challengedusers:

nice initiative. thank you.

On 23/09/2021, Tanmay Srivastava 2861  wrote:
> Android application of swiggy is almost accessible.
>
> Only at the time of checkout talkback does not recognize proceed to pay
> button.
>
> However there is a way to tackle this using talkback menu.
>
> I hope it will be resolve soon as well.
>
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2021, 5:52 PM NAB Delhi Helpline 
> wrote:
>
>> Namaste!
>>
>> Good news for iPhone users, specially visually challenged users.
>> Food ordering from Swiggy is now accessible for vision and motion
>> impaired users with the voiceover feature.
>> Motion impaired users can now navigate and place orders using external
>> switch access devices. making Swiggy more inclusive and accessible.
>> we'll have updates to share in subsequent releases.
>> With this update, we have hit the first milestone in the journey to
>> equal access.
>>
>> --
>> With warm regards,
>> *Helpline for the Blind*
>>
>> [image: NAB original logo]
>>
>> *National Association for the Blind*
>> Sector-5, R.K. Puram, New Delhi – 110022 India
>> NAB Helpdesk Direct Numbers: +91 8826261166, 9212319672 Monday - Saturday
>> 10 AM to 5 PM
>>  Email: helpl...@nabdelhi.in
>> Website: http://www.nabdelhi.in
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/nabdelhionline
>> YouTube link
>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSR__KpO4LdjmPzEqWZs6wQ?
>> Please subscribe to this YouTube channel, you can watch recordings of
>> previous NAB Delhi webinars here. More webinars will be stremed live
>> here.
>> NAB Delhi is now active on Twitter.
>> Check out NAB Delhi (@nabdelhionline):
>> https://twitter.com/nabdelhionline?s=09
>> Support Us, donate online http://www.nabdelhi.in/donate/
>> Income Tax Exemption under Section 80G
>> 
>>
>> --
>>
>> --
>> Disclaimer:
>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of
>> the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its
>> veracity;
>>
>> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the
>> mails
>> sent through this mailing list..
>>
>>
>> Search for old postings at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
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>> .
>>
>
> --
> Disclaimer:
> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the
> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity;
>
> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails
> sent through this mailing list..
>
>
> Search for old postings at:
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>


-- 


-- 
-- 
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda specialised mortgage store, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593,
email id : aravind_...@yahoo.com, aravind.andhrab...@gmail.com.
aravind.rajend...@bankofbaroda.co.in.

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Re: [AI] Good news for iPhone users, specially visually challenged users:

[Aravind R]

nice initiative. thank you.

On 23/09/2021, Tanmay Srivastava 2861  wrote:
> Android application of swiggy is almost accessible.
>
> Only at the time of checkout talkback does not recognize proceed to pay
> button.
>
> However there is a way to tackle this using talkback menu.
>
> I hope it will be resolve soon as well.
>
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2021, 5:52 PM NAB Delhi Helpline 
> wrote:
>
>> Namaste!
>>
>> Good news for iPhone users, specially visually challenged users.
>> Food ordering from Swiggy is now accessible for vision and motion
>> impaired users with the voiceover feature.
>> Motion impaired users can now navigate and place orders using external
>> switch access devices. making Swiggy more inclusive and accessible.
>> we'll have updates to share in subsequent releases.
>> With this update, we have hit the first milestone in the journey to
>> equal access.
>>
>> --
>> With warm regards,
>> *Helpline for the Blind*
>>
>> [image: NAB original logo]
>>
>> *National Association for the Blind*
>> Sector-5, R.K. Puram, New Delhi – 110022 India
>> NAB Helpdesk Direct Numbers: +91 8826261166, 9212319672 Monday - Saturday
>> 10 AM to 5 PM
>>  Email: helpl...@nabdelhi.in
>> Website: http://www.nabdelhi.in
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/nabdelhionline
>> YouTube link
>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSR__KpO4LdjmPzEqWZs6wQ?
>> Please subscribe to this YouTube channel, you can watch recordings of
>> previous NAB Delhi webinars here. More webinars will be stremed live
>> here.
>> NAB Delhi is now active on Twitter.
>> Check out NAB Delhi (@nabdelhionline):
>> https://twitter.com/nabdelhionline?s=09
>> Support Us, donate online http://www.nabdelhi.in/donate/
>> Income Tax Exemption under Section 80G
>> 
>>
>> --
>>
>> --
>> Disclaimer:
>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of
>> the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its
>> veracity;
>>
>> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the
>> mails
>> sent through this mailing list..
>>
>>
>> Search for old postings at:
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>>
>
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>


-- 


-- 
-- 
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda specialised mortgage store, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593,
email id : aravind_...@yahoo.com, aravind.andhrab...@gmail.com.
aravind.rajend...@bankofbaroda.co.in.

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Re: [AI] Good news for iPhone users, specially visually challenged users:

[Tanmay Srivastava 2861]

Android application of swiggy is almost accessible.

Only at the time of checkout talkback does not recognize proceed to pay
button.

However there is a way to tackle this using talkback menu.

I hope it will be resolve soon as well.

On Thu, Sep 23, 2021, 5:52 PM NAB Delhi Helpline 
wrote:

> Namaste!
>
> Good news for iPhone users, specially visually challenged users.
> Food ordering from Swiggy is now accessible for vision and motion
> impaired users with the voiceover feature.
> Motion impaired users can now navigate and place orders using external
> switch access devices. making Swiggy more inclusive and accessible.
> we'll have updates to share in subsequent releases.
> With this update, we have hit the first milestone in the journey to
> equal access.
>
> --
> With warm regards,
> *Helpline for the Blind*
>
> [image: NAB original logo]
>
> *National Association for the Blind*
> Sector-5, R.K. Puram, New Delhi – 110022 India
> NAB Helpdesk Direct Numbers: +91 8826261166, 9212319672 Monday - Saturday
> 10 AM to 5 PM
>  Email: helpl...@nabdelhi.in
> Website: http://www.nabdelhi.in
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/nabdelhionline
> YouTube link
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSR__KpO4LdjmPzEqWZs6wQ?
> Please subscribe to this YouTube channel, you can watch recordings of
> previous NAB Delhi webinars here. More webinars will be stremed live
> here.
> NAB Delhi is now active on Twitter.
> Check out NAB Delhi (@nabdelhionline):
> https://twitter.com/nabdelhionline?s=09
> Support Us, donate online http://www.nabdelhi.in/donate/
> Income Tax Exemption under Section 80G
> 
>
> --
>
> --
> Disclaimer:
> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of
> the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity;
>
> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails
> sent through this mailing list..
>
>
> Search for old postings at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
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Re: [AI] Good news! Lookout from Google is now available to all!

[Aman Preet Singh]

No sir, it's not available for Android, that's why  Google has made a
similar app for us called Google lookout

On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 10:16 PM Vaibhav Saraf 
wrote:

> Hi Aman,
>
> Is the Microsoft's app available for Android as well?, probably with a
> different name?
>
> Thanks,
> Vaibhav
>
>
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 at 21:38, Aman Preet Singh  wrote:
>
>> I think it's not available for iPhone. Google lookout has similar
>> features like Microsoft's seeing AI app on iPhone, you can accept that
>> Google lookout is an Android version of iPhone's seeing AI. Regards, Aman.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 9:08 PM Sakina Dhariwala 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi friend, Is it available for IPhone?
>>>
>>> - Original Message -----
>>> From: "Satguru Rathi" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: August 24, 2020 02:44 PM
>>> Subject: [AI] Good news! Lookout from Google is now available to all!
>>>
>>>
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Excuse me if this has been posted here but I saw it on some other list
>>> so
>>> > thought to share hoping it may interest some. The Lookout app from
>>> Google
>>> > has been made available to everyone including in India on Android
>>> devices
>>> > running Android 5 or above.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > For those who don't know about this app, or want a direct link for
>>> > downloading, please visit the play store link:
>>> >
>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.accessibility.reveal=en_IN
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I've installed on my Nokia 6.1 Plus and is working wonders!
>>> >
>>> > Good bye the so called OCR apps who want a hefty subscription price!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Best,
>>> >
>>> > Satguru.
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Re: [AI] Good news! Lookout from Google is now available to all!

[Vaibhav Saraf]

Hi Aman,

Is the Microsoft's app available for Android as well?, probably with a
different name?

Thanks,
Vaibhav


On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 at 21:38, Aman Preet Singh  wrote:

> I think it's not available for iPhone. Google lookout has similar features
> like Microsoft's seeing AI app on iPhone, you can accept that Google
> lookout is an Android version of iPhone's seeing AI. Regards, Aman.
>
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 9:08 PM Sakina Dhariwala 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi friend, Is it available for IPhone?
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Satguru Rathi" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: August 24, 2020 02:44 PM
>> Subject: [AI] Good news! Lookout from Google is now available to all!
>>
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> >
>> > Excuse me if this has been posted here but I saw it on some other list
>> so
>> > thought to share hoping it may interest some. The Lookout app from
>> Google
>> > has been made available to everyone including in India on Android
>> devices
>> > running Android 5 or above.
>> >
>> >
>> > For those who don't know about this app, or want a direct link for
>> > downloading, please visit the play store link:
>> >
>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.accessibility.reveal=en_IN
>> >
>> >
>> > I've installed on my Nokia 6.1 Plus and is working wonders!
>> >
>> > Good bye the so called OCR apps who want a hefty subscription price!
>> >
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Satguru.
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Re: [AI] Good news! Lookout from Google is now available to all!

[Aman Preet Singh]

I think it's not available for iPhone. Google lookout has similar features
like Microsoft's seeing AI app on iPhone, you can accept that Google
lookout is an Android version of iPhone's seeing AI. Regards, Aman.

On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 9:08 PM Sakina Dhariwala  wrote:

> Hi friend, Is it available for IPhone?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Satguru Rathi" 
> To: 
> Sent: August 24, 2020 02:44 PM
> Subject: [AI] Good news! Lookout from Google is now available to all!
>
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> >
> > Excuse me if this has been posted here but I saw it on some other list
> so
> > thought to share hoping it may interest some. The Lookout app from
> Google
> > has been made available to everyone including in India on Android
> devices
> > running Android 5 or above.
> >
> >
> > For those who don't know about this app, or want a direct link for
> > downloading, please visit the play store link:
> >
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.accessibility.reveal=en_IN
> >
> >
> > I've installed on my Nokia 6.1 Plus and is working wonders!
> >
> > Good bye the so called OCR apps who want a hefty subscription price!
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Satguru.
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Re: [AI] Good news! Lookout from Google is now available to all!

[Maruti Paramwad]

Hello Sakina,

Greetings!
no Lookout is not available for the iPhone. this is a googles project
hence iOS is not compateble.

On 8/24/20, Sakina Dhariwala  wrote:
> Hi friend, Is it available for IPhone?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Satguru Rathi" 
> To: 
> Sent: August 24, 2020 02:44 PM
> Subject: [AI] Good news! Lookout from Google is now available to all!
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>> Excuse me if this has been posted here but I saw it on some other list so
>>
>> thought to share hoping it may interest some. The Lookout app from Google
>>
>> has been made available to everyone including in India on Android devices
>>
>> running Android 5 or above.
>>
>>
>> For those who don't know about this app, or want a direct link for
>> downloading, please visit the play store link:
>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.accessibility.reveal=en_IN
>>
>>
>> I've installed on my Nokia 6.1 Plus and is working wonders!
>>
>> Good bye the so called OCR apps who want a hefty subscription price!
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Satguru.
>>
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Re: [AI] Good news! Lookout from Google is now available to all!

[Sakina Dhariwala]

Hi friend, Is it available for IPhone?

- Original Message - 
From: "Satguru Rathi" 

To: 
Sent: August 24, 2020 02:44 PM
Subject: [AI] Good news! Lookout from Google is now available to all!



Hi all,


Excuse me if this has been posted here but I saw it on some other list so 
thought to share hoping it may interest some. The Lookout app from Google 
has been made available to everyone including in India on Android devices 
running Android 5 or above.



For those who don't know about this app, or want a direct link for 
downloading, please visit the play store link: 
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.accessibility.reveal=en_IN



I've installed on my Nokia 6.1 Plus and is working wonders!

Good bye the so called OCR apps who want a hefty subscription price!


Best,

Satguru.

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Re: [AI] Good news! Lookout from Google is now available to all!

[Vaibhav Saraf]

Hi,

Have you tried it with some handwritten content? If yes, please share the
experience. I have tried it mostly reading images containing text till now
and it worked satisfactorily in all but one case.

Thanks,
Vaibhav


On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 at 14:44, Satguru Rathi  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
> Excuse me if this has been posted here but I saw it on some other list
> so thought to share hoping it may interest some. The Lookout app from
> Google has been made available to everyone including in India on Android
> devices running Android 5 or above.
>
>
> For those who don't know about this app, or want a direct link for
> downloading, please visit the play store link:
>
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.accessibility.reveal=en_IN
>
>
> I've installed on my Nokia 6.1 Plus and is working wonders!
>
> Good bye the so called OCR apps who want a hefty subscription price!
>
>
> Best,
>
> Satguru.
>
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[AI] Good news! Lookout from Google is now available to all!

[Satguru Rathi]

Hi all,


Excuse me if this has been posted here but I saw it on some other list 
so thought to share hoping it may interest some. The Lookout app from 
Google has been made available to everyone including in India on Android 
devices running Android 5 or above.



For those who don't know about this app, or want a direct link for 
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.accessibility.reveal=en_IN



I've installed on my Nokia 6.1 Plus and is working wonders!

Good bye the so called OCR apps who want a hefty subscription price!


Best,

Satguru.

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[AI] good news for AI readers cashless food in all trains

[gopala krishna]

sir, this news taken from
railnews.in
dated 15/05/2018
you can eat cashless food in all trains accessindian readers,sir.
read below

NEW DELHI: To prevent overcharging on trains for meals, the Indian
Railway Catering and Tourism Corporation (IRCTC) on Monday advised all
the Railway zones to ensure the availability of minimum 10 PoS (Point
of Sale) machine in each Mail and Express trains under their
jurisdiction with immediate effect. The IRCTC, in their statement,
said all licensees must be immediately directed to deploy PoS machines
and added that heavy fine would be imposed on those who would
non-comply to the same.

Earlier in April, the IRCTC introduced PoS machines in three trains –
the Aravali Express, the Telangana Express and the Sealdah Ajmer
Express. A PoS machine is an electronic device used to process card
payments and prevents overcharging by vendors in trains.

Bad publicity is hitting the IRCTC and the fact is not being
appreciated by the Indian Railways authorities and remedial measures
are set to be provided to passengers to make their journey easier to
cut this down. In a bid to ensure bills for the purchase of food items
is provided to passengers on trains, Indian Railways has issued
certain must-follow instructions. Railways unit IRCTC has ordered all
its zones to ensure at least 10 point of sale (POS) machines are
deployed on each train under their jurisdiction.

IRCTC issued a letter where it said that “despite it being mandatory
for the licensee to issue bills to passengers for food items through
POS machines, the handheld electronic bill printing devices were not
deployed in trains and cases of overcharging were continuously being
received, resulting in bad publicity for the IRCTC”.

According to the letter, “the railway zones are hereby advised to
ensure the provision and operation of minimum 10 POS machine in each
mail/express trains under their jurisdiction with immediate effect.
Licensee must be immediately directed to deploy these machines in all
trains run by them.”

Inspections would be carried out in these zones to check whether the
IRCTC directions are followed and has instructed them to send the
report by June, reports PTI.

Now passengers can choose their meals from a pre-loaded menu and pay
through credit or debit cards on 25 trains, Indian Railways had said
earlier this month. This will keep ensure that the food are sold to
the passengers at an exact price.

IRCTC has also announced the launch of an e-wallet service. Passengers
can now book their tatkal tickets by the IRCTC Rail Connect app. They
can also deposit money with IRCTC in advance and use the same at the
time of booking tickets. This service will ensure that the ticket
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Re: [AI] Good news from Eyeway!

[PAULMUDDHA]

Congradulations sir!
Sir, Snehadeep trust for the disabled would be happy to be one of the
partners for yoru programme if you wish.
Please give us an opportunity.

Regards


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Of George Abraham
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:45 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: [AI] Good news from Eyeway!

We have won! Yes, Score Foundation and the Eyeway project has won the
#VodafoneMobile4good16 award at function held last night at the Hotel Taj
Palace organised by   @vodafonefoundation in partnership with the
@nasscomfoundation, @nasscom and @ndtv. It is thrilling and I would like to
thank God, our funders and all our current partners Enable-India, NAB Delhi,
Saksham Trust, Mitra Jyothi and Navchetna Institute. This year we plan to
add at least 6 more partners in different parts of India and by 2018, we
hope to be a network of 24 partners. Eyeway is a knowledge resource on
living a life with blindness. Blind people can call the Eyeway Helpdesk 1800
300 20469 from anywhere in the country Monday through Friday during working
hours and speak to our counsellors. We have counsellors at all our partners
centers and the calls are routed to the centre closest to callers. Our aim
is to provide local solutions in the language of the caller. We would like
to thank Vodafone and all our supporters to recognise our idea . We believe
that blindness is not the real problem, it is the way we think. Also, every
blind person is potentially is part of the Human Resource of the country. We
must invest in them rather than merely providing for them. Please take this
understanding on board and share it with your networks. Again, delighted to
have been considered worthy of the award.  
 
George Abraham
CEO
Score Foundation
17/107, LGF,
Vikramvihar, Lajpatnagar 4,
New Delhi 110024
Ph: 91 11 26472581,91 11 46070396
Mob: 91 9810934040
Email: geo...@eyeway.org
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Re: [AI] Good news from Eyeway!

[Misbah]

Congratulations for this great and worthy success.

On 11/19/16, Chetan Soni <chetanson...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Congratulations George sir and the entire Eyeway team for this noble task
> and this great achievement. Wish you many many success ahead.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: George Abraham
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:44 AM
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
>
> the disabled.'
> Subject: [AI] Good news from Eyeway!
>
> We have won! Yes, Score Foundation and the Eyeway project has won the
> #VodafoneMobile4good16 award at function held last night at the Hotel Taj
> Palace organised by   @vodafonefoundation in partnership with the
> @nasscomfoundation, @nasscom and @ndtv. It is thrilling and I would like to
> thank God, our funders and all our current partners Enable-India, NAB
> Delhi, Saksham Trust, Mitra Jyothi and Navchetna Institute. This year we
> plan to add at least 6 more partners in different parts of India and by
> 2018, we hope to be a network of 24 partners. Eyeway is a knowledge
> resource on living a life with blindness. Blind people can call the Eyeway
> Helpdesk 1800 300 20469 from anywhere in the country Monday through Friday
> during working hours and speak to our counsellors. We have counsellors at
> all our partners centers and the calls are routed to the centre closest to
> callers. Our aim is to provide local solutions in the language of the
> caller. We would like to thank Vodafone and all our supporters to recognise
> our idea . We believe that blindness is not the real problem, it is the way
> we think. Also, every blind person is potentially is part of the Human
> Resource of the country. We must invest in them rather than merely
> providing for them. Please take this understanding on board and share it
> with your networks. Again, delighted to have been considered worthy of the
> award.
>
> George Abraham
> CEO
> Score Foundation
> 17/107, LGF,
> Vikramvihar, Lajpatnagar 4,
> New Delhi 110024
> Ph: 91 11 26472581,91 11 46070396
> Mob: 91 9810934040
> Email: geo...@eyeway.org
> Website: www.scorefoundation.org.in/www.eyeway.org
> Skype: georgeabraham13
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Re: [AI] Good news from Eyeway!

[Chetan Soni]

Congratulations George sir and the entire Eyeway team for this noble task 
and this great achievement. Wish you many many success ahead.


-Original Message- 
From: George Abraham

Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:44 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.'

Subject: [AI] Good news from Eyeway!

We have won! Yes, Score Foundation and the Eyeway project has won the
#VodafoneMobile4good16 award at function held last night at the Hotel Taj
Palace organised by   @vodafonefoundation in partnership with the
@nasscomfoundation, @nasscom and @ndtv. It is thrilling and I would like to
thank God, our funders and all our current partners Enable-India, NAB
Delhi, Saksham Trust, Mitra Jyothi and Navchetna Institute. This year we
plan to add at least 6 more partners in different parts of India and by
2018, we hope to be a network of 24 partners. Eyeway is a knowledge
resource on living a life with blindness. Blind people can call the Eyeway
Helpdesk 1800 300 20469 from anywhere in the country Monday through Friday
during working hours and speak to our counsellors. We have counsellors at
all our partners centers and the calls are routed to the centre closest to
callers. Our aim is to provide local solutions in the language of the
caller. We would like to thank Vodafone and all our supporters to recognise
our idea . We believe that blindness is not the real problem, it is the way
we think. Also, every blind person is potentially is part of the Human
Resource of the country. We must invest in them rather than merely
providing for them. Please take this understanding on board and share it
with your networks. Again, delighted to have been considered worthy of the
award.

George Abraham
CEO
Score Foundation
17/107, LGF,
Vikramvihar, Lajpatnagar 4,
New Delhi 110024
Ph: 91 11 26472581,91 11 46070396
Mob: 91 9810934040
Email: geo...@eyeway.org
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Re: [AI] Good news from Eyeway!

[madhu.singhal59]

Congratulations

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of George Abraham
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:45 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: [AI] Good news from Eyeway!

We have won! Yes, Score Foundation and the Eyeway project has won the
#VodafoneMobile4good16 award at function held last night at the Hotel Taj
Palace organised by   @vodafonefoundation in partnership with the
@nasscomfoundation, @nasscom and @ndtv. It is thrilling and I would like to
thank God, our funders and all our current partners Enable-India, NAB
Delhi, Saksham Trust, Mitra Jyothi and Navchetna Institute. This year we
plan to add at least 6 more partners in different parts of India and by
2018, we hope to be a network of 24 partners. Eyeway is a knowledge
resource on living a life with blindness. Blind people can call the Eyeway
Helpdesk 1800 300 20469 from anywhere in the country Monday through Friday
during working hours and speak to our counsellors. We have counsellors at
all our partners centers and the calls are routed to the centre closest to
callers. Our aim is to provide local solutions in the language of the
caller. We would like to thank Vodafone and all our supporters to recognise
our idea . We believe that blindness is not the real problem, it is the way
we think. Also, every blind person is potentially is part of the Human
Resource of the country. We must invest in them rather than merely
providing for them. Please take this understanding on board and share it
with your networks. Again, delighted to have been considered worthy of the
award.  
 
George Abraham
CEO
Score Foundation
17/107, LGF,
Vikramvihar, Lajpatnagar 4,
New Delhi 110024
Ph: 91 11 26472581,91 11 46070396
Mob: 91 9810934040
Email: geo...@eyeway.org
Website: www.scorefoundation.org.in/www.eyeway.org
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Re: [AI] Good news from Eyeway!

[sushmee...@voicevision.in]

Congratulations George and the entire team. 


Best Regards,
Sushmeetha B. Bubna │ Founder Director 
 
Voice Vision
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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
George Abraham
Sent: 19 November 2016 06:45
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: [AI] Good news from Eyeway!

We have won! Yes, Score Foundation and the Eyeway project has won the
#VodafoneMobile4good16 award at function held last night at the Hotel Taj
Palace organised by   @vodafonefoundation in partnership with the
@nasscomfoundation, @nasscom and @ndtv. It is thrilling and I would like to 
thank God, our funders and all our current partners Enable-India, NAB Delhi, 
Saksham Trust, Mitra Jyothi and Navchetna Institute. This year we plan to add 
at least 6 more partners in different parts of India and by 2018, we hope to be 
a network of 24 partners. Eyeway is a knowledge resource on living a life with 
blindness. Blind people can call the Eyeway Helpdesk 1800 300 20469 from 
anywhere in the country Monday through Friday during working hours and speak to 
our counsellors. We have counsellors at all our partners centers and the calls 
are routed to the centre closest to callers. Our aim is to provide local 
solutions in the language of the caller. We would like to thank Vodafone and 
all our supporters to recognise our idea . We believe that blindness is not the 
real problem, it is the way we think. Also, every blind person is potentially 
is part of the Human Resource of the country. We must invest in them rather 
than merely providing for them. Please take this understanding on board and 
share it with your networks. Again, delighted to have been considered worthy of 
the award.  
 
George Abraham
CEO
Score Foundation
17/107, LGF,
Vikramvihar, Lajpatnagar 4,
New Delhi 110024
Ph: 91 11 26472581,91 11 46070396
Mob: 91 9810934040
Email: geo...@eyeway.org
Website: www.scorefoundation.org.in/www.eyeway.org
Skype: georgeabraham13
 

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Re: [AI] Good news from Eyeway!

[Dr. B. S. M. Kumar]

Congrats George. Great and encouraging news. Keep up the good work.
Regards,


Prof. B.S.M. Kumar, M.Sc., M.Tech., PhD.
Director (Industry and Education Relationship), Project Starfish  
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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of akshun mahajan
Sent: 19 November 2016 12:37
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Good news from Eyeway!

great news. congrats

On 11/19/16, Renuka Warriar Edakkunni <eren...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Congratulations sir for the great achievement.  I would like to know
> if we will be of some of help to you in spreading your wings to
> Kerala.
>
> Renuka E.,
> Section Officer,
> CH Muhammed Koya Library,
> University of Calicut,
> Kerala.
>
> On 11/19/16, Vamshi. G <gvamsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear George sir,
>>
>> At the outset, hearty congratulations for the award.  Coming to
>> counsellors, how do you identify and get them on board?  Is it a form
>> of  employment or volunteers?  What if someone wants to become a
>> counsellor?
>>
>>
>> On 11/19/16, rajendra dhurve <rd0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello
>>> many many   congratulations to Eyeway team for this great Victory!!
>>> Keep it up and all the best for bright future
>>> Cheers:
>>>
>>> On 11/19/16, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote:
>>>> We have won! Yes, Score Foundation and the Eyeway project has won the
>>>> #VodafoneMobile4good16 award at function held last night at the Hotel
>>>> Taj
>>>> Palace organised by   @vodafonefoundation in partnership with the
>>>> @nasscomfoundation, @nasscom and @ndtv. It is thrilling and I would
>>>> like
>>>> to
>>>> thank God, our funders and all our current partners Enable-India, NAB
>>>> Delhi, Saksham Trust, Mitra Jyothi and Navchetna Institute. This year
>>>> we
>>>> plan to add at least 6 more partners in different parts of India and by
>>>> 2018, we hope to be a network of 24 partners. Eyeway is a knowledge
>>>> resource on living a life with blindness. Blind people can call the
>>>> Eyeway
>>>> Helpdesk 1800 300 20469 from anywhere in the country Monday through
>>>> Friday
>>>> during working hours and speak to our counsellors. We have counsellors
>>>> at
>>>> all our partners centers and the calls are routed to the centre closest
>>>> to
>>>> callers. Our aim is to provide local solutions in the language of the
>>>> caller. We would like to thank Vodafone and all our supporters to
>>>> recognise
>>>> our idea . We believe that blindness is not the real problem, it is the
>>>> way
>>>> we think. Also, every blind person is potentially is part of the Human
>>>> Resource of the country. We must invest in them rather than merely
>>>> providing for them. Please take this understanding on board and share
>>>> it
>>>> with your networks. Again, delighted to have been considered worthy of
>>>> the
>>>> award.
>>>>
>>>> George Abraham
>>>> CEO
>>>> Score Foundation
>>>> 17/107, LGF,
>>>> Vikramvihar, Lajpatnagar 4,
>>>> New Delhi 110024
>>>> Ph: 91 11 26472581,91 11 46070396
>>>> Mob: 91 9810934040
>>>> Email: geo...@eyeway.org
>>>> Website: www.scorefoundation.org.in/www.eyeway.org
>>>> Skype: georgeabraham13
>>>>
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Re: [AI] Good news from Eyeway!

[akshun mahajan]

great news. congrats

On 11/19/16, Renuka Warriar Edakkunni  wrote:
> Congratulations sir for the great achievement.  I would like to know
> if we will be of some of help to you in spreading your wings to
> Kerala.
>
> Renuka E.,
> Section Officer,
> CH Muhammed Koya Library,
> University of Calicut,
> Kerala.
>
> On 11/19/16, Vamshi. G  wrote:
>> Dear George sir,
>>
>> At the outset, hearty congratulations for the award.  Coming to
>> counsellors, how do you identify and get them on board?  Is it a form
>> of  employment or volunteers?  What if someone wants to become a
>> counsellor?
>>
>>
>> On 11/19/16, rajendra dhurve  wrote:
>>> Hello
>>> many many   congratulations to Eyeway team for this great Victory!!
>>> Keep it up and all the best for bright future
>>> Cheers:
>>>
>>> On 11/19/16, George Abraham  wrote:
 We have won! Yes, Score Foundation and the Eyeway project has won the
 #VodafoneMobile4good16 award at function held last night at the Hotel
 Taj
 Palace organised by   @vodafonefoundation in partnership with the
 @nasscomfoundation, @nasscom and @ndtv. It is thrilling and I would
 like
 to
 thank God, our funders and all our current partners Enable-India, NAB
 Delhi, Saksham Trust, Mitra Jyothi and Navchetna Institute. This year
 we
 plan to add at least 6 more partners in different parts of India and by
 2018, we hope to be a network of 24 partners. Eyeway is a knowledge
 resource on living a life with blindness. Blind people can call the
 Eyeway
 Helpdesk 1800 300 20469 from anywhere in the country Monday through
 Friday
 during working hours and speak to our counsellors. We have counsellors
 at
 all our partners centers and the calls are routed to the centre closest
 to
 callers. Our aim is to provide local solutions in the language of the
 caller. We would like to thank Vodafone and all our supporters to
 recognise
 our idea . We believe that blindness is not the real problem, it is the
 way
 we think. Also, every blind person is potentially is part of the Human
 Resource of the country. We must invest in them rather than merely
 providing for them. Please take this understanding on board and share
 it
 with your networks. Again, delighted to have been considered worthy of
 the
 award.

 George Abraham
 CEO
 Score Foundation
 17/107, LGF,
 Vikramvihar, Lajpatnagar 4,
 New Delhi 110024
 Ph: 91 11 26472581,91 11 46070396
 Mob: 91 9810934040
 Email: geo...@eyeway.org
 Website: www.scorefoundation.org.in/www.eyeway.org
 Skype: georgeabraham13


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Re: [AI] Good news from Eyeway!

[Renuka Warriar Edakkunni]

Congratulations sir for the great achievement.  I would like to know
if we will be of some of help to you in spreading your wings to
Kerala.

Renuka E.,
Section Officer,
CH Muhammed Koya Library,
University of Calicut,
Kerala.

On 11/19/16, Vamshi. G  wrote:
> Dear George sir,
>
> At the outset, hearty congratulations for the award.  Coming to
> counsellors, how do you identify and get them on board?  Is it a form
> of  employment or volunteers?  What if someone wants to become a
> counsellor?
>
>
> On 11/19/16, rajendra dhurve  wrote:
>> Hello
>> many many   congratulations to Eyeway team for this great Victory!!
>> Keep it up and all the best for bright future
>> Cheers:
>>
>> On 11/19/16, George Abraham  wrote:
>>> We have won! Yes, Score Foundation and the Eyeway project has won the
>>> #VodafoneMobile4good16 award at function held last night at the Hotel
>>> Taj
>>> Palace organised by   @vodafonefoundation in partnership with the
>>> @nasscomfoundation, @nasscom and @ndtv. It is thrilling and I would like
>>> to
>>> thank God, our funders and all our current partners Enable-India, NAB
>>> Delhi, Saksham Trust, Mitra Jyothi and Navchetna Institute. This year we
>>> plan to add at least 6 more partners in different parts of India and by
>>> 2018, we hope to be a network of 24 partners. Eyeway is a knowledge
>>> resource on living a life with blindness. Blind people can call the
>>> Eyeway
>>> Helpdesk 1800 300 20469 from anywhere in the country Monday through
>>> Friday
>>> during working hours and speak to our counsellors. We have counsellors
>>> at
>>> all our partners centers and the calls are routed to the centre closest
>>> to
>>> callers. Our aim is to provide local solutions in the language of the
>>> caller. We would like to thank Vodafone and all our supporters to
>>> recognise
>>> our idea . We believe that blindness is not the real problem, it is the
>>> way
>>> we think. Also, every blind person is potentially is part of the Human
>>> Resource of the country. We must invest in them rather than merely
>>> providing for them. Please take this understanding on board and share it
>>> with your networks. Again, delighted to have been considered worthy of
>>> the
>>> award.
>>>
>>> George Abraham
>>> CEO
>>> Score Foundation
>>> 17/107, LGF,
>>> Vikramvihar, Lajpatnagar 4,
>>> New Delhi 110024
>>> Ph: 91 11 26472581,91 11 46070396
>>> Mob: 91 9810934040
>>> Email: geo...@eyeway.org
>>> Website: www.scorefoundation.org.in/www.eyeway.org
>>> Skype: georgeabraham13
>>>
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Re: [AI] Good news from Eyeway!

[Vamshi. G]

Dear George sir,

At the outset, hearty congratulations for the award.  Coming to
counsellors, how do you identify and get them on board?  Is it a form
of  employment or volunteers?  What if someone wants to become a
counsellor?


On 11/19/16, rajendra dhurve  wrote:
> Hello
> many many   congratulations to Eyeway team for this great Victory!!
> Keep it up and all the best for bright future
> Cheers:
>
> On 11/19/16, George Abraham  wrote:
>> We have won! Yes, Score Foundation and the Eyeway project has won the
>> #VodafoneMobile4good16 award at function held last night at the Hotel Taj
>> Palace organised by   @vodafonefoundation in partnership with the
>> @nasscomfoundation, @nasscom and @ndtv. It is thrilling and I would like
>> to
>> thank God, our funders and all our current partners Enable-India, NAB
>> Delhi, Saksham Trust, Mitra Jyothi and Navchetna Institute. This year we
>> plan to add at least 6 more partners in different parts of India and by
>> 2018, we hope to be a network of 24 partners. Eyeway is a knowledge
>> resource on living a life with blindness. Blind people can call the
>> Eyeway
>> Helpdesk 1800 300 20469 from anywhere in the country Monday through
>> Friday
>> during working hours and speak to our counsellors. We have counsellors at
>> all our partners centers and the calls are routed to the centre closest
>> to
>> callers. Our aim is to provide local solutions in the language of the
>> caller. We would like to thank Vodafone and all our supporters to
>> recognise
>> our idea . We believe that blindness is not the real problem, it is the
>> way
>> we think. Also, every blind person is potentially is part of the Human
>> Resource of the country. We must invest in them rather than merely
>> providing for them. Please take this understanding on board and share it
>> with your networks. Again, delighted to have been considered worthy of
>> the
>> award.
>>
>> George Abraham
>> CEO
>> Score Foundation
>> 17/107, LGF,
>> Vikramvihar, Lajpatnagar 4,
>> New Delhi 110024
>> Ph: 91 11 26472581,91 11 46070396
>> Mob: 91 9810934040
>> Email: geo...@eyeway.org
>> Website: www.scorefoundation.org.in/www.eyeway.org
>> Skype: georgeabraham13
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] Good news from Eyeway!

[rajendra dhurve]

Hello
many many   congratulations to Eyeway team for this great Victory!!
Keep it up and all the best for bright future
Cheers:

On 11/19/16, George Abraham  wrote:
> We have won! Yes, Score Foundation and the Eyeway project has won the
> #VodafoneMobile4good16 award at function held last night at the Hotel Taj
> Palace organised by   @vodafonefoundation in partnership with the
> @nasscomfoundation, @nasscom and @ndtv. It is thrilling and I would like to
> thank God, our funders and all our current partners Enable-India, NAB
> Delhi, Saksham Trust, Mitra Jyothi and Navchetna Institute. This year we
> plan to add at least 6 more partners in different parts of India and by
> 2018, we hope to be a network of 24 partners. Eyeway is a knowledge
> resource on living a life with blindness. Blind people can call the Eyeway
> Helpdesk 1800 300 20469 from anywhere in the country Monday through Friday
> during working hours and speak to our counsellors. We have counsellors at
> all our partners centers and the calls are routed to the centre closest to
> callers. Our aim is to provide local solutions in the language of the
> caller. We would like to thank Vodafone and all our supporters to recognise
> our idea . We believe that blindness is not the real problem, it is the way
> we think. Also, every blind person is potentially is part of the Human
> Resource of the country. We must invest in them rather than merely
> providing for them. Please take this understanding on board and share it
> with your networks. Again, delighted to have been considered worthy of the
> award.
>
> George Abraham
> CEO
> Score Foundation
> 17/107, LGF,
> Vikramvihar, Lajpatnagar 4,
> New Delhi 110024
> Ph: 91 11 26472581,91 11 46070396
> Mob: 91 9810934040
> Email: geo...@eyeway.org
> Website: www.scorefoundation.org.in/www.eyeway.org
> Skype: georgeabraham13
>
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[AI] Good news from Eyeway!

[George Abraham]

We have won! Yes, Score Foundation and the Eyeway project has won the
#VodafoneMobile4good16 award at function held last night at the Hotel Taj
Palace organised by   @vodafonefoundation in partnership with the
@nasscomfoundation, @nasscom and @ndtv. It is thrilling and I would like to
thank God, our funders and all our current partners Enable-India, NAB
Delhi, Saksham Trust, Mitra Jyothi and Navchetna Institute. This year we
plan to add at least 6 more partners in different parts of India and by
2018, we hope to be a network of 24 partners. Eyeway is a knowledge
resource on living a life with blindness. Blind people can call the Eyeway
Helpdesk 1800 300 20469 from anywhere in the country Monday through Friday
during working hours and speak to our counsellors. We have counsellors at
all our partners centers and the calls are routed to the centre closest to
callers. Our aim is to provide local solutions in the language of the
caller. We would like to thank Vodafone and all our supporters to recognise
our idea . We believe that blindness is not the real problem, it is the way
we think. Also, every blind person is potentially is part of the Human
Resource of the country. We must invest in them rather than merely
providing for them. Please take this understanding on board and share it
with your networks. Again, delighted to have been considered worthy of the
award.  
 
George Abraham
CEO
Score Foundation
17/107, LGF,
Vikramvihar, Lajpatnagar 4,
New Delhi 110024
Ph: 91 11 26472581,91 11 46070396
Mob: 91 9810934040
Email: geo...@eyeway.org
Website: www.scorefoundation.org.in/www.eyeway.org
Skype: georgeabraham13
 

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[AI] Good news for the Para athletes: Govt to set up 5 dedicated centres for divyang athletes

[avinash shahi]

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/Govt-to-set-up-5-dedicated-centres-for-divyang-athletes/articleshow/54872538.cms

Vadodara, Oct 15 () The central government will set up five
national-level sophisticated sports centres for differently-abled
sportspersons, with an objective of catering to their special needs
like training and diet, Union Minister Thawar Chand Gehlot announced
today.

"The government has started work on establishing five centres and land
has been acquired for three such centres. They will come up in Madhya
Bharat, Paschim Bharat, Uttar Bharat, South Bharat and East Bharat
(central, west, north, south and east India)," the Social Justice and
Empowerment Minister told reporters here.

Gehlot was in town for overseeing the arrangements for distribution of
tri-cycles, wheel chairs, hearing aids and other such implements to
more than 14,000 divyang people at a function to be held on October 22
in presence of Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

"Three out of five state-of-the-art centres will be set up in Punjab,
Madhya Pradesh and Andhra Pradesh, with an aim to provide special
training and support to sportsmen who are differently-abled.

"Setting up of two more such centres depends upon two concerned state
governments (considering availability of land). (The aim is) to cater
to the special needs of training, diet etc of differently-abled
sportsmen. We have already been provided land by governments of Madhya
Pradesh, Punjab and Andhra Pradesh," Gehlot said.

He said the facilities will be set up at Zirakpur in Punjab, Ujjain in
MP and Visakhapatnam in Andhra Pradesh.

"We want to adopt the best practices and parameters in force at
recently concluded Rio 2016 Paralympics. A detailed project report is
being prepared and we will initiate construction of buildings soon,"
the minister said.
He said as part of 'Accessible India" campaign, 50 cities (A and B)
have been shortlisted, where 100 "most important government buildings"
will be converted into fully accessible buildings in future. (MORE)
CORR NSK KIS

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Re: [AI] good news, ignou has restored the egyankosh

[gufran ahmed]

hello nirmalji at the first day of my registration, i also got teh
same message. but from the next day i was able to download 2books from
that site. one thing i have noted that the books are uploaded without
any prooff-reading. some of its chapters for e.g the 6th chapter of
ehi-05 (history) was not quite accessible. and that bok is not
available on bookshare too.

On 3/29/16, Nirmal Verma <nirmalkat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Please tell me if you were able to download from e gyankosh? I was
> unsuccessful in my effort, it asked for authorisation.
>
> Nirmal
> On Mar 29, 2016 7:18 AM, "gufran ahmed" <gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hi mohit, you can search the books if you have any idea about ignou
>> course code. but you can also find the books by searching by subject
>> like history or hindi etc. in search results you may find the books
>> followed by the course details. but if you aware of ignou courses,
>> then it will be easy for you.
>> hope this helps
>>
>> On 3/28/16, Mohit Gupta <mohitchan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > dear friends,
>> > how to download books of any course. I have registered for  E gyan
>> > kosh. but how to download any book of any subject.
>> >
>> > On 3/24/16, Nirmal Verma <nirmalkat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Hi Mohib
>> >>
>> >> currently only history materials are available.
>> >>
>> >> Nirmal
>> >>
>> >> On 24 March 2016 at 16:50, Mohib Anwar Rafay <mohibra...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hey Nirmal, is there any other way of searching IGNOU material on
>> >>> bookshare except entering subject code? I don't know the  assigned
>> >>> code, but I want to search different readings from various subjects.
>> >>>
>> >>> On 3/24/16, gufran ahmed <gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> > @shyam sir, I have history (ehi-01) modern india. and ehi 05 india
>> >>> > from mid 18 sanctuary to mid 19 sanctuary. all the books are in pdf
>> >>> > format. if you require the same, please drop a mail in my personal
>> >>> > mail id.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On 3/24/16, Nirmal Verma <nirmalkat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >> IGNOU study material in accessible format is available only with
>> >>> >> bookshare.org. search with the subject code EHI or MHI. E gyankosh
>> >>> >> materials will not be accessible.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> For membership of bookshare please call 9650211575.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> political science books will also come soon on bookshare very
>> >>> >> soon.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Nirmal Verma
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On 24 March 2016 at 12:38, Shyam M. Sayanekar
>> >>> >> <sayane...@gmail.com>
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> Hello, Do you have any material of IGNOU on history? Can you
>> >>> >>> please
>> >>> >>> share
>> >>> >>> it with me? Thanking you in anticipation, yours, Professor Shyam
>> >>> >>> M.
>> >>> >>> Sayanekar
>> >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "gufran ahmed" <
>> >>> >>> gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com>
>> >>> >>> To: "access india" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> >>> >>> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 8:10 AM
>> >>> >>> Subject: [AI] good news, ignou has restored the egyankosh
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> dear all, i am happy to inform you that the ignou has restored
>> >>> >>> its
>> >>> >>>> online repositary service egyankosh i have successfully
>> >>> >>>> downloaded
>> >>> >>>> the
>> >>> >>>> studdy material yesterday.
>> >>> >>>> the url of the egyankosh is
>> >>> >>>> www.egyankosh.ac.in
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> hapy reading.
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>&g

Re: [AI] good news, ignou has restored the egyankosh

[Nirmal Verma]

Please tell me if you were able to download from e gyankosh? I was
unsuccessful in my effort, it asked for authorisation.

Nirmal
On Mar 29, 2016 7:18 AM, "gufran ahmed" <gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> hi mohit, you can search the books if you have any idea about ignou
> course code. but you can also find the books by searching by subject
> like history or hindi etc. in search results you may find the books
> followed by the course details. but if you aware of ignou courses,
> then it will be easy for you.
> hope this helps
>
> On 3/28/16, Mohit Gupta <mohitchan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > dear friends,
> > how to download books of any course. I have registered for  E gyan
> > kosh. but how to download any book of any subject.
> >
> > On 3/24/16, Nirmal Verma <nirmalkat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi Mohib
> >>
> >> currently only history materials are available.
> >>
> >> Nirmal
> >>
> >> On 24 March 2016 at 16:50, Mohib Anwar Rafay <mohibra...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hey Nirmal, is there any other way of searching IGNOU material on
> >>> bookshare except entering subject code? I don't know the  assigned
> >>> code, but I want to search different readings from various subjects.
> >>>
> >>> On 3/24/16, gufran ahmed <gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > @shyam sir, I have history (ehi-01) modern india. and ehi 05 india
> >>> > from mid 18 sanctuary to mid 19 sanctuary. all the books are in pdf
> >>> > format. if you require the same, please drop a mail in my personal
> >>> > mail id.
> >>> >
> >>> > On 3/24/16, Nirmal Verma <nirmalkat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >> IGNOU study material in accessible format is available only with
> >>> >> bookshare.org. search with the subject code EHI or MHI. E gyankosh
> >>> >> materials will not be accessible.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> For membership of bookshare please call 9650211575.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> political science books will also come soon on bookshare very soon.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Nirmal Verma
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On 24 March 2016 at 12:38, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com>
> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>> Hello, Do you have any material of IGNOU on history? Can you please
> >>> >>> share
> >>> >>> it with me? Thanking you in anticipation, yours, Professor Shyam M.
> >>> >>> Sayanekar
> >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "gufran ahmed" <
> >>> >>> gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com>
> >>> >>> To: "access india" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> >>> >>> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 8:10 AM
> >>> >>> Subject: [AI] good news, ignou has restored the egyankosh
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> dear all, i am happy to inform you that the ignou has restored its
> >>> >>>> online repositary service egyankosh i have successfully downloaded
> >>> >>>> the
> >>> >>>> studdy material yesterday.
> >>> >>>> the url of the egyankosh is
> >>> >>>> www.egyankosh.ac.in
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> hapy reading.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
> >>> accessibility
> >>> >>>> of mobile phones / Tabs on:
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>
> >>>
> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Search for old postings at:
> >>> >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
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> &g

Re: [AI] good news, ignou has restored the egyankosh

[gufran ahmed]

hi mohit, you can search the books if you have any idea about ignou
course code. but you can also find the books by searching by subject
like history or hindi etc. in search results you may find the books
followed by the course details. but if you aware of ignou courses,
then it will be easy for you.
hope this helps

On 3/28/16, Mohit Gupta <mohitchan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> dear friends,
> how to download books of any course. I have registered for  E gyan
> kosh. but how to download any book of any subject.
>
> On 3/24/16, Nirmal Verma <nirmalkat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Mohib
>>
>> currently only history materials are available.
>>
>> Nirmal
>>
>> On 24 March 2016 at 16:50, Mohib Anwar Rafay <mohibra...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Nirmal, is there any other way of searching IGNOU material on
>>> bookshare except entering subject code? I don't know the  assigned
>>> code, but I want to search different readings from various subjects.
>>>
>>> On 3/24/16, gufran ahmed <gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > @shyam sir, I have history (ehi-01) modern india. and ehi 05 india
>>> > from mid 18 sanctuary to mid 19 sanctuary. all the books are in pdf
>>> > format. if you require the same, please drop a mail in my personal
>>> > mail id.
>>> >
>>> > On 3/24/16, Nirmal Verma <nirmalkat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> IGNOU study material in accessible format is available only with
>>> >> bookshare.org. search with the subject code EHI or MHI. E gyankosh
>>> >> materials will not be accessible.
>>> >>
>>> >> For membership of bookshare please call 9650211575.
>>> >>
>>> >> political science books will also come soon on bookshare very soon.
>>> >>
>>> >> Nirmal Verma
>>> >>
>>> >> On 24 March 2016 at 12:38, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Hello, Do you have any material of IGNOU on history? Can you please
>>> >>> share
>>> >>> it with me? Thanking you in anticipation, yours, Professor Shyam M.
>>> >>> Sayanekar
>>> >>> - Original Message - From: "gufran ahmed" <
>>> >>> gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com>
>>> >>> To: "access india" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>> >>> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 8:10 AM
>>> >>> Subject: [AI] good news, ignou has restored the egyankosh
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> dear all, i am happy to inform you that the ignou has restored its
>>> >>>> online repositary service egyankosh i have successfully downloaded
>>> >>>> the
>>> >>>> studdy material yesterday.
>>> >>>> the url of the egyankosh is
>>> >>>> www.egyankosh.ac.in
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> hapy reading.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
>>> accessibility
>>> >>>> of mobile phones / Tabs on:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
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Re: [AI] good news, ignou has restored the egyankosh

[Mohit Gupta]

dear friends,
how to download books of any course. I have registered for  E gyan
kosh. but how to download any book of any subject.

On 3/24/16, Nirmal Verma <nirmalkat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Mohib
>
> currently only history materials are available.
>
> Nirmal
>
> On 24 March 2016 at 16:50, Mohib Anwar Rafay <mohibra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey Nirmal, is there any other way of searching IGNOU material on
>> bookshare except entering subject code? I don't know the  assigned
>> code, but I want to search different readings from various subjects.
>>
>> On 3/24/16, gufran ahmed <gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > @shyam sir, I have history (ehi-01) modern india. and ehi 05 india
>> > from mid 18 sanctuary to mid 19 sanctuary. all the books are in pdf
>> > format. if you require the same, please drop a mail in my personal
>> > mail id.
>> >
>> > On 3/24/16, Nirmal Verma <nirmalkat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> IGNOU study material in accessible format is available only with
>> >> bookshare.org. search with the subject code EHI or MHI. E gyankosh
>> >> materials will not be accessible.
>> >>
>> >> For membership of bookshare please call 9650211575.
>> >>
>> >> political science books will also come soon on bookshare very soon.
>> >>
>> >> Nirmal Verma
>> >>
>> >> On 24 March 2016 at 12:38, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hello, Do you have any material of IGNOU on history? Can you please
>> >>> share
>> >>> it with me? Thanking you in anticipation, yours, Professor Shyam M.
>> >>> Sayanekar
>> >>> - Original Message - From: "gufran ahmed" <
>> >>> gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com>
>> >>> To: "access india" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> >>> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 8:10 AM
>> >>> Subject: [AI] good news, ignou has restored the egyankosh
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> dear all, i am happy to inform you that the ignou has restored its
>> >>>> online repositary service egyankosh i have successfully downloaded
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> studdy material yesterday.
>> >>>> the url of the egyankosh is
>> >>>> www.egyankosh.ac.in
>> >>>>
>> >>>> hapy reading.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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>> accessibility
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Re: [AI] good news, ignou has restored the egyankosh

[Nirmal Verma]

Hi Mohib

currently only history materials are available.

Nirmal

On 24 March 2016 at 16:50, Mohib Anwar Rafay <mohibra...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Nirmal, is there any other way of searching IGNOU material on
> bookshare except entering subject code? I don't know the  assigned
> code, but I want to search different readings from various subjects.
>
> On 3/24/16, gufran ahmed <gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > @shyam sir, I have history (ehi-01) modern india. and ehi 05 india
> > from mid 18 sanctuary to mid 19 sanctuary. all the books are in pdf
> > format. if you require the same, please drop a mail in my personal
> > mail id.
> >
> > On 3/24/16, Nirmal Verma <nirmalkat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> IGNOU study material in accessible format is available only with
> >> bookshare.org. search with the subject code EHI or MHI. E gyankosh
> >> materials will not be accessible.
> >>
> >> For membership of bookshare please call 9650211575.
> >>
> >> political science books will also come soon on bookshare very soon.
> >>
> >> Nirmal Verma
> >>
> >> On 24 March 2016 at 12:38, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello, Do you have any material of IGNOU on history? Can you please
> >>> share
> >>> it with me? Thanking you in anticipation, yours, Professor Shyam M.
> >>> Sayanekar
> >>> - Original Message - From: "gufran ahmed" <
> >>> gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com>
> >>> To: "access india" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 8:10 AM
> >>> Subject: [AI] good news, ignou has restored the egyankosh
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> dear all, i am happy to inform you that the ignou has restored its
> >>>> online repositary service egyankosh i have successfully downloaded the
> >>>> studdy material yesterday.
> >>>> the url of the egyankosh is
> >>>> www.egyankosh.ac.in
> >>>>
> >>>> hapy reading.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
> accessibility
> >>>> of mobile phones / Tabs on:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in
> >>>>
> >>>>
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Re: [AI] good news, ignou has restored the egyankosh

[Mohib Anwar Rafay]

Hey Nirmal, is there any other way of searching IGNOU material on
bookshare except entering subject code? I don't know the  assigned
code, but I want to search different readings from various subjects.

On 3/24/16, gufran ahmed <gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> @shyam sir, I have history (ehi-01) modern india. and ehi 05 india
> from mid 18 sanctuary to mid 19 sanctuary. all the books are in pdf
> format. if you require the same, please drop a mail in my personal
> mail id.
>
> On 3/24/16, Nirmal Verma <nirmalkat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> IGNOU study material in accessible format is available only with
>> bookshare.org. search with the subject code EHI or MHI. E gyankosh
>> materials will not be accessible.
>>
>> For membership of bookshare please call 9650211575.
>>
>> political science books will also come soon on bookshare very soon.
>>
>> Nirmal Verma
>>
>> On 24 March 2016 at 12:38, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, Do you have any material of IGNOU on history? Can you please
>>> share
>>> it with me? Thanking you in anticipation, yours, Professor Shyam M.
>>> Sayanekar
>>> - Original Message - From: "gufran ahmed" <
>>> gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com>
>>> To: "access india" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 8:10 AM
>>> Subject: [AI] good news, ignou has restored the egyankosh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> dear all, i am happy to inform you that the ignou has restored its
>>>> online repositary service egyankosh i have successfully downloaded the
>>>> studdy material yesterday.
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>>>>
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Re: [AI] good news, ignou has restored the egyankosh

[gufran ahmed]

@shyam sir, I have history (ehi-01) modern india. and ehi 05 india
from mid 18 sanctuary to mid 19 sanctuary. all the books are in pdf
format. if you require the same, please drop a mail in my personal
mail id.

On 3/24/16, Nirmal Verma <nirmalkat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> IGNOU study material in accessible format is available only with
> bookshare.org. search with the subject code EHI or MHI. E gyankosh
> materials will not be accessible.
>
> For membership of bookshare please call 9650211575.
>
> political science books will also come soon on bookshare very soon.
>
> Nirmal Verma
>
> On 24 March 2016 at 12:38, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello, Do you have any material of IGNOU on history? Can you please share
>> it with me? Thanking you in anticipation, yours, Professor Shyam M.
>> Sayanekar
>> - Original Message - From: "gufran ahmed" <
>> gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com>
>> To: "access india" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 8:10 AM
>> Subject: [AI] good news, ignou has restored the egyankosh
>>
>>
>>
>> dear all, i am happy to inform you that the ignou has restored its
>>> online repositary service egyankosh i have successfully downloaded the
>>> studdy material yesterday.
>>> the url of the egyankosh is
>>> www.egyankosh.ac.in
>>>
>>> hapy reading.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AI] good news, ignou has restored the egyankosh

[Nirmal Verma]

IGNOU study material in accessible format is available only with
bookshare.org. search with the subject code EHI or MHI. E gyankosh
materials will not be accessible.

For membership of bookshare please call 9650211575.

political science books will also come soon on bookshare very soon.

Nirmal Verma

On 24 March 2016 at 12:38, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello, Do you have any material of IGNOU on history? Can you please share
> it with me? Thanking you in anticipation, yours, Professor Shyam M.
> Sayanekar
> - Original Message - From: "gufran ahmed" <
> gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com>
> To: "access india" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 8:10 AM
> Subject: [AI] good news, ignou has restored the egyankosh
>
>
>
> dear all, i am happy to inform you that the ignou has restored its
>> online repositary service egyankosh i have successfully downloaded the
>> studdy material yesterday.
>> the url of the egyankosh is
>> www.egyankosh.ac.in
>>
>> hapy reading.
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Re: [AI] good news, ignou has restored the egyankosh

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Hello, Do you have any material of IGNOU on history? Can you please share it 
with me? Thanking you in anticipation, yours, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
- Original Message - 
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To: "access india" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 8:10 AM
Subject: [AI] good news, ignou has restored the egyankosh



dear all, i am happy to inform you that the ignou has restored its
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the url of the egyankosh is
www.egyankosh.ac.in

hapy reading.


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[AI] good news, ignou has restored the egyankosh

[gufran ahmed]

dear all, i am happy to inform you that the ignou has restored its
online repositary service egyankosh i have successfully downloaded the
studdy material yesterday.
the url of the egyankosh is
www.egyankosh.ac.in

hapy reading.


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[AI] Good news for BEST users in Mumbai

[NAFISA BUHARIWALA]

MUMBAI: BEST has introduced on a trial basis a device which helps
visually challenged persons board buses.

The device helps users to identify the route number of buses at a bus
stop and locate bus door, thereby enabling unsupervised boarding.

Sources told TOI that trials were conducted for more than two months.
During the first phase of trials, units were fixed in 16 buses on
routes 121 and 134, which led to over 100 boardings by visually
impaired persons. The second phase saw the units in 24 buses operating
from Backbay depot. The unsupervised boardings were successful,
establishing the utility of the device in real settings, the sources
said.

The cost of the handheld device has not yet been determined. The pilot
trials were largely funded by the Department of Science and Technology
under their TIDE (Technology Interventions for the Disabled and
Elderly) scheme. The next step will be to scale up the trials,
officials said.

M Balakrishnan, from ASSISTECH, IIT Delhi, said, Nearly 350
unsupervised boardings over two months have given us immense
confidence as well as feedback to take the project forward.

BEST general manager Jagdish Patil said the transport undertaking was
committed to provide safe and comfortable travel to all commuters. It
is a unique device that facilitates boarding of public buses by
visually impaired persons, he said.
Nafisa Buhariwalla



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[AI] good news for maharashtra blind students

[Kriti Banga]

dear friends,

this is just an announcement, so i don't have any idea if this initiative
will be taken or not. if taken, then it will be great...

plan to reduce 52 special days in school: Tawde - the times of india


Mumbai: The state will reduce the number of special day celebrations in
schools to ensure maximum days for academics. It also plans to create a
pool of writers for blind students appearing for board exams.
Speaking at a principals' day celebration in Worli, school education
minister Vinod Tawde said celebrations lined up for 52 days of an academic
year make students lose out on studies. The state plans to reduce the
number of days and streamline them so that teachers and students will get
maximum time for academics, said Tawde.
Principals have welcomed the decision. At least half of these days can be
done away with so that students get more time for academics, said Prashant
Redij, principal, Hilda Castelino High School, Kandivli. Tawde said the
state also plans to provide a pool of writers for blind students appearing
for HSC and SSC. We are considering relaxing this rule and finding a
minimum of 1,500 honest people who can write the paper according to the
student. The pool will be created by the state board.
The state is also in talks with National Association for Blind to provide
the curriculum material in Braille for students.

thanks and regards,

kriti banga.


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[AI] good news for english learner

[raju ravat]

Do you struggle to consistently practice English?
Do you feel your English would improve if you could just find a way to
practice English every day?
The Hindi-english times  group  will help you create the good habit of
using English on a daily basis.
join  on today my new google group.
 send mail on:
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why learning English is so important?
 Here are ten good reasons to study English.
 list of 10 items
1. English is the most commonly spoken language in the world. One out
of five people can speak or at least understand English!

2. English is the language of science, of aviation, computers,
diplomacy, and tourism. Knowing English increases your chances of
getting a good job in
a multinational company within your home country or of finding work abroad.

3. English is the official language of 53 countries. That is a lot of
people to meet and speak to.

4. English is spoken as a first language by around 400 million people
around the world.

5. English is the language of the media industry. If you speak
English, you won’t need to rely on translations and subtitles anymore
to enjoy your favourite
books, songs, films and TV shows.

6. English is also the language of the Internet. Many websites are
written in English – you will be able to understand them and to take
part in forums
and discussions.

7. English is based on a simple alphabet and it is fairly quick and
easy to learn compared to other languages.

8. English is not only useful — it gives you a lot of satisfaction.
Making progress feels great. You will enjoy learning English, if you
remember that
every hour you spend gets you closer to perfection.

9. Since English is spoken in so many different countries there are
thousands of schools around the world that offer programmes in
English. If you speak
English, there’re lots of opportunities for you to find an appropriate
school and course to suit your academic needs.

10. Because it’s fun! By learning English, you will also learn about
other cultures. Few experiences will make you grow as a person more
than learning
the values, habits and way of life in a culture that is different from yours.
i request to all english learner, teacher and my  english  lover
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[AI] good news for english learner

[raju ravat]

Do you struggle to consistently practice English?
Do you feel your English would improve if you could just find a way to
practice English every day?
The Hindi-english time group  will help you create the good habit of
using English on a daily basis.
join  on today my new google group.
 send mail on:  hindi-englishtime+subscr...@googlegroups.com
why learning English is so important?
 Here are ten good reasons to study English.
 list of 10 items
1. English is the most commonly spoken language in the world. One out
of five people can speak or at least understand English!

2. English is the language of science, of aviation, computers,
diplomacy, and tourism. Knowing English increases your chances of
getting a good job in
a multinational company within your home country or of finding work abroad.

3. English is the official language of 53 countries. That is a lot of
people to meet and speak to.

4. English is spoken as a first language by around 400 million people
around the world.

5. English is the language of the media industry. If you speak
English, you won’t need to rely on translations and subtitles anymore
to enjoy your favourite
books, songs, films and TV shows.

6. English is also the language of the Internet. Many websites are
written in English – you will be able to understand them and to take
part in forums
and discussions.

7. English is based on a simple alphabet and it is fairly quick and
easy to learn compared to other languages.

8. English is not only useful — it gives you a lot of satisfaction.
Making progress feels great. You will enjoy learning English, if you
remember that
every hour you spend gets you closer to perfection.

9. Since English is spoken in so many different countries there are
thousands of schools around the world that offer programmes in
English. If you speak
English, there’re lots of opportunities for you to find an appropriate
school and course to suit your academic needs.

10. Because it’s fun! By learning English, you will also learn about
other cultures. Few experiences will make you grow as a person more
than learning
the values, habits and way of life in a culture that is different from yours.
i request to all english learner, teacher and my  english  lover
friends  please give sport my new group.



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[AI] Good news. 3% quota must for disabled people in all govt jobs including IAS: Supreme Court.

[Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi]

Good news. 3% quota must for disabled people in all govt jobs
including IAS: Supreme Court.
http://m.timesofindia.com/india/3-quota-must-for-disabled-people-in-all-govt-jobs-including-IAS-Supreme-Court/articleshow/42366036.cms
siddalingeshwar Ingalagi. State karnataka. Mail ID
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[AI] Good news! For visually challenged visitors, ASI makes monuments Braille-friendly

[avinash shahi]

http://indianexpress.com/article/cities/delhi/for-visually-challenged-visitors-asi-makes-monuments-braille-friendly/99/
Summary
Ten monuments, including Red Fort, Humayun's Tomb  Qutub Minar, get
such signboards.

In an effort to disseminate information to visually-impaired visitors,
the Archaeological Survey of India (ASI) has put up signs in Braille,
explaining the cultural and historical significance of the structures
at the most-visited monuments in Delhi.

The move came after officials at the Delhi circle of ASI realised the
need to reach out to people with disabilities and decided to put these
signboards up.

The project was the brainchild of Superintendent Archaeologist
(Delhi) Vasant Kumar. He suggested that blind people visit Delhi's
monuments frequently, but have to rely on either people with sight to
read out the information boards to them or hire tour guides, who often
give them wrong information. So, it was decided that in addition to
Hindi and English, we should have signboards in Braille language too.
We got in touch with blind schools in the city and translated the text
into Braille with their help. Now, visually-challenged visitors can
read the history of our heritage structures on the newly-installed
signboards, a senior ASI official said.


to help us personalise your reading experience.Kumar was unavailable
for comment.

To begin with, the ASI has put up the Braille signposts only at the 10
ticketed monuments, including the three World Heritage Sites - Red
Fort, Humayun's Tomb and Qutub Minar - that are also among the most
frequented places in the city, both by domestic as well as foreigner
tourists. The other monuments to get the signs are Jantar Mantar, Old
Fort, Safdarjung Tomb, Tughlaqabad Fort, Kotla Feroze Shah, Sultan
Ghari's tomb and Rahim Khan-e-Khana tomb.

The feedback ASI has got from the visitors ever since the Braille
signs were put up two months ago has reportedly been very positive and
encouraging. The organisation is now planning to implement it in other
structures too.

People are happy; earlier, they could visit the monuments but not see
anything. This move not only provides them information but also gives
them a greater sense of involvement. We will now gradually extend
these information boards to all monuments that witness a high
footfall, the official added.

Lauding the effort, INTACH Delhi convenor AGK Menon said the move is a
great effort and was legally required. As per the Disability Act,
every public place needs to made accessible for people with special
needs. For example, the herbal garden in Rashtrapati Bhavan is one
place that has signs in Braille for a long time. So, this is a good
idea. We should increase it to more and more public places, he said.

National Blind Youth Association (NBYA) general secretary Shobhit
Yadav said the ASI's move will go miles in helping blind children
and adults trying to understand the city's history and culture.

Special schools sometimes take their blind students out for
educational excursions but not as much as normal schools, where
children with eyesight study. This is mainly because the children have
to rely on others for information. The information boards in Braille
will be an important step towards their understanding and reading of
national history, Yadav explained.

Sound shows and historical documentaries, he suggested, could also
prove extremely helpful for blind students and need to be conducted
more often at these heritage sites. That way, they can at least
listen to the historical facts being laid out.


-- 
Avinash Shahi
M.Phil Research Scholar
Centre for The Study of Law and Governance
Jawaharlal Nehru University
New Delhi India



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Re: [AI] Good news! For visually challenged visitors, ASI makes monuments Braille-friendly

[akshun mahajan]

great news and great efforts of archeologist department of india.

On 5/13/14, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://indianexpress.com/article/cities/delhi/for-visually-challenged-visitors-asi-makes-monuments-braille-friendly/99/
 Summary
 Ten monuments, including Red Fort, Humayun's Tomb  Qutub Minar, get
 such signboards.

 In an effort to disseminate information to visually-impaired visitors,
 the Archaeological Survey of India (ASI) has put up signs in Braille,
 explaining the cultural and historical significance of the structures
 at the most-visited monuments in Delhi.

 The move came after officials at the Delhi circle of ASI realised the
 need to reach out to people with disabilities and decided to put these
 signboards up.

 The project was the brainchild of Superintendent Archaeologist
 (Delhi) Vasant Kumar. He suggested that blind people visit Delhi's
 monuments frequently, but have to rely on either people with sight to
 read out the information boards to them or hire tour guides, who often
 give them wrong information. So, it was decided that in addition to
 Hindi and English, we should have signboards in Braille language too.
 We got in touch with blind schools in the city and translated the text
 into Braille with their help. Now, visually-challenged visitors can
 read the history of our heritage structures on the newly-installed
 signboards, a senior ASI official said.


 to help us personalise your reading experience.Kumar was unavailable
 for comment.

 To begin with, the ASI has put up the Braille signposts only at the 10
 ticketed monuments, including the three World Heritage Sites - Red
 Fort, Humayun's Tomb and Qutub Minar - that are also among the most
 frequented places in the city, both by domestic as well as foreigner
 tourists. The other monuments to get the signs are Jantar Mantar, Old
 Fort, Safdarjung Tomb, Tughlaqabad Fort, Kotla Feroze Shah, Sultan
 Ghari's tomb and Rahim Khan-e-Khana tomb.

 The feedback ASI has got from the visitors ever since the Braille
 signs were put up two months ago has reportedly been very positive and
 encouraging. The organisation is now planning to implement it in other
 structures too.

 People are happy; earlier, they could visit the monuments but not see
 anything. This move not only provides them information but also gives
 them a greater sense of involvement. We will now gradually extend
 these information boards to all monuments that witness a high
 footfall, the official added.

 Lauding the effort, INTACH Delhi convenor AGK Menon said the move is a
 great effort and was legally required. As per the Disability Act,
 every public place needs to made accessible for people with special
 needs. For example, the herbal garden in Rashtrapati Bhavan is one
 place that has signs in Braille for a long time. So, this is a good
 idea. We should increase it to more and more public places, he said.

 National Blind Youth Association (NBYA) general secretary Shobhit
 Yadav said the ASI's move will go miles in helping blind children
 and adults trying to understand the city's history and culture.

 Special schools sometimes take their blind students out for
 educational excursions but not as much as normal schools, where
 children with eyesight study. This is mainly because the children have
 to rely on others for information. The information boards in Braille
 will be an important step towards their understanding and reading of
 national history, Yadav explained.

 Sound shows and historical documentaries, he suggested, could also
 prove extremely helpful for blind students and need to be conducted
 more often at these heritage sites. That way, they can at least
 listen to the historical facts being laid out.


 --
 Avinash Shahi
 M.Phil Research Scholar
 Centre for The Study of Law and Governance
 Jawaharlal Nehru University
 New Delhi India



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[AI] good news

[Sandeep Singh]

Dear friends,
I have good news for the list. Our list friend Swati Saxena is 
joining EXL Services NOIDA tomorrow as HR manager. She recently 
completed her MBA from Tata Institute of Social Sciences Mumbai. You 
can write to her personal Id:

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[AI] Good news from facebook team to, screen reader users!

[Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi]

Hi all! Good news, now screen reader users also cann submit your
feedback to fb team, using this link. Specially Jaws NVDA and other
screen reader users. Just submit your suggestions to imprew the
facebook. Accessibility for People with Disabilities. Click,
https://www.facebook.com/help/contact/169372943117927?ref=stream or,
click, https://m.facebook.com/help/contact/169372943117927?ref=stream
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Country: India. My contact info: mail ID: ingalagisi...@gmail.com
facebook: http://m.facebook.com/siddalingeshwar.ingalagi/ join my own
group on facebook: ShareEverything!
http://m.facebook.com/groups/201402363354521?refid=27/ to upload,
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Re: [AI] Good News

[ishita kapoor]

Why should we congratulate them?
What they have done for VI community of Gujarat?
They are silent on basic issues like employment.
In Gujarat they only give and receive awards.
I am telling this with pain that no ngo or no person from any ngo is
fighting for basic rights of visually impaired.
In Gujarat government there is no vacancy for visually impaired.
Still they are happily accepting awards.
I am not against Mr. Vyas or anybody, but they shouldn't look only
small awards and recognition for government which is deft at least in
our case.
They should learn from mr. rumta, manocha Abraham etc
Who are selflessly serving our community.
Sorry if I have hurt anyone.


On 2/8/14, surendra salgaonkar surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Congratulatory mails on his personal MailID please!


 On 2/7/14, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Ketan,

 Can you please mention the achievements of our fellow member Praful
 Vyas for which he is going to be felicitated? Its always good to know
 the contributions of the member which will inspire others to follow
 the path laid by him.  So, please share.

 On 2/7/14, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 In this gloom and doom I have some good news to share:  our friend Mr.
 Praful Vyas from Dhoraji in Gujarat is being felicitated by government
 of
 Gujarat tomorrow.  He will be awarded the Dhartiratna award--a
 prestigious
 award tomorrow.

 THis is a great development indeed.

 With best wishes,

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[AI] Good News

[Ketan Kothari]

Dear Friends,

In this gloom and doom I have some good news to share:  our friend Mr. Praful 
Vyas from Dhoraji in Gujarat is being felicitated by government of Gujarat 
tomorrow.  He will be awarded the Dhartiratna award—a prestigious award 
tomorrow.  

THis is a great development indeed.

With best wishes,

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Re: [AI] Good News

[Vamshi. G]

Hi Ketan,

Can you please mention the achievements of our fellow member Praful
Vyas for which he is going to be felicitated? Its always good to know
the contributions of the member which will inspire others to follow
the path laid by him.  So, please share.

On 2/7/14, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 In this gloom and doom I have some good news to share:  our friend Mr.
 Praful Vyas from Dhoraji in Gujarat is being felicitated by government of
 Gujarat tomorrow.  He will be awarded the Dhartiratna award--a prestigious
 award tomorrow.

 THis is a great development indeed.

 With best wishes,

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Re: [AI] Good News

[surendra salgaonkar]

Congratulatory mails on his personal MailID please!


On 2/7/14, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Ketan,

 Can you please mention the achievements of our fellow member Praful
 Vyas for which he is going to be felicitated? Its always good to know
 the contributions of the member which will inspire others to follow
 the path laid by him.  So, please share.

 On 2/7/14, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 In this gloom and doom I have some good news to share:  our friend Mr.
 Praful Vyas from Dhoraji in Gujarat is being felicitated by government of
 Gujarat tomorrow.  He will be awarded the Dhartiratna award--a
 prestigious
 award tomorrow.

 THis is a great development indeed.

 With best wishes,

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Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEEMain guidelines

[Vamshi. G]

Srikanth and Kartik,

I second Srinivasu's second mail that you are certainly not wasting
any time.  In fact, this is one of the most fruitful discussions on
the list.

I'm somewhat busy with personal assignments, hence will write briefly.
 No conclusions, only analysis.

1.  Writing exam on the computer

Very few visually challenged people have access to the computer with
screen reader in India.  So, can't expect every one to do it.

2.  Own scribe

Very helpful for genuine candidates.  At the same time, very easy to
cheat the examination body if candidate is not genuine, especially
with the present guidelines.

3. Scribe provided by examination body

Okay if scribe is good.  Hell if otherwise.  Spelling every word to
the scribe is impossible.  As far as selective words are concerned,
you won't know which words are misspelt by the scribe.

4.  Strengthening invigilation

 Ideal solution.  But invigilators are also human.  Blind people will
easily  make them sympathise with them.  This may hurt some.   But can
not rule out the reality.

What is the solution?





On 11/19/13, raaju bidh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Some how I also agree with bala sir, doing exam on the computer give any vi
 students independent.
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Srikanth Bolla
 Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 12:32 PM
 To: 'Asudani, Rajesh'; 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility
 andissues concerning the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in
 JEEMain guidelines

 HI,
We did not mean   we need own scribe for science subjects. I made a
 comparison saying that for non-science subjects, there is no need for own
 scribe.  Of course, you may request scribe from the center with same
 background but even that same background is not needed to write eats or any
 other words. If you think the scribe is making mistake, you are supposed to
 spell the words. In fact, it's not scribes duty to write correct spellings.
 Scribe has all rights to ask you to spell anything that is not clear. So
 this is why, we should all promote the use of computers to take exams. Or
 we
 can use recorders to record answers. I hope this will help you understand.
 But I am again reiterating that requesting own scribe in many case is just
 to escape and pass out. Regards, -Original Message-
 From: Asudani, Rajesh [mailto:rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in] Sent: Tuesday,
 November 19, 2013 1:37 AM
 To: presidentsrika...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing
 accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.
 Subject: RE: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE
 Main guidelines

 Well, not writing a detailed reply but why do you need own scribe if the
 exam is non-scince subjects, literature based?
 Please think twice.
 A scribe always wrote Yeast, when I said, Yeats
 I think this suffices to explain my point.
 So, science is not the only subject requiring your own scribe.
 Wavelength matters and no authority can impose scribe on us, more often
 than
 not, they impose utterly inefficient scribes.


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Srikanth Bolla
 Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:53 AM
 To: 'Kartik Sawhney'
 Cc: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE
 Main guidelines

 Dear Karthik,
I am thrilled to get your detailed perspective on this problem.  I hope
 we both are not the only once writing back and forth and maybe wasting time
 on this subject. Nice to know that CBSC gave their own computer and
 invigilation.  Sorry they did over in your case. Maybe this might be the
 first time so it's just due to lack of awareness. Let me point out your
 concern that no talented student should miss out the opportunity due to
 lack of accommodations
 I am also 100% with you on this. Personally, I lost so much due to lack of
 proper accommodations in science subjects. Even I don't want any talented
 student to  get hindered by the  discriminatory  procedures, however, I
 strictly don't want any  unqualified student to pass out the exams with the
 help from scribes.  Talented students struggling are rare but unqualified
 and unskilled people getting 100's are seen   in high percentage. Of course
 people on this list might debate on this point but once own consciousness
 will tell the truth. Personally, I know unqualified people passing out with
 more than 80%. Don't you think this is bad? I 100% agree with your point of
 recording the entire session and allow own scribe.  Then since there will
 be
 video and audio, student and the scribe will have very less chance to
 cheat.
 Recording the session also can bring out valid questions or concerns from
 both parties. Then concern authorities can review and make

Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEEMain guidelines

[Uma Vr]

Hi all,

I agree with the views of Mr. Srikanth. Many VI students are taking
advantage of their disability, by asking the scribe to prepare for
their exams.
But, there is one more point here. I am doing my LLM right now. Next
year I am planning to appear for NET. If the concerned centre
authorities provide me a scribe who is from science background, he/she
cannot pronounce many of the legal maxims properly. Then, what would
be my position?
I am not talking without evidence. I already had a bitter experience
in it. Last year, I appeared for AP PG Law CET 2012, for which the
scribe was provided by the University in which I wrote my exam. Do you
know what was the result of it?
The scribe was a clerk in some department in the University who was
aged more than 55 years, who did not know English, read me the
question paper in such a manner that I am not able to understand even
the basic questions properly because he told me openly when I asked
him to repeat the questions once more, you are irritating me.
At last, I scored only 86 for 120 marks, though I know 110 answers
perfectly(when my father read the questions at home, I am able to
answer).
So, bringing our own scribe is nothing wrong in my opinion. But, VI
candidates should not misuse the privileges given to them by the
Government.
one more point here is,
not only for science students, but also for literature, law etc, there
is a need for them to get a scribe from their own background.
Sorry if it hurts anyone, its my personal opinion.
On 11/19/13, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Srikanth and Kartik,

 I second Srinivasu's second mail that you are certainly not wasting
 any time.  In fact, this is one of the most fruitful discussions on
 the list.

 I'm somewhat busy with personal assignments, hence will write briefly.
  No conclusions, only analysis.

 1.  Writing exam on the computer

 Very few visually challenged people have access to the computer with
 screen reader in India.  So, can't expect every one to do it.

 2.  Own scribe

 Very helpful for genuine candidates.  At the same time, very easy to
 cheat the examination body if candidate is not genuine, especially
 with the present guidelines.

 3. Scribe provided by examination body

 Okay if scribe is good.  Hell if otherwise.  Spelling every word to
 the scribe is impossible.  As far as selective words are concerned,
 you won't know which words are misspelt by the scribe.

 4.  Strengthening invigilation

  Ideal solution.  But invigilators are also human.  Blind people will
 easily  make them sympathise with them.  This may hurt some.   But can
 not rule out the reality.

 What is the solution?





 On 11/19/13, raaju bidh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Some how I also agree with bala sir, doing exam on the computer give any
 vi
 students independent.
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Srikanth Bolla
 Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 12:32 PM
 To: 'Asudani, Rajesh'; 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility
 andissues concerning the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in
 JEEMain guidelines

 HI,
We did not mean   we need own scribe for science subjects. I made a
 comparison saying that for non-science subjects, there is no need for own
 scribe.  Of course, you may request scribe from the center with same
 background but even that same background is not needed to write eats or
 any
 other words. If you think the scribe is making mistake, you are supposed
 to
 spell the words. In fact, it's not scribes duty to write correct
 spellings.
 Scribe has all rights to ask you to spell anything that is not clear. So
 this is why, we should all promote the use of computers to take exams. Or
 we
 can use recorders to record answers. I hope this will help you
 understand.
 But I am again reiterating that requesting own scribe in many case is
 just
 to escape and pass out. Regards, -Original Message-
 From: Asudani, Rajesh [mailto:rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in   ] Sent: Tuesday,
 November 19, 2013 1:37 AM
 To: presidentsrika...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing
 accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.
 Subject: RE: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in
 JEE
 Main guidelines

 Well, not writing a detailed reply but why do you need own scribe if the
 exam is non-scince subjects, literature based?
 Please think twice.
 A scribe always wrote Yeast, when I said, Yeats
 I think this suffices to explain my point.
 So, science is not the only subject requiring your own scribe.
 Wavelength matters and no authority can impose scribe on us, more often
 than
 not, they impose utterly inefficient scribes.


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Srikanth Bolla
 Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:53 AM
 To: 'Kartik Sawhney'
 Cc: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing

Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEEMain guidelines

[Srikanth Bolla]

Hello,
   I completely understand your perspective but I disagree with you.  If
blind people have capacity to cheat like sited, its fine and let them cheat
at their own ethics and values. But scribe is a legal support that
government gives. So let's not use scribe to cheat. Of course, if people
have   intellectual technology or some source like the micro zerox to cheat,
then people can use them and law will do its own duty to catch them.
Regards,

-Original Message-
From: Pinkesh Tailor [mailto:pinkesh.tai...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 11:14 PM
To: presidentsrika...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing
accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in
JEEMain guidelines

Hello,
Indeed a healthy debate. But it is a matter of ethics and value whether
sighted or blind. Even sighted people if dishonest can copy and pass any
kind of exam. Blind people are also human. Unfortunately we don't wish to
come out of our blindness and become a human first who has their own
strengths and weeknesses whether sighted or blind.

On 11/20/13, Srikanth Bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Umaji,
   Yes you are right you  may have scribe from the same background but 
 the scribe should be assigned by the examination center. I am fine 
 even if we are given own scribes but there should be very strict 
 invigilation. For example, they have to video tape the entire exam as I
said in my  previous
 email.   Another thing is that the seating of the scribe and student
should
 clearly visible and may not facilitate any random interaction. My 
 concern here is not to oppose own scribe idea but I don't really want 
 any unqualified student to pass out.  These unqualified students are 
 spoiling the entire blind community name. Regards,

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
 Behalf of Uma V
 Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 12:34 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
 concerning the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in 
 JEEMain guidelines

 Hi all,

 I agree with the views of Mr. Srikanth. Many VI students are taking 
 advantage of their disability, by asking the scribe to prepare for 
 their exams.
 But, there is one more point here. I am doing my LLM right now. Next 
 year I am planning to appear for NET. If the concerned centre 
 authorities provide me a scribe who is from science background, he/she 
 cannot pronounce many of the legal maxims properly. Then, what would be my
position?
 I am not talking without evidence. I already had a bitter experience in
it.
 Last year, I appeared for AP PG Law CET 2012, for which the scribe was 
 provided by the University in which I wrote my exam. Do you know what 
 was the result of it?
 The scribe was a clerk in some department in the University who was 
 aged more than 55 years, who did not know English, read me the 
 question paper in such a manner that I am not able to understand even 
 the basic questions properly because he told me openly when I asked 
 him to repeat the questions once more, you are irritating me.
 At last, I scored only 86 for 120 marks, though I know 110 answers 
 perfectly(when my father read the questions at home, I am able to answer).
 So, bringing our own scribe is nothing wrong in my opinion. But, VI 
 candidates should not misuse the privileges given to them by the 
 Government.
 one more point here is,
 not only for science students, but also for literature, law etc, there 
 is a need for them to get a scribe from their own background.
 Sorry if it hurts anyone, its my personal opinion.
 On 11/19/13, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Srikanth and Kartik,

 I second Srinivasu's second mail that you are certainly not wasting 
 any time.  In fact, this is one of the most fruitful discussions on 
 the list.

 I'm somewhat busy with personal assignments, hence will write briefly.
  No conclusions, only analysis.

 1.  Writing exam on the computer

 Very few visually challenged people have access to the computer with 
 screen reader in India.  So, can't expect every one to do it.

 2.  Own scribe

 Very helpful for genuine candidates.  At the same time, very easy to 
 cheat the examination body if candidate is not genuine, especially 
 with the present guidelines.

 3. Scribe provided by examination body

 Okay if scribe is good.  Hell if otherwise.  Spelling every word to 
 the scribe is impossible.  As far as selective words are concerned, 
 you won't know which words are misspelt by the scribe.

 4.  Strengthening invigilation

  Ideal solution.  But invigilators are also human.  Blind people will
 easily  make them sympathise with them.  This may hurt some.   But can
 not rule out the reality.

 What is the solution?





 On 11/19/13, raaju bidh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Some how I also agree with bala sir, doing exam

Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEEMain guidelines

[Srikanth Bolla]

Hi again, just let me reiterate that we are not trying or wasting time to
understand ways of sited and blind people cheating.   I hope it's the duty
of law. We are trying to   find ways to promote healthy learning and
successful talent among blind people. Anyone can cheat at their own risk. So
blind people also can cheat in many ways but we want to exclude scribe
source of cheating.
Regards, -Original Message-
From: Pinkesh Tailor [mailto:pinkesh.tai...@gmail.com]  
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 11:14 PM
To: presidentsrika...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing
accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in
JEEMain guidelines

Hello,
Indeed a healthy debate. But it is a matter of ethics and value whether
sighted or blind. Even sighted people if dishonest can copy and pass any
kind of exam. Blind people are also human. Unfortunately we don't wish to
come out of our blindness and become a human first who has their own
strengths and weeknesses whether sighted or blind.

On 11/20/13, Srikanth Bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Umaji,
   Yes you are right you  may have scribe from the same background but 
 the scribe should be assigned by the examination center. I am fine 
 even if we are given own scribes but there should be very strict 
 invigilation. For example, they have to video tape the entire exam as I
said in my  previous
 email.   Another thing is that the seating of the scribe and student
should
 clearly visible and may not facilitate any random interaction. My 
 concern here is not to oppose own scribe idea but I don't really want 
 any unqualified student to pass out.  These unqualified students are 
 spoiling the entire blind community name. Regards,

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
 Behalf of Uma V
 Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 12:34 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
 concerning the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in 
 JEEMain guidelines

 Hi all,

 I agree with the views of Mr. Srikanth. Many VI students are taking 
 advantage of their disability, by asking the scribe to prepare for 
 their exams.
 But, there is one more point here. I am doing my LLM right now. Next 
 year I am planning to appear for NET. If the concerned centre 
 authorities provide me a scribe who is from science background, he/she 
 cannot pronounce many of the legal maxims properly. Then, what would be my
position?
 I am not talking without evidence. I already had a bitter experience in
it.
 Last year, I appeared for AP PG Law CET 2012, for which the scribe was 
 provided by the University in which I wrote my exam. Do you know what 
 was the result of it?
 The scribe was a clerk in some department in the University who was 
 aged more than 55 years, who did not know English, read me the 
 question paper in such a manner that I am not able to understand even 
 the basic questions properly because he told me openly when I asked 
 him to repeat the questions once more, you are irritating me.
 At last, I scored only 86 for 120 marks, though I know 110 answers 
 perfectly(when my father read the questions at home, I am able to answer).
 So, bringing our own scribe is nothing wrong in my opinion. But, VI 
 candidates should not misuse the privileges given to them by the 
 Government.
 one more point here is,
 not only for science students, but also for literature, law etc, there 
 is a need for them to get a scribe from their own background.
 Sorry if it hurts anyone, its my personal opinion.
 On 11/19/13, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Srikanth and Kartik,

 I second Srinivasu's second mail that you are certainly not wasting 
 any time.  In fact, this is one of the most fruitful discussions on 
 the list.

 I'm somewhat busy with personal assignments, hence will write briefly.
  No conclusions, only analysis.

 1.  Writing exam on the computer

 Very few visually challenged people have access to the computer with 
 screen reader in India.  So, can't expect every one to do it.

 2.  Own scribe

 Very helpful for genuine candidates.  At the same time, very easy to 
 cheat the examination body if candidate is not genuine, especially 
 with the present guidelines.

 3. Scribe provided by examination body

 Okay if scribe is good.  Hell if otherwise.  Spelling every word to 
 the scribe is impossible.  As far as selective words are concerned, 
 you won't know which words are misspelt by the scribe.

 4.  Strengthening invigilation

  Ideal solution.  But invigilators are also human.  Blind people will
 easily  make them sympathise with them.  This may hurt some.   But can
 not rule out the reality.

 What is the solution?





 On 11/19/13, raaju bidh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Some how I also agree with bala sir, doing exam on the computer give 
 any vi students independent

[AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines

[Kartik Sawhney]

Hi all,

It gives me immense pleasure to share with you that CBSE has amended
its rule for Joint Entrance Examination (main), the entrance
examination for most of the tech schools in the country (also a
qualifying exam for the IITs). Until last year, the Board allowed a
non-Science scribe (from Commerce (without Mathematics) or Humanities)
stream, and that too from class XI (two years junior to the
candidate). this had several issues, most notably that the scribe will
not be familiar with the technical symbols on the test, and hence will
not be able to convey those to the candidate.

According to the information brochure for JEE Main 2014, there is no
eligibility criteria for a scribe. Moreover, the candidate can opt to
bring his/her own scribe. In case the candidate opts to use a scribe
provided by the centre superintendent of the test centre, the
superintendent needs to ensure that both the scribe and the candidate
meet at least an hour before the examination to get comfortable with
each other.

Unfortunately, nothing has been done to make the diagrams on the test
accessible. Further, JEE Advanced (the entrance exam for IITs), allows
a Science student as a scribe, but from class XI. It also does not
allow the candidate to brin his/her own scribe. Despite all of this, I
feel we are close. I would urge the organisations working for the
blind to take this forward, and help future Science aspirants get the
benefits of the elite education imparted at these institutes.

The information brochures for both the exams are located on their
respective websites at http://jeemain.nic.in and
http://jeeadv.iitd.ac.in.

Best,

-- 
-Kartik Sawhney,
Cell: +1-(650) 492-3220
E-mail ID: sawhney.kar...@gmail.com (all personal E-mails);
karti...@stanford.edu (all academic E-mails)
Skype: kartik.sawhney22

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Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines

[Srikanth Bolla]

Hi Karthik,
How are you? I am fine. I tried calling you but I could not catch you
yesterday. Can you send me your number on my personal email? Thank you so
much for sharing this news.  Although this is great news for some,   in
general, this is not helpful I believe. If you are allowed to bring your own
scribe, then how can we make sure the   real talent?  For example, I can
bring science student who was topper earlier and not study and make him or
her write the entire exam.  Let me tell you. In India many people who are
passing out of M.A and PG's are not even qualified for plus2 level. They
don't even know basic math. I have five of my employees who passed out of PG
but they don't know basic additions. Without knowing anything, how did they
pass out from a reputed university? This is because of own scribe.  I feel
like we are going back rather than going forward. I agree that the scribe
should be from the same background but the scribe should be allotted by the
examination center and scribe and the student should not have any previous
contact other than one hour meeting before the exam if the student prefers.
If I was given my own scribe, I would have made state rank in plus1 and 2.
This is the same case with everyone. So I completely agree with you about
the diagrams. They have to do something about it but own scribe idea is
completely in favor of people who are taking the exam. Let me give you the
example, most blind students are poor in solving algebraic or differential
equations. Even I was pretty bad during my plus1. If you have own scribe, we
end up just making him solve all math equations for us which is not fare. So
I really advise organizations to fight for equal rights but not special
favorable rights.   I also was forced to help my class mates to pass public
exams. For example, we were all put in a single room in the examination
center. Then I use to circulate my answer sheet across the room for all my
class mates to copy. This is the real situation with most blind schools.
Why should be put in a single room illegally by corrupting the invigilators?
Can't we go to our assigned centers? Why do we need this? Are we not
capable? Can't we prove our own talent? If we always want special extra
privileges, then we will never compete with main stream world.  If we want
sympathy and special extra privileges, we don't have right  to blame
mainstream society for not giving us equal opportunities. Of course you may
score excellent and attend world class universities but there we will end up
failing. Sadly, this is what is happening with employers. I forwarded many
blind students to seamen's, Sysco and GE but many of them failed in the
interview because they don't even have basic formalities and skills. When
you look at the Resume, you see big degrees but the stuff is nil. Take my
own case for example. Sadly, I had to fire two of my blind employees because
they were not even able to count 25 pieces of products and pack in a plastic
cover even after continuous months of training. Another example is, one of
my employee is not able to tie a bundle with rope even after one month
training.   But do you know? Both of them cleared M.A and PG. do you think
that education is useful for them? If they can't count even 20 numbers, who
will give job for them? On the other hand, all these organizations will
fight for equal rights in everytnbing. If people like these does not prove,
who else will get an opportunity? So all, I request you to realize the
reality and work accordingly. Sorry for being direct but this is out of real
and practical experience. Regards,
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
of Kartik Sawhney
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 2:34 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main
guidelines

Hi all,

It gives me immense pleasure to share with you that CBSE has amended its
rule for Joint Entrance Examination (main), the entrance examination for
most of the tech schools in the country (also a qualifying exam for the
IITs). Until last year, the Board allowed a non-Science scribe (from
Commerce (without Mathematics) or Humanities) stream, and that too from
class XI (two years junior to the candidate). this had several issues, most
notably that the scribe will not be familiar with the technical symbols on
the test, and hence will not be able to convey those to the candidate.

According to the information brochure for JEE Main 2014, there is no
eligibility criteria for a scribe. Moreover, the candidate can opt to bring
his/her own scribe. In case the candidate opts to use a scribe provided by
the centre superintendent of the test centre, the superintendent needs to
ensure that both the scribe and the candidate meet at least an hour before
the examination to get comfortable with each other.

Unfortunately, nothing has been done to make the diagrams on the test
accessible. Further, JEE

Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines

[Srikanth Bolla]

Don't worry. I have your number now

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kartik Sawhney
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 2:34 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main
guidelines

Hi all,

It gives me immense pleasure to share with you that CBSE has amended its
rule for Joint Entrance Examination (main), the entrance examination for
most of the tech schools in the country (also a qualifying exam for the
IITs). Until last year, the Board allowed a non-Science scribe (from
Commerce (without Mathematics) or Humanities) stream, and that too from
class XI (two years junior to the candidate). this had several issues, most
notably that the scribe will not be familiar with the technical symbols on
the test, and hence will not be able to convey those to the candidate.

According to the information brochure for JEE Main 2014, there is no
eligibility criteria for a scribe. Moreover, the candidate can opt to bring
his/her own scribe. In case the candidate opts to use a scribe provided by
the centre superintendent of the test centre, the superintendent needs to
ensure that both the scribe and the candidate meet at least an hour before
the examination to get comfortable with each other.

Unfortunately, nothing has been done to make the diagrams on the test
accessible. Further, JEE Advanced (the entrance exam for IITs), allows a
Science student as a scribe, but from class XI. It also does not allow the
candidate to brin his/her own scribe. Despite all of this, I feel we are
close. I would urge the organisations working for the blind to take this
forward, and help future Science aspirants get the benefits of the elite
education imparted at these institutes.

The information brochures for both the exams are located on their respective
websites at http://jeemain.nic.in and http://jeeadv.iitd.ac.in.

Best,

--
-Kartik Sawhney,
Cell: +1-(650) 492-3220
E-mail ID: sawhney.kar...@gmail.com (all personal E-mails);
karti...@stanford.edu (all academic E-mails)
Skype: kartik.sawhney22

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Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines

[Kartik Sawhney]

Hi Srikanth,

While I agree with you for most part, I strongly feel that in
competitive exams like IIT-JEE and other entrance exams where speed is
utmost important, it's important that you've worked with the scribe
for quite sometime in advance. consider this: you are not allowed the
use of any assistive technology for scratch work, and you're trying to
solve a question in linear algebra (say calculating the inverse of a
matrix), it'll take a very long time explaining the scribe how the
inverse is to be calculated. Instead, you would probably want to walk
him through the process real quick, and since he's already worked with
you on a similar problem, he can understand what you imply. Or, maybe,
consider a question involving optical isomerism in Organic Chemistry,
you would probably want the configuration to be described in a
particular non-ambiguous way, rather than wasting your time trying to
figure out how you want your scribe to explain that to you. To curve
unfair means, it is invigilation which needs to be strengthened. Isn't
that done to curve the use of unfair means for sighted students? Then,
why not for us?

I'm aware of the situation that you've described, and it is indeed
deplorable. However, making such norms that inhibit genuine talent at
the cost of trying to ensure a fair exam is not, in my view, the best
way to go forward. Either we need to allow assistive technology to
enable the blind student to take the test independently and just rely
on the scribe to bubble the responses, or we need to provide the
candidate with a comfortable atmosphere with strong invigilation. BTW,
I, too, am totally against segregating blind students for the purposes
of taking exams.

Best,

On 11/18/13, Srikanth Bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com wrote:
 Don't worry. I have your number now

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Kartik Sawhney
 Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 2:34 PM
 To: accessindia
 Subject: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main
 guidelines

 Hi all,

 It gives me immense pleasure to share with you that CBSE has amended its
 rule for Joint Entrance Examination (main), the entrance examination for
 most of the tech schools in the country (also a qualifying exam for the
 IITs). Until last year, the Board allowed a non-Science scribe (from
 Commerce (without Mathematics) or Humanities) stream, and that too from
 class XI (two years junior to the candidate). this had several issues, most
 notably that the scribe will not be familiar with the technical symbols on
 the test, and hence will not be able to convey those to the candidate.

 According to the information brochure for JEE Main 2014, there is no
 eligibility criteria for a scribe. Moreover, the candidate can opt to bring
 his/her own scribe. In case the candidate opts to use a scribe provided by
 the centre superintendent of the test centre, the superintendent needs to
 ensure that both the scribe and the candidate meet at least an hour before
 the examination to get comfortable with each other.

 Unfortunately, nothing has been done to make the diagrams on the test
 accessible. Further, JEE Advanced (the entrance exam for IITs), allows a
 Science student as a scribe, but from class XI. It also does not allow the
 candidate to brin his/her own scribe. Despite all of this, I feel we are
 close. I would urge the organisations working for the blind to take this
 forward, and help future Science aspirants get the benefits of the elite
 education imparted at these institutes.

 The information brochures for both the exams are located on their
 respective
 websites at http://jeemain.nic.in and http://jeeadv.iitd.ac.in.

 Best,

 --
 -Kartik Sawhney,
 Cell: +1-(650) 492-3220
 E-mail ID: sawhney.kar...@gmail.com (all personal E-mails);
 karti...@stanford.edu (all academic E-mails)
 Skype: kartik.sawhney22

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[AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines

[Kartik Sawhney]

Hi Srikanth,

While I agree with you for most part, I strongly feel that in
competitive exams like IIT-JEE and other entrance exams where speed is
utmost important, it's important that you've worked with the scribe
for quite sometime in advance. consider this: you are not allowed the
use of any assistive technology for scratch work, and you're trying to
solve a question in linear algebra (say calculating the inverse of a
matrix), it'll take a very long time explaining the scribe how the
inverse is to be calculated. Instead, you would probably want to walk
him through the process real quick, and since he's already worked with
you on a similar problem, he can understand what you imply. Or, maybe,
consider a question involving optical isomerism in Organic Chemistry,
you would probably want the configuration to be described in a
particular non-ambiguous way, rather than wasting your time trying to
figure out how you want your scribe to explain that to you. To curve
unfair means, it is invigilation which needs to be strengthened. Isn't
that done to curve the use of unfair means for sighted students? Then,
why not for us?

I'm aware of the situation that you've described, and it is indeed
deplorable. However, making such norms that inhibit genuine talent at
the cost of trying to ensure a fair exam is not, in my view, the best
way to go forward. Either we need to allow assistive technology to
enable the blind student to take the test independently and just rely
on the scribe to bubble the responses, or we need to provide the
candidate with a comfortable atmosphere with strong invigilation. BTW,
I, too, am totally against segregating blind students for the purposes
of taking exams.

Best,

On 11/18/13, Srikanth Bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com wrote:
 Don't worry. I have your number now

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Kartik Sawhney
 Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 2:34 PM
 To: accessindia
 Subject: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main
 guidelines

 Hi all,

 It gives me immense pleasure to share with you that CBSE has amended its
 rule for Joint Entrance Examination (main), the entrance examination for
 most of the tech schools in the country (also a qualifying exam for the
 IITs). Until last year, the Board allowed a non-Science scribe (from
 Commerce (without Mathematics) or Humanities) stream, and that too from
 class XI (two years junior to the candidate). this had several issues, most
 notably that the scribe will not be familiar with the technical symbols on
 the test, and hence will not be able to convey those to the candidate.

 According to the information brochure for JEE Main 2014, there is no
 eligibility criteria for a scribe. Moreover, the candidate can opt to bring
 his/her own scribe. In case the candidate opts to use a scribe provided by
 the centre superintendent of the test centre, the superintendent needs to
 ensure that both the scribe and the candidate meet at least an hour before
 the examination to get comfortable with each other.

 Unfortunately, nothing has been done to make the diagrams on the test
 accessible. Further, JEE Advanced (the entrance exam for IITs), allows a
 Science student as a scribe, but from class XI. It also does not allow the
 candidate to brin his/her own scribe. Despite all of this, I feel we are
 close. I would urge the organisations working for the blind to take this
 forward, and help future Science aspirants get the benefits of the elite
 education imparted at these institutes.

 The information brochures for both the exams are located on their
 respective
 websites at http://jeemain.nic.in and http://jeeadv.iitd.ac.in.

 Best,

 --
 -Kartik Sawhney,
 Cell: +1-(650) 492-3220
 E-mail ID: sawhney.kar...@gmail.com (all personal E-mails);
 karti...@stanford.edu (all academic E-mails)
 Skype: kartik.sawhney22

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Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines

[Srikanth Bolla]

Dear Karthik,
   I agree with you in terms of working out math or chemistry questions.
But please remember, scribes duty is to verbatim read the question and take
down the answer as you say  but not imply in his own words.  He is also not
supposed to reread the question in simple words or explain you the situation
in his or her own words. Do you know? We make mistakes just because we don't
understand  the way  the question  is formatted though we know the concept
and the correct answer. This happens mainly in the coding. Implications can
be in many ways.  Even if I give him wrong final value but the process is
correct, do you suggest that he should fix my final value by implying? Sited
students will calculate the answer and mark on the answer sheet without
scratch paper, so why not us in the mind? We can give the scribe final
answer. If you tell the scribe to do the problem, he may make math error or
if you have to calculate that problem, you might make simple math error
which might get you wrong answer.  Take your example, calculating the
inverse of a 3/3 or above, the process is extremely simple but we end up
making math errors due to lot of numbers. So this is something scribe cannot
do for us. So indirectly, we are asking the scribe to solve a problem for us
which is not fare. Since he worked with us before does not mean that he
should imply that you know the answer and write. In nervousness and under
time constraint, we end up making silly mistakes though we know the correct
answer. So why scribe should fix those mistakes? When sited students don't
have this competitive advantage of working with a person who knows the
answers, then why us? If you give me this privilege, I can go and crack
IIT-JE or gate or cat, or   CA or IAS or ICW or any exam you can think of
without any problem. I have people who went through these exams and did not
clear or cleared. Since they know how to work on these exams, I can maybe
hit top rank or at least clear without much of my talent.  Do you think this
is not possible? We are talking about being fare but how many people will
use this opportunity fairly? If people are already using these kind of
opportunities well, then why problems of getting job or competing with main
stream society?  I know many people who did not even go to college  for one
days but got 90%. Do you think this is possible? I do however; understand
that the visual part is bad for us. for example, when I took SAT, globe
detective agency administered the test. They sat with us for the entire
duration of the test looking for the similarities of my answers and scribe's
pen marks. So at least there should be someone proctoring the exam when own
scribe is given or it should be videotaped to ensure fare exam. people can
find 100 ways to miss use the opportunity. So before we make guidelines, we
have to consider all possibilities. I just would like to remind that finding
the invers of a matrix might be tricky for a blind person but it would be
really easy since the sited student can see the numbers.  I also propose
that the question paper should be given in brail audio or in print. Then the
students can choose to opt his or her preference. Then he or she should be
able to record answers in to blank audio recorder.  This way, he or she can
walk through the entire process  so that the valuators can consider even if
the final answer is wrong. When we are talking about  competitive exams like
IIT, CA and CAT, most questions  other than  maybe few sections are multiple
choice. So  a student can be given a scribe for scribing the essay or
writing part and remaining  questions, the student has to answer. As I
mentioned above, the definition of the scribe is to read questions verbatim
as on the test paper. he or she is not supposed to explain. So when test
paper is read by an experienced person in to audio tape or record, then that
will be equal to a science or subject oriented scribe. If we don't make
strict but fare accommodations, then people will continue to miss use. For
example, as I mentioned, at MIT, I will not even know who  the scribe is
till I enter the room. then  we have to turn the video recorder on before we
begin the exam. we are not supposed to talk  each other about test
questions. Of course this is bit harsh but I believe this is fare. Regards,


-Original Message-
From: Kartik Sawhney [mailto:sawhney.kar...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 3:35 PM
To: presidentsrika...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing
accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE
Main guidelines

Hi Srikanth,

While I agree with you for most part, I strongly feel that in competitive
exams like IIT-JEE and other entrance exams where speed is utmost important,
it's important that you've worked with the scribe for quite sometime in
advance. consider this: you are not allowed the use of any assistive
technology for scratch

Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines

[Kartik Sawhney]

 guidelines, we
 have to consider all possibilities. I just would like to remind that
 finding
 the invers of a matrix might be tricky for a blind person but it would be
 really easy since the sited student can see the numbers.  I also propose
 that the question paper should be given in brail audio or in print. Then
 the
 students can choose to opt his or her preference. Then he or she should be
 able to record answers in to blank audio recorder.  This way, he or she can
 walk through the entire process  so that the valuators can consider even if
 the final answer is wrong. When we are talking about  competitive exams
 like
 IIT, CA and CAT, most questions  other than  maybe few sections are
 multiple
 choice. So  a student can be given a scribe for scribing the essay or
 writing part and remaining  questions, the student has to answer. As I
 mentioned above, the definition of the scribe is to read questions verbatim
 as on the test paper. he or she is not supposed to explain. So when test
 paper is read by an experienced person in to audio tape or record, then
 that
 will be equal to a science or subject oriented scribe. If we don't make
 strict but fare accommodations, then people will continue to miss use. For
 example, as I mentioned, at MIT, I will not even know who  the scribe is
 till I enter the room. then  we have to turn the video recorder on before
 we
 begin the exam. we are not supposed to talk  each other about test
 questions. Of course this is bit harsh but I believe this is fare. Regards,


 -Original Message-
 From: Kartik Sawhney [mailto:sawhney.kar...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 3:35 PM
 To: presidentsrika...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing
 accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE
 Main guidelines

 Hi Srikanth,

 While I agree with you for most part, I strongly feel that in competitive
 exams like IIT-JEE and other entrance exams where speed is utmost
 important,
 it's important that you've worked with the scribe for quite sometime in
 advance. consider this: you are not allowed the use of any assistive
 technology for scratch work, and you're trying to solve a question in
 linear
 algebra (say calculating the inverse of a matrix), it'll take a very long
 time explaining the scribe how the inverse is to be calculated. Instead,
 you
 would probably want to walk him through the process real quick, and since
 he's already worked with you on a similar problem, he can understand what
 you imply. Or, maybe, consider a question involving optical isomerism in
 Organic Chemistry, you would probably want the configuration to be
 described
 in a particular non-ambiguous way, rather than wasting your time trying to
 figure out how you want your scribe to explain that to you. To curve unfair
 means, it is invigilation which needs to be strengthened. Isn't that done
 to
 curve the use of unfair means for sighted students? Then, why not for us?

 I'm aware of the situation that you've described, and it is indeed
 deplorable. However, making such norms that inhibit genuine talent at the
 cost of trying to ensure a fair exam is not, in my view, the best way to go
 forward. Either we need to allow assistive technology to enable the blind
 student to take the test independently and just rely on the scribe to
 bubble
 the responses, or we need to provide the candidate with a comfortable
 atmosphere with strong invigilation. BTW, I, too, am totally against
 segregating blind students for the purposes of taking exams.

 Best,

 On 11/18/13, Srikanth Bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com wrote:
 Don't worry. I have your number now

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf Of Kartik Sawhney
 Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 2:34 PM
 To: accessindia
 Subject: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE
 Main guidelines

 Hi all,

 It gives me immense pleasure to share with you that CBSE has amended
 its rule for Joint Entrance Examination (main), the entrance
 examination for most of the tech schools in the country (also a
 qualifying exam for the IITs). Until last year, the Board allowed a
 non-Science scribe (from Commerce (without Mathematics) or Humanities)
 stream, and that too from class XI (two years junior to the
 candidate). this had several issues, most notably that the scribe will
 not be familiar with the technical symbols on the test, and hence will
 not
 be able to convey those to the candidate.

 According to the information brochure for JEE Main 2014, there is no
 eligibility criteria for a scribe. Moreover, the candidate can opt to
 bring his/her own scribe. In case the candidate opts to use a scribe
 provided by the centre superintendent of the test centre, the
 superintendent needs to ensure that both the scribe and the candidate
 meet at least an hour before the examination to get comfortable

Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines

[Srikanth Bolla]

Dear Karthik,
   I am not here to test the remembering abilities of blind people. Even I
cannot remember multiple math steps in my mind. For that matter, I will
trouble my scribe to read again and again when it comes to long messy
equations. I am sorry. Maybe I was not clear enough. Yes you are absolutely
right. Scribe can track your intermediary steps and read them back to you
any number of times but the scribe is not supposed to perform calculations
on your behalf unless you tell specifics.  In my view, scribe should not
perform simple math calculation you quoted as that can be done by a blind
person in the presence of a tailor frame.  I do understand that IIT or other
exams may not test you long calculations but if they do, there is a reason
and every student is expected to perform those calculations on own. So I am
not sure whether I agree with your statement which says that thee simple and
long calculations can be done   by the scribe. So I feel organizations
should work with the examination boards to allow assistive technology with
high security measures. Then wherever sited students are doing scratch work
or small calculations, blind person can do them on the assistive technology.
For example you might tell him to write down  1/2*5/7 but you may not tell
him  the final answer so the scribe should  be able to ask you for the
answer and not imply just because he or she worked with you previously.
Of course where ever there is opportunity for scratch work, then blind
students should be given to take tailor frame or computer with imposed
restrictions. I know we are talking about specifics but let’s come back to
the big picture. I quoted number of problems of having an own scribe. So can
you please site reasons  for requesting own scribe if the examination center
can provide scribe from the same subject background and can facilitate one
hour previous interaction before the exam? You are a great man Karthik. You
are an inspiration for real hard working blind people in India.  I am amazed
by your use of computer from the first standard. People like you should
strive to convince examination boards to allow assistive technology or
accessible tactile tools so that they can create fare experience for blind
student. Finally, own scribe is a bad idea according to me. By the way, can
you please explain how you were able to use computer? For example, did you
go through any security checks before the exam or did they give you the
computer?

-Original Message-
From: Kartik Sawhney [mailto:sawhney.kar...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 4:53 PM
To: presidentsrika...@gmail.com
Cc: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE
Main guidelines

Hi Srikanth,

I may point out that the sighted students have the privilege of using a
scratch paper for Mathematical computations. These exams do not just involve
an OMR sheet, but provide you a lot of space for rough work throughout the
test booklet. If sighted are allowed to perform scratch work, then there
should not be a problem to have blind students do the same. Personally, I
cannot keep track of a 4×4 matrix, its transpose, cofactor matrix and then
the inverse in my mind (and so cannot the brightest student in my class). I
need someone to keep record of these for me, especially since I have no
tools or assistive technology. When a sighted studet is not expected to keep
track of these values, then why should a blind student be expected to do so?
Also, your definition of scribe is rather narrow. If you look up the
definition of scribe (the ETS version which is followed for the conduct of
the SAT test), you will realize that it permits scratch work in the absence
of other tools.

Also, realize that there is a difference in rephrasing a question, solving a
question and keeping track of the intermediate steps. the first two are
absolutely unacceptable, but the last should be absolutely fine. Further, we
need to be very clear about the objective of the test in question. The
IIT-JEE does not seek to measure your proficiency at calculations (6th grade
exams are good for that); it seeks to measure your conceptual ability.
Having someone calculate
4×6.022×10^23/6.626×10^-34×3×10^8 in the absence of taylor frame or
spreadsheet application is fine in my view. However, the scribe plugging in
those values without the candidate asking him to do so may be construed as
unfair.

Of course, the ideal mode will be to have the exam in Braille, E-text or
audio (fortunately, that's slowly happening; I took my Board exams using a
computer without a scribe).

Best,
--
-Kartik Sawhney,
Cell: +1-(650) 492-3220
E-mail ID: sawhney.kar...@gmail.com (all personal E-mails);
karti...@stanford.edu (all academic E-mails)
Skype: kartik.sawhney22




On 11/18/13, Srikanth Bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Karthik,
I agree with you in terms of working out math

Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines

[Kartik Sawhney]

 or computer with imposed
 restrictions. I know we are talking about specifics but let’s come back to
 the big picture. I quoted number of problems of having an own scribe. So
 can
 you please site reasons  for requesting own scribe if the examination
 center
 can provide scribe from the same subject background and can facilitate one
 hour previous interaction before the exam? You are a great man Karthik. You
 are an inspiration for real hard working blind people in India.  I am
 amazed
 by your use of computer from the first standard. People like you should
 strive to convince examination boards to allow assistive technology or
 accessible tactile tools so that they can create fare experience for blind
 student. Finally, own scribe is a bad idea according to me. By the way, can
 you please explain how you were able to use computer? For example, did you
 go through any security checks before the exam or did they give you the
 computer?

 -Original Message-
 From: Kartik Sawhney [mailto:sawhney.kar...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 4:53 PM
 To: presidentsrika...@gmail.com
 Cc: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE
 Main guidelines

 Hi Srikanth,

 I may point out that the sighted students have the privilege of using a
 scratch paper for Mathematical computations. These exams do not just
 involve
 an OMR sheet, but provide you a lot of space for rough work throughout the
 test booklet. If sighted are allowed to perform scratch work, then there
 should not be a problem to have blind students do the same. Personally, I
 cannot keep track of a 4×4 matrix, its transpose, cofactor matrix and then
 the inverse in my mind (and so cannot the brightest student in my class). I
 need someone to keep record of these for me, especially since I have no
 tools or assistive technology. When a sighted studet is not expected to
 keep
 track of these values, then why should a blind student be expected to do
 so?
 Also, your definition of scribe is rather narrow. If you look up the
 definition of scribe (the ETS version which is followed for the conduct of
 the SAT test), you will realize that it permits scratch work in the absence
 of other tools.

 Also, realize that there is a difference in rephrasing a question, solving
 a
 question and keeping track of the intermediate steps. the first two are
 absolutely unacceptable, but the last should be absolutely fine. Further,
 we
 need to be very clear about the objective of the test in question. The
 IIT-JEE does not seek to measure your proficiency at calculations (6th
 grade
 exams are good for that); it seeks to measure your conceptual ability.
 Having someone calculate
 4×6.022×10^23/6.626×10^-34×3×10^8 in the absence of taylor frame or
 spreadsheet application is fine in my view. However, the scribe plugging in
 those values without the candidate asking him to do so may be construed as
 unfair.

 Of course, the ideal mode will be to have the exam in Braille, E-text or
 audio (fortunately, that's slowly happening; I took my Board exams using a
 computer without a scribe).

 Best,
 --
 -Kartik Sawhney,
 Cell: +1-(650) 492-3220
 E-mail ID: sawhney.kar...@gmail.com (all personal E-mails);
 karti...@stanford.edu (all academic E-mails)
 Skype: kartik.sawhney22




 On 11/18/13, Srikanth Bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Karthik,
I agree with you in terms of working out math or chemistry questions.
 But please remember, scribes duty is to verbatim read the question and
 take
 down the answer as you say  but not imply in his own words.  He is also
 not
 supposed to reread the question in simple words or explain you the
 situation
 in his or her own words. Do you know? We make mistakes just because we
 don't
 understand  the way  the question  is formatted though we know the
 concept
 and the correct answer. This happens mainly in the coding. Implications
 can
 be in many ways.  Even if I give him wrong final value but the process is
 correct, do you suggest that he should fix my final value by implying?
 Sited
 students will calculate the answer and mark on the answer sheet without
 scratch paper, so why not us in the mind? We can give the scribe final
 answer. If you tell the scribe to do the problem, he may make math error
 or
 if you have to calculate that problem, you might make simple math error
 which might get you wrong answer.  Take your example, calculating the
 inverse of a 3/3 or above, the process is extremely simple but we end up
 making math errors due to lot of numbers. So this is something scribe
 cannot
 do for us. So indirectly, we are asking the scribe to solve a problem for
 us
 which is not fare. Since he worked with us before does not mean that he
 should imply that you know the answer and write. In nervousness and under
 time constraint, we end up making silly mistakes though we know the
 correct
 answer

Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines

[Srikanth Bolla]

Dear Karthik,
   I am thrilled to get your detailed perspective on this problem.  I hope
we both are not the only once writing back and forth and maybe wasting time
on this subject. Nice to know that CBSC gave their own computer and
invigilation.  Sorry they did over in your case. Maybe this might be the
first time so it's just due to lack of awareness. Let me point out your
concern that no talented student should miss out the opportunity due to
lack of accommodations
I am also 100% with you on this. Personally, I lost so much due to lack of
proper accommodations in science subjects. Even I don't want any talented
student to  get hindered by the  discriminatory  procedures, however, I
strictly don't want any  unqualified student to pass out the exams with the
help from scribes.  Talented students struggling are rare but unqualified
and unskilled people getting 100's are seen   in high percentage. Of course
people on this list might debate on this point but once own consciousness
will tell the truth. Personally, I know unqualified people passing out with
more than 80%. Don't you think this is bad? I 100% agree with your point of
recording the entire session and allow own scribe.  Then since there will be
video and audio, student and the scribe will have very less chance to cheat.
Recording the session also can bring out valid questions or concerns from
both parties. Then concern authorities can review and make necessary
accommodations in the education curriculum or in the examination system. I
know all this will not happen overnight but before we ask for own scribe, we
have to bring out these points.  Everyone should be aware that bringing own
scribe means carrying extra responsibilities. Some of the specific questions
we are talking are more for science students.  But in India for everything
people are requesting own scribes. For example, do you think bank exams or
IAS or other groups or teacher entrance involve any scientific notations? I
don't think so. If I am wrong, people can correct me. If   the exam is
mainly literature based, then why do you need your own scribe? Same with
other non-science subjects. For nonscience subjects, you don't even need
scribe from the same background but I can take that easy. But I completely
oppose the idea of own scribe. Getting own scribe is simply an excuse to
pass without working for it. Mainly, assistive technology should be
permitted rather than own scribe.  I don't think explaining about the
diagram or the molecular model is the duty of the scribe. Again, scribe's
duty is to read the question as given on the test paper and record answers
and take down scratch work as you say. So to overcome this problem, tactile
diagrams should be provided. Do you know we have pressure sensitive plastic
paper and the rubber boards? The tool is called draftsman tactile board.
This is wonderful to draw images on the spot. Each student should be given
or allowed to carry these kinds of boards to the exam. Then the scribe can
draw the diagram given on the test paper instantly and lead you to feel the
diagram but not explain in his own words. This will avoid the images
problem. Asking alternative questions for diagrams is also kind of an excuse
in my view. I do understand the miss interpretations of terminology.  That
is why we are requesting the scribe   from the same background. Scribe can
be bit higher level than you but the scribe should not be known to the
student.  Another problem is that scribe's slow writing and time constraint.
So I strongly recommend that double time should be given for each exam. To
overcome miss communication or terminology errors, center should arrange
proctor who will oversee the exam. That Procter should be from the concerned
subject. Then if the scribe has any questions. they can refer to the
proctor. Finally, I don't understand officials view. They said providing a
tactile graphics is a security  concern but don't  they think allowing own
scribe is even worse?  Thank you.
Regards,

---Original Message-
From: Kartik Sawhney [mailto:sawhney.kar...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday,
November 18, 2013 10:44 PM
To: presidentsrika...@gmail.com
Cc: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE
Main guidelines

Hi Srikanth,

CBSE provided their own computer during the Board examinations alongwith two
invigilators-they kind of overdid it in my view, but it is okay.

As far as the problem with the exam centre providing their own scribe goes,
I will quote a personal experience. When I took the National level Science
Talent Search Examination back in 2011, I was given a scribe from class X.
When it came to describing diagrams as no tactile diagrams were provided, he
tried his level best, but was unable to explain most of the diagrams.
Similarly, a question involved working with finding the hybridization of
various carbon atoms. That was perhaps the simplest

Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines

[li...@srinivasu.org]

Guys,
You both are certainly wasting time. I'm reading through each and every email 
on this thread and making my notes. 

In fact, I am planning to get in touch with authorities in Karnataka and Andhra 
Pradesh to see if we can change the scenario here. 

Also, Karthik, it's sad that we couldn't follow-up with IIIT before you move to 
the United States. 

Srikanth, let's talk sometime. 

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @VasuTweets
Sent from my iPhone 4S

 On 19-Nov-2013, at 9:52, Srikanth Bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dear Karthik,
   I am thrilled to get your detailed perspective on this problem.  I hope
 we both are not the only once writing back and forth and maybe wasting time
 on this subject. Nice to know that CBSC gave their own computer and
 invigilation.  Sorry they did over in your case. Maybe this might be the
 first time so it's just due to lack of awareness. Let me point out your
 concern that no talented student should miss out the opportunity due to
 lack of accommodations
 I am also 100% with you on this. Personally, I lost so much due to lack of
 proper accommodations in science subjects. Even I don't want any talented
 student to  get hindered by the  discriminatory  procedures, however, I
 strictly don't want any  unqualified student to pass out the exams with the
 help from scribes.  Talented students struggling are rare but unqualified
 and unskilled people getting 100's are seen   in high percentage. Of course
 people on this list might debate on this point but once own consciousness
 will tell the truth. Personally, I know unqualified people passing out with
 more than 80%. Don't you think this is bad? I 100% agree with your point of
 recording the entire session and allow own scribe.  Then since there will be
 video and audio, student and the scribe will have very less chance to cheat.
 Recording the session also can bring out valid questions or concerns from
 both parties. Then concern authorities can review and make necessary
 accommodations in the education curriculum or in the examination system. I
 know all this will not happen overnight but before we ask for own scribe, we
 have to bring out these points.  Everyone should be aware that bringing own
 scribe means carrying extra responsibilities. Some of the specific questions
 we are talking are more for science students.  But in India for everything
 people are requesting own scribes. For example, do you think bank exams or
 IAS or other groups or teacher entrance involve any scientific notations? I
 don't think so. If I am wrong, people can correct me. If   the exam is
 mainly literature based, then why do you need your own scribe? Same with
 other non-science subjects. For nonscience subjects, you don't even need
 scribe from the same background but I can take that easy. But I completely
 oppose the idea of own scribe. Getting own scribe is simply an excuse to
 pass without working for it. Mainly, assistive technology should be
 permitted rather than own scribe.  I don't think explaining about the
 diagram or the molecular model is the duty of the scribe. Again, scribe's
 duty is to read the question as given on the test paper and record answers
 and take down scratch work as you say. So to overcome this problem, tactile
 diagrams should be provided. Do you know we have pressure sensitive plastic
 paper and the rubber boards? The tool is called draftsman tactile board.
 This is wonderful to draw images on the spot. Each student should be given
 or allowed to carry these kinds of boards to the exam. Then the scribe can
 draw the diagram given on the test paper instantly and lead you to feel the
 diagram but not explain in his own words. This will avoid the images
 problem. Asking alternative questions for diagrams is also kind of an excuse
 in my view. I do understand the miss interpretations of terminology.  That
 is why we are requesting the scribe   from the same background. Scribe can
 be bit higher level than you but the scribe should not be known to the
 student.  Another problem is that scribe's slow writing and time constraint.
 So I strongly recommend that double time should be given for each exam. To
 overcome miss communication or terminology errors, center should arrange
 proctor who will oversee the exam. That Procter should be from the concerned
 subject. Then if the scribe has any questions. they can refer to the
 proctor. Finally, I don't understand officials view. They said providing a
 tactile graphics is a security  concern but don't  they think allowing own
 scribe is even worse?  Thank you.
 Regards,
 
 ---Original Message-
 From: Kartik Sawhney [mailto:sawhney.kar...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday,
 November 18, 2013 10:44 PM
 To: presidentsrika...@gmail.com
 Cc: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE
 Main guidelines
 
 Hi Srikanth,
 
 CBSE provided

Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines

[Srikanth Bolla]

Hello Srinivasuji,
   Owe, owe, we did  not  mean to waste our time. though we are so busy, we 
spent writing and expressed  points  to create that awareness. Anyway, thanks 
so much for your email and I  look forward to talking to you sometime.  thank 
you. regards, -Original Message-
From: li...@srinivasu.org [mailto:li...@srinivasu.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 12:11 AM
To: presidentsrika...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing 
accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.
Cc: Kartik Sawhney; AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main 
guidelines

Guys,
You both are certainly wasting time. I'm reading through each and every email 
on this thread and making my notes. 

In fact, I am planning to get in touch with authorities in Karnataka and Andhra 
Pradesh to see if we can change the scenario here. 

Also, Karthik, it's sad that we couldn't follow-up with IIIT before you move to 
the United States. 

Srikanth, let's talk sometime. 

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @VasuTweets Sent from my iPhone 4S

 On 19-Nov-2013, at 9:52, Srikanth Bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dear Karthik,
   I am thrilled to get your detailed perspective on this problem.  I 
 hope we both are not the only once writing back and forth and maybe 
 wasting time on this subject. Nice to know that CBSC gave their own 
 computer and invigilation.  Sorry they did over in your case. Maybe 
 this might be the first time so it's just due to lack of awareness. 
 Let me point out your concern that no talented student should miss 
 out the opportunity due to lack of accommodations
 I am also 100% with you on this. Personally, I lost so much due to 
 lack of proper accommodations in science subjects. Even I don't want 
 any talented student to  get hindered by the  discriminatory  
 procedures, however, I strictly don't want any  unqualified student to 
 pass out the exams with the help from scribes.  Talented students struggling 
 are rare but unqualified
 and unskilled people getting 100's are seen   in high percentage. Of course
 people on this list might debate on this point but once own 
 consciousness will tell the truth. Personally, I know unqualified 
 people passing out with more than 80%. Don't you think this is bad? I 
 100% agree with your point of recording the entire session and allow 
 own scribe.  Then since there will be video and audio, student and the scribe 
 will have very less chance to cheat.
 Recording the session also can bring out valid questions or concerns 
 from both parties. Then concern authorities can review and make 
 necessary accommodations in the education curriculum or in the 
 examination system. I know all this will not happen overnight but 
 before we ask for own scribe, we have to bring out these points.  
 Everyone should be aware that bringing own scribe means carrying extra 
 responsibilities. Some of the specific questions we are talking are 
 more for science students.  But in India for everything people are 
 requesting own scribes. For example, do you think bank exams or IAS or other 
 groups or teacher entrance involve any scientific notations? I
 don't think so. If I am wrong, people can correct me. If   the exam is
 mainly literature based, then why do you need your own scribe? Same 
 with other non-science subjects. For nonscience subjects, you don't 
 even need scribe from the same background but I can take that easy. 
 But I completely oppose the idea of own scribe. Getting own scribe is 
 simply an excuse to pass without working for it. Mainly, assistive 
 technology should be permitted rather than own scribe.  I don't think 
 explaining about the diagram or the molecular model is the duty of the 
 scribe. Again, scribe's duty is to read the question as given on the 
 test paper and record answers and take down scratch work as you say. 
 So to overcome this problem, tactile diagrams should be provided. Do 
 you know we have pressure sensitive plastic paper and the rubber boards? The 
 tool is called draftsman tactile board.
 This is wonderful to draw images on the spot. Each student should be 
 given or allowed to carry these kinds of boards to the exam. Then the 
 scribe can draw the diagram given on the test paper instantly and lead 
 you to feel the diagram but not explain in his own words. This will 
 avoid the images problem. Asking alternative questions for diagrams is 
 also kind of an excuse in my view. I do understand the miss interpretations 
 of terminology.  That
 is why we are requesting the scribe   from the same background. Scribe can
 be bit higher level than you but the scribe should not be known to the 
 student.  Another problem is that scribe's slow writing and time constraint.
 So I strongly recommend that double time should be given for each 
 exam. To overcome miss communication

Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines

[li...@srinivasu.org]

Oops. My bad. I meant you guys are certainly not wasting time. Typo. Sorry 
about that. 

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @VasuTweets
Sent from my iPhone 4S

 On 19-Nov-2013, at 11:01, Srikanth Bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello Srinivasuji,
   Owe, owe, we did  not  mean to waste our time. though we are so busy, we 
 spent writing and expressed  points  to create that awareness. Anyway, thanks 
 so much for your email and I  look forward to talking to you sometime.  thank 
 you. regards, -Original Message-
 From: li...@srinivasu.org [mailto:li...@srinivasu.org] 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 12:11 AM
 To: presidentsrika...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing 
 accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.
 Cc: Kartik Sawhney; AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and 
 issues concerning the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE 
 Main guidelines
 
 Guys,
 You both are certainly wasting time. I'm reading through each and every email 
 on this thread and making my notes. 
 
 In fact, I am planning to get in touch with authorities in Karnataka and 
 Andhra Pradesh to see if we can change the scenario here. 
 
 Also, Karthik, it's sad that we couldn't follow-up with IIIT before you move 
 to the United States. 
 
 Srikanth, let's talk sometime. 
 
 Regards,
 Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @VasuTweets Sent from my iPhone 4S
 
 On 19-Nov-2013, at 9:52, Srikanth Bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Dear Karthik,
  I am thrilled to get your detailed perspective on this problem.  I 
 hope we both are not the only once writing back and forth and maybe 
 wasting time on this subject. Nice to know that CBSC gave their own 
 computer and invigilation.  Sorry they did over in your case. Maybe 
 this might be the first time so it's just due to lack of awareness. 
 Let me point out your concern that no talented student should miss 
 out the opportunity due to lack of accommodations
 I am also 100% with you on this. Personally, I lost so much due to 
 lack of proper accommodations in science subjects. Even I don't want 
 any talented student to  get hindered by the  discriminatory  
 procedures, however, I strictly don't want any  unqualified student to 
 pass out the exams with the help from scribes.  Talented students struggling 
 are rare but unqualified
 and unskilled people getting 100's are seen   in high percentage. Of course
 people on this list might debate on this point but once own 
 consciousness will tell the truth. Personally, I know unqualified 
 people passing out with more than 80%. Don't you think this is bad? I 
 100% agree with your point of recording the entire session and allow 
 own scribe.  Then since there will be video and audio, student and the 
 scribe will have very less chance to cheat.
 Recording the session also can bring out valid questions or concerns 
 from both parties. Then concern authorities can review and make 
 necessary accommodations in the education curriculum or in the 
 examination system. I know all this will not happen overnight but 
 before we ask for own scribe, we have to bring out these points.  
 Everyone should be aware that bringing own scribe means carrying extra 
 responsibilities. Some of the specific questions we are talking are 
 more for science students.  But in India for everything people are 
 requesting own scribes. For example, do you think bank exams or IAS or other 
 groups or teacher entrance involve any scientific notations? I
 don't think so. If I am wrong, people can correct me. If   the exam is
 mainly literature based, then why do you need your own scribe? Same 
 with other non-science subjects. For nonscience subjects, you don't 
 even need scribe from the same background but I can take that easy. 
 But I completely oppose the idea of own scribe. Getting own scribe is 
 simply an excuse to pass without working for it. Mainly, assistive 
 technology should be permitted rather than own scribe.  I don't think 
 explaining about the diagram or the molecular model is the duty of the 
 scribe. Again, scribe's duty is to read the question as given on the 
 test paper and record answers and take down scratch work as you say. 
 So to overcome this problem, tactile diagrams should be provided. Do 
 you know we have pressure sensitive plastic paper and the rubber boards? The 
 tool is called draftsman tactile board.
 This is wonderful to draw images on the spot. Each student should be 
 given or allowed to carry these kinds of boards to the exam. Then the 
 scribe can draw the diagram given on the test paper instantly and lead 
 you to feel the diagram but not explain in his own words. This will 
 avoid the images problem. Asking alternative questions for diagrams is 
 also kind of an excuse in my view. I do understand the miss interpretations 
 of terminology.  That
 is why we are requesting the scribe   from the same background

Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines

[Asudani, Rajesh]

Well, not writing a detailed reply but why do you need own scribe if the exam 
is non-scince subjects, literature based?
Please think twice.
A scribe always wrote Yeast, when I said, Yeats
I think this suffices to explain my point.
So, science is not the only subject requiring your own scribe.
Wavelength matters and no authority can impose scribe on us, more often than 
not, they impose utterly inefficient scribes.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Srikanth Bolla
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:53 AM
To: 'Kartik Sawhney'
Cc: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main 
guidelines

Dear Karthik,
   I am thrilled to get your detailed perspective on this problem.  I hope
we both are not the only once writing back and forth and maybe wasting time
on this subject. Nice to know that CBSC gave their own computer and
invigilation.  Sorry they did over in your case. Maybe this might be the
first time so it's just due to lack of awareness. Let me point out your
concern that no talented student should miss out the opportunity due to
lack of accommodations
I am also 100% with you on this. Personally, I lost so much due to lack of
proper accommodations in science subjects. Even I don't want any talented
student to  get hindered by the  discriminatory  procedures, however, I
strictly don't want any  unqualified student to pass out the exams with the
help from scribes.  Talented students struggling are rare but unqualified
and unskilled people getting 100's are seen   in high percentage. Of course
people on this list might debate on this point but once own consciousness
will tell the truth. Personally, I know unqualified people passing out with
more than 80%. Don't you think this is bad? I 100% agree with your point of
recording the entire session and allow own scribe.  Then since there will be
video and audio, student and the scribe will have very less chance to cheat.
Recording the session also can bring out valid questions or concerns from
both parties. Then concern authorities can review and make necessary
accommodations in the education curriculum or in the examination system. I
know all this will not happen overnight but before we ask for own scribe, we
have to bring out these points.  Everyone should be aware that bringing own
scribe means carrying extra responsibilities. Some of the specific questions
we are talking are more for science students.  But in India for everything
people are requesting own scribes. For example, do you think bank exams or
IAS or other groups or teacher entrance involve any scientific notations? I
don't think so. If I am wrong, people can correct me. If   the exam is
mainly literature based, then why do you need your own scribe? Same with
other non-science subjects. For nonscience subjects, you don't even need
scribe from the same background but I can take that easy. But I completely
oppose the idea of own scribe. Getting own scribe is simply an excuse to
pass without working for it. Mainly, assistive technology should be
permitted rather than own scribe.  I don't think explaining about the
diagram or the molecular model is the duty of the scribe. Again, scribe's
duty is to read the question as given on the test paper and record answers
and take down scratch work as you say. So to overcome this problem, tactile
diagrams should be provided. Do you know we have pressure sensitive plastic
paper and the rubber boards? The tool is called draftsman tactile board.
This is wonderful to draw images on the spot. Each student should be given
or allowed to carry these kinds of boards to the exam. Then the scribe can
draw the diagram given on the test paper instantly and lead you to feel the
diagram but not explain in his own words. This will avoid the images
problem. Asking alternative questions for diagrams is also kind of an excuse
in my view. I do understand the miss interpretations of terminology.  That
is why we are requesting the scribe   from the same background. Scribe can
be bit higher level than you but the scribe should not be known to the
student.  Another problem is that scribe's slow writing and time constraint.
So I strongly recommend that double time should be given for each exam. To
overcome miss communication or terminology errors, center should arrange
proctor who will oversee the exam. That Procter should be from the concerned
subject. Then if the scribe has any questions. they can refer to the
proctor. Finally, I don't understand officials view. They said providing a
tactile graphics is a security  concern but don't  they think allowing own
scribe is even worse?  Thank you.
Regards,

---Original Message-
From: Kartik Sawhney [mailto:sawhney.kar...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday,
November 18, 2013 10:44 PM
To: presidentsrika...@gmail.com
Cc: AccessIndia: a list for discussing

Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines

[Srikanth Bolla]

HI,
   We did not mean   we need own scribe for science subjects. I made a
comparison saying that for non-science subjects, there is no need for own
scribe.  Of course, you may request scribe from the center with same
background but even that same background is not needed to write eats or any
other words. If you think the scribe is making mistake, you are supposed to
spell the words. In fact, it's not scribes duty to write correct spellings.
Scribe has all rights to ask you to spell anything that is not clear. So
this is why, we should all promote the use of computers to take exams. Or we
can use recorders to record answers. I hope this will help you understand.
But I am again reiterating that requesting own scribe in many case is just
to escape and pass out. Regards, -Original Message-
From: Asudani, Rajesh [mailto:rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in  ] Sent: Tuesday,
November 19, 2013 1:37 AM
To: presidentsrika...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing
accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.
Subject: RE: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE
Main guidelines

Well, not writing a detailed reply but why do you need own scribe if the
exam is non-scince subjects, literature based?
Please think twice.
A scribe always wrote Yeast, when I said, Yeats
I think this suffices to explain my point.
So, science is not the only subject requiring your own scribe.
Wavelength matters and no authority can impose scribe on us, more often than
not, they impose utterly inefficient scribes.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Srikanth Bolla
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:53 AM
To: 'Kartik Sawhney'
Cc: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE
Main guidelines

Dear Karthik,
   I am thrilled to get your detailed perspective on this problem.  I hope
we both are not the only once writing back and forth and maybe wasting time
on this subject. Nice to know that CBSC gave their own computer and
invigilation.  Sorry they did over in your case. Maybe this might be the
first time so it's just due to lack of awareness. Let me point out your
concern that no talented student should miss out the opportunity due to
lack of accommodations
I am also 100% with you on this. Personally, I lost so much due to lack of
proper accommodations in science subjects. Even I don't want any talented
student to  get hindered by the  discriminatory  procedures, however, I
strictly don't want any  unqualified student to pass out the exams with the
help from scribes.  Talented students struggling are rare but unqualified
and unskilled people getting 100's are seen   in high percentage. Of course
people on this list might debate on this point but once own consciousness
will tell the truth. Personally, I know unqualified people passing out with
more than 80%. Don't you think this is bad? I 100% agree with your point of
recording the entire session and allow own scribe.  Then since there will be
video and audio, student and the scribe will have very less chance to cheat.
Recording the session also can bring out valid questions or concerns from
both parties. Then concern authorities can review and make necessary
accommodations in the education curriculum or in the examination system. I
know all this will not happen overnight but before we ask for own scribe, we
have to bring out these points.  Everyone should be aware that bringing own
scribe means carrying extra responsibilities. Some of the specific questions
we are talking are more for science students.  But in India for everything
people are requesting own scribes. For example, do you think bank exams or
IAS or other groups or teacher entrance involve any scientific notations? I
don't think so. If I am wrong, people can correct me. If   the exam is
mainly literature based, then why do you need your own scribe? Same with
other non-science subjects. For nonscience subjects, you don't even need
scribe from the same background but I can take that easy. But I completely
oppose the idea of own scribe. Getting own scribe is simply an excuse to
pass without working for it. Mainly, assistive technology should be
permitted rather than own scribe.  I don't think explaining about the
diagram or the molecular model is the duty of the scribe. Again, scribe's
duty is to read the question as given on the test paper and record answers
and take down scratch work as you say. So to overcome this problem, tactile
diagrams should be provided. Do you know we have pressure sensitive plastic
paper and the rubber boards? The tool is called draftsman tactile board.
This is wonderful to draw images on the spot. Each student should be given
or allowed to carry these kinds of boards to the exam. Then the scribe can
draw the diagram given on the test paper instantly and lead you to feel the
diagram

Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEEMain guidelines

[raaju]

Some how I also agree with bala sir, doing exam on the computer give any vi
students independent. 
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Srikanth Bolla
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 12:32 PM
To: 'Asudani, Rajesh'; 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility
andissues concerning the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in
JEEMain guidelines

HI,
   We did not mean   we need own scribe for science subjects. I made a
comparison saying that for non-science subjects, there is no need for own
scribe.  Of course, you may request scribe from the center with same
background but even that same background is not needed to write eats or any
other words. If you think the scribe is making mistake, you are supposed to
spell the words. In fact, it's not scribes duty to write correct spellings.
Scribe has all rights to ask you to spell anything that is not clear. So
this is why, we should all promote the use of computers to take exams. Or we
can use recorders to record answers. I hope this will help you understand.
But I am again reiterating that requesting own scribe in many case is just
to escape and pass out. Regards, -Original Message-
From: Asudani, Rajesh [mailto:rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in  ] Sent: Tuesday,
November 19, 2013 1:37 AM
To: presidentsrika...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing
accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.
Subject: RE: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE
Main guidelines

Well, not writing a detailed reply but why do you need own scribe if the
exam is non-scince subjects, literature based?
Please think twice.
A scribe always wrote Yeast, when I said, Yeats
I think this suffices to explain my point.
So, science is not the only subject requiring your own scribe.
Wavelength matters and no authority can impose scribe on us, more often than
not, they impose utterly inefficient scribes.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Srikanth Bolla
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:53 AM
To: 'Kartik Sawhney'
Cc: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE
Main guidelines

Dear Karthik,
   I am thrilled to get your detailed perspective on this problem.  I hope
we both are not the only once writing back and forth and maybe wasting time
on this subject. Nice to know that CBSC gave their own computer and
invigilation.  Sorry they did over in your case. Maybe this might be the
first time so it's just due to lack of awareness. Let me point out your
concern that no talented student should miss out the opportunity due to
lack of accommodations
I am also 100% with you on this. Personally, I lost so much due to lack of
proper accommodations in science subjects. Even I don't want any talented
student to  get hindered by the  discriminatory  procedures, however, I
strictly don't want any  unqualified student to pass out the exams with the
help from scribes.  Talented students struggling are rare but unqualified
and unskilled people getting 100's are seen   in high percentage. Of course
people on this list might debate on this point but once own consciousness
will tell the truth. Personally, I know unqualified people passing out with
more than 80%. Don't you think this is bad? I 100% agree with your point of
recording the entire session and allow own scribe.  Then since there will be
video and audio, student and the scribe will have very less chance to cheat.
Recording the session also can bring out valid questions or concerns from
both parties. Then concern authorities can review and make necessary
accommodations in the education curriculum or in the examination system. I
know all this will not happen overnight but before we ask for own scribe, we
have to bring out these points.  Everyone should be aware that bringing own
scribe means carrying extra responsibilities. Some of the specific questions
we are talking are more for science students.  But in India for everything
people are requesting own scribes. For example, do you think bank exams or
IAS or other groups or teacher entrance involve any scientific notations? I
don't think so. If I am wrong, people can correct me. If   the exam is
mainly literature based, then why do you need your own scribe? Same with
other non-science subjects. For nonscience subjects, you don't even need
scribe from the same background but I can take that easy. But I completely
oppose the idea of own scribe. Getting own scribe is simply an excuse to
pass without working for it. Mainly, assistive technology should be
permitted rather than own scribe.  I don't think explaining about the
diagram or the molecular model is the duty of the scribe. Again, scribe's
duty is to read the question as given on the test paper and record answers

[AI] Good News: Proposed Aakash IV technical specifications include talkback and accessibility tools!

[Amar Jain]

Hi List,

I am happy to share that after great follow-up, Aakash IV proposed
specifications include that the Accessibility and talkback be
installed in the Aakash before shipping it to the end-user. Since the
OS is JB 4.2.1 at the time of this paper, there is no extra
requirement of any tool to be installed for accessibility use for
people to get started with it!

Look forward for the availability of Aakash IV!

Regards,
-- 
Amar Jain.
Website: www.amarjain.com

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Re: [AI] Good News: Proposed Aakash IV technical specifications include talkback and accessibility tools!

[shankar shan]

hello mister amar and other experties,
grate to heare that from amith
if possible kindly keep track with google accessability team to access
all the features 1st, with google products,
y i am telling because, even now lot of people r using gmail with
basic html in ristricted mode, i mean to say that how many people r
using all the google products with accessability
can we able to enjoy all the features wich r available in standard
view using basic html?
A visually impaired person can use google sms?
He or she can chat without installing google talk and jaws scripts?
How many of us r using google docs
And do u no some thing?
 without loging in to the gmail account we can keep track of all our
mails with sms feature
I tried to configure but I was not able to do it just because of
accessability issue
Either amith or some other expertise should taken care of this issue


On 7/24/13, Amar Jain amarjain2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi List,

 I am happy to share that after great follow-up, Aakash IV proposed
 specifications include that the Accessibility and talkback be
 installed in the Aakash before shipping it to the end-user. Since the
 OS is JB 4.2.1 at the time of this paper, there is no extra
 requirement of any tool to be installed for accessibility use for
 people to get started with it!

 Look forward for the availability of Aakash IV!

 Regards,
 --
 Amar Jain.
 Website: www.amarjain.com

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Re: [AI] good news

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Congratulations.
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Subject: [AI] good news



dear friends, i am pramoted as a junior clerck at zp ahmednagar. In
the department of primary education. Thanks for your inspiring
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Re: [AI] Good news for disabled employees of NTPC Ltd.

[Prashant Ranjan Verma]

Dear Mukesh,
In the case that we pursued there was a clear denial of equal opportunity. 
In the case that you have mentioned I don't know the leagal situation. Other
legal experts may guide you.



-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of mukesh jain
Sent: 16 March 2012 00:12
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for disabled employees of NTPC Ltd.

hello,
just a small correction in my query. as i have stated that There are more
than half of the quarters are vacant in my project. i have stated this
based on my personal observation. so i would like to simply modify my query
that if there are quarters vacant can i insist them to extend the same
facility as provided to the physically challenged employees in other
projects?
thanks,
mukesh.

On 3/15/12, mukesh jain mukesh.jai...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello sir,
 It's certainly a great move for all of us and long awaited relief. I 
 do take the opportunity to express my sincere thanks for undertaking 
 this noble cause witch will benefit for lot many people.

 I would also like to know about one issue faced by me and several 
 others like me working in my project.

 As you may be aware that we have been provided the staff quarters as 
 per the entitlements of each employee as per policy framed by ntpc for 
 allotment of quarters.

 As per the grade, we have been allotted the quarter A type which is 
 equivalent to 1 BHK. Keeping in mind the visual impairment and the 
 difficulties of moving around in such a small area available in the 
 quarter and lack of space for accommodation to stay with our dependent 
 parents, various employees of ntpc from their projects had approached 
 their management to kindly consider the request of allotting the b 
 type quarter equivalent to 2BHK to them as special consideration.
 Along with the said request, they had also asked the management to 
 provide the intercom facility in the quarter as provided to other 
 senior employees so as to be benefited in contacting the various 
 services like complaint for civil work, hospital emergencies, 
 electricity in case we are not able to accompany the escorts to reach 
 them personally.

 As a matter of gesture, the management of ntpc at various projects 
 accepted the said demand and allotted the b type quarter to all the 
 physically challenged employees of ntpc at their projects.

 In this regard, since I myself is facing the aforesaid difficulties as 
 faced by the other colleagues as mentioned, I have approached the 
 management of my project to which they have replied that since your 
 entitlement does not permit to allow you B type quarter, we may not be 
 able to consider your request at this moment of time.

 In view of the above mentioned circumstances, can I insist the 
 management of my project to treat my case similarly as delt in other 
 projects in providing the quarter as special consideration?
 2 are there any possibilities to do something just like the present 
 case follow up to modify the quarter allotment rules which can be made 
 applicable to physically challenged employees of ntpc?
 3 can this case be treated as discrimination as various projects had 
 already considered the said difficulties put forth by physically 
 challenged employees to allot them B type quarter?
 4 what any other steps I should take to request for the same?

 There are more than half of the quarters are vacant in my project. I 
 am stating this reason because few of the projects were not able to 
 accept the said request made by the physically challenged employees as 
 no sufficient quarters are available to allot the same.

 I am facing great difficulties in accommodating my educational 
 materials such as, Braille books of my education, no enough space to 
 move freely and considering the number of persons including myself and 
 my three dependents staying in such a small place.

 Your reply in this regard would be highly obliged.
 Thanking you,
 mukesh.


 On 3/15/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Please try to copy paste the link text. Sometimes it gets broken into 
 two lines in emails.
 Copyig it again here.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2875242/CCPD%20Judgement%20in%20the%20NTPC%20
 Conveya
 nce%20Scheme%20case.pdf

 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Dinesh
 Sent: 15 March 2012 20:48
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for disabled employees of NTPC Ltd.

 good news. But that dropbox link isn't working.
 - Original Message -
 From: Himanshu Sahu sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 8:38 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for disabled employees of NTPC Ltd.


 Great judgement!
 I remember that few months back on the AI list itself, the same 
 issue was discussed

[AI] Good news for disabled employees of NTPC Ltd.

[Prashant Ranjan Verma]

 

Hi all,

In a case that we filed sometime earlier CCPD has delivered a great
judgement. It will benefit more than 450 persons with disabilities working
at NTPC who were facing discrimination and exclusion. This case may be cited
by employees of other organizations who are facing similar issues.  

The judgement text is copied below. You can get its signed copy from this
link.  

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2875242/CCPD%20Judgement%20in%20the%20NTPC%20Conveya
nce%20Scheme%20case.pdf 

OFFICE OF THE CHIEF COMMISSIONER FOR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES

Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment, Govt, of India

 

Case No. 157/1023/11-12  Dated : 27.02.2012

In the matter of:

Smt. Nirupama J. and Others
Complainants

B-17, NTPC Ltd/FGPS

FGPS Township, Mujedi P.O.

Neemka, Faridabad-121 004

 

Versus

NTPC Limited  
Respondent

Through: Executive Director (HR)

NTPC Bhawan, SCOPE Complex

7, Institutional Area, Lodhi Road,

New Road, New Delhi -110003

 

Date of hearing : 27.02.2012

Present:

(i)   Shri. T.K. Sit, Manager (HR), NTPC. New Delhi.

(ii)  Shri. Chandramauli S.J., Sr. Manager (HR), NTPC, New Delhi.

(iii)  Ms. Nirupama J., A.O. (Finance Deptt.), NTPC, Faridabad.

(iv)Ms. Veena Mehta Verma, Officer (HR), NTPC, Badarpur, Delhi.

(v)Shri. Prashant Ranjan Verma.

 

ORDER

The complainants, in this case filed a complaint dated 06.09.2011 before the
Chief Commissioner for Persons with Disabilities under the Persons with
Disabilities (Equal Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full
Participation) Act, 1995 referred to as 'Act' regarding non-reimbursement of
conveyance expenses to employees with disabilities in NTPC.

 

2. Except Shri Prashant Verma, all the three complainants are stated to be
the employees of NTPC. They have submitted that they are not being
reimbursed the conveyance expenses.

As per them, the scheme of expenditure for local travel for official
purposes provides for reimbursement of the petrol expenses only if the
employee has a vehicle registered in his/her name and he/she holds a valid
driving license. As many person with disabilities neither can drive nor can
get a valid driving license even though they may be owning
two-wheelers/cars, they are not being reimbursed the conveyance expenses.

3. The matter was taken up with NTPC Limited vide letter dated 04.10,2011

4. The respondent vide their letter no.01:HR-Policy:7(16.1) dated 17.11.2011
submitted that the current pay structure and allowances of employees in NTPC
is based on the DPE guidelines dated 26.11.2008 regarding revision of scales
of pay w.e.f. 01.01. 2007 for Central Public Sector Enterprises. These DPE
guidelines do not provide for special payment of transport allowance to
persons with disabilities.

5. The complainants in their rejoinder submitted that the transport
allowance comes under 47% perquisites is applicable to all NTPC employees.
The existing scheme is applicable to all NTPC executives and workmen. They
are requesting for waiving the condition of having a self valid driving
license. As per them a scheme which is meant for all employees should not
have eligibility conditions which exclude 450 odd employees with
disabilities. This has resulted in substantial financial loss and
deprivation of rights of persons with disabilities. Persons who cannot drive
themselves, should be allowed to produce the valid driving license of the
person who drives their vehicle. The complainants have enclosed a copy of
the scheme in Satluj Jal Vidyut Nigam Limited, a public sector undertaking.

6. Upon considering the written submissions of the parties, a personal
hearing was scheduled for 27.02.2012.

7. During the hearing the representative of the respondent submitted that
employees with disabilities can avail the company vehicle in the event of
undertaking any local travel for official purpose. He also clarified that
while non-disabled employees of the company have an option to avail the
reimbursement of expenditure for local conveyance for official purpose,
employees with disabilities do not have any option. He further stated that
under the current norms of the company, only thosg employees who own a
vehicle and who have a self valid driving license are eligible to get the
benefit of reimbursement of expenditure for local conveyance for official
purpose.

8. The complainants highlighted the following points:

(i) That many employees with disabilities including those with visual
impairment, naturally cannot drive the vehicle which they may own. Hence to
deprive them of the option of availing the benefit of the reimbursement of
expenditure for local travel for official purpose is discriminatory and
exclusionary.

 

(ii) While one or two employees with disabilities are getting the option of
the said reimbursement, most are not. There may be situations where even
persons without disability may not like driving their own vehicles or such
persons who may 

Re: [AI] Good news for disabled employees of NTPC Ltd.

[Himanshu Sahu]

Great judgement!
I remember that few months back on the AI list itself, the same issue
was discussed vehemently. The issue was raised by one of the VI
employees of NTPC.

I had strongly recommended for the legal remedy in the matter since it
is a blatant abuse of the spirit of equal opportunity and justice.

However, the suggestion of legal remedy was opposed by another NTPC
employee and one of the honoured list member saying that dragging
family (organisation) in the court being a family member oneself is
not desirable.

Nevertheless, the judgement will be proved a milestone in the endless
struggle of disabled for getting equal opportunity, justice,
recognition and their due respect in the society.

Thanks to disability for acting posibively for disability!


On 3/15/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:


 Hi all,

 In a case that we filed sometime earlier CCPD has delivered a great
 judgement. It will benefit more than 450 persons with disabilities working
 at NTPC who were facing discrimination and exclusion. This case may be cited
 by employees of other organizations who are facing similar issues.

 The judgement text is copied below. You can get its signed copy from this
 link.

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2875242/CCPD%20Judgement%20in%20the%20NTPC%20Conveya
 nce%20Scheme%20case.pdf

 OFFICE OF THE CHIEF COMMISSIONER FOR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES

 Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment, Govt, of India



 Case No. 157/1023/11-12  Dated : 27.02.2012

 In the matter of:

 Smt. Nirupama J. and Others
 Complainants

 B-17, NTPC Ltd/FGPS

 FGPS Township, Mujedi P.O.

 Neemka, Faridabad-121 004



 Versus

 NTPC Limited  
 Respondent

 Through: Executive Director (HR)

 NTPC Bhawan, SCOPE Complex

 7, Institutional Area, Lodhi Road,

 New Road, New Delhi -110003



 Date of hearing : 27.02.2012

 Present:

 (i)   Shri. T.K. Sit, Manager (HR), NTPC. New Delhi.

 (ii)  Shri. Chandramauli S.J., Sr. Manager (HR), NTPC, New Delhi.

 (iii)  Ms. Nirupama J., A.O. (Finance Deptt.), NTPC, Faridabad.

 (iv)Ms. Veena Mehta Verma, Officer (HR), NTPC, Badarpur, Delhi.

 (v)Shri. Prashant Ranjan Verma.



 ORDER

 The complainants, in this case filed a complaint dated 06.09.2011 before the
 Chief Commissioner for Persons with Disabilities under the Persons with
 Disabilities (Equal Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full
 Participation) Act, 1995 referred to as 'Act' regarding non-reimbursement of
 conveyance expenses to employees with disabilities in NTPC.



 2. Except Shri Prashant Verma, all the three complainants are stated to be
 the employees of NTPC. They have submitted that they are not being
 reimbursed the conveyance expenses.

 As per them, the scheme of expenditure for local travel for official
 purposes provides for reimbursement of the petrol expenses only if the
 employee has a vehicle registered in his/her name and he/she holds a valid
 driving license. As many person with disabilities neither can drive nor can
 get a valid driving license even though they may be owning
 two-wheelers/cars, they are not being reimbursed the conveyance expenses.

 3. The matter was taken up with NTPC Limited vide letter dated 04.10,2011

 4. The respondent vide their letter no.01:HR-Policy:7(16.1) dated 17.11.2011
 submitted that the current pay structure and allowances of employees in NTPC
 is based on the DPE guidelines dated 26.11.2008 regarding revision of scales
 of pay w.e.f. 01.01. 2007 for Central Public Sector Enterprises. These DPE
 guidelines do not provide for special payment of transport allowance to
 persons with disabilities.

 5. The complainants in their rejoinder submitted that the transport
 allowance comes under 47% perquisites is applicable to all NTPC employees.
 The existing scheme is applicable to all NTPC executives and workmen. They
 are requesting for waiving the condition of having a self valid driving
 license. As per them a scheme which is meant for all employees should not
 have eligibility conditions which exclude 450 odd employees with
 disabilities. This has resulted in substantial financial loss and
 deprivation of rights of persons with disabilities. Persons who cannot drive
 themselves, should be allowed to produce the valid driving license of the
 person who drives their vehicle. The complainants have enclosed a copy of
 the scheme in Satluj Jal Vidyut Nigam Limited, a public sector undertaking.

 6. Upon considering the written submissions of the parties, a personal
 hearing was scheduled for 27.02.2012.

 7. During the hearing the representative of the respondent submitted that
 employees with disabilities can avail the company vehicle in the event of
 undertaking any local travel for official purpose. He also clarified that
 while non-disabled employees of the company have an option to avail the
 reimbursement of expenditure for local conveyance for official purpose,
 employees with 

Re: [AI] Good news for disabled employees of NTPC Ltd.

[Dinesh]

good news. But that dropbox link isn't working.
- Original Message - 
From: Himanshu Sahu sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for disabled employees of NTPC Ltd.



Great judgement!
I remember that few months back on the AI list itself, the same issue
was discussed vehemently. The issue was raised by one of the VI
employees of NTPC.

I had strongly recommended for the legal remedy in the matter since it
is a blatant abuse of the spirit of equal opportunity and justice.

However, the suggestion of legal remedy was opposed by another NTPC
employee and one of the honoured list member saying that dragging
family (organisation) in the court being a family member oneself is
not desirable.

Nevertheless, the judgement will be proved a milestone in the endless
struggle of disabled for getting equal opportunity, justice,
recognition and their due respect in the society.

Thanks to disability for acting posibively for disability!


On 3/15/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:



Hi all,

In a case that we filed sometime earlier CCPD has delivered a great
judgement. It will benefit more than 450 persons with disabilities 
working
at NTPC who were facing discrimination and exclusion. This case may be 
cited

by employees of other organizations who are facing similar issues.

The judgement text is copied below. You can get its signed copy from this
link.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2875242/CCPD%20Judgement%20in%20the%20NTPC%20Conveya
nce%20Scheme%20case.pdf

OFFICE OF THE CHIEF COMMISSIONER FOR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES

Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment, Govt, of India



Case No. 157/1023/11-12  Dated : 27.02.2012

In the matter of:

Smt. Nirupama J. and Others
Complainants

B-17, NTPC Ltd/FGPS

FGPS Township, Mujedi P.O.

Neemka, Faridabad-121 004



Versus

NTPC Limited  
Respondent

Through: Executive Director (HR)

NTPC Bhawan, SCOPE Complex

7, Institutional Area, Lodhi Road,

New Road, New Delhi -110003



Date of hearing : 27.02.2012

Present:

(i)   Shri. T.K. Sit, Manager (HR), NTPC. New Delhi.

(ii)  Shri. Chandramauli S.J., Sr. Manager (HR), NTPC, New Delhi.

(iii)  Ms. Nirupama J., A.O. (Finance Deptt.), NTPC, Faridabad.

(iv)Ms. Veena Mehta Verma, Officer (HR), NTPC, Badarpur, Delhi.

(v)Shri. Prashant Ranjan Verma.



ORDER

The complainants, in this case filed a complaint dated 06.09.2011 before 
the

Chief Commissioner for Persons with Disabilities under the Persons with
Disabilities (Equal Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full
Participation) Act, 1995 referred to as 'Act' regarding non-reimbursement 
of

conveyance expenses to employees with disabilities in NTPC.



2. Except Shri Prashant Verma, all the three complainants are stated to 
be

the employees of NTPC. They have submitted that they are not being
reimbursed the conveyance expenses.

As per them, the scheme of expenditure for local travel for official
purposes provides for reimbursement of the petrol expenses only if the
employee has a vehicle registered in his/her name and he/she holds a 
valid
driving license. As many person with disabilities neither can drive nor 
can

get a valid driving license even though they may be owning
two-wheelers/cars, they are not being reimbursed the conveyance expenses.

3. The matter was taken up with NTPC Limited vide letter dated 04.10,2011

4. The respondent vide their letter no.01:HR-Policy:7(16.1) dated 
17.11.2011
submitted that the current pay structure and allowances of employees in 
NTPC
is based on the DPE guidelines dated 26.11.2008 regarding revision of 
scales
of pay w.e.f. 01.01. 2007 for Central Public Sector Enterprises. These 
DPE

guidelines do not provide for special payment of transport allowance to
persons with disabilities.

5. The complainants in their rejoinder submitted that the transport
allowance comes under 47% perquisites is applicable to all NTPC 
employees.
The existing scheme is applicable to all NTPC executives and workmen. 
They

are requesting for waiving the condition of having a self valid driving
license. As per them a scheme which is meant for all employees should 
not

have eligibility conditions which exclude 450 odd employees with
disabilities. This has resulted in substantial financial loss and
deprivation of rights of persons with disabilities. Persons who cannot 
drive

themselves, should be allowed to produce the valid driving license of the
person who drives their vehicle. The complainants have enclosed a copy of
the scheme in Satluj Jal Vidyut Nigam Limited, a public sector 
undertaking.


6. Upon considering the written submissions of the parties, a personal
hearing was scheduled for 27.02.2012.

7. During the hearing the representative of the respondent submitted that
employees with disabilities can avail the company vehicle in the event

Re: [AI] Good news for disabled employees of NTPC Ltd.

[Prashant Ranjan Verma]

Please try to copy paste the link text. Sometimes it gets broken into two
lines in emails.
Copyig it again here.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2875242/CCPD%20Judgement%20in%20the%20NTPC%20Conveya
nce%20Scheme%20case.pdf 

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Dinesh
Sent: 15 March 2012 20:48
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for disabled employees of NTPC Ltd.

good news. But that dropbox link isn't working.
- Original Message - 
From: Himanshu Sahu sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for disabled employees of NTPC Ltd.


 Great judgement!
 I remember that few months back on the AI list itself, the same issue
 was discussed vehemently. The issue was raised by one of the VI
 employees of NTPC.

 I had strongly recommended for the legal remedy in the matter since it
 is a blatant abuse of the spirit of equal opportunity and justice.

 However, the suggestion of legal remedy was opposed by another NTPC
 employee and one of the honoured list member saying that dragging
 family (organisation) in the court being a family member oneself is
 not desirable.

 Nevertheless, the judgement will be proved a milestone in the endless
 struggle of disabled for getting equal opportunity, justice,
 recognition and their due respect in the society.

 Thanks to disability for acting posibively for disability!


 On 3/15/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:


 Hi all,

 In a case that we filed sometime earlier CCPD has delivered a great
 judgement. It will benefit more than 450 persons with disabilities 
 working
 at NTPC who were facing discrimination and exclusion. This case may be 
 cited
 by employees of other organizations who are facing similar issues.

 The judgement text is copied below. You can get its signed copy from this
 link.


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2875242/CCPD%20Judgement%20in%20the%20NTPC%20Conveya
 nce%20Scheme%20case.pdf

 OFFICE OF THE CHIEF COMMISSIONER FOR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES

 Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment, Govt, of India



 Case No. 157/1023/11-12  Dated : 27.02.2012

 In the matter of:

 Smt. Nirupama J. and Others
 Complainants

 B-17, NTPC Ltd/FGPS

 FGPS Township, Mujedi P.O.

 Neemka, Faridabad-121 004



 Versus

 NTPC Limited  
 Respondent

 Through: Executive Director (HR)

 NTPC Bhawan, SCOPE Complex

 7, Institutional Area, Lodhi Road,

 New Road, New Delhi -110003



 Date of hearing : 27.02.2012

 Present:

 (i)   Shri. T.K. Sit, Manager (HR), NTPC. New Delhi.

 (ii)  Shri. Chandramauli S.J., Sr. Manager (HR), NTPC, New Delhi.

 (iii)  Ms. Nirupama J., A.O. (Finance Deptt.), NTPC, Faridabad.

 (iv)Ms. Veena Mehta Verma, Officer (HR), NTPC, Badarpur, Delhi.

 (v)Shri. Prashant Ranjan Verma.



 ORDER

 The complainants, in this case filed a complaint dated 06.09.2011 before 
 the
 Chief Commissioner for Persons with Disabilities under the Persons with
 Disabilities (Equal Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full
 Participation) Act, 1995 referred to as 'Act' regarding non-reimbursement

 of
 conveyance expenses to employees with disabilities in NTPC.



 2. Except Shri Prashant Verma, all the three complainants are stated to 
 be
 the employees of NTPC. They have submitted that they are not being
 reimbursed the conveyance expenses.

 As per them, the scheme of expenditure for local travel for official
 purposes provides for reimbursement of the petrol expenses only if the
 employee has a vehicle registered in his/her name and he/she holds a 
 valid
 driving license. As many person with disabilities neither can drive nor 
 can
 get a valid driving license even though they may be owning
 two-wheelers/cars, they are not being reimbursed the conveyance expenses.

 3. The matter was taken up with NTPC Limited vide letter dated 04.10,2011

 4. The respondent vide their letter no.01:HR-Policy:7(16.1) dated 
 17.11.2011
 submitted that the current pay structure and allowances of employees in 
 NTPC
 is based on the DPE guidelines dated 26.11.2008 regarding revision of 
 scales
 of pay w.e.f. 01.01. 2007 for Central Public Sector Enterprises. These 
 DPE
 guidelines do not provide for special payment of transport allowance to
 persons with disabilities.

 5. The complainants in their rejoinder submitted that the transport
 allowance comes under 47% perquisites is applicable to all NTPC 
 employees.
 The existing scheme is applicable to all NTPC executives and workmen. 
 They
 are requesting for waiving the condition of having a self valid driving
 license. As per them a scheme which is meant for all employees should 
 not
 have eligibility conditions which exclude 450 odd employees with
 disabilities. This has resulted in substantial financial loss and
 deprivation

Re: [AI] Good news for disabled employees of NTPC Ltd.

[mukesh jain]

Hello sir,
It’s certainly a great move for all of us and long awaited relief. I
do take the opportunity to express my sincere thanks for undertaking
this noble cause witch will benefit for lot many people.

I would also like to know about one issue faced by me and several
others like me working in my project.

As you may be aware that we have been provided the staff quarters as
per the entitlements of each employee as per policy framed by ntpc for
allotment of quarters.

As per the grade, we have been allotted the quarter A type which is
equivalent to 1 BHK. Keeping in mind the visual impairment and the
difficulties of moving around in such a small area available in the
quarter and lack of space for accommodation to stay with our dependent
parents, various employees of ntpc from their projects had approached
their management to kindly consider the request of allotting the b
type quarter equivalent to 2BHK to them as special consideration.
Along with the said request, they had also asked the management to
provide the intercom facility in the quarter as provided to other
senior employees so as to be benefited in contacting the various
services like complaint for civil work, hospital emergencies,
electricity in case we are not able to accompany the escorts to reach
them personally.

As a matter of gesture, the management of ntpc at various projects
accepted the said demand and allotted the b type quarter to all the
physically challenged employees of ntpc at their projects.

In this regard, since I myself is facing the aforesaid difficulties as
faced by the other colleagues as mentioned, I have approached the
management of my project to which they have replied that since your
entitlement does not permit to allow you B type quarter, we may not be
able to consider your request at this moment of time.

In view of the above mentioned circumstances, can I insist the
management of my project to treat my case similarly as delt in other
projects in providing the quarter as special consideration?
2 are there any possibilities to do something just like the present
case follow up to modify the quarter allotment rules which can be made
applicable to physically challenged employees of ntpc?
3 can this case be treated as discrimination as various projects had
already considered the said difficulties put forth by physically
challenged employees to allot them B type quarter?
4 what any other steps I should take to request for the same?

There are more than half of the quarters are vacant in my project. I
am stating this reason because few of the projects were not able to
accept the said request made by the physically challenged employees as
no sufficient quarters are available to allot the same.

I am facing great difficulties in accommodating my educational
materials such as, Braille books of my education, no enough space to
move freely and considering the number of persons including myself and
my three dependents staying in such a small place.

Your reply in this regard would be highly obliged.
Thanking you,
mukesh.


On 3/15/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Please try to copy paste the link text. Sometimes it gets broken into two
 lines in emails.
 Copyig it again here.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2875242/CCPD%20Judgement%20in%20the%20NTPC%20Conveya
 nce%20Scheme%20case.pdf

 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Dinesh
 Sent: 15 March 2012 20:48
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for disabled employees of NTPC Ltd.

 good news. But that dropbox link isn't working.
 - Original Message -
 From: Himanshu Sahu sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 8:38 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for disabled employees of NTPC Ltd.


 Great judgement!
 I remember that few months back on the AI list itself, the same issue
 was discussed vehemently. The issue was raised by one of the VI
 employees of NTPC.

 I had strongly recommended for the legal remedy in the matter since it
 is a blatant abuse of the spirit of equal opportunity and justice.

 However, the suggestion of legal remedy was opposed by another NTPC
 employee and one of the honoured list member saying that dragging
 family (organisation) in the court being a family member oneself is
 not desirable.

 Nevertheless, the judgement will be proved a milestone in the endless
 struggle of disabled for getting equal opportunity, justice,
 recognition and their due respect in the society.

 Thanks to disability for acting posibively for disability!


 On 3/15/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com wrote:


 Hi all,

 In a case that we filed sometime earlier CCPD has delivered a great
 judgement. It will benefit more than 450 persons with disabilities
 working
 at NTPC who were facing discrimination and exclusion. This case may be
 cited
 by employees of other