Re: [AI] Information about NAVI lens

[Aishwarya Pillai]

@Sourabh, I would love to discuss the NAVI lens with you over a call. Let
me find a suitable time to reach out.

@Aparna, thank you so much for your detailed feedback. I am conducting
general research on technology that makes public spaces accessible, as we
have our own product, Spacefelt, designed to enhance accessibility in
public spaces using QR codes. Based on your input, Spacefelt seems to offer
similar features but at a more affordable price.  We are currently
collaborating with organizations and art galleries to make their spaces
accessible. I just wanted to understand the general feedback. Thanks much
for responding.

With regards,
Aishwarya

On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 11:25 AM Aparna Sachdev  wrote:

> Hi Aishwarya,
> I’ve played with NaviLens a bit last year. What exactly would you like to
> know? They have printable, customisable codes that (as I’ve been told) look
> a little like QR codes. They come in different sizes, the smaller ones
> (1x1cm) are detectable at close range, they might work well to label
> files/documents/what-have-you, and the biggest ones, roughly half the size
> of an A4 sheet, are detectable as far as 18 meters away (I tried that one,
> it can be used to label indoor landmarks). The printable codes you get on
> their app/website are personal, and can be shared between 5-6 people, if I
> remember right. They’ve also got this mode that I can’t name off the top of
> my head, but that helps you home in on a code of your choice, if its in
> camera view.
> This mode doesn’t work uniformly on all devices, there’s some devices that
> don’t support it(again, I don’t recall precisely why).
>
> I’d say its a decent app to facilitate indoor navigation, you could
> potentially use their codes like signposts, with the caveat that you’d have
> to buy their public codes (they’re kind of expensive, that’s the catch
> lol). They customise them to fit your use case and context, in terms of
> naming your labels the way you want them, etc. What I like about them is
> that they’re great in terms of not requiring all that much precision in
> camera positioning, and you have a live sense of how far away your NaviLens
> code is (when a code is detected, the fact that there’s a code in view is
> announced, along with its distance relative to your device). That’s all I
> know. I hope this helps. Also, I’m curious - is it under consideration for
> public use somewhere? Because that would be really great.
> Warmly,
> Aparna
>
>
>
>
> On 23 Jul 2024, at 10:21 AM, Sourabh Yadav 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> *on the call with your team.
>
> On Tue, 23 Jul 2024, 10:19 Sourabh Yadav, 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi  Aishwarya,
>> I can help you to know the computer vision tech behind this. Something
>> similar we discussed on the website has call with your team.
>>
>> Sourabh
>>
>> On Tue, 23 Jul 2024, 09:42 Aishwarya Pillai, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Is there anyone here who has used NAVI Lens? If so I wanted to know how
>>> it works for making physical spaces accessible and also if you could please
>>> share your feedback.
>>>
>>> With regards,
>>> Aishwarya
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Re: [AI] Signature problame.

[manohar vaswani]

He can use a signature guide Dr. Manohar VaswaniOn Jul 23, 2024, at 12:49 PM, kuldeep bhartiya  wrote:hello access india friends,If a blind employee is having difficulty with signing, what should he do if his signature consistently varies? A friend of mine was recently promotedto the position of Principal. The documents he signs are being returned by the treasury or the bank due to signature mismatches. What is the solution tothis problem?



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RE: [AI] UPSC-IAS,

[Kanchan Pamnani]

Thanks a  lot Pavan for your offer. Alas I cannot take it up because I  am not 
preparing for the UPSC. My batchmates would be retiring at this time.

I was looking for a person for a different reason-you will understand  or I 
will explain it to you over a personal call.

If you are not from Bombay then it may become difficult. 

Thanks anyways

Kanchan 

 

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Sent: 23 July 2024 16:51
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Subject: Re: [AI] UPSC-IAS,

 

Ma'am,
I hope this email finds you well.
I have attempted the UPSC exams twice and, although I am now following a career 
in advocacy, I understand the challenges and complexities involved in the 
preparation process. While I am not based in Mumbai, I am more than willing to 
offer my support and assistance in any way possible.
Despite having the determination and courage, I acknowledge that I may not be 
the best in every situation. However, I am eager to help and contribute to your 
efforts in navigating the UPSC recruitment process.

note: If you have any tasks or projects within the UPSC recruitment process 
that could benefit from my legal expertise, research abilities, or simply a 
fresh perspective from a fellow UPSC aspirant, I would be thrilled to discuss 
further.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Please feel free to contact me if you think my experience and background could 
be of any help.
Best regards,
Pavan Kallem

Ph: 9908541321

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Advocate and Legal Adviser

 

On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 8:27 PM Kanchan Pamnani mailto:kanchanpamn...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Looking for a Person with Disability who has either passed the UPSC exams or is 
still attempting. 

The person must have guts and must trust me.

Preferably Mumbai. 

If not Mumbai then anywhere in the country. 

Kanchan Pamnani 

Advocate and Solicitor  

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Re: [AI] UPSC-IAS,

[pavan kallem]

Ma'am,
I hope this email finds you well.
I have attempted the UPSC exams twice and, although I am now following a
career in advocacy, I understand the challenges and complexities involved
in the preparation process. While I am not based in Mumbai, I am more than
willing to offer my support and assistance in any way possible.
Despite having the determination and courage, I acknowledge that I may not
be the best in every situation. However, I am eager to help and contribute
to your efforts in navigating the UPSC recruitment process.
note: If you have any tasks or projects within the UPSC recruitment process
that could benefit from my legal expertise, research abilities, or simply a
fresh perspective from a fellow UPSC aspirant, I would be thrilled to
discuss further.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Please feel free to contact me if you think my experience and background
could be of any help.
Best regards,
Pavan Kallem
Ph: 9908541321
EM: pavankrishna...@gmail.com
Advocate and Legal Adviser

On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 8:27 PM Kanchan Pamnani 
wrote:

> Looking for a Person with Disability who has either passed the UPSC exams
> or is still attempting.
>
> The person must have guts and must trust me.
>
> Preferably Mumbai.
>
> If not Mumbai then anywhere in the country.
>
> Kanchan Pamnani
>
> Advocate and Solicitor
>
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RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

[Preeti Monga]

Mangos are fruit! So they are OK to eat for you too! Provided they are eaten in 
moderation!

And certain  stuff has to be slurped around, but that can be done in a 
dignified  and neat manner!

 

 

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Behalf Of Yamuna Jivana Dasa
Sent: 22 July 2024 17:33
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating 
independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

 

Dear Preeti-Ji,

Your points are well taken. If someone prefers to eat with cutlery that’s 
certainly their welcome choice too, provided the implication is not that the 
alternative of eating by hand is less classy or shameful, as our modern-day 
culture will have us believe.

I’m sure it goes without saying that the behaviours such as licking the bowl, 
making constant slurping sounds and eating noisily are unrefined and improper 
human behaviors over-all.

When I eat mangos however particularly when they are nice and juicy, you’re 
going to hear the odd slight slurping sounds from me, but of course in fair 
moderation.

 

Now you have the right to scold me for eating mangos since you know I’m 
diabetic! J

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

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[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2024 11:02 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating 
independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

 

Certainly I agree with you! However, eating with hand / fingers can be refined 
and if eaten neately without soiling your full hand, then it is great! When in 
Germany, I used to get people around the table to cut up my food, that is if it 
so required, and then eat with a fork  or my fingers, which ever was more 
comfortable! And, there were many Germans who followed me and thanked me to 
have shown them the wonderful way  to eat comfortably and they reported that 
they enjoyed their food that way much more! The idea is to know certain things 
about eating neately and remembering not to put the knife into your mouth! That 
is all it requires.

Also eating with your mouth over full, eating with your mouth open, eating with 
funny sounds of slurping and other sounds, or picking up the plate and licking 
from it or putting your tongue into the bowl  and licking it in public  may not 
be not welcomed by others on the table, may it be family or business partners 
or colleague’s!

Just a few thoughts and sharings.

Warmly

Preeti

 

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Sent: 19 July 2024 22:29
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating 
independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

 

People,

This is just my opinion and how I live my life. You don’t have to agree.

 

As much as I cannot avoid being blind, I prefer living my life being 
comfortable with what works for me, and this includes dining.

 

Mostly I use my fingers to eat. Whatever context I find myself in, I am even 
ready to announce: I eat best with my fingers, and it’s an art. I pick up rice 
with my finger-tips without dropping, which is something many who are used to 
knife and fork cannot do. (At this point I might chuckle slightly as I 
gracefully remove the knife or fork or even spoon from my plate.) So thanks for 
the invitation to dine with the tea

Re: [AI] Information about NAVI lens

[Aparna Sachdev]

Hi Aishwarya,I’ve played with NaviLens a bit last year. What exactly would you like to know? They have printable, customisable codes that (as I’ve been told) look a little like QR codes. They come in different sizes, the smaller ones (1x1cm) are detectable at close range, they might work well to label files/documents/what-have-you, and the biggest ones, roughly half the size of an A4 sheet, are detectable as far as 18 meters away (I tried that one, it can be used to label indoor landmarks). The printable codes you get on their app/website are personal, and can be shared between 5-6 people, if I remember right. They’ve also got this mode that I can’t name off the top of my head, but that helps you home in on a code of your choice, if its in camera view. This mode doesn’t work uniformly on all devices, there’s some devices that don’t support it(again, I don’t recall precisely why). I’d say its a decent app to facilitate indoor navigation, you could potentially use their codes like signposts, with the caveat that you’d have to buy their public codes (they’re kind of expensive, that’s the catch lol). They customise them to fit your use case and context, in terms of naming your labels the way you want them, etc. What I like about them is that they’re great in terms of not requiring all that much precision in camera positioning, and you have a live sense of how far away your NaviLens code is (when a code is detected, the fact that there’s a code in view is announced, along with its distance relative to your device). That’s all I know. I hope this helps. Also, I’m curious - is it under consideration for public use somewhere? Because that would be really great. Warmly,Aparna  On 23 Jul 2024, at 10:21 AM, Sourabh Yadav  wrote:*on the call with your team.
On Tue, 23 Jul 2024, 10:19 Sourabh Yadav,  wrote:Hi  Aishwarya,
I can help you to know the computer vision tech behind this. Something similar we discussed on the website has call with your team.
Sourabh
On Tue, 23 Jul 2024, 09:42 Aishwarya Pillai,  wrote:Hi All,Is there anyone here who has used NAVI Lens? If so I wanted to know how it works for making physical spaces accessible and also if you could please share your feedback.With regards,Aishwarya 



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Re: [AI] Information about NAVI lens

[Sourabh Yadav]

*on the call with your team.

On Tue, 23 Jul 2024, 10:19 Sourabh Yadav, 
wrote:

> Hi  Aishwarya,
> I can help you to know the computer vision tech behind this. Something
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>
> Sourabh
>
> On Tue, 23 Jul 2024, 09:42 Aishwarya Pillai, 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Is there anyone here who has used NAVI Lens? If so I wanted to know how
>> it works for making physical spaces accessible and also if you could please
>> share your feedback.
>>
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Re: [AI] Information about NAVI lens

[Sourabh Yadav]

Hi  Aishwarya,
I can help you to know the computer vision tech behind this. Something
similar we discussed on the website has call with your team.

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Re: [AI] Income tax portel

[Sameer]

I was able to copy & paste the details from my blindness certificate 
into form 10IA. Maybe there was some setting activated on your computer 
which prevented the paste function from operating.



Regards
Sameer Latey

On 22-07-2024 01:37 pm, Amiyo Biswas wrote:
Logically it should not be so for persons with permanent disability. 
Let us see what comes up next year.
I found one problem while filing 10ia. The time limit for entries was 
too short. I had to memorise the numbers for entry since the paste 
option was not available. I faced time out errors several times. If it 
is a common problem we should report it.


With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329

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*To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
*Cc:* Sohan Lal <mailto:sohan5...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Monday, July 22, 2024 11:43 AM
    *Subject:* Re: [AI] Income tax portel

I have filed 10IA and ITR return independently without any problem
using NVDA but my question is should every year we have to file
10IA form?

On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 1:45 AM Sameer  wrote:


Dear Friend,


Kindly follow the following steps to access form 10IA.


1. Login to the Income-tax e-filing website.

2. After logging in, go to the E-file option on the dashboard.

3. In the e-file option, choose the second one "File Income
tax forms"

4. In the File Income Tax Forms option, select the first one,
"File Form"

5. A new page will open with 3 main options. Select the second
option "People without income from business/profession"

6. A list of available forms is displayed. The first form is
form 10IA.

7. After opening the form, follow the on-screen prompts to
fill the form & upload the blindness certificate/ UDID card.

8. Verify the form 10IA using ADHAAR based OTP or Net banking
or other suitable verification option.


Regards
Sameer Latey

On 21-07-2024 03:56 pm, Sohan Lal wrote:

Please provide either form 10 IA or link to it.
Thanx and regards

On Sun, 21 Jul, 2024, 9:02 am TIKARAM MAHTO,
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Yes, form is very easy and fully accessible.

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Yes, I created a tutorial using NVDA for filling out
Form 10 I A, and I did not face any issues.

*From:*accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 *On Behalf Of *Amar Jain
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*Subject:* Re: [AI] Income tax portel

The portal experience is dependent upon whether you
are NVDA user vs other screen reader users. For
instance Form 10IA is terrible if used with Jaws.

On 19/07/2024 15:30, Kanchan Pamnani wrote:

1.Are we able to file our own returns?

2.Is Form 10IA accessable

3.Do we have to fill the nature of
disability-Blind etc or just permanent and temporary

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Re: [AI] Introducing Meta AI Latest Feature of WhatsApp

[muruganandan.k]

A simple way out that I use is to press the escape key, then press shift+G.
It will take you to the "rocket" graphic, below which is the response to
your query. Above the "rocket" is the  listen button.
HTH.

On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 10:24 AM  wrote:

> How does Gemini.google.com work with NVDA? I entered my question and
> pressed enter. I heard NVDA say gemini is writing and gemini has replied.
> After the focus goes to the gemini prompt edit box. The tab or the arrow
> keys do not get any response. Any way out?
>
>
>
> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in  *On
> Behalf Of *Amiyo Biswas
> *Sent:* 19 July 2024 08:13
> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Introducing Meta AI Latest Feature of WhatsApp
>
>
>
> Google gemini is quite accessible and pretty fast. Simply type
> gemini.google.com on the address bar and hit enter.
>
>
>
> The gemini page comes up with focus on the prompt edit field. Type your
> question or instruction and press enter. You may follow the same type of
> prompt as in chat gpt.
>
>
>
> Gemini will say "Gemini is typing" to assure you that it is working on
> your prompt.
>
>
>
> Soon gemini will say, "Gemini has replied."
>
>
>
> Press insert+z to come back to virtual cursor and press h to access the
> heading 1 where you will find your prompt and the reply below it. There is
> a listen button which you can activate to listen to the reply. It works in
> many Indian languages also.
>
>
>
> If you have any follow up question, press the letter e to go to the prompt
> field and type in your prompt.
>
>
>
> For a new question I prefer using the new chat option.
>
>
>
>
> With best regards,
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> Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329
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>
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>
>
> Please also share tips on google gemini.
>
>
>
> On 7/18/2024 10:11 PM, george.abrah...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Yes. It is very handy.
>
> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
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> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Introducing Meta AI Latest Feature of WhatsApp
>
>
>
>
>
> Is the said feature live on iPhone also? Thanks & Regards
> Harshit Lohia
>
> On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 3:53 PM, NAB Delhi Helpline 
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RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Dear Preeti-Ji,

Your points are well taken. If someone prefers to eat with cutlery that’s 
certainly their welcome choice too, provided the implication is not that the 
alternative of eating by hand is less classy or shameful, as our modern-day 
culture will have us believe.

I’m sure it goes without saying that the behaviours such as licking the bowl, 
making constant slurping sounds and eating noisily are unrefined and improper 
human behaviors over-all.

When I eat mangos however particularly when they are nice and juicy, you’re 
going to hear the odd slight slurping sounds from me, but of course in fair 
moderation.

 

Now you have the right to scold me for eating mangos since you know I’m 
diabetic! J

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Preeti Monga
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2024 11:02 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating 
independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

 

Certainly I agree with you! However, eating with hand / fingers can be refined 
and if eaten neately without soiling your full hand, then it is great! When in 
Germany, I used to get people around the table to cut up my food, that is if it 
so required, and then eat with a fork  or my fingers, which ever was more 
comfortable! And, there were many Germans who followed me and thanked me to 
have shown them the wonderful way  to eat comfortably and they reported that 
they enjoyed their food that way much more! The idea is to know certain things 
about eating neately and remembering not to put the knife into your mouth! That 
is all it requires.

Also eating with your mouth over full, eating with your mouth open, eating with 
funny sounds of slurping and other sounds, or picking up the plate and licking 
from it or putting your tongue into the bowl  and licking it in public  may not 
be not welcomed by others on the table, may it be family or business partners 
or colleague’s!

Just a few thoughts and sharings.

Warmly

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[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Yamuna Jivana Dasa
Sent: 19 July 2024 22:29
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating 
independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

 

People,

This is just my opinion and how I live my life. You don’t have to agree.

 

As much as I cannot avoid being blind, I prefer living my life being 
comfortable with what works for me, and this includes dining.

 

Mostly I use my fingers to eat. Whatever context I find myself in, I am even 
ready to announce: I eat best with my fingers, and it’s an art. I pick up rice 
with my finger-tips without dropping, which is something many who are used to 
knife and fork cannot do. (At this point I might chuckle slightly as I 
gracefully remove the knife or fork or even spoon from my plate.) So thanks for 
the invitation to dine with the team! Then I dig into that meal, with dignity 
and pride to eat with my fingers, smiling with confidence all the way, and not 
hesitating to contribute to the light-hearted dinner table discussions or 
perhaps business meetings that might occur.

 

To those who think I am below their so-called dignity, you like me, you don’t 
like me, because may be I look strange eating differently, then hey let that be 
your problem, but I’ll be cheerful all the way through. High-minded people will 
appreciate me for who I am. I’ve learnt through my life to be confident about 
who I am, and in the beginning people might resist me, gradually tolerate me, 
and eventually even love me for who I am. At least, those will be the people 
who matter to me.

 

Let me share my story at the bank where I worked.

I used to work for First National Bank in South Africa. I never hid my identity 
as a Hare Krishna devotee, nor was I shy about my blindness. These were both 
abnormalities in the predominantly African country where I lived.

Gradually people would notice me walking the corrordoors during my lunch 
breaks, or after work while waiting for my transport, softly mouthing the Hare 
Krishna Mahamantra. Eventually it became normal f

RE: Byriani! [was RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick]

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

BHAWANI wrote:

> What is wrong eating with clean hand? >

 

Nothing is wrong with it! The british came here and told us that we are 
barbarians if we eat with hand, and that everything about our culture, religion 
and social conventions are primitive, superstitious, unscientific and backward. 
They are wrong on every one of those areas. And the worst thing is that we 
believed them. Now, you have to even ask the question “What is wrong with it”, 
as if you’re finally realizing that nothing is wrong with it and nothing was 
wrong with it before after all, even though your ancestors over the last few 
hundred years believed the British and for so long became ashamed of our rich 
Vedic values.

 

Yes, there are a good few things from our rich Vedic history that became 
corrupt and polluted into modern-day Hindu culture, but that does not make the 
roots useless. We can fix and clean up the pollutants from our deviations and 
then there’s nothing unscientific or backwards or primitive or mythological 
about our Vedic systems. Two examples of these can be sited here: First is how 
the Varnasrama system became polluted into today’s cast system. Second is how 
the Sati rite of women to choose to die with their husbands dead body in the 
fire became polluted into forced murders of women unwilling to undergo the act 
which eventually became a forced ritual, thus polluting the Vedic rite.

 

I am prepared to logically challenge anyone who dares to declare that our Vedic 
sivilization is to be ashamed of, and I’m prepared to put my head on the block 
for it as scientific in every regard.

 

And to bring this back on topic, blind people, particularly Indian blind 
people, should never think they have reason to be ashamed of eating with their 
hands. It is after all a Vedic tradition, supported by ayurvedic health-proven 
scientifically verifiable health benefits.

If there is anyone here who can’t help feeling ashamed of it, then I will 
happily council you off-list. Write me a private message or call me to discuss.

Of course there are things we can and should eat with spoon simply because they 
are not solid enough such as ice creams and trifles, but that goes without 
saying, and doesn’t change anything. I even use the tip of the finger from the 
other hand to guide such things onto the spoon because I am blind. So what! 
Should we be ashamed for being blind too! Is it not bad enough that we were 
taught to be ashamed of our culture and religion already! Give me a break, good 
people! The only thing I am ashamed of is not being able to speak an Indian 
language, but that too was forced upon me since childhood anyway!

 

Anyway let me not get started here because if I do I won’t stop, and y’all know 
by now how passionate I am on this point. So I’ll stop here….

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2024 6:12 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: Byriani! [was RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, 
specifically eating independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick]

 

What is wrong eating with clean hand?

 

On 7/21/2024 2:48 PM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa wrote:

Saurav wrote:

> And for eating with hand, there is a trend to eat biryani with hand. >

 

Now you really got me started! Byriani, there’s just no way I’ll eat that with 
spoon! Not even at gunpoint! J Seriously, South African Indians have mastered 
the art of making byriani like no where else I have seen. And those from Durban 
are still the best at making it. My wife is from Guyana in South America and no 
matter how I  encourage her to make it, she does not want to take on the 
challenge to perfect the art. Apparently the secret lies in spicing the night 
before and allowing the veggies to soak up the spicing over-night, possibly in 
a cooler. Alternatively my mother cooks the rice and veggies together with the 
required spicing, then she tosses the whole thing in the oven on very low heat 
for 2 hours to fully cook very slowly. The rice and veggies are fully dry yet 
fluffy and not sticky at all so that nothing clumps together. And that flavour! 
Man! Even though my mother is now aging she does a fantastic byriani.

And again I’ll only eat that with fingers. On my final trip from South Africa 
to India in November 2022, the guy carrying my road food in my hand luggage 
actually stole it and must have enjoyed it like nothing in his life ever 
before. He’s going to hell for stealing that byriani! Aish! Now I’m going mad 
here just thinking about it!

 

Over and out! J

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

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[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Saurav Hegde
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2024 7:24 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: Re: [AI] Learning effe

RE: [AI] Income tax portel

[Kanchan Pamnani]

It really depends upon what the Finance Minister does with the old and new 
regimes. 

Lets wait till tomorrow. 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Amiyo Biswas
Sent: 22 July 2024 13:38
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Income tax portel

 

Logically it should not be so for persons with permanent disability. Let us see 
what comes up next year.

 

I found one problem while filing 10ia. The time limit for entries was too 
short. I had to memorise the numbers for entry since the paste option was not 
available. I faced time out errors several times. If it is a common problem we 
should report it.


With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329

 

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From: vivek doddamani <mailto:vivekka...@gmail.com>  

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  

Cc: Sohan Lal <mailto:sohan5...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Monday, July 22, 2024 11:43 AM

Subject: Re: [AI] Income tax portel

 

I have filed 10IA and ITR return independently without any problem using NVDA 
but my question is should every year we have to file 10IA form?

 

On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 1:45 AM Sameer mailto:sameer.la...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Dear Friend,

 

Kindly follow the following steps to access form 10IA.

 

1. Login to the Income-tax e-filing website.

2. After logging in, go to the E-file option on the dashboard.

3. In the e-file option, choose the second one "File Income tax forms"

4. In the File Income Tax Forms option, select the first one, "File Form"

5. A new page will open with 3 main options. Select the second option "People 
without income from business/profession"

6. A list of available forms is displayed. The first form is form 10IA.

7. After opening the form, follow the on-screen prompts to fill the form & 
upload the blindness certificate/ UDID card.

8. Verify the form 10IA using ADHAAR based OTP or Net banking or other suitable 
verification option.

 

Regards
Sameer Latey

On 21-07-2024 03:56 pm, Sohan Lal wrote:

Please provide either form 10 IA or link to it. 

Thanx and regards

 

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Yes, I created a tutorial using NVDA for filling out Form 10 I A, and I did not 
face any issues.

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > On 
Behalf Of Amar Jain
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 3:42 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Cc: Kanchan Pamnani mailto:kanchanpamn...@gmail.com> 
>
Subject: Re: [AI] Income tax portel

 

The portal experience is dependent upon whether you are NVDA user vs other 
screen reader users. For instance Form 10IA is terrible if used with Jaws.

 

On 19/07/2024 15:30, Kanchan Pamnani wrote:

1.   Are we able to file our own returns?

2.   Is Form 10IA accessable

3.   Do we have to fill the nature of disability-Blind etc or just 
permanent and temporary

 

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Re: [AI] Contact details of neha, Arora, planet able

[Yusuf Balapariya]

Hello
Can I know what is this about planet abled
Regard Yousuf

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Re: [AI] Income tax portel

[vivek doddamani]

I have filed 10IA and ITR return independently without any problem using
NVDA but my question is should every year we have to file 10IA form?

On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 1:45 AM Sameer  wrote:

>
> Dear Friend,
>
>
> Kindly follow the following steps to access form 10IA.
>
>
> 1. Login to the Income-tax e-filing website.
>
> 2. After logging in, go to the E-file option on the dashboard.
>
> 3. In the e-file option, choose the second one "File Income tax forms"
>
> 4. In the File Income Tax Forms option, select the first one, "File Form"
>
> 5. A new page will open with 3 main options. Select the second option
> "People without income from business/profession"
>
> 6. A list of available forms is displayed. The first form is form 10IA.
>
> 7. After opening the form, follow the on-screen prompts to fill the form &
> upload the blindness certificate/ UDID card.
>
> 8. Verify the form 10IA using ADHAAR based OTP or Net banking or other
> suitable verification option.
>
>
> Regards
> Sameer Latey
>
> On 21-07-2024 03:56 pm, Sohan Lal wrote:
>
> Please provide either form 10 IA or link to it.
> Thanx and regards
>
> On Sun, 21 Jul, 2024, 9:02 am TIKARAM MAHTO,  wrote:
>
>> Yes, form is very easy and fully accessible.
>>
>> ***
>>  Regards,
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>>> did not face any issues.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in  *On
>>> Behalf Of *Amar Jain
>>> *Sent:* Friday, July 19, 2024 3:42 PM
>>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> *Cc:* Kanchan Pamnani 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Income tax portel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The portal experience is dependent upon whether you are NVDA user vs
>>> other screen reader users. For instance Form 10IA is terrible if used with
>>> Jaws.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19/07/2024 15:30, Kanchan Pamnani wrote:
>>>
>>> 1.   Are we able to file our own returns?
>>>
>>> 2.   Is Form 10IA accessable
>>>
>>> 3.   Do we have to fill the nature of disability-Blind etc or just
>>> permanent and temporary
>>>
>>>
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RE: Byriani! [was RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick]

[minalsinghvi]

I prefer to use a bowl for dishes like khichadi and pastries because I find it 
more comfortable to eat with a spoon this way. When I eat, I keep my left thumb 
positioned up and use the spoon close to my thumb so I can feel the food with 
my thumb. This is my method of using a spoon. If anyone has other techniques or 
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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
Of BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2024 6:12 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: Byriani! [was RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, 
specifically eating independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick]

 

What is wrong eating with clean hand?

 

On 7/21/2024 2:48 PM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa wrote:

Saurav wrote:

> And for eating with hand, there is a trend to eat biryani with hand. >

 

Now you really got me started! Byriani, there’s just no way I’ll eat that with 
spoon! Not even at gunpoint! :) Seriously, South African Indians have mastered 
the art of making byriani like no where else I have seen. And those from Durban 
are still the best at making it. My wife is from Guyana in South America and no 
matter how I  encourage her to make it, she does not want to take on the 
challenge to perfect the art. Apparently the secret lies in spicing the night 
before and allowing the veggies to soak up the spicing over-night, possibly in 
a cooler. Alternatively my mother cooks the rice and veggies together with the 
required spicing, then she tosses the whole thing in the oven on very low heat 
for 2 hours to fully cook very slowly. The rice and veggies are fully dry yet 
fluffy and not sticky at all so that nothing clumps together. And that flavour! 
Man! Even though my mother is now aging she does a fantastic byriani.

And again I’ll only eat that with fingers. On my final trip from South Africa 
to India in November 2022, the guy carrying my road food in my hand luggage 
actually stole it and must have enjoyed it like nothing in his life ever 
before. He’s going to hell for stealing that byriani! Aish! Now I’m going mad 
here just thinking about it!

 

Over and out! :)

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Saurav Hegde
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2024 7:24 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: Re: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating 
independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

 

Hi,

This is a very interesting topic that has been brought up.

I myself was going to ask about this on the group.

I personally think my table manners are okay but there are certain items I 
struggle with.

I cannot eat a pastry with a spoon especially if it is too creamy.

I will ruin the poor thing,  lol!

It becomes a kind of kichadi, my mom has tried to teach me how to break its 
pieces while maintaining its shape but my nervous system hasn't got it yet.

So then, if at home at-least I just chuck the spoon and hold it in my 2 fingers 
to avoid spoiling my entire hand and start eating.

I also struggle to make small pieces with my fork if the piece like chicken's 
is not soft or well shaped.

It starts dangling which is not a good sign according to rules of 
sophistication.

But I do agree that beeing too conscious will also ruin the mood, people will 
feel that insecurity from us.

And for eating with hand, there is a trend to eat biryani with hand.

Just my opinions.

 

Best,

Saurav


Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune

 

 

On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 5:58 PM Yamuna Jivana Dasa mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Paul,

Childhood experiences like these can be hard to overcome, but it is important 
to reason what makes sense for our comfort and values. That team-leader was 
embarrassed that a member of his team did something that went against the grain 
of that society in an outside country, in which he wanted to show off his best 
conformance from the team.

People who feel the need to conform to out-dated society norms of our former 
colonizers doesn’t have to be come your problem, whether back then as a 6th 
grader or now as a grown man.

Please see his outburst to you back then as a child as his pro

Re: [AI] Introducing Meta AI Latest Feature of WhatsApp

[Inderpreet Singh]

Sir please call 92123 19672

Between 10:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.

On Mon, Jul 22, 2024, 7:34 AM Abdul Azeez Bundela 
wrote:

> Hi there! i am still unable to use Meta AI on whatsapp. can someone please
> give me proper guidance regarding this over a call if possible?
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 10:51 AM  wrote:
>
>> Hi First come out from  focus mode, press Insert + Space. Then, navigate
>> one heading up. After that, you can find the Gemini response after the
>> listen button.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in  *On
>> Behalf Of *george.abrah...@gmail.com
>> *Sent:* Friday, July 19, 2024 10:24 AM
>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> *Subject:* RE: [AI] Introducing Meta AI Latest Feature of WhatsApp
>>
>>
>>
>> How does Gemini.google.com work with NVDA? I entered my question and
>> pressed enter. I heard NVDA say gemini is writing and gemini has replied.
>> After the focus goes to the gemini prompt edit box. The tab or the arrow
>> keys do not get any response. Any way out?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in  *On
>> Behalf Of *Amiyo Biswas
>> *Sent:* 19 July 2024 08:13
>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Introducing Meta AI Latest Feature of WhatsApp
>>
>>
>>
>> Google gemini is quite accessible and pretty fast. Simply type
>> gemini.google.com on the address bar and hit enter.
>>
>>
>>
>> The gemini page comes up with focus on the prompt edit field. Type your
>> question or instruction and press enter. You may follow the same type of
>> prompt as in chat gpt.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gemini will say "Gemini is typing" to assure you that it is working on
>> your prompt.
>>
>>
>>
>> Soon gemini will say, "Gemini has replied."
>>
>>
>>
>> Press insert+z to come back to virtual cursor and press h to access the
>> heading 1 where you will find your prompt and the reply below it. There is
>> a listen button which you can activate to listen to the reply. It works in
>> many Indian languages also.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you have any follow up question, press the letter e to go to the
>> prompt field and type in your prompt.
>>
>>
>>
>> For a new question I prefer using the new chat option.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> With best regards,
>> Amiyo Biswas
>> Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>
>> *From:* BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA 
>>
>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 18, 2024 10:19 PM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Introducing Meta AI Latest Feature of WhatsApp
>>
>>
>>
>> Please also share tips on google gemini.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/18/2024 10:11 PM, george.abrah...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Yes. It is very handy.
>>
>> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
>>  *On Behalf Of *Harshit Lohia
>> *Sent:* 18 July 2024 17:31
>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> *Cc:* mryogeshtaneja 
>> ; nabhelpline
>>  
>> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Introducing Meta AI Latest Feature of WhatsApp
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Is the said feature live on iPhone also? Thanks & Regards
>> Harshit Lohia
>>
>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 3:53 PM, NAB Delhi Helpline 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Meta AI is now available directly on WhatsApp! Follow these steps to
>> start using it:
>> 1. Update WhatsApp: Ensure you have the latest version of WhatsApp
>> installed on your phone.
>> 2. Start a Conversation: Open WhatsApp and type "Meta AI" in the search
>> bar to find the chatbot, or select the conversation with “Message your
>> assistant”.
>> 3. Select Meta AI: Choose the Meta AI chatbot from the search results to
>> begin a chat.
>> 4. Interact with Meta AI: Ask questions or give commands, and the chatbot
>> will respond with helpful information or perform the requested action.
>>
>> Examples of What You Can Ask Meta AI
>>
>> - General Knowledge: "What is the capital of France?"
>> - Definitions: "What does 'ubiquitous' mean?"
>> - Calculations and Conversions: "What is 10 USD in EUR?"
>> - Text and Image Generation: "Generate a poem" or "Create an image of a
>> sunset"
>> - And Much More: Explore various queries and commands!
>>
>> --
>>
>> With regards,
>>
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Re: [AI] Introducing Meta AI Latest Feature of WhatsApp

[Abdul Azeez Bundela]

Hi there! i am still unable to use Meta AI on whatsapp. can someone please
give me proper guidance regarding this over a call if possible?

On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 10:51 AM  wrote:

> Hi First come out from  focus mode, press Insert + Space. Then, navigate
> one heading up. After that, you can find the Gemini response after the
> listen button.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in  *On
> Behalf Of *george.abrah...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Friday, July 19, 2024 10:24 AM
> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> *Subject:* RE: [AI] Introducing Meta AI Latest Feature of WhatsApp
>
>
>
> How does Gemini.google.com work with NVDA? I entered my question and
> pressed enter. I heard NVDA say gemini is writing and gemini has replied.
> After the focus goes to the gemini prompt edit box. The tab or the arrow
> keys do not get any response. Any way out?
>
>
>
> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in  *On
> Behalf Of *Amiyo Biswas
> *Sent:* 19 July 2024 08:13
> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Introducing Meta AI Latest Feature of WhatsApp
>
>
>
> Google gemini is quite accessible and pretty fast. Simply type
> gemini.google.com on the address bar and hit enter.
>
>
>
> The gemini page comes up with focus on the prompt edit field. Type your
> question or instruction and press enter. You may follow the same type of
> prompt as in chat gpt.
>
>
>
> Gemini will say "Gemini is typing" to assure you that it is working on
> your prompt.
>
>
>
> Soon gemini will say, "Gemini has replied."
>
>
>
> Press insert+z to come back to virtual cursor and press h to access the
> heading 1 where you will find your prompt and the reply below it. There is
> a listen button which you can activate to listen to the reply. It works in
> many Indian languages also.
>
>
>
> If you have any follow up question, press the letter e to go to the prompt
> field and type in your prompt.
>
>
>
> For a new question I prefer using the new chat option.
>
>
>
>
> With best regards,
> Amiyo Biswas
> Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329
>
> - Original Message -
>
> *From:* BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA 
>
> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 18, 2024 10:19 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Introducing Meta AI Latest Feature of WhatsApp
>
>
>
> Please also share tips on google gemini.
>
>
>
> On 7/18/2024 10:11 PM, george.abrah...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Yes. It is very handy.
>
> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
>  *On Behalf Of *Harshit Lohia
> *Sent:* 18 July 2024 17:31
> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> *Cc:* mryogeshtaneja 
> ; nabhelpline 
> 
> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Introducing Meta AI Latest Feature of WhatsApp
>
>
>
>
> Is the said feature live on iPhone also? Thanks & Regards
> Harshit Lohia
>
> On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 3:53 PM, NAB Delhi Helpline 
> wrote:
>
> Meta AI is now available directly on WhatsApp! Follow these steps to start
> using it:
> 1. Update WhatsApp: Ensure you have the latest version of WhatsApp
> installed on your phone.
> 2. Start a Conversation: Open WhatsApp and type "Meta AI" in the search
> bar to find the chatbot, or select the conversation with “Message your
> assistant”.
> 3. Select Meta AI: Choose the Meta AI chatbot from the search results to
> begin a chat.
> 4. Interact with Meta AI: Ask questions or give commands, and the chatbot
> will respond with helpful information or perform the requested action.
>
> Examples of What You Can Ask Meta AI
>
> - General Knowledge: "What is the capital of France?"
> - Definitions: "What does 'ubiquitous' mean?"
> - Calculations and Conversions: "What is 10 USD in EUR?"
> - Text and Image Generation: "Generate a poem" or "Create an image of a
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> - And Much More: Explore various queries and commands!
>
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RE: [AI] Looking for blind models

[Pranav Lal]

Hi,

 

No gender preferences as far as I know.

 

Pranav

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
Of anirudh rao
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 10:30 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Looking for blind models

 

hi.

is there any gender preference for this?

if a male is ok, I shall try too!

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Re: [AI] Income tax portel

[Sameer]

Dear Friend,


Kindly follow the following steps to access form 10IA.


1. Login to the Income-tax e-filing website.

2. After logging in, go to the E-file option on the dashboard.

3. In the e-file option, choose the second one "File Income tax forms"

4. In the File Income Tax Forms option, select the first one, "File Form"

5. A new page will open with 3 main options. Select the second option 
"People without income from business/profession"


6. A list of available forms is displayed. The first form is form 10IA.

7. After opening the form, follow the on-screen prompts to fill the form 
& upload the blindness certificate/ UDID card.


8. Verify the form 10IA using ADHAAR based OTP or Net banking or other 
suitable verification option.



Regards
Sameer Latey

On 21-07-2024 03:56 pm, Sohan Lal wrote:

Please provide either form 10 IA or link to it.
Thanx and regards

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Yes, form is very easy and fully accessible.

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A, and I did not face any issues.

*From:*accessindia@accessindia.org.in
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*Subject:* Re: [AI] Income tax portel

The portal experience is dependent upon whether you are NVDA
user vs other screen reader users. For instance Form 10IA is
terrible if used with Jaws.

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1.Are we able to file our own returns?

2.Is Form 10IA accessable

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just permanent and temporary

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Re: [AI] Income tax portel

[Sameer]

Dear Friend,


We need not get any Government or other signature on form 10IA. The form 
requires that we upload the blindness certificate or UDID card whose 
details we have entered in the form. Verification of form is through the 
same modes used for e-verification of income-tax returns (ADHAAR-based 
OTP, Net banking etc.)





Regards
Sameer Latey

On 21-07-2024 04:14 pm, Chandrashekhar Kulkarni wrote:


Dear list members,
Do we need to get governments signature on 10 ia form even when we 
have online disability certificate? Can we leave it blank?


On July 21, 2024 3:56:43 PM Sohan Lal  wrote:


Please provide either form 10 IA or link to it.
Thanx and regards

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wrote:


Yes, form is very easy and fully accessible.

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Yes, I created a tutorial using NVDA for filling out Form 10
I A, and I did not face any issues.

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*Subject:* Re: [AI] Income tax portel

The portal experience is dependent upon whether you are NVDA
user vs other screen reader users. For instance Form 10IA is
terrible if used with Jaws.

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2.Is Form 10IA accessable

3.Do we have to fill the nature of disability-Blind etc
or just permanent and temporary

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Re: Byriani! [was RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick]

[BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA]

What is wrong eating with clean hand?


On 7/21/2024 2:48 PM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa wrote:


Saurav wrote:

> And for eating with hand, there is a trend to eat biryani with hand. >

Now you really got me started! Byriani, there’s just no way I’ll eat 
that with spoon! Not even at gunpoint! JSeriously, South African 
Indians have mastered the art of making byriani like no where else I 
have seen. And those from Durban are still the best at making it. My 
wife is from Guyana in South America and no matter how I  encourage 
her to make it, she does not want to take on the challenge to perfect 
the art. Apparently the secret lies in spicing the night before and 
allowing the veggies to soak up the spicing over-night, possibly in a 
cooler. Alternatively my mother cooks the rice and veggies together 
with the required spicing, then she tosses the whole thing in the oven 
on very low heat for 2 hours to fully cook very slowly. The rice and 
veggies are fully dry yet fluffy and not sticky at all so that nothing 
clumps together. And that flavour! Man! Even though my mother is now 
aging she does a fantastic byriani.


And again I’ll only eat that with fingers. On my final trip from South 
Africa to India in November 2022, the guy carrying my road food in my 
hand luggage actually stole it and must have enjoyed it like nothing 
in his life ever before. He’s going to hell for stealing that byriani! 
Aish! Now I’m going mad here just thinking about it!


Over and out! J

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

*From:*accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] *On Behalf Of *Saurav Hegde

*Sent:* Saturday, July 20, 2024 7:24 PM
*To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
*Subject:* Re: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, 
specifically eating independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick


Hi,

This is a very interesting topic that has been brought up.

I myself was going to ask about this on the group.

I personally think my table manners are okay but there are certain 
items I struggle with.


I cannot eat a pastry with a spoon especially if it is too creamy.

I will ruin the poor thing,  lol!

It becomes a kind of kichadi, my mom has tried to teach me how to 
break its pieces while maintaining its shape but my nervous system 
hasn't got it yet.


So then, if at home at-least I just chuck the spoon and hold it in my 
2 fingers to avoid spoiling my entire hand and start eating.


I also struggle to make small pieces with my fork if the piece like 
chicken's is not soft or well shaped.


It starts dangling which is not a good sign according to rules of 
sophistication.


But I do agree that beeing too conscious will also ruin the mood, 
people will feel that insecurity from us.


And for eating with hand, there is a trend to eat biryani with hand.

Just my opinions.

Best,

Saurav

Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune

On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 5:58 PM Yamuna Jivana Dasa 
 wrote:


Paul,

Childhood experiences like these can be hard to overcome, but it
is important to reason what makes sense for our comfort and
values. That team-leader was embarrassed that a member of his team
did something that went against the grain of that society in an
outside country, in which he wanted to show off his best
conformance from the team.

People who feel the need to conform to out-dated society norms of
our former colonizers doesn’t have to be come your problem,
whether back then as a 6^th grader or now as a grown man.

Please see his outburst to you back then as a child as his
problem, not yours. His twisted agenda was being affected by you,
that’s it. You have to remind yourself every time that you will
not allow that childhood experience to determine your life now.
Live and be happy, on your terms, your way. That’s what I would
say to you. But it may take some practice and courage and
self-reassurance before you start to feel comfortable with your
own choices against that experience.

Regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

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*Sent:* Saturday, July 20, 2024 3:10 PM
*To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
*Subject:* RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s,
specifically eating independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

I remember when I was in 6^Th standard we were in Germany and on
one occasion in Berlin, I was eating with my hand and using spoon
and knife

The leader of my team suddenly shook my shoulders and shoulded a
loud that why I am eating with my hand and not using spoon and knife

did we not teach you to use spoon and knife in India?

A very bad experience…

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Re: [AI] Income tax portel

[Chandrashekhar Kulkarni]

Dear list members,
Do we need to get governments signature on 10 ia form even when we have 
online disability certificate? Can we leave it blank?



On July 21, 2024 3:56:43 PM Sohan Lal  wrote:


Please provide either form 10 IA or link to it.
Thanx and regards

On Sun, 21 Jul, 2024, 9:02 am TIKARAM MAHTO,  wrote:


Yes, form is very easy and fully accessible.

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*Subject:* Re: [AI] Income tax portel



The portal experience is dependent upon whether you are NVDA user vs
other screen reader users. For instance Form 10IA is terrible if used with
Jaws.



On 19/07/2024 15:30, Kanchan Pamnani wrote:

1.   Are we able to file our own returns?

2.   Is Form 10IA accessable

3.   Do we have to fill the nature of disability-Blind etc or just
permanent and temporary



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Re: [AI] Income tax portel

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Please provide either form 10 IA or link to it.
Thanx and regards

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>> *Sent:* Friday, July 19, 2024 3:42 PM
>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> *Cc:* Kanchan Pamnani 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Income tax portel
>>
>>
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>> Jaws.
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>> On 19/07/2024 15:30, Kanchan Pamnani wrote:
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>>
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Byriani! [was RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick]

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Saurav wrote:

> And for eating with hand, there is a trend to eat biryani with hand. >

 

Now you really got me started! Byriani, there’s just no way I’ll eat that with 
spoon! Not even at gunpoint! J Seriously, South African Indians have mastered 
the art of making byriani like no where else I have seen. And those from Durban 
are still the best at making it. My wife is from Guyana in South America and no 
matter how I  encourage her to make it, she does not want to take on the 
challenge to perfect the art. Apparently the secret lies in spicing the night 
before and allowing the veggies to soak up the spicing over-night, possibly in 
a cooler. Alternatively my mother cooks the rice and veggies together with the 
required spicing, then she tosses the whole thing in the oven on very low heat 
for 2 hours to fully cook very slowly. The rice and veggies are fully dry yet 
fluffy and not sticky at all so that nothing clumps together. And that flavour! 
Man! Even though my mother is now aging she does a fantastic byriani.

And again I’ll only eat that with fingers. On my final trip from South Africa 
to India in November 2022, the guy carrying my road food in my hand luggage 
actually stole it and must have enjoyed it like nothing in his life ever 
before. He’s going to hell for stealing that byriani! Aish! Now I’m going mad 
here just thinking about it!

 

Over and out! J

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Saurav Hegde
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2024 7:24 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating 
independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

 

Hi,

This is a very interesting topic that has been brought up.

I myself was going to ask about this on the group.

I personally think my table manners are okay but there are certain items I 
struggle with.

I cannot eat a pastry with a spoon especially if it is too creamy.

I will ruin the poor thing,  lol!

It becomes a kind of kichadi, my mom has tried to teach me how to break its 
pieces while maintaining its shape but my nervous system hasn't got it yet.

So then, if at home at-least I just chuck the spoon and hold it in my 2 fingers 
to avoid spoiling my entire hand and start eating.

I also struggle to make small pieces with my fork if the piece like chicken's 
is not soft or well shaped.

It starts dangling which is not a good sign according to rules of 
sophistication.

But I do agree that beeing too conscious will also ruin the mood, people will 
feel that insecurity from us.

And for eating with hand, there is a trend to eat biryani with hand.

Just my opinions.

 

Best,

Saurav


Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune

 

 

On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 5:58 PM Yamuna Jivana Dasa mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Paul,

Childhood experiences like these can be hard to overcome, but it is important 
to reason what makes sense for our comfort and values. That team-leader was 
embarrassed that a member of his team did something that went against the grain 
of that society in an outside country, in which he wanted to show off his best 
conformance from the team.

People who feel the need to conform to out-dated society norms of our former 
colonizers doesn’t have to be come your problem, whether back then as a 6th 
grader or now as a grown man.

Please see his outburst to you back then as a child as his problem, not yours. 
His twisted agenda was being affected by you, that’s it. You have to remind 
yourself every time that you will not allow that childhood experience to 
determine your life now. Live and be happy, on your terms, your way. That’s 
what I would say to you. But it may take some practice and courage and 
self-reassurance before you start to feel comfortable with your own choices 
against that experience.

 

Regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

From: 'PAUL MUDDHA' via AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] 
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2024 3:10 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating 
independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

 

I remember when I was in 6Th standard we were in Germany and on one occasion in 
Berlin, I was eating with my hand and using spoon and knife

The leader of my team suddenly shook my shoulders and shoulded a loud that why 
I am eating with my hand and not using spoon and knife

did we not teach you to use spoon and knife in India?

A very bad experience…

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > On 
Behalf Of minalsing...@gmail.com <mailto:minalsing...@gmail.com> 
Sent: 20 July 2024 15:05
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: RE: [AI] Learning effecti

RE: [AI] Office 365 family subscription.

[techsavi.shankar]

Out of respect for an elderly men who called me, I'm ending the conversation. 
He suggested I not continue. I'm capable of discussing matters beyond your 
expectations, including your personal life. However, doing so would compromise 
the respect I have for you.

If you still want to continue the conversation let’s keep it offline.

Find my contact information from the 1st conversation.

 

Key improvements:

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
Of pratham.shubh...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2024 9:02 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 365 family subscription.

 

No my dear friend, there is no need to provide such library, because I have 
advanced version of it.

There is one famous saying for you, “Don’t teach your __ how to raise 
babies”!

It’s my humble request, you should fill in the blank, I think you are quite 
intelligent, It seems.

Sent from my iPhone





On 20 Jul 2024, at 7:44 PM, techsavi.shan...@gmail.com 
<mailto:techsavi.shan...@gmail.com>  wrote:



Mister Pratham,

Straightly addressing to you this time.

Still if you want to improve your abusive language, I have the language 
library. I can share with you.

I clearly told you to be away from this conversation. But you are interfering   
   on and on.

Again I am advising you to stay away from this matter.

If you cannot able to time pass, then clean some one’s dash,dash dash,dash 
dash,dash dash,dash dash,dash 

 

 

 

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > On 
Behalf Of pratham.shubh...@gmail.com <mailto:pratham.shubh...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2024 3:51 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 365 family subscription.

 

And for you Mr., if I really lost control over my language, you should 
definitely started hiding somewhere.

I don’t know, what’s the matter between you and Shiva Suresh & even not 
interested to know about it as well.

Nidar Shiva Suresh is my friend, nor I am interested in becoming a part of any 
stupid controversy.

It’s just that, any matter between both of you should be settled outside of 
this mailing list, not here.

Sent from my iPhone






On 19 Jul 2024, at 8:20 PM, techsavi.shan...@gmail.com 
<mailto:techsavi.shan...@gmail.com>  wrote:



Firstly, mind your language before talking to me.

He has been attempting to attack me for a long time.

Please don’t interfere in this matter."

I clearly mentioned the typos in my previous email."

He holds a personal grudge against me and whenever he finds an opportunity, he 
attacks me."

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > On 
Behalf Of pratham.shubh...@gmail.com <mailto:pratham.shubh...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 5:52 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 365 family subscription.

 

He is not creating an issue, just querying about it.

You just mind your language!

Sent from my iPhone







On 19 Jul 2024, at 5:20 PM, Shankar C mailto:techsavi.shan...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Although you are quite knowledgeable in this matter, it was just a typo.

Why are you creating so much nonsense  on this issue?

 

On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 1:48 PM Siva Suresh mailto:sivasureshka...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Yes you are right it is having 1TB of one drive storage for each person in the 
family a subscription. I am not sure how then 100 GB of one drive storage have 
coming to picture please provide appropriate links for better understanding. 
Thanks

 

On Fri, Jul 19, 2024, 7:59 AM Vikas Kapoor mailto:dl.vi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

100GB? I'm also having a family subscription and I'm enjoying 1TB  of cloud 
space.

 

On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 18:13, Shankar C mailto:techsavi.shan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi friends,

Recently, we purchased an Office 365 Family subscription for 6 devices, and we 
have a slot available for 1 person. 

The package includes Word, Excel, Outlook, and 100 GB of OneDrive storage 

out of the box, we provide all the necessary support on all your office related 
queries on the whatsapp office 365 group.

the key will be issued on first come first serve basis

 

If anyone is interested, please contact 

shanka...@tech-accessibility.in <mailto:shanka...@tech-accessibility.in>  or

call 7795927572.

Thank you!

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Re: [AI] About E-filing.

[Vemuri Tejaswi]

Greetings,
Please   discard form 10IA and file it again as their is bug in website
some times the ierror is comming.

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> This is a quack solution suggested by Jeegar and a web site. When the
> errors occurred, I activated the links provided in the error message.
>
> On the 80d schedule, I typed in 10,000 in the expense field and saved it.
>
> On the 80dd schedule, I I mentioned my wife as a disabled dependent. I
> used her name because imaginary pan and aadhaar were not accepted.
>
> Then on the deductions page, I deleted both the schedules and the error
> messages disappeared.
>
> Hope, this helps.
>
> With best regards,
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> Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329
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> *Subject:* Re: [AI] About E-filing.
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> Dada:   Did you find any solution for this problem, if yes, let me
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> I have filled in my itr-1. However, each time I validate my return, an
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> 80DD
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> I have filled in the schedule for 80u. But nothing is showing up as error
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Re: [AI] Income tax portel

[Vemuri Tejaswi]

Greetings,
I have filed my return , it is very accessable with jaws and nvda .
My only concern is incometax department has not updated form  10IA with all
types of disability .

On Sun, 21 Jul, 2024, 09:09 TIKARAM MAHTO,  wrote:

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>> *Sent:* Friday, July 19, 2024 3:42 PM
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>> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Income tax portel
>>
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>>
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>>
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Re: [AI] Income tax portel

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Yes, form is very easy and fully accessible.

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> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in  *On
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>
>
> On 19/07/2024 15:30, Kanchan Pamnani wrote:
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Re: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

[sadaf khan]

Hi everyone,
While IM not aware of a trainer, sharing  link of a session that we had 
conducted in the past  through BGFI. Hope this helps:
https://youtu.be/DZoOVAAIr4c?si=vPpI6BamhusVAFjx

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  on behalf 
of anirudh rao 
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2024 9:57:37 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
Subject: Re: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating 
independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

I enjoy eating with my fingers and enjoy it the most.
However, I would like to learn if someone trains using spoons and knives in 
Bangalore.
there are specific food items in India which ought to be eaten with spoons and 
I make a mess whenever I try them.
the food items like paani-puri Dahi puri and masalapuri etc.
please let me know if there are any trainers in Bangalore.

On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 7:24 PM Saurav Hegde 
mailto:saurav0...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,
This is a very interesting topic that has been brought up.
I myself was going to ask about this on the group.
I personally think my table manners are okay but there are certain items I 
struggle with.
I cannot eat a pastry with a spoon especially if it is too creamy.
I will ruin the poor thing,  lol!
It becomes a kind of kichadi, my mom has tried to teach me how to break its 
pieces while maintaining its shape but my nervous system hasn't got it yet.
So then, if at home at-least I just chuck the spoon and hold it in my 2 fingers 
to avoid spoiling my entire hand and start eating.
I also struggle to make small pieces with my fork if the piece like chicken's 
is not soft or well shaped.
It starts dangling which is not a good sign according to rules of 
sophistication.
But I do agree that beeing too conscious will also ruin the mood, people will 
feel that insecurity from us.
And for eating with hand, there is a trend to eat biryani with hand.
Just my opinions.

Best,
Saurav
Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune


On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 5:58 PM Yamuna Jivana Dasa 
mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Paul,

Childhood experiences like these can be hard to overcome, but it is important 
to reason what makes sense for our comfort and values. That team-leader was 
embarrassed that a member of his team did something that went against the grain 
of that society in an outside country, in which he wanted to show off his best 
conformance from the team.

People who feel the need to conform to out-dated society norms of our former 
colonizers doesn’t have to be come your problem, whether back then as a 6th 
grader or now as a grown man.

Please see his outburst to you back then as a child as his problem, not yours. 
His twisted agenda was being affected by you, that’s it. You have to remind 
yourself every time that you will not allow that childhood experience to 
determine your life now. Live and be happy, on your terms, your way. That’s 
what I would say to you. But it may take some practice and courage and 
self-reassurance before you start to feel comfortable with your own choices 
against that experience.



Regards,



Yamuna Jivana dasa



From: 'PAUL MUDDHA' via AccessIndia 
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in<mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>]
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2024 3:10 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in<mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating 
independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick



I remember when I was in 6Th standard we were in Germany and on one occasion in 
Berlin, I was eating with my hand and using spoon and knife

The leader of my team suddenly shook my shoulders and shoulded a loud that why 
I am eating with my hand and not using spoon and knife

did we not teach you to use spoon and knife in India?

A very bad experience…





From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in<mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>> On 
Behalf Of minalsing...@gmail.com<mailto:minalsing...@gmail.com>
Sent: 20 July 2024 15:05
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in<mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating 
independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick



CAUTION: This email is originated from outside Canara Bank. Do not click any 
links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know that the 
content is safe.

Same with me most of the time—I also prefer to eat with my fingers. However, 
for certain juicy items like dal chawal or upma, I use a bowl and spoon. Even 
with idly, if I'm eating it with sambar, I ask for a soup bowl, dip the idly, 
mix it with chutney, and use a spoon. If I want to eat the idly separately, I 
eat it with my hands and hold the sambar bowl in my left hand, drinking a small 
amount with each bite. Apart from that, I mostly enjo

Re: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

[anirudh rao]

I enjoy eating with my fingers and enjoy it the most.
However, I would like to learn if someone trains using spoons and knives in
Bangalore.
there are specific food items in India which ought to be eaten with spoons
and I make a mess whenever I try them.
the food items like paani-puri Dahi puri and masalapuri etc.
please let me know if there are any trainers in Bangalore.

On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 7:24 PM Saurav Hegde  wrote:

> Hi,
> This is a very interesting topic that has been brought up.
> I myself was going to ask about this on the group.
> I personally think my table manners are okay but there are certain items I
> struggle with.
> I cannot eat a pastry with a spoon especially if it is too creamy.
> I will ruin the poor thing,  lol!
> It becomes a kind of kichadi, my mom has tried to teach me how to break
> its pieces while maintaining its shape but my nervous system hasn't got it
> yet.
> So then, if at home at-least I just chuck the spoon and hold it in my 2
> fingers to avoid spoiling my entire hand and start eating.
> I also struggle to make small pieces with my fork if the piece like
> chicken's is not soft or well shaped.
> It starts dangling which is not a good sign according to rules of
> sophistication.
> But I do agree that beeing too conscious will also ruin the mood, people
> will feel that insecurity from us.
> And for eating with hand, there is a trend to eat biryani with hand.
> Just my opinions.
>
> Best,
> Saurav
> Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 5:58 PM Yamuna Jivana Dasa 
> wrote:
>
>> Paul,
>>
>> Childhood experiences like these can be hard to overcome, but it is
>> important to reason what makes sense for our comfort and values. That
>> team-leader was embarrassed that a member of his team did something that
>> went against the grain of that society in an outside country, in which he
>> wanted to show off his best conformance from the team.
>>
>> People who feel the need to conform to out-dated society norms of our
>> former colonizers doesn’t have to be come your problem, whether back then
>> as a 6th grader or now as a grown man.
>>
>> Please see his outburst to you back then as a child as his problem, not
>> yours. His twisted agenda was being affected by you, that’s it. You have to
>> remind yourself every time that you will not allow that childhood
>> experience to determine your life now. Live and be happy, on your terms,
>> your way. That’s what I would say to you. But it may take some practice and
>> courage and self-reassurance before you start to feel comfortable with your
>> own choices against that experience.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Yamuna Jivana dasa
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* 'PAUL MUDDHA' via AccessIndia [mailto:
>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in]
>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 20, 2024 3:10 PM
>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> *Subject:* RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically
>> eating independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick
>>
>>
>>
>> I remember when I was in 6Th standard we were in Germany and on one
>> occasion in Berlin, I was eating with my hand and using spoon and knife
>>
>> The leader of my team suddenly shook my shoulders and shoulded a loud
>> that why I am eating with my hand and not using spoon and knife
>>
>> did we not teach you to use spoon and knife in India?
>>
>> A very bad experience…
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in  *On
>> Behalf Of *minalsing...@gmail.com
>> *Sent:* 20 July 2024 15:05
>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> *Subject:* RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically
>> eating independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick
>>
>>
>>
>> *CAUTION:* This email is originated from outside Canara Bank. Do not
>> click any links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and
>> know that the content is safe.
>>
>> Same with me most of the time—I also prefer to eat with my fingers.
>> However, for certain juicy items like dal chawal or upma, I use a bowl and
>> spoon. Even with idly, if I'm eating it with sambar, I ask for a soup bowl,
>> dip the idly, mix it with chutney, and use a spoon. If I want to eat the
>> idly separately, I eat it with my hands and hold the sambar bowl in my left
>> hand, drinking a small amount with each bite. Apart from that, I mostly
>> enjoy eating with my fingers. One more thing I've noticed: whenever I eat
>> with a spoon, I hold

Re: [AI] Office 365 family subscription.

[pratham . shubham7]

No my dear friend, there is no need to provide such library, because I have advanced version of it.There is one famous saying for you, “Don’t teach your __ how to raise babies”!It’s my humble request, you should fill in the blank, I think you are quite intelligent, It seems.Sent from my iPhoneOn 20 Jul 2024, at 7:44 PM, techsavi.shan...@gmail.com wrote:Mister Pratham,Straightly addressing to you this time.Still if you want to improve your abusive language, I have the language library. I can share with you.I clearly told you to be away from this conversation. But you are interfering      on and on.Again I am advising you to stay away from this matter.If you cannot able to time pass, then clean some one’s dash,dash dash,dash dash,dash dash,dash dash,dash  From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf Of pratham.shubh...@gmail.comSent: Saturday, July 20, 2024 3:51 PMTo: accessindia@accessindia.org.inSubject: Re: [AI] Office 365 family subscription. And for you Mr., if I really lost control over my language, you should definitely started hiding somewhere.I don’t know, what’s the matter between you and Shiva Suresh & even not interested to know about it as well.Nidar Shiva Suresh is my friend, nor I am interested in becoming a part of any stupid controversy.It’s just that, any matter between both of you should be settled outside of this mailing list, not here.Sent from my iPhoneOn 19 Jul 2024, at 8:20 PM, techsavi.shan...@gmail.com wrote:Firstly, mind your language before talking to me.He has been attempting to attack me for a long time.Please don’t interfere in this matter."I clearly mentioned the typos in my previous email."He holds a personal grudge against me and whenever he finds an opportunity, he attacks me."  From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> On Behalf Of pratham.shubh...@gmail.comSent: Friday, July 19, 2024 5:52 PMTo: accessindia@accessindia.org.inSubject: Re: [AI] Office 365 family subscription. He is not creating an issue, just querying about it.You just mind your language!Sent from my iPhoneOn 19 Jul 2024, at 5:20 PM, Shankar C <techsavi.shan...@gmail.com> wrote:Although you are quite knowledgeable in this matter, it was just a typo.Why are you creating so much nonsense  on this issue? On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 1:48 PM Siva Suresh <sivasureshka...@gmail.com> wrote:Yes you are right it is having 1TB of one drive storage for each person in the family a subscription. I am not sure how then 100 GB of one drive storage have coming to picture please provide appropriate links for better understanding. Thanks On Fri, Jul 19, 2024, 7:59 AM Vikas Kapoor <dl.vi...@gmail.com> wrote:100GB? I'm also having a family subscription and I'm enjoying 1TB  of cloud space. On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 18:13, Shankar C <techsavi.shan...@gmail.com> wrote:Hi friends,Recently, we purchased an Office 365 Family subscription for 6 devices, and we have a slot available for 1 person. The package includes Word, Excel, Outlook, and 100 GB of OneDrive storage out of the box, we provide all the necessary support on all your office related queries on the whatsapp office 365 group.the key will be issued on first come first serve basis If anyone is interested, please contact shanka...@tech-accessibility.in orcall 7795927572.Thank you!-- Disclaimer:1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..  Search for old postings at:http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAKwMOJ1P-PrDEnXyhX72k0nwzUy2toreM7dia-5St3gZHmOA7g%40mail.gmail.com.-- Disclaimer:1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..  Search for old postings at:http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CANJnwVHV0dp0%2B69yRNfpxHpmVZpQmojEOVpi-%2BsFX0fOFaF39Q%40mail.gmail.com.-- Disclaimer:1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the perso

Re: [AI] Office 365 family subscription.

[pratham . shubham7]

Title: Email Signature
First of all, Paul tell me when & where you have seen me using any abusive language. I was just warned him, that he is not the person here who has lots of aggression. There are many of us out there, who contains lots of aggression.But, your friend is not ready to understand, I guess!But, Ya! I completely agree with you, We all should must maintain the décorem   of this platform. But, this person failing to do so!Sent from my iPhoneOn 20 Jul 2024, at 3:58 PM, 'PAUL MUDDHA' via AccessIndia  wrote:







Nobody has patience to get hert by abusive language Mr. Pratham and you should have not used such words in the first place..
All must avoid bad language in this forum.
 
 


From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
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Sent: 20 July 2024 15:51
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 365 family subscription.


 

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And for you Mr., if I really lost control over my language, you should definitely started hiding somewhere.



I don’t know, what’s the matter between you and Shiva Suresh & even not interested to know about it as well.


Nidar Shiva Suresh is my friend, nor I am interested in becoming a part of any stupid controversy.


It’s just that, any matter between both of you should be settled outside of this mailing list, not here.

Sent from my iPhone






On 19 Jul 2024, at 8:20 PM, 
techsavi.shan...@gmail.com wrote:




 

Firstly, mind your language before talking to me.
He has been attempting to attack me for a long time.
Please don’t interfere in this matter."
I clearly mentioned the typos in my previous email."
He holds a personal grudge against me and whenever he finds an opportunity, he attacks me."
 
 


From:
accessindia@accessindia.org.in <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
On Behalf Of pratham.shubh...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 5:52 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 365 family subscription.


 
He is not creating an issue, just querying about it.

You just mind your language!

Sent from my iPhone







On 19 Jul 2024, at 5:20 PM, Shankar C <techsavi.shan...@gmail.com> wrote:






Although you are quite knowledgeable in this matter, it was just a typo.

Why are you creating so much nonsense  on this issue?


 


On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 1:48 PM Siva Suresh <sivasureshka...@gmail.com> wrote:



Yes you are right it is having 1TB of one drive storage for each person in the family a subscription. I am not sure how then 100 GB of one drive storage have coming to picture please provide appropriate links for better understanding. Thanks

 


On Fri, Jul 19, 2024, 7:59 AM Vikas Kapoor <dl.vi...@gmail.com> wrote:



100GB? I'm also having a family subscription and I'm enjoying 1TB  of cloud space.

 


On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 18:13, Shankar C <techsavi.shan...@gmail.com> wrote:



Hi friends,
Recently, we purchased an Office 365 Family subscription for 6 devices, and we have a slot available for 1 person. 
The package includes Word, Excel, Outlook, and 100 GB of OneDrive storage 
out of the box, we provide all the necessary support on all your office related queries on the whatsapp office 365 group.
the key will be issued on first come first serve basis
 
If anyone is interested, please contact 
shanka...@tech-accessibility.in or
call 7795927572.
Thank you!

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Re: [AI] Availing Health Insurance

[Kiran Baug]

Hello All,

This time, through the Care Health website, I initiated an inquiry and was
successfully able to fill out an application in coordination with an online
care agent for the Care Health Supreme plan, and the amount was paid.
After the application was raised, they asked for a blindness document,
which I provided. In a day's time, I received a counter offer for the Care
Freedom plan, which is a health insurance plan for pre-existing diseases
like cancer and HIV. Compared to the Care Health Supreme plan, the features
are very limited and have various limits, sub-limits, and co-payments.
I informed the agent who is coordinating with me that I do not have any
pre-existing diseases and asked if they consider disability a pre-existing
disease. His response was that this decision is made by the underwriter,
and he can't help with it.
If I do not accept the offer, after seven days my application will be
automatically rejected and the money will be refunded.


Best,
Kiran
+919820912933

On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 8:30 AM BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA 
wrote:

> If anyone of you having banking relations with punjab national bank, you
> can avail care health insurance with (pnb platinum 360) product. contact
> care health insurance customer care or nearest branch of PNB.
>
> however, all the banks have tie up arrangements with insurance companies.
> try with your bank, if not succeeded  let us get denial from bank and
> insurance company as well.
>
>
> On 7/12/2024 12:23 AM, Akash Kakkar wrote:
>
> Hi Sameer,
>
> Can you please share your agent's contact?
>
> I actually want to change my health insurance and want to go with Care
> health.
>
> Please let me know how can we connect.
> On 7/11/2024 10:48 AM, Sameer wrote:
>
>
> I have taken a medical insurance policy from CARE Health in 2021 without
> any problems. If anyone in Mumbai wants to take a medical insurance policy
> from CARE Health, I can share my agent's contact details offlist.
>
>
>
> Regards
> Sameer Latey
>
> On 10-07-2024 12:34 pm, Pramod Gupta wrote:
>
> Pls ask them to give in writing will help us to file a case against them
> in  SC ... there is Delhi HC and SC judgements
>
> On Wed, 10 Jul 2024, 12:17 Kiran Baug,  wrote:
>
>> Hello Folks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Recently, I have been trying to opt for health insurance for myself and
>> reached out to three health insurance providers but have not been able to
>> get any policy.
>>
>> I reached out to the following health insurers directly on their customer
>> care numbers, and after disclosing my disability, they kind of denied me
>> health insurance services:
>>
>> • HDFC told me on the call itself that a policy cannot be provided to the
>> blind and visually impaired.
>>
>> • NevaBupa told me that I can apply for it, but I might have to fight for
>> it with the higher management as the application may get rejected.
>>
>> • Care did the same on the phone.
>>
>> During my conversations, I informed them about the Supreme Court
>> judgment, but it didn't seem to make much difference to them.
>>
>> I have seen some success stories here in this mailing list about availing
>> health insurance. Could you let me know the way you took to get the policy?
>>
>> I will now try alternate ways, probably through Policybazaar, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Kiran
>>
>>
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RE: [AI] Office 365 family subscription.

[techsavi.shankar]

Mister Pratham,

Straightly addressing to you this time.

Still if you want to improve your abusive language, I have the language 
library. I can share with you.

I clearly told you to be away from this conversation. But you are interfering   
   on and on.

Again I am advising you to stay away from this matter.

If you cannot able to time pass, then clean some one’s dash,dash dash,dash 
dash,dash dash,dash dash,dash 

 

 

 

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
Of pratham.shubh...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2024 3:51 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 365 family subscription.

 

And for you Mr., if I really lost control over my language, you should 
definitely started hiding somewhere.

I don’t know, what’s the matter between you and Shiva Suresh & even not 
interested to know about it as well.

Nidar Shiva Suresh is my friend, nor I am interested in becoming a part of any 
stupid controversy.

It’s just that, any matter between both of you should be settled outside of 
this mailing list, not here.

Sent from my iPhone





On 19 Jul 2024, at 8:20 PM, techsavi.shan...@gmail.com 
<mailto:techsavi.shan...@gmail.com>  wrote:



Firstly, mind your language before talking to me.

He has been attempting to attack me for a long time.

Please don’t interfere in this matter."

I clearly mentioned the typos in my previous email."

He holds a personal grudge against me and whenever he finds an opportunity, he 
attacks me."

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > On 
Behalf Of pratham.shubh...@gmail.com <mailto:pratham.shubh...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 5:52 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 365 family subscription.

 

He is not creating an issue, just querying about it.

You just mind your language!

Sent from my iPhone






On 19 Jul 2024, at 5:20 PM, Shankar C mailto:techsavi.shan...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Although you are quite knowledgeable in this matter, it was just a typo.

Why are you creating so much nonsense  on this issue?

 

On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 1:48 PM Siva Suresh mailto:sivasureshka...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Yes you are right it is having 1TB of one drive storage for each person in the 
family a subscription. I am not sure how then 100 GB of one drive storage have 
coming to picture please provide appropriate links for better understanding. 
Thanks

 

On Fri, Jul 19, 2024, 7:59 AM Vikas Kapoor mailto:dl.vi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

100GB? I'm also having a family subscription and I'm enjoying 1TB  of cloud 
space.

 

On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 18:13, Shankar C mailto:techsavi.shan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi friends,

Recently, we purchased an Office 365 Family subscription for 6 devices, and we 
have a slot available for 1 person. 

The package includes Word, Excel, Outlook, and 100 GB of OneDrive storage 

out of the box, we provide all the necessary support on all your office related 
queries on the whatsapp office 365 group.

the key will be issued on first come first serve basis

 

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shanka...@tech-accessibility.in <mailto:shanka...@tech-accessibility.in>  or

call 7795927572.

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Re: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

[Saurav Hegde]

Hi,
This is a very interesting topic that has been brought up.
I myself was going to ask about this on the group.
I personally think my table manners are okay but there are certain items I
struggle with.
I cannot eat a pastry with a spoon especially if it is too creamy.
I will ruin the poor thing,  lol!
It becomes a kind of kichadi, my mom has tried to teach me how to break its
pieces while maintaining its shape but my nervous system hasn't got it yet.
So then, if at home at-least I just chuck the spoon and hold it in my 2
fingers to avoid spoiling my entire hand and start eating.
I also struggle to make small pieces with my fork if the piece like
chicken's is not soft or well shaped.
It starts dangling which is not a good sign according to rules of
sophistication.
But I do agree that beeing too conscious will also ruin the mood, people
will feel that insecurity from us.
And for eating with hand, there is a trend to eat biryani with hand.
Just my opinions.

Best,
Saurav
Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune


On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 5:58 PM Yamuna Jivana Dasa 
wrote:

> Paul,
>
> Childhood experiences like these can be hard to overcome, but it is
> important to reason what makes sense for our comfort and values. That
> team-leader was embarrassed that a member of his team did something that
> went against the grain of that society in an outside country, in which he
> wanted to show off his best conformance from the team.
>
> People who feel the need to conform to out-dated society norms of our
> former colonizers doesn’t have to be come your problem, whether back then
> as a 6th grader or now as a grown man.
>
> Please see his outburst to you back then as a child as his problem, not
> yours. His twisted agenda was being affected by you, that’s it. You have to
> remind yourself every time that you will not allow that childhood
> experience to determine your life now. Live and be happy, on your terms,
> your way. That’s what I would say to you. But it may take some practice and
> courage and self-reassurance before you start to feel comfortable with your
> own choices against that experience.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Yamuna Jivana dasa
>
>
>
> *From:* 'PAUL MUDDHA' via AccessIndia [mailto:
> accessindia@accessindia.org.in]
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 20, 2024 3:10 PM
> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> *Subject:* RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically
> eating independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick
>
>
>
> I remember when I was in 6Th standard we were in Germany and on one
> occasion in Berlin, I was eating with my hand and using spoon and knife
>
> The leader of my team suddenly shook my shoulders and shoulded a loud that
> why I am eating with my hand and not using spoon and knife
>
> did we not teach you to use spoon and knife in India?
>
> A very bad experience…
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in  *On
> Behalf Of *minalsing...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* 20 July 2024 15:05
> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> *Subject:* RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically
> eating independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick
>
>
>
> *CAUTION:* This email is originated from outside Canara Bank. Do not
> click any links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and
> know that the content is safe.
>
> Same with me most of the time—I also prefer to eat with my fingers.
> However, for certain juicy items like dal chawal or upma, I use a bowl and
> spoon. Even with idly, if I'm eating it with sambar, I ask for a soup bowl,
> dip the idly, mix it with chutney, and use a spoon. If I want to eat the
> idly separately, I eat it with my hands and hold the sambar bowl in my left
> hand, drinking a small amount with each bite. Apart from that, I mostly
> enjoy eating with my fingers. One more thing I've noticed: whenever I eat
> with a spoon, I hold the bowl in my left hand, and if I'm eating from a
> plate, I hold a tissue in my left hand. I use to follow this way
> consistently.
>
> Actually, I think we should do what feels right to us, not just with
> eating but in every aspect, whether it's clothing or dining. There is one
> thing I believe: we should always keep ourselves well-maintained, wearing
> neat and good clothes, being well-dressed, and keeping ourselves neat.
>
>
>
> ---
>
> "If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together."
>
> ---
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Minal Singhvi
>
> Founder/Director of Radio Udaan
>
> Chief Trustee of Udaan Empowerment Trust
>
> Section Officer in Deputy Commissioner's Office, Telangana
>
>  Visit: www.radioudaan.com
>
>  8886523455
>
> ✉️ minalsi

RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Paul,

Childhood experiences like these can be hard to overcome, but it is important 
to reason what makes sense for our comfort and values. That team-leader was 
embarrassed that a member of his team did something that went against the grain 
of that society in an outside country, in which he wanted to show off his best 
conformance from the team.

People who feel the need to conform to out-dated society norms of our former 
colonizers doesn’t have to be come your problem, whether back then as a 6th 
grader or now as a grown man.

Please see his outburst to you back then as a child as his problem, not yours. 
His twisted agenda was being affected by you, that’s it. You have to remind 
yourself every time that you will not allow that childhood experience to 
determine your life now. Live and be happy, on your terms, your way. That’s 
what I would say to you. But it may take some practice and courage and 
self-reassurance before you start to feel comfortable with your own choices 
against that experience.

 

Regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

From: 'PAUL MUDDHA' via AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] 
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2024 3:10 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating 
independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

 

I remember when I was in 6Th standard we were in Germany and on one occasion in 
Berlin, I was eating with my hand and using spoon and knife

The leader of my team suddenly shook my shoulders and shoulded a loud that why 
I am eating with my hand and not using spoon and knife

did we not teach you to use spoon and knife in India?

A very bad experience…

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > On 
Behalf Of minalsing...@gmail.com <mailto:minalsing...@gmail.com> 
Sent: 20 July 2024 15:05
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating 
independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

 

CAUTION: This email is originated from outside Canara Bank. Do not click any 
links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know that the 
content is safe. 

Same with me most of the time—I also prefer to eat with my fingers. However, 
for certain juicy items like dal chawal or upma, I use a bowl and spoon. Even 
with idly, if I'm eating it with sambar, I ask for a soup bowl, dip the idly, 
mix it with chutney, and use a spoon. If I want to eat the idly separately, I 
eat it with my hands and hold the sambar bowl in my left hand, drinking a small 
amount with each bite. Apart from that, I mostly enjoy eating with my fingers. 
One more thing I've noticed: whenever I eat with a spoon, I hold the bowl in my 
left hand, and if I'm eating from a plate, I hold a tissue in my left hand. I 
use to follow this way consistently.

Actually, I think we should do what feels right to us, not just with eating but 
in every aspect, whether it's clothing or dining. There is one thing I believe: 
we should always keep ourselves well-maintained, wearing neat and good clothes, 
being well-dressed, and keeping ourselves neat.

 

---

"If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together."

---

Thanks and regards,

Minal Singhvi

Founder/Director of Radio Udaan

Chief Trustee of Udaan Empowerment Trust

Section Officer in Deputy Commissioner's Office, Telangana

 Visit: www.radioudaan.com <http://www.radioudaan.com> 

 8886523455

✉️ minalsing...@gmail.com <mailto:minalsing...@gmail.com> 

 https://www.linkedin.com/in/minal-singhvi-a5a722117/

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 https://www.facebook.com/minal.singhvi/

 https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVdKG6BUI4adCUvkvV5lrUHmZxBCbPoMJ

 

 

 

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > On 
Behalf Of Yamuna Jivana Dasa
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 10:29 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating 
independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

 

People,

This is just my opinion and how I live my life. You don’t have to agree.

 

As much as I cannot avoid being blind, I prefer living my life being 
comfortable with what works for me, and this includes dining.

 

Mostly I use my fingers to eat. Whatever context I find myself in, I am even 
ready to announce: I eat best with my fingers, and it’s an art. I pick up rice 
with my finger-tips without dropping, which is something many who are used to 
knife and fork cannot do. (At this point I might chuckle slightly as I 
gracefully remove the knife or fork or even spoon from my plate.) So thanks for 
the invitatio

RE: [AI] Office 365 family subscription.

['PAUL MUDDHA' via AccessIndia]

Nobody has patience to get hert by abusive language Mr. Pratham and you should 
have not used such words in the first place..
All must avoid bad language in this forum.


From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
Of pratham.shubh...@gmail.com
Sent: 20 July 2024 15:51
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 365 family subscription.

CAUTION: This email is originated from outside Canara Bank. Do not click any 
links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know that the 
content is safe.
And for you Mr., if I really lost control over my language, you should 
definitely started hiding somewhere.
I don’t know, what’s the matter between you and Shiva Suresh & even not 
interested to know about it as well.
Nidar Shiva Suresh is my friend, nor I am interested in becoming a part of any 
stupid controversy.
It’s just that, any matter between both of you should be settled outside of 
this mailing list, not here.
Sent from my iPhone


On 19 Jul 2024, at 8:20 PM, 
techsavi.shan...@gmail.com<mailto:techsavi.shan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Firstly, mind your language before talking to me.
He has been attempting to attack me for a long time.
Please don’t interfere in this matter."
I clearly mentioned the typos in my previous email."
He holds a personal grudge against me and whenever he finds an opportunity, he 
attacks me."


From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in<mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>> On 
Behalf Of pratham.shubh...@gmail.com<mailto:pratham.shubh...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 5:52 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in<mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 365 family subscription.

He is not creating an issue, just querying about it.
You just mind your language!
Sent from my iPhone



On 19 Jul 2024, at 5:20 PM, Shankar C 
mailto:techsavi.shan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Although you are quite knowledgeable in this matter, it was just a typo.
Why are you creating so much nonsense  on this issue?

On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 1:48 PM Siva Suresh 
mailto:sivasureshka...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yes you are right it is having 1TB of one drive storage for each person in the 
family a subscription. I am not sure how then 100 GB of one drive storage have 
coming to picture please provide appropriate links for better understanding. 
Thanks

On Fri, Jul 19, 2024, 7:59 AM Vikas Kapoor 
mailto:dl.vi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
100GB? I'm also having a family subscription and I'm enjoying 1TB  of cloud 
space.

On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 18:13, Shankar C 
mailto:techsavi.shan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi friends,

Recently, we purchased an Office 365 Family subscription for 6 devices, and we 
have a slot available for 1 person.

The package includes Word, Excel, Outlook, and 100 GB of OneDrive storage

out of the box, we provide all the necessary support on all your office related 
queries on the whatsapp office 365 group.

the key will be issued on first come first serve basis



If anyone is interested, please contact

shanka...@tech-accessibility.in<mailto:shanka...@tech-accessibility.in> or

call 7795927572.

Thank you!
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Re: [AI] Office 365 family subscription.

[pratham . shubham7]

And for you Mr., if I really lost control over my language, you should definitely started hiding somewhere.I don’t know, what’s the matter between you and Shiva Suresh & even not interested to know about it as well.Nidar Shiva Suresh is my friend, nor I am interested in becoming a part of any stupid controversy.It’s just that, any matter between both of you should be settled outside of this mailing list, not here.Sent from my iPhoneOn 19 Jul 2024, at 8:20 PM, techsavi.shan...@gmail.com wrote:Firstly, mind your language before talking to me.He has been attempting to attack me for a long time.Please don’t interfere in this matter."I clearly mentioned the typos in my previous email."He holds a personal grudge against me and whenever he finds an opportunity, he attacks me."  From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf Of pratham.shubh...@gmail.comSent: Friday, July 19, 2024 5:52 PMTo: accessindia@accessindia.org.inSubject: Re: [AI] Office 365 family subscription. He is not creating an issue, just querying about it.You just mind your language!Sent from my iPhoneOn 19 Jul 2024, at 5:20 PM, Shankar C <techsavi.shan...@gmail.com> wrote:Although you are quite knowledgeable in this matter, it was just a typo.Why are you creating so much nonsense  on this issue? On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 1:48 PM Siva Suresh <sivasureshka...@gmail.com> wrote:Yes you are right it is having 1TB of one drive storage for each person in the family a subscription. I am not sure how then 100 GB of one drive storage have coming to picture please provide appropriate links for better understanding. Thanks On Fri, Jul 19, 2024, 7:59 AM Vikas Kapoor <dl.vi...@gmail.com> wrote:100GB? I'm also having a family subscription and I'm enjoying 1TB  of cloud space. On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 18:13, Shankar C <techsavi.shan...@gmail.com> wrote:Hi friends,Recently, we purchased an Office 365 Family subscription for 6 devices, and we have a slot available for 1 person. The package includes Word, Excel, Outlook, and 100 GB of OneDrive storage out of the box, we provide all the necessary support on all your office related queries on the whatsapp office 365 group.the key will be issued on first come first serve basis If anyone is interested, please contact shanka...@tech-accessibility.in orcall 7795927572.Thank you!-- Disclaimer:1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..  Search for old postings at:http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAKwMOJ1P-PrDEnXyhX72k0nwzUy2toreM7dia-5St3gZHmOA7g%40mail.gmail.com.-- Disclaimer:1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..  Search for old postings at:http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CANJnwVHV0dp0%2B69yRNfpxHpmVZpQmojEOVpi-%2BsFX0fOFaF39Q%40mail.gmail.com.-- Disclaimer:1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..  Search for old postings at:http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAOHv0xgfjyo_PNFNpNtiCoGLLg4t_T7JrQ5W80GXq3--c%2BoyWg%40mail.gmail.com.-- Disclaimer:1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..  Search for old postings at:http://www.mail-archive.com

Re: [AI] Office 365 family subscription.

[pratham . shubham7]

Yes, Payal you are absolutely right! When two person are arguing in a mailing list/group, then it’s not a personal stuff. We as responsible members of this mailing list, Should intervene and stop it right there.Sent from my iPhoneOn 20 Jul 2024, at 12:43 PM, Payal Ki Jhankar  wrote:It's time both of you took this battle of words off the list. Whatever issues exist, or not between the two of you is not the concern of this mailing list, and I'm sure we can do without the clutter, which is essentially between you too.PayalOn Sat, 20 Jul 2024 at 11:38 AM, Siva Suresh <sivasureshka...@gmail.com> wrote:No personal attacks at least on the list. I replied on the mail only to help the users with proper information and if I really have something I have every courage to attack you directly not on the list hope this helps. And don't ask someone to mind your language at least on the public platforms as it sounds very rude in you are behaviour towards others 
On Fri, Jul 19, 2024, 8:20 PM  <techsavi.shan...@gmail.com> wrote:Firstly, mind your language before talking to me.He has been attempting to attack me for a long time.Please don’t interfere in this matter."I clearly mentioned the typos in my previous email."He holds a personal grudge against me and whenever he finds an opportunity, he attacks me."  From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> On Behalf Of pratham.shubh...@gmail.comSent: Friday, July 19, 2024 5:52 PMTo: accessindia@accessindia.org.inSubject: Re: [AI] Office 365 family subscription. He is not creating an issue, just querying about it.You just mind your language!Sent from my iPhoneOn 19 Jul 2024, at 5:20 PM, Shankar C <techsavi.shan...@gmail.com> wrote:Although you are quite knowledgeable in this matter, it was just a typo.Why are you creating so much nonsense  on this issue? On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 1:48 PM Siva Suresh <sivasureshka...@gmail.com> wrote:Yes you are right it is having 1TB of one drive storage for each person in the family a subscription. I am not sure how then 100 GB of one drive storage have coming to picture please provide appropriate links for better understanding. Thanks On Fri, Jul 19, 2024, 7:59 AM Vikas Kapoor <dl.vi...@gmail.com> wrote:100GB? I'm also having a family subscription and I'm enjoying 1TB  of cloud space. On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 18:13, Shankar C <techsavi.shan...@gmail.com> wrote:Hi friends,Recently, we purchased an Office 365 Family subscription for 6 devices, and we have a slot available for 1 person. The package includes Word, Excel, Outlook, and 100 GB of OneDrive storage out of the box, we provide all the necessary support on all your office related queries on the whatsapp office 365 group.the key will be issued on first come first serve basis If anyone is interested, please contact shanka...@tech-accessibility.in orcall 7795927572.Thank you!-- Disclaimer:1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..  Search for old postings at:http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAKwMOJ1P-PrDEnXyhX72k0nwzUy2toreM7dia-5St3gZHmOA7g%40mail.gmail.com.-- Disclaimer:1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..  Search for old postings at:http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CANJnwVHV0dp0%2B69yRNfpxHpmVZpQmojEOVpi-%2BsFX0fOFaF39Q%40mail.gmail.com.-- Disclaimer:1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..  Search for old postings at:http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from 

RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

['PAUL MUDDHA' via AccessIndia]

I remember when I was in 6Th standard we were in Germany and on one occasion in 
Berlin, I was eating with my hand and using spoon and knife
The leader of my team suddenly shook my shoulders and shoulded a loud that why 
I am eating with my hand and not using spoon and knife
did we not teach you to use spoon and knife in India?
A very bad experience…


From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
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Subject: RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating 
independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

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Same with me most of the time—I also prefer to eat with my fingers. However, 
for certain juicy items like dal chawal or upma, I use a bowl and spoon. Even 
with idly, if I'm eating it with sambar, I ask for a soup bowl, dip the idly, 
mix it with chutney, and use a spoon. If I want to eat the idly separately, I 
eat it with my hands and hold the sambar bowl in my left hand, drinking a small 
amount with each bite. Apart from that, I mostly enjoy eating with my fingers. 
One more thing I've noticed: whenever I eat with a spoon, I hold the bowl in my 
left hand, and if I'm eating from a plate, I hold a tissue in my left hand. I 
use to follow this way consistently.
Actually, I think we should do what feels right to us, not just with eating but 
in every aspect, whether it's clothing or dining. There is one thing I believe: 
we should always keep ourselves well-maintained, wearing neat and good clothes, 
being well-dressed, and keeping ourselves neat.

---
"If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together."
---
Thanks and regards,
Minal Singhvi
Founder/Director of Radio Udaan
Chief Trustee of Udaan Empowerment Trust
Section Officer in Deputy Commissioner's Office, Telangana
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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in<mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>> On 
Behalf Of Yamuna Jivana Dasa
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 10:29 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in<mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating 
independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

People,
This is just my opinion and how I live my life. You don’t have to agree.

As much as I cannot avoid being blind, I prefer living my life being 
comfortable with what works for me, and this includes dining.

Mostly I use my fingers to eat. Whatever context I find myself in, I am even 
ready to announce: I eat best with my fingers, and it’s an art. I pick up rice 
with my finger-tips without dropping, which is something many who are used to 
knife and fork cannot do. (At this point I might chuckle slightly as I 
gracefully remove the knife or fork or even spoon from my plate.) So thanks for 
the invitation to dine with the team! Then I dig into that meal, with dignity 
and pride to eat with my fingers, smiling with confidence all the way, and not 
hesitating to contribute to the light-hearted dinner table discussions or 
perhaps business meetings that might occur.

To those who think I am below their so-called dignity, you like me, you don’t 
like me, because may be I look strange eating differently, then hey let that be 
your problem, but I’ll be cheerful all the way through. High-minded people will 
appreciate me for who I am. I’ve learnt through my life to be confident about 
who I am, and in the beginning people might resist me, gradually tolerate me, 
and eventually even love me for who I am. At least, those will be the people 
who matter to me.

Let me share my story at the bank where I worked.
I used to work for First National Bank in South Africa. I never hid my identity 
as a Hare Krishna devotee, nor was I shy about my blindness. These were both 
abnormalities in the predominantly African country where I lived.
Gradually people would notice me walking the corrordoors during my lunch 
breaks, or after work while waiting for my transport, softly mouthing the Hare 
Krishna Mahamantra. Eventually it became normal for them. Eventually some began 
asking questions about my belief systems, and even took books to read about it. 
When I was retrenched due to a decision from head-office which forced 5 blind 
people and 1 deaf person at back offices from around the country to lose our 
jobs, there were many who visibly displayed unhappiness at my leaving, w

RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

[minalsinghvi]

Same with me most of the time—I also prefer to eat with my fingers. However, 
for certain juicy items like dal chawal or upma, I use a bowl and spoon. Even 
with idly, if I'm eating it with sambar, I ask for a soup bowl, dip the idly, 
mix it with chutney, and use a spoon. If I want to eat the idly separately, I 
eat it with my hands and hold the sambar bowl in my left hand, drinking a small 
amount with each bite. Apart from that, I mostly enjoy eating with my fingers. 
One more thing I've noticed: whenever I eat with a spoon, I hold the bowl in my 
left hand, and if I'm eating from a plate, I hold a tissue in my left hand. I 
use to follow this way consistently.

Actually, I think we should do what feels right to us, not just with eating but 
in every aspect, whether it's clothing or dining. There is one thing I believe: 
we should always keep ourselves well-maintained, wearing neat and good clothes, 
being well-dressed, and keeping ourselves neat.

 

---

"If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together."

---

Thanks and regards,

Minal Singhvi

Founder/Director of Radio Udaan

Chief Trustee of Udaan Empowerment Trust

Section Officer in Deputy Commissioner's Office, Telangana

 Visit: www.radioudaan.com <http://www.radioudaan.com> 

 8886523455

✉️ minalsing...@gmail.com <mailto:minalsing...@gmail.com> 

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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
Of Yamuna Jivana Dasa
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 10:29 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating 
independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

 

People,

This is just my opinion and how I live my life. You don’t have to agree.

 

As much as I cannot avoid being blind, I prefer living my life being 
comfortable with what works for me, and this includes dining.

 

Mostly I use my fingers to eat. Whatever context I find myself in, I am even 
ready to announce: I eat best with my fingers, and it’s an art. I pick up rice 
with my finger-tips without dropping, which is something many who are used to 
knife and fork cannot do. (At this point I might chuckle slightly as I 
gracefully remove the knife or fork or even spoon from my plate.) So thanks for 
the invitation to dine with the team! Then I dig into that meal, with dignity 
and pride to eat with my fingers, smiling with confidence all the way, and not 
hesitating to contribute to the light-hearted dinner table discussions or 
perhaps business meetings that might occur.

 

To those who think I am below their so-called dignity, you like me, you don’t 
like me, because may be I look strange eating differently, then hey let that be 
your problem, but I’ll be cheerful all the way through. High-minded people will 
appreciate me for who I am. I’ve learnt through my life to be confident about 
who I am, and in the beginning people might resist me, gradually tolerate me, 
and eventually even love me for who I am. At least, those will be the people 
who matter to me.

 

Let me share my story at the bank where I worked.

I used to work for First National Bank in South Africa. I never hid my identity 
as a Hare Krishna devotee, nor was I shy about my blindness. These were both 
abnormalities in the predominantly African country where I lived.

Gradually people would notice me walking the corrordoors during my lunch 
breaks, or after work while waiting for my transport, softly mouthing the Hare 
Krishna Mahamantra. Eventually it became normal for them. Eventually some began 
asking questions about my belief systems, and even took books to read about it. 
When I was retrenched due to a decision from head-office which forced 5 blind 
people and 1 deaf person at back offices from around the country to lose our 
jobs, there were many who visibly displayed unhappiness at my leaving, with 
some of the ladies even crying when I walked out. I had to cheer them up with 
assurances that I will be fine and that I have God’s protection with me.

 

Point being for me at least which worked: Be who you are, be comfortable in 
your skin, so comfortable in fact that others will not help loving your 
confidence in your differences from them.

Yes you’ll get the occasional scoff, snide remark, or statements of lack of 
confidence regarding your visible challenges. Take those with a grain of salt, 
and look past them. Those will not make you, so not worth your contemplation 
anyway.

 

Do you know, eating with your fingers is the best method for digestion? It’s 
the most natural way, and we were created to do that. As your fingers touch the 
food, it promotes your salivation in your mouth: the touch stimulates by the 
temperature, texture and conte

RE: [AI] Help needed in getting UDID

['PAUL MUDDHA' via AccessIndia]

My Udid Card is wornout how to generate another from the website?
Help is neded in this regard.


From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
Of Meesha Arora
Sent: 20 July 2024 13:46
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Help needed in getting UDID

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Dear Ajay, Amar, Vivek and Gufran,
Thank you very much for sharing your experiences and suggesting the most 
expeditious  way to get my UDID. I will certainly follow the advice and 
hopefully get it sorted.
I will get back to this group if I need any further help or information 
regarding this matter.
Thanks again and nice weekend  

On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 8:15 AM Ajay Kharb 
mailto:ajaykharb2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Respected Mam. Hope that this message finds you well.
I have hereby described some of the possibilities that can act as a barrier in 
issuing your UDID card, and also some of the possible solutions for it, as I am 
myself from Delhi and got my UDID issued from AIIMS Delhi.
As you rightly mentioned that you have successfully applied online for the card 
but have not received any updates regarding the further process. This was the 
same case with myself as well as after applying online for the UDID, I did not 
get any message from the hospital regarding my medical check up. After which I 
decided to take a print-out of my application form with all other important 
documents and visited the hospital myself. The process of verification and 
medical check up was then very fast and I got my UDID issued within 2 days.
Although I would like to clarify that according to the procedure prescribed by 
the government, one should wait until we receive any SMS from our nearest 
hospital and then go with the full procedure accordingly. But as I told my 
experience and many of my friends also simply visited the hospital after 
filling the online application and the work was done much quickly. Even they 
got their UDIDS issued with less than a weeks time. So my suggestion to you on 
this entire thing would be, that there is no harm in visiting the hospital and 
just giving it a try. I am sure that this will really help a lot.
With best regards
Ajay

On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 10:48 PM Meesha Arora 
mailto:meesha2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks Amiyo, I was not aware it takes such a long time.
Just wondering if it’s the same process for Delhi NCR?

Regards,
Meesha


On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 1:34 PM, Amiyo Biswas 
mailto:amiyo.bis...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Normally it takes months to complete the process in west bengal. Keep checking 
your status from time to time. The matter will be referred to some hospital, in 
most cases, the hospital you chose during application. Once referral is 
displayed, you may contact the hospital.

With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329
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disabled.<mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2024 1:23 PM
Subject: [AI] Help needed in getting UDID



Dear Members,
I have disability certificate from AIIMS, New Delhi and I am trying to get UDID 
for myself. I have filled the online application for the UDID however even 
after almost a month there is no update in the status of my application.
Can someone guide me please if I should do something additional to receive my 
UDID.
Or if there some other effective process to get UDID issued like if there is an 
office I need to follow up with?

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RE: [AI] Income tax portel

[minalsinghvi]

Hi,

it's already on YouTube.

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
Of Amiyo Biswas
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2024 7:40 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Income tax portel

 

Though I have done it, I would request you to upload this tutorial on youtube. 
It will help lots of people.


With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329

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To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  

Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 3:52 PM

Subject: RE: [AI] Income tax portel

 

Yes, I created a tutorial using NVDA for filling out Form 10 I A, and I did not 
face any issues.

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > On 
Behalf Of Amar Jain
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 3:42 PM
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Cc: Kanchan Pamnani mailto:kanchanpamn...@gmail.com> 
>
Subject: Re: [AI] Income tax portel

 

The portal experience is dependent upon whether you are NVDA user vs other 
screen reader users. For instance Form 10IA is terrible if used with Jaws.

 

On 19/07/2024 15:30, Kanchan Pamnani wrote:

1.   Are we able to file our own returns?

2.   Is Form 10IA accessable

3.   Do we have to fill the nature of disability-Blind etc or just 
permanent and temporary

 

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Re: [AI] Help needed in getting UDID

[Meesha Arora]

Dear Ajay, Amar, Vivek and Gufran,
Thank you very much for sharing your experiences and suggesting the most
expeditious  way to get my UDID. I will certainly follow the advice and
hopefully get it sorted.
I will get back to this group if I need any further help or information
regarding this matter.
Thanks again and nice weekend  

On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 8:15 AM Ajay Kharb  wrote:

> Respected Mam. Hope that this message finds you well.
> I have hereby described some of the possibilities that can act as a
> barrier in issuing your UDID card, and also some of the possible solutions
> for it, as I am myself from Delhi and got my UDID issued from AIIMS Delhi.
> As you rightly mentioned that you have successfully applied online for the
> card but have not received any updates regarding the further process. This
> was the same case with myself as well as after applying online for the
> UDID, I did not get any message from the hospital regarding my medical
> check up. After which I decided to take a print-out of my application form
> with all other important documents and visited the hospital myself. The
> process of verification and medical check up was then very fast and I got
> my UDID issued within 2 days.
> Although I would like to clarify that according to the procedure
> prescribed by the government, one should wait until we receive any SMS from
> our nearest hospital and then go with the full procedure accordingly. But
> as I told my experience and many of my friends also simply visited the
> hospital after filling the online application and the work was done much
> quickly. Even they got their UDIDS issued with less than a weeks time. So
> my suggestion to you on this entire thing would be, that there is no harm
> in visiting the hospital and just giving it a try. I am sure that this will
> really help a lot.
> With best regards
> Ajay
>
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 10:48 PM Meesha Arora 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Amiyo, I was not aware it takes such a long time.
>> Just wondering if it’s the same process for Delhi NCR?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Meesha
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 1:34 PM, Amiyo Biswas 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Normally it takes months to complete the process in west bengal. Keep
>>> checking your status from time to time. The matter will be referred to some
>>> hospital, in most cases, the hospital you chose during application. Once
>>> referral is displayed, you may contact the hospital.
>>>
>>> With best regards,
>>> Amiyo Biswas
>>> Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> *From:* Meesha Arora 
>>> *To:* AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning the disabled. 
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 18, 2024 1:23 PM
>>> *Subject:* [AI] Help needed in getting UDID
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Members,
>>> I have disability certificate from AIIMS, New Delhi and I am trying to
>>> get UDID for myself. I have filled the online application for the UDID
>>> however even after almost a month there is no update in the status of my
>>> application.
>>> Can someone guide me please if I should do something additional to
>>> receive my UDID.
>>> Or if there some other effective process to get UDID issued like if
>>> there is an office I need to follow up with?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks and regards,
>>> Meesha
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
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Re: [AI] Office 365 family subscription.

[Payal Ki Jhankar]

It's time both of you took this battle of words off the list. Whatever
issues exist, or not between the two of you is not the concern of this
mailing list, and I'm sure we can do without the clutter, which is
essentially between you too.
Payal

On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 at 11:38 AM, Siva Suresh 
wrote:

> No personal attacks at least on the list. I replied on the mail only to
> help the users with proper information and if I really have something I
> have every courage to attack you directly not on the list hope this helps.
> And don't ask someone to mind your language at least on the public
> platforms as it sounds very rude in you are behaviour towards others
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2024, 8:20 PM  wrote:
>
>> Firstly, mind your language before talking to me.
>>
>> He has been attempting to attack me for a long time.
>>
>> Please don’t interfere in this matter."
>>
>> I clearly mentioned the typos in my previous email."
>>
>> He holds a personal grudge against me and whenever he finds an
>> opportunity, he attacks me."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in  *On
>> Behalf Of *pratham.shubh...@gmail.com
>> *Sent:* Friday, July 19, 2024 5:52 PM
>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Office 365 family subscription.
>>
>>
>>
>> He is not creating an issue, just querying about it.
>>
>> You just mind your language!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> On 19 Jul 2024, at 5:20 PM, Shankar C  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Although you are quite knowledgeable in this matter, it was just a typo.
>>
>> Why are you creating so much nonsense  on this issue?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 1:48 PM Siva Suresh 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes you are right it is having 1TB of one drive storage for each person
>> in the family a subscription. I am not sure how then 100 GB of one drive
>> storage have coming to picture please provide appropriate links for better
>> understanding. Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2024, 7:59 AM Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
>>
>> 100GB? I'm also having a family subscription and I'm enjoying 1TB  of
>> cloud space.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 18:13, Shankar C 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi friends,
>>
>> Recently, we purchased an Office 365 Family subscription for 6 devices,
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RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

[Preeti Monga]

Certainly I agree with you! However, eating with hand / fingers can be refined 
and if eaten neately without soiling your full hand, then it is great! When in 
Germany, I used to get people around the table to cut up my food, that is if it 
so required, and then eat with a fork  or my fingers, which ever was more 
comfortable! And, there were many Germans who followed me and thanked me to 
have shown them the wonderful way  to eat comfortably and they reported that 
they enjoyed their food that way much more! The idea is to know certain things 
about eating neately and remembering not to put the knife into your mouth! That 
is all it requires.

Also eating with your mouth over full, eating with your mouth open, eating with 
funny sounds of slurping and other sounds, or picking up the plate and licking 
from it or putting your tongue into the bowl  and licking it in public  may not 
be not welcomed by others on the table, may it be family or business partners 
or colleague’s!

Just a few thoughts and sharings.

Warmly

Preeti

 

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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Yamuna Jivana Dasa
Sent: 19 July 2024 22:29
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating 
independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

 

People,

This is just my opinion and how I live my life. You don’t have to agree.

 

As much as I cannot avoid being blind, I prefer living my life being 
comfortable with what works for me, and this includes dining.

 

Mostly I use my fingers to eat. Whatever context I find myself in, I am even 
ready to announce: I eat best with my fingers, and it’s an art. I pick up rice 
with my finger-tips without dropping, which is something many who are used to 
knife and fork cannot do. (At this point I might chuckle slightly as I 
gracefully remove the knife or fork or even spoon from my plate.) So thanks for 
the invitation to dine with the team! Then I dig into that meal, with dignity 
and pride to eat with my fingers, smiling with confidence all the way, and not 
hesitating to contribute to the light-hearted dinner table discussions or 
perhaps business meetings that might occur.

 

To those who think I am below their so-called dignity, you like me, you don’t 
like me, because may be I look strange eating differently, then hey let that be 
your problem, but I’ll be cheerful all the way through. High-minded people will 
appreciate me for who I am. I’ve learnt through my life to be confident about 
who I am, and in the beginning people might resist me, gradually tolerate me, 
and eventually even love me for who I am. At least, those will be the people 
who matter to me.

 

Let me share my story at the bank where I worked.

I used to work for First National Bank in South Africa. I never hid my identity 
as a Hare Krishna devotee, nor was I shy about my blindness. These were both 
abnormalities in the predominantly African country where I lived.

Gradually people would notice me walking the corrordoors during my lunch 
breaks, or after work while waiting for my transport, softly mouthing the Hare 
Krishna Mahamantra. Eventually it became normal for them. Eventually some began 
asking questions about my belief systems, and even took books to read about it. 
When I was retrenched due to a decision from head-office which forced 5 blind 
people and 1 deaf person at back offices from around the country to lose our 
jobs, there were many who visibly displayed unhappiness at my leaving, with 
some of the ladies even crying when I walked out. I had to cheer them up with 
assurances that I will be fine and that I have God’s protection with me.

 

Point being for me at least which worked: Be who you are, be comfortable in 
your skin, so comfortable in fact that others will not help loving your 
confidence in your differences from them.

Yes you’ll get the occasional scoff, snide remark, or statements of lack of 
confidence regarding your visible challenges. Take those with a grain of salt, 
and look past them. Those will not make you, so not worth your contemplation 
anyway.

 

Do you know, eating with your fingers is the best method for digestion? It’s 
the most natural way, and we were created to do that. As your fingers touch the 
food, it promotes your salivation in your m

Re: [AI] About E-filing.

[Manoj Gupta]

Dear thanks so very much for your kind cooperation and guidance

Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  on behalf 
of Amiyo Biswas 
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2024 7:47:02 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
Subject: Re: [AI] About E-filing.

This is a quack solution suggested by Jeegar and a web site. When the errors 
occurred, I activated the links provided in the error message.

On the 80d schedule, I typed in 10,000 in the expense field and saved it.

On the 80dd schedule, I I mentioned my wife as a disabled dependent. I used her 
name because imaginary pan and aadhaar were not accepted.

Then on the deductions page, I deleted both the schedules and the error 
messages disappeared.

Hope, this helps.

With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329
- Original Message -
From: Manoj Gupta<mailto:manojgupt...@gmail.com>
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in<mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] About E-filing.

Dada:   Did you find any solution for this problem, if yes, let me know. 
One of my known to is also facing the same issue, we are also searching for 
some remedy, if we come to know, I would let you know.   Regards,
Manoj

On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 10:37 AM Amiyo Biswas 
mailto:amiyo.bis...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello,

I have filled in my itr-1. However, each time I validate my return, an error 
comes up for 80dd option. I have not opted for 80dd at all. The message is:
Please select one of the dropdown in 'Nature of disability' in schedule 80DD

I have filled in the schedule for 80u. But nothing is showing up as error in 
this schedule.
I have made several attempts, but the problem persists. Please help.

With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329

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Re: [AI] Looking for blind models

[Prerna Sobti]

> Hi

Can you share the pre requisites for this it will help to shortlist and share 
the information with you accordingly

Best

Prerna Sobti

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RE: [AI] Office 365 family subscription.

[techsavi.shankar]

I know how to behave on public platforms, so please refrain from trying to 
teach me anything about language use. Before offering assistance, ensure you 
have the skill to read and understand the entire conversation properly.

Courageous individuals do not make assumptions or create disruptions on the 
list without fully understanding the context.

I know you personally and your true nature. Once again, I advise you not to 
attempt to teach public speaking or language skills.

People like you, who contribute nothing, create unnecessary disruptions and 
distract both the list and the community.

Please ensure you maintain cleanliness and order before attempting to serve or 
teach others.

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
Of Siva Suresh
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2024 12:04 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 365 family subscription.

 

No personal attacks at least on the list. I replied on the mail only to help 
the users with proper information and if I really have something I have every 
courage to attack you directly not on the list hope this helps. And don't ask 
someone to mind your language at least on the public platforms as it sounds 
very rude in you are behaviour towards others 

 

On Fri, Jul 19, 2024, 8:20 PM mailto:techsavi.shan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Firstly, mind your language before talking to me.

He has been attempting to attack me for a long time.

Please don’t interfere in this matter."

I clearly mentioned the typos in my previous email."

He holds a personal grudge against me and whenever he finds an opportunity, he 
attacks me."

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
 On Behalf Of pratham.shubh...@gmail.com 
<mailto:pratham.shubh...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 5:52 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 365 family subscription.

 

He is not creating an issue, just querying about it.

You just mind your language!

Sent from my iPhone

 

On 19 Jul 2024, at 5:20 PM, Shankar C mailto:techsavi.shan...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Although you are quite knowledgeable in this matter, it was just a typo.

Why are you creating so much nonsense  on this issue?

 

On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 1:48 PM Siva Suresh mailto:sivasureshka...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Yes you are right it is having 1TB of one drive storage for each person in the 
family a subscription. I am not sure how then 100 GB of one drive storage have 
coming to picture please provide appropriate links for better understanding. 
Thanks

 

On Fri, Jul 19, 2024, 7:59 AM Vikas Kapoor mailto:dl.vi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

100GB? I'm also having a family subscription and I'm enjoying 1TB  of cloud 
space.

 

On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 18:13, Shankar C mailto:techsavi.shan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi friends,

Recently, we purchased an Office 365 Family subscription for 6 devices, and we 
have a slot available for 1 person. 

The package includes Word, Excel, Outlook, and 100 GB of OneDrive storage 

out of the box, we provide all the necessary support on all your office related 
queries on the whatsapp office 365 group.

the key will be issued on first come first serve basis

 

If anyone is interested, please contact 

shanka...@tech-accessibility.in <mailto:shanka...@tech-accessibility.in>  or

call 7795927572.

Thank you!

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Re: [AI] About E-filing.

[Amiyo Biswas]

This is a quack solution suggested by Jeegar and a web site. When the errors 
occurred, I activated the links provided in the error message.

On the 80d schedule, I typed in 10,000 in the expense field and saved it.

On the 80dd schedule, I I mentioned my wife as a disabled dependent. I used her 
name because imaginary pan and aadhaar were not accepted.

Then on the deductions page, I deleted both the schedules and the error 
messages disappeared.

Hope, this helps.

With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329

  - Original Message - 
  From: Manoj Gupta 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 2:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] About E-filing.


  Dada:   Did you find any solution for this problem, if yes, let me know. 
One of my known to is also facing the same issue, we are also searching for 
some remedy, if we come to know, I would let you know.   Regards,
Manoj



  On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 10:37 AM Amiyo Biswas  wrote:

Hello,

I have filled in my itr-1. However, each time I validate my return, an 
error comes up for 80dd option. I have not opted for 80dd at all. The message 
is:
Please select one of the dropdown in 'Nature of disability' in schedule 
80DD 

I have filled in the schedule for 80u. But nothing is showing up as error 
in this schedule.
I have made several attempts, but the problem persists. Please help.

With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329


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Re: [AI] Income tax portel

[Amiyo Biswas]

Though I have done it, I would request you to upload this tutorial on youtube. 
It will help lots of people.

With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329

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  From: minalsing...@gmail.com 
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  Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 3:52 PM
  Subject: RE: [AI] Income tax portel


  Yes, I created a tutorial using NVDA for filling out Form 10 I A, and I did 
not face any issues.

   

  From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On 
Behalf Of Amar Jain
  Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 3:42 PM
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Cc: Kanchan Pamnani 
  Subject: Re: [AI] Income tax portel

   

  The portal experience is dependent upon whether you are NVDA user vs other 
screen reader users. For instance Form 10IA is terrible if used with Jaws.

   

  On 19/07/2024 15:30, Kanchan Pamnani wrote:

1.   Are we able to file our own returns?

2.   Is Form 10IA accessable

3.   Do we have to fill the nature of disability-Blind etc or just 
permanent and temporary

 

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Re: [AI] Office 365 family subscription.

[Siva Suresh]

No personal attacks at least on the list. I replied on the mail only to
help the users with proper information and if I really have something I
have every courage to attack you directly not on the list hope this helps.
And don't ask someone to mind your language at least on the public
platforms as it sounds very rude in you are behaviour towards others

On Fri, Jul 19, 2024, 8:20 PM  wrote:

> Firstly, mind your language before talking to me.
>
> He has been attempting to attack me for a long time.
>
> Please don’t interfere in this matter."
>
> I clearly mentioned the typos in my previous email."
>
> He holds a personal grudge against me and whenever he finds an
> opportunity, he attacks me."
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in  *On
> Behalf Of *pratham.shubh...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Friday, July 19, 2024 5:52 PM
> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Office 365 family subscription.
>
>
>
> He is not creating an issue, just querying about it.
>
> You just mind your language!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On 19 Jul 2024, at 5:20 PM, Shankar C  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Although you are quite knowledgeable in this matter, it was just a typo.
>
> Why are you creating so much nonsense  on this issue?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 1:48 PM Siva Suresh 
> wrote:
>
> Yes you are right it is having 1TB of one drive storage for each person in
> the family a subscription. I am not sure how then 100 GB of one drive
> storage have coming to picture please provide appropriate links for better
> understanding. Thanks
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2024, 7:59 AM Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
>
> 100GB? I'm also having a family subscription and I'm enjoying 1TB  of
> cloud space.
>
>
>
> On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 18:13, Shankar C 
> wrote:
>
> Hi friends,
>
> Recently, we purchased an Office 365 Family subscription for 6 devices,
> and we have a slot available for 1 person.
>
> The package includes Word, Excel, Outlook, and 100 GB of OneDrive storage
>
> out of the box, we provide all the necessary support on all your office
> related queries on the whatsapp office 365 group.
>
> the key will be issued on first come first serve basis
>
>
>
> If anyone is interested, please contact
>
> shanka...@tech-accessibility.in or
>
> call 7795927572.
>
> Thank you!
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Re: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

[Shyam Sayanekar]

Hello Yamuna, I appreciate your frank and genuine views expressed in this
mail. I fully agree with your views. I myself never use spoon and such
other things except while eating things like icecream. I have visited about
nine countries, but I did not make any changes in my eating just because I
was outside India.

On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 10:29 PM Yamuna Jivana Dasa 
wrote:

> People,
>
> This is just my opinion and how I live my life. You don’t have to agree.
>
>
>
> As much as I cannot avoid being blind, I prefer living my life being
> comfortable with what works for me, and this includes dining.
>
>
>
> Mostly I use my fingers to eat. Whatever context I find myself in, I am
> even ready to announce: I eat best with my fingers, and it’s an art. I pick
> up rice with my finger-tips without dropping, which is something many who
> are used to knife and fork cannot do. (At this point I might chuckle
> slightly as I gracefully remove the knife or fork or even spoon from my
> plate.) So thanks for the invitation to dine with the team! Then I dig into
> that meal, with dignity and pride to eat with my fingers, smiling with
> confidence all the way, and not hesitating to contribute to the
> light-hearted dinner table discussions or perhaps business meetings that
> might occur.
>
>
>
> To those who think I am below their so-called dignity, you like me, you
> don’t like me, because may be I look strange eating differently, then hey
> let that be your problem, but I’ll be cheerful all the way through.
> High-minded people will appreciate me for who I am. I’ve learnt through my
> life to be confident about who I am, and in the beginning people might
> resist me, gradually tolerate me, and eventually even love me for who I am.
> At least, those will be the people who matter to me.
>
>
>
> Let me share my story at the bank where I worked.
>
> I used to work for First National Bank in South Africa. I never hid my
> identity as a Hare Krishna devotee, nor was I shy about my blindness. These
> were both abnormalities in the predominantly African country where I lived.
>
> Gradually people would notice me walking the corrordoors during my lunch
> breaks, or after work while waiting for my transport, softly mouthing the
> Hare Krishna Mahamantra. Eventually it became normal for them. Eventually
> some began asking questions about my belief systems, and even took books to
> read about it. When I was retrenched due to a decision from head-office
> which forced 5 blind people and 1 deaf person at back offices from around
> the country to lose our jobs, there were many who visibly displayed
> unhappiness at my leaving, with some of the ladies even crying when I
> walked out. I had to cheer them up with assurances that I will be fine and
> that I have God’s protection with me.
>
>
>
> Point being for me at least which worked: Be who you are, be comfortable
> in your skin, so comfortable in fact that others will not help loving your
> confidence in your differences from them.
>
> Yes you’ll get the occasional scoff, snide remark, or statements of lack
> of confidence regarding your visible challenges. Take those with a grain of
> salt, and look past them. Those will not make you, so not worth your
> contemplation anyway.
>
>
>
> Do you know, eating with your fingers is the best method for digestion?
> It’s the most natural way, and we were created to do that. As your fingers
> touch the food, it promotes your salivation in your mouth: the touch
> stimulates by the temperature, texture and contemplation of picking up the
> food to eat by the finger tips. It also promotes digestion activity in the
> stomach in preparation for receiving the food. It is part of natural
> digestion to eat with our fingers. It is recommended by Ayurveda. It is our
> culture, and yes, the cream of the crop: it is comfortable for blind people
> too!
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Yamuna Jivana Dasa
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
> accessindia@accessindia.org.in] *On Behalf Of *Nishant Rana
> *Sent:* Friday, July 19, 2024 1:38 AM
> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically
> eating independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> Should you or your friend find someone who is actually able to impart
> those skills, I would be very glad to hop on the bandwagon as it were, as I
> tend to dread formal occasions because I know that I have terrible terrible
> dinner/ table etiquette, and am bound to create a mess.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 22:54, turab chimthanawala 
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> A blind person in Mu

Re: [AI] Why too many barriers for people with disabilities?

[anirudh rao]

hi Sagar,
to be honest, UDID Card actually is a big joke.
as it is not working anywhere, an artificial relevance is created by the
authorities.
they just ask for a UDID card whenever you go to apply for something as an
additional document.
the bureaucrats act in India as if they are giving something from their own
pocket and it is their right to burden a disabled.
we are more a country following majoritarianism than democracy.
equality is a joke too!
wakeup to reality my friends!

On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 2:13 PM sagar Verma 
wrote:

> Thanks for sharing your views regarding the Udidq and the Disability
> Certificate. I want to know certain things. Contact me on plus 61415104029.
> Then we can discuss accordingly.
>
> On Wed, 17 July 2024, 05:18 Payal Jethra,  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> My application for UDID card has been processed in April 2024 and medical
>> formalities including sonography of the eye amongst other tests completed
>> but the status on the UDID website shows "pending- medical representative
>> will be assigned to you" Cooper Hospital Vile Parle west is the hospital
>> assigned around Mumbai suburbs. Now, I am unable to proceed with renewing
>> railway concession. I travel often and unable to move ahead on this.
>>
>> Every time I visit Cooper Hospital during mornings, I need to be watchful
>> of time for moving around through departments consumes time and I need to
>> go to office thereafter.
>> The solutions I have received so far are to call the hospital landline to
>> get the statusof UDID. For every visit to Cooper, sometimes the same
>> sighted assistance cannot be available and therefore the process gets
>> dropped off mid way.
>>
>> This is just to share the process of obtaining UDID in Mumbai and its
>> complexity as of today.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Payal Jethra
>> 7303448295
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 7:13 AM sagar Verma 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> I would like to discuss the numerous barriers and restrictions faced by
>>> people with disabilities in India. The process often appears overly
>>> complicated, not only for individuals with disabilities but for the general
>>> population as well. This complexity significantly impacts the convenience
>>> and accessibility for persons with disabilities (PWD), including those who
>>> are blind or have other disabilities.
>>>
>>> For instance, obtaining a Unique Disability ID (UDID) card is a
>>> challenging process that can be time-consuming. Although there have been
>>> improvements making the procedure somewhat faster, it remains a cumbersome
>>> task. Once the UDID card is obtained, it is not clear what specific
>>> benefits it provides. Furthermore, to avail certain concessions, one must
>>> apply for separate concession cards. For example, the Indian Railways
>>> requires an offline concession application, followed by an application for
>>> an electronic copy to book tickets online. This additional step is
>>> particularly burdensome, considering the difficulties PWD face when
>>> visiting ticket counters.
>>>
>>> Given that the UDID card already verifies an individual's disability,
>>> these extra steps seem unnecessary. Simplifying these processes would
>>> greatly enhance accessibility and convenience for PWD. I believe this issue
>>> needs to be addressed and corrected to ensure a more inclusive and
>>> efficient system.
>>>
>>> I welcome your thoughts and feedback on this matter.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Sagar Verma
>>>
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Re: [AI] Looking for blind models

[anirudh rao]

hi.
is there any gender preference for this?
if a male is ok, I shall try too!

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RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

People,

This is just my opinion and how I live my life. You don’t have to agree.

 

As much as I cannot avoid being blind, I prefer living my life being 
comfortable with what works for me, and this includes dining.

 

Mostly I use my fingers to eat. Whatever context I find myself in, I am even 
ready to announce: I eat best with my fingers, and it’s an art. I pick up rice 
with my finger-tips without dropping, which is something many who are used to 
knife and fork cannot do. (At this point I might chuckle slightly as I 
gracefully remove the knife or fork or even spoon from my plate.) So thanks for 
the invitation to dine with the team! Then I dig into that meal, with dignity 
and pride to eat with my fingers, smiling with confidence all the way, and not 
hesitating to contribute to the light-hearted dinner table discussions or 
perhaps business meetings that might occur.

 

To those who think I am below their so-called dignity, you like me, you don’t 
like me, because may be I look strange eating differently, then hey let that be 
your problem, but I’ll be cheerful all the way through. High-minded people will 
appreciate me for who I am. I’ve learnt through my life to be confident about 
who I am, and in the beginning people might resist me, gradually tolerate me, 
and eventually even love me for who I am. At least, those will be the people 
who matter to me.

 

Let me share my story at the bank where I worked.

I used to work for First National Bank in South Africa. I never hid my identity 
as a Hare Krishna devotee, nor was I shy about my blindness. These were both 
abnormalities in the predominantly African country where I lived.

Gradually people would notice me walking the corrordoors during my lunch 
breaks, or after work while waiting for my transport, softly mouthing the Hare 
Krishna Mahamantra. Eventually it became normal for them. Eventually some began 
asking questions about my belief systems, and even took books to read about it. 
When I was retrenched due to a decision from head-office which forced 5 blind 
people and 1 deaf person at back offices from around the country to lose our 
jobs, there were many who visibly displayed unhappiness at my leaving, with 
some of the ladies even crying when I walked out. I had to cheer them up with 
assurances that I will be fine and that I have God’s protection with me.

 

Point being for me at least which worked: Be who you are, be comfortable in 
your skin, so comfortable in fact that others will not help loving your 
confidence in your differences from them.

Yes you’ll get the occasional scoff, snide remark, or statements of lack of 
confidence regarding your visible challenges. Take those with a grain of salt, 
and look past them. Those will not make you, so not worth your contemplation 
anyway.

 

Do you know, eating with your fingers is the best method for digestion? It’s 
the most natural way, and we were created to do that. As your fingers touch the 
food, it promotes your salivation in your mouth: the touch stimulates by the 
temperature, texture and contemplation of picking up the food to eat by the 
finger tips. It also promotes digestion activity in the stomach in preparation 
for receiving the food. It is part of natural digestion to eat with our 
fingers. It is recommended by Ayurveda. It is our culture, and yes, the cream 
of the crop: it is comfortable for blind people too!

 

Regards,

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Nishant Rana
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 1:38 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating 
independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

 

Hello,

Should you or your friend find someone who is actually able to impart those 
skills, I would be very glad to hop on the bandwagon as it were, as I tend to 
dread formal occasions because I know that I have terrible terrible dinner/ 
table etiquette, and am bound to create a mess.

 

 

 

On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 22:54, turab chimthanawala mailto:turab...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi all,

A blind person in Mumbai wants to learn effective dining etiquette. He would 
prefer one-on-one sessions with a trainer or a person experience in this. And 
he will be willing to pay reasonable charge for this only that the trainer 
should be patient and considerate. Any leads in this regard would be greatly 
appreciated.

Thanking you

 

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 

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Re: [AI] Income tax portel

[Sameer]

Respected Kanchan Madam,


1. We are able to file our own returns independently through the online 
return filing mode & through the offline utility available for download 
on the Income-tax website


2. Form 10IA is accessible with both NVDA & JAWS. Please note that when 
filling form 10IA with JAWS, we need to turn the virtual cursor off. If 
the virtual cursor remains on, some of the combo boxes appear inaccessible.


3. In the form 10IA, there are 3 options for types of disability. 
Unfortunately blindness is not among the available options & we need to 
chose the Multiple Disabilities option.




.

Regards
Sameer Latey

On 19-07-2024 03:30 pm, Kanchan Pamnani wrote:


1.Are we able to file our own returns?

2.Is Form 10IA accessable

3.Do we have to fill the nature of disability-Blind etc or just 
permanent and temporary


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RE: [AI] Office 365 family subscription.

[techsavi.shankar]

Firstly, mind your language before talking to me.

He has been attempting to attack me for a long time.

Please don’t interfere in this matter."

I clearly mentioned the typos in my previous email."

He holds a personal grudge against me and whenever he finds an opportunity, he 
attacks me."

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
Of pratham.shubh...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 5:52 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 365 family subscription.

 

He is not creating an issue, just querying about it.

You just mind your language!

Sent from my iPhone





On 19 Jul 2024, at 5:20 PM, Shankar C mailto:techsavi.shan...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Although you are quite knowledgeable in this matter, it was just a typo.

Why are you creating so much nonsense  on this issue?

 

On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 1:48 PM Siva Suresh mailto:sivasureshka...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Yes you are right it is having 1TB of one drive storage for each person in the 
family a subscription. I am not sure how then 100 GB of one drive storage have 
coming to picture please provide appropriate links for better understanding. 
Thanks

 

On Fri, Jul 19, 2024, 7:59 AM Vikas Kapoor mailto:dl.vi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

100GB? I'm also having a family subscription and I'm enjoying 1TB  of cloud 
space.

 

On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 18:13, Shankar C mailto:techsavi.shan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi friends,

Recently, we purchased an Office 365 Family subscription for 6 devices, and we 
have a slot available for 1 person. 

The package includes Word, Excel, Outlook, and 100 GB of OneDrive storage 

out of the box, we provide all the necessary support on all your office related 
queries on the whatsapp office 365 group.

the key will be issued on first come first serve basis

 

If anyone is interested, please contact 

shanka...@tech-accessibility.in <mailto:shanka...@tech-accessibility.in>  or

call 7795927572.

Thank you!

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Re: [AI] Office 365 family subscription.

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He is not creating an issue, just querying about it.You just mind your language!Sent from my iPhoneOn 19 Jul 2024, at 5:20 PM, Shankar C  wrote:Although you are quite knowledgeable in this matter, it was just a typo.Why are you creating so much nonsense  on this issue?On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 1:48 PM Siva Suresh  wrote:Yes you are right it is having 1TB of one drive storage for each person in the family a subscription. I am not sure how then 100 GB of one drive storage have coming to picture please provide appropriate links for better understanding. ThanksOn Fri, Jul 19, 2024, 7:59 AM Vikas Kapoor  wrote:100GB? I'm also having a family subscription and I'm enjoying 1TB  of cloud space.On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 18:13, Shankar C  wrote:Hi friends,Recently, we purchased an Office 365 Family subscription for 6 devices, and we have a slot available for 1 person. The package includes Word, Excel, Outlook, and 100 GB of OneDrive storage out of the box, we provide all the necessary support on all your office related queries on the whatsapp office 365 group.the key will be issued on first come first serve basisIf anyone is interested, please contact shanka...@tech-accessibility.in orcall 7795927572.Thank you!



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RE: [AI] Income tax portel

[minalsinghvi]

Yes, I created a tutorial using NVDA for filling out Form 10 I A, and I did not 
face any issues.

 

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Subject: Re: [AI] Income tax portel

 

The portal experience is dependent upon whether you are NVDA user vs other 
screen reader users. For instance Form 10IA is terrible if used with Jaws.

 

On 19/07/2024 15:30, Kanchan Pamnani wrote:

1.   Are we able to file our own returns?

2.   Is Form 10IA accessable

3.   Do we have to fill the nature of disability-Blind etc or just 
permanent and temporary

 

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Re: [AI] Income tax portel

[Amar Jain]

The portal experience is dependent upon whether you are NVDA user vs 
other screen reader users. For instance Form 10IA is terrible if used 
with Jaws.


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1.   Are we able to file our own returns?

2.   Is Form 10IA accessable

3.   Do we have to fill the nature of disability-Blind etc or just 
permanent and temporary


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Re: [AI] a strange and a bad experience with me on amazon.

[UDIT Pandey]

hi nishant,
your correct. Not even that. One of my relative faced the same problem.
They ordered a dress. And got a torn cloth insted of their longlong awaited
beautiful dress. The amount was 3200RS. It happened with them on amazon
only.
not even that, I got to know from someone that, one of there friend,
ordered a pair of sunglasses, and he got a alive snake in the box 
when he complained, they refused his complaints also.

thanks,
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Re: [AI] Help needed in getting UDID

[gufran ahmed]

Same here in Kolkata, also I had visited an RS4 times since July 10 again I have to visited on 30th of July only for verification of data with Aadhar, so pathetic service hereSent from my iPhoneOn Jul 19, 2024, at 12:39 PM, vivek doddamani  wrote:No in Delhi neither SMS or  call is done by hospital we our self should visit hospital after applying for UDID card  On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 9:01 AM Ajay Kharb  wrote:Respected Mam. Hope that this message finds you well.I have hereby described some of the possibilities that can act as a barrier in issuing your UDID card, and also some of the possible solutions for it, as I am myself from Delhi and got my UDID issued from AIIMS Delhi.As you rightly mentioned that you have successfully applied online for the card but have not received any updates regarding the further process. This was the same case with myself as well as after applying online for the UDID, I did not get any message from the hospital regarding my medical check up. After which I decided to take a print-out of my application form with all other important documents and visited the hospital myself. The process of verification and medical check up was then very fast and I got my UDID issued within 2 days.Although I would like to clarify that according to the procedure prescribed by the government, one should wait until we receive any SMS from our nearest hospital and then go with the full procedure accordingly. But as I told my experience and many of my friends also simply visited the hospital after filling the online application and the work was done much quickly. Even they got their UDIDS issued with less than a weeks time. So my suggestion to you on this entire thing would be, that there is no harm in visiting the hospital and just giving it a try. I am sure that this will really help a lot.With best regards Ajay On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 10:48 PM Meesha Arora  wrote:Thanks Amiyo, I was not aware it takes such a long time.Just wondering if it’s the same process for Delhi NCR?Regards,MeeshaOn Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 1:34 PM, Amiyo Biswas  wrote:






Normally it takes months to complete the process in 
west bengal. Keep checking your status from time to time. The matter will be 
referred to some hospital, in most cases, the hospital you chose during 
application. Once referral is displayed, you may contact the 
hospital.
With best regards,Amiyo BiswasCell: 
6290527506 / 9433464329

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  Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2024 1:23 
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  UDID
  
  
  
  Dear Members,
  I have disability certificate from 
  AIIMS, New Delhi and I am trying to get UDID for myself. I have filled the 
  online application for the UDID however even after almost a month 
  there is no update in the status of my application.
  Can someone guide me please if I 
  should do something additional to receive my UDID.
  Or if there some other effective 
  process to get UDID issued like if there is an office I need to follow up 
  with?
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RE: [AI] Introducing Meta AI Latest Feature of WhatsApp

[minalsinghvi]

Hi First come out from  focus mode, press Insert + Space. Then, navigate one 
heading up. After that, you can find the Gemini response after the listen 
button.

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
Of george.abrah...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 10:24 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] Introducing Meta AI Latest Feature of WhatsApp

 

How does Gemini.google.com work with NVDA? I entered my question and pressed 
enter. I heard NVDA say gemini is writing and gemini has replied. After the 
focus goes to the gemini prompt edit box. The tab or the arrow keys do not get 
any response. Any way out?

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > On 
Behalf Of Amiyo Biswas
Sent: 19 July 2024 08:13
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: Re: [AI] Introducing Meta AI Latest Feature of WhatsApp

 

Google gemini is quite accessible and pretty fast. Simply type 
gemini.google.com on the address bar and hit enter.

 

The gemini page comes up with focus on the prompt edit field. Type your 
question or instruction and press enter. You may follow the same type of prompt 
as in chat gpt.

 

Gemini will say "Gemini is typing" to assure you that it is working on your 
prompt.

 

Soon gemini will say, "Gemini has replied."

 

Press insert+z to come back to virtual cursor and press h to access the heading 
1 where you will find your prompt and the reply below it. There is a listen 
button which you can activate to listen to the reply. It works in many Indian 
languages also.

 

If you have any follow up question, press the letter e to go to the prompt 
field and type in your prompt.

 

For a new question I prefer using the new chat option.

 


With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329

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Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2024 10:19 PM

Subject: Re: [AI] Introducing Meta AI Latest Feature of WhatsApp

 

Please also share tips on google gemini.

 

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<mailto:george.abrah...@gmail.com>  wrote:

Yes. It is very handy.

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Is the said feature live on iPhone also? Thanks & Regards
Harshit Lohia

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Re: [AI] Office 365 family subscription.

[Siva Suresh]

Yes you are right it is having 1TB of one drive storage for each person in
the family a subscription. I am not sure how then 100 GB of one drive
storage have coming to picture please provide appropriate links for better
understanding. Thanks

On Fri, Jul 19, 2024, 7:59 AM Vikas Kapoor  wrote:

> 100GB? I'm also having a family subscription and I'm enjoying 1TB  of
> cloud space.
>
> On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 18:13, Shankar C 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi friends,
>>
>> Recently, we purchased an Office 365 Family subscription for 6 devices,
>> and we have a slot available for 1 person.
>>
>> The package includes Word, Excel, Outlook, and 100 GB of OneDrive storage
>>
>> out of the box, we provide all the necessary support on all your office
>> related queries on the whatsapp office 365 group.
>>
>> the key will be issued on first come first serve basis
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] Office 365 family subscription.

[Shankar C]

Although you are quite knowledgeable in this matter, it was just a typo.
Why are you creating so much nonsense  on this issue?

On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 1:48 PM Siva Suresh 
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> Yes you are right it is having 1TB of one drive storage for each person in
> the family a subscription. I am not sure how then 100 GB of one drive
> storage have coming to picture please provide appropriate links for better
> understanding. Thanks
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2024, 7:59 AM Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
>
>> 100GB? I'm also having a family subscription and I'm enjoying 1TB  of
>> cloud space.
>>
>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 18:13, Shankar C 
>> wrote:
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Re: [AI] Good opportunity

[voice Connection]

Hi there

You can contact to Divya Sharma she is working in the awareness sector and
assistive technology for persons with disabilities she is a national award
winner for her work by the government of India

You can reach out to her

DivyaVision https://voiceswithresham.com

On Fri, 19 Jul 2024, 14:01 Ashutosh Singhal, 
wrote:

> Do we know any Physically Challenged Social Work Graduate / NGO leader
> working for Physically Challenged?! Need details to nominate for a 10 Month
> Leadership training program in Japan. Contact. Should be able to
> communicate in English: Human @ +91-9490069000
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Re: [AI] Looking for magazines which cover the disability area

[Amiyo Biswas]

Mitra Jyothi of Bengaluru prints a Braille quarterly, named Insight. It's a 
good mag if you read Braille.

You can find Mitra Jyothi's details on google.

With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329

  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 12:44 PM
  Subject: [AI] Looking for magazines which cover the disability area


  Hello everyone,
  I hope you are doing well. I am looking for a list of magazines that cover 
the news regarding disability and also cover the latest technology updates in 
this sector.


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Re: [AI] About E-filing.

[Manoj Gupta]

Dada:   Did you find any solution for this problem, if yes, let me
know. One of my known to is also facing the same issue, we are also
searching for some remedy, if we come to know, I would let you know.
Regards,Manoj

On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 10:37 AM Amiyo Biswas 
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> Hello,
>
> I have filled in my itr-1. However, each time I validate my return, an
> error comes up for 80dd option. I have not opted for 80dd at all. The
> message is:
> Please select one of the dropdown in 'Nature of disability' in schedule
> 80DD
>
> I have filled in the schedule for 80u. But nothing is showing up as error
> in this schedule.
> I have made several attempts, but the problem persists. Please help.
>
> With best regards,
> Amiyo Biswas
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Re: [AI] Help needed in getting UDID

[vivek doddamani]

No in Delhi neither SMS or  call is done by hospital we our self should
visit hospital after applying for UDID card

On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 9:01 AM Ajay Kharb  wrote:

> Respected Mam. Hope that this message finds you well.
> I have hereby described some of the possibilities that can act as a
> barrier in issuing your UDID card, and also some of the possible solutions
> for it, as I am myself from Delhi and got my UDID issued from AIIMS Delhi.
> As you rightly mentioned that you have successfully applied online for the
> card but have not received any updates regarding the further process. This
> was the same case with myself as well as after applying online for the
> UDID, I did not get any message from the hospital regarding my medical
> check up. After which I decided to take a print-out of my application form
> with all other important documents and visited the hospital myself. The
> process of verification and medical check up was then very fast and I got
> my UDID issued within 2 days.
> Although I would like to clarify that according to the procedure
> prescribed by the government, one should wait until we receive any SMS from
> our nearest hospital and then go with the full procedure accordingly. But
> as I told my experience and many of my friends also simply visited the
> hospital after filling the online application and the work was done much
> quickly. Even they got their UDIDS issued with less than a weeks time. So
> my suggestion to you on this entire thing would be, that there is no harm
> in visiting the hospital and just giving it a try. I am sure that this will
> really help a lot.
> With best regards
> Ajay
>
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 10:48 PM Meesha Arora 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Amiyo, I was not aware it takes such a long time.
>> Just wondering if it’s the same process for Delhi NCR?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Meesha
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 1:34 PM, Amiyo Biswas 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Normally it takes months to complete the process in west bengal. Keep
>>> checking your status from time to time. The matter will be referred to some
>>> hospital, in most cases, the hospital you chose during application. Once
>>> referral is displayed, you may contact the hospital.
>>>
>>> With best regards,
>>> Amiyo Biswas
>>> Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> *From:* Meesha Arora 
>>> *To:* AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning the disabled. 
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 18, 2024 1:23 PM
>>> *Subject:* [AI] Help needed in getting UDID
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Members,
>>> I have disability certificate from AIIMS, New Delhi and I am trying to
>>> get UDID for myself. I have filled the online application for the UDID
>>> however even after almost a month there is no update in the status of my
>>> application.
>>> Can someone guide me please if I should do something additional to
>>> receive my UDID.
>>> Or if there some other effective process to get UDID issued like if
>>> there is an office I need to follow up with?
>>>
>>> --
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Re: [AI] Office 365 family subscription.

[Shankar C]

that's correct, its 1tb.

On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 9:04 AM Vikas Kapoor  wrote:

> 100GB? I'm also having a family subscription and I'm enjoying 1TB  of
> cloud space.
>
> On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 18:13, Shankar C 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi friends,
>>
>> Recently, we purchased an Office 365 Family subscription for 6 devices,
>> and we have a slot available for 1 person.
>>
>> The package includes Word, Excel, Outlook, and 100 GB of OneDrive storage
>>
>> out of the box, we provide all the necessary support on all your office
>> related queries on the whatsapp office 365 group.
>>
>> the key will be issued on first come first serve basis
>>
>>
>> If anyone is interested, please contact
>>
>> shanka...@tech-accessibility.in or
>>
>> call 7795927572.
>>
>> Thank you!
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RE: [AI] Introducing Meta AI Latest Feature of WhatsApp

[george.abraham0]

How does Gemini.google.com work with NVDA? I entered my question and pressed 
enter. I heard NVDA say gemini is writing and gemini has replied. After the 
focus goes to the gemini prompt edit box. The tab or the arrow keys do not get 
any response. Any way out?

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
Of Amiyo Biswas
Sent: 19 July 2024 08:13
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Introducing Meta AI Latest Feature of WhatsApp

 

Google gemini is quite accessible and pretty fast. Simply type 
gemini.google.com on the address bar and hit enter.

 

The gemini page comes up with focus on the prompt edit field. Type your 
question or instruction and press enter. You may follow the same type of prompt 
as in chat gpt.

 

Gemini will say "Gemini is typing" to assure you that it is working on your 
prompt.

 

Soon gemini will say, "Gemini has replied."

 

Press insert+z to come back to virtual cursor and press h to access the heading 
1 where you will find your prompt and the reply below it. There is a listen 
button which you can activate to listen to the reply. It works in many Indian 
languages also.

 

If you have any follow up question, press the letter e to go to the prompt 
field and type in your prompt.

 

For a new question I prefer using the new chat option.

 


With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329

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To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  

Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2024 10:19 PM

Subject: Re: [AI] Introducing Meta AI Latest Feature of WhatsApp

 

Please also share tips on google gemini.

 

On 7/18/2024 10:11 PM, george.abrah...@gmail.com 
<mailto:george.abrah...@gmail.com>  wrote:

Yes. It is very handy.

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>   
<mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in%3e>  On 
Behalf Of Harshit Lohia
Sent: 18 July 2024 17:31
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Subject: Re: [AI] Introducing Meta AI Latest Feature of WhatsApp







Is the said feature live on iPhone also? Thanks & Regards
Harshit Lohia

On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 3:53 PM, NAB Delhi Helpline mailto:helpl...@nabdelhi.in> > wrote:

Meta AI is now available directly on WhatsApp! Follow these steps to start 
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1. Update WhatsApp: Ensure you have the latest version of WhatsApp installed on 
your phone.
2. Start a Conversation: Open WhatsApp and type "Meta AI" in the search bar to 
find the chatbot, or select the conversation with “Message your assistant”.
3. Select Meta AI: Choose the Meta AI chatbot from the search results to begin 
a chat.
4. Interact with Meta AI: Ask questions or give commands, and the chatbot will 
respond with helpful information or perform the requested action.

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- Definitions: "What does 'ubiquitous' mean?"
- Calculations and Conversions: "What is 10 USD in EUR?"
- Text and Image Generation: "Generate a poem" or "Create an image of a sunset"
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Re: [AI] Help needed in getting UDID

[Amar Jain]

Meesha if it is indeed urgent then call me up else wait. Thank you.Sent from my iPhoneOn 19 Jul 2024, at 7:14 AM, Ajay Kharb  wrote:Respected Mam. Hope that this message finds you well.I have hereby described some of the possibilities that can act as a barrier in issuing your UDID card, and also some of the possible solutions for it, as I am myself from Delhi and got my UDID issued from AIIMS Delhi.As you rightly mentioned that you have successfully applied online for the card but have not received any updates regarding the further process. This was the same case with myself as well as after applying online for the UDID, I did not get any message from the hospital regarding my medical check up. After which I decided to take a print-out of my application form with all other important documents and visited the hospital myself. The process of verification and medical check up was then very fast and I got my UDID issued within 2 days.Although I would like to clarify that according to the procedure prescribed by the government, one should wait until we receive any SMS from our nearest hospital and then go with the full procedure accordingly. But as I told my experience and many of my friends also simply visited the hospital after filling the online application and the work was done much quickly. Even they got their UDIDS issued with less than a weeks time. So my suggestion to you on this entire thing would be, that there is no harm in visiting the hospital and just giving it a try. I am sure that this will really help a lot.With best regards Ajay On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 10:48 PM Meesha Arora  wrote:Thanks Amiyo, I was not aware it takes such a long time.Just wondering if it’s the same process for Delhi NCR?Regards,MeeshaOn Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 1:34 PM, Amiyo Biswas  wrote:






Normally it takes months to complete the process in 
west bengal. Keep checking your status from time to time. The matter will be 
referred to some hospital, in most cases, the hospital you chose during 
application. Once referral is displayed, you may contact the 
hospital.
With best regards,Amiyo BiswasCell: 
6290527506 / 9433464329

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  Arora 
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  discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. 
  Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2024 1:23 
  PM
  Subject: [AI] Help needed in getting 
  UDID
  
  
  
  Dear Members,
  I have disability certificate from 
  AIIMS, New Delhi and I am trying to get UDID for myself. I have filled the 
  online application for the UDID however even after almost a month 
  there is no update in the status of my application.
  Can someone guide me please if I 
  should do something additional to receive my UDID.
  Or if there some other effective 
  process to get UDID issued like if there is an office I need to follow up 
  with?
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  regards,Meesha
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Re: [AI] Introducing Meta AI Latest Feature of WhatsApp

[Amiyo Biswas]

Google gemini is quite accessible and pretty fast. Simply type 
gemini.google.com on the address bar and hit enter.

The gemini page comes up with focus on the prompt edit field. Type your 
question or instruction and press enter. You may follow the same type of prompt 
as in chat gpt.

Gemini will say "Gemini is typing" to assure you that it is working on your 
prompt.

Soon gemini will say, "Gemini has replied."

Press insert+z to come back to virtual cursor and press h to access the heading 
1 where you will find your prompt and the reply below it. There is a listen 
button which you can activate to listen to the reply. It works in many Indian 
languages also.

If you have any follow up question, press the letter e to go to the prompt 
field and type in your prompt.

For a new question I prefer using the new chat option.


With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329

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  Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2024 10:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Introducing Meta AI Latest Feature of WhatsApp


  Please also share tips on google gemini.




  On 7/18/2024 10:11 PM, george.abrah...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes. It is very handy.



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Subject: Re: [AI] Introducing Meta AI Latest Feature of WhatsApp








Is the said feature live on iPhone also? Thanks & Regards
Harshit Lohia





On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 3:53 PM, NAB Delhi Helpline  
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  Meta AI is now available directly on WhatsApp! Follow these steps to 
start using it:
  1. Update WhatsApp: Ensure you have the latest version of WhatsApp 
installed on your phone.
  2. Start a Conversation: Open WhatsApp and type "Meta AI" in the search 
bar to find the chatbot, or select the conversation with “Message your 
assistant”.
  3. Select Meta AI: Choose the Meta AI chatbot from the search results to 
begin a chat.
  4. Interact with Meta AI: Ask questions or give commands, and the chatbot 
will respond with helpful information or perform the requested action.

  Examples of What You Can Ask Meta AI

  - General Knowledge: "What is the capital of France?"
  - Definitions: "What does 'ubiquitous' mean?"
  - Calculations and Conversions: "What is 10 USD in EUR?"
  - Text and Image Generation: "Generate a poem" or "Create an image of a 
sunset"
  - And Much More: Explore various queries and commands!




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Re: [AI] Office 365 family subscription.

[Vikas Kapoor]

100GB? I'm also having a family subscription and I'm enjoying 1TB  of cloud
space.

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> Hi friends,
>
> Recently, we purchased an Office 365 Family subscription for 6 devices,
> and we have a slot available for 1 person.
>
> The package includes Word, Excel, Outlook, and 100 GB of OneDrive storage
>
> out of the box, we provide all the necessary support on all your office
> related queries on the whatsapp office 365 group.
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> the key will be issued on first come first serve basis
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Re: [AI] Help needed in getting UDID

[Ajay Kharb]

Respected Mam. Hope that this message finds you well.
I have hereby described some of the possibilities that can act as a barrier
in issuing your UDID card, and also some of the possible solutions for it,
as I am myself from Delhi and got my UDID issued from AIIMS Delhi.
As you rightly mentioned that you have successfully applied online for the
card but have not received any updates regarding the further process. This
was the same case with myself as well as after applying online for the
UDID, I did not get any message from the hospital regarding my medical
check up. After which I decided to take a print-out of my application form
with all other important documents and visited the hospital myself. The
process of verification and medical check up was then very fast and I got
my UDID issued within 2 days.
Although I would like to clarify that according to the procedure prescribed
by the government, one should wait until we receive any SMS from our
nearest hospital and then go with the full procedure accordingly. But as I
told my experience and many of my friends also simply visited the hospital
after filling the online application and the work was done much quickly.
Even they got their UDIDS issued with less than a weeks time. So my
suggestion to you on this entire thing would be, that there is no harm in
visiting the hospital and just giving it a try. I am sure that this will
really help a lot.
With best regards
Ajay

On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 10:48 PM Meesha Arora  wrote:

> Thanks Amiyo, I was not aware it takes such a long time.
> Just wondering if it’s the same process for Delhi NCR?
>
> Regards,
> Meesha
>
>
> On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 1:34 PM, Amiyo Biswas 
> wrote:
>
>> Normally it takes months to complete the process in west bengal. Keep
>> checking your status from time to time. The matter will be referred to some
>> hospital, in most cases, the hospital you chose during application. Once
>> referral is displayed, you may contact the hospital.
>>
>> With best regards,
>> Amiyo Biswas
>> Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Meesha Arora 
>> *To:* AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning the disabled. 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 18, 2024 1:23 PM
>> *Subject:* [AI] Help needed in getting UDID
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Members,
>> I have disability certificate from AIIMS, New Delhi and I am trying to
>> get UDID for myself. I have filled the online application for the UDID
>> however even after almost a month there is no update in the status of my
>> application.
>> Can someone guide me please if I should do something additional to
>> receive my UDID.
>> Or if there some other effective process to get UDID issued like if there
>> is an office I need to follow up with?
>>
>> --
>> Thanks and regards,
>> Meesha
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

[Nishant Rana]

Hello,
Should you or your friend find someone who is actually able to impart those
skills, I would be very glad to hop on the bandwagon as it were, as I tend
to dread formal occasions because I know that I have terrible terrible
dinner/ table etiquette, and am bound to create a mess.



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> Hi all,
> A blind person in Mumbai wants to learn effective dining etiquette. He
> would prefer one-on-one sessions with a trainer or a person experience in
> this. And he will be willing to pay reasonable charge for this only that
> the trainer should be patient and considerate. Any leads in this regard
> would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanking you
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Re: [AI] a strange and a bad experience with me on amazon.

[Nishant Rana]

Hello all,
 A few points that I have seen bought up again and again, and must be
cleared so that there isn't any confusion.
 This was a purchase from Amazon. Amazon does not have the concept of open
box delivery where in you check the package in front of the delivery
partner, and upon satisfaction that everything's hunkey dory withe product
that you have ordered, give the OTP to the agent who goes on his merry way
to spread the joy or misery as the case maybe further.
 Whilst flipkart is notorious  for bad delivery and aftersales experiences
and refund nightmare, Amazon also has it's moments, and is getting just as
bad if not worse, because they have realised that they do not need to hold
themselves to high standards like they do in the US UK and other
european countries, as our consumer laws are dogshit and there isn't much
that a consumer can do to get back at you if you screw them, like in the
case of UDIT, Yamuna and countless others.
to illustrate, The 7 days replacement on many of their products has been
replaced with 7 days service center replacement. which in essence means if
you get a defective item, deal with the manufacturer/ actual company, and
they could care less as to what happens to you, and the product once they
have your money. No amount of video evidence will help, or whatever else,
unless of course you choose to take them to court, this doesn't of course
mean that you forgo making an video whilst opening your stuff, that's just
common sense/ and or best practice when dealing with ecommerce companys.
 Had something very similar happen to me, where in I had ordered an
harddisk of about 4TB which must have cost me around 9K or so, only to
receive the thing in a plastic bag with it's box in that same bag, but the
hdd not in the box, the cherry on top was the fact that the hdd box was
torn open savagely as if the previous owner hadn't been able to resist the
excitement upon getting it, only the heavens knows why they returned it
after, though...
 I had video evidence of me opening it, tweeted to them along with daily
calls, emails both to the CS team along with the jeff bezos email address
that apparently excellates these issues, got in touch with the consumer
helpline only to end up with the same responses as Udit here.
 Now I could have taken them to consumer court, which is what you can do
too, udit. But decided not to in the end as I did not have the time or the
wherewithal to be doing, but it sure did leave a bad taste in my mouth with
the entire lot of them.
 When ordering anything these days, be it online or offline, in my case
it's like rolling a die and hoping that it lends on 6, each and every
bloody time.
 If you have read thus far, I thank you for reading, and hope you and yours
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> totally agree on that part. Of carma.
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Re: [AI] Looking for blind models

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hi there,
I have no experience in this. But I am willing to try. So, if I be
alloud to join. Please, tell your friend to connect me. Or you can
privately message me.

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Re: [AI] a strange and a bad experience with me on amazon.

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totally agree on that part. Of carma.

Thanks,
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RE: [AI] Introducing Meta AI Latest Feature of WhatsApp

[george.abraham0]

Yes. It is very handy.

 

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Of Harshit Lohia
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Subject: Re: [AI] Introducing Meta AI Latest Feature of WhatsApp

 






Is the said feature live on iPhone also? Thanks & Regards
Harshit Lohia

 

 

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your phone.
2. Start a Conversation: Open WhatsApp and type "Meta AI" in the search bar to 
find the chatbot, or select the conversation with “Message your assistant”.
3. Select Meta AI: Choose the Meta AI chatbot from the search results to begin 
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Re: [AI] Keystroke to move by landmarks in JAWS

[Saurav Hegde]

Hi,
Thank you for all the tips.
Coincidentally, I got NVDA update and now I am able to use it properly with
Excell so it can work with PDFs also, no longer require JAWS.
I might have forgotten to update NVDA.

Thanks,
Saurav
Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune


On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 1:35 PM Shankar C 
wrote:

> Firstly, jaws read as regions and n v d a reads as landmarks.
> letter r is used to navigate across the landmarks with jaws and if you
> want to pull up the list of landmarks available on the web page, hit
> incert ctrl plus letter r.
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 10:12 AM Amiyo Biswas 
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>> Is this point we get at by using y a landmark? Jaws says "glance".
>> Perhaps the letter r is a better option. I did not notice that Sourav uses
>> NVDA.
>>
>> This is just a question. I am not fully accustomed to the new updates.
>>
>>
>> With best regards,
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>> Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329
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>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Vikas Kapoor 
>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 18, 2024 7:49 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Keystroke to move by landmarks in JAWS
>>
>> Pressing letter Y on a webpage takes you to the next landmark.
>>
>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 07:40, Amiyo Biswas 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Earlier semicolon worked for navigating to landmarks. It does not work
>>> any more. Pressing q / r moves among regions. Press insert+h for a list of
>>> these navigation keys while you are on a web page.
>>>
>>> With best regards,
>>> Amiyo Biswas
>>> Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
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>>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 17, 2024 11:50 PM
>>> *Subject:* [AI] Keystroke to move by landmarks in JAWS
>>>
>>> Hi to the Access India group,
>>> I wanted to know that how do we navigate by landmarks in JAWS?
>>>
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RE: [AI] a strange and a bad experience with me on amazon.

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Udit,

Very sorry to hear about your experience. We also had a similar thing happen 
when we bought courtains and received rubbish in the packaging. We sent it back 
and did not get refund till today.

The lesson I learnt from this is that whenever the delivery guy comes, start 
recording video: which must show you collecting the package, opening it, and 
displaying the contents all in one disconnected video. There’s no other way to 
protect ourselves. Like you, I lost money. In my case it was 8000 rupees. And 
there’s nothing we can do but be very careful next time so that it must not 
happen again to us. Sad to say but it seems we just burnt off some bad Karma, 
both you and I. Or may be not such a bad thing because that bit of bad karma is 
now paid up!

 

Kind regards

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

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Behalf Of UDIT Pandey
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2024 3:46 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] a strange and a bad experience with me on amazon.

 

hi all,

just today. I got this from national consoomer helpline.

the rezult as follows.

Company Remark :
Dear Sir, Based on your complaint and on investigation with the internal teams, 
we find that the correct and complete product ordered by you was delivered to 
you as on June 15,2024 in intact condition. Accordingly, neither replacement 
order nor refund can be initiated. Further, it is submitted that our role is 
limited to that of an intermediary and we are not the seller/manufacturer, the 
products listed on our e-commerce marketplace are sold by independent 
third-party sellers. In view of the above, the issue stands closed. Thank You.

Remark Date  2024-07-17 19:49:46
Status :   Closed

now, what to do next?

 

thanks,

Udit

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Re: [AI] Looking for blind models

[voice Connection]

Hi there

I am Resham a visually impaired singer and model I would like to audition
for this and would like to know about the details  of the brand

Thanks
Thanks & Regards

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On Thu, 18 Jul 2024, 16:53 Naresh Kumar,  wrote:

> I have done it for Uber, ECI etc.
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Re: [AI] Introducing Meta AI Latest Feature of WhatsApp

[Ram Singh]

Yes.
First, open the app and navigate to the top section. You'll encounter a
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Re: [AI] Introducing Meta AI Latest Feature of WhatsApp

[Harshit Lohia]

Is the said feature live on iPhone also? Thanks & Regards
Harshit Lohia


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Re: [AI] Looking for blind models

[Yusuf Balapariya]

Hello this is me Yusuf from Mumbai
Some of my friend have acted in Srikanth movie so I can connect you with
them just to private message to me


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> I have done it for Uber, ECI etc.
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Re: [AI] Help needed in getting UDID

[Meesha Arora]

Thanks Amiyo, I was not aware it takes such a long time.
Just wondering if it’s the same process for Delhi NCR?

Regards,
Meesha


On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 1:34 PM, Amiyo Biswas  wrote:

> Normally it takes months to complete the process in west bengal. Keep
> checking your status from time to time. The matter will be referred to some
> hospital, in most cases, the hospital you chose during application. Once
> referral is displayed, you may contact the hospital.
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> *To:* AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
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> *Sent:* Thursday, July 18, 2024 1:23 PM
> *Subject:* [AI] Help needed in getting UDID
>
>
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> Dear Members,
> I have disability certificate from AIIMS, New Delhi and I am trying to get
> UDID for myself. I have filled the online application for the UDID however
> even after almost a month there is no update in the status of my
> application.
> Can someone guide me please if I should do something additional to receive
> my UDID.
> Or if there some other effective process to get UDID issued like if there
> is an office I need to follow up with?
>
> --
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Re: [AI] a strange and a bad experience with me on amazon.

[UDIT Pandey]

hi all,
just today. I got this from national consoomer helpline.
the rezult as follows.
Company Remark :
Dear Sir, Based on your complaint and on investigation with the internal
teams, we find that the correct and complete product ordered by you was
delivered to you as on June 15,2024 in intact condition. Accordingly,
neither replacement order nor refund can be initiated. Further, it is
submitted that our role is limited to that of an intermediary and we are
not the seller/manufacturer, the products listed on our e-commerce
marketplace are sold by independent third-party sellers. In view of the
above, the issue stands closed. Thank You.

Remark Date  2024-07-17 19:49:46
Status :   Closed
now, what to do next?

thanks,
Udit

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Re: [AI] have observed a very strainge thing with MS edge on windows 11 with latest vertion of nvda.

[UDIT Pandey]

hi,
this problem, it comes automatically. And fixes itself.
Thanks,
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Re: [AI] Looking for blind models

[Naresh Kumar]

I have done it for Uber, ECI etc.

On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 5:21 AM Pranav Lal  wrote:

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> An acquaintance is looking for blind models for a clothing brand he is
> launching. Do we have any on the list?
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> Pranav
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Re: [AI] IRCTC Issues

[Shankar C]

I may not be able to answer your query, but I wish to recommend using a web
platform to book the train using n v d a and microsoft edge.

On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 9:17 AM sagar Verma 
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> The issues are on the Android platform when using the IRCTC app.
> Additionally, the iOS app is not even accessible.
> How can I get a booked, confirmed ticket without a waiting ticket? The
> IRCTC application, Indian Railway Connect, is problematic. While it's
> usable, issues arise during payment after entering the OTP for the UPI
> option. Many buttons are poorly ordered and not properly labeled. Even when
> I manage, the session often times out, debiting the payment without booking
> the ticket. I'm really sick of this waiting system in Indian Railway and
> seek a refined solution for these issues.
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Re: [AI] Keystroke to move by landmarks in JAWS

[Shankar C]

Firstly, jaws read as regions and n v d a reads as landmarks.
letter r is used to navigate across the landmarks with jaws and if you want
to pull up the list of landmarks available on the web page, hit incert ctrl
plus letter r.


On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 10:12 AM Amiyo Biswas 
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> Is this point we get at by using y a landmark? Jaws says "glance". Perhaps
> the letter r is a better option. I did not notice that Sourav uses NVDA.
>
> This is just a question. I am not fully accustomed to the new updates.
>
>
> With best regards,
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> Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Vikas Kapoor 
> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 18, 2024 7:49 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Keystroke to move by landmarks in JAWS
>
> Pressing letter Y on a webpage takes you to the next landmark.
>
> On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 07:40, Amiyo Biswas  wrote:
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>> Earlier semicolon worked for navigating to landmarks. It does not work
>> any more. Pressing q / r moves among regions. Press insert+h for a list of
>> these navigation keys while you are on a web page.
>>
>> With best regards,
>> Amiyo Biswas
>> Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Saurav Hegde 
>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 17, 2024 11:50 PM
>> *Subject:* [AI] Keystroke to move by landmarks in JAWS
>>
>> Hi to the Access India group,
>> I wanted to know that how do we navigate by landmarks in JAWS?
>>
>> Best,
>> Saurav
>> Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune
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Re: [AI] have observed a very strainge thing with MS edge on windows 11 with latest vertion of nvda.

[Shankar C]

Hi there,
I don't face such issues on the microsoft edge as of now.
but you can troubleshoot this issue by going to the help section and check
for updates if any and see if it works.


On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 12:06 PM Ejaz Ahmed Shah 
wrote:

> I am not having these problems with Edge and NVDA.
> On 18/07/2024 01:11 am, UDIT Pandey wrote:
>
> hi all,
> I am using windows 11 home. Latest version. With the latest version of
> nvda. With the latest version of MS edge.
> The strange issue its that. Edge browser. Would start giving problems.
> I cannot compoze new emails on gmail. No matter what and how I try. Even
> with keyboard shortcuts.
> Same is for youtube. I cannot find the surch bar on youtube I have to
> manually click  on sirch to surch things.
> this problem would start all of a sudden. And would also fix automatically.
> I had a discussion about this with my friend. And he said that. Sometimes,
> there is a tiff between microsoft and google. So, they boath do that. Which
> is hardly to believe. Thats why I am getting this problem and when there
> arguments are fixed, the problem also gets fixed.
> I cannot believe it.
> So if there is any permanent solution of this problem. Please, help me.
> Thanks,
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Re: [AI] have observed a very strainge thing with MS edge on windows 11 with latest vertion of nvda.

[Ejaz Ahmed Shah]

I am not having these problems with Edge and NVDA.

On 18/07/2024 01:11 am, UDIT Pandey wrote:

hi all,
I am using windows 11 home. Latest version. With the latest version of 
nvda. With the latest version of MS edge.

The strange issue its that. Edge browser. Would start giving problems.
I cannot compoze new emails on gmail. No matter what and how I try. 
Even with keyboard shortcuts.
Same is for youtube. I cannot find the surch bar on youtube I have to 
manually click  on sirch to surch things.
this problem would start all of a sudden. And would also fix 
automatically.
I had a discussion about this with my friend. And he said that. 
Sometimes, there is a tiff between microsoft and google. So, they 
boath do that. Which is hardly to believe. Thats why I am getting this 
problem and when there arguments are fixed, the problem also gets fixed.

I cannot believe it.
So if there is any permanent solution of this problem. Please, help me.
Thanks,
Udit.
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Re: [AI] Regarding filing of 10IA for availing 80U in ITR filing.

[vivek doddamani]

Friend, we all are discussing the same problem there is no option of Blind
or ortho or hearing impaired, here I understand  one thing income tax
department never discussed with any doctors, NGOs or Department of
Disability before introducing this 10IA form, but if you keep on arguing
about blind or some other disability ITR filing last date will be over and
Rs.25000/ notice will be received by Income Tax Department.

On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 8:14 PM syed imran  wrote:

> The term "multiple disability" is not a true representation of my type of
> disability. The blind certificate issued by minto Eye hospital
> accurately assesses my visual condition as hundred percent blind in both
> the eyes, ending with a note saying that this condition is permanent. But
> here, in this form there is no mention of blind
>
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 7:32 AM Amiyo Biswas 
> wrote:
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>> I selected multiple disability as somebody on the list suggested.
>>
>> As regards the doctor's name, the certificate I downloaded from
>> https://www.swavlambancard.gov.in/home/login
>> does not contain any doctor's name. But I downloaded another version of
>> the same certificate from the state government's site which contains the
>> doctor's name and also the CMO's name. I uploaded this certificate.
>>
>> I found my UDID number in the place for certificate number in both
>> certificates. So inserted this number.
>>
>>
>> With best regards,
>> Amiyo Biswas
>> Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Pranaya Rani 
>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 2, 2024 7:18 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Regarding filing of 10IA for availing 80U in ITR
>> filing.
>>
>> Which disability type did you select? Because there is no mention of
>> blindness, so hence certificate cannot be filled up properly.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 2 Jul 2024, at 4:25 PM, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Please note that nowhere it is mentioned exclusively the UDID card or
>> UDID number, what they want is a simple medical certificate. Although I
>> wasn't required to fill up this form, I did fill up just to have an
>> experience. Most of the fields you can access by turning off the virtual
>> cursor.
>>
>> On Tue, 2 Jul 2024 at 10:34, P Subramani  wrote:
>>
>>> In my case, the certificate or UD ID card is issued from Minto Hospital
>>> Bangalore. When I open Dr diagnostic sheet. It is written only the
>>> designation of the doctor that is chief medical officer, but there is no
>>> name of the doctor so we again we are finding the same problem. Some
>>> places, doctor name is at most places. Doctor name is not available.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 1 Jul 2024, at 8:22 PM, vivek doddamani  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> You have to log into swavalamban.gov.in with you or mobile number and
>>> date of birth as password when you go inside the Swavalamban  portal there
>>> you will find one link doctor diagnostic sheet when you open that sheet the
>>> doctor name and hospital name is written you can download and save it for
>>> future
>>>
>>> On Mon, 1 Jul, 2024, 3:42 pm ishan sangi,  wrote:
>>>
>>>> How to find the name of the doctor and the authority who issued udid
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2024, 3:15 PM vivek doddamani 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes now it is mandatory UDID number and UDID medical certificate is
>>>>> must if you want to avail 80U & 80DD in filing ITR.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 2:22 PM gufran ahmed <
>>>>> gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it mandatory to have a unique disability identity card in order to
>>>>>> file form 10EA?
>>>>>> As I do not possess unique disability card as of now
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 1, 2024, at 12:41 PM, george.abrah...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is complicating. They want the UDID no. and also the name of the
>>>>>> doctor signing the medical certificate and the name of the hospital. I
>>>>>> thought all this data would be available to them once they feed in the 
>>>>>> UDID
>>>>>> number. This is ridiculous and unnecessary. Not sure if most of us have
>>>>>> acc

Re: [AI] Keystroke to move by landmarks in JAWS

[Amiyo Biswas]

Is this point we get at by using y a landmark? Jaws says "glance". Perhaps the 
letter r is a better option. I did not notice that Sourav uses NVDA.

This is just a question. I am not fully accustomed to the new updates.


With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329

  - Original Message - 
  From: Vikas Kapoor 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2024 7:49 AM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Keystroke to move by landmarks in JAWS


  Pressing letter Y on a webpage takes you to the next landmark.


  On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 07:40, Amiyo Biswas  wrote:

Earlier semicolon worked for navigating to landmarks. It does not work any 
more. Pressing q / r moves among regions. Press insert+h for a list of these 
navigation keys while you are on a web page.

With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329

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  From: Saurav Hegde 
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  Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2024 11:50 PM
  Subject: [AI] Keystroke to move by landmarks in JAWS


  Hi to the Access India group, 
  I wanted to know that how do we navigate by landmarks in JAWS?


  Best,
  Saurav

  Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune

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Re: [AI] Keystroke to move by landmarks in JAWS

[Saurav Hegde]

Hi,
Thanks for the suggestions.
I am trying to navigate through a PDF.
With NVDA it is very easy as I can navigate using landmarks, it goes ahead
page wise.
I want JAWS because I want to use Excell as well and NVDA is not working
properly with Excell.
It doesn't allow me to link cells in a formula making the process very slow.
THE PDF has no regions for navigating.
Any work around?

Best,
Saurav
Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune


On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 7:40 AM Amiyo Biswas  wrote:

> Earlier semicolon worked for navigating to landmarks. It does not work any
> more. Pressing q / r moves among regions. Press insert+h for a list of
> these navigation keys while you are on a web page.
>
> With best regards,
> Amiyo Biswas
> Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Saurav Hegde 
> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 17, 2024 11:50 PM
> *Subject:* [AI] Keystroke to move by landmarks in JAWS
>
> Hi to the Access India group,
> I wanted to know that how do we navigate by landmarks in JAWS?
>
> Best,
> Saurav
> Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune
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Re: [AI] Looking for blind models

[Neeraj India]

Hi. I can connect  them with my brother. He runs his YouTube channel and
Instagram. Connect with me on: +91-637-856-1005.
Thanks
Best regards.
Neeraj


On Thu, Jul 18, 2024, 07:53 Nidhi Mishra  wrote:

> Hello Pranav.
> I came across this email today. Actually, i have been part of some of the
> commercials projects including a recent one by META. You can connect with
> me if you are still looking for a model .
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On 16 Jul 2024, at 5:21 AM, Pranav Lal  wrote:
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> > Hi all,
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> > An acquaintance is looking for blind models for a clothing brand he is
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