[AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official
It is here! We released 13.2 this morning officially. Come to our forum to discuss anything about it. http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2-Now-Avaialable/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Download the software from the usual place on our support site: https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450/ Thanks to all of you that Beta tested this software with us, and helped to make it stronger and better than ever. Now that this is here, we’re hard at work on delivering the next round of enhancements (code name 13.3 (pretty original, huh?)) which are right around the corner. The momentum is building on the PMP 450 platform. Thanks again, Matt
Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official
Sweet! — Sent from Mailbox On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Matt Mangriotis via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It is here! We released 13.2 this morning officially. Come to our forum to discuss anything about it. http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2-Now-Avaialable/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Download the software from the usual place on our support site: https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450/ Thanks to all of you that Beta tested this software with us, and helped to make it stronger and better than ever. Now that this is here, we’re hard at work on delivering the next round of enhancements (code name 13.3 (pretty original, huh?)) which are right around the corner. The momentum is building on the PMP 450 platform. Thanks again, Matt
Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official
When will we see it for PMP100 series? On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Matt Mangriotis via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It is here! We released 13.2 this morning officially. Come to our forum to discuss anything about it. http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2-Now-Avaialable/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Download the software from the usual place on our support site: https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450/ Thanks to all of you that Beta tested this software with us, and helped to make it stronger and better than ever. Now that this is here, we’re hard at work on delivering the next round of enhancements (code name 13.3 (pretty original, huh?)) which are right around the corner. The momentum is building on the PMP 450 platform. Thanks again, Matt
Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again
How helpful has the OTARD rule been for you at multi-tenant buildings? My understanding is the roof and outside walls can be considered common areas, so basically you are talking about balconies. Often these buildings are in rows the same height so the only practical place to get LOS to a tower is the roof. Even satellite TV is a problem for people on the north side of buildings. From: Sean Heskett via Af Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 10:22 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again if the county has rules that go against OTARD then they are breaking federal law too. just instal per the OTARD rules and you have nothing to worry about. if they give you flack then direct them to this website http://www.fcc.gov/guides/over-air-reception-devices-rule and tell them to pound sand or contact the FCC if they think you are operating outside the OTARD rules. done and done. i've been doing this for 15 years now and we have always won once we send them that link. they realize the have no leg to stand on and the back down. usually you can get them to rewrite their unlawful rules. -sean On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: The county could have restrictive regulations as well. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 10:16:30 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again i have never gotten an attorney (that i was paying or my client was paying) involved. the HOAs have wasted their money on attorneys only to be told by their attorneys that they should stop breaking federal law. the county has nothing to do with HOAs or federal law. HOAs are corporations set up under state law. OTARD is a federal law passed by congress that the FCC enforces. if you want to waste your time and talk to someone at the county level by all means knock yourself out but i have better things to do and the county has **NO** jurisdiction what so ever over the matter. 2 cents On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: The county needs to be educated anyway and redirecting them to the county sure is a lot cheaper than getting an attorney involved. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 9:10:18 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again There is no need for that. The OTARD rules have a section that instructs entities on how to Petition the fcc for a waiver etc. Just follow OTARD and don't back down. http://www.fcc.gov/guides/over-air-reception-devices-rule On Wednesday, November 12, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Maybe a good approach is to educate the county, then if the association argues, send them to the county. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Douglas A. via Af Hass af@afmug.com To: Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com Sent: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 10:10:40 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again An attorney letter isn't the first option. And recommending a meeting isn't good either, as you suggest. There are a world of options, none which involve losing a potential customer or delaying an install. -- Original message -- From: Ken Hohhof via Af Date: 11/12/2014 10:06 AM To: af@afmug.com; Subject:Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again Understood. It’s the letter, not the lawsuit, that does the work. Oh crap, we got a letter from his lawyer, can we just settle this? Just like with Title II regulation, it’s the paperwork, not the actual rules, that would kill us. From a practical standpoint though, many people decide one day to search for Internet service, and start calling around. You may have been sending out flyers for months, but this is your tiny window of opportunity to sell them your service. The window may just be a few hours, we’ve all had the case where you return voicemail in 30 minutes and the customer already ordered from the next ISP they called and signed a 2 year contract, so you lost the sale. So I think the answer “let me meet with the landlord or HOA or city and tell them about OTARD” is not going to be a successful sales technique except in a few situations like: - You are truly the only game in town - There is a large potential customer base that you can open up going forward by overcoming one obstacle now (like a subdivision or apartment
Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official
I remember hearing something about 13.1.3 being the last update for FSK.. could be wrong though Vlad On 11/13/2014 8:22 AM, Matt via Af wrote: When will we see it for PMP100 series? On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Matt Mangriotis via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It is here! We released 13.2 this morning officially. Come to our forum to discuss anything about it. http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2-Now-Avaialable/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Download the software from the usual place on our support site: https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450/ Thanks to all of you that Beta tested this software with us, and helped to make it stronger and better than ever. Now that this is here, we’re hard at work on delivering the next round of enhancements (code name 13.3 (pretty original, huh?)) which are right around the corner. The momentum is building on the PMP 450 platform. Thanks again, Matt --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [AFMUG] Phantom Default Plug?
Anyone know the component to replace to fix this? Have replaced ethernet controller chips and diodes on P9 units. On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:07 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I had one do that, Paul at PDMNet said it was a hardware problem and apparently somewhat common, I sent it in and they fixed it. It was a pretty old SM and I thought it was just crud or water in the jack or on the PCB but I cleaned it up really good with alcohol with no success. From: Steve D via Af Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 9:02 PM To: af Subject: [AFMUG] Phantom Default Plug? I know I've seen this before, but just had an FSK 2.4 SM do this to me - real bugger too because it was the last in my truck while I was out doing a site test. Any ideas what caused it or how to fix it? I think I was in the process of changing color codes when it happened. It's just my truck test unit running 11.2 firmware. Going to 13.1.3 didn't fix, nor did going back to 10.5. Put in a real default plug and reset to defaults too. -Steve D
Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official
I remember hearing something about 13.1.3 being the last update for FSK.. could be wrong though N. There not going to fix frequency select 'none'? Vlad On 11/13/2014 8:22 AM, Matt via Af wrote: When will we see it for PMP100 series? On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Matt Mangriotis via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It is here! We released 13.2 this morning officially. Come to our forum to discuss anything about it. http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2-Now-Avaialable/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Download the software from the usual place on our support site: https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450/ Thanks to all of you that Beta tested this software with us, and helped to make it stronger and better than ever. Now that this is here, we’re hard at work on delivering the next round of enhancements (code name 13.3 (pretty original, huh?)) which are right around the corner. The momentum is building on the PMP 450 platform. Thanks again, Matt --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [AFMUG] this
Can you purchase them warning signs? Some tower sites we are on also have civil defense communications systems. On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:33 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: http://coldwar-ct.com/Home_Page_S1DO.html -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] this
Tessco has them I think Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 13, 2014 9:32 AM, Matt via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Can you purchase them warning signs? Some tower sites we are on also have civil defense communications systems. On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:33 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: http://coldwar-ct.com/Home_Page_S1DO.html -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official
Come discuss this at the community site: http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2-Now-Available/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Many more of our engineering team will contribute responses, etc. over there... -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official I remember hearing something about 13.1.3 being the last update for FSK.. could be wrong though N. There not going to fix frequency select 'none'? Vlad On 11/13/2014 8:22 AM, Matt via Af wrote: When will we see it for PMP100 series? On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Matt Mangriotis via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It is here! We released 13.2 this morning officially. Come to our forum to discuss anything about it. http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2- Now-Avaialable/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Download the software from the usual place on our support site: https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450/ Thanks to all of you that Beta tested this software with us, and helped to make it stronger and better than ever. Now that this is here, we’re hard at work on delivering the next round of enhancements (code name 13.3 (pretty original, huh?)) which are right around the corner. The momentum is building on the PMP 450 platform. Thanks again, Matt --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official
The fall of AFMUG... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Matt Mangriotis via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:39:17 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official Come discuss this at the community site: http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2-Now-Available/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Many more of our engineering team will contribute responses, etc. over there... -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official I remember hearing something about 13.1.3 being the last update for FSK.. could be wrong though N. There not going to fix frequency select 'none'? Vlad On 11/13/2014 8:22 AM, Matt via Af wrote: When will we see it for PMP100 series? On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Matt Mangriotis via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It is here! We released 13.2 this morning officially. Come to our forum to discuss anything about it. http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2- Now-Avaialable/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Download the software from the usual place on our support site: https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450/ Thanks to all of you that Beta tested this software with us, and helped to make it stronger and better than ever. Now that this is here, we’re hard at work on delivering the next round of enhancements (code name 13.3 (pretty original, huh?)) which are right around the corner. The momentum is building on the PMP 450 platform. Thanks again, Matt --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [AFMUG] Off I go
I am so confused From: Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 7:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Off I go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqZ2sEOe5K0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKnclFxWLWg - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 8:03:32 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Off I go We have WiFi out here via DSL ...no cell service...I will set up booster tomorrow...we worked all afternoon setting up solar panels and battery enclosureWait till you guys see the pictures of the game room,,,here is one coming down from mesa Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I will share pics as I take them when I have service. ..approaching Van Horn.. Jaime Solorza On Nov 12, 2014 10:46 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Sounds like a fun trip. From: Jaime Solorza via Af Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 8:23 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Off I go reference 11-12-Web-Marfa Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 8:16 AM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Good morning boys and gals: I am off to the mountains near Marfa and Big Bend country again. I will have cell coverage into Marfa and then nada. I am taking my Shireen cell amp to test from where we install the solar system and two way repeater. Looks tough but might be able to skip or bounce.. Cya Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again
I tried that, it didn’t work. There is enough leeway in the current OTARD rule to exempt public areas. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:44 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again Just use the magic phrase “ preempted by federal law” From: Sean Heskett via Af mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 9:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again i have never gotten an attorney (that i was paying or my client was paying) involved. the HOAs have wasted their money on attorneys only to be told by their attorneys that they should stop breaking federal law. the county has nothing to do with HOAs or federal law. HOAs are corporations set up under state law. OTARD is a federal law passed by congress that the FCC enforces. if you want to waste your time and talk to someone at the county level by all means knock yourself out but i have better things to do and the county has **NO** jurisdiction what so ever over the matter. 2 cents On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: The county needs to be educated anyway and redirecting them to the county sure is a lot cheaper than getting an attorney involved. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 9:10:18 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again There is no need for that. The OTARD rules have a section that instructs entities on how to Petition the fcc for a waiver etc. Just follow OTARD and don't back down. http://www.fcc.gov/guides/over-air-reception-devices-rule On Wednesday, November 12, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Maybe a good approach is to educate the county, then if the association argues, send them to the county. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Douglas A. via Af Hass af@afmug.com To: Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com Sent: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 10:10:40 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again An attorney letter isn't the first option. And recommending a meeting isn't good either, as you suggest. There are a world of options, none which involve losing a potential customer or delaying an install. -- Original message -- From: Ken Hohhof via Af Date: 11/12/2014 10:06 AM To: af@afmug.com; Subject:Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again Understood. It’s the letter, not the lawsuit, that does the work. Oh crap, we got a letter from his lawyer, can we just settle this? Just like with Title II regulation, it’s the paperwork, not the actual rules, that would kill us. From a practical standpoint though, many people decide one day to search for Internet service, and start calling around. You may have been sending out flyers for months, but this is your tiny window of opportunity to sell them your service. The window may just be a few hours, we’ve all had the case where you return voicemail in 30 minutes and the customer already ordered from the next ISP they called and signed a 2 year contract, so you lost the sale. So I think the answer “let me meet with the landlord or HOA or city and tell them about OTARD” is not going to be a successful sales technique except in a few situations like: - You are truly the only game in town - There is a large potential customer base that you can open up going forward by overcoming one obstacle now (like a subdivision or apartment complex or even a whole city) - This is a high value (commercial) customer and they are willing to wait a few weeks or months to get your service From: Hass, Douglas A. via Af mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 9:11 AM To: Rory Conaway via Af mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again Ken, The last thing I would advocate is for anyone to lawyer up against their neighbors. The overwhelming majority of these situations are resolved with only behind the scenes work by lawyers. There's a go softly way to do this. Rory, Depends on what exactly you mean by unreasonable. Again, some informed lobbying of the city often takes care of these issues. I've written (or rewritten) many ordinances and policies to help city attorneys get things right, as I'm sure Steve, Jonathan, Rebecca and many others have. -- Original message -- From: Rory Conaway via Af Date: 11/12/2014 9:00 AM To: af@afmug.com; Subject:Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again But what do you do when the city has unreasonable restrictions and the buildings are company
Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official
Sounds like we need to have a rumble, Cambium can be the jets, we will be the Sharks, we need to find some broad named Maria On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Users keeping it strong on AFMUG. Cambium keeps trying to pull people to this 1998 forum =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Craig Schmaderer via Af af@afmug.com wrote: n On Nov 13, 2014, at 8:40 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: The fall of AFMUG... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Matt Mangriotis via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:39:17 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official Come discuss this at the community site: http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2-Now-Available/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Many more of our engineering team will contribute responses, etc. over there... -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official I remember hearing something about 13.1.3 being the last update for FSK.. could be wrong though N. There not going to fix frequency select 'none'? Vlad On 11/13/2014 8:22 AM, Matt via Af wrote: When will we see it for PMP100 series? On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Matt Mangriotis via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It is here! We released 13.2 this morning officially. Come to our forum to discuss anything about it. http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2- Now-Avaialable/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Download the software from the usual place on our support site: https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450/ Thanks to all of you that Beta tested this software with us, and helped to make it stronger and better than ever. Now that this is here, we’re hard at work on delivering the next round of enhancements (code name 13.3 (pretty original, huh?)) which are right around the corner. The momentum is building on the PMP 450 platform. Thanks again, Matt --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official
Not trying to take away from conversation here at all… AFMUG will never die! Just saying that more of the Cambium employees will see the messages at our community, so if there’s something that requires more Cambium eyes, it might get you an answer sooner to discuss there… From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:09 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official Sounds like we need to have a rumble, Cambium can be the jets, we will be the Sharks, we need to find some broad named Maria On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Users keeping it strong on AFMUG. Cambium keeps trying to pull people to this 1998 forum =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Craig Schmaderer via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: n On Nov 13, 2014, at 8:40 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: The fall of AFMUG... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Matt Mangriotis via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:39:17 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official Come discuss this at the community site: http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2-Now-Available/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Many more of our engineering team will contribute responses, etc. over there... -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:30 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official I remember hearing something about 13.1.3 being the last update for FSK.. could be wrong though N. There not going to fix frequency select 'none'? Vlad On 11/13/2014 8:22 AM, Matt via Af wrote: When will we see it for PMP100 series? On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Matt Mangriotis via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: It is here! We released 13.2 this morning officially. Come to our forum to discuss anything about it. http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2- Now-Avaialable/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Download the software from the usual place on our support site: https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450/ Thanks to all of you that Beta tested this software with us, and helped to make it stronger and better than ever. Now that this is here, we’re hard at work on delivering the next round of enhancements (code name 13.3 (pretty original, huh?)) which are right around the corner. The momentum is building on the PMP 450 platform. Thanks again, Matt --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official
No, UBNT is the Sharks. We are... hmmm, I don’t want to be Maria or the old man at the soda shop we are the COPS! From: That One Guy via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:08 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official Sounds like we need to have a rumble, Cambium can be the jets, we will be the Sharks, we need to find some broad named Maria On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Users keeping it strong on AFMUG. Cambium keeps trying to pull people to this 1998 forum =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Craig Schmaderer via Af af@afmug.com wrote: n On Nov 13, 2014, at 8:40 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: The fall of AFMUG... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Matt Mangriotis via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:39:17 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official Come discuss this at the community site: http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2-Now-Available/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Many more of our engineering team will contribute responses, etc. over there... -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official I remember hearing something about 13.1.3 being the last update for FSK.. could be wrong though N. There not going to fix frequency select 'none'? Vlad On 11/13/2014 8:22 AM, Matt via Af wrote: When will we see it for PMP100 series? On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Matt Mangriotis via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It is here! We released 13.2 this morning officially. Come to our forum to discuss anything about it. http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2- Now-Avaialable/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Download the software from the usual place on our support site: https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450/ Thanks to all of you that Beta tested this software with us, and helped to make it stronger and better than ever. Now that this is here, we’re hard at work on delivering the next round of enhancements (code name 13.3 (pretty original, huh?)) which are right around the corner. The momentum is building on the PMP 450 platform. Thanks again, Matt --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official
OK, go over there and invite them all to the party over here. We have adult beverages over here... From: Matt Mangriotis via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:12 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official Not trying to take away from conversation here at all… AFMUG will never die! Just saying that more of the Cambium employees will see the messages at our community, so if there’s something that requires more Cambium eyes, it might get you an answer sooner to discuss there… From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:09 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official Sounds like we need to have a rumble, Cambium can be the jets, we will be the Sharks, we need to find some broad named Maria On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Users keeping it strong on AFMUG. Cambium keeps trying to pull people to this 1998 forum =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Craig Schmaderer via Af af@afmug.com wrote: n On Nov 13, 2014, at 8:40 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: The fall of AFMUG... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Matt Mangriotis via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:39:17 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official Come discuss this at the community site: http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2-Now-Available/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Many more of our engineering team will contribute responses, etc. over there... -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official I remember hearing something about 13.1.3 being the last update for FSK.. could be wrong though N. There not going to fix frequency select 'none'? Vlad On 11/13/2014 8:22 AM, Matt via Af wrote: When will we see it for PMP100 series? On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Matt Mangriotis via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It is here! We released 13.2 this morning officially. Come to our forum to discuss anything about it. http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2- Now-Avaialable/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Download the software from the usual place on our support site: https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450/ Thanks to all of you that Beta tested this software with us, and helped to make it stronger and better than ever. Now that this is here, we’re hard at work on delivering the next round of enhancements (code name 13.3 (pretty original, huh?)) which are right around the corner. The momentum is building on the PMP 450 platform. Thanks again, Matt --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official
can someone from Cambium confirm this ? Le 13/11/2014 15:27, Vlad Sedov via Af a écrit : I remember hearing something about 13.1.3 being the last update for FSK.. could be wrong though Vlad On 11/13/2014 8:22 AM, Matt via Af wrote: When will we see it for PMP100 series? On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Matt Mangriotis via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It is here! We released 13.2 this morning officially. Come to our forum to discuss anything about it. http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2-Now-Avaialable/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Download the software from the usual place on our support site: https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450/ Thanks to all of you that Beta tested this software with us, and helped to make it stronger and better than ever. Now that this is here, we’re hard at work on delivering the next round of enhancements (code name 13.3 (pretty original, huh?)) which are right around the corner. The momentum is building on the PMP 450 platform. Thanks again, Matt --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [AFMUG] Cost effective 10Gb switch
I’ll take a look into those as well. This is all strictly layer 2 with a few vlans for their phones video. Thanks again. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke via Af Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cost effective 10Gb switch If all you want is a great deal of layer-2-only, 24-port or 48-port SFP+ and a switch fabric, the Quanta switches which run Cumulus Linux (debian based) are a good option. There are about four different Taiwan-based manufacturers that build switches which run Cumulus. On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Robert Haas via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Any recommendations for a cost effective 10Gb switch? We have a local Elementary/High school district wanting to upgrade all of their fiber links to 10Gb. The kicker I’ve found is this central location has 6 connections. I can find switches with 4 SFP+/XFP ports easily. It seems like you crack the magic ‘4’ number and the prices start jumping pretty quick. I’d like to avoid stacking switches if possible but cost may dictate doing so. So does anyone know of a switch with 6 SFP+/XFP ports that’s not going to make the administrator have a stroke on me? Thanks, Robert Haas
Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again
Balcanies only or work a deal with the whole building. If their balcony doesn't face your tower then they are not in your coverage area...same as if they can't see your tower because of a wall of trees. Being in the mountains tho we usually have a view to a couple towers because the towers are up on the mountains and the MDUs are in the valley. Not always tho. On Thursday, November 13, 2014, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: How helpful has the OTARD rule been for you at multi-tenant buildings? My understanding is the roof and outside walls can be considered common areas, so basically you are talking about balconies. Often these buildings are in rows the same height so the only practical place to get LOS to a tower is the roof. Even satellite TV is a problem for people on the north side of buildings. *From:* Sean Heskett via Af javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Sent:* Wednesday, November 12, 2014 10:22 PM *To:* af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again if the county has rules that go against OTARD then they are breaking federal law too. just instal per the OTARD rules and you have nothing to worry about. if they give you flack then direct them to this website http://www.fcc.gov/guides/over-air-reception-devices-rule and tell them to pound sand or contact the FCC if they think you are operating outside the OTARD rules. done and done. i've been doing this for 15 years now and we have always won once we send them that link. they realize the have no leg to stand on and the back down. usually you can get them to rewrite their unlawful rules. -sean On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); wrote: The county could have restrictive regulations as well. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *To: *af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Sent: *Wednesday, November 12, 2014 10:16:30 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again i have never gotten an attorney (that i was paying or my client was paying) involved. the HOAs have wasted their money on attorneys only to be told by their attorneys that they should stop breaking federal law. the county has nothing to do with HOAs or federal law. HOAs are corporations set up under state law. OTARD is a federal law passed by congress that the FCC enforces. if you want to waste your time and talk to someone at the county level by all means knock yourself out but i have better things to do and the county has **NO** jurisdiction what so ever over the matter. 2 cents On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); wrote: The county needs to be educated anyway and redirecting them to the county sure is a lot cheaper than getting an attorney involved. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *To: *af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Sent: *Wednesday, November 12, 2014 9:10:18 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again There is no need for that. The OTARD rules have a section that instructs entities on how to Petition the fcc for a waiver etc. Just follow OTARD and don't back down. http://www.fcc.gov/guides/over-air-reception-devices-rule On Wednesday, November 12, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); wrote: Maybe a good approach is to educate the county, then if the association argues, send them to the county. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Douglas A. via Af Hass af@afmug.com To: Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com Sent: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 10:10:40 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again An attorney letter isn't the first option. And recommending a meeting isn't good either, as you suggest. There are a world of options, none which involve losing a potential customer or delaying an install. -- Original message -- From: Ken Hohhof via Af Date: 11/12/2014 10:06 AM To: af@afmug.com; Subject:Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again Understood. It’s the letter, not the lawsuit, that does the work. Oh
Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official
You could use Starwars characters or Star Trek characters as code names. Next up Wookiee. bp part-15@SkylineBroadbandService On 11/13/2014 5:12 AM, Matt Mangriotis via Af wrote: (code name 13.3 (pretty original, huh?))
Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official
Noticed this in the corrected list. Does this mean that the PMP450 is polarity agnostic now in all frequencies (specifically 5 GHz)? PMP 450 AP 22943 CPY-9983, CPY-9631 Fixed problem when AP/SM has crossed RF cables and would not register This problem has been resolved in System Release 13.2. bp part-15@SkylineBroadbandService On 11/13/2014 5:12 AM, Matt Mangriotis via Af wrote: It is here! We released 13.2 this morning officially. Come to our forum to discuss anything about it. http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2-Now-Avaialable/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Download the software from the usual place on our support site: https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450/ *Thanks*to all of you that Beta tested this software with us, and helped to make it stronger and better than ever. Now that this is here, we’re hard at work on delivering the next round of enhancements (code name 13.3 (pretty original, huh?)) which are right around the corner. The momentum is building on the PMP 450 platform. Thanks again, Matt
Re: [AFMUG] Phantom Default Plug?
Matt, There are actually lots of little chips around the CPU area that can cause this and a couple other parts that can as well. We actually have a proprietary workaround that works pretty universally to fix this, but I cant share that secret :) it involve no component swaps. Paul -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:28 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Phantom Default Plug? Anyone know the component to replace to fix this? Have replaced ethernet controller chips and diodes on P9 units. On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:07 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I had one do that, Paul at PDMNet said it was a hardware problem and apparently somewhat common, I sent it in and they fixed it. It was a pretty old SM and I thought it was just crud or water in the jack or on the PCB but I cleaned it up really good with alcohol with no success. From: Steve D via Af Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 9:02 PM To: af Subject: [AFMUG] Phantom Default Plug? I know I've seen this before, but just had an FSK 2.4 SM do this to me - real bugger too because it was the last in my truck while I was out doing a site test. Any ideas what caused it or how to fix it? I think I was in the process of changing color codes when it happened. It's just my truck test unit running 11.2 firmware. Going to 13.1.3 didn't fix, nor did going back to 10.5. Put in a real default plug and reset to defaults too. -Steve D
Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official
I’ll make a deal with you, the day you stop making me fill out the stupid form when I want to download a spec sheet, is the day that I will start to use your forum. And I am not joking. Please start the petition now by adding a +1 to this post. Craig R. Schmaderer CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc. Ph: 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058 Direct: 402-372-1052 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Mangriotis via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:12 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official Not trying to take away from conversation here at all… AFMUG will never die! Just saying that more of the Cambium employees will see the messages at our community, so if there’s something that requires more Cambium eyes, it might get you an answer sooner to discuss there… From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:09 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official Sounds like we need to have a rumble, Cambium can be the jets, we will be the Sharks, we need to find some broad named Maria On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Users keeping it strong on AFMUG. Cambium keeps trying to pull people to this 1998 forum =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Craig Schmaderer via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: n On Nov 13, 2014, at 8:40 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: The fall of AFMUG... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Matt Mangriotis via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:39:17 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official Come discuss this at the community site: http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2-Now-Available/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Many more of our engineering team will contribute responses, etc. over there... -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:30 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official I remember hearing something about 13.1.3 being the last update for FSK.. could be wrong though N. There not going to fix frequency select 'none'? Vlad On 11/13/2014 8:22 AM, Matt via Af wrote: When will we see it for PMP100 series? On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Matt Mangriotis via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: It is here! We released 13.2 this morning officially. Come to our forum to discuss anything about it. http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2- Now-Avaialable/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Download the software from the usual place on our support site: https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450/ Thanks to all of you that Beta tested this software with us, and helped to make it stronger and better than ever. Now that this is here, we’re hard at work on delivering the next round of enhancements (code name 13.3 (pretty original, huh?)) which are right around the corner. The momentum is building on the PMP 450 platform. Thanks again, Matt --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] 5.1 PMP rules
So, to get maximum throughput on a 30mhz channel, it would be required to lock down all but the last two channels to avoid the backoff requirement? Is there a way to leave DSO on, with all channels available, but set a preference to the last 2, given that unless the first sets of channels are busy, they will sit on the lower, with the backoff requirement, impeding the throughput On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Bruce Collins via Af af@afmug.com wrote: The short answer is that PTP 650 does support 5.15 GHz. To access 5.15GHz you will need to be on release 01-21 and then go to the support website to add 5.1GHz license key (no charge). Because of the out-of-band emissions requirements there are automatic backoffs in power on the band edges of the 5.15GHz channels. Below are all the details on the implementation of 5.15GHz FCC band on the PTP 650. Let me know if you have further questions. Regards, Bruce Product Manager Cambium Networks 1. The grant covers the PTP 650, PTP 650S and PTP 650L 2. The band is only applicable to FCC radios used in the U.S. and U.S. territories. 3. Existing customers will need to go the license manager page on the support website to update their license key adding 5.15 GHz (at no charge) 4. The UNII-1 band officially covers 5.15 GHz to 5.25 GHz at a maximum of 53dBm EIRP and does not required DFS for radar avoidance. HOWEVER, it does have very stringent out-of-band emissions requirements which make the maximum EIRP unlikely to be met by any commercial products. 5. The out of band emissions requirements and the fact that UNII-1 band is adjacent to the 5.2GHz band that does require radar avoidance means that each product approved under UNII-1 will have different capabilities. LINKPlanner has been updated to take these rules into account if you plan a link in the UNII-1 band with the PTP 650. 6. The PTP 650 supports the following EIRP levels dependent on channel bandwidth. G stands for the gain of the antenna with maximum antenna gain of 23dBi. a. 5MHz: 33 – G dBm (so for example, with the integrated 23dBm antenna the max tx power is 33dBm – 23dBi = 10dBm) b. 10MHz: 31 – G dBm c. 15MHz: 37 – G dBm d. 20MHz: 36 – G dBm e. 30MHz: 35 – G dBm f.40MHz: 30 – G dBm g. 45MHz: 30 – G dBm 7. Further there are band edge back-offs shown below: 8. *Channel** Bandwidth* *Channel Frequency* *Backoff* 5 MHz Below 5158.0 MHz 7 dB 5158 to 5200 MHz 3 dB Above 5200.0 MHz 0 dB 10 MHz Below 5164.0 MHz 8 dB 5164.0 MHz and above 0 dB 15 MHz Below 5170.0 MHz 14 dB 5170 to 5181 MHz 6 dB Above 5181.0 MHz 0 dB 20 MHz Below 5175.0 MHz 13 dB 5175 to 5187 MHz 6 dB Above 5187.0 MHz 0 dB 30 MHz Below 5187.0 MHz 11 dB 5187 to 5200 MHz 5 dB Above 5208.0 MHz 0 dB 40 MHz Below 5200.0 MHz 6 dB 5200.0 MHz and above 0 dB 45 MHz Below 5205.0 MHz 7 dB 5205.0 MHz and above 0 dB *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy via Af *Sent:* Wednesday, November 12, 2014 4:53 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5.1 PMP rules im on 1-21 it only has the option for 5.2 .54 and 5.8 in the GUI, maybe im missing something Does anyone have a link to an accurate up to date cheatsheet for the entire 5ghz band and its subsets? On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I'm pretty sure I got an email from Cambium awhile back saying it did... yeah, here it is... looks like it needs a license key to enable it. http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/pressreleases/2014/07/28/cambium-networks-ptp-650-receives-fcc-grant-to-operate-in-5150-to-5250-mhz -- *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of That One Guy via Af [ af@afmug.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 12, 2014 4:36 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5.1 PMP rules crud, 650 doesnt do 5.1, that is disappointing On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:34 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: cambium linkplanner is locking it at 36 on ptp I havent looked on the ptp650 to see if its locked Man i hope somebody can provide some evidence that it can go up to 53, that would get a pretty big load of my back right now On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com wrote: That's definitely not right... maybe you have numbers from the old 5150-5250 rules? PtMP is 36dBm EIRP, and PtP is 53dBm EIRP - however, because of the OOBE stuff, I'm not aware of anything that can actually do 53dBm. Ubiquiti stuff is all limited to 36dBm, ePMP lets me set the Tx power up to 20dBm with the antenna size set to 30dBi (in PtP mode). -- *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of That One Guy via Af [
Re: [AFMUG] Phantom Default Plug?
Dang, I think I just threw out 3 or 4 AP's that were stuck in default mode because I didn't think they were repairable. Is your workaround a new fix? On 11/13/2014 10:13 AM, Paul McCall via Af wrote: Matt, There are actually lots of little chips around the CPU area that can cause this and a couple other parts that can as well. We actually have a proprietary workaround that works pretty universally to fix this, but I cant share that secret :) it involve no component swaps. Paul -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:28 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Phantom Default Plug? Anyone know the component to replace to fix this? Have replaced ethernet controller chips and diodes on P9 units. On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:07 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I had one do that, Paul at PDMNet said it was a hardware problem and apparently somewhat common, I sent it in and they fixed it. It was a pretty old SM and I thought it was just crud or water in the jack or on the PCB but I cleaned it up really good with alcohol with no success. From: Steve D via Af Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 9:02 PM To: af Subject: [AFMUG] Phantom Default Plug? I know I've seen this before, but just had an FSK 2.4 SM do this to me - real bugger too because it was the last in my truck while I was out doing a site test. Any ideas what caused it or how to fix it? I think I was in the process of changing color codes when it happened. It's just my truck test unit running 11.2 firmware. Going to 13.1.3 didn't fix, nor did going back to 10.5. Put in a real default plug and reset to defaults too. -Steve D
Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official
+∞ On Nov 13, 2014, at 9:15 AM, Craig Schmaderer via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I’ll make a deal with you, the day you stop making me fill out the stupid form when I want to download a spec sheet, is the day that I will start to use your forum. And I am not joking. Please start the petition now by adding a +1 to this post. Craig R. Schmaderer CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc. Ph: 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058 Direct: 402-372-1052 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Mangriotis via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:12 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official Not trying to take away from conversation here at all… AFMUG will never die! Just saying that more of the Cambium employees will see the messages at our community, so if there’s something that requires more Cambium eyes, it might get you an answer sooner to discuss there… From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:09 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official Sounds like we need to have a rumble, Cambium can be the jets, we will be the Sharks, we need to find some broad named Maria On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Users keeping it strong on AFMUG. Cambium keeps trying to pull people to this 1998 forum =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Craig Schmaderer via Af af@afmug.com wrote: n On Nov 13, 2014, at 8:40 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: The fall of AFMUG... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Matt Mangriotis via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:39:17 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official Come discuss this at the community site: http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2-Now-Available/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Many more of our engineering team will contribute responses, etc. over there... -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official I remember hearing something about 13.1.3 being the last update for FSK.. could be wrong though N. There not going to fix frequency select 'none'? Vlad On 11/13/2014 8:22 AM, Matt via Af wrote: When will we see it for PMP100 series? On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Matt Mangriotis via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It is here! We released 13.2 this morning officially. Come to our forum to discuss anything about it. http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2- Now-Avaialable/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Download the software from the usual place on our support site: https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450/ Thanks to all of you that Beta tested this software with us, and helped to make it stronger and better than ever. Now that this is here, we’re hard at work on delivering the next round of enhancements (code name 13.3 (pretty original, huh?)) which are right around the corner. The momentum is building on the PMP 450 platform. Thanks again, Matt --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official
+1 Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 11/13/2014 08:15 AM, Craig Schmaderer via Af wrote: I’ll make a deal with you, the day you stop making me fill out the stupid form when I want to download a spec sheet, is the day that I will start to use your forum. And I am not joking. Please start the petition now by adding a +1 to this post. /Craig R. Schmaderer/ /CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc./ /Ph: 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058/ /Direct: 402-372-1052/ *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Matt Mangriotis via Af *Sent:* Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:12 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official Not trying to take away from conversation here at all… AFMUG will never die! Just saying that more of the Cambium employees will see the messages at our community, so if there’s something that requires more Cambium eyes, it might get you an answer sooner to discuss there… *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy via Af *Sent:* Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:09 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official Sounds like we need to have a rumble, Cambium can be the jets, we will be the Sharks, we need to find some broad named Maria On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Users keeping it strong on AFMUG. Cambium keeps trying to pull people to this 1998 forum =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Craig Schmaderer via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: n On Nov 13, 2014, at 8:40 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: The fall of AFMUG... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL *From: *Matt Mangriotis via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:39:17 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official Come discuss this at the community site: http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2-Now-Available/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Many more of our engineering team will contribute responses, etc. over there... -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:30 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official I remember hearing something about 13.1.3 being the last update for FSK.. could be wrong though N. There not going to fix frequency select 'none'? Vlad On 11/13/2014 8:22 AM, Matt via Af wrote: When will we see it for PMP100 series? On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Matt Mangriotis via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: It is here! We released 13.2 this morning officially. Come to our forum to discuss anything about it. http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2- Now-Avaialable/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Download the software from the usual place on our support site: https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450/ Thanks to all of you that Beta tested this software with us, and helped to make it stronger and better than ever. Now that this is here, we’re hard at work on delivering the next round of enhancements (code name 13.3 (pretty original, huh?)) which are right around the corner. The momentum is building on the PMP 450 platform. Thanks again, Matt --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
[AFMUG] Pre announce PMP500?
Noticed this in the CNUT 4.6 supported device types list: PMP 400/430/500 Access Point (AP) PMP 400/430/500 Subscriber Module (SM) Did I miss the memo? -- bp part-15@SkylineBroadbandService
Re: [AFMUG] Phantom Default Plug?
ALWAYS send to Paul, if nothing else it gets you out of dealing with Ewaste On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Dang, I think I just threw out 3 or 4 AP's that were stuck in default mode because I didn't think they were repairable. Is your workaround a new fix? On 11/13/2014 10:13 AM, Paul McCall via Af wrote: Matt, There are actually lots of little chips around the CPU area that can cause this and a couple other parts that can as well. We actually have a proprietary workaround that works pretty universally to fix this, but I cant share that secret :) it involve no component swaps. Paul -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:28 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Phantom Default Plug? Anyone know the component to replace to fix this? Have replaced ethernet controller chips and diodes on P9 units. On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:07 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I had one do that, Paul at PDMNet said it was a hardware problem and apparently somewhat common, I sent it in and they fixed it. It was a pretty old SM and I thought it was just crud or water in the jack or on the PCB but I cleaned it up really good with alcohol with no success. From: Steve D via Af Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 9:02 PM To: af Subject: [AFMUG] Phantom Default Plug? I know I've seen this before, but just had an FSK 2.4 SM do this to me - real bugger too because it was the last in my truck while I was out doing a site test. Any ideas what caused it or how to fix it? I think I was in the process of changing color codes when it happened. It's just my truck test unit running 11.2 firmware. Going to 13.1.3 didn't fix, nor did going back to 10.5. Put in a real default plug and reset to defaults too. -Steve D -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official
Much of what goes on in the name of religion reminds me of Jets vs Sharks. Like how do you tell a Sunni from a Shiite so you can kill the right ones? There was an episode of the original Star Trek with two alien races at war, one black and white, the other white and black. Kirk and Spock can hardly tell them apart, to the amazement of the aliens. Guest star Frank Gorshin as one of the aliens. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_That_Be_Your_Last_Battlefield Maybe Sunnis and Shiites need to replace war with dance offs. And let Maria take off the burka. I guess current events also remind me of Blade Runner. ISIS has a long list of questions to determine Sunni or Shiite, that’s really lame when you want to exterminate certain people but you have to play 20 questions to figure out who to exterminate. Similar to the test in Blade Runner to determine who is a replicant. In 2019, humans had devolved and replicants had evolved to the point that it was difficult to tell them apart and perhaps pointless. From: Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:20 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official No, UBNT is the Sharks. We are... hmmm, I don’t want to be Maria or the old man at the soda shop we are the COPS! From: That One Guy via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:08 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official Sounds like we need to have a rumble, Cambium can be the jets, we will be the Sharks, we need to find some broad named Maria On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Users keeping it strong on AFMUG. Cambium keeps trying to pull people to this 1998 forum =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Craig Schmaderer via Af af@afmug.com wrote: n On Nov 13, 2014, at 8:40 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: The fall of AFMUG... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Matt Mangriotis via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:39:17 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official Come discuss this at the community site: http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2-Now-Available/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Many more of our engineering team will contribute responses, etc. over there... -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official I remember hearing something about 13.1.3 being the last update for FSK.. could be wrong though N. There not going to fix frequency select 'none'? Vlad On 11/13/2014 8:22 AM, Matt via Af wrote: When will we see it for PMP100 series? On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Matt Mangriotis via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It is here! We released 13.2 this morning officially. Come to our forum to discuss anything about it. http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2- Now-Avaialable/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Download the software from the usual place on our support site: https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450/ Thanks to all of you that Beta tested this software with us, and helped to make it stronger and better than ever. Now that this is here, we’re hard at work on delivering the next round of enhancements (code name 13.3 (pretty original, huh?)) which are right around the corner. The momentum is building on the PMP 450 platform. Thanks again, Matt --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again
Sigh. The closest thing we have to mountains are slag piles. From: Sean Heskett via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again Balcanies only or work a deal with the whole building. If their balcony doesn't face your tower then they are not in your coverage area...same as if they can't see your tower because of a wall of trees. Being in the mountains tho we usually have a view to a couple towers because the towers are up on the mountains and the MDUs are in the valley. Not always tho. On Thursday, November 13, 2014, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: How helpful has the OTARD rule been for you at multi-tenant buildings? My understanding is the roof and outside walls can be considered common areas, so basically you are talking about balconies. Often these buildings are in rows the same height so the only practical place to get LOS to a tower is the roof. Even satellite TV is a problem for people on the north side of buildings. From: Sean Heskett via Af Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 10:22 PM To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again if the county has rules that go against OTARD then they are breaking federal law too. just instal per the OTARD rules and you have nothing to worry about. if they give you flack then direct them to this website http://www.fcc.gov/guides/over-air-reception-devices-rule and tell them to pound sand or contact the FCC if they think you are operating outside the OTARD rules. done and done. i've been doing this for 15 years now and we have always won once we send them that link. they realize the have no leg to stand on and the back down. usually you can get them to rewrite their unlawful rules. -sean On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Mike Hammett via Af javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); wrote: The county could have restrictive regulations as well. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Sean Heskett via Af javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 10:16:30 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again i have never gotten an attorney (that i was paying or my client was paying) involved. the HOAs have wasted their money on attorneys only to be told by their attorneys that they should stop breaking federal law. the county has nothing to do with HOAs or federal law. HOAs are corporations set up under state law. OTARD is a federal law passed by congress that the FCC enforces. if you want to waste your time and talk to someone at the county level by all means knock yourself out but i have better things to do and the county has **NO** jurisdiction what so ever over the matter. 2 cents On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Mike Hammett via Af javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); wrote: The county needs to be educated anyway and redirecting them to the county sure is a lot cheaper than getting an attorney involved. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Sean Heskett via Af javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 9:10:18 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again There is no need for that. The OTARD rules have a section that instructs entities on how to Petition the fcc for a waiver etc. Just follow OTARD and don't back down. http://www.fcc.gov/guides/over-air-reception-devices-rule On Wednesday, November 12, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); wrote: Maybe a good approach is to educate the county, then if the association argues, send them to the county. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Douglas A. via Af Hass af@afmug.com To: Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com Sent: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 10:10:40 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again An attorney letter isn't the first option. And recommending a meeting isn't good either, as you suggest. There are a world of options, none which involve losing a potential customer or delaying an install. -- Original message -- From: Ken Hohhof via Af Date: 11/12/2014 10:06 AM To: af@afmug.com; Subject:Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again Understood. It’s the letter, not the lawsuit, that does the work. Oh crap, we got a
Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again
Wow, I never actually have read through that before, Im halfway through and its pretty clear, you can about do whatever the hell you want. We have lost alot of apartment customers at one particular complex because the landlord said no to the balcony mounts, maybe I should have read this before, and now that I know we can put up a 1 meter antenna, its on. But Im also very big on government not interfering, and this is a pretty big governmental intervention into something I cant quite grasp the reasoning behind. What is the history on this. How did this become the governments problem in the first place? On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Balcanies only or work a deal with the whole building. If their balcony doesn't face your tower then they are not in your coverage area...same as if they can't see your tower because of a wall of trees. Being in the mountains tho we usually have a view to a couple towers because the towers are up on the mountains and the MDUs are in the valley. Not always tho. On Thursday, November 13, 2014, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: How helpful has the OTARD rule been for you at multi-tenant buildings? My understanding is the roof and outside walls can be considered common areas, so basically you are talking about balconies. Often these buildings are in rows the same height so the only practical place to get LOS to a tower is the roof. Even satellite TV is a problem for people on the north side of buildings. *From:* Sean Heskett via Af *Sent:* Wednesday, November 12, 2014 10:22 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again if the county has rules that go against OTARD then they are breaking federal law too. just instal per the OTARD rules and you have nothing to worry about. if they give you flack then direct them to this website http://www.fcc.gov/guides/over-air-reception-devices-rule and tell them to pound sand or contact the FCC if they think you are operating outside the OTARD rules. done and done. i've been doing this for 15 years now and we have always won once we send them that link. they realize the have no leg to stand on and the back down. usually you can get them to rewrite their unlawful rules. -sean On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: The county could have restrictive regulations as well. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, November 12, 2014 10:16:30 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again i have never gotten an attorney (that i was paying or my client was paying) involved. the HOAs have wasted their money on attorneys only to be told by their attorneys that they should stop breaking federal law. the county has nothing to do with HOAs or federal law. HOAs are corporations set up under state law. OTARD is a federal law passed by congress that the FCC enforces. if you want to waste your time and talk to someone at the county level by all means knock yourself out but i have better things to do and the county has **NO** jurisdiction what so ever over the matter. 2 cents On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: The county needs to be educated anyway and redirecting them to the county sure is a lot cheaper than getting an attorney involved. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, November 12, 2014 9:10:18 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again There is no need for that. The OTARD rules have a section that instructs entities on how to Petition the fcc for a waiver etc. Just follow OTARD and don't back down. http://www.fcc.gov/guides/over-air-reception-devices-rule On Wednesday, November 12, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Maybe a good approach is to educate the county, then if the association argues, send them to the county. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Douglas A. via Af Hass af@afmug.com To: Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com Sent: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 10:10:40 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again An attorney letter isn't the first option. And recommending a meeting isn't good either, as you suggest. There are a world of options, none
Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again
There are always shades of gray. You can drive yourself nets deciding where you want to draw the line. But I guess that's the beauty of democracy. bp part-15@SkylineBroadbandService On 11/13/2014 8:46 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote: But Im also very big on government not interfering, and this is a pretty big governmental intervention into something I cant quite grasp the reasoning behind.
Re: [AFMUG] Pre announce PMP500?
I think the PMP500 is PMP400 based for the Euro 3.5 market. So Motorola did have a 3GHz solution all the way back then, but they didn't give two shits for US/CA 3650 even though we were begging for something for years. On 11/13/2014 10:31 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: Noticed this in the CNUT 4.6 supported device types list: PMP 400/430/500 Access Point (AP) PMP 400/430/500 Subscriber Module (SM) Did I miss the memo? -- bp part-15@SkylineBroadbandService
Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again
The history of OTARD dates back to the early days of digital satellite service (today it's dish and directv). What happened was the cable companies lost their monopoly hold when suddenly everyone could just put up a small 1' dish (instead of a 7' dish). The cable companies got cities and towns and HOAs to ban dishes so they could retain their monopoly hold on the market. After a few years congress intervened and had the fcc establish the OTARD rules to spur competition in the market. When the Internet came along and the same thing started to happen in our industry (and the satellite internet industry) the fcc extended the rules to cover internet reception too. Is it a government over reach into private property rights?...kind of. But it's also the government trying to make sure the market is somewhat a level playing field. Sean On Thursday, November 13, 2014, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Wow, I never actually have read through that before, Im halfway through and its pretty clear, you can about do whatever the hell you want. We have lost alot of apartment customers at one particular complex because the landlord said no to the balcony mounts, maybe I should have read this before, and now that I know we can put up a 1 meter antenna, its on. But Im also very big on government not interfering, and this is a pretty big governmental intervention into something I cant quite grasp the reasoning behind. What is the history on this. How did this become the governments problem in the first place? On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); wrote: Balcanies only or work a deal with the whole building. If their balcony doesn't face your tower then they are not in your coverage area...same as if they can't see your tower because of a wall of trees. Being in the mountains tho we usually have a view to a couple towers because the towers are up on the mountains and the MDUs are in the valley. Not always tho. On Thursday, November 13, 2014, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); wrote: How helpful has the OTARD rule been for you at multi-tenant buildings? My understanding is the roof and outside walls can be considered common areas, so basically you are talking about balconies. Often these buildings are in rows the same height so the only practical place to get LOS to a tower is the roof. Even satellite TV is a problem for people on the north side of buildings. *From:* Sean Heskett via Af *Sent:* Wednesday, November 12, 2014 10:22 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again if the county has rules that go against OTARD then they are breaking federal law too. just instal per the OTARD rules and you have nothing to worry about. if they give you flack then direct them to this website http://www.fcc.gov/guides/over-air-reception-devices-rule and tell them to pound sand or contact the FCC if they think you are operating outside the OTARD rules. done and done. i've been doing this for 15 years now and we have always won once we send them that link. they realize the have no leg to stand on and the back down. usually you can get them to rewrite their unlawful rules. -sean On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: The county could have restrictive regulations as well. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, November 12, 2014 10:16:30 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again i have never gotten an attorney (that i was paying or my client was paying) involved. the HOAs have wasted their money on attorneys only to be told by their attorneys that they should stop breaking federal law. the county has nothing to do with HOAs or federal law. HOAs are corporations set up under state law. OTARD is a federal law passed by congress that the FCC enforces. if you want to waste your time and talk to someone at the county level by all means knock yourself out but i have better things to do and the county has **NO** jurisdiction what so ever over the matter. 2 cents On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: The county needs to be educated anyway and redirecting them to the county sure is a lot cheaper than getting an attorney involved. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL
Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again
I view it more a move to allow free access to the space segment and RF spectrum. The satellite broadcasters pay big money to pour down RF upon our heads. We should be allowed to use it if we can view the right portion of the sky. Same for OTA TV. If you can receive it why should your landlord be allowed to prevent that from happening. The flip side is harming someone’s viewshed. OTARD comes down on the side of the citizen wanting to receive a signal. From: Sean Heskett via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 10:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again The history of OTARD dates back to the early days of digital satellite service (today it's dish and directv). What happened was the cable companies lost their monopoly hold when suddenly everyone could just put up a small 1' dish (instead of a 7' dish). The cable companies got cities and towns and HOAs to ban dishes so they could retain their monopoly hold on the market. After a few years congress intervened and had the fcc establish the OTARD rules to spur competition in the market. When the Internet came along and the same thing started to happen in our industry (and the satellite internet industry) the fcc extended the rules to cover internet reception too. Is it a government over reach into private property rights?...kind of. But it's also the government trying to make sure the market is somewhat a level playing field. Sean On Thursday, November 13, 2014, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Wow, I never actually have read through that before, Im halfway through and its pretty clear, you can about do whatever the hell you want. We have lost alot of apartment customers at one particular complex because the landlord said no to the balcony mounts, maybe I should have read this before, and now that I know we can put up a 1 meter antenna, its on. But Im also very big on government not interfering, and this is a pretty big governmental intervention into something I cant quite grasp the reasoning behind. What is the history on this. How did this become the governments problem in the first place? On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Sean Heskett via Af javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); wrote: Balcanies only or work a deal with the whole building. If their balcony doesn't face your tower then they are not in your coverage area...same as if they can't see your tower because of a wall of trees. Being in the mountains tho we usually have a view to a couple towers because the towers are up on the mountains and the MDUs are in the valley. Not always tho. On Thursday, November 13, 2014, Ken Hohhof via Af javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); wrote: How helpful has the OTARD rule been for you at multi-tenant buildings? My understanding is the roof and outside walls can be considered common areas, so basically you are talking about balconies. Often these buildings are in rows the same height so the only practical place to get LOS to a tower is the roof. Even satellite TV is a problem for people on the north side of buildings. From: Sean Heskett via Af Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 10:22 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again if the county has rules that go against OTARD then they are breaking federal law too. just instal per the OTARD rules and you have nothing to worry about. if they give you flack then direct them to this website http://www.fcc.gov/guides/over-air-reception-devices-rule and tell them to pound sand or contact the FCC if they think you are operating outside the OTARD rules. done and done. i've been doing this for 15 years now and we have always won once we send them that link. they realize the have no leg to stand on and the back down. usually you can get them to rewrite their unlawful rules. -sean On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: The county could have restrictive regulations as well. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 10:16:30 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again i have never gotten an attorney (that i was paying or my client was paying) involved. the HOAs have wasted their money on attorneys only to be told by their attorneys that they should stop breaking federal law. the county has nothing to do with HOAs or federal law. HOAs are corporations set up under state law. OTARD is a federal law passed by congress that the FCC enforces. if you want to waste your time and talk to someone at the county level by all means knock yourself out but i have better
Re: [AFMUG] Pre announce PMP500?
Yes! This was pre 320, and even pre 430…. Anyone remembers pmp400? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Reply-To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Date: Thursday, November 13, 2014 at 1:10 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pre announce PMP500? I think the PMP500 is PMP400 based for the Euro 3.5 market. So Motorola did have a 3GHz solution all the way back then, but they didn't give two shits for US/CA 3650 even though we were begging for something for years. On 11/13/2014 10:31 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: Noticed this in the CNUT 4.6 supported device types list: PMP 400/430/500 Access Point (AP) PMP 400/430/500 Subscriber Module (SM) Did I miss the memo? -- bp part-15@SkylineBroadbandService
Re: [AFMUG] Phantom Default Plug?
I don't think I'll send just one SM to Paul, but had I known about this, I might have kept others for maybe a batch send. Great to know it's repairable - I'll put it on the shelf. Does this happen with the 450's or is it an FSK only thing? I'd still like to know what can cause it, if it was something within my control I'd like to avoid doing it again in the future! -Steve D On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:32 AM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: ALWAYS send to Paul, if nothing else it gets you out of dealing with Ewaste On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Dang, I think I just threw out 3 or 4 AP's that were stuck in default mode because I didn't think they were repairable. Is your workaround a new fix? On 11/13/2014 10:13 AM, Paul McCall via Af wrote: Matt, There are actually lots of little chips around the CPU area that can cause this and a couple other parts that can as well. We actually have a proprietary workaround that works pretty universally to fix this, but I cant share that secret :) it involve no component swaps. Paul -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:28 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Phantom Default Plug? Anyone know the component to replace to fix this? Have replaced ethernet controller chips and diodes on P9 units. On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:07 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I had one do that, Paul at PDMNet said it was a hardware problem and apparently somewhat common, I sent it in and they fixed it. It was a pretty old SM and I thought it was just crud or water in the jack or on the PCB but I cleaned it up really good with alcohol with no success. From: Steve D via Af Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 9:02 PM To: af Subject: [AFMUG] Phantom Default Plug? I know I've seen this before, but just had an FSK 2.4 SM do this to me - real bugger too because it was the last in my truck while I was out doing a site test. Any ideas what caused it or how to fix it? I think I was in the process of changing color codes when it happened. It's just my truck test unit running 11.2 firmware. Going to 13.1.3 didn't fix, nor did going back to 10.5. Put in a real default plug and reset to defaults too. -Steve D -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official
I guess I get to talk about this now. Some of the new A/B (minus FSK, connector anyway) 5GHz APs were built with the internal jumpers reversed. We put up some new sectors and noticed the beacon power was very weak.. because it was on horizontal, not vertical! This is bad for 430 interop, and obviously just as bad for 450 pre-13.2.. weak beacon, interference.. no worky. So yeah, now the beacon is on both polarities. And if you have an AP with reversed jumpers + 430 SMs, you'll have to use MIMO-A 430 interop mode (which I believe is now the default) instead of SISO. Obviously with MIMO you get 3dB less beacon power, and for 450 it doesn't matter, for 430 it might depending on noise levels, etc. Shit happens. On 11/13/2014 10:12 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: Noticed this in the corrected list. Does this mean that the PMP450 is polarity agnostic now in all frequencies (specifically 5 GHz)? PMP 450 AP 22943 CPY-9983, CPY-9631 Fixed problem when AP/SM has crossed RF cables and would not register This problem has been resolved in System Release 13.2. bp part-15@SkylineBroadbandService On 11/13/2014 5:12 AM, Matt Mangriotis via Af wrote: It is here! We released 13.2 this morning officially. Come to our forum to discuss anything about it. http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2-Now-Avaialable/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Download the software from the usual place on our support site: https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450/ *Thanks*to all of you that Beta tested this software with us, and helped to make it stronger and better than ever. Now that this is here, we’re hard at work on delivering the next round of enhancements (code name 13.3 (pretty original, huh?)) which are right around the corner. The momentum is building on the PMP 450 platform. Thanks again, Matt
Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official
Wow, that makes perfect sense! I had a ticket open with Cambium on this issue for two APs, and I decided yesterday to see if 13.2 (Build 40) made any difference, and it resolved the problem, so I closed the case. I knew the antennas were connected properly, so that explanation never occurred to me! Luckily, our APs with 430 SMs have the correct polarity, so I should be able to set those APs to SISO Interop Mode (which isn’t documented in the new release notes – I’ve already pointed that out on the forum) to get a bit better beacon power. -- Darren From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:41 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official I guess I get to talk about this now. Some of the new A/B (minus FSK, connector anyway) 5GHz APs were built with the internal jumpers reversed. We put up some new sectors and noticed the beacon power was very weak.. because it was on horizontal, not vertical! This is bad for 430 interop, and obviously just as bad for 450 pre-13.2.. weak beacon, interference.. no worky. So yeah, now the beacon is on both polarities. And if you have an AP with reversed jumpers + 430 SMs, you'll have to use MIMO-A 430 interop mode (which I believe is now the default) instead of SISO. Obviously with MIMO you get 3dB less beacon power, and for 450 it doesn't matter, for 430 it might depending on noise levels, etc. Shit happens. On 11/13/2014 10:12 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: Noticed this in the corrected list. Does this mean that the PMP450 is polarity agnostic now in all frequencies (specifically 5 GHz)? PMP 450 AP 22943 CPY-9983, CPY-9631 Fixed problem when AP/SM has crossed RF cables and would not register This problem has been resolved in System Release 13.2. bp part-15@SkylineBroadbandService On 11/13/2014 5:12 AM, Matt Mangriotis via Af wrote: It is here! We released 13.2 this morning officially. Come to our forum to discuss anything about it. http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2-Now-Avaialable/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Download the software from the usual place on our support site: https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450/ Thanks to all of you that Beta tested this software with us, and helped to make it stronger and better than ever. Now that this is here, we’re hard at work on delivering the next round of enhancements (code name 13.3 (pretty original, huh?)) which are right around the corner. The momentum is building on the PMP 450 platform. Thanks again, Matt
[AFMUG] WARNING: Steamy Subject Matter
So that is what it takes to get your attention… As has been mentioned several times in the recent past we are working on the Animal Farm 9 agenda. We could really use some input from you the participants in this process. Currently I am counting on the usual suspect to show their wares in a similar fashion to what they have done in the past. Beyond that I would ask what would you like to learn more about? Panel discussions? How to meet girls? How to pick the perfect emoticon to best capture mood and intonation? I’m open to anything and would be happy to chase down industry experts to enlighten us all. Thoughts? If you would rather not respond to the group with your suggestions please feel free to contact me at ja...@cni.net mailto:ja...@cni.net or 360.442.4414. Thanks, Jason Petrillo Last Mile Gear
Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official
you will need to go to 12.1 first before going to 13.X On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I also noticed that there is an OFDM version of 13.2. So I presume many of the 450 enhancements are also on the 430. Because I am so risk averse, all of our 430s are still on 11.2. Should I got through 12.x before going to 13.2, or is a direct jump OK? Reading through the release notes implies that I should be OK if I upgrade the SMs first. bp part-15@SkylineBroadbandService On 11/13/2014 5:12 AM, Matt Mangriotis via Af wrote: It is here! We released 13.2 this morning officially. Come to our forum to discuss anything about it. http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2-Now-Avaialable/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Download the software from the usual place on our support site: https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450/ *Thanks* to all of you that Beta tested this software with us, and helped to make it stronger and better than ever. Now that this is here, we’re hard at work on delivering the next round of enhancements (code name 13.3 (pretty original, huh?)) which are right around the corner. The momentum is building on the PMP 450 platform. Thanks again, Matt
[AFMUG] For love of all that is evil (mikrotik/routerboard)
Freaking hell, I just spent 30 minutes trying to unravel a router mystery. Ended up that both of my CCR Mikrotik routers had THE SAME MAC ADDRESSES between them! They are identical. Every port had a consecutive MAC number, but they were the same numbers for both the SFP and GigE ports across the two routers. I'm guessing they flashed them both at the manufacturer the exact same, then didn't make it through a MAC renumbering. Or is this common with Mikrotik now days? I'm sure I've encountered it before, but like once every five years. Just a FYI for all y'all who use Mikrotiks. Watch your backs (I mean MACs)!
Re: [AFMUG] Phantom Default Plug?
Paul, How much to fix? I have 4 APs like this, 2 happened on a Saturday afternoon on the same tower. Made for a sh!tty weekend Heith -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 10:13 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Phantom Default Plug? Matt, There are actually lots of little chips around the CPU area that can cause this and a couple other parts that can as well. We actually have a proprietary workaround that works pretty universally to fix this, but I cant share that secret :) it involve no component swaps. Paul -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:28 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Phantom Default Plug? Anyone know the component to replace to fix this? Have replaced ethernet controller chips and diodes on P9 units. On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:07 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I had one do that, Paul at PDMNet said it was a hardware problem and apparently somewhat common, I sent it in and they fixed it. It was a pretty old SM and I thought it was just crud or water in the jack or on the PCB but I cleaned it up really good with alcohol with no success. From: Steve D via Af Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 9:02 PM To: af Subject: [AFMUG] Phantom Default Plug? I know I've seen this before, but just had an FSK 2.4 SM do this to me - real bugger too because it was the last in my truck while I was out doing a site test. Any ideas what caused it or how to fix it? I think I was in the process of changing color codes when it happened. It's just my truck test unit running 11.2 firmware. Going to 13.1.3 didn't fix, nor did going back to 10.5. Put in a real default plug and reset to defaults too. -Steve D
[AFMUG] in need of a Dragonwave Horizon Compact Plus 18Ghz Band 1 high side
does anyone have a Dragonwave Horizon Compact Plus 18Ghz Band 1 High side they would like to sell? we used our spare and then another one had problems before we could get the first one fixed :-/ Thanks, sean
Re: [AFMUG] For love of all that is evil (mikrotik/routerboard)
I always wondered how manufactures reuse their MACs, apparently all in the same batch On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Freaking hell, I just spent 30 minutes trying to unravel a router mystery. Ended up that both of my CCR Mikrotik routers had THE SAME MAC ADDRESSES between them! They are identical. Every port had a consecutive MAC number, but they were the same numbers for both the SFP and GigE ports across the two routers. I'm guessing they flashed them both at the manufacturer the exact same, then didn't make it through a MAC renumbering. Or is this common with Mikrotik now days? I'm sure I've encountered it before, but like once every five years. Just a FYI for all y'all who use Mikrotiks. Watch your backs (I mean MACs)! -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] For love of all that is evil (mikrotik/routerboard)
Usually it’s the Chinese rogue manufacturers reusing everyone else’s macs. This is going to become more interesting with IP6 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] For love of all that is evil (mikrotik/routerboard) I always wondered how manufactures reuse their MACs, apparently all in the same batch On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Freaking hell, I just spent 30 minutes trying to unravel a router mystery. Ended up that both of my CCR Mikrotik routers had THE SAME MAC ADDRESSES between them! They are identical. Every port had a consecutive MAC number, but they were the same numbers for both the SFP and GigE ports across the two routers. I'm guessing they flashed them both at the manufacturer the exact same, then didn't make it through a MAC renumbering. Or is this common with Mikrotik now days? I'm sure I've encountered it before, but like once every five years. Just a FYI for all y'all who use Mikrotiks. Watch your backs (I mean MACs)! -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official
Mexico On 11/13/2014 12:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser via Af wrote: HA! I got one of those reversed jumper AP's and it cost me 2-3 extra tower climbs! I thought the jumpers on the KPP omni were reversed at first. Who do i send the bill to for the extra tower climbs this cost me? Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com/ tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:41 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I guess I get to talk about this now. Some of the new A/B (minus FSK, connector anyway) 5GHz APs were built with the internal jumpers reversed. We put up some new sectors and noticed the beacon power was very weak.. because it was on horizontal, not vertical! This is bad for 430 interop, and obviously just as bad for 450 pre-13.2.. weak beacon, interference.. no worky. So yeah, now the beacon is on both polarities. And if you have an AP with reversed jumpers + 430 SMs, you'll have to use MIMO-A 430 interop mode (which I believe is now the default) instead of SISO. Obviously with MIMO you get 3dB less beacon power, and for 450 it doesn't matter, for 430 it might depending on noise levels, etc. Shit happens. On 11/13/2014 10:12 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: Noticed this in the corrected list. Does this mean that the PMP450 is polarity agnostic now in all frequencies (specifically 5 GHz)? PMP 450 AP 22943 CPY-9983, CPY-9631 Fixed problem when AP/SM has crossed RF cables and would not registerThis problem has been resolved in System Release 13.2. bp part-15@SkylineBroadbandService On 11/13/2014 5:12 AM, Matt Mangriotis via Af wrote: It is here! We released 13.2 this morning officially. Come to our forum to discuss anything about it. http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2-Now-Avaialable/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Download the software from the usual place on our support site: https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450/ *Thanks*to all of you that Beta tested this software with us, and helped to make it stronger and better than ever. Now that this is here, we’re hard at work on delivering the next round of enhancements (code name 13.3 (pretty original, huh?)) which are right around the corner. The momentum is building on the PMP 450 platform. Thanks again, Matt
Re: [AFMUG] WARNING: Steamy Subject Matter
I wanna know how my web pages can get as many views as Kim Kardashian’s butt. From: Jason Petrillo via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:28 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] WARNING: Steamy Subject Matter So that is what it takes to get your attention… As has been mentioned several times in the recent past we are working on the Animal Farm 9 agenda. We could really use some input from you the participants in this process. Currently I am counting on the usual suspect to show their wares in a similar fashion to what they have done in the past. Beyond that I would ask what would you like to learn more about? Panel discussions? How to meet girls? How to pick the perfect emoticon to best capture mood and intonation? I’m open to anything and would be happy to chase down industry experts to enlighten us all. Thoughts? If you would rather not respond to the group with your suggestions please feel free to contact me at ja...@cni.net or 360.442.4414. Thanks, Jason Petrillo Last Mile Gear
Re: [AFMUG] Pre announce PMP500?
?wasn't that called Expedience or something? From: Af af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pre announce PMP500? I think the PMP500 is PMP400 based for the Euro 3.5 market. So Motorola did have a 3GHz solution all the way back then, but they didn't give two shits for US/CA 3650 even though we were begging for something for years. On 11/13/2014 10:31 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: Noticed this in the CNUT 4.6 supported device types list: PMP 400/430/500 Access Point (AP) PMP 400/430/500 Subscriber Module (SM) Did I miss the memo? -- bp part-15@SkylineBroadbandService
Re: [AFMUG] For love of all that is evil (mikrotik/routerboard)
I recommend you use different MACs on Ethernet devices that are connected to other Ethernet devices. Especially if they are all on the same collision domain. Improper operation may result in having both devices use the same MAC. Of course this will continue to be a problem until MAC-V6 is widely implemented, but try to find different MACs. I know they are hard to come by, but it is sure to make you life easier... (I used to have a block of MACs assigned to my company. Not sure if I had to pay Xerox for them or what. Been a long time ago.) From: That One Guy via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] For love of all that is evil (mikrotik/routerboard) I always wondered how manufactures reuse their MACs, apparently all in the same batch On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Freaking hell, I just spent 30 minutes trying to unravel a router mystery. Ended up that both of my CCR Mikrotik routers had THE SAME MAC ADDRESSES between them! They are identical. Every port had a consecutive MAC number, but they were the same numbers for both the SFP and GigE ports across the two routers. I'm guessing they flashed them both at the manufacturer the exact same, then didn't make it through a MAC renumbering. Or is this common with Mikrotik now days? I'm sure I've encountered it before, but like once every five years. Just a FYI for all y'all who use Mikrotiks. Watch your backs (I mean MACs)! -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] For love of all that is evil (mikrotik/routerboard)
I know on Mikrotik if you copy a config from one device to another and you do not sanitize any MAC addresses in it you can rewrite the MACs on the new device. Any chance you did something like that? If so a reset to default config should restore the original MACs. -Ty On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I recommend you use different MACs on Ethernet devices that are connected to other Ethernet devices. Especially if they are all on the same collision domain. Improper operation may result in having both devices use the same MAC. Of course this will continue to be a problem until MAC-V6 is widely implemented, but try to find different MACs. I know they are hard to come by, but it is sure to make you life easier... (I used to have a block of MACs assigned to my company. Not sure if I had to pay Xerox for them or what. Been a long time ago.) *From:* That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:48 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] For love of all that is evil (mikrotik/routerboard) I always wondered how manufactures reuse their MACs, apparently all in the same batch On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Freaking hell, I just spent 30 minutes trying to unravel a router mystery. Ended up that both of my CCR Mikrotik routers had THE SAME MAC ADDRESSES between them! They are identical. Every port had a consecutive MAC number, but they were the same numbers for both the SFP and GigE ports across the two routers. I'm guessing they flashed them both at the manufacturer the exact same, then didn't make it through a MAC renumbering. Or is this common with Mikrotik now days? I'm sure I've encountered it before, but like once every five years. Just a FYI for all y'all who use Mikrotiks. Watch your backs (I mean MACs)! -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] WARNING: Steamy Subject Matter
IPv6 implementation in a IPV4 network. BGP best practices. Setting up iBGP I where you have different physically located edges. Sincerely, Jason Pond On Nov 13, 2014 11:28 AM, Jason Petrillo via Af af@afmug.com wrote: So that is what it takes to get your attention… As has been mentioned several times in the recent past we are working on the Animal Farm 9 agenda. We could really use some input from you the participants in this process. Currently I am counting on the usual suspect to show their wares in a similar fashion to what they have done in the past. Beyond that I would ask what would you like to learn more about? Panel discussions? How to meet girls? How to pick the perfect emoticon to best capture mood and intonation? I’m open to anything and would be happy to chase down industry experts to enlighten us all. Thoughts? If you would rather not respond to the group with your suggestions please feel free to contact me at ja...@cni.net or 360.442.4414. Thanks, Jason Petrillo Last Mile Gear
Re: [AFMUG] For love of all that is evil (mikrotik/routerboard)
Yeah, I've had that happen... if I remember correctly, it happened to me on a CCR. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Ty Featherling via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] For love of all that is evil (mikrotik/routerboard) I know on Mikrotik if you copy a config from one device to another and you do not sanitize any MAC addresses in it you can rewrite the MACs on the new device. Any chance you did something like that? If so a reset to default config should restore the original MACs. -Ty On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I recommend you use different MACs on Ethernet devices that are connected to other Ethernet devices. Especially if they are all on the same collision domain. Improper operation may result in having both devices use the same MAC. Of course this will continue to be a problem until MAC-V6 is widely implemented, but try to find different MACs. I know they are hard to come by, but it is sure to make you life easier... (I used to have a block of MACs assigned to my company. Not sure if I had to pay Xerox for them or what. Been a long time ago.) From: That One Guy via Afmailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:48 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] For love of all that is evil (mikrotik/routerboard) I always wondered how manufactures reuse their MACs, apparently all in the same batch On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Freaking hell, I just spent 30 minutes trying to unravel a router mystery. Ended up that both of my CCR Mikrotik routers had THE SAME MAC ADDRESSES between them! They are identical. Every port had a consecutive MAC number, but they were the same numbers for both the SFP and GigE ports across the two routers. I'm guessing they flashed them both at the manufacturer the exact same, then didn't make it through a MAC renumbering. Or is this common with Mikrotik now days? I'm sure I've encountered it before, but like once every five years. Just a FYI for all y'all who use Mikrotiks. Watch your backs (I mean MACs)! -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] For love of all that is evil (mikrotik/routerboard)
Do an /interface ethernet print detail. You'll see if the MAC matches the orig (hardware) MAC. You can then reset to that original MAC. On 11/13/2014 1:13 PM, Ty Featherling via Af wrote: I know on Mikrotik if you copy a config from one device to another and you do not sanitize any MAC addresses in it you can rewrite the MACs on the new device. Any chance you did something like that? If so a reset to default config should restore the original MACs. -Ty On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I recommend you use different MACs on Ethernet devices that are connected to other Ethernet devices. Especially if they are all on the same collision domain. Improper operation may result in having both devices use the same MAC. Of course this will continue to be a problem until MAC-V6 is widely implemented, but try to find different MACs. I know they are hard to come by, but it is sure to make you life easier... (I used to have a block of MACs assigned to my company. Not sure if I had to pay Xerox for them or what. Been a long time ago.) *From:* That One Guy via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:* Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:48 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] For love of all that is evil (mikrotik/routerboard) I always wondered how manufactures reuse their MACs, apparently all in the same batch On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Freaking hell, I just spent 30 minutes trying to unravel a router mystery. Ended up that both of my CCR Mikrotik routers had THE SAME MAC ADDRESSES between them! They are identical. Every port had a consecutive MAC number, but they were the same numbers for both the SFP and GigE ports across the two routers. I'm guessing they flashed them both at the manufacturer the exact same, then didn't make it through a MAC renumbering. Or is this common with Mikrotik now days? I'm sure I've encountered it before, but like once every five years. Just a FYI for all y'all who use Mikrotiks. Watch your backs (I mean MACs)! -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] WARNING: Steamy Subject Matter
MDU deployment. Wired and wireless. Jason Petrillo via Af wrote: So that is what it takes to get your attention… As has been mentioned several times in the recent past we are working on the Animal Farm 9 agenda. We could really use some input from you the participants in this process. Currently I am counting on the usual suspect to show their wares in a similar fashion to what they have done in the past. Beyond that I would ask what would you like to learn more about? Panel discussions? How to meet girls? How to pick the perfect emoticon to best capture mood and intonation? I’m open to anything and would be happy to chase down industry experts to enlighten us all. Thoughts? If you would rather not respond to the group with your suggestions please feel free to contact me at ja...@cni.net mailto:ja...@cni.net or 360.442.4414. Thanks, Jason Petrillo Last Mile Gear
[AFMUG] Dumb interference question.
We are having problems with a Canopy 900 deployment on a water tank and it's had us stumped for a while. There is another Canopy 900 operator about a half mile away that doesn't seem to have the same problems and we've even looked at his ap and verified that fact. The only gear the water department says they have is for monitoring and operates on 451 and 456 MHz. I've /think /heard of interference caused by radios that operate in other frequencies especially if they are in some divisor or multiple of another radio. For example, since 456 MHz is roughly half of 900 is there a scenario where it could cause us problems?
Re: [AFMUG] Dumb interference question.
Apparently, the italics didn't work. The garbled part was I think I've heard of interference caused by radios that operate in other frequencies especially if they are in some divisor or multiple of another radio Jay Weekley via Af wrote: We are having problems with a Canopy 900 deployment on a water tank and it's had us stumped for a while. There is another Canopy 900 operator about a half mile away that doesn't seem to have the same problems and we've even looked at his ap and verified that fact. The only gear the water department says they have is for monitoring and operates on 451 and 456 MHz. I've /think /heard of interference caused by radios that operate in other frequencies especially if they are in some divisor or multiple of another radio. For example, since 456 MHz is roughly half of 900 is there a scenario where it could cause us problems?
Re: [AFMUG] WARNING: Steamy Subject Matter
+1 on the IPv6. I understand the routing, but looking more specifically about handing off Dualstacked to customers. CPE Hardware support/configuration, Etc. Perhaps some sort of 6 to 4 gateway talk. We have boatloads of IPv6 space, but sparse IPv4. Can we hand out only IPv6 addresses to customers, would they notice. Would they care? Nate On 11/13/2014 1:18 PM, Jason Pond via Af wrote: IPv6 implementation in a IPV4 network. BGP best practices. Setting up iBGP I where you have different physically located edges. Sincerely, Jason Pond On Nov 13, 2014 11:28 AM, Jason Petrillo via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: So that is what it takes to get your attention… As has been mentioned several times in the recent past we are working on the Animal Farm 9 agenda. We could really use some input from you the participants in this process. Currently I am counting on the usual suspect to show their wares in a similar fashion to what they have done in the past. Beyond that I would ask what would you like to learn more about? Panel discussions? How to meet girls? How to pick the perfect emoticon to best capture mood and intonation? I’m open to anything and would be happy to chase down industry experts to enlighten us all. Thoughts? If you would rather not respond to the group with your suggestions please feel free to contact me at ja...@cni.net mailto:ja...@cni.net or 360.442.4414 tel:360.442.4414. Thanks, Jason Petrillo Last Mile Gear
Re: [AFMUG] WARNING: Steamy Subject Matter
Chuck… You know better than to provoke me… :) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:06 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WARNING: Steamy Subject Matter I wanna know how my web pages can get as many views as Kim Kardashian’s butt. From: Jason Petrillo via Af mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:28 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] WARNING: Steamy Subject Matter So that is what it takes to get your attention… As has been mentioned several times in the recent past we are working on the Animal Farm 9 agenda. We could really use some input from you the participants in this process. Currently I am counting on the usual suspect to show their wares in a similar fashion to what they have done in the past. Beyond that I would ask what would you like to learn more about? Panel discussions? How to meet girls? How to pick the perfect emoticon to best capture mood and intonation? I’m open to anything and would be happy to chase down industry experts to enlighten us all. Thoughts? If you would rather not respond to the group with your suggestions please feel free to contact me at ja...@cni.net mailto:ja...@cni.net or 360.442.4414. Thanks, Jason Petrillo Last Mile Gear
Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official
George, We ran the beta through most of it's revisions. I believe it was always safe to have a 13.2 beta CPE registering to the AP. There were several times we pulled all the CPE back to the shop to get them on current software. Our process is supposed to insure any SM's in the trucks are logged back in at night and flagged if they need defaulted, updated, etc. We found one guy hording about 30 SM's scattered around the truck, many of them with antique software. Arg. Mark On 11/13/14, 2:15 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: I had a tech trying to install an SM that was old stock in the truck with 12.2.2. He was trying to register and align with an AP running build 35. I'd try to proxy into it to set the color code (from ICC) and it would go idle. Power level was OK, about -72. Then about two minutes later a couple other SMs would go idle. Tried again and again, more SMs would go idle. Couldn't even get it to auto-update. Luckily it was his house, so I had him bring the SM back, upgraded it to build 35, he re-installed, worked fine. So now I gotta update the whole 450 network. Then gather all of the radios from the trucks and all SMs in stock and update them. It sucks, but I don't care because 13.2 is freakin awesome. On 11/13/2014 12:46 PM, Aaron Schneider via Af wrote: Thank you very much for all of you that helped with Open Beta. It was a very long release, but there were lots of things found and fixed as a result of having you helping us with access to your systems. I’d like to highlight here, for those of you that don’t read the release notes, due to the MIMO-A changes and isolated issues seen during the upgrade procedure at some customers sites, we are recommending an SM-first upgrade when going to 13.2. Most customers were able to do the normal AP-first upgrade without issues. But there were some changes in the Air Interface PHY that could potentially cause SMs to have a hard time registering when you have mixed versions between 13.2 and earlier (13.1.3). Even doing an SM-first (reverse) upgrade, most, if not all, of the SMs should come back in session, so it isn’t a downtime upgrade (where the SMs don’t register until the AP is upgraded). There is more information in the release notes as well as instructions on how to do this type of upgrade as well as help to switch procedures if you have already started a normal upgrade and have SMs having trouble registering. We saw no issues with registration (we actually saw improvements due to MIMO-A control messages) in SM registration once the sector was fully on 13.2. This last problem is a big part of the final 2-3 week delay. Also we were able to fully fix the 13.2 Open Beta nagging Ethernet lockup detection problem. Please enjoy 13.2, it has been a long time in the making! For the questions about 13.2 being for PMP100, the answer is no. And I can’t comment quite yet on any possible upcoming releases for the PMP100. Regards, -Aaron *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Matt Mangriotis via Af *Sent:* Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:13 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official It is here! We released 13.2 this morning officially. Come to our forum to discuss anything about it. http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2-Now-Avaialable/m-p/36254/thread-id/278 Download the software from the usual place on our support site: https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450/ *Thanks*to all of you that Beta tested this software with us, and helped to make it stronger and better than ever. Now that this is here, we’re hard at work on delivering the next round of enhancements (code name 13.3 (pretty original, huh?)) which are right around the corner. The momentum is building on the PMP 450 platform. Thanks again, Matt -- Mark Radabaugh Amplex m...@amplex.net 419.837.5015 x 1021
Re: [AFMUG] WARNING: Steamy Subject Matter
Fiber, Fiber, Fiber! More Fiber! On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Jason Petrillo via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Chuck… You know better than to provoke me… J *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via Af *Sent:* Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:06 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WARNING: Steamy Subject Matter I wanna know how my web pages can get as many views as Kim Kardashian’s butt. *From:* Jason Petrillo via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:28 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] WARNING: Steamy Subject Matter So that is what it takes to get your attention… As has been mentioned several times in the recent past we are working on the Animal Farm 9 agenda. We could really use some input from you the participants in this process. Currently I am counting on the usual suspect to show their wares in a similar fashion to what they have done in the past. Beyond that I would ask what would you like to learn more about? Panel discussions? How to meet girls? How to pick the perfect emoticon to best capture mood and intonation? I’m open to anything and would be happy to chase down industry experts to enlighten us all. Thoughts? If you would rather not respond to the group with your suggestions please feel free to contact me at ja...@cni.net or 360.442.4414. Thanks, Jason Petrillo Last Mile Gear
Re: [AFMUG] For love of all that is evil (mikrotik/routerboard)
On 11/13/2014 01:25 PM, Ty Featherling via Af wrote: Yes. Works great too. George, that is a good idea. -Ty On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: They did add the compact feature to help clear this issue up... This compact is now the default mode for exports (beginning somewhere in the middle of the 6.x series) -- Butch Evans 702-537-0979 Network Support and Engineering http://store.wispgear.net/ http://www.butchevans.com/
Re: [AFMUG] UFO invades canopy link
Damn...I hope you have encryption...No free service...everyone payswhere was it taken Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Matt Jenkins via Af af@afmug.com wrote: One of our installers took this picture. It looks like a UFO flying in the path.
Re: [AFMUG] UFO invades canopy link
I can’t tell if it is an African or European Swallow. -Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 12:34 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UFO invades canopy link Damn...I hope you have encryption...No free service...everyone payswhere was it taken Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Matt Jenkins via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: One of our installers took this picture. It looks like a UFO flying in the path.
Re: [AFMUG] Company Facebook Page
I try to keep it to things a bit personal, a bit technical, but never sales-pitchy. People don’t go to your facebook to be sold something, they go because you are giving them something of value (funny tech comic, educational information, etc.) https://www.facebook.com/pages/Velociter-Wireless/126091380749224 Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Company Facebook Page https://www.facebook.com/ZIRKELwireless On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Anybody have a company Facebook page that they are particularly proud of? Looking for some creative ideas (posts) to use on ours Paul Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800tel:772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352tel:772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.comhttp://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.netmailto:pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] Company Facebook Page
https://www.facebook.com/amplexinternet Mark On 11/13/14, 4:19 PM, Paul McCall via Af wrote: Anybody have a company Facebook page that they are particularly proud of? Looking for some creative ideas (posts) to use on ours Paul Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com http://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.net mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net -- Mark Radabaugh Amplex m...@amplex.net 419.837.5015 x 1021
[AFMUG] How do you power an ePMP on a tower?
What are my options besides stacking a bunch of the included POEs? I'd much prefer a DC solution. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] How do you power an ePMP on a tower?
I think that packetflux has an ePMP block the runs off of DC http://store.packetflux.com/gigabit-syncinjector-for-24-volt-cambium-radios/ Sincerely, Jason Pond On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: What are my options besides stacking a bunch of the included POEs? I'd much prefer a DC solution. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] How do you power an ePMP on a tower?
On 11/13/14, 15:05, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: What are my options besides stacking a bunch of the included POEs? http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-4-channel-gigabit-poe-injector-controller/ Also in 8-port or gigabit syncinjector. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] How do you power an ePMP on a tower?
http://www.wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=77 -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How do you power an ePMP on a tower? On 11/13/14, 15:05, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: What are my options besides stacking a bunch of the included POEs? http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-4-channel-gigabit-poe-injector-controller/ Also in 8-port or gigabit syncinjector. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official
I say do a quick spin of 13.1.3 (13.1.3.1?) for FSK to fix the 2.4 None issue. Seems like the simplest solution. On 11/13/2014 4:56 PM, Matt via Af wrote: For the questions about 13.2 being for PMP100, the answer is no. And I can’t comment quite yet on any possible upcoming releases for the PMP100. The main thing that comes to mind regarding 13.1.3 on PMP100 is the lack of being able to set carrier frequency to none on a disabled AP. Otherwise what would 13.2 really bring PMP100? As recently as 6 months ago I believe we purchased new FSK 2.4 SM's though. We have MANY MANY in the field yet.
Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official
move the tabs in more convenient spots like you did in 13.2 — Sent from Mailbox On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 6:15 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I say do a quick spin of 13.1.3 (13.1.3.1?) for FSK to fix the 2.4 None issue. Seems like the simplest solution. On 11/13/2014 4:56 PM, Matt via Af wrote: For the questions about 13.2 being for PMP100, the answer is no. And I can’t comment quite yet on any possible upcoming releases for the PMP100. The main thing that comes to mind regarding 13.1.3 on PMP100 is the lack of being able to set carrier frequency to none on a disabled AP. Otherwise what would 13.2 really bring PMP100? As recently as 6 months ago I believe we purchased new FSK 2.4 SM's though. We have MANY MANY in the field yet.
Re: [AFMUG] How do you power an ePMP on a tower?
Well that kinda settles it, 4 port sync injector... What kind of applications have you seen for those APC cards with DC power? I feel it's way more convenient to do a Packetflux POE injector. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: http://www.wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=77 -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How do you power an ePMP on a tower? On 11/13/14, 15:05, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: What are my options besides stacking a bunch of the included POEs? http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-4-channel-gigabit- poe-injector-controller/ Also in 8-port or gigabit syncinjector. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] How do you power an ePMP on a tower?
If it was me, which I'm about to do, I would use a SyncInjector AND GigE-APC(HV?)'s. I agree, the GigE-POE-APC's are awesome. On 11/13/2014 5:33 PM, Nate Burke via Af wrote: I use the GIGE-POE-APC for powering all my Airfiber radios. They're also good if you want to get DC power to a remote location that already has cat5 run, you can run them back to back to put the power on and take it off of the Cat5. Don't forget with the packetflux, you still need some surge protection, Chucks does it all in 1 unit (but no Sync). On 11/13/2014 5:20 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Well that kinda settles it, 4 port sync injector... What kind of applications have you seen for those APC cards with DC power? I feel it's way more convenient to do a Packetflux POE injector. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: http://www.wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=77 -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:07 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How do you power an ePMP on a tower? On 11/13/14, 15:05, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: What are my options besides stacking a bunch of the included POEs? http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-4-channel-gigabit-poe-injector-controller/ Also in 8-port or gigabit syncinjector. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official
Isn't that RX errors? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We changed out a 430 5.7 90 degree sector AP this morning for a 450 5.7 90 sector this morning with 13.2 running on the 74 430 SM's on the sector. With 74 SM's on a 430 you can probably guess why we changed it :-) ALL 430 SM's came back online cleanly, with very minimal downtime for the customers. SM signal strengths look unchanged across the board. We did swap 5 of the highest usage customers to 450 SM's after the AP swap. I would not have expected as big of a difference in peak bandwidth usage without swapping significantly more customers to 450 SM's than we did but: It looks like peak bandwidth went from just over 30Mb to just over 40Mbps already.The TX errors are overrun which we start seeing as the AP nears or reaches capacity. I expect that to go away as we swap out more SM's. In any case it appears it's very safe to change out a 430AP for a 450. We have done this swap several times before with prior software versions and have usually had to visit a handful of customers to get them back online. This time we planned a little better (making sure 450 compatibility was enabled on all of the SM's), all units had 13.2 on them, and that the antenna was aimed with the same angle and downtilt. I believe the new software made this a smoother process. Thanks Cambium! Mark -- Mark Radabaugh Amplex m...@amplex.net 419.837.5015 x 1021
Re: [AFMUG] How do you power an ePMP on a tower?
Oh hell I'm glad you pointed that out...all of my cards aren't suitable for gig. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 6:38 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af af@afmug.com wrote: If it was me, which I'm about to do, I would use a SyncInjector AND GigE-APC(HV?)'s. I agree, the GigE-POE-APC's are awesome. On 11/13/2014 5:33 PM, Nate Burke via Af wrote: I use the GIGE-POE-APC for powering all my Airfiber radios. They're also good if you want to get DC power to a remote location that already has cat5 run, you can run them back to back to put the power on and take it off of the Cat5. Don't forget with the packetflux, you still need some surge protection, Chucks does it all in 1 unit (but no Sync). On 11/13/2014 5:20 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Well that kinda settles it, 4 port sync injector... What kind of applications have you seen for those APC cards with DC power? I feel it's way more convenient to do a Packetflux POE injector. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: http://www.wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=77 -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How do you power an ePMP on a tower? On 11/13/14, 15:05, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: What are my options besides stacking a bunch of the included POEs? http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-4-channel-gigabit-poe-injector-controller/ Also in 8-port or gigabit syncinjector. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] How do you power an ePMP on a tower?
Oh that's fantastic. I'm going to need that bit of info, too!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 6:45 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I use some of the WB cards to power 802.3at licensed radios from 48V battery voltage. *From:* Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Thursday, November 13, 2014 5:20 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] How do you power an ePMP on a tower? Well that kinda settles it, 4 port sync injector... What kind of applications have you seen for those APC cards with DC power? I feel it's way more convenient to do a Packetflux POE injector. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: http://www.wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=77 -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How do you power an ePMP on a tower? On 11/13/14, 15:05, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: What are my options besides stacking a bunch of the included POEs? http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-4-channel-gigabit- poe-injector-controller/ Also in 8-port or gigabit syncinjector. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official
Read it backward. It's 134 RcvFifoNoBuf errors in 5 hours - which is what happens when the RF out overloads and starts dropping at the Ethernet side. Mark On 11/13/14, 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Isn't that RX errors? Josh Luthman -- Mark Radabaugh Amplex m...@amplex.net 419.837.5015 x 1021
[AFMUG] Can anyone service this area?
I'm told there are a bunch of million dollor homes in this area 3771 edgewater way Louisville TN I'm also told they are willing to pay anything for good service all they can get right now is Satellite internet if not you can BH a link to a near by area let me know as there is someone wanting me to consult/Help them get somthing going in there area if there are no WISP's already in the area Thanks,
[AFMUG] Mark Cuban on Net Neutrality: The Government Will Fuck the Internet Up
http://reason.com/blog/2014/11/13/markcuban-on-net-neutrality-the-governme - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Re: [AFMUG] Mark Cuban on Net Neutrality: The Government Will Fuck the Internet Up
considering that mark cuban's hero is Ayn Rand: https://www.google.ca/search?q=mark+cuban+ayn+randie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-achannel=sbgfe_rd=crei=NUhlVKGZJKibkgLHhoGgDA Juvenile philosophy. On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: http://reason.com/blog/2014/11/13/markcuban-on-net-neutrality-the-governme - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Re: [AFMUG] How do you power an ePMP on a tower?
You can also use a ctm2 from last mile gear On Thursday, November 13, 2014, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: What are my options besides stacking a bunch of the included POEs? I'd much prefer a DC solution. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
[AFMUG] SiteMonitor Question
So I have two SyncInjectors connected to this SiteMonitor. The second one will not communicate properly (see screen shot below). I tried rebooting the base, different jumpers, defaulting, no luck. All three items are brand new. Dan English Plexicomm - Internet Solutions d...@plexicomm.net | 1.866.759.4678 x103 Fax: 1.866.852.4688 | Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713
Re: [AFMUG] SiteMonitor Question
Swap daisy chain cables? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 7:16 PM, Plexicomm Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: So I have two SyncInjectors connected to this SiteMonitor. The second one will not communicate properly (see screen shot below). I tried rebooting the base, different jumpers, defaulting, no luck. All three items are brand new. Dan English Plexicomm - Internet Solutions d...@plexicomm.net | 1.866.759.4678 x103 Fax: 1.866.852.4688 | Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713
Re: [AFMUG] SiteMonitor Question
Just had this his happen with one of mine out of the box. One port would not provide POE either, Packetflux RMA'd the unit. Nate On 11/13/2014 6:16 PM, Plexicomm Admin via Af wrote: So I have two SyncInjectors connected to this SiteMonitor. The second one will not communicate properly (see screen shot below). I tried rebooting the base, different jumpers, defaulting, no luck. All three items are brand new. Dan English Plexicomm - Internet Solutions d...@plexicomm.net | 1.866.759.4678 x103 Fax: 1.866.852.4688 | Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713
Re: [AFMUG] Mark Cuban on Net Neutrality: The Government Will Fuck the Internet Up
What hasn't the government fucked up? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 18:10:08 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mark Cuban on Net Neutrality: The Government Will Fuck the Internet Up considering that mark cuban's hero is Ayn Rand: https://www.google.ca/search?q=mark+cuban+ayn+randie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-achannel=sbgfe_rd=crei=NUhlVKGZJKibkgLHhoGgDA Juvenile philosophy. On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: http://reason.com/blog/2014/11/13/markcuban-on-net-neutrality-the-governme - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Re: [AFMUG] Pre announce PMP500?
Expedience was the Pre-WiMAX system that they had acquired, no relation whatsoever to Canopy systems. I actually found a 2.5ghz Expediance AP on ebay and 2x CPEs that I want to try to setup one day, but documentation seems almost inexistant. On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Tyler Treat via Af af@afmug.com wrote: wasn't that called Expedience or something? -- *From:* Af af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:10 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pre announce PMP500? I think the PMP500 is PMP400 based for the Euro 3.5 market. So Motorola did have a 3GHz solution all the way back then, but they didn't give two shits for US/CA 3650 even though we were begging for something for years. On 11/13/2014 10:31 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: Noticed this in the CNUT 4.6 supported device types list: PMP 400/430/500 Access Point (AP) PMP 400/430/500 Subscriber Module (SM) Did I miss the memo? -- bp part-15@SkylineBroadbandService
Re: [AFMUG] Mark Cuban on Net Neutrality: The Government Will Fuck the Internet Up
The military. It's pretty awesome, you have to admit. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: What hasn't the government fucked up? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 18:10:08 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mark Cuban on Net Neutrality: The Government Will Fuck the Internet Up considering that mark cuban's hero is Ayn Rand: https://www.google.ca/search?q=mark+cuban+ayn+randie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-achannel=sbgfe_rd=crei=NUhlVKGZJKibkgLHhoGgDA Juvenile philosophy. On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: http://reason.com/blog/2014/11/13/markcuban-on-net-neutrality-the-governme - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Re: [AFMUG] Mark Cuban on Net Neutrality: The Government Will Fuck the Internet Up
I think it takes two or three rooms full. bp part-15@SkylineBroadbandService On 11/13/2014 4:51 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: I hate to agree with Mark Cuban, but I think he and the article make some valid points. Even a room full of monkeys will eventually write a Shakespeare play. -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mark Cuban on Net Neutrality: The Government Will Fuck the Internet Up What hasn't the government fucked up? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 18:10:08 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mark Cuban on Net Neutrality: The Government Will Fuck the Internet Up considering that mark cuban's hero is Ayn Rand: https://www.google.ca/search?q=mark+cuban+ayn+randie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-achannel=sbgfe_rd=crei=NUhlVKGZJKibkgLHhoGgDA Juvenile philosophy. On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: http://reason.com/blog/2014/11/13/markcuban-on-net-neutrality-the-governme - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Re: [AFMUG] Mark Cuban on Net Neutrality: The Government Will Fuck the Internet Up
NASA pre space lab. Pretty special putting man on the moon. Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 5:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mark Cuban on Net Neutrality: The Government Will Fuck the Internet Up The military. It's pretty awesome, you have to admit. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: What hasn't the government fucked up? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 18:10:08 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mark Cuban on Net Neutrality: The Government Will Fuck the Internet Up considering that mark cuban's hero is Ayn Rand: https://www.google.ca/search?q=mark+cuban+ayn+rand https://www.google.ca/search?q=mark+cuban+ayn+randie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-achannel=sbgfe_rd=crei=NUhlVKGZJKibkgLHhoGgDA ie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-achannel=sbgfe_rd=crei=NUhlVKGZJKibkgLHhoGgDA Juvenile philosophy. On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: http://reason.com/blog/2014/11/13/markcuban-on-net-neutrality-the-governme - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Re: [AFMUG] SiteMonitor Question
I have a SyncInjector H1 on an old Base-1 and I get the same thing for the exp. description. It happened when I renamed some of the SyncInjector related binary or analog items. It works, so I just left it alone. Mine is running 24-Apr-14. That's a firmware load Forrest sent me to debug some detection issues. Also, when I refresh the String I/O, the base unit crashes and the HW watchdog recovers it. I haven't had any time to mess with it or email Forrest about it. On 11/13/2014 6:16 PM, Plexicomm Admin via Af wrote: So I have two SyncInjectors connected to this SiteMonitor. The second one will not communicate properly (see screen shot below). I tried rebooting the base, different jumpers, defaulting, no luck. All three items are brand new. Dan English Plexicomm - Internet Solutions d...@plexicomm.net | 1.866.759.4678 x103 Fax: 1.866.852.4688 | Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP power limits
this is why i prefer 450 over epmp on omnis, cant hit legal eirp with the omni Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Nov 13, 2014, at 7:21 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Neat pop up!!! This is a nonsync integrated unit. 19:00:28 The Transmitter Output Power limitations 5.x GHz bands are: For ETSI and FCC regions: 5.1-5.2 GHz: 18 dBm 5.47-5.725 GHz: 13-16 dBm 5.725-5.88 GHz: 23 dBm For other regions: 5.1-5.47 GHz: 27 dBm 5.47-5.88 GHz: 30 dBm Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] Mark Cuban on Net Neutrality: The Government Will Fuck the Internet Up
USA: WWI WWII Back-To-Back Champs On 11/13/2014 03:56 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: WWII came out better than most people expected. bp part-15@SkylineBroadbandService On 11/13/2014 4:29 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: What hasn't the government fucked up? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 18:10:08 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mark Cuban on Net Neutrality: The Government Will Fuck the Internet Up considering that mark cuban's hero is Ayn Rand: https://www.google.ca/search?q=mark+cuban+ayn+randie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-achannel=sbgfe_rd=crei=NUhlVKGZJKibkgLHhoGgDA Juvenile philosophy. On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: http://reason.com/blog/2014/11/13/markcuban-on-net-neutrality-the-governme - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP power limits
I don't like omnis Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 13, 2014 8:04 PM, Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com wrote: this is why i prefer 450 over epmp on omnis, cant hit legal eirp with the omni Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Nov 13, 2014, at 7:21 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Neat pop up!!! This is a nonsync integrated unit. 19:00:28 The Transmitter Output Power limitations 5.x GHz bands are: For ETSI and FCC regions: 5.1-5.2 GHz: 18 dBm 5.47-5.725 GHz: 13-16 dBm 5.725-5.88 GHz: 23 dBm For other regions: 5.1-5.47 GHz: 27 dBm 5.47-5.88 GHz: 30 dBm Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
[AFMUG] Issue with SNMP OID .1.3.6.1.4.1.161.19.3.2.1.1.0
13.2 Users, There is an issue with the following SNMP OID to set the frequency list on an SM. .1.3.6.1.4.1.161.19.3.2.1.1.0 For Example: snmpset -v 2c -c Canopy 169.254.1.1 .1.3.6.1.4.1.161.19.3.2.1.1.0 s 548000 If this OID is used to set aa frequency on an SM, it will cause the SM to crash. After the SM reboots, the list of frequencies listed the SNMP set will not be set on the SM. We have carefully reviewed the code, and this is the only OID effected. This issue is being tracked under Issue Number CPY-10392 and is slated to 13.3 for repair. We apologize for any inconvenience that this may have caused. Sincerely, The Cambium Team
Re: [AFMUG] Dumb interference question.
Yeah, I spoke with someone that works in another aspect of the wireless industry and he said the same thing. George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: We are co-located with 450 SCADA on a couple sites without problems. I'm thinking they'd need to be putting out a LOT of power for harmonics to come into play. Unless there's maybe like a mismatched antenna or something. Also, it just so happens that 915x4 = 3660. I have several 900APs right next to 3650 APs and do not see any problem there. I have even set up a 900AP at full power and a 3GHz 450AP right next to each other on the bench and the SA on the 450 sees nothing. On 11/13/2014 1:39 PM, Jay Weekley via Af wrote: We are having problems with a Canopy 900 deployment on a water tank and it's had us stumped for a while. There is another Canopy 900 operator about a half mile away that doesn't seem to have the same problems and we've even looked at his ap and verified that fact. The only gear the water department says they have is for monitoring and operates on 451 and 456 MHz. I've /think /heard of interference caused by radios that operate in other frequencies especially if they are in some divisor or multiple of another radio. For example, since 456 MHz is roughly half of 900 is there a scenario where it could cause us problems?
Re: [AFMUG] Mark Cuban on Net Neutrality: The Government Will Fuck the Internet Up
Well, yes, we have done a couple things right. WW1, WW2 and old NASA. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:05:54 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mark Cuban on Net Neutrality: The Government Will Fuck the Internet Up USA: WWI WW II Back-To-Back Champs On 11/13/2014 03:56 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: WWII came out better than most people expected. bp part-15@SkylineBroadbandService On 11/13/2014 4:29 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: blockquote What hasn't the government fucked up? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 18:10:08 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mark Cuban on Net Neutrality: The Government Will Fuck the Internet Up considering that mark cuban's hero is Ayn Rand: https://www.google.ca/search?q=mark+cuban+ayn+randie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-achannel=sbgfe_rd=crei=NUhlVKGZJKibkgLHhoGgDA Juvenile philosophy. On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: blockquote http://reason.com/blog/2014/11/13/markcuban-on-net-neutrality-the-governme - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com /blockquote /blockquote -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
[AFMUG] UBNT 24 Bounce
Guys, Seeing a 24ghz bouncing and throwing low bandwidth numbers. Session and throughput graphs look great when up. Cable pairs are like 26-29 snr. Ericsson said an LTE sector started acting up. Clearly different RF but seems odd. New terminations and power supplies. No luck. Bypass surge protection same result Sent from my iPhone
