Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Powerbox
Just asked our guy, and we got ours from baltic. They are r2 version. On Jun 17, 2015 5:53 PM, Steve Utick sut...@gmail.com wrote: We just got some in for a project the other day, but unsure of what version and where they came from. I can check with the guy in the office that ordered them tomorrow and see where he got them. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: Anyone know if these are available, and if so who has stock? Thanks. Jason
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Powerbox
Just add fiber capabilities to it, instead of “feeding” it with Cat5E. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Utick Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 10:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Powerbox Just asked our guy, and we got ours from baltic. They are r2 version. On Jun 17, 2015 5:53 PM, Steve Utick sut...@gmail.commailto:sut...@gmail.com wrote: We just got some in for a project the other day, but unsure of what version and where they came from. I can check with the guy in the office that ordered them tomorrow and see where he got them. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.commailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: Anyone know if these are available, and if so who has stock? Thanks. Jason
Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras
Can you post a pic of the camera during the day and of it washed out at night? We've had to tweek the video settings on some of the cameras. If you have an Android phone/tablet, you can download their free app to view your cameras remotely. We have Apple and use the IP Cam Viewer app which is nice. I'll look into the remote DVR issue for you. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: OK, bought a couple of the more expensive grandstream cameras and their DVR device. The cameras are really washed out by our security lights at night. I got the expensive night IR model hoping to capture traffic at night. But the ambient light is too much for the BW IR mode and not enough for regular color daylight mode. The thing that really bugs me is our inability to see the video remotely. If on site it works OK but if I log into the DVR it allows access but the screen is just black. No camera video is visible. Grandstream has not been helpful. So, shall I try another brand of camera? Have not tried any of the UBNT stuff. I have a cheap system from Harbor Freight that while is extremely low res and has noise on some of the channels actually works well enough for many things. (If nothing more than scaring away bad guys by the presence of the cameras.)
[AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras
OK, bought a couple of the more expensive grandstream cameras and their DVR device. The cameras are really washed out by our security lights at night. I got the expensive night IR model hoping to capture traffic at night. But the ambient light is too much for the BW IR mode and not enough for regular color daylight mode. The thing that really bugs me is our inability to see the video remotely. If on site it works OK but if I log into the DVR it allows access but the screen is just black. No camera video is visible. Grandstream has not been helpful. So, shall I try another brand of camera? Have not tried any of the UBNT stuff. I have a cheap system from Harbor Freight that while is extremely low res and has noise on some of the channels actually works well enough for many things. (If nothing more than scaring away bad guys by the presence of the cameras.)
Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras
I could post a pic if I could get into the system. (Not on site most of the time). From: mailto:p...@believewireless.net Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:18 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras Can you post a pic of the camera during the day and of it washed out at night? We've had to tweek the video settings on some of the cameras. If you have an Android phone/tablet, you can download their free app to view your cameras remotely. We have Apple and use the IP Cam Viewer app which is nice. I'll look into the remote DVR issue for you. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: OK, bought a couple of the more expensive grandstream cameras and their DVR device. The cameras are really washed out by our security lights at night. I got the expensive night IR model hoping to capture traffic at night. But the ambient light is too much for the BW IR mode and not enough for regular color daylight mode. The thing that really bugs me is our inability to see the video remotely. If on site it works OK but if I log into the DVR it allows access but the screen is just black. No camera video is visible. Grandstream has not been helpful. So, shall I try another brand of camera? Have not tried any of the UBNT stuff. I have a cheap system from Harbor Freight that while is extremely low res and has noise on some of the channels actually works well enough for many things. (If nothing more than scaring away bad guys by the presence of the cameras.)
[AFMUG] is 172 address an real world ip?
Hey guys Frontier as given me an 172.76.3.xx public static IP and I just want to know if this actually an real IP or just an internal IP? Because the person I am working with from frontier saying its an public static IP. Because I though 172.x space is for internal setup only. Tim
Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras
It's definitely a NAT issue. Does your router support UPNP? Did you enable it in Settings-Network Settings-Advanced Settings? On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I could post a pic if I could get into the system. (Not on site most of the time). *From:* mailto:p...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:18 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras Can you post a pic of the camera during the day and of it washed out at night? We've had to tweek the video settings on some of the cameras. If you have an Android phone/tablet, you can download their free app to view your cameras remotely. We have Apple and use the IP Cam Viewer app which is nice. I'll look into the remote DVR issue for you. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: OK, bought a couple of the more expensive grandstream cameras and their DVR device. The cameras are really washed out by our security lights at night. I got the expensive night IR model hoping to capture traffic at night. But the ambient light is too much for the BW IR mode and not enough for regular color daylight mode. The thing that really bugs me is our inability to see the video remotely. If on site it works OK but if I log into the DVR it allows access but the screen is just black. No camera video is visible. Grandstream has not been helpful. So, shall I try another brand of camera? Have not tried any of the UBNT stuff. I have a cheap system from Harbor Freight that while is extremely low res and has noise on some of the channels actually works well enough for many things. (If nothing more than scaring away bad guys by the presence of the cameras.)
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Powerbox
You still need to feed power to it somehow, though. Most of the time when we use these, I don't even care about having data to the ground. I ran into the same problem with the long cable setting... it took me awhile to figure that out. They seem to be more sensitive to cable length than the RB750UP. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: Just add fiber capabilities to it, instead of “feeding” it with Cat5E. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Utick *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2015 10:29 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Powerbox Just asked our guy, and we got ours from baltic. They are r2 version. On Jun 17, 2015 5:53 PM, Steve Utick sut...@gmail.com wrote: We just got some in for a project the other day, but unsure of what version and where they came from. I can check with the guy in the office that ordered them tomorrow and see where he got them. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: Anyone know if these are available, and if so who has stock? Thanks. Jason
Re: [AFMUG] is 172 address an real world ip?
172.16.0.0/12 is the private space. So yes, what you have is a globally routable address. On 6/18/2015 11:17 AM, Tim Reichhart wrote: Hey guys Frontier as given me an 172.76.3.xx public static IP and I just want to know if this actually an real IP or just an internal IP? Because the person I am working with from frontier saying its an public static IP. Because I though 172.x space is for internal setup only. Tim
Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest way to run ethernet in conduit
1/2 PVC $1.59 / 10' http://www.homedepot.com/p/JM-eagle-1-2-in-x-10-ft-PVC-Schedule-40-Conduit-67447/100122861 PVC cement http://www.homedepot.com/p/Oatey-8-oz-PVC-Cement-310133/100345577 bucket of pull string http://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-6-500-ft-Pulling-Line-56110/100660172 Feed string through pipe while you put the sections together. Secure sections via solvent weld with PVC cement. On 6/18/2015 12:27 PM, Darin Steffl wrote: Hey guys, What is the most cost effective conduit you've used for cable runs from a pole mount to their house. There is one run that keeps getting eaten through by animals and it needs to go in conduit. It's about 350 feet and looking for the cheapest conduit possible that will hold the Cat5. What are you all using and what is rough cost per foot? What is the best way to get the cable through the conduit smoothly at long distances? Thank you -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com http://www.mnwifi.com/ 507-634-WiFi http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi Like us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi
Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] [SPAM] Cheapest way to run ethernet in conduit
We have used http://www.homedepot.com/p/DIG-1-2-in-x-500-ft-Poly-Drip-Tubing-B37/100163329 Lay it out on the pavement on a warm day to make it loose the twisties. Suck a string through with a vacuum and then pull a cable through it. You an push cable through as well but I have never gotten more than 150 feet before I had to cut the tube. Couplings are cheap: http://www.homedepot.com/p/DIG-1-2-in-0-700-O-D-Compression-Coupling-C33/100112407 We had this snaked through blackberry bushes with a healthy rodent population for several years. The only thing that ever got through was the home-owners wife pushing hot embers over the retaining wall the cable ran along the bottom of. Melty fun. ryan On 6/18/15 9:27 AM, Darin Steffl wrote: Hey guys, What is the most cost effective conduit you've used for cable runs from a pole mount to their house. There is one run that keeps getting eaten through by animals and it needs to go in conduit. It's about 350 feet and looking for the cheapest conduit possible that will hold the Cat5. What are you all using and what is rough cost per foot? What is the best way to get the cable through the conduit smoothly at long distances? Thank you -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com http://www.mnwifi.com/ 507-634-WiFi http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi Like us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi ___ Members mailing list memb...@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members -- D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc broadband | telco | colo | communities PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294 425-939-0047
Re: [AFMUG] is 172 address an real world ip?
I still have two IPs on our routed network present because of that mistake by the guy before me. was strange when traceroutes started showing sbcglobal visual traceroutes showed a hop to california. that subnet was at one point on all our infrastructure, its been painful cleaning it up. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Idiots. I have a customer that had some local guy show up and use 90.0.0.0/24 in their local network. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 18, 2015 12:33 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies m...@mailmt.com wrote: Just playing devils advocate... How many mis-configured routers are out there thinking 172.16.x.x is all private? -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL Please Donate at Please Donate at http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html -- Thursday, June 18, 2015, 12:20:07 PM, you wrote: GS 172.16.0.0/12 is the private space. So yes, what you have is GS aglobally routable address. GS On 6/18/2015 11:17 AM, Tim Reichhart wrote: GS Hey guys GS Frontier as given me an 172.76.3.xx public static IP GS and I just want to know if this actually an real IP or GS just an internal IP? Because the person I am working with GS from frontier saying its an public static IP. Because I though GS 172.x space is for internal setup only. GS ￜ GS Tim GS ￜ GS ￜ --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras
I have use Axis before with good results. This is a case of you get what you pay for. I don’t want to pay Axis prices. From: Carl Peterson Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:59 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras The Axis low light cameras work really well for situations like that where you have street lights etc. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I could post a pic if I could get into the system. (Not on site most of the time). From: mailto:p...@believewireless.net Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:18 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras Can you post a pic of the camera during the day and of it washed out at night? We've had to tweek the video settings on some of the cameras. If you have an Android phone/tablet, you can download their free app to view your cameras remotely. We have Apple and use the IP Cam Viewer app which is nice. I'll look into the remote DVR issue for you. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: OK, bought a couple of the more expensive grandstream cameras and their DVR device. The cameras are really washed out by our security lights at night. I got the expensive night IR model hoping to capture traffic at night. But the ambient light is too much for the BW IR mode and not enough for regular color daylight mode. The thing that really bugs me is our inability to see the video remotely. If on site it works OK but if I log into the DVR it allows access but the screen is just black. No camera video is visible. Grandstream has not been helpful. So, shall I try another brand of camera? Have not tried any of the UBNT stuff. I have a cheap system from Harbor Freight that while is extremely low res and has noise on some of the channels actually works well enough for many things. (If nothing more than scaring away bad guys by the presence of the cameras.) -- Carl Peterson PORT NETWORKS 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707
Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras
We're using IPPower cameras and they also seem to do pretty good. We have some at a tower site. One is outside facing the shelter door that has a light over it that likes to flicker and then shut down I assume because of overheating or something. The camera is maybe 4-5 feet away from it. Seems to adjust to light changes pretty fast and smooth. Might take a second or two for the IR to kick on, but that's about it. We've also installed some of their HD PTZs with long-range IR floods at some parks and other places. They're expensive ($1k) but the picture is amazing. From what the guys have showed me, we can zoom like 450 feet with clarity. All I could say was, OK, turn the frame-rate down because you're pulling 30Mbps. :) #BandwidthNazi On 6/18/2015 10:59 AM, Carl Peterson wrote: The Axis low light cameras work really well for situations like that where you have street lights etc. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I could post a pic if I could get into the system. (Not on site most of the time). *From:* mailto:p...@believewireless.net *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:18 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras Can you post a pic of the camera during the day and of it washed out at night? We've had to tweek the video settings on some of the cameras. If you have an Android phone/tablet, you can download their free app to view your cameras remotely. We have Apple and use the IP Cam Viewer app which is nice. I'll look into the remote DVR issue for you. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: OK, bought a couple of the more expensive grandstream cameras and their DVR device. The cameras are really washed out by our security lights at night. I got the expensive night IR model hoping to capture traffic at night. But the ambient light is too much for the BW IR mode and not enough for regular color daylight mode. The thing that really bugs me is our inability to see the video remotely. If on site it works OK but if I log into the DVR it allows access but the screen is just black. No camera video is visible. Grandstream has not been helpful. So, shall I try another brand of camera? Have not tried any of the UBNT stuff. I have a cheap system from Harbor Freight that while is extremely low res and has noise on some of the channels actually works well enough for many things. (If nothing more than scaring away bad guys by the presence of the cameras.) -- Carl Peterson *PORT NETWORKS* 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707
Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras
For the video settings, go into camera and select the configuration icon. Then go to System-Video Audio and make sure the outdoor light setting is selected. Then go to CMOS Settings and adjust the parameters to get the picture you want. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:17 PM, can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net wrote: It's definitely a NAT issue. Does your router support UPNP? Did you enable it in Settings-Network Settings-Advanced Settings? On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I could post a pic if I could get into the system. (Not on site most of the time). *From:* mailto:p...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:18 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras Can you post a pic of the camera during the day and of it washed out at night? We've had to tweek the video settings on some of the cameras. If you have an Android phone/tablet, you can download their free app to view your cameras remotely. We have Apple and use the IP Cam Viewer app which is nice. I'll look into the remote DVR issue for you. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: OK, bought a couple of the more expensive grandstream cameras and their DVR device. The cameras are really washed out by our security lights at night. I got the expensive night IR model hoping to capture traffic at night. But the ambient light is too much for the BW IR mode and not enough for regular color daylight mode. The thing that really bugs me is our inability to see the video remotely. If on site it works OK but if I log into the DVR it allows access but the screen is just black. No camera video is visible. Grandstream has not been helpful. So, shall I try another brand of camera? Have not tried any of the UBNT stuff. I have a cheap system from Harbor Freight that while is extremely low res and has noise on some of the channels actually works well enough for many things. (If nothing more than scaring away bad guys by the presence of the cameras.)
Re: [AFMUG] Nest camera
They're comparing bits per second to bytes per month? *sigh* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Harold Bledsoe hbledso...@gmail.com To: members memb...@wispa.org, af af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:53:38 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Nest camera http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/17/nest-launches-a-camera-meet-the-nest-cam/ I dunno about your areas, but around here Nest (was Dropcam) cameras are becoming prolific. This saturates the upload on many broadband plans. I know first-hand because my parents were complaining about slow internet. The constant streaming video upload was the reason. On VZ homefusion, this could cost up to $3500/mo not counting other usage. :-) I guess the point is, folks seem to want video in both directions... Table 1. Typical upload bandwidth usage for a Nest Cam without Nest Aware Table 2. Typical upload bandwidth usage for a Nest Cam with Nest Aware -- Harold Bledsoe
Re: [AFMUG] is 172 address an real world ip?
Idiots. I have a customer that had some local guy show up and use 90.0.0.0/24 in their local network. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 18, 2015 12:33 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies m...@mailmt.com wrote: Just playing devils advocate... How many mis-configured routers are out there thinking 172.16.x.x is all private? -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL Please Donate at Please Donate at http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html -- Thursday, June 18, 2015, 12:20:07 PM, you wrote: GS 172.16.0.0/12 is the private space. So yes, what you have is GS aglobally routable address. GS On 6/18/2015 11:17 AM, Tim Reichhart wrote: GS Hey guys GS Frontier as given me an 172.76.3.xx public static IP GS and I just want to know if this actually an real IP or GS just an internal IP? Because the person I am working with GS from frontier saying its an public static IP. Because I though GS 172.x space is for internal setup only. GS ￜ GS Tim GS ￜ GS ￜ --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras
Problem is, for the price of an Axis camera, you could hire a night watchman. From: Carl Peterson Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 10:59 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras The Axis low light cameras work really well for situations like that where you have street lights etc. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I could post a pic if I could get into the system. (Not on site most of the time). From: mailto:p...@believewireless.net Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:18 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras Can you post a pic of the camera during the day and of it washed out at night? We've had to tweek the video settings on some of the cameras. If you have an Android phone/tablet, you can download their free app to view your cameras remotely. We have Apple and use the IP Cam Viewer app which is nice. I'll look into the remote DVR issue for you. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: OK, bought a couple of the more expensive grandstream cameras and their DVR device. The cameras are really washed out by our security lights at night. I got the expensive night IR model hoping to capture traffic at night. But the ambient light is too much for the BW IR mode and not enough for regular color daylight mode. The thing that really bugs me is our inability to see the video remotely. If on site it works OK but if I log into the DVR it allows access but the screen is just black. No camera video is visible. Grandstream has not been helpful. So, shall I try another brand of camera? Have not tried any of the UBNT stuff. I have a cheap system from Harbor Freight that while is extremely low res and has noise on some of the channels actually works well enough for many things. (If nothing more than scaring away bad guys by the presence of the cameras.) -- Carl Peterson PORT NETWORKS 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707
[AFMUG] Cheapest way to run ethernet in conduit
Hey guys, What is the most cost effective conduit you've used for cable runs from a pole mount to their house. There is one run that keeps getting eaten through by animals and it needs to go in conduit. It's about 350 feet and looking for the cheapest conduit possible that will hold the Cat5. What are you all using and what is rough cost per foot? What is the best way to get the cable through the conduit smoothly at long distances? Thank you -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi Like us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi
Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras
I've also used the DVR over RDP without any issues.
Re: [AFMUG] is 172 address an real world ip?
That Other Guy who came before That One Guyyeah to hell with him. On 6/18/2015 1:02 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: I still have two IPs on our routed network present because of that mistake by the guy before me. was strange when traceroutes started showing sbcglobal visual traceroutes showed a hop to california. that subnet was at one point on all our infrastructure, its been painful cleaning it up. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Idiots. I have a customer that had some local guy show up and use 90.0.0.0/24 http://90.0.0.0/24 in their local network. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 18, 2015 12:33 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies m...@mailmt.com mailto:m...@mailmt.com wrote: Just playing devils advocate... How many mis-configured routers are out there thinking 172.16.x.x is all private? -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com http://www.MyakkaTech.com Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL Please Donate at Please Donate at http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html -- Thursday, June 18, 2015, 12:20:07 PM, you wrote: GS 172.16.0.0/12 http://172.16.0.0/12 is the private space. So yes, what you have is GS aglobally routable address. GS On 6/18/2015 11:17 AM, Tim Reichhart wrote: GS Hey guys GS Frontier as given me an 172.76.3.xx public static IP GS and I just want to know if this actually an real IP or GS just an internal IP? Because the person I am working with GS from frontier saying its an public static IP. Because I though GS 172.x space is for internal setup only. GS ￜ GS Tim GS ￜ GS ￜ --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Nest camera
I dont feel bad for people that dont research things before they buy, and usually pay somebody to install. Connected world is not free. I get a kick out of the people who get their bills from both their internet provider and their cell provider after they install a bunch of high definition cameras and watch them constantly on their mobile device. If you want to know whats going on at home in real time, go home, otherwise check the DVR On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Harold Bledsoe hbledso...@gmail.com wrote: http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/17/nest-launches-a-camera-meet-the-nest-cam/ I dunno about your areas, but around here Nest (was Dropcam) cameras are becoming prolific. This saturates the upload on many broadband plans. I know first-hand because my parents were complaining about slow internet. The constant streaming video upload was the reason. On VZ homefusion, this could cost up to $3500/mo not counting other usage. :-) I guess the point is, folks seem to want video in both directions... Table 1. Typical upload bandwidth usage for a Nest Cam without Nest Aware Table 2. Typical upload bandwidth usage for a Nest Cam with Nest Aware -- Harold Bledsoe -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras
The Axis low light cameras work really well for situations like that where you have street lights etc. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I could post a pic if I could get into the system. (Not on site most of the time). *From:* mailto:p...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:18 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras Can you post a pic of the camera during the day and of it washed out at night? We've had to tweek the video settings on some of the cameras. If you have an Android phone/tablet, you can download their free app to view your cameras remotely. We have Apple and use the IP Cam Viewer app which is nice. I'll look into the remote DVR issue for you. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: OK, bought a couple of the more expensive grandstream cameras and their DVR device. The cameras are really washed out by our security lights at night. I got the expensive night IR model hoping to capture traffic at night. But the ambient light is too much for the BW IR mode and not enough for regular color daylight mode. The thing that really bugs me is our inability to see the video remotely. If on site it works OK but if I log into the DVR it allows access but the screen is just black. No camera video is visible. Grandstream has not been helpful. So, shall I try another brand of camera? Have not tried any of the UBNT stuff. I have a cheap system from Harbor Freight that while is extremely low res and has noise on some of the channels actually works well enough for many things. (If nothing more than scaring away bad guys by the presence of the cameras.) -- Carl Peterson *PORT NETWORKS* 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707
Re: [AFMUG] is 172 address an real world ip?
Public. Highest private is: 172.31.255.255 On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Hey guys Frontier as given me an 172.76.3.xx public static IP and I just want to know if this actually an real IP or just an internal IP? Because the person I am working with from frontier saying its an public static IP. Because I though 172.x space is for internal setup only. Tim
Re: [AFMUG] is 172 address an real world ip?
Yes some 172 are publicly routable Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] is 172 address an real world ip? Date: Thu, Jun 18, 2015 12:17 PM Hey guysFrontier as given me an 172.76.3.xx public static IP and I just want to know if this actually an real IP or just an internal IP? Because the person I am working with from frontier saying its an public static IP. Because I though 172.x space is for internal setup only. Tim
Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] [SPAM] Cheapest way to run ethernet in conduit
If its rodents, they can chew through pvc pretty easy, liquitite with the metal innards would be good but expensive, we have had alot of chewing so we went to bbdge, they dont even seem to be interested in the outer sheath, and couldnt get to the wire through the copper shield. I always wondered if theyre not attracted the ethernet frequency and the copper shield sit from them so they leave it alone On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:40 AM, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@ngc457.com wrote: We have used http://www.homedepot.com/p/DIG-1-2-in-x-500-ft-Poly-Drip-Tubing-B37/100163329 Lay it out on the pavement on a warm day to make it loose the twisties. Suck a string through with a vacuum and then pull a cable through it. You an push cable through as well but I have never gotten more than 150 feet before I had to cut the tube. Couplings are cheap: http://www.homedepot.com/p/DIG-1-2-in-0-700-O-D-Compression-Coupling-C33/100112407 We had this snaked through blackberry bushes with a healthy rodent population for several years. The only thing that ever got through was the home-owners wife pushing hot embers over the retaining wall the cable ran along the bottom of. Melty fun. ryan On 6/18/15 9:27 AM, Darin Steffl wrote: Hey guys, What is the most cost effective conduit you've used for cable runs from a pole mount to their house. There is one run that keeps getting eaten through by animals and it needs to go in conduit. It's about 350 feet and looking for the cheapest conduit possible that will hold the Cat5. What are you all using and what is rough cost per foot? What is the best way to get the cable through the conduit smoothly at long distances? Thank you -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi�Like us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi ___ Members mailing listMembers@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members -- D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc broadband | telco | colo | communities PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294425-939-0047 -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] is 172 address an real world ip?
On 6/18/15 9:17, Tim Reichhart wrote: Hey guys Frontier as given me an 172.76.3.xx public static IP and I just want to know if this actually an real IP or just an internal IP? Because the person I am working with from frontier saying its an public static IP. Because I though 172.x space is for internal setup only. 172.16.0.0/12 is 1918 space. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras
UPNP = evil Here, cheap piece of crap from China, do whatever you want with my firewall, and no need to tell me. From: mailto:p...@believewireless.net Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:17 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras It's definitely a NAT issue. Does your router support UPNP? Did you enable it in Settings-Network Settings-Advanced Settings? On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I could post a pic if I could get into the system. (Not on site most of the time). From: mailto:p...@believewireless.net Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:18 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras Can you post a pic of the camera during the day and of it washed out at night? We've had to tweek the video settings on some of the cameras. If you have an Android phone/tablet, you can download their free app to view your cameras remotely. We have Apple and use the IP Cam Viewer app which is nice. I'll look into the remote DVR issue for you. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: OK, bought a couple of the more expensive grandstream cameras and their DVR device. The cameras are really washed out by our security lights at night. I got the expensive night IR model hoping to capture traffic at night. But the ambient light is too much for the BW IR mode and not enough for regular color daylight mode. The thing that really bugs me is our inability to see the video remotely. If on site it works OK but if I log into the DVR it allows access but the screen is just black. No camera video is visible. Grandstream has not been helpful. So, shall I try another brand of camera? Have not tried any of the UBNT stuff. I have a cheap system from Harbor Freight that while is extremely low res and has noise on some of the channels actually works well enough for many things. (If nothing more than scaring away bad guys by the presence of the cameras.)
Re: [AFMUG] is 172 address an real world ip?
Just playing devils advocate... How many mis-configured routers are out there thinking 172.16.x.x is all private? -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL Please Donate at Please Donate at http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html -- Thursday, June 18, 2015, 12:20:07 PM, you wrote: GS 172.16.0.0/12 is the private space. So yes, what you have is GS aglobally routable address. GS On 6/18/2015 11:17 AM, Tim Reichhart wrote: GS Hey guys GS Frontier as given me an 172.76.3.xx public static IP GS and I just want to know if this actually an real IP or GS just an internal IP? Because the person I am working with GS from frontier saying its an public static IP. Because I though GS 172.x space is for internal setup only. GS ￜ GS Tim GS ￜ GS ￜ --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
[AFMUG] Nest camera
http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/17/nest-launches-a-camera-meet-the-nest-cam/ I dunno about your areas, but around here Nest (was Dropcam) cameras are becoming prolific. This saturates the upload on many broadband plans. I know first-hand because my parents were complaining about slow internet. The constant streaming video upload was the reason. On VZ homefusion, this could cost up to $3500/mo not counting other usage. :-) I guess the point is, folks seem to want video in both directions... Table 1. Typical upload bandwidth usage for a Nest Cam without Nest Aware Table 2. Typical upload bandwidth usage for a Nest Cam with Nest Aware -- Harold Bledsoe
Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest way to run ethernet in conduit
1 water pipe. A 600' roll is like $70, no damn joints to deal with. Easy to pull through. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com To: af@afmug.com, memb...@wispa.org, Principal WISPA Member List w...@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:27:28 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Cheapest way to run ethernet in conduit Hey guys, What is the most cost effective conduit you've used for cable runs from a pole mount to their house. There is one run that keeps getting eaten through by animals and it needs to go in conduit. It's about 350 feet and looking for the cheapest conduit possible that will hold the Cat5. What are you all using and what is rough cost per foot? What is the best way to get the cable through the conduit smoothly at long distances? Thank you -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook
Re: [AFMUG] is 172 address an real world ip?
ROFL...! I have seen some stupid configs before but yeah that takes the cake. You should of pulled a Chef Ramsey on him :) On 06/18/2015 11:50 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Idiots. I have a customer that had some local guy show up and use 90.0.0.0/24 http://90.0.0.0/24 in their local network. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 18, 2015 12:33 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies m...@mailmt.com mailto:m...@mailmt.com wrote: Just playing devils advocate... How many mis-configured routers are out there thinking 172.16.x.x is all private? -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com http://www.MyakkaTech.com Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL Please Donate at Please Donate at http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html -- Thursday, June 18, 2015, 12:20:07 PM, you wrote: GS 172.16.0.0/12 http://172.16.0.0/12 is the private space. So yes, what you have is GS aglobally routable address. GS On 6/18/2015 11:17 AM, Tim Reichhart wrote: GS Hey guys GS Frontier as given me an 172.76.3.xx public static IP GS and I just want to know if this actually an real IP or GS just an internal IP? Because the person I am working with GS from frontier saying its an public static IP. Because I though GS 172.x space is for internal setup only. GS ￜ GS Tim GS ￜ GS ￜ --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Powerbox
I'm assuming that means they already sold all they got... I think I have some on order from Streakwave, but I haven't heard anything from them yet. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: Baltic shows preorder only. On Thursday, June 18, 2015, Steve Utick sut...@gmail.com wrote: Just asked our guy, and we got ours from baltic. They are r2 version. On Jun 17, 2015 5:53 PM, Steve Utick sut...@gmail.com wrote: We just got some in for a project the other day, but unsure of what version and where they came from. I can check with the guy in the office that ordered them tomorrow and see where he got them. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: Anyone know if these are available, and if so who has stock? Thanks. Jason
Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2
I wouldn't deploy RB493s, they limit your MTU. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 1:48:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 How small of a site though? 493G is ok for 100mbps+ Nothing I'd recommend, currently. the RB3011 should be here in the next couple weeks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:40:39 PM Subject: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 whats a comparable 8 or so port unit to this? Small footprint for tiny sites and tiny enclosures -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
[AFMUG] OT - Do you get this?
Tammy Faye Bakker was suffering shortness of breath at the end of a telecast. They feared she was having a heart attack. So an ambulance was called and they rushed her to the hospital. In prepping her for an EKG and oxygen, they removed her makeup. Guess what they discovered. Jimmy Hoffa! (If you do indeed get this or remember this old joke the first time around, you must have a few gray hairs).
Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest way to run ethernet in conduit
It helps if you heat and bend the conduit instead of using the 90* elbows.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 1:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest way to run ethernet in conduit
I've used 1/2 PVC conduit, and over 100' or so, it's a PITA. I usually
recommend 3/4 conduit (and it's not that much more than 1/2). Note that Home
Depot provides an additional discount once you go over a certain length.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 6/18/2015 9:32 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
1/2 PVC
$1.59 / 10'
http://www.homedepot.com/p/JM-eagle-1-2-in-x-10-ft-PVC-Schedule-40-Conduit-67447/100122861
PVC cement
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Oatey-8-oz-PVC-Cement-310133/100345577
bucket of pull string
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-6-500-ft-Pulling-Line-56110/100660172
Feed string through pipe while you put the sections together. Secure
sections via solvent weld with PVC cement.
On 6/18/2015 12:27 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:
Hey guys,
What is the most cost effective conduit you've used for cable runs from a
pole mount to their house. There is one run that keeps getting eaten through by
animals and it needs to go in conduit. It's about 350 feet and looking for the
cheapest conduit possible that will hold the Cat5.
What are you all using and what is rough cost per foot?
What is the best way to get the cable through the conduit smoothly at long
distances?
Thank you
--
Darin Steffl
Minnesota WiFi
www.mnwifi.com
507-634-WiFi
Like us on Facebook
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Powerbox
Baltic shows preorder only. On Thursday, June 18, 2015, Steve Utick sut...@gmail.com wrote: Just asked our guy, and we got ours from baltic. They are r2 version. On Jun 17, 2015 5:53 PM, Steve Utick sut...@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sut...@gmail.com'); wrote: We just got some in for a project the other day, but unsure of what version and where they came from. I can check with the guy in the office that ordered them tomorrow and see where he got them. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com'); wrote: Anyone know if these are available, and if so who has stock? Thanks. Jason
Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2
Nothing I'd recommend, currently. the RB3011 should be here in the next couple weeks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:40:39 PM Subject: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 whats a comparable 8 or so port unit to this? Small footprint for tiny sites and tiny enclosures -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2
Are money and power ever not an object :-) We are eliminating two HP switches at many of these sites with these, Even though Im stuck with AC off battery APC UPSs Im trying to get our run times as high as possible I would prefer they come in less on cost and power than the 1100ah2, otherwise we will just make those fit. The enclosure dimensions are 36x36x10. I prefer to put it in horizontally/flat with the rb1100ah2 if I use a 90 degree power cord that leaves me just a little over 2 inches for the ethernet bend, which I can get away with but would prefer a little less tight and not to have patch cords against the door. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: There’s the CCR1009-8G-1S-1S+PC if money and power consumption are no object. *From:* Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2015 1:48 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 How small of a site though? 493G is ok for 100mbps+ Nothing I'd recommend, currently. the RB3011 should be here in the next couple weeks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *That One Guy /sarcasm mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:40:39 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 whats a comparable 8 or so port unit to this? Small footprint for tiny sites and tiny enclosures -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Powerbox
Streakwave is saying 3+ months... On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: I'm assuming that means they already sold all they got... I think I have some on order from Streakwave, but I haven't heard anything from them yet. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: Baltic shows preorder only. On Thursday, June 18, 2015, Steve Utick sut...@gmail.com wrote: Just asked our guy, and we got ours from baltic. They are r2 version. On Jun 17, 2015 5:53 PM, Steve Utick sut...@gmail.com wrote: We just got some in for a project the other day, but unsure of what version and where they came from. I can check with the guy in the office that ordered them tomorrow and see where he got them. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: Anyone know if these are available, and if so who has stock? Thanks. Jason
Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest way to run ethernet in conduit
You got a link for that? Everything I'm looking at is way more than $70.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 6/18/2015 10:19 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
1 water pipe. A 600' roll is like $70, no damn joints to deal with.
Easy to pull through.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
*From: *Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com
*To: *af@afmug.com, memb...@wispa.org, Principal WISPA Member List
w...@wispa.org
*Sent: *Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:27:28 AM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Cheapest way to run ethernet in conduit
Hey guys,
What is the most cost effective conduit you've used for cable runs
from a pole mount to their house. There is one run that keeps getting
eaten through by animals and it needs to go in conduit. It's about 350
feet and looking for the cheapest conduit possible that will hold the
Cat5.
What are you all using and what is rough cost per foot?
What is the best way to get the cable through the conduit smoothly at
long distances?
Thank you
--
Darin Steffl
Minnesota WiFi
www.mnwifi.com http://www.mnwifi.com/
507-634-WiFi
http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi Like us on Facebook
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Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest way to run ethernet in conduit
Either they changed or my memory is off.
http://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/rough-plumbing/pipe-tubing-hoses-fittings-accessories/pipe/polypipe/c-8570.htm?priceMax_facet=100criteria2_facet=1inipp=100sortby=priceAsc
My brother was just getting some within the past couple weeks, so I couldn't
have been off that much.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:29:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest way to run ethernet in conduit
You got a link for that? Everything I'm looking at is way more than $70.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 6/18/2015 10:19 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
1 water pipe. A 600' roll is like $70, no damn joints to deal with. Easy to
pull through.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com
To: af@afmug.com , memb...@wispa.org , Principal WISPA Member List
w...@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:27:28 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Cheapest way to run ethernet in conduit
Hey guys,
What is the most cost effective conduit you've used for cable runs from a pole
mount to their house. There is one run that keeps getting eaten through by
animals and it needs to go in conduit. It's about 350 feet and looking for the
cheapest conduit possible that will hold the Cat5.
What are you all using and what is rough cost per foot?
What is the best way to get the cable through the conduit smoothly at long
distances?
Thank you
--
Darin Steffl
Minnesota WiFi
www.mnwifi.com
507-634-WiFi
Like us on Facebook
Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Maximum_Transmission_Unit_on_RouterBoards - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:24:57 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 2011? Similar CPU. On 6/18/2015 2:51 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I wouldn't deploy RB493s, they limit your MTU. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 1:48:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 How small of a site though? 493G is ok for 100mbps+ blockquote Nothing I'd recommend, currently. the RB3011 should be here in the next couple weeks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:40:39 PM Subject: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 whats a comparable 8 or so port unit to this? Small footprint for tiny sites and tiny enclosures -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest way to run ethernet in conduit
I think the yellow and blue pipe both cost more than the black, but I couldn't
find the black 1x600. Maybe it's only occasionally available?
*shrugs* Either way, it's a better proposition at twice the price than the
individual sticks are.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:37:21 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest way to run ethernet in conduit
I assumed he meant something like this, but it’s more than $70:
http://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/rough-plumbing/pipe-tubing-hoses-fittings-accessories/pipe/polypipe/1-x-600-100-psi-irrigation-pipe-yellow-label/p-1454983-c-19493.htm
This is $70 but only 300 feet:
http://www.farmandfleet.com/products/066744-advanced-drainage-systems-300-psi-poly-pipe-100-psi.html
Maybe you get a discount with a farm account.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:29 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest way to run ethernet in conduit
You got a link for that? Everything I'm looking at is way more than $70.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 6/18/2015 10:19 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
1 water pipe. A 600' roll is like $70, no damn joints to deal with. Easy to
pull through.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Darin Steffl mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com
To: af@afmug.com , memb...@wispa.org , Principal WISPA Member List
mailto:w...@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:27:28 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Cheapest way to run ethernet in conduit
Hey guys,
What is the most cost effective conduit you've used for cable runs from a pole
mount to their house. There is one run that keeps getting eaten through by
animals and it needs to go in conduit. It's about 350 feet and looking for the
cheapest conduit possible that will hold the Cat5.
What are you all using and what is rough cost per foot?
What is the best way to get the cable through the conduit smoothly at long
distances?
Thank you
--
Darin Steffl
Minnesota WiFi
www.mnwifi.com
507-634-WiFi
Like us on Facebook
Re: [AFMUG] Site Database Management
Right now I am currently setting up Redmine for this. I am the primary tower hand and have lots of information about our sites from the past 8 years that I think would be useful to everyone. I honestly do not know if this is the proper tool for the job, but it has specific options I am looking for. For example: Documents (tower agreements, POCs etc.), a Wiki (to add information about equipment on tower and add important information specific to the site) and Files (for photo upload) are all things I am looking for that Redmine supports. There are some things that need to be changed or added such as email notifications and issue tracking. All the changes I have made are rather simple. I can't speak for iOS, but there are some decent third party apps for Android out there that also make it easy to do this from the field when a data connection is not available. I won't say it is the perfect option, but it works for me and the other hands that work these sites regularly. Vince West Tower Hand Technical Support Shelby Broadband 148 Citizens Blvd Simpsonville, KY 40067 Phone: 1-888-364-4232 On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: Wispmon does this as I'm sure most of the management platforms do. On Jun 17, 2015 5:43 PM, Cassidy B. Larson c...@infowest.com wrote: Anybody use anything spectacular for managing a list of all your sites? Apart from a Wiki/Excel sheet/plain text file. I’d like for a tower monkey to be able to take pictures of deployments/changes and associate it with the site. Same goes with accessing and updating details about things like: access to a site, contact numbers, GPS coordinates, list of equipment, IP addresses, WiFi passwords, Power Meter Number, custom notes, etc. Of course the above could be a big text box that gets changed, but then people will forget things to add. I’d prefer nice fields that you can populate.. When there’s data in them you can click the phone number to call, click the GPS coordinates to pull up maps, etc. Plus I want it to look pretty and be usable by someone rolling up with a phone and who happened to forget the gate code. Any suggestions? -c
[AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2
whats a comparable 8 or so port unit to this? Small footprint for tiny sites and tiny enclosures -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest way to run ethernet in conduit
I've used 1/2 PVC conduit, and over 100' or so, it's a PITA. I usually
recommend 3/4 conduit (and it's not that much more than 1/2). Note
that Home Depot provides an additional discount once you go over a
certain length.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 6/18/2015 9:32 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
1/2 PVC
$1.59 / 10'
http://www.homedepot.com/p/JM-eagle-1-2-in-x-10-ft-PVC-Schedule-40-Conduit-67447/100122861
PVC cement
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Oatey-8-oz-PVC-Cement-310133/100345577
bucket of pull string
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-6-500-ft-Pulling-Line-56110/100660172
Feed string through pipe while you put the sections together. Secure
sections via solvent weld with PVC cement.
On 6/18/2015 12:27 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:
Hey guys,
What is the most cost effective conduit you've used for cable runs
from a pole mount to their house. There is one run that keeps getting
eaten through by animals and it needs to go in conduit. It's about
350 feet and looking for the cheapest conduit possible that will hold
the Cat5.
What are you all using and what is rough cost per foot?
What is the best way to get the cable through the conduit smoothly at
long distances?
Thank you
--
Darin Steffl
Minnesota WiFi
www.mnwifi.com http://www.mnwifi.com/
507-634-WiFi
http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi Like us on Facebook
http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi
Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Powercode
So after I sent out this email I got a call probably 20 minutes later, we placed an order and I should have a shipping number today. The person that I spoke to also took down the information regarding the emergency line and is going to determine if there's a breakdown in the IVR somewhere because he said I should have got someone on the line when I went to the emergency section. While I'm happy that someone got back to me it's still frustrating that it took a mass email to get a call back in a reasonable time frame. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Ryan Ray ryan...@gmail.com wrote: Guess being a customer for over 8 years means nothing (started using Powercode in 2007) So disappointed. [image: Inline image 1] On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Ryan Ray ryan...@gmail.com wrote: I'm having some serious flashbacks to 2007 Powercode at the moment. Had a BMU die yesterday after we powered it off to move to a different rack. On boot it only gave two beeps and that's it. Phoned the Emergency line which went to some guy's voicemail, left 3 messages over a 5 hour period (7pm - 12am PST). No response. Phoned into support in the morning it took 30 minutes for the helpdesk guy to track down the asset with multiple times on hold. After the final hold period I am told Our support says it's dead, you will have to buy a new one, I'll have sales phone you Asked if they would please phone me today and get the order placed right away so it can ship as soon as possible. He said he can't make any promises but he's going to talk to the sales person personally. Now 5pm on central time so I assume they've all closed up shop for the day. SO FRUSTRATING! WHY?! Is it really that bad they can't take a sales call so I can hand them money to get this tower running smoothly again? Something needs to change over there. On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I heard he's great. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Friday, May 15, 2015 8:52:53 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Powercode Who the hell is Alexander? On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 12:04 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: well, while we're discussing powercode, the biggest / only issue we have right now is google calendar intregration with our installers. last i read on the forum, it was an outdated api issue. is anyone working with powercode on this currently? thanks :) - Original Message - *From:* Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net *To:* memb...@wispa.org *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2015 11:51 AM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA Members] Powercode Uh.WTH. On May 15, 2015 11:43 AM, Adrian Folsom afol...@ptera.com wrote: So now Jacob is gone too, and personally I am now becoming worried. For those who did not receive the emails, here they are: On May 4, 2015, at 1:12 PM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com wrote: Adrian, I wanted to let you know that today is my last day at Powercode. In my absence, please use Jacob as a point of contact - you can reach him at ja...@powercode.com. I greatly appreciate the opportunity I've had to work with you in my time at Powercode, and I wish you all the best in the future. I am confident that I leave you in good hands with the team at Powercode, and that they will continue to provide you with the same exceptional service and quality product as I hope you agree you've received over the past few years. I wish you all the best and I hope our paths cross again in the future! On May 15, 2015, at 6:05 AM, Jacob Kailing ja...@powercode.com wrote: Hello, I am contacting you to inform you that today will be my last day at Powercode. It has been a pleasure getting to know you during our time working together and I wish you continued success in the future. Zach Curry will be your new point of contact in my absence. Please contact supp...@powercode.com or z...@powercode.com for support or sales inquiries. It was a pleasure getting to know you and building a great relationship. I wish you the best! Adrian Folsom, MBA Director of Sales Marketing *Ptera Inc.* d. 509.464.6941 c. 509.294.0027 ptera.com facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Kameron Blomquist kame...@sightlinewireless.com wrote: or here... first i am hearing about it... Interesting. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 11:16 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: No email here Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Casey|WISPA airl...@airlinkrb.com To: memb...@wispa.org memb...@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA Members] Powercode Date: Thu, May 14, 2015 9:12 AM I never saw an email. Sent from my iPhone On May 14, 2015, at 8:52 AM, Gino Villarini
Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2
How small of a site though? 493G is ok for 100mbps+ Nothing I'd recommend, currently. the RB3011 should be here in the next couple weeks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:40:39 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 whats a comparable 8 or so port unit to this? Small footprint for tiny sites and tiny enclosures -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2
There’s the CCR1009-8G-1S-1S+PC if money and power consumption are no object. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 1:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 How small of a site though? 493G is ok for 100mbps+ Nothing I'd recommend, currently. the RB3011 should be here in the next couple weeks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: That One Guy /sarcasm mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:40:39 PM Subject: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 whats a comparable 8 or so port unit to this? Small footprint for tiny sites and tiny enclosures -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest way to run ethernet in conduit
Armored cat 5? Bbdge?
On Jun 18, 2015 11:15 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
It helps if you heat and bend the conduit instead of using the 90*
elbows.
*From:* Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2015 1:05 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest way to run ethernet in conduit
I've used 1/2 PVC conduit, and over 100' or so, it's a PITA. I usually
recommend 3/4 conduit (and it's not that much more than 1/2). Note that
Home Depot provides an additional discount once you go over a certain
length.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 6/18/2015 9:32 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
1/2 PVC
$1.59 / 10'
http://www.homedepot.com/p/JM-eagle-1-2-in-x-10-ft-PVC-Schedule-40-Conduit-67447/100122861
PVC cement
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Oatey-8-oz-PVC-Cement-310133/100345577
bucket of pull string
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-6-500-ft-Pulling-Line-56110/100660172
Feed string through pipe while you put the sections together. Secure
sections via solvent weld with PVC cement.
On 6/18/2015 12:27 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:
Hey guys,
What is the most cost effective conduit you've used for cable runs from a
pole mount to their house. There is one run that keeps getting eaten
through by animals and it needs to go in conduit. It's about 350 feet and
looking for the cheapest conduit possible that will hold the Cat5.
What are you all using and what is rough cost per foot?
What is the best way to get the cable through the conduit smoothly at long
distances?
Thank you
--
Darin Steffl
Minnesota WiFi
www.mnwifi.com
507-634-WiFi
http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi Like us on Facebook
http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi
Re: [AFMUG] Site Database Management
Dropbox? A folder for each location and documents inside the folder? ryan On 6/18/15 1:24 PM, Vince West wrote: Right now I am currently setting up Redmine for this. I am the primary tower hand and have lots of information about our sites from the past 8 years that I think would be useful to everyone. I honestly do not know if this is the proper tool for the job, but it has specific options I am looking for. For example: Documents (tower agreements, POCs etc.), a Wiki (to add information about equipment on tower and add important information specific to the site) and Files (for photo upload) are all things I am looking for that Redmine supports. There are some things that need to be changed or added such as email notifications and issue tracking. All the changes I have made are rather simple. I can't speak for iOS, but there are some decent third party apps for Android out there that also make it easy to do this from the field when a data connection is not available. I won't say it is the perfect option, but it works for me and the other hands that work these sites regularly. Vince West Tower Hand Technical Support Shelby Broadband 148 Citizens Blvd Simpsonville, KY 40067 Phone: 1-888-364-4232 On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com mailto:cc...@wispmon.com wrote: Wispmon does this as I'm sure most of the management platforms do. On Jun 17, 2015 5:43 PM, Cassidy B. Larson c...@infowest.com mailto:c...@infowest.com wrote: Anybody use anything spectacular for managing a list of all your sites? Apart from a Wiki/Excel sheet/plain text file. I’d like for a tower monkey to be able to take pictures of deployments/changes and associate it with the site. Same goes with accessing and updating details about things like: access to a site, contact numbers, GPS coordinates, list of equipment, IP addresses, WiFi passwords, Power Meter Number, custom notes, etc. Of course the above could be a big text box that gets changed, but then people will forget things to add. I’d prefer nice fields that you can populate.. When there’s data in them you can click the phone number to call, click the GPS coordinates to pull up maps, etc. Plus I want it to look pretty and be usable by someone rolling up with a phone and who happened to forget the gate code. Any suggestions? -c -- D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc broadband | telco | colo | communities PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294 425-939-0047
Re: [AFMUG] Site Database Management
powercode does exactly that and more, but ever since they killed simon they havent been the same, alot of complaints about slow to no response. But once you kill a man, it changes you, puts you in a dark place, maybe thats where theyre at, in a dark place On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Vince West vi...@shelbybb.com wrote: That would work for managing just documents. It is pretty much what I do right now. I wanted/needed a place where I could put all the information at once, plus issue tracking for the site (power outages, power surges, lightning strikes etc). Plus I also wanted to add information to the wiki part that would be useful to other technicians who may go to the site in the future. We have enough sites now that if I had to hand off tasks to another person, while I know them in my head, I would like one cohesive resource to point them to. Vince West Tower Hand Technical Support Shelby Broadband 148 Citizens Blvd Simpsonville, KY 40067 Phone: 1-888-364-4232 On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 4:38 PM, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@ngc457.com wrote: Dropbox? A folder for each location and documents inside the folder? ryan On 6/18/15 1:24 PM, Vince West wrote: Right now I am currently setting up Redmine for this. I am the primary tower hand and have lots of information about our sites from the past 8 years that I think would be useful to everyone. I honestly do not know if this is the proper tool for the job, but it has specific options I am looking for. For example: Documents (tower agreements, POCs etc.), a Wiki (to add information about equipment on tower and add important information specific to the site) and Files (for photo upload) are all things I am looking for that Redmine supports. There are some things that need to be changed or added such as email notifications and issue tracking. All the changes I have made are rather simple. I can't speak for iOS, but there are some decent third party apps for Android out there that also make it easy to do this from the field when a data connection is not available. I won't say it is the perfect option, but it works for me and the other hands that work these sites regularly. Vince West Tower Hand Technical Support Shelby Broadband 148 Citizens Blvd Simpsonville, KY 40067 Phone: 1-888-364-4232 On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: Wispmon does this as I'm sure most of the management platforms do. On Jun 17, 2015 5:43 PM, Cassidy B. Larson c...@infowest.com wrote: Anybody use anything spectacular for managing a list of all your sites? Apart from a Wiki/Excel sheet/plain text file. I’d like for a tower monkey to be able to take pictures of deployments/changes and associate it with the site. Same goes with accessing and updating details about things like: access to a site, contact numbers, GPS coordinates, list of equipment, IP addresses, WiFi passwords, Power Meter Number, custom notes, etc. Of course the above could be a big text box that gets changed, but then people will forget things to add. I’d prefer nice fields that you can populate.. When there’s data in them you can click the phone number to call, click the GPS coordinates to pull up maps, etc. Plus I want it to look pretty and be usable by someone rolling up with a phone and who happened to forget the gate code. Any suggestions? -c -- D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc broadband | telco | colo | communities PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294425-939-0047 -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Site Database Management
Powercode... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Vince West vi...@shelbybb.com wrote: That would work for managing just documents. It is pretty much what I do right now. I wanted/needed a place where I could put all the information at once, plus issue tracking for the site (power outages, power surges, lightning strikes etc). Plus I also wanted to add information to the wiki part that would be useful to other technicians who may go to the site in the future. We have enough sites now that if I had to hand off tasks to another person, while I know them in my head, I would like one cohesive resource to point them to. Vince West Tower Hand Technical Support Shelby Broadband 148 Citizens Blvd Simpsonville, KY 40067 Phone: 1-888-364-4232 On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 4:38 PM, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@ngc457.com wrote: Dropbox? A folder for each location and documents inside the folder? ryan On 6/18/15 1:24 PM, Vince West wrote: Right now I am currently setting up Redmine for this. I am the primary tower hand and have lots of information about our sites from the past 8 years that I think would be useful to everyone. I honestly do not know if this is the proper tool for the job, but it has specific options I am looking for. For example: Documents (tower agreements, POCs etc.), a Wiki (to add information about equipment on tower and add important information specific to the site) and Files (for photo upload) are all things I am looking for that Redmine supports. There are some things that need to be changed or added such as email notifications and issue tracking. All the changes I have made are rather simple. I can't speak for iOS, but there are some decent third party apps for Android out there that also make it easy to do this from the field when a data connection is not available. I won't say it is the perfect option, but it works for me and the other hands that work these sites regularly. Vince West Tower Hand Technical Support Shelby Broadband 148 Citizens Blvd Simpsonville, KY 40067 Phone: 1-888-364-4232 On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: Wispmon does this as I'm sure most of the management platforms do. On Jun 17, 2015 5:43 PM, Cassidy B. Larson c...@infowest.com wrote: Anybody use anything spectacular for managing a list of all your sites? Apart from a Wiki/Excel sheet/plain text file. I’d like for a tower monkey to be able to take pictures of deployments/changes and associate it with the site. Same goes with accessing and updating details about things like: access to a site, contact numbers, GPS coordinates, list of equipment, IP addresses, WiFi passwords, Power Meter Number, custom notes, etc. Of course the above could be a big text box that gets changed, but then people will forget things to add. I’d prefer nice fields that you can populate.. When there’s data in them you can click the phone number to call, click the GPS coordinates to pull up maps, etc. Plus I want it to look pretty and be usable by someone rolling up with a phone and who happened to forget the gate code. Any suggestions? -c -- D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc broadband | telco | colo | communities PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294425-939-0047
Re: [AFMUG] Site Database Management
I've heard this complaint a few times. I have had nothing but great support the last 3-4 times I've had to call them in the last few weeks. Just seconds ago I had to get a SQL query together to help me with this Google Apps for ISPs business. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 4:55 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: powercode does exactly that and more, but ever since they killed simon they havent been the same, alot of complaints about slow to no response. But once you kill a man, it changes you, puts you in a dark place, maybe thats where theyre at, in a dark place On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Vince West vi...@shelbybb.com wrote: That would work for managing just documents. It is pretty much what I do right now. I wanted/needed a place where I could put all the information at once, plus issue tracking for the site (power outages, power surges, lightning strikes etc). Plus I also wanted to add information to the wiki part that would be useful to other technicians who may go to the site in the future. We have enough sites now that if I had to hand off tasks to another person, while I know them in my head, I would like one cohesive resource to point them to. Vince West Tower Hand Technical Support Shelby Broadband 148 Citizens Blvd Simpsonville, KY 40067 Phone: 1-888-364-4232 On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 4:38 PM, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@ngc457.com wrote: Dropbox? A folder for each location and documents inside the folder? ryan On 6/18/15 1:24 PM, Vince West wrote: Right now I am currently setting up Redmine for this. I am the primary tower hand and have lots of information about our sites from the past 8 years that I think would be useful to everyone. I honestly do not know if this is the proper tool for the job, but it has specific options I am looking for. For example: Documents (tower agreements, POCs etc.), a Wiki (to add information about equipment on tower and add important information specific to the site) and Files (for photo upload) are all things I am looking for that Redmine supports. There are some things that need to be changed or added such as email notifications and issue tracking. All the changes I have made are rather simple. I can't speak for iOS, but there are some decent third party apps for Android out there that also make it easy to do this from the field when a data connection is not available. I won't say it is the perfect option, but it works for me and the other hands that work these sites regularly. Vince West Tower Hand Technical Support Shelby Broadband 148 Citizens Blvd Simpsonville, KY 40067 Phone: 1-888-364-4232 On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: Wispmon does this as I'm sure most of the management platforms do. On Jun 17, 2015 5:43 PM, Cassidy B. Larson c...@infowest.com wrote: Anybody use anything spectacular for managing a list of all your sites? Apart from a Wiki/Excel sheet/plain text file. I’d like for a tower monkey to be able to take pictures of deployments/changes and associate it with the site. Same goes with accessing and updating details about things like: access to a site, contact numbers, GPS coordinates, list of equipment, IP addresses, WiFi passwords, Power Meter Number, custom notes, etc. Of course the above could be a big text box that gets changed, but then people will forget things to add. I’d prefer nice fields that you can populate.. When there’s data in them you can click the phone number to call, click the GPS coordinates to pull up maps, etc. Plus I want it to look pretty and be usable by someone rolling up with a phone and who happened to forget the gate code. Any suggestions? -c -- D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc broadband | telco | colo | communities PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294425-939-0047 -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Site Database Management
WISPMon does quite a bit of this. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Cassidy B. Larson c...@infowest.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 5:43:36 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Site Database Management Anybody use anything spectacular for managing a list of all your sites? Apart from a Wiki/Excel sheet/plain text file. I’d like for a tower monkey to be able to take pictures of deployments/changes and associate it with the site. Same goes with accessing and updating details about things like: access to a site, contact numbers, GPS coordinates, list of equipment, IP addresses, WiFi passwords, Power Meter Number, custom notes, etc. Of course the above could be a big text box that gets changed, but then people will forget things to add. I’d prefer nice fields that you can populate.. When there’s data in them you can click the phone number to call, click the GPS coordinates to pull up maps, etc. Plus I want it to look pretty and be usable by someone rolling up with a phone and who happened to forget the gate code. Any suggestions? -c
Re: [AFMUG] Site Database Management
Google sheet for tower contacts. Syncs on our phones so it works where we don't have service. Agreements I just have a folder with the PDFs and name them. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 18, 2015 4:38 PM, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@ngc457.com wrote: Dropbox? A folder for each location and documents inside the folder? ryan On 6/18/15 1:24 PM, Vince West wrote: Right now I am currently setting up Redmine for this. I am the primary tower hand and have lots of information about our sites from the past 8 years that I think would be useful to everyone. I honestly do not know if this is the proper tool for the job, but it has specific options I am looking for. For example: Documents (tower agreements, POCs etc.), a Wiki (to add information about equipment on tower and add important information specific to the site) and Files (for photo upload) are all things I am looking for that Redmine supports. There are some things that need to be changed or added such as email notifications and issue tracking. All the changes I have made are rather simple. I can't speak for iOS, but there are some decent third party apps for Android out there that also make it easy to do this from the field when a data connection is not available. I won't say it is the perfect option, but it works for me and the other hands that work these sites regularly. Vince West Tower Hand Technical Support Shelby Broadband 148 Citizens Blvd Simpsonville, KY 40067 Phone: 1-888-364-4232 On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: Wispmon does this as I'm sure most of the management platforms do. On Jun 17, 2015 5:43 PM, Cassidy B. Larson c...@infowest.com wrote: Anybody use anything spectacular for managing a list of all your sites? Apart from a Wiki/Excel sheet/plain text file. I’d like for a tower monkey to be able to take pictures of deployments/changes and associate it with the site. Same goes with accessing and updating details about things like: access to a site, contact numbers, GPS coordinates, list of equipment, IP addresses, WiFi passwords, Power Meter Number, custom notes, etc. Of course the above could be a big text box that gets changed, but then people will forget things to add. I’d prefer nice fields that you can populate.. When there’s data in them you can click the phone number to call, click the GPS coordinates to pull up maps, etc. Plus I want it to look pretty and be usable by someone rolling up with a phone and who happened to forget the gate code. Any suggestions? -c -- D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc broadband | telco | colo | communities PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294425-939-0047
Re: [AFMUG] Site Database Management
That would work for managing just documents. It is pretty much what I do right now. I wanted/needed a place where I could put all the information at once, plus issue tracking for the site (power outages, power surges, lightning strikes etc). Plus I also wanted to add information to the wiki part that would be useful to other technicians who may go to the site in the future. We have enough sites now that if I had to hand off tasks to another person, while I know them in my head, I would like one cohesive resource to point them to. Vince West Tower Hand Technical Support Shelby Broadband 148 Citizens Blvd Simpsonville, KY 40067 Phone: 1-888-364-4232 On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 4:38 PM, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@ngc457.com wrote: Dropbox? A folder for each location and documents inside the folder? ryan On 6/18/15 1:24 PM, Vince West wrote: Right now I am currently setting up Redmine for this. I am the primary tower hand and have lots of information about our sites from the past 8 years that I think would be useful to everyone. I honestly do not know if this is the proper tool for the job, but it has specific options I am looking for. For example: Documents (tower agreements, POCs etc.), a Wiki (to add information about equipment on tower and add important information specific to the site) and Files (for photo upload) are all things I am looking for that Redmine supports. There are some things that need to be changed or added such as email notifications and issue tracking. All the changes I have made are rather simple. I can't speak for iOS, but there are some decent third party apps for Android out there that also make it easy to do this from the field when a data connection is not available. I won't say it is the perfect option, but it works for me and the other hands that work these sites regularly. Vince West Tower Hand Technical Support Shelby Broadband 148 Citizens Blvd Simpsonville, KY 40067 Phone: 1-888-364-4232 On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: Wispmon does this as I'm sure most of the management platforms do. On Jun 17, 2015 5:43 PM, Cassidy B. Larson c...@infowest.com wrote: Anybody use anything spectacular for managing a list of all your sites? Apart from a Wiki/Excel sheet/plain text file. I’d like for a tower monkey to be able to take pictures of deployments/changes and associate it with the site. Same goes with accessing and updating details about things like: access to a site, contact numbers, GPS coordinates, list of equipment, IP addresses, WiFi passwords, Power Meter Number, custom notes, etc. Of course the above could be a big text box that gets changed, but then people will forget things to add. I’d prefer nice fields that you can populate.. When there’s data in them you can click the phone number to call, click the GPS coordinates to pull up maps, etc. Plus I want it to look pretty and be usable by someone rolling up with a phone and who happened to forget the gate code. Any suggestions? -c -- D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc broadband | telco | colo | communities PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294425-939-0047
Re: [AFMUG] Site Database Management
+1 We added a tag field to issues in Jira for the POP name and tag all POPs affected by the issue. We have a page in Confluence for each POP with site info, image gallery, access info, etc with a dynamic search for the POP tag so any issues affecting/involving the POP show up. We outgrew the 10 users for $10 license and are now paying ye olde enterprise rates and it's still so very worth it. On Jun 18, 2015 5:10 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: You should look at Confluence (wiki) + Jira (issue tracking). Both can be integrated with each other. Josh On Jun 18, 2015, at 4:51 PM, Vince West vi...@shelbybb.com wrote: That would work for managing just documents. It is pretty much what I do right now. I wanted/needed a place where I could put all the information at once, plus issue tracking for the site (power outages, power surges, lightning strikes etc). Plus I also wanted to add information to the wiki part that would be useful to other technicians who may go to the site in the future. We have enough sites now that if I had to hand off tasks to another person, while I know them in my head, I would like one cohesive resource to point them to. Vince West Tower Hand Technical Support Shelby Broadband 148 Citizens Blvd Simpsonville, KY 40067 Phone: 1-888-364-4232 On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 4:38 PM, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@ngc457.com wrote: Dropbox? A folder for each location and documents inside the folder? ryan On 6/18/15 1:24 PM, Vince West wrote: Right now I am currently setting up Redmine for this. I am the primary tower hand and have lots of information about our sites from the past 8 years that I think would be useful to everyone. I honestly do not know if this is the proper tool for the job, but it has specific options I am looking for. For example: Documents (tower agreements, POCs etc.), a Wiki (to add information about equipment on tower and add important information specific to the site) and Files (for photo upload) are all things I am looking for that Redmine supports. There are some things that need to be changed or added such as email notifications and issue tracking. All the changes I have made are rather simple. I can't speak for iOS, but there are some decent third party apps for Android out there that also make it easy to do this from the field when a data connection is not available. I won't say it is the perfect option, but it works for me and the other hands that work these sites regularly. Vince West Tower Hand Technical Support Shelby Broadband 148 Citizens Blvd Simpsonville, KY 40067 Phone: 1-888-364-4232 On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: Wispmon does this as I'm sure most of the management platforms do. On Jun 17, 2015 5:43 PM, Cassidy B. Larson c...@infowest.com wrote: Anybody use anything spectacular for managing a list of all your sites? Apart from a Wiki/Excel sheet/plain text file. I’d like for a tower monkey to be able to take pictures of deployments/changes and associate it with the site. Same goes with accessing and updating details about things like: access to a site, contact numbers, GPS coordinates, list of equipment, IP addresses, WiFi passwords, Power Meter Number, custom notes, etc. Of course the above could be a big text box that gets changed, but then people will forget things to add. I’d prefer nice fields that you can populate.. When there’s data in them you can click the phone number to call, click the GPS coordinates to pull up maps, etc. Plus I want it to look pretty and be usable by someone rolling up with a phone and who happened to forget the gate code. Any suggestions? -c -- D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc broadband | telco | colo | communities PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294425-939-0047
Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest way to run ethernet in conduit
I assumed he meant something like this, but it’s more than $70:
http://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/rough-plumbing/pipe-tubing-hoses-fittings-accessories/pipe/polypipe/1-x-600-100-psi-irrigation-pipe-yellow-label/p-1454983-c-19493.htm
This is $70 but only 300 feet:
http://www.farmandfleet.com/products/066744-advanced-drainage-systems-300-psi-poly-pipe-100-psi.html
Maybe you get a discount with a farm account.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:29 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest way to run ethernet in conduit
You got a link for that? Everything I'm looking at is way more than $70.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 6/18/2015 10:19 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
1 water pipe. A 600' roll is like $70, no damn joints to deal with. Easy to
pull through.
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Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:27:28 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Cheapest way to run ethernet in conduit
Hey guys,
What is the most cost effective conduit you've used for cable runs from a
pole mount to their house. There is one run that keeps getting eaten through by
animals and it needs to go in conduit. It's about 350 feet and looking for the
cheapest conduit possible that will hold the Cat5.
What are you all using and what is rough cost per foot?
What is the best way to get the cable through the conduit smoothly at long
distances?
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Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2
That says RB2011 is OK. Or a CRS125. As long as that’s enough CPU for you. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Maximum_Transmission_Unit_on_RouterBoards - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:24:57 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 2011? Similar CPU. On 6/18/2015 2:51 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I wouldn't deploy RB493s, they limit your MTU. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 1:48:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 How small of a site though? 493G is ok for 100mbps+ Nothing I'd recommend, currently. the RB3011 should be here in the next couple weeks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: That One Guy /sarcasm mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:40:39 PM Subject: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 whats a comparable 8 or so port unit to this? Small footprint for tiny sites and tiny enclosures -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2
Does it fit? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com To: af af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 4:49:52 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 The 2011 is nice, but the CPU is a bit underpowered for larger sites... the RB850Gx2 has a decent CPU, but it's only got 5 ports. The RB3011 should be perfect, if it ever ships. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: That says RB2011 is OK. Or a CRS125. As long as that’s enough CPU for you. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Maximum_Transmission_Unit_on_RouterBoards - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:24:57 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 2011? Similar CPU. On 6/18/2015 2:51 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: blockquote I wouldn't deploy RB493s, they limit your MTU. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 1:48:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 How small of a site though? 493G is ok for 100mbps+ blockquote Nothing I'd recommend, currently. the RB3011 should be here in the next couple weeks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: That One Guy /sarcasm mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:40:39 PM Subject: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 whats a comparable 8 or so port unit to this? Small footprint for tiny sites and tiny enclosures -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. /blockquote /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2
Fit what? the 3011 is supposed to be the same size as the 2011, isn't it? That should easily fit in just about any enclosure. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Does it fit? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com *To: *af af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, June 18, 2015 4:49:52 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 The 2011 is nice, but the CPU is a bit underpowered for larger sites... the RB850Gx2 has a decent CPU, but it's only got 5 ports. The RB3011 should be perfect, if it ever ships. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: That says RB2011 is OK. Or a CRS125. As long as that’s enough CPU for you. *From:* Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:36 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Maximum_Transmission_Unit_on_RouterBoards - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:24:57 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 2011? Similar CPU. On 6/18/2015 2:51 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I wouldn't deploy RB493s, they limit your MTU. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com dmmoff...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, June 18, 2015 1:48:34 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 How small of a site though? 493G is ok for 100mbps+ Nothing I'd recommend, currently. the RB3011 should be here in the next couple weeks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *That One Guy /sarcasm mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:40:39 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 whats a comparable 8 or so port unit to this? Small footprint for tiny sites and tiny enclosures -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Site Database Management
You should look at Confluence (wiki) + Jira (issue tracking). Both can be integrated with each other. Josh On Jun 18, 2015, at 4:51 PM, Vince West vi...@shelbybb.com wrote: That would work for managing just documents. It is pretty much what I do right now. I wanted/needed a place where I could put all the information at once, plus issue tracking for the site (power outages, power surges, lightning strikes etc). Plus I also wanted to add information to the wiki part that would be useful to other technicians who may go to the site in the future. We have enough sites now that if I had to hand off tasks to another person, while I know them in my head, I would like one cohesive resource to point them to. Vince West Tower Hand Technical Support Shelby Broadband 148 Citizens Blvd Simpsonville, KY 40067 Phone: 1-888-364-4232 On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 4:38 PM, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@ngc457.com wrote: Dropbox? A folder for each location and documents inside the folder? ryan On 6/18/15 1:24 PM, Vince West wrote: Right now I am currently setting up Redmine for this. I am the primary tower hand and have lots of information about our sites from the past 8 years that I think would be useful to everyone. I honestly do not know if this is the proper tool for the job, but it has specific options I am looking for. For example: Documents (tower agreements, POCs etc.), a Wiki (to add information about equipment on tower and add important information specific to the site) and Files (for photo upload) are all things I am looking for that Redmine supports. There are some things that need to be changed or added such as email notifications and issue tracking. All the changes I have made are rather simple. I can't speak for iOS, but there are some decent third party apps for Android out there that also make it easy to do this from the field when a data connection is not available. I won't say it is the perfect option, but it works for me and the other hands that work these sites regularly. Vince West Tower Hand Technical Support Shelby Broadband 148 Citizens Blvd Simpsonville, KY 40067 Phone: 1-888-364-4232 On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: Wispmon does this as I'm sure most of the management platforms do. On Jun 17, 2015 5:43 PM, Cassidy B. Larson c...@infowest.com wrote: Anybody use anything spectacular for managing a list of all your sites? Apart from a Wiki/Excel sheet/plain text file. I’d like for a tower monkey to be able to take pictures of deployments/changes and associate it with the site. Same goes with accessing and updating details about things like: access to a site, contact numbers, GPS coordinates, list of equipment, IP addresses, WiFi passwords, Power Meter Number, custom notes, etc. Of course the above could be a big text box that gets changed, but then people will forget things to add. I’d prefer nice fields that you can populate.. When there’s data in them you can click the phone number to call, click the GPS coordinates to pull up maps, etc. Plus I want it to look pretty and be usable by someone rolling up with a phone and who happened to forget the gate code. Any suggestions? -c -- D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc broadband | telco | colo | communities PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294 425-939-0047
Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2
The 2011 is nice, but the CPU is a bit underpowered for larger sites... the RB850Gx2 has a decent CPU, but it's only got 5 ports. The RB3011 should be perfect, if it ever ships. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: That says RB2011 is OK. Or a CRS125. As long as that’s enough CPU for you. *From:* Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:36 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Maximum_Transmission_Unit_on_RouterBoards - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:24:57 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 2011? Similar CPU. On 6/18/2015 2:51 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I wouldn't deploy RB493s, they limit your MTU. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com dmmoff...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, June 18, 2015 1:48:34 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 How small of a site though? 493G is ok for 100mbps+ Nothing I'd recommend, currently. the RB3011 should be here in the next couple weeks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *That One Guy /sarcasm mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:40:39 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 whats a comparable 8 or so port unit to this? Small footprint for tiny sites and tiny enclosures -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2
Bad joke. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com To: af af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 4:57:06 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 Fit what? the 3011 is supposed to be the same size as the 2011, isn't it? That should easily fit in just about any enclosure. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Does it fit? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com To: af af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 4:49:52 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 The 2011 is nice, but the CPU is a bit underpowered for larger sites... the RB850Gx2 has a decent CPU, but it's only got 5 ports. The RB3011 should be perfect, if it ever ships. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: blockquote That says RB2011 is OK. Or a CRS125. As long as that’s enough CPU for you. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Maximum_Transmission_Unit_on_RouterBoards - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:24:57 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 2011? Similar CPU. On 6/18/2015 2:51 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: blockquote I wouldn't deploy RB493s, they limit your MTU. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 1:48:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 How small of a site though? 493G is ok for 100mbps+ blockquote Nothing I'd recommend, currently. the RB3011 should be here in the next couple weeks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: That One Guy /sarcasm mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:40:39 PM Subject: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 whats a comparable 8 or so port unit to this? Small footprint for tiny sites and tiny enclosures -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras
but... anything that makes me not have to deal with people whining about their xbox NAT issues can't be all bad. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: UPNP = evil Here, cheap piece of crap from China, do whatever you want with my firewall, and no need to tell me. *From:* mailto:p...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:17 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras It's definitely a NAT issue. Does your router support UPNP? Did you enable it in Settings-Network Settings-Advanced Settings? On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I could post a pic if I could get into the system. (Not on site most of the time). *From:* mailto:p...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:18 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras Can you post a pic of the camera during the day and of it washed out at night? We've had to tweek the video settings on some of the cameras. If you have an Android phone/tablet, you can download their free app to view your cameras remotely. We have Apple and use the IP Cam Viewer app which is nice. I'll look into the remote DVR issue for you. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: OK, bought a couple of the more expensive grandstream cameras and their DVR device. The cameras are really washed out by our security lights at night. I got the expensive night IR model hoping to capture traffic at night. But the ambient light is too much for the BW IR mode and not enough for regular color daylight mode. The thing that really bugs me is our inability to see the video remotely. If on site it works OK but if I log into the DVR it allows access but the screen is just black. No camera video is visible. Grandstream has not been helpful. So, shall I try another brand of camera? Have not tried any of the UBNT stuff. I have a cheap system from Harbor Freight that while is extremely low res and has noise on some of the channels actually works well enough for many things. (If nothing more than scaring away bad guys by the presence of the cameras.)
Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2
oh, right. haha On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Bad joke. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com *To: *af af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, June 18, 2015 4:57:06 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 Fit what? the 3011 is supposed to be the same size as the 2011, isn't it? That should easily fit in just about any enclosure. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Does it fit? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com *To: *af af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, June 18, 2015 4:49:52 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 The 2011 is nice, but the CPU is a bit underpowered for larger sites... the RB850Gx2 has a decent CPU, but it's only got 5 ports. The RB3011 should be perfect, if it ever ships. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: That says RB2011 is OK. Or a CRS125. As long as that’s enough CPU for you. *From:* Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:36 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Maximum_Transmission_Unit_on_RouterBoards - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:24:57 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 2011? Similar CPU. On 6/18/2015 2:51 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I wouldn't deploy RB493s, they limit your MTU. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com dmmoff...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, June 18, 2015 1:48:34 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 How small of a site though? 493G is ok for 100mbps+ Nothing I'd recommend, currently. the RB3011 should be here in the next couple weeks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *That One Guy /sarcasm mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:40:39 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 whats a comparable 8 or so port unit to this? Small footprint for tiny sites and tiny enclosures -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2
How stable do you expect their first release of RoS for ARM will be? Not sure I’d roll it out to production right away. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 4:49 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 The 2011 is nice, but the CPU is a bit underpowered for larger sites... the RB850Gx2 has a decent CPU, but it's only got 5 ports. The RB3011 should be perfect, if it ever ships. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: That says RB2011 is OK. Or a CRS125. As long as that’s enough CPU for you. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Maximum_Transmission_Unit_on_RouterBoards - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:24:57 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 2011? Similar CPU. On 6/18/2015 2:51 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I wouldn't deploy RB493s, they limit your MTU. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 1:48:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 How small of a site though? 493G is ok for 100mbps+ Nothing I'd recommend, currently. the RB3011 should be here in the next couple weeks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: That One Guy /sarcasm mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:40:39 PM Subject: [AFMUG] baby rb1100ah2 whats a comparable 8 or so port unit to this? Small footprint for tiny sites and tiny enclosures -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras
I wonder about that. We’re starting to get more residential takers on leasing a Mikrotik. We ship them with UPNP disabled and since they are remotely managed can easily enable it upon request. Have not had to turn a single one on yet. Maybe the intersection of people with Xboxes and people who lease routers is the null set? Hard to believe. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 5:00 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras but... anything that makes me not have to deal with people whining about their xbox NAT issues can't be all bad. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: UPNP = evil Here, cheap piece of crap from China, do whatever you want with my firewall, and no need to tell me. From: mailto:p...@believewireless.net Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:17 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras It's definitely a NAT issue. Does your router support UPNP? Did you enable it in Settings-Network Settings-Advanced Settings? On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I could post a pic if I could get into the system. (Not on site most of the time). From: mailto:p...@believewireless.net Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:18 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras Can you post a pic of the camera during the day and of it washed out at night? We've had to tweek the video settings on some of the cameras. If you have an Android phone/tablet, you can download their free app to view your cameras remotely. We have Apple and use the IP Cam Viewer app which is nice. I'll look into the remote DVR issue for you. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: OK, bought a couple of the more expensive grandstream cameras and their DVR device. The cameras are really washed out by our security lights at night. I got the expensive night IR model hoping to capture traffic at night. But the ambient light is too much for the BW IR mode and not enough for regular color daylight mode. The thing that really bugs me is our inability to see the video remotely. If on site it works OK but if I log into the DVR it allows access but the screen is just black. No camera video is visible. Grandstream has not been helpful. So, shall I try another brand of camera? Have not tried any of the UBNT stuff. I have a cheap system from Harbor Freight that while is extremely low res and has noise on some of the channels actually works well enough for many things. (If nothing more than scaring away bad guys by the presence of the cameras.)
Re: [AFMUG] Site Database Management
Take a look at these two, while they are not exactly site management, they have all the fields and the ability to keep the info u need. Net-dot. . Opensource network asset tracking i-doit. , both opensource and paid commercial package Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Vince West vi...@shelbybb.com wrote: Right now I am currently setting up Redmine for this. I am the primary tower hand and have lots of information about our sites from the past 8 years that I think would be useful to everyone. I honestly do not know if this is the proper tool for the job, but it has specific options I am looking for. For example: Documents (tower agreements, POCs etc.), a Wiki (to add information about equipment on tower and add important information specific to the site) and Files (for photo upload) are all things I am looking for that Redmine supports. There are some things that need to be changed or added such as email notifications and issue tracking. All the changes I have made are rather simple. I can't speak for iOS, but there are some decent third party apps for Android out there that also make it easy to do this from the field when a data connection is not available. I won't say it is the perfect option, but it works for me and the other hands that work these sites regularly.Vince WestTower Hand Technical SupportShelby Broadband148 Citizens BlvdSimpsonville, KY 40067Phone: 1-888-364-4232 On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: Wispmon does this as I'm sure most of the management platforms do. On Jun 17, 2015 5:43 PM, Cassidy B. Larson c...@infowest.com wrote: Anybody use anything spectacular for managing a list of all your sites? Apart from a Wiki/Excel sheet/plain text file. I’d like for a tower monkey to be able to take pictures of deployments/changes and associate it with the site. Same goes with accessing and updating details about things like: access to a site, contact numbers, GPS coordinates, list of equipment, IP addresses, WiFi passwords, Power Meter Number, custom notes, etc. Of course the above could be a big text box that gets changed, but then people will forget things to add. I’d prefer nice fields that you can populate.. When there’s data in them you can click the phone number to call, click the GPS coordinates to pull up maps, etc. Plus I want it to look pretty and be usable by someone rolling up with a phone and who happened to forget the gate code. Any suggestions? -c
Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras
Yep, it was enabled. From: mailto:p...@believewireless.net Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 10:17 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras It's definitely a NAT issue. Does your router support UPNP? Did you enable it in Settings-Network Settings-Advanced Settings? On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I could post a pic if I could get into the system. (Not on site most of the time). From: mailto:p...@believewireless.net Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:18 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras Can you post a pic of the camera during the day and of it washed out at night? We've had to tweek the video settings on some of the cameras. If you have an Android phone/tablet, you can download their free app to view your cameras remotely. We have Apple and use the IP Cam Viewer app which is nice. I'll look into the remote DVR issue for you. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: OK, bought a couple of the more expensive grandstream cameras and their DVR device. The cameras are really washed out by our security lights at night. I got the expensive night IR model hoping to capture traffic at night. But the ambient light is too much for the BW IR mode and not enough for regular color daylight mode. The thing that really bugs me is our inability to see the video remotely. If on site it works OK but if I log into the DVR it allows access but the screen is just black. No camera video is visible. Grandstream has not been helpful. So, shall I try another brand of camera? Have not tried any of the UBNT stuff. I have a cheap system from Harbor Freight that while is extremely low res and has noise on some of the channels actually works well enough for many things. (If nothing more than scaring away bad guys by the presence of the cameras.)
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Powerbox
Yea, saw that afterwards too. So, guess they sold what they had.We were needing another one too, but guess we'll have to wait. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: Baltic shows preorder only. On Thursday, June 18, 2015, Steve Utick sut...@gmail.com wrote: Just asked our guy, and we got ours from baltic. They are r2 version. On Jun 17, 2015 5:53 PM, Steve Utick sut...@gmail.com wrote: We just got some in for a project the other day, but unsure of what version and where they came from. I can check with the guy in the office that ordered them tomorrow and see where he got them. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: Anyone know if these are available, and if so who has stock? Thanks. Jason
Re: [AFMUG] Will the Ruckus 7762-S do both bands simultaneously on the external ports?
One thing I should have mentioned, you will need external antennas for the 5GHz band. You connect them to the two N connectors. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:09 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: We are installing Ruckus AC APs Bridge wave ptp and Ubiquiti 365 on base for barracks. Will check tomorrow Jaime Solorza On Jun 17, 2015 7:59 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: nice *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of * can...@believewireless.net *Sent:* Wednesday, June 17, 2015 6:44 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Will the Ruckus 7762-S do both bands simultaneously on the external ports? Yes On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO* *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040* *602-426-0542 602-426-0542* *r...@triadwireless.net r...@triadwireless.net* *www.triadwireless.net http://www.triadwireless.net/* *“Nothing can bring you peace but yourself. Nothing can bring you peace but the triumph of principles.” – Ralph Waldo Emerson*
