date:20161101

Re: [AFMUG] Facebook will contribute architecture and code for their 1U 800Gbps DWDM system to TIP

2016-11-01 Thread Josh Reynolds

Nice! How did you manage that? Offlist welcome :)

On Nov 1, 2016 8:29 PM, "Gino Villarini"  wrote:

> Im here bro. (FB Hq)
>
> On Tuesday, November 1, 2016, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>
>> http://venturebeat.com/2016/11/01/facebook-develops-voyager-
>> optical-transponder-will-contribute-design-to-telecom-infra-project/
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] BW to work from home

2016-11-01 Thread Josh Reynolds

Citrix. Lots of Citrix.

On Nov 1, 2016 11:25 PM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:

> I think a lot of it is just lazy IT guys not wanting to deal with people
> causing problems by watching Netflix on six TVs while they're trying to
> work, so they just tell them they need five times the speed they actually
> do.
>
> We've had customers that were told they needed something like 3Mbps
> upload, but were able to do their jobs perfectly fine on a plan with 1Mbps
> upload.
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 11:03 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Nope... Getting more common... My daughter needs good upstream to upload
>> medical scans she does for several clinics and private doctors from house
>> or retirement places.   She had to upgrade plan from TWC to accommodate
>> her.
>>
>> On Nov 1, 2016 9:52 PM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:
>>
>>> Twice in the past few weeks I’ve had prospective customers say they
>>> needed a minimum of 20M/5M per company IT dept to work from home, emphasis
>>> on the 5M upstream.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is a lot more than I’ve heard in the past, and seems high to me.
>>> In many cases even in town on cable Internet, they will need at least a
>>> plan with at least 50M download to get that much upload.  My experience in
>>> the past has been that even our 3M/1M plan is actually sufficient for most
>>> people to work from home (assuming they aren’t contending with the rest of
>>> the family trying to watch Netflix and Youtube).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is this some kind of a trend, people needing that much upstream to work
>>> from home?  Or just a coincidence I’ve had 2 requests like that in as many
>>> weeks.
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] BW to work from home

2016-11-01 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm

I always assumed it's about oversubscription ratios and problematic
connections. This way the 256 to 512 they can skirt by on will most likely
always be there. I would beat that dealing with issues on 3/1 dsl that's
more a 768/512 has led them to just blanket demand more. Same thing with
them saying no wireless isps, they've dealt with too many fly by night
outfits who run shitty networks. That's the reason we tell our home workers
just not to tell their it it's wireless and they'll never know. Same
concept of software vendors that won't offer support if they know it's in a
vm

On Nov 1, 2016 11:25 PM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:

I think a lot of it is just lazy IT guys not wanting to deal with people
causing problems by watching Netflix on six TVs while they're trying to
work, so they just tell them they need five times the speed they actually
do.

We've had customers that were told they needed something like 3Mbps upload,
but were able to do their jobs perfectly fine on a plan with 1Mbps upload.

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 11:03 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Nope... Getting more common... My daughter needs good upstream to upload
> medical scans she does for several clinics and private doctors from house
> or retirement places.   She had to upgrade plan from TWC to accommodate
> her.
>
> On Nov 1, 2016 9:52 PM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:
>
>> Twice in the past few weeks I’ve had prospective customers say they
>> needed a minimum of 20M/5M per company IT dept to work from home, emphasis
>> on the 5M upstream.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is a lot more than I’ve heard in the past, and seems high to me.  In
>> many cases even in town on cable Internet, they will need at least a plan
>> with at least 50M download to get that much upload.  My experience in the
>> past has been that even our 3M/1M plan is actually sufficient for most
>> people to work from home (assuming they aren’t contending with the rest of
>> the family trying to watch Netflix and Youtube).
>>
>>
>>
>> Is this some kind of a trend, people needing that much upstream to work
>> from home?  Or just a coincidence I’ve had 2 requests like that in as many
>> weeks.
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] BW to work from home

2016-11-01 Thread Mathew Howard

I think a lot of it is just lazy IT guys not wanting to deal with people
causing problems by watching Netflix on six TVs while they're trying to
work, so they just tell them they need five times the speed they actually
do.

We've had customers that were told they needed something like 3Mbps upload,
but were able to do their jobs perfectly fine on a plan with 1Mbps upload.

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 11:03 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Nope... Getting more common... My daughter needs good upstream to upload
> medical scans she does for several clinics and private doctors from house
> or retirement places.   She had to upgrade plan from TWC to accommodate
> her.
>
> On Nov 1, 2016 9:52 PM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:
>
>> Twice in the past few weeks I’ve had prospective customers say they
>> needed a minimum of 20M/5M per company IT dept to work from home, emphasis
>> on the 5M upstream.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is a lot more than I’ve heard in the past, and seems high to me.  In
>> many cases even in town on cable Internet, they will need at least a plan
>> with at least 50M download to get that much upload.  My experience in the
>> past has been that even our 3M/1M plan is actually sufficient for most
>> people to work from home (assuming they aren’t contending with the rest of
>> the family trying to watch Netflix and Youtube).
>>
>>
>>
>> Is this some kind of a trend, people needing that much upstream to work
>> from home?  Or just a coincidence I’ve had 2 requests like that in as many
>> weeks.
>>
>

[AFMUG] Cubs win 9-3

2016-11-01 Thread Ken Hohhof

And it goes to game 7.

Re: [AFMUG] BW to work from home

2016-11-01 Thread Jaime Solorza

Nope... Getting more common... My daughter needs good upstream to upload
medical scans she does for several clinics and private doctors from house
or retirement places.   She had to upgrade plan from TWC to accommodate
her.

On Nov 1, 2016 9:52 PM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:

> Twice in the past few weeks I’ve had prospective customers say they needed
> a minimum of 20M/5M per company IT dept to work from home, emphasis on the
> 5M upstream.
>
>
>
> This is a lot more than I’ve heard in the past, and seems high to me.  In
> many cases even in town on cable Internet, they will need at least a plan
> with at least 50M download to get that much upload.  My experience in the
> past has been that even our 3M/1M plan is actually sufficient for most
> people to work from home (assuming they aren’t contending with the rest of
> the family trying to watch Netflix and Youtube).
>
>
>
> Is this some kind of a trend, people needing that much upstream to work
> from home?  Or just a coincidence I’ve had 2 requests like that in as many
> weeks.
>

[AFMUG] BW to work from home

2016-11-01 Thread Ken Hohhof

Twice in the past few weeks I've had prospective customers say they needed a
minimum of 20M/5M per company IT dept to work from home, emphasis on the 5M
upstream.

 

This is a lot more than I've heard in the past, and seems high to me.  In
many cases even in town on cable Internet, they will need at least a plan
with at least 50M download to get that much upload.  My experience in the
past has been that even our 3M/1M plan is actually sufficient for most
people to work from home (assuming they aren't contending with the rest of
the family trying to watch Netflix and Youtube).

 

Is this some kind of a trend, people needing that much upstream to work from
home?  Or just a coincidence I've had 2 requests like that in as many weeks.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

2016-11-01 Thread Ken Hohhof

Yes, I'm sure there are some tricky algorithms so it finds non adjacent subs
to talk to simultaneously.  They said you would need subs distributed across
the sector to get maximum benefit.


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 9:52 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

how many arrays are in in? 7 or 14? I wonder if it wont transmit on two
adjacent arrays at the same time

Sent from my iPhone

Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com
tel. 419-562-6405
fax. 419-617-0110

> On Nov 1, 2016, at 10:41 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
> 
> Because it's capable of transmitting different data on each of the 7 2x2
MIMO emitters in the same frame. aka MU-MIMO. Think about a single 2x2
sector. It can talk to only one SM. Now add another sector facing the same
direction. You've doubled your capacity, right? Sure, but you're using twice
the spectrum. Put up 3x 30-degree or 5x 20-degree sectors. More spectrum,
more hardware. The cost of the hardware adds up, but is kind of a moot
point. The spectrum, or lack of, is not so moot.
> 
>> On 11/1/2016 9:05 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>> Also what I don't understand about Medusa, since it has a bunch of
smaller sectors inside of it,, is the sectors inside of it running ABABABAB
frequency re-use? Why is the SM's not getting interference from the adjacent
array if they are all operating on same 20mhz frequency?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

2016-11-01 Thread Rory Conaway

Most of our traffic is UDP one direction, NetFlix so it doesn’t seem to be an 
issue.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 7:49 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

Are all the clients able to see each other? How are you not sufferig from 
hidden node with that many users on an AP in wifi mode?

Sent from my iPhone

Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com
tel. 419-562-6405
fax. 419-617-0110

On Nov 1, 2016, at 10:40 PM, Rory Conaway 
> wrote:
WiFi mode.  It has mixed users, C5’s and Ubiquiti.  TDMA isn’t out yet.   We 
are pretty much stuck with that in most of our areas unless we want to replace 
several hundred radios.  New areas are all Mimosa’s so those will be TDMA.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 7:28 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

Rory,

Is that Mimosa A5 running in WIFI mode or do you have TDMA firmware for it?

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Rory Conaway 
> wrote:
I’ve got Mimosa Networks A5s with 50 users running about 14% utilization so 100 
users shouldn’t be a big problem.  We have an A5c going up tomorrow that should 
be pushing the 100 in the next 60 days.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 7:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

Cambium will never lower SM price until a competitor brings another solution to 
market that you could also load 100subs on and not have the thing choke. 
Hopefully Airfiber PTMP will be that. Also what I don't understand about 
Medusa, since it has a bunch of smaller sectors inside of it,, is the sectors 
inside of it running ABABABAB frequency re-use? Why is the SM's not getting 
interference from the adjacent array if they are all operating on same 20mhz 
frequency?

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 9:09 PM, George Skorup 
> wrote:
Update all SMs on the sector to 15.0.0.1. Hang 450m. Shut off 450 sector and 
turn 450m on. Collect stats and share. :)

Don't have high expectations if you have a high concentration of SMs in one 
direction. But you should really see a difference where they're fairly spread 
out over 60-90 degrees. Remember it's 7x 13-degree beams and tweaking the 
azimuth just a little bit may help balance things out.
On 11/1/2016 1:58 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
That is 100% why I want to use it.ï¿½ We have an overloaded AP and no new 
frequency.ï¿½ A 3x performance boost will solve the problem.ï¿½ I also hope the 
17 degree beams will reduce interference seen by the AP.
ï¿½
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
ï¿½
The data that Matt showed us at HQ a few weeks ago where an operator (not in 
the US) with over 100 SMs! on a single 450 sector proved that a performance 
boost of 3-3.5x is possible simply by swapping to a 450m sector. And that's 
still using only that single 20MHz channel in 90 degrees. They created this 
thing for a reason. And that right there is it. Nuckin futs.
On 11/1/2016 9:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Rise Broadband
?
ï¿½
From: Matt Mangriotis
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:08 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
ï¿½
I will say that we have a [very large] customer that will remain nameless, 
which has ~1100 active customers across more than 12 sectors of 450m.ï¿½ They 
are very pleased with the performance.
ï¿½
There are several others that are putting up their first sectors now as 
well.ï¿½ If you run into issues, we are escalating support cases to our team 
that has a lot of experience in deploying this model.
ï¿½
Matt
ï¿½
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 8:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
ï¿½
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphonse_and_Gaston#/media/File:Alphonsegaston.jpg
ï¿½
ï¿½
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 7:39 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
ï¿½
Our first 450m should arrive this week.ï¿½ We plan to replace an existing 450 
AP that has 66 customers for our first

Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

2016-11-01 Thread Charles Regan

Probably the good old Panasonic 18650 3800mah

My ebike fly at 70km/h with those fully charged to 84v.

On Nov 1, 2016 10:54 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser"  wrote:

> What battery technology is in this powerwall? Lithion Ion? How are they
> getting that many kilowatts in a 200 pound package?
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 6:27 PM, Charles Regan 
> wrote:
>
>> No special charger.  You can adjust the charging voltage and LVC on the
>> Meanwell.
>>
>> On Nov 1, 2016 4:14 PM, "SmarterBroadband" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Being lithium do the Winston batteries need a special charger?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Charles Regan
>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2016 6:35 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We are using Meanwell TN3000, pure sine wave 3000W inverter charger. It
>>> has a solar plug too. Cost is 950$
>>>
>>> Small sites has the 1500W version the the inverter and Winston 24v 60Ah
>>> lithium battery.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 31, 2016 10:17 PM, "Adam Moffett"  wrote:
>>>
>>> 60% DOD is pretty conservative.  Do you lose power a lot?  Losing power
>>> at this site is somewhat of a hypothetical event.  A Mack truck on the
>>> highway wiped out 5 poles and we ran on propane for a whole day.  The
>>> previous outage was years before, and I don't expect another one for a few
>>> more years.
>>>
>>> ...and ideally I'm only on battery for a minute or two while the genny
>>> gets started.
>>>
>>> This was my thinking as well.. With my AGM setups I’m not comfortable
>>> pushing beyond 60% DOD.. I’m also paying a lot for 10-year rated large Ah
>>> AGM batteries these days.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Peter Kranz*www.UnwiredLtd.com 
>>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>>> Mobile: 510-207-
>>> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2016 2:33 PM
>>> *To:* af  
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Figuring those prices, you're not going to end up too far off from the
>>> price of the Tesla for the same run time. Tripling the batteries will put
>>> you up to somewhere around $4500, for basically the same kWh, but if you
>>> factor in being able to 100% discharge the Tesla setup, you're going to
>>> need to add a bunch more battery.
>>>
>>> I wonder how the life expectancy compares...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Adam Moffett 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> That's the same link I sent earlier, bro.
>>>
>>> $3049 is list priceyou'll pay closer to $2500 - $2600.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/31/2016 3:47 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>
>>> This looks like it:
>>>
>>> http://www.aimscorp.net/12000-Watt-Inverter-Charger-48-volt-
>>> 120-240vac.html
>>>
>>> ï¿½
>>>
>>> $3409/12000=28.4 cents per watt.ï¿½
>>>
>>> Not too bad considering there is a battery charger in there.
>>>
>>> ï¿½
>>>
>>> *From:* Adam Moffett
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2016 1:01 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2
>>>
>>> ï¿½
>>>
>>> http://www.aimscorp.net/12000-Watt-Inverter-Charger-48-volt-
>>> 120-240vac.html
>>>
>>> This has a street price of $2500.ï¿½ The four SLA batteries were (I
>>> think) $160 each.ï¿½ The 3/0 battery cable was not free, but I don't
>>> remember what it cost.ï¿½ This is only 4800 Wh, but it's trivial to add
>>> more/bigger batteries.ï¿½
>>>
>>> This doesn't have any built in network monitoring though.does the
>>> Powerwall?
>>>
>>> ï¿½
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/31/2016 2:14 PM, Peter Kranz wrote:
>>>
>>> The new tesla powerwall 2 appears to be an interesting UPS option now
>>> that it has a build in inverter/charger. 14kWh for $5500, so would run most
>>> of my sites for about 24 hours. When I backed out the costs for 14kWh of
>>> our standard AGM cells and inverter, I think this price is quite reasonable.
>>>
>>> ï¿½
>>>
>>> https://www.tesla.com/powerwall
>>>
>>> ï¿½
>>>
>>>
>>> *Peter Kranz*www.UnwiredLtd.com 
>>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>>> Mobile: 510-207-
>>> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>>>
>>> ï¿½
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

2016-11-01 Thread Kurt Fankhauser

how many arrays are in in? 7 or 14? I wonder if it wont transmit on two 
adjacent arrays at the same time

Sent from my iPhone

Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com
tel. 419-562-6405
fax. 419-617-0110

> On Nov 1, 2016, at 10:41 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
> 
> Because it's capable of transmitting different data on each of the 7 2x2 MIMO 
> emitters in the same frame. aka MU-MIMO. Think about a single 2x2 sector. It 
> can talk to only one SM. Now add another sector facing the same direction. 
> You've doubled your capacity, right? Sure, but you're using twice the 
> spectrum. Put up 3x 30-degree or 5x 20-degree sectors. More spectrum, more 
> hardware. The cost of the hardware adds up, but is kind of a moot point. The 
> spectrum, or lack of, is not so moot.
> 
>> On 11/1/2016 9:05 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>> Also what I don't understand about Medusa, since it has a bunch of smaller 
>> sectors inside of it,, is the sectors inside of it running ABABABAB 
>> frequency re-use? Why is the SM's not getting interference from the adjacent 
>> array if they are all operating on same 20mhz frequency?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

2016-11-01 Thread Kurt Fankhauser

Are all the clients able to see each other? How are you not sufferig from 
hidden node with that many users on an AP in wifi mode?

Sent from my iPhone

Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com
tel. 419-562-6405
fax. 419-617-0110

> On Nov 1, 2016, at 10:40 PM, Rory Conaway  wrote:
> 
> WiFi mode.  It has mixed users, C5’s and Ubiquiti.  TDMA isn’t out yet.   We 
> are pretty much stuck with that in most of our areas unless we want to 
> replace several hundred radios.  New areas are all Mimosa’s so those will be 
> TDMA.
>  
> Rory
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 7:28 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
>  
> Rory,
>  
> Is that Mimosa A5 running in WIFI mode or do you have TDMA firmware for it?
>  
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Rory Conaway  wrote:
> I’ve got Mimosa Networks A5s with 50 users running about 14% utilization so 
> 100 users shouldn’t be a big problem.  We have an A5c going up tomorrow that 
> should be pushing the 100 in the next 60 days.
>  
> Rory
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 7:05 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
>  
> Cambium will never lower SM price until a competitor brings another solution 
> to market that you could also load 100subs on and not have the thing choke. 
> Hopefully Airfiber PTMP will be that. Also what I don't understand about 
> Medusa, since it has a bunch of smaller sectors inside of it,, is the sectors 
> inside of it running ABABABAB frequency re-use? Why is the SM's not getting 
> interference from the adjacent array if they are all operating on same 20mhz 
> frequency?
>  
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 9:09 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
> Update all SMs on the sector to 15.0.0.1. Hang 450m. Shut off 450 sector and 
> turn 450m on. Collect stats and share. :)
> 
> Don't have high expectations if you have a high concentration of SMs in one 
> direction. But you should really see a difference where they're fairly spread 
> out over 60-90 degrees. Remember it's 7x 13-degree beams and tweaking the 
> azimuth just a little bit may help balance things out.
> 
> On 11/1/2016 1:58 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
> That is 100% why I want to use it.ï¿½ We have an overloaded AP and no new 
> frequency.ï¿½ A 3x performance boost will solve the problem.ï¿½ I also hope 
> the 17 degree beams will reduce interference seen by the AP.
> ï¿½
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:30 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
> ï¿½
> The data that Matt showed us at HQ a few weeks ago where an operator (not in 
> the US) with over 100 SMs! on a single 450 sector proved that a performance 
> boost of 3-3.5x is possible simply by swapping to a 450m sector. And that's 
> still using only that single 20MHz channel in 90 degrees. They created this 
> thing for a reason. And that right there is it. Nuckin futs.
> 
> On 11/1/2016 9:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> Rise Broadband
> ?
> ï¿½
> From: Matt Mangriotis
> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:08 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
> ï¿½
> I will say that we have a [very large] customer that will remain nameless, 
> which has ~1100 active customers across more than 12 sectors of 450m.ï¿½ They 
> are very pleased with the performance.
> ï¿½
> There are several others that are putting up their first sectors now as 
> well.ï¿½ If you run into issues, we are escalating support cases to our team 
> that has a lot of experience in deploying this model.
> ï¿½
> Matt
> ï¿½
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 8:34 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
> ï¿½
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphonse_and_Gaston#/media/File:Alphonsegaston.jpg
> ï¿½
> ï¿½
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 7:39 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
> ï¿½
> Our first 450m should arrive this week.ï¿½ We plan to replace an existing 450 
> AP that has 66 customers for our first deployment.
> ï¿½
> However, I do not want to do this until I have heard that there are some 
> installed and working.
> ï¿½
> Does anyone have 450m up and running.ï¿½ Would you please share your 
> experiences and results.
> ï¿½
> Thanks
> ï¿½
> Adam
> ï¿½
> ï¿½
> ï¿½
>  
>  
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

2016-11-01 Thread George Skorup

Because it's capable of transmitting different data on each of the 7 2x2 
MIMO emitters in the same frame. aka MU-MIMO. Think about a single 2x2 
sector. It can talk to only one SM. Now add another sector facing the 
same direction. You've doubled your capacity, right? Sure, but you're 
using twice the spectrum. Put up 3x 30-degree or 5x 20-degree sectors. 
More spectrum, more hardware. The cost of the hardware adds up, but is 
kind of a moot point. The spectrum, or lack of, is not so moot.


On 11/1/2016 9:05 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
Also what I don't understand about Medusa, since it has a bunch of 
smaller sectors inside of it,, is the sectors inside of it running 
ABABABAB frequency re-use? Why is the SM's not getting interference 
from the adjacent array if they are all operating on same 20mhz frequency?

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

2016-11-01 Thread Rory Conaway

WiFi mode.  It has mixed users, C5’s and Ubiquiti.  TDMA isn’t out yet.   We 
are pretty much stuck with that in most of our areas unless we want to replace 
several hundred radios.  New areas are all Mimosa’s so those will be TDMA.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 7:28 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

Rory,

Is that Mimosa A5 running in WIFI mode or do you have TDMA firmware for it?

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Rory Conaway 
> wrote:
I’ve got Mimosa Networks A5s with 50 users running about 14% utilization so 100 
users shouldn’t be a big problem.  We have an A5c going up tomorrow that should 
be pushing the 100 in the next 60 days.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 7:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

Cambium will never lower SM price until a competitor brings another solution to 
market that you could also load 100subs on and not have the thing choke. 
Hopefully Airfiber PTMP will be that. Also what I don't understand about 
Medusa, since it has a bunch of smaller sectors inside of it,, is the sectors 
inside of it running ABABABAB frequency re-use? Why is the SM's not getting 
interference from the adjacent array if they are all operating on same 20mhz 
frequency?

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 9:09 PM, George Skorup 
> wrote:
Update all SMs on the sector to 15.0.0.1. Hang 450m. Shut off 450 sector and 
turn 450m on. Collect stats and share. :)

Don't have high expectations if you have a high concentration of SMs in one 
direction. But you should really see a difference where they're fairly spread 
out over 60-90 degrees. Remember it's 7x 13-degree beams and tweaking the 
azimuth just a little bit may help balance things out.
On 11/1/2016 1:58 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
That is 100% why I want to use it.ï¿½ We have an overloaded AP and no new 
frequency.ï¿½ A 3x performance boost will solve the problem.ï¿½ I also hope the 
17 degree beams will reduce interference seen by the AP.
ï¿½
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
ï¿½
The data that Matt showed us at HQ a few weeks ago where an operator (not in 
the US) with over 100 SMs! on a single 450 sector proved that a performance 
boost of 3-3.5x is possible simply by swapping to a 450m sector. And that's 
still using only that single 20MHz channel in 90 degrees. They created this 
thing for a reason. And that right there is it. Nuckin futs.
On 11/1/2016 9:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Rise Broadband
?
ï¿½
From: Matt Mangriotis
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:08 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
ï¿½
I will say that we have a [very large] customer that will remain nameless, 
which has ~1100 active customers across more than 12 sectors of 450m.ï¿½ They 
are very pleased with the performance.
ï¿½
There are several others that are putting up their first sectors now as 
well.ï¿½ If you run into issues, we are escalating support cases to our team 
that has a lot of experience in deploying this model.
ï¿½
Matt
ï¿½
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 8:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
ï¿½
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphonse_and_Gaston#/media/File:Alphonsegaston.jpg
ï¿½
ï¿½
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 7:39 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
ï¿½
Our first 450m should arrive this week.ï¿½ We plan to replace an existing 450 
AP that has 66 customers for our first deployment.
ï¿½
However, I do not want to do this until I have heard that there are some 
installed and working.
ï¿½
Does anyone have 450m up and running.ï¿½ Would you please share your 
experiences and results.
ï¿½
Thanks
ï¿½
Adam
ï¿½
ï¿½
ï¿½

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

2016-11-01 Thread Kurt Fankhauser

Rory,

Is that Mimosa A5 running in WIFI mode or do you have TDMA firmware for it?

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Rory Conaway 
wrote:

> I’ve got Mimosa Networks A5s with 50 users running about 14% utilization
> so 100 users shouldn’t be a big problem.  We have an A5c going up tomorrow
> that should be pushing the 100 in the next 60 days.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2016 7:05 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
>
>
>
> Cambium will never lower SM price until a competitor brings another
> solution to market that you could also load 100subs on and not have the
> thing choke. Hopefully Airfiber PTMP will be that. Also what I don't
> understand about Medusa, since it has a bunch of smaller sectors inside of
> it,, is the sectors inside of it running ABABABAB frequency re-use? Why is
> the SM's not getting interference from the adjacent array if they are all
> operating on same 20mhz frequency?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 9:09 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
> Update all SMs on the sector to 15.0.0.1. Hang 450m. Shut off 450 sector
> and turn 450m on. Collect stats and share. :)
>
> Don't have high expectations if you have a high concentration of SMs in
> one direction. But you should really see a difference where they're fairly
> spread out over 60-90 degrees. Remember it's 7x 13-degree beams and
> tweaking the azimuth just a little bit may help balance things out.
>
> On 11/1/2016 1:58 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
>
> That is 100% why I want to use it.ï¿½ We have an overloaded AP and no new
> frequency.ï¿½ A 3x performance boost will solve the problem.ï¿½ I also hope
> the 17 degree beams will reduce interference seen by the AP.
>
> ï¿½
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *George Skorup
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:30 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
>
> ï¿½
>
> The data that Matt showed us at HQ a few weeks ago where an operator (not
> in the US) with over 100 SMs! on a single 450 sector proved that a
> performance boost of 3-3.5x is possible simply by swapping to a 450m
> sector. And that's still using only that single 20MHz channel in 90
> degrees. They created this thing for a reason. And that right there is it.
> Nuckin futs.
>
> On 11/1/2016 9:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Rise Broadband
>
> ?
>
> ï¿½
>
> *From:* Matt Mangriotis
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:08 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
>
> ï¿½
>
> I will say that we have a [very large] customer that will remain nameless,
> which has ~1100 active customers across more than 12 sectors of 450m.ï¿½
> They are very pleased with the performance.
>
> ï¿½
>
> There are several others that are putting up their first sectors now as
> well.ï¿½ If you run into issues, we are escalating support cases to our
> team that has a lot of experience in deploying this model.
>
> ï¿½
>
> Matt
>
> ï¿½
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2016 8:34 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
>
> ï¿½
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphonse_and_Gaston#/media/
> File:Alphonsegaston.jpg
> 
>
> ï¿½
>
> ï¿½
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *SmarterBroadband
> *Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2016 7:39 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
>
> ï¿½
>
> Our first 450m should arrive this week.ï¿½ We plan to replace an existing
> 450 AP that has 66 customers for our first deployment.
>
> ï¿½
>
> However, I do not want to do this until I have heard that there are some
> installed and working.
>
> ï¿½
>
> Does anyone have 450m up and running.ï¿½ Would you please share your
> experiences and results.
>
> ï¿½
>
> Thanks
>
> ï¿½
>
> Adam
>
> ï¿½
>
> ï¿½
>
> ï¿½
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

2016-11-01 Thread Rory Conaway

I’ve got Mimosa Networks A5s with 50 users running about 14% utilization so 100 
users shouldn’t be a big problem.  We have an A5c going up tomorrow that should 
be pushing the 100 in the next 60 days.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 7:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

Cambium will never lower SM price until a competitor brings another solution to 
market that you could also load 100subs on and not have the thing choke. 
Hopefully Airfiber PTMP will be that. Also what I don't understand about 
Medusa, since it has a bunch of smaller sectors inside of it,, is the sectors 
inside of it running ABABABAB frequency re-use? Why is the SM's not getting 
interference from the adjacent array if they are all operating on same 20mhz 
frequency?

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 9:09 PM, George Skorup 
> wrote:
Update all SMs on the sector to 15.0.0.1. Hang 450m. Shut off 450 sector and 
turn 450m on. Collect stats and share. :)

Don't have high expectations if you have a high concentration of SMs in one 
direction. But you should really see a difference where they're fairly spread 
out over 60-90 degrees. Remember it's 7x 13-degree beams and tweaking the 
azimuth just a little bit may help balance things out.
On 11/1/2016 1:58 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
That is 100% why I want to use it.ï¿½ We have an overloaded AP and no new 
frequency.ï¿½ A 3x performance boost will solve the problem.ï¿½ I also hope the 
17 degree beams will reduce interference seen by the AP.
ï¿½
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
ï¿½
The data that Matt showed us at HQ a few weeks ago where an operator (not in 
the US) with over 100 SMs! on a single 450 sector proved that a performance 
boost of 3-3.5x is possible simply by swapping to a 450m sector. And that's 
still using only that single 20MHz channel in 90 degrees. They created this 
thing for a reason. And that right there is it. Nuckin futs.
On 11/1/2016 9:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Rise Broadband
?
ï¿½
From: Matt Mangriotis
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:08 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
ï¿½
I will say that we have a [very large] customer that will remain nameless, 
which has ~1100 active customers across more than 12 sectors of 450m.ï¿½ They 
are very pleased with the performance.
ï¿½
There are several others that are putting up their first sectors now as 
well.ï¿½ If you run into issues, we are escalating support cases to our team 
that has a lot of experience in deploying this model.
ï¿½
Matt
ï¿½
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 8:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
ï¿½
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphonse_and_Gaston#/media/File:Alphonsegaston.jpg
ï¿½
ï¿½
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 7:39 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
ï¿½
Our first 450m should arrive this week.ï¿½ We plan to replace an existing 450 
AP that has 66 customers for our first deployment.
ï¿½
However, I do not want to do this until I have heard that there are some 
installed and working.
ï¿½
Does anyone have 450m up and running.ï¿½ Would you please share your 
experiences and results.
ï¿½
Thanks
ï¿½
Adam
ï¿½
ï¿½
ï¿½

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

2016-11-01 Thread Kurt Fankhauser

Cambium will never lower SM price until a competitor brings another
solution to market that you could also load 100subs on and not have the
thing choke. Hopefully Airfiber PTMP will be that. Also what I don't
understand about Medusa, since it has a bunch of smaller sectors inside of
it,, is the sectors inside of it running ABABABAB frequency re-use? Why is
the SM's not getting interference from the adjacent array if they are all
operating on same 20mhz frequency?

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 9:09 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

> Update all SMs on the sector to 15.0.0.1. Hang 450m. Shut off 450 sector
> and turn 450m on. Collect stats and share. :)
>
> Don't have high expectations if you have a high concentration of SMs in
> one direction. But you should really see a difference where they're fairly
> spread out over 60-90 degrees. Remember it's 7x 13-degree beams and
> tweaking the azimuth just a little bit may help balance things out.
>
> On 11/1/2016 1:58 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
>
> That is 100% why I want to use it.ï¿½ We have an overloaded AP and no new
> frequency.ï¿½ A 3x performance boost will solve the problem.ï¿½ I also hope
> the 17 degree beams will reduce interference seen by the AP.
>
> ï¿½
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *George Skorup
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:30 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
>
> ï¿½
>
> The data that Matt showed us at HQ a few weeks ago where an operator (not
> in the US) with over 100 SMs! on a single 450 sector proved that a
> performance boost of 3-3.5x is possible simply by swapping to a 450m
> sector. And that's still using only that single 20MHz channel in 90
> degrees. They created this thing for a reason. And that right there is it.
> Nuckin futs.
>
> On 11/1/2016 9:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Rise Broadband
>
> ?
>
> ï¿½
>
> *From:* Matt Mangriotis
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:08 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
>
> ï¿½
>
> I will say that we have a [very large] customer that will remain nameless,
> which has ~1100 active customers across more than 12 sectors of 450m.ï¿½
> They are very pleased with the performance.
>
> ï¿½
>
> There are several others that are putting up their first sectors now as
> well.ï¿½ If you run into issues, we are escalating support cases to our
> team that has a lot of experience in deploying this model.
>
> ï¿½
>
> Matt
>
> ï¿½
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2016 8:34 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
>
> ï¿½
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphonse_and_Gaston#/media/
> File:Alphonsegaston.jpg
> 
>
> ï¿½
>
> ï¿½
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *SmarterBroadband
> *Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2016 7:39 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
>
> ï¿½
>
> Our first 450m should arrive this week.ï¿½ We plan to replace an existing
> 450 AP that has 66 customers for our first deployment.
>
> ï¿½
>
> However, I do not want to do this until I have heard that there are some
> installed and working.
>
> ï¿½
>
> Does anyone have 450m up and running.ï¿½ Would you please share your
> experiences and results.
>
> ï¿½
>
> Thanks
>
> ï¿½
>
> Adam
>
> ï¿½
>
> ï¿½
>
> ï¿½
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Wow.. They even let hippies vote

2016-11-01 Thread Jaime Solorza

doesn't everyone?

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 7:56 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> yes of course...
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 7:52 PM, can...@believewireless.net <
> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>
>> Are you showing the number of times you voted?
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 5:03 PM, Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Done..
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Wow.. They even let hippies vote

2016-11-01 Thread Jaime Solorza

yes of course...

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 7:52 PM, can...@believewireless.net <
p...@believewireless.net> wrote:

> Are you showing the number of times you voted?
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 5:03 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Done..
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

2016-11-01 Thread Kurt Fankhauser

What battery technology is in this powerwall? Lithion Ion? How are they
getting that many kilowatts in a 200 pound package?

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 6:27 PM, Charles Regan 
wrote:

> No special charger.  You can adjust the charging voltage and LVC on the
> Meanwell.
>
> On Nov 1, 2016 4:14 PM, "SmarterBroadband" 
> wrote:
>
>> Being lithium do the Winston batteries need a special charger?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Charles Regan
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2016 6:35 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2
>>
>>
>>
>> We are using Meanwell TN3000, pure sine wave 3000W inverter charger. It
>> has a solar plug too. Cost is 950$
>>
>> Small sites has the 1500W version the the inverter and Winston 24v 60Ah
>> lithium battery.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 31, 2016 10:17 PM, "Adam Moffett"  wrote:
>>
>> 60% DOD is pretty conservative.  Do you lose power a lot?  Losing power
>> at this site is somewhat of a hypothetical event.  A Mack truck on the
>> highway wiped out 5 poles and we ran on propane for a whole day.  The
>> previous outage was years before, and I don't expect another one for a few
>> more years.
>>
>> ...and ideally I'm only on battery for a minute or two while the genny
>> gets started.
>>
>> This was my thinking as well.. With my AGM setups I’m not comfortable
>> pushing beyond 60% DOD.. I’m also paying a lot for 10-year rated large Ah
>> AGM batteries these days.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Peter Kranz*www.UnwiredLtd.com 
>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>> Mobile: 510-207-
>> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
>> Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2016 2:33 PM
>> *To:* af  
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2
>>
>>
>>
>> Figuring those prices, you're not going to end up too far off from the
>> price of the Tesla for the same run time. Tripling the batteries will put
>> you up to somewhere around $4500, for basically the same kWh, but if you
>> factor in being able to 100% discharge the Tesla setup, you're going to
>> need to add a bunch more battery.
>>
>> I wonder how the life expectancy compares...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Adam Moffett 
>> wrote:
>>
>> That's the same link I sent earlier, bro.
>>
>> $3049 is list priceyou'll pay closer to $2500 - $2600.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/31/2016 3:47 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>> This looks like it:
>>
>> http://www.aimscorp.net/12000-Watt-Inverter-Charger-48-volt-
>> 120-240vac.html
>>
>> ï¿½
>>
>> $3409/12000=28.4 cents per watt.ï¿½
>>
>> Not too bad considering there is a battery charger in there.
>>
>> ï¿½
>>
>> *From:* Adam Moffett
>>
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2016 1:01 PM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2
>>
>> ï¿½
>>
>> http://www.aimscorp.net/12000-Watt-Inverter-Charger-48-volt-
>> 120-240vac.html
>>
>> This has a street price of $2500.ï¿½ The four SLA batteries were (I
>> think) $160 each.ï¿½ The 3/0 battery cable was not free, but I don't
>> remember what it cost.ï¿½ This is only 4800 Wh, but it's trivial to add
>> more/bigger batteries.ï¿½
>>
>> This doesn't have any built in network monitoring though.does the
>> Powerwall?
>>
>> ï¿½
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/31/2016 2:14 PM, Peter Kranz wrote:
>>
>> The new tesla powerwall 2 appears to be an interesting UPS option now
>> that it has a build in inverter/charger. 14kWh for $5500, so would run most
>> of my sites for about 24 hours. When I backed out the costs for 14kWh of
>> our standard AGM cells and inverter, I think this price is quite reasonable.
>>
>> ï¿½
>>
>> https://www.tesla.com/powerwall
>>
>> ï¿½
>>
>>
>> *Peter Kranz*www.UnwiredLtd.com 
>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>> Mobile: 510-207-
>> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>>
>> ï¿½
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Wow.. They even let hippies vote

2016-11-01 Thread can...@believewireless.net

Are you showing the number of times you voted?

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 5:03 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Done..
>

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras

2016-11-01 Thread Ken Hohhof

Cool.  Thanks.

Their model numbers are confusing.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 8:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras

 

Proper part number is DH-SD50A230TN-HN(I) 

http://www.dahuasecurity.com/en/us/category.php?cid=559

 

 

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  > wrote:

I'm not using Coax, I am using IP. Must have put the wrong part number in there.

 

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Ken Hohhof  > wrote:

Kurt, sorry to keep bugging you about this, but I just realized that is the 
coax version of the Dahua camera, the POE version would appear to be 
DH-SD50A230TN-HN.

 

Any reason you  are using analog rather than IP?  Are you feeding multiple 
cameras into an encoder/DVR or something?  I typically have spare Cat5 cables 
up towers but not coax.  I’m assuming the network version could be powered via 
802.3at up to 300 ft.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com  ] On Behalf 
Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 8:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras

 

Paul,

 

I have done this on 5 different towers this summer and it works great. The 
camera I am using a PTZ with 30x optical zoom Dahua brand model# 
DH-SD50A230IN-HC-S2 Its a Chinese camera but the housing is rugged and rated 
for IP67. You can pick them up for anywhere from $400-600 online. Here is a 
video I made from a 130' tower with this camera. In the video I am controlling 
the camera from 15 miles away sitting at my office. 

 

https://youtu.be/wl9gLF0nZ9o

 

 

 

 

On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Jerry Head  > wrote:

We have hung about 6 of these for the local 911 guys...
http://www.axis.com/ie/en/products/axis-p56-series
They seem to work pretty well.


On 10/27/2016 9:54 AM, Paul McCall wrote:

We want to put a camera(s) at the top of a 400ï¿½ tower.ï¿½ Best way to get 360 
degree coverage?

ï¿½

Paul

ï¿½

Paul McCall, President

PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800ï¿½ 

pa...@pdmnet.net  

www.pdmnet.com  

www.floridabroadband.com  

ï¿½

ï¿½

[AFMUG] Facebook will contribute architecture and code for their 1U 800Gbps DWDM system to TIP

2016-11-01 Thread Josh Reynolds

http://venturebeat.com/2016/11/01/facebook-develops-voyager-optical-transponder-will-contribute-design-to-telecom-infra-project/

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras

2016-11-01 Thread Kurt Fankhauser

Proper part number is DH-SD50A230TN-HN(I)
http://www.dahuasecurity.com/en/us/category.php?cid=559


On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
wrote:

> I'm not using Coax, I am using IP. Must have put the wrong part number in
> there.
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>> Kurt, sorry to keep bugging you about this, but I just realized that is
>> the coax version of the Dahua camera, the POE version would appear to be
>> DH-SD50A230TN-HN.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any reason you  are using analog rather than IP?  Are you feeding
>> multiple cameras into an encoder/DVR or something?  I typically have spare
>> Cat5 cables up towers but not coax.  I’m assuming the network version could
>> be powered via 802.3at up to 300 ft.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 27, 2016 8:34 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have done this on 5 different towers this summer and it works great.
>> The camera I am using a PTZ with 30x optical zoom Dahua brand model#
>> DH-SD50A230IN-HC-S2 Its a Chinese camera but the housing is rugged and
>> rated for IP67. You can pick them up for anywhere from $400-600 online.
>> Here is a video I made from a 130' tower with this camera. In the video I
>> am controlling the camera from 15 miles away sitting at my office.
>>
>>
>>
>> https://youtu.be/wl9gLF0nZ9o
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Jerry Head 
>> wrote:
>>
>> We have hung about 6 of these for the local 911 guys...
>> http://www.axis.com/ie/en/products/axis-p56-series
>> They seem to work pretty well.
>>
>>
>> On 10/27/2016 9:54 AM, Paul McCall wrote:
>>
>> We want to put a camera(s) at the top of a 400ï¿½ tower.ï¿½ Best way to
>> get 360 degree coverage?
>>
>> ï¿½
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> ï¿½
>>
>> Paul McCall, President
>>
>> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>>
>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>>
>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>>
>> 772-564-6800ï¿½
>>
>> pa...@pdmnet.net
>>
>> www.pdmnet.com
>>
>> www.floridabroadband.com
>>
>> ï¿½
>>
>> ï¿½
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras

2016-11-01 Thread Kurt Fankhauser

I'm not using Coax, I am using IP. Must have put the wrong part number in
there.

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Kurt, sorry to keep bugging you about this, but I just realized that is
> the coax version of the Dahua camera, the POE version would appear to be
> DH-SD50A230TN-HN.
>
>
>
> Any reason you  are using analog rather than IP?  Are you feeding multiple
> cameras into an encoder/DVR or something?  I typically have spare Cat5
> cables up towers but not coax.  I’m assuming the network version could be
> powered via 802.3at up to 300 ft.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 27, 2016 8:34 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras
>
>
>
> Paul,
>
>
>
> I have done this on 5 different towers this summer and it works great. The
> camera I am using a PTZ with 30x optical zoom Dahua brand model#
> DH-SD50A230IN-HC-S2 Its a Chinese camera but the housing is rugged and
> rated for IP67. You can pick them up for anywhere from $400-600 online.
> Here is a video I made from a 130' tower with this camera. In the video I
> am controlling the camera from 15 miles away sitting at my office.
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/wl9gLF0nZ9o
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Jerry Head 
> wrote:
>
> We have hung about 6 of these for the local 911 guys...
> http://www.axis.com/ie/en/products/axis-p56-series
> They seem to work pretty well.
>
>
> On 10/27/2016 9:54 AM, Paul McCall wrote:
>
> We want to put a camera(s) at the top of a 400ï¿½ tower.ï¿½ Best way to
> get 360 degree coverage?
>
> ï¿½
>
> Paul
>
> ï¿½
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>
> 772-564-6800ï¿½
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
> ï¿½
>
> ï¿½
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

2016-11-01 Thread George Skorup

Update all SMs on the sector to 15.0.0.1. Hang 450m. Shut off 450 sector 
and turn 450m on. Collect stats and share. :)


Don't have high expectations if you have a high concentration of SMs in 
one direction. But you should really see a difference where they're 
fairly spread out over 60-90 degrees. Remember it's 7x 13-degree beams 
and tweaking the azimuth just a little bit may help balance things out.


On 11/1/2016 1:58 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:


That is 100% why I want to use it.  We have an overloaded AP and no 
new frequency.  A 3x performance boost will solve the problem. I also 
hope the 17 degree beams will reduce interference seen by the AP.


*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:30 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

The data that Matt showed us at HQ a few weeks ago where an operator 
(not in the US) with over 100 SMs! on a single 450 sector proved that 
a performance boost of 3-3.5x is possible simply by swapping to a 450m 
sector. And that's still using only that single 20MHz channel in 90 
degrees. They created this thing for a reason. And that right there is 
it. Nuckin futs.


On 11/1/2016 9:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Rise Broadband

?

ï¿½

*From:*Matt Mangriotis

*Sent:*Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:08 AM

*To:*af@afmug.com 

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

ï¿½

I will say that we have a [very large] customer that will remain
nameless, which has ~1100 active customers across more than 12
sectors of 450m.ï¿½ They are very pleased with the performance.

ï¿½

There are several others that are putting up their first sectors
now as well.ï¿½ If you run into issues, we are escalating support
cases to our team that has a lot of experience in deploying this
model.

ï¿½

Matt

ï¿½

*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2016 8:34 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

ï¿½


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphonse_and_Gaston#/media/File:Alphonsegaston.jpg



ï¿½

ï¿½

*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of
*SmarterBroadband
*Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2016 7:39 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

ï¿½

Our first 450m should arrive this week.ï¿½ We plan to replace an
existing 450 AP that has 66 customers for our first deployment.

ï¿½

However, I do not want to do this until I have heard that there
are some installed and working.

ï¿½

Does anyone have 450m up and running.ï¿½ Would you please share
your experiences and results.

ï¿½

Thanks

ï¿½

Adam

ï¿½

ï¿½

Re: [AFMUG] Wow.. They even let hippies vote

2016-11-01 Thread Lewis Bergman

The only statement that counts in Texas is voting libertarian. Everything
else might as well be in concrete.

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016, 7:45 PM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> U insert a card into slot of touch screen... No write it option... Maybe
> white out might have worked... Sorry Pat Paulsen
>
> On Nov 1, 2016 6:30 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
> wrote:
>
> You checked trump, right? You should have wrote in bad hombre, I bet that
> write in clears 1k votes this yer
>
> On Nov 1, 2016 4:03 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:
>
> Done..
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] VPN through onstar wifi?

2016-11-01 Thread George Skorup

Look at your MT log. Most likely a NAT issue through the Onstar crap. 
You'll probably see key exchange timeout or something like that. I 
forget what exactly since the last time I debugged it. L2TP/IPSec won't 
work through my Canopy SM NAT or R200 either, I haven't bothered to 
figure out which it is yet.


On 11/1/2016 7:36 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:


I canï¿½t be the only one that has tried to do this on the list. My 
newest Chevy truck came with onstar wifi free for three months. On a 
daily basis I tether up to my Verizon phone and VPN into our microtik 
routers with my laptop. However when I connect up to the onstar and 
try to VPN I get the attached screen cap. Pretty much error code 800 
VPN tunnel failed. I have played around with the encryption types and 
so on our of desperation I have talked to two different ï¿½techsï¿½ at 
onstar and I feel I may have lost all hope in hunmanity at the very 
least I lost an hour of my life. I did learn that Onstar wifi is 
provided by ATT cellular. So I am reaching out to the list to see if 
there is something strange / blocked on ATT that wont allow VPN into 
the microtik? According to onstar ï¿½they donï¿½t block anythingï¿½.


Anyone have any thoughts? It would be nice to be able to make this 
work so I can buy some data to use when outside of Verizon coverage 
but still covered by ATT / Onstar.

Re: [AFMUG] Wow.. They even let hippies vote

2016-11-01 Thread Jaime Solorza

U insert a card into slot of touch screen... No write it option... Maybe
white out might have worked... Sorry Pat Paulsen

On Nov 1, 2016 6:30 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> You checked trump, right? You should have wrote in bad hombre, I bet that
> write in clears 1k votes this yer
>
> On Nov 1, 2016 4:03 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:
>
>> Done..
>>
>

[AFMUG] VPN through onstar wifi?

2016-11-01 Thread Brandon Yuchasz

I can't be the only one that has tried to do this on the list. My newest
Chevy truck came with onstar wifi free for three months. On a daily basis I
tether up to my Verizon phone and VPN into our microtik routers with my
laptop. However when I connect up to the onstar and try to VPN I get the
attached screen cap. Pretty much error code 800 VPN tunnel failed. I have
played around with the encryption types and so on our of desperation I have
talked to two different "techs" at onstar and I feel I may have lost all
hope in hunmanity at the very least I lost an hour of my life. I did learn
that Onstar wifi is provided by ATT cellular. So I am reaching out to the
list to see if there is something strange / blocked on ATT that wont allow
VPN into the microtik? According to onstar "they don't block anything".

 

Anyone have any thoughts? It would be nice to be able to make this work so I
can buy some data to use when outside of Verizon coverage but still covered
by ATT / Onstar.

Re: [AFMUG] Wow.. They even let hippies vote

2016-11-01 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm

You checked trump, right? You should have wrote in bad hombre, I bet that
write in clears 1k votes this yer

On Nov 1, 2016 4:03 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> Done..
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread Jaime Solorza

But what if it rains?

On Nov 1, 2016 5:47 PM, "Jon Langeler"  wrote:

> Thumbs up on the cloud solution. There's an app on your phone among other
> cloud sync options.
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
> On Nov 1, 2016, at 6:25 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
> I have multiple companies but I will probably just move the most active
> one over to the cloud.
> That way the accountants can do things without my involvement.
>
> *From:* Travis Johnson
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2016 2:07 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP
>
> +1
>
> The last pair of dress shoes I purchased cost me $80 and I almost didn't
> do it... LOL
>
> It's all about "value" for me spending over $3,000/year to have Intuit
> host my QB files is just dumb. I can buy their 3-user package for $400 and
> run that for 2-3 years before having to upgrade... saving me over $5,000 in
> two years. :)
>
> Travis
>
>
> On 11/1/2016 1:59 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> You don't keep money by spending it.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 3:56 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> arent you like a bajillionaire now? I figured you lost more than 300
>> bucks a month in your couch cushions
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>>
>>> It's actually very affordable, if you only have a single QB company. You
>>> have to pay the same price for each company... so if you have more than one
>>> or two companies, it's MUCH cheaper to run your own version on a dedicated
>>> server.
>>>
>>> I'd love to move everything to their cloud service... but I have over 10
>>> companies that use QB... $30/month x 10 = TOO EXPENSIVE.
>>>
>>> Travis
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/1/2016 12:00 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes we moved quickbooks to the intuit cloud.  My business partner and
>>> our accountant seem very happy with the transition.  I'm happy with it
>>> because I don't have to deal with supporting it anymore lol.
>>>
>>> -Sean
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 1, 2016, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
 I presume you mean you moved QB to the Intuit cloud.
 How much does that cost?
 They take care of backups etc I would assume?
 How difficult was it to make the transition?
 I presume your accountant can get right in without having to create and
 transfer accountant copies of the DB?

 *From:* Sean Heskett
 *Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:24 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with
 RDP

 we moved ours to their cloud and haven't looked back.  much less clunky
 than running it on a local server etc.

 YMMV

 -Sean


 On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Lewis Bergman 
 wrote:

> This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something worth
> doing or maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows server
> 2012 and try to figure out the while terminal services thing with
> licensing. I was thinking it might just be easier since I only need one or
> two people to remote in just to get some headless PC's and sit them in a
> corner somewhere.
>
> Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?
>
> The specs from QB are:
>
>- Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit &
>64-bit)
>- Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2
>- 2.4 GHz processor
>- 4 GB of RAM
>- 2.5 GB disk space recommended
>- 1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is
>supported
>- 4x DVD-ROM drive
>
>

>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread Jon Langeler

Thumbs up on the cloud solution. There's an app on your phone among other cloud 
sync options.

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Nov 1, 2016, at 6:25 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> 
> I have multiple companies but I will probably just move the most active one 
> over to the cloud.
> That way the accountants can do things without my involvement. 
>  
> From: Travis Johnson
> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 2:07 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP
>  
> +1
> 
> The last pair of dress shoes I purchased cost me $80 and I almost didn't do 
> it... LOL
> 
> It's all about "value" for me spending over $3,000/year to have Intuit 
> host my QB files is just dumb. I can buy their 3-user package for $400 and 
> run that for 2-3 years before having to upgrade... saving me over $5,000 in 
> two years. :)
> 
> Travis
> 
> 
>> On 11/1/2016 1:59 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>> You don't keep money by spending it.
>>  
>>  
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>  
>>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 3:56 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
>>>  wrote:
>>> arent you like a bajillionaire now? I figured you lost more than 300 bucks 
>>> a month in your couch cushions
>>>  
 On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
 It's actually very affordable, if you only have a single QB company. You 
 have to pay the same price for each company... so if you have more than 
 one or two companies, it's MUCH cheaper to run your own version on a 
 dedicated server.
 
 I'd love to move everything to their cloud service... but I have over 10 
 companies that use QB... $30/month x 10 = TOO EXPENSIVE.
 
 Travis
 
 
> On 11/1/2016 12:00 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
> Yes we moved quickbooks to the intuit cloud.  My business partner and our 
> accountant seem very happy with the transition.  I'm happy with it 
> because I don't have to deal with supporting it anymore lol.
>  
> -Sean 
> 
>> On Tuesday, November 1, 2016, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>> I presume you mean you moved QB to the Intuit cloud.
>> How much does that cost?
>> They take care of backups etc I would assume?
>> How difficult was it to make the transition?
>> I presume your accountant can get right in without having to create and 
>> transfer accountant copies of the DB?
>>  
>> From: Sean Heskett
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:24 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP
>>  
>> we moved ours to their cloud and haven't looked back.  much less clunky 
>> than running it on a local server etc.
>>  
>> YMMV
>>  
>> -Sean
>>  
>>  
>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Lewis Bergman  
>> wrote:
>>> This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something worth 
>>> doing or maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows 
>>> server 2012 and try to figure out the while terminal services thing 
>>> with licensing. I was thinking it might just be easier since I only 
>>> need one or two people to remote in just to get some headless PC's and 
>>> sit them in a corner somewhere.
>>>  
>>> Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?
>>>  
>>> The specs from QB are:
>>> Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit & 64-bit)
>>> Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2
>>> 2.4 GHz processor
>>> 4 GB of RAM
>>> 2.5 GB disk space recommended 
>>> 1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is supported
>>> 4x DVD-ROM drive
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> -- 
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
>>> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

2016-11-01 Thread Charles Regan

No special charger.  You can adjust the charging voltage and LVC on the
Meanwell.

On Nov 1, 2016 4:14 PM, "SmarterBroadband" 
wrote:

> Being lithium do the Winston batteries need a special charger?
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Charles Regan
> *Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2016 6:35 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2
>
>
>
> We are using Meanwell TN3000, pure sine wave 3000W inverter charger. It
> has a solar plug too. Cost is 950$
>
> Small sites has the 1500W version the the inverter and Winston 24v 60Ah
> lithium battery.
>
>
>
> On Oct 31, 2016 10:17 PM, "Adam Moffett"  wrote:
>
> 60% DOD is pretty conservative.  Do you lose power a lot?  Losing power at
> this site is somewhat of a hypothetical event.  A Mack truck on the highway
> wiped out 5 poles and we ran on propane for a whole day.  The previous
> outage was years before, and I don't expect another one for a few more
> years.
>
> ...and ideally I'm only on battery for a minute or two while the genny
> gets started.
>
> This was my thinking as well.. With my AGM setups I’m not comfortable
> pushing beyond 60% DOD.. I’m also paying a lot for 10-year rated large Ah
> AGM batteries these days.
>
>
>
>
> *Peter Kranz*www.UnwiredLtd.com 
> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
> Mobile: 510-207-
> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2016 2:33 PM
> *To:* af  
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2
>
>
>
> Figuring those prices, you're not going to end up too far off from the
> price of the Tesla for the same run time. Tripling the batteries will put
> you up to somewhere around $4500, for basically the same kWh, but if you
> factor in being able to 100% discharge the Tesla setup, you're going to
> need to add a bunch more battery.
>
> I wonder how the life expectancy compares...
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
> That's the same link I sent earlier, bro.
>
> $3049 is list priceyou'll pay closer to $2500 - $2600.
>
>
>
> On 10/31/2016 3:47 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> This looks like it:
>
> http://www.aimscorp.net/12000-Watt-Inverter-Charger-48-volt-
> 120-240vac.html
>
> ï¿½
>
> $3409/12000=28.4 cents per watt.ï¿½
>
> Not too bad considering there is a battery charger in there.
>
> ï¿½
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett
>
> *Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2016 1:01 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2
>
> ï¿½
>
> http://www.aimscorp.net/12000-Watt-Inverter-Charger-48-volt-
> 120-240vac.html
>
> This has a street price of $2500.ï¿½ The four SLA batteries were (I think)
> $160 each.ï¿½ The 3/0 battery cable was not free, but I don't remember what
> it cost.ï¿½ This is only 4800 Wh, but it's trivial to add more/bigger
> batteries.ï¿½
>
> This doesn't have any built in network monitoring though.does the
> Powerwall?
>
> ï¿½
>
>
>
> On 10/31/2016 2:14 PM, Peter Kranz wrote:
>
> The new tesla powerwall 2 appears to be an interesting UPS option now that
> it has a build in inverter/charger. 14kWh for $5500, so would run most of
> my sites for about 24 hours. When I backed out the costs for 14kWh of our
> standard AGM cells and inverter, I think this price is quite reasonable.
>
> ï¿½
>
> https://www.tesla.com/powerwall
>
> ï¿½
>
>
> *Peter Kranz*www.UnwiredLtd.com 
> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
> Mobile: 510-207-
> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>
> ï¿½
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread Chuck McCown

I have multiple companies but I will probably just move the most active one 
over to the cloud.
That way the accountants can do things without my involvement.  

From: Travis Johnson 
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 2:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

+1

The last pair of dress shoes I purchased cost me $80 and I almost didn't do 
it... LOL

It's all about "value" for me spending over $3,000/year to have Intuit host 
my QB files is just dumb. I can buy their 3-user package for $400 and run that 
for 2-3 years before having to upgrade... saving me over $5,000 in two years. :)

Travis

On 11/1/2016 1:59 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

  You don't keep money by spending it.

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 3:56 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

arent you like a bajillionaire now? I figured you lost more than 300 bucks 
a month in your couch cushions

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:

  It's actually very affordable, if you only have a single QB company. You 
have to pay the same price for each company... so if you have more than one or 
two companies, it's MUCH cheaper to run your own version on a dedicated server.

  I'd love to move everything to their cloud service... but I have over 10 
companies that use QB... $30/month x 10 = TOO EXPENSIVE.

  Travis

  On 11/1/2016 12:00 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:

Yes we moved quickbooks to the intuit cloud.  My business partner and 
our accountant seem very happy with the transition.  I'm happy with it because 
I don't have to deal with supporting it anymore lol.   

-Sean 

On Tuesday, November 1, 2016, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  I presume you mean you moved QB to the Intuit cloud.
  How much does that cost?
  They take care of backups etc I would assume?
  How difficult was it to make the transition?
  I presume your accountant can get right in without having to create 
and transfer accountant copies of the DB?

  From: Sean Heskett 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:24 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

  we moved ours to their cloud and haven't looked back.  much less 
clunky than running it on a local server etc. 

  YMMV

  -Sean

  On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Lewis Bergman 
 wrote:

This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something 
worth doing or maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows server 
2012 and try to figure out the while terminal services thing with licensing. I 
was thinking it might just be easier since I only need one or two people to 
remote in just to get some headless PC's and sit them in a corner somewhere. 

Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?

The specs from QB are:
  a.. Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit 
& 64-bit) 
  b.. Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2 
  c.. 2.4 GHz processor 
  d.. 4 GB of RAM 
  e.. 2.5 GB disk space recommended  
  f.. 1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is 
supported 
  g.. 4x DVD-ROM drive 

-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Comments on truck wrap, please?

2016-11-01 Thread Seth Mattinen


On 11/1/16 12:52, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

that centurylink van just screams "free candy"



free internet van

Re: [AFMUG] Comments on truck wrap, please?

2016-11-01 Thread Mike Hammett

http://www.mediashow.ro/source/422990 
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/30/article-2080152-0F4C2DDB0578-90_634x263.jpg
 
http://i.imgur.com/5I6kGWz.jpg 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Ken Hohhof"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 3:28:04 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Comments on truck wrap, please? 



It does seem to pass the test that it doesn’t spell something bad when the 
doors are opened. Like the Starbucks van that say Sucks when the sliding door 
is open. 



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman 
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 2:51 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Comments on truck wrap, please? 


That's their new fleet. CenturyLink had to set aside money for their Level 3 
purchase. 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Lewis Bergman < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



No man, that picture of that Century Link Chuck posted. 



On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 2:45 PM Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
wrote: 



2017 Transit 150 bro 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 



On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Lewis Bergman < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 







Trying to guess what the average Joe would understand is pretty tricky. I would 
guess if you succeed you'll get 10 calls for every one you want. By the way, is 
that a 1980's van. WTH? 










On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 2:40 PM Adam Moffett < dmmoff...@gmail.com > wrote: 













That might count as "Private Data Networks". People might not know the term 
point to point. 






-- Original Message -- 

From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 

To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 

Sent: 11/1/2016 3:39:23 PM 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Comments on truck wrap, please? 







I'm after wireless links between say the RV building and sales building or from 
the main office to secondary office. Those jobs pay well and on time. WiFi 
doesn't pay squat - they all just want Dlinks or Linksystems in every room. 










Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 








On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 






Looks good. Wondering if there are other bullet points that may have more 
impact. 

- Business Networking 

- Private Data Networks 

- Home Wireless Network Experts 

- Commercial Data Connectivity 



Etc etc. 






From: Josh Luthman 

Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 1:13 PM 

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: [AFMUG] Comments on truck wrap, please? 




This is the proof I was sent. Just wanted to clear it by the cloud before 
getting it printed! 










Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] Comments on truck wrap, please?

2016-11-01 Thread Ken Hohhof

It does seem to pass the test that it doesn’t spell something bad when the 
doors are opened.  Like the Starbucks van that say Sucks when the sliding door 
is open.



 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 2:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Comments on truck wrap, please?

 

That's their new fleet.  CenturyLink had to set aside money for their Level 3 
purchase.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Lewis Bergman  > wrote:

No man, that picture of that Century Link Chuck posted.

 

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 2:45 PM Josh Luthman  > wrote:

2017 Transit 150 bro




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Lewis Bergman  > wrote:

Trying to guess what the average Joe would understand is pretty tricky. I would 
guess if you succeed you'll get 10 calls for every one you want. By the way, is 
that a 1980's van. WTH?

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 2:40 PM Adam Moffett  > wrote:

That might count as "Private Data Networks".  People might not know the term 
point to point.

 

 

-- Original Message --

From: "Josh Luthman"  >

To: "af@afmug.com  "  >

Sent: 11/1/2016 3:39:23 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Comments on truck wrap, please?

 

I'm after wireless links between say the RV building and sales building or from 
the main office to secondary office.  Those jobs pay well and on time.  WiFi 
doesn't pay squat - they all just want Dlinks or Linksystems in every room.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown  > wrote:

Looks good.  Wondering if there are other bullet points that may have more 
impact.

- Business Networking

- Private Data Networks

- Home Wireless Network Experts

- Commercial Data Connectivity

 

Etc etc.  

 

From: Josh Luthman 

Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 1:13 PM

To: af@afmug.com   

Subject: [AFMUG] Comments on truck wrap, please?

 

This is the proof I was sent.  Just wanted to clear it by the cloud before 
getting it printed! 

 




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] Comments on truck wrap, please?

2016-11-01 Thread Adam Moffett

FREE Internet!
($49.99/month transport fee applies)

-- Original Message --
From: "Lewis Bergman" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 11/1/2016 4:21:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Comments on truck wrap, please?

Try the word "Free". That seems to work for everything else.

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 3:14 PM Josh Luthman 
 wrote:
See I don't want to put dial up modems on the side.  That guy has a 
lightning bolt to match his electrical business.

I was aiming for simplicity like Mark did.  I'm not worried about the 
extra cost for the exact same reasoning you suggested.

What about something that says "Get Internet Now"?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 4:04 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
Hey... I can tell you from once running a fleet of 14 trucks... it's 
worth spending a little more and doing more than just some lettering. 
You don't have to do a full wrap, but you should be able to do more 
than your proof for only a few hundred more dollars... and you will 
get your money back from the "rolling billboard". Even if you just 
get 1 sign-up from a cool van design, that pays for the entire 
install job. :)

This type of mini-wrap, with installation, is probably around $1,200 
total (both sides and back).

I would suggest less wording, and a single tag line... "High Speed 
Internet" or something like that. People don't read all that text.

Travis

On 11/1/2016 1:13 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
This is the proof I was sent.  Just wanted to clear it by the cloud 
before getting it printed!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread Paul Stewart

I think you’re just cheap …. 

Just kidding ;)  

> On Nov 1, 2016, at 4:07 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
> 
> +1
> 
> The last pair of dress shoes I purchased cost me $80 and I almost didn't do 
> it... LOL
> 
> It's all about "value" for me spending over $3,000/year to have Intuit 
> host my QB files is just dumb. I can buy their 3-user package for $400 and 
> run that for 2-3 years before having to upgrade... saving me over $5,000 in 
> two years. :)
> 
> Travis
> 
> 
> On 11/1/2016 1:59 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>> You don't keep money by spending it.
>> 
>> 
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 3:56 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
>> > wrote:
>> arent you like a bajillionaire now? I figured you lost more than 300 bucks a 
>> month in your couch cushions
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Travis Johnson > > wrote:
>> It's actually very affordable, if you only have a single QB company. You 
>> have to pay the same price for each company... so if you have more than one 
>> or two companies, it's MUCH cheaper to run your own version on a dedicated 
>> server.
>> 
>> I'd love to move everything to their cloud service... but I have over 10 
>> companies that use QB... $30/month x 10 = TOO EXPENSIVE.
>> 
>> Travis
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/1/2016 12:00 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>>> Yes we moved quickbooks to the intuit cloud.  My business partner and our 
>>> accountant seem very happy with the transition.  I'm happy with it because 
>>> I don't have to deal with supporting it anymore lol.  
>>> 
>>> -Sean 
>>> 
>>> On Tuesday, November 1, 2016, Chuck McCown > wrote:
>>> I presume you mean you moved QB to the Intuit cloud.
>>> How much does that cost?
>>> They take care of backups etc I would assume?
>>> How difficult was it to make the transition?
>>> I presume your accountant can get right in without having to create and 
>>> transfer accountant copies of the DB?
>>>  
>>> From: Sean Heskett <>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:24 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com <>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP
>>>  
>>> we moved ours to their cloud and haven't looked back.  much less clunky 
>>> than running it on a local server etc.
>>>  
>>> YMMV
>>>  
>>> -Sean
>>>  
>>>  
>>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Lewis Bergman > 
>>> wrote:
>>> This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something worth doing 
>>> or maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows server 2012 and 
>>> try to figure out the while terminal services thing with licensing. I was 
>>> thinking it might just be easier since I only need one or two people to 
>>> remote in just to get some headless PC's and sit them in a corner somewhere.
>>>  
>>> Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?
>>>  
>>> The specs from QB are:
>>> Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit & 64-bit)
>>> Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2
>>> 2.4 GHz processor
>>> 4 GB of RAM
>>> 2.5 GB disk space recommended 
>>> 1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is supported
>>> 4x DVD-ROM drive
>>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
>> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>> 
>

Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M365

2016-11-01 Thread Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.

I am not trying to bypass. I am just looking for an economical way to 
provide service to a rural area. My site already is pretty saturated in 
the 5GHz spectrum and so I was thinking 365. Cambium does not sell a 365 
ePMP, so the only inexpensive option I saw was ubnt.

Gilbert

On 11/1/2016 9:05 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

Yes, unfortunately

On Nov 1, 2016 11:02 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
> wrote:

there are douchebag vendors that sell non US radios to people in
the US

On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 7:53 PM, Mathew Howard
> wrote:

Yes, the AF3x definitely will do the whole 50mhz, and the
Rockets definitely do not.

On Oct 31, 2016 7:10 PM, "Josh Reynolds" > wrote:

The AF3X does AFAIK, the M does not.

On Oct 31, 2016 6:10 PM, "Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr."
> wrote:

Does anyone know if the 3.65 product from UBNT
supports the full 3.65 band? 3.65-3.70... The data
sheet only shows the lower half.

Gilbert

-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see

your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of
the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread Travis Johnson


+1

The last pair of dress shoes I purchased cost me $80 and I almost didn't 
do it... LOL


It's all about "value" for me spending over $3,000/year to have 
Intuit host my QB files is just dumb. I can buy their 3-user package for 
$400 and run that for 2-3 years before having to upgrade... saving me 
over $5,000 in two years. :)


Travis


On 11/1/2016 1:59 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

You don't keep money by spending it.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 3:56 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
> wrote:


arent you like a bajillionaire now? I figured you lost more than
300 bucks a month in your couch cushions

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Travis Johnson > wrote:

It's actually very affordable, if you only have a single QB
company. You have to pay the same price for each company... so
if you have more than one or two companies, it's MUCH cheaper
to run your own version on a dedicated server.

I'd love to move everything to their cloud service... but I
have over 10 companies that use QB... $30/month x 10 = TOO
EXPENSIVE.

Travis


On 11/1/2016 12:00 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:

Yes we moved quickbooks to the intuit cloud.  My business
partner and our accountant seem very happy with the
transition.  I'm happy with it because I don't have to deal
with supporting it anymore lol.

-Sean

On Tuesday, November 1, 2016, Chuck McCown 
wrote:

I presume you mean you moved QB to the Intuit cloud.
How much does that cost?
They take care of backups etc I would assume?
How difficult was it to make the transition?
I presume your accountant can get right in without having
to create and transfer accountant copies of the DB?
*From:* Sean Heskett
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:24 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB
enterprise with RDP
we moved ours to their cloud and haven't looked back. 
much less clunky than running it on a local server etc.

YMMV
-Sean
On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Lewis Bergman
 wrote:

This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is
something worth doing or maybe worth avoiding. I
really don't want to get Windows server 2012 and try
to figure out the while terminal services thing with
licensing. I was thinking it might just be easier
since I only need one or two people to remote in just
to get some headless PC's and sit them in a corner
somewhere.
Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?
The specs from QB are:

  * Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or
Windows 10(32-bit & 64-bit)
  * Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2
  * 2.4 GHz processor
  * 4 GB of RAM
  * 2.5 GB disk space recommended
  * 1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended
monitor is supported
  * 4x DVD-ROM drive






-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see

your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of
the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

2016-11-01 Thread fiberrun

Lewis Bergman wrote:
> I rail against these types of projects not because they typically fail, 
> which they do,
  That's the second time you make that claim. Could you please back this up 
with some sources?
>>>Do you mind enlightening us with all the tales of success and glory?
>> Excellent deflection, again! That mean it's just something you made up then?
>I guess you ask for facts and toy are not deflecting? Nice.
 I find it amusing that you cannot answer a simple request to substantiate your 
claim.
 No matter. I'll indulge you, let's see if you can muster a reply this time. 

 Here an example of a successful municipal fiber network: Chattanooga's EPB 
Fiber. 

 Your turn. 


> Maybe you have difficulty understanding basic economics. 
  Nah, the problem is more that the rest of the world doesn't subscribe to your 
alternative theories on economics.
  A loan default is not a bailout. 
  A bailout is an act of giving financial assistance to a failing business or 
economy to save it from collapse. 
  If you default on a loan the lender takes your collateral and goes after you 
for the rest, you do *not* get more money and keep on trucking. 
  A bailout is where you socialize a loss. When a loan defaults it's a credit 
risk that actulizes. 

  Let me repeat that: a loan default is not a bailout. Those are two totally 
different things. 

>>  Moving isn't free, neither for the individual nor for society. Then there's 
>>the people that just can't move.
> Do you have facts to back that up?
  Are you kidding me? You need me to convince you that it costs money to rent a 
u-haul truck?

  As a major you should know without asking anybody that any civil 
infrastructure only has a certain carrying capacity and if that is exceeded, 
you have to build more. With real money. 

> And if you just can't move and you can't get Internet you obviously don't 
> need it.
  Are you really, really unable to think of even one case where a person cannot 
move, cannot get decent internet access, cannot find a job locally, but could 
hold down a remote job over the Internet?

>>  Marginalizing people isn't very beneficial to society either, not even if 
>>you just count dollars and cents.
> Can you quote Any factual basis for your opinion?
  This might come as a surprise to you, but unemployment actually costs money. 

> You are implying that the lack of Internet prevents unemployment in areas 
> that previously had none of insufficient speed?
  That double negative probably didn't work out as you intended. But to answer 
the question you most likely had, yes, lack of Internet access most definitely 
prevents being employed at a remote job. 

 
>>  According to the FCC, 1.4 million have no broadband available, not even 
>>satellite. 16 million people have 
>> satellite with 4M/1M or less available. There are not insignificant numbers.
> I think those are very insignificant.
  They might seem insignificant to you, as you are not affected. I'm pretty 
sure it does not seem insignificant to the actual persons themselves. Would you 
voluntarily give up your internet access?

  More than a million people is also not insignificant to society. 

> You seem to be assuming that those people both want and need more.
  Some do, some don't. What's the harm in working to give it to those that want 
it, need it and will pay for it?
 
> And it is doubtful they will suddenly make $250k a year just because their 
> access improves.
  They don't need to and you are being silly for even setting the bar that 
high. 
  Why wouldn't a lesser amount be enough? What if they didn't make a cent more, 
but they could save money?

 
> World peace. 
  :)

  Peace out, man. 

Jared

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread Sterling Jacobson

Good point.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 1:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

It's actually very affordable, if you only have a single QB company. You have 
to pay the same price for each company... so if you have more than one or two 
companies, it's MUCH cheaper to run your own version on a dedicated server.

I'd love to move everything to their cloud service... but I have over 10 
companies that use QB... $30/month x 10 = TOO EXPENSIVE.

Travis

On 11/1/2016 12:00 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
Yes we moved quickbooks to the intuit cloud.  My business partner and our 
accountant seem very happy with the transition.  I'm happy with it because I 
don't have to deal with supporting it anymore lol.

-Sean

On Tuesday, November 1, 2016, Chuck McCown 
> wrote:
I presume you mean you moved QB to the Intuit cloud.
How much does that cost?
They take care of backups etc I would assume?
How difficult was it to make the transition?
I presume your accountant can get right in without having to create and 
transfer accountant copies of the DB?

From: Sean Heskett
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:24 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

we moved ours to their cloud and haven't looked back.  much less clunky than 
running it on a local server etc.

YMMV

-Sean

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something worth doing or 
maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows server 2012 and try to 
figure out the while terminal services thing with licensing. I was thinking it 
might just be easier since I only need one or two people to remote in just to 
get some headless PC's and sit them in a corner somewhere.

Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?

The specs from QB are:

  *   Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit & 64-bit)
  *   Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2
  *   2.4 GHz processor
  *   4 GB of RAM
  *   2.5 GB disk space recommended
  *   1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is supported
  *   4x DVD-ROM drive

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread Josh Luthman

You don't keep money by spending it.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 3:56 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> arent you like a bajillionaire now? I figured you lost more than 300 bucks
> a month in your couch cushions
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>
>> It's actually very affordable, if you only have a single QB company. You
>> have to pay the same price for each company... so if you have more than one
>> or two companies, it's MUCH cheaper to run your own version on a dedicated
>> server.
>>
>> I'd love to move everything to their cloud service... but I have over 10
>> companies that use QB... $30/month x 10 = TOO EXPENSIVE.
>>
>> Travis
>>
>>
>> On 11/1/2016 12:00 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>>
>> Yes we moved quickbooks to the intuit cloud.  My business partner and our
>> accountant seem very happy with the transition.  I'm happy with it because
>> I don't have to deal with supporting it anymore lol.
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 1, 2016, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> I presume you mean you moved QB to the Intuit cloud.
>>> How much does that cost?
>>> They take care of backups etc I would assume?
>>> How difficult was it to make the transition?
>>> I presume your accountant can get right in without having to create and
>>> transfer accountant copies of the DB?
>>>
>>> *From:* Sean Heskett
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:24 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP
>>>
>>> we moved ours to their cloud and haven't looked back.  much less clunky
>>> than running it on a local server etc.
>>>
>>> YMMV
>>>
>>> -Sean
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Lewis Bergman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something worth
 doing or maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows server
 2012 and try to figure out the while terminal services thing with
 licensing. I was thinking it might just be easier since I only need one or
 two people to remote in just to get some headless PC's and sit them in a
 corner somewhere.

 Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?

 The specs from QB are:

- Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit &
64-bit)
- Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2
- 2.4 GHz processor
- 4 GB of RAM
- 2.5 GB disk space recommended
- 1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is
supported
- 4x DVD-ROM drive


>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Comments on truck wrap, please?

2016-11-01 Thread Josh Luthman

That's their new fleet.  CenturyLink had to set aside money for their Level
3 purchase.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Lewis Bergman 
wrote:

> No man, that picture of that Century Link Chuck posted.
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 2:45 PM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> 2017 Transit 150 bro
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Lewis Bergman 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Trying to guess what the average Joe would understand is pretty tricky. I
>> would guess if you succeed you'll get 10 calls for every one you want. By
>> the way, is that a 1980's van. WTH?
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 2:40 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>>
>> That might count as "Private Data Networks".  People might not know the
>> term point to point.
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Josh Luthman" 
>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Sent: 11/1/2016 3:39:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Comments on truck wrap, please?
>>
>>
>> I'm after wireless links between say the RV building and sales building
>> or from the main office to secondary office.  Those jobs pay well and on
>> time.  WiFi doesn't pay squat - they all just want Dlinks or Linksystems in
>> every room.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>> Looks good.  Wondering if there are other bullet points that may have
>> more impact.
>> - Business Networking
>> - Private Data Networks
>> - Home Wireless Network Experts
>> - Commercial Data Connectivity
>>
>> Etc etc.
>>
>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2016 1:13 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Comments on truck wrap, please?
>>
>> This is the proof I was sent.  Just wanted to clear it by the cloud
>> before getting it printed!
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm

arent you like a bajillionaire now? I figured you lost more than 300 bucks
a month in your couch cushions

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:

> It's actually very affordable, if you only have a single QB company. You
> have to pay the same price for each company... so if you have more than one
> or two companies, it's MUCH cheaper to run your own version on a dedicated
> server.
>
> I'd love to move everything to their cloud service... but I have over 10
> companies that use QB... $30/month x 10 = TOO EXPENSIVE.
>
> Travis
>
>
> On 11/1/2016 12:00 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>
> Yes we moved quickbooks to the intuit cloud.  My business partner and our
> accountant seem very happy with the transition.  I'm happy with it because
> I don't have to deal with supporting it anymore lol.
>
> -Sean
>
> On Tuesday, November 1, 2016, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> I presume you mean you moved QB to the Intuit cloud.
>> How much does that cost?
>> They take care of backups etc I would assume?
>> How difficult was it to make the transition?
>> I presume your accountant can get right in without having to create and
>> transfer accountant copies of the DB?
>>
>> *From:* Sean Heskett
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:24 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP
>>
>> we moved ours to their cloud and haven't looked back.  much less clunky
>> than running it on a local server etc.
>>
>> YMMV
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Lewis Bergman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something worth
>>> doing or maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows server
>>> 2012 and try to figure out the while terminal services thing with
>>> licensing. I was thinking it might just be easier since I only need one or
>>> two people to remote in just to get some headless PC's and sit them in a
>>> corner somewhere.
>>>
>>> Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?
>>>
>>> The specs from QB are:
>>>
>>>- Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit &
>>>64-bit)
>>>- Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2
>>>- 2.4 GHz processor
>>>- 4 GB of RAM
>>>- 2.5 GB disk space recommended
>>>- 1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is
>>>supported
>>>- 4x DVD-ROM drive
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread Travis Johnson

It's actually very affordable, if you only have a single QB company. You 
have to pay the same price for each company... so if you have more than 
one or two companies, it's MUCH cheaper to run your own version on a 
dedicated server.


I'd love to move everything to their cloud service... but I have over 10 
companies that use QB... $30/month x 10 = TOO EXPENSIVE.


Travis


On 11/1/2016 12:00 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
Yes we moved quickbooks to the intuit cloud.  My business partner and 
our accountant seem very happy with the transition.  I'm happy with it 
because I don't have to deal with supporting it anymore lol.


-Sean

On Tuesday, November 1, 2016, Chuck McCown > wrote:


I presume you mean you moved QB to the Intuit cloud.
How much does that cost?
They take care of backups etc I would assume?
How difficult was it to make the transition?
I presume your accountant can get right in without having to
create and transfer accountant copies of the DB?
*From:* Sean Heskett
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:24 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise
with RDP
we moved ours to their cloud and haven't looked back.  much less
clunky than running it on a local server etc.
YMMV
-Sean
On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Lewis Bergman
 wrote:

This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something
worth doing or maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to
get Windows server 2012 and try to figure out the while
terminal services thing with licensing. I was thinking it
might just be easier since I only need one or two people to
remote in just to get some headless PC's and sit them in a
corner somewhere.
Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?
The specs from QB are:

  * Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows
10(32-bit & 64-bit)
  * Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2
  * 2.4 GHz processor
  * 4 GB of RAM
  * 2.5 GB disk space recommended
  * 1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is
supported
  * 4x DVD-ROM drive

Re: [AFMUG] Comments on truck wrap, please?

2016-11-01 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm

"We know more than your nephew does about computers" Thats about the extent
of what the average joe will understand

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Lewis Bergman 
wrote:

> Trying to guess what the average Joe would understand is pretty tricky. I
> would guess if you succeed you'll get 10 calls for every one you want. By
> the way, is that a 1980's van. WTH?
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 2:40 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> That might count as "Private Data Networks".  People might not know the
>> term point to point.
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Josh Luthman" 
>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Sent: 11/1/2016 3:39:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Comments on truck wrap, please?
>>
>>
>> I'm after wireless links between say the RV building and sales building
>> or from the main office to secondary office.  Those jobs pay well and on
>> time.  WiFi doesn't pay squat - they all just want Dlinks or Linksystems in
>> every room.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>> Looks good.  Wondering if there are other bullet points that may have
>> more impact.
>> - Business Networking
>> - Private Data Networks
>> - Home Wireless Network Experts
>> - Commercial Data Connectivity
>>
>> Etc etc.
>>
>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2016 1:13 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Comments on truck wrap, please?
>>
>> This is the proof I was sent.  Just wanted to clear it by the cloud
>> before getting it printed!
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

2016-11-01 Thread SmarterBroadband

Sorry typo

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wright
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 12:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

Arent the beams 7 degrees?

Chris Wright

Network Administrator

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 11:58 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

That is 100% why I want to use it.  We have an overloaded AP and no new
frequency.  A 3x performance boost will solve the problem.  I also hope the
17 degree beams will reduce interference seen by the AP.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

The data that Matt showed us at HQ a few weeks ago where an operator (not in
the US) with over 100 SMs! on a single 450 sector proved that a performance
boost of 3-3.5x is possible simply by swapping to a 450m sector. And that's
still using only that single 20MHz channel in 90 degrees. They created this
thing for a reason. And that right there is it. Nuckin futs.

On 11/1/2016 9:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Rise Broadband

?

ï¿½

From: Matt Mangriotis 

Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:08 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

ï¿½

I will say that we have a [very large] customer that will remain nameless,
which has ~1100 active customers across more than 12 sectors of 450m.ï¿½
They are very pleased with the performance.

ï¿½

There are several others that are putting up their first sectors now as
well.ï¿½ If you run into issues, we are escalating support cases to our team
that has a lot of experience in deploying this model.

ï¿½

Matt

ï¿½

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 8:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

ï¿½

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphonse_and_Gaston#/media/File:Alphonsegaston
.jpg

ï¿½

ï¿½

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 7:39 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

ï¿½

Our first 450m should arrive this week.ï¿½ We plan to replace an existing
450 AP that has 66 customers for our first deployment. 

ï¿½

However, I do not want to do this until I have heard that there are some
installed and working.

ï¿½

Does anyone have 450m up and running.ï¿½ Would you please share your
experiences and results.

ï¿½

Thanks

ï¿½

Adam

ï¿½

ï¿½

Re: [AFMUG] Comments on truck wrap, please?

2016-11-01 Thread Lewis Bergman

No man, that picture of that Century Link Chuck posted.

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 2:45 PM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> 2017 Transit 150 bro
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
> Trying to guess what the average Joe would understand is pretty tricky. I
> would guess if you succeed you'll get 10 calls for every one you want. By
> the way, is that a 1980's van. WTH?
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 2:40 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
> That might count as "Private Data Networks".  People might not know the
> term point to point.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Josh Luthman" 
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Sent: 11/1/2016 3:39:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Comments on truck wrap, please?
>
>
> I'm after wireless links between say the RV building and sales building or
> from the main office to secondary office.  Those jobs pay well and on
> time.  WiFi doesn't pay squat - they all just want Dlinks or Linksystems in
> every room.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
> Looks good.  Wondering if there are other bullet points that may have more
> impact.
> - Business Networking
> - Private Data Networks
> - Home Wireless Network Experts
> - Commercial Data Connectivity
>
> Etc etc.
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2016 1:13 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Comments on truck wrap, please?
>
> This is the proof I was sent.  Just wanted to clear it by the cloud before
> getting it printed!
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Comments on truck wrap, please?

2016-11-01 Thread Josh Luthman

2017 Transit 150 bro


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Lewis Bergman 
wrote:

> Trying to guess what the average Joe would understand is pretty tricky. I
> would guess if you succeed you'll get 10 calls for every one you want. By
> the way, is that a 1980's van. WTH?
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 2:40 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> That might count as "Private Data Networks".  People might not know the
>> term point to point.
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Josh Luthman" 
>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Sent: 11/1/2016 3:39:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Comments on truck wrap, please?
>>
>>
>> I'm after wireless links between say the RV building and sales building
>> or from the main office to secondary office.  Those jobs pay well and on
>> time.  WiFi doesn't pay squat - they all just want Dlinks or Linksystems in
>> every room.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>> Looks good.  Wondering if there are other bullet points that may have
>> more impact.
>> - Business Networking
>> - Private Data Networks
>> - Home Wireless Network Experts
>> - Commercial Data Connectivity
>>
>> Etc etc.
>>
>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2016 1:13 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Comments on truck wrap, please?
>>
>> This is the proof I was sent.  Just wanted to clear it by the cloud
>> before getting it printed!
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread Josh Reynolds

We went with a cloud hosted option, through a third party. We realized
having another company print and mail invoices each month was actually
cheaper than for us to do it in house, so we went that route.

On Nov 1, 2016 2:15 PM, "James Howard"  wrote:

> We use QB for financials and payroll.  Went to their cloud based a couple
> of years ago and had major issues with payroll printing locally.  I don’t
> recall the details but the guy that did it said it was a major headache and
> mess getting it back in house.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2016 2:11 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP
>
>
>
> I wonder if this is reversible in the event you find you don’t like it?
>
> Also, what is the cost?
>
>
>
> *From:* Sean Heskett
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2016 12:00 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP
>
>
>
> Yes we moved quickbooks to the intuit cloud.  My business partner and our
> accountant seem very happy with the transition.  I'm happy with it because
> I don't have to deal with supporting it anymore lol.
>
>
>
> -Sean
>
> On Tuesday, November 1, 2016, Chuck McCown  ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote:
>
> I presume you mean you moved QB to the Intuit cloud.
>
> How much does that cost?
>
> They take care of backups etc I would assume?
>
> How difficult was it to make the transition?
>
> I presume your accountant can get right in without having to create and
> transfer accountant copies of the DB?
>
>
>
> *From:* Sean Heskett
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:24 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP
>
>
>
> we moved ours to their cloud and haven't looked back.  much less clunky
> than running it on a local server etc.
>
>
>
> YMMV
>
>
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
> This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something worth doing
> or maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows server 2012 and
> try to figure out the while terminal services thing with licensing. I was
> thinking it might just be easier since I only need one or two people to
> remote in just to get some headless PC's and sit them in a corner
> somewhere.
>
>
>
> Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?
>
>
>
> The specs from QB are:
>
> ·Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit &
> 64-bit)
>
> ·Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2
>
> ·2.4 GHz processor
>
> ·4 GB of RAM
>
> ·2.5 GB disk space recommended
>
> ·1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is
> supported
>
> ·4x DVD-ROM drive
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

2016-11-01 Thread Chris Wright

Aren't the beams 7 degrees?

Chris Wright
Network Administrator

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 11:58 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

That is 100% why I want to use it.  We have an overloaded AP and no new 
frequency.  A 3x performance boost will solve the problem.  I also hope the 17 
degree beams will reduce interference seen by the AP.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

The data that Matt showed us at HQ a few weeks ago where an operator (not in 
the US) with over 100 SMs! on a single 450 sector proved that a performance 
boost of 3-3.5x is possible simply by swapping to a 450m sector. And that's 
still using only that single 20MHz channel in 90 degrees. They created this 
thing for a reason. And that right there is it. Nuckin futs.
On 11/1/2016 9:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Rise Broadband
?
ï¿½
From: Matt Mangriotis
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:08 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
ï¿½
I will say that we have a [very large] customer that will remain nameless, 
which has ~1100 active customers across more than 12 sectors of 450m.ï¿½ They 
are very pleased with the performance.
ï¿½
There are several others that are putting up their first sectors now as 
well.ï¿½ If you run into issues, we are escalating support cases to our team 
that has a lot of experience in deploying this model.
ï¿½
Matt
ï¿½
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 8:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
ï¿½
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphonse_and_Gaston#/media/File:Alphonsegaston.jpg
ï¿½
ï¿½
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 7:39 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
ï¿½
Our first 450m should arrive this week.ï¿½ We plan to replace an existing 450 
AP that has 66 customers for our first deployment.
ï¿½
However, I do not want to do this until I have heard that there are some 
installed and working.
ï¿½
Does anyone have 450m up and running.ï¿½ Would you please share your 
experiences and results.
ï¿½
Thanks
ï¿½
Adam
ï¿½
ï¿½

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread Chuck McCown

I used to do my own payroll with QB but now I use MINT.  Love it.  They do 
everything and they don’t cost much either.  
W2s, 1099s, time clock stuff , tax deposits– you name it.  Only thing you have 
to do is approve timesheets.  
And make sure there is enough money in your account to cover payroll like 
that is ever a concern

From: James Howard 
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 1:15 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

We use QB for financials and payroll.  Went to their cloud based a couple of 
years ago and had major issues with payroll printing locally.  I don’t recall 
the details but the guy that did it said it was a major headache and mess 
getting it back in house.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 2:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

I wonder if this is reversible in the event you find you don’t like it?

Also, what is the cost?

From: Sean Heskett 

Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 12:00 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

Yes we moved quickbooks to the intuit cloud.  My business partner and our 
accountant seem very happy with the transition.  I'm happy with it because I 
don't have to deal with supporting it anymore lol.   

-Sean 

On Tuesday, November 1, 2016, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:

I presume you mean you moved QB to the Intuit cloud.

How much does that cost?

They take care of backups etc I would assume?

How difficult was it to make the transition?

I presume your accountant can get right in without having to create and 
transfer accountant copies of the DB?

From: Sean Heskett 

Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:24 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

we moved ours to their cloud and haven't looked back.  much less clunky than 
running it on a local server etc. 

YMMV

-Sean

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Lewis Bergman  wrote:

This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something worth doing or 
maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows server 2012 and try to 
figure out the while terminal services thing with licensing. I was thinking it 
might just be easier since I only need one or two people to remote in just to 
get some headless PC's and sit them in a corner somewhere. 

Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?

The specs from QB are:

·Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit & 64-bit) 

·Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2 

·2.4 GHz processor 

·4 GB of RAM 

·2.5 GB disk space recommended  

·1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is supported 

·4x DVD-ROM drive

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Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread James Howard

We use QB for financials and payroll.  Went to their cloud based a couple of 
years ago and had major issues with payroll printing locally.  I don’t recall 
the details but the guy that did it said it was a major headache and mess 
getting it back in house.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 2:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

I wonder if this is reversible in the event you find you don’t like it?
Also, what is the cost?

From: Sean Heskett
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 12:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

Yes we moved quickbooks to the intuit cloud.  My business partner and our 
accountant seem very happy with the transition.  I'm happy with it because I 
don't have to deal with supporting it anymore lol.

-Sean

On Tuesday, November 1, 2016, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:
I presume you mean you moved QB to the Intuit cloud.
How much does that cost?
They take care of backups etc I would assume?
How difficult was it to make the transition?
I presume your accountant can get right in without having to create and 
transfer accountant copies of the DB?

From: Sean Heskett
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:24 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

we moved ours to their cloud and haven't looked back.  much less clunky than 
running it on a local server etc.

YMMV

-Sean

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something worth doing or 
maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows server 2012 and try to 
figure out the while terminal services thing with licensing. I was thinking it 
might just be easier since I only need one or two people to remote in just to 
get some headless PC's and sit them in a corner somewhere.

Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?

The specs from QB are:
·Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit & 64-bit)
·Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2
·2.4 GHz processor
·4 GB of RAM
·2.5 GB disk space recommended
·1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is supported
·4x DVD-ROM drive

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Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

2016-11-01 Thread SmarterBroadband

Being lithium do the Winston batteries need a special charger?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Charles Regan
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 6:35 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

We are using Meanwell TN3000, pure sine wave 3000W inverter charger. It has a 
solar plug too. Cost is 950$

Small sites has the 1500W version the the inverter and Winston 24v 60Ah lithium 
battery.

On Oct 31, 2016 10:17 PM, "Adam Moffett"  wrote:

60% DOD is pretty conservative.  Do you lose power a lot?  Losing power at this 
site is somewhat of a hypothetical event.  A Mack truck on the highway wiped 
out 5 poles and we ran on propane for a whole day.  The previous outage was 
years before, and I don't expect another one for a few more years.  

...and ideally I'm only on battery for a minute or two while the genny gets 
started.  

This was my thinking as well.. With my AGM setups I’m not comfortable pushing 
beyond 60% DOD.. I’m also paying a lot for 10-year rated large Ah AGM batteries 
these days.

Peter Kranz
  www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100  
Mobile: 510-207-
  pkr...@unwiredltd.com

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:33 PM
To: af   
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

Figuring those prices, you're not going to end up too far off from the price of 
the Tesla for the same run time. Tripling the batteries will put you up to 
somewhere around $4500, for basically the same kWh, but if you factor in being 
able to 100% discharge the Tesla setup, you're going to need to add a bunch 
more battery.

I wonder how the life expectancy compares...

On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

That's the same link I sent earlier, bro.

$3049 is list priceyou'll pay closer to $2500 - $2600.

On 10/31/2016 3:47 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

This looks like it:

http://www.aimscorp.net/12000-Watt-Inverter-Charger-48-volt-120-240vac.html

ï¿½

$3409/12000=28.4 cents per watt.ï¿½ 

Not too bad considering there is a battery charger in there.

ï¿½

From: Adam Moffett 

Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 1:01 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

ï¿½

http://www.aimscorp.net/12000-Watt-Inverter-Charger-48-volt-120-240vac.html

This has a street price of $2500.ï¿½ The four SLA batteries were (I think) $160 
each.ï¿½ The 3/0 battery cable was not free, but I don't remember what it 
cost.ï¿½ This is only 4800 Wh, but it's trivial to add more/bigger 
batteries.ï¿½ 

This doesn't have any built in network monitoring though.does the Powerwall?

ï¿½

On 10/31/2016 2:14 PM, Peter Kranz wrote:

The new tesla powerwall 2 appears to be an interesting UPS option now that it 
has a build in inverter/charger. 14kWh for $5500, so would run most of my sites 
for about 24 hours. When I backed out the costs for 14kWh of our standard AGM 
cells and inverter, I think this price is quite reasonable.

ï¿½

https://www.tesla.com/powerwall

ï¿½

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com  
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100  
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com

ï¿½

Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

2016-11-01 Thread SmarterBroadband

Or 
http://tyconsystems.com/index.php/products/tycon-power/tpdin-monitor-web/751-tpdin-monitor-web2

At half the price.

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Charles Regan
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:14 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

This?
https://flexscada.com/flexs-q4/

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread Chuck McCown

I wonder if this is reversible in the event you find you don’t like it?
Also, what is the cost?

From: Sean Heskett 
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 12:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

Yes we moved quickbooks to the intuit cloud.  My business partner and our 
accountant seem very happy with the transition.  I'm happy with it because I 
don't have to deal with supporting it anymore lol.   

-Sean 

On Tuesday, November 1, 2016, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:

  I presume you mean you moved QB to the Intuit cloud.
  How much does that cost?
  They take care of backups etc I would assume?
  How difficult was it to make the transition?
  I presume your accountant can get right in without having to create and 
transfer accountant copies of the DB?

  From: Sean Heskett 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:24 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

  we moved ours to their cloud and haven't looked back.  much less clunky than 
running it on a local server etc. 

  YMMV

  -Sean

  On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Lewis Bergman  wrote:

This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something worth doing 
or maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows server 2012 and try 
to figure out the while terminal services thing with licensing. I was thinking 
it might just be easier since I only need one or two people to remote in just 
to get some headless PC's and sit them in a corner somewhere. 

Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?

The specs from QB are:
  a.. Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit & 
64-bit) 
  b.. Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2 
  c.. 2.4 GHz processor 
  d.. 4 GB of RAM 
  e.. 2.5 GB disk space recommended  
  f.. 1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is supported 
  g.. 4x DVD-ROM drive

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

2016-11-01 Thread SmarterBroadband

Exactly. 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 6:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphonse_and_Gaston#/media/File:Alphonsegaston
.jpg

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 7:39 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

Our first 450m should arrive this week.  We plan to replace an existing 450
AP that has 66 customers for our first deployment. 

However, I do not want to do this until I have heard that there are some
installed and working.

Does anyone have 450m up and running.  Would you please share your
experiences and results.

Thanks

Adam

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

2016-11-01 Thread Ken Hohhof

The other thing I worry about is 14.1.2 was so stable, but here we go with 
15.x.  Can someone else go first?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Ray
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 1:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

Now get the SM costs down so it's worthwhile to buy this thing

Sent while mobile

On Nov 1, 2016, at 8:30 AM, George Skorup  > wrote:

The data that Matt showed us at HQ a few weeks ago where an operator (not in 
the US) with over 100 SMs! on a single 450 sector proved that a performance 
boost of 3-3.5x is possible simply by swapping to a 450m sector. And that's 
still using only that single 20MHz channel in 90 degrees. They created this 
thing for a reason. And that right there is it. Nuckin futs.

On 11/1/2016 9:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Rise Broadband

?

ï¿½

From: Matt Mangriotis 

Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:08 AM

To: af@afmug.com   

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

ï¿½

I will say that we have a [very large] customer that will remain nameless, 
which has ~1100 active customers across more than 12 sectors of 450m.ï¿½ They 
are very pleased with the performance.

ï¿½

There are several others that are putting up their first sectors now as 
well.ï¿½ If you run into issues, we are escalating support cases to our team 
that has a lot of experience in deploying this model.

ï¿½

Matt

ï¿½

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 8:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

ï¿½

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphonse_and_Gaston#/media/File:Alphonsegaston.jpg

ï¿½

ï¿½

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 7:39 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

ï¿½

Our first 450m should arrive this week.ï¿½ We plan to replace an existing 450 
AP that has 66 customers for our first deployment. 

ï¿½

However, I do not want to do this until I have heard that there are some 
installed and working.

ï¿½

Does anyone have 450m up and running.ï¿½ Would you please share your 
experiences and results.

ï¿½

Thanks

ï¿½

Adam

ï¿½

ï¿½

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

2016-11-01 Thread Ryan Ray

Now get the SM costs down so it's worthwhile to buy this thing


Sent while mobile


> On Nov 1, 2016, at 8:30 AM, George Skorup  wrote:
> 
> The data that Matt showed us at HQ a few weeks ago where an operator (not in 
> the US) with over 100 SMs! on a single 450 sector proved that a performance 
> boost of 3-3.5x is possible simply by swapping to a 450m sector. And that's 
> still using only that single 20MHz channel in 90 degrees. They created this 
> thing for a reason. And that right there is it. Nuckin futs.
> 
>> On 11/1/2016 9:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> Rise Broadband
>> ?
>> ï¿½
>> From: Matt Mangriotis
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:08 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
>> ï¿½
>> I will say that we have a [very large] customer that will remain nameless, 
>> which has ~1100 active customers across more than 12 sectors of 450m.ï¿½ 
>> They are very pleased with the performance.
>> ï¿½
>> There are several others that are putting up their first sectors now as 
>> well.ï¿½ If you run into issues, we are escalating support cases to our team 
>> that has a lot of experience in deploying this model.
>> ï¿½
>> Matt
>> ï¿½
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
>> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 8:34 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
>> ï¿½
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphonse_and_Gaston#/media/File:Alphonsegaston.jpg
>> ï¿½
>> ï¿½
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
>> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 7:39 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
>> ï¿½
>> Our first 450m should arrive this week.ï¿½ We plan to replace an existing 
>> 450 AP that has 66 customers for our first deployment.
>> ï¿½
>> However, I do not want to do this until I have heard that there are some 
>> installed and working.
>> ï¿½
>> Does anyone have 450m up and running.ï¿½ Would you please share your 
>> experiences and results.
>> ï¿½
>> Thanks
>> ï¿½
>> Adam
>> ï¿½
>> ï¿½
>

[AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread Sean Heskett

Yes we moved quickbooks to the intuit cloud.  My business partner and our
accountant seem very happy with the transition.  I'm happy with it because
I don't have to deal with supporting it anymore lol.

-Sean

On Tuesday, November 1, 2016, Chuck McCown > wrote:

> I presume you mean you moved QB to the Intuit cloud.
> How much does that cost?
> They take care of backups etc I would assume?
> How difficult was it to make the transition?
> I presume your accountant can get right in without having to create and
> transfer accountant copies of the DB?
>
> *From:* Sean Heskett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:24 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP
>
> we moved ours to their cloud and haven't looked back.  much less clunky
> than running it on a local server etc.
>
> YMMV
>
> -Sean
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
>> This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something worth
>> doing or maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows server
>> 2012 and try to figure out the while terminal services thing with
>> licensing. I was thinking it might just be easier since I only need one or
>> two people to remote in just to get some headless PC's and sit them in a
>> corner somewhere.
>>
>> Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?
>>
>> The specs from QB are:
>>
>>- Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit &
>>64-bit)
>>- Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2
>>- 2.4 GHz processor
>>- 4 GB of RAM
>>- 2.5 GB disk space recommended
>>- 1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is supported
>>- 4x DVD-ROM drive
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread Sean Heskett

Yes we moved quickbooks to the intuit cloud.  My business partner and our
accountant seem very happy with the transition.  I'm happy with it because
I don't have to deal with supporting it anymore lol.

-Sean

On Tuesday, November 1, 2016, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> I presume you mean you moved QB to the Intuit cloud.
> How much does that cost?
> They take care of backups etc I would assume?
> How difficult was it to make the transition?
> I presume your accountant can get right in without having to create and
> transfer accountant copies of the DB?
>
> *From:* Sean Heskett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:24 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP
>
> we moved ours to their cloud and haven't looked back.  much less clunky
> than running it on a local server etc.
>
> YMMV
>
> -Sean
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
>> This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something worth
>> doing or maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows server
>> 2012 and try to figure out the while terminal services thing with
>> licensing. I was thinking it might just be easier since I only need one or
>> two people to remote in just to get some headless PC's and sit them in a
>> corner somewhere.
>>
>> Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?
>>
>> The specs from QB are:
>>
>>- Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit &
>>64-bit)
>>- Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2
>>- 2.4 GHz processor
>>- 4 GB of RAM
>>- 2.5 GB disk space recommended
>>- 1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is supported
>>- 4x DVD-ROM drive
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread Paul Stewart

I’m starting to look at this for a company I’ve involved with … to date it’s 
been one guy who carries it on his notebook - would like to move it to cloud 
where a few people (including accountant) can get ready access …. 

I read a document somewhere that explains cloud vs local and it looked ok for 
my needs but haven’t actually tried it yet

Also looking at Freshbooks for this too

Thanks,
Paul


> On Nov 1, 2016, at 1:14 PM, Sterling Jacobson  wrote:
> 
> I don’t use QB for customer tracking, just for financials and taxes.
>  
> I wonder if that would make any difference?
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On 
> Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
> Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 11:10 AM
> To: af@afmug.com 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP
>  
> Al of our QB customers who went to the cloud came back to on premise. The 
> cloud solution is restrictive, which is good. But it seems like everybody 
> wants to have their own flavor of QB
>  
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Sterling Jacobson  > wrote:
> Yeah, what was that like?
>  
> I’ve been running QB on a VM and giving my accountant access to the VM.
>  
> Wouldn’t mind paying a bit a month for a consistently updated cloud access.
> If I could make sure I had a backup I could use offline in case of a 
> problem/emergency.
>  
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On 
> Behalf Of Chuck McCown
> Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 10:57 AM
> 
> To: af@afmug.com 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP
>  
> I presume you mean you moved QB to the Intuit cloud.
> How much does that cost?
> They take care of backups etc I would assume?
> How difficult was it to make the transition?
> I presume your accountant can get right in without having to create and 
> transfer accountant copies of the DB?
>  
> From: Sean Heskett
> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:24 AM
> To: af@afmug.com 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP
>  
> we moved ours to their cloud and haven't looked back.  much less clunky than 
> running it on a local server etc.
>  
> YMMV
>  
> -Sean
>  
>  
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Lewis Bergman  > wrote:
> This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something worth doing or 
> maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows server 2012 and try 
> to figure out the while terminal services thing with licensing. I was 
> thinking it might just be easier since I only need one or two people to 
> remote in just to get some headless PC's and sit them in a corner somewhere.
>  
> Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?
>  
> The specs from QB are:
> · Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit & 
> 64-bit)
> · Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2
> · 2.4 GHz processor
> · 4 GB of RAM
> · 2.5 GB disk space recommended 
> · 1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is supported
> · 4x DVD-ROM drive
>  
> 
> 
>  
> -- 
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread Sterling Jacobson

I don’t use QB for customer tracking, just for financials and taxes.

I wonder if that would make any difference?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 11:10 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

Al of our QB customers who went to the cloud came back to on premise. The cloud 
solution is restrictive, which is good. But it seems like everybody wants to 
have their own flavor of QB

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:
Yeah, what was that like?

I’ve been running QB on a VM and giving my accountant access to the VM.

Wouldn’t mind paying a bit a month for a consistently updated cloud access.
If I could make sure I had a backup I could use offline in case of a 
problem/emergency.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 10:57 AM

To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

I presume you mean you moved QB to the Intuit cloud.
How much does that cost?
They take care of backups etc I would assume?
How difficult was it to make the transition?
I presume your accountant can get right in without having to create and 
transfer accountant copies of the DB?

From: Sean Heskett
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:24 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

we moved ours to their cloud and haven't looked back.  much less clunky than 
running it on a local server etc.

YMMV

-Sean

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something worth doing or 
maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows server 2012 and try to 
figure out the while terminal services thing with licensing. I was thinking it 
might just be easier since I only need one or two people to remote in just to 
get some headless PC's and sit them in a corner somewhere.

Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?

The specs from QB are:
• Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit & 64-bit)
• Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2
• 2.4 GHz processor
• 4 GB of RAM
• 2.5 GB disk space recommended
• 1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is supported
• 4x DVD-ROM drive

--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

2016-11-01 Thread Charles Regan

This?
https://flexscada.com/flexs-q4/

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm

Al of our QB customers who went to the cloud came back to on premise. The
cloud solution is restrictive, which is good. But it seems like everybody
wants to have their own flavor of QB

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
wrote:

> Yeah, what was that like?
>
>
>
> I’ve been running QB on a VM and giving my accountant access to the VM.
>
>
>
> Wouldn’t mind paying a bit a month for a consistently updated cloud access.
>
> If I could make sure I had a backup I could use offline in case of a
> problem/emergency.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 1, 2016 10:57 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP
>
>
>
> I presume you mean you moved QB to the Intuit cloud.
>
> How much does that cost?
>
> They take care of backups etc I would assume?
>
> How difficult was it to make the transition?
>
> I presume your accountant can get right in without having to create and
> transfer accountant copies of the DB?
>
>
>
> *From:* Sean Heskett
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:24 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP
>
>
>
> we moved ours to their cloud and haven't looked back.  much less clunky
> than running it on a local server etc.
>
>
>
> YMMV
>
>
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
> This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something worth doing
> or maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows server 2012 and
> try to figure out the while terminal services thing with licensing. I was
> thinking it might just be easier since I only need one or two people to
> remote in just to get some headless PC's and sit them in a corner
> somewhere.
>
>
>
> Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?
>
>
>
> The specs from QB are:
>
> · Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit &
> 64-bit)
>
> · Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2
>
> · 2.4 GHz processor
>
> · 4 GB of RAM
>
> · 2.5 GB disk space recommended
>
> · 1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is
> supported
>
> · 4x DVD-ROM drive
>
>
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

2016-11-01 Thread Peter Kranz

>> We are using Meanwell TN3000, pure sine wave 3000W inverter charger. It has 
>> a solar plug too. Cost is 950$

Cheap, but lacking adequate SNMP monitoring, which is a must-have for us.

 

Peter Kranz
  www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
  pkr...@unwiredltd.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread Sterling Jacobson

Yeah, what was that like?

I’ve been running QB on a VM and giving my accountant access to the VM.

Wouldn’t mind paying a bit a month for a consistently updated cloud access.
If I could make sure I had a backup I could use offline in case of a 
problem/emergency.


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 10:57 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

I presume you mean you moved QB to the Intuit cloud.
How much does that cost?
They take care of backups etc I would assume?
How difficult was it to make the transition?
I presume your accountant can get right in without having to create and 
transfer accountant copies of the DB?

From: Sean Heskett
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:24 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

we moved ours to their cloud and haven't looked back.  much less clunky than 
running it on a local server etc.

YMMV

-Sean


On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something worth doing or 
maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows server 2012 and try to 
figure out the while terminal services thing with licensing. I was thinking it 
might just be easier since I only need one or two people to remote in just to 
get some headless PC's and sit them in a corner somewhere.

Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?

The specs from QB are:
· Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit & 64-bit)
· Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2
· 2.4 GHz processor
· 4 GB of RAM
· 2.5 GB disk space recommended
· 1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is supported
· 4x DVD-ROM drive

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread Chuck McCown

I presume you mean you moved QB to the Intuit cloud.
How much does that cost?
They take care of backups etc I would assume?
How difficult was it to make the transition?
I presume your accountant can get right in without having to create and 
transfer accountant copies of the DB?

From: Sean Heskett 
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:24 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

we moved ours to their cloud and haven't looked back.  much less clunky than 
running it on a local server etc. 

YMMV

-Sean

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Lewis Bergman  wrote:

  This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something worth doing or 
maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows server 2012 and try to 
figure out the while terminal services thing with licensing. I was thinking it 
might just be easier since I only need one or two people to remote in just to 
get some headless PC's and sit them in a corner somewhere. 

  Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?

  The specs from QB are:
a.. Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit & 64-bit) 
b.. Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2 
c.. 2.4 GHz processor 
d.. 4 GB of RAM 
e.. 2.5 GB disk space recommended  
f.. 1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is supported 
g.. 4x DVD-ROM drive

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread Sean Heskett

we moved ours to their cloud and haven't looked back.  much less clunky
than running it on a local server etc.

YMMV

-Sean


On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Lewis Bergman 
wrote:

> This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something worth doing
> or maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows server 2012 and
> try to figure out the while terminal services thing with licensing. I was
> thinking it might just be easier since I only need one or two people to
> remote in just to get some headless PC's and sit them in a corner somewhere.
>
> Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?
>
> The specs from QB are:
>
>- Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit &
>64-bit)
>- Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2
>- 2.4 GHz processor
>- 4 GB of RAM
>- 2.5 GB disk space recommended
>- 1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is supported
>- 4x DVD-ROM drive
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm

Heres what we set up for one of our customers who has a shit ton of QB
seats and remote access from some really crummy internet connections

The database for QB and the compliment software that uses the QB database
sits on w2k8 server (it can sit on a w7 pro machine in a pinch with zero
issue) multiple instances of w7 pro.
There were always issues with windows RDP so we got them Blaze RDP
http://www.ericom.com/ericom-blaze/ (cheap and perpetual license)
Everything sits inside Vmvare, full image backups with file level restore
using VEEAM Backup. the server instance has 8 cores assigned with 16 gb RAM
and the w7 instances have 2x2 cores assigned with 8gb ram. This is a
testimonial setup becuse they had so many instances of lost time due to the
shitbox internet connections. The print driver virtualization with blaze is
phenominal and it naitively suppors multiple monitors, where RDP alone is a
cobblefuckery of spanned display hi-jinx that QB does not play well with

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> +1 to Chuck.  I've been running QB on Windows in a VM for a while now,
> it's convenient to just RDP.  If you need a keyboard/mouse/etc for this
> person Maybe a Chromebox or NUC?  I'd suggest Chromebox for the speed, but
> NUC has Windows for all the compatibility.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> I RDT into into the machining running a QB client all the time with a
>> laptop.  As a matter of fact, I use my laptop more than half the time with
>> a docking booster so I can have a real monitor and keyboard.
>> That screenshot was from my laptop logged into the headless system
>> running the client talking to another server running the QB database.
>>
>> *From:* Lewis Bergman
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2016 9:15 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP
>>
>> To be clear, This is not the machine running the DB. That machine will be
>> on the network. this is just a box to RDP into so my sales person can run
>> QB Enterprise remotely. Bill, do you RDP into QB?
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 10:08 AM Bill Prince  wrote:
>>
>>> We ran QB Enterprise on Windows 7 and Windows 10 (both 64 bit). 4GB RAM
>>> is probably shy; would recommend 8 at least. The disk space is probably shy
>>> too.
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/1/2016 7:53 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>>
>>> This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something worth
>>> doing or maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows server
>>> 2012 and try to figure out the while terminal services thing with
>>> licensing. I was thinking it might just be easier since I only need one or
>>> two people to remote in just to get some headless PC's and sit them in a
>>> corner somewhere.
>>>
>>> Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?
>>>
>>> The specs from QB are:
>>>
>>>- Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit &
>>>64-bit)
>>>- Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2
>>>- 2.4 GHz processor
>>>- 4 GB of RAM
>>>- 2.5 GB disk space recommended
>>>- 1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is
>>>supported
>>>- 4x DVD-ROM drive
>>>
>>>
>>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras

2016-11-01 Thread Ken Hohhof

Kurt, sorry to keep bugging you about this, but I just realized that is the 
coax version of the Dahua camera, the POE version would appear to be 
DH-SD50A230TN-HN.

 

Any reason you  are using analog rather than IP?  Are you feeding multiple 
cameras into an encoder/DVR or something?  I typically have spare Cat5 cables 
up towers but not coax.  I’m assuming the network version could be powered via 
802.3at up to 300 ft.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 8:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras

 

Paul,

 

I have done this on 5 different towers this summer and it works great. The 
camera I am using a PTZ with 30x optical zoom Dahua brand model# 
DH-SD50A230IN-HC-S2 Its a Chinese camera but the housing is rugged and rated 
for IP67. You can pick them up for anywhere from $400-600 online. Here is a 
video I made from a 130' tower with this camera. In the video I am controlling 
the camera from 15 miles away sitting at my office. 

 

https://youtu.be/wl9gLF0nZ9o

 

 

 

 

On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Jerry Head  > wrote:

We have hung about 6 of these for the local 911 guys...
http://www.axis.com/ie/en/products/axis-p56-series
They seem to work pretty well.


On 10/27/2016 9:54 AM, Paul McCall wrote:

We want to put a camera(s) at the top of a 400ï¿½ tower.ï¿½ Best way to get 360 
degree coverage?

ï¿½

Paul

ï¿½

Paul McCall, President

PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800ï¿½ 

pa...@pdmnet.net  

www.pdmnet.com  

www.floridabroadband.com  

ï¿½

ï¿½

Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M365

2016-11-01 Thread Josh Reynolds

Yes, unfortunately

On Nov 1, 2016 11:02 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> there are douchebag vendors that sell non US radios to people in the US
>
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 7:53 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, the AF3x definitely will do the whole 50mhz, and the Rockets
>> definitely do not.
>>
>> On Oct 31, 2016 7:10 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>>
>>> The AF3X does AFAIK, the M does not.
>>>
>>> On Oct 31, 2016 6:10 PM, "Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr." <
>>> mailing-li...@phxinternet.com> wrote:
>>>
 Does anyone know if the 3.65 product from UBNT supports the full 3.65
 band? 3.65-3.70... The data sheet only shows the lower half.

 Gilbert


>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M365

2016-11-01 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm

there are douchebag vendors that sell non US radios to people in the US

On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 7:53 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

> Yes, the AF3x definitely will do the whole 50mhz, and the Rockets
> definitely do not.
>
> On Oct 31, 2016 7:10 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>
>> The AF3X does AFAIK, the M does not.
>>
>> On Oct 31, 2016 6:10 PM, "Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr." <
>> mailing-li...@phxinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know if the 3.65 product from UBNT supports the full 3.65
>>> band? 3.65-3.70... The data sheet only shows the lower half.
>>>
>>> Gilbert
>>>
>>>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Tired of looking at it

2016-11-01 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm

there are not enough swear words

On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> OK, telsa coil is in.
>
> -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen
> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 1:19 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tired of looking at it
>
> On 10/31/16 12:15, Cameron Crum wrote:
>
>> I'm just curious if you actually work with test tubes and pipettes when
>> designing surge protectors? Or is that just to make it look all "sciency"?
>>
>
>
> Put in a picture of a Tesla coil.
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: SAF Lumina Power supply

2016-11-01 Thread George Skorup

And if you need to get creative with powering the Lumina, this will do 
the trick. One on top and one on the bottom. Or a GigE-POE-APC on the 
bottom.


http://www.mccowntech.com/outdoor-gige-poe-midspan-poe-injector-ethernet-surge-protector/

So you can 'peel' off the power at the top. Use the Lumina factory ODU 
power pigtail to the terminal block on the GIGE-POE box.


On 11/1/2016 10:22 AM, Daniel White wrote:


Nothing special about them.  48VDC 1.5A should do the trick.

Lumina radios are polarity agnostic.

Daniel White

Managing Director ï¿½ Hardware Distribution Sales

ConVergence Technologies__

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

dwh...@converge-tech.com 

*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 1, 2016 8:40 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Cc:* Daniel White (dwh...@converge-tech.com) 
*Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: SAF Lumina Power supply

In February 2013, we purchased some SAF Lumina 11 Ghz radios and used 
their 48v power supplies with it.  They have been running all this 
time without incident, but I think we have a power supply issue at one 
of the sites.


I need to buy a couple replacements and canï¿½t remember if there was 
anything different about them. We tried to use the purple cube power 
supplies that we use with CMM4s etc., and it blew the Polyphaser so 
thinking there might be something different we need.


Paul

Paul McCall, President

PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800

pa...@pdmnet.net 

www.pdmnet.com 

www.floridabroadband.com 


 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread Josh Luthman

+1 to Chuck.  I've been running QB on Windows in a VM for a while now, it's
convenient to just RDP.  If you need a keyboard/mouse/etc for this person
Maybe a Chromebox or NUC?  I'd suggest Chromebox for the speed, but NUC has
Windows for all the compatibility.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> I RDT into into the machining running a QB client all the time with a
> laptop.  As a matter of fact, I use my laptop more than half the time with
> a docking booster so I can have a real monitor and keyboard.
> That screenshot was from my laptop logged into the headless system running
> the client talking to another server running the QB database.
>
> *From:* Lewis Bergman
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2016 9:15 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP
>
> To be clear, This is not the machine running the DB. That machine will be
> on the network. this is just a box to RDP into so my sales person can run
> QB Enterprise remotely. Bill, do you RDP into QB?
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 10:08 AM Bill Prince  wrote:
>
>> We ran QB Enterprise on Windows 7 and Windows 10 (both 64 bit). 4GB RAM
>> is probably shy; would recommend 8 at least. The disk space is probably shy
>> too.
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 11/1/2016 7:53 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>
>> This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something worth
>> doing or maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows server
>> 2012 and try to figure out the while terminal services thing with
>> licensing. I was thinking it might just be easier since I only need one or
>> two people to remote in just to get some headless PC's and sit them in a
>> corner somewhere.
>>
>> Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?
>>
>> The specs from QB are:
>>
>>- Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit &
>>64-bit)
>>- Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2
>>- 2.4 GHz processor
>>- 4 GB of RAM
>>- 2.5 GB disk space recommended
>>- 1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is supported
>>- 4x DVD-ROM drive
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread Stefan Englhardt

We’ve an Intel NUC running. A very smart box.





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Lewis Bergman
Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. November 2016 16:04
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP



Oh yea, and the point was to avoid learning something. I have got to think that 
a VM is going to introduce a whole lot of that.



On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 10:03 AM Lewis Bergman  > wrote:

This computer won't actually have the data files on it, just the program and 
RDP.



On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 9:56 AM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]  > wrote:

Run it in a VM so it is easy to backup.



Jim Bouse



Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S®6 active, an AT 4G LTE smartphone





 Original message 

From: Lewis Bergman  >

Date: 11/1/16 9:53 AM (GMT-06:00)

To: Animal Farm  >

Subject: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP



This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something worth doing or 
maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows server 2012 and try to 
figure out the while terminal services thing with licensing. I was thinking it 
might just be easier since I only need one or two people to remote in just to 
get some headless PC's and sit them in a corner somewhere.



Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?



The specs from QB are:

*Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit & 64-bit)

*Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2

*2.4 GHz processor

*4 GB of RAM

*2.5 GB disk space recommended

*1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is supported

*4x DVD-ROM drive

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

2016-11-01 Thread George Skorup

The data that Matt showed us at HQ a few weeks ago where an operator 
(not in the US) with over 100 SMs! on a single 450 sector proved that a 
performance boost of 3-3.5x is possible simply by swapping to a 450m 
sector. And that's still using only that single 20MHz channel in 90 
degrees. They created this thing for a reason. And that right there is 
it. Nuckin futs.


On 11/1/2016 9:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Rise Broadband
?
*From:* Matt Mangriotis
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:08 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

I will say that we have a [very large] customer that will remain 
nameless, which has ~1100 active customers across more than 12 sectors 
of 450m.  They are very pleased with the performance.


There are several others that are putting up their first sectors now 
as well.  If you run into issues, we are escalating support cases to 
our team that has a lot of experience in deploying this model.


Matt

*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2016 8:34 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphonse_and_Gaston#/media/File:Alphonsegaston.jpg 



*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *SmarterBroadband
*Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2016 7:39 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

Our first 450m should arrive this week.  We plan to replace an 
existing 450 AP that has 66 customers for our first deployment.


However, I do not want to do this until I have heard that there are 
some installed and working.


Does anyone have 450m up and running.  Would you please share your 
experiences and results.


Thanks

Adam

Re: [AFMUG] OT: SAF Lumina Power supply

2016-11-01 Thread Daniel White

Nothing special about them.  48VDC 1.5A should do the trick.

 

Lumina radios are polarity agnostic.

 

Daniel White

Managing Director - Hardware Distribution Sales

ConVergence Technologies

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

  dwh...@converge-tech.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 8:40 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Cc: Daniel White (dwh...@converge-tech.com) 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: SAF Lumina Power supply

 

In February 2013, we purchased some SAF Lumina 11 Ghz radios and used their
48v power supplies with it.  They have been running all this time without
incident, but I think we have a power supply issue at one of the sites.

 

I need to buy a couple replacements and can't remember if there was anything
different about them.  We tried to use the purple cube power supplies that
we use with CMM4s etc., and it blew the Polyphaser so thinking there might
be something different we need.

 

Paul

 

Paul McCall, President

PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800  

pa...@pdmnet.net  

www.pdmnet.com  

www.floridabroadband.com  

 

 



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Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread Chuck McCown

I RDT into into the machining running a QB client all the time with a laptop.  
As a matter of fact, I use my laptop more than half the time with a docking 
booster so I can have a real monitor and keyboard.  
That screenshot was from my laptop logged into the headless system running the 
client talking to another server running the QB database.  

From: Lewis Bergman 
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 9:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

To be clear, This is not the machine running the DB. That machine will be on 
the network. this is just a box to RDP into so my sales person can run QB 
Enterprise remotely. Bill, do you RDP into QB?

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 10:08 AM Bill Prince  wrote:

  We ran QB Enterprise on Windows 7 and Windows 10 (both 64 bit). 4GB RAM is 
probably shy; would recommend 8 at least. The disk space is probably shy too.

bp

On 11/1/2016 7:53 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something worth doing 
or maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows server 2012 and try 
to figure out the while terminal services thing with licensing. I was thinking 
it might just be easier since I only need one or two people to remote in just 
to get some headless PC's and sit them in a corner somewhere. 

Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?

The specs from QB are:
  a.. Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit & 
64-bit) 
  b.. Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2 
  c.. 2.4 GHz processor 
  d.. 4 GB of RAM 
  e.. 2.5 GB disk space recommended  
  f.. 1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is supported 
  g.. 4x DVD-ROM drive

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread Bill Prince

No we didn't. We had one machine to run the DB, and two or three that we 
would use to access the DB locally. They were all similar machines in 
capability, and all ran either Windows 7 or Windows 10, depending on 
time frame.


bp


On 11/1/2016 8:15 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
To be clear, This is not the machine running the DB. That machine will 
be on the network. this is just a box to RDP into so my sales person 
can run QB Enterprise remotely. Bill, do you RDP into QB?


On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 10:08 AM Bill Prince > wrote:


We ran QB Enterprise on Windows 7 and Windows 10 (both 64 bit).
4GB RAM is probably shy; would recommend 8 at least. The disk
space is probably shy too.

bp


On 11/1/2016 7:53 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something
worth doing or maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get
Windows server 2012 and try to figure out the while terminal
services thing with licensing. I was thinking it might just be
easier since I only need one or two people to remote in just to
get some headless PC's and sit them in a corner somewhere.

Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?

The specs from QB are:

  * Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit
& 64-bit)
  * Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2
  * 2.4 GHz processor
  * 4 GB of RAM
  * 2.5 GB disk space recommended
  * 1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is
supported
  * 4x DVD-ROM drive

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread Adam Moffett

Not necessarily.  Virtual Box is really easy.
You still need a copy of Windows for each VM so it might not save you 
anything versus a stack of little low power PC's.

-- Original Message --
From: "Lewis Bergman" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 11/1/2016 11:04:04 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

Oh yea, and the point was to avoid learning something. I have got to 
think that a VM is going to introduce a whole lot of that.

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 10:03 AM Lewis Bergman  
wrote:
This computer won't actually have the data files on it, just the 
program and RDP.

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 9:56 AM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] 
 wrote:

Run it in a VM so it is easy to backup.

Jim Bouse

Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S®6 active, an AT 4G LTE smartphone

 Original message 
From: Lewis Bergman 
Date: 11/1/16 9:53 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something worth 
doing or maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows 
server 2012 and try to figure out the while terminal services thing 
with licensing. I was thinking it might just be easier since I only 
need one or two people to remote in just to get some headless PC's 
and sit them in a corner somewhere.

Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?

The specs from QB are:
Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit & 
64-bit) Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2 2.4 GHz processor 4 GB of 
RAM 2.5 GB disk space recommended  1024x768 or higher screen 
resolution, extended monitor is supported 4x DVD-ROM drive

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread Lewis Bergman

To be clear, This is not the machine running the DB. That machine will be
on the network. this is just a box to RDP into so my sales person can run
QB Enterprise remotely. Bill, do you RDP into QB?

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 10:08 AM Bill Prince  wrote:

> We ran QB Enterprise on Windows 7 and Windows 10 (both 64 bit). 4GB RAM is
> probably shy; would recommend 8 at least. The disk space is probably shy
> too.
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 11/1/2016 7:53 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>
> This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something worth doing
> or maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows server 2012 and
> try to figure out the while terminal services thing with licensing. I was
> thinking it might just be easier since I only need one or two people to
> remote in just to get some headless PC's and sit them in a corner
> somewhere.
>
> Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?
>
> The specs from QB are:
>
>- Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit &
>64-bit)
>- Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2
>- 2.4 GHz processor
>- 4 GB of RAM
>- 2.5 GB disk space recommended
>- 1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is supported
>- 4x DVD-ROM drive
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread Bill Prince

We ran QB Enterprise on Windows 7 and Windows 10 (both 64 bit). 4GB RAM 
is probably shy; would recommend 8 at least. The disk space is probably 
shy too.


bp


On 11/1/2016 7:53 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something worth 
doing or maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows 
server 2012 and try to figure out the while terminal services thing 
with licensing. I was thinking it might just be easier since I only 
need one or two people to remote in just to get some headless PC's and 
sit them in a corner somewhere.


Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?

The specs from QB are:

  * Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit & 64-bit)
  * Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2
  * 2.4 GHz processor
  * 4 GB of RAM
  * 2.5 GB disk space recommended
  * 1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is supported
  * 4x DVD-ROM drive

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread Chuck McCown

I do that all the time.  I honestly don’t know what the hardware is and I am 
not physically at that site.  
I did a screen shot from inside the VM running on that machine.  I presume it 
is accurate.  

From: Lewis Bergman 
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:53 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something worth doing or 
maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows server 2012 and try to 
figure out the while terminal services thing with licensing. I was thinking it 
might just be easier since I only need one or two people to remote in just to 
get some headless PC's and sit them in a corner somewhere. 

Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?

The specs from QB are:
  a.. Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit & 64-bit) 
  b.. Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2 
  c.. 2.4 GHz processor 
  d.. 4 GB of RAM 
  e.. 2.5 GB disk space recommended  
  f.. 1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is supported 
  g.. 4x DVD-ROM drive

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread Rory Conaway

You can run RDP on any windows software, you don’t need server if you only want 
1 user at a time.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 8:04 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

Oh yea, and the point was to avoid learning something. I have got to think that 
a VM is going to introduce a whole lot of that.

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 10:03 AM Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
This computer won't actually have the data files on it, just the program and 
RDP.

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 9:56 AM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] 
> wrote:
Run it in a VM so it is easy to backup.

Jim Bouse

Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S®6 active, an AT 4G LTE smartphone

 Original message 
From: Lewis Bergman >
Date: 11/1/16 9:53 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: Animal Farm >
Subject: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something worth doing or 
maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows server 2012 and try to 
figure out the while terminal services thing with licensing. I was thinking it 
might just be easier since I only need one or two people to remote in just to 
get some headless PC's and sit them in a corner somewhere.

Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?

The specs from QB are:
·  Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit & 64-bit)
·  Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2
·  2.4 GHz processor
·  4 GB of RAM
·  2.5 GB disk space recommended
·  1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is supported
·  4x DVD-ROM drive

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread Lewis Bergman

Oh yea, and the point was to avoid learning something. I have got to think
that a VM is going to introduce a whole lot of that.

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 10:03 AM Lewis Bergman 
wrote:

> This computer won't actually have the data files on it, just the program
> and RDP.
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 9:56 AM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] 
> wrote:
>
> Run it in a VM so it is easy to backup.
>
> Jim Bouse
>
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S®6 active, an AT 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Lewis Bergman 
> Date: 11/1/16 9:53 AM (GMT-06:00)
> To: Animal Farm 
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP
>
> This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something worth doing
> or maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows server 2012 and
> try to figure out the while terminal services thing with licensing. I was
> thinking it might just be easier since I only need one or two people to
> remote in just to get some headless PC's and sit them in a corner
> somewhere.
>
> Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?
>
> The specs from QB are:
>
>- Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit &
>64-bit)
>- Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2
>- 2.4 GHz processor
>- 4 GB of RAM
>- 2.5 GB disk space recommended
>- 1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is supported
>- 4x DVD-ROM drive
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread Lewis Bergman

This computer won't actually have the data files on it, just the program
and RDP.

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 9:56 AM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] 
wrote:

> Run it in a VM so it is easy to backup.
>
> Jim Bouse
>
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S®6 active, an AT 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Lewis Bergman 
> Date: 11/1/16 9:53 AM (GMT-06:00)
> To: Animal Farm 
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP
>
> This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something worth doing
> or maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows server 2012 and
> try to figure out the while terminal services thing with licensing. I was
> thinking it might just be easier since I only need one or two people to
> remote in just to get some headless PC's and sit them in a corner
> somewhere.
>
> Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?
>
> The specs from QB are:
>
>- Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit &
>64-bit)
>- Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2
>- 2.4 GHz processor
>- 4 GB of RAM
>- 2.5 GB disk space recommended
>- 1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is supported
>- 4x DVD-ROM drive
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

2016-11-01 Thread Chuck McCown

It was a snapchat...

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

Isn't it kind of common knowledge now? I think I heard Anthony Wiener was 
tweeting about it.

bp

On 11/1/2016 7:25 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

  You were supposed to say that in your head, not out loud.

  ï¿½

  ï¿½

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
  Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 9:18 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

  ï¿½

  Rise Broadband

  ?

  ï¿½

  From: Matt Mangriotis 

  Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:08 AM

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

  ï¿½

  I will say that we have a [very large] customer that will remain nameless, 
which has ~1100 active customers across more than 12 sectors of 450m.ï¿½ They 
are very pleased with the performance.

  ï¿½

  There are several others that are putting up their first sectors now as 
well.ï¿½ If you run into issues, we are escalating support cases to our team 
that has a lot of experience in deploying this model.

  ï¿½

  Matt

  ï¿½

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
  Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 8:34 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

  ï¿½

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphonse_and_Gaston#/media/File:Alphonsegaston.jpg

  ï¿½

  ï¿½

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
  Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 7:39 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

  ï¿½

  Our first 450m should arrive this week.ï¿½ We plan to replace an existing 450 
AP that has 66 customers for our first deployment. 

  ï¿½

  However, I do not want to do this until I have heard that there are some 
installed and working.

  ï¿½

  Does anyone have 450m up and running.ï¿½ Would you please share your 
experiences and results.

  ï¿½

  Thanks

  ï¿½

  Adam

  ï¿½

  ï¿½

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]

Run it in a VM so it is easy to backup.

Jim Bouse

Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S®6 active, an AT 4G LTE smartphone

 Original message 
From: Lewis Bergman 
Date: 11/1/16 9:53 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something worth doing or 
maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows server 2012 and try to 
figure out the while terminal services thing with licensing. I was thinking it 
might just be easier since I only need one or two people to remote in just to 
get some headless PC's and sit them in a corner somewhere.

Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?

The specs from QB are:

  *   Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit & 64-bit)
  *   Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2
  *   2.4 GHz processor
  *   4 GB of RAM
  *   2.5 GB disk space recommended
  *   1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is supported
  *   4x DVD-ROM drive

[AFMUG] OT : Small computer to run QB enterprise with RDP

2016-11-01 Thread Lewis Bergman

This is a bright group so I wanted to see if this is something worth doing
or maybe worth avoiding. I really don't want to get Windows server 2012 and
try to figure out the while terminal services thing with licensing. I was
thinking it might just be easier since I only need one or two people to
remote in just to get some headless PC's and sit them in a corner somewhere.

Probably a bad idea but any thoughts?

The specs from QB are:

   - Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8.1 Update 1, or Windows 10(32-bit & 64-bit)
   - Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, 2012 R2
   - 2.4 GHz processor
   - 4 GB of RAM
   - 2.5 GB disk space recommended
   - 1024x768 or higher screen resolution, extended monitor is supported
   - 4x DVD-ROM drive

Re: [AFMUG] OT: SAF Lumina Power supply

2016-11-01 Thread Cassidy B. Larson

I’ve used an UBNT AF24 power supply and a Netonix on 48vH to power SAF Luminas 
before.



> On Nov 1, 2016, at 8:40 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:
> 
> In February 2013, we purchased some SAF Lumina 11 Ghz radios and used their 
> 48v power supplies with it.  They have been running all this time without 
> incident, but I think we have a power supply issue at one of the sites.
>  
> I need to buy a couple replacements and can’t remember if there was anything 
> different about them.  We tried to use the purple cube power supplies that we 
> use with CMM4s etc., and it blew the Polyphaser so thinking there might be 
> something different we need.
>  
> Paul
>  
> Paul McCall, President
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
> 772-564-6800  
> pa...@pdmnet.net 
> www.pdmnet.com 
> www.floridabroadband.com

[AFMUG] OT: SAF Lumina Power supply

2016-11-01 Thread Paul McCall

In February 2013, we purchased some SAF Lumina 11 Ghz radios and used their 48v 
power supplies with it.  They have been running all this time without incident, 
but I think we have a power supply issue at one of the sites.

I need to buy a couple replacements and can't remember if there was anything 
different about them.  We tried to use the purple cube power supplies that we 
use with CMM4s etc., and it blew the Polyphaser so thinking there might be 
something different we need.

Paul

Paul McCall, President
PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800
pa...@pdmnet.net
www.pdmnet.com
www.floridabroadband.com

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 60 miles 400Mbps

2016-11-01 Thread Jaime Solorza

Desert shots over long distances are affected by ducting... Thermal
inversion for oneover water we have other issues to contend with as
well Diversity is one way to overcome predictive issues and some
unforeseen fading phenomena... Rain in desert... High winds over water...
These all affect radio signals and more frequently attributed to specific
wavelength.. Look at legacy telco links... Diversity (spatial and now
defunct frequency)  was used.   Another trick was scatter links but I think
those are no longer allowed..

On Nov 1, 2016 8:21 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz"  wrote:

> Keep in mind that Rory is in Arizona !   :)
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Charles Regan" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, November 1, 2016 9:36:09 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] PTP 60 miles 400Mbps
>
> 11ghz? How stable is that link? Signals? Screenshot?
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Rory Conaway 
> wrote:
>
>> I have a 50 mile B11 link with 4’ dishes running 400Mbps.  When the
>> alignment is done, it should hit 480Mbps.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2016 7:11 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PTP 60 miles 400Mbps
>>
>>
>>
>> If you are already using AF5X, would this be a possibility?[image:
>> Inline image 1]
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>> We did a link from across the bay in Corpus Cristi with Tsunami 5Ghz
>> radios using 4 ft. Dishes using horizontal polarity.   5 story building on
>> one side and 120 ft.  Tower at other side.   These were 10mbps radios and
>> we got almost 100% across.  All the other links on same roof and other
>> water as well used vertical polarity and had ducting issues.   With MIMO
>> and all kinds of polarity options I am sure you can find a solution.
>> Antenna diversity must be engineered for path and conditions.   Where are
>> you trying to shoot from?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 31, 2016 6:39 PM, "Cassidy B. Larson"  wrote:
>>
>> Did SAF try 6GHz? Or did they only try 5GHz?
>>
>> Seems a 2+0 at 6 would probably work at that distance.. although seawater
>> is a factor I dunno about
>>
>>
>> On Oct 31, 2016, at 18:32, Charles Regan  wrote:
>>
>> Well here's SAF response:
>> *My link planning team confirmed SAF does not have a viable 5GHz radio
>> that can achieve your objective for this path.*
>>
>> Trango:
>> *rough calculation suggests that even using space diversity will yield a
>> 3 - 4 'nines' link (predicted reliability) at around 200Mbps FDX.  The use
>> of space diversity will also add considerably to the cost (a complete link
>> might be upwards of $50K).*
>>
>> I'll ask SIAE...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 31, 2016 9:19 PM, "Eric Kuhnke"  wrote:
>>
>> 20k?
>>
>> SIAE AlfoPlus2 6 GHz 1024QAM dual polarity link. Or two pairs of
>> alfoplus1 1024qam (single polarity) radios running in parallel, opposite
>> polarities, equal OSPF cost between routers.
>>
>> Or Trango's 1024QAM 6GHz radios.
>>
>> Why not SAF?  I thought there was a 6 GHz version of the Integra now.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Charles Regan 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> What would you guys use for a 60 miles PTP link? 400Mbps. Oh and it's
>> over seawater... 20k$ budget.
>>
>> SAF, Trango both said sorry, can't do.
>> Mimosa B5C with space diversity and 3k$ maybe.
>>
>> We do have a working AF5x with a 34dbi dish doing 150Mbps aggregate.
>> The link gets bad sometimes because of ducting/reflection.
>>
>> How could I use two parabolics dish on different polarity with the AF5x
>> for space diversity? Splitter?
>>
>> Should a B5C perform better or worse ?
>>
>> Charles
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

2016-11-01 Thread Ken Hohhof

Well, now youve ruined Cambiums marketing slogan for me:

http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/gomassive/

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 9:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

 

Isn't it kind of common knowledge now? I think I heard Anthony Wiener was
tweeting about it.

 

bp

 

On 11/1/2016 7:25 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

You were supposed to say that in your head, not out loud.

ï¿½

ï¿½

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 9:18 AM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

ï¿½

Rise Broadband

?

ï¿½

From: Matt Mangriotis 

Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:08 AM

To: af@afmug.com   

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

ï¿½

I will say that we have a [very large] customer that will remain nameless,
which has ~1100 active customers across more than 12 sectors of 450m.ï¿½
They are very pleased with the performance.

ï¿½

There are several others that are putting up their first sectors now as
well.ï¿½ If you run into issues, we are escalating support cases to our team
that has a lot of experience in deploying this model.

ï¿½

Matt

ï¿½

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 8:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

ï¿½

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphonse_and_Gaston#/media/File:Alphonsegaston
.jpg
 

ï¿½

ï¿½

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 7:39 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

ï¿½

Our first 450m should arrive this week.ï¿½ We plan to replace an existing
450 AP that has 66 customers for our first deployment. 

ï¿½

However, I do not want to do this until I have heard that there are some
installed and working.

ï¿½

Does anyone have 450m up and running.ï¿½ Would you please share your
experiences and results.

ï¿½

Thanks

ï¿½

Adam

ï¿½

ï¿½

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 60 miles 400Mbps

2016-11-01 Thread Seth Mattinen


On 11/1/16 7:28 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

And that the OP is shooting over seawater.



I wonder if someone has a solution to move the antennas up and down with
the tides?




That's why diversity antennas mounted at different heights.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

2016-11-01 Thread Bill Prince

Isn't it kind of common knowledge now? I think I heard Anthony Wiener 
was tweeting about it.



bp


On 11/1/2016 7:25 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


You were supposed to say that in your head, not out loud.

*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 1, 2016 9:18 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

Rise Broadband

?

*From:*Matt Mangriotis

*Sent:*Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:08 AM

*To:*af@afmug.com 

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

I will say that we have a [very large] customer that will remain 
nameless, which has ~1100 active customers across more than 12 sectors 
of 450m.  They are very pleased with the performance.


There are several others that are putting up their first sectors now 
as well.  If you run into issues, we are escalating support cases to 
our team that has a lot of experience in deploying this model.


Matt

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2016 8:34 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

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*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *SmarterBroadband
*Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2016 7:39 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

Our first 450m should arrive this week.  We plan to replace an 
existing 450 AP that has 66 customers for our first deployment.


However, I do not want to do this until I have heard that there are 
some installed and working.


Does anyone have 450m up and running.  Would you please share your 
experiences and results.


Thanks

Adam

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