Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review
Saw Hotel Artemis last night I felt it needed another hour of storyline. Have not made it to Ocean's 8 yet... my MoviePass is getting a good workout though Sent from my smartphone - Reply message - From: "Jaime Solorza" To: "Animal Farm" Subject: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review Date: Sat, Jun 9, 2018 8:10 PM We watched Death Wish with Bruce Willis at homeit's okay Jaime Solorza On Sat, Jun 9, 2018, 7:02 PM Chuck McCown wrote: Oceans 8 Meh OK, Movie Pass made me not regret paying for it. Just was not funny like the other Ocean movies.
Re: [AFMUG] List
Awaiting the arrival of our new home. Thanks for the help for the past 5 years Pauldont go anywhere:) Glad you are smiling a little more of these days Chuck :) Sent from my smartphone - Reply message - From: "Jason McKemie" To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: [AFMUG] List Date: Wed, Jun 6, 2018 10:44 PM There are more pros:Superman A lot of fun A bunch of those cons are also pros. On Wednesday, June 6, 2018, Chuck McCown wrote: To drink or not to drink. Pros and cons Pros Buzz Cons Dick stops working, even the next day Ugly women look good to you You hit on ugly women You can fu*k up your ability to get insurance or a drivers license Hangovers Puke mouth Kissing a puke mouth Beer goggles Beer gut Puking Cleaning up Puke Screwing your buddies wife Waking up in jail for no apparent reason Waking up in your car not knowing where you are Waking up not knowing where you are Discovering you bought many rounds for the whole bar on your credit card Waking up with a new girlfriend that you don’t know. Learning you were making out with a totally fugly girl that is old enough to be your mother. Puking in public venues before thousands of people Waking up face down in a bathtub thinking you are dead because all you can see is white. Did I mention that your dick stops working... So I have been told... From: Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 3:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List i havent been drinking, so its ok thats a lie though i have been drinking and its not ok On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: Good to hear, I'm having withdrawals. On Wednesday, June 6, 2018, wrote: I am in the process of moving it. AWS or whatever is running on the AWS is getting progressively more and more flakey. So, I have put it off long enough. Domain will move to GoDaddy and the list will move to mailmanhost.com Will probably take a few days. From: Jason McKemie Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] List Is this list just done? Seems to be off as much as on anymore. Unless everyone is just outside as opposed to in front of a computer like me.
Re: [AFMUG] APC surge cards board size
i purchased from cti about two weeks ago, same issue. even came with the warning labels. i am OK with them - i put them in odd numbered jacks. - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, May 7, 2018 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] APC surge cards board size Odd, we have not made those thin cards since last summer and only for a very short lived REV. The jacks were so tall that even with the thin cards and removing some of the jack shield there was still a danger of touching the adjacent card. So we went back to the older jacks. Wonder who you got them from as that is pretty old stock. I will replace them if you want. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, May 07, 2018 10:05 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] APC surge cards board size Did anyone else notice the newest cards are much thinner than the new ones? They slide in/out of the WBMFG APC case a whole lot easier. We did check a couple to make sure we had continuity from the shield to ground, so at least it's making connection still. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] OT Moviepass
Ah - haven't been asked to do that yet Sent from my smartphone - Reply message - From: "Cassidy B. Larson" To: Subject: [AFMUG] OT Moviepass Date: Tue, May 1, 2018 10:24 PM Gotta take a picture of the ticket stub now as proof you’re buying the right one. On May 1, 2018, at 8:38 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: Saw that limitation of seeing only one time...not a deal breaker. Sucks...but not a deal breaker Plus why not tell MoviePass you're seeing a movie you have no desire to see and buy the ticket for the movie you want to see again They're just rules...right? Sent from my smartphone - Reply message -From: "Cassidy B. Larson" To: Subject: [AFMUG] OT MoviepassDate: Tue, May 1, 2018 8:20 PM Also can’t see movies more than once now. Blows. On May 1, 2018, at 18:48, Chuck McCown wrote: Notice that new subscribers only get one movie per week now.
Re: [AFMUG] OT Moviepass
Saw that limitation of seeing only one time...not a deal breaker. Sucks...but not a deal breaker Plus why not tell MoviePass you're seeing a movie you have no desire to see and buy the ticket for the movie you want to see again They're just rules...right? Sent from my smartphone - Reply message - From: "Cassidy B. Larson" To: Subject: [AFMUG] OT Moviepass Date: Tue, May 1, 2018 8:20 PM Also can’t see movies more than once now. Blows. On May 1, 2018, at 18:48, Chuck McCown wrote: Notice that new subscribers only get one movie per week now.
Re: [AFMUG] After Hours Tech Support
but they're doing advertising like it should be done. always keep the brand "out there, in your face" that gets them business... - Original Message - From: Matt Hoppes To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] After Hours Tech Support And that’s why we are lean and they aren’t. Xfinity just put a huge show room in near us. Really? How about kill the show room, stop with the ads all over the place and just run a reasonably priced network. On Apr 27, 2018, at 18:28, Mike Hammett wrote: *yawn* Ask Comcast, AT&T, or Verizon what their cost of acquisition is. It's probably at least that per customer. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Matt Hoppes" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 5:27:04 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] After Hours Tech Support Multiply that over 40 installs a month and that’s $280 at that rate. We run a very very lean very well oiled ship. On Apr 27, 2018, at 18:25, Mike Hammett wrote: Leave it to Matt to complain about a $7 cost of acquisition. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -- From: "Matt Hoppes" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 5:23:56 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] After Hours Tech Support Except it’s a $0 cost of acquisition when done in house. The phone person was already there and can be doing other things while talking to the customer. And I’ve yet to have out of house have the same quality as in house. On Apr 27, 2018, at 17:44, Mike Hammett wrote: I get single digits and all of my calls 24/7 go to SP. Darin gets one a month. Someone needs to stop putting Matt's number on bathroom stalls or Matt needs to be happy people are calling to order service. A $7 (his number) cost of acquisition is great. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Seth Mattinen" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 4:42:51 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] After Hours Tech Support On 4/27/18 14:41, Mike Hammett wrote: > Then I wouldn't worry about it. I think he's saying adding all the non-legit calls would exceed the monthly minimum and he doesn't want to pay for those?
Re: [AFMUG] After Hours Tech Support
we don't have buttons... - Original Message - From: Matt Hoppes To: af@afmug.com ; Leroy Koglin Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] After Hours Tech Support Not arguing... asking How do you handle the customers that just mash buttons? I just walked to take trash out of the office and the phone rings "Tech Support", I answer it and it's someone wanting to get service. I have no idea why he chose Support. Maybe he just thought he could get some technical questions answered there better, maybe no one picked up the sales line. These are the issues (amongst a few others) that keep me from ever outsourcing. I don't want a customer to have to be transferred to be helped, and I don't want to pay the per call fee to someone like SP or GTC for a billing or sales call. On 4/27/18 3:58 PM, Leroy Koglin wrote: > If you want to outsource calls we are very happy with ServerPlus. Any > escalations are handled by our techs. After hours and weekends are > on-call schedules for our techs. We pay an on-call stipend for them to > be available plus their hourly rate for any work performed. We use our > same tech's that work during the week so weekend working from home > usually gets them a little overtime. > > Leroy > > > > > On 4/25/2018 7:39 PM, Matt wrote: >> How or what do you pay an employee to either answer phone calls or >> return voicemails after hours or on weekends? >> >
Re: [AFMUG] After Hours Tech Support
what kind of todo tasks around the office? - Original Message - From: Brian Sullivan To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] After Hours Tech Support We are open until 12AM M-F. New customer's are happy to hear this. Between calls the tech's have a list of tasks to-do around the office. Hourly wages, entry level position. On 4/27/2018 11:27 AM, Paul Stewart wrote: > If you answer calls and return voicemails after hours you set expectation that you always will … so if those calls are important enough (and only you would know) then why not offer extended hours instead? What I’m suggesting is sticking to published business hours and/or adjusting them to meet your customers needs. > >> On Apr 25, 2018, at 7:39 PM, Matt wrote: >> >> How or what do you pay an employee to either answer phone calls or >> return voicemails after hours or on weekends?
[AFMUG] 1040 blues
Worried, you betcha Discouraged, I don't know Every time I see a 1040 Out of my pocket it goes Ow, I hate taxes I work hard for my money Every April you take it all away Don't you know I work hard for my money Every day, people You take it all away from me Ow, ow, I hate taxes Taxes gonna break my back, I swear Don't you know I pay a lot more than my share? I hate taxes Can't have any fun anymore Gotta make plans for everything now Gotta plan for every thing I do, people Can't go out and have a real good time Now I've gotta worry about everything That my little money can buy Oh, ow, I hate taxes Taxes gonna break my back, I swear Don't you know I paid a lot more than my share? I hate taxes You know I'm thinkin' about movin' somewhere else But I can't because I love America too much I guess I'm gonna have to pay these taxes If I'm gonna live here, oh yah
Re: [AFMUG] Product Stock
Pretty sure I got stock from CTI a week or two ago... - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard To: af Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Product Stock The only distributor I've ever gotten MTC products from that weren't drop shipped is Streakwave... but they tend to come from their Utah warehouse anyway, so I'm not sure that it makes much difference over ordering from another distributor that drop ships. On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 3:39 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Does anyone actually stock product? The first two I asked had one or less of the products I'm looking for. 800-GIGE-APC-HV 800-DCSS-APC 800-APC-DIN-SS 800-GIGE-POE-APC - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP
Re: [AFMUG] Stolen credit card info
It was pretty eye opening that one time when I apparently had a passion for Armani ? suits in New York City I've never even been to new york city... - Original Message - From: Brett A Mansfield To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stolen credit card info In all honesty I have my suspicions of which one it was, but felt I’d let people know here. I’m not too concerned as most banks catch this pretty fast just as mine did. The only one I don’t think has anyone on this list has been notified separately. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On Apr 4, 2018, at 1:26 PM, wrote: > > This may be a glib/ignorant answer/opinion but I would point the finger that the smaller companies first. > Have you notified these companies? > > -Original Message- From: Brett A Mansfield > Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 1:24 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: [AFMUG] Stolen credit card info > > This is just an FYI and should not reflect poorly on the companies mentioned. All or even none of them may have been the cause. I’m sending this out just so people pay extra attention to their accounts and so the companies listed can verify their security. > > I have an account/card I use ONLY for purchasing equipment. This card is only two months old and has just been used by someone in the Czech Republic. > > The ONLY places I’ve ever used this card at are the following websites: > > Streakwave.com > Doubleradius.com > Balticnetworks.com > Flytechconputers.com > EnduranceHardware.com > Amazon.com > > All were used within the past two weeks. The fraudulent charges happened today. I encourage all to check their accounts and website security/virus protection. > > > Thank you, > Brett A Mansfield >
Re: [AFMUG] Stolen credit card info
i once saw a pattern that the only website i used that got compromised on multiple cards was godaddy (fyi) - Original Message - From: Brett A Mansfield To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 2:24 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Stolen credit card info This is just an FYI and should not reflect poorly on the companies mentioned. All or even none of them may have been the cause. I’m sending this out just so people pay extra attention to their accounts and so the companies listed can verify their security. I have an account/card I use ONLY for purchasing equipment. This card is only two months old and has just been used by someone in the Czech Republic. The ONLY places I’ve ever used this card at are the following websites: Streakwave.com Doubleradius.com Balticnetworks.com Flytechconputers.com EnduranceHardware.com Amazon.com All were used within the past two weeks. The fraudulent charges happened today. I encourage all to check their accounts and website security/virus protection. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield
Re: [AFMUG] new DNS
i saw 18 ms to cloudfair, 15 ms to google - Original Message - From: Seth Mattinen To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS On 4/3/18 8:09 AM, Darin Steffl wrote: > I've seen cloudflare racks and they have a ton of gear and reliability > built in. They also host two of the root dns servers. Their cache rate > will be much higher than our own servers as well. Oh well I host 6 root servers for redundancy: D, E, F, J, K, and L
Re: [AFMUG] Austin
I was thinking Tushar... - Original Message - From: Jaime Solorza To: Animal Farm Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Austin Tushar??? Jaime Solorza On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 11:21 AM Eric Markow wrote: Does anyone here service south Austin? Thanks, Eric
Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
Still hear that pronounced two different wayseveryone here says it one way...yet the radio station over there says it another. We are 20 minutes away... Sent from my smartphone - Reply message - From: "Cameron Crum" To: Subject: [AFMUG] Serverplus Date: Thu, Mar 29, 2018 2:37 PM Oneonta, AL always got me. On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 1:31 PM, George Skorup wrote: Chicago -- Chee-kaw-guh, which is apparently not too far off from the native pronunciation and means stinky land or something like that. On 3/29/2018 1:02 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: Shenando... not Shenando-ah, Pennsylvania On 3/29/18 2:00 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: Dubois Pennsylvania = Dew-Boys. If you use the French pronunciation they'll correct you. Beethoven Street in Binghamton, NY = Beet`-uh-ven. Apparently not a German composer. -- Original Message -- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: 3/29/2018 1:56:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus How about Hurricane, Utah. Her-a-kin -Original Message- From: Layne Sisk Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 11:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus I have 2 of them from Utah. Juab- in Utah it is Jew-ab Tooele- in Utah it is To-ill-a Layne Sisk ServerPlus 801.426.8283, ext 102 -Original Message- From: Af On Behalf Of Jay Weekley Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 12:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus It's a real town in Alabama by the way. Jay Weekley wrote: Anyone want to guess how you pronounce Ewtah? CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: Arab Mobile just to name a few... - Original Message - *From:* Josh Luthman <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:17 AM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus Here in Ohio it's very easy to know you're not from this neck of the woods (probably western third of the state)... It's Russia, not Russia. It's Piqua, not Piqua. It's Houston, not Houston. It's Rio Grande, not Rio Grande. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:33 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote: I would certainly disagree with that. If someone does not know how to pronounce our community names it would 100% tick me off and clue me into knowing whomever I'm talking to is not here... - Original Message - *From:* Lewis Bergman <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 5:32 AM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus I would say that if you want local pronunciations of words you should run your open tech support. I don't think most people care. They are normally happy just to have someone speak English that they can understand. Until you get about 8000 subs I doubt you can do it anywhere close to the cost that Lane can. On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ> "IN-DE GO" :) On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote: It’s In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go. Like a butchered version of the six fingered man. On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote: That's how it's pronounced... Maybe a regional thing? On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes" mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote: GTC does this too. I don’t know why it’s so hard. The company I used to work for was “Indigo Wireless”. They always say In Dee Go. On Mar 11, 2018, at 14:50, Sterling Jacobson mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> wrote: They are working well for us, and I have a horrible generic support DT, lol! I have had zero complaints from my customers so far this year, so I think they are doing well. The only feedback I’ve had is customers hear
Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
+1
(or 10s)
- Original Message -
From: Tim Reichhart
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
alot...
-Original Message-
From: "Mike Hammett"
To: af@afmug.com
Date: 03/28/18 12:40
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
How many of these are just the local people pronounce it wrong?
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
From: "Tim Reichhart"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 11:37:46 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
Josh
some people cant even say it correctly even know you from area just like
russia they say it weird.
Tim
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-Original Message-----
From: "CBB - Jay Fuller"
To: af@afmug.com
Date: 03/28/18 12:16
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
Arab
Mobile
just to name a few...
- Original Message -
From: Josh Luthman
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
Here in Ohio it's very easy to know you're not from this neck of the
woods (probably western third of the state)...
It's Russia, not Russia.
It's Piqua, not Piqua.
It's Houston, not Houston.
It's Rio Grande, not Rio Grande.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:33 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller
wrote:
I would certainly disagree with that. If someone does not know how
to pronounce our community names it would 100% tick me off and clue me into
knowing whomever I'm talking to is not here...
- Original Message -
From: Lewis Bergman
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 5:32 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
I would say that if you want local pronunciations of words you
should run your open tech support.
I don't think most people care. They are normally happy just to
have someone speak English that they can understand. Until you get about 8000
subs I doubt you can do it anywhere close to the cost that Lane can.
On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds
wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ
"IN-DE GO" :)
On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes
wrote:
It's In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go. Like a butchered
version of the six fingered man.
On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds
wrote:
That's how it's pronounced...
Maybe a regional thing?
On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes"
wrote:
GTC does this too. I don't know why it's so hard.
The company I used to work for was "Indigo Wireless". They
always say In Dee Go.
On Mar 11, 2018, at 14:50, Sterling Jacobson
wrote:
They are working well for us, and I have a horrible
generic support DT, lol!
I have had zero complaints from my customers so far this
year, so I think they are doing well.
The only feedback I've had is customers hear our company
name pronounced five different ways, even though the DT instructs the proper
pronunciation.
But it's a made-up name so my customer are always
confused on pronunciation themselves.
From: Af On Behalf Of
ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:25 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
I would add that Layne's service is only as good as the
decision tree that you provide to him. The more detailed DT, the better the
service will be.
From: Layne Sisk
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:48 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
I would like to share some solid stats with the group.
Please see those below. The comment about a decline is hard to address without
looking at stats. Kind of like the user that calls you and vaguely says "My
internet seems slow" when you have stats
Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
Arab Mobile just to name a few... - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus Here in Ohio it's very easy to know you're not from this neck of the woods (probably western third of the state)... It's Russia, not Russia. It's Piqua, not Piqua. It's Houston, not Houston. It's Rio Grande, not Rio Grande. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:33 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: I would certainly disagree with that. If someone does not know how to pronounce our community names it would 100% tick me off and clue me into knowing whomever I'm talking to is not here... - Original Message - From: Lewis Bergman To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 5:32 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus I would say that if you want local pronunciations of words you should run your open tech support. I don't think most people care. They are normally happy just to have someone speak English that they can understand. Until you get about 8000 subs I doubt you can do it anywhere close to the cost that Lane can. On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ "IN-DE GO" :) On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: It’s In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go. Like a butchered version of the six fingered man. On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds wrote: That's how it's pronounced... Maybe a regional thing? On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes" wrote: GTC does this too. I don’t know why it’s so hard. The company I used to work for was “Indigo Wireless”. They always say In Dee Go. On Mar 11, 2018, at 14:50, Sterling Jacobson wrote: They are working well for us, and I have a horrible generic support DT, lol! I have had zero complaints from my customers so far this year, so I think they are doing well. The only feedback I’ve had is customers hear our company name pronounced five different ways, even though the DT instructs the proper pronunciation. But it’s a made-up name so my customer are always confused on pronunciation themselves. From: Af On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:25 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus I would add that Layne’s service is only as good as the decision tree that you provide to him. The more detailed DT, the better the service will be. From: Layne Sisk Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus I would like to share some solid stats with the group. Please see those below. The comment about a decline is hard to address without looking at stats. Kind of like the user that calls you and vaguely says “My internet seems slow” when you have stats that show they are getting more than they are paying for. We have hired a number of new people recently because we have grown and have added a new office but as Justin said this is a slow time of the year so we also took advantage of this time to get rid of some of our weaker performers. Here are the company wide stats for the past week with some comments about them, I would stack these up against any call center in the world. Sorry if I come on strong, but as you all know this is my baby and I care a lot about it just like you do about your networks. I know we are not perfect, out of 6000 calls I am sure we made a mistake or two and I am happy to address any individual issue directly, but I am pretty proud of what we do. OFFICE STATS SP GOAL Comment AVERAGE TALK TIME 0:11:05 0:10:00 Down from over 13 min 2 months ago TOTAL TALK TIME VS SCHEDULED 69.94% 80% This is agen
Re: [AFMUG] More important things
15 min into it nowi should sleep Sent from my smartphone - Reply message - From: "Chuck Hogg" To: Subject: [AFMUG] More important things Date: Mon, Mar 26, 2018 1:48 AM Billions is awesome Regards, Chuck On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 2:30 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: Homeland tonightwow Just when you think they've done it allto put Carrie in those situations... Or heck to let Carrie put herself in those situations.. Sent from my smartphone - Reply message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: Subject: [AFMUG] More important things Date: Sun, Mar 25, 2018 5:08 PM So tonight is big for TV. Billions Barry Silicon Valley Any others? Of course Homeland. And if like Homeland, you will probably also like The Looming Towers. I read the book years ago. Book was dry and academic. The TV show is pretty good.
Re: [AFMUG] More important things
Homeland tonightwow Just when you think they've done it allto put Carrie in those situations... Or heck to let Carrie put herself in those situations.. Sent from my smartphone - Reply message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: Subject: [AFMUG] More important things Date: Sun, Mar 25, 2018 5:08 PM So tonight is big for TV. Billions Barry Silicon Valley Any others? Of course Homeland. And if like Homeland, you will probably also like The Looming Towers. I read the book years ago. Book was dry and academic. The TV show is pretty good.
Re: [AFMUG] Cambridge Analytica
Lol Sent from my smartphone - Reply message - From: "Sean Heskett" To: Subject: [AFMUG] Cambridge Analytica Date: Sun, Mar 25, 2018 9:52 PM LENT!!! On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 8:42 PM CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: So I just learned Steve Bannon helped start this firm. Oh my God he could have influenced the election. All politicians do with spread dirt anywaylegitimately ( through actual ad buys or their pacs buy ads) or illegitimatly. How is this huge news? Why is this tanking my Facebook stock? Sent from my smartphone
[AFMUG] Cambridge Analytica
So I just learned Steve Bannon helped start this firm. Oh my God he could have influenced the election All politicians do with spread dirt anywaylegitimately ( through actual ad buys or their pacs buy ads) or illegitimatly How is this huge news? Why is this tanking my Facebook stock? Sent from my smartphone
Re: [AFMUG] More important things
I will put it on my list for this summer. - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] More important things Yes, Hulu. Worth it. The non fiction version of Homeland. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 7:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] More important things Where is the looming towers? Don't tell me hulu, i pay enough already. Yah, I need to get off here and start watching my Sunday night tv. :) - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 5:08 PM Subject: [AFMUG] More important things So tonight is big for TV. Billions Barry Silicon Valley Any others? Of course Homeland. And if like Homeland, you will probably also like The Looming Towers. I read the book years ago. Book was dry and academic. The TV show is pretty good.
Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
We have a full time and a part time. The part time appreciates the flexibility. It works most of the time. It can be a pain when we do have high call volume - but we usually encourage the part time to be more available during higher call volume times - Original Message - From: Matt Hoppes To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus Depending on call volume somewhere on the neighborhood of $250-$400/month. That pays a weeks wage for an employee who can now also do other things. On Mar 25, 2018, at 17:50, Steve Jones wrote: How much were you planning on paying serverplus? On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 3:44 PM Matt Hoppes wrote: Interesting point. We are at 1,000 subs I and I just did this economic model. I don’t have 24x7 support. But do have 9-9. With a well running network support calls are near nothing. I took the money I was going to pay SP and hired staff. Now I have people who do phones and other things. On Mar 25, 2018, at 06:32, Lewis Bergman wrote: I would say that if you want local pronunciations of words you should run your open tech support. I don't think most people care. They are normally happy just to have someone speak English that they can understand. Until you get about 8000 subs I doubt you can do it anywhere close to the cost that Lane can. On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ "IN-DE GO" :) On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: It’s In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go. Like a butchered version of the six fingered man. On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds wrote: That's how it's pronounced... Maybe a regional thing? On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes" wrote: GTC does this too. I don’t know why it’s so hard. The company I used to work for was “Indigo Wireless”. They always say In Dee Go. On Mar 11, 2018, at 14:50, Sterling Jacobson wrote: They are working well for us, and I have a horrible generic support DT, lol! I have had zero complaints from my customers so far this year, so I think they are doing well. The only feedback I’ve had is customers hear our company name pronounced five different ways, even though the DT instructs the proper pronunciation. But it’s a made-up name so my customer are always confused on pronunciation themselves. From: Af On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:25 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus I would add that Layne’s service is only as good as the decision tree that you provide to him. The more detailed DT, the better the service will be. From: Layne Sisk Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus I would like to share some solid stats with the group. Please see those below. The comment about a decline is hard to address without looking at stats. Kind of like the user that calls you and vaguely says “My internet seems slow” when you have stats that show they are getting more than they are paying for. We have hired a number of new people recently because we have grown and have added a new office but as Justin said this is a slow time of the year so we also took advantage of this time to get rid of some of our weaker performers. Here are the company wide stats for the past week with some comments about them, I would stack these up against any call center in the world. Sorry if I come on strong, but as you all know this is my baby and I care a lot about it just like you do about your networks. I know we are not perfect, out of 6000 calls I am sure we made a mistake or two and I am happy to address any individual issue directly, but I am pretty proud of what we do. OFFICE STATS SP GOAL Comment AVERAGE TALK TIME 0:11:05 0:10:00 Down from over 13 min 2 months ago TOTAL TALK TIME VS SCHEDULED 69.94
Re: [AFMUG] More important things
Where is the looming towers? Don't tell me hulu, i pay enough already. Yah, I need to get off here and start watching my Sunday night tv. :) - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 5:08 PM Subject: [AFMUG] More important things So tonight is big for TV. Billions Barry Silicon Valley Any others? Of course Homeland. And if like Homeland, you will probably also like The Looming Towers. I read the book years ago. Book was dry and academic. The TV show is pretty good.
Re: [AFMUG] Test test
Plumbing analogy... lol [3/25/2018@8:53pm] - Original Message - From: Bill Prince To: af@afmug.com ; Seth Mattinen Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Test test Whole grunch of messages just slipped through. Maybe the blockage has been cleared? Sent 2018-03-25 14:27 PDT. bp On 3/25/2018 1:54 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 3/22/18 14:18, Jon Lee wrote: >> Test 7:43PM (AZ Time 3/18/18) > > > I think it's getting slower. The delay used to be hours, now it's > several days. > > Sent on Thu Mar 22 14:27:21 PDT 2018
Re: [AFMUG] Test
ohh ohhh catching up (replied sun 3/25/18 @ 8:45 pm) - Original Message - From: Forrest Christian (List Account) To: af Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 4:16 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Test Sun 917a
Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
I agree with this statement. We've seen both (well running and NOT well running) 3/25/2018 @ 8:42 pm :) - Original Message - From: Matt Hoppes To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus Interesting point. We are at 1,000 subs I and I just did this economic model. I don’t have 24x7 support. But do have 9-9. With a well running network support calls are near nothing. I took the money I was going to pay SP and hired staff. Now I have people who do phones and other things. On Mar 25, 2018, at 06:32, Lewis Bergman wrote: I would say that if you want local pronunciations of words you should run your open tech support. I don't think most people care. They are normally happy just to have someone speak English that they can understand. Until you get about 8000 subs I doubt you can do it anywhere close to the cost that Lane can. On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ "IN-DE GO" :) On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: It’s In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go. Like a butchered version of the six fingered man. On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds wrote: That's how it's pronounced... Maybe a regional thing? On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes" wrote: GTC does this too. I don’t know why it’s so hard. The company I used to work for was “Indigo Wireless”. They always say In Dee Go. On Mar 11, 2018, at 14:50, Sterling Jacobson wrote: They are working well for us, and I have a horrible generic support DT, lol! I have had zero complaints from my customers so far this year, so I think they are doing well. The only feedback I’ve had is customers hear our company name pronounced five different ways, even though the DT instructs the proper pronunciation. But it’s a made-up name so my customer are always confused on pronunciation themselves. From: Af On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:25 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus I would add that Layne’s service is only as good as the decision tree that you provide to him. The more detailed DT, the better the service will be. From: Layne Sisk Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus I would like to share some solid stats with the group. Please see those below. The comment about a decline is hard to address without looking at stats. Kind of like the user that calls you and vaguely says “My internet seems slow” when you have stats that show they are getting more than they are paying for. We have hired a number of new people recently because we have grown and have added a new office but as Justin said this is a slow time of the year so we also took advantage of this time to get rid of some of our weaker performers. Here are the company wide stats for the past week with some comments about them, I would stack these up against any call center in the world. Sorry if I come on strong, but as you all know this is my baby and I care a lot about it just like you do about your networks. I know we are not perfect, out of 6000 calls I am sure we made a mistake or two and I am happy to address any individual issue directly, but I am pretty proud of what we do. OFFICE STATS SP GOAL Comment AVERAGE TALK TIME 0:11:05 0:10:00 Down from over 13 min 2 months ago TOTAL TALK TIME VS SCHEDULED 69.94% 80% This is agent utilization SURVEY SCORE 91.66% 95% 91.66% of callers would recommend the service That is a number any company would kill for SURVEY TAKEN 20.57% 20% A full 20% of callers responded to our survey, that number is unheard of TECH ESCALATION
Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
I would certainly disagree with that. If someone does not know how to pronounce our community names it would 100% tick me off and clue me into knowing whomever I'm talking to is not here... - Original Message - From: Lewis Bergman To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 5:32 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus I would say that if you want local pronunciations of words you should run your open tech support. I don't think most people care. They are normally happy just to have someone speak English that they can understand. Until you get about 8000 subs I doubt you can do it anywhere close to the cost that Lane can. On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ "IN-DE GO" :) On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: It’s In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go. Like a butchered version of the six fingered man. On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds wrote: That's how it's pronounced... Maybe a regional thing? On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes" wrote: GTC does this too. I don’t know why it’s so hard. The company I used to work for was “Indigo Wireless”. They always say In Dee Go. On Mar 11, 2018, at 14:50, Sterling Jacobson wrote: They are working well for us, and I have a horrible generic support DT, lol! I have had zero complaints from my customers so far this year, so I think they are doing well. The only feedback I’ve had is customers hear our company name pronounced five different ways, even though the DT instructs the proper pronunciation. But it’s a made-up name so my customer are always confused on pronunciation themselves. From: Af On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:25 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus I would add that Layne’s service is only as good as the decision tree that you provide to him. The more detailed DT, the better the service will be. From: Layne Sisk Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus I would like to share some solid stats with the group. Please see those below. The comment about a decline is hard to address without looking at stats. Kind of like the user that calls you and vaguely says “My internet seems slow” when you have stats that show they are getting more than they are paying for. We have hired a number of new people recently because we have grown and have added a new office but as Justin said this is a slow time of the year so we also took advantage of this time to get rid of some of our weaker performers. Here are the company wide stats for the past week with some comments about them, I would stack these up against any call center in the world. Sorry if I come on strong, but as you all know this is my baby and I care a lot about it just like you do about your networks. I know we are not perfect, out of 6000 calls I am sure we made a mistake or two and I am happy to address any individual issue directly, but I am pretty proud of what we do. OFFICE STATS SP GOAL Comment AVERAGE TALK TIME 0:11:05 0:10:00 Down from over 13 min 2 months ago TOTAL TALK TIME VS SCHEDULED 69.94% 80% This is agent utilization SURVEY SCORE 91.66% 95% 91.66% of callers would recommend the service That is a number any company would kill for SURVEY TAKEN 20.57% 20% A full 20% of callers responded to our survey, that number is unheard of TECH ESCALATION 39.31% 20% Higher escalation percentage this week because of the storms and significant network outages ESCALATION APPROVAL TIME 0:11:47 0:10:00
Re: [AFMUG] Down tilt for 450i
Has anyone run both kp and cambium? I'd be curious about a comparison [posted Sun 3/25 @ 12:34 pm] - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard To: af Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 4:39 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Down tilt for 450i That KPP sector actually is dual slant... I think we have one of those up, it should have a bit wider beam than the Cambium sectors, but it seemed to me like it performed about the same otherwise. On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 4:57 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: I agree we should be looking at dual slant. I think I'll revisit our design - Original Message - From: Colin Stanners To: af@afmug.com Cc: memb...@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Down tilt for 450i Are you setting up all of your 900mhz 450I to be dual-pol instead of dual-slant? That simplifies procuring antennas but is not to Cambium standard. It depends how flat the ground around you is, but at that distance the downtilt will usually be zero. On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:03 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: We're putting up a KP Performance KPPA-900DP-90S for use with the 900 MHz 450i APs. How much down tilt would you use to serve customers up to 7 miles away? It has zero electrical down tilt
Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: 8 hours no lunch
sounds about right. posting this 3/18 (Sunday) at 4:50 local time (cst) Do we need to "turn it off and back on again" ? - Original Message - From: Seth Mattinen To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: 8 hours no lunch On 3/16/18 3:28 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 3/15/18 7:48 AM, Carl Peterson wrote: >> How is that thing attached to the door? > > > Probably an HMI with bezel larger than the hole. Sent this on 3/15/18 at 07:50 pacific time, just now seeing it hit the list on the 16th at 13:50
Re: [AFMUG] Down tilt for 450i
I agree we should be looking at dual slant. I think I'll revisit our design - Original Message - From: Colin Stanners To: af@afmug.com Cc: memb...@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Down tilt for 450i Are you setting up all of your 900mhz 450I to be dual-pol instead of dual-slant? That simplifies procuring antennas but is not to Cambium standard. It depends how flat the ground around you is, but at that distance the downtilt will usually be zero. On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:03 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: We're putting up a KP Performance KPPA-900DP-90S for use with the 900 MHz 450i APs. How much down tilt would you use to serve customers up to 7 miles away? It has zero electrical down tilt
Re: [AFMUG] testing
Fail Sent from my smartphone - Reply message - From: "Darin Steffl" To: Subject: [AFMUG] testing Date: Fri, Mar 16, 2018 4:17 PM I've seen both your emails from yesterday and responded to one of them. On Mar 15, 2018 8:32 AM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote:I posted two items and they haven't made to list in two days. Must be Russians or Aliens. Jaime Solorza On Wed, Mar 14, 2018, 4:21 AM Justin Marshall wrote: testing
Re: [AFMUG] The things in Slack...
ok, i posted this like 2 pm yesterday - Original Message - From: CBB - Jay Fuller To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The things in Slack... i'd select young hot college townsmaybefor 1000 alex? lol - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 3:11 PM Subject: [AFMUG] The things in Slack... Someone posted a link to this, "https://www.thewisp.com/pages/bjs"; The page header is, "WISP Training Video for BJ's". Apparently I haven't been installing in the right neighborhoods. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP
Re: [AFMUG] something ain't right
so - disreguard - cambium actually got back to me before this message even posted to the list. good job cambium! - Original Message - From: CBB - Jay Fuller To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 4:12 PM Subject: something ain't right we just hooked up two new pmp450i (eh, they were from ebay) - but one came up as a 3 gig subscriber module. the radios both look like 900 mhz access points the weird radio came up as mac 0a-00-3e-45-19-89 i have no idea how we did not catch this before it went to the tower Can someone tell me how to confirm what kind of device this is? Is there some kind of weird issue known that might cause this? Thank you, Jay Fuller Cyber Broadband Inc
[AFMUG] something ain't right
we just hooked up two new pmp450i (eh, they were from ebay) - but one came up as a 3 gig subscriber module. the radios both look like 900 mhz access points the weird radio came up as mac 0a-00-3e-45-19-89 i have no idea how we did not catch this before it went to the tower Can someone tell me how to confirm what kind of device this is? Is there some kind of weird issue known that might cause this? Thank you, Jay Fuller Cyber Broadband Inc
Re: [AFMUG] The things in Slack...
i'd select young hot college townsmaybefor 1000 alex? lol - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 3:11 PM Subject: [AFMUG] The things in Slack... Someone posted a link to this, "https://www.thewisp.com/pages/bjs"; The page header is, "WISP Training Video for BJ's". Apparently I haven't been installing in the right neighborhoods. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP
Re: [AFMUG] ubnt - rese
only works in fixed frame mode for now... - Original Message - From: CBB - Jay Fuller To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, March 9, 2018 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ubnt - rese I moved to 8.5.1, where is this feature? - Original Message - From: Joe Novak To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ubnt - rese I've had it running on a sector array since the beta. I don't know that I have a good measure of how it's working, but, it's not generating support calls. Joe On Mar 8, 2018 9:11 AM, "Keefe John" wrote: This has been or in beta for awhile. It works well, especially on uplink. Keefe On March 8, 2018 8:37:05 AM CST, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: Custom code to better nagivate interference released today in airmax ac products I don't remember seeing this in the beta line...anyone played with it? Sent from my smartphone -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] ubnt - rese
I moved to 8.5.1, where is this feature? - Original Message - From: Joe Novak To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ubnt - rese I've had it running on a sector array since the beta. I don't know that I have a good measure of how it's working, but, it's not generating support calls. Joe On Mar 8, 2018 9:11 AM, "Keefe John" wrote: This has been or in beta for awhile. It works well, especially on uplink. Keefe On March 8, 2018 8:37:05 AM CST, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: Custom code to better nagivate interference released today in airmax ac products I don't remember seeing this in the beta line...anyone played with it? Sent from my smartphone -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] It's on
Is the chuck-o-rama still in biz? Hard to come to slc and talk fiber without eating there Weekley and I found out the week we spent with you a few summers ago I don't miss those Motel 6 beds lol Sent from my smartphone - Reply message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: Subject: [AFMUG] It's on Date: Thu, Mar 8, 2018 12:29 PM June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to sponsor. Going to start to put together the agenda. Very short sessions like always. Need the crowd to evolve this thing. Day 1: Fiber theory, channels, band plan SFPs Passive mux CWDM DWDM FTTH network topology GPON AE Pros and cons OSP Network Components Costs and Features Cable Conduit Handholes Splice Cases Splitters Cabinets Cross boxes Electronics Powering and cooling Fiber Splicing Connectors Engineering considerations Costs NOC MT FTTH in a box solution Day 2: Hands On HDD operations Vacuum Excavators Hole Hawg and other missiles Underground location Eating mass quantities of dead animals.
Re: [AFMUG] OT where to eat
It was in Birmingham i believe Sent from my smartphone - Reply message - From: "Jaime Solorza" To: "Animal Farm" Subject: [AFMUG] OT where to eat Date: Thu, Mar 8, 2018 9:36 AM Bet you won't find this in Birmingham!! Jaime Solorza On Mon, Mar 5, 2018, 9:30 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: Just got back from pappadeux. Good cajun seafood. Not cheap. 15-20min drive. On Mar 5, 2018 8:35 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: Pappadeux or Texas de Brasil says my younger brother who travels through there allot. Waffle House great for breakfast Jaime Solorza On Mar 5, 2018 6:19 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: In BHM Sheraton. Where to eat?
[AFMUG] Aircube
You can tweak it with umns Can you change settings using tr069 or snmp? Are they any good? Anyone playing with them? Sent from my smartphone
Re: [AFMUG] Ubnt - fiber
That should be fun :) Sent from my smartphone - Reply message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: Subject: [AFMUG] Ubnt - fiber Date: Thu, Mar 8, 2018 8:37 AM I will be having an AE vs GPON shootout discussion at AF this summer. From: Cassidy B. Larson Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 7:28 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubnt - fiber They announced it two wispapalooza shows ago I think.. started shipping a year ago or so? They support a bunch of different OLTs: https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/115009335068-UFiber-GPON-Supported-Third-Party-OLTs On Mar 8, 2018, at 7:25 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: When did they add like an entire product line? Is any of it standards / complaint / compatible with anything else? I don't hear anyone talking about this stuff.. Sent from my smartphone
[AFMUG] ubnt - rese
Custom code to better nagivate interference released today in airmax ac products I don't remember seeing this in the beta line...anyone played with it? Sent from my smartphone
Re: [AFMUG] Ubnt - fiber
"soon" :) Sent from my smartphone - Reply message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: Subject: [AFMUG] Ubnt - fiber Date: Thu, Mar 8, 2018 8:27 AM Lots of toys. I have heard of it recently. Looks like a $49 ONT? No IPV6 support Really? From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 7:25 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Ubnt - fiber When did they add like an entire product line? Is any of it standards / complaint / compatible with anything else? I don't hear anyone talking about this stuff.. Sent from my smartphone
[AFMUG] Ubnt - fiber
When did they add like an entire product line? Is any of it standards / complaint / compatible with anything else? I don't hear anyone talking about this stuff.. Sent from my smartphone
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 3000
2.4 will be available eventually...probably within a year. Wonder if it will also be backwards compatible with current epmp 2.4i don't see why not Sent from my smartphone - Reply message - From: "Joe Novak" To: Subject: [AFMUG] Epmp 3000 Date: Wed, Mar 7, 2018 9:11 AM Mu-mimo will not work with n based radios, but besides that they will work with the new AP is how I took it. On Mar 7, 2018 9:04 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" wrote: Coming soon Roughly doubles available throughout on ap If I heard right won't work with elevate Ac based chipset Haven't heard frequencies or available dates yet Sent from my smartphone
[AFMUG] Epmp 3000
Coming soon Roughly doubles available throughout on ap If I heard right won't work with elevate Ac based chipset Haven't heard frequencies or available dates yet Sent from my smartphone
[AFMUG] Ot: homeland
After watching tonight's episode I find it very interesting they are tying the narrative right into what is happening in our country right now with fake news When you have seen the episode comment we will discuss Sent from my smartphone
Re: [AFMUG] Google Drive - More
google can't survive off your $1.99 / month chump change. they want your $10 lol - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 3:26 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Google Drive - More So, I buy the 130 GB for $1.99/month It has been complaining that I am running out of room and need to upgrade to the $10/month plan. Been working on whittling down the amount of useless crap I am hording there. I kept noticing that if I do properties of the folder where I have it stored on a D: drive it shows 75 MB but Google claims almost twice that. I discovered that if you delete a file, that file does not come off of your usage total. You have to go to Google Drive in a browser, go into the trash folder and click the delete all trash button. However if you have a bazillion files in there it does not want to cooperate. I think I am getting it to work on my cell phone. But the computer just sits and spins.
Re: [AFMUG] Typical Cell Tower bandwidth requirement
so they are transport? - Original Message - From: Jesse DuPont To: Animal Farm Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Typical Cell Tower bandwidth requirement At my telco day job, we have several circuits to cell sites; most are 100-200 Mbps capacity on 1G phy, but they all aggregate to a pair of GigE waves to their MSC. Rural north-central Wyoming. Jesse DuPont Network Architect email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net Celerity Networks LLC Celerity Broadband LLC Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc Like us! facebook.com/celeritybroadband On 3/2/18 9:48 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: The information he has is probably four years old. They're moving to dark fiber or tubes of dark fiber. A Sprint tower can move 1.3 gigs, with some doing more. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Kurt Fankhauser" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 9:03:07 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Typical Cell Tower bandwidth requirement I was talking to a Spectrum employee yesterday as he was installing a 1gig fiber circuit for me and he started talking about how un-common it was to be seeing a 1 gig DIA circuit installed so i said well what about the cell phone towers, don't those all have a couple gigs to them and he said. "Oh no those usually only have 100meg fiber feeds to them." I was like whoa, thats all? And he said "yeah all the Sprint, T-mobile, and At&T towers that he's been to are all like 100meg and he's like usually the Verizon ones are about 300meg circuits." Does that really sound possible that a cell tower is only using that much bandwidth? We are pretty rural here county population is only 45,000 and the city populations are only about 12,000. Can this really be true? And if so why can't a WISP sell a backup circuit to a cell tower with some Air Fiber equipment?
Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet
Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet You are correct sir. - Original Message - From: Mark - Myakka Technologies To: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet CBB, Wrong Mark -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com -- Thursday, March 1, 2018, 4:06:20 PM, you wrote: Toledo Ohio? Aren't you in FL? :) - Original Message - From: Mark Radabaugh To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet I liked when the lieutenant at the Toledo police department called us up and threatened to come out and shut down our 2.4 AP’s because we were supposedly interfering with their ill conceived plan to use WiFi to communicate with police cars all over town. Pretty laughable given that we didn’t have anything in their jurisdiction - or even any 2.4 in use. Mark On Mar 1, 2018, at 12:47 PM, Bill Prince wrote: Down south they call it "All hat, and no cattle." bp On 3/1/2018 8:51 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: Yeah, it would be nice to see a ruling to stop this from happening again in the future... but my guess is that it's really just an empty threat, and he has no intention of actually suing anybody. On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:27 AM, Steve Jones wrote: I think this is worth pushing to the nth. I like caselaw, fresh caselaw that stiffens historic caselaw. I would really like to see at the end of the day, the letter recipients divvying up airebeams assets with some sanctions against the attorneys office. We should do a gofundme in the industry for the recipients to afford the litigation, no settlement, no dismissal, make it get to a ruling. where johnny Cochran On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: I wonder how often this kind of thing works to just scare people off though... I assume they'd eventually lose an actual lawsuit, but even if the new guys know that, there's a good chance that they're not going to want to go through the whole mess of getting sued, and just try to keep out of their way. Personally, I think asking nicely to try to avoid interfering with the stuff you have up would be a lot more effective... On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 9:48 AM, wrote: Any local judge would be preempted by FCC. From: Steve Jones Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 7:20 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet Yeah, that letter isnt about fcc stuff, its about willfully impeding and incumbants operations. This fcc talk os what theyre probably expecting the people to focus on, but thats not their target. This could be interesting to see play out, hopefully it does end up in court just to get fresh caselaw. The new operators in the area may suffer a bit if injunctions are in play, but if they weather it, theyll win, probably get some time and trouble dough in their pockets too. On Mar 1, 2018 7:42 AM, "Chris Fabien" wrote: They can't stop you, but they can sue you! Can sue anybody for anything in this country right? In reality, I think the real answer is, the FCC rules on unlicensed freqs and how a judge might interpret a case for damages due to lost business due to provable radio interference, may be two totally different situations. On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 8:13 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Send them the Part 15 rules...they can't stop you. Jaime Solorza On Feb 28, 2018 9:26 PM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: We cover one of the areas with Airebeam and we can’t install over their old customers fast enough. Ken is backed up at least 3 times what we are backed up. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 9:12 PM To: af@afmu
Re: [AFMUG] Introduction
Welcome! Sent from my smartphone - Reply message - From: "Jon Lee" To: Subject: [AFMUG] Introduction Date: Thu, Mar 1, 2018 9:43 PM Evening all, I have been lurking in the shadows for the past couple of weeks. Just wanted to introduce myself and say that the amount of knowledge gained over that time alone (and reading some of the archives) has been helpful. I will try to contribute where I can, (fairly new in the space). My background in tech started in the USMC as a 7236 (Air Control Electronics Operator) basically a network guy, and now I manage a WISP in the Prescott, AZ area. I recently started my own company that will focus outside of the area that I manage. Looking forward to growing and gaining knowledge in the community. Thanks! -Jon -- Jon LeeOff-Grid Networks c.928.793.2972
Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet
Toledo Ohio? Aren't you in FL? :) - Original Message - From: Mark Radabaugh To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet I liked when the lieutenant at the Toledo police department called us up and threatened to come out and shut down our 2.4 AP’s because we were supposedly interfering with their ill conceived plan to use WiFi to communicate with police cars all over town. Pretty laughable given that we didn’t have anything in their jurisdiction - or even any 2.4 in use. Mark On Mar 1, 2018, at 12:47 PM, Bill Prince wrote: Down south they call it "All hat, and no cattle." bp On 3/1/2018 8:51 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: Yeah, it would be nice to see a ruling to stop this from happening again in the future... but my guess is that it's really just an empty threat, and he has no intention of actually suing anybody. On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:27 AM, Steve Jones wrote: I think this is worth pushing to the nth. I like caselaw, fresh caselaw that stiffens historic caselaw. I would really like to see at the end of the day, the letter recipients divvying up airebeams assets with some sanctions against the attorneys office. We should do a gofundme in the industry for the recipients to afford the litigation, no settlement, no dismissal, make it get to a ruling. where johnny Cochran On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: I wonder how often this kind of thing works to just scare people off though... I assume they'd eventually lose an actual lawsuit, but even if the new guys know that, there's a good chance that they're not going to want to go through the whole mess of getting sued, and just try to keep out of their way. Personally, I think asking nicely to try to avoid interfering with the stuff you have up would be a lot more effective... On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 9:48 AM, wrote: Any local judge would be preempted by FCC. From: Steve Jones Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 7:20 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet Yeah, that letter isnt about fcc stuff, its about willfully impeding and incumbants operations. This fcc talk os what theyre probably expecting the people to focus on, but thats not their target. This could be interesting to see play out, hopefully it does end up in court just to get fresh caselaw. The new operators in the area may suffer a bit if injunctions are in play, but if they weather it, theyll win, probably get some time and trouble dough in their pockets too. On Mar 1, 2018 7:42 AM, "Chris Fabien" wrote: They can't stop you, but they can sue you! Can sue anybody for anything in this country right? In reality, I think the real answer is, the FCC rules on unlicensed freqs and how a judge might interpret a case for damages due to lost business due to provable radio interference, may be two totally different situations. On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 8:13 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Send them the Part 15 rules...they can't stop you. Jaime Solorza On Feb 28, 2018 9:26 PM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: We cover one of the areas with Airebeam and we can’t install over their old customers fast enough. Ken is backed up at least 3 times what we are backed up. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 9:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet all you need to know about this outfit " Today is a Great Day! I cancelled my Airebeam account and switched to another company. This company has the worst customer service. They also have horrible internet service. They are very unresponsive when there is an issue. (and if they did respond, they always blamed the router.) In my opinion, Greg does not take the responsibility of owning a business and providing quality seriously. Follow up note: When Steven (installer) contacted me to pick up equipment, he stated equipment that wasn't even theirs. He then proceeded to yell at me. I explained to him that he was never to contact me again. The owner, instead of finding a solution, threatened to file theft charges. I am more than happy to return their equipment, but I don't have to put up with their abusive employees." https://www.yelp.com/biz/airebeam-arizona-city not that BBB is legit, but there is this https://www.bbb.org/phoenix/business-reviews/internet-providers/airebeam-broadband-in-arizona-cit
[AFMUG] 3.65 NN license available - final notice
Just a friendly reminder.as this auction is about to end in about an hour. As many of you have heard, we recently discovered we had a spare 3.65 license. We have decided to put this up for auction for the next seven days. If you need a 3.65 license, go bid on this. Good luck! https://www.ebay.com/itm/NN-License-LICENSING-FOR-THE-3-65-3-70-GHZ-SPECTRUM/222848486692
Re: [AFMUG] OT VPN over PPPOE
I'd like to be a fly on the wall when you explain that to him lol - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT VPN over PPPOE Thanks From: Colin Stanners Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 5:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT VPN over PPPOE Very likely MTU/fragmentation issue. If you're using PPPoE you have a smaller MTU (1480 / 1492 bytes), some badly configured VPN endpoints may not accept fragmentation that is necessary on packets below 1500. On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 6:06 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Had a customer that works from home. Could not make his VPN work. We thought perhaps it was a port issue. Opened the ports on the Smart RG. No good. He spend $150 over the weekend on a geek squad type of service and they pointed their finger at us. So, just because we haven’t tried it, we switched him to DHCP and it started working. We are in the process of converting everyone to DHCP. He wants a credit in the amount of the money he paid the geek squad. Wonder if it was truly our fault. Still don’t know why it started working or what the problem was.
[AFMUG] Just a friendly reminder......3.65 license available
As many of you have heard, we recently discovered we had a spare 3.65 license. We have decided to put this up for auction for the next seven days. If you need a 3.65 license, go bid on this. Good luck! https://www.ebay.com/itm/NN-License-LICENSING-FOR-THE-3-65-3-70-GHZ-SPECTRUM/222848486692
Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 license available
hah, i'd get cold!! - Original Message - From: Colin Stanners To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 license available Do you ship to Canada? :-) On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:26 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: As many of you have heard, we recently discovered we had a spare 3.65 license. We have decided to put this up for auction for the next seven days. If you need a 3.65 license, go bid on this. Good luck! https://www.ebay.com/itm/NN-License-LICENSING-FOR-THE-3-65-3-70-GHZ-SPECTRUM/222848486692
Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 license available
until mid 2020 - Original Message - From: TJ Trout To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 license available Aren't they only good for a few more months? On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 10:26 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: As many of you have heard, we recently discovered we had a spare 3.65 license. We have decided to put this up for auction for the next seven days. If you need a 3.65 license, go bid on this. Good luck! https://www.ebay.com/itm/NN-License-LICENSING-FOR-THE-3-65-3-70-GHZ-SPECTRUM/222848486692
Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 license available
Seems to be a high demand on WISP TALK on facebook ; just wanted to post everywhere someone might be interested - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard To: af Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 license available Two more years... and there's no way to legally use 3.65ghz without one at present. On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 3:40 PM, TJ Trout wrote: Aren't they only good for a few more months? On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 10:26 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: As many of you have heard, we recently discovered we had a spare 3.65 license. We have decided to put this up for auction for the next seven days. If you need a 3.65 license, go bid on this. Good luck! https://www.ebay.com/itm/NN-License-LICENSING-FOR-THE-3-65-3-70-GHZ-SPECTRUM/222848486692
[AFMUG] 3.65 license available
As many of you have heard, we recently discovered we had a spare 3.65 license. We have decided to put this up for auction for the next seven days. If you need a 3.65 license, go bid on this. Good luck! https://www.ebay.com/itm/NN-License-LICENSING-FOR-THE-3-65-3-70-GHZ-SPECTRUM/222848486692
Re: [AFMUG] To good to be true... it was...
what a scary subject linei thought moviepass had died. - Original Message - From: TJ Trout To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] To good to be true... it was... You sound like a paranoid flat earther :) On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Robert wrote: Could be phoning home, but now I've got s/w trying to phone into my DNS servers... On 2/18/18 8:04 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: You sure it is not just the camera phoning home for a software update? -Original Message- From: Robert Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 8:43 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] To good to be true... it was... Frick'n peoples republic. So I bought a couple of those $300 PTZ cameras. & my monitoring system saw some attempts to intrude from inside my network. So I am now on the alert and when the cameras start up I see some traffic when there shouldn't be. It's the cameras reaching out from the 10 net... To this address Now I have to consider part of my core compromised... whois 112.124.0.188 # # ARIN WHOIS data and services are subject to the Terms of Use # available at: https://www.arin.net/whois_tou.html # # If you see inaccuracies in the results, please report at # https://www.arin.net/public/whoisinaccuracy/index.xhtml # # # Query terms are ambiguous. The query is assumed to be: # "n 112.124.0.188" # # Use "?" to get help. # # # The following results may also be obtained via: # https://whois.arin.net/rest/nets;q=112.124.0.188?showDetails=true&showARIN=false&showNonArinTopLevelNet=false&ext=netref2 # NetRange: 112.0.0.0 - 112.255.255.255 CIDR: 112.0.0.0/8 NetName:APNIC-112 NetHandle: NET-112-0-0-0-1 Parent: () NetType:Allocated to APNIC OriginAS: Organization: Asia Pacific Network Information Centre (APNIC) RegDate:2008-05-26 Updated:2010-07-30 Comment:This IP address range is not registered in the ARIN database. Comment:For details, refer to the APNIC Whois Database via Comment:WHOIS.APNIC.NET or http://wq.apnic.net/apnic-bin/whois.pl Comment:** IMPORTANT NOTE: APNIC is the Regional Internet Registry Comment:for the Asia Pacific region. APNIC does not operate networks Comment:using this IP address range and is not able to investigate Comment:spam or abuse reports relating to these addresses. For more Comment:help, refer to http://www.apnic.net/apnic-info/whois_search2/abuse-and-spamming Ref:https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-112-0-0-0-1 ResourceLink: http://wq.apnic.net/whois-search/static/search.html ResourceLink: whois.apnic.net OrgName:Asia Pacific Network Information Centre OrgId: APNIC Address:PO Box 3646 City: South Brisbane StateProv: QLD PostalCode: 4101 Country:AU RegDate: Updated:2012-01-24 Ref:https://whois.arin.net/rest/org/APNIC ReferralServer: whois://whois.apnic.net ResourceLink: http://wq.apnic.net/whois-search/static/search.html OrgTechHandle: AWC12-ARIN OrgTechName: APNIC Whois Contact OrgTechPhone: +61 7 3858 3188 OrgTechEmail: search-apnic-not-a...@apnic.net OrgTechRef:https://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/AWC12-ARIN OrgAbuseHandle: AWC12-ARIN OrgAbuseName: APNIC Whois Contact OrgAbusePhone: +61 7 3858 3188 OrgAbuseEmail: search-apnic-not-a...@apnic.net OrgAbuseRef:https://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/AWC12-ARIN # # ARIN WHOIS data and services are subject to the Terms of Use # available at: https://www.arin.net/whois_tou.html # # If you see inaccuracies in the results, please report at # https://www.arin.net/public/whoisinaccuracy/index.xhtml # % [whois.apnic.net] % Whois data copyright termshttp://www.apnic.net/db/dbcopyright.html % Information related to '112.124.0.0 - 112.127.255.255' % Abuse contact for '112.124.0.0 - 112.127.255.255' is 'i...@cnnic.cn' inetnum:112.124.0.0 - 112.127.255.255 netname:ALISOFT descr: Aliyun Computing Co., LTD descr: 5F, Builing D, the West Lake International Plaza of S&T descr: No.391 Wen'er Road, Hangzhou, Zhejiang, China, 310099 country:CN admin-c:ZM1015-AP tech-c: ZM877-AP tech-c: ZM876-AP tech-c: ZM875-AP mnt-by: MAINT-CNNIC-AP mnt-irt:IRT-CNNIC-C
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
sounds similar to a two-day CEO roundtablei likei like - Original Message - From: SmarterBroadband To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I will be there (as long as dates are free)….. Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 8:01 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I am not sure we will have large crowds as in the past to justify the fairpark venue. I am thinking that original hotel conference room where we held the first one. I have modified the afmug.com page a bit reflecting that something is going to happen. All but the home page. I cannot find that in the wordpress back end. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:52 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I've for a while thinking than an 'unconference' or 'open space conference' or 'barcamp' would be interesting. The WISPA conferences aren't really set up well to handle this type of thing. Ideally you'd end up in a space with a 'common area' and then breakout rooms/areas. The first 20 minutes are people standing up and suggesting topics to discuss, and putting those topics on an agenda board claming a space and a time. For smaller groups, a single room works where you claim time on the agenda. For larger groups, you of course need more space since there tends to be more things people want to discuss than there is time on the agenda. In the latter case, the person suggesting the topic ends up leading it in the space they've claimed in the timeslot assigned. I sure wouldn't mind showing up at a hotel room somewhere in Utah for something like this I also wouldn't mind taking the leadership role during the initial 20 minutes to facilitate the topic 'selection' process (which if done correctly isn't really as much a selection process as a self-organizing process). On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, TJ Trout wrote: Chuck, I like the idea of bringing it back to the roots, no real firm plan, just play around with some stuff? TJ On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Red Iguana We could do it kinda like it started. Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a hotel conference room and whoever shows up shows up. Not sure what Wispa would think about that... From: Cameron Crum Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Jay Weekley" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year. Chuck McCown wrote: > It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the process > down. But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they > think that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica. > Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other... > So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track. Same format as before. > Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff. And I > don’t have to do much other than MC the event. > *From:* TJ Trout > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > Chuck, > How feasible would it be to bring AF back to Utah and outsource the > unpalatable parts of planning? > Obviously the cost would go up per person? Once you broke it off into > wispa I haven't attended since... > Maybe I should give it a shot, you will be having a AF group @ > wispamerica in 20 days? > TJ > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Faisal Imtiaz > wrote: > > >>My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect... > Thus the need for a fuse ! > :) > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > http://www.snappytelecom.net > >
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
actually i distinctly remember a "MOTORLA" and "MOTOROLA II" list... LOL - Original Message - From: Chuck Hogg To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Yes, before I was on the Board at WISPA, they had hosted "manufacturer" listservs. Chuck, was the moderator of the list for "motorola" at the time, and his list was moved over. I wanted to host a MikroTik@ list, as I was a vendor at the time for WISPA. That's when sh!t hit the fan, some other distributors got butthurt, and WISPA decided that the motorola list wasn't Chuck M's, and the MikroTik list wasn't mine anymore. I notified Chuck M of the pending issues and how my list was getting ripped from under me...and before WISPA could notify Chuck M that his list was going to be taken over, Chuck M converted it to the AFMUG list, shut down the motorola@wispa list and the AFMUG list was born. A...the memories :) Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, George Skorup wrote: Yes, Michael Anderson. He got pissed about the OT stuff on the motorola@ list. IIRC, shortly after the I QUIT incident, the list server went down and he said it was a h/w failure (while out of town? I don't remember if that was the case) and finally brought it back up. But it was too late and AFMUG was born. More accurately, the "Motorola II" list was born, and I believe that was hosted for a short time on the WISPA list serv? I think the combination of WISPAmerica and Animal Farm is great. On 2/13/2018 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got here…. The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to WISPA. Can’t recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the organization. One day Michael was mad about something and posted the infamous “I quit” email - and that was pretty much the end of Part 15 and the list. I actually think that was during a Animal Farm session if I recall correctly. Chuck took over the list after that - I don’t think it was called AFMUG at the time, but it later became that. Might have even been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic anyway. There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on. Yes - it’s Chuck’s list though occasionally the members donate money for the cost of hosting it. This list has it’s advantages. It’s membership leans toward a group of people who have known each other for a very long time. You probably shouldn’t say bad things about WBMfg products (makes Chuck get all kranky) but everybody else if fair game. I like it since it’s a place I can say things I can’t really say with a WISPA hat on (or at least I can’t say without blowback to WISPA). Mark On Feb 13, 2018, at 2:13 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Fair warning, Forrest has spam rights too... -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list about once a year. You do realize that this list is my list, right? So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp. Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? That will prevent it from ever happening again. -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in extremely poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. Jared
[AFMUG] .........Fw: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on the Trango List
is this the one? a few messages later i see messages like this - To: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 2:55 PM Subject: Part-15 list Are you having problems posting to the list? I'm getting bounce messages when I try, and it even bounced when I tried to email bullit directly. Here is the message: Invalid final delivery userid: motor...@part-15.org --- - Original Message - From: Bullit To: motor...@part-15.org Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 10:22 AM Subject: RE: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on the Trango List LOL, you really hate the list traffic compared to a forum. I'll commend you on your steadfast devotion. Michael -Original Message- From: motorola-ow...@part-15.org [mailto:motorola-ow...@part-15.org] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:18 AM To: motor...@part-15.org Subject: RE: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on the Trango List Maybe I'm not the only one, but when a thread like this starts up I just read a couple of words to get the gist and then dump it. So you all do whatever it is you think is necessary, but the community/list will live on in whatever form (hopefully a forum mode next time, LOL!) -Original Message- From: motorola-ow...@part-15.org [mailto:motorola-ow...@part-15.org] On Behalf Of Bullit Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 8:30 AM To: motor...@part-15.org Subject: [Motorola] I QUIT - This should be on the Trango List Do you all want all the lists to be free? If so, I'll close up PART-15.ORG and you all can do whatever you want. I'm sick of all this B.S. If you don't want to support PART-15.ORG then don't and GO AWAY. Start your own damn lists somewhere else because PART-15.ORG will just fade away which appears to be what you guys want and I have no problem with that idea. And you know what Chuck, if people like Charles Wu would ever pay his bills/debts that he owes PART-15.ORG maybe he could get back on the lists. As far as the others go, the hell with them as far as I'm concerned. They don't want to support PART-15.ORG so why the hell should I let them in for free? B.S. I'm fed up folks. Michael -Original Message- From: motorola-ow...@part-15.org [mailto:motorola-ow...@part-15.org] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 9:16 AM To: motor...@part-15.org Subject: Re: [Motorola] This should be on the Trango List Trango is still a free list. No so moto. - Original Message - From: "Michael Handiboe" To: Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [Motorola] This should be on the Trango List > Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: >> I can think of more than 5 that are no longer here. I have not heard >> from any of these guys since the list went paid (I don't think): > >> David Sovreen >> Dan Peterman > > I thought I saw these guys ... Peterman just the other day (?) ... > maybe that was on the Mikrotik list. I miss the rest of them. > > Funny thing, though, in my Thunderbird (email client ...) all the Trango > chat ended up in my Trango folder anyway! :-P > > -- > *** > Register your services in our FREE WISP Locator > http://www.part-15.org/maps/WISPSearch.asp > *** > The PART-15.ORG Motorola Discussion List > This is a Paid Subscription Email Discussion List Service. > All rights reserved. All content becomes the sole property > of PART-15.ORG > *** > To unsubscribe from the list: Send an email to: imail...@part-15.org > In the Body: Unsubscribe Motorola > *** Register your services in our FREE WISP Locator http://www.part-15.org/maps/WISPSearch.asp *** The PART-15.ORG Motorola Discussion List This is a Paid Subscription Email Discussion List Service. All rights reserved. All content becomes the sole property of PART-15.ORG *** To unsubscribe from the list: Send an email to: imail...@part-15.org In the Body: Unsubscribe Motorola *** Register your services in our FREE WISP Locator http://www.part-15.org/maps/WISPSearch.asp *** The PART-15.ORG Motorola Discussion List This is a Paid Subscription Email Discussion List Service. All rights reserved. All content becomes the sole property of PART-15.ORG *** To unsubscribe from the list: Send an email to: imail...@part-15.org In the Body: Unsubscribe Motorola No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.6/1538 - Release Date: 7/7/2008 7:40 AM *** Register your services in our FREE WISP Locator http://www.part-15.org/maps/WISP
[AFMUG] ........Fw: [Motorola] This should be on the Trango List - TrangoLink 45 throughput, reliability
- Original Message - From: Bullit To: motor...@part-15.org Sent: Saturday, July 5, 2008 11:52 AM Subject: [Motorola] This should be on the Trango List - TrangoLink 45 throughput, reliability Hi all Can we try a bit harder to keep the separate lists separate? Thanks Michael -Original Message- From: motorola-ow...@part-15.org [mailto:motorola-ow...@part-15.org] On Behalf Of Paul McCall Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 9:52 AM To: motor...@part-15.org Subject: RE: [Motorola] TrangoLink 45 throughput, reliability Yes, I mean the Canopy 400 NOT the PTP. So, I can get away with 2 APs and 8 SMs and 20 Mhz total frequency used. Yeah, the part I am not certain with is on my own tower, with the close proximity. The customer towers only use 5.2. and 2.4 Paul -Original Message- From: motorola-ow...@part-15.org [mailto:motorola-ow...@part-15.org] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 10:47 AM To: motor...@part-15.org Subject: Re: [Motorola] TrangoLink 45 throughput, reliability > FYI, I also have fiber to a tower less than a mile away, and the 8 towers > will also connect to it with a link for backup. Was actually planning on > using the Canopy 400 PTMP for that as two sectors covers all 8 towers and > again, that would only be used as a backup. So, I would have to be > careful > granted in frequency selection. You do mean Canopy 400, not PTP400, right? So the Canopy 400 will be 5.4? I have Trango ATLAS backhauls coexisting with PTP400 OK, same tower same height, maybe 10 ft horizontal separation, pointed maybe 120 degrees from each other. The biggest problem has been ATLAS backhaul interfering into APs on the same tower, on the same frequency, with 100+ feet of vertical separation. I would really avoid using the same frequency on the same tower for anything without sync. You might get away with it if you use a high performance dish. I think your biggest chance of problems is with panel antennas because they will have significant sidelobes. The least chance will be with shrouded dishes, or if you are lucky enough to be able to use existing horn antennas left behind by a telco. *** Register your services in our FREE WISP Locator http://www.part-15.org/maps/WISPSearch.asp *** The PART-15.ORG Motorola Discussion List This is a Paid Subscription Email Discussion List Service. All rights reserved. All content becomes the sole property of PART-15.ORG *** To unsubscribe from the list: Send an email to: imail...@part-15.org In the Body: Unsubscribe Motorola *** Register your services in our FREE WISP Locator http://www.part-15.org/maps/WISPSearch.asp *** The PART-15.ORG Motorola Discussion List This is a Paid Subscription Email Discussion List Service. All rights reserved. All content becomes the sole property of PART-15.ORG *** To unsubscribe from the list: Send an email to: imail...@part-15.org In the Body: Unsubscribe Motorola *** Register your services in our FREE WISP Locator http://www.part-15.org/maps/WISPSearch.asp *** The PART-15.ORG Motorola Discussion List This is a Paid Subscription Email Discussion List Service. All rights reserved. All content becomes the sole property of PART-15.ORG *** To unsubscribe from the list: Send an email to: imail...@part-15.org In the Body: Unsubscribe Motorola
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
with special commentator "That one guy steve..." - Original Message - From: TJ Trout To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I enjoy the email check sends, it's always entertaining. Sounds like you should just unsubscribe and head off to the UBNT forums! On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 1:48 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: Why, thank you Jay! Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com On Feb 13, 2018, at 4:03 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: i must get 20+ messages a month from various vendors. mostly part of being a WISPA member. i glance at most...but most often just use shift-delete a whole lot. I can mention several things I have really appreciated getting from "spam" * Baicells Black Friday Deal * Jeff Broadwick's newsletter posts * Chuck Mccown's product announcements I guess there are other product announcements I prefer too. I shop at Baltic a lot, i usually read their stuff - Original Message - From: fiber...@mail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 > From: ch...@wbmfg.com > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > You do realize that this list is my list, right? No, I did not know that. It doesn't say so when you sign up for the list. > So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? Participating on the list isn't quite the same as inboxing me directly with a canned message. > I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. Your list, your rules. I still don't think it's cool to send out unsolicited commercial messages without an opt-in. Furthermore industry best practices include using a double opt-in. Mailchimp support double opt-in: https://kb.mailchimp.com/lists/signup-forms/about-double-opt-in In summary: I did not know that by joining the Af list I would, unbeknownst to me and surreptitiously, be signed up for another direct email list. Jared
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
:) - Original Message - From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Why, thank you Jay! Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com On Feb 13, 2018, at 4:03 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: i must get 20+ messages a month from various vendors. mostly part of being a WISPA member. i glance at most...but most often just use shift-delete a whole lot. I can mention several things I have really appreciated getting from "spam" * Baicells Black Friday Deal * Jeff Broadwick's newsletter posts * Chuck Mccown's product announcements I guess there are other product announcements I prefer too. I shop at Baltic a lot, i usually read their stuff - Original Message - From: fiber...@mail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 > From: ch...@wbmfg.com > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > You do realize that this list is my list, right? No, I did not know that. It doesn't say so when you sign up for the list. > So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? Participating on the list isn't quite the same as inboxing me directly with a canned message. > I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. Your list, your rules. I still don't think it's cool to send out unsolicited commercial messages without an opt-in. Furthermore industry best practices include using a double opt-in. Mailchimp support double opt-in: https://kb.mailchimp.com/lists/signup-forms/about-double-opt-in In summary: I did not know that by joining the Af list I would, unbeknownst to me and surreptitiously, be signed up for another direct email list. Jared
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
i must get 20+ messages a month from various vendors. mostly part of being a WISPA member. i glance at most...but most often just use shift-delete a whole lot. I can mention several things I have really appreciated getting from "spam" * Baicells Black Friday Deal * Jeff Broadwick's newsletter posts * Chuck Mccown's product announcements I guess there are other product announcements I prefer too. I shop at Baltic a lot, i usually read their stuff - Original Message - From: fiber...@mail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 > From: ch...@wbmfg.com > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > You do realize that this list is my list, right? No, I did not know that. It doesn't say so when you sign up for the list. > So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? Participating on the list isn't quite the same as inboxing me directly with a canned message. > I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. Your list, your rules. I still don't think it's cool to send out unsolicited commercial messages without an opt-in. Furthermore industry best practices include using a double opt-in. Mailchimp support double opt-in: https://kb.mailchimp.com/lists/signup-forms/about-double-opt-in In summary: I did not know that by joining the Af list I would, unbeknownst to me and surreptitiously, be signed up for another direct email list. Jared
Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box
*chuckles* see? i do read a lot of what you post, even if i don't always reply... :) - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box *waves* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -- From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 3:31:15 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box oh god. don't let Mike Hammett or about half of the people on facebook hear you say that LOL Hi Mike! - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box Guess I don’t need DNS. 8.8.8.8 seems cheap and easy... From: Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 12:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] ISP in a box Had a subdivision developer contact me, wanting service for their hundred or so homes. I can get DIA close to the area at a reasonable area. It will require some build but that is OK, that is something I feel some level of expertise. Considering a minimal NOC build. I asked this question of someone once before and I cannot find their answer. Not sure if asked on the list or not. But the answer went something like this: 1.. Buy a big CCR. 2.. Hire Linktechs to configure it. 3.. Put in a big switch for the AE SFPs and rock and roll. I am sure I would need at least one server. DHCP, NAT, DNS? But can all of that be provided by the CCR? What is the smallest NOC configuration that could be created? Batts, rectifier, cooling. I really could put all this in a cabinet on the corner of the street.
Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box
hahah...told ya - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box Don't do that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 2:02:05 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box Guess I don’t need DNS. 8.8.8.8 seems cheap and easy... From: Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 12:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] ISP in a box Had a subdivision developer contact me, wanting service for their hundred or so homes. I can get DIA close to the area at a reasonable area. It will require some build but that is OK, that is something I feel some level of expertise. Considering a minimal NOC build. I asked this question of someone once before and I cannot find their answer. Not sure if asked on the list or not. But the answer went something like this: 1.. Buy a big CCR. 2.. Hire Linktechs to configure it. 3.. Put in a big switch for the AE SFPs and rock and roll. I am sure I would need at least one server. DHCP, NAT, DNS? But can all of that be provided by the CCR? What is the smallest NOC configuration that could be created? Batts, rectifier, cooling. I really could put all this in a cabinet on the corner of the street.
Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box
oh god. don't let Mike Hammett or about half of the people on facebook hear you say that LOL Hi Mike! - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box Guess I don’t need DNS. 8.8.8.8 seems cheap and easy... From: Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 12:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] ISP in a box Had a subdivision developer contact me, wanting service for their hundred or so homes. I can get DIA close to the area at a reasonable area. It will require some build but that is OK, that is something I feel some level of expertise. Considering a minimal NOC build. I asked this question of someone once before and I cannot find their answer. Not sure if asked on the list or not. But the answer went something like this: 1.. Buy a big CCR. 2.. Hire Linktechs to configure it. 3.. Put in a big switch for the AE SFPs and rock and roll. I am sure I would need at least one server. DHCP, NAT, DNS? But can all of that be provided by the CCR? What is the smallest NOC configuration that could be created? Batts, rectifier, cooling. I really could put all this in a cabinet on the corner of the street.
Re: [AFMUG] Is this a good time to get in Bitcoin ?????
I used to think I wanted to follow Travis's lead and invest in some high tech real estate / office space. But - the more I look around - offices are moving to the residencei don't see investing in office space being a good investment anymore. - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is this a good time to get in Bitcoin ? Rather than buy bitcoin, I think I will buy some real estate situated for building a recreational pot store at some point in the future At least the land will retain some value. (This is Utah, that alone should tell you how likely that is to happen). From: Jason McKemie Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 11:01 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is this a good time to get in Bitcoin ? If you're in business for yourself, you're gambling. Maybe with more control, but still gambling. On Wednesday, February 7, 2018, Josh Luthman wrote: High risk, high reward. I don't gamble at all and currency trading/stocks are exactly that - gambling. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Andreas Wiatowski wrote: Everything is too volatile…. Unless you have money to burn or are a gambling person, probably better to bet on your own business. Cheers, Andreas Wiatowski, CEO Silo Wireless Inc. 1-866-727-4138 x-600 http://www.silowireless.com Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV Silo Wireless is a Proud Member of: CanWISP http://www.canwisp.ca WISPA http://wispa.org Brantford Brant Chamber of Commerce Paris Chamber of Commerce Cambridge Chamber of Commerce _ The contents of this email message and any attachments are intended solely for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information and may be legally protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message or their agent, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply email and then delete this message and any attachments. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, copying, or storage of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. From: Af on behalf of Steve Jones Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" Date: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 12:11 PM To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is this a good time to get in Bitcoin ? The head of the CFTC, Christopher Giancarlo, and the chairman of the SEC, Jay Clayton, are testifying before the Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee on Tuesday. In prepared testimony, Clayton has identified cryptocurrency exchanges as a potential target for future regulation. - WSJ via Axios regulation On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Litecoin looking pretty cheap right now too On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 12:07 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: Was $5k this morning… From: Af on behalf of Kurt Fankhauser Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" Date: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 1:00 PM To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: [AFMUG] Is this a good time to get in Bitcoin ? Currently trading at $7,100 per bitcoin, thinking this may be a good time to get in? Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Movie Review (moviepass)
Yes...good movie ! Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Steve Jones" To: Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Movie Review (moviepass) Date: Mon, Feb 5, 2018 10:58 PM I just finally watched the martian... I didnt realize how long its been, kept planning on watching it, just had other things to do.. holy cow! take the real science out of it, and that is what scifi/fantasy is all about... even real science ... do the math.. find the solution... there isnt another option... made me want to give up on giving up. ... and, as always, watch The Road. Ill probably follow of on this the Hostiles review in a couple years too On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:17 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: Or know your WWII history... On 02/05/2018 10:03 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: But watch The Darkest Hour first so you have better context. *From:* Gino A. Villarini *Sent:* Monday, February 05, 2018 10:50 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Movie Review (moviepass) Dunkirk is one of those movies that you need to watch on Imax � From: Af on behalf of Lewis Bergman Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" Date: Monday, February 5, 2018 at 1:20 PM To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Movie Review (moviepass) The big issue with Dnkirk is it is exactly like watching the same 15 minute movie from 12 different seats. *//* */Gino A. Villarini/* President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 11:12 AM CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: __ wife suggested we go watch dunkirk as it returned to theatres in huntsville but we never made it back up there - Original Message - *From:* Chuck McCown *To:* af@afmug.com *Sent:* Monday, February 5, 2018 11:01 AM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Movie Review (moviepass) I really enjoyed The Darkest Hour. Then I watched Dunkirk on Amazon. Glad I did not pay for Dunkirk at the theater and glad I got to watch The Darkest Hour first so I could know what was going on. *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller *Sent:* Sunday, February 04, 2018 9:57 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: Movie Review (moviepass) Hostiles. Wow. Prepare yourself before you go in that one. Not really blood and gore but a storyline that'll tug at your heart from the first scene. Movies I have seen that I probably would not have seen without moviepass lately: The Greatest Showman The Commuter? (might have seen it anyway) Hostiles Movies I have seen that I would have seen anyway: The Post 12 Strong The Darkest Hour
[AFMUG] Ot: Dow futures
Down another 1000... Hold on tight ! Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Movie Review (moviepass)
wife suggested we go watch dunkirk as it returned to theatres in huntsville but we never made it back up there - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 5, 2018 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Movie Review (moviepass) I really enjoyed The Darkest Hour. Then I watched Dunkirk on Amazon. Glad I did not pay for Dunkirk at the theater and glad I got to watch The Darkest Hour first so I could know what was going on. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 9:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Movie Review (moviepass) Hostiles. Wow. Prepare yourself before you go in that one. Not really blood and gore but a storyline that'll tug at your heart from the first scene. Movies I have seen that I probably would not have seen without moviepass lately: The Greatest Showman The Commuter? (might have seen it anyway) Hostiles Movies I have seen that I would have seen anyway: The Post 12 Strong The Darkest Hour
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Movie Review (moviepass)
Its been cold and rainy...lol Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Movie Review (moviepass) Date: Mon, Feb 5, 2018 12:24 AM Man you go to the movies a lot :P On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 10:57 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > Hostiles. Wow. Prepare yourself before you go in that one. Not really > blood and gore but a storyline that'll tug at your > heart from the first scene. > > Movies I have seen that I probably would not have seen without moviepass > lately: > > The Greatest Showman > The Commuter? (might have seen it anyway) > Hostiles > > Movies I have seen that I would have seen anyway: > > The Post > 12 Strong > The Darkest Hour >
[AFMUG] OT: Movie Review (moviepass)
Hostiles. Wow. Prepare yourself before you go in that one. Not really blood and gore but a storyline that'll tug at your heart from the first scene. Movies I have seen that I probably would not have seen without moviepass lately: The Greatest Showman The Commuter? (might have seen it anyway) Hostiles Movies I have seen that I would have seen anyway: The Post 12 Strong The Darkest Hour
Re: [AFMUG] OT Moviepass
apparently my phone is too old to run the "latest" release. boo. https://www.reddit.com/r/MoviePassClub/comments/7uuvoa/account_gone/ the person who posted this is not me - but my phone runs android 4.4.6 - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Moviepass Yes From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 3:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Moviepass My app is not pulling any theaters today is yours? Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: Subject: [AFMUG] OT Moviepass Date: Fri, Feb 2, 2018 3:58 PM https://www.wired.com/story/moviepass-second-act/
Re: [AFMUG] OT Moviepass
My app is not pulling any theaters today is yours? Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: Subject: [AFMUG] OT Moviepass Date: Fri, Feb 2, 2018 3:58 PM https://www.wired.com/story/moviepass-second-act/
Re: [AFMUG] Is the list still alive?
It's not dead, Jim. - Original Message - From: Colin Stanners To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is the list still alive? It's 10PM in your area Jon, I'm sure you've worked hard, relax a bit! On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 9:19 PM, Jon Langeler wrote: Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc.
Re: [AFMUG] Cellular One approach to WISP
pretty sure cell carriers had licenses and protected areas ; unlicensed wisps do not - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard To: af Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cellular One approach to WISP It definitely wouldn't be an easy thing to put together, and there would be a lot of details that would have to be worked out. The only way I can really see it working, would be if it was basically a franchise system... local guy pays whatever franchise fees, and in exchange gets to use the brand and gets a protected area (only protected from other franchisees, obviously...), it would probably make sense to also take on the role of a distributor, to some extent, and probably also provide some level of customer support. It could work, but I'm guessing getting a lot of existing WISPs to sign up for something like that isn't going to be easy. The WISPs that already have an established brand with a good local reputation aren't going to be crazy about the idea of dumping all that and starting over with a new brand, and the ones that don't... you aren't going to want involved (unless they're brand new startups, but that's a whole different thing). On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 9:52 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: I am might be wrong, but I don't see many of those working out. Who fronts the money for the drop in the bucket national ad campaign? National brand awareness doesn't just happen. Same for buying equipment. Who runs the warehouse, do you pay upfront for the equipment? How long do you have to wait for your delivery since it adds a step? I doubt the distributors will give you a big price break if you expect them to drop ship a 1 unit order to 125 different places. How do you deal with someone that is hurting your brand? I guess I just don't see that the advantages outweigh the huge PITA but I hope it works for you guys. I guess I saw the difficulties in trying to make a similar deal with only 4 companies. It took almost a year. It would have a natural extension into IX and peering I guess. On Wed, Jan 31, 2018, 3:17 AM Gino A. Villarini wrote: Some of the Benefits: National Brand Awareness – huge plus when your brand is know and recognized as option #3 nationally Standardized Operations – getting a bunch of WISP together and standardizing on the best operations procedures could be daunting but the benefits overshadow the initial work Buying/Negotiating power – buying 100 radios vs 1 could be a great negotiating point, also when negotiating tower leases, fiber, ip transit etc.. Political / Lobbying – being represented by ONE entity that is backed by hundred of thousands of subs will provide leverage when lobbying at FCC and other political maters. Ht wisp operator could be seen as one of the big boys in the table vs scattered small mom and pop shops… Better prospect for exit/acquisition – Investors will take notice and as a conglomerate, there are better financial outlook in a exit strategy. From: Af on behalf of Travis Johnson Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" Date: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 11:19 PM To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cellular One approach to WISP And honestly, what benefits are you hoping to gain?? A single name? Better pricing on equipment? I'm not sure I understand what the ultimate goal would be, and if it would be worth the cost to "consolidate" hundreds or thousands of small companies. Things are different now than they were in the early cell days... or the early cable days (as Rise/JAB is discovering). It seems like KeyOn was trying to do something similar to this, even going public, before dying a slow and miserable death. Travis On 1/30/2018 8:04 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: I like the concept, it's going to be like herding cats though... On Tuesday, January 30, 2018, Brian Webster wrote: In this discussion should we have it, a history of the first cellular networks their evolution and when the industry started to explode would need to be laid out. Starting from the early 80’s on up through. This is important because as Gino has suggested, the WISP industry is following a very similar path and has always suffered from brand/product image, recognition and understanding. Cellular phones back then suffered the same problem. The word cellular was understood as a biology term by most. The term “Car Phones” was better understood and only those who had a lot of money had those and it was a party line system with no privacy. People had them out of extreme necessity only. The concept of anyone other than the phone company being able to deliver a phone service would not have ever seemed possible to a consumer. At that time the breakup of Ma Bell was just happening. A person could easily start a cellul
Re: [AFMUG] Cellular One approach to WISP
the American way. - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cellular One approach to WISP The start of another great oligopoly! From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 12:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cellular One approach to WISP I would attend Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Gino A. Villarini" To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: [AFMUG] Cellular One approach to WISP Date: Tue, Jan 30, 2018 1:25 PM Should we discuss it as session at wispamerica? From: Af on behalf of Brian Webster Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" Date: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 1:50 PM To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cellular One approach to WISP Absolutely. I have had a method like this in my head for year. Craig McCaw really helped those independent operators when he created a national branding for the A side cellular operators that had to compete with the B side that were all the established ILECs. If there were an interested group of WISP’s who wanted to explore the concept I would be willing to have a conference call and discuss. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 9:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Cellular One approach to WISP Hey Guys Those who know the history behind Cellular One, don’t you think this should be repeated in the WISP industry?
Re: [AFMUG] Cellular One approach to WISP
I would attend Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Gino A. Villarini" To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: [AFMUG] Cellular One approach to WISP Date: Tue, Jan 30, 2018 1:25 PM Should we discuss it as session at wispamerica? From: Af on behalf of Brian Webster Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" Date: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 1:50 PM To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cellular One approach to WISP Absolutely. I have had a method like this in my head for year. Craig McCaw really helped those independent operators when he created a national branding for the A side cellular operators that had to compete with the B side that were all the established ILECs. If there were an interested group of WISP’s who wanted to explore the concept I would be willing to have a conference call and discuss. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 9:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Cellular One approach to WISP Hey Guys Those who know the history behind Cellular One, don’t you think this should be repeated in the WISP industry?
Re: [AFMUG] moviepass now strong arming....
i purchased wife's through costco online too - was in our mailbox 7 days later - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] moviepass now strong arming My wife bought two through costco at the same time. Mine showed up and I have used it once. Still waiting on hers. From: Layne Sisk Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 2:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] moviepass now strong arming Bought one each for my Dad and Step-mom for Christmas. Step-mom’s still has not shown up. Can’t get anyone to answer a call or email from them. Force you to a facebook page with terrible response rate. My dad tried to use his and the theater would not accept it. Just filed a chargeback and gave up on them. Layne Sisk ServerPlus 801.426.8283, ext 102 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 3:05 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] moviepass now strong arming It's been known for a while that AMC (america's largest movie chain, recently purchasing carmike cinemas down here in the south) - isn't happy with moviepass. Ironically, through googling around tonight moviepass is coming back and trying to negotiate through movie chains - attempting to get a percentage of ticket sales and concessions. If they don't play? moviepass pulls the theatre. They've pulled 10 of the largest AMC theatres - - many on reddit saying "to make a statement" This could get fun to watch :) https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/26/moviepass-pulls-out-of-amcs-top-theaters-as-negotiations-fail/
Re: [AFMUG] moviepass now strong arming....
Saw "12 Strong" with ours tonight - wife and me. Good times. Good movie! - Original Message - From: Layne Sisk To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] moviepass now strong arming Bought one each for my Dad and Step-mom for Christmas. Step-mom's still has not shown up. Can't get anyone to answer a call or email from them. Force you to a facebook page with terrible response rate. My dad tried to use his and the theater would not accept it. Just filed a chargeback and gave up on them. Layne Sisk ServerPlus 801.426.8283, ext 102 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 3:05 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] moviepass now strong arming It's been known for a while that AMC (america's largest movie chain, recently purchasing carmike cinemas down here in the south) - isn't happy with moviepass. Ironically, through googling around tonight moviepass is coming back and trying to negotiate through movie chains - attempting to get a percentage of ticket sales and concessions. If they don't play? moviepass pulls the theatre. They've pulled 10 of the largest AMC theatres - - many on reddit saying "to make a statement" This could get fun to watch :) https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/26/moviepass-pulls-out-of-amcs-top-theaters-as-negotiations-fail/
[AFMUG] moviepass now strong arming....
It's been known for a while that AMC (america's largest movie chain, recently purchasing carmike cinemas down here in the south) - isn't happy with moviepass. Ironically, through googling around tonight moviepass is coming back and trying to negotiate through movie chains - attempting to get a percentage of ticket sales and concessions. If they don't play? moviepass pulls the theatre. They've pulled 10 of the largest AMC theatres - - many on reddit saying "to make a statement" This could get fun to watch :) https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/26/moviepass-pulls-out-of-amcs-top-theaters-as-negotiations-fail/
Re: [AFMUG] ferrite beads / radio station
whoa. i just have flashbacks of high school math horror. - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ferrite beads / radio station Well, lets say you want the coil to present 10,000 ohms of series inductive reactance. xl=2 pi f l xl/100e6 * 2* pi = l = 16 microhenrys L = R*R*T*T/(9R + 10 L) 8 turns on a 6 inch diameter with a length of 1 inch ought to do it. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 12:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ferrite beads / radio station Chuck, how tight does the coil need to be? ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > Before the plug on the cable ends. You can also make all CAT5 cables have > about 5 turns of cable as a choke coil at each end too if you have enough > slack. > Shielded cable will help too. No need to ground it. I would focus on > anything near the transmitter and FM transmitting system. > *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2018 12:07 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* [AFMUG] ferrite beads / radio station > we are collocated with a radio station in another town that has been > causing our ethernet speed to drop to 10 meg. > i know we've discussed ferrite beads - - how should they be replaced on > the cable to try to eliminate the noise causing > us to negotiate at 10 meg? > thanks > the station is a low power fm - under 100 watts > > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Virus-free. www.avg.com > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
Re: [AFMUG] ferrite beads / radio station
I know it is outdoor shielded , but cat5e. We've been at this site about three years (ok, maybe six). They occasionally move more data than 10 meg and we get alerts gets are congested. I will see if we can add the loops. Where on the cable should the ferrite beads go? - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ferrite beads / radio station Before the plug on the cable ends. You can also make all CAT5 cables have about 5 turns of cable as a choke coil at each end too if you have enough slack. Shielded cable will help too. No need to ground it. I would focus on anything near the transmitter and FM transmitting system. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 12:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] ferrite beads / radio station we are collocated with a radio station in another town that has been causing our ethernet speed to drop to 10 meg. i know we've discussed ferrite beads - - how should they be replaced on the cable to try to eliminate the noise causing us to negotiate at 10 meg? thanks the station is a low power fm - under 100 watts
[AFMUG] cambium 900 mhz 450 sync
I glanced at packetflix, saw the new gigabit sync injector (it is probably not all that new anymore) , but i could not find a syncpipe basic to go with it. i saw a parasitic, but i know that is not the syncpipe i need. is there a new syncpipe? is it under a different category? thanks. (i opened a ticket but i assume the list will be faster) :)
[AFMUG] ferrite beads / radio station
we are collocated with a radio station in another town that has been causing our ethernet speed to drop to 10 meg. i know we've discussed ferrite beads - - how should they be replaced on the cable to try to eliminate the noise causing us to negotiate at 10 meg? thanks the station is a low power fm - under 100 watts
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3.5.1 new stable?
wonder if it helps the "hockey puck" lockup issue? We've seen it a handful of times - Original Message - From: Steve Jones To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3.5.1 new stable? 3.5.1 has one not sure if there is more than one that far back On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 2:45 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: Steve is there a GPS upgrade between 2.6 and 3.5? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 2:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3.5.1 new stable? its been good here, 50 APs and a few hundred subscribers in 5ghz, just have to remember to upgrade the gps chipset manually On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 2:12 PM, Jerry Head wrote: We are running 3.5.1 on a few hundred units, both 2.4 and 5ghz, seems to be working just fine. On 1/22/2018 2:03 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: What is everyone thinking on the newest firmware release are you willing to consider it the new stable at this point? � We are still running 2.6.1.x on APs at this point and have a mix of it and a little 3.3 on SMs. I don�t see any issues on the forums or in the notes on the newest version and the few links I have on it have been just fine. � Interested to hear everyone else�s thoughts. � Brandon �
Re: [AFMUG] OT: USB backup drive
Synology I think it is Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" To: Subject: [AFMUG]OT: USB backup drive Date: Fri, Jan 19, 2018 1:35 PM My home network utilizes a raid 5 array in an external network attached storage. And then as we have discussed I back that up with an off-site external backup. I can get you the brand I'd you like. I think I have about $700 in the system Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Bill Prince" To: Subject: [AFMUG] OT: USB backup drive Date: Fri, Jan 19, 2018 1:10 PM Our backups now total 2.6 TB. We backup all of our stuff to a 4 TB RAID box, and once a month we back that up (backup the backup) to a 4 TB Seagate USB HD. The day after I backup the backup, I swap it with a guy that lives in the next county. The cloud is great, but I'd be backing up between 3 and 15 GB per day. bp On 1/19/2018 10:59 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > Cloud. > > -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Friday, January 19, > 2018 > 11:55 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT: USB backup drive > Mom needs a USB backup drive. I have a Western Digital but I don't > want to > risk my inheritance on a hard drive that may fail when it's > needed. What > do the experts recommend?
Re: [AFMUG] OT: USB backup drive
My home network utilizes a raid 5 array in an external network attached storage. And then as we have discussed I back that up with an off-site external backup. I can get you the brand I'd you like. I think I have about $700 in the system Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Bill Prince" To: Subject: [AFMUG] OT: USB backup drive Date: Fri, Jan 19, 2018 1:10 PM Our backups now total 2.6 TB. We backup all of our stuff to a 4 TB RAID box, and once a month we back that up (backup the backup) to a 4 TB Seagate USB HD. The day after I backup the backup, I swap it with a guy that lives in the next county. The cloud is great, but I'd be backing up between 3 and 15 GB per day. bp On 1/19/2018 10:59 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > Cloud. > > -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Friday, January 19, > 2018 > 11:55 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT: USB backup drive > Mom needs a USB backup drive. I have a Western Digital but I don't > want to > risk my inheritance on a hard drive that may fail when it's > needed. What > do the experts recommend?
Re: [AFMUG] OT MoviePass
the app only lets you pick movies today - - so i am assuming no. although if you wanted to go to the movie theatre early and buy the ticket for a later showing i assume you could. then you could give the ticket to whomever. and you have to pick the movie you want to see on the app - - but since you're actually using a credit card to buy the card i doubt the software can only unlock a certain movie. more likely it unlocks a certain price amount. hmm, that being said, i guess you could buy a ticket for "tomorrow" assuming the box office can sell you one for tomorrow. i'd probably try that first to test my theory using your own cash. - Original Message - From: Lewis Bergman To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT MoviePass I don't think so, but I haven't tried such a thing. "Invest" $10 and find out. On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 8:32 AM Cassidy B. Larson wrote: Here’s a random question I had about this.. Can I buy my seat really early for a premier, then go by the next day and the next to buy another seat as a “buffer” on each side and in front and back. Then, could I give some of these tickets to friends and family if I wanted to fill in my buffer? On Jan 14, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Darin Steffl wrote: Chuck, You sound like us millennials who want everything NOW! Haha ;) I'm 26 and fine waiting for the card in the mail but I also knew I'd have to wait so my expectations were already set. The FAQ spells it out pretty clearly. On Jan 14, 2018 10:37 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: I know nothing about Fandor... yet. Still bummed out that I have to wait for the card. I really thought I could sign up, get the app and use it immediately. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 7:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT MoviePass Got moviepass for my wife today through the costco website - it came with a streaming service too. Anyone else see that? Is it any good? Appeared to be mostly for movies. "FANDOR" - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT MoviePass Patience sometimes is hard to come by... From: Darin Steffl Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 1:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT MoviePass Chuck, I activated mine as well but the FAQ states we have to wait for the physical card to arrive before we can activate it and use it. This is unless your theater supports the e-ticket through movie pass which none of my theaters do. Your billing date starts when you receive and activate the physical card for the first time. Mine shipped a couple days after I redeemed the Costco offer online. On Jan 13, 2018 2:14 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: Sounds Big Brotherish Jaime Solorza On Jan 13, 2018 1:07 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" wrote: That is correct. Mine came in about a week (after my mom got it for me for Christmas). I used it for the first time last night - saw the commuter. The card is actually a credit card (mastercard) The app "activates" the card for use for 30 minutes while you are at the movie house. The app uses gps to verify where you are and will only activate the credit card while you are there (within 100 yards) You buy the movie ticket with the "moviepass" credit card. - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT MoviePass It appears I have to wait for the physical cards to arrive before I can activate the app. It wants the last 4 digits off the card. From: Joe Novak Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT MoviePass It may seem odd.. but have you poked Costco support? I believe they are fairly good about what they sell. On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 1:02 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: My wife bought two of them online from Costco. Still cannot make the app work. MoviePass so far has not responded with any support.
[AFMUG] competition
Had a customer complaining about speed on a tower. Not usual - but before we could reply (this was on facebook), a former customer replied with these comments... "I got a att hotspot off ebay along with a att unlimited unthrottled sim card from drwireless and love it i have used 240 gb this month and het speeds up to 24 mb download speed." Our 2.4 can barely deliver 10 meg.EPMP can do a little more than that, but I know even the new 900 mhz or so can hold up to that now i googled the whole drwireless and it appears to be an illegal hardware hack or somethingnot all that reliable.so although this guy is happy now maybe he won't be eventually we have seen a higher volume of departures to competiting products like this. it might even force a redesign of some of our pricing. anyone else seeing this? What are your thoughts?
Re: [AFMUG] Memphis
if you have a lot of interference in the 900 band, it does work much better than 900 LOL fortunately our 900 still works pretty good here. We have one area where it does not but it is due to an "operator" nearby who does not believe in gps sync for canopy - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis Too lazy to look for the batch of promises that were made during initial testing, but I am pretty sure it was supposed to work much better than 900. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:50 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis For us, it goes a little further than 2.4, but not as far as 900. - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard To: af Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis It lives up to the promise of being reasonable priced LTE gear, and it works fine. If I had been expecting it to perform the same as 900mhz does (or did, when 900mhz was actually usable...) in NLOS, then I'd probably be a bit disappointed... being LTE, it does do better in NLOS than, say, Canopy 450 in 3.65ghz (I'd say it performs closer to what I'd expect from 2.4ghz, or a bit better), but no, it's nothing magical. On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Jason McKemie wrote: It works as well as you would expect the 3.65 follow-up to wimax to work, and maybe then some. Nothing magical about the NLOS capabilities though. On Tuesday, January 16, 2018, wrote: Did it live up to the promises? From: Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis Baicells - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:53:18 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis What was that product that I think Rick and Patrick were both working with a couple of years ago that was supposed to be the be-all and end-all for NLOS /tree performance. Remember some preliminary test results then nothing. I just don't remember the brand or the outcome. Did it work? Is the company still around? -Original Message- From: Robert Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 11:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Memphis Any wireless providers thereabout? I have a customer that is looking for a secondary besides Comcast and says there are too many trees and it's too flat for any wireless providers down there... Thanks, robert
Re: [AFMUG] Memphis
For us, it goes a little further than 2.4, but not as far as 900. - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard To: af Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis It lives up to the promise of being reasonable priced LTE gear, and it works fine. If I had been expecting it to perform the same as 900mhz does (or did, when 900mhz was actually usable...) in NLOS, then I'd probably be a bit disappointed... being LTE, it does do better in NLOS than, say, Canopy 450 in 3.65ghz (I'd say it performs closer to what I'd expect from 2.4ghz, or a bit better), but no, it's nothing magical. On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Jason McKemie wrote: It works as well as you would expect the 3.65 follow-up to wimax to work, and maybe then some. Nothing magical about the NLOS capabilities though. On Tuesday, January 16, 2018, wrote: Did it live up to the promises? From: Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis Baicells - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:53:18 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis What was that product that I think Rick and Patrick were both working with a couple of years ago that was supposed to be the be-all and end-all for NLOS /tree performance. Remember some preliminary test results then nothing. I just don't remember the brand or the outcome. Did it work? Is the company still around? -Original Message- From: Robert Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 11:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Memphis Any wireless providers thereabout? I have a customer that is looking for a secondary besides Comcast and says there are too many trees and it's too flat for any wireless providers down there... Thanks, robert
Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Post
Finally got to see it this afternoon using my moviepass. Enjoyed the ending the most"gosh, darn, i hope we don't have to go through this again" "um, there is a break in at the watergate complex..." lol - Original Message - From: Lewis Bergman To: Animal Farm Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 7:27 PM Subject: [AFMUG] OT: The Post An excellent film with an important message.
Re: [AFMUG] OT MoviePass
Got moviepass for my wife today through the costco website - it came with a streaming service too. Anyone else see that? Is it any good? Appeared to be mostly for movies. "FANDOR" - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT MoviePass Patience sometimes is hard to come by... From: Darin Steffl Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 1:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT MoviePass Chuck, I activated mine as well but the FAQ states we have to wait for the physical card to arrive before we can activate it and use it. This is unless your theater supports the e-ticket through movie pass which none of my theaters do. Your billing date starts when you receive and activate the physical card for the first time. Mine shipped a couple days after I redeemed the Costco offer online. On Jan 13, 2018 2:14 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: Sounds Big Brotherish Jaime Solorza On Jan 13, 2018 1:07 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" wrote: That is correct. Mine came in about a week (after my mom got it for me for Christmas). I used it for the first time last night - saw the commuter. The card is actually a credit card (mastercard) The app "activates" the card for use for 30 minutes while you are at the movie house. The app uses gps to verify where you are and will only activate the credit card while you are there (within 100 yards) You buy the movie ticket with the "moviepass" credit card. - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT MoviePass It appears I have to wait for the physical cards to arrive before I can activate the app. It wants the last 4 digits off the card. From: Joe Novak Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT MoviePass It may seem odd.. but have you poked Costco support? I believe they are fairly good about what they sell. On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 1:02 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: My wife bought two of them online from Costco. Still cannot make the app work. MoviePass so far has not responded with any support.
Re: [AFMUG] OT MoviePass
That is correct. Mine came in about a week (after my mom got it for me for Christmas). I used it for the first time last night - saw the commuter. The card is actually a credit card (mastercard) The app "activates" the card for use for 30 minutes while you are at the movie house. The app uses gps to verify where you are and will only activate the credit card while you are there (within 100 yards) You buy the movie ticket with the "moviepass" credit card. - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT MoviePass It appears I have to wait for the physical cards to arrive before I can activate the app. It wants the last 4 digits off the card. From: Joe Novak Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT MoviePass It may seem odd.. but have you poked Costco support? I believe they are fairly good about what they sell. On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 1:02 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: My wife bought two of them online from Costco. Still cannot make the app work. MoviePass so far has not responded with any support.
