Re: [AFMUG] AF24 link that won't pass an RFC2544 test at 500 Mbps

[Josh Reynolds]

You would have to disable inband on both ends, and even then I
wouldn't expect it to go much above 550 or 600MBps on a RFC2544 test.

You said it youself: "This link performs normally with 0.00% packet
loss and full duplex layer 3 IP traffic. Between Adva metro Ethernet
equipment we can't get a 500 Mbps test to run cleanly."

 ... but it kinda goes to shit on something like an RFC2544. On
another note, what packet size were you using?

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 7:05 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
> I ended up disabling inband management on the remote end temporarily, and
> got the same results...  We are likely replacing the radio set with
> something that is actually 1GbE line rate and will pass frames sequentially.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 4:03 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> I actually ran those tests with Performant/Accedian, which caused UBNT to
>> put flow control in. Inband management will still cause issues. Your max
>> throughput will drop, but it should be stable. I still have the old test
>> results around here somewhere.
>>
>> Remember, these radios have like virtually 0 buffer. They will either pass
>> the framea or start taildropping.
>>
>> On Jan 15, 2018 1:09 PM, "Eric Kuhnke"  wrote:
>>>
>>> I recall the AF team in the Chicago area running Exfo or JDSU RFC2544
>>> tests on some of their test links, and getting them to pass.
>>>
>>> Have seen the same results with flow control turned on or off. Right now
>>> I can't turn off inband management because we will lose visibility into the
>>> far end of the radio link, but will try it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:05 AM, Darin Steffl 
>>> wrote:

 Siklu would be a better radio for this link.

 I don't recall anyone ever running that test on Airfiber radios from
 what I've read.

 On Jan 15, 2018 11:27 AM, "Eric Kuhnke"  wrote:

 Same results for sequence errors either with or without flow control
 enabled on the radios, and switch ports that connect to them.



 On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:23 AM, Colin Stanners 
 wrote:
>
> What are the flow control settings? I remember seeing a graph that flow
> control has a big effect on whether AirFibers can hit near the full speed.
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Eric Kuhnke 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Ubiquiti people who might be watching the list,
>>
>> If you're watching the list, please contact me...  I have an AF24 link
>> with "perfect" RF characteristics that won't pass a 500 Mbps full duplex
>> RFC2544 test. It also fails MEF y.1731 tests at the same data rate.
>>
>> 1.70 km, -55 RSL symmetric on both sides, radios report 774 Mbps
>> capacity full duplex.
>>
>> We have already replaced a radio on one end, the data cables, tried
>> bypassing surge protectors, and replaced cables.
>>
>> This link performs normally with 0.00% packet loss and full duplex
>> layer 3 IP traffic. Between Adva metro Ethernet equipment we can't get a 
>> 500
>> Mbps test to run cleanly.
>
>


>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 link that won't pass an RFC2544 test at 500 Mbps

[Eric Kuhnke]

I ended up disabling inband management on the remote end temporarily, and
got the same results...  We are likely replacing the radio set with
something that is actually 1GbE line rate and will pass frames sequentially.



On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 4:03 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> Hi.
>
> I actually ran those tests with Performant/Accedian, which caused UBNT to
> put flow control in. Inband management will still cause issues. Your max
> throughput will drop, but it should be stable. I still have the old test
> results around here somewhere.
>
> Remember, these radios have like virtually 0 buffer. They will either pass
> the framea or start taildropping.
>
> On Jan 15, 2018 1:09 PM, "Eric Kuhnke"  wrote:
>
>> I recall the AF team in the Chicago area running Exfo or JDSU RFC2544
>> tests on some of their test links, and getting them to pass.
>>
>> Have seen the same results with flow control turned on or off. Right now
>> I can't turn off inband management because we will lose visibility into the
>> far end of the radio link, but will try it.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:05 AM, Darin Steffl 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Siklu would be a better radio for this link.
>>>
>>> I don't recall anyone ever running that test on Airfiber radios from
>>> what I've read.
>>>
>>> On Jan 15, 2018 11:27 AM, "Eric Kuhnke"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Same results for sequence errors either with or without flow control
>>> enabled on the radios, and switch ports that connect to them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:23 AM, Colin Stanners 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 What are the flow control settings? I remember seeing a graph that flow
 control has a big effect on whether AirFibers can hit near the full speed.

 On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Eric Kuhnke 
 wrote:

> Hey Ubiquiti people who might be watching the list,
>
> If you're watching the list, please contact me...  I have an AF24 link
> with "perfect" RF characteristics that won't pass a 500 Mbps full duplex
> RFC2544 test. It also fails MEF y.1731 tests at the same data rate.
>
> 1.70 km, -55 RSL symmetric on both sides, radios report 774 Mbps
> capacity full duplex.
>
> We have already replaced a radio on one end, the data cables, tried
> bypassing surge protectors, and replaced cables.
>
> This link performs normally with 0.00% packet loss and full duplex
> layer 3 IP traffic. Between Adva metro Ethernet equipment we can't get a
> 500 Mbps test to run cleanly.
>


>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 link that won't pass an RFC2544 test at 500 Mbps

[Josh Reynolds]

Hi.

I actually ran those tests with Performant/Accedian, which caused UBNT to
put flow control in. Inband management will still cause issues. Your max
throughput will drop, but it should be stable. I still have the old test
results around here somewhere.

Remember, these radios have like virtually 0 buffer. They will either pass
the framea or start taildropping.

On Jan 15, 2018 1:09 PM, "Eric Kuhnke"  wrote:

> I recall the AF team in the Chicago area running Exfo or JDSU RFC2544
> tests on some of their test links, and getting them to pass.
>
> Have seen the same results with flow control turned on or off. Right now I
> can't turn off inband management because we will lose visibility into the
> far end of the radio link, but will try it.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:05 AM, Darin Steffl 
> wrote:
>
>> Siklu would be a better radio for this link.
>>
>> I don't recall anyone ever running that test on Airfiber radios from what
>> I've read.
>>
>> On Jan 15, 2018 11:27 AM, "Eric Kuhnke"  wrote:
>>
>> Same results for sequence errors either with or without flow control
>> enabled on the radios, and switch ports that connect to them.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:23 AM, Colin Stanners 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What are the flow control settings? I remember seeing a graph that flow
>>> control has a big effect on whether AirFibers can hit near the full speed.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Eric Kuhnke 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hey Ubiquiti people who might be watching the list,

 If you're watching the list, please contact me...  I have an AF24 link
 with "perfect" RF characteristics that won't pass a 500 Mbps full duplex
 RFC2544 test. It also fails MEF y.1731 tests at the same data rate.

 1.70 km, -55 RSL symmetric on both sides, radios report 774 Mbps
 capacity full duplex.

 We have already replaced a radio on one end, the data cables, tried
 bypassing surge protectors, and replaced cables.

 This link performs normally with 0.00% packet loss and full duplex
 layer 3 IP traffic. Between Adva metro Ethernet equipment we can't get a
 500 Mbps test to run cleanly.

>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 link that won't pass an RFC2544 test at 500 Mbps

[Eric Kuhnke]

I recall the AF team in the Chicago area running Exfo or JDSU RFC2544 tests
on some of their test links, and getting them to pass.

Have seen the same results with flow control turned on or off. Right now I
can't turn off inband management because we will lose visibility into the
far end of the radio link, but will try it.



On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:05 AM, Darin Steffl 
wrote:

> Siklu would be a better radio for this link.
>
> I don't recall anyone ever running that test on Airfiber radios from what
> I've read.
>
> On Jan 15, 2018 11:27 AM, "Eric Kuhnke"  wrote:
>
> Same results for sequence errors either with or without flow control
> enabled on the radios, and switch ports that connect to them.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:23 AM, Colin Stanners 
> wrote:
>
>> What are the flow control settings? I remember seeing a graph that flow
>> control has a big effect on whether AirFibers can hit near the full speed.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Eric Kuhnke 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Ubiquiti people who might be watching the list,
>>>
>>> If you're watching the list, please contact me...  I have an AF24 link
>>> with "perfect" RF characteristics that won't pass a 500 Mbps full duplex
>>> RFC2544 test. It also fails MEF y.1731 tests at the same data rate.
>>>
>>> 1.70 km, -55 RSL symmetric on both sides, radios report 774 Mbps
>>> capacity full duplex.
>>>
>>> We have already replaced a radio on one end, the data cables, tried
>>> bypassing surge protectors, and replaced cables.
>>>
>>> This link performs normally with 0.00% packet loss and full duplex layer
>>> 3 IP traffic. Between Adva metro Ethernet equipment we can't get a 500 Mbps
>>> test to run cleanly.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 link that won't pass an RFC2544 test at 500 Mbps

[Chuck Macenski]

You could try turning off inband mangement if you have not already done so.

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:

> Same results for sequence errors either with or without flow control
> enabled on the radios, and switch ports that connect to them.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:23 AM, Colin Stanners 
> wrote:
>
>> What are the flow control settings? I remember seeing a graph that flow
>> control has a big effect on whether AirFibers can hit near the full speed.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Eric Kuhnke 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Ubiquiti people who might be watching the list,
>>>
>>> If you're watching the list, please contact me...  I have an AF24 link
>>> with "perfect" RF characteristics that won't pass a 500 Mbps full duplex
>>> RFC2544 test. It also fails MEF y.1731 tests at the same data rate.
>>>
>>> 1.70 km, -55 RSL symmetric on both sides, radios report 774 Mbps
>>> capacity full duplex.
>>>
>>> We have already replaced a radio on one end, the data cables, tried
>>> bypassing surge protectors, and replaced cables.
>>>
>>> This link performs normally with 0.00% packet loss and full duplex layer
>>> 3 IP traffic. Between Adva metro Ethernet equipment we can't get a 500 Mbps
>>> test to run cleanly.
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 link that won't pass an RFC2544 test at 500 Mbps

[Darin Steffl]

Siklu would be a better radio for this link.

I don't recall anyone ever running that test on Airfiber radios from what
I've read.

On Jan 15, 2018 11:27 AM, "Eric Kuhnke"  wrote:

Same results for sequence errors either with or without flow control
enabled on the radios, and switch ports that connect to them.



On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:23 AM, Colin Stanners  wrote:

> What are the flow control settings? I remember seeing a graph that flow
> control has a big effect on whether AirFibers can hit near the full speed.
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Eric Kuhnke 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Ubiquiti people who might be watching the list,
>>
>> If you're watching the list, please contact me...  I have an AF24 link
>> with "perfect" RF characteristics that won't pass a 500 Mbps full duplex
>> RFC2544 test. It also fails MEF y.1731 tests at the same data rate.
>>
>> 1.70 km, -55 RSL symmetric on both sides, radios report 774 Mbps capacity
>> full duplex.
>>
>> We have already replaced a radio on one end, the data cables, tried
>> bypassing surge protectors, and replaced cables.
>>
>> This link performs normally with 0.00% packet loss and full duplex layer
>> 3 IP traffic. Between Adva metro Ethernet equipment we can't get a 500 Mbps
>> test to run cleanly.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 link that won't pass an RFC2544 test at 500 Mbps

[Eric Kuhnke]

Same results for sequence errors either with or without flow control
enabled on the radios, and switch ports that connect to them.



On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:23 AM, Colin Stanners  wrote:

> What are the flow control settings? I remember seeing a graph that flow
> control has a big effect on whether AirFibers can hit near the full speed.
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Eric Kuhnke 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Ubiquiti people who might be watching the list,
>>
>> If you're watching the list, please contact me...  I have an AF24 link
>> with "perfect" RF characteristics that won't pass a 500 Mbps full duplex
>> RFC2544 test. It also fails MEF y.1731 tests at the same data rate.
>>
>> 1.70 km, -55 RSL symmetric on both sides, radios report 774 Mbps capacity
>> full duplex.
>>
>> We have already replaced a radio on one end, the data cables, tried
>> bypassing surge protectors, and replaced cables.
>>
>> This link performs normally with 0.00% packet loss and full duplex layer
>> 3 IP traffic. Between Adva metro Ethernet equipment we can't get a 500 Mbps
>> test to run cleanly.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 link that won't pass an RFC2544 test at 500 Mbps

[Colin Stanners]

What are the flow control settings? I remember seeing a graph that flow
control has a big effect on whether AirFibers can hit near the full speed.

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:

> Hey Ubiquiti people who might be watching the list,
>
> If you're watching the list, please contact me...  I have an AF24 link
> with "perfect" RF characteristics that won't pass a 500 Mbps full duplex
> RFC2544 test. It also fails MEF y.1731 tests at the same data rate.
>
> 1.70 km, -55 RSL symmetric on both sides, radios report 774 Mbps capacity
> full duplex.
>
> We have already replaced a radio on one end, the data cables, tried
> bypassing surge protectors, and replaced cables.
>
> This link performs normally with 0.00% packet loss and full duplex layer 3
> IP traffic. Between Adva metro Ethernet equipment we can't get a 500 Mbps
> test to run cleanly.
>

[AFMUG] AF24 link that won't pass an RFC2544 test at 500 Mbps

[Eric Kuhnke]

Hey Ubiquiti people who might be watching the list,

If you're watching the list, please contact me...  I have an AF24 link with
"perfect" RF characteristics that won't pass a 500 Mbps full duplex RFC2544
test. It also fails MEF y.1731 tests at the same data rate.

1.70 km, -55 RSL symmetric on both sides, radios report 774 Mbps capacity
full duplex.

We have already replaced a radio on one end, the data cables, tried
bypassing surge protectors, and replaced cables.

This link performs normally with 0.00% packet loss and full duplex layer 3
IP traffic. Between Adva metro Ethernet equipment we can't get a 500 Mbps
test to run cleanly.

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 max distance rain zone K

[George Skorup]

I have a couple AF24 (non HD) links around almost exactly a mile. And a 
few more between 2.1 and 2.8 miles. The 1 mile links are obviously 
better in the rain, but they all drop out in heavy storms. 1 mile maybe 
10 minutes, 2+ miles anywhere between 20-40 minutes depending on the 
intensity. This is why I have 5GHz backup paths even for the short 
links. Most of them aren't parallel with the 24GHz. They were simply 
existing links that we left in place when we short-cut with some AF24's.


On 10/21/2017 9:57 PM, Jon Langeler wrote:

Yes like Chicago. What’s your thoughts on 1mi?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Oct 21, 2017, at 10:29 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net 
<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:



Is your rain in Grand Rapids like Chicago rain? If so, yes.  :-p

Look back to the IgniteNet thread for the links to the TBW Facebook 
posts where I talk about better ways of calculating sanity of links.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
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<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

*From: *"Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net 
<mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net>>

*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Saturday, October 21, 2017 9:26:48 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] AF24 max distance rain zone K

Is 2mi crazy?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 max distance rain zone K

[Jon Langeler]

Yes like Chicago. What’s your thoughts on 1mi?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Oct 21, 2017, at 10:29 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> 
> Is your rain in Grand Rapids like Chicago rain? If so, yes.  :-p
> 
> Look back to the IgniteNet thread for the links to the TBW Facebook posts 
> where I talk about better ways of calculating sanity of links.
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> 
> The Brothers WISP
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 9:26:48 PM
> Subject: [AFMUG] AF24 max distance rain zone K
> 
> Is 2mi crazy? 
> 
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 max distance rain zone K

[Mike Hammett]

Is your rain in Grand Rapids like Chicago rain? If so, yes. :-p 

Look back to the IgniteNet thread for the links to the TBW Facebook posts where 
I talk about better ways of calculating sanity of links. 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 9:26:48 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] AF24 max distance rain zone K 

Is 2mi crazy? 

Jon Langeler 
Michwave Technologies, Inc. 

[AFMUG] AF24 max distance rain zone K

[Jon Langeler]

Is 2mi crazy? 

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 issues after switching to PowerInjector

[Robert Andrews]

i.e, do _not_ tattoo the answers on the inside of your wrist...

On 08/15/2017 04:45 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

FTTFTTFFTF
(The answers to a biology quiz in High School)

*From:* Josh Reynolds
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 15, 2017 4:50 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF24 issues after switching to PowerInjector

Up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, t568a, t568b, t568a,
t568b, select, start!

On Aug 15, 2017 5:46 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes that was the first thing I did, the jumpers all alternate like
up/down/up/down/up or its reverse of that, I forget

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account)
<li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

Have you added the additional jumpers needed to power all 4 pairs?

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Kurt Fankhauser
<lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:

I have had an AF24 up for over a year now with no issues
while running the factory supplied POE. I switched the
AF24's all at the site over to a single PacketFlux
PowerInjector and just in 2 weeks time the AF24 has locked
up once and needed hard power cycled and this latest problem
it seems to have issues on the SNR on the Ethernet pairs.
(see attached photo). Now I rebooted it from the GUI and it
came back perfect without showing Ethernet problems but just
wondering what is going on here. I have 2 other AF24's
running from the same PowerInjector and they are not having
any issues. Only other thing that I am thinking might need
done is grounding the lug on the PowerInjector labeled
"shield" as right now there is no way for the outer jacket
of Ethernet cable to ground itself. Don't know if that could
be causing this or not.




--
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Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
<http://www.packetflux.com/>
<http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian> <http://facebook.com/packetflux> 
<http://twitter.com/@packetflux>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 issues after switching to PowerInjector

[Kurt Fankhauser]

no surge suppressor in line

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 12:48 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> Is there a possibility of a surge event?   Is there a surge suppressor
> inline?
>
> It seems suspicious that the db difference is for the traditional power
> pins...   which is why I asked about the jumpers.
>
> You could try grounding the shield since ubnt seems to like that for some
> reason.
>
> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> Have you added the additional jumpers needed to power all 4 pairs?
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have had an AF24 up for over a year now with no issues while running
>>> the factory supplied POE. I switched the AF24's all at the site over to a
>>> single PacketFlux PowerInjector and just in 2 weeks time the AF24 has
>>> locked up once and needed hard power cycled and this latest problem it
>>> seems to have issues on the SNR on the Ethernet pairs. (see attached
>>> photo). Now I rebooted it from the GUI and it came back perfect without
>>> showing Ethernet problems but just wondering what is going on here. I have
>>> 2 other AF24's running from the same PowerInjector and they are not having
>>> any issues. Only other thing that I am thinking might need done is
>>> grounding the lug on the PowerInjector labeled "shield" as right now there
>>> is no way for the outer jacket of Ethernet cable to ground itself. Don't
>>> know if that could be causing this or not.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
>> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
>> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>> 
>>   
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>   
>   
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 issues after switching to PowerInjector

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Is there a possibility of a surge event?   Is there a surge suppressor
inline?

It seems suspicious that the db difference is for the traditional power
pins...   which is why I asked about the jumpers.

You could try grounding the shield since ubnt seems to like that for some
reason.

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> Have you added the additional jumpers needed to power all 4 pairs?
>
> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  > wrote:
>
>> I have had an AF24 up for over a year now with no issues while running
>> the factory supplied POE. I switched the AF24's all at the site over to a
>> single PacketFlux PowerInjector and just in 2 weeks time the AF24 has
>> locked up once and needed hard power cycled and this latest problem it
>> seems to have issues on the SNR on the Ethernet pairs. (see attached
>> photo). Now I rebooted it from the GUI and it came back perfect without
>> showing Ethernet problems but just wondering what is going on here. I have
>> 2 other AF24's running from the same PowerInjector and they are not having
>> any issues. Only other thing that I am thinking might need done is
>> grounding the lug on the PowerInjector labeled "shield" as right now there
>> is no way for the outer jacket of Ethernet cable to ground itself. Don't
>> know if that could be causing this or not.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>   
>   
>
>


-- 
*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
  

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 issues after switching to PowerInjector

[chuck]

FTTFTTFFTF
(The answers to a biology quiz in High School)

From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 4:50 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF24 issues after switching to PowerInjector

Up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, t568a, t568b, t568a, t568b, 
select, start!

On Aug 15, 2017 5:46 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:

  Yes that was the first thing I did, the jumpers all alternate like 
up/down/up/down/up or its reverse of that, I forget

  On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
<li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

Have you added the additional jumpers needed to power all 4 pairs?


On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

  I have had an AF24 up for over a year now with no issues while running 
the factory supplied POE. I switched the AF24's all at the site over to a 
single PacketFlux PowerInjector and just in 2 weeks time the AF24 has locked up 
once and needed hard power cycled and this latest problem it seems to have 
issues on the SNR on the Ethernet pairs. (see attached photo). Now I rebooted 
it from the GUI and it came back perfect without showing Ethernet problems but 
just wondering what is going on here. I have 2 other AF24's running from the 
same PowerInjector and they are not having any issues. Only other thing that I 
am thinking might need done is grounding the lug on the PowerInjector labeled 
"shield" as right now there is no way for the outer jacket of Ethernet cable to 
ground itself. Don't know if that could be causing this or not.



-- 

  Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.

  Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
  forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com

 

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 issues after switching to PowerInjector

[Josh Reynolds]

Up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, t568a, t568b, t568a, t568b,
select, start!

On Aug 15, 2017 5:46 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser"  wrote:

Yes that was the first thing I did, the jumpers all alternate like
up/down/up/down/up or its reverse of that, I forget

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> Have you added the additional jumpers needed to power all 4 pairs?
>
> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  > wrote:
>
>> I have had an AF24 up for over a year now with no issues while running
>> the factory supplied POE. I switched the AF24's all at the site over to a
>> single PacketFlux PowerInjector and just in 2 weeks time the AF24 has
>> locked up once and needed hard power cycled and this latest problem it
>> seems to have issues on the SNR on the Ethernet pairs. (see attached
>> photo). Now I rebooted it from the GUI and it came back perfect without
>> showing Ethernet problems but just wondering what is going on here. I have
>> 2 other AF24's running from the same PowerInjector and they are not having
>> any issues. Only other thing that I am thinking might need done is
>> grounding the lug on the PowerInjector labeled "shield" as right now there
>> is no way for the outer jacket of Ethernet cable to ground itself. Don't
>> know if that could be causing this or not.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>   
>   
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 issues after switching to PowerInjector

[Kurt Fankhauser]

Yes that was the first thing I did, the jumpers all alternate like
up/down/up/down/up or its reverse of that, I forget

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> Have you added the additional jumpers needed to power all 4 pairs?
>
> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  > wrote:
>
>> I have had an AF24 up for over a year now with no issues while running
>> the factory supplied POE. I switched the AF24's all at the site over to a
>> single PacketFlux PowerInjector and just in 2 weeks time the AF24 has
>> locked up once and needed hard power cycled and this latest problem it
>> seems to have issues on the SNR on the Ethernet pairs. (see attached
>> photo). Now I rebooted it from the GUI and it came back perfect without
>> showing Ethernet problems but just wondering what is going on here. I have
>> 2 other AF24's running from the same PowerInjector and they are not having
>> any issues. Only other thing that I am thinking might need done is
>> grounding the lug on the PowerInjector labeled "shield" as right now there
>> is no way for the outer jacket of Ethernet cable to ground itself. Don't
>> know if that could be causing this or not.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>   
>   
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 issues after switching to PowerInjector

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Have you added the additional jumpers needed to power all 4 pairs?

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
wrote:

> I have had an AF24 up for over a year now with no issues while running the
> factory supplied POE. I switched the AF24's all at the site over to a
> single PacketFlux PowerInjector and just in 2 weeks time the AF24 has
> locked up once and needed hard power cycled and this latest problem it
> seems to have issues on the SNR on the Ethernet pairs. (see attached
> photo). Now I rebooted it from the GUI and it came back perfect without
> showing Ethernet problems but just wondering what is going on here. I have
> 2 other AF24's running from the same PowerInjector and they are not having
> any issues. Only other thing that I am thinking might need done is
> grounding the lug on the PowerInjector labeled "shield" as right now there
> is no way for the outer jacket of Ethernet cable to ground itself. Don't
> know if that could be causing this or not.
>



-- 
*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
  

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 and Edgepoint Slow Speed in 1 Direction

[can...@believewireless.net]

Check all of your MTU settings. If you are using jumbo frames, make sure
the MTU is set in the routers, switch and in the AF24s as well.

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 6:39 PM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

> Now I'm starting to really get confused.
>
> I physically changed the AF24, and now I can send 1500b ICMP Packets
> through it with no loss and UDP BW Test is fine, but TCP BW Test will
> connect but pass 0 traffic.
>
> If I change the Edgepoint to send tagged traffic over the AF24, instead of
> untagged to the Mikrotik on the other end.  Everything is perfect.  Change
> it back to untagged, and Pings still go through, but no TCP Traffic.
>
> The Original AF24 radio does not work Either tagged or Untagged, so I'm
> pretty sure there is something wrong with it.
>
>
>
>
> On 2/27/2017 4:05 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
>
>> I think this might be an issue between the Edgepoint and the Airfiber.  I
>> set the Port on the Edgepoint on the same network as the AF24 radio, and as
>> I increase ICMP Packet size, I start to have more and more packet loss to
>> the radio itself.
>>
>> This was a Brand New AF24, cable length is about 10'  Showing 29DB SNR on
>> all cable pairs.  However I'm realizing now that the radio plugged into the
>> Edgepoint does not give me a cable length, but the AF24 on the other end
>> does.  I wonder if this is an older unit I ended up with and there's some
>> sort of Ethernet incompatibility. Reading through the forums, there's a lot
>> of posts about older AF24 units and MTU size speculating that a hardware
>> changed occurred somewhere along the line, but never confirmed by UBNT.
>>
>> Nate
>>
>>
>> On 2/27/2017 8:34 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>>
>>> Nate,
>>> For testing purposes
>>>
>>> Considering using the Traffic Generator vs the BW Test tool. (look at
>>> the MT wiki for instructions).
>>> With CCR1009, pay attention to which ports you are connecting to.. due
>>> to the switch chip in there, not all ports have 1g connection to the CPU.
>>>
>>> Avoid, bridge ports, change the default interface queue to
>>> ethernet-defaut
>>> you can also get more information out of the AF24, by connecting to them
>>> via ssh/telnet and issuing emacstat command..
>>>
>>> I am not sure about the Edgepoint or 16SG, if they provide enhanced
>>> ethernet stats. (We like the netonix cause they show a lot more details of
>>> ethernet stats, the MT will also do that when you look at the ethernet
>>> stats via CLI)
>>>
>>> All of these should be able to help you find the issue.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>>
>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>>
>>>> From: "Nate Burke" <n...@blastcomm.com>
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:08:12 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF24 and Edgepoint Slow Speed in 1 Direction
>>>> Flow control is disabled in both the Edgepoint and the 16SG. I found a
>>>> CCR1009 with an SFP+ Port I can put on the 16XG to test to the X86 10G
>>>> card.  Other than the Tik on the other end of the AF24 link, I don't
>>>> have any other Tik's directly connected to this setup.
>>>>
>>>> On 2/26/2017 10:10 PM, Mitch Koep wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Flow Control??
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/26/2017 06:31 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a setup which I just Installed, and I'm trying to track down
>>>>>> no speed in 1 direction on the link, Not having much luck so far, so
>>>>>> I thought I'd ask.  The AF24 is reporting full modulation.  I can't
>>>>>> even maintain a winbox connection to the router.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RB1100X2 -> Copper to AF24
>>>>>> AF24 -> Copper to Edgepoint S16 -> 10G fiber to Edgeswitch 16XG ->
>>>>>> 10G fiber to X86 Mikrotik with Dell KJYD8 Broadcom 10G card.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Mikrotik to AF24 path is on the default Vlan1 on the 16XG and
>>>>>> Edgepoint S16.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bandwidth Test results:
>>>>>> TCP BW test at 500mb+ from the RB1100X2 (cpu limit) to the X86
>>>>>> ~2mb from the X86 to the RB1100X2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> UDP BW Test at 700MB from the RB1100X2 to the X86
>>>>>> X86 is transmitting 700mb, but the RB1100 is only receiving ~400mb
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MTU on everything is set to 1518.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Open to any ideas of what to try.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 and Edgepoint Slow Speed in 1 Direction

[Nate Burke]

Now I'm starting to really get confused.

I physically changed the AF24, and now I can send 1500b ICMP Packets 
through it with no loss and UDP BW Test is fine, but TCP BW Test will 
connect but pass 0 traffic.


If I change the Edgepoint to send tagged traffic over the AF24, instead 
of untagged to the Mikrotik on the other end.  Everything is perfect.  
Change it back to untagged, and Pings still go through, but no TCP Traffic.


The Original AF24 radio does not work Either tagged or Untagged, so I'm 
pretty sure there is something wrong with it.




On 2/27/2017 4:05 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
I think this might be an issue between the Edgepoint and the 
Airfiber.  I set the Port on the Edgepoint on the same network as the 
AF24 radio, and as I increase ICMP Packet size, I start to have more 
and more packet loss to the radio itself.


This was a Brand New AF24, cable length is about 10'  Showing 29DB SNR 
on all cable pairs.  However I'm realizing now that the radio plugged 
into the Edgepoint does not give me a cable length, but the AF24 on 
the other end does.  I wonder if this is an older unit I ended up with 
and there's some sort of Ethernet incompatibility. Reading through the 
forums, there's a lot of posts about older AF24 units and MTU size 
speculating that a hardware changed occurred somewhere along the line, 
but never confirmed by UBNT.


Nate


On 2/27/2017 8:34 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

Nate,
For testing purposes

Considering using the Traffic Generator vs the BW Test tool. (look at 
the MT wiki for instructions).
With CCR1009, pay attention to which ports you are connecting to.. 
due to the switch chip in there, not all ports have 1g connection to 
the CPU.


Avoid, bridge ports, change the default interface queue to 
ethernet-defaut
you can also get more information out of the AF24, by connecting to 
them via ssh/telnet and issuing emacstat command..


I am not sure about the Edgepoint or 16SG, if they provide enhanced 
ethernet stats. (We like the netonix cause they show a lot more 
details of ethernet stats, the MT will also do that when you look at 
the ethernet stats via CLI)


All of these should be able to help you find the issue.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -

From: "Nate Burke" <n...@blastcomm.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:08:12 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF24 and Edgepoint Slow Speed in 1 Direction
Flow control is disabled in both the Edgepoint and the 16SG. I found a
CCR1009 with an SFP+ Port I can put on the 16XG to test to the X86 10G
card.  Other than the Tik on the other end of the AF24 link, I don't
have any other Tik's directly connected to this setup.

On 2/26/2017 10:10 PM, Mitch Koep wrote:

Flow Control??


On 02/26/2017 06:31 PM, Nate Burke wrote:

I have a setup which I just Installed, and I'm trying to track down
no speed in 1 direction on the link, Not having much luck so far, so
I thought I'd ask.  The AF24 is reporting full modulation.  I can't
even maintain a winbox connection to the router.

RB1100X2 -> Copper to AF24
AF24 -> Copper to Edgepoint S16 -> 10G fiber to Edgeswitch 16XG ->
10G fiber to X86 Mikrotik with Dell KJYD8 Broadcom 10G card.

The Mikrotik to AF24 path is on the default Vlan1 on the 16XG and
Edgepoint S16.

Bandwidth Test results:
TCP BW test at 500mb+ from the RB1100X2 (cpu limit) to the X86
~2mb from the X86 to the RB1100X2.

UDP BW Test at 700MB from the RB1100X2 to the X86
X86 is transmitting 700mb, but the RB1100 is only receiving ~400mb

MTU on everything is set to 1518.


Open to any ideas of what to try.

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 and Edgepoint Slow Speed in 1 Direction

[Nate Burke]

I think this might be an issue between the Edgepoint and the Airfiber.  
I set the Port on the Edgepoint on the same network as the AF24 radio, 
and as I increase ICMP Packet size, I start to have more and more packet 
loss to the radio itself.


This was a Brand New AF24, cable length is about 10'  Showing 29DB SNR 
on all cable pairs.  However I'm realizing now that the radio plugged 
into the Edgepoint does not give me a cable length, but the AF24 on the 
other end does.  I wonder if this is an older unit I ended up with and 
there's some sort of Ethernet incompatibility. Reading through the 
forums, there's a lot of posts about older AF24 units and MTU size 
speculating that a hardware changed occurred somewhere along the line, 
but never confirmed by UBNT.


Nate


On 2/27/2017 8:34 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

Nate,
For testing purposes

Considering using the Traffic Generator vs the BW Test tool. (look at the MT 
wiki for instructions).
With CCR1009, pay attention to which ports you are connecting to.. due to the 
switch chip in there, not all ports have 1g connection to the CPU.

Avoid, bridge ports, change the default interface queue to ethernet-defaut
you can also get more information out of the AF24, by connecting to them via 
ssh/telnet and issuing emacstat command..

I am not sure about the Edgepoint or 16SG, if they provide enhanced ethernet 
stats. (We like the netonix cause they show a lot more details of ethernet 
stats, the MT will also do that when you look at the ethernet stats via CLI)

All of these should be able to help you find the issue.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -

From: "Nate Burke" <n...@blastcomm.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:08:12 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF24 and Edgepoint Slow Speed in 1 Direction
Flow control is disabled in both the Edgepoint and the 16SG.  I found a
CCR1009 with an SFP+ Port I can put on the 16XG to test to the X86 10G
card.  Other than the Tik on the other end of the AF24 link, I don't
have any other Tik's directly connected to this setup.

On 2/26/2017 10:10 PM, Mitch Koep wrote:

Flow Control??


On 02/26/2017 06:31 PM, Nate Burke wrote:

I have a setup which I just Installed, and I'm trying to track down
no speed in 1 direction on the link, Not having much luck so far, so
I thought I'd ask.  The AF24 is reporting full modulation.  I can't
even maintain a winbox connection to the router.

RB1100X2 -> Copper to AF24
AF24 -> Copper to Edgepoint S16 -> 10G fiber to Edgeswitch 16XG ->
10G fiber to X86 Mikrotik with Dell KJYD8 Broadcom 10G card.

The Mikrotik to AF24 path is on the default Vlan1 on the 16XG and
Edgepoint S16.

Bandwidth Test results:
TCP BW test at 500mb+ from the RB1100X2 (cpu limit) to the X86
~2mb from the X86 to the RB1100X2.

UDP BW Test at 700MB from the RB1100X2 to the X86
X86 is transmitting 700mb, but the RB1100 is only receiving ~400mb

MTU on everything is set to 1518.


Open to any ideas of what to try.

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 and Edgepoint Slow Speed in 1 Direction

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Nate, 
For testing purposes

Considering using the Traffic Generator vs the BW Test tool. (look at the MT 
wiki for instructions).
With CCR1009, pay attention to which ports you are connecting to.. due to the 
switch chip in there, not all ports have 1g connection to the CPU.

Avoid, bridge ports, change the default interface queue to ethernet-defaut
you can also get more information out of the AF24, by connecting to them via 
ssh/telnet and issuing emacstat command..

I am not sure about the Edgepoint or 16SG, if they provide enhanced ethernet 
stats. (We like the netonix cause they show a lot more details of ethernet 
stats, the MT will also do that when you look at the ethernet stats via CLI)

All of these should be able to help you find the issue.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
> From: "Nate Burke" <n...@blastcomm.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:08:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF24 and Edgepoint Slow Speed in 1 Direction

> Flow control is disabled in both the Edgepoint and the 16SG.  I found a
> CCR1009 with an SFP+ Port I can put on the 16XG to test to the X86 10G
> card.  Other than the Tik on the other end of the AF24 link, I don't
> have any other Tik's directly connected to this setup.
> 
> On 2/26/2017 10:10 PM, Mitch Koep wrote:
>> Flow Control??
>>
>>
>> On 02/26/2017 06:31 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
>>> I have a setup which I just Installed, and I'm trying to track down
>>> no speed in 1 direction on the link, Not having much luck so far, so
>>> I thought I'd ask.  The AF24 is reporting full modulation.  I can't
>>> even maintain a winbox connection to the router.
>>>
>>> RB1100X2 -> Copper to AF24
>>> AF24 -> Copper to Edgepoint S16 -> 10G fiber to Edgeswitch 16XG ->
>>> 10G fiber to X86 Mikrotik with Dell KJYD8 Broadcom 10G card.
>>>
>>> The Mikrotik to AF24 path is on the default Vlan1 on the 16XG and
>>> Edgepoint S16.
>>>
>>> Bandwidth Test results:
>>> TCP BW test at 500mb+ from the RB1100X2 (cpu limit) to the X86
>>> ~2mb from the X86 to the RB1100X2.
>>>
>>> UDP BW Test at 700MB from the RB1100X2 to the X86
>>> X86 is transmitting 700mb, but the RB1100 is only receiving ~400mb
>>>
>>> MTU on everything is set to 1518.
>>>
>>>
>>> Open to any ideas of what to try.
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 and Edgepoint Slow Speed in 1 Direction

[Nate Burke]

Flow control is disabled in both the Edgepoint and the 16SG.  I found a 
CCR1009 with an SFP+ Port I can put on the 16XG to test to the X86 10G 
card.  Other than the Tik on the other end of the AF24 link, I don't 
have any other Tik's directly connected to this setup.


On 2/26/2017 10:10 PM, Mitch Koep wrote:

Flow Control??


On 02/26/2017 06:31 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
I have a setup which I just Installed, and I'm trying to track down 
no speed in 1 direction on the link, Not having much luck so far, so 
I thought I'd ask.  The AF24 is reporting full modulation.  I can't 
even maintain a winbox connection to the router.


RB1100X2 -> Copper to AF24
AF24 -> Copper to Edgepoint S16 -> 10G fiber to Edgeswitch 16XG -> 
10G fiber to X86 Mikrotik with Dell KJYD8 Broadcom 10G card.


The Mikrotik to AF24 path is on the default Vlan1 on the 16XG and 
Edgepoint S16.


Bandwidth Test results:
TCP BW test at 500mb+ from the RB1100X2 (cpu limit) to the X86
~2mb from the X86 to the RB1100X2.

UDP BW Test at 700MB from the RB1100X2 to the X86
X86 is transmitting 700mb, but the RB1100 is only receiving ~400mb

MTU on everything is set to 1518.


Open to any ideas of what to try.

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 and Edgepoint Slow Speed in 1 Direction

[Mitch Koep]

Flow Control??


On 02/26/2017 06:31 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
I have a setup which I just Installed, and I'm trying to track down no 
speed in 1 direction on the link,  Not having much luck so far, so I 
thought I'd ask.  The AF24 is reporting full modulation.  I can't even 
maintain a winbox connection to the router.


RB1100X2 -> Copper to AF24
AF24 -> Copper to Edgepoint S16 -> 10G fiber to Edgeswitch 16XG -> 10G 
fiber to X86 Mikrotik with Dell KJYD8 Broadcom 10G card.


The Mikrotik to AF24 path is on the default Vlan1 on the 16XG and 
Edgepoint S16.


Bandwidth Test results:
TCP BW test at 500mb+ from the RB1100X2 (cpu limit) to the X86
~2mb from the X86 to the RB1100X2.

UDP BW Test at 700MB from the RB1100X2 to the X86
X86 is transmitting 700mb, but the RB1100 is only receiving ~400mb

MTU on everything is set to 1518.


Open to any ideas of what to try.



--
Mitch Koep

A Better Wireless
218-851-8689 cell

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 and Edgepoint Slow Speed in 1 Direction

[Nate Burke]

I'll have to try that.  I don't have any other 10G devices on the shelf 
right now.  I'll have to test with a 1G copper port out of the XG switch 
for now.


On 2/26/2017 7:16 PM, George Skorup wrote:
Try a CCR with a SFP+ interface in place of the x86/Broadcom setup to 
rule it out? Or as Ken suggested, ethernet buffer issues, maybe with 
the Edgepoint switch? Or perhaps flow-control is enabled somewhere on 
one side and not the other end?


On 2/26/2017 6:59 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Why do you suspect the AF24 or Edgepoint? It seems the new thing in 
the mix is the 10G fiber to the x86 Mikrotik.  Could the high line 
rate be overflowing the buffer at one end or the other of that fiber 
link?  Could it be a bad x86 driver for the Broadcom card?  I don't 
suppose it's possible to test the exact same setup without the 10G 
fiber?


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 6:31 PM
To: Animal Farm <af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] AF24 and Edgepoint Slow Speed in 1 Direction

I have a setup which I just Installed, and I'm trying to track down 
no speed in 1 direction on the link,  Not having much luck so far, so 
I thought I'd ask.  The AF24 is reporting full modulation.  I can't 
even maintain a winbox connection to the router.


RB1100X2 -> Copper to AF24
AF24 -> Copper to Edgepoint S16 -> 10G fiber to Edgeswitch 16XG -> 
10G fiber to X86 Mikrotik with Dell KJYD8 Broadcom 10G card.


The Mikrotik to AF24 path is on the default Vlan1 on the 16XG and 
Edgepoint S16.


Bandwidth Test results:
TCP BW test at 500mb+ from the RB1100X2 (cpu limit) to the X86 ~2mb 
from the X86 to the RB1100X2.


UDP BW Test at 700MB from the RB1100X2 to the X86
X86 is transmitting 700mb, but the RB1100 is only receiving ~400mb

MTU on everything is set to 1518.


Open to any ideas of what to try.

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 and Edgepoint Slow Speed in 1 Direction

[George Skorup]

Try a CCR with a SFP+ interface in place of the x86/Broadcom setup to 
rule it out? Or as Ken suggested, ethernet buffer issues, maybe with the 
Edgepoint switch? Or perhaps flow-control is enabled somewhere on one 
side and not the other end?


On 2/26/2017 6:59 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Why do you suspect the AF24 or Edgepoint?  It seems the new thing in the mix is 
the 10G fiber to the x86 Mikrotik.  Could the high line rate be overflowing the 
buffer at one end or the other of that fiber link?  Could it be a bad x86 
driver for the Broadcom card?  I don't suppose it's possible to test the exact 
same setup without the 10G fiber?

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 6:31 PM
To: Animal Farm <af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] AF24 and Edgepoint Slow Speed in 1 Direction

I have a setup which I just Installed, and I'm trying to track down no speed in 
1 direction on the link,  Not having much luck so far, so I thought I'd ask.  
The AF24 is reporting full modulation.  I can't even maintain a winbox 
connection to the router.

RB1100X2 -> Copper to AF24
AF24 -> Copper to Edgepoint S16 -> 10G fiber to Edgeswitch 16XG -> 10G fiber to 
X86 Mikrotik with Dell KJYD8 Broadcom 10G card.

The Mikrotik to AF24 path is on the default Vlan1 on the 16XG and Edgepoint S16.

Bandwidth Test results:
TCP BW test at 500mb+ from the RB1100X2 (cpu limit) to the X86 ~2mb from the 
X86 to the RB1100X2.

UDP BW Test at 700MB from the RB1100X2 to the X86
X86 is transmitting 700mb, but the RB1100 is only receiving ~400mb

MTU on everything is set to 1518.


Open to any ideas of what to try.

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 and Edgepoint Slow Speed in 1 Direction

[Ken Hohhof]

Why do you suspect the AF24 or Edgepoint?  It seems the new thing in the mix is 
the 10G fiber to the x86 Mikrotik.  Could the high line rate be overflowing the 
buffer at one end or the other of that fiber link?  Could it be a bad x86 
driver for the Broadcom card?  I don't suppose it's possible to test the exact 
same setup without the 10G fiber?

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 6:31 PM
To: Animal Farm <af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] AF24 and Edgepoint Slow Speed in 1 Direction

I have a setup which I just Installed, and I'm trying to track down no speed in 
1 direction on the link,  Not having much luck so far, so I thought I'd ask.  
The AF24 is reporting full modulation.  I can't even maintain a winbox 
connection to the router.

RB1100X2 -> Copper to AF24
AF24 -> Copper to Edgepoint S16 -> 10G fiber to Edgeswitch 16XG -> 10G fiber to 
X86 Mikrotik with Dell KJYD8 Broadcom 10G card.

The Mikrotik to AF24 path is on the default Vlan1 on the 16XG and Edgepoint S16.

Bandwidth Test results:
TCP BW test at 500mb+ from the RB1100X2 (cpu limit) to the X86 ~2mb from the 
X86 to the RB1100X2.

UDP BW Test at 700MB from the RB1100X2 to the X86
X86 is transmitting 700mb, but the RB1100 is only receiving ~400mb

MTU on everything is set to 1518.


Open to any ideas of what to try.

[AFMUG] AF24 and Edgepoint Slow Speed in 1 Direction

[Nate Burke]

I have a setup which I just Installed, and I'm trying to track down no 
speed in 1 direction on the link,  Not having much luck so far, so I 
thought I'd ask.  The AF24 is reporting full modulation.  I can't even 
maintain a winbox connection to the router.


RB1100X2 -> Copper to AF24
AF24 -> Copper to Edgepoint S16 -> 10G fiber to Edgeswitch 16XG -> 10G 
fiber to X86 Mikrotik with Dell KJYD8 Broadcom 10G card.


The Mikrotik to AF24 path is on the default Vlan1 on the 16XG and 
Edgepoint S16.


Bandwidth Test results:
TCP BW test at 500mb+ from the RB1100X2 (cpu limit) to the X86
~2mb from the X86 to the RB1100X2.

UDP BW Test at 700MB from the RB1100X2 to the X86
X86 is transmitting 700mb, but the RB1100 is only receiving ~400mb

MTU on everything is set to 1518.


Open to any ideas of what to try.

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 for sale

[Gino Villarini]

$500 ea

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 10:51 PM, Brett A Mansfield <
li...@silverlakeinternet.com> wrote:

> I have two AF24's from a link I am decommissioning for sale. Make me an
> offer offlist if your interested.
>
> These are not the HD model, just the standard model.  They are about 1
> year old.
>
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield
>

[AFMUG] AF24 for sale

[Brett A Mansfield]

I have two AF24's from a link I am decommissioning for sale. Make me an offer 
offlist if your interested. 

These are not the HD model, just the standard model.  They are about 1 year old.

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

[Jeremy]

I have one shooting exactly .99 miles here in Utah.  It has had the
modulation drop a couple times in rain during the almost two years that it
has been up, but it has never gone down.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 1:34 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:

> 5225 foot (take that Mr. Metric) link for 15-20 minutes. It will normally
> fade about 20dB at most, but that was just a very heavy rain band. Which is
> not rare. That link has been down that long more than 10 times since it was
> installed a couple years ago. They're good radios for ~99.75% availability
> which is why you need backup links and/or fault tolerant routing for the
> other 1/4%. The ethernet link bounce option on the AF24 is an awesome
> feature to trigger OSPF quickly.
>
> On 8/3/2016 1:57 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> My bar was 1.9 miles in the Chicago area, but George said a week or two
> ago that his 1.5 mile has dropped.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ------
> *From: *"Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> <part15...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, August 3, 2016 1:55:26 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF24
>
> We have AF24s operating at 2-1/4 miles without drops in Bay Area rain. We
> also have one that is operating at 8 or 10 miles (forget how far), but it
> experiences drops in heavy rain.
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 8/3/2016 11:50 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Thanks.  Hope it will do that for a half mile during a Utah rain.
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2016 12:49 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF24
>
> 700 mbps full duplex, there's no changing the sync ratio
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> I just picked up a used AF24.  It has been years since I deployed one of
>> these.  And it was an early one that lost its radome during the first
>> windstorm.
>>
>> What is the true FDX throughput?  Is there an up down ratio of an
>> aggregate throughput or?
>> Interwebs say 1.4 Gbps.  Not sure if that is split up or not.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

[George Skorup]

5225 foot (take that Mr. Metric) link for 15-20 minutes. It will 
normally fade about 20dB at most, but that was just a very heavy rain 
band. Which is not rare. That link has been down that long more than 10 
times since it was installed a couple years ago. They're good radios for 
~99.75% availability which is why you need backup links and/or fault 
tolerant routing for the other 1/4%. The ethernet link bounce option on 
the AF24 is an awesome feature to trigger OSPF quickly.


On 8/3/2016 1:57 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
My bar was 1.9 miles in the Chicago area, but George said a week or 
two ago that his 1.5 mile has dropped.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>


<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

*From: *"Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com>
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, August 3, 2016 1:55:26 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF24

We have AF24s operating at 2-1/4 miles without drops in Bay Area rain. 
We also have one that is operating at 8 or 10 miles (forget how far), 
but it experiences drops in heavy rain.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 8/3/2016 11:50 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Thanks.  Hope it will do that for a half mile during a Utah rain.
*From:* Josh Luthman <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2016 12:49 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF24
700 mbps full duplex, there's no changing the sync ratio
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

I just picked up a used AF24.  It has been years since I
deployed one of these.  And it was an early one that lost its
radome during the first windstorm.
What is the true FDX throughput?  Is there an up down ratio of
an aggregate throughput or?
Interwebs say 1.4 Gbps.  Not sure if that is split up or not.

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

[Josh Luthman]

There are two types of countries...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 8 miles is 12.8 km
>
> silly americans...
>
> http://i.imgur.com/keKopSM.png
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> > wrote:
>
>> No he said 8 or 10 miles.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> 12.8 km with an AF24 that has +0 Tx power and tiny antennas?  Are you
>>> nuts?
>>>
>>> I could sneeze and bring that down...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We have AF24s operating at 2-1/4 miles without drops in Bay Area rain.
>>>> We also have one that is operating at 8 or 10 miles (forget how far), but
>>>> it experiences drops in heavy rain.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/3/2016 11:50 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.  Hope it will do that for a half mile during a Utah rain.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2016 12:49 PM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF24
>>>>
>>>> 700 mbps full duplex, there's no changing the sync ratio
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just picked up a used AF24.  It has been years since I deployed one
>>>>> of these.  And it was an early one that lost its radome during the first
>>>>> windstorm.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the true FDX throughput?  Is there an up down ratio of an
>>>>> aggregate throughput or?
>>>>> Interwebs say 1.4 Gbps.  Not sure if that is split up or not.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

[Bill Prince]

I didn't install it, nor would I have recommended it. But it did get 
installed, and it is operating. It does have a backup.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 8/3/2016 12:00 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

8 miles is 12.8 km

silly americans...

http://i.imgur.com/keKopSM.png

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:


No he said 8 or 10 miles.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com
<mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>> wrote:

12.8 km with an AF24 that has +0 Tx power and tiny antennas? 
Are you nuts?


I could sneeze and bring that down...



On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Bill Prince
<part15...@gmail.com <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

We have AF24s operating at 2-1/4 miles without drops in
Bay Area rain. We also have one that is operating at 8 or
10 miles (forget how far), but it experiences drops in
heavy rain.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 8/3/2016 11:50 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Thanks.  Hope it will do that for a half mile during a
Utah rain.
*From:* Josh Luthman <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2016 12:49 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF24
700 mbps full duplex, there's no changing the sync ratio
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Chuck McCown
<ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

I just picked up a used AF24.  It has been years
since I deployed one of these.  And it was an early
one that lost its radome during the first windstorm.
What is the true FDX throughput? Is there an up down
ratio of an aggregate throughput or?
Interwebs say 1.4 Gbps. Not sure if that is split up
or not.

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

[Eric Kuhnke]

8 miles is 12.8 km

silly americans...

http://i.imgur.com/keKopSM.png

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> No he said 8 or 10 miles.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 12.8 km with an AF24 that has +0 Tx power and tiny antennas?  Are you
>> nuts?
>>
>> I could sneeze and bring that down...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We have AF24s operating at 2-1/4 miles without drops in Bay Area rain.
>>> We also have one that is operating at 8 or 10 miles (forget how far), but
>>> it experiences drops in heavy rain.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/3/2016 11:50 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks.  Hope it will do that for a half mile during a Utah rain.
>>>
>>> *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2016 12:49 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF24
>>>
>>> 700 mbps full duplex, there's no changing the sync ratio
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just picked up a used AF24.  It has been years since I deployed one
>>>> of these.  And it was an early one that lost its radome during the first
>>>> windstorm.
>>>>
>>>> What is the true FDX throughput?  Is there an up down ratio of an
>>>> aggregate throughput or?
>>>> Interwebs say 1.4 Gbps.  Not sure if that is split up or not.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

[Andreas Wiatowski]

We just make sure we have an OSPF backup…during rain fade…link goes 
down…everything is slower for 5-10 min… great capacity for cheap $$

Cheers,
__
Andreas Wiatowski | CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
Email  andr...@silowireless.com
19 Sage Court
Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)
Tel +1.519.449.5656  Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free 
+1.866.727.4138

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 2:59 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF24

No he said 8 or 10 miles.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
<eric.kuh...@gmail.com<mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
12.8 km with an AF24 that has +0 Tx power and tiny antennas?  Are you nuts?
I could sneeze and bring that down...


On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Bill Prince 
<part15...@gmail.com<mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

We have AF24s operating at 2-1/4 miles without drops in Bay Area rain. We also 
have one that is operating at 8 or 10 miles (forget how far), but it 
experiences drops in heavy rain.



bp

<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>


On 8/3/2016 11:50 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Thanks.  Hope it will do that for a half mile during a Utah rain.

From: Josh Luthman<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 12:49 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF24

700 mbps full duplex, there's no changing the sync ratio


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Chuck McCown 
<ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
I just picked up a used AF24.  It has been years since I deployed one of these. 
 And it was an early one that lost its radome during the first windstorm.

What is the true FDX throughput?  Is there an up down ratio of an aggregate 
throughput or?
Interwebs say 1.4 Gbps.  Not sure if that is split up or not.

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

[Brett A Mansfield]

Those ones you just got were getting consistent actual 650Mb each way and never 
faded in rain at .5 miles. Just make sure they are well aligned.

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

> On Aug 3, 2016, at 12:50 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks.  Hope it will do that for a half mile during a Utah rain. 
>  
> From: Josh Luthman
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 12:49 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF24
>  
> 700 mbps full duplex, there's no changing the sync ratio
>  
>  
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>  
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>> I just picked up a used AF24.  It has been years since I deployed one of 
>> these.  And it was an early one that lost its radome during the first 
>> windstorm.
>>  
>> What is the true FDX throughput?  Is there an up down ratio of an aggregate 
>> throughput or? 
>> Interwebs say 1.4 Gbps.  Not sure if that is split up or not. 
> 
>  

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

[Josh Luthman]

No he said 8 or 10 miles.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 12.8 km with an AF24 that has +0 Tx power and tiny antennas?  Are you nuts?
>
> I could sneeze and bring that down...
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We have AF24s operating at 2-1/4 miles without drops in Bay Area rain. We
>> also have one that is operating at 8 or 10 miles (forget how far), but it
>> experiences drops in heavy rain.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>> On 8/3/2016 11:50 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>> Thanks.  Hope it will do that for a half mile during a Utah rain.
>>
>> *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2016 12:49 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF24
>>
>> 700 mbps full duplex, there's no changing the sync ratio
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I just picked up a used AF24.  It has been years since I deployed one of
>>> these.  And it was an early one that lost its radome during the first
>>> windstorm.
>>>
>>> What is the true FDX throughput?  Is there an up down ratio of an
>>> aggregate throughput or?
>>> Interwebs say 1.4 Gbps.  Not sure if that is split up or not.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

[Mike Hammett]

My bar was 1.9 miles in the Chicago area, but George said a week or two ago 
that his 1.5 mile has dropped. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 1:55:26 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF24 


We have AF24s operating at 2-1/4 miles without drops in Bay Area rain. We also 
have one that is operating at 8 or 10 miles (forget how far), but it 
experiences drops in heavy rain. 

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> 
On 8/3/2016 11:50 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: 





Thanks. Hope it will do that for a half mile during a Utah rain. 




From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 12:49 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF24 


700 mbps full duplex, there's no changing the sync ratio 





Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 






I just picked up a used AF24. It has been years since I deployed one of these. 
And it was an early one that lost its radome during the first windstorm. 

What is the true FDX throughput? Is there an up down ratio of an aggregate 
throughput or? 
Interwebs say 1.4 Gbps. Not sure if that is split up or not. 

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

[Eric Kuhnke]

12.8 km with an AF24 that has +0 Tx power and tiny antennas?  Are you nuts?

I could sneeze and bring that down...



On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

> We have AF24s operating at 2-1/4 miles without drops in Bay Area rain. We
> also have one that is operating at 8 or 10 miles (forget how far), but it
> experiences drops in heavy rain.
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 8/3/2016 11:50 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Thanks.  Hope it will do that for a half mile during a Utah rain.
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2016 12:49 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF24
>
> 700 mbps full duplex, there's no changing the sync ratio
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> I just picked up a used AF24.  It has been years since I deployed one of
>> these.  And it was an early one that lost its radome during the first
>> windstorm.
>>
>> What is the true FDX throughput?  Is there an up down ratio of an
>> aggregate throughput or?
>> Interwebs say 1.4 Gbps.  Not sure if that is split up or not.
>>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

[Bill Prince]

We have AF24s operating at 2-1/4 miles without drops in Bay Area rain. 
We also have one that is operating at 8 or 10 miles (forget how far), 
but it experiences drops in heavy rain.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 8/3/2016 11:50 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Thanks.  Hope it will do that for a half mile during a Utah rain.
*From:* Josh Luthman <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2016 12:49 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF24
700 mbps full duplex, there's no changing the sync ratio
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com 
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:


I just picked up a used AF24.  It has been years since I deployed
one of these.  And it was an early one that lost its radome during
the first windstorm.
What is the true FDX throughput?  Is there an up down ratio of an
aggregate throughput or?
Interwebs say 1.4 Gbps.  Not sure if that is split up or not.

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

[Josh Luthman]

Half a mile should be OK, just depends how hard it is raining.  If it's for
911 service I'd look elsewhere but if it's just for porntube you'll be fine.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Thanks.  Hope it will do that for a half mile during a Utah rain.
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2016 12:49 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF24
>
> 700 mbps full duplex, there's no changing the sync ratio
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> I just picked up a used AF24.  It has been years since I deployed one of
>> these.  And it was an early one that lost its radome during the first
>> windstorm.
>>
>> What is the true FDX throughput?  Is there an up down ratio of an
>> aggregate throughput or?
>> Interwebs say 1.4 Gbps.  Not sure if that is split up or not.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

[Chuck McCown]

Thanks.  Hope it will do that for a half mile during a Utah rain.  

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 12:49 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF24

700 mbps full duplex, there's no changing the sync ratio


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  I just picked up a used AF24.  It has been years since I deployed one of 
these.  And it was an early one that lost its radome during the first windstorm.

  What is the true FDX throughput?  Is there an up down ratio of an aggregate 
throughput or?  
  Interwebs say 1.4 Gbps.  Not sure if that is split up or not.  

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

[Eric Kuhnke]

Assuming 2 x 100 MHz FDD channels high and low, the AF24s are close enough
to each other to stay in their best 64QAM modulation, it's 730-740 Mbps
each direction. Full duplex.

It can also operate in a single 100 MHz channel in which case the capacity
is much less.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> I just picked up a used AF24.  It has been years since I deployed one of
> these.  And it was an early one that lost its radome during the first
> windstorm.
>
> What is the true FDX throughput?  Is there an up down ratio of an
> aggregate throughput or?
> Interwebs say 1.4 Gbps.  Not sure if that is split up or not.
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

[Josh Luthman]

700 mbps full duplex, there's no changing the sync ratio


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> I just picked up a used AF24.  It has been years since I deployed one of
> these.  And it was an early one that lost its radome during the first
> windstorm.
>
> What is the true FDX throughput?  Is there an up down ratio of an
> aggregate throughput or?
> Interwebs say 1.4 Gbps.  Not sure if that is split up or not.
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

[Mike Hammett]

700 megabit in one direction, FDX. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 1:48:43 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] AF24 




I just picked up a used AF24. It has been years since I deployed one of these. 
And it was an early one that lost its radome during the first windstorm. 

What is the true FDX throughput? Is there an up down ratio of an aggregate 
throughput or? 
Interwebs say 1.4 Gbps. Not sure if that is split up or not. 

[AFMUG] AF24

[Chuck McCown]

I just picked up a used AF24.  It has been years since I deployed one of these. 
 And it was an early one that lost its radome during the first windstorm.

What is the true FDX throughput?  Is there an up down ratio of an aggregate 
throughput or?  
Interwebs say 1.4 Gbps.  Not sure if that is split up or not.  

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 doing odd thing.

[Jaime Solorza]

Yep. Work gets in the way of drinking time..

On Jul 22, 2016 2:13 PM, "Sam Lambie"  wrote:

> Is it beer30 already? Yess!!
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Jaime Solorza  > wrote:
>
>> Cool... Now time to start weekend drinking .   Crowd cheers.
>>
>> On Jul 22, 2016 8:58 AM, "Sam Lambie"  wrote:
>>
>> I performed a firmware upgrade and enabled GPS sync on both radios this
>> morning. Voila! Fixed.
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 7:05 AM, Jaime Solorza > > wrote:
>>
>>> Have a buddy who has several hundred links using Ubiquiti and Cambium
>>> for WISP side of his business but for his two way radio business
>>> (management ,monitoring,  and video surveillance)  he has three Airaya ptp
>>> links he has not touched for six years No frequency changes, nada.
>>>
>>> On Jul 19, 2016 10:26 AM, "Sam Lambie"  wrote:
>>>
 No obstructions of any kind. 900 meter link. Gonna replace the power
 supplies in a couple of days (when they arrive) and reboot the radio here
 tonight. Upgrade to 3.2 late tonight as well.

 On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Sam Lambie 
 wrote:

> Not a bad idea on replacing PSU's. I'll upgrade tonight too.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 7:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> mine used to this before replacing the power supplies and getting
>> them on the newest firmware at the time
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Sam Lambie 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> came back up, but that didn't fix it. I'll tweak on it tomorrow.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Sam Lambie 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Firmware 2.0  with 598 days uptime. Just rebooted the sucker.
 Hopefully it comes back up...

 On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:

> The AF24 GUI with the current firmware doesn't report
> null/complete loss of signal if it's receiving nothing on one chain? 
> Maybe
> Chuck from ubnt can confirm?
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 4:24 PM, George Skorup 
> wrote:
>
>> Look at your remote mod rate. 1X. That's what the remote is
>> transmitting towards the local end. I believe when they're in SISO, 
>> the
>> Chain 1 signal reading is meaningless.
>>
>> On 7/18/2016 6:20 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>>
>> I'll look tomorrow. It's beer 30 here.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Josh Reynolds <
>> j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Anything in the path?
>>>
>>> On Jul 18, 2016 6:11 PM, "Sam Lambie" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I am seeing what I think is interference on a 24 ghz AirFiber.
 I tried changing the channel from 24.1 to 24.2 but no go. Could 
 the radio
 be going bad or is there something else that I am missing?
 The receive levels will bounce from -61 to -47 and then go away
 completely on Chain1. With only 80+ mbps on the capacity.
 Any suggestions welcomed.

 [image: Inline image 1]

 --
 --
 *Sam Lambie*
 Taosnet Wireless Tech.
 575-758-7598 Office
 www.Taosnet.com 

>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>>
>>
>


 --
 --
 *Sam Lambie*
 Taosnet Wireless Tech.
 575-758-7598 Office
 www.Taosnet.com 

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>



 --
 --
 *Sam Lambie*
 Taosnet Wireless Tech.
 575-758-7598 Office
 www.Taosnet.com 

>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 doing odd thing.

[Sam Lambie]

Is it beer30 already? Yess!!


On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Cool... Now time to start weekend drinking .   Crowd cheers.
>
> On Jul 22, 2016 8:58 AM, "Sam Lambie"  wrote:
>
> I performed a firmware upgrade and enabled GPS sync on both radios this
> morning. Voila! Fixed.
>
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 7:05 AM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Have a buddy who has several hundred links using Ubiquiti and Cambium for
>> WISP side of his business but for his two way radio business (management
>> ,monitoring,  and video surveillance)  he has three Airaya ptp links he has
>> not touched for six years No frequency changes, nada.
>>
>> On Jul 19, 2016 10:26 AM, "Sam Lambie"  wrote:
>>
>>> No obstructions of any kind. 900 meter link. Gonna replace the power
>>> supplies in a couple of days (when they arrive) and reboot the radio here
>>> tonight. Upgrade to 3.2 late tonight as well.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Sam Lambie 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Not a bad idea on replacing PSU's. I'll upgrade tonight too.


 On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 7:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> mine used to this before replacing the power supplies and getting them
> on the newest firmware at the time
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Sam Lambie 
> wrote:
>
>> came back up, but that didn't fix it. I'll tweak on it tomorrow.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Sam Lambie 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Firmware 2.0  with 598 days uptime. Just rebooted the sucker.
>>> Hopefully it comes back up...
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 The AF24 GUI with the current firmware doesn't report null/complete
 loss of signal if it's receiving nothing on one chain? Maybe Chuck from
 ubnt can confirm?


 On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 4:24 PM, George Skorup 
 wrote:

> Look at your remote mod rate. 1X. That's what the remote is
> transmitting towards the local end. I believe when they're in SISO, 
> the
> Chain 1 signal reading is meaningless.
>
> On 7/18/2016 6:20 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>
> I'll look tomorrow. It's beer 30 here.
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Josh Reynolds <
> j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>
>> Anything in the path?
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2016 6:11 PM, "Sam Lambie" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am seeing what I think is interference on a 24 ghz AirFiber. I
>>> tried changing the channel from 24.1 to 24.2 but no go. Could the 
>>> radio be
>>> going bad or is there something else that I am missing?
>>> The receive levels will bounce from -61 to -47 and then go away
>>> completely on Chain1. With only 80+ mbps on the capacity.
>>> Any suggestions welcomed.
>>>
>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>
>
>

>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>



 --
 --
 *Sam Lambie*
 Taosnet Wireless Tech.
 575-758-7598 Office
 www.Taosnet.com 

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>
>
>


-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 doing odd thing.

[Sam Lambie]

I performed a firmware upgrade and enabled GPS sync on both radios this
morning. Voila! Fixed.

On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 7:05 AM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Have a buddy who has several hundred links using Ubiquiti and Cambium for
> WISP side of his business but for his two way radio business (management
> ,monitoring,  and video surveillance)  he has three Airaya ptp links he has
> not touched for six years No frequency changes, nada.
>
> On Jul 19, 2016 10:26 AM, "Sam Lambie"  wrote:
>
>> No obstructions of any kind. 900 meter link. Gonna replace the power
>> supplies in a couple of days (when they arrive) and reboot the radio here
>> tonight. Upgrade to 3.2 late tonight as well.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>>
>>> Not a bad idea on replacing PSU's. I'll upgrade tonight too.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 7:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 mine used to this before replacing the power supplies and getting them
 on the newest firmware at the time

 On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Sam Lambie 
 wrote:

> came back up, but that didn't fix it. I'll tweak on it tomorrow.
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Sam Lambie 
> wrote:
>
>> Firmware 2.0  with 598 days uptime. Just rebooted the sucker.
>> Hopefully it comes back up...
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The AF24 GUI with the current firmware doesn't report null/complete
>>> loss of signal if it's receiving nothing on one chain? Maybe Chuck from
>>> ubnt can confirm?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 4:24 PM, George Skorup 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Look at your remote mod rate. 1X. That's what the remote is
 transmitting towards the local end. I believe when they're in SISO, the
 Chain 1 signal reading is meaningless.

 On 7/18/2016 6:20 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:

 I'll look tomorrow. It's beer 30 here.

 On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Josh Reynolds <
 j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

> Anything in the path?
>
> On Jul 18, 2016 6:11 PM, "Sam Lambie" 
> wrote:
>
>> I am seeing what I think is interference on a 24 ghz AirFiber. I
>> tried changing the channel from 24.1 to 24.2 but no go. Could the 
>> radio be
>> going bad or is there something else that I am missing?
>> The receive levels will bounce from -61 to -47 and then go away
>> completely on Chain1. With only 80+ mbps on the capacity.
>> Any suggestions welcomed.
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>


 --
 --
 *Sam Lambie*
 Taosnet Wireless Tech.
 575-758-7598 Office
 www.Taosnet.com 



>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>



 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>


-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 doing odd thing.

[Jaime Solorza]

Have a buddy who has several hundred links using Ubiquiti and Cambium for
WISP side of his business but for his two way radio business (management
,monitoring,  and video surveillance)  he has three Airaya ptp links he has
not touched for six years No frequency changes, nada.

On Jul 19, 2016 10:26 AM, "Sam Lambie"  wrote:

> No obstructions of any kind. 900 meter link. Gonna replace the power
> supplies in a couple of days (when they arrive) and reboot the radio here
> tonight. Upgrade to 3.2 late tonight as well.
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> Not a bad idea on replacing PSU's. I'll upgrade tonight too.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 7:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> mine used to this before replacing the power supplies and getting them
>>> on the newest firmware at the time
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Sam Lambie 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 came back up, but that didn't fix it. I'll tweak on it tomorrow.

 On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Sam Lambie 
 wrote:

> Firmware 2.0  with 598 days uptime. Just rebooted the sucker.
> Hopefully it comes back up...
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
> wrote:
>
>> The AF24 GUI with the current firmware doesn't report null/complete
>> loss of signal if it's receiving nothing on one chain? Maybe Chuck from
>> ubnt can confirm?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 4:24 PM, George Skorup 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Look at your remote mod rate. 1X. That's what the remote is
>>> transmitting towards the local end. I believe when they're in SISO, the
>>> Chain 1 signal reading is meaningless.
>>>
>>> On 7/18/2016 6:20 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>>>
>>> I'll look tomorrow. It's beer 30 here.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Josh Reynolds >> > wrote:
>>>
 Anything in the path?

 On Jul 18, 2016 6:11 PM, "Sam Lambie"  wrote:

> I am seeing what I think is interference on a 24 ghz AirFiber. I
> tried changing the channel from 24.1 to 24.2 but no go. Could the 
> radio be
> going bad or is there something else that I am missing?
> The receive levels will bounce from -61 to -47 and then go away
> completely on Chain1. With only 80+ mbps on the capacity.
> Any suggestions welcomed.
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>

>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>



 --
 --
 *Sam Lambie*
 Taosnet Wireless Tech.
 575-758-7598 Office
 www.Taosnet.com 

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 doing odd thing.

[Sam Morris]

It's funny...I just had the exact same thing happen on a pair of AF_5x 
that had been up and running fine for over a year. They were passing 250 
Mbps one way and 75 Mbps the other when all of a sudden they exhibited 
the same throughput, chain, and modulation issues as you saw with your 
AF24s.


I changed the frequency from 5.2xx to 5.740 GHz and that fixed it (well, 
it is acting as a workaround for now at least). I still don't know for 
sure that there's not a bad radio on one end or the other. Airview is 
out of the question without going onsite since it would take down the 
link used to get to that tower where we need to run the Airview. And 
it's 400 miles away so driving to it is an all-day event.


Or perhaps it was just "pick on a Sam" day. :)
Sam

On 7/19/2016 11:26 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:

No obstructions of any kind. 900 meter link. Gonna replace the power
supplies in a couple of days (when they arrive) and reboot the radio
here tonight. Upgrade to 3.2 late tonight as well.

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Sam Lambie > wrote:

Not a bad idea on replacing PSU's. I'll upgrade tonight too.


On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 7:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
> wrote:

mine used to this before replacing the power supplies and
getting them on the newest firmware at the time

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Sam Lambie
> wrote:

came back up, but that didn't fix it. I'll tweak on it tomorrow.

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Sam Lambie
> wrote:

Firmware 2.0  with 598 days uptime. Just rebooted the
sucker. Hopefully it comes back up...

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Eric Kuhnke
>
wrote:

The AF24 GUI with the current firmware doesn't
report null/complete loss of signal if it's
receiving nothing on one chain? Maybe Chuck from
ubnt can confirm?


On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 4:24 PM, George Skorup
> wrote:

Look at your remote mod rate. 1X. That's what
the remote is transmitting towards the local
end. I believe when they're in SISO, the Chain 1
signal reading is meaningless.

On 7/18/2016 6:20 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:

I'll look tomorrow. It's beer 30 here.

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Josh Reynolds
> wrote:

Anything in the path?


On Jul 18, 2016 6:11 PM, "Sam Lambie"
> wrote:

I am seeing what I think is
interference on a 24 ghz AirFiber. I
tried changing the channel from 24.1
to 24.2 but no go. Could the radio be
going bad or is there something else
that I am missing?
The receive levels will bounce from
-61 to -47 and then go away completely
on Chain1. With only 80+ mbps on the
capacity.
Any suggestions welcomed.

Inline image 1

--
--
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598  Office
www.Taosnet.com 




--
--
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598  Office
www.Taosnet.com 






--
--
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598  Office
www.Taosnet.com 




--
--
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598  Office
www.Taosnet.com 




--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see
 

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 requires power cycle at radio after power failure.

[Ken Hohhof]

Is this a Ubiquiti POE or third party?

I have seen these exact symptoms (on totally different equipment) in cases 
where the power supply couldn’t start up under load and would go into current 
foldback.  But it would work if you unplugged the DC side, then plugged in the 
AC side and let it start up, then plugged in the DC side.

Even if it’s a Ubiquiti POE, you might try swapping out the POE, you might just 
have a bad or weak one.


From: Chris Wright 
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 11:24 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF24 requires power cycle at radio after power failure.

If reseating the RJ connector fixes the issue when a PoE power cycle does not, 
I’d be inclined to think you have a bad crimp or poor contact between the AF 
and Ethernet.

 

Chris Wright

Network Administrator

Velociter Wireless

209-838-1221 x115

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 6:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] AF24 requires power cycle at radio after power failure.

 

We have an AF24 that has twice failed to come back up after a power failure.  
Both times, a power cycle from the POE injector did not resolve the issue but 
unplugging the RJ at the radio did.  Has anyone ever seen anything like this?  
Thoughts?  Other then this, it seems to be working fine.


 

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 requires power cycle at radio after power failure.

[Chris Wright]

If reseating the RJ connector fixes the issue when a PoE power cycle does not, 
I’d be inclined to think you have a bad crimp or poor contact between the AF 
and Ethernet.

Chris Wright
Network Administrator
Velociter Wireless
209-838-1221 x115

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 6:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] AF24 requires power cycle at radio after power failure.

We have an AF24 that has twice failed to come back up after a power failure.  
Both times, a power cycle from the POE injector did not resolve the issue but 
unplugging the RJ at the radio did.  Has anyone ever seen anything like this?  
Thoughts?  Other then this, it seems to be working fine.

[AFMUG] AF24 requires power cycle at radio after power failure.

[Carl Peterson]

We have an AF24 that has twice failed to come back up after a power
failure.  Both times, a power cycle from the POE injector did not resolve
the issue but unplugging the RJ at the radio did.  Has anyone ever seen
anything like this?  Thoughts?  Other then this, it seems to be working
fine.

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 doing odd thing.

[Sam Lambie]

No obstructions of any kind. 900 meter link. Gonna replace the power
supplies in a couple of days (when they arrive) and reboot the radio here
tonight. Upgrade to 3.2 late tonight as well.

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Sam Lambie  wrote:

> Not a bad idea on replacing PSU's. I'll upgrade tonight too.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 7:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> mine used to this before replacing the power supplies and getting them on
>> the newest firmware at the time
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>>
>>> came back up, but that didn't fix it. I'll tweak on it tomorrow.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Sam Lambie 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Firmware 2.0  with 598 days uptime. Just rebooted the sucker. Hopefully
 it comes back up...

 On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
 wrote:

> The AF24 GUI with the current firmware doesn't report null/complete
> loss of signal if it's receiving nothing on one chain? Maybe Chuck from
> ubnt can confirm?
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 4:24 PM, George Skorup 
> wrote:
>
>> Look at your remote mod rate. 1X. That's what the remote is
>> transmitting towards the local end. I believe when they're in SISO, the
>> Chain 1 signal reading is meaningless.
>>
>> On 7/18/2016 6:20 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>>
>> I'll look tomorrow. It's beer 30 here.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Anything in the path?
>>>
>>> On Jul 18, 2016 6:11 PM, "Sam Lambie"  wrote:
>>>
 I am seeing what I think is interference on a 24 ghz AirFiber. I
 tried changing the channel from 24.1 to 24.2 but no go. Could the 
 radio be
 going bad or is there something else that I am missing?
 The receive levels will bounce from -61 to -47 and then go away
 completely on Chain1. With only 80+ mbps on the capacity.
 Any suggestions welcomed.

 [image: Inline image 1]

 --
 --
 *Sam Lambie*
 Taosnet Wireless Tech.
 575-758-7598 Office
 www.Taosnet.com 

>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>>
>>
>


 --
 --
 *Sam Lambie*
 Taosnet Wireless Tech.
 575-758-7598 Office
 www.Taosnet.com 

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>



-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 doing odd thing.

[Sam Lambie]

Not a bad idea on replacing PSU's. I'll upgrade tonight too.


On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 7:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> mine used to this before replacing the power supplies and getting them on
> the newest firmware at the time
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> came back up, but that didn't fix it. I'll tweak on it tomorrow.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>>
>>> Firmware 2.0  with 598 days uptime. Just rebooted the sucker. Hopefully
>>> it comes back up...
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 The AF24 GUI with the current firmware doesn't report null/complete
 loss of signal if it's receiving nothing on one chain? Maybe Chuck from
 ubnt can confirm?


 On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 4:24 PM, George Skorup 
 wrote:

> Look at your remote mod rate. 1X. That's what the remote is
> transmitting towards the local end. I believe when they're in SISO, the
> Chain 1 signal reading is meaningless.
>
> On 7/18/2016 6:20 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>
> I'll look tomorrow. It's beer 30 here.
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> Anything in the path?
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2016 6:11 PM, "Sam Lambie"  wrote:
>>
>>> I am seeing what I think is interference on a 24 ghz AirFiber. I
>>> tried changing the channel from 24.1 to 24.2 but no go. Could the radio 
>>> be
>>> going bad or is there something else that I am missing?
>>> The receive levels will bounce from -61 to -47 and then go away
>>> completely on Chain1. With only 80+ mbps on the capacity.
>>> Any suggestions welcomed.
>>>
>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>
>
>

>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>



-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 doing odd thing.

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

mine used to this before replacing the power supplies and getting them on
the newest firmware at the time

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Sam Lambie  wrote:

> came back up, but that didn't fix it. I'll tweak on it tomorrow.
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> Firmware 2.0  with 598 days uptime. Just rebooted the sucker. Hopefully
>> it comes back up...
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The AF24 GUI with the current firmware doesn't report null/complete loss
>>> of signal if it's receiving nothing on one chain? Maybe Chuck from ubnt can
>>> confirm?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 4:24 PM, George Skorup 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Look at your remote mod rate. 1X. That's what the remote is
 transmitting towards the local end. I believe when they're in SISO, the
 Chain 1 signal reading is meaningless.

 On 7/18/2016 6:20 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:

 I'll look tomorrow. It's beer 30 here.

 On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Josh Reynolds 
 wrote:

> Anything in the path?
>
> On Jul 18, 2016 6:11 PM, "Sam Lambie"  wrote:
>
>> I am seeing what I think is interference on a 24 ghz AirFiber. I
>> tried changing the channel from 24.1 to 24.2 but no go. Could the radio 
>> be
>> going bad or is there something else that I am missing?
>> The receive levels will bounce from -61 to -47 and then go away
>> completely on Chain1. With only 80+ mbps on the capacity.
>> Any suggestions welcomed.
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>


 --
 --
 *Sam Lambie*
 Taosnet Wireless Tech.
 575-758-7598 Office
 www.Taosnet.com 



>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 doing odd thing.

[Sam Lambie]

came back up, but that didn't fix it. I'll tweak on it tomorrow.

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Sam Lambie  wrote:

> Firmware 2.0  with 598 days uptime. Just rebooted the sucker. Hopefully it
> comes back up...
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
> wrote:
>
>> The AF24 GUI with the current firmware doesn't report null/complete loss
>> of signal if it's receiving nothing on one chain? Maybe Chuck from ubnt can
>> confirm?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 4:24 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>>
>>> Look at your remote mod rate. 1X. That's what the remote is transmitting
>>> towards the local end. I believe when they're in SISO, the Chain 1 signal
>>> reading is meaningless.
>>>
>>> On 7/18/2016 6:20 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>>>
>>> I'll look tomorrow. It's beer 30 here.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Anything in the path?

 On Jul 18, 2016 6:11 PM, "Sam Lambie"  wrote:

> I am seeing what I think is interference on a 24 ghz AirFiber. I tried
> changing the channel from 24.1 to 24.2 but no go. Could the radio be going
> bad or is there something else that I am missing?
> The receive levels will bounce from -61 to -47 and then go away
> completely on Chain1. With only 80+ mbps on the capacity.
> Any suggestions welcomed.
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>

>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>



-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 doing odd thing.

[Eric Kuhnke]

That's the scary bad failure mode part of AF24s, in my past experience,
units with long uptimes and/or ones doing something "weird" will fail to
accomplish a software reboot. Might need to send somebody to pull power to
the PoE for ten seconds. I've seen this a half dozen times with different
AF24.



On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Sam Lambie  wrote:

> Firmware 2.0  with 598 days uptime. Just rebooted the sucker. Hopefully it
> comes back up...
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
> wrote:
>
>> The AF24 GUI with the current firmware doesn't report null/complete loss
>> of signal if it's receiving nothing on one chain? Maybe Chuck from ubnt can
>> confirm?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 4:24 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>>
>>> Look at your remote mod rate. 1X. That's what the remote is transmitting
>>> towards the local end. I believe when they're in SISO, the Chain 1 signal
>>> reading is meaningless.
>>>
>>> On 7/18/2016 6:20 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>>>
>>> I'll look tomorrow. It's beer 30 here.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Anything in the path?

 On Jul 18, 2016 6:11 PM, "Sam Lambie"  wrote:

> I am seeing what I think is interference on a 24 ghz AirFiber. I tried
> changing the channel from 24.1 to 24.2 but no go. Could the radio be going
> bad or is there something else that I am missing?
> The receive levels will bounce from -61 to -47 and then go away
> completely on Chain1. With only 80+ mbps on the capacity.
> Any suggestions welcomed.
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>

>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 doing odd thing.

[Sam Lambie]

Firmware 2.0  with 598 days uptime. Just rebooted the sucker. Hopefully it
comes back up...

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:

> The AF24 GUI with the current firmware doesn't report null/complete loss
> of signal if it's receiving nothing on one chain? Maybe Chuck from ubnt can
> confirm?
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 4:24 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
>> Look at your remote mod rate. 1X. That's what the remote is transmitting
>> towards the local end. I believe when they're in SISO, the Chain 1 signal
>> reading is meaningless.
>>
>> On 7/18/2016 6:20 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>>
>> I'll look tomorrow. It's beer 30 here.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Anything in the path?
>>>
>>> On Jul 18, 2016 6:11 PM, "Sam Lambie"  wrote:
>>>
 I am seeing what I think is interference on a 24 ghz AirFiber. I tried
 changing the channel from 24.1 to 24.2 but no go. Could the radio be going
 bad or is there something else that I am missing?
 The receive levels will bounce from -61 to -47 and then go away
 completely on Chain1. With only 80+ mbps on the capacity.
 Any suggestions welcomed.

 [image: Inline image 1]

 --
 --
 *Sam Lambie*
 Taosnet Wireless Tech.
 575-758-7598 Office
 www.Taosnet.com 

>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 doing odd thing.

[Sam Lambie]

Yep, I see the 1x. Just trying to figure out which radio it would be and
how best to troubleshoot it.
Josh, got any clarification on what you mean?

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:24 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

> Look at your remote mod rate. 1X. That's what the remote is transmitting
> towards the local end. I believe when they're in SISO, the Chain 1 signal
> reading is meaningless.
>
> On 7/18/2016 6:20 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>
> I'll look tomorrow. It's beer 30 here.
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> Anything in the path?
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2016 6:11 PM, "Sam Lambie"  wrote:
>>
>>> I am seeing what I think is interference on a 24 ghz AirFiber. I tried
>>> changing the channel from 24.1 to 24.2 but no go. Could the radio be going
>>> bad or is there something else that I am missing?
>>> The receive levels will bounce from -61 to -47 and then go away
>>> completely on Chain1. With only 80+ mbps on the capacity.
>>> Any suggestions welcomed.
>>>
>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>
>
>


-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 doing odd thing.

[Eric Kuhnke]

The AF24 GUI with the current firmware doesn't report null/complete loss of
signal if it's receiving nothing on one chain? Maybe Chuck from ubnt can
confirm?


On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 4:24 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

> Look at your remote mod rate. 1X. That's what the remote is transmitting
> towards the local end. I believe when they're in SISO, the Chain 1 signal
> reading is meaningless.
>
> On 7/18/2016 6:20 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>
> I'll look tomorrow. It's beer 30 here.
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> Anything in the path?
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2016 6:11 PM, "Sam Lambie"  wrote:
>>
>>> I am seeing what I think is interference on a 24 ghz AirFiber. I tried
>>> changing the channel from 24.1 to 24.2 but no go. Could the radio be going
>>> bad or is there something else that I am missing?
>>> The receive levels will bounce from -61 to -47 and then go away
>>> completely on Chain1. With only 80+ mbps on the capacity.
>>> Any suggestions welcomed.
>>>
>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 doing odd thing.

[George Skorup]

Look at your remote mod rate. 1X. That's what the remote is transmitting 
towards the local end. I believe when they're in SISO, the Chain 1 
signal reading is meaningless.


On 7/18/2016 6:20 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:

I'll look tomorrow. It's beer 30 here.

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Josh Reynolds > wrote:


Anything in the path?


On Jul 18, 2016 6:11 PM, "Sam Lambie" > wrote:

I am seeing what I think is interference on a 24 ghz AirFiber.
I tried changing the channel from 24.1 to 24.2 but no go.
Could the radio be going bad or is there something else that I
am missing?
The receive levels will bounce from -61 to -47 and then go
away completely on Chain1. With only 80+ mbps on the capacity.
Any suggestions welcomed.

Inline image 1

-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*

Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598  Office
www.Taosnet.com 




--
--
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 doing odd thing.

[Josh Luthman]

Tx one side or Rx the other :(. Someone else had this a while ago.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jul 18, 2016 7:22 PM, "Eric Kuhnke"  wrote:

> Really hard to tell. Have you power cycled the radios on both ends?  If
> that doesn't fix it, swapping for a known good spare unit would be one of
> the next steps.
>
> Or powering off both ends of the link and visiting both ends with a
> 20-30GHz capable portable spectrum analyzer and a horn antenna on a
> portable tripod, but I don't think many people on the list have one of
> those.
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> I am seeing what I think is interference on a 24 ghz AirFiber. I tried
>> changing the channel from 24.1 to 24.2 but no go. Could the radio be going
>> bad or is there something else that I am missing?
>> The receive levels will bounce from -61 to -47 and then go away
>> completely on Chain1. With only 80+ mbps on the capacity.
>> Any suggestions welcomed.
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 doing odd thing.

[Eric Kuhnke]

Really hard to tell. Have you power cycled the radios on both ends?  If
that doesn't fix it, swapping for a known good spare unit would be one of
the next steps.

Or powering off both ends of the link and visiting both ends with a
20-30GHz capable portable spectrum analyzer and a horn antenna on a
portable tripod, but I don't think many people on the list have one of
those.

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Sam Lambie  wrote:

> I am seeing what I think is interference on a 24 ghz AirFiber. I tried
> changing the channel from 24.1 to 24.2 but no go. Could the radio be going
> bad or is there something else that I am missing?
> The receive levels will bounce from -61 to -47 and then go away completely
> on Chain1. With only 80+ mbps on the capacity.
> Any suggestions welcomed.
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 doing odd thing.

[Sam Lambie]

I'll look tomorrow. It's beer 30 here.

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> Anything in the path?
>
> On Jul 18, 2016 6:11 PM, "Sam Lambie"  wrote:
>
>> I am seeing what I think is interference on a 24 ghz AirFiber. I tried
>> changing the channel from 24.1 to 24.2 but no go. Could the radio be going
>> bad or is there something else that I am missing?
>> The receive levels will bounce from -61 to -47 and then go away
>> completely on Chain1. With only 80+ mbps on the capacity.
>> Any suggestions welcomed.
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>


-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 doing odd thing.

[Josh Reynolds]

Anything in the path?

On Jul 18, 2016 6:11 PM, "Sam Lambie"  wrote:

> I am seeing what I think is interference on a 24 ghz AirFiber. I tried
> changing the channel from 24.1 to 24.2 but no go. Could the radio be going
> bad or is there something else that I am missing?
> The receive levels will bounce from -61 to -47 and then go away completely
> on Chain1. With only 80+ mbps on the capacity.
> Any suggestions welcomed.
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>

[AFMUG] AF24 doing odd thing.

[Sam Lambie]

I am seeing what I think is interference on a 24 ghz AirFiber. I tried
changing the channel from 24.1 to 24.2 but no go. Could the radio be going
bad or is there something else that I am missing?
The receive levels will bounce from -61 to -47 and then go away completely
on Chain1. With only 80+ mbps on the capacity.
Any suggestions welcomed.

[image: Inline image 1]

-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 Repairs?

[Eric Kuhnke]

I wonder if they're doing any electronic repairs or if it's less costly for
them to take the body of a dead AF24 and slap a new circuit board in it.

On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 10:48 AM, George Skorup  wrote:

> UBNT? You send them a bad radio and $500 (or $400?), and they send you a
> refurbished unit.
>
>
> On 7/6/2016 12:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>
>> Who is repairing AF24 units? got a couple of out of warranty units with
>> power/ethernet problems
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 Repairs?

[Gino Villarini]

thanks

On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 1:48 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

> UBNT? You send them a bad radio and $500 (or $400?), and they send you a
> refurbished unit.
>
>
> On 7/6/2016 12:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>
>> Who is repairing AF24 units? got a couple of out of warranty units with
>> power/ethernet problems
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 Repairs?

[George Skorup]

UBNT? You send them a bad radio and $500 (or $400?), and they send you a 
refurbished unit.


On 7/6/2016 12:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
Who is repairing AF24 units? got a couple of out of warranty units 
with power/ethernet problems

[AFMUG] AF24 Repairs?

[Gino Villarini]

Who is repairing AF24 units? got a couple of out of warranty units with
power/ethernet problems

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 rebooting and freezing at power events

[Mathew Howard]

We had one that was locking up everytime there was a power failure...
replace the power supply and it hasn't happened again, but the original
faulty power supply had already been replaced way back.

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 11:50 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> There was that initial faulty power supply fiasco with these, though by
> now I would figure those are all in landfills leeching toxins
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 11:42 AM, Jaime Solorza  > wrote:
>
>> We have a voltage regulator on a POP repeater site in maintenance room on
>> roof of 11 story building.   Power would vary allot so equipment had
>> issues... now back hauls, APs and Cisco switches are happy... AC to
>> regulator to UPS to managed power distribution system to equipment..
>> On Jun 16, 2016 10:36 AM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>>
>>> ^ This
>>>
>>> Also, you want to feed it PSW power if you can, not squared/clipped.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Jaime Solorza
>>>  wrote:
>>> > Is power regulated?   Not sure if APCs do that
>>> >
>>> > On Jun 16, 2016 10:29 AM, "Gino Villarini" 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > We have about 50 AF24 links deployed and we are seeing that the units
>>> are
>>> > freezing at power events.  We are using factory PS and the units are
>>> > connected to APC UPS units.
>>> >
>>> > At events, the AF24 requiere a hard reboot in order to get them back to
>>> > work.
>>> >
>>> > Other equipment connected to the UPS do not get affected, not even
>>> reboots.
>>> >
>>> > Any ideas?
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 rebooting and freezing at power events

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

There was that initial faulty power supply fiasco with these, though by now
I would figure those are all in landfills leeching toxins

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 11:42 AM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> We have a voltage regulator on a POP repeater site in maintenance room on
> roof of 11 story building.   Power would vary allot so equipment had
> issues... now back hauls, APs and Cisco switches are happy... AC to
> regulator to UPS to managed power distribution system to equipment..
> On Jun 16, 2016 10:36 AM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>
>> ^ This
>>
>> Also, you want to feed it PSW power if you can, not squared/clipped.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Jaime Solorza
>>  wrote:
>> > Is power regulated?   Not sure if APCs do that
>> >
>> > On Jun 16, 2016 10:29 AM, "Gino Villarini"  wrote:
>> >
>> > We have about 50 AF24 links deployed and we are seeing that the units
>> are
>> > freezing at power events.  We are using factory PS and the units are
>> > connected to APC UPS units.
>> >
>> > At events, the AF24 requiere a hard reboot in order to get them back to
>> > work.
>> >
>> > Other equipment connected to the UPS do not get affected, not even
>> reboots.
>> >
>> > Any ideas?
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 rebooting and freezing at power events

[Jaime Solorza]

We have a voltage regulator on a POP repeater site in maintenance room on
roof of 11 story building.   Power would vary allot so equipment had
issues... now back hauls, APs and Cisco switches are happy... AC to
regulator to UPS to managed power distribution system to equipment..
On Jun 16, 2016 10:36 AM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

> ^ This
>
> Also, you want to feed it PSW power if you can, not squared/clipped.
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Jaime Solorza
>  wrote:
> > Is power regulated?   Not sure if APCs do that
> >
> > On Jun 16, 2016 10:29 AM, "Gino Villarini"  wrote:
> >
> > We have about 50 AF24 links deployed and we are seeing that the units are
> > freezing at power events.  We are using factory PS and the units are
> > connected to APC UPS units.
> >
> > At events, the AF24 requiere a hard reboot in order to get them back to
> > work.
> >
> > Other equipment connected to the UPS do not get affected, not even
> reboots.
> >
> > Any ideas?
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 rebooting and freezing at power events

[Rory Conaway]

Some do, they have a brownout protection feature.  Also check grounding.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 9:34 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF24 rebooting and freezing at power events


Is power regulated?   Not sure if APCs do that
On Jun 16, 2016 10:29 AM, "Gino Villarini" 
<ginovi...@gmail.com<mailto:ginovi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
We have about 50 AF24 links deployed and we are seeing that the units are 
freezing at power events.  We are using factory PS and the units are connected 
to APC UPS units.

At events, the AF24 requiere a hard reboot in order to get them back to work.

Other equipment connected to the UPS do not get affected, not even reboots.

Any ideas?

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 rebooting and freezing at power events

[Josh Reynolds]

^ This

Also, you want to feed it PSW power if you can, not squared/clipped.

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Jaime Solorza
 wrote:
> Is power regulated?   Not sure if APCs do that
>
> On Jun 16, 2016 10:29 AM, "Gino Villarini"  wrote:
>
> We have about 50 AF24 links deployed and we are seeing that the units are
> freezing at power events.  We are using factory PS and the units are
> connected to APC UPS units.
>
> At events, the AF24 requiere a hard reboot in order to get them back to
> work.
>
> Other equipment connected to the UPS do not get affected, not even reboots.
>
> Any ideas?

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 rebooting and freezing at power events

[Jaime Solorza]

Is power regulated?   Not sure if APCs do that
On Jun 16, 2016 10:29 AM, "Gino Villarini"  wrote:

We have about 50 AF24 links deployed and we are seeing that the units are
freezing at power events.  We are using factory PS and the units are
connected to APC UPS units.

At events, the AF24 requiere a hard reboot in order to get them back to
work.

Other equipment connected to the UPS do not get affected, not even reboots.

Any ideas?

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 rebooting and freezing at power events

[Josh Luthman]

Long ethernet run?  Those things are power hungry.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Gino Villarini 
wrote:

> We have about 50 AF24 links deployed and we are seeing that the units are
> freezing at power events.  We are using factory PS and the units are
> connected to APC UPS units.
>
> At events, the AF24 requiere a hard reboot in order to get them back to
> work.
>
> Other equipment connected to the UPS do not get affected, not even reboots.
>
> Any ideas?
>

[AFMUG] AF24 rebooting and freezing at power events

[Gino Villarini]

We have about 50 AF24 links deployed and we are seeing that the units are
freezing at power events.  We are using factory PS and the units are
connected to APC UPS units.

At events, the AF24 requiere a hard reboot in order to get them back to
work.

Other equipment connected to the UPS do not get affected, not even reboots.

Any ideas?

Re: [AFMUG] Af24, Bad transmitter or receiver

[Mike Hammett]

Half of those may go away if they had SFPs on them. ;-) 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Erich Kaiser" <er...@northcentraltower.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 1:18:57 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Af24, Bad transmitter or receiver 


Replace both with something else :) I have a broken AF24 in box and decided we 
would just replace with a licensed link next, tired of dealing with random RF 
and Ethernet issues on these things... 












Erich Kaiser 
North Central Tower 
er...@northcentraltower.com 
Office: 630-621-4804 
Cell: 630-777-9291 



On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Nate Burke < n...@blastcomm.com > wrote: 


I have an AF24 link where one end suddenly lost 15db of rx signal. We have 
checked alignment on both ends, and alignment is good, so I'm thinking a 
hardware problem. Would it be more likely that the the Transmitter is bad, or 
the Receiver went deaf? I'm trying to decide which end to try replacing first. 
Signal level in the opposite direction had no change. 

Re: [AFMUG] Af24, Bad transmitter or receiver

[Erich Kaiser]

Replace both with something else :)  I have a broken AF24 in box and
decided we would just replace with a licensed link next, tired of dealing
with random RF and Ethernet issues on these things...


Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291


On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:

> I have an AF24 link where one end suddenly lost 15db of rx signal. We have
> checked alignment on both ends, and alignment is good, so I'm thinking a
> hardware problem.  Would it be more likely that the the Transmitter is bad,
> or the Receiver went deaf?  I'm trying to decide which end to try replacing
> first.  Signal level in the opposite direction had no change.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Af24, Bad transmitter or receiver

[Ben Moore]

Hi Erich -

What issues have you seen?  Please advise support ticket # so can look into
issues.  Is the AF24 in warranty or looking to have it repaired?

Thanks,
Ben

On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> Half of those may go away if they had SFPs on them.  ;-)
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> --
> *From: *"Erich Kaiser" <er...@northcentraltower.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, October 21, 2015 1:18:57 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Af24, Bad transmitter or receiver
>
> Replace both with something else :)  I have a broken AF24 in box and
> decided we would just replace with a licensed link next, tired of dealing
> with random RF and Ethernet issues on these things...
>
>
> Erich Kaiser
> North Central Tower
> er...@northcentraltower.com
> Office: 630-621-4804
> Cell: 630-777-9291
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
>
>> I have an AF24 link where one end suddenly lost 15db of rx signal. We
>> have checked alignment on both ends, and alignment is good, so I'm thinking
>> a hardware problem.  Would it be more likely that the the Transmitter is
>> bad, or the Receiver went deaf?  I'm trying to decide which end to try
>> replacing first.  Signal level in the opposite direction had no change.
>>
>
>
>

[AFMUG] Af24, Bad transmitter or receiver

[Nate Burke]

I have an AF24 link where one end suddenly lost 15db of rx signal. We 
have checked alignment on both ends, and alignment is good, so I'm 
thinking a hardware problem.  Would it be more likely that the the 
Transmitter is bad, or the Receiver went deaf?  I'm trying to decide 
which end to try replacing first.  Signal level in the opposite 
direction had no change.

Re: [AFMUG] Af24, Bad transmitter or receiver

[Josh Luthman]

Try contacting Ubnt support?

I'd bet tx side but that's nothing more than a guess.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:

> I have an AF24 link where one end suddenly lost 15db of rx signal. We have
> checked alignment on both ends, and alignment is good, so I'm thinking a
> hardware problem.  Would it be more likely that the the Transmitter is bad,
> or the Receiver went deaf?  I'm trying to decide which end to try replacing
> first.  Signal level in the opposite direction had no change.
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 Repairs

[Josh Luthman]

Ubnt thought about doing it...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Aug 13, 2015 6:01 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

 Anybody doing AF24 Repairs?  I have an AF24 where an RJ45 didn't get
 crimped right and buggered up the jack on the radio.  It seems like on a
 $1500 radio, this would be worth repairing.  Anybody doing these?  The
 radio was working fine until the bad crimp was plugged in, now it won't
 make good contact with the pins anymore.

 Nate

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 Repairs

[Josh Luthman]

So you decided to do it!  Can you share the price publicly or is it a case
by case basis?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 Nice Josh...We actually did more than think about it...

 Hi Nate -

 Go ahead and contact support and they will get you details on getting
 refurbished unit going.

 Thanks,
 Ben

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  wrote:

 Ubnt thought about doing it...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Aug 13, 2015 6:01 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

 Anybody doing AF24 Repairs?  I have an AF24 where an RJ45 didn't get
 crimped right and buggered up the jack on the radio.  It seems like on a
 $1500 radio, this would be worth repairing.  Anybody doing these?  The
 radio was working fine until the bad crimp was plugged in, now it won't
 make good contact with the pins anymore.

 Nate

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 Repairs

[Ben Moore]

I would contact support to get details, but basically you are not getting
back your same unit.  You get a refurbished unit and then your unit is
repaired and put back in refurbished stock (there may be more to it than
this...but this is basics ;)).

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 So you decided to do it!  Can you share the price publicly or is it a case
 by case basis?


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 Nice Josh...We actually did more than think about it...

 Hi Nate -

 Go ahead and contact support and they will get you details on getting
 refurbished unit going.

 Thanks,
 Ben

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Ubnt thought about doing it...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Aug 13, 2015 6:01 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

 Anybody doing AF24 Repairs?  I have an AF24 where an RJ45 didn't get
 crimped right and buggered up the jack on the radio.  It seems like on a
 $1500 radio, this would be worth repairing.  Anybody doing these?  The
 radio was working fine until the bad crimp was plugged in, now it won't
 make good contact with the pins anymore.

 Nate

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 Repairs

[George Skorup]

Nope, gotta send one to get one.

On 8/13/2015 5:37 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


O.o can I buy refurbs without a new one?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Aug 13, 2015 6:36 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com 
mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:


No, it is flat fee.  Some may not be able to be repaired
(lighting, etc...).  I believe cost is $400, but you can confirm
with support.  There may be others out there that will do for less
(for smaller repairs), so you could definitely look around.

Thanks,
Ben

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

So is the pricing dependent on what is wrong?  Like a bad RJ45
port with no other issues would be less than say the RF is
Fried, or took a lightening strike?


On 8/13/2015 5:26 PM, Ben Moore wrote:

I would contact support to get details, but basically you are
not getting back your same unit.  You get a refurbished unit
and then your unit is repaired and put back in refurbished
stock (there may be more to it than this...but this is basics
;)).

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

So you decided to do it!  Can you share the price
publicly or is it a case by case basis?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Ben Moore
ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

Nice Josh...We actually did more than think about it...

Hi Nate -

Go ahead and contact support and they will get you
details on getting refurbished unit going.

Thanks,
Ben

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

Ubnt thought about doing it...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Aug 13, 2015 6:01 PM, Nate Burke
n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com
wrote:

Anybody doing AF24 Repairs?  I have an AF24
where an RJ45 didn't get crimped right and
buggered up the jack on the radio. It seems
like on a $1500 radio, this would be worth
repairing. Anybody doing these? The radio was
working fine until the bad crimp was plugged
in, now it won't make good contact with the
pins anymore.

Nate

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 Repairs

[Josh Luthman]

Buying Af24 will pay $100 even if it doesn't work!!!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Aug 13, 2015 6:41 PM, George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com wrote:

 Nope, gotta send one to get one.

 On 8/13/2015 5:37 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 O.o can I buy refurbs without a new one?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Aug 13, 2015 6:36 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 No, it is flat fee.  Some may not be able to be repaired (lighting,
 etc...).  I believe cost is $400, but you can confirm with support.  There
 may be others out there that will do for less (for smaller repairs), so you
 could definitely look around.

 Thanks,
 Ben

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

 So is the pricing dependent on what is wrong?  Like a bad RJ45 port with
 no other issues would be less than say the RF is Fried, or took a
 lightening strike?


 On 8/13/2015 5:26 PM, Ben Moore wrote:

 I would contact support to get details, but basically you are not
 getting back your same unit.  You get a refurbished unit and then your unit
 is repaired and put back in refurbished stock (there may be more to it than
 this...but this is basics ;)).

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 So you decided to do it!  Can you share the price publicly or is it a
 case by case basis?


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 Nice Josh...We actually did more than think about it...

 Hi Nate -

 Go ahead and contact support and they will get you details on getting
 refurbished unit going.

 Thanks,
 Ben

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Ubnt thought about doing it...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Aug 13, 2015 6:01 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

 Anybody doing AF24 Repairs?  I have an AF24 where an RJ45 didn't get
 crimped right and buggered up the jack on the radio.  It seems like on a
 $1500 radio, this would be worth repairing.  Anybody doing these?  The
 radio was working fine until the bad crimp was plugged in, now it won't
 make good contact with the pins anymore.

 Nate

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 Repairs

[Nate Burke]

So is the pricing dependent on what is wrong?  Like a bad RJ45 port with 
no other issues would be less than say the RF is Fried, or took a 
lightening strike?



On 8/13/2015 5:26 PM, Ben Moore wrote:
I would contact support to get details, but basically you are not 
getting back your same unit.  You get a refurbished unit and then your 
unit is repaired and put back in refurbished stock (there may be more 
to it than this...but this is basics ;)).


On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:


So you decided to do it!  Can you share the price publicly or is
it a case by case basis?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com
mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

Nice Josh...We actually did more than think about it...

Hi Nate -

Go ahead and contact support and they will get you details on
getting refurbished unit going.

Thanks,
Ben

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

Ubnt thought about doing it...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Aug 13, 2015 6:01 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

Anybody doing AF24 Repairs?  I have an AF24 where an
RJ45 didn't get crimped right and buggered up the jack
on the radio.  It seems like on a $1500 radio, this
would be worth repairing.  Anybody doing these?  The
radio was working fine until the bad crimp was plugged
in, now it won't make good contact with the pins anymore.

Nate

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 Repairs

[Josh Luthman]

O.o can I buy refurbs without a new one?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Aug 13, 2015 6:36 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 No, it is flat fee.  Some may not be able to be repaired (lighting,
 etc...).  I believe cost is $400, but you can confirm with support.  There
 may be others out there that will do for less (for smaller repairs), so you
 could definitely look around.

 Thanks,
 Ben

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

 So is the pricing dependent on what is wrong?  Like a bad RJ45 port with
 no other issues would be less than say the RF is Fried, or took a
 lightening strike?


 On 8/13/2015 5:26 PM, Ben Moore wrote:

 I would contact support to get details, but basically you are not getting
 back your same unit.  You get a refurbished unit and then your unit is
 repaired and put back in refurbished stock (there may be more to it than
 this...but this is basics ;)).

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 So you decided to do it!  Can you share the price publicly or is it a
 case by case basis?


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 Nice Josh...We actually did more than think about it...

 Hi Nate -

 Go ahead and contact support and they will get you details on getting
 refurbished unit going.

 Thanks,
 Ben

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Ubnt thought about doing it...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Aug 13, 2015 6:01 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

 Anybody doing AF24 Repairs?  I have an AF24 where an RJ45 didn't get
 crimped right and buggered up the jack on the radio.  It seems like on a
 $1500 radio, this would be worth repairing.  Anybody doing these?  The
 radio was working fine until the bad crimp was plugged in, now it won't
 make good contact with the pins anymore.

 Nate

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 Repairs

[Ben Moore]

Yes, that is the idea...  ;)

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 No you're buying a refurb.  That's freaking sweet!!!  No waiting 90 days
 or something stupid.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Aug 13, 2015 6:30 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

 So is the pricing dependent on what is wrong?  Like a bad RJ45 port with
 no other issues would be less than say the RF is Fried, or took a
 lightening strike?


 On 8/13/2015 5:26 PM, Ben Moore wrote:

 I would contact support to get details, but basically you are not getting
 back your same unit.  You get a refurbished unit and then your unit is
 repaired and put back in refurbished stock (there may be more to it than
 this...but this is basics ;)).

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 So you decided to do it!  Can you share the price publicly or is it a
 case by case basis?


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 Nice Josh...We actually did more than think about it...

 Hi Nate -

 Go ahead and contact support and they will get you details on getting
 refurbished unit going.

 Thanks,
 Ben

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Ubnt thought about doing it...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Aug 13, 2015 6:01 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

 Anybody doing AF24 Repairs?  I have an AF24 where an RJ45 didn't get
 crimped right and buggered up the jack on the radio.  It seems like on a
 $1500 radio, this would be worth repairing.  Anybody doing these?  The
 radio was working fine until the bad crimp was plugged in, now it won't
 make good contact with the pins anymore.

 Nate

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 Repairs

[Ben Moore]

No, it is flat fee.  Some may not be able to be repaired (lighting,
etc...).  I believe cost is $400, but you can confirm with support.  There
may be others out there that will do for less (for smaller repairs), so you
could definitely look around.

Thanks,
Ben

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

 So is the pricing dependent on what is wrong?  Like a bad RJ45 port with
 no other issues would be less than say the RF is Fried, or took a
 lightening strike?


 On 8/13/2015 5:26 PM, Ben Moore wrote:

 I would contact support to get details, but basically you are not getting
 back your same unit.  You get a refurbished unit and then your unit is
 repaired and put back in refurbished stock (there may be more to it than
 this...but this is basics ;)).

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  wrote:

 So you decided to do it!  Can you share the price publicly or is it a
 case by case basis?


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 Nice Josh...We actually did more than think about it...

 Hi Nate -

 Go ahead and contact support and they will get you details on getting
 refurbished unit going.

 Thanks,
 Ben

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Ubnt thought about doing it...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Aug 13, 2015 6:01 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

 Anybody doing AF24 Repairs?  I have an AF24 where an RJ45 didn't get
 crimped right and buggered up the jack on the radio.  It seems like on a
 $1500 radio, this would be worth repairing.  Anybody doing these?  The
 radio was working fine until the bad crimp was plugged in, now it won't
 make good contact with the pins anymore.

 Nate

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 Repairs

[Ben Moore]

Yes, you can just reach out to supp...@ubnt.com for OOW repairs.

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Work timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote:

 Who's the right support contact? I don't know if it was due to you guys
 did not have things in place yet or what but I got the run around for 4
 months this past winter until you finally said you refuse out of warranty
 repairs was for AF24 so is there something official in place yet Ben?

 —
 Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox


 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 7:07 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote:

 For an bad ethernet jack, just take it apart and find a new jack using
 the part number and buy a $70 smd rework station and flow a new one on in 5
 minutes or less?

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Buying Af24 will pay $100 even if it doesn't work!!!

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Aug 13, 2015 6:41 PM, George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com wrote:

 Nope, gotta send one to get one.

 On 8/13/2015 5:37 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 O.o can I buy refurbs without a new one?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Aug 13, 2015 6:36 PM, Ben Moore  ben.mo...@ubnt.com
 ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 No, it is flat fee.  Some may not be able to be repaired (lighting,
 etc...).  I believe cost is $400, but you can confirm with support.  There
 may be others out there that will do for less (for smaller repairs), so 
 you
 could definitely look around.

 Thanks,
 Ben

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com
 wrote:

 So is the pricing dependent on what is wrong?  Like a bad RJ45 port
 with no other issues would be less than say the RF is Fried, or took a
 lightening strike?


 On 8/13/2015 5:26 PM, Ben Moore wrote:

 I would contact support to get details, but basically you are not
 getting back your same unit.  You get a refurbished unit and then your 
 unit
 is repaired and put back in refurbished stock (there may be more to it 
 than
 this...but this is basics ;)).

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.comj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 So you decided to do it!  Can you share the price publicly or is it
 a case by case basis?


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com
 wrote:

 Nice Josh...We actually did more than think about it...

 Hi Nate -

 Go ahead and contact support and they will get you details on
 getting refurbished unit going.

 Thanks,
 Ben

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.comj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Ubnt thought about doing it...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Aug 13, 2015 6:01 PM, Nate Burke  n...@blastcomm.com
 n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

 Anybody doing AF24 Repairs?  I have an AF24 where an RJ45 didn't
 get crimped right and buggered up the jack on the radio.  It seems 
 like on
 a $1500 radio, this would be worth repairing.  Anybody doing these?  
 The
 radio was working fine until the bad crimp was plugged in, now it 
 won't
 make good contact with the pins anymore.

 Nate

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 Repairs

[George Skorup]

Or... just send it to PDMnet. I sent one with a bad data port PHY or 
something deeper and it couldn't be fixed though, but now UBNT is doing 
the refurb thing so it's all good. Which reminds me that I have too much 
shit to do and forgot to send it in.. again.


On 8/13/2015 6:07 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
For an bad ethernet jack, just take it apart and find a new jack using 
the part number and buy a $70 smd rework station and flow a new one on 
in 5 minutes or less?


On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:


Buying Af24 will pay $100 even if it doesn't work!!!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Aug 13, 2015 6:41 PM, George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com
mailto:geo...@cbcast.com wrote:

Nope, gotta send one to get one.

On 8/13/2015 5:37 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


O.o can I buy refurbs without a new one?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Aug 13, 2015 6:36 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com
mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

No, it is flat fee.  Some may not be able to be repaired
(lighting, etc...).  I believe cost is $400, but you can
confirm with support.  There may be others out there that
will do for less (for smaller repairs), so you could
definitely look around.

Thanks,
Ben

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Nate Burke
n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

So is the pricing dependent on what is wrong?  Like a
bad RJ45 port with no other issues would be less than
say the RF is Fried, or took a lightening strike?


On 8/13/2015 5:26 PM, Ben Moore wrote:

I would contact support to get details, but
basically you are not getting back your same unit. 
You get a refurbished unit and then your unit is

repaired and put back in refurbished stock (there
may be more to it than this...but this is basics ;)).

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

So you decided to do it!  Can you share the
price publicly or is it a case by case basis?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Ben Moore
ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com
wrote:

Nice Josh...We actually did more than think
about it...

Hi Nate -

Go ahead and contact support and they will
get you details on getting refurbished unit
going.

Thanks,
Ben

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Josh
Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

Ubnt thought about doing it...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Aug 13, 2015 6:01 PM, Nate Burke
n...@blastcomm.com
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

Anybody doing AF24 Repairs?  I have
an AF24 where an RJ45 didn't get
crimped right and buggered up the
jack on the radio.  It seems like on
a $1500 radio, this would be worth
repairing. Anybody doing these?  The
radio was working fine until the bad
crimp was plugged in, now it won't
make good contact with the pins anymore.

Nate

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 Repairs

[Ben Moore]

Have to send in repairable unit ;)  I am sure there are some other things
too...support can help ;)

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 O.o can I buy refurbs without a new one?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Aug 13, 2015 6:36 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 No, it is flat fee.  Some may not be able to be repaired (lighting,
 etc...).  I believe cost is $400, but you can confirm with support.  There
 may be others out there that will do for less (for smaller repairs), so you
 could definitely look around.

 Thanks,
 Ben

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

 So is the pricing dependent on what is wrong?  Like a bad RJ45 port with
 no other issues would be less than say the RF is Fried, or took a
 lightening strike?


 On 8/13/2015 5:26 PM, Ben Moore wrote:

 I would contact support to get details, but basically you are not
 getting back your same unit.  You get a refurbished unit and then your unit
 is repaired and put back in refurbished stock (there may be more to it than
 this...but this is basics ;)).

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 So you decided to do it!  Can you share the price publicly or is it a
 case by case basis?


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 Nice Josh...We actually did more than think about it...

 Hi Nate -

 Go ahead and contact support and they will get you details on getting
 refurbished unit going.

 Thanks,
 Ben

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Ubnt thought about doing it...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Aug 13, 2015 6:01 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

 Anybody doing AF24 Repairs?  I have an AF24 where an RJ45 didn't get
 crimped right and buggered up the jack on the radio.  It seems like on a
 $1500 radio, this would be worth repairing.  Anybody doing these?  The
 radio was working fine until the bad crimp was plugged in, now it won't
 make good contact with the pins anymore.

 Nate