Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

There are two separate issues that I'm aware of which would prevent the
450i from getting sync assuming good pulses coming out of the injector...

The first is the power polarity swap we described.  It's going to prevent a
450i from getting sync ever.

The second is the issue with the transition noise sensitivity.  In general,
if the sync pulse has some noise (bounce, etc.) at the transition periods,
then the internal digital circuitry will see multiple pulses, which causes
the radio to ignore all of them.  There is a hidden command which permits
the  reception of a sync pulse with the multiple pulses in this case.
Occasionally this will be intermittent based on external variables
(changing high power RF environment, etc).

There is of course the issue that the sync pulse isn't present at all.
Assuming an out of the box powerinjector+sync, and a well-positioned GPS
device, this isn't likely, although it could explain the 15 minute delay
since it takes that long sometimes for the GPS to get the initial lock at a
new location... but generally if you're getting one and only one yellow led
blink a second on the injector, this won't be the issue.

On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 8:43 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> I just hooked up the power injector to a 50 volt supply with the polarity
> shown on the power connector.  Didn’t realize there were jumpers inside.
> The 450i started receiving sync about 15 minutes later.  I had about 260
> feet of cable total.
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Friday, November 25, 2016 8:06 AM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync
>
> Well... I think that explains my problem. I'll have to check, but I on the
> sites where I'm having problems, I'm powering airfibers with the same
> injectors, and I think I just set the polarity the same on all the ports to
> simplify things...
>
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 12:56 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> The 450i will power on with any polarity. So you can put + on 4&5 and -
>> and 7&8 and it will still power on...However, for sync to be received, 4&5
>> needs to be return, and 7&8 needs to be power.
>>
>> If you are powering on all 4 pairs, you still need to honor this
>> polarization on 4&5 and 7&8 for sync to be able to be received.   You can
>> put either polarity on 1&2 and on 3&6.
>>
>> -forrest
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 11:32 PM, George Skorup 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm confused. A 450i will receive sync with return on 4&5 and +48VDC on
>>> 7&8 only, i.e. standard Canopy polarity? 4-pair powering + sync over power
>>> is not supported? That would be news to me.
>>>
>>> But yeah, for my 450i cluster, I put +48VDC on PowerA, plugged the
>>> radios in and sync works fine.
>>>
>>> On 11/25/2016 12:17 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
>>>
>>> Whoah.
>>>
>>> You say 'switch polarity of the pins'.
>>>
>>> That's wrong.   A 450i should be hooked up exactly the same as a 450,
>>> just at 48VDC, not 24V.  If it isn't, it will power on, but won't receive
>>> sync.
>>>
>>> -forrest
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just logged into the AP tonight and still not receiving sync over
>>>> power. Here are the details of my setup:
>>>>
>>>> AP firmware: 14.2.1
>>>> cable lengh from Syncpipe to Sync Injector: 8 feet
>>>> cable lengh from Powerinjector to AP: 15 feet
>>>> Syncpipe Deluxe is Revision H or H1
>>>> Powerinjector is daisy chained from a Syncinjector that is receiving
>>>> timing pulse (Have a 3.65ghz 450AP that is receiving sync over power from
>>>> this injector)
>>>>
>>>> I don't have any Site Monitor or Base Units to verify if the sync is
>>>> turned on at the injector but I just received the injector last week brand
>>>> new. I do have a Sync Box for Aux port I could throw on this AP and see if
>>>> I can get sync working that way. If I really feel like it I could set the
>>>> injector up for 24v power, switch polarity on pins and verify that a
>>>> regular 450 AP can recive sync from this injector. But I am guessing this
>>>> may be an issue related to 450i
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 6:39 PM, George Skorup 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>&g

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[Chuck McCown]

I just hooked up the power injector to a 50 volt supply with the polarity shown 
on the power connector.  Didn’t realize there were jumpers inside.  The 450i 
started receiving sync about 15 minutes later.  I had about 260 feet of cable 
total.  

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 8:06 AM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

Well... I think that explains my problem. I'll have to check, but I on the 
sites where I'm having problems, I'm powering airfibers with the same 
injectors, and I think I just set the polarity the same on all the ports to 
simplify things...


On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 12:56 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
 wrote:

  The 450i will power on with any polarity. So you can put + on 4&5 and - and 
7&8 and it will still power on...However, for sync to be received, 4&5 needs to 
be return, and 7&8 needs to be power. 

  If you are powering on all 4 pairs, you still need to honor this polarization 
on 4&5 and 7&8 for sync to be able to be received.   You can put either 
polarity on 1&2 and on 3&6.

  -forrest



  On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 11:32 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

I'm confused. A 450i will receive sync with return on 4&5 and +48VDC on 7&8 
only, i.e. standard Canopy polarity? 4-pair powering + sync over power is not 
supported? That would be news to me.

But yeah, for my 450i cluster, I put +48VDC on PowerA, plugged the radios 
in and sync works fine.


On 11/25/2016 12:17 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:

  Whoah. 

  You say 'switch polarity of the pins'.

  That's wrong.   A 450i should be hooked up exactly the same as a 450, 
just at 48VDC, not 24V.  If it isn't, it will power on, but won't receive sync.

  -forrest

  On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
 wrote:

Just logged into the AP tonight and still not receiving sync over 
power. Here are the details of my setup:

AP firmware: 14.2.1
cable lengh from Syncpipe to Sync Injector: 8 feet 
cable lengh from Powerinjector to AP: 15 feet
Syncpipe Deluxe is Revision H or H1
Powerinjector is daisy chained from a Syncinjector that is receiving 
timing pulse (Have a 3.65ghz 450AP that is receiving sync over power from this 
injector)

I don't have any Site Monitor or Base Units to verify if the sync is 
turned on at the injector but I just received the injector last week brand new. 
I do have a Sync Box for Aux port I could throw on this AP and see if I can get 
sync working that way. If I really feel like it I could set the injector up for 
24v power, switch polarity on pins and verify that a regular 450 AP can recive 
sync from this injector. But I am guessing this may be an issue related to 450i



On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 6:39 PM, George Skorup  
wrote:

  BTW, the GigE PowerInjector+Sync that I have at the NOC running the 
four 450i's is the newest I have with s/n 118966. It has a pretty old Rev G 
Deluxe pipe on it, which is attached to the ice bridge about 6" off of the 
wall, but has a decent view of the west and south and is tracking 10 out of 12 
sats. About 190 feet of cable to the radios. And they haven't lost sync since 
they've been up, about three weeks. And I just jinxed it knowing my luck.


  On 11/24/2016 5:27 PM, George Skorup wrote:

If the orange LED is blinking, then the injector is receiving sync, 
and 1PPS Active should = 1 (if you have a base unit connected to see it).

Kurt, what software is your 450i running? FWIW, I have a limited 
number of 450i APs up, but I have some on SyncBox Junior's (don't get the GPS 
data) and the one PowerInjector+Sync at the NOC. All of my 450 and 450i is 
running 14.1.2. Perhaps Cambium changed something in 14.2+.

I would verify that the port has sync enabled. Obviously you'd need 
a base unit connected. I've plugged radios in backwards on more than one 
occasion. Injector upside down for one reason or another, so the radios ended 
up 4 thru 1 instead of 1 thru 4 because I wasn't paying attention. Port 4 is at 
the end closest to the SyncPipe/sync daisy chain ports. That's the most obvious 
issue if you turned off the sync pulse on a port to run an AirFiber. But if 
multiple people have had the same problem, then my theory is bunk.


On 11/24/2016 4:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  I had that same problem last week. Finally started working on its 
own.  

  From: Kurt Fankhauser 
      Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 3:14 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

  Ok, I just put a new PMP450i on a tower and am running into the 
exact same problem the Original Poster had here. I have the Gigabit Power 
Inje

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[Mathew Howard]

Well... I think that explains my problem. I'll have to check, but I on the
sites where I'm having problems, I'm powering airfibers with the same
injectors, and I think I just set the polarity the same on all the ports to
simplify things...

On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 12:56 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> The 450i will power on with any polarity. So you can put + on 4&5 and -
> and 7&8 and it will still power on...However, for sync to be received, 4&5
> needs to be return, and 7&8 needs to be power.
>
> If you are powering on all 4 pairs, you still need to honor this
> polarization on 4&5 and 7&8 for sync to be able to be received.   You can
> put either polarity on 1&2 and on 3&6.
>
> -forrest
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 11:32 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
>> I'm confused. A 450i will receive sync with return on 4&5 and +48VDC on
>> 7&8 only, i.e. standard Canopy polarity? 4-pair powering + sync over power
>> is not supported? That would be news to me.
>>
>> But yeah, for my 450i cluster, I put +48VDC on PowerA, plugged the radios
>> in and sync works fine.
>>
>> On 11/25/2016 12:17 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
>>
>> Whoah.
>>
>> You say 'switch polarity of the pins'.
>>
>> That's wrong.   A 450i should be hooked up exactly the same as a 450,
>> just at 48VDC, not 24V.  If it isn't, it will power on, but won't receive
>> sync.
>>
>> -forrest
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just logged into the AP tonight and still not receiving sync over power.
>>> Here are the details of my setup:
>>>
>>> AP firmware: 14.2.1
>>> cable lengh from Syncpipe to Sync Injector: 8 feet
>>> cable lengh from Powerinjector to AP: 15 feet
>>> Syncpipe Deluxe is Revision H or H1
>>> Powerinjector is daisy chained from a Syncinjector that is receiving
>>> timing pulse (Have a 3.65ghz 450AP that is receiving sync over power from
>>> this injector)
>>>
>>> I don't have any Site Monitor or Base Units to verify if the sync is
>>> turned on at the injector but I just received the injector last week brand
>>> new. I do have a Sync Box for Aux port I could throw on this AP and see if
>>> I can get sync working that way. If I really feel like it I could set the
>>> injector up for 24v power, switch polarity on pins and verify that a
>>> regular 450 AP can recive sync from this injector. But I am guessing this
>>> may be an issue related to 450i
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 6:39 PM, George Skorup 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> BTW, the GigE PowerInjector+Sync that I have at the NOC running the
>>>> four 450i's is the newest I have with s/n 118966. It has a pretty old Rev G
>>>> Deluxe pipe on it, which is attached to the ice bridge about 6" off of the
>>>> wall, but has a decent view of the west and south and is tracking 10 out of
>>>> 12 sats. About 190 feet of cable to the radios. And they haven't lost sync
>>>> since they've been up, about three weeks. And I just jinxed it knowing my
>>>> luck.
>>>>
>>>> On 11/24/2016 5:27 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If the orange LED is blinking, then the injector is receiving sync, and
>>>> 1PPS Active should = 1 (if you have a base unit connected to see it).
>>>>
>>>> Kurt, what software is your 450i running? FWIW, I have a limited number
>>>> of 450i APs up, but I have some on SyncBox Junior's (don't get the GPS
>>>> data) and the one PowerInjector+Sync at the NOC. All of my 450 and 450i is
>>>> running 14.1.2. Perhaps Cambium changed something in 14.2+.
>>>>
>>>> I would verify that the port has sync enabled. Obviously you'd need a
>>>> base unit connected. I've plugged radios in backwards on more than one
>>>> occasion. Injector upside down for one reason or another, so the radios
>>>> ended up 4 thru 1 instead of 1 thru 4 because I wasn't paying attention.
>>>> Port 4 is at the end closest to the SyncPipe/sync daisy chain ports. That's
>>>> the most obvious issue if you turned off the sync pulse on a port to run an
>>>> AirFiber. But if multiple people have had the same problem, then my theory
>>>> is bunk.
>>>>
>&g

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[Kurt Fankhauser]

Well that is probably why I am not receiving sync over power then. I
assumed that since the 450i was 802.3at compatible that I had to set the
internal jumpers on the Power Injector to pins 4,5 + and pins 7,8 -. You
saying it will not receive sync over power with that configuration? I was
un-aware that any product could accept power both ways! So its pins 4,5-
and pins 7,8+ to get sync over the power? Wow that is pretty unique.

On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 1:56 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> The 450i will power on with any polarity. So you can put + on 4&5 and -
> and 7&8 and it will still power on...However, for sync to be received, 4&5
> needs to be return, and 7&8 needs to be power.
>
> If you are powering on all 4 pairs, you still need to honor this
> polarization on 4&5 and 7&8 for sync to be able to be received.   You can
> put either polarity on 1&2 and on 3&6.
>
> -forrest
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 11:32 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
>> I'm confused. A 450i will receive sync with return on 4&5 and +48VDC on
>> 7&8 only, i.e. standard Canopy polarity? 4-pair powering + sync over power
>> is not supported? That would be news to me.
>>
>> But yeah, for my 450i cluster, I put +48VDC on PowerA, plugged the radios
>> in and sync works fine.
>>
>> On 11/25/2016 12:17 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
>>
>> Whoah.
>>
>> You say 'switch polarity of the pins'.
>>
>> That's wrong.   A 450i should be hooked up exactly the same as a 450,
>> just at 48VDC, not 24V.  If it isn't, it will power on, but won't receive
>> sync.
>>
>> -forrest
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just logged into the AP tonight and still not receiving sync over power.
>>> Here are the details of my setup:
>>>
>>> AP firmware: 14.2.1
>>> cable lengh from Syncpipe to Sync Injector: 8 feet
>>> cable lengh from Powerinjector to AP: 15 feet
>>> Syncpipe Deluxe is Revision H or H1
>>> Powerinjector is daisy chained from a Syncinjector that is receiving
>>> timing pulse (Have a 3.65ghz 450AP that is receiving sync over power from
>>> this injector)
>>>
>>> I don't have any Site Monitor or Base Units to verify if the sync is
>>> turned on at the injector but I just received the injector last week brand
>>> new. I do have a Sync Box for Aux port I could throw on this AP and see if
>>> I can get sync working that way. If I really feel like it I could set the
>>> injector up for 24v power, switch polarity on pins and verify that a
>>> regular 450 AP can recive sync from this injector. But I am guessing this
>>> may be an issue related to 450i
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 6:39 PM, George Skorup 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> BTW, the GigE PowerInjector+Sync that I have at the NOC running the
>>>> four 450i's is the newest I have with s/n 118966. It has a pretty old Rev G
>>>> Deluxe pipe on it, which is attached to the ice bridge about 6" off of the
>>>> wall, but has a decent view of the west and south and is tracking 10 out of
>>>> 12 sats. About 190 feet of cable to the radios. And they haven't lost sync
>>>> since they've been up, about three weeks. And I just jinxed it knowing my
>>>> luck.
>>>>
>>>> On 11/24/2016 5:27 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If the orange LED is blinking, then the injector is receiving sync, and
>>>> 1PPS Active should = 1 (if you have a base unit connected to see it).
>>>>
>>>> Kurt, what software is your 450i running? FWIW, I have a limited number
>>>> of 450i APs up, but I have some on SyncBox Junior's (don't get the GPS
>>>> data) and the one PowerInjector+Sync at the NOC. All of my 450 and 450i is
>>>> running 14.1.2. Perhaps Cambium changed something in 14.2+.
>>>>
>>>> I would verify that the port has sync enabled. Obviously you'd need a
>>>> base unit connected. I've plugged radios in backwards on more than one
>>>> occasion. Injector upside down for one reason or another, so the radios
>>>> ended up 4 thru 1 instead of 1 thru 4 because I wasn't paying attention.
>>>> Port 4 is at the end closest to the SyncPipe/sync daisy chain ports. That's
>>>> the most obvious issue if you turned off the sy

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

The 450i will power on with any polarity. So you can put + on 4&5 and - and
7&8 and it will still power on...However, for sync to be received, 4&5
needs to be return, and 7&8 needs to be power.

If you are powering on all 4 pairs, you still need to honor this
polarization on 4&5 and 7&8 for sync to be able to be received.   You can
put either polarity on 1&2 and on 3&6.

-forrest


On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 11:32 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

> I'm confused. A 450i will receive sync with return on 4&5 and +48VDC on
> 7&8 only, i.e. standard Canopy polarity? 4-pair powering + sync over power
> is not supported? That would be news to me.
>
> But yeah, for my 450i cluster, I put +48VDC on PowerA, plugged the radios
> in and sync works fine.
>
> On 11/25/2016 12:17 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
>
> Whoah.
>
> You say 'switch polarity of the pins'.
>
> That's wrong.   A 450i should be hooked up exactly the same as a 450, just
> at 48VDC, not 24V.  If it isn't, it will power on, but won't receive sync.
>
> -forrest
>
> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  > wrote:
>
>> Just logged into the AP tonight and still not receiving sync over power.
>> Here are the details of my setup:
>>
>> AP firmware: 14.2.1
>> cable lengh from Syncpipe to Sync Injector: 8 feet
>> cable lengh from Powerinjector to AP: 15 feet
>> Syncpipe Deluxe is Revision H or H1
>> Powerinjector is daisy chained from a Syncinjector that is receiving
>> timing pulse (Have a 3.65ghz 450AP that is receiving sync over power from
>> this injector)
>>
>> I don't have any Site Monitor or Base Units to verify if the sync is
>> turned on at the injector but I just received the injector last week brand
>> new. I do have a Sync Box for Aux port I could throw on this AP and see if
>> I can get sync working that way. If I really feel like it I could set the
>> injector up for 24v power, switch polarity on pins and verify that a
>> regular 450 AP can recive sync from this injector. But I am guessing this
>> may be an issue related to 450i
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 6:39 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>>
>>> BTW, the GigE PowerInjector+Sync that I have at the NOC running the four
>>> 450i's is the newest I have with s/n 118966. It has a pretty old Rev G
>>> Deluxe pipe on it, which is attached to the ice bridge about 6" off of the
>>> wall, but has a decent view of the west and south and is tracking 10 out of
>>> 12 sats. About 190 feet of cable to the radios. And they haven't lost sync
>>> since they've been up, about three weeks. And I just jinxed it knowing my
>>> luck.
>>>
>>> On 11/24/2016 5:27 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>>>
>>> If the orange LED is blinking, then the injector is receiving sync, and
>>> 1PPS Active should = 1 (if you have a base unit connected to see it).
>>>
>>> Kurt, what software is your 450i running? FWIW, I have a limited number
>>> of 450i APs up, but I have some on SyncBox Junior's (don't get the GPS
>>> data) and the one PowerInjector+Sync at the NOC. All of my 450 and 450i is
>>> running 14.1.2. Perhaps Cambium changed something in 14.2+.
>>>
>>> I would verify that the port has sync enabled. Obviously you'd need a
>>> base unit connected. I've plugged radios in backwards on more than one
>>> occasion. Injector upside down for one reason or another, so the radios
>>> ended up 4 thru 1 instead of 1 thru 4 because I wasn't paying attention.
>>> Port 4 is at the end closest to the SyncPipe/sync daisy chain ports. That's
>>> the most obvious issue if you turned off the sync pulse on a port to run an
>>> AirFiber. But if multiple people have had the same problem, then my theory
>>> is bunk.
>>>
>>> On 11/24/2016 4:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>
>>> I had that same problem last week. Finally started working on its own.
>>>
>>> *From:* Kurt Fankhauser
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 24, 2016 3:14 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync
>>>
>>> Ok, I just put a new PMP450i on a tower and am running into the exact
>>> same problem the Original Poster had here. I have the Gigabit Power
>>> Injector plus Sync and it is blinking for receiving sync from another Sync
>>> Injector in the same enclosure via the included jumper cable and the AP is
>>> running in Autosync+ Freerun and it is not showi

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[George Skorup]

I'm confused. A 450i will receive sync with return on 4&5 and +48VDC on 
7&8 only, i.e. standard Canopy polarity? 4-pair powering + sync over 
power is not supported? That would be news to me.


But yeah, for my 450i cluster, I put +48VDC on PowerA, plugged the 
radios in and sync works fine.


On 11/25/2016 12:17 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:

Whoah.

You say 'switch polarity of the pins'.

That's wrong.   A 450i should be hooked up exactly the same as a 450, 
just at 48VDC, not 24V.  If it isn't, it will power on, but won't 
receive sync.


-forrest

On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Just logged into the AP tonight and still not receiving sync over
power. Here are the details of my setup:

AP firmware: 14.2.1
cable lengh from Syncpipe to Sync Injector: 8 feet
cable lengh from Powerinjector to AP: 15 feet
Syncpipe Deluxe is Revision H or H1
Powerinjector is daisy chained from a Syncinjector that is
receiving timing pulse (Have a 3.65ghz 450AP that is receiving
sync over power from this injector)

I don't have any Site Monitor or Base Units to verify if the sync
is turned on at the injector but I just received the injector last
week brand new. I do have a Sync Box for Aux port I could throw on
this AP and see if I can get sync working that way. If I really
feel like it I could set the injector up for 24v power, switch
polarity on pins and verify that a regular 450 AP can recive sync
from this injector. But I am guessing this may be an issue related
to 450i



On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 6:39 PM, George Skorup mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote:

BTW, the GigE PowerInjector+Sync that I have at the NOC
running the four 450i's is the newest I have with s/n 118966.
It has a pretty old Rev G Deluxe pipe on it, which is attached
to the ice bridge about 6" off of the wall, but has a decent
view of the west and south and is tracking 10 out of 12 sats.
About 190 feet of cable to the radios. And they haven't lost
sync since they've been up, about three weeks. And I just
jinxed it knowing my luck.

On 11/24/2016 5:27 PM, George Skorup wrote:

If the orange LED is blinking, then the injector is receiving
sync, and 1PPS Active should = 1 (if you have a base unit
connected to see it).

Kurt, what software is your 450i running? FWIW, I have a
limited number of 450i APs up, but I have some on SyncBox
Junior's (don't get the GPS data) and the one
PowerInjector+Sync at the NOC. All of my 450 and 450i is
running 14.1.2. Perhaps Cambium changed something in 14.2+.

I would verify that the port has sync enabled. Obviously
you'd need a base unit connected. I've plugged radios in
backwards on more than one occasion. Injector upside down for
one reason or another, so the radios ended up 4 thru 1
instead of 1 thru 4 because I wasn't paying attention. Port 4
is at the end closest to the SyncPipe/sync daisy chain ports.
That's the most obvious issue if you turned off the sync
pulse on a port to run an AirFiber. But if multiple people
have had the same problem, then my theory is bunk.

On 11/24/2016 4:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

I had that same problem last week. Finally started working
on its own.
*From:* Kurt Fankhauser
        *Sent:* Thursday, November 24, 2016 3:14 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync
Ok, I just put a new PMP450i on a tower and am running into
the exact same problem the Original Poster had here. I have
the Gigabit Power Injector plus Sync and it is blinking for
receiving sync from another Sync Injector in the same
enclosure via the included jumper cable and the AP is
running in Autosync+ Freerun and it is not showing receiving
any sync at all and it is decided to Generate its own Sync.
Has been running for a couple hours now. Will keep checking
back here.
On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 1:51 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
 wrote:

all this talk of the new units i opened our box of them,
is there a guide for the 10/100 and gigabit
powerinjector jumper settings per brand?
is it just the same as
http://tickets.packetflux.com/downloads/poeinjectorjumpers.pdf
<http://tickets.packetflux.com/downloads/poeinjectorjumpers.pdf>
only with the pin order backward?
and if a guy put a 3pin connector on the A/B selector,
would that effectively put the two inputs in parallel?
On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Whoah.

You say 'switch polarity of the pins'.

That's wrong.   A 450i should be hooked up exactly the same as a 450, just
at 48VDC, not 24V.  If it isn't, it will power on, but won't receive sync.

-forrest

On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
wrote:

> Just logged into the AP tonight and still not receiving sync over power.
> Here are the details of my setup:
>
> AP firmware: 14.2.1
> cable lengh from Syncpipe to Sync Injector: 8 feet
> cable lengh from Powerinjector to AP: 15 feet
> Syncpipe Deluxe is Revision H or H1
> Powerinjector is daisy chained from a Syncinjector that is receiving
> timing pulse (Have a 3.65ghz 450AP that is receiving sync over power from
> this injector)
>
> I don't have any Site Monitor or Base Units to verify if the sync is
> turned on at the injector but I just received the injector last week brand
> new. I do have a Sync Box for Aux port I could throw on this AP and see if
> I can get sync working that way. If I really feel like it I could set the
> injector up for 24v power, switch polarity on pins and verify that a
> regular 450 AP can recive sync from this injector. But I am guessing this
> may be an issue related to 450i
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 6:39 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
>> BTW, the GigE PowerInjector+Sync that I have at the NOC running the four
>> 450i's is the newest I have with s/n 118966. It has a pretty old Rev G
>> Deluxe pipe on it, which is attached to the ice bridge about 6" off of the
>> wall, but has a decent view of the west and south and is tracking 10 out of
>> 12 sats. About 190 feet of cable to the radios. And they haven't lost sync
>> since they've been up, about three weeks. And I just jinxed it knowing my
>> luck.
>>
>> On 11/24/2016 5:27 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>>
>> If the orange LED is blinking, then the injector is receiving sync, and
>> 1PPS Active should = 1 (if you have a base unit connected to see it).
>>
>> Kurt, what software is your 450i running? FWIW, I have a limited number
>> of 450i APs up, but I have some on SyncBox Junior's (don't get the GPS
>> data) and the one PowerInjector+Sync at the NOC. All of my 450 and 450i is
>> running 14.1.2. Perhaps Cambium changed something in 14.2+.
>>
>> I would verify that the port has sync enabled. Obviously you'd need a
>> base unit connected. I've plugged radios in backwards on more than one
>> occasion. Injector upside down for one reason or another, so the radios
>> ended up 4 thru 1 instead of 1 thru 4 because I wasn't paying attention.
>> Port 4 is at the end closest to the SyncPipe/sync daisy chain ports. That's
>> the most obvious issue if you turned off the sync pulse on a port to run an
>> AirFiber. But if multiple people have had the same problem, then my theory
>> is bunk.
>>
>> On 11/24/2016 4:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>> I had that same problem last week. Finally started working on its own.
>>
>> *From:* Kurt Fankhauser
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 24, 2016 3:14 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync
>>
>> Ok, I just put a new PMP450i on a tower and am running into the exact
>> same problem the Original Poster had here. I have the Gigabit Power
>> Injector plus Sync and it is blinking for receiving sync from another Sync
>> Injector in the same enclosure via the included jumper cable and the AP is
>> running in Autosync+ Freerun and it is not showing receiving any sync at
>> all and it is decided to Generate its own Sync. Has been running for a
>> couple hours now. Will keep checking back here.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 1:51 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> all this talk of the new units i opened our box of them, is there a
>>> guide for the 10/100 and gigabit powerinjector jumper settings per brand?
>>> is it just the same as http://tickets.packetflux.com/
>>> downloads/poeinjectorjumpers.pdf only with the pin order backward?
>>> and if a guy put a 3pin connector on the A/B selector, would that
>>> effectively put the two inputs in parallel?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Depends on the power circuitry on the airfiber.  My guess is it would
>>>> be ok.
>>>>
>>>> If you have a base unit, you can actually turn off the sync on that
>>>> port and the injector will remember it, so you don't have

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[Kurt Fankhauser]

Just tried 14.1.2 and same thing, tomorrow I am going to feed this injector
from a different sync pipe instead of pulling sync over the daisy chain and
see if that helps. Also if that doesn't I have another NIB powerinjector I
can try here.

On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 10:33 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> H, I haven’t had any problems with power port sync from a CTM-2 and
> 450i.  300 ft cables though.  Some of them had 14.2 Build 15 on them and I
> downgraded to 14.1.2, power port sync worked both ways.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 24, 2016 9:09 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync
>
>
>
> I just tried the "debouncepowerport off" command and no change. I may
> try downgrading to firmware 14.1.2.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 10:06 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
> OK, I did get a report from one customer that my new surge protector
> design actually fixed this problem with a 450i.
>
> Not yet confident enough to state it will fix the problem.
>
>
>
> I was testing with my new surge suppressor when I got it to go.
>
>
>
> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 24, 2016 4:31 PM
>
> *To:* af
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync
>
>
>
> The 450i is extremely sensitive to any transition noise on the pulse.
> There's a hidden command in the cambium radios which you may want to try.
> I'm sending you a email off-list with it in caseyou want to try it.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
> wrote:
>
> Ok, I just put a new PMP450i on a tower and am running into the exact same
> problem the Original Poster had here. I have the Gigabit Power Injector
> plus Sync and it is blinking for receiving sync from another Sync Injector
> in the same enclosure via the included jumper cable and the AP is running
> in Autosync+ Freerun and it is not showing receiving any sync at all and it
> is decided to Generate its own Sync. Has been running for a couple hours
> now. Will keep checking back here.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 1:51 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> all this talk of the new units i opened our box of them, is there a guide
> for the 10/100 and gigabit powerinjector jumper settings per brand?
>
> is it just the same as http://tickets.packetflux.com/
> downloads/poeinjectorjumpers.pdf only with the pin order backward?
>
> and if a guy put a 3pin connector on the A/B selector, would that
> effectively put the two inputs in parallel?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
> Depends on the power circuitry on the airfiber.  My guess is it would be
> ok.
>
>
>
> If you have a base unit, you can actually turn off the sync on that port
> and the injector will remember it, so you don't have to put a base unit in
> the field with it, just for the programming.   (You'd set the poweron
> column for the sync row for that port to '0').
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Kurt Fankhauser 
> wrote:
>
> I just received my first powerinjector + sync today. If I want to power
> some Airfibers with these do I need to turn the sync off for those ports? I
> don't see a jumper to turn off sync, is it ok to provider sync on a port
> with an Airfiber? Does it hurt anything? It looks to me like the only way
> to turn off sync is buy the additional site monitor base thing to hookup to
> it and turn it off through the web interface?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:39 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
> I have four 5GHz 450i's running on our office tower fed from a GigE
> PowerInjector+Sync. They're running 14.1.2. They received sync shortly
> after boot, DFS, etc. BTW, no GigE-APC's in line on these yet. I'm like two
> short at the moment. But we know that 1000Base-T and sync over power + the
> older APC's don't play nice anyway.
>
> On 11/21/2016 1:23 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>
> I've had a couple of them where I wasn't getting sync and couldn't figure
> out why... in one case (maybe both... I don't remember off hand), I was
> getting sync to an ePMP, but not to a PMP450i 900mhz AP that were both
> plugged into the same sync injector... I didn't really need sync on the
> 900mhz at the time, so I just switched it to generate it's own timing, and
> I haven't gotten around to trying to figure it out yet, but now I'm
> wondering if it would eventually come up if I 

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[Ken Hohhof]

H, I haven’t had any problems with power port sync from a CTM-2 and 450i.  
300 ft cables though.  Some of them had 14.2 Build 15 on them and I downgraded 
to 14.1.2, power port sync worked both ways.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 9:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

 

I just tried the "debouncepowerport off" command and no change. I may try 
downgrading to firmware 14.1.2.

 

On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 10:06 PM, Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

OK, I did get a report from one customer that my new surge protector design 
actually fixed this problem with a 450i.

Not yet confident enough to state it will fix the problem.

 

I was testing with my new surge suppressor when I got it to go.  

 

From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 4:31 PM

To: af 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

 

The 450i is extremely sensitive to any transition noise on the pulse.  There's 
a hidden command in the cambium radios which you may want to try.   I'm sending 
you a email off-list with it in caseyou want to try it. 

 

 

On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Kurt Fankhauser mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Ok, I just put a new PMP450i on a tower and am running into the exact same 
problem the Original Poster had here. I have the Gigabit Power Injector plus 
Sync and it is blinking for receiving sync from another Sync Injector in the 
same enclosure via the included jumper cable and the AP is running in Autosync+ 
Freerun and it is not showing receiving any sync at all and it is decided to 
Generate its own Sync. Has been running for a couple hours now. Will keep 
checking back here.

 

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 1:51 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

all this talk of the new units i opened our box of them, is there a guide for 
the 10/100 and gigabit powerinjector jumper settings per brand? 

is it just the same as 
http://tickets.packetflux.com/downloads/poeinjectorjumpers.pdf only with the 
pin order backward?

and if a guy put a 3pin connector on the A/B selector, would that effectively 
put the two inputs in parallel?

 

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
mailto:li...@packetflux.com> > wrote:

Depends on the power circuitry on the airfiber.  My guess is it would be ok. 

 

If you have a base unit, you can actually turn off the sync on that port and 
the injector will remember it, so you don't have to put a base unit in the 
field with it, just for the programming.   (You'd set the poweron column for 
the sync row for that port to '0').

 

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Kurt Fankhauser mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I just received my first powerinjector + sync today. If I want to power some 
Airfibers with these do I need to turn the sync off for those ports? I don't 
see a jumper to turn off sync, is it ok to provider sync on a port with an 
Airfiber? Does it hurt anything? It looks to me like the only way to turn off 
sync is buy the additional site monitor base thing to hookup to it and turn it 
off through the web interface?

 

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:39 PM, George Skorup mailto:geo...@cbcast.com> > wrote:

I have four 5GHz 450i's running on our office tower fed from a GigE 
PowerInjector+Sync. They're running 14.1.2. They received sync shortly after 
boot, DFS, etc. BTW, no GigE-APC's in line on these yet. I'm like two short at 
the moment. But we know that 1000Base-T and sync over power + the older APC's 
don't play nice anyway.

On 11/21/2016 1:23 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:

I've had a couple of them where I wasn't getting sync and couldn't figure out 
why... in one case (maybe both... I don't remember off hand), I was getting 
sync to an ePMP, but not to a PMP450i 900mhz AP that were both plugged into the 
same sync injector... I didn't really need sync on the 900mhz at the time, so I 
just switched it to generate it's own timing, and I haven't gotten around to 
trying to figure it out yet, but now I'm wondering if it would eventually come 
up if I left it alone.

 

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Seth Mattinen mailto:se...@rollernet.us> > wrote:

On 11/21/16 10:39, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>  wrote:

I had all the packet flux gear running for days, plugged in the 450i and
started trying to figure out why it was not receiving sync.  Half hour
or more later it said it was OK, so the delay had to be Cambium, not
Packetflux.



Check if the packetflux says it has fix and 1PPS is active on the binary tab 
and that the used pulse count is increasing on the analog tab.

~Seth

 

 

 





 

-- 


Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.

Tel: 406-449-

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[Kurt Fankhauser]

I just tried the "debouncepowerport off" command and no change. I may
try downgrading to firmware 14.1.2.

On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 10:06 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> OK, I did get a report from one customer that my new surge protector
> design actually fixed this problem with a 450i.
> Not yet confident enough to state it will fix the problem.
>
> I was testing with my new surge suppressor when I got it to go.
>
> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 24, 2016 4:31 PM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync
>
> The 450i is extremely sensitive to any transition noise on the pulse.
> There's a hidden command in the cambium radios which you may want to try.
> I'm sending you a email off-list with it in caseyou want to try it.
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  > wrote:
>
>> Ok, I just put a new PMP450i on a tower and am running into the exact
>> same problem the Original Poster had here. I have the Gigabit Power
>> Injector plus Sync and it is blinking for receiving sync from another Sync
>> Injector in the same enclosure via the included jumper cable and the AP is
>> running in Autosync+ Freerun and it is not showing receiving any sync at
>> all and it is decided to Generate its own Sync. Has been running for a
>> couple hours now. Will keep checking back here.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 1:51 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> all this talk of the new units i opened our box of them, is there a
>>> guide for the 10/100 and gigabit powerinjector jumper settings per brand?
>>> is it just the same as http://tickets.packetflux.com/
>>> downloads/poeinjectorjumpers.pdf only with the pin order backward?
>>> and if a guy put a 3pin connector on the A/B selector, would that
>>> effectively put the two inputs in parallel?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Depends on the power circuitry on the airfiber.  My guess is it would
>>>> be ok.
>>>>
>>>> If you have a base unit, you can actually turn off the sync on that
>>>> port and the injector will remember it, so you don't have to put a base
>>>> unit in the field with it, just for the programming.   (You'd set the
>>>> poweron column for the sync row for that port to '0').
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just received my first powerinjector + sync today. If I want to
>>>>> power some Airfibers with these do I need to turn the sync off for those
>>>>> ports? I don't see a jumper to turn off sync, is it ok to provider sync on
>>>>> a port with an Airfiber? Does it hurt anything? It looks to me like the
>>>>> only way to turn off sync is buy the additional site monitor base thing to
>>>>> hookup to it and turn it off through the web interface?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:39 PM, George Skorup 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have four 5GHz 450i's running on our office tower fed from a GigE
>>>>>> PowerInjector+Sync. They're running 14.1.2. They received sync shortly
>>>>>> after boot, DFS, etc. BTW, no GigE-APC's in line on these yet. I'm like 
>>>>>> two
>>>>>> short at the moment. But we know that 1000Base-T and sync over power + 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> older APC's don't play nice anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/21/2016 1:23 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've had a couple of them where I wasn't getting sync and couldn't
>>>>>> figure out why... in one case (maybe both... I don't remember off hand), 
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> was getting sync to an ePMP, but not to a PMP450i 900mhz AP that were 
>>>>>> both
>>>>>> plugged into the same sync injector... I didn't really need sync on the
>>>>>> 900mhz at the time, so I just switched it to generate it's own timing, 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> I haven't gotten around to trying to figure it out yet, but now I'm
>>>>>> wondering if it would eventually come up if I left it alone.
>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[Chuck McCown]

OK, I did get a report from one customer that my new surge protector design 
actually fixed this problem with a 450i.
Not yet confident enough to state it will fix the problem.

I was testing with my new surge suppressor when I got it to go.  

From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 4:31 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

The 450i is extremely sensitive to any transition noise on the pulse.  There's 
a hidden command in the cambium radios which you may want to try.   I'm sending 
you a email off-list with it in caseyou want to try it. 


On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  
wrote:

  Ok, I just put a new PMP450i on a tower and am running into the exact same 
problem the Original Poster had here. I have the Gigabit Power Injector plus 
Sync and it is blinking for receiving sync from another Sync Injector in the 
same enclosure via the included jumper cable and the AP is running in Autosync+ 
Freerun and it is not showing receiving any sync at all and it is decided to 
Generate its own Sync. Has been running for a couple hours now. Will keep 
checking back here.

  On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 1:51 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

all this talk of the new units i opened our box of them, is there a guide 
for the 10/100 and gigabit powerinjector jumper settings per brand? 
is it just the same as 
http://tickets.packetflux.com/downloads/poeinjectorjumpers.pdf only with the 
pin order backward?
and if a guy put a 3pin connector on the A/B selector, would that 
effectively put the two inputs in parallel?

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
 wrote:

  Depends on the power circuitry on the airfiber.  My guess is it would be 
ok. 

  If you have a base unit, you can actually turn off the sync on that port 
and the injector will remember it, so you don't have to put a base unit in the 
field with it, just for the programming.   (You'd set the poweron column for 
the sync row for that port to '0').

  On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Kurt Fankhauser 
 wrote:

I just received my first powerinjector + sync today. If I want to power 
some Airfibers with these do I need to turn the sync off for those ports? I 
don't see a jumper to turn off sync, is it ok to provider sync on a port with 
an Airfiber? Does it hurt anything? It looks to me like the only way to turn 
off sync is buy the additional site monitor base thing to hookup to it and turn 
it off through the web interface?

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:39 PM, George Skorup  
wrote:

  I have four 5GHz 450i's running on our office tower fed from a GigE 
PowerInjector+Sync. They're running 14.1.2. They received sync shortly after 
boot, DFS, etc. BTW, no GigE-APC's in line on these yet. I'm like two short at 
the moment. But we know that 1000Base-T and sync over power + the older APC's 
don't play nice anyway.


  On 11/21/2016 1:23 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:

I've had a couple of them where I wasn't getting sync and couldn't 
figure out why... in one case (maybe both... I don't remember off hand), I was 
getting sync to an ePMP, but not to a PMP450i 900mhz AP that were both plugged 
into the same sync injector... I didn't really need sync on the 900mhz at the 
time, so I just switched it to generate it's own timing, and I haven't gotten 
around to trying to figure it out yet, but now I'm wondering if it would 
eventually come up if I left it alone.


On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Seth Mattinen 
 wrote:

  On 11/21/16 10:39, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I had all the packet flux gear running for days, plugged in the 
450i and
started trying to figure out why it was not receiving sync.  
Half hour
or more later it said it was OK, so the delay had to be 
Cambium, not
Packetflux.



  Check if the packetflux says it has fix and 1PPS is active on the 
binary tab and that the used pulse count is increasing on the analog tab.

  ~Seth









  -- 

Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.

Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com

   







-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.





-- 

  Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.

  Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
  forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com

 

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[Kurt Fankhauser]

Just logged into the AP tonight and still not receiving sync over power.
Here are the details of my setup:

AP firmware: 14.2.1
cable lengh from Syncpipe to Sync Injector: 8 feet
cable lengh from Powerinjector to AP: 15 feet
Syncpipe Deluxe is Revision H or H1
Powerinjector is daisy chained from a Syncinjector that is receiving timing
pulse (Have a 3.65ghz 450AP that is receiving sync over power from this
injector)

I don't have any Site Monitor or Base Units to verify if the sync is turned
on at the injector but I just received the injector last week brand new. I
do have a Sync Box for Aux port I could throw on this AP and see if I can
get sync working that way. If I really feel like it I could set the
injector up for 24v power, switch polarity on pins and verify that a
regular 450 AP can recive sync from this injector. But I am guessing this
may be an issue related to 450i



On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 6:39 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

> BTW, the GigE PowerInjector+Sync that I have at the NOC running the four
> 450i's is the newest I have with s/n 118966. It has a pretty old Rev G
> Deluxe pipe on it, which is attached to the ice bridge about 6" off of the
> wall, but has a decent view of the west and south and is tracking 10 out of
> 12 sats. About 190 feet of cable to the radios. And they haven't lost sync
> since they've been up, about three weeks. And I just jinxed it knowing my
> luck.
>
> On 11/24/2016 5:27 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>
> If the orange LED is blinking, then the injector is receiving sync, and
> 1PPS Active should = 1 (if you have a base unit connected to see it).
>
> Kurt, what software is your 450i running? FWIW, I have a limited number of
> 450i APs up, but I have some on SyncBox Junior's (don't get the GPS data)
> and the one PowerInjector+Sync at the NOC. All of my 450 and 450i is
> running 14.1.2. Perhaps Cambium changed something in 14.2+.
>
> I would verify that the port has sync enabled. Obviously you'd need a base
> unit connected. I've plugged radios in backwards on more than one occasion.
> Injector upside down for one reason or another, so the radios ended up 4
> thru 1 instead of 1 thru 4 because I wasn't paying attention. Port 4 is at
> the end closest to the SyncPipe/sync daisy chain ports. That's the most
> obvious issue if you turned off the sync pulse on a port to run an
> AirFiber. But if multiple people have had the same problem, then my theory
> is bunk.
>
> On 11/24/2016 4:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> I had that same problem last week. Finally started working on its own.
>
> *From:* Kurt Fankhauser
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 24, 2016 3:14 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync
>
> Ok, I just put a new PMP450i on a tower and am running into the exact same
> problem the Original Poster had here. I have the Gigabit Power Injector
> plus Sync and it is blinking for receiving sync from another Sync Injector
> in the same enclosure via the included jumper cable and the AP is running
> in Autosync+ Freerun and it is not showing receiving any sync at all and it
> is decided to Generate its own Sync. Has been running for a couple hours
> now. Will keep checking back here.
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 1:51 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> all this talk of the new units i opened our box of them, is there a guide
>> for the 10/100 and gigabit powerinjector jumper settings per brand?
>> is it just the same as http://tickets.packetflux.com/
>> downloads/poeinjectorjumpers.pdf only with the pin order backward?
>> and if a guy put a 3pin connector on the A/B selector, would that
>> effectively put the two inputs in parallel?
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Depends on the power circuitry on the airfiber.  My guess is it would be
>>> ok.
>>>
>>> If you have a base unit, you can actually turn off the sync on that port
>>> and the injector will remember it, so you don't have to put a base unit in
>>> the field with it, just for the programming.   (You'd set the poweron
>>> column for the sync row for that port to '0').
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just received my first powerinjector + sync today. If I want to power
>>>> some Airfibers with these do I need to turn the sync off for those ports? I
>>>> don't see a jumper to turn off sync, is it ok to provider sync on a port
>>>> with an Airfiber? Does it hurt anyt

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[George Skorup]

BTW, the GigE PowerInjector+Sync that I have at the NOC running the four 
450i's is the newest I have with s/n 118966. It has a pretty old Rev G 
Deluxe pipe on it, which is attached to the ice bridge about 6" off of 
the wall, but has a decent view of the west and south and is tracking 10 
out of 12 sats. About 190 feet of cable to the radios. And they haven't 
lost sync since they've been up, about three weeks. And I just jinxed it 
knowing my luck.


On 11/24/2016 5:27 PM, George Skorup wrote:
If the orange LED is blinking, then the injector is receiving sync, 
and 1PPS Active should = 1 (if you have a base unit connected to see it).


Kurt, what software is your 450i running? FWIW, I have a limited 
number of 450i APs up, but I have some on SyncBox Junior's (don't get 
the GPS data) and the one PowerInjector+Sync at the NOC. All of my 450 
and 450i is running 14.1.2. Perhaps Cambium changed something in 14.2+.


I would verify that the port has sync enabled. Obviously you'd need a 
base unit connected. I've plugged radios in backwards on more than one 
occasion. Injector upside down for one reason or another, so the 
radios ended up 4 thru 1 instead of 1 thru 4 because I wasn't paying 
attention. Port 4 is at the end closest to the SyncPipe/sync daisy 
chain ports. That's the most obvious issue if you turned off the sync 
pulse on a port to run an AirFiber. But if multiple people have had 
the same problem, then my theory is bunk.


On 11/24/2016 4:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

I had that same problem last week. Finally started working on its own.
*From:* Kurt Fankhauser
*Sent:* Thursday, November 24, 2016 3:14 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync
Ok, I just put a new PMP450i on a tower and am running into the exact 
same problem the Original Poster had here. I have the Gigabit Power 
Injector plus Sync and it is blinking for receiving sync from another 
Sync Injector in the same enclosure via the included jumper cable and 
the AP is running in Autosync+ Freerun and it is not showing 
receiving any sync at all and it is decided to Generate its own Sync. 
Has been running for a couple hours now. Will keep checking back here.
On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 1:51 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:


all this talk of the new units i opened our box of them, is there
a guide for the 10/100 and gigabit powerinjector jumper settings
per brand?
is it just the same as
http://tickets.packetflux.com/downloads/poeinjectorjumpers.pdf
<http://tickets.packetflux.com/downloads/poeinjectorjumpers.pdf>
only with the pin order backward?
and if a guy put a 3pin connector on the A/B selector, would that
effectively put the two inputs in parallel?
On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Forrest Christian (List
Account)  wrote:

Depends on the power circuitry on the airfiber.  My guess is
it would be ok.
If you have a base unit, you can actually turn off the sync
on that port and the injector will remember it, so you don't
have to put a base unit in the field with it, just for the
programming.   (You'd set the poweron column for the sync row
for that port to '0').
On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Kurt Fankhauser
 wrote:

I just received my first powerinjector + sync today. If I
want to power some Airfibers with these do I need to turn
the sync off for those ports? I don't see a jumper to
turn off sync, is it ok to provider sync on a port with
an Airfiber? Does it hurt anything? It looks to me like
the only way to turn off sync is buy the additional site
monitor base thing to hookup to it and turn it off
through the web interface?
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:39 PM, George Skorup
 wrote:

I have four 5GHz 450i's running on our office tower
fed from a GigE PowerInjector+Sync. They're running
14.1.2. They received sync shortly after boot, DFS,
etc. BTW, no GigE-APC's in line on these yet. I'm
like two short at the moment. But we know that
1000Base-T and sync over power + the older APC's
don't play nice anyway.

On 11/21/2016 1:23 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:

I've had a couple of them where I wasn't getting
sync and couldn't figure out why... in one case
(maybe both... I don't remember off hand), I was
getting sync to an ePMP, but not to a PMP450i 900mhz
AP that were both plugged into the same sync
injector... I didn't really need sync on the 900mhz
at the time, so I just switched it to generate it

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

The 450i is extremely sensitive to any transition noise on the pulse.
There's a hidden command in the cambium radios which you may want to try.
I'm sending you a email off-list with it in caseyou want to try it.


On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
wrote:

> Ok, I just put a new PMP450i on a tower and am running into the exact same
> problem the Original Poster had here. I have the Gigabit Power Injector
> plus Sync and it is blinking for receiving sync from another Sync Injector
> in the same enclosure via the included jumper cable and the AP is running
> in Autosync+ Freerun and it is not showing receiving any sync at all and it
> is decided to Generate its own Sync. Has been running for a couple hours
> now. Will keep checking back here.
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 1:51 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> all this talk of the new units i opened our box of them, is there a guide
>> for the 10/100 and gigabit powerinjector jumper settings per brand?
>> is it just the same as http://tickets.packetflux.c
>> om/downloads/poeinjectorjumpers.pdf only with the pin order backward?
>> and if a guy put a 3pin connector on the A/B selector, would that
>> effectively put the two inputs in parallel?
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Depends on the power circuitry on the airfiber.  My guess is it would be
>>> ok.
>>>
>>> If you have a base unit, you can actually turn off the sync on that port
>>> and the injector will remember it, so you don't have to put a base unit in
>>> the field with it, just for the programming.   (You'd set the poweron
>>> column for the sync row for that port to '0').
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I just received my first powerinjector + sync today. If I want to power
 some Airfibers with these do I need to turn the sync off for those ports? I
 don't see a jumper to turn off sync, is it ok to provider sync on a port
 with an Airfiber? Does it hurt anything? It looks to me like the only way
 to turn off sync is buy the additional site monitor base thing to hookup to
 it and turn it off through the web interface?

 On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:39 PM, George Skorup 
 wrote:

> I have four 5GHz 450i's running on our office tower fed from a GigE
> PowerInjector+Sync. They're running 14.1.2. They received sync shortly
> after boot, DFS, etc. BTW, no GigE-APC's in line on these yet. I'm like 
> two
> short at the moment. But we know that 1000Base-T and sync over power + the
> older APC's don't play nice anyway.
>
> On 11/21/2016 1:23 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>
> I've had a couple of them where I wasn't getting sync and couldn't
> figure out why... in one case (maybe both... I don't remember off hand), I
> was getting sync to an ePMP, but not to a PMP450i 900mhz AP that were both
> plugged into the same sync injector... I didn't really need sync on the
> 900mhz at the time, so I just switched it to generate it's own timing, and
> I haven't gotten around to trying to figure it out yet, but now I'm
> wondering if it would eventually come up if I left it alone.
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Seth Mattinen 
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/21/16 10:39, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>
>>> I had all the packet flux gear running for days, plugged in the 450i
>>> and
>>> started trying to figure out why it was not receiving sync.  Half
>>> hour
>>> or more later it said it was OK, so the delay had to be Cambium, not
>>> Packetflux.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Check if the packetflux says it has fix and 1PPS is active on the
>> binary tab and that the used pulse count is increasing on the analog tab.
>>
>> ~Seth
>>
>
>
>

>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
>>> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
>>> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>>> 
>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>


-- 
*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
  

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[George Skorup]

If the orange LED is blinking, then the injector is receiving sync, and 
1PPS Active should = 1 (if you have a base unit connected to see it).


Kurt, what software is your 450i running? FWIW, I have a limited number 
of 450i APs up, but I have some on SyncBox Junior's (don't get the GPS 
data) and the one PowerInjector+Sync at the NOC. All of my 450 and 450i 
is running 14.1.2. Perhaps Cambium changed something in 14.2+.


I would verify that the port has sync enabled. Obviously you'd need a 
base unit connected. I've plugged radios in backwards on more than one 
occasion. Injector upside down for one reason or another, so the radios 
ended up 4 thru 1 instead of 1 thru 4 because I wasn't paying attention. 
Port 4 is at the end closest to the SyncPipe/sync daisy chain ports. 
That's the most obvious issue if you turned off the sync pulse on a port 
to run an AirFiber. But if multiple people have had the same problem, 
then my theory is bunk.


On 11/24/2016 4:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

I had that same problem last week. Finally started working on its own.
*From:* Kurt Fankhauser
*Sent:* Thursday, November 24, 2016 3:14 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync
Ok, I just put a new PMP450i on a tower and am running into the exact 
same problem the Original Poster had here. I have the Gigabit Power 
Injector plus Sync and it is blinking for receiving sync from another 
Sync Injector in the same enclosure via the included jumper cable and 
the AP is running in Autosync+ Freerun and it is not showing receiving 
any sync at all and it is decided to Generate its own Sync. Has been 
running for a couple hours now. Will keep checking back here.
On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 1:51 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:


all this talk of the new units i opened our box of them, is there
a guide for the 10/100 and gigabit powerinjector jumper settings
per brand?
is it just the same as
http://tickets.packetflux.com/downloads/poeinjectorjumpers.pdf
<http://tickets.packetflux.com/downloads/poeinjectorjumpers.pdf>
only with the pin order backward?
and if a guy put a 3pin connector on the A/B selector, would that
effectively put the two inputs in parallel?
On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account)
 wrote:

Depends on the power circuitry on the airfiber.  My guess is
it would be ok.
If you have a base unit, you can actually turn off the sync on
that port and the injector will remember it, so you don't have
to put a base unit in the field with it, just for the
programming.   (You'd set the poweron column for the sync row
for that port to '0').
On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Kurt Fankhauser
 wrote:

I just received my first powerinjector + sync today. If I
want to power some Airfibers with these do I need to turn
the sync off for those ports? I don't see a jumper to turn
off sync, is it ok to provider sync on a port with an
Airfiber? Does it hurt anything? It looks to me like the
only way to turn off sync is buy the additional site
monitor base thing to hookup to it and turn it off through
the web interface?
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:39 PM, George Skorup
 wrote:

I have four 5GHz 450i's running on our office tower
fed from a GigE PowerInjector+Sync. They're running
14.1.2. They received sync shortly after boot, DFS,
etc. BTW, no GigE-APC's in line on these yet. I'm like
two short at the moment. But we know that 1000Base-T
and sync over power + the older APC's don't play nice
anyway.

On 11/21/2016 1:23 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:

I've had a couple of them where I wasn't getting sync
and couldn't figure out why... in one case (maybe
both... I don't remember off hand), I was getting
sync to an ePMP, but not to a PMP450i 900mhz AP that
were both plugged into the same sync injector... I
didn't really need sync on the 900mhz at the time, so
I just switched it to generate it's own timing, and I
haven't gotten around to trying to figure it out yet,
but now I'm wondering if it would eventually come up
if I left it alone.
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Seth Mattinen
 wrote:

On 11/21/16 10:39, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I had all the packet flux gear running for
days, plugged in the 450i and
started trying to figure ou

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[Chuck McCown]

I had that same problem last week. Finally started working on its own.  

From: Kurt Fankhauser 
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 3:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

Ok, I just put a new PMP450i on a tower and am running into the exact same 
problem the Original Poster had here. I have the Gigabit Power Injector plus 
Sync and it is blinking for receiving sync from another Sync Injector in the 
same enclosure via the included jumper cable and the AP is running in Autosync+ 
Freerun and it is not showing receiving any sync at all and it is decided to 
Generate its own Sync. Has been running for a couple hours now. Will keep 
checking back here.

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 1:51 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

  all this talk of the new units i opened our box of them, is there a guide for 
the 10/100 and gigabit powerinjector jumper settings per brand? 
  is it just the same as 
http://tickets.packetflux.com/downloads/poeinjectorjumpers.pdf only with the 
pin order backward?
  and if a guy put a 3pin connector on the A/B selector, would that effectively 
put the two inputs in parallel?

  On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
 wrote:

Depends on the power circuitry on the airfiber.  My guess is it would be 
ok. 

If you have a base unit, you can actually turn off the sync on that port 
and the injector will remember it, so you don't have to put a base unit in the 
field with it, just for the programming.   (You'd set the poweron column for 
the sync row for that port to '0').

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Kurt Fankhauser  
wrote:

  I just received my first powerinjector + sync today. If I want to power 
some Airfibers with these do I need to turn the sync off for those ports? I 
don't see a jumper to turn off sync, is it ok to provider sync on a port with 
an Airfiber? Does it hurt anything? It looks to me like the only way to turn 
off sync is buy the additional site monitor base thing to hookup to it and turn 
it off through the web interface?

  On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:39 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

I have four 5GHz 450i's running on our office tower fed from a GigE 
PowerInjector+Sync. They're running 14.1.2. They received sync shortly after 
boot, DFS, etc. BTW, no GigE-APC's in line on these yet. I'm like two short at 
the moment. But we know that 1000Base-T and sync over power + the older APC's 
don't play nice anyway.


On 11/21/2016 1:23 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:

  I've had a couple of them where I wasn't getting sync and couldn't 
figure out why... in one case (maybe both... I don't remember off hand), I was 
getting sync to an ePMP, but not to a PMP450i 900mhz AP that were both plugged 
into the same sync injector... I didn't really need sync on the 900mhz at the 
time, so I just switched it to generate it's own timing, and I haven't gotten 
around to trying to figure it out yet, but now I'm wondering if it would 
eventually come up if I left it alone.


  On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Seth Mattinen  
wrote:

On 11/21/16 10:39, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  I had all the packet flux gear running for days, plugged in the 
450i and
  started trying to figure out why it was not receiving sync.  Half 
hour
  or more later it said it was OK, so the delay had to be Cambium, 
not
  Packetflux.



Check if the packetflux says it has fix and 1PPS is active on the 
binary tab and that the used pulse count is increasing on the analog tab.

~Seth









-- 

  Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.

  Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
  forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com

 







  -- 

  If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[Kurt Fankhauser]

Ok, I just put a new PMP450i on a tower and am running into the exact same
problem the Original Poster had here. I have the Gigabit Power Injector
plus Sync and it is blinking for receiving sync from another Sync Injector
in the same enclosure via the included jumper cable and the AP is running
in Autosync+ Freerun and it is not showing receiving any sync at all and it
is decided to Generate its own Sync. Has been running for a couple hours
now. Will keep checking back here.

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 1:51 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> all this talk of the new units i opened our box of them, is there a guide
> for the 10/100 and gigabit powerinjector jumper settings per brand?
> is it just the same as http://tickets.packetflux.com/downloads/
> poeinjectorjumpers.pdf only with the pin order backward?
> and if a guy put a 3pin connector on the A/B selector, would that
> effectively put the two inputs in parallel?
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> Depends on the power circuitry on the airfiber.  My guess is it would be
>> ok.
>>
>> If you have a base unit, you can actually turn off the sync on that port
>> and the injector will remember it, so you don't have to put a base unit in
>> the field with it, just for the programming.   (You'd set the poweron
>> column for the sync row for that port to '0').
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I just received my first powerinjector + sync today. If I want to power
>>> some Airfibers with these do I need to turn the sync off for those ports? I
>>> don't see a jumper to turn off sync, is it ok to provider sync on a port
>>> with an Airfiber? Does it hurt anything? It looks to me like the only way
>>> to turn off sync is buy the additional site monitor base thing to hookup to
>>> it and turn it off through the web interface?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:39 PM, George Skorup 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I have four 5GHz 450i's running on our office tower fed from a GigE
 PowerInjector+Sync. They're running 14.1.2. They received sync shortly
 after boot, DFS, etc. BTW, no GigE-APC's in line on these yet. I'm like two
 short at the moment. But we know that 1000Base-T and sync over power + the
 older APC's don't play nice anyway.

 On 11/21/2016 1:23 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:

 I've had a couple of them where I wasn't getting sync and couldn't
 figure out why... in one case (maybe both... I don't remember off hand), I
 was getting sync to an ePMP, but not to a PMP450i 900mhz AP that were both
 plugged into the same sync injector... I didn't really need sync on the
 900mhz at the time, so I just switched it to generate it's own timing, and
 I haven't gotten around to trying to figure it out yet, but now I'm
 wondering if it would eventually come up if I left it alone.

 On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Seth Mattinen 
 wrote:

> On 11/21/16 10:39, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
>> I had all the packet flux gear running for days, plugged in the 450i
>> and
>> started trying to figure out why it was not receiving sync.  Half hour
>> or more later it said it was OK, so the delay had to be Cambium, not
>> Packetflux.
>>
>
>
> Check if the packetflux says it has fix and 1PPS is active on the
> binary tab and that the used pulse count is increasing on the analog tab.
>
> ~Seth
>



>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
>> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
>> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>> 
>>   
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

all this talk of the new units i opened our box of them, is there a guide
for the 10/100 and gigabit powerinjector jumper settings per brand?
is it just the same as
http://tickets.packetflux.com/downloads/poeinjectorjumpers.pdf only with
the pin order backward?
and if a guy put a 3pin connector on the A/B selector, would that
effectively put the two inputs in parallel?

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> Depends on the power circuitry on the airfiber.  My guess is it would be
> ok.
>
> If you have a base unit, you can actually turn off the sync on that port
> and the injector will remember it, so you don't have to put a base unit in
> the field with it, just for the programming.   (You'd set the poweron
> column for the sync row for that port to '0').
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Kurt Fankhauser  > wrote:
>
>> I just received my first powerinjector + sync today. If I want to power
>> some Airfibers with these do I need to turn the sync off for those ports? I
>> don't see a jumper to turn off sync, is it ok to provider sync on a port
>> with an Airfiber? Does it hurt anything? It looks to me like the only way
>> to turn off sync is buy the additional site monitor base thing to hookup to
>> it and turn it off through the web interface?
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:39 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>>
>>> I have four 5GHz 450i's running on our office tower fed from a GigE
>>> PowerInjector+Sync. They're running 14.1.2. They received sync shortly
>>> after boot, DFS, etc. BTW, no GigE-APC's in line on these yet. I'm like two
>>> short at the moment. But we know that 1000Base-T and sync over power + the
>>> older APC's don't play nice anyway.
>>>
>>> On 11/21/2016 1:23 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>>
>>> I've had a couple of them where I wasn't getting sync and couldn't
>>> figure out why... in one case (maybe both... I don't remember off hand), I
>>> was getting sync to an ePMP, but not to a PMP450i 900mhz AP that were both
>>> plugged into the same sync injector... I didn't really need sync on the
>>> 900mhz at the time, so I just switched it to generate it's own timing, and
>>> I haven't gotten around to trying to figure it out yet, but now I'm
>>> wondering if it would eventually come up if I left it alone.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Seth Mattinen 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 On 11/21/16 10:39, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

> I had all the packet flux gear running for days, plugged in the 450i
> and
> started trying to figure out why it was not receiving sync.  Half hour
> or more later it said it was OK, so the delay had to be Cambium, not
> Packetflux.
>


 Check if the packetflux says it has fix and 1PPS is active on the
 binary tab and that the used pulse count is increasing on the analog tab.

 ~Seth

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>   
>   
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Depends on the power circuitry on the airfiber.  My guess is it would be ok.

If you have a base unit, you can actually turn off the sync on that port
and the injector will remember it, so you don't have to put a base unit in
the field with it, just for the programming.   (You'd set the poweron
column for the sync row for that port to '0').

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Kurt Fankhauser 
wrote:

> I just received my first powerinjector + sync today. If I want to power
> some Airfibers with these do I need to turn the sync off for those ports? I
> don't see a jumper to turn off sync, is it ok to provider sync on a port
> with an Airfiber? Does it hurt anything? It looks to me like the only way
> to turn off sync is buy the additional site monitor base thing to hookup to
> it and turn it off through the web interface?
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:39 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
>> I have four 5GHz 450i's running on our office tower fed from a GigE
>> PowerInjector+Sync. They're running 14.1.2. They received sync shortly
>> after boot, DFS, etc. BTW, no GigE-APC's in line on these yet. I'm like two
>> short at the moment. But we know that 1000Base-T and sync over power + the
>> older APC's don't play nice anyway.
>>
>> On 11/21/2016 1:23 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>
>> I've had a couple of them where I wasn't getting sync and couldn't figure
>> out why... in one case (maybe both... I don't remember off hand), I was
>> getting sync to an ePMP, but not to a PMP450i 900mhz AP that were both
>> plugged into the same sync injector... I didn't really need sync on the
>> 900mhz at the time, so I just switched it to generate it's own timing, and
>> I haven't gotten around to trying to figure it out yet, but now I'm
>> wondering if it would eventually come up if I left it alone.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Seth Mattinen 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/21/16 10:39, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>>
 I had all the packet flux gear running for days, plugged in the 450i and
 started trying to figure out why it was not receiving sync.  Half hour
 or more later it said it was OK, so the delay had to be Cambium, not
 Packetflux.

>>>
>>>
>>> Check if the packetflux says it has fix and 1PPS is active on the binary
>>> tab and that the used pulse count is increasing on the analog tab.
>>>
>>> ~Seth
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
  

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[Mathew Howard]

I'm pretty sure we have several airfibers running on them with sync on - I
usually try to turn it off, but I haven't noticed any problems, and it
certainly won't be smoking or anything like that.

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:19 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> would be neat to do it and look at the pair report on the af, just to see
> what it looks like, assuming the port isnt smoking
>
> having the site monitor at every site is really a decent deal, for 99
> bucks you get a temperature probe, a couple power monitors and a couple
> relays that are all IP controlled, theyre worth putting in even without
> syncinjectors imho
> with them you get a crap ton more versatility out of the injectors too
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Kurt Fankhauser  > wrote:
>
>> Been using the injectors for 7 years without needing one yet. I'm not
>> opposed to them though, Just looking for a quick solution fast here to
>> power some Airfibers
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Josh Baird  wrote:
>>
>>> You should really use SiteMonitors if you use SyncInjectors.  It allows
>>> you to manage and monitor the SyncInjector.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I just received my first powerinjector + sync today. If I want to power
 some Airfibers with these do I need to turn the sync off for those ports? I
 don't see a jumper to turn off sync, is it ok to provider sync on a port
 with an Airfiber? Does it hurt anything? It looks to me like the only way
 to turn off sync is buy the additional site monitor base thing to hookup to
 it and turn it off through the web interface?

 On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:39 PM, George Skorup 
 wrote:

> I have four 5GHz 450i's running on our office tower fed from a GigE
> PowerInjector+Sync. They're running 14.1.2. They received sync shortly
> after boot, DFS, etc. BTW, no GigE-APC's in line on these yet. I'm like 
> two
> short at the moment. But we know that 1000Base-T and sync over power + the
> older APC's don't play nice anyway.
>
> On 11/21/2016 1:23 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>
> I've had a couple of them where I wasn't getting sync and couldn't
> figure out why... in one case (maybe both... I don't remember off hand), I
> was getting sync to an ePMP, but not to a PMP450i 900mhz AP that were both
> plugged into the same sync injector... I didn't really need sync on the
> 900mhz at the time, so I just switched it to generate it's own timing, and
> I haven't gotten around to trying to figure it out yet, but now I'm
> wondering if it would eventually come up if I left it alone.
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Seth Mattinen 
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/21/16 10:39, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>
>>> I had all the packet flux gear running for days, plugged in the 450i
>>> and
>>> started trying to figure out why it was not receiving sync.  Half
>>> hour
>>> or more later it said it was OK, so the delay had to be Cambium, not
>>> Packetflux.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Check if the packetflux says it has fix and 1PPS is active on the
>> binary tab and that the used pulse count is increasing on the analog tab.
>>
>> ~Seth
>>
>
>
>

>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

would be neat to do it and look at the pair report on the af, just to see
what it looks like, assuming the port isnt smoking

having the site monitor at every site is really a decent deal, for 99 bucks
you get a temperature probe, a couple power monitors and a couple relays
that are all IP controlled, theyre worth putting in even without
syncinjectors imho
with them you get a crap ton more versatility out of the injectors too

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Kurt Fankhauser 
wrote:

> Been using the injectors for 7 years without needing one yet. I'm not
> opposed to them though, Just looking for a quick solution fast here to
> power some Airfibers
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Josh Baird  wrote:
>
>> You should really use SiteMonitors if you use SyncInjectors.  It allows
>> you to manage and monitor the SyncInjector.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I just received my first powerinjector + sync today. If I want to power
>>> some Airfibers with these do I need to turn the sync off for those ports? I
>>> don't see a jumper to turn off sync, is it ok to provider sync on a port
>>> with an Airfiber? Does it hurt anything? It looks to me like the only way
>>> to turn off sync is buy the additional site monitor base thing to hookup to
>>> it and turn it off through the web interface?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:39 PM, George Skorup 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I have four 5GHz 450i's running on our office tower fed from a GigE
 PowerInjector+Sync. They're running 14.1.2. They received sync shortly
 after boot, DFS, etc. BTW, no GigE-APC's in line on these yet. I'm like two
 short at the moment. But we know that 1000Base-T and sync over power + the
 older APC's don't play nice anyway.

 On 11/21/2016 1:23 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:

 I've had a couple of them where I wasn't getting sync and couldn't
 figure out why... in one case (maybe both... I don't remember off hand), I
 was getting sync to an ePMP, but not to a PMP450i 900mhz AP that were both
 plugged into the same sync injector... I didn't really need sync on the
 900mhz at the time, so I just switched it to generate it's own timing, and
 I haven't gotten around to trying to figure it out yet, but now I'm
 wondering if it would eventually come up if I left it alone.

 On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Seth Mattinen 
 wrote:

> On 11/21/16 10:39, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
>> I had all the packet flux gear running for days, plugged in the 450i
>> and
>> started trying to figure out why it was not receiving sync.  Half hour
>> or more later it said it was OK, so the delay had to be Cambium, not
>> Packetflux.
>>
>
>
> Check if the packetflux says it has fix and 1PPS is active on the
> binary tab and that the used pulse count is increasing on the analog tab.
>
> ~Seth
>



>>>
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[Kurt Fankhauser]

I just received my first powerinjector + sync today. If I want to power
some Airfibers with these do I need to turn the sync off for those ports? I
don't see a jumper to turn off sync, is it ok to provider sync on a port
with an Airfiber? Does it hurt anything? It looks to me like the only way
to turn off sync is buy the additional site monitor base thing to hookup to
it and turn it off through the web interface?

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:39 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

> I have four 5GHz 450i's running on our office tower fed from a GigE
> PowerInjector+Sync. They're running 14.1.2. They received sync shortly
> after boot, DFS, etc. BTW, no GigE-APC's in line on these yet. I'm like two
> short at the moment. But we know that 1000Base-T and sync over power + the
> older APC's don't play nice anyway.
>
> On 11/21/2016 1:23 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>
> I've had a couple of them where I wasn't getting sync and couldn't figure
> out why... in one case (maybe both... I don't remember off hand), I was
> getting sync to an ePMP, but not to a PMP450i 900mhz AP that were both
> plugged into the same sync injector... I didn't really need sync on the
> 900mhz at the time, so I just switched it to generate it's own timing, and
> I haven't gotten around to trying to figure it out yet, but now I'm
> wondering if it would eventually come up if I left it alone.
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Seth Mattinen 
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/21/16 10:39, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>
>>> I had all the packet flux gear running for days, plugged in the 450i and
>>> started trying to figure out why it was not receiving sync.  Half hour
>>> or more later it said it was OK, so the delay had to be Cambium, not
>>> Packetflux.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Check if the packetflux says it has fix and 1PPS is active on the binary
>> tab and that the used pulse count is increasing on the analog tab.
>>
>> ~Seth
>>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[Kurt Fankhauser]

Been using the injectors for 7 years without needing one yet. I'm not
opposed to them though, Just looking for a quick solution fast here to
power some Airfibers

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Josh Baird  wrote:

> You should really use SiteMonitors if you use SyncInjectors.  It allows
> you to manage and monitor the SyncInjector.
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I just received my first powerinjector + sync today. If I want to power
>> some Airfibers with these do I need to turn the sync off for those ports? I
>> don't see a jumper to turn off sync, is it ok to provider sync on a port
>> with an Airfiber? Does it hurt anything? It looks to me like the only way
>> to turn off sync is buy the additional site monitor base thing to hookup to
>> it and turn it off through the web interface?
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:39 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>>
>>> I have four 5GHz 450i's running on our office tower fed from a GigE
>>> PowerInjector+Sync. They're running 14.1.2. They received sync shortly
>>> after boot, DFS, etc. BTW, no GigE-APC's in line on these yet. I'm like two
>>> short at the moment. But we know that 1000Base-T and sync over power + the
>>> older APC's don't play nice anyway.
>>>
>>> On 11/21/2016 1:23 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>>
>>> I've had a couple of them where I wasn't getting sync and couldn't
>>> figure out why... in one case (maybe both... I don't remember off hand), I
>>> was getting sync to an ePMP, but not to a PMP450i 900mhz AP that were both
>>> plugged into the same sync injector... I didn't really need sync on the
>>> 900mhz at the time, so I just switched it to generate it's own timing, and
>>> I haven't gotten around to trying to figure it out yet, but now I'm
>>> wondering if it would eventually come up if I left it alone.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Seth Mattinen 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 On 11/21/16 10:39, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

> I had all the packet flux gear running for days, plugged in the 450i
> and
> started trying to figure out why it was not receiving sync.  Half hour
> or more later it said it was OK, so the delay had to be Cambium, not
> Packetflux.
>


 Check if the packetflux says it has fix and 1PPS is active on the
 binary tab and that the used pulse count is increasing on the analog tab.

 ~Seth

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[Josh Baird]

You should really use SiteMonitors if you use SyncInjectors.  It allows you
to manage and monitor the SyncInjector.

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Kurt Fankhauser 
wrote:

> I just received my first powerinjector + sync today. If I want to power
> some Airfibers with these do I need to turn the sync off for those ports? I
> don't see a jumper to turn off sync, is it ok to provider sync on a port
> with an Airfiber? Does it hurt anything? It looks to me like the only way
> to turn off sync is buy the additional site monitor base thing to hookup to
> it and turn it off through the web interface?
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:39 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
>> I have four 5GHz 450i's running on our office tower fed from a GigE
>> PowerInjector+Sync. They're running 14.1.2. They received sync shortly
>> after boot, DFS, etc. BTW, no GigE-APC's in line on these yet. I'm like two
>> short at the moment. But we know that 1000Base-T and sync over power + the
>> older APC's don't play nice anyway.
>>
>> On 11/21/2016 1:23 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>
>> I've had a couple of them where I wasn't getting sync and couldn't figure
>> out why... in one case (maybe both... I don't remember off hand), I was
>> getting sync to an ePMP, but not to a PMP450i 900mhz AP that were both
>> plugged into the same sync injector... I didn't really need sync on the
>> 900mhz at the time, so I just switched it to generate it's own timing, and
>> I haven't gotten around to trying to figure it out yet, but now I'm
>> wondering if it would eventually come up if I left it alone.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Seth Mattinen 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/21/16 10:39, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>>
 I had all the packet flux gear running for days, plugged in the 450i and
 started trying to figure out why it was not receiving sync.  Half hour
 or more later it said it was OK, so the delay had to be Cambium, not
 Packetflux.

>>>
>>>
>>> Check if the packetflux says it has fix and 1PPS is active on the binary
>>> tab and that the used pulse count is increasing on the analog tab.
>>>
>>> ~Seth
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[George Skorup]

I have four 5GHz 450i's running on our office tower fed from a GigE 
PowerInjector+Sync. They're running 14.1.2. They received sync shortly 
after boot, DFS, etc. BTW, no GigE-APC's in line on these yet. I'm like 
two short at the moment. But we know that 1000Base-T and sync over power 
+ the older APC's don't play nice anyway.


On 11/21/2016 1:23 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
I've had a couple of them where I wasn't getting sync and couldn't 
figure out why... in one case (maybe both... I don't remember off 
hand), I was getting sync to an ePMP, but not to a PMP450i 900mhz AP 
that were both plugged into the same sync injector... I didn't really 
need sync on the 900mhz at the time, so I just switched it to generate 
it's own timing, and I haven't gotten around to trying to figure it 
out yet, but now I'm wondering if it would eventually come up if I 
left it alone.


On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Seth Mattinen > wrote:


On 11/21/16 10:39, ch...@wbmfg.com  wrote:

I had all the packet flux gear running for days, plugged in
the 450i and
started trying to figure out why it was not receiving sync. 
Half hour

or more later it said it was OK, so the delay had to be
Cambium, not
Packetflux.



Check if the packetflux says it has fix and 1PPS is active on the
binary tab and that the used pulse count is increasing on the
analog tab.

~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[Mathew Howard]

I've had a couple of them where I wasn't getting sync and couldn't figure
out why... in one case (maybe both... I don't remember off hand), I was
getting sync to an ePMP, but not to a PMP450i 900mhz AP that were both
plugged into the same sync injector... I didn't really need sync on the
900mhz at the time, so I just switched it to generate it's own timing, and
I haven't gotten around to trying to figure it out yet, but now I'm
wondering if it would eventually come up if I left it alone.

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Seth Mattinen  wrote:

> On 11/21/16 10:39, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
>> I had all the packet flux gear running for days, plugged in the 450i and
>> started trying to figure out why it was not receiving sync.  Half hour
>> or more later it said it was OK, so the delay had to be Cambium, not
>> Packetflux.
>>
>
>
> Check if the packetflux says it has fix and 1PPS is active on the binary
> tab and that the used pulse count is increasing on the analog tab.
>
> ~Seth
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[Seth Mattinen]

On 11/21/16 10:39, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I had all the packet flux gear running for days, plugged in the 450i and
started trying to figure out why it was not receiving sync.  Half hour
or more later it said it was OK, so the delay had to be Cambium, not
Packetflux.



Check if the packetflux says it has fix and 1PPS is active on the binary 
tab and that the used pulse count is increasing on the analog tab.


~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[chuck]

I had all the packet flux gear running for days, plugged in the 450i and 
started trying to figure out why it was not receiving sync.  Half hour or more 
later it said it was OK, so the delay had to be Cambium, not Packetflux.  

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 11:34 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

The sync doesn't start instantly. takes a minute, but usually less.


bp


On 11/21/2016 10:26 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  Finally decided to receive sync.  Guess it takes some time to wake up.  

  From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 11:23 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

  Hmmm, wonder why the 450I say no sync.  I have it set to auto.  

  From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
  Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 11:21 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

  it was always defaultly on

  On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:15 PM,  wrote:

Is there somewhere in the packetflux gear where you need to turn on the 
sync over poe?  Powering a 450i and it says no sync.
But the GPS board is blinking and the site monitor says it sees satellites. 
 




  -- 

  If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[Bill Prince]

The sync doesn't start instantly. takes a minute, but usually less.

bp


On 11/21/2016 10:26 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Finally decided to receive sync.  Guess it takes some time to wake up.
*From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2016 11:23 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync
Hmmm, wonder why the 450I say no sync.  I have it set to auto.
*From:* That One Guy /sarcasm
*Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2016 11:21 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync
it was always defaultly on
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:15 PM,  wrote:

Is there somewhere in the packetflux gear where you need to turn
on the sync over poe?  Powering a 450i and it says no sync.
But the GPS board is blinking and the site monitor says it sees
satellites.



--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[chuck]

Finally decided to receive sync.  Guess it takes some time to wake up.  

From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 11:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

Hmmm, wonder why the 450I say no sync.  I have it set to auto.  

From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 11:21 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

it was always defaultly on

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:15 PM,  wrote:

  Is there somewhere in the packetflux gear where you need to turn on the sync 
over poe?  Powering a 450i and it says no sync.
  But the GPS board is blinking and the site monitor says it sees satellites.  




-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[chuck]

Hmmm, wonder why the 450I say no sync.  I have it set to auto.  

From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 11:21 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

it was always defaultly on

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:15 PM,  wrote:

  Is there somewhere in the packetflux gear where you need to turn on the sync 
over poe?  Powering a 450i and it says no sync.
  But the GPS board is blinking and the site monitor says it sees satellites.  




-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

it was always defaultly on

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:15 PM,  wrote:

> Is there somewhere in the packetflux gear where you need to turn on the
> sync over poe?  Powering a 450i and it says no sync.
> But the GPS board is blinking and the site monitor says it sees
> satellites.
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

[AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync

[chuck]

Is there somewhere in the packetflux gear where you need to turn on the sync 
over poe?  Powering a 450i and it says no sync.
But the GPS board is blinking and the site monitor says it sees satellites.