[arr] Re: Why CWG song is targeted by...
very well said pavan.. First of all, I don't believe that they've listened the complete track properly.. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@... wrote: Why CWG song is targeted by... Opposition - The name itself says Opposition, what more can one expect from them. Even if CWG becomes a success, they will oppose it saying that the country didn't need these games and only tax payers money was wasted on this. Media - Not every day they get a chance to publish a news against Rahman. Just to show that they are not partial to Rahman in everything he does, they are publishing these kind of articles. So they are using this opportunity to criticize his work by asking opinions about this song from every tom, dick and harry.. Government - Some of them from Govt are using media to convey their displeasures about this song. Why? To divert the attention from other important things(incomplete venues etc etc) and make ARR and the song the scapegoat. After all, they are the easy targets you see. So called Senior Music Composers - Firstly, they can't digest the fact that why only Rahman was asked to compose a theme song and why they were not...and the most hurting factor for them is the price tag that is floating around for that song.. Fans - Nothing new with these poor fellows...Some of them have genuine reasons for their dislike and others are still in 90's mode. They still refuse to believe that Rahman is a human being. They want Roja's and Thiruda Thiruda's all the time..and when Rahman gives them the album with 90's touch, they say that the song is outdated and Rahman has lost his touch... Just my opinion...not to hurt any one...
[arr] CWG-COMMMENTS IN INDIAFM
these below are some of the comments i came through in Indiafm. they are comparing arrahman with himesh what himesh i dont know whats happened with the music senses of the people. they just want to bash arrahman thats it. God is always with arrahman so whoever is saying that arrahmans music is gone are going to praise him after some time. guys whats happened to you all rehman has lost his touch... by Purusharth on Wednesday 01st September 2010 , 06:15:08 PM after oscar rehman has been on cloud 9 n his music is not doing as gud as it used 2 be...anyways...once HR releases his international album 'At Da Edge'...he would be d most sort after composer from India in d international market... HR would have done justice by arjun on Wednesday 01st September 2010 , 05:07:41 PM RAHMAN is an nice composer,but don't know what happened to him while composing for country,yes Himesh ji would have done justice to this song..already commonwealth games are flop,now its theme song is also flop. AR RAHMAN is good but not one of best! by karma on Wednesday 01st September 2010 , 04:34:21 PM Rahman was good and famous for his hit music until late 9ties, but after that a CHARTBUSTER, BACK-BACK hit music composer Himesh Reshammiya was born and no one in music industery was able to do anything to stop his non-stop chartbuster hit music rage and he continues to be the no1 hit musical rockstar today. Rahman's music doesn't have youth and universal appeal. Music of Rhaman is neither melodious nor rocking. So those who blindly say AR RAHMAN is best must do a reality check!
Re: [arr] Food for thought from ARR Sir: Lets Start September with SOME Positiveness. :-)
Wonderful wonderful Wonderful Very good post Manisha. Thanks for this. Lets all dive deep into this post and observe the essence On 9/1/10, manisha madhavan manisha_madha...@yahoo.com wrote: Just thought would post 5 interesting quotes by Rahman Sir that have caught my attention. I know there is an ocean of others, but felt these were the most relevant at the moment. :) Feel free to add your different 5. 1. There is a story of Michelangelo -- if I am not wrong -- which I heard recently. It seems that he was painting beautiful pictures at the back of the church. People told him you are a fool because you are not painting in the front where people can appreciate your work. The answer was: I do my work for God. I think he can watch it anywhere. I thought it was a brilliant answer because everything doesn't need to have instant appreciation. Even if one of you have appreciated those fine nuances, that is enough for me. 2. No one can be completely original, because the notes are already there. I do a lot of fusion from different traditions including Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, reggae, rock and Carnatic music — my favourites. As far as possible, i try to be original. The rest is up to Allah.” 3. We have to push ourselves in any field, whether we like it or not. It is just the question of your mindset. We need to adjust and look into our own selves. The moment you have this attitude that whatever you do is the best, you will cease to grow or for that matter experiment, which is very necessary for creation. I mainly work by instinct.” 4. ”Any great love song, when attributed to a divine source, gets an extra dimension People say any love that is immortal is divine love… The inspiration, therefore, is a divine one..” 5. I also believe in karma. When you do good and think good, there're bound to be good things happening in your life too. The good wishes you earn in this lifetime are the real awards. Good work may or may not get you the awards, but you will always reap the benefits of good wishes, that's the real Reward! Have a great month all :) ManishaM -- regards, Vithur Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? b Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: ad...@arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: arrahmanfans-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: arrahmanfans-dig...@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Re: rahman sir stop composing for indian films and themes these guys forgotten u
Leave Bollywood,yes, but please please dont leave Kollywood. Niven --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, prasad s prasad_s...@... wrote: sir indians have a nature to forget everything easily. sir dont compose music for india. go abroad do only hollywood movies and albums, thats enough. --- On Mon, 30/8/10, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... wrote: From: Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... Subject: [arr] Jai Ho pulse missing from Rahman's Games Hey-O To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 30 August, 2010, 5:37 AM Â http://epaper.mailtoday.in/3082010/epaperimages/3082010/3082010-md-hr-19/124848578.jpg
[arr] Re: A.R.Rahman @ Soundbox Magazine
What is the meaning of this???!!! When i tried to downlaod the PDF file from mediafire...my internet security system detected a high risk software triying to attack my computer!!!.. never before has my computer been attacked from mediafire before...!! either Rajib's file is a virus or mediafire is doing something! Rajib pls do something about it as soon as possible! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@... wrote: Full Magazine http://www.evadowd.com/soundbox1.pdf *Download only ARR related pages in a PDF file* http://www.mediafire.com/?dy8ft8yrpzfyyq8 Music lovers should go for the full magazine !! Recommended from my side ! -- *- Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~*
[arr] CWG Theme song!
For crying out loud.. for the flak that the song is receiving from some people its really not deserving. The song is pretty catchy and has a great energy to it. No one has even heard the high quality versions yet and are slating the song. Its got a great rhythm and energy to it. Lyrics are good too. You know what, perception is heavily guided by expectations. You cannot in a sane frame of mind expect that each AR song is going to change the shape of music to come. Its hard composing anything to fulfil such erroneous expectations. If you have criticisms of the songs per say that are constructive than please feel free to express that and if your comments are inane and pointless poison via words than have the limited courtesy to spare a public mailing list your rants for no apparent reason but that of misplaced frustration. I have mentioned this many times before and will do so now again that morally it's unfair that you criticise something that you yourself probably cannot do or achieve or aspire to achieve or are part of in changing as a standard you do not appreciate. My two cents. Just really really disappointed with the level of discussion in this group these days. I have been a part since the early days and been privileged to have read some soul stirring conversations here. Wishing that we can do more of that again. Sincerely, Matthew Islam -- God Willing, For the valiant heart, nothing is impossible.
[arr] A. R. Rahman - Mere Sur Aur Tere Geet
New compilation on T-Series, 3 CD set Format: CD Number of Discs: 3 Music Director: A. R. Rahman Label: T-SERIES Our Release Date: August 31, 2010 Catalogue #: SFCD 1/1606 http://www.rhythmhouse.in/Detail.aspx?productListing=93104 could this CD include unreleased songs of Raavan (Hindi)? Cant wait to see the tracklist!
Re: [arr] rahman sir stop composing for indian films and themes these guys forgotten u
Yes, they do. If he gives another hit (does not mean that this is a flop) or gets another international award, people will forget this controversy too. :-) So, there's no need to leave India. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:30 PM, prasad s prasad_s...@yahoo.co.in wrote: sir indians have a nature to forget everything easily. sir dont compose music for india. go abroad do only hollywood movies and albums, thats enough. --- On *Mon, 30/8/10, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.com Subject: [arr] Jai Ho pulse missing from Rahman's Games Hey-O To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 30 August, 2010, 5:37 AM http://epaper.mailtoday.in/3082010/epaperimages/3082010/3082010-md-hr-19/124848578.jpg -- Sent from 127.0.0.1
[arr] Re: rahman sir stop composing for indian films and themes these guys forgotten u
ha...ha:) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Niven niven...@... wrote: Leave Bollywood,yes, but please please dont leave Kollywood. Niven --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, prasad s prasad_s666@ wrote: sir indians have a nature to forget everything easily. sir dont compose music for india. go abroad do only hollywood movies and albums, thats enough. --- On Mon, 30/8/10, Gopal Srinivasan catchgops@ wrote: From: Gopal Srinivasan catchgops@ Subject: [arr] Jai Ho pulse missing from Rahman's Games Hey-O To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 30 August, 2010, 5:37 AM Â http://epaper.mailtoday.in/3082010/epaperimages/3082010/3082010-md-hr-19/124848578.jpg
Re: [arr] Is ARR a God or a super power human?
Perfect Write-Up Kalyan K. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 3:41 PM, live for arr Live livefor...@yahoo.comwrote: No. he is a normal human being like us. he has got that extra god given talent called music with which he pleases millions of people around the world. Every human being is capable of making mistakes, cannot do every time the right thing. So, I request the fans to understand that he cannot produce music which will satisy ur ears every time u hear it. there are lots of generes in music in the world. every person who hears cannot like all the generes. So, hear only what u like. ARR cannot score music for the vieweres which he/she likes. He scores the music 4 a films based on the situation which the director gives. He cannot score a Thiruda thiruda for every album. If he scores Thiruda thiruda for every album, thn what will the fan say ARR is become repetitive. The scores sounds like Thiruda thiruda only, u would have not got a Bombay, Dilse, Taal, Jodha Akabar etc. Please understand this basic thing before writing some thing.
Re: [arr] Re: rahman sir stop composing for indian films and themes these guys forgotten u
by your logic, he should stop composing as well. because there are people who don't like his music. leaving bollywood is not a solution. heck there might not be any solution at all with media being a bunch of idiots. let him make real music while the ignorant ones keep making the noise. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, prasad s prasad_s666@ wrote: sir indians have a nature to forget everything easily. sir dont compose music for india. go abroad do only hollywood movies and albums, thats enough. --- On Mon, 30/8/10, Gopal Srinivasan catchgops@ wrote: From: Gopal Srinivasan catchgops@ Subject: [arr] Jai Ho pulse missing from Rahman's Games Hey-O To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comarrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 30 August, 2010, 5:37 AM Â http://epaper.mailtoday.in/3082010/epaperimages/3082010/3082010-md-hr-19/124848578.jpg -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
[arr] (unknown)
Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam collaboration of Mehboob + ARR?? these guys just write anything without checking. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... wrote: http://epaper.hindustantimes.com/PUBLICATIONS/HT/HM/2010/09/01/Article//532/01_09_2010_532_002.jpg
[arr] Kailash Kher about CWG Theme
Kaliash Kher writes on Twitter Heard Rahman's cwg song, its convinient to judge someone as long as you don't need to be in his shoes. would love to seec his judges deal with half of the pressure he deals with. Aaj bhi hum itne hi educated hue hai, ki log shakira ko Rahman se compare kar rahe hai, wah re India! Published by TOI 5 crore for just a theme song? It is a bit slow, and I wonder how much it will connect with the audience. It is shocking to hear that the government has spent 5 crore on it. How can they spend so much on just a theme song? Chalo, Rahman ek badaa naam hai aur logon ki expectations bhi badi hain. Every artiste has to go through such comparisons Kailash Kher You can just see the contrast in these 2 comments.. media is just making up the stuff PS: His account on Twitter is real one, I know as I have met him personally.
Re: [arr] Kailash Kher about CWG Theme
both seem to written by him. I dont see any contrast. He never tweets that he liked the song did he. On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Rivjot riv...@yahoo.com wrote: *Kaliash Kher writes on Twitter * Heard Rahman's cwg song, its convinient to judge someone as long as you don't need to be in his shoes. would love to seec his judges deal with half of the pressure he deals with. Aaj bhi hum itne hi educated hue hai, ki log shakira ko Rahman se compare kar rahe hai, wah re India! *Published by TOI* 5 crore for just a theme song? It is a bit slow, and I wonder how much it will connect with the audience. It is shocking to hear that the government has spent 5 crore on it. How can they spend so much on just a theme song? Chalo, Rahman ek badaa naam hai aur logon ki expectations bhi badi hain. Every artiste has to go through such comparisons – Kailash Kher You can just see the contrast in these 2 comments.. media is just making up the stuff PS: His account on Twitter is real one, I know as I have met him personally. -- www.gomzyphotography.com
Re: [arr] rahman sir stop composing for indian films and themes these guys forgotten u
My thoughts on the controversies.. 1. ARR should stop working on Govt projects which involves political influences and avoid working with people who doesnt have musical taste and knowledge as CWG board. 2. concentrate only on west and hollywood movies and gain more oscars and beome more popular ICON on hollywood... 3. No Indian assignments for another few years and surely people would come beyond ARR for great music Raj From: Kalimuthu kalimu...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, September 1, 2010 9:23:00 PM Subject: Re: [arr] rahman sir stop composing for indian films and themes these guys forgotten u Yes, they do. If he gives another hit (does not mean that this is a flop) or gets another international award, people will forget this controversy too. :-) So, there's no need to leave India. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:30 PM, prasad s prasad_s...@yahoo.co.in wrote: sir indians have a nature to forget everything easily. sir dont compose music for india. go abroad do only hollywood movies and albums, thats enough. --- On Mon, 30/8/10, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.com wrote: From: Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.com Subject: [arr] Jai Ho pulse missing from Rahman's Games Hey-O To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 30 August, 2010, 5:37 AM http://epaper.mailtoday.in/3082010/epaperimages/3082010/3082010-md-hr-19/124848578.jpg -- Sent from 127.0.0.1
Re: [arr] Is ARR a God or a super power human?
Who wants ARR to score THIRUDA Thiruda for every album of his?? No one wants him to do so. Please try to correctly interpret posts here. While making comparisons with Thiruda Thiruda here... we dont want him to repeat thiruda thriuda. We want him to give 'Innovative Equivalents' to thiruda thiruda. Please quote that phrase. For example, Rangeela is a Kadhalan etc are completely different from thiruda thiruda. But Rangeela is an innovative equivalent to thiruda thiruda, eventhough it has no relation to thiruda thiruda. We want innovative equivalents... Not repeats. I have posted this a hundred times in this groups. Many have not understood. Iam sure, again after 6 weeks, another post will come saying that some people want ARR to repeat thiruda thiruda in every work of his. On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Kalyan K kalyan...@gmail.com wrote: Perfect Write-Up Kalyan K. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 3:41 PM, live for arr Live livefor...@yahoo.comwrote: No. he is a normal human being like us. he has got that extra god given talent called music with which he pleases millions of people around the world. Every human being is capable of making mistakes, cannot do every time the right thing. So, I request the fans to understand that he cannot produce music which will satisy ur ears every time u hear it. there are lots of generes in music in the world. every person who hears cannot like all the generes. So, hear only what u like. ARR cannot score music for the vieweres which he/she likes. He scores the music 4 a films based on the situation which the director gives. He cannot score a Thiruda thiruda for every album. If he scores Thiruda thiruda for every album, thn what will the fan say ARR is become repetitive. The scores sounds like Thiruda thiruda only, u would have not got a Bombay, Dilse, Taal, Jodha Akabar etc. Please understand this basic thing before writing some thing.
[arr] Re: Kailash Kher about CWG Theme
Sigh! It's quite sad, the status of Indian media. I was watching a 'Half-hour special' on Headlines Today discussing the CWG theme. And they said, AR had disappointed India. I wasn't angry, I was laughing, AR - the man who has won so many laurels for his nation and he's ashamed for coming a CWG theme. COME ON. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Rivjot riv...@... wrote: Kaliash Kher writes on Twitter Heard Rahman's cwg song, its convinient to judge someone as long as you don't need to be in his shoes. would love to seec his judges deal with half of the pressure he deals with. Aaj bhi hum itne hi educated hue hai, ki log shakira ko Rahman se compare kar rahe hai, wah re India! Published by TOI 5 crore for just a theme song? It is a bit slow, and I wonder how much it will connect with the audience. It is shocking to hear that the government has spent 5 crore on it. How can they spend so much on just a theme song? Chalo, Rahman ek badaa naam hai aur logon ki expectations bhi badi hain. Every artiste has to go through such comparisons Kailash Kher You can just see the contrast in these 2 comments.. media is just making up the stuff PS: His account on Twitter is real one, I know as I have met him personally.
Re: [arr] Re: rahman sir stop composing for indian films and themes these guys forgotten u
Very nice to see such funny threads. Who forgot ARR??? Everyone is still praising ARR. He is still the undisputed No.1 in the industry. He is still the king. The only thing is some poeple (including me) are comparing the quality of his current songs with some of his previous works. We are comparing him with himself only. Not others. So, who is forgotten here?
[arr] Re: Kailash Kher about CWG Theme
ARR disappoints India? And suddenly all the Oscars and Grammies are forgotten? How ARR has brought pride to India is forgotten? GET A LIFE, MEDIA! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Sriram Iyer sriramiye...@... wrote: Sigh! It's quite sad, the status of Indian media. I was watching a 'Half-hour special' on Headlines Today discussing the CWG theme. And they said, AR had disappointed India. I wasn't angry, I was laughing, AR - the man who has won so many laurels for his nation and he's ashamed for coming a CWG theme. COME ON. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Rivjot rivjot@ wrote: Kaliash Kher writes on Twitter Heard Rahman's cwg song, its convinient to judge someone as long as you don't need to be in his shoes. would love to seec his judges deal with half of the pressure he deals with. Aaj bhi hum itne hi educated hue hai, ki log shakira ko Rahman se compare kar rahe hai, wah re India! Published by TOI 5 crore for just a theme song? It is a bit slow, and I wonder how much it will connect with the audience. It is shocking to hear that the government has spent 5 crore on it. How can they spend so much on just a theme song? Chalo, Rahman ek badaa naam hai aur logon ki expectations bhi badi hain. Every artiste has to go through such comparisons Kailash Kher You can just see the contrast in these 2 comments.. media is just making up the stuff PS: His account on Twitter is real one, I know as I have met him personally.
Re: [arr] Kailash Kher about CWG Theme
It is natural for people to go overboard and question everything after the news about corruption in CWG. I don't think 5 crore is just for song composition alone - I read somewhere that it also includes his appearances and live performances as well. I have also read that more than one song was composed. Can Gopal or Vijay confirm this please? I wish CWG games a rousing success but I guess our media is hell-bent in belittling the event as much as they can and sad to see our ARR caught in this act. Awaiting for Jhoota Hi Sahi's music release... so we can move on. Cheers From: Rivjot riv...@yahoo.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, September 1, 2010 10:22:04 AM Subject: [arr] Kailash Kher about CWG Theme Kaliash Kher writes on Twitter Heard Rahman's cwg song, its convinient to judge someone as long as you don't need to be in his shoes. would love to seec his judges deal with half of the pressure he deals with. Aaj bhi hum itne hi educated hue hai, ki log shakira ko Rahman se compare kar rahe hai, wah re India! Published by TOI 5 crore for just a theme song? It is a bit slow, and I wonder how much it will connect with the audience. It is shocking to hear that the government has spent 5 crore on it. How can they spend so much on just a theme song? Chalo, Rahman ek badaa naam hai aur logon ki expectations bhi badi hain. Every artiste has to go through such comparisons – Kailash Kher You can just see the contrast in these 2 comments.. media is just making up the stuff PS: His account on Twitter is real one, I know as I have met him personally.
[arr] May I please request that the incessant whining stop?
From KP's post: I have posted this a hundred times in this groups. This is the problem that a lot of us have with you folks. If you don't like an album or even a bunch of albums, fine...tell us why in an intelligent and constructive manner. But, what you guys do is keep beating a dead horse with the same whining and complaining all the time about how ARR doesn't do this and ARR doesn't do that and ARR doesn't satisfy you anymore and ARR isn't composing your fantasy album. You sound like a bunch of brats that are never satisfied with anything ARR does today. We understand what you want, ok? You don't have to keep drilling that in here. Many here don't agree with you. Many of us here think that ARR is in fact innovating at the level that you talk about, but within a different context and direction than what he did back in the 1990s. And even if ARR isn't being as innovative as what you claim, there are so many other strengths to his music of today that we love to talk about, but you whining folks never acknowledge that and many times counter it with the same complaining. Will you guys please stop with the same negativity and whining that goes on and on? Did you read the post by Mathew Islam? Read it carefully! Why don't you talk about something that you appreciate about ARR's music these days instead of focusing on what you think is lacking all the time? Or talk about some of ARR's albums from the 1990s that you love and discuss whywe'd love to join you in your appreciation. Please stop the whining and constant inane negativity! It really ruins the whole point of what this group is about and gets in the way of more intelligent and balanced discussions.appreciation and constructive criticism of ARR's music. If you prefer ARR of the 1990s, I and many others here have no problem with thata lot may agree with you. But, say it once and move ondon't keep bringing it up every single time a new ARR album comes out. If you don't like the album, focus on the album alone and tell us why you don't like it in a constructive manner and quit complaining that ARR doesn't compose for you personally. I hope I don't have to repeat this same exact message again sometime later. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kishore parayath kishore.paray...@... wrote: Who wants ARR to score THIRUDA Thiruda for every album of his?? No one wants him to do so. Please try to correctly interpret posts here. While making comparisons with Thiruda Thiruda here... we dont want him to repeat thiruda thriuda. We want him to give 'Innovative Equivalents' to thiruda thiruda. Please quote that phrase. For example, Rangeela is a Kadhalan etc are completely different from thiruda thiruda. But Rangeela is an innovative equivalent to thiruda thiruda, eventhough it has no relation to thiruda thiruda. We want innovative equivalents... Not repeats. I have posted this a hundred times in this groups. Many have not understood. Iam sure, again after 6 weeks, another post will come saying that some people want ARR to repeat thiruda thiruda in every work of his. On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Kalyan K kalyan...@... wrote: Perfect Write-Up Kalyan K. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 3:41 PM, live for arr Live livefor...@...wrote: No. he is a normal human being like us. he has got that extra god given talent called music with which he pleases millions of people around the world. Every human being is capable of making mistakes, cannot do every time the right thing. So, I request the fans to understand that he cannot produce music which will satisy ur ears every time u hear it. there are lots of generes in music in the world. every person who hears cannot like all the generes. So, hear only what u like. ARR cannot score music for the vieweres which he/she likes. He scores the music 4 a films based on the situation which the director gives. He cannot score a Thiruda thiruda for every album. If he scores Thiruda thiruda for every album, thn what will the fan say ARR is become repetitive. The scores sounds like Thiruda thiruda only, u would have not got a Bombay, Dilse, Taal, Jodha Akabar etc. Please understand this basic thing before writing some thing.
[arr] Re: CWG Theme song!
Mathew, I completely agree with you. I too am tired of the negativity and whining that goes on in here. I made a request for those to stop the constant whining and pointless negativity in another thread. Most members in this group I feel are mature and balanced and contribute to healthy, intelligent discussionsthere are only a few immature members who keep beating the same negative drum that really irritates the rest of us, as you know. I know what you mean about the good ol days of this group...I was there too. I'm no perfect poster and I've had my not so great moments in here, but I try to be balanced and contribute in a positive way to healthy and meaningful discussion of ARR's music. Hope we can continue the great traditions of this group without letting a few distract and divert us. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Islam matthewis...@... wrote: For crying out loud.. for the flak that the song is receiving from some people its really not deserving. The song is pretty catchy and has a great energy to it. No one has even heard the high quality versions yet and are slating the song. Its got a great rhythm and energy to it. Lyrics are good too. You know what, perception is heavily guided by expectations. You cannot in a sane frame of mind expect that each AR song is going to change the shape of music to come. Its hard composing anything to fulfil such erroneous expectations. If you have criticisms of the songs per say that are constructive than please feel free to express that and if your comments are inane and pointless poison via words than have the limited courtesy to spare a public mailing list your rants for no apparent reason but that of misplaced frustration. I have mentioned this many times before and will do so now again that morally it's unfair that you criticise something that you yourself probably cannot do or achieve or aspire to achieve or are part of in changing as a standard you do not appreciate. My two cents. Just really really disappointed with the level of discussion in this group these days. I have been a part since the early days and been privileged to have read some soul stirring conversations here. Wishing that we can do more of that again. Sincerely, Matthew Islam -- God Willing, For the valiant heart, nothing is impossible.
[arr] WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN
As A R Rahman asked media to project 'positive image' of Common Wealth Games.Then media turned against him and they are now portaying his negative image now.They just want some big newsif they don't find any then they will for anything/anyone any try to make news out of it.remember the mumbai blasts..how they indirectly helpled in guiding them.they just need some news and coming to politicians, they had planned it that they would make use of it by disliking the song song just to divert the attention of people from the ACTUAL WORK.ACTUAL EVENT..that REALLY MATTERS .and we as a fans are responsible for all these..the media is watching our group/forum..which is the core source to everything they are getting.we as a fans need to stop all this. A R Rahman needs our support more than ever this time..we need to support him.we need to hate media.If you are truly A R Rahman's ..support him by just replying to this messageYES WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN. Hope you Are understanding what I am saying..and please stop sending negative messages Moderators we need your help please filter the negative messages. Just listen to the track 'The Power of Politics'a BGM from Iruvar/Iddaru..its awsome...this BGM perfectly fits the present situation.
Re: [arr] Re: CWG Theme song!
sometimes more than the media, we ourselves make this issue such a humongous one. and i guess i myself have contributed to that to some extend. let's just move on. let the media and politicians say whatever they want. leave this CWG hell once and for all. AR knows better than anyone how to deal with it. :) On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 2:32 AM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: Mathew, I completely agree with you. I too am tired of the negativity and whining that goes on in here. I made a request for those to stop the constant whining and pointless negativity in another thread. Most members in this group I feel are mature and balanced and contribute to healthy, intelligent discussionsthere are only a few immature members who keep beating the same negative drum that really irritates the rest of us, as you know. I know what you mean about the good ol days of this group...I was there too. I'm no perfect poster and I've had my not so great moments in here, but I try to be balanced and contribute in a positive way to healthy and meaningful discussion of ARR's music. Hope we can continue the great traditions of this group without letting a few distract and divert us. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Matthew Islam matthewis...@... wrote: For crying out loud.. for the flak that the song is receiving from some people its really not deserving. The song is pretty catchy and has a great energy to it. No one has even heard the high quality versions yet and are slating the song. Its got a great rhythm and energy to it. Lyrics are good too. You know what, perception is heavily guided by expectations. You cannot in a sane frame of mind expect that each AR song is going to change the shape of music to come. Its hard composing anything to fulfil such erroneous expectations. If you have criticisms of the songs per say that are constructive than please feel free to express that and if your comments are inane and pointless poison via words than have the limited courtesy to spare a public mailing list your rants for no apparent reason but that of misplaced frustration. I have mentioned this many times before and will do so now again that morally it's unfair that you criticise something that you yourself probably cannot do or achieve or aspire to achieve or are part of in changing as a standard you do not appreciate. My two cents. Just really really disappointed with the level of discussion in this group these days. I have been a part since the early days and been privileged to have read some soul stirring conversations here. Wishing that we can do more of that again. Sincerely, Matthew Islam -- God Willing, For the valiant heart, nothing is impossible. -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
Re: [arr] May I please request that the incessant whining stop?
If i can talk about myself here , I find it a waste of time to even praise ARR.Everyone can praise him in hundreds of different ways , using thousands of different words.Therez no end to it !! and there should not be any,but all those praising mails doesn't amuse me much !! Share experiences instead,they r more interesting !! Many times i skip all those praising mails !! I dont find them interesting,unless it is informative , NOT emotional. and therez no point of saying negative things about him. Seriously i dont find the need of it unless u want a big attraction from here ( I am sure some people is very successful in it ) !! Let's keep this emotional praises and negativity aside and be informative !! try collecting some rare info,video,pics etc of ARR !! That is why i am here !! On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 2:58 AM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: From KP's post: I have posted this a hundred times in this groups. This is the problem that a lot of us have with you folks. If you don't like an album or even a bunch of albums, fine...tell us why in an intelligent and constructive manner. But, what you guys do is keep beating a dead horse with the same whining and complaining all the time about how ARR doesn't do this and ARR doesn't do that and ARR doesn't satisfy you anymore and ARR isn't composing your fantasy album. You sound like a bunch of brats that are never satisfied with anything ARR does today. We understand what you want, ok? You don't have to keep drilling that in here. Many here don't agree with you. Many of us here think that ARR is in fact innovating at the level that you talk about, but within a different context and direction than what he did back in the 1990s. And even if ARR isn't being as innovative as what you claim, there are so many other strengths to his music of today that we love to talk about, but you whining folks never acknowledge that and many times counter it with the same complaining. Will you guys please stop with the same negativity and whining that goes on and on? Did you read the post by Mathew Islam? Read it carefully! Why don't you talk about something that you appreciate about ARR's music these days instead of focusing on what you think is lacking all the time? Or talk about some of ARR's albums from the 1990s that you love and discuss whywe'd love to join you in your appreciation. Please stop the whining and constant inane negativity! It really ruins the whole point of what this group is about and gets in the way of more intelligent and balanced discussions.appreciation and constructive criticism of ARR's music. If you prefer ARR of the 1990s, I and many others here have no problem with thata lot may agree with you. But, say it once and move ondon't keep bringing it up every single time a new ARR album comes out. If you don't like the album, focus on the album alone and tell us why you don't like it in a constructive manner and quit complaining that ARR doesn't compose for you personally. I hope I don't have to repeat this same exact message again sometime later. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kishore parayath kishore.paray...@... wrote: Who wants ARR to score THIRUDA Thiruda for every album of his?? No one wants him to do so. Please try to correctly interpret posts here. While making comparisons with Thiruda Thiruda here... we dont want him to repeat thiruda thriuda. We want him to give 'Innovative Equivalents' to thiruda thiruda. Please quote that phrase. For example, Rangeela is a Kadhalan etc are completely different from thiruda thiruda. But Rangeela is an innovative equivalent to thiruda thiruda, eventhough it has no relation to thiruda thiruda. We want innovative equivalents... Not repeats. I have posted this a hundred times in this groups. Many have not understood. Iam sure, again after 6 weeks, another post will come saying that some people want ARR to repeat thiruda thiruda in every work of his. On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Kalyan K kalyan...@... wrote: Perfect Write-Up Kalyan K. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 3:41 PM, live for arr Live liveforarr@ ...wrote: No. he is a normal human being like us. he has got that extra god given talent called music with which he pleases millions of people around the world. Every human being is capable of making mistakes, cannot do every time the right thing. So, I request the fans to understand that he cannot produce music which will satisy ur ears every time u hear it. there are lots of generes in music in the world. every person who hears cannot like all the generes. So, hear only what u like. ARR cannot score music for the vieweres which he/she likes. He scores the music 4 a films based on the situation which the director gives. He cannot score a Thiruda thiruda for every album. If he scores Thiruda thiruda for every album, thn what will
Re: [arr] Kailash Kher about CWG Theme
On Twitter he says one shouldnt judge ARR's work and on TOI he is actually judging the work. TOI says comparions are natural and on Twitter he is saying Indians are not educated/intelligent for comparing the song with Shakira's. I personally did see the contrast.. TOI message is completely negative and on Twitter he seems to be taking ARR's side. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy gomtesh.upad...@... wrote: both seem to written by him. I dont see any contrast. He never tweets that he liked the song did he. On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Rivjot riv...@... wrote: *Kaliash Kher writes on Twitter * Heard Rahman's cwg song, its convinient to judge someone as long as you don't need to be in his shoes. would love to seec his judges deal with half of the pressure he deals with. Aaj bhi hum itne hi educated hue hai, ki log shakira ko Rahman se compare kar rahe hai, wah re India! *Published by TOI* 5 crore for just a theme song? It is a bit slow, and I wonder how much it will connect with the audience. It is shocking to hear that the government has spent 5 crore on it. How can they spend so much on just a theme song? Chalo, Rahman ek badaa naam hai aur logon ki expectations bhi badi hain. Every artiste has to go through such comparisons Kailash Kher You can just see the contrast in these 2 comments.. media is just making up the stuff PS: His account on Twitter is real one, I know as I have met him personally. -- www.gomzyphotography.com
Re: [arr] CWG-COMMMENTS IN INDIAFM
will always remain an unfulfilled wishlist. On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 2:15 PM, lawrencejeromeb lawrencejero...@yahoo.comwrote: these below are some of the comments i came through in Indiafm. they are comparing arrahman with himesh what himesh i dont know whats happened with the music senses of the people. they just want to bash arrahman thats it. God is always with arrahman so whoever is saying that arrahmans music is gone are going to praise him after some time. guys whats happened to you all rehman has lost his touch... by Purusharth on Wednesday 01st September 2010 , 06:15:08 PM after oscar rehman has been on cloud 9 n his music is not doing as gud as it used 2 be...anyways...once HR releases his international album 'At Da Edge'...he would be d most sort after composer from India in d international market... HR would have done justice by arjun on Wednesday 01st September 2010 , 05:07:41 PM RAHMAN is an nice composer,but don't know what happened to him while composing for country,yes Himesh ji would have done justice to this song..already commonwealth games are flop,now its theme song is also flop. AR RAHMAN is good but not one of best! by karma on Wednesday 01st September 2010 , 04:34:21 PM Rahman was good and famous for his hit music until late 9ties, but after that a CHARTBUSTER, BACK-BACK hit music composer Himesh Reshammiya was born and no one in music industery was able to do anything to stop his non-stop chartbuster hit music rage and he continues to be the no1 hit musical rockstar today. Rahman's music doesn't have youth and universal appeal. Music of Rhaman is neither melodious nor rocking. So those who blindly say AR RAHMAN is best must do a reality check!
[arr] (unknown)
Dekho Games ho rahi hain, It's gaming, it's gaming, it's gaming. Mera dil khel raha hain, it's playing, it's playing, it's playing. ;):D Cheers --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... wrote: http://twitter.com/SarkarSaj/status/22602078214
Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take
Guys, Honestly, this is below the ARR standards, which are so high and gets higher with time..again this is what I feel, not generalising on any opinion. It failed to grow in me despite several hearings. But its fine...we cannot expect Tendulkar to score a century in every match, Bill Gates to be on the top of billionaires list forever and ARR to have all his songs as super-duper-first-hearing hit. thanks Regards, Ashok Singh Purohit --- On Wed, 1/9/10, wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in wrote: From: wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in Subject: [arr] CWG track..heres my take To: rahman fans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 1 September, 2010, 7:42 AM Few years back, i was in a gathering where people were sayin AR Rahman is spoiling the present music scene with 'computer music' and all his songs sound same with 'western beats' and no proper pronunciation. I ignored it and later played this track called Poo Kodiyin Punnagai from Iruvar. They all said look at those days music..what melody and each word is so clear and soft to ears...these days rahman and other can't even imaging to compose music like this! to this i replied ... This track is by AR Rahman ..from Iruvar.. .. they were just dump struck and chewed their own words.. ( for those of you unaware, this track sounds very retro like those in Black and White days..killer track!!) So the point is, if we approach things with pre-conceived notion, nothing can change the mindset. Commonwealth games has a not lot negative air now. What with scams, incomplete works and New Delhi dug up...people are not happy. One theme song can't improve things and it will succumb to pressures. Even if Rahman would have composed a fast track like Waka Waka, Maro Maro ( Boys)...people would have said the same. We are dealing with politicians here...remember! So chill. regards Please donate to my foundation : http://www.cradleindia.org Remixes I Originals I Opinions at http://www.wiredbeats.com
Re: [arr] Mehboob's directorial debut
On 9/1/2010 7:09 PM India Time, _Gopal Srinivasan_ wrote: http://epaper.hindustantimes.com/PUBLICATIONS/HT/HM/2010/09/01/Article//532/01_09_2010_532_002.jpg Mehboob dodges question about ARR composing for his film, but it will be unthinkable that ARR doesn't do Mehboob's film. So, I am keeping my hopes for the combo. rawat
Re: [arr] Why CWG song is targeted by...
well, u nailed in summing up Indian public's opinion about ARRs CWG. 1.5 years after Oscar, this is a turmoil created by media for absolutely no reason. the senior MDs who raised their controversial opinion abt this song - where were they when ARR received his double Oscar and double grammy? hiding in a dark room to avoid the aura of ARRs victory? just shutting their mouth stinged with envy? On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 5:02 AM, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@yahoo.comwrote: Why CWG song is targeted by... Opposition - The name itself says Opposition, what more can one expect from them. Even if CWG becomes a success, they will oppose it saying that the country didn't need these games and only tax payers money was wasted on this. Media - Not every day they get a chance to publish a news against Rahman. Just to show that they are not partial to Rahman in everything he does, they are publishing these kind of articles. So they are using this opportunity to criticize his work by asking opinions about this song from every tom, dick and harry.. Government - Some of them from Govt are using media to convey their displeasures about this song. Why? To divert the attention from other important things(incomplete venues etc etc) and make ARR and the song the scapegoat. After all, they are the easy targets you see. So called Senior Music Composers - Firstly, they can't digest the fact that why only Rahman was asked to compose a theme song and why they were not...and the most hurting factor for them is the price tag that is floating around for that song.. Fans - Nothing new with these poor fellows...Some of them have genuine reasons for their dislike and others are still in 90's mode. They still refuse to believe that Rahman is a human being. They want Roja's and Thiruda Thiruda's all the time..and when Rahman gives them the album with 90's touch, they say that the song is outdated and Rahman has lost his touch... Just my opinion...not to hurt any one...
Re: [arr] CWG song waka waka
I Second your arguments. Especially, the first point. I think that made the Media and people set their expectations very very very high. But, at the same time i personally do believe AR has done complete justice to the song and the Song is rocking. Kalyan K. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:32 AM, light4_u light...@yahoo.co.in wrote: I will try to be very honest in my views. As been one of the biggest fans of ARR since years I m extremly disappointed with the song. Its not bad but its not even close to the capability of ARR n his name in the music world, he should, he could, he would have done much much better than this. The things went wrong in cwg song according to me r, 1. When some media guy asked him is it like waka waka ? ARR responded to that we tried to go beyond than waka waka or some thing like that he replied. With this reply of ARR people started to expect the song better than chaiyyan chiyaan or maa tujhe salaam, he shouldn't have said that but insted he should have said no its not like waka waka its different from that. He also said that i m working on it since 6 months. When he can deliver the whole sound track like slumdog millionaire within 21 days its but natural that people will expect him to give 100 times better a single song than the songs of sdm. 2. I loved waka waka song. Waka waka's tune was simple but melodious. Song was catchy, peppy, groovy easy to sing, easy to tap one's feet on it, superb video n shakira's charm. 3. ARR's music n compositions r difficult to understand for many people, it takes time to grow, though many people cant understand his music even afer 100 times listen. 4. ARR's movies n private albums not ment for whole india but for arr's fans n those people who can understand music very wel. Cwg song is for whole india n every1 wants to be it like their taste. We (arr fans) care a damn when others dont like his music for movies or private album's, but this time the case is different because he was suppose to give a song which can easily sung by every indian n loved by every1 (he tried to do so) but he couldn't reach his goal. 5. This kind of phase which arr is going through is not first time it has happened before also when people tried to demoralise him n tried very hard to lower his popularity, but by the grace of Almighty he only climed higher n higher. This phase is worst. But whenever that happened when his work was critisized at the extreme level he came with a BANG and silented all his critics. First, at the time of Daud n other movies of his at that time, he came with Taal etc., second time at the time of Bose-the forgetton hero n movies of his at that time, he came with RDB. ARR n Sachin Tendulkar r alike, whenever people say sachin is finish now, he hits a century, whenever people stared saying arr is gonna be a history now he came with the best music anyone can give in the world. This is the same kind of phase from which arr is going through right now, but i m very much sure that sooner or later he will make every1 silent once again inshaAllah taala. with best regards, Shehzad.
Re: [arr]problems with the CWG song - did ARR feel truly inspired?
On 9/1/2010 2:48 AM India Time, _vedavid manick_ wrote: People wanted something like waka waka. Then they should have bought waka waka copyrights and used that in CWG also. They should not have bothered our man. -- Rawat
Re: [arr] Re: A.R.Rahman @ Soundbox Magazine
Ahh..I got about 68 Downloads on that file so far .. No one complained about it except you !! There must be some prob in ur pc i guess !! I am sure there is no prob in the file or mediafire !! Mediafire wouldnt even allow me to upload it if therez any virus in it !! Or go for the full Mag instead !! :-) On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Lavanya lazykid...@gmail.com wrote: What is the meaning of this???!!! When i tried to downlaod the PDF file from mediafire...my internet security system detected a high risk software triying to attack my computer!!!.. never before has my computer been attacked from mediafire before...!! either Rajib's file is a virus or mediafire is doing something! Rajib pls do something about it as soon as possible! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@... wrote: Full Magazine http://www.evadowd.com/soundbox1.pdf *Download only ARR related pages in a PDF file* http://www.mediafire.com/?dy8ft8yrpzfyyq8 Music lovers should go for the full magazine !! Recommended from my side ! -- *- Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~* Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? b Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: ad...@arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: arrahmanfans-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links -- *- Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~*
[arr] Re: CWG-COMMMENTS IN INDIAFM
I usually don get angry on the bashers of ARR sirbut this particular mail is really testing my patience...I am tempted to use unparliamentary words here...I mean, how could one say HIMESH as a Chartbuster, Rocking Music star...He himself would laugh at this..So has most of the media decided to target ARR sir???...if ARR sir has lost his touch in 90's the from where did the Film fares, Oscars, Grammies, Golden Globes come from?..Came from thin air?..Absolutely ridiculoussayin Himesh would become the most sought after musician after hi release, is the joke of the millennium !!!I am not gonna type any more!!!, I just cant control myself from using some words...@#!$#$ --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, lawrencejeromeb lawrencejero...@... wrote: these below are some of the comments i came through in Indiafm. they are comparing arrahman with himesh what himesh i dont know whats happened with the music senses of the people. they just want to bash arrahman thats it. God is always with arrahman so whoever is saying that arrahmans music is gone are going to praise him after some time. guys whats happened to you all rehman has lost his touch... by Purusharth on Wednesday 01st September 2010 , 06:15:08 PM after oscar rehman has been on cloud 9 n his music is not doing as gud as it used 2 be...anyways...once HR releases his international album 'At Da Edge'...he would be d most sort after composer from India in d international market... HR would have done justice by arjun on Wednesday 01st September 2010 , 05:07:41 PM RAHMAN is an nice composer,but don't know what happened to him while composing for country,yes Himesh ji would have done justice to this song..already commonwealth games are flop,now its theme song is also flop. AR RAHMAN is good but not one of best! by karma on Wednesday 01st September 2010 , 04:34:21 PM Rahman was good and famous for his hit music until late 9ties, but after that a CHARTBUSTER, BACK-BACK hit music composer Himesh Reshammiya was born and no one in music industery was able to do anything to stop his non-stop chartbuster hit music rage and he continues to be the no1 hit musical rockstar today. Rahman's music doesn't have youth and universal appeal. Music of Rhaman is neither melodious nor rocking. So those who blindly say AR RAHMAN is best must do a reality check!
[arr] CWG anthem of the GOD
All creatures of GOD are wonderful. There is an proverb in tamilnadu 'Donkey does not know camphor's smell' but we know our god's gifts - the every songs are always great. his efforts to complete a composition are wellknown.
[arr] Re: CWG-COMMMENTS IN INDIAFM
h ROFL. AR compared to Himesh will be the best JOKE of any millenium Let there be constructive criticism but for god's sake, don't compare AR with dumb heads making music out there, claiming to be the best... Kitcha --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, lawrencejeromeb lawrencejero...@... wrote: these below are some of the comments i came through in Indiafm. they are comparing arrahman with himesh what himesh i dont know whats happened with the music senses of the people. they just want to bash arrahman thats it. God is always with arrahman so whoever is saying that arrahmans music is gone are going to praise him after some time. guys whats happened to you all rehman has lost his touch... by Purusharth on Wednesday 01st September 2010 , 06:15:08 PM after oscar rehman has been on cloud 9 n his music is not doing as gud as it used 2 be...anyways...once HR releases his international album 'At Da Edge'...he would be d most sort after composer from India in d international market... HR would have done justice by arjun on Wednesday 01st September 2010 , 05:07:41 PM RAHMAN is an nice composer,but don't know what happened to him while composing for country,yes Himesh ji would have done justice to this song..already commonwealth games are flop,now its theme song is also flop. AR RAHMAN is good but not one of best! by karma on Wednesday 01st September 2010 , 04:34:21 PM Rahman was good and famous for his hit music until late 9ties, but after that a CHARTBUSTER, BACK-BACK hit music composer Himesh Reshammiya was born and no one in music industery was able to do anything to stop his non-stop chartbuster hit music rage and he continues to be the no1 hit musical rockstar today. Rahman's music doesn't have youth and universal appeal. Music of Rhaman is neither melodious nor rocking. So those who blindly say AR RAHMAN is best must do a reality check!
Re: [arr] Is ARR a God or a super power human?
Well written! It's sad that some one has to write something like this every time... On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 3:41 PM, live for arr Live livefor...@yahoo.comwrote: No. he is a normal human being like us. he has got that extra god given talent called music with which he pleases millions of people around the world. Every human being is capable of making mistakes, cannot do every time the right thing. So, I request the fans to understand that he cannot produce music which will satisy ur ears every time u hear it. there are lots of generes in music in the world. every person who hears cannot like all the generes. So, hear only what u like. ARR cannot score music for the vieweres which he/she likes. He scores the music 4 a films based on the situation which the director gives. He cannot score a Thiruda thiruda for every album. If he scores Thiruda thiruda for every album, thn what will the fan say ARR is become repetitive. The scores sounds like Thiruda thiruda only, u would have not got a Bombay, Dilse, Taal, Jodha Akabar etc. Please understand this basic thing before writing some thing. -- Cheers, Madhavan.R Be a Music Fan; not a Music Pirate!
Re: [arr] May I please request that the incessant whining stop?
Rajib, I appreciate your request for experiences and rare stuff. That should certainly be more a part of our group's discussions. However, this is a FAN group. As fans, we praise and appreciate ARR. A lot of us are emotional about ARR and his music and hence express our emotions here too positively in praise of him. I don't see anything wrong in that. If you don't appreciate that part of our group, that's fine, but please don't expect others to suddenly rake in praises for ARR when a lot of us do feel emotional about him and his music. It only comes naturally to a lot of us. Now, I don't approve of being a fanboy and throwing praises to each and every ARR song or release. I also appreciate constructive criticism and I have been critical of ARR's music in the past. I agree with the overall theme of your post that either extreme is not goodtoo much praise and too much negativity. Some here have alluded and insinuated that I only write about ARR in a positive way or write large reviews just to attract attention from ARR and create hype. That is utterly and completely false. Those who know me personally know that I am sincere about my write ups about ARR and his music and that I just don't hype things up just to attract praise or ARR's attention. For me, it's a form of self expression, almost like another artthe art of appreciating ARR and his music. I repeat, I do NOT consider myself a fanboy and I do NOT create writeups just for hype and praise. I have much better things to do in my life like being a father to my 2 small chlidren, working a professional job, being a good husband and son, and being a good citizen in general. I'm a lot more secure about myself than some of you think I am. So, those of you in this group who like to throw barbs at me every now and then, please stop as your accusations and insinuations have no bearing or ground whatsoever except your crooked thinking. You don't know me personally. Rajib, I hope you were not alluding to me your post and I hope you were not trying to throw a barb my way. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@... wrote: If i can talk about myself here , I find it a waste of time to even praise ARR.Everyone can praise him in hundreds of different ways , using thousands of different words.Therez no end to it !! and there should not be any,but all those praising mails doesn't amuse me much !! Share experiences instead,they r more interesting !! Many times i skip all those praising mails !! I dont find them interesting,unless it is informative , NOT emotional. and therez no point of saying negative things about him. Seriously i dont find the need of it unless u want a big attraction from here ( I am sure some people is very successful in it ) !! Let's keep this emotional praises and negativity aside and be informative !! try collecting some rare info,video,pics etc of ARR !! That is why i am here !! On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 2:58 AM, AJ purev...@... wrote: From KP's post: I have posted this a hundred times in this groups. This is the problem that a lot of us have with you folks. If you don't like an album or even a bunch of albums, fine...tell us why in an intelligent and constructive manner. But, what you guys do is keep beating a dead horse with the same whining and complaining all the time about how ARR doesn't do this and ARR doesn't do that and ARR doesn't satisfy you anymore and ARR isn't composing your fantasy album. You sound like a bunch of brats that are never satisfied with anything ARR does today. We understand what you want, ok? You don't have to keep drilling that in here. Many here don't agree with you. Many of us here think that ARR is in fact innovating at the level that you talk about, but within a different context and direction than what he did back in the 1990s. And even if ARR isn't being as innovative as what you claim, there are so many other strengths to his music of today that we love to talk about, but you whining folks never acknowledge that and many times counter it with the same complaining. Will you guys please stop with the same negativity and whining that goes on and on? Did you read the post by Mathew Islam? Read it carefully! Why don't you talk about something that you appreciate about ARR's music these days instead of focusing on what you think is lacking all the time? Or talk about some of ARR's albums from the 1990s that you love and discuss whywe'd love to join you in your appreciation. Please stop the whining and constant inane negativity! It really ruins the whole point of what this group is about and gets in the way of more intelligent and balanced discussions.appreciation and constructive criticism of ARR's music. If you prefer ARR of the 1990s, I and many others here have no problem with thata lot may agree with you. But, say it once and move
Re: [arr] CWG anthem of the GOD
and, who is that GOD you are referring to ? AR Rahman ? last time I checked, he is a living human being. On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:50 PM, stharirahman stharirah...@yahoo.co.inwrote: All creatures of GOD are wonderful. There is an proverb in tamilnadu 'Donkey does not know camphor's smell' but we know our god's gifts - the every songs are always great. his efforts to complete a composition are wellknown. -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
[arr] Re: WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN
We are with you rahman sir. The media and haters can go to hell. You're above criticism and controversy. And this turmoil phase will also pass away, cause true talent and honesty always prevail. Love is the answer that's what ARR said. Jai ho!! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, rajesh_36eee rajesh_36...@... wrote: As A R Rahman asked media to project 'positive image' of Common Wealth Games.Then media turned against him and they are now portaying his negative image now.They just want some big newsif they don't find any then they will for anything/anyone any try to make news out of it.remember the mumbai blasts..how they indirectly helpled in guiding them.they just need some news and coming to politicians, they had planned it that they would make use of it by disliking the song song just to divert the attention of people from the ACTUAL WORK.ACTUAL EVENT..that REALLY MATTERS .and we as a fans are responsible for all these..the media is watching our group/forum..which is the core source to everything they are getting.we as a fans need to stop all this. A R Rahman needs our support more than ever this time..we need to support him.we need to hate media.If you are truly A R Rahman's ..support him by just replying to this messageYES WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN. Hope you Are understanding what I am saying..and please stop sending negative messages Moderators we need your help please filter the negative messages. Just listen to the track 'The Power of Politics'a BGM from Iruvar/Iddaru..its awsome...this BGM perfectly fits the present situation.
[arr] Re: WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN
My loyalty to ARR and his music will never changeno matter what happens...never. Once for ARR...Always for ARR! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, rajesh_36eee rajesh_36...@... wrote: As A R Rahman asked media to project 'positive image' of Common Wealth Games.Then media turned against him and they are now portaying his negative image now.They just want some big newsif they don't find any then they will for anything/anyone any try to make news out of it.remember the mumbai blasts..how they indirectly helpled in guiding them.they just need some news and coming to politicians, they had planned it that they would make use of it by disliking the song song just to divert the attention of people from the ACTUAL WORK.ACTUAL EVENT..that REALLY MATTERS .and we as a fans are responsible for all these..the media is watching our group/forum..which is the core source to everything they are getting.we as a fans need to stop all this. A R Rahman needs our support more than ever this time..we need to support him.we need to hate media.If you are truly A R Rahman's ..support him by just replying to this messageYES WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN. Hope you Are understanding what I am saying..and please stop sending negative messages Moderators we need your help please filter the negative messages. Just listen to the track 'The Power of Politics'a BGM from Iruvar/Iddaru..its awsome...this BGM perfectly fits the present situation.
[arr] Re: CWG anthem of the GOD
I totally agree with you. Love you rahman sir, we'll be beside you till death --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, stharirahman stharirah...@... wrote: All creatures of GOD are wonderful. There is an proverb in tamilnadu 'Donkey does not know camphor's smell' but we know our god's gifts - the every songs are always great. his efforts to complete a composition are wellknown.
[arr] Re: Is ARR a God or a super power human?
A rose by any other name would smell just as sweet. Likewise, you portray the same message in all your mails regardless of the words used. Why does anyone have to compare ARR's work with Thiruda Thiruda? Why can't Thiruda Thiruda and his other releases be enjoyed in their own merits without being compared to one another? Whether you use comparative or innovative equivalent, the message remains the same-you want an album in the range of Thiruda Thiruda. If you don't mean that, then kindly refrain from bringing up Thiruda Thiruda in all your mails. There's simply no point in keep asking others to interpret your post correctly when your contents never changes anyway. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kishore parayath kishore.paray...@... wrote: Who wants ARR to score THIRUDA Thiruda for every album of his?? No one wants him to do so. Please try to correctly interpret posts here. While making comparisons with Thiruda Thiruda here... we dont want him to repeat thiruda thriuda. We want him to give 'Innovative Equivalents' to thiruda thiruda. Please quote that phrase. For example, Rangeela is a Kadhalan etc are completely different from thiruda thiruda. But Rangeela is an innovative equivalent to thiruda thiruda, eventhough it has no relation to thiruda thiruda. We want innovative equivalents... Not repeats. I have posted this a hundred times in this groups. Many have not understood. Iam sure, again after 6 weeks, another post will come saying that some people want ARR to repeat thiruda thiruda in every work of his. On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Kalyan K kalyan...@... wrote: Perfect Write-Up Kalyan K. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 3:41 PM, live for arr Live livefor...@...wrote: No. he is a normal human being like us. he has got that extra god given talent called music with which he pleases millions of people around the world. Every human being is capable of making mistakes, cannot do every time the right thing. So, I request the fans to understand that he cannot produce music which will satisy ur ears every time u hear it. there are lots of generes in music in the world. every person who hears cannot like all the generes. So, hear only what u like. ARR cannot score music for the vieweres which he/she likes. He scores the music 4 a films based on the situation which the director gives. He cannot score a Thiruda thiruda for every album. If he scores Thiruda thiruda for every album, thn what will the fan say ARR is become repetitive. The scores sounds like Thiruda thiruda only, u would have not got a Bombay, Dilse, Taal, Jodha Akabar etc. Please understand this basic thing before writing some thing.
[arr] Re: ARR T Shirts - New Print
I need the T-Shirt... Tell me the details... Cost... How to get it from u.. I am from Chennai Only --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur vith...@... wrote: A.R.R. T Shirts available with me for sale. Proceeds go for a noble cause. At present , for people within India. Those interested, pls mail me ur details. People from Chennai can collect it in person from me. People from other parts of India, can mail me ur details. -- regards, Vithur
[arr] Re: Will the CWG song be re-done now?
He said we would do something beyond Waka Waka. I think he meant something different but his choice of word can be easily interpreted as surpass. I was surprised by his response initially. But having seen and heard almost every AR interview in the last 10 -12 years, i just ignored it as inappropriate choice of word. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Niven niven...@... wrote: which he had famously claimed his tune would surpass??? Did Rahman mention this? I am very doubtful!!! Niven --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Aakarsh aakarsh_vk@ wrote: http://movies.indiatimes.com/News-Gossip/News/AR-Rahmans-theme-track-for-CWG-rejected/articleshow/6472955.cms Regards Aakarsh
Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take
if we approach things with pre-conceived notion, nothing can change the mindset. I truly agree with this. I don't think people were expecting a Waka Waka or a Maa Tujhe Saalam or even a Maro Maro from ARR. If yes, then all these ideas would have been expressed to him during composition process itself and not now, when the track has been released. The problem is that everything has become very political and competitive now. It's no longer about hosting CWG, it's about hosting a better CWG than Beijing's Olympics! Why Beijing's Olympics? Because it was a huge hit! If China can do it, then we can do better! When ARR was requested to compose the CWG theme, there wasn't any talks about comparison with any other themes whatsoever. But now that Waka Waka is a huge hit, all of a sudden, we want ARR to compose something better than Waka Waka. If Shakira can do it, why not ARR? Yes, Shakira could do it, because she didn't have the pressure of being constantly compared to every Tom, Dick and Harry. No ministers approved of her song and then turn around saying that they were disappointed with the same. People just enjoyed the song for what it is and it became a huge hit! In my humble opinion, we have just forgotten where our priorities lie. Hosting a CWG is not only a huge responsibility but it's also a great privilege. There is no need to compare ourselves with our counterparts and go around bragging that we'll do better than them. Instead, if we just concentrate on hosting a good games in the manner we know best, I'm pretty sure people will start to appreciate them as well. --- On Wed, 9/1/10, wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in wrote: From: wiredbeats wiredbe...@yahoo.co.in Subject: [arr] CWG track..heres my take To: rahman fans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 12:42 AM Few years back, i was in a gathering where people were sayin AR Rahman is spoiling the present music scene with 'computer music' and all his songs sound same with 'western beats' and no proper pronunciation. I ignored it and later played this track called Poo Kodiyin Punnagai from Iruvar. They all said look at those days music..what melody and each word is so clear and soft to ears...these days rahman and other can't even imaging to compose music like this! to this i replied ... This track is by AR Rahman ..from Iruvar.. .. they were just dump struck and chewed their own words.. ( for those of you unaware, this track sounds very retro like those in Black and White days..killer track!!) So the point is, if we approach things with pre-conceived notion, nothing can change the mindset. Commonwealth games has a not lot negative air now. What with scams, incomplete works and New Delhi dug up...people are not happy. One theme song can't improve things and it will succumb to pressures. Even if Rahman would have composed a fast track like Waka Waka, Maro Maro ( Boys)...people would have said the same. We are dealing with politicians here...remember! So chill. regards Please donate to my foundation : http://www.cradleindia.org Remixes I Originals I Opinions at http://www.wiredbeats.com
Re: [arr] Food for thought from ARR Sir: Lets Start September with SOME Positiveness. :-)
Great post Manisha. Relief among boring CWG posts. Thanks again. Btw,In which interview he said ' I am inspired by beethovan,mozart,bach.. ' ( point 2 ). If you have the link please share. thanks. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur vith...@... wrote: Wonderful wonderful Wonderful Very good post Manisha. Thanks for this. Lets all dive deep into this post and observe the essence On 9/1/10, manisha madhavan manisha_madha...@... wrote: Just thought would post 5 interesting quotes by Rahman Sir that have caught my attention. I know there is an ocean of others, but felt these were the most relevant at the moment. :) Feel free to add your different 5. 1. There is a story of Michelangelo -- if I am not wrong -- which I heard recently. It seems that he was painting beautiful pictures at the back of the church. People told him you are a fool because you are not painting in the front where people can appreciate your work. The answer was: I do my work for God. I think he can watch it anywhere. I thought it was a brilliant answer because everything doesn't need to have instant appreciation. Even if one of you have appreciated those fine nuances, that is enough for me. 2. No one can be completely original, because the notes are already there. I do a lot of fusion from different traditions including Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, reggae, rock and Carnatic music my favourites. As far as possible, i try to be original. The rest is up to Allah. 3. We have to push ourselves in any field, whether we like it or not. It is just the question of your mindset. We need to adjust and look into our own selves. The moment you have this attitude that whatever you do is the best, you will cease to grow or for that matter experiment, which is very necessary for creation. I mainly work by instinct. 4. Any great love song, when attributed to a divine source, gets an extra dimension People say any love that is immortal is divine love The inspiration, therefore, is a divine one.. 5. I also believe in karma. When you do good and think good, there're bound to be good things happening in your life too. The good wishes you earn in this lifetime are the real awards. Good work may or may not get you the awards, but you will always reap the benefits of good wishes, that's the real Reward! Have a great month all :) ManishaM -- regards, Vithur
Re: [arr] I truly do not believe most people endorse the following statement:
As per his music taste its mediocre. Would you be coming up with 'Who are we to say..' had he said all his works are path breaking and music redefining? Btw, I liked Ghajini. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_c...@... wrote: When liking a music depends on one's taste and interest, who are we to judge what is mediocre and what is not? --- On Sun, 8/29/10, kishore parayath kishore.paray...@... wrote: From: kishore parayath kishore.paray...@... Subject: Re: [arr] I truly do not believe most people endorse the following statement: To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 9:25 PM  Well... Where did this image come from?? His current image is only because of the terrific pathbreaking works of his past. It did not suddenly come up, one fine morning. It is not justice to say that Rahman's image made ppl like his works. Infact, the present situation is similar to that. Due to Rahman's pathbreaking accomplishments of the past, today, there are people to praise any mediocre or below average work from him (Eg: Ghajini), and bash other sincere Rahmaniacs who dislike the same.  Anyway, what ARR today, is ONLY because of his hardwork and pathbreaking accomplishments.  On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:03 AM, AJ purev...@... wrote:  This statement is coming from that Weaka Weaka article, which to me sounded extremely biased. Avid music buffs too felt that it was Rahman's image that made people like whatever he composed rather than the music. A minority may think this, but I truly do not think the majority of true music lovers out there think this is true. Yes, Rahman has an image and a brand name, but people can discern quality too and are not that dumb to just go by someone's name when it comes to appreciating good music. Because Rahman's music is often so original and unconventional, it does take time for the music to sink in, th This is scientifically proven in psychology that when a complex, unfamiliar, and unknown stimulus is encountered, the mind has to accommodate (change) rather than assimilate (easily absorb)...which is why repeated exposure is necessary for Rahman's music, which is often complex, unfamiliar, and unknown due to the high originality and innovativeness factors. Brand Rahman exists, yes, but Quality Rahman is still there and still strong according to most. How do I know? A in my family , who have been skeptical of Rahman's music in the past, are head over heels with Raavan's music. They are not the type to just like something just because it has Rahman attached to it. They are critical music lovers who are skeptical of today's music. If they like a Rahman album or song and which validates my opinion (my opinion is not dependent on anyone's by the way), I know Rahman has scored big time.
Re: [arr] rahman sir stop composing for indian films and themes these guys forgotten u
Chill guys..AR has seen even more harsher critics.I want AR to work on the projects he likes and gets inspired the most irrespective of whether its Government, Private, Government aided and anything else. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Chris Raj chris78_...@... wrote: My thoughts on the controversies.. 1. ARR should stop working on Govt projects which involves political influences and avoid working with people who doesnt have musical taste and knowledge as CWG board. 2. concentrate only on west and hollywood movies and gain more oscars and beome more popular ICON on hollywood... 3. No Indian assignments for another few years and surely people would come beyond ARR for great music Raj From: Kalimuthu kalimu...@... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, September 1, 2010 9:23:00 PM Subject: Re: [arr] rahman sir stop composing for indian films and themes these guys forgotten u Yes, they do. If he gives another hit (does not mean that this is a flop) or gets another international award, people will forget this controversy too. :-) So, there's no need to leave India. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:30 PM, prasad s prasad_s...@... wrote: sir indians have a nature to forget everything easily. sir dont compose music for india. go abroad do only hollywood movies and albums, thats enough. --- On Mon, 30/8/10, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... wrote: From: Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... Subject: [arr] Jai Ho pulse missing from Rahman's Games Hey-O To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 30 August, 2010, 5:37 AM http://epaper.mailtoday.in/3082010/epaperimages/3082010/3082010-md-hr-19/124848578.jpg -- Sent from 127.0.0.1
[arr] Re: CWG anthem of the GOD
Correctly sed man!!! taste ey illathavanugal!! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, stharirahman stharirah...@... wrote: All creatures of GOD are wonderful. There is an proverb in tamilnadu 'Donkey does not know camphor's smell' but we know our god's gifts - the every songs are always great. his efforts to complete a composition are wellknown.
Re: [arr] Re: CWG Song is thumping and inspiring!!
Haha, didn't realize that you can interpret the sentence the other way around as well. Thanks for pointing it out. I'll be extra clear with my words from now on ;)) --- On Tue, 8/31/10, Elanchezhian elan_rahman_ka...@yahoo.in wrote: From: Elanchezhian elan_rahman_ka...@yahoo.in Subject: [arr] Re: CWG Song is thumping and inspiring!! To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 9:03 PM There are a number of ARR's songs which tend to take time to grown on you, but this one is an exception, at least for me Phew!!, i missed a heart beat when i read this sentence...I thought you were about to say that the song didn't grow upon you:) The next sentence made my daylol... --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_c...@... wrote: There are a number of ARR's songs which tend to take time to grown on you, but this one is an exception, at least for me. I just fell in love with the song the moment I first heard it. It has a great blend of carribean, western and Indian music. The increase of tempo was done gradually and tastefully, with the highest tempo saved for the last few seconds. It was absolutely delighful to hear the number! This brings me to the two questions that was running through my mind while reading the criritcms on the song. 1) Wasn't this song inspiring and passionate? I personally felt it was the right song for Commonwealth- in fact, I even feel like participating in the games after listening to the number. It has the right tempo, the right punch, the right feel that you would want to hear from a sports theme song, doesn't it? Someone once said that ARR would have composed a better song if only he was given more time. I disagree. I always believed that ARR gives his best regardless of how long/short the time given to him. And this time too, I believe that ARR has given his best-the song is superb! 2) Comparison with Waka Waka First of all let me confess, I love waka waka but I still don't understand why anyone wants to compare waka waka with CWG theme. In fact, I don't know why the topic of comparison only arise when ARR composes a number. I don't think anyone would have compared Shakira with Anastacia's Boom or Ricky Martin's The Cup of Life -and Martin's song was a huge hit when it was released! Personally, I don't know what people were expecting? Are they genuinely looking for ARR to pull of a Waka Waka? Or even a Maa Tujhe Salam? Someone here mentioned that they were hoping for a number in the lines of Maro Maro. I'm seriously glad ARR hasn't done any of that. CWG is wonderful and fresh as it is. Then again, I also don't think waka waka was cheesy or that Shakira would be finished if ARR had pulled a better number. In fact, I felt so offended when such comments are passed on Shakira and her song. When are we going to stop putting other artists down in order to praise ARR? Doesn't ARR's work speaks for themselves? --- On Tue, 8/31/10, Arr Fan arr...@... wrote: From: Arr Fan arr...@... Subject: Re: [arr] CWG Song is thumping and inspiring!! To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 1:34 PM Â Slow poison it is... the song is really good. From: Gomzyâ„¢ gomtesh.upad...@... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 6:12:20 AM Subject: Re: [arr] CWG Song is thumping and inspiring!! Â Did you guys observe the sound quality ? I mean the engineering. It has been better than endhiran and puli. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Suresh Jayakumar suresh6...@... wrote: Â The song has all the ingredients of a slow poison, in a good sense.So far I am liking it. Ppl are comparing this one to waka waka which was more cheesey !ARR is beyond such cheesy stuff... I like to listen ARR music in my MEElectronics M6 earphone..it's really punchy and fun.. Especially endhiran songs.. Â Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Thulasi Ram karoke...@... wrote: Â after trying various earphones, i finally narrowed down at Altec Lansing and started using it from puli. CWG song sounds exceptional. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Madhavan Rajan rsamadhu2...@... wrote: Â Believe it or not!! I just got an opportunity to listen to the song using my Bose headphones, though I listened to the song earlier in some cheap speakers...I must say it gave me goosebumps throughout the song...The vocals
[arr] Re: ARR- We All Fans are With You
I am with AR as well. Please convey to AR that his fans are with him. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, nandatronics nandatron...@... wrote: Hi All, I wish and I desperately want to meet ARR and say to him that we all fans are with him. I request Gopal/ Vijay or some one close to ARR to convey that we are liking his CWG anthem and we are with him. I myself not able to resist from the kind of comments and thrashing the media and politicians are doing for the CWG and I don't know how ARR is feeling about all these. I also felt that ARR should never accept any requests especially if politicians are involved but what else he could have done, even if he had refused to compose the song earlier, all these politicians/ media and other music composers wud have commented that after after Oscars ARR has got some head weight and hence refused to compose for CWG and they wud have made it the headlines everywhere. As our media and politicians are know for the blame game. Even God cannot satisfy all humans So I request ARR not to get affected due to these negative comments and allow his creative mind peace to be disturbed. ARR We All Love You, We Know Your Worth, Quality, Originality, Hard Work and We Love your CWG theme as well. Good Job Keep Going.
Re: [arr] CWG Song is thumping and inspiring!!
The song has all the ingredients of a slow poison, in a good sense. So far I am liking it. Ppl are comparing this one to waka waka which was more cheesey ! ARR is beyond such cheesy stuff... I like to listen ARR music in my MEElectronics M6 earphone..it's really punchy and fun.. Especially endhiran songs.. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Thulasi Ram karoke...@gmail.com wrote: after trying various earphones, i finally narrowed down at Altec Lansing and started using it from puli. CWG song sounds exceptional. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Madhavan Rajan rsamadhu2...@gmail.com wrote: Believe it or not!! I just got an opportunity to listen to the song using my Bose headphones, though I listened to the song earlier in some cheap speakers...I must say it gave me goosebumps throughout the song...The vocals are very crisp and AR has rendered it perfectly...The pallavi was accompanied by very pleasant humming...Now comes the strumming guitar with the claps and the killer beat that is just too good to set the mood of the theme song...When he sings the charanam parts, he sets the mood like go-get-it with confidence...The rap bit suits the mood well without altering the tempo of the song...Loved the Sitar and the Shakers that travels ear to ear...The ending is a perfect crowd-puller, more of a celebration with the funky drum beats; if you notice clearly, the pattern and the tempo of the beats vary throughout the ending, just perfect, and not like a regular dabbankuthu...Before criticising, Let's go and listen to it again :-) -- Cheers, Madhavan.R Be a Music Fan; not a Music Pirate!
Re: [arr] Re: CWG - welcome song from Kerala (Music - Alphons)
Great song... I really enjoyed listening. Thanks a lot Mr Alphons.. The beats fusion is really nice Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2010, at 8:24 PM, raj arr_naga...@yahoo.com wrote: Superb sir..Your fan club is increasing :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Alphons Joseph alpho...@... wrote: Just go to the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mp_I5TyKgE Music : Alphons Lyrics : B.R Prasad Singer : Shankar Mahadevan Rap by : Geethu Give me your valuable feedbacks. Regards. ALPHONS JOSEPH MUSIC DIRECTOR 3E, INFRA HILLOCK Phase III Changampuzha Nagar South Kalamassery Cochin-33
Re: [arr] ARR T Shirts - New Print
Hi Vithur , please book one for me :) , Please tell me the cost other details . thanking you ,sachin 09822235091 --- On Mon, 30/8/10, Vithur vith...@gmail.com wrote: From: Vithur vith...@gmail.com Subject: [arr] ARR T Shirts - New Print To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 30 August, 2010, 3:24 PM A.R.R. T Shirts available with me for sale. Proceeds go for a noble cause. At present , for people within India. Those interested, pls mail me ur details. People from Chennai can collect it in person from me. People from other parts of India, can mail me ur details. -- regards, Vithur
Re: [arr] Jai Ho pulse missing from Rahman's Games Hey-O
The video is on its way...that should change everyone's opinion about this song.. From: Bergin Roy ber...@berginroy.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, August 30, 2010 10:33:21 AM Subject: Re: [arr] Jai Ho pulse missing from Rahman's Games Hey-O Really disappointed with the reviews in the media coming out in a hurry... wait until its performed in the event and then criticize.. On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.com wrote: http://epaper.mailtoday.in/3082010/epaperimages/3082010/3082010-md-hr-19/124848578.jpg -- www.berginroy.com
[arr]
http://twitter.com/SarkarSaj/status/22602078214
[arr] top 10 songs from arr's own voice
3 days back I was on a train journey during a night...I had my iPOD and headphones and decided to try those songs that were sung only by ARR rahmanMan what a night it wasunforgettable tunes and great arrangements...to top it all it was the voice that was the signature of these songsGive it a try. My rankings of the top 10 songs would be: 1)New York Nagaram 2)Vellai Pookal 3)Tere Bina 4)Dil Se Re 5)Ye Jo Desh 6)Khwaja Mere 7)Humma Humma 8)Vande Mataram 9)Meherbaan 10)Rehna Tu Each song displays emotion in voice that only ARR can bring in front of the mic!
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Epic! Made my day :D -Moin Ali From: Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 6:52:12 PM Subject: [arr] http://twitter.com/SarkarSaj/status/22602078214
[arr] CWG WILL ROCK!
The song is going to rock and i am very happy that there are so much of critics. I have always seen this happening, a song being hated by so many people especially when its done by ARR rocks the charts and stays with us for a long time. Also all the people who are criticizing the songs, should go back and analyze. Good example is JAI HO This song will go places and no doubt about it. Than you SIR ARR.
[arr] A.R.Rahman @ Soundbox Magazine
Full Magazine http://www.evadowd.com/soundbox1.pdf *Download only ARR related pages in a PDF file* http://www.mediafire.com/?dy8ft8yrpzfyyq8 Music lovers should go for the full magazine !! Recommended from my side ! -- *- Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~*
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hahahaha :) VERY VERY TRUE I'm sure AR will dust off these comments and be moving forward. Bergin On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.comwrote: http://twitter.com/SarkarSaj/status/22602078214 -- www.berginroy.com
[arr] Govt doesn`t like CWG theme song
http://www.zeenews.com/video/showvideo7970.html
[arr] CWG song waka waka
I will try to be very honest in my views. As been one of the biggest fans of ARR since years I m extremly disappointed with the song. Its not bad but its not even close to the capability of ARR n his name in the music world, he should, he could, he would have done much much better than this. The things went wrong in cwg song according to me r, 1. When some media guy asked him is it like waka waka ? ARR responded to that we tried to go beyond than waka waka or some thing like that he replied. With this reply of ARR people started to expect the song better than chaiyyan chiyaan or maa tujhe salaam, he shouldn't have said that but insted he should have said no its not like waka waka its different from that. He also said that i m working on it since 6 months. When he can deliver the whole sound track like slumdog millionaire within 21 days its but natural that people will expect him to give 100 times better a single song than the songs of sdm. 2. I loved waka waka song. Waka waka's tune was simple but melodious. Song was catchy, peppy, groovy easy to sing, easy to tap one's feet on it, superb video n shakira's charm. 3. ARR's music n compositions r difficult to understand for many people, it takes time to grow, though many people cant understand his music even afer 100 times listen. 4. ARR's movies n private albums not ment for whole india but for arr's fans n those people who can understand music very wel. Cwg song is for whole india n every1 wants to be it like their taste. We (arr fans) care a damn when others dont like his music for movies or private album's, but this time the case is different because he was suppose to give a song which can easily sung by every indian n loved by every1 (he tried to do so) but he couldn't reach his goal. 5. This kind of phase which arr is going through is not first time it has happened before also when people tried to demoralise him n tried very hard to lower his popularity, but by the grace of Almighty he only climed higher n higher. This phase is worst. But whenever that happened when his work was critisized at the extreme level he came with a BANG and silented all his critics. First, at the time of Daud n other movies of his at that time, he came with Taal etc., second time at the time of Bose-the forgetton hero n movies of his at that time, he came with RDB. ARR n Sachin Tendulkar r alike, whenever people say sachin is finish now, he hits a century, whenever people stared saying arr is gonna be a history now he came with the best music anyone can give in the world. This is the same kind of phase from which arr is going through right now, but i m very much sure that sooner or later he will make every1 silent once again inshaAllah taala. with best regards, Shehzad.
Re: [arr] Re: CWG Theme song is just superb... :-)
Just awesome. I’m keep on listening. All TV channel should play this song, imagine the song is sung by the crowd in stadium, it will be mind blowing……. M.KALIDASAN The Rahman Lover --- On Mon, 30/8/10, Ram Motipally mramvina...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Ram Motipally mramvina...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [arr] Re: CWG Theme song is just superb... :-) To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 30 August, 2010, 7:54 PM I am just loving AR's vocals...there is something different...cant figure out what ...any one with any clues..let me know From: Nachiketha nachiketha...@yahoo.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, August 30, 2010 5:54:25 AM Subject: [arr] Re: CWG Theme song is just superb... :-) yes, i liked it a lot --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Arr Fan arr...@... wrote: The song is brilliant. I started loving it after repeated hearing on a headphone. - magic works for me, can't stop playing it again again now!!! From: jarjar jayram...@... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, August 29, 2010 1:28:04 AM Subject: [arr] Re: CWG Theme song is just superb... :-) Takkar Song... As they say in Tamil takkar means superb song. Great beat, melody and superb mix of traditional instruments too. I am sure this is going to rock India for some time... Thanks ARR Sir... Anyone anyone.. please post the translation !! please !!! Jai Ho, Jayram Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? b Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: ad...@arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: arrahmanfans-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links
Re: [arr] CWG - welcome song from Kerala (Music - Alphons)
I liked rahman sir's version very much. It is more international !!! ALPHONS JOSEPH MUSIC DIRECTOR 3E, INFRA HILLOCK Phase III Changampuzha Nagar South Kalamassery Cochin-33 --- On Tue, 31/8/10, Thulasi Ram karoke...@gmail.com wrote: From: Thulasi Ram karoke...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [arr] CWG - welcome song from Kerala (Music - Alphons) To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 31 August, 2010, 1:42 nice one, ji. hope u liked ARRs version. p.s: anytime i hear ur aaromale rendition, i'm mesmerized. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Alphons Joseph alpho...@yahoo.com wrote: Just go to the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mp_I5TyKgE Music : Alphons Lyrics : B.R Prasad Singer : Shankar Mahadevan Rap by : Geethu Give me your valuable feedbacks. Regards. ALPHONS JOSEPH MUSIC DIRECTOR 3E, INFRA HILLOCK Phase III Changampuzha Nagar South Kalamassery Cochin-33
[arr] Welcome song(from Kerala) - CWG - Audio attached [1 Attachment]
Mp3 version attached.. ALPHONS JOSEPH MUSIC DIRECTOR 3E, INFRA HILLOCK Phase III Changampuzha Nagar South Kalamassery Cochin-33
[arr] I love the Sitar interludes in CWG song
I am warming up to this song. I really love the sitar bits and overall fusion. I think my biggest problem initially was with the slower tempo and lack of loopy rhythms, which maybe I expected for a song to convey high energy and spirit. But, hats of to ARR for being creative and thinking differently. I wanted to send a reply message to the CWG and Sitar! thread, but yahoo is not letting me reply to existing threads, only letting me post new messages for now.
Re: [arr] CWG - welcome song from Kerala (Music - Alphons)
Alphons..the song is kickassthe video is terriblethe song deserves much better visuals!! On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 5:25 AM, hibath rahman rahman...@yahoo.com wrote: thumps up bro..kalakki.. Could u just come up with the audio version of d same..? On Mon Aug 30th, 2010 10:58 PM IST Alphons Joseph wrote: Just go to the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mp_I5TyKgE Music : Alphons Lyrics : B.R Prasad Singer : Shankar Mahadevan Rap by : Geethu Give me your valuable feedbacks. Regards. ALPHONS JOSEPH MUSIC DIRECTOR 3E, INFRA HILLOCK Phase III Changampuzha Nagar South Kalamassery Cochin-33 -- www.gomzyphotography.com
Re: [arr] CWG song waka waka
A very sensible argument. I do not see ARR has lost it anywhere in this post. Critics, are you reading ? On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:32 AM, light4_u light...@yahoo.co.in wrote: I will try to be very honest in my views. As been one of the biggest fans of ARR since years I m extremly disappointed with the song. Its not bad but its not even close to the capability of ARR n his name in the music world, he should, he could, he would have done much much better than this. The things went wrong in cwg song according to me r, 1. When some media guy asked him is it like waka waka ? ARR responded to that we tried to go beyond than waka waka or some thing like that he replied. With this reply of ARR people started to expect the song better than chaiyyan chiyaan or maa tujhe salaam, he shouldn't have said that but insted he should have said no its not like waka waka its different from that. He also said that i m working on it since 6 months. When he can deliver the whole sound track like slumdog millionaire within 21 days its but natural that people will expect him to give 100 times better a single song than the songs of sdm. 2. I loved waka waka song. Waka waka's tune was simple but melodious. Song was catchy, peppy, groovy easy to sing, easy to tap one's feet on it, superb video n shakira's charm. 3. ARR's music n compositions r difficult to understand for many people, it takes time to grow, though many people cant understand his music even afer 100 times listen. 4. ARR's movies n private albums not ment for whole india but for arr's fans n those people who can understand music very wel. Cwg song is for whole india n every1 wants to be it like their taste. We (arr fans) care a damn when others dont like his music for movies or private album's, but this time the case is different because he was suppose to give a song which can easily sung by every indian n loved by every1 (he tried to do so) but he couldn't reach his goal. 5. This kind of phase which arr is going through is not first time it has happened before also when people tried to demoralise him n tried very hard to lower his popularity, but by the grace of Almighty he only climed higher n higher. This phase is worst. But whenever that happened when his work was critisized at the extreme level he came with a BANG and silented all his critics. First, at the time of Daud n other movies of his at that time, he came with Taal etc., second time at the time of Bose-the forgetton hero n movies of his at that time, he came with RDB. ARR n Sachin Tendulkar r alike, whenever people say sachin is finish now, he hits a century, whenever people stared saying arr is gonna be a history now he came with the best music anyone can give in the world. This is the same kind of phase from which arr is going through right now, but i m very much sure that sooner or later he will make every1 silent once again inshaAllah taala. with best regards, Shehzad. -- www.gomzyphotography.com
Re: [arr] CWG - welcome song from Kerala (Music - Alphons)
truly nice tune..good arrangements... congrats !!!swaps --- On Tue, 8/31/10, Pramod pramod...@gmail.com wrote: From: Pramod pramod...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [arr] CWG - welcome song from Kerala (Music - Alphons) To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 12:12 AM I'm sorry, I missed one sweet thing. That lovely 'Thana na na...thadhina.' at the start after each 'come out and play'... is simply a delight :) Pramod. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:08 AM, Pramod pramod...@gmail.com wrote: Alphonse sir. I'm speechless at this awesome song... Nice cool, lively and peppy 'Abheri' (hope I am right about the Raga !!!) The 'Come out and play' has mixed with the song and tune so well like sugar in milk :) I just loved that flute (at around 1:41). simply loved it and when the tabla joined the proceedings (at about 1:48) it became ever so beautiful. Outstanding composition sir... excellent work. Love and regards from Pramod. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Alphons Joseph alpho...@yahoo.com wrote: Just go to the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mp_I5TyKgE Music : Alphons Lyrics : B.R Prasad Singer : Shankar Mahadevan Rap by : Geethu Give me your valuable feedbacks. Regards. ALPHONS JOSEPH MUSIC DIRECTOR 3E, INFRA HILLOCK Phase III Changampuzha Nagar South Kalamassery Cochin-33 -- Warm regards, Pramod. -- Warm regards, Pramod.
[arr] Is there a technical problem with replies?
When I try to reply in a thread, there's a message that says, cannot retrieve message such and such number. Anyone else having this problem? About the CWG theme song, I am warming up to it. In my earlier post, I never meant to suggest that ARR only did this because he felt obligated to or was forced to. Obviously, he created what he thought was apt for the theme and mood and I salute him! I was just wondering in general about his emotional investment into the song.not at all meaning to assume anything or cast doubt on his sincerity. I hear the sincerity in this song very much.
Re: [arr] CWG - welcome song from Kerala (Music - Alphons)
Excellent composition!! Reflects every sound from Kerala...Awesome rendition by Shankar Mahadevan... Video transitions are very fast and shaky in many places that's little irritating to the eyes and diverts the listener from enjoying the audio... On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Alphons Joseph alpho...@yahoo.com wrote: Just go to the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mp_I5TyKgE Music : Alphons Lyrics : B.R Prasad Singer : Shankar Mahadevan Rap by : Geethu Give me your valuable feedbacks. Regards. ALPHONS JOSEPH MUSIC DIRECTOR 3E, INFRA HILLOCK Phase III Changampuzha Nagar South Kalamassery Cochin-33 -- Cheers, Madhavan.R Be a Music Fan; not a Music Pirate!
Re: [arr] I love the Sitar interludes in CWG song
Describe how you like this song and the nuances in every website's feedback or comment section that criticizes AR and compares with Shakira as much possible. That's they we can show our live for AR and the song. Bergin On Aug 31, 2010, at 8:42 AM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: I am warming up to this song. I really love the sitar bits and overall fusion. I think my biggest problem initially was with the slower tempo and lack of loopy rhythms, which maybe I expected for a song to convey high energy and spirit. But, hats of to ARR for being creative and thinking differently. I wanted to send a reply message to the CWG and Sitar! thread, but yahoo is not letting me reply to existing threads, only letting me post new messages for now.
[arr] Re: Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ???
Agree! Different versions should be released; perhaps they will be released on a CD (just like 'One Love' in different languages). --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, ::: rahmanian ::: krrajkuma...@... wrote: Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ?? Commonwealth of Nations includes Big members like.. Australia, Bangladesh, Canada, Ghana, Nigeria, South Africa, United Kingdom etc.. Since 2010 CWG event to be held in INDIA, the song was in our National Language.. But even the song should be in English version too.. so that it ll reach all over the world.. i know Music has No Boundary.. but Language has.. So it's better to release in English too.. otherwise there is no meaning of comparing it with 'waka waka'. 00 91 99941 88566 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 00 91 99941 88566 end_of_the_skype_highlighting rahmanian rajkumar http://www.youtube.com/bobyi
Re: [arr] CWG Song is thumping and inspiring!!
Did you guys observe the sound quality ? I mean the engineering. It has been better than endhiran and puli. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Suresh Jayakumar suresh6...@yahoo.comwrote: The song has all the ingredients of a slow poison, in a good sense. So far I am liking it. Ppl are comparing this one to waka waka which was more cheesey ! ARR is beyond such cheesy stuff... I like to listen ARR music in my MEElectronics M6 earphone..it's really punchy and fun.. Especially endhiran songs.. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Thulasi Ram karoke...@gmail.com wrote: after trying various earphones, i finally narrowed down at Altec Lansing and started using it from puli. CWG song sounds exceptional. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Madhavan Rajan rsamadhu2...@gmail.com rsamadhu2...@gmail.com wrote: Believe it or not!! I just got an opportunity to listen to the song using my Bose headphones, though I listened to the song earlier in some cheap speakers...I must say it gave me goosebumps throughout the song...The vocals are very crisp and AR has rendered it perfectly...The pallavi was accompanied by very pleasant humming...Now comes the strumming guitar with the claps and the killer beat that is just too good to set the mood of the theme song...When he sings the charanam parts, he sets the mood like go-get-it with confidence...The rap bit suits the mood well without altering the tempo of the song...Loved the Sitar and the Shakers that travels ear to ear...The ending is a perfect crowd-puller, more of a celebration with the funky drum beats; if you notice clearly, the pattern and the tempo of the beats vary throughout the ending, just perfect, and not like a regular dabbankuthu...Before criticising, Let's go and listen to it again :-) -- Cheers, Madhavan.R Be a Music Fan; not a Music Pirate! -- www.gomzyphotography.com
Re: [arr] leave ARR
RDB got crtical and commercial acclaim with 2 oscar nominations as well. Is it true?? I heard 2 songs were selected in last 63 songs in the Academy Awards Arijit On 31 August 2010 06:36, raj arr_naga...@yahoo.com wrote: Exactly Thulasi.. I still remember how many people said RDB is bad/horrible bla bla.. Somebody said 'Kalyug and few other albums are much much better than RDB'. One more I could recall was 'Luka chuppi is the only saving grace'. Some radio channel gave RDB a ranking of 17 on a top 20 list. All these happened before movie release. After movie release, the songs were a rage and RDB got crtical and commercial acclaim with 2 oscar nominations as well. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Thulasi Ram karoke...@... wrote: it will always happen buddy.. RDB sucks. after delhi 6 release, media said delhi 6 is doesnt compare to the class and beauty of RDB! btw, delhi 6 is a runaway musical hit!! i can a dozen more recent instances like that. recent one being sivaji and enthiran. similar analogy applies. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 2:36 AM, Ram Motipally mramvina...@...wrote: thank god he is not a cricketer, otherwise some people would call for him to retire ! Fascinating how when AR won the oscar, some people said Jai Ho is not his best. Now some people are saying the CWG song does not have the beauty of a Jai Ho ! -- *From:* Farzad Khaleel farsad...@... *To:* arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sun, August 29, 2010 5:03:20 PM *Subject:* Re: [arr] leave ARR Moderator would surely allow you. Keep posting at the time of new releases. Would be handy ;) On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Mohan Devanand sharab...@...wrote: PLEASE for GOD'S sake try to avoid immature,unfair criticism on ARR'S mostly brilliant repertoire till now. To keep on posting only to start a debate or just to seek a few peoples attention ,has become a habit with some so called music lovers.You are entitled to your opinion, you have all the right to express it but ,people who are sane and occupied with some useful work may not have all the time to indulge in such absurd debates. Somebody trying to degrade a splendid musical masterpiece [what ever it is] approved and celebrated by the majority including many noted critics all over the world,only expose themselves as a sick clown. ARR is not a GOD,nor a complete authority in music to turn every attempt of his into gold.Nevertheless ,he has proved time and again as an absolute genius . His work is unarguably a league apart,eminently superior than his counterparts as well as his predecessors.The biggest problem with us is,we tend to pull down a person who is successful beyond a certain extent ,for no reason.If we were to name a few extremely talented persons who have extensive international recognition,in all categories,ARR will be in the fore front.Moreover that list is absolutely short as you can find only a very few in this country.Indians who have achieved tremendously by innovating, recognized by highest forums like NOBEL committee, have been NRI's mostly.This country has little place for real achievers, be it sports or science.A SACHIN or ARR happen very rarely. If you are not satisfied with people like them,fine ,you should be a genius ,so kindly spare them and allow them to stay here and bring more laurels to this country. Please let us not allow ARR to do a PANDIT RAVISHANKER. thank you your's respectfully AN INDIAN FAN PS; hope the moderator allows this . -- Farzad Khaleel www.rahmaniac.com
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lol :)) On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.comwrote: http://twitter.com/SarkarSaj/status/22602078214 -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
Re: [arr] Govt doesn`t like CWG theme song
hmm.. so it has reached that far. if they didn't like the song, then why did they approve ? i seriously hope that he withdraws that song and use it in his album or anywhere else that it will be suitable. it is such a great song and don't deserve to be criticized with such harsh words. i am so worried for his reputation... if this whole thing turn out to be an utter mess, AR will also get the partial blame. people will start remembering him as the person who ruined CWG theme song and will foget everything about oscar and grammy's. I can't believe these people. how difficult is it to work together at least for one event to make it a success rather than making it as a platform to blame one another! this is what I hate the most about our country. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:11 AM, live for arr Live livefor...@yahoo.comwrote: http://www.zeenews.com/video/showvideo7970.html -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
Re: [arr]problems with the CWG song - did ARR feel truly inspired?
i completely disagree. Since i like this like any good ARR song, i believe either you were expecting something else or are trying too hard. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:15 AM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: I really think ARR worked hard on this song, but perhaps worked too hard, if you know what I mean? His best songs are created when they are from his heart more than from his head. Was he really inspired to do a theme song about sports, since I know that ARR was never a passionate sports fan and didn't follow teams much as a youngster? Maa Tujhe Salam and the entire Vande Mataram album was ARR's baby because it was about India as a country..about the 50th anniversary and the whole significance of that. ARR, as a very patriotic citizen, felt very inspired to create a whole album in honor of that. In this case, he was asked to compose this song. Yes, it's a patriotic song too, but not in the same emotional league as Vande Mataram from ARR's perspective. It's not fair to compare Maa Tujhe Salam with this song for these reasons alone IMO. I may be wrong about the above..just speculating here. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Raghu arr_ra...@... wrote: i do not think price tag is any issue here.. 5.5 is not a thing compared to overall some 10,000k + --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, shai nbk4692@ wrote: guys, honestly i love the song but ...i think the main problem and the critcizm that is going on is becoz of the '5.5 cr' price tag ...this alone have increased the expectations to other universe it selfbut i really think that 'maa tujhe salam; is worth more than 10 crore...clearly those who disappointed with the song is expecting another maa tujhe salam which i think is ridiculous...if u really want maa tujhe salam like a song then better play the song itself for the CW why create another one...?inspirational song will inspire u straight away,no need time for it to grow..if it doesnt inspire u nor gives u a spirit ,that means the song have failed for its purpose...for example the K'naan song for the world cup 'Wavin flag'..that song doesnt need time at all...[but if u listen to other K'naan's songs u wont wave ur flag] i seriously dont think shakira's waka waka is anywhere near to this song... but the english rap part in the song is soo flat..but the ending with bangra style was awesome listen to it without thinking it was made for CW..then u will feel it i pity or boss for the critisizm he is facing now shai, * smileys just for fun . -- www.gomzyphotography.com
[arr] the CWG theme is rousing, trilling, spectacular and epic
very eclecticcatchydelivers the goodsall the detractors do is show how many people in India have horrible music taste!...hahaif this were made anywhere else, people would recognize its brilliance
[arr] [Semi-ARR] The Misunderstood Rama
Mani Ratnam's Raavan was all about the statement that maybe there is a Ram in every Raavan and a Raavan in every Ram. This is, by no means, a new thought. It has been contemplated in a lot of movies before Raavan. One half of the statement was made into an entire movie by Subhash Ghai. The crux of Khal Nayak was that there is a Nayak in every Khal Nayak. Mani himself handled the subject in Talapathy, without spelling it out. If you consider Rajini's character the Ram in the movie and Arvind Swamy's character the Raavan, Ram (Rajini) does have a Raavan streak, where he kills people. And Raavan, Arvind Swamy, does have a Ram streak, because of his drive to end crime. If you consider the roles reversed, with Arvind Swamy as Ram and Rajini as Raavan, Ram still has a Raavan streak, because he decides to use an underhanded technique to get rid of Rajini, by allowing Ambrish Puri to try to kill him. And Raavan, Rajini, has a Ram streak because of all the good he does to people around him. So, the concept of a Ram in Raavan, or a Raavan in Ram is nothing new to either Indian Cinema, or to Mani himself. But that doesn't diminish the merits of Raavan by any stretch of imagination. If anything, rather than play it subtly like he did in Talapathy, Mani decided to bring it into sharp focus. If anybody had any doubts about who Mani's protagonist is, they are dispelled by the name of the movie. The moment the movie was named Raavan, all doubts about who's point of view the movie is from are erased. In this scenario, it is only logical that Ram would have a secondary role, even though it is vital to the story. But does Mani deliberately go out of the way to show the Raavan in Ram? Is Ram, or Dev in the movie, short-changed? While I do not know what Mani had in mind, I have formed my own theory on the character of Dev in the movie. The movie wants us to take Dev to be a ruthless cop, with a psychopathic obsession to bring down Bheera. He kills, tortures, lies and hurts anyone and everyone for the one goal of killing Bheera. For just a sampling of his many sins: 1. Torture - he tortures Bheera's brother-in-law for information about Bheera, even when the brother-in-law is on the verge of dying. 2. Lies - he lies to Bheera's brother that he will not harm him. 3. Kills in cold blood - he kills Bheera's brother in cold blood. 4. Uses his wife - he suspects his wife and uses her to get to Bheera. But there is one aspect to all this that people may overlook. In the Ramayana, Rama's first and foremost dharma was to the people of his kingdom. The people's happiness and peace was the utmost to him, even at the cost of everything else. When some people felt that Sita was not pure after Raavana kidnapped her, Rama had her banished to the jungle, because not a single person from his subjects should have an iota of doubt on the king's character. Taking this to Raavan, Dev was, above all else, a police officer - an encounter specialist. He was given a job - to kill Bheera. He made that his only goal. When Bheera kidnaps his wife, his search for Bheera becomes more urgent and intense, but for him the goal was always to kill Bheera. Just as Rama would kill Vali treacherously to get help to find Sita, Dev would do anything in his means to get to Raagini and, in turn, to Bheera. After killing Raavana, Rama tells Sita that he does not respect her because she was with another man for a year. He tells her that she was only instrumental in getting him to do what he was destined to do - kill the greatest and most powerful rakshasa of all time. Sita decides to end her life and jumps into a fire. But her purity is such that the fire has no effect on her. Seeing this, Rama says that he always knew she was pure, but he had to prove it to everyone else, so that no one would have any doubts about her. In Raavan, after Dev finds Raagani, he vows that he will come back, because his real job was to kill Bheera. To do this, he is willing to sacrifice his wife. He puts his duty above even his personal life and happiness. He taunts her with Bheera and threatens her with a polygraph test. Disgusted, hurt, broken and finally defeated, Raagani decided to end her life as she knows it and walks out on Dev. There can be no confusion that the scene where Dev asks her to take a polygraph test is only to instigate her to lead him to Bheera. Yet I have read reviews that state that the scene is so awkward and laughable. Could that mean that the reviewer didn't actually understand the simple fact that it was a deliberate taunt? Or is it that I am interpreting this wrong? The movie shows Bheera's companions as naive people and gives you the impression that they are good people at heart, but the world has made them bad. So when Dev kills them, it shows us more of his Raavan side. But is that really the case? In the Ramayana, when Surpanaka's nose and ears were cut off, she goes to her cousin, who lived in the same jungle that Rama was exiled to and goads him to kill
[arr] ARR AND CWG SONG
CWG is hosted not to promote sports but with the main intention of promoting several persons Swiss accounts further.you (the govt) have not even provided the basic amenities to encourage budding sports people so ,where do you have world class atheletes here, fit to compete in the international arena. OK we shall leave it at that and regarding ARR's theme song considered to be mediocre , let me make it very clear that ARR was asked to do it hoping to add some crediblity for this tainted exercise . I believe the purpose is more than achieved and the money spent is worth every penny.Only ARR can command so much of attention for a song and not any Tom Dick or Harry who are producing cacophony in the name of music. So folks why bother about some persons with zero crediblity. RELAX an Indian ARR fan RELAX!
Re: [arr] CWG - welcome song from Kerala (Music - Alphons)
Alphonse sir has always been awesome. His trademark gospel style tunes, with stylish feel...and Stephen Devassy's AWESOME programming !!
[arr]Criticism about CWG theme
Hi, Regardless of CWG theme song, just i want to share my thought. See the creation of god. Even he didnt create all living beings without defect. There are some physically challenged people. Then how the people can expect all songs from rahman to be a masterpiece. But it doesnt meant that he lost his creativity. Also we cannot put Dil se song to Enthiran film. The music should synchronise the given situation and emotion. Rahman is a legend in bringing the music for the given situation. May be he is not familiar with sports. Please leave him some space. I am feeling very sorry for the criticisms about CWG theme song. Thanks R KARTHIK Rahmaniac.
[arr] ENDHIRAN IS A MINDBLOWING ALBUM
Hi Guys, Iam writing this after listening to this album for a month. This is a treasure to keep. And one of ARR's best. Everytime i keep the lyrics and listen to the album it gets better and find something new to cherish. Hats off to ARR. Music has no boundries, and this album proves it. Iam thoroughly enjoying every moment of it. Cool Jon
[arr] Re: CWG song waka waka
i thought this was a honest review yes...I think the song could have been lot more catchy to connect to the masses and make them sing along!!! now it looks lot more challenging to grasp the song! But I must say Bose the forgotton hero remain one of his best to me till date :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, light4_u light...@... wrote: I will try to be very honest in my views. As been one of the biggest fans of ARR since years I m extremly disappointed with the song. Its not bad but its not even close to the capability of ARR n his name in the music world, he should, he could, he would have done much much better than this. The things went wrong in cwg song according to me r, 1. When some media guy asked him is it like waka waka ? ARR responded to that we tried to go beyond than waka waka or some thing like that he replied. With this reply of ARR people started to expect the song better than chaiyyan chiyaan or maa tujhe salaam, he shouldn't have said that but insted he should have said no its not like waka waka its different from that. He also said that i m working on it since 6 months. When he can deliver the whole sound track like slumdog millionaire within 21 days its but natural that people will expect him to give 100 times better a single song than the songs of sdm. 2. I loved waka waka song. Waka waka's tune was simple but melodious. Song was catchy, peppy, groovy easy to sing, easy to tap one's feet on it, superb video n shakira's charm. 3. ARR's music n compositions r difficult to understand for many people, it takes time to grow, though many people cant understand his music even afer 100 times listen. 4. ARR's movies n private albums not ment for whole india but for arr's fans n those people who can understand music very wel. Cwg song is for whole india n every1 wants to be it like their taste. We (arr fans) care a damn when others dont like his music for movies or private album's, but this time the case is different because he was suppose to give a song which can easily sung by every indian n loved by every1 (he tried to do so) but he couldn't reach his goal. 5. This kind of phase which arr is going through is not first time it has happened before also when people tried to demoralise him n tried very hard to lower his popularity, but by the grace of Almighty he only climed higher n higher. This phase is worst. But whenever that happened when his work was critisized at the extreme level he came with a BANG and silented all his critics. First, at the time of Daud n other movies of his at that time, he came with Taal etc., second time at the time of Bose-the forgetton hero n movies of his at that time, he came with RDB. ARR n Sachin Tendulkar r alike, whenever people say sachin is finish now, he hits a century, whenever people stared saying arr is gonna be a history now he came with the best music anyone can give in the world. This is the same kind of phase from which arr is going through right now, but i m very much sure that sooner or later he will make every1 silent once again inshaAllah taala. with best regards, Shehzad.
[arr] Re: Roja..........still sounds amazing........and my take on general trends....
Great reading AJ! i tend to agree that the breathing space in songs is a little less nowadays...Also simple and catchy melody/tune is losing prominence to probably complicated song structure making it difficult to hum or remember the tunesCan anyone suggest why this is happening??...is this intended to be his signature or is Rahman just pushing himself too hard and experimenting to create a whole new dimension in global music... But I am not saying his complex tunes are not good in quality...they are absolutely marvellous in quality and making one introspect his music much more...and making us think a lot! Some of his best melodies are simple tune with minimal arrangements...Listen to the following to to understand what I am trying to say!This is a random list that came to my mind :) 1)En Mel Vizhundha 2)Athankarai Marame 3)Uyirum neeye 4)Kaiyil Midhakum 5)Rasaathi 6)Kannukku Mai Azhagu 7)Narumugaiye 8)Porale Ponnuthayi (Sad) 9)Azhage Sugama 10)Nila Kaigiradhu --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purev...@... wrote: Can't believe it...heard Roja today after ages and the sounds are still so clean, fresh, and breezy...not sounding that outdated at all, despite it being 18 years old. Amazing compositions for ARR's debut..melodious, sweet, earthy, straight to the heart. If there was one thing that I liked about ARR of the 90s that I don't hear much of these days is that ARR's songs back then had a lot more breathing room...there was more space in the songs and the song arrangements were not as dense as they are today. The songs just breathed easier back then it seems, if I were to make a very broad and general comparison to today's songs. ARR also used minimal loops and more spacious arrangements, so you could hear more of silence in the slower compositions. Tu Hi Re is a great example of that. I hope you understand what I mean. Again, these are just observations of mine. I like his past songs equally to his current songs in general, but there are some broad differences, signifying Rahman's evolution as an artist and adding and subtracting elements of his compositional style and sound over time. I am just bowled over how NONE of his songs from the 1990s sound outdated whatsoever even today. That says volumes. One more thing..songs in those days...1990s to early 2000s in general were more Indian soundingnot just with ARR, but with other MDs too. The trend in bollywood and perhaps other industries too is to have more Western and global musical styles in film music with gradual shifting away from the ethnic Indian flavor of songs.not completely, but the trend is there. ARR too used to have more ethnic Indian sounding albums back then, even for contemporary films like Saathiya, Taal, Dil Se that were not period films. Later, the Ethnic Indian sound would be confined mostly to period film scores or situational numbers, but with some exceptions. Delhi 6, Raavan, and Jodha Akbar are the 3 most Indian sounding albums recently and look how beautifully all 3 music albums were received and raved about. I think a lot of people are missing more of the Indian Rahman. Rahman's music over time has become more international and less Indian as a general trendagain with exceptions here and there.
Re: [arr]
Who is Sajid Patel? The search is more important than the destination - a r rahman - From: Bergin Roy ber...@berginroy.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 31 August, 2010 7:40:12 PM Subject: Re: [arr] hahahaha :) VERY VERY TRUE I'm sure AR will dust off these comments and be moving forward. Bergin On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.com wrote: http://twitter.com/SarkarSaj/status/22602078214 -- www.berginroy.com
Re: [arr] If expectations often lead to disappointments, then whyhave expectations in the first place?
Well said Rajib, These people don't even like our version of explaining how they became going on blaming, blashing or unknowingly discouraging real Rahmaniacs and our Own Indian International Talent ARR and such people. I feel low and very sad seeing such mails but I know I can't stop such baseless criticism and jealous filled comments in this group which continuously running after Oscars Particularly. More over these people will get ready to fight on us through tones of RIGHT TO EXPRESS kinda mails which gives more space for them to talk more rubbish. That's why I don't react to any of such mails though I am a member since years in this group. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Tata Indicom -Original Message- From: A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@gmail.com Sender: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 21:32:37 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [arr] If expectations often lead to disappointments, then why have expectations in the first place? Seriously i never had any expectations on any of the ARR releases !! I just know the plot of film..and think if i was the director/composer of the film what kinda music i would add to this kinda film !! and nothing else !! it's such a natural process for me ..may be that is why i am loving every ARR release to the core !! Dont know if i am the only one here ! Many says Ghajni wasnt good enough ,think about having any other songs(of your choice) in Ghajni ..it wont match with the film !! Music is for the film , Film is not for the music ! Same rule applies for whatever the reason u r giving on NOT liking one album/song !! It wasnt there for anyone to like it !! it was put there to uplift the story of the film !! if someone likes it ,that's extra !! Let's not comment about those people who got a limited music sense !! Like of Mr. Manna dey said How can u sing a patriotic song in that high note , what kinda singing is this ? ( on commenting about Vande mataram) .. In an recent interview he went on to say Nowadays we cant tell who is the singer of any songs like old days .. LOL .. seriously these kinda people also exists !! but the sad part is, even some Young people acting like these older,Wiser people !! if you think an ARR album is mediocre when everybody else is liking the album very much , then i think it's high time you should start composing an album better than that of ARR ! But ofcourse you have the right to express yourselves.But therez always a thing called misusing things !! Dont try to be over-smart by bashing ARR songs just to gain LOT of attention..U r just damaging ur own image ( if u atleast have any). Anyway loving every bit of the CWG theme !! and on the way to create a mix of some of my fav ARR BGMs and songs !! :-) ( Sorry if i went bit off-topic here , i couldnt control myself after seeing some childish behavior of some users here ) On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Neevan vyrus_...@yahoo.com wrote: -- *- Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~*
Re: [arr] Welcome song(from Kerala) - CWG - Audio attached
Sir, I was just about to request you for an mp3 version and there you are Just in time I'm loving this song... You rock :-) On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Alphons Joseph alpho...@yahoo.com wrote: [Attachment(s)https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#12ac88fa3577c8d8_TopTextfrom Alphons Joseph included below] Mp3 version attached.. ALPHONS JOSEPH MUSIC DIRECTOR 3E, INFRA HILLOCK Phase III Changampuzha Nagar South Kalamassery Cochin-33 -- Warm regards, Pramod.
Re: [arr] Jai Ho pulse missing from Rahman's Games Hey-O
I feel there is a reason behind use of minimal instruments. It's going to performed in a stadium, he might have thought anybody shd be able bring the sound with minimal instruments they have. I'm completely satisfied with the instrumentation and it's a great idea for this kind of song. All you need here is to have the crowd sing along, I'm sure that's going to happen. On Aug 30, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Arr Fan arr...@rocketmail.com wrote: Ramesh - good one. I second that ARR missed an golden opportunity to utilize a large orchestral work - it is indeed sad when people question if swagatham composed by our ARR worth $1million price tag? the magic in swagatham works for me now... but ARR could have gone for large orchestra and made it really very grand. I guess, I will wait for that day... From: Ramesh R triscod...@yahoo.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, August 30, 2010 12:37:44 PM Subject: Re: [arr] Jai Ho pulse missing from Rahman's Games Hey-O Apparently none of the people complaining about the CWG song even bothered to check the theme song for 2006 Commonwealth Games. Here's Delta Goodrem singing Together We Are One Each host nation has a different interpretation of what they want in the theme song for CWG. They all don't have to be fast-paced and anthem-like. It depends on what the GoI or IOC wanted ARR to showcase in the song. Judge it based on the context. I had hoped to see a larger contribution from ARR towards the music of the CWG. It really was an opportunity to do a large orchestral work were he to score the Opening Ceremony. Score fans should seek out the cd to the 2006 CWG Opening Ceremony. It contains music by Australian composer Christopher Gordon and is nothing short of fantastic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_Games:_Melbourne_2006_Opening_Ceremony And if you want more Gordon goodness- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF7SD-JbXwU From: Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, August 29, 2010 7:07:31 PM Subject: [arr] Jai Ho pulse missing from Rahman's Games Hey-O http://epaper.mailtoday.in/3082010/epaperimages/3082010/3082010-md-hr-19/124848578.jpg
[arr]: yeh Delhi hein mere yaar for CWG
Hi Rahmaniacs, Was just wondering if CWG committee can try to use Delhi-6 title track (yeh delhi hein mere yaar) at the promotions, hotels, stadiums, etc alongwith the CWG anthem. Although it already sounds international, they can ask ARR to provide a english only version or something similar. Sure that it would sound catchy enough for visiting foreigners and is quite relevant for the locals as well. Regards, Kiran I K
[arr] Re: ARR T Shirts - New Print
Hello Vithur Can you provide me yor mob, am in chennai , will come n collect srinivas b --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur vith...@... wrote: A.R.R. T Shirts available with me for sale. Proceeds go for a noble cause. At present , for people within India. Those interested, pls mail me ur details. People from Chennai can collect it in person from me. People from other parts of India, can mail me ur details. -- regards, Vithur
Re: [arr] Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ???
This is about India and for Indians primarily, for info. Jai Ho is not English!!! On 31 August 2010 09:21, ::: rahmanian ::: krrajkuma...@yahoo.comwrote: Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ?? Commonwealth of Nations includes Big members like.. Australia, Bangladesh, Canada, Ghana, Nigeria, South Africa, United Kingdom etc.. Since 2010 CWG event to be held in INDIA, the song was in our National Language.. But even the song should be in English version too.. so that it ll reach all over the world.. i know Music has No Boundary.. but Language has.. So it's better to release in English too.. otherwise there is no meaning of comparing it with 'waka waka'. 00 91 99941 88566 rahmanian rajkumar http://www.youtube.com/bobyi -- Regards, Uday Kiran
Re: [arr] CWG song waka waka
And also since Waka Waka was based on a football worldcup in Africa, it had a lot of african beats in it. How could he compose a song like waka waka for a games going to be held in India ! On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com wrote: A very sensible argument. I do not see ARR has lost it anywhere in this post. Critics, are you reading ? On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:32 AM, light4_u light...@yahoo.co.in wrote: I will try to be very honest in my views. As been one of the biggest fans of ARR since years I m extremly disappointed with the song. Its not bad but its not even close to the capability of ARR n his name in the music world, he should, he could, he would have done much much better than this. The things went wrong in cwg song according to me r, 1. When some media guy asked him is it like waka waka ? ARR responded to that we tried to go beyond than waka waka or some thing like that he replied. With this reply of ARR people started to expect the song better than chaiyyan chiyaan or maa tujhe salaam, he shouldn't have said that but insted he should have said no its not like waka waka its different from that. He also said that i m working on it since 6 months. When he can deliver the whole sound track like slumdog millionaire within 21 days its but natural that people will expect him to give 100 times better a single song than the songs of sdm. 2. I loved waka waka song. Waka waka's tune was simple but melodious. Song was catchy, peppy, groovy easy to sing, easy to tap one's feet on it, superb video n shakira's charm. 3. ARR's music n compositions r difficult to understand for many people, it takes time to grow, though many people cant understand his music even afer 100 times listen. 4. ARR's movies n private albums not ment for whole india but for arr's fans n those people who can understand music very wel. Cwg song is for whole india n every1 wants to be it like their taste. We (arr fans) care a damn when others dont like his music for movies or private album's, but this time the case is different because he was suppose to give a song which can easily sung by every indian n loved by every1 (he tried to do so) but he couldn't reach his goal. 5. This kind of phase which arr is going through is not first time it has happened before also when people tried to demoralise him n tried very hard to lower his popularity, but by the grace of Almighty he only climed higher n higher. This phase is worst. But whenever that happened when his work was critisized at the extreme level he came with a BANG and silented all his critics. First, at the time of Daud n other movies of his at that time, he came with Taal etc., second time at the time of Bose-the forgetton hero n movies of his at that time, he came with RDB. ARR n Sachin Tendulkar r alike, whenever people say sachin is finish now, he hits a century, whenever people stared saying arr is gonna be a history now he came with the best music anyone can give in the world. This is the same kind of phase from which arr is going through right now, but i m very much sure that sooner or later he will make every1 silent once again inshaAllah taala. with best regards, Shehzad. -- www.gomzyphotography.com -- Farzad Khaleel www.rahmaniac.com
Re: [arr] CWG song waka waka
On 8/31/2010 10:32 AM India Time, _light4_u_ wrote: I will try to be very honest in my views. As been one of the biggest fans of ARR since years I m extremly disappointed with the song. Its not bad but its not even close to the capability of ARR n his name in the music world, he should, he could, he would have done much much better than this. The things went wrong in cwg song according to me r, 1. When some media guy asked him is it like waka waka ? ARR responded to that we tried to go beyond than waka waka or some thing like that he replied. With this reply of ARR people started to expect the song better than chaiyyan chiyaan or maa tujhe salaam, he shouldn't have said that but insted he should have said no its not like waka waka its different from that. He also said that i m working on it since 6 months. When he can deliver the whole sound track like slumdog millionaire within 21 days its but natural that people will expect him to give 100 times better a single song than the songs of sdm. Yaar, the above doesn't at all relate to why you like or dislike this song. I concede that I find it so uncharacterstic of ARR to compare his own work with waka waka even if by negation, may be media caught him unprepared and he uttered something he didn't meant to. Still, whatever he said that raised the expectations, even without him having said anything, expectation with an ARR song are always high, so nothing became worse or bad by him uttering so. 2. I loved waka waka song. Waka waka's tune was simple but melodious. Song was catchy, peppy, groovy easy to sing, easy to tap one's feet on it, superb video n shakira's charm. Frankly, I haven't heard waka till now fully though it reaches ears now and then, but agains dear, you seem to be comparing ARR song with waka. 3. ARR's music n compositions r difficult to understand for many people, it takes time to grow, though many people cant understand his music even afer 100 times listen. Thinking about it, I think he should give such growing songs for his fans. He should not give growing song that he knows world will listen who don't know about this growing effect and might not bother to give it time to grow. 4. ARR's movies n private albums not ment for whole india but for arr's fans n those people who can understand music very wel. Cwg song is for whole india n every1 wants to be it like their taste. We (arr fans) care a damn when others dont like his music for movies or private album's, but this time the case is different because he was suppose to give a song which can easily sung by every indian n loved by every1 (he tried to do so) but he couldn't reach his goal. 5. This kind of phase which arr is going through is not first time it has happened before also when people tried to demoralise him n tried very hard to lower his popularity, but by the grace of Almighty he only climed higher n higher. This phase is worst. But whenever that happened when his work was critisized at the extreme level he came with a BANG and silented all his critics. First, at the time of Daud n other movies of his at that time, he came with Taal etc., second time at the time of Bose-the forgetton hero n movies of his at that time, he came with RDB. ARR n Sachin Tendulkar r alike, whenever people say sachin is finish now, he hits a century, whenever people stared saying arr is gonna be a history now he came with the best music anyone can give in the world. This is the same kind of phase from which arr is going through right now, but i m very much sure that sooner or later he will make every1 silent once again inshaAllah taala. with best regards, Shehzad. Shahzad, having read this insightful mail, I still haven't got a clue what exactly you don't like in this song. You seem to be regular ARR fan hence used to analyze music, still you are just giving the judgment not even close to the capability of ARR, that's all. Would it be possible for you to give some elements that you didn't like in it, or could you compare it to ARR's other song highlighting some effects that ARR could use to bring such elements that were required in this song please? Asking you to undergo this drill only because you seem analytical so you can do it. I am not dictating anything. Just think that not even close to the capability of ARR wouldn't be any useful to ARR as a feedback. Some concrete element of deeds or lack of them would be useful to him to understand what people wanted in this song. -- Rawat
Re: [arr] Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ???
On 8/31/2010 10:51 AM India Time, _::: rahmanian :::_ wrote: Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ?? Because India's national language is Hindi. Commonwealth of Nations includes Big members like.. Australia, Bangladesh, Canada, Ghana, Nigeria, South Africa, United Kingdom etc.. Since 2010 CWG event to be held in INDIA, the song was in our National Language.. But even the song should be in English version too.. so that it ll reach all over the world.. i know Music has No Boundary.. but Language has.. So it's better to release in English too.. otherwise there is no meaning of comparing it with 'waka waka'. I am not aware, could anyone tell me whether waka was released in other languages, or whether other theme songs in India, like Ath Swagatam shubh swagatam of asiad 84 was released in any other language? -- Rawat
Re: [arr] Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ???
Hindi is not India's national language.. It is one of the official languages along with English but Hindi being the primary and the latter the secondary.. Below is one of the many sources.. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Theres-no-national-language-in-India-Gujarat-High-Court/articleshow/5496231.cms --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote: On 8/31/2010 10:51 AM India Time, _::: rahmanian :::_ wrote: Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ?? Because India's national language is Hindi. Commonwealth of Nations includes Big members like.. Australia, Bangladesh, Canada, Ghana, Nigeria, South Africa, United Kingdom etc.. Since 2010 CWG event to be held in INDIA, the song was in our National Language.. But even the song should be in English version too.. so that it ll reach all over the world.. i know Music has No Boundary.. but Language has.. So it's better to release in English too.. otherwise there is no meaning of comparing it with 'waka waka'. I am not aware, could anyone tell me whether waka was released in other languages, or whether other theme songs in India, like Ath Swagatam shubh swagatam of asiad 84 was released in any other language? -- Rawat